Fantasy Football Today - Live Mock Draft! (08/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Box Draft Friday. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the show. We do have a mailbag coming up a little bit later. Jamie and Heath. Jamie has the second pick in the draft, Heath the 12th, and Dave and I are in the middle. Dave is fifth, I think, and I'm ninth, and we'll tell you about our teams. But also we have seven listeners, seven viewers or listeners joining in this draft as well. So if you're getting ready for a draft, this should be a pretty helpful episode. And here we go. I'm not even going to introduce the guys.

Let's just get started here. It's three receivers. It's full PPR. There is a flex. We have six bench spots, so it's a 14-round league. And as of now, we have a minute on the clock in between picks. Might have to shorten that at some point. But the first pick is Justin Jefferson.

And, Jamie, you're on the clock. I think I'll just go with the easy choice here of Jamar Chase. Okay. Jamar Chase is the pick. Dave, you have the fifth pick. I do. Give me your top three right now. You got three players in your queue.

You know you're going to get one of them. Who are they going to be? Well, I've got three players in my queue. It's McCaffrey. It's Eckler. It's Bijan Robinson. But I'm making it a point to draft players that I don't have many shares of.

Fortunately, there is a player who I just named that I don't have a lot of shares of, and so if he makes it to me at five, I'm going to take him, and that's the rookie. Okay, McCaffrey was the third pick, and Tyreek Hill the fourth pick, so now you have to decide between Eckler and Bijan. So this is where I'm using this as a testing ground, and it's not exactly what I want to do. I would take Eckler and Bichon. And then, so this is where I'm using this as a testing ground,

and it's not exactly what I want to do. I would take Eckler here, but I'm going to take Bichon instead, because I want to see what it's like. All right. You know what? It's going to look like the same damn thing. You know who I'm taking? I'm taking Travis Kelsey. I haven't taken him. There you go.

That's what I was going to say. Like, if you're going to switch things up, and I love the idea of switching and trying new things, like taking a young running back instead of an old running back, I'm not sure accomplished. Right. Taking the tight end at five. It's like, it's almost like you gave ESP and I caught it in my brain. I was like, Oh yeah, this is exactly what I should do. Went with Kelsey. Let's see how this turns out. Yeah. The only thing maybe that I'd say about that is I did have a league where I took Eckler fourth,

I think, and then I took Devontae Adams and I felt like, oh man, I brought this up on the show the other day, I think. It's a little too old for me. I don't love having two players who are typically past the age where a player at that position is good as my first two picks.

So at least you won't have that problem with Bijan in the first round. Kelsey is the pick at five. We're waiting for Doug to make the pick at six. Come on, Doug. Don't auto, yeah. Come on, what are you doing? You're with Patty Mayonnaise right now?

Make this pick. All right, I gave him another minute. Let's see if he's in the chat. I think we should just let him auto-pick. That's going to happen in some people's drafts. They need to be prepared for what happens if somebody goes on auto-pick and starts taking the top projected player every round.

I think I'm going to do top player in the rankings of the analysts that just drafted, most recently drafted, if there's an auto-pick. So Dave just drafted. So if Doug does not make the pick, I will give him Dave's best player, most recently drafted, if there's an auto pick. So Dave just drafted. So if Doug does not make the pick, I will give him Dave's best player, highest rated player, which would be Austin Eckler. Quick, I got to change my rankings. Let me promote a few things while we're here.

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But it's just a way to play more fantasy football, either best ball or a 12-team managed league. Please go to our Facebook page. Just search for Fantasy Football Today on Facebook. I think I promoted enough things there. The last three picks after Dave took Kelsey were Eckler, Kup, and Bijan. So we've had eight picks. It's basically the same eight in every draft, right?

It's Jefferson, Chase, McCaffrey, Hill, Kelsey, Eckler, Kup, and Bijan. That was the order here. Hill going a little earlier than I expected. So that brings me to my pick here, and it's PPR, and it's three receivers. It's an easy Stefan Diggs for me. And you know, it's, it's PPR and it's three receivers. It's an easy Stefan digs for me. The only thing that doesn't make it so easy is I think the wide receivers in the second round might be better than the running backs. Um, I don't think Barkley or Pollard will make it to me, but I could easily go with two, two,

uh, wide receivers start. So let me take Stefan digs,s uh as the ninth overall pick and we shall see if uh if pollard makes it back to me heath you've got uh barkley is the 10th pick you're on deck heath who are the two players in your queue right now well i've got three because i get to make two picks in a row but uh it was among raw saint brown cd lamb and tony pollard so it looks like i am going to be drafting the Cowboys. Now, I'm just really going to struggle here for a moment with, do I want to take a running back in round one, or do I want to start with a wide receiver?

But regardless, it's going to be the same two guys. My number 10 player, my number 11 player, Tony Pollard, CeeDee Lamb. Okay. And, all right, that brings us to austin who took amandra saint brown just before he was going to take him um and with the best players available are derrick henry and aj brown we have nick chubb davante adams just went so i am on deck and i am i know people in this draft are probably watching the stream but i am hoping for Nick Chubb here. If it's not Nick Chubb, I'll probably take a wide receiver.

And Derrick Henry went. So I will take Nick Chubb and go Diggs and Chubb with my first two picks. That means that the team picking 10th started with Barkley and Derrick Henry. Jamie, what do you think about that? Not taking a wide receiver in the first round, starting with Barkley at 10, and then Derrick Henry in the second round. Perfectly fine with Barkley in the first round.

Hate the Derrick Henry pick in the second round. I would have definitely taken either A.J. Brown or Garrett Wilson, who was on the board. Brown would have been my preference. But yeah, I don't like that running back duo. I don't think Derrick Henry should go in that spot ahead of those wide receivers. Adam, I had a question for you about the Nick Chubb pick, because I've been thinking about this.

I know from a running efficiency basis why this is the case, but from an actual fantasy football scoring basis and PPR, what do you think is the reason for the big gap between Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon? Mixon's a year younger. They both saw their number two running back disappear last year. They're both... Mixon's been slightly better in full PPR, I think, but they've kind of gone back and forth in where they finish. Chubb's a borderline round one pick, and Mixon goes in round three. Yeah, it's a great question. I don't think we'll see that gap continue but i i do

think that chubb has a higher ceiling i mean look if mixon if i felt like mixon was going to make it back to me in round three i wouldn't have taken chubb there i think there's no chance mixon will but it's a great question i i think mixon might just stink and they could get away from him? He had another auto pick, by the way. Oh, who was it? Mahomes? All right, that's a fine time for Mahomes. We'll keep that. Yeah, what's your take on that, Heath? Well, I've got them, I think, back-to-back

at the 2-3 turn, so that's kind of why I was asking. I don't have an answer for why Chubb's going so much higher. I think it's because there's a lot of people who believe that Kareem Hunt's departure will lead to Nick Chubb just getting every touch. And he's already been one of the best running backs in the NFL. If I asked you to name who are the top five running backs, forget about fantasy, you know Chubb's going to be on your list. And I think that's the point of contention that I have. It does seem like Chubb's going around earlier

because we just view him as a better player. But it's been five years now that these guys have both been in the NFL. That difference has not really shown up the last three, at least, in terms of fantasy production. And I think in a non-PPR league, it's a really easy thing.

But in PPR, Mixon might catch 40 more passes than Nick Chubb this year. It's a good point. I think I'm hoping for a more expanded role in the passing game, maybe something like 30 catches for Nick Chubb. As I said, in the eight games in 2019, before Kareem Hunt arrived, he was on pace for 53 catches. And then as soon as Kareem Hunt arrived, he lost that role.

I'm hoping for the best offense that he's ever played on. And that's actually something we saw from Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon had his best season when the Bengals offense got better. So I'm hoping for that. Of course, we should probably

talk about that report, the scathing report about how bad the passing game has looked, the athletic. Jamie, you just took Josh Jacobs. I think we should talk about that. Maybe we'll do that when Amari Cooper gets drafted or something, but let's catch up on round two here. After I took Nick Chubb, Garrett Wilson, Jalen Waddell, Patrick Mahomes, which was an auto

pick, but 19th overall. I don't even know if he'll make it that far in most drafts. A.J. Brown, Devante Smith. So after Nick Chubb went, oh, Calvin Ridley, wow, went in round two. It's six wide receivers and Mahomes, or is it five wide receivers and Mahomes? Wilson, Waddle, Mahomes, Dave took A.J. Brown, then Devontae Smith, then Calvin Ridley. And then Jamie, you went with Josh Jacobs. You still had Jonathan Taylor on the board. Joe Mixon went right after you took Jacobs. Why did you take Jacobs there? I feel more comfortable with Jacobs at this point than I do with Taylor. And I didn't want to go back-to-back bangles there.

Just, you know, I don't want to do what Heath's doing. So taking Jamar Chase in round one, I would not have taken Mixon at that point. So Jacobs was my highest-rated player, and I had no problem taking him to that spot. He could end up being a steal if he's there for week one and doing what Josh Jacobs is capable of doing. Right, so then Giggity, who has

the first pick overall, took Justin Jefferson. At the 2-3 turn, Giggity went Joe Mixon, Jonathan Taylor. And it is just crazy right now to be drafting when Taylor and Jacobs are available close to the 2-3 turn. It's exciting. It's also a little

risky. But, all right, Jamie, I suspended the draft because I want you to talk out your pick for everybody. You have Jamar Chase and Josh Jacobs. You've got Josh Allen. You have Jalen Hurts on the board. You also have Chris Olave and Tee Higgins. I doubt you're taking Higgins with Chase. You have Mark Andrews on the board.

What are you going to do here and why? I'm going to skip quarterback because I don't really love taking quarterbacks early. So I'm going to go with Chris Olave because I also don't want to take Mark Andrews. So I've not gone this route yet in any of our drafts. And so I'm going to take Olave here with the second pick

of the third round. Dave, you're three spots away from drafting. Now here's a scenario for you. In the first round you took Kelsey. Kelsey. Then A.J. Brown. Let's say Josh Allen is off the board,

but Jalen Hurts is on the board. Would you consider a stack there of Brown and Hurts? I would, but there's one receiver left that I would take if he makes it to me at 29th overall. Wow. Deebo Samuel just went. So Calvin Ridley went. I need another pick like that.

Calvin Ridley went 22nd and Debo Samuel went 27th. It happened. I got there. All right. But now, okay, Jalen Hurts goes. So now Dave's on the clock. Are you going to take Higgins or are you going to take Josh Allen? Those are the only two names in my queue.

So good on you for recognizing that. I know that Josh Allen's amazing. It's a pretty good value, but this is a three-receiver league, and I'm trying to do something different, and I don't want to take a quarterback and a tight end with two of my first three picks, not when I've got to start three wide receivers.

I'm going to take T. Higgins. All right, let's say this had been a two-running-back, two-receiver flex league. Might have taken Josh Allen. Maybe. Okay. Oh, the person who took Mahomes, auto-picked Mahomes, should we just give him Josh Allen?

I guess I'm making picks for him. What do you think? Give him Isaiah Pacheco. Why don't we give this team Mark Andrews and see how that works out with no wide receivers in the first three rounds. So that would be Eckler, Mahomes, Mark Andrews

picking six, that of the sixth spot. Jamie, Ridley in round two, Debo early round three. Your thoughts? I don't like it. I think it's just too soon. Certainly for Debo, but I think in terms just too soon, certainly for Debo.

But I think in terms of Ridley, you probably could have gotten him in round three. So I don't love those two picks based on where you're drafting them. I think it feels a little bit just like a reach. Obviously, if they hit, they're going to be fantastic. But you're asking Ridley to be completely the same guy that he was after missing a year and a half. And you're asking Debo to recreate one season that he's had comparatively to the three others and i just don't think that's realistic for both of them all right i've got two players in my queue i'm up next and my two favorite players here are josh allen and travis etn uh i will take one of them which is interesting i don't love not having two wide receivers at this point but i will almost certainly take a

wide receiver in the fourth round unless there's incredible... Oh, Amari Cooper. Wow. Oh, now, God darn it. Oh, boy. I was hoping he was going to take one of Allen or Etienne. I have to take Josh Allen. I have to take Josh Allen here.

That's an awesome value. This is the old... This is like last year, maybe two years ago, fantasy quarterback advice, which is you can't believe the value at the quarterback. It's just sitting there. You have to do it. And this is an example of that.

This is rare to see, though. Usually you'll see Josh Allen go a lot sooner. He almost went four picks ago to me. So I love that you got him there. And this is just, if you're in your draft and a quarterback is just sitting there and you can't believe he's there, don't think twice. Just take the quarterback. All right. So Amari Cooper gets one spot ahead of Josh Allen. We like him in the fourth round anyway. This is the middle of the third round. Here's DK Metcalf. So I know there are a lot of picks that we think are a little too early calvin ridley debo samuel amari cooper and

dk metcalf now this is happening in your league it's a wide receiver heavy league all right travis etn is falling jameer gibbs remandre stevenson they're also on the board aaron jones heath you're on deck um jameer gibbs is the pick all right heath you've got pollard and lamb so let's see dak is it too early for dak prescott for you? It's a little too early for Dak Prescott. I, I, man, I just cannot. And I'm generally the guy that really struggles to answer when people say, what is your favorite draft position this year? Um, I cannot say enough how much I hate drafting at the end of the draft this year. And I especially hate the three, four turn when you're drafting at the end of the draft this year, it's the 3-4 turn when you're drafting at the end of the

draft this year. It's just absolutely awful. I'm going to take Christian Watson here just because I think at this point you might as well just shoot for whatever you think upside is at this turn because you're not really going to get good value. And then I'm sticking with Miles Sanders in round four. It's funny because the draft we did yesterday, I picked 12th and I absolutely loved it. Yeah, I don't have a problem with it either. But there must be guys here that you like at the 3-4 turn. So for me yesterday, it was half PPR versus PPR.

So I don't know how much that would have changed things. But I started four wide receivers in a row, which were Diggs, A.J. Brown, Jerry Judy, Christian Watson. So that was my first four picks. And then came back with four running backs of Alvin Kamara, David Montgomery, Khalil Herbert, and Isaiah Pacheco. And I was thrilled to death with that start. Well, hopefully not to death. I can't believe that Travis Etienne

is still available as we're at pick 39. I have the 40th pick. Another value pick. I'm going for it. Right. In a league where you have to start three receivers, even if you just have two receivers and a flex and it's PPR,

I really want two receivers in the first four rounds. I'm not going to have a good receiving core. And I just have to be OK with that because Josh Allen to me was great value. And Travis Etienne to me is like an early third round pick. Maybe I'm too high on him, but he's certainly worth the 40th overall pick to me. So it was either him or Hopkins. And I just I mean, like now I have Josh Allen, Nick

Chubb, Travis ETN and Stefan Diggs. But we, we, we did this Tuesday night though, with the same thing. It was very receiver heavy. If you recall in that draft that we did on our live stream. And again, our, our ADP on CBS is combining all the drafts. So non PPR super flex, all those things. So take that into account based Based on average draft position in the first four rounds, there are 17 receivers being drafted. In the draft we did Tuesday night, there were 25. And so that shows you, I think, in a three-receiver PPR league, there are going to be a lot of wide receivers getting pushed up,

probably in some spots that we don't particularly love, as we're seeing here. So I think the thing that you're doing is, how do you separate yourself from that scenario where everybody's going to probably have a decent receiving core and you might not. You take two running backs you consider to be top 12, top 10. I don't know where you have Chubb and Etienne ranked. But a top two quarterback and top five wide receiver,

that's a pretty good place to be. I think Etienne would be 12th for me with Mixon being 11th, unless they're 10 and 11. But I think Mixon, 11, Etienne, 12, something like that. think etn would be 12th for me with a lick with mixin being 11th unless they're 10 and 11 but i think mixin 11 etn 12 uh something like that so to me i have two top 12 running top 12 running backs a top five wide receiver and a top two quarterback dave you're you're up uh you're on deck after i took etn well we'll take a look at the fourth round actually you know what i'm just i'm sorry i'm gonna pause the draft and recap for everybody at home.

The third round was Jonathan Taylor, Chris Olave, Debo Samuel, Jalen Hurts, T. Higgins, Mark Andrews, Keenan Allen in full PPR, to Casey Simons, who is running the FFT championship, by the way, the one I told you about earlier, who started his team with Kup, Waddle, and Keenan Allen in PPR. That's scary. And ended up with Ramondre Stevenson in the middle of round four. Amari Cooper, we felt, was too early in round three. Right? I'm not speaking out of turn there. Right?

Too early for Cooper. Yep. Josh Allen, fourth to last pick of round three. DK Metcalf, we like him better in maybe late round four or five. Jameer Gibbs, right spot for him. And then Heath took Christian Watson. And then at the first pick of round four, he took Miles Sanders. And then Jerry Judy.

At this point, three quarterbacks are off the board. This is a six-point-per-passing touchdown league. Maybe this was a surprise, fellas. Justin Herbert went with the third pick of round three. Four. Four, sorry. So he was the fourth quarterback off the board. I know that's not how you guys rank it,

but is it okay with you in a six-point-per-passing touchdown league? Yes. Okay. I've got a pretty big gap between Jacksonson and fields but ahead of him yeah and then i took etn and then lamar jackson went as qb5 and then there's remandre stevenson even the people who were down on stevenson after the zeke acquisition does do we think this is a good spot middle of round four for stevenson yep absolutely late yeah especially in full ppr this this is value.

That's good value. I'm going to resume the draft here with Doug on the clock, but Doug is basically us. I will give him Heath's highest ranked player, which is Christian Kirk. No, that's his highest ranked wide receiver. Let's get his highest ranked overall player. Aaron Jones.

Doug has Eckler, Mahomes, Mark Andrews. Alright, here's my question though. He doesn't have a wide receiver. So do we have to give him your highest ranked wide receiver? Give him Aaron Jones. He's going zero receiver? Two top 15 running backs and

QB1 and Titan 2? He's got Aaron Jones. I'm going to take a quick break here. We'll come back with Dave Richards' pick after this. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic. A quick locate request can save you from unexpected downtime, financial penalties, and keep you safe.

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Dave is on the clock. Dave has Kelsey, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, and what are you going to do here, Dave? You made it very easy for me by not giving DJ Moore to Doug. That's what I think you should have done. I have DJ Moore ranked out of Christian Kirk in full PPR, and he's good enough as a number one wide receiver when you've gone in a different direction in the first three rounds.

So if you're going kind of a zero wide receiver build, and DJ Moore's there in round four, you should have taken them. And that would have put me in a tough spot. I might have reached for DeAndre Hopkins if you had done that, but you didn't. And so DJ Moore is coming aboard. And now I've gone full zero RB, Kelsey, AJ Brown, T Higgins, DJ Moore. I, uh, is it weird that I like this, Adam? No, you got two more rounds ago. Brown, T. Higgins, D.J. Moore. Is it weird that I like this, Adam? You got two more rounds to go, ZRB, though.

At least one more. Yeah, you at least got to take your quarterback or another wide receiver. I can't guarantee I'm going one more round. I don't know if I have it in me. We'll see. Don't do it just to be a goofball. Take the best player. If I'm being a goofball, I would have taken a quarterback already and a kicker.

Doug's team is the goofball team, sort of. I think Doug's team looks... I think it's a really good team. It's not bad. It's Eckler, Aaron Jones, Patrick Mahomes, and Mark Andrews. Who's his number one receiver going to be? Probably like Drake London?

He's going to get Christian Kirk. Yeah, he's going to get Christian Kirk. It'll be Dave's number one wide receiver. If that's the case, then it'll be DeAndre Hopkins if I don't take DeAndre Hopkins, except Nate just took DeAndre Hopkins. Najee Harris fell

to the 45th overall pick after Dave took DJ Moore. DeAndre Hopkins comes off the board. Jamie's on the clock. Jamie, you have Chase, Jacobs, and Olave. Yeah, this worked out really well because I have the opportunity to take my favorite running back in this range, which is J.K. Dobbins, which is what I'm going to do.

And then I still have the opportunity to take another player at that position as well, coming back, along with the potential of a quarterback as well. So I'm very thrilled with how this worked out. Yeah. Well, that would give you three running backs and two receivers in your first five picks

if you went with a running back in the next round. Is that something you're comfortable with? Absolutely. At this point, knowing that I have Chase and Olave, for sure. Was there any thought to looking at the guy who's picking one and started with two running backs and a wide receiver? No, because I'm a Dobbins

guy, so if I want to make sure I get him, I'm going to draft him. Great. And you're going to be able to get the other guy coming back anyway, because he's got two running backs. You can say the guy's name. I think it's more important in a mock draft to just say the guy's name for our listeners and viewers. Madison? Yeah, no, it's Damian Pierce, if he's there.

Oh, okay. Heath, what do you think of this horrible report about the Browns passing game from the Athletic? It's concerning. We've got to take out everything with a grain of salt when it comes to just things that are reported, but the last time we saw Deshaun Watson playing football, he was not good at playing quarterback and passing.

We were hoping that that was just rust and it was all going to disappear and he was going to be fine this year. And so I talked about it, I think on Tuesday night on the breakout show or Wednesday night or whenever that was that I was ranking him 12 because I wasn't sure if he was going to be a top five quarterback or if he was going to be on the waiver wire. And I think that like that risk still exists. If we were going through camp and everything was just glowing about Watson and we were hearing, he looks like the guy he was in Houston. And maybe even if we saw him play in the preseason and he threw the ball and completed a pass more than three yards downfield, then I would have reason to get encouraged about Watson being himself again. But I have none of those reasons right now.

The uncertainty remains. I think he's very much like Anthony Richardson in that he could be a league winner and you could need a second quarterback. He also has not had Amari Cooper and Elijah Moore's been in and out. So hopefully things get better. But that was, I mean, I think we've said negative reports from beat writers

mean more than positive reports because this is a time of optimism. And what was written about the Browns passing game was concerning. All right, so there were a couple of picks after Jamie took Dobbins. At the 4-5 turn, Michael took Jefferson, Mixon, Taylor with his first three picks. And then at the 4-5 turn, he took Deontay Johnson and Drake London. By the way, Mark Cabali, who covers the Steelers for The Athletic, wrote a lot of really nice things about Kenny Pickett and George Pickens and Calvin, sorry, Austin Ridley.

So in the passing game. No, Austin, what am I saying? Calvin Austin. Calvin in the passing game. No, Austin. What am I saying? Calvin Austin. Calvin Austin. Calvin Austin. Calvin Austin Ridley. Steve Austin.

Okay, my bad. In the passing game. So, okay, Jamie, my question for you was going to be, if London or Johnson had been available to you, would you have taken either of them ahead of Damian Pierce, who you ended up taking as your... No, no, I'm very happy with this build. You know, I think the thing that,

for me, that I'm comfortable with is if I have at least two wide receivers, and these are two of basically my top 12 guys. I think Olave's 13 for me. So, you know, very comfortable with how this start goes. And then now I have the opportunity to take two

running backs and then one who could be a flex. I don't know which of the three that I will end up playing. I obviously have to make a little bit of an insurance plan in case Josh Jacobs does have a holdout, but I'm thrilled with the opportunity to play all three of these guys. And I love taking shots starting as early as round eight on some of those wide receivers that are going after pick 100. So I'll draft them earlier. And so then I know I have the opportunity to kind of cycle through that number three wide receiver spot. So I don't necessarily need to prioritize running back anymore. I'm not going to stop drafting them, but I don't need to prioritize the position. And now I can just sort of stockpile more wide receivers that can be either my number three and

my flex, or, you know, maybe just one of those positions. All right. We got a running back run here in round five, Drake London, the first pick, and then four running backs in a row. Damian Pierce to Jamie. Nate takes Brees Hall. Adam, not me, takes Alexander Madison. And Dave takes James Connor. And that's a really nice run there of, you know, maybe you don't like all of them,

but there are definitely going to be some running backs there that you like. So Pierce, Hall, Madison, and Connor. We gave Doug, the guy who doesn't have a wide receiver, we gave him Terry McLaurin. And then Casey makes an interesting pick. Casey takes his fourth wide receiver with Chris Godwin, Cup, Waddle, Keenan Allen, Ramondre Stevenson, and Chris Godwin. And just to set the board for you a little bit here, quarterback, we still have Justin Fields, right? Burrow and Fields. Burrow and Fields. And Trevor Lawrence.

Oh, am I on the clock? Okay, we had Mike Williams come off the board. Mike Williams going 56th overall. Was that too early, guys? A little bit. Just a little. Again, though, you've got to put it in context. All these receivers are getting pushed up. So if you feel like this is a guy that you

want to take, he's probably not going to get to you in round six. Do you like him better than Christian Kirk? I know Heath's answer. Well, can I answer that? Because I'm on the clock, and I have to take a receiver. So you're probably going to take Christian Kirk. He's the highest rank for all three of you. I am definitely going to take Christian Kirk, and I would have taken Kirk over

Williams. Right. Yeah, same. But still, we're probably talking a couple picks that Williams maybe went too soon. Right. Like maybe you try to get him back on the turn on the way back in round six, but he might not have made it. But I would have taken Kirk.

Yeah. Ooh, Ken Walker. Maybe I should have taken Ken Walker. See, I'm surprised you should. I thought you would have done that. I, damn it. I really, honestly, I really struggle to pay attention when I'm hosting and drafting, and I am sorry.

Would you have taken that? I mean, you're very dead set on, I need a receiver, I need a receiver. Right. Would you have gone Walker and then just say, okay, screw it, I'm going to see what receiver comes back to me in round six? Here's the complication.

Yes, I would have. The complication is I'm looking at Waller and Pitts potentially being available to me in the next round, and I really want one of them. So then I have to ask this question. All right, if I take Walker here and then a tight end, holy cow, am I going to have a week-wide receiving core? But so what?

Right, you know what? So what? Get your favorite players. We have a waiver wire for a reason. You can be strong at flex. Be strong at tight end. That's the thing. Yes, you have to start, obviously, three receivers or three receivers. You have to start flex.

You have to start a second running back. If you're getting great players at those positions, why would you overlook it? He already had the second running back. In fact, Adams loaded at running back. He needed, Adams loaded at running back. And he needed two more spots to fill at receiver. But he has a conviction that Ken Walker is going to have a huge season. And that's his flex.

And that's still just as good as a borderline top 30 wide receiver at this point to be his second wide receiver. Yeah, but is Kirk a borderline top 30? Adam, you have Ken Walker. I think he's a little better than that. You have Ken Walker as what? A top 20 wide running back at this point? Top 15? How high do you have him in your make-believe rankings?

Probably around 20th, but I would say I'd take him as early as the 4-5 turn. But yeah, you know what? That's the thing. Comparing him to Christian Kirk, Kirk is still risky. You're up again, by the way. Yeah, it's not like I was going to take Ken Walker or DeAndre Hopkins or something. I think I should have taken Walker there, and I am going to take Kyle Pitts here.

Let's recap some picks, though, because Heath had a really nice turn with Hawkinson and Dotson. After I took Kirk, Ken Walker went, Justin Fields, TJ Hawkinson. So it was time for the tight ends to come off the board. We had Kelsey in round one. We had Andrews in round three. And we had nobody until the last pick of round five.

So, Heath, you get Hawkinson and Dotson. We'll talk about your team in a second. Then Darren Waller, Brandon Ayuk, and Kyle Pitts came off the board. All right, Heath, picking 12th. You said you didn't love it, but you've got Pollard and Miles Sanders. You've got Lamb and Christian Watson, and now Jahan Dotson. but you've got Pollard and Miles Sanders. You've got Lamb and Christian Watson and now Jahan Dotson, and you've got TJ Hawkinson. How do you feel about that?

I was very thrilled that TJ Hawkins fell to the end of round five. I've never been a huge Hawkinson guy, and I don't like it when he goes in round four, but if I can get Hawkinson at pick 60, I absolutely love that. You know how much I like Jahan Dotson. So I've got CD Lama, number one, wide receiver. I've already got two of my second year wide receivers. Like whether you like my team is going to come down to obviously the, the miles Sanders debate. Cause that's, he's the polarizing player there, I think. But, uh, no, I love the receiving core. Happy with the tight end and I've got a plan for everything else.

Okay. After I took Kyle Pitts, that gave me Josh Allen, Nick Chubb, Travis Etienne, Stefan Diggs, Christian Kirk, and Kyle Pitts. Javante Williams was taken. Javante Williams went ahead of Rashad White, ahead of James Cook, David Montgomery, Alvin Kamara. Did Javante Williams go too early, guys? I think it's fine.

A little bit, but that's fine. Okay. George Kittle. So look at that. That's four tight ends in a span of seven picks, I think. Yep. James Cook. I gave Doug James Cook. So that gives him three wide receivers and only three running backs and only one wide receiver through six rounds.

Mahomes, Eckler, Aaron Jones, James Cook, Mark Andrews, and only Terry McLaurin at wide receiver. Dave, I know you were excited about the pick you just made. You had Kelsey, three receivers, A.J. Brown, T. Higgins, D.J. Moore. You had one running back in James Connor, and you took? Joe Burrow fell to me at pick number 68 overall, and I had to take him. I did a quick double check before I picked. I wanted to see if the four managers drafting after me in round six had quarterbacks or not. Three of them, including Jamie, did not have a quarterback. So I was under the impression that Joe Burrow had 0% of a chance of making it back to me. I don't know how he made it to me,

but I'm happy to put him on my team. I will struggle at running back with this team, but I'm loving what I've done. Dallas Goddard gets picked, so now we might have a little bit of a lull before we see more tight ends. All right, Jamie, you just took Trevor Lawrence. So Jamar Chase and Chris Olave for you,

Josh Jacobs, J.K. Dobbins, Damian Pierce, and Trevor Lawrence. So Jamar chase and Chris Olabe for you, Josh Jacobs, JK Dobbins, Damian Pierce and Trevor Lawrence. Um, yeah, I'm assuming you would have taken burrow there. Oh, absolutely. So then you take Lawrence.

All right, we'll see what happens here at the, at the six, seven turn with Michael on the clock with three receivers and two running backs. He has Mixon and Taylor at running back. He has Jefferson, Deontay Johnson and Drake London running back. He has Jefferson, Deontay Johnson, and Drake London at receiver.

All of the, there's a tier of tight end and a tier of quarterback that are gone. So that's interesting the way it played out for Michael. So we'll see what he does here. Like the best quarterback available would be maybe Tua or Watson or Richardson. And the best tight end would be like Friar Muther and Njoku, or Ingram,

and he took Marquise Brown. So yeah, what do you do? You just build your depth at running back and receiver here? You don't reach, obviously. I wouldn't, no. Yeah, I looked at it, and I was thinking I would take one running back and one wide receiver here.

100%. But it wasn't necessarily, it might not be the guys he would take, but that's the position I would take. Yeah, he took Marquise Brown. See the best running backs available. We got David Montgomery, Rashad White, Alvin Kamara, Cam Akers,

and he took David Montgomery. So that's a really good job. Marquise Brown and David Montgomery. He's got four wide receivers and three running backs, and he'll be in very nice position. I would say in 24 picks, I think there's a very good chance that Tua is there, but we know there's plenty of good quarterbacks left for Michael. All right, Jamie, walk us

through your thought process here with your team of Lawrence, Chase, Olave, Jacobs, Dobbins, Damian Pierce. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting running back options here, even though I already have three, but I still may take another one just because I like the opportunity of what could be a potential league winner at some point here. So even though I don't have my third wide receiver yet, I'm going to take Alvin Kamara, just with the

idea of if he hits, he could be obviously pretty special. So now I really am not going to worry about running back for the rest of the draft for a long, long time. And for the record, the best wide receivers available in Jamie's rankings were Jordan Addison, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Mike Evans, Gabe Davis, etc. I saw something not like a beat writer necessarily,

but one of those USA Today Vikings wires saying that KJ Osborne has had a great camp and he deserves to start. And Addison's at the concussion protocol for what it's worth. So is anybody getting cold feet there? I think it sounds like Osborne is a beat out BC Johnson. It definitely going to be that number two wide receiver for the entire season.

At the very least, maybe we should be at least mentioning Osborne as a late round pick. I mean, they throw the ball so much. He, he, he, he, he was, he wasn't bad as a third receiver last year, you know? So if there's any opportunity because they give Addison a little bit of a, you know, delayed start with the concussion and with learning the playbook in the

beginning part of the season, he can maybe give you a few good weeks in a deeper league. All right, George Pickens. So, he's the pick after Kamara, then Rashad White. Oh, did you take Pickens, Dave? I did not. He was on my list, but I didn't get him.

Is anybody starting to feel more optimistic about the Steelers' passing game? Yes. Why? Yeah. Well, if we're going to talk about beat reports from The Athletic, the one that said that Kenny Pickett had an amazing camp certainly sounds good. Pickens has had a lot of buzz. He was also mentioned in that same report about how his game has changed. He's changed his route running. He's been assigned different routes to run, and there's talk that he could be their best receiver. And we've had this debate on the show. And Deontay's going to get his too. You even saw it in the preseason game.

But if Kenny Pickett has both those guys and they've got other good options on top of that with Friar Muth at tight end, Jalen Warren out of the backfield, this team might throw a little bit more than we thought. And we've said that about a couple of other teams. And that'll go double if Najee isn't, if he doesn't live up to the expectation

that we had for him when he came out. So yeah, this is a passing offense I don't mind taking a chance on. All right, I want you guys to help me out with my pick here. And I want you to tell me what you think about the Eagles running back. So we did have a preseason game last night.

After Dave took Rashad White, it was Jordan Addison. Sorry, after Pickens, it was Gabe Davis, then Rashad White, Jordan Addison, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Khalil Herbert. I'm on the clock. I have Josh Allen, Nick Chubb, Travis Etienne, Stefan Diggs, Christian Kirk, and Kyle Pitts. Still don't have my third receiver.

Still don't have my flex. I like the running back so much more than the wide receivers here, so I'm probably going to just have my flex. I like the running back so much more than the wide receivers here. So I'm probably going to just take my flex. Best wide receivers are Mike Evans, Michael Pittman, Mike Thomas. Best running backs are Akers and DeAndre Swift for me. What did you make of the fact that Swift did not play last night and the other three running backs did? It seemed as if that was their plan prior to the preseason, that they were going to play Swift game one and then gain well in Boston Scott in game two. I think the fact that Rashad Penny only played, I think, with six snaps

is a pretty good sign that he's probably going to make the team. Trey Sermon did some good things. The touchdown run was nice. He did some awful things. The fumble and some bad pass protection was terrible. So he's probably not going to make the team. I think we still don't have a definitive answer. If I had to ballpark it right now,

based on what their depth chart seems to say, I would say Swift is the number one guy. Gainwell's the number two guy. Penny's the number three guy. And I just don't know. I think you made the right pick there, Adam. I don't know when comparing Swift and Akers that you can say that Swift, in his situation, has more upside or a higher floor than Akers, that you can say that Swift in his situation has more upside or a higher floor than Akers.

Yeah, I think you can. Oh, I think Akers has a much higher ceiling than Swift does right now. Right, I think he has a higher floor too, though. Yeah, he has both. I mean, would you take any Philadelphia running back before pick 80? And here we're at 84 right now. Swift in this range, yeah. But again, we're seeing, you know, again, and this might be the trend.

This is now two PPR drafts that we've done in a row with various people. It's not like we're doing the same people over and over again. The receiver push is real, and the running backs are falling. And so it makes sense if you can go wide receiver early and i mean who would have thought in the in the you know after the nfl draft or even before that we were doing some of these drafts you'd be getting a guy like cam makers a guy like david montgomery you know rashad white you know some of the players that we liked in round seven like you know those are typically like round five picks. So I paused the draft because Heath is on the clock,

and I want Heath to walk us through his thoughts here. The round seven is Montgomery. Round seven so far, as we thought, no tight ends because the top seven are off the board. One, two, three, four, five, yeah. And no quarterbacks because the top eight are off the board. So Montgomery, Camara, Pickens, Gabe Davis, Rashad White to Dave. Jamie took Kamara.

Jordan Addison, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Khalil Herbert. I took Cam Akers. Then Michael Pittman. Then Isaiah Pacheco. Heath, you're going to make your two picks, and then we're going to take our last break. Your team so far, you went with a couple of Cowboys, Lamb and Pollard, then Christian Watson and Miles Sanders.

Jahan Dotson is your number three receiver. TJ Hawkinson is your tight end. You do not have a quarterback. You do not have a flex right now. You are, sir, on the clock. I'm leaning pretty strong towards taking two wide receivers. There are three wide receivers who will be moving up my rankings either this afternoon or in the morning when I do my next

update. And they're all at the top right now of my wide receiver rankings. Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, and Zay Flowers. Those three guys I had as late round seven picks. They're now here at the 7-8 turn. I'm going to take two of them. The only thing that and you might have to give me one more reset here, but the one thing that is stuck in my craw that is maybe preventing me from doing that is the fact that I look at Tua

and Anthony Richardson and I don't think either one of them are going to come back to me. And I really really would like to have one of those guys. But the fact that I already started with Lamb and Pollard, I may just embrace the Cowboys stack, assuming both of those guys get taken. So I think I'm going to go with the veterans. It will make my team less popular in the chat, but Michael Thomas and Mike Evans. And if one of those two guys is what he has always been,

then good grief, my receiving core is insane. Yeah, I would have done the exact same thing. Nice shot. Okay, all right. We're going to take a break here. And when we come back, we will finish up. We're into round eight. I hope somebody takes DeAndre Swift before it gets to me. Otherwise, I'm going to be like, damn it.

I need a receiver. All right, we'll see what happens. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. We've got Team 11 on the clock. That would be Austin. He went with Amandra St. Brown, Devontae Adams, Jameer Gibbs. I think we like that start. Jerry Judy. Yeah.

This team's good, man. Justin Fields, Darren Waller, Isaiah Pacheco. The starting lineup for Team 11 is Fields, Jameer Gibbs, and Pacheco. So the starting lineup for Team 11 is Fields, Jameer Gibbs, and Pacheco, which is not, you know, a little weak there, but that's okay. Three receivers are St. Brown, Adams, and Judy.

Woo! And he gets Darren Waller, and now Antonio Gibson. And this is where, if we could talk more about this DeAndre Swift situation, I think if you look at it on paper and you say, who has more upside, who has more downside? Cam Akers versus DeAndre Swift situation, I think if you look at it on paper and you say, who has more upside, who has more downside? Cam Akers versus DeAndre Swift. It's very easy to see

the Akers, you know, argument, which we already made five minutes ago. But if I wanted to argue for Swift over Akers, over Gibson, who just went, it's this. I think Swift is a great player.

And I know the Eagles are among the most explosive offenses in football. So it might be hard to see it in a projection or right now just to see it. But as the season unfolds, he might just be amazing. And that is what I was worried about missing out on when I took Akers. And now you're going to miss out on Swift because he just got sniped right in front. Good. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. but i would have taken him over gibson because i don't want a commander basically over right heath who you would have taken gibson or swift um i would definitely take gibson over

swift um i would have taken gibson and swift over pacheco okay um and both of those guys over khalil herbert but um. But this range of running backs, I was the huge DeAndre Swift guy a couple years ago, and I do think that it's possible that that full talent profile still exists. I'm just not sure that he's the type of guy that is going to get run out there on 70% of the snaps even.

And if he does, I'm not sure he makes it more than three or four weeks. All right. After Gibson and Swift, we had Sky Moore to me, Evan Ingram, Anthony Richardson to Casey. We like Casey. Yeah, Casey's got a fun team. Casey's got Kup, Waddle, Keenan Allen,

Ramondre Stevenson. He only has one running, Keenan Allen, Ramond Ray Stevenson. He only has one running back through eight rounds. Ramond Ray Stevenson. He has Chris Godwin at his flex, George Kittle. So let me ask you this about Casey again, cup waddle, Keenan Allen.

I have to make a pick for Doug Schaefer. Make a pick for Doug. Can you do that? Give me a thumbs up. Schaefer. Okay. Thank you. Cup waddle,

Keenan Allen, Ramondre Stevenson, Chris Godwin. That's three receivers, a flex, and one running back. George Kittle, now he's got a tight end, takes a bench player, JSN, and then before his next pick, Khalil Herbert, Cam Akers, Isaiah Pacheco, Antonio Gibson, and DeAndre Swift are all gone.

Was JSN a mistake for Casey, considering he already had four wide receivers and he only had one running back? And Herbert, Akers, Pacheco, Gibson, and Swift were all on the board, and now they're not. Nope, not that big of a mistake. He should have gone Akers. Yeah, that's fair. Akers is the one that—

That's a gift. For the way that this team is built, that's just an absolute gift. But then he doesn't get Smith and Jigba, and if that's somebody he really wanted, he did what he had to do. I will say, I would guess Casey would like for us to have Ben Gretsch on the podcast again,

because that was a very Ben Gretsch move. You want one more potential elite wide receiver than you have room to start in case something goes wrong with one of them and i do think that jsn is that that kind of dude if everything goes right but yeah like from a strictly projection or looking at the whole season from this point today acres makes a lot more sense all right so round eight is ev, Gibson, Swift, Sky Moore, Evan Ingram, Anthony Richardson.

Remember, we went a whole round without a quarterback or a tight end. Now we're nine deep at quarterback and eight at tight end off the board so far. Brandon Cooks, Samaje Pirine, Zay Flowers, and Dave's team. Dave went not zero RB, but no running backs in the first four rounds. And now you have James Conner, Rashad White, and Samaj P. Ryan. I bet you feel good about that. I feel good. I don't feel great. But what soothes the pain is having T. Higgins, A.J. Brown, and D.J. Moore,

and Travis Kelsey, and Joe Burrow. So I'm loaded everywhere else. And I can get by with Connor White and P. Ryan as the start of my running back core. I'm going to change. I suspended the draft. We're going to put 30 seconds on the clock. Thomas, give me a thumbs up.

Can you take care of that for me? Thank you, sir. We'll recap the rest of round eight. Again, Anthony Richardson, Brandon Cooks, Dave Took, Samajay Pirine, Zae Flowers off the board, Dalvin Cook. All right, we'll pause there. Dalvin Cook in late round eight.

Brees Hall to the same team in early round five. So that gives him McCaffrey, Brees Hall, and Dalvin Cook at running back. No quarterback yet. Goddard at tight end. And Ridley, Debo, hopkins and pickens at wide receiver jamie what do you think about that team having mcafree breeze hall and dalvin cook in rounds one five and eight i mean it's a it's a it's a huge home run if breeze hall is anything close to what he was and it's not having to worry about the two guys being a complete timeshare and screwing each other.

So it's not ideal for me, but I don't mind it. I just wish he would have probably taken two different wide receivers in the spots that he took them when he took Ridley and Samuel. Like if that is Higgins and Olave, it's a big difference. Yep. Yeah, right. We thought Ridley and Samuel were... For me, at least. You know, again. Alright, Jamie, you took Juju Smith-Schuster as your number three wide receiver. And now you're on the clock. Yeah, I was happy.

Like I said, I'm perfectly fine living in this range if this is the build that I have. And so I took two guys that I like a lot. I thought Sky Moore would fall a little bit more. You took him in the eighth round. I thought Zay Flowers might fall to me. I thought he was actually going to end up being a pretty good steal when Heath was mentioning it at the turn the previous time.

So take Juju and Nico Collins with these two picks, and I'm thrilled about it. Yeah, Jamie took Juju. Then it was Tua Tungabailoa to the number one team, to a team in this first spot in the draft. Finally gets his quarterback at the last pick of round eight. And then he, Michael, took Cortland Sutton. Jamie took Nico Collins.

Heath is not going to get Dak Prescott because he just came off the board. Dave, you are on the clock. A.J. Dillon came off the board. Dave, you need nothing, really. You've got everything filled, so what are you going to do? So I'm reaching a little bit.

I reached for one of my favorite running back stashes in Roshan Johnson. Love the way that he worked in, in the first preseason game. I know the coaching staff in Chicago absolutely loves him. Why wouldn't they, they drafted him. And I don't think his path to being a lead back in Chicago is, is that cluttered.

I think Deontay Foreman might actually be out of the way, I should say. Herbert's still one of my favorite guys to take, and I still believe that Herbert can get close to 1,000 total yards this year. But if he misses time, I think Roshan slides right in, and I think he could be very, very good in this offense. So I'm going to have a very patient approach with him. I'm drafting him here at about 100th overall, and he will sit on my bench pretty much for the entire season. Hopefully, he'll be in my lineup sooner than later.

All right. I have to make a pick for Doug here. Somebody read me Doug's team. Doug has on his fantasy team. Eckler, Mahomes, Andrews, Aaron Jones, Terry McLaurin, James Cook, Jordan Atkinson. Zach Charbonnet. Yeah, I gave him Charbonnet. It's fine. All right. So, you know, why is Jalen Warren

not in the same discussion as the three guys who just went? A.J. Dillon. I mean, I get that. Dillon's got a big role. Rashawn Johnson, Zach Charbonnet, though. If we think Najee might stink, Heath, I'll get this question to you. And based on one drive in the

preseason, Warren was a part of it. I feel like Warren is just going too late compared to these other, you know, handcuffs with some role. Yeah, I think I would agree with you. I would take Warren in the same range as Roshan and A-Chain and Penny,

usually around later than this. And I think Dave said he was reaching a little bit for Roshan compared to his ranking. So I think Dave probably agrees usually around later than this too. So it's not for me, it's maybe more that these handcuffs are going a little earlier than I normally take them than it is that Warren is going later.

But I might have to take the way they're going off the board so fast. I might have to take Warren at the 9-10 turn. Well, I just got auto-picked Brian Robinson. That sucked because I absolutely would have taken Traylon Burks. Well, just take him. That's all right. I'll just keep this draft going. I really wish you would. It's a mock. All right, fine. Well, just take him. Nah, it's all right. I'll just keep this draft going. I really wish you would.

It's a mock. All right, fine. I'll back it out. I actually, am I going to take Elijah? Yeah, I'll take Traylon Burks here. I like Traylon Burks. So I definitely need some wide receivers. Elijah Moore is still on the board.

I'm going to take Traylon Burks, though. Okay, sorry about that to uh anthony who did take trailing berks now you have to take someone else please don't hate me for it that was kind of mean wow so you not only went back and fixed it you took somebody who was taken after you told me to cardinal sin of resetting like you can't take somebody who somebody else took you told me to i wasn't gonna do it you would oh sure blame. Oh, sure. Blame Heath. I always blame Heath. Yeah, that's kind of a... says something about you.

All right. Anyway, let's wait for Anthony to make a new pick. How you guys doing? Big weekend plans? I'm going to the Giants game tonight. Nice. Good for you. I think the starters are

going to play. They are for both teams. Giants had an interesting week. Out of nowhere, they got a joint practice with the Bucs in because the Jets didn't want to practice with them. Yeah, very cool. That was fun. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. I'm getting killed in the chat for what I did. Deservedly so.

And I yeah, I'm enjoying it. Quinton Johnston off the board. Elijah Moore off the board. Heath on the clock with two picks, rounds nine and ten. I have to admit something that I encourage you to reset that because I already had five wide receivers and I only had two running backs

and I really wanted Brian Robinson. The ethics. I'm very happy that happened. And I think I'm at the point now where I've been pretty skeptical of Deshaun Watson but thank you to the athletic if I can draft Deshaun Watson in round 10 yeah I still think that that upside still exists now I'm gonna have to take another quarterback later I'm very disappointed and I do think I'm probably going to move Anthony Richardson up a little bit because I am disappointed that I don't have him. But I'm happy with Deshaun Watson.

All right. Brian Robinson, Deshaun Watson. Romeo Dobbs gets drafted. Pick 110 overall. Anthony's on the clock now. Whoever he takes, I'm just going to make him take someone else and then I'm going to draft that player. He took Pat Friermuth. So let's look at some wide receivers here.

I don't think it makes sense. I have Sky Moore. I don't think it makes sense. I have Sky Moore. I don't think it makes sense to take Kadarius Toney also. Jamison Williams is available. What do you guys make of the fact that he now has a hamstring injury? I think he looked terrible in the preseason game. No chance I'm drafting him in a redraft. Yeah, I think I'm out on him.

Okay, I'll take Kadarius Toney. Isn't that the definition of the friendship strategy? What, more on Tony? Late rounds, high upside. It's usually you're taking somebody early. Yeah, it's usually early and late where you like the value for both of them. One of them is kind of guaranteed to be a starter

if the other gets hurt or something like that. I don't feel that way about any Chiefs wide receiver. I'm actually hoping that I made that Tony pick and that'll free up a roster spot when he's on PUP or IR to start the season. That's like maybe put in my pocket. Here's Jalen Warren off the board. Rashad Bateman,

Jalen Warren. This will be our last round and then we'll recap our teams through 10 rounds. Dave, you're on deck. Really a little disappointed with this team that auto-drafted, but we'll make a pick for Doug. It was for scientific purposes. It's a fantastic team. He took a quarterback and a tight end with his first three picks.

Give me a position for Doug. In the grave. Definitely needs a wide receiver here. I don't want to give him Beckham. God, I hate the wide receivers right now. I hate them all. There are very few good players left. I'm going off the board.

It's 115th overall. I went with Rondell Moore way down in the rankings for you guys. Okay. He wasn't that far down for me. Okay. Poor Doug. Beckham, Jamison Williams, Tank Dell, DJ Chark, Alan Lazard, Tyler Boyd, Adam Thielen.

They are on the board. I took Rondell Moore. Dave, who are you going to take here? Got a tough call to make. I'm going to need the clock to reset because I didn't know I had eight seconds left when I was up. Tough call between my highest-ranked running back, which is Tank Bigsby, Njoku,

Kincaid. Let's see. What would I do? What would Dave do? It's time for Kincaid to be taken here. Yeah, but I've got Kelsey. I think I've got to take Bigsby. He'll be my last running back that I draft. Jamie, you're in the

hole. Not quite on deck. Tank Bigsby, the pick. Round 10 so far is Watson, Dobbs, Friermuth, Tony, Bateman, Jalen Warren, Rondell Moore, Tank Bigsby, and Tank Dell. Oh, Tankathon. A couple of Tank Bigsby and Tank Dell back-to-back. That might be a good team name this year, if you get those guys. Jamie, now you're on deck, as we wait for Nathan to pick. Nathan has McCaffrey.

So Nathan, I think, probably needs a running back, because he has McCaffrey and two Jets. Might as well take Elijah Mitchell. He took Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, you're right. He should have Elijah Mitchell. He took a Zekio Elliott. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. He should have taken Mitchell. Jamie, you're on the clock.

You took David Njoku. Yeah, that worked out well. You're totally going to take Kincaid with your next pick if he's there, right? Totally. Yeah. All right. Hint, hint, Michael. You're on the clock for two picks and doesn't have a tight end.

So we'll see what he does. I think even if he may not even be listening. He took Jamal Williams. I think Kincaid makes sense for him. But who else do we have at tight end? Let's see. We have Dalton Schultz. We have Dalton Kincaid. We have Sam Laporta, Jawan Johnson. Michael may not get any

of them if he doesn't take a tight end here. He just took Jamal Williams and he took Dalton Kincaid. All right, Jamie. So now what do you do? You took your tight end and David Njoku in the last round. Kincaid's off the board. You go Laporta. No, I'm going to take maybe a steal. We'll see how this works out.

I don't know how good he is, but he might get the starting running back job for the Eagles. So I'll take Kenneth Gainwell. Kenneth Gainwell. Love that pick. We know that it's going to be a mess all year long, but look at the two running backs in front of Gainwell. Penny hasainwell. Love that pick. We know that it's going to be a mess all year long, but look at the two running backs in front of Gainwell. Penny has had a hard time staying healthy.

Swift, less of a hard time staying healthy, but still misses time. There could be weeks this year where Gainwell is their obvious lead back. Okay, let's recap all of the teams through 10 rounds. The first pick, this is a three receiver PPR league. First pick was Justin Jefferson. Team one has Tua,

Mixon, Taylor, Montgomery, and Jamal Williams at running back. Jefferson, Deontay Johnson, Drake London, Marquise Brown,

Cortland Sutton at wide receiver, and Dalton Kincaid at tight end. Like, love, hate, like, give me a word. If Taylor is right, I love it. Yep. Either of you guys got a gut instinct on what happens there?

He has a very crappy year. I'm leaning towards trade. Okay. I love the team. Even with Dalton Kincaid, he might be weak at tight end, whatever. You got to, and you're loaded at running back and receiver.

Team two was Jamie. Jamar Chase, Josh Jacobs, Chris Olave were his first three picks. His starting lineup would be Lawrence. I'll just go, I'll go, yeah, all right. Lawrence, Jacobs, Dobbins, Pierce, Chase, Olave, Juju,

with David Njoku at tight end, and on the bench, Nico Collins and Kenneth Gainwell. Oh, and Kamara. I forgot about Kamara. Really strong team, I think, for Jamie. Anybody have any issues with Jamie's team? Not enough purple, but I'll take it.

I think if there was an issue, it's Dobbins and Pierce in rounds four and five. Maybe they don't catch a lot of passes that are more format specific, but we're nitpicking I mean right if we were going to nitpick Jamie's team it's Josh Jacobs isn't with Las Vegas and even if he was

with them can we really expect him to be as good next year or good this year as he was last year as JK Dobbins ever going to be the guy that we thought he'd be is Pierce going to be the guy like he's got enough at running back. I love the running backs.

He's got four really good ones. And all he needs is to start two of them each week, maybe three. And the receivers are obviously dope. This is a great team. Okay. Um, team three,

Christian McCaffrey, uh, was the first pick for team three. This team, we thought reached for some picks, uh, Dak Prescott, McCaffrey, Brees Hall, with also Dalvin Cook,

Calvin Ridley, Debo Samuel, DeAndre Hopkins, and George Pickens. Ridley was taken ahead of Olave. Debo was taken ahead of Tee Higgins. So in theory, that could have been Olave and maybe Higgins, maybe not, but maybe Olave and Debo or Olave and Keenan Allen. I think what we end up seeing, though,

just based on most ADPs is Higgins goes before Olave. Right. He could have had either Higgins or Olave. I don't think he would have gotten both. One of them would have been taken by Jamie. But anyway, this team is Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey and Brees Hall, Calvin Ridley, Debo is, this team is Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey, and Brees Hall, Calvin Ridley, Debo Samuel,

Deandre Hopkins, George Pickens with Dalvin cook, Ezekiel Elliott, and Jeff Wilson, Jeff Wilson on the bench. Um, it's not a bad build really. Just,

we just didn't love the wide receivers around two and three, I think. Right? No, the build, the build is perfect. It's just, again,

if, if those are swapped out and, and to be honest, Adam, I think, right? No, the build is perfect. It's just, again, if those are swapped out, and to be honest, Adam, if he had gone Olave, I'd probably take Mark Andrews there to just avoid taking both Bengals. Oh, right, because you had Chase already. You wouldn't have gone Higgins in round three. Okay, so maybe you could have had Olave and Higgins. Right.

All right, team four was Adam, a different Adam. Adam 101. Tyreek Hill and Devontae Smith with his first two picks. His team is Jalen Hurts, Najee Harris, Alexander Madison, Tyreek Hill, Devontae Smith, Tyler Lockett, Gabe Davis, and Dalton Schultz at tight end. On his bench, we've got A.J. Dillons, Zay Flowers, Tank Dell.

Do we like this team? Yeah. Yes. C. C. Dave went with Kelsey, A.J. Brown, T. Higgins, D.J. Moore. His starting lineup is Burrow at quarterback,

Kelsey at tight end. Didn't pick a running back until round five. James Conner, Rashad White at running back, and then, bam, Brown, Higgins, D.J. Moore at wide receiver. Flex could be Samaje, Pirine, Rashad Johnson, Tank Bigsby, Odell Beckham. You like it, Dave? I like it.

Every time I look at the running backs and I go, oh, God, really? Connor and Rashad White are my lead backs and P. Ryan in the flex. I have to give myself the reminder that I took Travis Kelsey. And that's what it comes down to. Like where I took Travis Kelsey,

debated about getting a running back there. The only reason why I took Kelsey was to see what the team would look like if I drafted Travis Kelsey instead of a running back. There was a spot late in the draft. It was right before Jamie took Njoku. Njoku and Kincaid were both on the board. At that point, I was kind of like, oh, you know what?

Like, if I had just taken Austin Eckler in round one, I could have gotten by when Njoku or Kincaid at tight end and been really happy with this team. But Kelsey's pretty awesome, and if he's got a year like last year in him, then he's putting up numbers like a top five type of wide receiver, doing it at my tight end spot gives me a huge advantage over the rest of you blokes. I think the nice thing that Dave did was he got lucky, but played the board by not, because we said, oh, take a quarterback in round five, really go

zero RB, and look what happened to him in round six, ending up with Joe Burrow. The only thing is, and this is the same debate we had with, I think, with Casey taking a fifth receiver as opposed to maybe a running back there. Would Dave have been better off with a receiver instead of James Conner? I don't know if there was one at the time. I'll tell you who was there. McLaurin.

No, to get the... I mean, I see who was there, but, you know, McLaurin, Godwin, Mike Williams, those type of guys, Christian Kirk. Is that better than James Conner? You know, and just getting the stronger flex as opposed to even worrying about the running back. And that's where the zero RB theory comes into play.

It's like, do you have the strong flex knowing it's a safer pick at the receiver spot? And then you still end up with Rashad White as your number one, and even Piran as your number two. And then you still end up with Rashad White as your, as your number one, and even P Ryan as your number two. And then just, you know,

instead of taking Beckham to that spot, maybe that's another running back dart throw, you know, you're just kind of building that running back core out that way. So it's, it's just a matter of, you know, RB one versus flex.

And if James Connor hits, obviously you made the right choice, but you know, the safer play and maybe the still more upside play would have been the fourth receiver. All right, let's go to Team 6. Doug started with Austin Eckler. This was the experimental team that we drafted

for Doug. Eckler, Mahomes, Andrews is how we started, and then Aaron Jones, so no wide receiver until round five. His starting lineup is Patrick Mahomes, Austin Eckler, Aaron Jones. Wide receivers are McLaurin, Jordan Addison, and Brandon Cooks.

James Cook will be his flex. And Higby. Oh, I'm sorry. He already is Andrews, right? So it's actually, I mean, look, McLaurin, Addison, Cooks, not great, but starting James Cook in your flex could be great. I don't know. I think it worked out.

Did it work out, Heath? Many ways to getting a cat. Yeah. This was maybe my favorite team until... I still think that... I'm sorry. I'm on to Casey's team and Team 7. I still think Casey needs to take a quarterback

like now because he has Anthony Richardson. We still have some good ones left. Casey is going to roll out Anthony Richardson. But, you know, we still have got some good ones left. Casey is going to roll out Anthony Richardson, Ramondre Stevenson, who we took in the middle of round four, and then he's got a whole bunch of potential RB2s, Rashad Penny, Jalen Warren, Damian Harris, Chuba Hubbard.

We think that he should have taken Cam Akers instead of a fifth wide receiver. But his wide receivers are cup waddle, Keenan Allen and Chris Godwin and George. And I do want to say he was listening and he said in the chat of the draft, Ben Gretsch and I are very similar in our thoughts. I still follow his work. So I was right about the idea of like the JSN pick, I think,

um, but it's a very good team. Okay. John had Bijan Robinson in the first round, and he will trot out a lineup of Lamar Jackson, Bijan Robinson, and Javante Williams, who he took in round six.

Garrett Wilson, Amari Cooper, and Mike Williams. Khalil Herbert could be the flex, and Evan Ingram is the tight end. We've got A-Chain, Algier, Deuce Vaughn on the bench, Rashad Bateman. I don't love this team. I don't know what it is, guys.

I didn't love Amari Cooper in round three. I didn't love Mike Williams in round five. I didn't love Javante Williams in round six. Maybe that's why I didn't love the team. But am I wrong here? So this, again, is Lamar Jackson, Bijan Robinson. RB2 is tough. Javante, Khalil Herbert

could be RB2, but Garrett Wilson, Amari Cooper, Mike Williams, Rashad Bateman are his only wide receivers, and he's Ingram at tight end. Yeah, I don't love it. I don't know how you guys feel. I don't hate it. I mean, look how you guys feel. I don't hate it.

I mean, look, I think Cooper maybe went a little bit too soon, but there are people, I don't think we agree with this, but there are people that, that do think that Cooper belongs ahead of Metcalf and Watson and, and Judy.

And if, you know, Deshaun Watson is right. His number one receiver has obviously been very fantastic. The majority of his career. So Cooper still profiles as that guy. And so, look, Mike Williams, again, we probably, as we said, maybe went a couple spots too soon.

But B. John Wilson's a good place to be. Lamar Jackson's a good place to be if Javante's right. I mean, there's a lot of questions, but it could certainly still work out. Yeah, I just think that if you can say Cooper should go ahead of Metcalf and Watson, but you could, but I don't think he should go ahead of Josh Allen. I don't think he should go ahead of Jameer Gibbs or Travis Etienne.

Heath took Miles Sanders. So maybe just a different position there. And then he could have gotten probably Cooper in round four, honestly. Yeah, I mean, you know, is the combination of Josh Allen and what was the next team with DJ Moore? Yeah, that's probably better. All right, next team is mine. Stefan Diggs was my first pick, ninth overall. Josh Allen at quarterback.

Nick Chubb, Travis Etienne at running back. Diggs, Christian Kirk, and then Sky Moore right now is my number three receiver. Kyle Pitts at tight end. I have Cam Akers at flex. I also have Traylon Burks and Kadarius Tony on the bench with Elijah Mitchell, Jarek McKinnon, Jawan Johnson. So I knew I was going to be weak at wide receiver three.

I didn't take that position until round eight, but I like the way my team turned out with Allen, Pitts, Diggs, Chubb, ETN anchoring it. Anybody have a problem with my team? The only concern I have is you may only have three receivers to start the season if Burks and Tony are not ready for week one. Yeah, you're right. And so that like

taking that combination, I know why you took the two Chiefs guys. I get it. But that combination probably is not the best route to go when you're trying to get some upside plays, knowing that you only took those three guys with your first nine picks. All right, guys. It's a riskier team than you normally draft.

I like it, but it's definitely got more boom bust, I think, than normal. Let's go. I have to run to a meeting. I'm sorry. You also got significant gifts with how Allen and Etienne fell. Yeah.

I like the team, Adam. Thank you. Don't listen to the haters. All right, 10, 11, 12. Yeah. I like the team, Adam. Thank you. Don't listen to the haters. All right, 10, 11, 12. No, I like his team. It's just that I think is risky. And I also think, like, I understand the Elijah Mitchell pick.

That probably would have been... That's your team? Yep. I think, again, you probably should have part... Like, I don't know why you're taking a second tight end. Because I'm reading all these teams and have 10 seconds to pick every time. Gotcha. Yeah have part. I don't know why you're taking a second tight end. Because I'm reading all these teams and have 10 seconds to pick every time. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah.

All right. We have three teams left. Team 10 started with Barkley, Derek Henry. So this team will have Justin Herbert at quarterback, Barkley and Henry at running back, Metcalf, Ayuk, and Pittman at wide receiver, and Ken

Walker at flex, which is very nice. Quentin Johnston on the bench. Oh, Pat Fryermuth is the tight end. So this team went with only one wide receiver in the first five rounds, but picked that flex of Ken Walker and has Metcalf, Ayuk, and Pittman as the three receivers and Fryermuth and Justin Herbert. So great running backs, great quarterback.

I don't know. If he just does one thing differently, I love this team. Oh, what? Garrett Wilson over Derek Henry. Yeah, I mean, in hindsight, if he knew he could get Walker in round five, maybe he would have done that. But yeah, in a three-receiver PPR league,

starting running back, running back is risky, especially with the risks associated with Derrick Henry team 11 started with Amandra St. Brown and Devante Adams then Jameer Gibbs this team is Justin Fields Gibbs and Pacheco at running back strength of

the team is wide receiver obviously St. Brown Adams and Judy and Darren Waller so this team is you know strong at quarterback with fields, potentially with Waller at tight end, amazing at wide receiver, St. Brown, Adams, and Judy. We think amazing. Jameer Gibbs as an anchor RB.

And then you got Pacheco and Gibson and Mostert, Ty Chandler, also Elijah Moore and Romeo Dobbs. Heath, I like this team. I'm giving it an A. What do you think? I was, I thought maybe it was my least favorite team so far. Um, but I, I like Justin feel a bit again, like that's more of a personal preference thing.

Probably. I'm the low guy on Judy and I don't have Gibbs in round three and I've got Darren Waller as a bust and I don't like Isaiah Pacheco. So I'm probably not, I'm probably not going to like that team very much. Does anybody like this team? Very much so. Heath,

it's good that this team drafted right before you. Right. Well, and I was going to say like even Jamie, like Jamie doesn't like Devante Adams with the second pick of round two. Yeah. I don't, I don't like that player,

that spot, but I like the build. You know, I think again, if you, if you forget about where he drafts them, you come away from the draft knowing you got St. Brown Adams and Judy, that's a pretty good receiving core in this type of format.

And then Jameer Gibbs, you know, I'm very excited about him. So, you know, I think you got to, you know, running backs and catch a lot of passes. Justin Fields is great value knowing how these quarterbacks have gone off the board. I think Darren Waller is top three tight end. So I love that there. And then again, knowing that he did sort of a hero RB build to get Pacheco and Gibson and then some high upside guys, Moser could still be the best running back in Miami,

and Chandler might be pushing Alexander Madison by the middle of the season to be the starting running back there in Minnesota. So I don't particularly love all the players that he took, but I like the build. I like the concept. If he's going to go hero RB, then the first mistake he made was not taking Pollard in round one because when he was up, Pollard was there, but so was Lamb, Amon, Rod, Devante, Garrett Wilson. Guaranteed that one of those wide receivers would make it back to him in round two.

Why not take Pollard in round one, then your favorite wide receiver in round two, and then when you're up in round three, if you want to take Gibbs, you can still take Gibbs, but Watson was there, Judy was there if you wanted to take him. I think that he would have had a better build out, better players with the same idea of going hero RB if he had taken Pollard first. If you're going to go hero RB, get the hero. Go get one of those guys.

Gibbs is not a hero. No, but he didn't go hero RB. That's what I'm saying. I don't think he went in with the idea of I'm going hero RB, which is the right way to go. Don't go in with i'm locked into this strategy he went with the player he felt was the best on the board which was tomorrow st brown which i'm not going to argue and then again he took his favorite receiver in the next round and so at that point he's like okay who's the next best player i'm just you know putting myself in his head i love those

first four picks in in theory how he did it right you just wouldn't have taken Adams there. If you, if you, if it's St. Brown, AJ Brown or Wilson there. Yeah. I love that. Guys, I'm sorry. I do have to run.

So let's just do Heath's team here. And it's a for work thing. I promise. He's team is, um, Deshaun Watson at quarterback. He went with the CD lamb and Pollard with his first two picks to Sean Watson and Daniel Jones,

baby. All right. Uh, uh, Pollard and miles first two picks. Deshaun Watson and Daniel Jones, baby. All right. Pollard and Miles Sanders. Lamb, Watson, Jahan Dotson. And the flex would be Michael Thomas or Mike Evans or maybe Brian Robinson. And TJ Hawkinson at tight end. You like it?

No. Really? I like it. I hated it since we got to round three but it's i mean it's fine it's just it's meh i if you had etn instead of sanders i know you have sanders higher i would love this team yeah but there's there's got to be more to it heath what is it that you hate no i just think you don't get as many opportunities to have great difference makers picking in that spot. And I've got a lot of guys that are fine. Like I was happy

with TJ Hawkinson because he fell to the end of round five, but I don't, I don't think TJ Hawkinson is actually going to be like, he's probably going to be two points per game better than tight end seven or something, or a point and a half better or something. I didn't get the possibility, one of the great quarterbacks, and I didn't get one of the great quarterbacks, and I didn't get one of my breakout quarterbacks in Richardson or Tua, so I'm just hoping that Deshaun Watson remembers how to process

information and throw footballs. And so, it's just, it's fine. You got Daniel Jones, bro. You're good. Maybe I could... If you don't take the two old receivers and you do take your quarterback there, it's a much different team. Yeah, I think he's just taking Anthony Richardson over Michael Thomas.

Yeah, could have done that. All right, guys, thank you so much. Thanks to our participants in the draft today. Thanks to Schaefer for setting this all up. We've got the mailbag coming up later this afternoon, but you'll hear it on Saturday. You can see it on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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