Fantasy Football Today - Live PPR Mock Draft! Getting Ready for a Big Weekend! (09/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 3, 2021

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Yeah, it is draft weekend, the biggest weekend of drafting in the fantasy calendar, and we are here to give you a 12-team, three-receiver PPR mock draft on the air. It is me, I'm Adam Azer, with Dan Schneier and Heath Cummings, the three of us plus nine listeners. Let's get the draft started.

Dave Kuhn has the first pick. And I got all of these through Facebook, one on Twitter. So please join our Facebook group so you'll be eligible to get into drafts in the future. The first pick was McCaffrey. The second pick was Kamara from Chris, one of our listeners. Dalvin Cook goes third. And Dan, you are on the clock. Remember, this is one quarterback, two running backs, three receivers, tight end, flex, DST, and five bench spots.

Okay, Dan, take us through your thoughts here with the top three off the board. So this is actually a spot where recently we've put a lot of content out there. It's kind of easy with those first three picks. You know where they're going to go, and there's really no reason to bait. But in this format, I normally would go Henry, but in this format, I think that I'm going to land on Ezekiel Elliott. I like what I've seen from him so far. More importantly, I like the Dallas offensive line.

They're healthy again, and they've got a lot of talent there. I think they could be a top five unit again. With Dak, they should be in scoring position a bunch. So I'm going Zeke there. I think they could be a top five unit again with Dak. They should be in scoring position a bunch. So I'm going Zeke here. I don't feel totally great about it. I wish I had a top three pick. I think four is the worst spot,

but I'll go Zeke. Okay. And I think I was going to tell you that whatever you did there, I was going to do in the draft. I have tonight, Thursday evening with the fourth pick. So I think you just made up my mind for me. Let's see if hashtag Acer stats takes Henry. Yes, that was Christian. He took Henry Heath. You're on the clock with the six pick. So I think you just made up my mind for me. Let's see if hashtag Acer stats takes Henry. Yes,

that was Christian. He took Henry Heath. You're on the clock with the six pick. I have the eighth pick. So the three of us are picking fourth, sixth and eighth. All right, Heath, I know you could take Devante Adams. You could you could take two Packers. You could take two different chiefs. Who are you going to go with here at six? I haven't built a Travis Kelsey team in a while, and I actually realized yesterday as I was going through my rosters, like I've drafted Travis Kelsey and plenty of mocks. I have zero real teams right now with Travis Kelsey. Do you want to play this league out?

This is not a real team and I do not want to play this out. It just, I was just telling you that we are taking Travis Kelsey tonight in the, for the people draft. And I am also Travis Kelsey right now. It's a super flex league. We're not going to take Kelsey eighth. Yeah, we are.

No, we're not. Yes, we are. No, I'll be to take the first round pick that you could have the second round pick. If Kelsey's there, you go for it. All right. So you took Kelsey. So that's McCaffrey, Camara, Cook, Zeke, Henry, Kelsey. This is Derek Richard on right now.

Oh, I'm sorry. You know what? This is not from Facebook. these listeners and viewers here. These are from our Tuesday night YouTube streams. That's right. I wasn't on this particular one when we got these audience members. But Not Dave's Brother, Derek Richard, that's his team name, is sadly Not Dave's Brother.

He is on the clock with the seventh pick. He's so dedicated. He donated to St. Jude. We love Derek Richard. Unless he auto-picks, then I will not like him anymore. Derek, are you there? You've got 10 seconds left to make your pick. We've got Aaron Jones. We've got Eckler.

We've got all the wide receivers still on the clock. Derek is not in the draft room. Come on, Derek. You're better than that. All right. I'm going to try to reach out to him. Who should we take for Derek Aaron Jones? Yeah, that's who I would normally take there.

So I think Aaron Jones is the correct pick. Okay. So that brings me now at pick number eight. It's wide receiver time for Adam Azer. I think it is. Yeah. Three receiver league. I like Austin Eckler quite a bit, but

there is a little uncertainty there and there's pretty much none with Devante Adams. So let's go ahead and take that. And also I'm pretty confident in the running back. I'll be able to get in round two. I think Mixon could be on the board. So well, it's a bit of a gamble. I even get nausea. I'd love to get nausea. That'd be

great. Christian Stafford takes get Najee. That'd be great. Christian Stafford takes Austin Eckler. Hey, if you guys wouldn't mind, Heath, can you kind of narrate? Or, Dan, I'm going to send an email to Derek and see if I can get him in the league. Yeah, I can narrate. It's now 46 seconds on the clock. And counting down, Azers Barber is on the clock. His name is Peyton, which makes sense. Oh, Azers Barber Peyton. His name is Dinesh, one of the friends on the clock. His name is Peyton, which makes sense. Oh, Azers, Barber, Peyton.

His name is Dinesh, one of the friends of the program. Peyton Barber, very good. I get it. I get it. You get it. And did someone say that Tyreek Hill went after Austin Eckler? That makes sense. This is the tough spot, right, Dan?

Yeah, I think in PPR leagues, leagues though full point like we are playing in it makes sense for me to go tarik there and i think i like the pick right after from denister for saquon barkley we just saw a report a few minutes ago maybe an hour ago that barkley was in live contact drills there's optimism he's going to be there for week one and so i think he will be playing week one and so now you can get him at 11. This is, in my mind, going to be the latest you'll ever draft Saquon Barkley. What are you talking about? His ADP is like 14 now. This season.

He practiced today. Sorry, this season. This season will be the latest. I meant this season. I meant this season will be the cheapest you'll be able to get Barkley. That's right. Yeah, I think that's probably true for the next two or three years, assuming that Barkley doesn't miss four plus games this year due to injury.

If he does his four plus games this year, then he just gets the injury prone tag. He gets the never drafting Saquon Barkley from half the league treatment. And he's just second round Saquon for at best for the rest of his life. All right. Let me recap round one. McCaffrey, Camara,

surprise there. Cook, Zeke, Henry, Kelsey, Aaron Jones, Devante Adams, Eckler, Tyreek Hill, Barkley, Nick Chubb went in round one. So we've got the team 12 went running back receiver, Chubb and Diggs.

Team 11 took Barkley and then Jonathan Taylor, which is exactly how Schneier started out a draft a few weeks ago, but he had the 12th pick and he went Barkley, Taylor. Team 11 took Barkley, then Chubb and Diggs went off the board, and then Team 11 took Taylor again. That's Azers, Barber, Payton. Antonio Gibson is the 15th pick. I'm one pick away from getting Najee Harris.

So that would be a Tyree kill, Antonio Gibson start. I think a lot of people drafting in the back. Oh, Mixon off the board. That is awesome. Najee Harris is mine. Boy, that worked out. I'm really happy about this. I'm excited about him.

I think he's going to have a role in the passing game. I think this might be the latest we're drafting Najee Harris in a long time going forward anyway. I have a couple questions for you in regard to Joe Mixon versus Najee Harris. Yeah. I think that's a really interesting debate who do you think gets more targets i actually think harris is going to get more targets yeah harris i think i think the way that roth plays these days it's

there's a lot of there's a lot of check downs there and but last year last year he threw to running backs fewer than any times at any quarterback in football. Yeah, they didn't have Najee Harris, you know, and he's... No, but they had Deontay, Juju, and Clayton. Yeah. You know what, Heath? I don't care because I think it's going to be pretty close. I think their touches are going to be very similar. I just don't...

It also was a really different system last year where they were just kind of in a spread formation with a lot of receivers on the field getting it out really quick. I'm not saying it will change that much, but even if it changed a little bit from broth being under center a little bit more play action a little bit more you know leak outs to the running back it's possible when did we start calling him a little bit of in the preseason when did we start calling him roth this is a thing now let's make a uh i always called him did i miss that what am i supposed to get big ben am i supposed to call him big ben i've always called him rottlisberger.

That's fine. You own that. Okay, so Derek Richards on the clock again. We'll make a pick for him. Aaron Jones was his first pick. Do we go Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, or a different wide receiver? Do we go Clyde Edwards, Elair, or David Montgomery?

Do we go Darren Waller? What do we do with the Aaron? It's wide receiver. It's wide receiver time. It's your preference of It's wide receiver time. It's your preference of Hopkins, A.J. Brown, or Calvin Ridley. Yeah, I gravitated to Ridley at four, so I'll take Ridley here for him.

All right, so that's Aaron Jones, Calvin Ridley. That's Team 7. Team 8 is me. Started out with Devontae Adams. So that's interesting. Aaron Jones and Calvin Ridley or Adams and Najee Harris. I'd rather have the Adams-Harris side. How about you guys?

Jones-Ridley. Jones-Ridley versus Adams and Harris. You're going Jones-Ridley? I'd go Jones-Ridley. Dan? I would definitely go with Ridley there. Actually, yeah, Ridley first. Okay, yeah.

I'm big on Ridley this year. I'm not sure you heard the question, but that's fine. I was talking about the combo. No, because you're on deck. I missed it. Heath went DeAndre Hopkins. I know. I was planning my next pick.

Heath, who was your first round pick? Travis Kelsey. Oh, all right. So Kelsey and Hopkins. This will be an interesting team. Hashtag Azerstats is on the clock. This is Christian. He is Derek Henry, and he took DK Metcalf.

All right, Dan, you're on the clock with Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, this one to me, I'm guaranteed receiver here. We're in a full-point PPR league, and I'm generally somebody who either builds zero RB or more likely what I like to build is hero RB, as some would call it, or the lone one big RB and then kind of punt RB2 or try to find, you know, different types of pass catching backs to put in RB2,

maybe a Pollard, maybe a Dylan Leight in case of injury. So I'm going receiver here, but I do like the elite tight end strategy as well. So I'm kind of hoping to get Waller on the comeback. So I'm not a big Kittle fan, but I'm going Justin Jefferson here. Love his upward trajectory. And I am a little bit worried about the A.J. Brown knee injury.

I'm not too worried yet, but the fact that he had two off-season surgeries on the knee, and it's starting to bother him a little bit already, it doesn't make me feel great. Okay. Alright, so you take Jefferson. He goes right after Metcalf. I think there's zero chance you get Darren Waller, but we will see. A.J. Brown.

Now, I do think there's a chance you could take Kittle, so we'll see if you'll do that. I won't take Kittle, no. I'm out on Kittle.J. Brown. Now, I do think there's a chance you could take Kittle. So we'll see if you'll do that. I won't take Kittle, no. Okay. I'm out on Kittle. Metcalf, Jefferson, Brown going back to back to back. That's not a huge surprise. Allen Robinson off the board.

Now, here's Dave with the Christian McCaffrey squad. And to me, you know, you got to take Waller here. It's just, especially with that run of wide receivers of Hopkins, Metcalf, Jefferson, Brown, Robinson, you got to take Waller here. It's just, especially with that run of wide receivers of Hopkins, Metcalf, Jefferson, Brown, Robinson, you got to go Waller here. Heath actually has Kittle ranked ahead of Waller. I guess I didn't realize that. Oh, he took Kittle.

There's Kittle. All right. Wow. All right, Dan. Things have changed. Especially with if this Brandon IU hamstring injury lingers into the office or the regular season I just I had really overlooked how good George Kittle was last year when he played and how completely and utterly unaffected he was by Brandon IU and Debo Samuel when they were all

three on the field absolutely and it just feels a little bit like what we did with Darren Waller before last year when they drafted Henry Ruggs and Brian Edwards and said, well, obviously Darren Waller's target share is going down. And it didn't. It went, it got bigger. Yeah. But yeah, but who's better if like best case scenario for Kittle and best case scenario for Waller, who's better?

Are we, that depends, but I think you have to decide. Do you think that George Kittle is only allowed to score five touchdowns? Or could George Kittle have a big touchdown season like Darren Waller did? I don't see. I still believe that George Kittle

could have a big touchdown season. I think, I think Trey, I think Trey Lance might destroy those plans, like being hit at the goal line and all that stuff. I don't really... George Kittle doesn't score a lot in the red zone anyway. He scores from 40 yards out because he's better at anybody than breaking tackles

as a pass catcher. But that could have some impact. I don't really think... I kind of think that Trey Lance is going to be Taysom Hill for most of this season. Yeah, but I think that could be bad. I think that could decrease the decrease the passing touchdowns for the 49ers even more than it had. So I guess that just means I feel like Kittle's going to have another five six touchdown season

I guess right? Yeah. I mean, I think if you if you believe that Kittle's just forever stuck as the low touchdown guy, then that Waller definitely has more upside. I just don't believe that. I got it. I want to recap round two and we're into round three and, uh, both tight ends are off the board.

So round two was digs, Jonathan Taylor, Gibson, Mixon, Harris, Calvin Ridley, Hopkins, Metcalf,

Jefferson Brown, Alan Robinson. Then George Kittle went 24th. So the McCaffrey manager has George Kittle. And then DeAndre Swift, very interesting pick, going ahead of David Montgomery, going ahead of Clyde Edwards-Elair, Chris Carson. It still doesn't feel like an amazing time for running backs right now,

value-wise. Maybe a couple of them. And then into round three, Swift, Darren Waller, Keenan Allen. And I will now resume the draft and get back to Dan Schneier. Who do you got so far picking fourth? You have Ezekiel, Elliott, and Jefferson?

Yes. And so here my decision basically comes down to Clyde Edwards-Alaire, who I've loved all off season and will continue to like, because he's playing in my mind, the tried and true locked in offense to be top five. You can speculate on others, but this one's going to be scoring a lot of points. We know that for sure. And I think he's going to have a bigger role in the passing game or Terry McLaurin, who I think is kind of the last of the potential target hogs in my mind left. I don't really see that happening for woods lamb, not really as well. Amari Cooper, Cooper cup, those guys I don't see as well. My, my, my concern with McLaurin is that I, I do really like Logan Thomas and I like Curtis Samuel. And I generally don't think that passing game is going to be prolific enough. So for me, I'm going to go against what I normally do and punt on RB two, essentially. And I'm going to take my second running back early here. I'm not happy. I didn't get one of those tight ends. Now I kind of regret not going Waller in round two. I know it's people say, Oh, you can't go wall in round two, but I like having a,

one of those three, really just one of those two tight ends for me, um, on my roster. Cause I'm not big on kiddo. So you want Clyde Edwards, Z layer to pair with Zeke and Justin Jefferson. The next pick was Terry McLaurin. and now, Heath, you're on the clock with Travis Kelsey and DeAndre Hopkins. I'm sorry, but can we just draft like normal people, like a little bit more like normal people? We're in the middle of the third round, and Patrick Mahomes is still there.

And Patrick Mahomes is not going to be there. For anybody else who's listening, I'm sorry that we keep doing this to you. I will take Patrick Mahomes so we can make this a little bit I will take Patrick Mahomes so we can make this a little bit more like a real draft. Okay. Well, I have a question about that Heath, because I think it's interesting. We just did a salary cap draft a couple of days ago and I got my homes for $11. No one outbid me there. And if you look at the prices for players

who are in the $11 range, 11, 10, $9 range, we're talking about players who are way lower on the board than what you're, than what's coming off now. People paid more for Lamb. People paid more for a lot of these guys. Why do you think that's the case, I guess, in the salary cap drafts versus these snakes? Are you talking about the salary cap draft that we did? Yeah, correct.

Yeah, the one we did a couple days ago. Not normal people? Yeah, the industry league. That's because it's an industry league. But for me, I will say like 11. I have Patrick Mahomes at 14. It would pain me to watch you win him for 11. I had just already spent a huge chunk of my budget on three first and second round picks,

so I couldn't do that. But I have Patrick Mahomes as the same price as Chris Carson and David Montgomery who are second and third round picks for me. I have them the same price at wide receiver as guys like Terry McLaurin and Justin Jefferson.

All right, let me recap a little bit of what's gone on here. For Derek Richard, I drafted, he had Aaron Jones and Calvin Ridley. I drafted David Montgomery for him. And then it's a little bit of a conflict of interest because I have the next pick. But I...

Well, then let me choose. That's fine, yeah. I'll choose one way. You choose the other because he's right in between our two picks. For my team, I had Najee Harris and Devante Adams, and I took Chris Carson. So, you know, look, I could have taken Robert Woods.

I could have taken CeeD woods i could have taken cd lamb but i know talking trash to you in the draft room about your selection oh thank you adam for rushing for your rb2 and gifting me robert woods wow yeah i mean look you heard i read russell wilson's comments the other day about like talking about all the weapons and the offense is like we're just gonna hand it off to cars. He's like, Carson is just locked in to being the lead running back who's also going to catch some passes on what's going to be top 10,

maybe top five offense, I think. He's such a good pick in round three, I think. Somebody sent a tweet to me in regards to our discussion with Ben Gretsch about what we should call Chris Carson in the RB dead zone, because he's always in the RB dead zone and he always outperforms his ADP. And someone suggested that his new nickname be pet cemetery. That's pretty good. I don't know that he's come back from the dead, but I get it.

That's good. All right. Let me recap round three, Swift, Waller, Keenan Allen, Clyde Edwards-Ziller, McLaurin, Mahomes, Montgomery, Carson, Woods, Lamb, Cup. Okay, you're going to see these wide receivers, Woods, Lamb, Cup, Godwin, Evans, DJ Moore. It's all going to be personal preference at this point. You shouldn't pay too much attention to ADP. Beginning in the middle of round three and going all the way to maybe the middle of round five, Adam Thielen will be in that group. Deontay Johnson, for some people, T. Higgins. It's just going to be personal preference.

Take the guy you want. But now we'll get the wide receiver run. But we're also going to get some really interesting running backs going here. Amari Cooper, the last pick of round three, and then Josh Allen, the first pick of round four. Heath, what looks strong? Tyler Lockett off the board. What looks stronger right now?

The running backs or the wide receivers? They're remaining. For me, there's one wide receiver left who I'd be really happy to get with my next pick. I feel that same way about running back.

There's one who stands out above the rest of me, and he just went off the board. James Robinson. Okay. So the best running backs available in Heath's rankings are Miles Gaskin, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders, Mike Davis, Chase Edmonds, Gus Edwards, Damian Harris, Daryl Henderson. I mean, it's solid, but round four might feel like a reach

for a lot of people, especially in PPR. Chris Godwin just went, I am on the clock. My team has two running backs and a wide receiver. Najee Harris, Chris Carson, and Devontae Adams. You know, I think I'll be able to get Hawkinson in round five. Otherwise, I'd take Andrews here. So I'm looking at wide receiver. DJ Moore, Deontay Johnson, Julio, Evans, Juju.

DJ Moore is not a bad pick here. I think that's probably where I'm going. I'm going to go with DJ Moore. Very interested to see his catches. He had 66 catches in 15 games last year, but he was a much different receiver the year before. Different quarterback now. I think a solid pick. Not necessarily a league winner.

I don't think the touchdowns will be there, but happy with DJ Moore. Okay, so I'll now make the next pick for Derek Richard because Heath is on deck. And this team here out of the seven spot is Aaron Jones, David Montgomery, and Calvin Ridley.

How do you feel about the fact that you've drafted a better team for Derek Richard than you have for yourself? Disagree. Disagree completely. But I think for Derek Richard, let's not make it too...

Give him Mark Andrews. That's the perfect pick. I think maybe... Why don't we give him Miles Gaskin and see how his team turns out? Because he's... Mark Andrews. That's the perfect pick. I think maybe, why don't we give him Miles Gaskin and see how his team turns out? Because he's, Mark Andrews is the best player

available on my board and it's a position that he doesn't have one of yet. Okay, well, I think it's a reach, but fine. The Nets just chimed in in the chat,

and Adam Azer sniping DJ Moore 17 picks before I was going to take him. Well, that's the thing. I mean, DJ Moore, Tuesday night when we did the stream on YouTube, Heath drafted for me because I couldn't make it

and took DJ Moore 37th overall, first pick of round four. And then, I'm sorry, I think that was last week. This past Tuesday, DJ Moore went to the same team in the 12 spot, but 60th overall. That was my pick, too. Yeah, good job. So like I said, it's all personal preference. And it's a big mishmash of wide receivers

who are very similar. Okay, Heath, who did you take? I took Deontay Johnson. Someone in the draft room had challenged me to go 0RB after I took Kelsey. And so why not? I've now got Patrick Mahsey and so why not i've now got patrick behomes and travis kelsey i've also got deandre hopkins and deontay johnson okay uh the next pick was mike davis and that means dan is on the clock fourth overall pick was ezekiel elliott

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Luckily, I've looked ahead and I know that two of the next three teams drafting before me on the Snake have taken tight ends already, so I'm going to take a chance here and hope that he's not taken by the last team. And I'm going to go with Mike Evans. I really need to build out my receivers right now.

I only have one, which is not, in my opinion, great, through three rounds in a full PPR league. So I'm taking another here. I'm going Mike Evans, between Mike Evans and Julio for me. But I feel like I'm going with the safer call here with Evans. Okay, that gives you Zeke, CEH, Justin Jefferson, and Mike Evans. And now we've got six more picks until Dan is up again. Okay, that gives you Zeke, CEH, Justin Jefferson, and Mike Evans. And now we've got six more picks until Dan is up again.

And this is the third overall pick. This is Fantasy Cantina. Let's take a look at this team here. So this team has Dalvin Cook, A.J. Brown, and Keenan Allen. Could take Myles Gaskin. Also, I think the quarterbacks might start coming off the board pretty soon. Myles Gaskin, Chase Edmonds, Damian Harris, Gus Edwards, Miles Sanders, Josh Jacobs, all available.

And he takes Lamar Jackson. Okay. Julio Jones gets taken by team This Is Fine. That's with the second pick. So through four rounds, This Is Fine has Kamara. This is an interesting squad. Camara, Waller, Allen Robinson, and Julio Jones.

Nothing wrong with that. This is the first pick now from Dave. Sorry, let me get his team up. I know it's obviously McCaffrey and Kittle and Swift. And now he has the next two picks. Also, I have a question for you, Adam.

By the way, this is something I was considering. When you do these drafts on our CBS room, are you using Jamie's ranks, Heath's ranks, Dave's ranks, or the projections? I don't use the projections. I toggle through all of the rankings to see who, you know. In fact, that's a very smart answer.

It's the truth. Very smart answer. It's the truth. Now, for this one, I start on Heath's rankings because he's drafting two picks ahead of me so i'd like to know kind of what he's thinking yeah that's smart and then uh i'll toggle through the others and see who they have as their highest rank guy at a certain position uh the first pick by team one was juju so now he has mcafree and swift juju his wide receiver one. It's like you don't usually see Juju go 48th overall. Other wide receivers he could have taken were

Thielen. Let's see. Heath's rankings are Anderson, Robbie Anderson, Jamar Chase, Claypool, Thielen. Yeah, so it's totally fine.

Juju would have been number one in that group, right? Yeah, he was obviously looking at my rankings because Robbie Anderson and Juju were my top two wide receivers. And he took them both. Great job. Tee Higgins off the board. Really nice turn. So that's frustrating to me because Tee Higgins just went 50th.

And I thought that the team that I took DJ Moore, I thought I would be able to get Higgins with the next pick. At least I thought he'd be an option. And he was not. So, yeah, it's like I'm sitting there with that team. I'm five picks away or something like that. And I have to choose between top five quarterback, TJ Hawkinson, and then maybe a third wide receiver with a huge upside like Chase Claypool or maybe Chase Evans. It's going to be a tough pick.

Maybe it'll be made for me. All right, here's Nathan on the clock, Fantasy Cantina, and Dan on deck. Fantasy Cantina so far has Dalvin Cook, Keenan Allen, A.J. Brown, and Lamar Jackson, and he just took Josh Jacobs. It's like, I don't care how much you don't like Josh Jacobs. Miles Sanders, Josh Jacobs in round five, Heath.

Is that really good value at this point? It's fantastic value. I actually tweeted this earlier today, and I just discovered, it just came into my head during the show. But the whole Kenyon Drake $5 million thing, I'm kind of over talking about it. Yeah, who cares?

This team paid John Brown $3 million to practice with them for a summer. They paid Jason Witten $4.75 million to back up Darren Waller last year. And he didn't do anything. Yeah, that's a great point. I am just not going to worry about that that much. I am going to take someone here with my fifth pick that has moved up my draft board. I haven't actually made the change in the rankings

yet because I've been running like crazy the last 48 hours. But I am less concerned about Adam Thielen with Irv Smith out for the year. And I think Adam Thielen now in round five is a pretty good value as a number three wide receiver. All right, so I'm going to pause the draft and talk about this a little bit. I'm also going to promote something real quick.

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Go to cbssports.com slash eBay, and you can find some things that you can bid on. Looking at this run here, this is a really good draft. I mean, people have done a great job so far. I have not seen any reach. So I actually think if you're listening at home, you will have an easier time assembling a great team than what we're dealing with here, because we are drafting with people who are really drafting like analysts. I'm not going to say that the analysts always get it right, but they haven't made any crazy picks. There's only three quarterbacks off the board, I think, so far. Is Josh Allen even off the board?

Yes. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have both been taken. Allen went to the 3-4 turn, I think. Yes, he did. So the other thing here is that we just have had an incredible run on wide receiver beginning in the middle of round three. And we've paused the draft in the middle of round five. If anybody wants to count how many have gone, you know, in the two round range, it's probably like 18 of the last 24 picks or something. Uh, so that means, you know,

coming back to the end of round five, if you have a late pick, and this is your fifth pick, if people are drafting like this in a three-receiver league, a two-receiver league, don't even worry about it. It'll be different. A three-receiver league, you might not feel great about your options, but we still have Jamar Chase, Chase Claypool, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Ayuk, Brandon Cooks, Jalen Waddell, and then you might feel like you're reaching a little bit in round five.

Dan did get his tight end. He got Kyle Pitts. Round five so far is Robbie Anderson, Higgins, Josh Jacobs, Kyle Pitts, Jerry Judy, Adam Thielen. And I don't know about you guys, but I always feel like there's a dance going on between running back and wide receiver where it's like, okay, right now the wide receivers are better. Here comes the run.

All right, now the power is shifting a little bit back toward the running backs. Here it comes. Maybe we'll get like Javante Williams, Chase Edmonds, Miles Sanders. I think they're all going to come off the board pretty quickly. Damian Harris, Gus Edwards, that might be where the value is right now. We also have Hawkinson and these elite quarterbacks still left. So, all right. With that being said, Heathath you get to make this pick for derrick richard as we take a look at his team can i get you to agree to something he has aaron jones david montgomery calvin ridley and mark andrews i would like i i think there have not been enough quarterbacks that have gone off the board and i think this is a good spot for deck but i also

think that either deck or russell wilson is going to come back in round six. Will you just agree to take one of those two if they're there in round six, and then I'll take the other player that I would take for him right now? Probably. What about Kyler? He's not in the mix.

Oh, Kyler. Kyler is my sixth quarterback. Okay. I think he's much more likely to go before those guys. He will be gone before he picks a guy. Oh, Myles Gaskin is still on the board? Dear God. That's who I'm going to take for Derek.

Okay, good, because I didn't want to have to pass him up again. They won't let me take him, so you take Myles Gaskin. Oh, I'm sorry. All right, Myles Gaskin is the pick for Derek. This is, you know, sometimes you're going to get this group of running backs, Gaskin, Sanders, Edmonds, Edwards, Harris, going in late round four or round five.

In this draft, they're going to go in late round five, round six. It's just unpredictable. So I'm on the clock with Najee Harris and Chris Carson, Devontae Adams and DJ Moore. I cannot believe how many good players are left. In fact, the running backs, the wide receivers, and the quarterbacks are too good for me to take TJ Hawkinson. I can't decide which running back I want.

It's either Chase Edmonds, Miles, no, it's Gus Edwards for me, even in full PPR. I'm going Gus Edwards there. I know he's not going to catch a lot of passes, but 56th overall, I think it's time for Gus. Man,

and Daryl Henderson, I love the running backs right now. This is tremendous. Gus scares me a bit in full PPR. He should. And Daryl Henderson's the man. I love the running backs right now. This is tremendous. All right, let's see what... Gus scares me a bit in full PPR, Adam. Are you not at all scared of that? They all scare me. Especially with Lamar Jackson likely to take some of those red zone rushing touchdowns.

Lamar Jackson had one... I don't know if I see the ceiling. Lamar Jackson had one carry inside the five last year. That's just not what he does. He scores from farther out. But they all scare me. Every one of these running backs has some type of work, but

Gus, I think, has I think he gets to 14, 15 carries a game, and I think he scores a lot of touchdowns. I agree. 14, I think, is a really good number for an estimate. That's not enough.

If he doesn't catch passes, that's not enough in a P if he doesn't catch passes that's not enough in a ppr league i mean it's enough for round six yeah well round five for me but it's it's enough just it was tough for me to pass on chase edmunds because i know edmunds is gonna have some some catches yeah i want you to go through and you'll find a couple i think you'll probably find mark ingram but i want you to go through and look at all the running backs who caught fewer than 25 passes or 30 passes or whatever and had 220 carries in a season oh and we're good well also i feel like that market are you referring to that mark andrews season i'm sorry mark ingram season where he caught like five or six receiving touchdowns a total outlier was Andrews season. Where he caught like five or six receiving touchdowns.

A total outlier. Was it that one? Yes. Didn't he have like five or six receiving? He did. But the thing is, I just,

I don't apply the same rules. No, of course not. I don't apply the same rules to the Ravens offense. I just feel like they, they're an outlier offense, you know? 100%.

But there are some rules. You have to find some rules to apply to them. They're not without rule. They're just not exactly the same rules. Alright, the next few picks after I took Edwards were Hawkinson, Kyler, and Prescott. You know, you could

just say, I'm just going to take the best player available. And if I had done that, it would have been Kyler Murray. And I'll just hopefully bank on the quarterback depth. I'm going to draft this team differently than I've ever drafted a team. Damian Harris comes off the board to end round five. And we still have the best players available,

according to Heath, are Miles Sanders, Chase Edmonds, Daryl Henderson at running back. It's not tight end time right now because all of the big six are off the board. Jamar Chase, Chase Claypool, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Ayuk. Ayuk just went. Will Fuller also went.

Will Fuller went 61st, earliest I've ever seen him go. And we've got Russell Wilson still available. Okay, so so far in round six, we've got Fuller and Ayuk. Let's take a look at this team here. This is TJ's team. He has the 10th overall pick. He is on the clock right now. Does anybody have

his roster? Yeah, good team. Kyler Murray, James Robinson, and Antonio Gibson, Tyreek Hill, and CeeDee Lamb. Okay, let's see what he does. You can't go tight end here. I would think that he would go wide receiver, but it might be too hard to pass up the running back value. Yeah, that's the dilemma.

I really want Chase Claypool as my number three receiver. Are you wishing now, with the running backs that are coming back, and there goes Miles Sanders, they may not all come back, but now that you see that either Chase Edmonds or Daryl Henderson's going to be there in round six, are you wishing you'd taken Hawkinson or a quarterback?

I think so. I think Kyler. Yeah, I think if I had Kyler and then, you know, I did not expect Chase Edmonds to be there. Maybe he won't. Henderson doesn't excite me nearly as much as, oh, Russell Wilson goes. And the thing is, like, I'm just so excited about Chase Edmonds

that even though this is now the fourth running back I'm going to have and I'm passing up a breakout like Jamar Chase or Claypool. This is a three. Yes, it is. It is a three receiver league. If I were playing like best ball, I'd take a receiver here. I'm going to take Chase Edmonds. This is a best ball pick if you're doing this.

You're taking a bench running back when you don't have quarterback, tight end, or your third wide receiver filled in a PPI. Right, so tight end's not even an option here. Quarterback's not really an option either because Russell Wilson just went. I took Edmonds because if I were truly playing this league out, running back depth to me is the most valuable thing in fantasy.

I believe I could make a trade if my running in fantasy. I believe I could make a trade if my running backs hit. I think I could make a trade and upgrade a wide receiver. I would not want to use whatever roster I'm going to end up with. I probably wouldn't, you know, want to go too far into the season with it. I would be looking to make a trade, but my team right now is Najee Harris, Chris Carson, Chase Edmonds, Gus Edwards, Devante Adams, and DJ Moore. You know, I know it's unusual, but I just liked Edmonds too much. Did you take Claypool for him, or did he join the draft?

I think he must have joined the draft. Oh, there we go. Derek is in. That's disappointing because that was my next pick. He took Chase Claypool. Good for Derek. I've got my RB1. You took your first running back, Daryl Henderson. All right. Well, this fell nicely to me with two running backs off the board before me.

I'm looking at a receiver here no matter what. I need to fill two more in my mind. Flexible should and will always be a receiver for me in full point PPR. I don't love what's left at receiver here, to be honest. Claypool stood out above me. I'm debating between Jamar Chase, Tyler Boyd. For me, Chenault. Those are the big three here. I'm going to go upside debating between Jamar Chase, Tyler Boyd, for me, Chennault. Those are the big three here. I'm going to go upside here with Jamar Chase. I'm not totally convinced by it,

but this is pretty late for him. I mean, 6'9". I know he's fallen to that recently, but I feel like right now the upside here is better than those guys with what I would be getting with Boyd and Chennault. and still a Jaguars offense. I'm not certain we'll be too prolific in the passing game. Do you guys think that, that what I did was really just not advisable taking a fourth running back before a quarterback or a third wide receiver in this three receiver league?

It's not something I would do ever in a, in a PPR league. It's different. I'm more open to it if it's not PPR, if it's it's not something i would do ever in a in a ppr league it's different i i'm more open to it if it's not ppr if it's half ppr i would be more open to it if you had gone i think if you'd gone wide receiver wide receiver to start i do have davante adams though i mean he's kind of like christian mcafree and he counts as one-and-a-half wide receivers. But I guess it's more, forget about taking the running back, it's more like building depth to trade. Just taking best player available and thinking,

okay, I'm going to be active during this season. I'm going to turn this into something better than I could have on draft day. If you're going to do that, running back is a position to do it with. That's the easiest position to trade in season. But we see it year after year, kind of what came about with the running back dead zone. A lot of these guys who look like they're going to be tradable assets right now

won't ultimately be tradable assets. I'm not saying that's going to happen to you with any of these guys or all these guys, but it's certainly in play for guys like, in my mind, like Miles Gaskin and Chase Edmondsmunds people you didn't take casken but uh just players like or did you get gaskin no i did not i took edmunds i took gus edwards yeah yeah but i i think you'll be able to trade um chase edmunds or gus edwards for i don't know somebody like a chase claypool or jamar chase because you never know man like there's one running back injury and all

of a sudden, maybe I can get more than that. Early on, sure. Yeah. Plus, it's not like wide receiver's done here. We still have Brandon Cooks, Jalen Waddell, Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Kenny Galladay. You know I like Devontae Smith.

I can get him as my number three receiver. All right. I'm sorry. I missed some of your picks. Let's recap round seven so far. Round seven. Aaron Rodgers, Raheem Mostert, Cortland Sutton, Dan took LaVisca Chennault,

76th overall. Justin Herbert then went. Heath took Melvin Gordon as his RB2. By the way, when did Javante Williams go? I must have missed him. Yeah, he went right after I took Daryl Henderson. Ah, okay. Just before Jamar Chase. Sorry, he went right after I took Daryl Henderson. Ah, okay. Just before Jamar Chase.

Sorry, you can't take your fifth running back. Damn it. You know what? This is why I shouldn't look at Heath's rankings. Because Javante Williams was staring at me, and Heath has a Barry that I didn't even notice. How about that? I do think there's been some interesting things that have come out about this whole

Melvin Gordon, Javante Williams situation. With Teddy Bridgewater talking about how he reminds him of Alvin Kamara and then Benjamin Albright who I think knows the Broncos just about as well as anybody saying that he still sees Melvin Gordon as the clear lead running back for Denver

and I just think about like Alvin Kamara as a rookie was awesome but he averaged six yards per carry and 10 yards per catch and scored once every 10 touches. Um, he had like 700 rushing yards that year. He also didn't do anything until they traded Adrian Peterson.

Uh, but that would cast Melvin Gordon in the Mark Ingram role. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's weird. That's kind of what I expect is, is that Mark Ingram role for Yeah, right. I mean, it's weird. That's kind of what I expect is that Mark Ingram role

for Melvin Gordon this year where early in the year he's maybe a high-end number two running back and even throughout the year he's a low-end number two running back unless he gets hurt. Okay.

Which I think you'll really like in round seven. Yeah, you will. All right. I just took Tom Brady. So you took Melvin Gordon. Derek took Antonio Brown. I took brady gambling that one of the receivers i like will come back to me so eight picks from now and now we wait for christian so let's take a look at these teams as they

make their picks christian come on christian i'm going to give another minute here sorry let's get christian's team up. Is this Christian's? We have two Christians in the league today. Well, probably more than that, but two people named Christian. Russell Wilson, Joe Mixon, Austin Eckler, Robert Woods, Chris Godwin,

and TJ Hawkinson. I haven't seen a team I didn't like so far. Kudos to everyone. It looks like Christian is not around. Dan, you want to make this pick for him? He's got Wilson at QB. He's got Mixon, Eckler, Woods, Godwin, and Hawkinson.

So he doesn't need a quarterback or a tight end. He needs a third receiver and a flex. I'm going to go receiver again here. Again, PBR League, I value it the most. I don't know if I can make... Am I allowed to make this pick? Tell me who to take. Oh, never mind.

He did it. I'm going to upside Jalen Waddell. He took Jacoby Myers. He took Jacoby Myers. With the exact, like the complete bizarro Jalen Waddell. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Okay, let's go to our next team here.

TJ is on the clock. TJ just took Kenny Galladay. So TJ has Kyler Murray, James Robinson, and Antonio Gibson. Tyreek Hill, CeeDee Lamb, Kenny Galladay, and Miles Sanders. Another team. I mean, it's very good. Very good. All right, let's take a look at this next team here

from Azers Bar payton very good like that dac prescott saquon barkley and jonathan taylor like just off the bat i just love it so far uh cooper cup tyler lockett brandon iuke that's really good no issues here and he just took michael carter that's interesting who could he have Yeah, running back sucks right now. I mean, he should have taken Trey Sermon. Trey Sermon. You got the high-end backups.

You got the Bills guys. You got Ronald Jones and Fournette. Running back sucks now. Michael Carter wasn't a bad pick amongst running backs. Christopher Cooper is up. His team is Mac Attack. Let's see. He's had the 12th overall pick. And we are at the end of round 7 here. Pick 84.

Josh Allen, Nick Chubb, Damian Harris, Stefan Diggs, Amari Cooper, and Will Fuller. This team makes me a little nervous. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Fuller was probably a reach.

And he just took Jonu Smith to probably another reach. You just don't have to take Jonu Smith, 84th overall. You definitely could get him later. It's not my least favorite team so far, but it's not my favorite team. Yeah, mine's probably your least favorite team, I guess. I mean, you're still receiving an incomplete. Yeah, mine's probably your least favorite team, I guess. I mean, we don't... Yours is...

You're still receiving an incomplete. Yeah, I'm about to get my third receiver, and I think you'll like it more after that. All right, so Mac Attack is back with the 85th pick now. So he has Chubb, Harris at running back. Chubb and Damian Harris at running back. He has Cooper, Diggs, and Fuller at receiver, and he just took Jalen Waddell as his flex.

Johnnie Smith and Josh Allen on his team. All right, let's go to pick number 86, Azers Barber. We just looked at this team. Yeah, I'm not going to look at it again. Moments ago. He took Noah Fant. That is a really good pick, and you are going to have a really bad tight end.

Me? That's fine. I don't care. A really bad tight end. Me? That's fine. I don't care. A really bad tight end. Let's see one tight end who stands out. Yeah, I mean, I still like Tyler Higbee. Oh, Logan Thomas is still on the board. Yeah. You're not going to take Logan Thomas.

I'm not going to take Logan Thomas. I'd rather get a high-end receiver. I've learned enough. I've learned enough about tight ends. There are five good ones every year, so I'm not passing up a wide receiver that I think would be a star. I mostly agree with that.

I'm just, I regret to inform you that there are no longer any high-end wide receivers left. Oh, I disagree completely. First of all, there's Michael Thomas. Secondly, there's Devontae Smith. Those are the only two. If they're gone, I might, and they won't be gone, I might take, because Dallas Goddard just went. So Logan Thomas is going to last forever.

There goes Michael Thomas. All right, yeah. Really excited about Devante Smith as my number three receiver, 89th overall. I was a lot more excited before the new Eagles coaching staff basically told us that they're going to distribute targets like the old Eagles coaching staff. No, don't believe the hype.

They traded up to draft Devante Smith. Like, they're not... No. I mean, Nick Sirianni does come from a place that is generally amongst the leaders in tight end targets here. Is that true? The Colts?

Yes. Last year, they couldn't keep tight ends healthy. They throw it to four different tight ends. Eh, whatever, man. And Devante Smith ton of running backs. He's so good. Just by the way he was getting open in one preseason game, he is going to be open a lot.

He's going to catch a ton of passes. I almost missed last year when we didn't have preseason games. Me too. We didn't have to. I am just absolutely over the moon that I was able to get Trey Sermon here. That is incredible. A perfect fit for me with Melvin Gordon. And so I started off with no running backs in the first five rounds.

And I now have Daryl Henderson, Melvin Gordon, Trey Sermon. I don't think you should be too excited about that. I am pretty happy with it. His team is Mahomes, Henderson, Gordon, DeAndre Hopkins, oh, Travis Kelsey, DeAndre Hopkins, Adam Thielen, and Deontay Johnson. You do have that habit of overlooking or minimizing the best part of people's teams. It is funny, yeah.

What a snipe. It's like I just kind of look at running backs and wide receivers. It's like, Oh, he also has the number one tight end of the number one quarterback. That's not a big deal. Uh, who,

who's night? Oh, man, you were going to take Marcos. Calloway. I had Calloway on my queue for being picked at the end of round eight. That's generally where you can get him right now at round eight, or else you're not going to get him.

I did not think it was going to happen. And then, cause he's further down the ranks, obviously boom, sniped right in front of me. So now I have to figure this one out on the fly. And I will be going here with a player who I think can be kind of a Marcus Calloway light as potential target hog from his receiver core,

especially with the T.Y. Hilton injury. I'm going Michael Pittman, a player who I really liked in the last draft class. He felt like a Vince Jackson light to me, and I think he could be a solid fit there and get a ton of targets. So Heath, where are we in the draft? We're 94 picks in now. Give me the landscape. Yeah, this is the eighth round. It's the 10th pick. We are three picks away from the 8-9 turn turn it's just barely over the midway point we have slightly fewer picks remaining than picks that i've been made we only have 14 rounds i think of this draft so we're way past the midway point uh but you know what's good right now who's going to come off the board what can people expect in their drafts at this range this is a mixture of upside uh fan

favorites that get reached on a little bit and the guys that probably should have already been picked but nobody wants to be the guy who drafts them like at the top those guys are usually at the top of my rankings uh brandon cooks debo samuel uh james connor marvin jones dj chark remember him like this is where all of those guys are and when you make those picks sometimes they work out very well but no one is going to like them on draft day you take someone like curtis samuel mike williams micole hardman elijah, Terrace Marshall. They can get much more excited about the potential upside of those types of players. Corey Davis went 94th, and then Jalen Hurts went 95th.

Dave said it's not working. It's not working? I guess he's frozen up. Okay. Let's make some picks for him then. Oh, he just picked Debo Samuel, 96th. And now he is on the clock to start round nine. I'll recap

round eight for everybody. Round eight was Waddle, Fant, Goddard, Michael Thomas, Devante Smith, A.J. Dillon, Trey Sermon, Marquez Calloway, Michael Pittman, Corey Davis, Jalen Hurts, and Debo Samuel.

So that's roundman, Corey Davis, Jalen Hurts, and Debo Samuel. So that's round eight. Corey Davis going 94th overall is a lot more logical than what people were saying right after that big game a few weeks ago. He went round six yesterday in our analysts

draft-a-thon league. So it's not just a Twitter thing. It's not just a non-fantasy football world thing. It's real. Let's take a look at the roster grid. Dan is one of two teams that does not have a starting quarterback. I'm sure you're fine with that.

I am one of three teams that does not have a tight end. So we'll see if logan thomas makes it back to me if he does i will grab him and uh james con ronald jones and james connor just went and look up there goes logan thomas so good finally logan thomas two and i'm actually going to hear this is an interesting spot i feel like i do need to start building out a little bit of running back depth. I don't like to here because for a lot of reasons, but a lot of the guys I liked have been coming off the board. AJ Dillon was someone I was targeting. So I'm going to go a little further down the rankings for a PPR play that I just really liked this year with

Mac Jones coming into the picture. I'm going to go with James White here. I know it seems like it's a little bit early. It's always going to feel a little bit early here. You're taking him over guys like Jamal Williams, Zach Moss, who I just don't see too much upside for in the red zone there or really anywhere. Kenyon Drake, not on that train either. The only other one I considered here was Sonny Michel, who's an interesting one with more upside probably than anyone I mentioned.

But in full-point PPR with Mac Jones in the mix, I like James White here a lot. All right, so Heath, you have Daryl Henderson and you went zero RB. So in your mind, what's the better thing to do here? Take Sony Michelle and lock up the backfield, especially since this is one where some people think Sony Michelle might end up starting or get a piece of another backfield and give yourself more upside. I would prefer to get a piece of another backfield and give yourself more upside. I would prefer to get a piece of another backfield and give myself more upside, but I still don't have what I would consider

to be my flex. There is a player, it's round nine, and there's a player who I think should be going two rounds earlier than this. I understand why everyone's scared to death of him. I know you're a big fan. Don't do it. I'm going to take Brandon Cook. Damn you! This has been a Don't do it. Don't do it. I'm going to take Brandon Cook. Damn you!

This has been a brutal round for me. Logan Thomas, Tyler Higby, Brandon Cooks, all off the board. The one good thing... Not quite as brutal when you had that mock a couple weeks ago when you did the back-to-back round 7-8 Texans. Do you remember that one? It was like Cooks and Davidsons. David Johnson, I think, at the time. He was

considered a potential starter there. That one's painful. I'm pretty sure it was rounds eight and nine. But thank you for bringing that up. Brandon Cook's off. I think it was seven, eight. I think it was seven, eight as well. And I wasn't even on the show.

I just heard. It was either, I'm telling you, it was either six, seven or eight, nine. Cause I, I had an early, I had the first pick up. I'm pretty sure. Might've been six, seven. I hope it was eight, nine. DJ Chark selected. And that brings up my team.

I'm not going to take a tight end because everybody has a tight end now, so I'm going to wait at least a round. Some people will take backups. Good choice. Lean into it, Al. Now it's just best available player. Michael Gallup I like quite a bit here. We're at pick 104. Let's see the best running backs.

Maybe I'll take one of those swing. Well, Sonny Michelle would be actually pretty interesting. Jamal Williams. You need to make sure you build some more running back depth. It's just taking best player available here, buddy. AJ Dillon's off the board. Tony Pollard. Who's my first round pick?

It was Adams. I'm going to take Michael Gallup. I feel like that would get a seal of approval from Heath. Yeah, I think that's a good pick there. Okay. All right. So we probably,

we maybe we'll do, we'll do 10 rounds on the air and we'll call it a day. And we are almost done with round nine. So we'll get you 120 picks on the air and build our teams. The rest will be backup quarterbacks and the like. And we'll see what TJ does here with... And Jamal Williams hasn't gone yet. That was another one in our draft yesterday.

I think Jake Seeley took him in round seven before me. And Jake, when we talked to him later in the night, is very excited about Jamal Williams, whether DeAndre Swift is healthy or not. Jamal Williams. Can you be excited about both DeAndre Swift and Jamal Williams this year? I asked you because I know you might be the one.

No, it's ridiculous, Dan. It's ridiculous. It's like, this is the Lions. We had three people from Sportsline come on and say, hammer the under on the Lions. Five wins. They're not even going to get five freaking wins. They're horrible.

And there's way too much excitement, fantasy-wise, about Lions players this year, in my opinion. There's only excitement about three of them. So that's probably too much. I completely agree with you. Yeah, but, you know, go There's only excitement about three of them, so that's probably too much. Go ahead. I want to hear from Heath, because I know Heath is big on at least Swift. I'm not so sure. Williams as well, potentially. I have actually drafted Jamal

Williams on more teams than I have drafted DeAndre Swift. I think you can't because of cost and because they don't have any wide receivers. I agree about the cost. I understand traditionally why being a bad team is bad for running backs. I don't necessarily think,

and I don't remember the last time Anthony Lynn had a winning record with the Chargers, and their running backs never seemed to suffer from it. They won five games in 2019 and had two fantastic running backs. When your offense is going to funnel 33% of your targets to running backs, being behind does

not hurt you. I don't know if they had a terrible offense that year, though. They may have won five games, but I guarantee their offense was better than what the Lions are going to have this year. Honestly, as much as I don't really like Jamal Williams, you get him a hundred something overall, there's no downside to that. There's only upside.

It's a great, it's a good pick. I wouldn't use the term there's only upside. I feel the ceiling is capped. I feel like there's upside on him beating out his ADP, but how much can he beat out that ADP? It depends if Swift is healthy. Swift has trouble staying healthy. Yes, agreed.

If Swift is injured, but you can say that about a lot of these situations. He's already injured, but yeah, go ahead. Do you remember the 2019 Chargers? No, I don't. Phillip Rivers threw 23 touchdowns and 20 interceptions. Where do they rank in scoring? I haven't got that far yet,

but they were definitively not good offensively. They were 21st in points for I guarantee that's better than what the Lions will be this year. The Lions will not be 21st. That's really not that bad. Now. Sometimes there are defensive scores that factor into that like the Patriots

a few years ago had a bunch of them, but I doubt that's the case. It's it's you know, it's rare. I'm going to take Jamal Williams. I might take Sonny Michelle. Or Kenyon Drake. The point

I was trying to make was I understand the logic behind being worried about the offense. I don't think it matters as much when Anthony Lynn's running the offense. I don't think it matters as much when Anthony Lynn's running the offense and you don't have any wide receivers. I took Tony Pollard, by the way. I said to myself, look, there's Jamal Williams, there's Bill's guys. I don't know if Singletary is still available, but there's Zach Moss, there's Kenyon Drake. Who's the guy who could win? Because I have four running backs that are

start worthy. Who's the guy that could win me the league? And that's Tony Pollard. It's not Sonny Michelle. It's not Jamal Williams. They're more usable as flexes. I don't need that for my teams. I have, I'm running back heavy. So what do you think?

And you may not have heard about it. What do you think about the fact, and I think it's JJ Zacharias has done the research, that running backs who are backing up first or second round draft picks are not usually the league-winning running backs in the later rounds or the waiver wire. Yeah, Chris talked about that. It's usually running backs whose starters are in the mid-range.

Because they're more likely to lose their job? I think that's true, yes. That's pretty interesting. I'm sure it's not really a theory. I'm sure it's true. No, it's not a theory. It's well-researched. I guess I just don't feel like Sonny Michel has every down-back potential,

nor do I think he has the potential to really carry a full workload and stay healthy. I think most likely outcome is Michel is better than Pollard, but if it's just an upside play, I'd still take Pollard, but if it's just an upside play,

I'd still take Pollard. But no, it's a good point, Heath. It's a good point. I was just thinking like the guys that are still left that would fit the other side of that would have been Jamal Williams and Kenyon Drake, Zach Moss, Leonard Fournette. Like those guys are all in situations where there's probably more paths to them being the starter okay yeah and they just went you took uh you took and i just took

drake's and you took drake you know it's a good case it's a strong case right there i think there's also some evidence i'm and now i'm not i don't want to quote anyone on this because i'm not exactly sure where i don't remember where i saw it, but in these ambiguous backfields, the one where we're not so sure who's going to be the starter, I believe it's the, usually the, the value is with the guy who's drafted after the, the second one in ADP. Is that correct? Does anyone, has anyone seen this ambiguous running back theory? I have, but I don't know for sure. Okay. I'm not even sure I pulled the last thing I said correctly. Hey, by the way, Heath, there are...

Let's see. Looking at top 12 running backs, we have had a running back finish top 12 in PPR. Last year, we had a running back finish top 12. It was on the 30th ranked offense.

The year before that, 26. The year before that, 22nd. The year before that, 32nd. 2016, 29th. So for the last five years, we've had one running back finish top 12 on an offense that ranked 26th or worse in scoring. I have talked about this.

It doesn't matter as much as it used to. If you are a running back on a bad offense, but you dominate touches and are involved in the passing game, it really doesn't matter. So just keep that in mind. James Robinson was the example last year. David Montgomery has been an example. He was

on a 23rd ranked offense last year, so it's not a huge deal. The key factor there, though, I think that you said, Adam, is that you also need to have some involvement in the passing game. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that's going to do it for our show. I'll recap round 10. We're into round 11.

Let me get round 10 up. Okay, it was Savan Ahmed, Mike Williams, Mikko Hardman, Darnell Mooney, Tony Pollard, Mike Kosicki, Jamal Williams, Terrace Marshall, Kenyon Drake, Marquise Brown, Elijah Moore, and Curtis Samuel. We might as well do 11 rounds.

These are stats just sniped me hard. With Tyson Williams. Tyson. What a run of snipings. Justin Fields in round 11. Sonny Michel, Leonard Fournette, Zach Moss, Tyson Williams. Did Justin Fields go ahead of Joe Burrow?

Ryan Tannehill is still on the board? Okay, timeout. Ryan Tannehill is still on the board. Remember my normal people rant from earlier in the draft? I'm taking Ryan Tannehill if he comes back to me here. Well, you should. Yeah, I think I would like to see how many quarterbacks and running backs you can draft.

I just like, what am I going to do? What am I going to take another handcuff? I'm going to take JD McKissick. Well, like your number three wide receiver is either a rookie that's practiced like six times or the third wide receiver on the Cowboys. Oh yeah. So I'll take,

I mean, I guess I could take Henry rugs here. That would be a good pick, but you could, you could buy into the Devante Parker back at practice. I, I find, I think Sterling Shepard would be the right pick here because that gives you

a little bit of floor. You've got the upside covered. All right, fine. I'll take Sterling Shepard. You the right pick here because that gives you a little bit of floor. You've got the upside covered. Yeah. All right, fine. I'll take Sterling Shepard. You're right. Couldn't the same be said? I have a question with the card stack.

There's another player on the board who I think fits a little. I'm curious what you guys think about this. There's a player on the board who I think fits a little bit better into what Heath just broke down as the floor type receiver pick here. And that's Jarvis Landry. I'm not sold that Odell Beckham is going to be the number one target in that offense now. And I feel like Landry has consistently garnered a ton of targets with Baker.

And I feel like to me, he's almost a safer play with shepherd, but no one likes Landry this year. He only comes off the board so late. He came off the board after shepherd few others. What are your guys' thoughts on Landry in that offense? I, I don't really know. I, I have a speculation, but I don't really know I I have a speculation but I don't

really want to say it out loud um because like first off I think it's such a low volume pass offense and with Beckham there it's just hard for me to to find a projection that makes Landry look like someone I want to draft. And I don't know that he didn't have very much upside when he was in his early 20s. I don't see upside with him. Right.

But I don't know, what was his floor last year? He averaged 55 yards a game and caught less than five passes a game. I have zero interest in him when Beckham's healthy. Zero. When Beckham gets hurt in week four and misses the rest

of the season, he's going to be a number a borderline number two, three wide receiver in PPR. He's a handcuff basically. He's going to be a must roster. I think Landry would be a must start

if Beckham's out. Obviously, I'm kidding about Beckham playing four games and missing the year, but Beckham's probably, you'd have to say, the most injury-prone wide receiver in football, if not Will Fuller. I don't know.

Probably Will Fuller. Beckham's got... Beckham played 16 games a couple years ago. He played the entire year with the sports hernia, basically. He's really right up there. He's had multiple lower body injuries in the same area. Yeah.

So, like, last year, the yards were so bad. But look at the catches in the last five games of the season for Landry. 8-8-6-7-5. And he's caught three touchdowns in those games. So I think, you know, he's basically jarvis landry once beckham gets hurt but god before that no i don't think so sorry i heath was kind of like like a little wishy-washy on it i just wanted to bring the heat i just wanted to bring the heat we're gonna do this whole damn draft i don't i don't totally see how shepherd is that all that much different from that

but but i do get it no shepherd is, but he doesn't really low volume, but he's on a really low volume pass offense. Oh, because Evan Ingram is going to be, I think Evan Ingram is probably getting up on IR. It's not just that Evan Ingram is going to be back. Daniel Jones has doesn't average many pass, has not averaged many passing yards a game in his entire 32 game sample size. Almost. Oh, he was injured for a few games.

I'm saying Evan Ingram is going to be out at the start of the year. I anticipate, I anticipate. I mean, we don't know anyone. Sterling Shepard is the only confirmed giant that's playing week one right now, right? It seems like Gallaudet. They all practice today, though. They all practice in full pads today. Gallaudet, Rudolph, Slayton.

Let's recap our teams here. Schneier, you had the fourth pick, so go for it. Wow, that was a mispronunciation of my last name. Normally I wouldn't care, but the one time I mispronounced yours, it was a whole big thing. So we're going to take my team right now and go over it. There you go. You got it, Keith.

He calls you Keith, dude. Anyway, back to my team. I stand by that was just me rolling off the last word that ended in a k into into heath that was five words before you said heath so you know no no that's not true run the tape back let's move on my team right now ezekiel elliott first then i went second round i got uh my favorite player here in this range justin jefferson then third round i was expecting the pound receiver but quite clyde edwards hilaire is there. He's one of my favorite values in the draft. Got him.

Fourth round came back with Mike Evans. So now I have Zeke, Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, Jefferson Evans. And I finally got my guy the first time I was able to draft him this whole season. Kyle Pitts in round five. I've seen him go off the board in round four too often. So it wasn't possible any of those other times. After that, hold on. It's my pick.

So let me make this pick first. And I'm going to go with Matthew Stafford, who I think is going to do well in that McVay offense, my first quarterback. Then after that, I filled out the rest of my roster by taking Jamar Chase as my wide receiver three, LaVisca Chennault as my flex, and then some bench guys, James White, Kenyon Drake, Michael Pittman, Zach Mawson. now finally, Matthew Stafford is my starting cue. Stafford, Zeke, CEH, Jefferson,

Evans, and Chase, Kyle Pitts, Chenault at Flex with James White, Kenyon Drake, Pittman, and Moss on the bench. Solid, solid squad. Heath, your team from the sixth spot. Yes, I have Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. Yeah, but who cares? What else do you have?

I have DeAndre Hopkins, Deontay Johnson, and Adam Thielen. I feel pretty good about those wide receivers. And then my running backs are a bit of an adventure. Daryl Henderson,

Melvin Gordon, Trey Sermon, Justin Jackson, Jamal Williams, and Tony Jones. I also have Brandon Cooks in my flex. This is a zero RB team. And I am very, very comfortable entering a full PPR week one with this roster. What you have to decide, listeners, going into your draft,

is can you feel okay with these kind of running backs? Do you feel okay with your ability to go get somebody else to start? Do you think Melvin Gordon's going to start early in the year and Trey Sermon could be really big mid-year? If you don't,

if you don't feel comfortable with these running backs, just don't, if you don't feel comfortable with these running backs, just don't do zero RB. I wonder when you took Thielen if you had taken Miles Gaskin instead.

I'm with Heath for going Thielen there, though, because it was still a starting spot for Heath at that point, and he made a great case with Irv out. This is a great case for Thielen being a better value right now because his ADP is not going to move much if you're drafting this weekend and we're drafting today. I love that case he made personally,

and it was still a starting spot at the time. So Heath's team is Mahomes, Darrell Henderson, Melvin Gordon, Hopkins, Deontay Johnson, Adam Thielen, Travis Kelsey, Brandon Cooks, and then nothing but running backs on his bench. He's going to make one more pick here. But he's going to win quarterback and tight end almost every week. He's going to have an edge there, especially tight end. And then he's going to have a lot.

I feel like he's going to compete or have an edge at all those receiver spots. So, yeah, he'll lose a little bit at running back week to week, but we'll see. I mean, a lot of these projected backs right now that are going to give us edges that we drafted high, I don't know if they'll be that way by mid-season point. My team out of the sixth, no, the eighth spot, excuse me, was Tom Brady at quarterback, Najee Harris, Chris Carson at running back, Devontae Adams, DJ Moore, and Devontae Smith at wide receiver.

I don't really want to tell you about the rest of my team. Let's just leave it with the good vibes of those. Let's really focus on the rest of your team for like an entire episode next week where we just talk about where things went wrong. No, this team is fine. So again, it's Brady and Harris and Carson are running back. Adams, Moore, Devontae Smith. Gus Edwards is my flex.

Truth be told, I think Chase Edmonds or Sterling Shepard might be my flex in week one. It depends on the matchups. Don't you dare say that. You just took Gus Edwards in the fifth round and you're not sure you can start in week one? Well, I like Chase Edmonds, so I took one round later. It depends on the matchups. I'll play the matchups. Full PPR.

Gerald Everett is my tight end and I took one round later. It depends on the matchups. I'll play the matchups. Full PPR. Gerald Everett is my tight end and I took Evan Ingram. I just took those with my last two picks that aren't DSTs. But I think the strength of my team is I have four good running backs and I will trade one of them for Kyle Pitts. When Schneier doesn't have a good

RB2, I'll say, hey, you give me Kyle Pitts, I'll give you Chase Edmonds. Also throw in, uh, you throw in something else because that's how I do trades. And you know, my team will look a lot better. So there you go.

Yeah. I'm going to take chase Edmonds for Clyde heads, Edwards, Hilaire's who's currently my RB too. And I'll give you pits too. Why not? There you go. Uh,

that is it for today's show. I want to thank an awesome group of guys, uh, for drafting. Really appreciate that. And we had a really solid draft. And no, these results will not be posted. And there is no video on this either.

So you just have to take our word for it. Joe Burrow just went 155th overall. Love that value. Why don't you just post the results, Adam? Can I do that or no? You could. But it's just more work I was trying to give you. Why can't I just post a link to it and make it a public lead? Can I do that?

I was just saying write an article. I'm not writing an article about it. That is just not happening. But Schneier will. All right, we'll talk to you all later. Thanks for listening, everybody. This is Fantasy Football Today. Got a mailbag coming out.

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