Fantasy Football Today - Live Mock Draft! 12 Teams, PPR, Fans-Only Mock (06/10 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Let's see how the fans do as we put them on the clock! We start off with some news and notes and then get the draft going (8:55). It's 12 teams, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex. See how different strategies played out and get a sense of when to prioritize each position. You don't want to wait too long at wide receiver and you don't want to wait too long to draft bench depth at running back.  Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fan To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Solve the puzzle, save the patient. Watson. All episodes now streaming on Paramount+. fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Tuesday, June 10th. Welcome to fantasy football today. What an opportunity we have for our audience right now. Welcome everybody. This is Adam Azer with Dan Schneier and Jamie Isenberg.

We are participating, actually we are watching a PPR mock draft, 12 teams, only our fans in this one. And if you, if you, the lucky viewer out there is watching live at youtube.com slash fantasy football today, you have an opportunity to join the draft and be on the show basically. We're gonna, oh, Joey Wright is here. We'd love to get another fantasy analyst,

even if he's not a CBS guy in on the draft. So Thomas Schaefer is going to post the link to the draft right now. And the first 12 people to click that link and claim a spot in the draft are in. In the meantime, Jamie, Dan, and I will go through the news and notes. All right.

You think I would do well if I were like the Price is Right voiceover guy who told people to come on down? I actually think that'd be an excellent job for you. Not gonna lie. What I don't think will be good for you is, and I did have to bring this up to start the show real quick,

our next tennis match because there's a really, there's a private message that I really do really enjoy between us three. I won't reveal what the title of that private messages. It's not safe for air, but you can just think back to an episode where I had a precarious looking shirt on. I was blocked by the microphone. Anyway, point being, last week, Adam was texting,

all excited about his tennis game. He's been playing three, four times a week. And he said, you know what, you know what? I think, I think we shouldn't make the, we shouldn't wait until this summer, until you know, the end of the summer for St. Jude to play tennis. I think we should play a first match right now and then play again. And then immediately, Jamie, did I not immediately say, okay, let's go. And after that crickets for madam, absolute crickets. He regretted putting it out there. He hasn't

followed up since I private texted him. I private DMed him. When are we playing? I showed up at his house the other night waiting to play. All right, all right, all right. We gotta get the show on. I don't think it benefits me to play you right now. Cause I think I would do- Why did you offer it? I was, it was a silly offer.

I think I would do fairly well. And I think it would motivate you to practice to train harder. And I don't want that. That's the angle you're taking. Yeah, I don't want, I, yeah. Cause there's no, if I lose, there's no downside for me by losing bad.

If I do well, then it's. There's definite downside to lose bad. You lost six to six on our match. It would just fire me up. No, then I would train more, but if I do well, then you will train more and I don't want that. Okay, here are your news and notes. You know the nice thing is that Dan went to Hawaii

just to play tennis, to practice for you. Yes. It sparked a new fervor for tennis for me and I cannot wait. The nice thing is that Dan went to Hawaii just to play tennis, to practice for you. It sparked a new fervor for tennis for me and I cannot wait. I'm playing again this week, Adam. You're in a lot of trouble. Okay. Some players not at mini camp, not unexpectedly.

Cincinnati defensive end Trey Hendrickson, Pittsburgh edge rusher TJ Watt, Washington wide receiver Terry McLaurin, not at mini camp. You never wanna see a player getting a second opinion on his shoulder from Dr. Neil Eltrage, the basically premier shoulder guy out there. But that's what Anthony Richardson is doing, he's getting a second opinion on his shoulder from Dr. Eltrage. We'll keep an eye on that.

Just a note for you here, when Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor were both on the field last year, from the three yard line or closer, Jonathan Taylor only had 50% of the carries. He had 10, Richardson had eight, Trey Sermon had one, Zach Moss had one. 50% of the, I call that goal line,

you could, you know, whatever you want. I one to three yard line, you know, make your own rules on what is a goal line carry. That's not great. So, and Jamie, you know, look at the career running back target rate for Daniel Jones in four of his six seasons. It was pretty low in two of his six seasons. The first two with Brian Dable,

it was 10th and 12th in the league, running back target rate for Daniel Jones. For example, he had Saquon Barkley in 16 games at 57 catches. So in 2022 with Daniel Jones at quarterback. So yeah, I think you said maybe slight upgrade for Jonathan Taylor, who was a top seven running back per game in all formats last year and only 14 games.

I would think more goal line carries or higher percentage of goal line carries and more catches. Would you say that's fair with Daniel Jones? I don't think the catches could be worse. He had a career low 18 last year, so it's not like we're expecting him to, I can't imagine him being worse than that. So I would hope he can get to, you know, the 40 catch range, you know, which certainly is something he has in his profile, but you're not drafting Jonathan Taylor to be a receiver. You're drafting him to be, you know, 1500 plus yards rushing, which he was on pace for in a 17 game season and, you know, north of 12 touchdowns, which

he had 11 in those 14 games. So, you know, that's the expectation for Taylor, which is why he's gone from number one overall in 2022 to now an early third round pick. So, assuming everything is right and a couple other news items that didn't mention, James Cook actually showed up to manage. Oh, huge. So, those two guys are sort of close for me if everything's right for Cook because you're banking on rushing yards and touchdowns for him as well. Last year he led or tied for the NFL lead in rushing touchdowns in terms of Cook and

you know not expecting Jonathan Taylor to to be a pass catcher. Again, I don't really worry too much about the rushing touchdowns with Richardson because it is such a small sample size, but I think it's just something you know again, you're sort of nitpicking, but you know non PPR, Jonathan Taylor'sicking, but you know, non PPR, Don and the tailors in consideration for first round pick. PPR, he's a third round pick, half PPR, probably second round pick. Oh, okay.

I mean, with a career low, 18 catches and 14 games, he was still RB seven per game last year. So we're doing a PPR draft right now. But that was a lot of Joe Flacco performances too. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know if he'll make it to the third round. I, you know, PPR league. Let's find out right now, right? We're about to start this draft, 12 team league, full PPR.

I'll give you the format in just a second. A few more quick news items. Nick Chubb did officially sign his deal one year, two and a half million dollars. Drake May says he's focusing on taking what's open, shorter passes, quicker passes, instead of holding the ball, waiting too long. Cam Akers is visiting the Saints today and Jayalen Wright, Dolphins running back Jalen Wright says he's lost a lot of body fat. He's gained more muscle. I think he's going to have a role. I think we all think he's going to have a role this year as an interesting

player. And we'll see where he goes. Okay, here we go. Did you get Johnna Smith? No, what's going on here? No, Johnna Smith and Jalen Ramsey, not at mandatory mini camp for the Dolphins. So don't be surprised if there's a John New trade at some point. Well, he wanted a new contract. And so it's not a shock that he's, he wants a new contract.

It's not a shock that he's missing, but yes, we'll keep an eye on a John New trade, which I think if there is a John New trade, you guys will finally be ready to move Tyreek Hill up to where I have Tyreek Hill, which I'm not sure. What Tyreek is your third running back and Tyreek Hill. Which I'm not sure. What Tyreek? Is McAfree your third running back and Tyreek as your third receiver? McAfree as my second running back.

Second running back. Third overall. And Tyreek, no, not as my third receiver. Probably like ninth. At least the streak continues. Yeah, there we go. Okay, let's start the draft. Here we go. So the format is full PPR, 12 teams, 13 rounds, one quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, one tight end, one flex. So shallow rosters here. But a lot of people play in this type of format. And I want to thank our 12 audience members for joining. And here we go. We're on the clock. All right, who's the number one pick for you guys

if you had the number one pick? Chase. It's Chase for me as well. Especially in this format. Husky Huskies is on the clock. All right, listen, if you're drafting, we gave you a minute for each pick. It was a debate before the show.

Should it be 30 seconds or a minute? 30, it was supposed to be 30. I said a minute, I had faith. It's taken 40 seconds to make the first pick. We're still on the clock here. Like, come on Husky Huskies, you got to make this pick. We need your help here. We need you to be on the ball.

Otherwise you're going to get auto-picked, which whatever. All right, he took Jamar Chase, perfect. Second pick should be who? Beezer. And it is Saquon Barkley. All right, Dan, I know Heath, Dave, Jamie, they have Bijan as RB1. Who's your RB1? This is going to be a great debate. I think for now it's going to be Saquon Barkley. I think we're discounting him a little too much.

I don't think there's any drop off from an athleticism standpoint. And almost everything has returned from him from a situation standpoint. There is also upside for Barkley if he converts some of those touchdowns that he didn't convert from inside the five that went to Jalen Hurts on the next play.

So age is the only thing holding him back, I guess. I just don't really understand the discount in a much better offense than Bijan Robinson and in a better role. Christian would be the only one, I think, who can kind of compete with him for it, but I'm not willing to put him over Barkley, so it's Barkley.

Okay, Barkley was on pace for 35 catches last year. He played 16 games, had 33 catches. He also had, he led the NFL, he led all running backs with nine carries that went to the one yard line. Five of those were followed by tush push touchdowns for Jalen hurts. Bijon had 60 catches in 17 games. So all right, we got a lot of picks flying off the board here.

All right, let's catch up. So we've got Jamar chase, Saquon Barkley, Bijon Robinson third, Justin Jefferson, CD lamb, Jamir Gibbs goes sixth as the third running back. Malik Neighbors, Malik Neighbors over Amanra St. Brown who went next, then Puka Nakua, then Nico Collins. Jamie, Malik Neighbors as wide receiver for the seventh overall pick. What do you think about that ahead of St. Brown, Nakua, Nico, and now Ashton Gentry off the board? Yeah, I have it ranked that way also. I think neighbors upside is immense.

Dan has talked about this quite a bit. I agree, you know, Russell Wilson, I think is a plus for him just with how he'll attack downfield and allow neighbors to, you know, open up a little bit more of his route tree. He's still gonna be the dominant target getter on this offense, you know, looking at Wondell Robinson and Darius Slayton,

you know, I know Russell Wilson will probably spread the ball around a little bit more than the guys last year But you don't do the things that neighbors did as a rookie and not have an opportunity to build off of that So it's close, you know Pooka's obviously in a great spot I'm on my st. Brown has tried and true and Nikko Collins could have another you know Not break out but no step forward if he stays healthy and builds off what he's done the two years with with TJ Straub, but I just like the trajectory of neighbors and well, it could be risky to buy into

the Giants with their schedule and maybe some quarterback, you know, turn over if Russell struggles or the team struggles. But I think this is a positive for him getting Russell Wilson and what he showed last year. I can't, all right. You say you have him over Puka. Dan, how about you, neighbors or Puka? It's neighbors for me, for certain. Man, all right. I'm surprised, because Puka, neighbors had a great rookie year, right?

Well, Puka had a better rookie year. Puka left week one with an injury and got thrown out in another game. And if you take those two games out, if you look at the games where he had a normal snap share, 75% or higher, he was on pace for 189 targets last year, 142 catches, 1781 yards. Touchdowns are a little bit of an issue for Puka

so far in his career. He hasn't been a big touchdown guy, but the guy who steals most of the red zone and end zone and green zone targets was Cooper Cup and he's gone. So I don't know what else we could ask for from Pukka Nakua. Well, if there was no Devonte Adams, I would agree with you. But Cup had a huge role. Cup had a huge role last year.

It's still a big one-two situation. It always will be when a Sean McVeigh offense. And I do think his role is fine. For me, neighbors gets the edge because the massive upgrade neighbors gets a quarterback. One of the things that held neighbors back last year was touchdowns, but not because neighbors wasn't able to do to score touchdowns against the Colts in week 17, he scored two with true lock having his one good game. So I think the upgrade there gives him more touchdown upside than Puka for

sure. And I also think there's more target upside. There's more upside after the catch, and there's a better health profile. But I'm still a little nervous about Puka long-term. Injured throughout college, injured each of his first two seasons. I know he played a lot of them,

but he also dealt with injuries in both. He didn't get hurt as a rookie, did he? Yeah, I thought he didn't get hurt as a rookie. No, he made it that whole season through. Okay, and I was wrong about that. Sorry about that. But injured his second season in all of through. Okay, and I was wrong about that. Sorry about that. But injured his second season in all of college. Okay, we paused the draft, so I'll catch everybody up.

Again, it was Chase, Barkley, Bijon, Jefferson, Lamb, Gibbs. By the way, the best way to follow this is to watch it on YouTube. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. Neighbors, oh, click the live tab if you wanna see archives of our podcasts. Neighbors, Amanra St. Brown, Pukka Nakuwa, Nico Collins. So that is three running backs and seven wide receivers

with the first 10 picks. Then we get Ashton Genti, 11th, Christian McCaffrey, 12th, Brian Thomas, 13. So the team with the 12th pick went McCaffrey, Brian Thomas, the team with the 11th pick. I'm trying to read the seven. I can't read the name, sorry. Ashton Genti in the first round, Derrick Henry in the second round. And we still have AJ Brown on the board.

He did not go. Drake London was the next wide receiver. So if you're looking at the team that took Genti, Jamie, with the 11th overall pick going with Derek Henry, instead of say AJ Brown, which would have been wide receiver nine or Drake London, if you wanted to take him or Brock Bowers or Trey McBride, real quick, then we'll move on. We'll unpause the draft in a moment here. What did you think of that pick Henry 14th overall and a running back running back start in a full PPR league. I don't love it, but I want to see how it plays out. You know, I mean, anytime you,

you know, see the first two rounds, you can't really judge how the the team is going to look. And so, you know, if the manager, Team Eleven has a strong plan and, you know, is going to just load up a wide receiver and may end up with, you know, a solid group, just not a headliner, it could still work out great. I just think based on what the talent pool will start to look like when we get back to the end of round three and the beginning of round four, you might end up regretting taking a receiver there looking at the running back depth that might be available. But again, we have to see how the draft plays out. Yeah. So if you go, if you start running back, running back with a late pick, so this is the 11th pick Genthe and Derek Henry. Based on let's just say Jamie's rankings, you could

be looking at maybe Tyree Kill Falls, but probably not. You could be looking at Rashira Iscariot Wilson, Terry McLaurin, Cortland Sutton, Marvin Harrison, Mike Evans. If you love two of those players, then go ahead, start running back running back. Okay, Drake London was the next pick. He goes ahead of AJ Brown. Brock Bowers is off the board to the Pooka Nikua manager. So it's Nikua and Bowers for Joey Wright and we can unpause the draft. McCaffrey Brian Thomas for team 12. Gentie Derek Henry for team 11. Nico Collins, Drake London for team 10. Pooka Nikua, Brock Bowers for team nine. And we're up to team eight here in the second round. Amanra St. Brown in round one and Devon Achan.

Ooh yeah, that's my favorite team so far guys. Achan. That was a pretty solid one. I was wondering when Achan would go. Just to my favor, remind me after the show to tell Jake Sealy to put Joey Wright in the nine spot for our flex draft so I know exactly what he's gonna do.

Puka and Bowers is pretty good. You like the Bowers pick over H-Han though, over AJ Brown? Who just won? I don't, I mean, I have McBride as my number one tight end. So I don't think they should go ahead of Brown or H-Han. So it was a little too soon, but look, if you have a conviction on one of the two tight ends

and want to make sure you get your favorite of the two, then you obviously have to do it a little bit earlier in the, in, in round two. I'm a little scared by that pick as well this year with Bowers. Just trust the talent for sure. That's obvious, but the, you know, there was a lot made about the Raiders offensive scheme last year and it's completely gone now. And while I don't think it was the best scheme in the NFL, I think it was designed around

Brock Bowers more than I've seen any scheme designed around a tight end in a long time. Is that going to be the case this year with the new scheme, a run first scheme, bringing in Ashton Gentry? Those are question new quarterback situation. Those are just question marks for me. And if he doesn't have that same target volume, I don't imagine him being worth a pick this early, taking him over some of these players that Jamie mentioned.

All right. So after Bowers, it was A-chan and A.J. Brown. Josh Allen comes off the board. That was an auto pick. One thing I want to point out though, is that this league only starts one quarterback, two running backs, two wide receivers, a flex and a tight end. It's not a three receiver league.

It's not a two flex league. So getting that tight end advantage, you know, to me, I always think the shallower the league, the more, for me, just again, I don't know if everybody agrees with this. Anybody who's is the more important tight end is in shallower leagues, deeper leagues, like super flex leagues for me, tight end, I value them less.

So, and so I have a question on that. We always always debate that Adam. I want to hear your take on this I've never really I've tried to think this through and I've so With regards to taking a tight end in a 10 team lead Let's say versus like a 14 and you're kind of saying it's better to take it's they're more valuable the top player of a position is more valuable ones the position is more valuable in a shorter league. But when you, I would almost feel like getting Bowers or getting these top players in a position, Josh Allen, is more important to a 14 team league

because you're gonna have 13 teams. So you're an other team. So you're gonna have a big gap between you and that 12th, 13th, 14th quarterback. It's tight end each way. So it's actually a different argument. Thomas, you wanna pause the draft real quick. We'll pause it in round three and catch everybody up on round two.

I'm not talking about league size. I'm talking about roster size. I am talking about the percentage of total points because most tight ends are valuable compared to the other tight ends and many of those other tight ends stink. But they're not as valuable as a guy like Devon Achan who averaged like 22 points per game last year when Tua was healthy. They're probably not going to be as valuable as AJ Brown. They're not going to score as many points. So when you have a team that has a super flex in particular, where those tight end points are a smaller percentage

of the overall points, that's when I start to devalue it because it's like, you've got to, I don't know, it's hard for me to put this into words sometimes, but that's the distinction I make. It's not about 10 team, 12 team, 14 team, it's about how many total points do we have on the team? Because the tight ends are mostly valuable

compared to the other tight ends that you're going up against on a weekly basis. They don't score as many points as the best wide receivers and running backs. All right, we got to take a break. And when we come back, we will tell you about the rest of round two and get into round three of this 12 team PPR league. We'll be right back. Now streaming everyone who comes into this clinic is a mystery. We don't know what we're looking for. Their bodies are the scene of the crime, their symptoms in history are clues. We saved her life. We're doctors and we're detectives. I kind of love it if I'm being honest. Solve the puzzle, save the patient. All episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus.

Welcome back. Okay, so let's talk about round two here. It's Brian Thomas Jr., Derek Henry, Drake London, Brock Bowers, Devon A. Chan, AJ Brown. Then Josh Allen came off the board. It was an autopick, but I don't think it's gonna be uncommon to see Josh Allen go in the middle of round two. Trey McBride, Bucky Irving, Lad McConkey, Josh Jacobs, and Jackson Smith and Jigba.

Jamie, I know we love Bucky Irving. Do we like him more than Josh Jacobs? He went two picks ahead of Jacobs. He went ahead of Jonathan Taylor, who was the first pick of round three. Chase Brown also went ahead of him. So that was RB12345678 was Bucky Irving ahead of Jacobs and Taylor. Thoughts? Head of Kyron Williams too. A couple guys that are definitely in the conversation. Look, if you're, if you have again conviction on one of these players, Bucky Irving was awesome last year and as we talked about, you know, the end of the season into the playoffs, his usage

compared to Rashad White's was dramatic, you know, and if that's going to be the case, my gosh, he could be an absolute monster. So there's a lot to love about his situation. But that being said, there's lots of love about Jacobs and what he showed. And again, do you fear Marshawn Lloyd at this point who did nothing? Emmanuel Wilson, who's, you know, in my opinion, just a guy and they moved on from AJ Dillon if you had any concern about him. So Jacob's is clearly locked in.

Kyron Williams, again, you can nitpick. Did he get significant competition in Dark West Hunter? Well, they drafted a guy last year that they barely used as well in Blake Horham. So Kyron seems locked in and it could be, you know, run him into the ground scenario of a guy that's looking for a contract and may not get one with this team. So I think all these guys are in a similar tier. For me, I would have gone Kyron and I would have probably gone both Jacobs and Chase Brown over Bucky Irving.

Okay. Taylor, Taylor Irving for you. Irving for me. Okay. Bucky Irving. you. Irving for me. Okay. Bucky Irving. Yeah, PPR. Bucky Irving in his last four games had 72 carries. Rashad White had 10.

That includes postseason, last four games including the postseason. All right, let's move on. So again, the end of round two was Josh Allen, Trey McBride, Bucky Irving. You can unpause the draft, Thomas, thank you. Lad McConkey, Josh Jacobs, and JSN. We go into round three, we get Jonathan Taylor. So the first pick for Husky Huskies, he has team one. If I say team

one, that means first overall pick, team two, second overall pick, whatever. Jamar Chase, Jackson Smith, and Jigba, Jonathan Taylor. Team two, Saquon Barkley, and Josh Jacobs. And then with the second pick of round three, Lamar Jackson. So Dan, we got a team that does not have a wide receiver yet and won't have one until the 47th pick at the earliest. Your thoughts on that? Barkley, Jacobs, Lamar. Again, I think you made a good case as to why this is possible in a league like this,

just because you only have to start two wide receivers. Though I view it again as a league where you have to start three wide receivers. I think you're probably losing long term if you try to fill your flex with anything but a wide receiver in a format like this. Maybe a little bit less so in two receivers have to start first three receivers, but it's proven over time that you're looking for that in full PPR leagues, you're looking for that flex to be filled by a wide receiver. So it's putting yourself in a difficult spot, but I don't hate it because I think Josh Jacobs is an excellent value at the end of round two.

And on the Lamar front, you're adding in, like you said, an explosive player to onesie position in a shorter league. So he's making more of a difference. I think you did a good job breaking that down. I wasn't really, you know, tracking before that. I think you kind of good job breaking that down. I wasn't really, you know, tracking before that. I think you kind of caught me up on that. So it's the it's not exactly a I might be wrong, you know. No, but it made sense what you were saying.

Like I never really thought of it from that point of view as far as the shorter league goes. So I almost feel like you're building a team of like you're in this style, like in a 10 team league, you're almost looking to build a team. This is 12, by the way, isn't it? 12 team, 12 team. Yeah, 12. In a 10, I would like a little bit more.

So maybe a little bit off there, but I don't know. I think I'm okay with this build here, but it's gonna be tough to come by receptions with Barkley and Jacobs there. Okay. I love team three. All right, team three. Let's take a look at team three.

Bijon Robinson, Lad McConkey, T Higgins. Yeah, would you have taken Chase Brown instead of T Higgins? No. Or Kyron Williams instead of T Higgins? No. I think I, is it crazy to like T Higgins more than McConkey? No, I like him more than McConkey. I do too. Yeah. I think I would like this team a little bit better if it were Bijan, T Higgins, Chase Brown or Kyron Williams. But he didn't have that option because he took McConkey first.

I know what my favorite team is going to be already. Let's get let's do round three. It's still in round three. Jonathan Taylor, Lamar Jackson, T Higgins, Garrett Wilson, fourth pick of round three. Too early? Maybe a little bit. You know, again, when you start to get to this group of wide receivers, you know, we've talked about this a lot.

Once you get past, you know, wide receiver 12, 13, you know, like it's a jumbled group. So Wilson, Adams, Rice, Harrison, Tyreek, I know you like him the best of the group, which is fine based on his potential upside. Like they're all in this range. All right. So Wilson goes 3.4 Chase Brown, Devante Adams, Rashid, which the Adams team or the Chase Browns, the lamb team, CD lamb, Tray McBride. Yeah, I do love this team. CD lamb, Tray McBride, Chase Brown for team five.

CD Lamb, Trey McBride, Chase Brown for team five. Team 11 all day. Team 11 nailed it. Yes. Devonte Adams, Rashi Rice. So we got a three receiver team. We got neighbors, AJ Brown, Rashi Rice. Okay. And remember only only starting two receivers and a flex. Next pick is Marvin Harrison. Kyron Williams really falling. Wow. To Joey who has Pukinakua, Brock Bowers and Kiron Williams. That was at 3.9, Kiron Williams. Next pick is Jaden Daniels. Now that team has Nico Collins, Drake London and Jane Daniels. Jaden Daniels is the 34th overall

pick and he is the third quarterback off the board. Allen mid-round two, Lamar Jackson 26th overall, Jayden Daniels 34th overall. And then, so team 11 was when we highlighted Gentie and Derrick Henry in a 12-team PPR league. What are they gonna do at receiver? Tyreek Hill fell at 3-11. That's my favorite team so far. And then, spoiler alert, three picks later,

they took Terry McLoran. Great start. Picked 12 in round three. The last pick of round three was James Cook and then George Kittle. So the first team with four players is team 12 with McCaffrey, Brian Thomas, James Cook and George Kittle. I'd go to war with that team. Gentie, Derek Henry, Tyree Kill, Terry McLaurin for team 11. What'd you say? George Kittle's start of round four is a tough sell for me. Gentie, Derek Henry, Tyree Kill, Terry McLaurin for team 11.

What'd you say? George Kittle started round four as a tough sell for me. Yeah. His age, his injury history, the limited. I mean, he could easily be tied in one though. Of course. I just don't, I think there's a little bit too much risk there. Yeah.

You know, I said that he's, I think I said he, George Kittle's always heard or something like that on a previous podcast. We have an Apple podcast comment that called me out on that. He's not really always heard. I mean, in the last four years, he's played 14, 15, 16, and 15 games. I don't know if any of those games, any of those seasons include a week 18 where he sat.

There has to be some games he played heard though in that mix. Probably. He's not like, he played eight games in week in 2020. Other than that, he's played at least 14 games every year. So, okay, I probably missed two games. We'll say that. The thing about it is,

there always are a lot of spike games for him, right? Where he has a big game, two touchdown game, three touchdown game. We've seen that from him. There's such an open canvas for him this season with Deebo gone and Ayuk out and where, yeah, Jennings this and Pierce all that and maybe Ayuk comes back. Like he's so tried and true that and it's not like we're talking about him coming off a bad season. He's coming off. Yeah. Right. He was the number one tight end. Yeah. So it's not like we're talking about him coming off a bad season. He's coming off. Yeah. Right. He was the number one tight end per game.

Yeah. So it's not like we're talking about he's coming off a disappointing season and he's got to prove something to us. So like I'm fine with him even in round three. You know, just looking at the potential of what he could be this year. Granted, it could be a totally new offense. That's wrong to say. It could be a totally new offense. That's wrong to say. It could be a totally new Shanahan, a version of Shanahan's offense because so many different

moving parts in terms of personnel, but that guy's not a moving part. He's locked into what he does. You could Azerstat this, confirm it another day, but I believe my bet would be he has scored the most points per game with Brock Purdy versus any quarterback in his career Would be my guess. Yeah, that could be okay. That's the best quarter. I can say the best report with okay So kiddle goes with the first pick of round four then Terry McLaurin Ken Walker Beach, let's see if where Joe Mixon goes because he's still on the board Yep, I would have taken him at this at this point before the chubb sign. I'm very scared of Joe Mixon this year Oh, yeah, you don taken him at this point before the Chubb signing. Very scared of Joe Mixon this year.

Oh yeah, you don't like the Chubb signing? I just think you look back at his whole season, Joe Mixon, he had the four, I think this was a fantasy points data status, or no, established a run. He had the fourth most opportunities when healthy last year. That often, you know, he was a volume based fantasy play. Is the volume gonna drop off at all with Nick Chubb? Cause if it does, you know, he was a volume based fantasy play is, is the volume going

to drop off at all with Nick Chubb? Because if it does, then what is he? Is he going to lose some of the red zone touches? Then what is he for fantasy at that point? So it's just a matter of if he's in any kind of time share at all, I don't, I think you're just you're losing that he's just nowhere near worth this price point. Yeah. Um, Kittle, McLaurin, Ken Walker, Mike Evans.

I think the argument against that would be Mixon was what, like RB8 last year per game, something like that. And you're talking about him going probably, he's RB10 in PPR, RB9 and half and none. Probably as like RB17 ish or something like that. I don't want to take a quick count. Tell me how many are off the board. Um, he could still lose value and still be like, you or something like that. I don't want to take a quick count. Tell me how many are off the board. He could still lose value and still be like, you know, or before he gets to lose touches and be RB 14

or something like that. But I understand what you're saying. If he keeps the red zone work, it kind of just depends on Chubb because Chubb was really bad last year. I think he was like 3.3 yards for Carrie. Bottom barrel when it came to yards after contact per attempt and forced misstackle,

dead last yards after the contact. Third worst third worst, uh, forced miss tackle rate in the NFL. If that's the version of Chubb, then yeah, mixing is a great value. I just think we'll get a better version of Chubb. Well, he's still on the board. All right. So good running backs here in round four. Um, Kittle, McLaurin, Ken Walker, Mike Evans, Breece Hall, Jalen Hurts, our fourth quarterback off the board, Chuba Hubbard, Joe Burrow. So that is five quarterbacks now, and we are just past the midway point of round four. Oh, Marion Hampton, he's off the board

before Joe Mixon and Alvin Kamara. Jamie, what do you think of Marion Hampton? I think it's too soon, but if you have again, I'll keep using this word conviction that he's going to be the best running back for the Chargers and completely distance himself from where Najee Harris could be, then you draft him here. I gotta say, so this is team four. Justin Jefferson, Bucky Irving, Garrett Wilson, Omarion Hampton. I think this is my least favorite team.

I'm not a big fan. About outside though. Team three. Yeah, I could see this team being great. Team four, team four. No, I know, I'm not a huge fan of team three. I don't love the DJ Moore pick they just made. But team four, but, um,

team four, Jefferson Irving, Garrett Wilson, Omari and Hampton. I can see it being great. I really, I can't say you're doing a bad job. There's also more risk in on that team than I think any team by far. Right. Jefferson with a new quarterback that we could, but we're not totally sure of. We said that last year about Jefferson, but I think Darnold has a higher ceiling personally than McCarthy as a passer by a lot. And then we have Jefferson, I'm sorry, Kare Wilson as a passer.

Jefferson was wide receiver. McCarthy is an athlete. We'll see what happens with him as a passer. He did not look great in my opinion, evaluating him coming out of Michigan as a passer. Jefferson was wide receiver six last season per game. He only had a- And Darnold was pretty damn good.

Yeah, right. And they threw like 35 touchdowns last year and he only had 153 targets in 17 games, which is great. But we're used to seeing him have like 180, 190 kind of target pace. Those days are over with Addison. Maybe with Addison and Hawkinson, maybe we'll see. But it's possible.

All right, so after Hampton, we get DJ Moore. We got a little wide receiver run here. DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf. So that is the end of round four. The last six picks of round four were Hubbard, Burrow, Hampton, DJ Moore, Sutton, Metcalf. Sam Laporta is picked 49. He is the first pick of round five.

Thomas, go ahead whenever you want to continue the draft, feel free. Devante Smith is the second pick of round five and we are on the clock with the third pick here. All right. I don't know how you guys feel about this team. I said I didn't love it. So it's this is team three, Bijon Robinson, McConkey Higgins, DJ Moore, David Montgomery. You like this team? Yeah. Yeah, you liked it, yeah. Okay. I don't love the Moore Montgomery picks per se, because I think there were some other players

on the board that I would have taken. Right. I love the build. Like Joe Mixon and Alvin Kamara just went after Montgomery. Yeah, I mean, but again, this is now the tier of these guys that you're talking about. So you know, if you wanted to gamble on Kamara and the receptions, awesome. You wanted to gamble on Mixon, you know, not worry about Nick Chubb, then great. But there's a tier running back. So we're in it's also the Trevion Henderson RJ Harvey tier too. And David Montgomery was in full PPR the number 11 running back per game in his first 14 games. He's solid there's nothing wrong with him. Yes just ahead of

Nixon and Camara is surprising. Right and a little little worried that he's still too touchdown dependent. I know he was doing a better job catching the ball than Gibbs last year when they were healthy but I don't buy that fully. All right, so let's take a look at round five, Sam Laporta. You know what, let's take a look at a commercial break. And we'll wait, we'll wait a second. We're going late, late commercial breaks today. Sam, the receiver that hasn't been drafted that is the one that he went.

Oh, Xavier worthy. Okay. Yeah, I'm having trouble like thinking about who's available. I don't have a queue in front of me or rankings or anything, but I Laporta, Devante Smith. Then we get three straight running backs in round five to David Montgomery, Joe Mixon, Alvin Camara. We get Jameson Williams, RJ Harvey, Zay Flowers, Jaylen Waddle, Xavier Worthy, Patrick Mahomes, QB six. And we are waiting for the last pick of round five.

Jamie, are there any picks in round five that stand out from a good or bad perspective? Laporta, Devontae Smith, David Montgomery, Mixon, Kamara, Jamison Williams, RJ Harvey, Flowers, Waddell, Worthy, Mahomes. That I didn't like or liked? Either way, like really good or really bad didn't like laporta there Did not like the Smith Williams flowers wattle selections overworthy and so like they're fine. They're just not my favorites You so he was Laporta was the first pick of round five. Where are you comfortable taking the porta? Oh

I mean I said this when we were talking about like round six for me is the time I start to look for him. I'm concerned. I mean, look, he got off to a slow start last year. He still touched on dependent. We have a coordinator change. I don't think golf's going to throw for as many touchdowns. You know, it's there's I think a pretty big teardrop after the first three tight ends

and the Porter's my my 10 and four, but like should go probably two rounds later if not more. We've had a lot of 28 receivers off the board through five rounds. I love team 10 by the way. All right let's take a quick look at team 10 and then we'll take a break. Thomas if you want to pause the draft. It's Nico Collins. Okay just one more time. This is a, a two wide receiver league, full PPR, Nico Collins, Drake London, Jayden Daniels in round three, Ken Walker in round four, Xavier worthy in round five. Yeah. I think it's great. My only question is, you know, you would have taken either a Chan or AJ Brown over Drake London in round two, right? Yeah, again, you know, don't necessarily, you know, love all the picks in the order that he's made them

or the managers made them. But I think the build is fantastic. You know, I personally would not have probably taken a quarterback in round three, but the way, again, you know, when you look back on it, it's working out perfectly fine and has a chance now to get a very solid number two running back in my opinion,

with a lot of upside in Henderson if he wants to. Oh yeah, actually Thomas, why don't we do that? Why don't we unpause the draft and let Elijah, who has again, Nico, London, Daniels, Ken Walker, Xavier Worthy, let's see who he picks in round six. The last three picks to end round five and begin round six were Pickens, Godwin, and Travis Hunter. Dan, I love that

Travis Hunter value there. Me too. And the Chris Godwin. I mean, Chris Godwin was the number three receiver in fantasy last year before he got hurt. So first pick of round six seems like a good time to take a chance. All right. So let's see. Yeah. I mean, Henderson, you got, you got some rookies still left on the board. Are there any other veterans? James Connor is available here. Could go that route. So this is a team that has one running back so far does not have a tight end. It's three receivers and a quarterback. Oh, Pacheco. All right. All right. I'm curious to see if any of the like starting running backs like Connor Judkins just went

Caleb Johnson makes it back. I doubt it to the 10th pick of round seven where Elijah just picked Pacheco. Let's see. Like maybe Pacheco may have made it back to that point. Anyway, we're going to take a break and come back and wrap up the rest of this draft. We'll be right back on FFT. I was trying to make a point there about that Pacheco pick three picks into round six for a guy who just took his second running back is Ken Walker around for a Pacheco around six. So the next two picks were Judkins and Connor and that's where we're at. So right now we're in the middle of round six. So this

manager Elijah has the 10th pick of round seven. And if you're sitting there like, Judkins is not gonna make it back to you there. Connor's not gonna make it back to you there. Trevion Henderson, who's still on the board, is not gonna make it back to you there. It's possible that Isaiah Pacheco could, just based on ADP.

ADP says he would make it back to you with the 10th pick of round seven. Aaron Jones maybe makes it back there. So it's just something to think about. We'll see how this plays out. Trevion Henderson is the next pick. So that's a run of four straight running backs. Dan, I don't think I don't know if you've given your thoughts on Pacheco.

He was a second round pick last year, maybe early third. What do you think about him in the sixth round? I find it really difficult to rank this year. I was looking just thinking about what he offers. He's going to be more of the player he was before the injury, which is big because he was an explosive threat for the Chiefs. And that was a big reason why he earned the role he did two years ago. But I just and we've talked about this on the show before. I just don't think cream hunt goes away. I know there's always talk on the show like cream hunt is who you're bringing up somebody who looked like he did aesthetically to us when we watched him.

It doesn't really matter if he was the same explosive hunt. He was the chiefs trusted him in the role that they used him in. And that was a big role. I don't really see any real reason why that role will significantly drop off this year and that role had a lot of play in the red zone. That's what scares me too. So the upside with Pacheco becomes this big play threat. Maybe someone who can carve out more role

in the passing game, though I don't really see that happening if Rishi Rice is on the field and Xavier Worthy and Marquise Brown. So I just don't know where the upside is with Pacheco unless of course he does take that role back. All right, so after Godwin and Travis Hunter, we have Pacheco, Judkins, Connor, Henderson, four running backs in a row in round six.

Connor, it's a great value that way. Travis Kelsey is the fourth, fifth tight end, pardon me, fifth tight end off the board and he goes in the middle of round six. Too early, Jamie, for Kelsey? Yes. Who's your tight end five? Nijoko. Jordan Addison, Ted Oroa McMillan, Baker Mayfield. That's QB7. Jerry Judy and Tony Pollard. So this team, that's the end of round six, around six, yeah. So this team, team two,

Darth Twerk, in a full PPR league, we talked about it, they didn't, with their first three picks, Barkley, Jacobs, Lamar, Jax. So how'd they do at wide receiver? Cortland, Sutton, Devante, Smith, Jerry, Judy. Those were their next three picks.

How do you feel about it? Did they pull it off? I like the Sutton pick. I don't like the Smith pick. I love the Judy pick. So if that had been worthy there and it was Sutton worthy Judy, I would have liked it a lot better.

Okay. I think it's gonna be a struggle all year at receiver for this team to be honest. There's not a lot of consistency there. Even Devontae Smith, who I do like probably a little bit more than Jamie, very inconsistent fantasy player. Sutton, I guess, provides some level consistency,

but not compared to the rest of the top end wide receiver ones he's gonna be going against each week. So I really agree with you. When you go about the build and how they started, so if you're gonna commit to two running backs with your first picks, and then go quarterback. So again, you're passing up like if that was Barkley Jacobs Higgins, my gosh, like could be studly, right? Not that Lamar

Jackson's bad player, obviously, but if you go receiver there and you're solidifying that spot a little bit more. But I think what you're looking for is, you know, the high upside plays and so sudden, you know, assuming everything is sort of status quo, he's going to be 8 to 10 touchdowns, he's going to be around 1,000 yards receiving, he's going to probably be 75 catch. So a solid start there. And then Smith, wild card. You know what you're getting if everybody's healthy. If Brown or Goddard misses time, he could be a top 10 wide receiver.

And Judy showed us huge upside as well. So I don't mind the swings, in terms of what the start was, but you gotta make sure A, Barclay and Jacobs are doing what they did a year ago. If not, I don't think better, but doing what they did a year ago. And Lamar is still Lamar because you're taking a huge hit

at that position where you're, in this case, hoping to start three of those guys. Tony Pollard was the last pick of round six, and he played nine games with Tajay Spears playing a normal snap share and was only on pace for 236 carries in those nine games. I always do point that out. It was not an even split by any means, but Pollard really erupted when Spears either left the game early with an injury or missed time. In those games, he was on pace for 328 carries. when Spears either left the game early with an injury or missed time in that in those

games he was on pace for 328 carries. So there anything wrong with going back to back Titans picks? Yeah, Paul. Yeah, that's another risk. I think they Pollard and then Calvin Ridley at the six seven turns. So we're into round seven. We get TJ Hawkinson and Johnny Smith. That is seven tight ends off the board.

And David Njoku is not one of them. Romo Dunze, Chris Olave. All right. So here's remember that guy who picked Pacheco. Here's three running backs that went off the board just before his seventh pick. Aaron Jones, Deandre Swift, Caleb Johnson. Who's the next running back? I don't have rankings or like we don't have a starting running back like maybe Tyrone Tracy. We don't have- Brian Robinson or Tracy. Yeah, probably one of those two. So I think taking Pacheco there, he may have made it back to you, but I can't say it's a bad pick. I mean, you could quibble about the order, but Aaron Jones, Deandre Swift, Caleb Johnson,

they're all off the board. Bo Nix was drafted as QB8. And then, all right, all right. We get, look at this round of wide receivers, right? We get Ridley, Odunze, Olave, Khalil Shakir, Jacoby Myers, Shakir going with the 10th pick, Myers the 11th pick of round seven. We are waiting for the 12th pick here. When you see these wide receivers,

this group, Dan and Cooper Cup just went. When you see these wide receivers, this group, Dan, and Cooper Cup just went. So it's six wide receivers in this round. Ridley, Odunze, Olave, Shakir, Myers, Cup. What does this mean to you in the grand scheme of things and how we're drafting? We're at that edge right here. I mean, it seems to be that fall off point where you have to plant your flag on some of these players. And there are some players I would plant my flag on the ones you just mentioned.

Romo Dunze, almost no receiver last year had worst quarterback play for his specific targets than Romo Dunze. That should improve in that system. He should be improved as well. I loved him as a prospect. I like to speak a lot. Calvin Ridley, I feel like is a steal at this part of this draft already building a nice report with cam report, uh, cam ward and camp. I feel like he's going to be the only guy you're going

to get in this range with the chance for 125 130 plus targets. And so it's pick your poison because there's guys in here that I don't see the value on as well. Some of the guys you mentioned Jacobi Myers, not a big fan of him at his cost. So it just comes down to who you like at this point with that position, but it's a good indicator that you probably shouldn't be leaving your drafts without receivers in your first three rounds. This is something Jamie's talked about.

I think you said, Jamie, ideally for you, you would like to leave the draft with two receivers in your first three picks. Is that correct? Did you say that? Yeah, and again, it depends on where you pick. So know. So, as you see sort of with this draft, if you're early in round one, I think you're looking for receivers probably, I guess, depends on what you do in the first round. But you know, you see guys like McConkey

and Higgins and, you know, JSN, those guys, you know, you're getting them in some cases in round three. In the back end of round one, you can easily go receiver, receiver to start your team. But it's, you get, just look at the running backs by comparison to the round you just read off. You had Swift, Caleb Johnson, Aaron Jones. That's how I would rank them. Like those, those are pretty great values. Yeah.

And I think with that, with those picks of Joe, it went in this order, Jones, Swift, Caleb Johnson, Jamie ranks it Swift Caleb Johnson Aaron Jones. Now we might it might be a little while before we get running back right we've got seven picks off the board no more running backs because as Jamie mentioned Tyrone Tracy Brian Robinson I think Jalen Warren's probably in this range in the rankings. It's not as appealing so we get get Shakir, Jacoby Myers, and Cooper Cup to end round seven. Debo Samuel, Brandon Iyuk, friends forever, teammates no more.

David Najoku. So we team 10 is a team that we liked a lot with Nico, Drake London, Jayden Daniels, Ken Walker, Xavier Worthy, Isaiah Pacheco, Khalil Shakir, and then gets Jamie's fifth tight end, David Njoku, in the eighth round as I think the eighth tight end off the board. Look at this 49ers or former 49ers run. Debo Samuel, Brandon Ayyuk, David Njoku, Jawad Jennings. Those are the first four picks of the round. Stefan Diggs, and if you all remember,

we talked about best mid-round picks a few like last week or a couple weeks ago. The Lions were a team that over the last three years have produced great mid round picks, mid round values and late round values. The 49ers are a team that always do it. So taking Joanne Jennings here, I don't know about IU, taking Joanne Jennings here. That's not a bad idea. We get two commanders in this range. We get Debo Samuel and Brian Robinson just went. Stefan Diggs just went before Robinson. I've gone a little out of order.

So let me slow myself down and read round eight. Here we go. Debo, IUK, Njoku, Jennings, Diggs, Brian Robinson, Tyrone Tracy, Jalen Warren. Dan, give me a, you wrote the outlooks for the NFC East. So who do you like better, Brian Robinson or Tyrone Tracy? It's Tracy by far for me. You asked that question?

No, he's a scatabooser. He likes scataboo. It's not just cause he's a giant. I mean, we went over this on the NFC East outlook episode. Brian Robinson was bought outside the top 45 in targets per game and a full PPR format. He's just not getting the football as a receiver. I don't know.

And then it's just like, is he going to score touch-downs for you? That's going to define his week in this format. I wouldn't use picks on players like that in this range of the draft in this format. Tracy at least has some. In this range of the draft in this format. Tracy at least has some. In this range of the draft doesn't seem too late, like round eight? Again, it goes back to the whole Samir White debate we had last year. I just don't value

these types of players in fantasy, specifically in PPR leagues. They're very touchy and independent. And I love Team 7. Love Team 7. You love the team that drafted Brian Robinson? Yes. I mean, forget about, again, the player, but like that build is, love the team that drafted Brian Robinson. Yes. I mean, forget about again, the player but like that build is and the way that it worked out to get Swift and Robinson again, whatever you think of Robin and that's his fourth running back. All right. Well, time out. Let's talk about 11. That's my build. Let's talk about team seven. So Jamie loves team seven. Don't hurts me is his team name and he went out and drafted Jalen hurt. So good for you. Malik neighbors, AJ Brown, Rashi Rice, Jalen Hurts, and then four straight running backs, RJ Harvey, Trevion

Henderson. And I think from our standpoint, if you're going to go like almost zero RB and wait until round five to get a running back and you end up with RJ Harvey and Trevion Henderson, we are going to love that in a 12-team league. And then Deandre Swift. Yeah. Terrific. So then he took Brian Robinson. Did he have to take Robinson there or should he have gone with a tight end? Like Mark Andrews went. I mean, could have, sure. If you don't love that, but look, there's clearly some uncertainty with the first two guys. I mean, not the first four guys that he drafted, you know, Harvey could get J.K. Dobbins and, you know, potentially be ruined. Henderson's still going to share with Romandre Stevenson.

And by the way, there, if you think the Patriots going to win more games, the splits between Romandre and wins and losses were dramatic. So Stevenson may still have a pretty big role, especially if they're leaning on him as a workhorse or, you know ball a workhorse from a carry standpoint um swifts you know just go listen to anything he says about deandre swift and what he could be for the chicago bears you know so there's there's ups and downs for for both for all four of those guys as dan just alluded to with robinson but i mean if his three receivers stay healthy find a better receiving trio in this league if his three receivers stay healthy, find a better receiving trio in this league.

No, it doesn't exist. Right. Yeah. And a top five quarterback. Maybe Nico London and Xavier worthy if everything breaks right, but. Yeah, but that's a bigger ask. Well, I mean, look, he better have the best receivers. He took three with his,

he was the only team that took three with his first three picks. Yeah, but there's a reason why. I think it's a great team. I guess if I'm just throwing my two cents in, I would have taken Ricky Pierce all over Brian Robinson Jr. Yeah, fine. I think you have more upside there.

And I don't think that if you took three receivers with your first three picks, we know how fantasy football works, especially with Rashid Rice coming out from an injury. I think there's a chance, there's a decent chance that one of those three picks is going to be a bust. Don't just sit there and go, okay, I'm done at receiver. Yeah,, yeah, I think if you're if you're playing this out right now and how the next round is unfolding, if he would have taken or manager would have taken Pierce all there or wherever your favorite fourth receiver is, and we see both Packers guys go next, in terms of Jayden Reed and Matthew Golden. So all three suitable, you know, high upside

type of players that could be fantastic. Then this round is a good time to maybe handcuff whoever you take with the other that like the guys that come to mind to me like this is a good spot for a Monday Stevenson. Okay, got the Patriots back to lock up. Don't have to worry about whoever the guy is there. You have potentially JK Dobbins if he signs with the Broncos could have taken him there. So instead of Robinson, at least you're locking up a backfill. That's not a bad strategy for

me. All right. So after Brian Robinson, at least you're locking up a backfill. That's not a bad strategy for me. All right, so after Brian Robinson, Tyrone Tracy went in the middle of round eight. Is that eight or seven? Eight, sorry. We got Jaylen Warren, we got Mark Andrews, Ricky Pearsall, Jaden Reed, Kyler Murray. Onto round nine, Najee Harris, Travis Etienne, Cam Scadaboo,

Matthew Golden, Josh Downs, Darnell Mooney. I don't really know that I have super strong feelings on any of these picks. Scadaboo going, what, eight or nine picks after Tyrone Tracy is kind of interesting. I think I would I would say downs to me stands out the most downs with a full season and I don't know we'll see what happens with Anthony Richardson injury of Jones could be like 125 135 target type player or more just look at what Wanda Robinson did from a target standpoint with Jones just

constant check down just constant take the easy solution. And Downs is going to be that easy solution for the Colts. That's a pretty good point. For full PPR too. I didn't remember that. Geez. 12, 4, 8, 14, 9, 11, 9, 5, 4, 8. Those are Wondell Robinson's targets with Daniel Jones last year. It's crazy. My goodness.

And Malik neighbors played about half those games. Okay. So Najee Harris, Travis Etienne, Kam Skatibou, Matthew Golden, Josh Downs, Darnell Mooney, Tyler Warren, Evan Ingram, back to back picks. Jamie, the last three tight ends off the border, Andrews, Warren, Ingram. How do you rank them? Right now it are Andrews, Warren, Ingram. How do you rank them?

Right now it's Andrews, Ingram, Warren. I'm torn between Ingram and Andrews in this format. I do think Andrews will get more targets. How much more we'll see. You know, it's hard to buy into Andrews after what we saw last year with the targets going away, becoming so touchdown dependent. And then you're hearing Harbaugh say that they want Isaiah likely to be an all-pro. You know, so where does the disconnect come in with Mark Andrews who they seem so reluctant

to trade whether they got any offers or not. But he still historically has been such a big factor for Lamar Jackson in all facets of the game. Last year again just sort of morphed into more of a red zone role. For Ingram, look, the history of Sean Payton with his tight ends is so all over the map because when he's had an elite level talent in Jimmy Graham, he used him. When he had a good pass catching tight end Jeremy Chocky, he used him. Is Evan Ingram closer to Chocky? I would say it's probably fair. Is he closer to Jimmy Graham? I don't

think that's a fair comp. Is he better than, you know, Joanne Johnson and Adam Troutman and the guys that he's had the last two years in Denver? By far. So with the way Bo Nix plays and how he, you know, is going to probably lean on him, I would guess as the second option in the passing game, there's a lot to like about Evan Ingram, especially in this format.

I agree with all that. I think when you get to this point in the draft in fantasy football, it's a lot about opportunity. Sorry, go ahead. No, I just, you agreed with everything. That was a great take on Ingram, honestly. Yeah, it was an amazing take. It was.

And I'm gonna potentially move Ingram up the board because of it. With that said, when you get to this stage of the draft, to me, it's all about opportunity cost in fantasy football. The opportunity cost of losing out on one of these receivers or running backs is very, very low at this point. But this was the range we found Brock Bowers in last year. So player like Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland

in this range, I think are slam dunk, the best pick in this, some of the best picks you can make in this draft because you're trying to win your fantasy league. And those are two of the guys that actually give you a chance to do it like Bowers did last year. So you'll see me with a ton of Warren and a ton of Loveland in the drafts we do this summer, because when I get to this range of the guys that actually give you a chance to do it like Bowers did last year. So you'll see me with a ton of Warren and a ton of Loveland in the drafts we do this summer because when I get to this range of the draft, that's what I'm looking for. Somebody who can potentially break my league open and potentially win me my league like

Bowers did for the teams where I got him last year. I'm not scared to miss out on these backs and receivers. So I agree with what you said about Loveland. I hate the Loveland pick for that team though because You have two running backs on this roster You've now taken a second tight end on this roster after going David Najok with around before And then you look at the next pick and everything you said about league winning type potential like to me This is on that team in particular

I'm taking and I don't know if you want to take Charbonne just to lock up the Seahawks backfield, but I'm looking at like Jordan Mason. I'm looking at Isaac Garendo. Like you've already taken your tight end. Yes. Loveland can completely shatter what his expectations are and be the next Brock Bowers. I don't have those expectations for him, but he, you know know based on his draft pedigree But looking at this roster build like you've got three awesome receivers. You got one of the best quarterbacks You've already taken a guy in the joku who whether you think he's top five like I do or you think he's top ten Like you're probably not benching him unless things go completely awful or love ones better But like you could have taken one of these lottery ticket running backs here to fortify that position and the depth on your team

and you don't need like you're never going to start Loveland if the Joker's doing what he's capable of doing. Let me ask you guys if he will though if he breaks out though. It's like he got to add a similar situation. Yeah but I think just looking at like these running backs that are still available for your build like right the second tight end doesn't make sense to me when you have the running backs that you could still use to help. Yeah. All right. So, so let me ask you a question here.

I'm pausing the draft. So catch up round nine, Najee, ETN, Scadaboo, Matthew Golden, Josh Downs, Darnell Mooney, Tyler Warren, Evan Ingram, Javante Williams, Colston Loveland, Zach Charbonneau and Dalton Kincaid. We have four tight ends here. Now we're talking about team 10 who has Jayden Daniels, Ken Walker and Isaiah Pacheco, Nico Collins, Drake London, Xavier Worthy at Flex, David Njoku at tight end. It's just a terrific team.

Khalil Shakir on the bench. And then this team took Colston Loveland. And that's what Jamie's saying. Like, why are you taking Colston Loveland when you have David Njoku? And you only have two running backs. So if you're, if you are on the clock and you only have two running backs,

Ken Walker and Isaiah Pacheco, and you're in round nine. Now, Javante Williams just went with the pick before you. So I don't know that there's a chance of you're getting the starting running back for any NFL team at this point. But like, what do you do? So you have Walker and Pacheco. Do you take Zach Charbonnet as your third running back?

Or do you take Tajay Spears and get a player from a different team that's a high upside handcuff? You know, I think it's easier to take Charbonnet if he's your fourth running back's a high upside handcuff. You know, it's, it's, I think it's easier to take Charbonne if he's your fourth running back and you want to handcuff Ken Walker as your third running back. What's your philosophy there, Jamie? You have Walker and Pacheco. Who do you take? And this ties in two philosophies because of where he's picking or where the manager is picking, excuse me. So you're looking at it. And when you get to this point in

the draft, I'm checking the two teams behind me and what they have. And they have the exact same running back depth chart. Both only have two running backs. So now I'm going to prioritize what do I think is the best for my team. And so in this range of guys, the two that went off the board, Charbonne and Spears, and then the next two, I don't know exactly how I have it ranked, are Isaac Arendo and Jordan Mason. So if I have a strong feeling on any of those guys, well the McCaffrey manager is after me. I probably would take Arendo and hope that one of those other guys comes back to me and that's the way I

would play it. So I would look at okay the Gentie manager, the Henry manager, they may be looking at running backs. The McCaffrey manager, the Cook manager, like to me I would say okay if I like if I'm worried about McCaffrey I don't know if he's gonna make it through a full season. Gurando could be a league winner. I'm taking Gurando. And then like you said, maybe Charbonneau comes back and that's the guy I would take.

Maybe it's Spears. The way that it played out, both Gurando and Jordan Mason are still available. So like if I would have taken Gurando instead of Loveland and came back and then it's Jordan Mason, like I love that. I absolutely love that. I just, I feel nervous not having three running backs

that I could start on any week, but look, that's how it works with this type of, if you are, I'm kind of risk averse just in life in general. Like, I'm the guy who, if they tell me that I have to catch at softball, I'm like, okay, where's the mask? And like no one else in the- Oh, how'd it go?

We split the double header and I got one hit and zero errors. So- Hey, there we go. Double, that's almost double. Yeah, that is double the hits you've had this season. Nice. I didn't have half of a hit.

You mean I've doubled it? Okay, yeah, now I'm up to two. Well, that's all right. But like, yeah, like team 12, team 12 has now made 10 picks and he has to hear she His name is Danny. So again to that end his His five wide receivers two tight ends

You just picked Jared Goff as his quarterback and two running backs Christian McCaffrey and James Cook I think it's overkill like you only have to start two wide receivers in this league You can only start three wide receivers at most Why do you have five wide receivers and two running backs and two tight ends? I don't mind that though. I do. If it would have been two running backs here. Okay. Yeah. Is a waste to me. Yeah. He picked Kincaid as his second tight end. He has Kittle and then he picked golf. Yeah. Love the upside of Kincaid, but don't need Kincaid. You don't need golf there either.

This would have been a Spears, Mason, definitely Gurando pick for me. All right, we can unpause the draft now as we are into round 10. I don't know that we're gonna get to all 13 rounds. I'll tell you at the end, I had one of the most difficult managerial decisions I had to make ever coaching a baseball team

and parents were not happy with me. Haha, let's hear it Oh, it was yeah big all-star game. Okay. Okay say that we'll save that for the end Jared Goff Taijay Spears Jordan Mason So that team that had Ken Walker and Pacheco did take Jordan Mason Justin Herbert Kian Coleman. Well, I like that pick me too a Mecca Ibuka and who I like that pick. Me too. Emeka Abouka. And we are on the clock waiting for team six. So we'll take a look at team six here. We haven't talked about team six.

Jameer Gibbs, Josh Allen, Devontae Adams, Chuba Hubbard, Jameson Williams, Travis Kelsey, Aaron Jones, Tyrone Tracy, Darnell Mooney. I do not like this team. I think this is my least favorite team. I'm sorry to team six. So it starts Josh Allen. This is the starting lineup.

Josh Allen, Jameer Gibbs, Chuba Hubbard, Devante Adams, Jamison Williams, Travis Kelsey, and then probably Aaron Jones at Flex with Tyrone Tracy and Darnel Mooney on the bench. Am I wrong here for not liking this team? No, I'm with you on this one. It's tough to like, I mean, the firepower, I guess comes with Gibbs.

He went quarterback super early, which is a tough build for me in any one quarterback league. So it's hard for me to come around. I think the thing that you're, this is one of those teams that like, could easily with the right one or two waiver wire moves be excellent if the top of the draft comes through as you expect. Every player is probably going to be where their ADP is.

Gabe's going to be middle around one, Alan's probably going to be around two ADP, Adam's almost certainly going to be around three ADP, Hubbard around 40. You're kind of just taking best player available in my opinion, you know how it's all sort of fallen. The Williams pick may have been a little bit too soon, but that's fine. And then it starts to get a little bit scary for me with Kelsey and Jones and Tracy just because there's, you know, age concerns and, you know, position concerns there. But I like the Mooney pick. And so it gives you a little bit more options that receivers just it doesn't feel like there's a number one receiver, which I always don't love. Yeah. Right. You know, Devontae Adams is your number one receiver. Jamison Williams in PPR, he had like, he was on pace for like 100 targets last year. So I know they keep talking him up,

but he's just not going to be a high catch guy. And then Kelsey in round six, I think basically, when you when you draft a team now listen, I'm sitting here telling you I don't like it, it just so happens that this team picks some players that I personally don't like. Doesn't mean I'm right. So everything taken with a grain of salt. But when you draft a team, if you go well, if everything goes right, this team's gonna be good. Like that's just kind of how I feel.

Like it's got a lot of downside. And if everybody hits their upside, then you did great. But there's too much risk. So try not to draft teams I think that have just too have just too much risk where you have to make the upside case for every player you draft basically. All right, sorry. Let's go. Let's tell you around 10. It was Jared golf, Tajay Spears, Jordan Mason, Justin Herbert, Keon Coleman, a Mecca a buka and then Jalen McMillan back to back bucks wide receivers there. Ramondre Stevenson, Caleb Williams, Tucker Kraft, second tight end for that team. Is there anything

that doesn't have a tight end? Yes. Team. So team 11 like drafted pretty well, but unfortunately a lot of teams doubled up on tight end. So that's gonna make it even harder for team 11 to get a tight end at once. Tucker Kraft, Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott. We had four quarterbacks come off the board in round 10. And you're still talking about Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott. Oh, five quarterbacks, I'm sorry. Goff, Herbert, Caleb, Purdy, Prescott.

If you like those names, you should wait at quarterback. Jayden Higgins, potential number two, three wide receiver for Houston. Now the rookie. I would say a mistake. You? I would rather have Kirk. But you know, again, the upside could favor Higgins is not a surprise wouldn't be a surprise. As it stands right now, Christian Kirk is looking like Dan to me, like great value because I keep seeing him going in a well after pick 100.

I like Kirk and it's specifically in a full PPR league. I'm with you on that full PPR still opportunity for him to be that. I don't want to say that the role that Dell filled, but just that interior in breaking route runner that gets open. And he was consistent with that when healthy in Jacksonville. So I like that. Right. 2022 and 2023 were really solid years for Christian Kirk, even when they brought in Calvin Ridley last year, his a dot was over 12 yards. Just a mistake. That's not how he should be used. Joey Wright says, stop talking about Kirk. It's got to be number one in his queue. All right. We had Higgins, Higgins, then Kyle Pitts, then Michael Pittman, Rashad White, Isaac Arendo, Dallas Goddard.

And then we're on the clock here with Don't Hurts Me, who has neighbors AJ Brown, Rashe Rice, Jalen Hurts, RJ Harvey, Trevion Henderson, DeAndre Swift, Brian Robinson, Tyler Warren, a Mecca Abouka. We like this team. It's a fun team. Tyler Warren at Titans, a little risky, obviously. Oh, there's Christian Kirk.

Sorry, Joey. All right, we will finish off this round and then we'll hear about Jamie being a terrible coach. No, no, no. Great coach. Not according to the parents. No, no, no. It worked out fantastic. They didn't understand the moves. This team, team eight is Amon Ra St. Brown, Devon Achan, Marvin Harrison, Brice Hall, Zay Flowers, James Connor. This is a team that took three receivers and two and three running backs with its first six picks. Then Bo Nix, Stefan Diggs, Evan Ingram, Keon Coleman, and Justin Fields to

back up Bo Nix. I mean, just absolutely. I don't love the Flowers pick. Not bad, but I just don't love the flowers pick not bad but I just don't love it like again I would have taken worthy like look at those next picks in order just crushed Connor, Nix, Diggs, Ingram, Coleman, Fields. Yeah it's very good very good. I love that yeah. I even think you know getting Bruce Hall in round four is is he's just an afterthought at this point it's crazy. No round four is, is he's just an afterthought at this point. It's crazy. No, around four, I think is where he should go. Yep. Right. But just, doesn't it feel like, I don't know, not, not that much has changed for Breeze Hall. It depends how much you buy into, Hey, they're going to use three running backs.

Which team uses three running backs? Well, it's not just that it's the Justin Fields factor. I mean, Fields is going to take away so much from him as a non-pass catcher and the rushing touchdowns. Like that to me is the worst part. Forget about what Aaron Glenn said. That's just one of those things like, hey, Kyron Williams is playing on punt returns. And what was the other one that was stupid last year?

Oh my God. The flip out on Twitter when Kyron Williams was returning putts. Or kickoffs, whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, whatever kickoff. There was another stupid one of somebody said something that that people freaked out about. I don't remember. Anyway, uh, he's, he's going to use multiple running backs. Yes. To what extent? Who knows? It's not going to be three unless somebody gets injured. I think the one thing about this is, is that Justin Fields could crush Brice Hall's upside. He could just be a trap. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's I mean, it's kind of like Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor, but not as productive of a rusher, I guess. Right. Justin Fields, Rashid Shahid, Trent, Trey Harris, Hollywood Brown and Jaden Blue. Wait a minute. There's a guy that hasn't gone yet. Trevor Lawrence and tank Bigsby just went. We're in round 12. Who? Well, that's you just name one of the teams. Dallas. No, Jacksonville.

Where's Tootin? He hasn't gone yet. Steal the draft. I mean, Bigsby just went ETN went around nine. Um, Bigs Bigsby around 12 tootin goes right there around 12. Okay, well, again, look who did it. Why the best drafter in the world? Yes.

All right. Uh, all right. That's it for today's show. You can follow the results at youtube.com slash fantasy football today. You can see the draft board as it unfolded. All right, Jamie. So, uh, what happened? So, uh, it's my 13 year olds, um, all star team.

Uh, we're representing the city of Boca Raton playing 14 districts. And the, uh, the way that it works is you have to manage the pitch counts. It's a tournament, double elimination. So if we won last night, we play Wednesday. If we lost last night, we would have played Thursday and then you're in the losers bracket which takes you into Friday and Saturday. So you really got to manage the pitching.

So our starting pitcher was absolutely dominant. His name is Joey Wagner. Congratulations Joey on an absolute strong performance. Four and two-thirds innings, 12 strikeouts, gave up two hits, one walk. They could not touch him. So, he gets to his 65th pitch. He had already given up his second hit and walked the batter. So, he has two runners on and he can go up to 95 pitches.

So, I go out to the mound and we're agonizing over this, me and the other two coaches. Like do we let him go to 95 and we win Wednesday, we go straight to the championship, he could pitch again Saturday. If I pull him at that point, then if we lose Wednesday, we play Friday, I could have him again for Friday, which would be the first game for us in the losers bracket. So I go out and I take him out with a four nothing lead. And I'm walking past, you know, back to the dugout and I hear the parents like, what are you doing?

Like he's got it, they can't touch him. Like just crazy. And our next act comes in, gets us out of the inning. And hear the parents like chirping from the sideline. Oh yeah, no, it's to the point where my wife is sitting in there and you know, this is a team that's been thrown together for the last, in the last month that she goes, you're getting a lot of hate over here. And so, um, next kid comes in, gets us out of

it, ends up, uh, we get another basis loaded situation, get into a base load situation. He gets us out of it, gives up a run, come back next inning, gets, uh, not that in the last inning, another base low situation another pitcher comes in cuz I got to keep this kid to 35 pitches or less because he's our starter on Wednesday and That kid gets us out of it. So we win the game for one So what the parents didn't understand was like again the pitch count situation, but they're like, you know You see this kid the way he's pitching like why would you give up the chance to have the win? and so that back and forth with the other coaches and

The best part of it for me was so the kid that came in second was the third basement. So I go out to the mound and this was like the first time, you know, cause I mean, I've coached my kids since they're, you know, four and five years old. First time, like having a legitimate mound conversation with the kid that's coming in next. I look him in the eye, two runners on. I said, can you get us out of this? It says very confidently.

Yes, coach. Ball is yours. That's awesome. And he did. And so it was, you know, and then you explain it to him after explaining to the parents after the game why I was, oh, okay, now I understand, you know, so like the, the kid's father, the Joey's father apparently said to in front of my wife, she goes, I'm sure Jamie has a plan. I don't know what it is. I'm sure he has a plan. All right, so he got the date. I think I would have left him in and just gone straight to the winner. Again, we agonized over it

because you don't want to think a losing mentality, right? You want to think you're going Wednesday, you're going to win and advance to Saturday. The last thing you want to do is not have this kid in a must-win situation and you lose, right? Because I didn't cut off his pitch count. We had a lead. If we were one nothing game, two, nothing game, there's no way I'm pulling them.

Yeah. I think with four runs, you made the right call. Four runs with a, with two and a, two and a third left to go. Yeah. I actually like that. I think they should be applauding you after the fact. Great job. Oh, they were very good.

All the hate you were getting in the chirping. If I'm sitting there and I don't know the rules, right. And you see this kid is like, he could have, he had seven more outs to go. Like he could have had 19 strikeouts. He was that dominant. Wow. You don't know the rules.

That's my scream impression. Randy from scream. Yeah. You remember the movie scream? Yeah. The original, but it was fun. Parents were great. You know, they very supportive and we appreciate fun. Parents were great. You know, they are very supportive and we appreciate it. That's great, man. Congratulations. Yeah, but that's the scene in the video. I remember the scream. Is it in the video stories going over the rules of horror movies?

This is like a hugely important scene here. You don't know the rules. And then he goes through all the people who can and can't be suspects because of this and that. Oh, geez. That's in Scream 1, right? Yeah. Iconic, iconic scene. And when does he die? In Scream 2? I'm pretty sure in Scream 2. Maybe three. I lose track. Okay. Thanks very much to our participants. Appreciate it. Thanks to Thomas for running that draft. Great stuff. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.

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