Fantasy Football Today - Live Mock Draft (Listeners Only)! (09/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 3, 2020

You've heard us draft and you know our tendencies, but let's see what happens when 12 listeners draft! We'll take you through the picks and see how each team unfolds so you can get ready for your upcoming drafts. We also start the show with the latest on the TB backfield and the Josh Gordon signing.  Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. They say if you want to have a good podcast, you should ruthlessly judge all of your listeners. So that's what we're going to do today. We have 12 listeners competing right now in a mock draft, and we're just going to sit there and observe.

And also, Ben Schrager is going to spread his wings today and analyze the draft along with Heath Cummings. Ben, great work on the draft-a-thon yesterday. You made the engine go. We appreciate it. Welcome to the show in the analyst chair. Heck yeah. No, great job last night. You, Adam, four hours of hosting. Couldn't pull off the Scott Hansen, though. You had to go to the bathroom at some point. Scott Hansen goes to the bathroom. I'm convinced. Nope. Not at all.

We are actually at pick six right now in this draft. I have a co-owner who did not show up, it seems, so it looks like I'm just going to make a draft pick here. But Heath, hello. How are you? Yeah, I'm here and excited about it. Okay, good.

Good. We're all a little exhausted. The picks are coming in and just going to go through the news here and excited about it. Okay, good, good. We're all a little exhausted. The picks are coming in and just going to go through the news and notes here. I'll give you the first five picks of the draft so far. It's Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Ezekiel Elliott, Dalvin Cook, and Alvin Kamara. I have the draft on pause. We'll resume it in just a minute. But this is a three-receiver league, PPR, and a flex. So actually, it's a two-receiver league, my bad. So two receivers

and a flex, and it's full PPR. We'll see how running back heavy people go at the back end of the first round. Heath, let's talk about Leonard Fournette real quick because since we did the emergency pod this morning, Dave and I, Bruce Arian spoke. He said Ronald Jones is still our guy. Obviously,

we can't take him at his word, but what did, what did you make of Bruce Arian's comments and where are you on the Bucks backfield right now? I take him at his word for week one. I would expect Ronald Jones is going to start against the saints. And I think it'd be really interesting after that, because he's probably not going to do very well against the saints because

they have a very good run defense. I am still in the camp that four net is is a high-end number three running back. I've got him at RB25 or 26, right in that range. And Ronald Jones is a borderline number three, high-end number four. We're doing a non-PPR mock draft right now. Dave Richard took Fournette with the fourth pick of the sixth round. And Fournette was my top running back in my rankings when he took him. So I think that was a fair place to do that.

Ronald Jones, has he been picked yet? Yeah, he went later in the eighth. So I think that's probably where you'll see those guys settle in. You can't start either Tampa Bay running back week one. Well, well, I mean, I might have to in our 14 team league. Everything changes in a 14 team league, I suppose. But that's Ronald Jones. And he like he's going to start.

Who knows what Fournette's role is? You know what? We'll see what the reports are leading up to week one. We don't have to make the decision right now. But it is a bad matchup. Arian said that they hope to have Fournette in a role week one. So I think best case scenario for Ronald Jones is that week one, he's doing what he did last year, and Leonard Fournette is Peyton Barber.

Yeah, which would mean goal line work. But we'll see how it plays out. Meanwhile, the Seahawks signed Josh Gordon. Give me your take on that, and then we'll look at some of these draft picks. Probably not going to draft Josh Gordon. Give me your take on that and then we'll look at some of these draft picks. Probably not going to draft Josh Gordon, but if you're in a 20-round draft or an 18-round draft, I could get it.

It gives me a little bit more concern for DK Metcalf, but I was never getting DK Metcalf, so I'm not that concerned. I'm more concerned for you. I don't know. Josh Gordon didn't do anything for them last year. He played five games. He had almost no role.

He's a deep guy. I was wondering, does it affect Tyler Lockett more than DK Metcalf since Gordon is a big play deep threat? Tyler Lockett runs the full route tree. Tyler Lockett plays in the slot. Tyler Lockett's targeted underneath and deep. I don't know. Okay.

I was just asking. I was just asking. And is Josh Gordon even reinstated yet? Not yet. Not yet. No. That still has to happen. All right, so here we go.

We're looking at this mock draft right now. And we've got, let's go through the first round. Again, two wide receivers and a flex. And it's full PPR. Christian McC mccaffrey saquon barkley ezekiel elliott dalvin cook alvin camara clyde edwards ziller michael thomas lamar jackson uh davante adams julio jones derrick henry austin eckler so we're i think we're just going to kind of look at these teams as they go. I think the Lamar Jackson pick was an auto pick. Yeah, that's okay.

We're going to keep it. As these teams keep making their picks, we'll look at the teams. The 12th team, Adams Bad Takes, great team name. Austin Eckler, Miles Sanders with their first two picks. What do we think? It's a very good start. If they had seen Joe Mixon was still on the board

and taken him instead of Sanders, I would have been all about it. But yes, great start at the turn. Josh Jacobs just went. All right, so we had Devante Adams, Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, Lamar Jackson all go in round one. This team 11, Derrick Henry in round one, Travis Kelsey in round two.

So that would be JDM team 11 11 here with Derek Henry and Travis Kelsey. It's an excellent start. Josh Jacobs was picked. So Josh here picked 10, went Julio Jones in round one, and Josh Jacobs in round two. Yeah, what's wrong with that? I don't know. Like Tyreek Hill is still on the board.

Yeah, I know they're having Tyreek, but it's debatable. You're not taking two receivers there, though, are you? No, I would have rather had one of the running backs who went after Julio and then get Tyreek Hill when it comes back. Okay. And then the guy with the ninth pick,

Josh's football team, has Devontae Adams in round one and now Nick Chubb in round two. Excellent. I like it a lot. So who else? But Joe Mixon's still there. That's weird.

Right. But Heath, Tyreek Hill is still on the board. So why do you like that pick when Nick Chubb goes? He obviously wanted to have a running back. It's a two-wide receiver league. I was saying the Tyreek Hill thing in response to the Julio Jones pick was a question,

but in a two-wide receiver league, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking Chubb over Tyreek. All right, so now on the clock is carry on swiftly to the Gallaudet, which is a good team name, but unfortunately this manager did not show up yet.

So he has Lamar Jackson in round one. I'm going to pick for him. I think it's time to take Joe Mixon in round two. Joe Mixon going fairly late. That was 17th overall. Higher than I haven't ranked, I believe. But yes, later than he normally goes. Right, exactly.

All right, so nothing really stands out except for the Lamar Jackson pick, which is probably an auto pick. Kenyon Drake now. So that would be the team that with Michael Thomas now is Michael Thomas and Kenyon Drake. All right. Nothing out of the ordinary so far.

Uh, this, this is the sixth pick in the draft. This is supposed to be me and a guy named Don, but Don didn't show up. So I'm drafting for this team as well. I took Clyde Edwards, he layer in round one,

and now it is time to take Tyreek Hill, the best running backs available, just so everybody knows. Aaron Jones, James Connor. Yeah, I like them, but Tyreek Hill has to be the pick, right? Yeah, you said nothing out of the ordinary, and that's

certainly out of the ordinary that he's available at pick 19. Yeah, in a full PPR league for sure. All right, Ben. So right now, Kevin is on the clock. Cheapies picks. In round one, he took Alvin Kamara. In round two, he just took George Kittle.

What do you think about that? I would have gone Aaron Jones there. I am so confident in the late round tight ends this year that I don't want to take Kittle mid-round two. I know Heath disagrees. A lot of the guys here disagree, but I would have gone Aaron Jones, lock in two really high-end running backs. When you say confident in the low-end tight ends, you're confident they're going...

Because when you drop from Kittle to even Evan Ingram, Hayden Hurst, you're probably giving up what three or four fantasy points a game five fantasy points a game so you're confident in those guys getting within five points of Kittle finishing within

in the top eight top six being within four points and I don't know how I feel about running backs in rounds five through seven outside of Mark Ingram. So I'd rather wait on the tight end. They're pretty messy. And this is a PPR league, so that's not good for Ingram. But I know Ingram's your guy.

Yeah, the running backs around five through seven are just they're just messy. We'll get to them for sure. The next two picks after Kittle, the next three picks for wide receivers. Chris Goblin, DeAndre Hopkins, and DJ Moore. And now we're waiting for the first, for Bill's Mafia, Jason Book, to make his picks. He took Christian McCaffrey, and now we're at the turn. Let me see who's got running back, running back. Adams bad takes with the 12th pick had Eckler and Sanders.

That is the only team to start running back, running back. Let's see what Bill's Mafia, Jason Book, does here. Yeah, we usually see Connor and Aaron Jones in the second round. At least recently. Wow. Hypothetical here. You have McCaffrey. What if you go, remember, this is two receivers only, and you start a flex and it's PPR.

What if you go McCaffrey, Jones, Connor? I went Barkley,rey, Jones, Connor. I went Barkley, Connor, Carson, and you absolutely hated it. So I'm not sure that it's a good idea. Was that a three-receiver league though? I think it was. Yeah. That makes a big

difference here. So he went with Cooper Cup with pick 24. So through the first two rounds, only one team went running back, running back, and that was the team that had the 12th pick. I think that's pretty interesting. It's unusual for sure. Yeah. All right. So Aaron Jones and James Conner still

around at the beginning of the third round as we wait. Jason Book is milking the clock. He is taking all this time here. All right. That's all right. You can think about it. You've got Cooper. He's thinking about my homes time here. All right. That's all right. You can think about it. You've got Cooper Cupp. You think he's thinking about Mahomes right here?

That's a good call. Who do you think he's going to take? I think he's going to take Aaron Jones. Yeah, I'll say James Conner. Who's Aaron Jones? Aaron Jones.

What do I win? Snickers? God, did I eat a lot of Snickers yesterday. Three Snickers during the draft. What was your total? Three? Three.

How about Snickers talking trash to you on Twitter? What did they say? I thought they were complimenting me. They said, looks like you need a Snickers, but you've already had one. Okay, yeah, that wasn't it. So it wasn't it. All right, the second team,

the Saquon Barkley team just took Mike Evans. That gives him the sombreros. Saquon Barkley, DJ Moore, and Mike Evans. The third pick is the Ezekiel Elliott team. Ezekiel Elliott, that's Hasta La Vista, baby.

Oh, Heath, they're using your team name. Outstanding. Ezekiel Elliott, DeAndre Hopkins, and Kenny Galladay. The Dalvin Cook team, Chipotle Bra, just took Dalvin Cook, Chris Godwin, and James Conner. I really like that start. Yeah? So, Ben, you feel confident in Conner,

like kind of in that group of the potentially elite running backs? Exactly. Not the super elites, but the... No, the workload will be there. I'm a little scared with the injuries, but everything, we haven't seen a lot in training camp from anyone, but all of the reports have been that

it's James Conner's backfield until he gets hurt. All right, Heath, this is the Camara team. Cheapies picks. Alvin Camara, George Kittle, who did return to practice. By the way, Miles Sanders is now listed as day-to-day instead of week-to-week. That's a good thing.

Alvin Kamara, George Kittle, and Allen Robinson. My top player available. Okay. Allen Robinson. The other wide receivers available are Ridley, Juju, Thielen, Beckham, Lockett, Woods, McLaurin. The running back's available. You know, it's Chris Carson's the best one. Then it's

Gurley, Gordon, Taylor, Bell, etc. My team is on the clock now. It wasn't supposed to be my team. Oh, I have two chiefs. How about that? Clyde Edwards, Z-Lair, and Tyreek Hill. You might, I mean, at this point,

you would be foolish to not take Patrick Mahomes. Yes. You're right. Patrick Mahomes. I love it. I love it. That's great. Pick it out of the sixth spot.

I don't know how realistic that, it's not realistic. Clyde Edwards, Z-Lair, Tyreek Hill, Patrick Mahomes. I love that it. That's great. Pick it out of the sixth spot. I don't know how realistic that is. It's not realistic. Clyde Edwards, Z-Lair, Tyreek Hill, Passion. I love that start. That's terrific. Well, it's possible in our drafts, and it just happened in a draft that wasn't our draft. So it's possible. That is so fun.

People are commenting on the Chiefs stack. How cognizant are you of other people's teams when you're drafting? I have sort of tunnel vision. I'm really just focusing on my team and the teams that are right next to me, basically. For me, it depends where I am. If I'm in the middle of the round, it's very tough for me to see what other people are doing

and care about it because I don't have much of a choice in strategy. But if I'm towards the end of either round, I am studying up on all the picks the guys around me are making okay let's see what else is going on here in this draft and then ben you can you can promote some things you always just tell me what to promote i'll let you promote uh after my mahomes pick where are the latest results my apologies apologies. AJ Brown goes to 8 Eek-ed. I don't know what your team name

is, bro. But let's see what he's got so far. Francis has Michael Thomas, Kenyon Drake, and AJ Brown. Something interesting about that team. What do you think about that? Michael Thomas, AJ

Brown, and Kenyon Drake. Yeah, it's a little early for me for Brown, especially in full PPR. But there's upside on that team for sure. All right, so now I'm drafting for the team that has Lamar Jackson and Joe Mixon.

I think we're going to go with Juju Smith-Schuster here. Not Chris Carson? No, I can't go three rounds in a PPR league without a wide receiver, I don't think. I really like Juju Smith-Schuster here. Not Chris Carson? No, I can't go three rounds in a PPR league without a wide receiver, I don't think. I really like Juju also. I'm going to sort by Heath's rankings. I think that makes the most sense.

It's Heath's on the show. Lamar Jackson, Joe Mixon, Juju Smith-Schuster. It's even more surprising that Patrick Mahomes fell to the middle of the third round with Lamar Jackson going in the first round. So that means there were five teams in round three that could have taken Mahomes fell to the middle of the third round with Lamar Jackson going in the first round. So that means there were five teams in round three that could have taken Mahomes and didn't have a choice of taking Jackson.

And he fell. Calvin Ridley off the board now. So let's take a look at the Calvin Ridley team. That's Josh's football team. Josh's football team so far, picking ninth. Devontae Adams, Nick Chubb, Calvin Ridley.

That's maybe my favorite team. Really? No, your favorite team is my team. Mahomes, Mahomes, Edwards, Tyreek Hill. But it's your team.

Robert Woods. Robert Woods. Robert Woods going 34th overall. Too soon? Well, and I said this today on HQ. The separation in PPR between wide receiver 7 and wide receiver 18 is almost nothing. Every once in a while, like it happened with Juju, there were quite a few reports

about how Claypool was doing well and Washington was doing well and Ebron's really developed chemistry. And so I dropped Juju's target share by 1% and he fell from wide receiver 8 to wide receiver 18. Get out of here.

So that is, like that's how close they all are. So I wouldn't argue, like if you take a wide receiver that's Get out of here. So that is like, that's how close they all are. So I wouldn't argue like if you take a wide receiver that's in my top 18 as a top 12 wide receiver, I'm not really going to argue with you. Fair enough.

Did you move Juju down to 18 or did you just leave it? Not all the way to 18 because I didn't want to put him behind Beckham. I didn't want to put him behind Thielen, but he's he did.

I did drop him. Yeah. Okay. So taking a look at behind Thielen, but he's, he did. I did drop him. Yeah. Okay. So taking a look at round three here, it was Aaron Jones, Mike Evans, Kenny Galladay, James Connor,

Alan Robinson, Patrick Mahomes, AJ Brown, Juju Smith, Schuster, Calvin Ridley, Robert Woods, Tyler Lockett,

Adam Thielen. There really hasn't been any bad picks except Lamar Jackson around one, which we think is too early, but that was an auto pick. So let's just grade these teams through three picks. Let's start with the first pick bills, mafia. They have Christian McCaffrey,

Aaron Jones, and Cooper cup. That's A minus. A minus. All right, let's go to the sombreros with the second pick. Saquon Barkley, Mike Evans and DJ Moore.

I'll go A. A minus. Hasta la visca, baby. Ezekiel Elliott, Kenny Galladay and DeAndre Hopkins. C-minus. We don't like this one? What's wrong with this team?

What do our listeners need to know? Well, full PPR, I don't think Kenny Galladay should go in front of all the wide receivers that went in round three. Okay. And then also, I don't like DeAndre Hopkins all that much. Okay. All right. So it wasn't a strategy thing. It was just the players.

Heath doesn't like them quite as much. The Dalvin Cook team, pick four. This is Jake, Hank, and Meyer. Chipotle bra. Dalvin Cook, James Conner, and Chris Godwin. Dalvin Cook, Chris Godwin, James Conner. Ooh, yeah. I like this one. A.

This is a good one. A plus. Yeah, we'll go A plus. All right. And then the Alvin Kamara team picking fifth. Cheapies picks Kamara, Kittle, Allen Robinson. A minus. B plus.

Then the sixth pick, which I'm picking for Don. Clyde Edwards-Ziller, Tyreek Hill, Patrick Mahomes. A plus. A plus. Like, really, if I was fairly grading that team, I would probably give it a B minus. Really? Because you took Clyde Edwards-Ziller earlier.

Who did you take Clyde Edwards-Zillerire earlier. Like, who did you take Clyde Edwards-Hilaire ahead of? Michael Thomas. Yeah, right. Well, if you are convinced that he's the number six running back, then I could understand taking him there. Right. There's no real reason to think that, though, is my point. Oh, you really don't think so?

I'm going to resume the draft here and let these people keep going. I'm not saying that he can't be a top five running back. I'm just saying the idea of, yeah, he's definitely better than all of these running backs that were top ten running backs last year. Well, definitely. I can't say definitely. I can't say definitely, but I think he has a stronger – I personally think Clyde Abrazilia has a stronger case than anyone else.

I probably – Miles Sanders would be – What do you think? Definitely, but I think he has a stronger... I personally think Clyde Edwards-Elaire has a stronger case than anyone else. I probably... Miles Sanders would be... What do you think... I guess this is my question. I've been waiting to do this a little bit, so it's good to do it with just you. What do you think... What are you expecting in terms of

Clyde Edwards-Elaire's touches? 17 a game, at least, but with four of them being catches. So, no, maybe more like 18, 18, 19 a game. Not in week one. Not in week one. Right. That would be a ton.

What do you expect for like Alvin Kamara and Austin Eckler's touches? Like not that many, right? You think he's more of a feature back than they are? Carries? like not that many right you think he's more of a feature back than they are um carries i would think he would get more i think i think pretty similar to camara what is camara he's like uh he's an 80 catch guy every year and 200 homes has not targeted his running backs like that because he throws down field he's like 200 carries maybe pace last year i don't know that he's ever actually had 200 carries in a season i don't know i'm thinking like 13 carries four catches you don't think that's too much

that i do not think that isn't a fair expectation for a running back of his size on a team like the chiefs that's going to be very pass heavy that generally throws downfield. But it's possible. I just, that seems more like an upside to me than an expectation. Okay. Let's go to round three here. Todd Gurley, Terry McLaurin, Le'Veon Bell.

Oh, Le'Veon Bell. It's round four, right? Round four, round four. Still 39th overall, Le'Veon Bell. Oh, Le'Veon Bell. It's round four, right? Round four, round four. Still 39th overall, Le'Veon Bell. 40th overall, Keenan Allen. Come on. Are these good picks? Gurley, McLaurin, Bell, and Allen?

They're picks that nobody else wants to make, but I don't know that they're necessarily bad picks. I mean, Andy Holloway took Le'Veon Bell six spots earlier than this in our draft. And that was a league where you started three wide receivers. Right. And he knows what he's doing. So, oh, wait. Autopick. We've got to back that one out. Sorry about that.

Okay. So, I'm picking for this manager here. This is the team that has Lamar Jackson, Joe Mixon, and Juju Smith-Schuster. We are on the clock with the fifth pick of round four. All right.

I think Chris Carson has lasted long enough. That makes the Le'Veon pick a bad pick. The fact that Chris Carson was available. But who else is available? Look at all of these wide receivers. Cooper, Beckham, Sutton. You set it up to only start two of them. They're going to have good wide receivers available three rounds from now.

So you're really saying Le'Veon Bell, 39th overall, is a good pick? I'm not saying it's a good pick. I'm saying it's not a mock-worthy pick. I'm not taking him now until round five, but there are a variety of ways he could justify a fourth-round ADP.

Are there any chiefs I can take for this team? Mahomes, Clyde Everett, D'Aler, Tyreek Hill. It would be a reach, right? Wait until the double-digit rounds at this point. Yeah, I think so. Well, Kareem, I could take Kareem Hunt. He used to be a chief. It's true.

I'm going to take Melvin Gordon for this team. Melvin Gordon gets the pick here in round five. Round four, excuse me. All right, so round four so far is Gurley, McLaurin, Le'Veon, Keenan Allen, Chris Carson, Mark Andrews, and Melvin Gordon. So let's see what the team that just took Mark Andrews

is looking like right now. That would be Kenyon Drake at running back, Michael Thomas, A.J. Brown, and Mark Andrews at wide receiver. Yeah, I think this guy likes Ben Gritch. I think so. I think so. I think so. This is Francis Roth, who's very light on running back.

Any takeaways from you, Shracker? On that team? My biggest takeaway right now is the Keenan Allen pick. I know we're really down on Amari Cooper, but if Amari Cooper has his six spike games that he has every year, I think he's a better value than Keenan Allen.

He shouldn't be a top 12 wide receiver, but I don't think you should take Keenan Allen over him. We know nothing about that Chargers offense, and Allen has not been a stud. See if you can find Keenan Allen's... I can probably do it. Wait, wait, wait. Allen has been a stud in the past.

In the past three years? Last year, he was a top eight wide receiver in this format. It was a bad year for wide receivers. He really didn't have that great of a year. But he did. He did have a lot of catches. Was he a stud last year, though? He did have a lot of catches.

Top eight last year? But you know there's a caveat to that. They're going to throw a lot fewer passes this year. And he's going to have fewer catches. Yes, they are probably going to throw fewer passes this year. I think there's an overstatement of how certain we are that the number of passes Terod Taylor threw in Buffalo is directly correlated to the number of passes

he's going to throw for the Chargers. Do we then think they're going to throw for the Chargers. Do we then think they're going to run a ton with Eckler and the other two? That's what everyone else seems to think. I am very uncertain of that. I think it's a combination of what has this team done and the coaching staff, and then what has Terod Taylor done. And it seems like more people are just leaning all the way towards

to run Taylor's career while also saying that he's not very good. And if he loses the job to Justin Herbert, you're probably seeing the Philip Rivers Chargers offense with the worst quarterback. My expecting rivers was terrible. I'm not expecting Justin Herbert to throw. He threw for like 45 how many yards of Philip Rivers throw for last year.

Justin Herbert is not going to be on that pace. I feel very confident in that. I know Rivers was bad, and he threw a lot of interceptions, but he still actually threw for a ton of yards last year. Right? Can somebody confirm that? He attempted a ton of passes last year, so I assume that he did go well over 4,000 yards.

Yes. All right. More picks here in round four after Mark Andrews. Melvin Gordon, Jonathan Taylor, Amari Cooper, Odell Beckham. We're coming to the end

of round four. Two picks left. Anything really stand out there? What do you think about Jonathan Taylor, 44th overall? Tyler Boyd. I've never seen Tyler Boyd

go 47th overall. Wow. That was a mistake. Yeah. But Jonathan Taylor there is fine. All the running backs now have upside, That was a mistake. Yeah. But Jonathan Taylor there is fine. All the running backs now have upside,

but there's not too much certainty. I like David Johnson over him. David Johnson is still on the board. Not anymore. But I totally see the risk of David Johnson. David Johnson just went 48th. Heath, who do you like, Taylor or Johnson? Johnson, yeah. Pretty easily.

Okay. Damn, was hoping Tyler Boyd would make it back to me. Nice pick, says Josh M. What pick does Josh have? Josh has... So here's the thing, right? Josh has the 10th pick, I think. And the guy who had the second pick had two picks before Josh.

So Matt, the sombreros, took Tyler Boyd. Tyler Boyd, 47th. If you really wanted him, you had to take him around five, not around four. There was almost no chance that Bill's Mafia, who has the number one pick and picks 48 and 49,

was taking Tyler Boyd. It would have been very surprising. So don't take him 47th. Take him 50th. I mostly agree with you, but my biggest regret always is when I take that mindset and someone else takes the player I want. Well, it happened to me in the podcast league, but I really don't think... This is a random league with random podcast listeners.

They have no idea anything about each other's likes. But Tyler Boyd is so much lower in the rankings. That was the thing. It's true. Let's see who he takes now. He took Michael Gallup here. The last two picks after Boyd were David Johnson and Cortland Sutton. So we got five picks for a couple of teams.

So let's take a look at their teams. The McCaffrey team, Bill's Mafia, is McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, David Johnson at Flex, Cortland Sutton, and Cooper Cup. I don't know why. I don't really... No, I do like this team.

I don't love it, but I like it. Sutton and Cup at wide receiver, Aaron Jones, McCaffrey, David Johnson. No thoughts, no comments. I did not hear the question mark at the end of that line of words. We're having a conversation. I understand. I understand.

All right, so let's see. The Sombreros with the second pick. They've made five picks so far. As Zach Ertz and T.Y. Hilton come off the board. Let's take a look at the sombreros team. Saquon Barkley in round one. He's the only running back so far. Oh, man.

What interesting picks. Yeah, I don't like this. So I don't think this is a good strategy. Remember, two only have to start two receivers. He's got Saquon Barkley and four wide receivers so far. So he's probably going to have to hammer running back at some point. Barkley, DJ Moore, Mike Evans, Michael Gallup, and

Tyler Boyd. I'm going to make a pick if anybody wants it. Ben, why don't you take a look at Asa LaVisca, baby, who had the third pick, took Ezekiel Elliott, and has made five picks. He's made five picks so far. Oscar,

Visco, baby. He has Zeke Elliott, Kenny holiday, Deandre Hopkins, Zach Ertz, Odell Beckham, Jr.

So Zeke, three wide receivers and a tight end. I don't hate the strategy. I, he's got a good tight end. I don't hate the strategy. He's got a good tight end. I don't like the actual players that he selected, like almost universally.

So if you had taken your top three wide receivers in those positions with Zeke and Zach Ertz, would you be cool with this draft? Well, let's see what he had available to him. Let me just recap in case you forgot so he is zeke

hopkins galladay beckham when he took hopkins when he took hopkins he could have had dj moore so let's say zeke dj moore and then when he took galladay he could have had alan robinson or calvin ridley who i'd prefer so zeke dj moore calvin ridley zach ertz and then when he took beckham he could have had courtland sutton i'd probably take beckham so yeah if you told me that was the team more ridley and beck beckham and earth's a tight end and zeke running back i would like that a lot i I think a lot of people, though, would prefer Hopkins and Galladay to Moore and Ridley. Yeah, I think you're right. Yep.

Ben, who would you rather have, Hopkins and Galladay or Moore and Ridley? Hopkins and Galladay. It's tougher in PPR. I think in non-PPR, it's a no-brainer, but I would rather have those two. I love the upside of Keith's guys, and I totally understand why he loves them,

but a lot of it is upside. Yeah. I, um, well, I would rather have Galladay in non PPR than, um, any,

like if this is non PPR, I would love Rick Galladay there. I think Hopkins might actually get worse than non PPR. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know that the volume... I think we're relying on him to get that yards per target up to where it was when he was a lot better two years ago. I don't know that the volume is going to be there.

So I don't know how to differentiate the guy in PPR and non-PPR. It's just DJ Moore I like a lot more in PPR. All right. We're going to pause the draft after six rounds. I'm going to recap some of the teams. Let's do the teams I picked in the back end here. So Adams Bad Takes. We'll start with Adams Bad Takes.

Best team name so far. This was the 12th pick and obviously 13 as well. Miles Sanders, Austin Eckler, Adam Thielen, Stefan Diggs, who we just took 60th overall, and Todd Gurley at flex. Miles Sanders, Austin Eckler, Adam Thielen, Stefan Diggs, Todd Gurley. I am totally cool with all those picks.

I think only two quarterbacks off the board so far, right? Just two. This is a podcast league draft if I've ever seen one. All right, let's see. JDM's team picking out of the 11th spot. Justin, Derek Henry falling to 11 in PPR. I know it's PPR, but it doesn't usually get that far. Henry, Kareem Hunt at running back at RB2.

So let's see if he loaded elsewhere. Kelsey at tight end. Tyler Lockett and Terry McLaurin. Excellent. Henry Hunt, Lockett, McLaurin, Kelsey. I like it. So far, so good. Let's see.

Josh. Josh, our time. Josh Jacobs and Le'Veon Bell. This was the 10th pick. He took Julio Jones in round one and Josh Jacobs in round two. Jacobs and Bell, Julio and Robert Woods, and Marquise Brown at flex. I'm feeling like C here. Yeah, it feels okay, right? Just okay.

Yeah. All right, let's see the team with the ninth pick, Josh's football team. Nick Chubb and Tariq Cohen, Devontae Adams, Calvin Ridley, and Keenan Allen. Nick Chubb, Tariq Cohen, Devante Adams, Calvin Ridley, and Keenan Allen. Nick Chubb, Tariq Cohen, Devante Adams, Calvin Ridley,

Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen's a good flex in PPR. Very good. It's fine. I guess, but Tariq Cohen is, like, Tariq Cohen's is RB2. Like, you have an elite number one wide receiver.

I think we'd all agree on that. Devante Adams. An elite number two wide receiver. We all expect. We all hope. Yeah. But he was a solid number two last year. So either way.

An elite flex, I would expect. Unless we think he's going from wide receiver one to not good at flex. But you're comparing it like Todd Gurley is a flex. Who are the other flexes in this league? Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Odell Beckham, Odell Beckham, T.Y. Hilton, Marquise Brown, Cam Akers. Yeah, Keelan Allen's fine in that group.

Sure. I wouldn't call him elite compared to that group, but fine. I just think Heath disagrees with this, but I think he has two flexes starting right now. I don't know that we can call Tariq Cohen an RB2 when David Montgomery is probably going to be back in two weeks. Right. He's a low-end RB2 or a high-end flex,

one of the two, but when you have a second best wide, when you're really, really good at a couple of spots, you're going to have one or two spots where you're not great. Through five picks? Or through six picks? No, it's five picks. I don't know.

I wouldn't be happy with this team. Nick Chubb, Tariq Cohen, Devontae Adams, Calvin Ridley, and Keenan Allen. You would be happy with that? You don't like Keenan Allen or Tariq Cohen. I think you get Tariq Cohen around too early. I would agree with that. Yeah, that's the thing. But you don't like those two players, and I do,

so that's the main thing. I like Tariq Cohen. I just think he's kind of a low upside play, but Tariq Cohen is a great RB2 if you are, like, stacked everywhere

and you just fell into Tariq Cohen, he's your RB2. I mean, but I don't think that's the case here. So Kareem Hunt went two picks later.

Does that change your view at all, Adam? If he had gotten Kareem Hunt instead of Cohen later. Does that change your view at all, Adam? If he had gotten Kareem Hunt instead of Cohen? That'd be much better. Yeah, I think so. Much more upside, that's for sure. Probably the same results, but the theoretical upside is there with Hunt.

Yeah, the injury upside. Alright, we are resuming the draft. Devontae Parker, 61st overall. Will Fuller, 62nd overall. Ben, do you think that's too soon? I know he thinks that's too soon for Fuller. For Fuller, I'm fine with it. I think it's too soon for Parker.

So, Heath, you're taking Preston Williams over Will Fuller? No. What? No. Oh, so then maybe it wasn't that soon for Will Fuller. Did I misspeak? No, I think it probably was. I't take preston williams here because i wouldn't have to but i would take him next round probably but he's your second highest ranked

wide receiver left correct aj green preston so i guess you just don't like the wide receivers right now right okay i'm usually taking my second running back in this round it is oh by leonard fournette is his highest ranked running back. It is time for the quarterbacks. Dak, Wilson, Watson, Kyler to start coming off the board here. They should all be gone. Yeah, we're in round six where he most or was just picked.

Darren Waller was just picked. Oh, I got to make a pick here for the team that has. That really feel like it's my homes is not feeling as good when those guys come back in round six. Like, that's a thing that may happen to you. You know what, Heath?

I have felt that way every single draft because every single draft, there's always great quarterback value. So I think if you take Mahomes or Jackson in round two or three or whatever, you just have to accept the fact that there's great quarterback value later and you have to live with it

and you just have to say, these guys still have great quarterback value later and you have to live with it and you just have to say, these guys still have the potential to be so much better than everyone else. But imagine if you'd not taken them in round three, but you'd used your first or second round pick on one of those guys, and then you had seen all these great quarterbacks. That's why we tell people not to do it.

Yeah, right. DeAndre Swift goes after David. I took David Montgomery for the lamar jackson team yeah there are just a lot of running backs um still available it seems like when you said preston williams your number one wide number two wide receiver left there were just a lot of running backs and quarterbacks that needed to be drafted and probably like we are getting into i guess waller's gone but ingram henry and herst are all still there as well yeah well i'm on the clock with this mahomes edward z layer tyreek hill team that also has

melvin gordon and dk metcalf i've got evan ingram in my queue i don't love the running backs here best wide receiver available aj green yeah i'm gonna take evan ingram and that's the thing you've heard me say it with jamie at the greater late end thing. I don't usually get Evan Ingram, but considering I already have a quarterback, this would normally be a quarterback round for me. Round six, I love getting quarterbacks three through six in round six since I already have Mahomes.

Sure, I'll go tight end there. So I took Evan Ingram. So now that's Mahomes, Edward Ziller, Melvin Gordon, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Evan Ingram. So now that's Mahomes, Edward Ziller, Melvin Gordon, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Evan Ingram, Jarvis Landry off the board. We are at pick 69 overall. I just,

that was a random, I don't know why I picked that number. You know what? We need to rewind for a second because I may have said something wrong. You said, I know Heath thinks this is too early for Will Fuller.

Ben Schrager said, I'm okay with Fuller here, but it was too high for Parker. And you said, so Heath, you like Preston, you're drafting Preston Williams ahead of Devante Parker. No, I said ahead of Will Fuller. The answer to that is yes.

Okay. And you're drafting Preston Williams ahead of Devante Parker? I'm just waiting until Parker's taken and then I'll take Williams. I don't think anyone else is anywhere close to that yet. Julian Edelman, 69th

overall. Julian Edelman's so interesting. I've been talking about this. He went 92nd in our podcast league draft. He went 69th here. Both PPR leagues, both two receivers. I think he's hurt a lot by a two wide receiver league. My perception of him is like,

eh, is he going to be a top 20 guy? Is that his upside? Well, why don't we take a look at the team that took Julian Edelman and see what role he's playing because that is his fourth wide receiver. So he has no tight end or quarterback. Dalvin Cook, James Conner. This is the team we love.

Dalvin Cook, James Conner. We loved it team we love. Dalvin Cook, James Conner. We loved it through three picks. Chris Godwin, Amari Cooper, T.Y. Hilton, Julian Edelman. Man, that's where you seize a chance to be great. And go Dak Prescott right there? Yeah, but he can't. Oh, my goodness. You know what?

You're right. This is a great time to take a quarterback instead of Julian Edelman. But Chipotle Bra is going to get one of those next four quarterbacks with his next pick if he wants him because he's up in four picks and we still don't have any of those quarterbacks gone. DeAndre Swift, Evan Ingram, Jarvis Landry,

Julian Edelman, J.K. Dobbins, Leonard Fournette. All right, Leonard Fournette went 71st overall. That's about right. Ben, what do you think? I'm cool with him there. I'm cool with him earlier in round six. I think the sky is the limit and the upside is better

than any other running back in that range other than Kareem Hunt. In round six, you're not expecting Fournette to be your RB2 week one, but he could be a stud with Tom Brady. We just don't know much. Okay, so the Saquon Barkley team took Fournette.

That was the sombreros. Let's take a look at that team and see what kind of role Fournette is playing. Oh, that's his RB2. Saquon Barkley and Leonard Fournette, DJ Moore, Mike Evans, Tyler Boyd, Michael Gallup. Still no quarterback, still no tight end, but he's back on the clock after Fournette. Bill's Mafia took Singletary and AJ Green. All right, Sombreros comes with Dak Prescott.

So there we go. 74th overall, the third quarterback off the board. Should start a run. Yes. Okay, Dak Prescott, Saquon Barkley, Leonard Fournette, DJ Moore, Mike Evans, Tyler Boyd at flex, Michael Gallup on the bench. Just swap Gallup and Boyd.

Get Gallup in your flex, and I love your team. But he's going to have to take more running backs. You're not starting Leonard Fournette week one. So he'll take more running backs. But he can start Marlon Mack or carry on Johnson week one. Good will be interesting to see if they make it back. I think carry on Johnson as the Bears, right?

Yeah, I don't know like they've had some they've lost some pieces. The Bears defense is a mystery. They lost Eddie Goldman. He opted out. They do have Hicks back who missed a lot of time last year. Let's see. So Dak Prescott

goes now James White to Hasta La Vista, baby. This has got Hunter Henry goes Chipotle broth. You had it. You could have taken Kyler Murray. You took Hunter Henry instead. If you don't like Hayden Hurst, I kind of understand that because that's the end of a tier if you

don't like Hurst. Yeah, that kind of understand that because that's the end of a tier if you don't like Hurst. Yeah, that's true. So who's the next best tight end? It's Hurst, then who else? The Gronk, Higby. Well, people like Higby. Higby, Gronk, yeah. Hey, Heath, are you moving Zach Moss ahead of Devin Singletary? I'm not ready to do that yet.

I don't know. I think Jamie is. Because... Because there was a report just, just came out from the athletic that if Devin Singletary continues to fumble in the regular season, he could lose his Zach Moss could take over as the primary running back. Yeah. I,

I guess that's a possibility that happens with a lot of backfields. If you continue to fumble, you could lose your job. Yeah. Well, look, I'm on the clock right now with the 78th pick. I've got a team with basically a starting lineup. I've got two running backs, two wide receivers, a tight end, and a quarterback, so I need a flex. So I'm basically just looking best player available here.

The best wide receivers are crowder marvin jones brandon cooks preston williams i'm just not feeling that the best running backs the dolphins guys carry on johnson marlin mack philip lindsey i think ronald jones zach moss i think i'm gonna take zach moss Yeah, he's lower in your rankings, Heath. 78th, I got him. Yeah, I would have probably taken carry on there, but I think Zach Moss is a fine choice as well. I just, like the whole thing with the Buffalo situation is,

is there a chance without an injury that Zach Moss is going to become a feature back in Buffalo. I don't really think so. And if that's not going to happen, I'm not sure that Buffalo situation is good enough to produce starting running backs consistently in a committee. Is there any running back though here, here that does fit that description? Because I just took Kerryon Johnson for the other team I'm drafting for. Antonio Gibson went in between Zach Moss and Kerryon Johnson, then Phillip Lindsey went.

But every running back on the board is in that situation. None of them are featured backs without an injury, I don't think. Maybe Rykel Armstead. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a pretty good chance that Kerryon's a feature back to start the year. Because, Armstead. Yeah. I mean, I think there's a pretty good chance that carry on the feature back to start the year because there is an injury to start the year, but how long does that last? And I mean,

does that even matter? I'm not sure I'm starting him week one against the bears, right? I mean, I could, if I had gone that route, let me see the team that I took carry on Johnson with. Um,

I have mixing in Carson there and I, well, I could start them because I have David Montgomery and Kerryon Johnson. So Montgomery's not going to be in play. Yeah, I could start him as a flex. By the way, Ben, Heath, I'm starting to get more interested in David Montgomery

as he plummets in draft boards. Yeah, I mean, I was pretty interested in him beforehand. But yeah, I like him a lot in round seven um if he's there in round eight even better yeah i mean the guys are getting in the same rounds are not like hey three weeks from now you're gonna get 15 plus touches david montgomery was never going to be a full workload stud, but he now can actually get some work three weeks from now and be good. Are you buying any of this Cordell Patterson hype Heath? No,

I think he'll be a 10 to 12 carries until Montgomery's back. All right, let's take a look around seven and this 12 team PPR league, two wide receivers, two running backs and a flex AJ green, Dak Prescott, James white, Hunter Henry, Kyler Murray, Zach Moss, Antonio Gibson, two running backs, and a flex. A.J. Green, Dak Prescott, James White, Hunter Henry, Kyler Murray,

Zach Moss, Antonio Gibson, Kerryon Johnson, Philip Lindsay, Marvin Jones, Matt Breida, Jamison Crowder. Does Antonio Gibson belong that high? That would be 79th overall. I don't think so. I think it's too high. What about Matt Breida, 83rd overall? It's okay.

That's not too bad. Marlon Mack's the only one on the board that I would take over him. Marlon Mack's still available? Oh, wow. What about Ronald Jones, Heath? Would you prefer Ronald Jones over the Dolphins guys at this point?

No, I would take the Dolphins guys. Both of them. Okay, round eight. Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, Chris Thompson, Latavius Murray so far. So now, I mean, we're at the 88th pick. Is it now time to start taking these lottery ticket handcuffs? Latavius Murray, Chase Ed edmunds some of them will have some value but but you know you're really just hoping for injuries here yeah i just think

this is more likely to happen in a league with two wide receivers because guys get four wide receivers on their team they're like well when am i ever going to use a fifth wide receiver and so we're just going to draft 1100 running backs for the rest of the draft yeah i mean i want to take ronald Ronald Jones for this team that but they have David Montgomery and they have four running backs. So this is a team that I'm picking for right now that has the Mar Jackson, Joe Mixon, Chris Carson, Juju Smith, Schuster, DJ Chark, David Montgomery and carry on Johnson. I still don't like the wide receiver value here.

Yeah, I would take a Hayden Hurster. Oh, OK. That's a good idea. Hayden Hurst, it is. Do you That's a good idea. Hayden Hurst it is. Do you realize that the next three tight ends in your rankings? Oh, in fact, Hunter Henry was before that. So you go Henry, Hurst, Higby, Hooper. Very important thing to notice.

Four H's. Glad we did this. OJ Howard's next, right? Yeah, OJ Howard next. Oh, by the way, Greg Allman of The Athletic said that he's not even sure Rob Gronkowski is going to lead tight ends in catches. He did think that he'll lead them in touchdowns. But, like, I don't think Rob Gronkowski's a full-time player.

He's not a top 12 tight end for me. Josh Allen just went. So the top six quarterbacks are off the board. Josh Allen, number seven, pick 90 overall. You think he should have waited another round? No, he should have gone around before then and drafted either Watson or Wilson. Well, that is true.

But assuming you couldn't do that, is that too early for Josh Allen? 90th? I don't think it's fine. I have him on a tier of his own, and it's in round eight, so that's fine. All right.

So Leonard Fournette, I think, went 79th. Is that right? No, no, no. He must have gone 71st. I think 71st. Ronald Jones went 91st. I just took Ronald Jones, 91st. Yeah, I think that's like half a round later

than I have Fournette at, and maybe half a round later than I have Fournette at and maybe half a round earlier than I have Jones, but that's right in the right place. Okay. Some of the picks here in round eight. Russell Wilson, Chris Thompson. How's that pick, Chris Thompson? Really, really bad. Really?

It's PPR league. I just, like, there is a possibility that Chris Thompson will give you a month of low end RB to PPR production before he gets hurt. But other than the injury concern, is there an expectation that he's going to be on the field a lot and passing down situations because I don't love him here, but I do see a bit more upside with Chris Thompson and PPR. Pretty high floor if he's on the field.

I think there's a hope that he is going to do that. I don't know. Early in the season, sure. You're staring at 0-8, and you're playing Chris Thompson over these three young running backs instead of finding out what they have? I thought you were saying a fantasy team that drafts Chris Thompson is going to be 0-8. And it's not as if... There was a time, and I think it was 2017,

where Chris Thompson lit the world on fire. Maybe 2016 for a little bit, too. But that was a while ago. He's just going to catch passes. I mean, he's going to be there passing downs back. He's got the history with Jake Rudin. Right.

They're going to be struggling. They're going to be trailing a lot. Yeah. Okay. Well, he doesn't like it. I am. Jamie likes it more.

I'm very, I'm very mad at you, Heath, by the way, because I sorted by your rankings and and you buried Deontay Johnson, and I passed over Deontay Johnson with two different teams in two different rounds. Why in the world?

And he went 92nd. You should have no expectation that I would have Deontay Johnson ranked higher. This is 17 spots higher than his ADP, and I almost put him in a bust at that ADP. Go look at Keenan Allen's ADP on CBS. I think it's in like the 70s. Okay.

You were complimenting him in the fourth round. So let's not play the ADP game. I wasn't complimenting him. I said, I don't think it's that terrible of a pick. Like, I don't understand the hope for Deontay Johnson at all. Keenan Allen, I must correct myself, in the 50s. Who's in the 70s? DJ Chark, 72nd overall.

I know there's a lot of wide receivers. What does this have to do with Deontay Johnson? I'm just saying, don't use ADP, because I never see Deontay Johnson go 92nd in drafts that we do. Do you under... But I know... That's why we're doing this draft, right? We get stuck in this bubble where we think that our drafts,

for some reason, are more representative than the thousands of other drafts by people that don't get paid to do this. No, that's why we're doing this. Clearly, our drafts are the weird ones. Everyone else is with me saying, why in the heck are you guys

drafting Deontay Johnson in the seventh round? A lot of people like him. He was a mediocre... Yes, a lot of... He is a popular guy with fantasy Twitter, for sure. I'm saying outside of that bubble, I think people might look at him and say, wow, he was just kind of okay in college

and he didn't have a great combine and he had like 700 yards last year and they drafted chase Claypool who they can't stop raving about. And they added Eric Ebron who's living with Ben Roethlisberger for part of the off season and Juju's back. How is Deontay Johnson getting more than like 90 targets? Okay. All right.

Especially with their defense is so good. I could be wrong. I wish I've asked this multiple times in the podcast and no one has enlightened me yet. I don't get it. Okay. You know what? Everything you said, very good point. He goes 92nd overall and after Deontay Johnson

Look at Chipotle, bro. Got a value pick with what with Preston with any take Preston Williams Preston Williams. All right, our drafter even called it a spicy chicken strips value pick. That's great. Jack in the box like that pick

Christian Kirk off the board. I'm going to give him a great pick bra Sterling Shepard off the board. We're about to be done a great pick, bro. Sterling Shepard off the board. We're about to be done with nine rounds, so maybe we should start looking at these teams and break them down, and then we'll just kind of comment on the late round picks, and we'll see the teams that we like the best.

Okay, so let's start with pick number one, Bills Mafia, Jason Book. His team is this. Tom Brady, Christian McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Cooper Cup, Cortland Sutton, Rob Gronkowski at tight end, David Johnson at flex, with A.J. Green and Devin Singletary on the bench.

That's an A. If you had a good tight end, I'd give it a B+. Yeah, I'm going B. I think he has a great bench with A.J. Green and Devin Singletary, but I'm scared of the tight end and Tom Brady. I imagine he could have waited a couple more rounds to get any sort of quarterback in that same Brady tier. I will change that to an A-

if he's able to acquire Higby, Hooper, Jonu, Herndon, Noah Fant, one of those guys. He reached a little bit for Brady and for Gronk. He obviously believes in the Bucs offense. Brady, McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Kupp, Sutton, Gronk, and David Johnson. Okay, pick number two,

the Sombreros. Saquon Barkley in round one. And Leonard Fournette is his RB2. So Dak Prescott, Saquon Barkley, Leonard Fournette, Mike Evans, and DJ Moore. Michael Gallup

at flex. And you've got Chase Edmonds, Jordan Howard, and Tyler Boyd on the bench. No tight end yet. But he's in good shape to get himself a good tight end. That's a B minus because you can't have no tight end at this point and be relying on Leonard Fournette as your number two running back.

Actually, the tight ends, Tyler Higby, Blake Jarwin just went. So now we're looking at Gasicki, Hawkinson, Hooper, Herndon. Yeah, he's not going to have a great tight end. He might. He's not going to have a high-ranked tight end. All right, the third pick, Asa Loviska, baby. Let's see. It does take me a second sometimes to pull up these teams.

No quarterback yet. Ezekiel Elliott. All right, look at this team. This team just waited, I think, a little bit too long on RB2. But we'll see. Maybe he's going to start. Let's say he starts Marlon Mack in week one. So Ezekiel Elliott, Marlon Mack.

DeAndre Hopkins, Kenny Galladay. Odell Beckham and Flex. Zach Ertz at tight end. Still no quarterback. Debo Samuel on the bench with James White and Marlon Mack. Oh, no. James White and J.K. Dobbins. Sorry.

Marlon Mack. Oh, yeah. That helps a lot it's James White and J.K. Dobbins. Sorry, Marlon Mack is... Ooh, yeah, that helps a lot. That is a big, big difference because you've got the week one starter that I would guess I'm going to rank as a top 20, 25 guy in week one, probably in week two, most likely in week three,

but you've got an early season starter. Marlon Mack. Right. You've got J.K. Dobbins, who could just be a league wrecker in the second half if something goes his way. And you have James White, who can kind of cover that balance and be a low-end number two, right in the same range as Tariq Cohen, maybe not quite as good. I like that combination a lot. I, on our draft show last night, said Tariq Cohen is the bridge to those guys, but I liked the combination of Marlon Mack with JK Dobbins and James White as the bridge. All right.

So lesson learned here, then he took Ezekiel Elliott with the third pick, and then he sort of went like one RB loaded up on wide receiver and tight end. He's got Galladay Hopkins. Now we already talked about this earlier. Heath would have preferred more in Ridley, but Galladay Hopkins Beckham at flex,

Zach Ertz at tight end. You're just like, what are you going to do at RB2? So he took Marlon Mack, J.K. Dobbins, James White, and Deebo Samuel, which I think was a good pick as well. So good. So you can pull that off. Yep. Okay.

Kerryon Johnson would be in the same range as Marlon Mack for this strategy. DeAndre Swift, if he's falling a bit because of his injury, same range for this strategy. But I think it's if he's falling a bit because of his injury, same range for this strategy. But I think it's a great way to do RB2. Okay, I'm just going to make a pick here real quick and then we'll take a look at Chipotle Bra who had the fourth pick. But this team here that I'm picking for

has a full starting lineup, so we're just going to take best player available. And that would be... is there anyone good left other than tight end which we don't need take rugs yeah no daryl henderson no i think i'm josh kelly over d over Daryl Henderson at this point. How do you feel about that? I think it's six in one hand, half dozen in the other. Fair enough. Okay, going to make one more pick here.

I'll take Daryl Henderson on this team. Wonderful. All right, let's now take a look at the fourth pick, which was Chipotle Bra. It took Dalvin Cook. We love the start for this team. Dalvin Cook in round one, Chris Godwin, then James Conner. So Matt Ryan is the quarterback, Cook and Conner, Godwin and Amari Cooper,

Hunter Henry at tight end, T.Y. Hilton or Julian Edelman or Preston Williams at flex. So I think this is a great team, but there is no running back depth i mean he's got two running backs and in nine picks i would assume yeah we've already yeah he's um he's in trouble i would this is the type of team where i would be more likely to go get benny snow um yes james connor he could get he could still draft tevin coleman he just did he just naeem likely to go get Benny Snow. He has James Conner. He could still draft Tevin Coleman. He just did.

Naeem Hines. There's still some low-end number two options. All right, so you took Tevin Coleman, but I think lesson learned here for this, if you take this, two running backs with your first three picks, which were in the right tier, which were Dalvin Cook and James Conner. Great start.

In this league, you only have to start two wide receivers. There's no need to take five wide receivers before you take your third running back. And a quarterback in a tight end, yeah. The clear mistake was Julian Edelman at pick 69. That was not nice. Dobbins, Fournette, and Singletary were the next three picks after he took Edelman. Yeah. That was not nice. Dobbins, Fournette, and Singletary were the next three picks after he took Edelman.

Yeah. That was the mistake. But still, I think it's a solid B, maybe even better. If his running back stayed healthy, he's in the playoffs. Let's look at cheapies picks. Kevin McCollum, picking fifth,

took Alvin Kamara. Kyler Murray, Kamara and Jonathan Taylor. Alan Robinson and Jarvis Landry. George Kittle at tight end. And let's call the flex Cam Akers or Deontay Johnson or Henry Ruggs or Rykel Armstead maybe. Who knows? Maybe he's a flex.

So some options there. I'll repeat the team. Kyler Murray and let's – sorry, we just had an auto pick. So I'm just going to see what happened there, and let's back that pick out and resume. Okay. Kyler Murray, Alvin Kamara, Jonathan Taylor, Alan Robinson, Jarvis Landry, George Kittle,

Cam Akers at Flex, and the bench is good. I like the bench. Deontay Johnson, Rykel Armstead, Henry Ruggs. How do we feel, Ben? How do you feel about this team? This team could have a really slow start, given that Jonathan Taylor and Cam Akers may not have that big of a role early on,

and Jarvis Landry may not be 100%. So I'm not a huge fan of this one. This is a C-plus for me. There's boom, boom, boom potential for sure. Kyler Murray, Jonathan Taylor, really an interesting pair. This is the team that you're hoping you're playing early in the year.

Yeah, right, exactly. Jonathan Taylor and see how healthy Landry is in week one if he's back to full go. Cam Akers, right? It's a good point. Okay, let's see. What pick are we on now? Oh, my team.

The great team that picked sixth and took Clyde Edwards-Elair. That is Mahomes, Edwards-Elair, Melvin Gordon, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, Evan Ingram at tight end, Zach Moss at flex, although I think Brandon Cooks is probably my flex in week one against the Chiefs.

And then on the bench, I would have Moss, Ronald Jones, and Daryl Henderson. So I only have three wide receivers. Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf, and Brandon Cooks. A very Acer team. It is an Acer team. Yeah. Is that a good thing? Although I hardly ever have Patrick Mahomes.

No, I just think you drafted a handful of players that you, like it's everyone that listens to this podcast would know that you like more than I do. Like who? DK Metcalf. Okay. I think Evan Ingram. I mean, he's a giant. Zach Moss. I don't know how I feel about Evan Ingram.

That is the first time I've taken him, I think. Daryl Henderson, yeah. But no, I think it's a solid team. I would like another wide receiver for sure. About to take Deshaun Jackson. He's my week one flex. I am so convinced that Jackson's going to have a good week one. Over Brandon Cooks?

Oh, that could be a really rough thing with him starting on Thursday night. He puts up a big game and then you're waiting on Deshaun Jackson. Do it, Adam. Please do it. I know. What do you think? I mean, we know wide receivers have often struggled in Arrowhead, right? And the Chiefs might actually have a good defense this year. So this I'd really have to look into. I have to study the matchup. Like the Chiefs defense is not going to be good early in the year,

I don't think. Why not? They have two or three players that are suspended. Okay, well. Are you feeling the Sean Jackson week one? I think that he will be a popular DFS play. That's a non-answer.

I really have a hard time with these types of narratives. That's not the way that I approach fantasy football, and so I'm usually not going to project him for a much larger share in week one than I would in week four if he was still playing. But wait, no. The narrative is not he's facing the Redskins, his former team.

He's good in week one. He torched them last year. The narrative is not he's facing the Redskins, his former team. He's good in week one. He torched them last year. The narrative is he's their number one wide receiver. They don't have Jalen Rager. They don't have Alshon Jeffrey for this game.

Yeah. I think Zach Ertz is their number one wide receiver and they're playing a team that they might not have to throw it more than like 25 times. Yet Carson Wentz...

But they may if Kyle Sanders is not 100%. Carson Wentz had two huge games against them last year. Yeah. That's another narrative that I don't generally look at. But the point is the Redskins,

their pass defense last year... Their football team. Yeah. Damn it. The football team, their pass defense was bad enough where you didn't have to throw a lot to have a good game. That's true.

That was the case last year. Yeah, their pass rush will definitely be better this year. Their secondary will probably be a little bit better too. I'm not saying I dislike it, but I just don't know. Well, there's a lot of narratives working in his favor. I will be lower on Deshaun Jackson than the consensus

in week one, I'm certain. Okay. Alright, let's take a look at the next pick at the seventh pick. This would be Francis Roth. Seventh pick of the draft was Devante Adams. No, it was Michael Thomas. Sorry.

So Josh Allen at quarterback, Kenyon Drake and Mark Ingram at running back. Ben loves this team. Michael Thomas and A.J. Brown at wide receiver. Mark Andrews at tight end. And DeAndre Swift at flex. Or Christian Kirk. Yeah, probably Christian Kirk. Or Antonio Gibson.

Damian Harris, who might not be ready for week one, by the way. And Nicole Hardman. There's been a lot of like, Damian Harris might not be ready for week one. Who's going to start for the Patriots now? I wasn't... I missed the announcement where Damian Harris was the starting to start for the Patriots now? I missed the announcement where Damian Harris was the starting running back for the Patriots.

And Sonny Michel was trending in the right direction, right? And Lamar Miller's fully healthy. And Rex Burkhead's there. Josh Allen, Kenyon Drake, Mark Ingram, Michael Thomas, A.J. Brown, Mark Andrews, DeAndre Swift, or let's say

maybe it's Christian Kirk in week one. What do you think about this team? I like it outside of flex. That's the only spot that I feel like there's a weakness. The wide receivers are great. Kenyon Drake paired with Mark Ingram is good with me, and Josh Allen is a top

seven quarterback. It's an A for Ben Gretch. I'll grade for him. And I would give it a B. Does it bother you that Ingram won't be a big pass catcher? Andrews as great as he could be probably won't be a big pass catcher. And AJ Brown, same thing.

They're not exactly PPR guys that bother you at all. Not a big deal, especially given that Michael Thomas is going to be catching a ton of passes and Kenyan Drake is a great pass catcher as well, but it certainly limits the upside. I mean, I'd said when AJ Brown was picked, I thought that was too early on PPR.

So yeah, I don't look at it on like you, I don't look at it on the whole like that as if catches were a category, but I do think I do think AJ Brown was too early. All right, let's go to the eighth pick. Carry on swiftly

into the gala day. Leo which team I ended up picking. Leo had technical difficulties. Unfortunately, Lamar Jackson at quarterback. Joe Mixon and Chris Carson at running back. Juju Smith-Schuster and DJ Chark at wide receiver. Hayden Hurst at tight end.

And the flex will be eventually David Montgomery. But in week one, let's say it is probably Karyon Johnson or Sterling Shepard. Yeah, they're not just going to start Shepard against the Steelers. This team ended up being really good. This is the best Lamar Jackson first round team I've ever seen. It is good. But imagine, you know what's funny?

If I had this pick, I may have taken Joe Mixon in round one and then I could have taken Lamar Jackson in round two. I wouldn't have, but a lot of people would take Lamar Jackson. I would have taken Mixon there. In round one. In round one.

Yeah. This team turned out good, huh? Jackson, Mixon, Carson, Char, because I got Carson around four. Seems like he took everyone, or you took everyone who just happened to fall. Yeah. Like Carson in the fourth round is later than normal.

Mixon went later than normal. I don't remember where you took David Montgomery. I think you took him earlier, but I think around carry on fell to one, two, three, four, five. Montgomery was six, I guess. Okay. All right.

Next team with the ninth pick Josh's football team. By the way, we had a team name in the podcast league, the fantasy football team, which was very funny. Aaron Rodgers, Nick Chubb and Tariq Cohen, Devante Adams, Calvin Ridley, Darren Waller, and Keenan Allen at Flex. This is the team I don't like that much because I'm not high on Cohen and I'm not high on Keenan Allen at Flex. This is the team I don't like that much because I'm not high on Cohen

and I'm not high on Keenan Allen. On the bench, we've got Latavius Murray, Phillip Lindsey, Nikhil Harry, Blake Jarwin, and CeeDee Lamb. It's a good bench. It's an okay team. It's okay. I don't like Rodgers either. Heath, you there?

Yeah. Rodgers is interesting. Ben, why don't you like Rodgers? He was efficient last year, and that's all that he had to be, but he had one spike game of 45-plus points, and that was it. He wasn't the Aaron Rodgers

that put up 25-plus points a game in a six-point-per-touchdown league, and I don't think he's progressing anymore. They didn't do anything to add to that offense in the passing game. I think Devante Adams will be great, but I don't think he's a top 12 quarterback. Okay. Let's go to the next team there. Josh, our time, Matthew Stafford, a quarterback, Josh Jacobs and Le'Veon Bell at running back. Julio Jones, Robert Woods at wide receiver. Marquise Brown at flex. Mike Gasicki at tight end. So Stafford, Jacobs

and Bell. Julio and Woods Gasicki at tight end. Marquise Brown at flex. Is there a second tight end on the roster? No. Chris Thompson, Marvin Jones, Raheem Mostert. Oh, Raheem Mostert's a pretty good option on the bench. Naeem Hines and Darius Slayton.

I don't like it. I think Slayton and Mostert on the bench are awesome, but starting Marquise Brown, where he got Le'Veon Bell, I wasn't a fan of, and Gasicki and Stafford without any backup quarterback and tight end, it's a little scary. Okay, sorry, guys. If you want to take over for a second,

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No big deal. I made a big mistake, by the way. I was not really paying attention. I took Jalen Rager instead of Daryl Williams. As the Clyde Edwards Z-Lair owner, definitely should have taken Daryl Williams. We got two more teams to review here. The 11th and 12th picks.

JDM. JDM's picks. Let's see what we got. This was Russell Wilson, Derek Henry, Kareem Hunt, Tyler Lockett, Terry McLaurin, Travis Kelsey, and Will Fuller. With Boston Scott, Noah Fant,

Jerry Judy, Matt Breida, and LaVisca Chenault on the bench. Starting line, I like this team a lot. Wilson and Kelsey, so you're good at quarterback and tight end. Derek Henry, Kareem Hunt, Lockett, McLaurin, and Will Fuller at flex. I think this is a good team.

There are no holes, and the flex has a ton of upside, and the RB2 has a ton of upside, where you would say are potential weaknesses. So, I really like this team. Yeah. And Jerry, Judy, Matt Brito, Visco Chenault on the bench. Pretty good. All right.

Our final team, Adams Bad Takes. 12th pick. Went back-to-back running backs with Sanders and Eckler. Finishes with Deshaun Watson, Miles Sanders, Austin Eckler, Adam Thielen, Stefan Diggs, Tyler Higbee, and Todd Gurley at flex. That's really the key pick is Todd Gurley. Um, we'll see how that one turns out. So three running backs with his first four picks, Deshaun Watson, Miles Sanders, Austin Eckler, Adam Thielen, Stefan Diggs, Tyler Higbee, and Todd Gurley, uh, got Devante Parker on the bench. Got James Crowder on the bench.

Got Alexander Madison and A.J. Dillon on the bench. Van Jefferson, Emmanuel Sanders. Good bench pieces there. This was very well executed, and this is what happens when you wait until the 6th round and then the 7th round to draft one of these top 6 quarterbacks. You can shape up a great roster and still have a guy who's probably going to finish in the top 6

and could easily finish in the top 3. All right right so that's the team that went running back running back and definitely made it work could have had a better wide receiver too if not for taking todd girley but that's okay i took out girley as your flex and i think that was round four was probably the three four swing and stefan digs 60th overall as a wide receiver too. But I love getting Crowder and Parker on your bench. I think if you're going to be a little weak at wide receiver too, you back them up there. Crowder is a good PPR option and Parker, who was a top 12 wide receiver last year,

but not as good as Preston Williams, you know, according to Heath. Okay. Heath, thank you. Yep. You kind of went silent there at the end. You're just trying to help out. Okay. Heath's helping the kids.

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and it is still open for St. Jude. That's great, man. That's awesome. Ben, Heath, thank you guys so much. Thanks to everybody for participating in this draft. That was awesome to get these listeners in here. So cool. Have a great day, everybody.

Have a great, what is it? Oh, Thursday. We're on Twitch tonight. We'll talk to you then. And we got Chris Harris joining us tomorrow for a mailbag and some IDP talk. See you later.