Fantasy Football Today - Live Salary Cap Draft! (08/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 15, 2021

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. We are live. If you are watching us on Tuesday afternoon, if you're listening to the podcast on Sunday, well, get ready for, I don't know, an hour and a half, two hours of fun, salary cap draft talk here on Fantasy Football Today.

Adam Azer, Dave Richard here. We're actually already underway. As I do this intro, I'm missing out on the opportunity to win Christian McCaffrey for $34 out of $100. No, no, no, no, no. I took it back because you weren't the only one who wasn't ready. Okay, okay. Everybody's going to get a fair crack at whoever I decide to nominate. I did not

want McCaffrey nominated. I'm going to go in a different direction. We are underway, and that's how this process works for those that are new to salary cap drafts. You set an order. You nominate a player. Everybody bids.

Whoever has the highest bid after a certain amount of time gets the player on their team. You move on to the next nomination. I'm going to introduce our guests. Chris Rabon of Action Network is here. Chris, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.

Good luck to you today. I intend to do very well um you're you should be intimidated okay drew davenport i don't think chris was intimidated so uh i'm not even gonna try on you drew welcome to fantasy football today thank you thank you so much for having me this is exciting drew is like a like a auction or salary cap draft mvp i'm a dollar for every time we use the word auction today now that's two for me drew is auction or salary cap draft mvp i'm a dollar for every time we use the word auction today now that's two for me drew is like the salary cap draft guru at football guys yeah well i'm curious to see how he works here let me give his twitter handle it's a rumor at drew fbg salary

caps now it's at drew fbg auctions at drew fb Auctions. That's his Twitter handle. Chris Rabon is at Chris Rabon. R-A-Y-B-O-N. And Joe Dolan is here from FantasyPoints.com at FG underscore Dolan. What's up, Joe? Hi, guys. It's fun to be here. This is going to be my first...

It's going to happen, but my first salary cap draft of the year. Do a little bit of a mock here. Get myself comfortable. See if I can execute my strategy this year. I'm really fired up. Joe was on a podcast that I did with Ross Tucker. Actually, I think it's maybe two years in a row, but definitely recently we got on one.

Smart guy. Knows what he's talking about. Definitely knows his stuff. Good website that he's on. And we'll see how he does here in the salary cap draft. All right. Knows what he's talking about. Definitely knows his stuff. Good website that he's on. We'll see how he does here in the salary camp draft. All right. We shall see. We should get started. Yeah, let's do it. Dave, you're up first. We have to

start one quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers, a tight end, a flex, a DST, and we have five bench spots. No super flex. It is a three receiver league. It is full PPR, and we have five bench spots. No super flex. It is a three-receiver league. It is full PPR, and we have $100 budgets. Okay? So, Michael Thomas.

Are you kidding? What a stupid person to dominate first, Michael Thomas. That's right. Get those players you don't want out of the way. Get them out of there. This is somebody I don't want to spend up for. Oh, I thought you might get them for $1. All right. Let's see what he goes for.

$2 bid here. Okay, $2 right now for Dan Schneier. And sold for $2. Okay, I thought he'd go for a little bit more than that. You know, Drew, I like market setters early. I like when people nominate Christian McCaffrey so I can have a general idea of what the elite players are going to go for. Michael Thomas, that did not help at all.

What are your nomination strategies, Drew? Well, I think you said it right there. I like to set the market, but I also like to try to define my path about where I'm going to go in the auction, or excuse me, in the salary cap draft with getting my guys out there early so I know which path I'm going to be taken. I love what's happening right now. Jamie just nominated the Rams for a dollar. Heath nominated the Ravens for a dollar. People aren't going to bid most likely $2 in a $100 league for any DST. So if you want your DST, go ahead and get them with a $1 bid. Okay, let me ask you guys. Let's go to Chris.

Chris, do you nominate players you want, or do you nominate players that you think other people will bid a lot on, or what? Are you talking to me? Yes, yes. Yeah, I like the defensive strategy, but I tend to bid on some guys I don't want early just to kind of get a feel of how everybody's spending. All right.

So this one's the first interesting one. Sorry, Dave. Ezekiel Elliott. He's right now at $24. Dave with the $24 bid. This is Zeke. Yeah, look, he's a top five pick for a lot of people. $25 right now for Zeke.

Chris Towers. Dave, what do you think? $26? No. $25's enough. Chriske. Chris Towers. Dave, what do you think? $26? No. $25 is enough. Chris can have them. And we'll see if that actually begins to set a marketplace for running backs. We'll see how many go above $25.

And obviously the majority are going to go below $25. But I'll be curious to see how maybe Derek Henry or Aaron Jones or maybe even Joe Mixon probably won't hit $25. But he could be close to 19 or 20. We'll find out right now because Chris just nominated him. Okay, Joe Mixon. So off the top of your head, anyone can answer. If Ezekiel Elliott went for 25, how much should Joe Mixon go for? I'd say 19 to 23. Okay, Chris, you've got the $19 bid. Now it's 19 to 23.

Okay, Chris, you've got the $19 bid. Now it's up to 20. Now it's up to 20 for Joe Mixon. Let's see. Andrew Ballmer with the $20. Not going to go 21? All right, 20 for Mixon. It's my turn to nominate a player.

I am going to nominate Patrick Mahomes. I don't want him. So? I mean, you would take him. I'd take him for a dollar. You think I'll get him for a dollar? No. Yeah, I don't either.

All right. We'll see. We'll see what he goes for. I have no idea what he's going to go for. He's just been $9 on him. From my experience in these types of drafts, you can get some great quarterbacks for $1 or $2. Maybe a Tom Brady might go for $1 or $2.

Yep. And now here's Chris and Heath battling out for Mahomes at $11. I'd be a little surprised if Chris came in and went $12. He's not, so Heath got him for $11. Okay. When you think about spending 11% of your budget on the number one quarterback in fantasy, that sounds great.

But it's just like you said, Adam. There's going to be some unbelievable bargains that I think people will be really happy to have. You might spend 1% of your budget on a player that you know you're starting right off the jump.

Let's talk about how to make a balanced roster here. Josh Allen just went for $8. So Mahomes for $11, Josh Allen to Dave for $8. Interesting. We'll come back to that. But let's talk about how to make a roster here and if you have any strategies. I personally, this is your opportunity to get more studs than you're usually able to get. This is not a snake draft. So I want three top 20 players if possible. i'm going to try to do that because you can make up for it with dollar bids later with some of your sleepers um all right i'll just throw it around let's go to joe joe give me your you know if you have any strategy if you have i want blank of my top blank or whatever um so um i i think there's multiple things you can do, and I think it all comes down to how the room is reacting early.

I tend to think two viable strategies for me this year are hero RB, where you get kind of your stud and then you kind of mix and match elsewhere, or I kind of go mid-tier at running back and go high end at wide receiver, especially in a league where we're starting three of them. I think just based on the way I've been reading kind of the market this year, I feel like that's the way to go. We'll see how this room reacts. Sometimes you have to adjust on the fly, but that is probably, I think the foundation of my team is likely going to be wide receivers. Even if I have a super high-end running back, I do believe those high-end wide receivers are going to be kind of the foundation of my team.

All right. Sorry, I got a little distracted bidding on Saquon Barkley here. And now he's up to $18. Remember, Joe Mixon went for $20. Now Barkley's at $19 to a Giants fan, Dan Schneier. I like Barkley better than Mixon, so I'm going to go $20 here on Saquon Barkley. And that's going to be my last bid if anybody wants to beat me. Oh, Schneier.

Giant fan fight here. 21 bucks from him and he can have Saquon Barkley. All right. So we got Joe's take there. Drew, any strategy you want to tell us here for salary caps? Well, I'm about to nominate somebody.

So it looks like I'm going to stick with a running back theme here. And, you know, at this point, what I like to do is I'm thinking about I'm thinking about kind of sitting back and watching what's happening

because why did it do that i tried to try to did you not want to nominate him no i don't want to just let it roll i tried to nominate kamara i don't know why it didn't work well i'd like to get mcafree here if we wouldn't mind and i got him for 35 i don't know that i'm getting three top 20 players anymore, but Christian McCaffrey. So remember, Mixon went for 20. Barkley went for 21. Zeke went for 25 out of a $100 budget.

And I just took McCaffrey for 35. And I think he's worth it. He is so much better than everybody else. Wasn't worth it last year, unfortunately. Joe nominates Dalvin Cook. Let's see what happens here. He'll go somewhere between 25 and 35 he's up to 31 joe's got the high offer here on on dalvin cook i'm sorry drew did you want to keep uh discussing

your strategy 31 for dalvin cook drew go ahead i'll throw it back to you yeah no that's all right thanks yeah at this point because we got a lot of really tough players in the room and i actually have never done one with a hundred dollar uh cap before so i'm kind of a wait and see mode and i i like to lay back for maybe the first couple rounds and see what's going on before i jump in we had a uh as the washington dst gets nominated here by dave we had a funny note in the chat imagine watching three minutes of a live stream of experts nominating defenses for $1 over and over. Sorry to our audience out there. Yeah, it's a viable strategy, guys, just because it gives you that cost certainty.

And I always like doing, just for people who are watching this, if you're in an auction or salary cap draft at home, if you have kickers or defenses in your league and you throw one out for $1 and somebody's willing to bid $2 on that defense, let them. Yeah. I mean, that's $1 less that person has to spend, has to spend later when you're at the end of your draft and you want to hit on the sleepers of your draft. So I'm never upset when somebody bids me up on a defense,

never, ever upset on that. And it just gives you kind of that cost certainty you know the software you're using almost certainly calculates your highest bid your your your average bid allowed your max bid um it and it just gives you the cost certainty to realize like what money you have to spend on players that you actually want so it it is boring at the beginning of the drafts but it makes the end of the draft a little bit more exciting when there's actually going to be bidding wars for some of these sleepers that everybody's looking at because nobody wants to spend more than a dollar or two on a defense. You shouldn't spend more than a dollar on defense.

That's at least my take. First tight end off the board, Travis Kelsey, $23, which is, I think Barkley was 21, Mixon was 20, Zeke was 25, Kelsey's 23. That makes sense. Kyle Pitts's now being nominated here. And Chris, you were in on the Kelsey bidding. Yeah, Kelsey is a guy I think he's just really hard to replace. I was willing to spend about 22, but somebody beat me out by a buck. So why, you know, it's this kind of weird unwritten rule.

I'm willing to spend 22, but you haven't. Do you have any players on your team? I'm sorry, I forgot. Nope, I'm still playerless. Okay, so then, you know, it's weird. Why did you decide that 22 was your cap for Kelsey? Are you looking at, do you have like a spreadsheet where you say, I want to budget this much to this position

or anything like that? Or do you have a value for Kelsey? Yeah, it's a little bit of a mix of both. I do have some values here. So 22 is my high point for Kelsey. I thought I might be able to sneak in and get him, but somebody was sharp and bet a dollar more. All right, so Kyle Pitts went for $8.

CeeDee Lamb now, $12 is the bid for CeeDee Lamb. Now we're going to start to see some of those round four, five picks come off the board and you'll see what kind of values you get for them. Uh, Dave, this is where tears really come in handy. Okay. You got to know your tears and you got to see, okay. I don't know if you necessarily want to get the first guy in a tier. You tell me how you feel about that, Dave, but you also don't want to get the last guy in a tier. Cause that guy could get bit up severely. Um do you think? This is where I started making tiers in the first place was for salary cap drafts like this and understanding that when you've got groups of players together in that bubble that we talk about all the time,

you get an idea once one or two players in that bubble go off the board what the rest of the expectation is for what you could spend. And yeah, as if you've got your tears done before you go into your salary cap draft, you should be able to be a smart shopper when, when the time comes, when a player's up, for example, Derek Henry hasn't been nominated yet. I don't think Alvin Kamara has been nominated yet,

but we've seen McCaffrey and cook go in the thirties. I would assume that when those guys come up on the board, you'll know that they'll probably go close to 30, but maybe, especially for Henry in a PPR, maybe you get them a little bit closer to what Zeke went for, which is 25, 27, somewhere in that range. But at least you now

know you've got an idea of what you will be expected to pay for player services on your team. All right, Mike Davis now. Chris, with the high bid on Davis, $7. Kyle Pitts went for, I think, $8. All right, there goes $8 on your team. All right, Mike Davis now. Chris, with the high bid on Davis, $7. Kyle Pitts went for, I think, $8. All right, there goes $8 on Mike Davis to Jacob Gibbs. What do you think, Chris?

Bidding war. Do it. I'm going to hold off. Okay. You're very disciplined. Yeah. Very disciplined. You need to be.

I got to feel this out. There's a lot of sharp people in the room. I think people are setting the values right now. So, yeah, I'm comfortable sitting back. So is anybody here very aggressive, likes to fill up their rosters kind of early? I'm definitely not. I'm very patient in these drafts. There's moments where you go, oh, he's still available?

Oh, he went for that? And you don't want to miss out on those bargains that come maybe an hour into the draft when people are a little tired or something like that. But does anybody take the opposite approach and goes kind of heavy early in the in the past? I've definitely spent up early on when I thought that I got a good player at a good price. I've been in salary cap drafts where, you know, the top running backs are nominated quickly and I've got an idea on what they should go for. And I'm getting them for $2 or $3 less. And it's early on, and people are still worried about setting the market.

And we've talked about that a lot already on the stream. But if you know what you're comfortable paying for a player, then go spend it. And you'll find that you'll probably get a pretty decent bargain on those early on players. I don't know if there's going to be one in the one that we're doing right now because of you know we're all talking about we all have a lot of respect for each other here in this draft but in in your typical home league uh yeah i think there might be a little trepidation about spending early on and you can take advantage assuming you know what you're comfortable spending on a certain player right but i but I'm looking at it right now. Right now, Kamara going for 27.

Oh, Chris in there for 28. Chris is like, he wants to participate. He wants a player. Well, I think he's trying to get Alvin Kamara at a price a little less than Dalvin Cook, and I think that's pretty smart. Well, now he doesn't really have that chance. 30 bucks.

Cook went for what, 31, 32? Cook went for 31. Chris bid 30 on Kamara. As someone who took Dalvin Cook for 31, I'm very happy to see Alvin Kamara going for 30. Perfect. Because I have a bigger separation

between those two players than that. Chris, what about you? Totally understandable. Chris, you took Kamara for 30. So, you know, do you think he should be $1 less than Dalvin Cook? Or maybe that doesn't even matter. Maybe you think they're both good values, you know, do you think he should be $1 less than, than Dalvin Cook? Or maybe that doesn't even matter. Maybe you think they're both good values, you know? Yeah. I love Dalvin Kamara

this year. I, uh, I'm taking him second in a lot of drafts over, um, Cook and, uh, over Derek Henry. I just, Dalvin Kamara averaged 30 PPR points without Michael Thomas, uh, you know, last couple of years. And I just think that, you know, with the workload Cook's had over these past couple of years, I'm a little bit more worried about Cook than Kamara. I think this is just a blow-up year for Kamara. So I love him. All right, Kamara went for $30. I took Jalen Hurst.

I got Jalen Hurst for $2. Chris is up to nominate. One thing about nominating is if you want someone for $1, but you're not willing to go to $3 on that player, it's risky to nominate him for $1.

You might want to nominate for $2 because you nominate for $1, somebody goes $2, and then you say, I want this player, but I'm not going $3.

Here's Derrick Henry. Remember, he should go in about the $30-ish range. He's at $28 right now. This is full PPR. And just so everybody knows, Jalen Hurts will not be my only quarterback.

I don't feel comfortable enough in just having Hurts. 29. Oh, Chris sneaks in. Chris wants Kamara and Henry. All right. How fun would that be? Two top five running backs. This is the only format you could do that in.

Wow. Two top five running backs. Two very different players as well. Absolutely. Extremely different players. All right, Chris, so now what do you do? You just spent nearly 60% of your budget on two players. Things have changed quite a bit in the last two minutes for you, huh?

How do you pivot? Now it's time to sit back. Now we got to get some pass catcher values. I think that's going to be my strength. I'm going to kind of play the board. Okay. All right. Drew, we haven't heard from you in a while.

How you doing over there? Not too bad. Just landed my first player. I was maxed out at four bucks for Russell, but if anybody wanted to save five, they could have him, but I like four. I'm happy with it. And now I'm starting to get that feeling of,

uh-oh, did I spend a little too much on Josh Allen getting him at eight? I liked it at the time because Mahomes went for 11. I liked the discount that I felt like I got there, but now I'm starting to wonder if I spent a little too much. As Chris pointing out in the chat room, there has been only one player drafted for more than Jamie, Dave, and Heath's consensus price so far,

and that is Travis Kelsey. So that is interesting. So we're underbidding based on one source. And Eckler at $24 goes to Chris Towers. He loves Eckler. I'm sure he's happy about that. $24 for Austin Eckler. I'm not surprised that he went for $24 when Zeke went for $25.

I think a lot of people would not have stepped on 25 for Eckler knowing that Zeke went for 25. Everybody kind of values Eckler right behind Zeke. All right, so Dave nominates Devontae Adams. We haven't had a lot of wide receivers off the board. All right, you just saw Eckler went for 24, so you would expect Adams to be in this range. 23 is the bid right now to Heath.

24 to Schneider. It'll be interesting to see if he goes above 24. And then he just did. Yeah, he did. 25. All right. Nobody on this show is in on this. Nobody wants to go to 26, 27 on Adams?

No. No. And you know why? Because there aren't a lot of top-tier receivers that have been nominated yet. This is literally the toppest tierist receiver that you could get. So now I think people have an idea

of what they should spend on Tyreek Hill, Stephon Diggs, Calvin Ridley, Jacoby Meyer, you know, all the elite guys that are out there. Jacoby Meyers. All right, here's Ryan Tannehill. Joe's got a $2 bid on him. That's a great bid. He's going to get them.

Yeah, Wilson for four, Hertz for two, Brady for two, Tannehill for two. This is why I personally, Joe, I don't know how you feel about this, but that's why I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go 11 on my homes. I, you know, I, well, I'm typically like that. Like the thing is this year, I, I think you do want one of those running quarterbacks. Tannehill kind of straddles that line in a way. Like he gives you a little bit with his legs. Um, not a ton, but he gives you a little bit. He gets you touchdowns. But because I spent 31% of my budget on Dalvin Cook,

I had to go cheap somewhere. There was going to be a spot where I'm not going to be able to be in the bidding for a Mahomes or I thought Russell Wilson went for a little more than maybe I expected. I just fell asleep on Hurts because I think Hurts has massive upside. Even if he's got downside, that doesn't matter. You can get a backup quarterback for $1. But Tannehill at $2 is going to solidify that position for me. And it really is not a cost restrictive move at all. I mean, that's twice as much as I'm going to spend on my defense

for a guy who's going to be a solid starting quarterback. I'm in on that. Right. And so if you do spend more money than you want, uh, quarterback is a place where you can save some money. Yeah. A couple of, uh, players just came off the board. Nick Chubb for 19.

Look what you just did, Adam. Yeah. I think people are down a little bit too far on Jonathan Taylor. I think, you know, they've already said that he's going to be the guy, right?

I think catches is the PPR league catches. I'm thinking somewhere around two per game. I'll take 35 catches or so for Jonathan Taylor, but I think he'll get all the most, if not all the goal line work. And it's not like Wentz and Nelson are out for the season. I mean, they could be back in week three or four, something like that. So I think people are panicking just a little bit. And now I've got McCcafree and jonathan taylor i still want one more great player if i could pull that off maybe in the 15 range for maybe like ceh if i can get them in the 15 range or something like that that's interesting and you're not the only one at this approach of course

chris raybon also has two stud running backs i'm not sure if anybody else on the stream has it as well but i've i've tried that approach in the past, and when the injury bug bites, it crushes you. We'll see. Now, for you and for Chris, it's all about finding good steals later on. I would sit out the bidding for quite a while if I were you guys. Yeah, that could be.

We'll see, Dave. I get a little bored sitting out the bidding, but your patience is very important. Yeah, the boredom might cost you here. Travis ETN. $4. $5. A Cooper Cup just went for $10, by the way. $6 for

ETN. By the way, I apologize. I haven't been reading any questions, so I'm ready to read questions now. If anybody wants to ask a question in our live stream, fire away. Okay, ETN for seven. Drew, what do you think about ETN this year?

Oh, Dave got them. That's a heck of a question. I actually have been getting a fair amount of James Robinson in some of these salary caps because it helps to balance out a more studs and duds approach getting a four guy like that. I do like ETN's upside,

but I think that there's going to be enough of a split that it makes me nervous where he's going as far as price and ADP right now. And here's Lamar Jackson. So Chris has the high bid for Lamar Jackson, which is $5, which makes sense. Russell Wilson went for $4. But now, Chris, is that where you're at all since you have Kamara and Henry? So Chris has the high bid for Lamar Jackson, which is $5, which makes sense. Russell Wilson went for $4.

But now, Chris, does that worry you at all since you have Kamara and Henry, and now you have Lamar Jackson at $5? It doesn't worry me. I'm trying a different approach, kind of going really top-heavy here. And I'm going to obviously be getting a bunch of dollar guys later on in the draft, so we'll see how that goes. Here's a question from Gator fan 15 in a $200 draft. How much different would you spend between the three of Henry Eckler and Chubb?

A $200 draft. Joe, I'll throw this one to you, Henry Eckler and Chubb. What do you think the difference should be between them? I would have Eckler and Chubb in the similar tier. Probably if it's PPR, I'd have Eckler maybe $5 ahead of Chubb. I would have

Henry probably 10 to 15 above Eckler and then like, yeah, 15 to 18 above Chubb. That's kind of where I have them tiered also, just like now you might disagree with that. And if you want to say, I want to go get Eckler and save that extra money, totally fine. But that's just where I would expect them to get drafted based on what I've seen, based on ADPs, and based on where people have them tiered. Okay. Aaron Jones went for $26. Dave, I think Chris Towers has a very interesting team. He has two first-round running backs

and two round 4-5 wide receivers. Ezekiel Elliott, Austin Eckler, Cooper cup and CD lamb. And he has spent a lot of money. Sure. Uh, so he's going to find a dollar quarterback. $71. I think he spent.

He, and listen, I think he spent it pretty nicely. And this is what you can do in a salary cap draft is you would never be able to put a team together like this in a regular old snake draft and he's got two running backs that are going to go in the first round he's got cd land that i think is going to end up being a third round pick cooper cup will be a fourth round pick i'm curious to see what the rest of his team is going to look like it's going to be cheap but this is a way to

start building your team and if if two of these guys hits he'll be competitive if three of them hit he'll be on fire. And if all four of them hit, he's going to the playoffs and probably going to win the league. So I think he's off to a really good start. I would have liked it a little bit better if he got a couple of bargains along the way. Maybe Zeke turns out to be one of those moderate bargains

because we just saw Aaron Jones go for 26. I like Zeke better than Jones this year. Burrow for one, Kittle for 11. Kittle for 11 and Kyle Pitts for eight. Which value does everybody like better? Pitts for eight or Kittle for 11? You know, $100 budget.

I'd say Kittle. Yeah, I'm on Kittle there. Kittle? Well, I took Pitts. I took Pitts for eight before I'm on Kittle there. Kittle? Okay, well, I took Pitts. I took Pitts for eight before I knew that Kittle would go for 11, but I don't mind it. The strategy that I'm going to work with is just going cheap with all my players

and try and just build a nice balanced squad. You know I'm going to end up with more than one tight end, Adam. I always do. And I thought that Pitts at eight was actually a decent bargain. I've got him for more in my salary cap values. Why more than one tight end when you have Pitts though? Because I'm not

as much as I like Pitts and I think he'll be great. I'm not certain that he's going to end up being great. So I want to have a little insurance in case he struggles. With 35 picks in, Kyler Murray went for $5. 35 picks in about 20. We started a little late, about 26 minutes.

Not that bad. I think we're moving at a pretty good pace here. Joe gets his defense with the Dolphins. Yeah, boring. But one thing I want to comment on, guys, is I always try to tell people, if people are looking at this and are looking for advice, one thing I would tell people is I don't think the quarterback prices are going to be this...

By the way, $2 for Dak Prescott is a steal. What? Josh Allen and Dak. That's kind of funny. Which is like, yeah, that might be $2 you can't spend later. But I would not expect the quarterback prices to be this tight in your hometown league like that that's one thing i always tell people like

when i do broadcasts on serious xm i always talk about how like the experts or industry people are playing chicken at the quarterback position that does not happen in your hometown league so sometimes you know you might look at our drafts and say man these guys are Waiting on quarterback, not spending up on quarterback is the right way to go. And you might decide you're going into your, your hometown league with your buddies who are eight white claws deep. And it just doesn't work out that way. So you just have to understand that, like, we're just playing things a little bit closer to the vest in, in, in this league when it comes to quarterbacks, you know, heck I spent $2 on Ryan Tannehill, and I'm regretting it because Dak Prescott won for $2.

That's just not going to happen in a hometown league. Once in a while in salary cap drafts, it happens where everybody's asleep at the wheel. Literally, I went to put Dak into my nomination queue, and I said, well, there's no way he should go for one. I'll

put him for two and hope that some people spend up a little bit to get him and then no one bid on him everyone was kind of asleep and so i don't necessarily need him i can't use him and josh allen but uh what the hell man two bucks for dac prescott happy to have him because it is a steal naji harris now is uh is nominated he's up to $20. This is about the range you would expect. I have too many rookies. Oh, you took him? I got Najee for $20.

All right, we got a question from Tim. Do you try to bid up a player that you don't want in order for the other managers to spend more? If so, what is your threshold before you stop bidding? No, don't do that, because then you'll end up with three quarterbacks or something like that, and it'll be even worse than the situation that I've found myself in here today. Um, no, don't do it. I know that there's a temptation to do it. You can, you can nominate players.

Like the reason why I'm nominating Dak and I had other quarterbacks in my queue was because I had Josh Allen and I know I don't need another quarterback. So I was hoping that other people would go and bid up quarterbacks. That's how you try and get people to bid up. But if you start bidding people up, you might end up with players that you just absolutely don't. Yeah. It's one of my rules I put in my draft plan this year is like only get into a bidding war for a player you are willing to draft. Like now you might say you might prefer a guy. Let's just say, for instance, it's Najee Harris or Austin Eckler. And you're like, well, I have Eckler. I love Eckler and I like him more than Harris,

but I got him for $30 and Najee Harris is going for $18 and that's stupid. But if you already have two starting running backs and you think that third running back would be overkill, I mean, sometimes it's just going to work out that somebody else in the league gets a value. And sometimes it's going to be you who gets that value. If you are not willing to draft a player, getting into a true bidding war,

you can beat yourself by doing that. And it's the worst way to lose. You just heard me get really mad at Dave. It took him 10 seconds. I told you I was going to take two tight ends. It's so stupid. You know, fine, fine. Now you have two quarterbacks and two tight ends.

I love Adam Troutman. Do you have two quarterbacks and two tight ends? Good for you. Good for you, Dave. I put Adam Troutman up. I put Adam Troutman on my budget on quarterbacks and tight ends. See, and now it would be dumb for me to bid on a quarterback or a tight end again in the entirety of this draft.

It was dumb because then I could end up with them and that would be way too much. Nobody knows who we're talking about here is Adam Troutman. I put him up for a dollar. I was like, you know what? I think this might work. I really wanted him for a dollar. Dave comes in at two dollars. Jerk move.

I wasn't going three. So Troutman's off the board. Damian Harris went for five. Juju Smith-Schuster went for three. Here's DeAndre Swift. So look, DeAndre Swift, I think CeeDee Lamb went for 12. Cooper Cupp for 10. Juju for three is another asleep at the wheel

move. And Swift is up to 15 now. This could be a nice one. 16 for DeAndre Swift. I think Juju for three might have just been also like people are kind of down on him. And they're like, well, I could bid $4, but I'd rather have that $4 later for a player I like more. Even if it's irrational, I just think that's the way people's brains work when they're doing these things.

Chris, let me ask you, what do you think about DeAndre Swift? He went for $17. We're recording this on Tuesday afternoon. I know people are listening to the podcast this weekend on Sunday. Swift with this groin injury here. What do you think about him and Jamal Williams? Chris. I think DeAndre Swift is a decent value in kind of that spot. Like, I don't think Jamal Williams is going to just be like this runaway,

like what he was on the Packers. It's a new team. I would expect if one of those two guys beats their ADP, I would still expect it to be Swift. Oh, Drew got Chris Carson. That was a good buy. Yeah, at $11, which is. Very happy with that price.

That's 10% of your budget. Then Chris Carson's kind of like a guy who if you pay 10% of your budget, he probably plays like a guy who's worth 15% to 20% of your budget. Nobody loves Chris Carson ever. And then you're like, eh, during the season, you're like, man, I wish I had a little bit more of him. Yeah, he's top 15 per game three years in a row.

Chris, Tim asked me when I'm going to nominate Fernando Tatis. I'm definitely not going to do that, I promise. I don't know if there are any players that have the same name as a baseball player in here in the NFL pool. We'll look for it. He's dropping the 2-3 on Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill for

23, for 24. Heath likes to jump it up there. Does Jamie have any players? Big jump in bed. Jamie gets Tyreek Hill. What's Jamie's team? Let's take a look at Jamie's team. I think Jamie's team is Tyreek Hill and the DST.

And Stafford. Stafford for a buck. Tyreek for 24. Rams for one. Mike Evans. $7 for Mike Evans right now. I expect him to go in the $10 range. $8 to Drew. Oh, man.

I want to hit nine. Hit it. See, this is one of those things where if there's a player you really want and it's only going to take one buck more. This is what I was thinking with Troutman. If it's only going to cost you one, but that's it, one more, just do it. No, but I don't really want him.

I don't really want him. Okay, then you don't really want him then. I think it was a good, okay, so whereas, you know, some of us have a bunch of studs. Drew's got Russell Wilson for four bucks, Chris Carson for 11, and Mike Evans for eight, which is nowhere near what I paid for Christian McCaffrey. So you've got a little core to your team,

quarterback, running back, wide receiver. Do you like this start for $23 for Wilson, Carson, and Evans? I love that. I'm pretty happy with it. You know, I don't... I was getting a little nervous I didn't have a running back,

so I'm happy I got Carson. Yeah. Let's see, by the way, Adam Thielen just went to Joe for $6. Let's see the best running backs available. Antonio Gibson, Clyde Edwards-Elair, Dobbins, Montgomery. Those would be the top four available. A.J. Brown, now up for bid. And I think he'll probably be close to $20.

Joe's got a $16 bid on him. He was back at practice today, Adam. Oh, man. Up to $18. You were one second away from getting for $16. I clicked $17 just because you said he was back at practice. $19. Yeah, I tried to sneak him through for maybe a little Tannehill stack.

Do you care about that, having stacks? Mostly more in best ball, but it can be a tiebreaker here. I like it on a team, though, where let's, for instance, the Vikings or the Titans, these narrow fantasy teams where when the production comes, you know where it's coming from. I think it's more viable in a league like that. Obviously, best ball, when you don't have to pick the week, that's really good too. But for instance, like Ryan Tannehill, if Ryan Tannehill has a big game, chances are A.J. Brown's going to have a big game too. So in a season-long league,

especially when I can pick my matchups for that, but it's more of a best ball strategy. Simply, he was a good player who I thought fit my team, but I wasn't going to pay as much as he went for. Yeah, here's Waller now. A.J. Brown just went for 19. Waller went for 13. Yeah, I think that's a good bargain.

Yeah, it's a great bargain. Their ADPs are very similar. He's been out of practice for like two weeks now, though. That is true. Yeah, that's true. I'm not worried because we haven't heard anything.

Like, I feel like if it was serious, we would have heard something from like Schefter or Rapshied or somebody like that. But it is still a little concerning if you're drafting this time of year chris what's going on over there how you doing doing good chris you're very i'm looking at your face you are really into this yeah very focused yeah i'm just uh i got a lot of work to

do now that i spent like 60 of my cap on three guys so just kind of deciding uh who i'm going to nominate over these next few rounds. If they're not here getting a whisk together. So we just saw Josh Jacobs go for six and I am not a fan of Jacobs, Adam. You know that I'm worried about him this year, but I was tempted to at least try for seven just because I thought that

that would have been a pretty moderate value, a good value to have, but I already have ETN But I already have Etienne. I already have Najee. I've got to show some discipline when I'm building this roster. So I had to pass on Josh Jacobs, and I thought he went for a good price. You know who I think is going to go for close to six is Javante Williams. I think his ADP, I think his price will be very similar to Josh Jacobs

in this round, in this salary cap draft. Here's Stefan Diggs, $22 right now on Diggs. What did Tyreek Hill go for, like $24? Tyreek was $24. Adams, I think, was $26. And this is right where I think that's perfect for Diggs. Right where he should be. Yep.

Okay. Yeah, so now I'm in Waller and Kittle going for $13 and $11, respectively. Good job, Dave. I don't know why you Kittle going for 13 and 11, respectively. Good job, Dave. I don't know why you needed Troutman, though. Jerk. Here's Amari Cooper off the pup list as of Tuesday. And CeeDee Lamb went for 12. Let's see what Cooper goes for here.

I was going to bid 7. Now it's up to 8. I'm bargain shopping here. 8's good. 9 to Drew. All right. See if anyone's going 10. 10 to

Chris Towers. Amari Cooper. Last chance. Yeah, I think this is pretty much right where he's going to go to. Until the news gets better on him, he's going to be right in this range. Yeah, off the pup today, though. That's probably a little bit

earlier than a lot of people might have been anticipating. So Lamb for 12, Cooper for 10, and also Cooper Cup went for 10. So, you know, Cooper, Amari Cooper for 10 bucks might be really good. Mike Evans for eight might be even better. Good job, Drew. And not to mow my own lawn here,

but when I see, like, Cooper Cup go for 10 bucks, I'm pretty happy with Thielen at $6. Yeah. Well, he's an interesting player, Thielen. I mean, I feel like some people... I basically am just avoiding him. You still believe in him, Joe? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

It just feels like the market's just like, oh, it's Adam Thielen. He's old, and Justin Jefferson's a stud, so I'm just going to leave him go. I'll take that bargain every time. He is on so many of my teams because he slips into the fifth and sixth round where he's available as a wide receiver three. It's just

it. I don't know. I feel like it's an overcorrection. All right, let's see. And by the way, they don't have anybody like their number three receiver is who? D.D. Westbrook? Amir Smith-Marset? Like,

they clearly are counting on him. I just nominated... Oh, there's no question they're counting on him. I nominated Keenan Allen. I didn't even realize that. Okay, Keenan Allen. Here we go. They are... Yeah, I just... With Thielen, when I look... First of all, I'm worried he's kind of old.

And... He just has had a lot of really bad games over the last two seasons. I'm just wondering if he's losing it a little bit. He relied so much on touchdowns. Keenan Allen for 19. Who would you guys rather have in a PPR league? A.J. Brown or Keenan Allen? They both went for 19. Brown. Brown slightly.

That's so interesting. Brown for 19. I'm actually a little surprised. Alan went for that much. Not that I disagree with it. I just, I thought that he would, might be somebody who I would be willing to like,

you know, kind of, he's like a third round pick. I, I was thinking as like maybe a wide receiver one on my team, but I was actually a little surprised that he went for this much at this stage in the draft. I don't think it's a

bad pick or anything like that. He's definitely going to have more catches than A.J. Brown, right? He probably will. I think Brown's going to have him beat on efficiency, though. I think it was an overspend. I think 19 was just a little too much for Keenan Allen. Antonio Gibson goes

for 20 to Jacob Gibbs. Gibbs gets Gibson. That's uh yeah everybody in that range has gone for about 20 barkley gibson mixon i don't remember the naji harris where did he go for now she went for 20 20 and i would have rather it's a close call between those two like i'll take naji for 20 but gibson's hype is starting to really get up there. I thought he'd go for a little more. Calvin Ridley now. We have a $21 bid.

And booyah! I got Calvin Ridley. You got him for 21. You love Calvin. Well, you know, I say it all the time. It's a good price. You know, I think the top five wide receivers should outperform the running backs

in that range, or at least most of them. So if they're all going for 20 and I'll take Ridley for 21, I feel like that kind of worked out for me. And now look what's happened. Remember when Devontae was the top-tier guy? He went for 27. Everybody fell right in line behind him. Tyreek for 24.

Diggs for 22. Hopkins for 21. And now Ridley for 21. The market got set, and everybody went along with it. There were no overspends on the top five receivers. Here's Tyler Boyd. So Heath has a $3 bid on Tyler Boyd. He also has $3 for Juju Smith-Schuster. Dave comes in, bids four on Tyler Boyd.

After this bid, let's look at Chris Tower's team because Chris is down to one dollar bids he have eight spots left i love that uh all right dave gets tyler boyd for four i would have gone more that was awesome all right i know you like him all right so let's look at chris's team chris has zeke and eckler he has kittle at tight end. He has Cooper and Lamb and Cooper Cup. So he has two Coopers and he has two Lambs. He has three Cowboys. Zeke Eckler,

Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Cooper Cup, and George Kittle. He has $8 left for eight spots. A quarterback, a flex, a DST, and five bench spots. And we will see if he can pull this off. Do you guys like what Chris did? I don't know if I love having Cooper and Lamb on the same squad.

He's got a lot of dudes on by week seven. No, I think he's fine. He does. All in all, I think it's a good roster. What's his highest bid now? $1. He has eight spots left. So he's going to be waiting around for a long time. The rest of his team is going to be

kind of ugly. If you're going to wait around and the rest of your team is going to be ugly and all you've got are dollar bids, but you've got six guys and it's these six guys, I think you're doing it right. I like it. All right, Drew. J.K. Dobbins for $15.

Your starting running backs are Dobbins and Carson? Yeah, as of right now. Okay. Wilson, Dobbins, Carson, and Evans are your four players. Yep. Yeah, I like getting Dobbins there because it's getting a little scarce. I don't want to be in a bidding war with somebody for one of the last guys that I care about here. here so i definitely want to jump in 15 is more than i want to pay for a guy like davins that's that's that's maybe three bucks too high but i was worried about scarcity pushing it even higher here in a minute with a couple of these guys that are still left dk metcalf goes for 19 which makes sense that is right in line with alan and brown yep and then that just comes down to personal preference who do you want or you know getting a guy see to me just like i

identified this i don't want to blow up anybody's spot here but i identified this as like okay i see one guy left in that tier beyond DK Metcalf. And I wanted to try to see if I could not get into a bidding war in that tier and Metcalf going in line for AJ Brown and Keenan Allen, which frankly was a little bit more than I thought they were going to go for. But, you know, at some point you have to pay market price. Like if you just keep digging around a draft to find values, your team is not going to be very good. Now, it's good to get values, but if you're like, I'm not paying market price for any player I want,

you are not going to have a good team in a salary cap draft. That's a good point. I want to ask you guys about tight end here because we have Hawkinson and Andrews left of the top six. And I know Dave has already got Kittle and Troutman. I'm sorry. You have Pitts and Troutman. Does anybody else have a tight end?

I do not. Nope. So, yeah, neither do I. So that means four of us don't have a tight end and Hawkinson and Andrews are on the board. I'm not sure if you guys also see it as kind of a big six, but how much of a priority or Hawkinson and Andrews going to be for you? Unfortunately, I think I have to be out on them because I,

I have only $22 left. Yeah. Well, Hawk Andrews is going now and he just dropped eight bucks on him. And I bet that's where he's going to end up. And that's exactly what Kyle pits went for. So, okay. Then now Hawkinson is going to be the last guy in a tier. And I wonder, are you guys going to be aggressively targeting him?

I think I'm going to have to sit him out. But to my three guests, what do you think about TJ Hawkinson? And do you feel like you need to get him? Have you seen his hair? No, but I will Google image it right now. It's wild right now. I don't feel the need to get Hawkinson, no. Not that I like the player, but I'm not like 100% in on him right now.

Yeah, he's not really fit in my draft strategy, but I do like him in regular drafts. I take him as high as fourth. I think he has a major opportunity being kind of the top target on that team, and Jared Goff's not going to throw downfield. So now here's my question. I took Pitts for eight. I'm totally regretting it.

We just saw Andrews go for eight. If you have the chance to bid six or seven on Hawk and you get him, would you be upset about it at this point probably not right because you're getting them at a cheaper value than than andrews and pits i i predict he'll go for seven i think he'll go for a buck less than andrews and pits who are you asking just in general no i'm? I wouldn't be upset by that at all. Yeah, that's a great value. Anything under 8 would be a great value. I agree.

Zach Moss. I'll go 3 on Zach Moss. Top of my queue. I'm only going to nominate him for 1. Yeah, I'm buying Zach Moss. He goes for 4. I'm not buying him for five. Someone else might in this room.

Let's see. Zach Moss for two bucks less than Josh Jacobs. I think we're getting a little stupid here with Jacobs. Like, just, yeah, nobody likes Josh Jacobs this year, but, man. Yeah, I thought, yeah, that's one of the better values. Just not that exciting. How much did ETN go for? He went for seven. He went for seven.

All right, so look, that's really... It's a little high. Josh Jacobs for six is a great value, but ETN for seven is not. Right. And being in Colby PR definitely helps. Yeah, I think it's fine. I just got Chuba Hubbard for $1. You guys can have your DSTs.

I'll take my handcuffs. Adam, that was masterfully played. You talked right over the $1, counting down on the clock so everybody was distracted. Well done. Not my first salary cap. I knew Chuba Hubbard was up there.

I just wasn't bidding on Chuba Hubbard. I didn't think anybody would. If anybody wanted him for $2, that was totally fine. I obviously have him for $2, that was totally fine. I obviously have McCaffrey, so that was a priority for me. Oh, whoa! Julio Jones for $7.

I think there's some negative press on him. He's 32 years old and beat up. I still think it's a pretty good value, though. Let's see how badly people want Hawkinson. Remember, Andrews and Pitts went for eight. Hawkinson's at seven right now.

I'm going to bid eight just for fun. Seven. Seven for Hawkinson. It is right, but it just surprises me a little bit because he is the last player in a tier, and I thought maybe that people would be more eager to get a top six tight end, but so be it be more eager to get a top six tight end.

But so be it. You don't have a top six tight end. There are some fallback options. All you do is nominate Adam Troutman for $1 and then watch the guy who drafted Kyle Pitts. Look at you. You're so upset over that. You keep going back to Troutman. Why didn't you just pick him? I'm even more upset that I didn't get Aaron.

My whole strategy was to get Aaron Rodgers. And I was talking like an idiot about Trout whole strategy was to get Aaron Rodgers. I was talking like an idiot about Troutman, and I missed Aaron Rodgers, who went for $1. I'm so mad at myself. Never underestimate the ability of an auction slash salary cap draft to make you feel stupid

about one of the buys you made. Just like Ryan Tannehill for $2. I'm sitting here like, yeah, and then Aaron Rodgers goes for $1. How about $8 for Josh Allen, Joe? I mean, Josh Allen's a cheat code, so at least you have that. Right. But, oh, man. It's the whole time, it's like, I'm just going to get Aaron Rodgers.

I'm just going to get Aaron Rodgers. And then I'm just, don't host a podcast while you do a salary cap draft. That's good advice. Clyde Edwards-Ziller for $9. Clyde Edwards-Ziller for nine. Clyde Edwards-Ziller for ten right now. Eleven. This could be a bargain.

I think it is. Twelve now. This is a bargain. Nair loves Edwards-Ziller. It's just... Now we're starting to get out of bargain territory and get into fair territory, and it doesn't surprise me that Drew's right on top of that. Well, Dobbins went for 15,

so if that's the case, what should CEH go for? I wanted him for 13. Yeah. He's at 14 right now to Jamie, and now he's at 15. Ooh, Drew loves it. I like it. Everyone keeps going up.

Yeah, and Drew and Jamie have the hammer right now. They've got the most money. Drew's kind of snuck some sneaky values through. Jamie really is just kind of sitting back. He's the way he always does. $16 for Clyde Edwards-Elair. It's for Jamie. And now Drew is up to nominate

frustrated with that one shake it off you almost had him at 13 that would have been a great buy obviously but I think 16 is right around where you'll see CEH go maybe like 1 buck too much Bill's DST

Drew will get him. All right. So, yeah, let's take a look at kind of the financial situation here. Jamie's got $58. Joe's got $41. Drew, how much do you have now? You have? $61.

$61. Okay. So you have the most. I'm going to get you guys spending terry mclaurin here joe going for 16 bucks on mclaurin right now oh that would be nice man oh come on no oh what a nice value there all right so yeah i have executed my strategy which was what hero running back and then three really good receivers I feel good about. Metcalf, McLaren, and Phelan I feel pretty damn good about.

Yeah, you should. Is that it? Do you have anybody else? Oh, you have Tannehill. I have Tannehill, yeah, and then Dolphins defense. I don't feel as good about Tannehill right now, I'll tell you that, given Aaron Rodgers went for a buck, but I'll go to battle with this team. I don't blame you.

All right, Chris Godwin for eight. That's the same as what Mike Evans went for. And we are 73 picks into this salary cap draft. Dave, I can't do the math. How many people are getting drafted? It's 12 times 16. So 120 plus 72, 192. I'm not doing the math.

Chase Claypool now up for a bid. Five bucks to Dave. Guy, I don't mind trying to slide through at a little bit of a discount. And I shouldn't have said anything because then Joe came right in. I love Claypool too this year. I do too.

Yeah, I think – is he anybody's favorite Steelers wide receiver? Yes. Yes. Yeah, go ahead. Elaborate, Chris. So I think when you look at Deontay Johnson, I just think that he may have hit his ceiling last year just given the amount of targets he got.

Claypool, on the other hand he still has huge upside when you look at his um you know route participation he was only running about in the 60 to 70 percent range in terms of his routes run um so if that goes into you know 80 90 starter territory um you know that's he's kind of like the poor man cd lamb where you know we're expecting lamb to kind of jump up in routes run as well. He was running like 60% to 70% most of last year as well. So I just think with his efficiency, with his talent, that he's got the highest upside of all the Steel receivers.

All right, and here's DJ Moore going for $9. So look, Claypool went for $7. Evans and Godwin went for $8. DJ Moore is going for $9. Cooper Cup went for $10. It's not necessarily following average draft position. And I just wonder, is that a commentary on, and Moore went for $9, is that a commentary on the wide receivers that go from rounds four through, say, seven, they're not that different. I kind of see it that way this year. I wonder if anybody sees it that way also. Like rounds four through seven wide receivers is a big jumbled mess. I think there's a lot of quality in that group.

I think that's what's exciting about that. That's why I don't like going after running backs in there, and we've talked about that on the podcast this week. The whole RB dead zone is kind of in that range, but there are a lot of really good values in that range. And when I start my drafts with a running back in a tight end or two running backs in a tight end, it's because I know I can find some receivers from that jumble

that you were talking about that are going to be good values. Yeah, but that's not my question. My question is, are they basically the same? The wide receivers in round four are the Dallas guys, the first two Tampa Bay guys, DJ. Well, I think some of them have a little more upside than the receivers that you'd find in round six or seven. Okay, well, so separate them, basically.

I don't know if there's a lot of separating that can even be explained. Some of these guys have a great floor. I don't know if there's a lot of separating that is get, that can even be explained. They all, some of these guys have a great floor. Godwin is one of those receivers, for example. Um, whereas somebody like, um, Claypool,

as Chris talked about, definitely has an high ceiling. Yeah. Less of a floor cup has a high floor. Thielen has a high floor. Robbie Anderson went for $4. Ayuk went for $7. And we are going to take a break after I tell you that it is draft prepping for charity month supporting St. Jude. It's underway throughout the month. We're going to have various eBay

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This is to support St. Jude, so please help us out. Okay, we'll go to a break after this, but Tyler Lockett just went for 11. I guess somebody has to love him, but that surprised me a little bit. Yeah, it does. It surprises me, too, with DJ. I don't even like DJ more this year, but him going for nine, Ayuk for seven, Claypool for seven, Thielen went for six, Julio went for seven.

I'm a little surprised that price for Lockett. All right, a quick break here on Fantasy Football today. 80 picks in as Noah Fant just went for $2. We will be right back. Did you know that across Ontario, utility damage happens 19 times a day? That's over 4,222 incidents a year. Don't let your next dig be one that causes costly delays or safety risks. Before you break ground, make it a point to request a locate.

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We also have Chris Rabon of Action Network, Drew Davenport of Football Guys, and Joe Dolan of Fantasy Points. FantasyPoints.com James Robinson. $2 bid to Dave. $3 to George. I know, Drew, you said that you've ended up

with a lot of James Robinson. Are you in or out on this one as he's at $4? Yeah, I'm out for this price and I don't need another floor guy. I got plenty of those. So Dave got him. Alright got plenty of those. So Dave got him. Alright, let's check in on Dave's team.

Dave has Josh Allen for $8. Najee Harris and David Montgomery. Getting Montgomery for $14 was a surprise. You have Etienne and Robinson. Interesting. So you have both Jaguars guys. I think they both might end up being,

in PPR, ETN more so than Robinson, but both might end up being startable. You have, okay, Montgomery and Harris are your starting running backs. Julio Jones, Chase Claypool, Tyler Boyd at wide receiver, Pitts at tight end, Flex is ETN, and Josh Allen at quarterback. It's pretty good.

You must be happy. I mean, I don't have a first-round guy. And some of the teams in this mock have multiple first-round guys. But I think I got a lot of guys in that round 3, 4, 5 range, and I'm happy to have them. I'm building up a nice callous of depth here with this roster. Okay. And you have Dak Prescott on your bench and James Robinson. You also have the Washington football team,

and you have Adam Troutman on your bench as well. So it's a good team, and you only have two roster spots left, so you've got, obviously, dinner plans. All right, so Drew just went with Allen Robinson, who was the highest-ranked wide receiver left. He went for $18. I expect Robert Woods is going to go for a lot, too. He's at $12.

Lockett went for $11. Now Woods is at $13. He's going now. He's more than CeeDee Lamb. He's at $15, which is what McLaurin went for. McLaurin went for $16. Yeah. Yeah, this is exactly what I thought was going to happen when I nominated Woods. $16 for

Woods. He's like one of those guys I feel like everybody likes this year, like the opposite of Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I think that Rams, those Rams pass catchers may be like a wealth of value because, you know, Cam Akers is hurt. If Stafford is healthy, McVay is going to be able to open up his offense and throw a lot more than he probably has in the past because he's comfortable with his quarterback and he can get it downfield a little more.

I'm interested to see how that shakes out, but I think all the Rams pass catchers are values. Alright, Dave nominates Miles Sanders here. I'm going to say $7. That's my prediction for Miles Sanders. That's how high I would go. I have a $6

bid on Sanders. Let's see if anybody wants to beat it. There you go. Drew goes for $7. I think you're going to win him, Drew. Yeah. There you go. Congratulations. Drew seems excited. I don't know about excited, but I'll take it. I think the value is good, and that's the trend that I'm seeing with the guys that you get, Drew,

is that you're really focusing on just getting good values. Maybe you're open to picking from 80 different players in the National Football League for your squad, but when you get them at a value, that's what you're looking for. You're being a smart shopper, and I think that Sanders at seven is a pretty decent buy. I don't think anybody's expecting him to be a workhorse anymore. Really worried about his role in the passing game. Little concerned about his role in short yardage goal line, but he should lead that team in touches at running back every single week. And that offensive line is pretty good in Philadelphia. John is Smith for a dollar. Now Deontay Johnson. This will be an interesting one. He's at $9.

He's at $10. We don't have that many quality wide receivers left. So we have Deontay Johnson. We have Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins. It's a little dicey. I mean, these guys might be dicey themselves. But after Chase and Higgins, we're looking at Galladay, the Broncos guys, Brandon Cooks, the Browns guys,

Devontae Smith. So, you know, Devontae Johnson goes for $12. And now it's time for backup quarterbacks. Tua Tungavailoa will go for $1 here. This could end up being a very good – well, look, Aaron Rodgers went for a dollar, so you're not going to get any great values. Anybody think that the Sean Watson is going to going to play this year at

this point? I, I know you can be cynical with the NFL and how things go with the NFL, but I mean, I just can't even imagine what it would take for him to play for any team but the Texans this year like it is now August 10th with every passing minute we it gets less and less likely that somebody's going to make a move from are you going to blow up your locker room with that oh by the way this guy might get arrested um he might get subpoenaed by a grand jury like it just doesn't

make sense to me guys like I don't know know why a team would dedicate the assets it would take to trade for Deshaun Watson right now with all the severe downside that takes. Oh, and by the way, it's August 10th, and you've already prepared an entire offseason for the NFL season that's four weeks away. Yeah. Makes perfect sense.

I guess so, but if a team i know i don't know that they'd be bothered by you know bringing him in late in training camp especially if they're a team that doesn't think it's going to contend this year but yeah there's a lot to be bothered by in that situation yeah and i mean just like i mean there's still obviously a chance that you trade, let's just say, two first round picks for a player who might like Deshaun Watson never playing another down in the NFL is in the range of outcomes. Right there. Yeah. I mean, I just can't. We can get so cynical with the NFL and like teams will teams will try to win at all costs.

But I just like I just don't see it right now. I think a team might trade for him if they knew for sure that he'd be able to play next year. Next year, 2022. Because of what you're talking about, Joe, the range of outcomes, there's a chance he doesn't play another down in the NFL again. I think that's definitely going to make teams shy. Yeah, but if you talk about range of outcomes,

you have to also look at what he's done in the league this far. It's been elite every single year so like i think somebody will definitely um kind of weigh that and say hey we'll trade for i mean there's been there's been worse trades where you trade for guys that you know you're sure are going to play and they don't pan out so i definitely think like teams will value him like if i was denver i would trade for him and then also talk about the range of outcomes there's also a chance this year that he plays what if he serves you know no suspension yet and everything is just pending in houston with what's going on off the field that's you know like on the other hand like this isn't like not not to minimize anything this isn't like burglary right

i mean i know i don't want to get so heavy on but like i mean you have a chance to alienate a huge portion of your fan base if you make this move yeah so i mean like that that it's not just like oh we stole a couple computers or something you know it's it's a lot more than that all right uh let's say two it's a tough thing to talk about here so we'll move on i shouldn't have put you on the spot like that uh we've got we are 93 picks in as michael carter went for six dollars chris i'll have you talk about that james white went for one dollar dj tark for three dollars other oh this is a guy i want by the way just so everybody knows brandon cooks yes uh chris i don't want them. Just don't even. Just leave them alone. All right, so Chris bid 15.

You'll get them. I can only bid 13. Oh, Chris, you little jerk, dude. $7 now for Brandon Cooks. You can have them for seven. All right, so you got Michael Carter for six and Brandon Cooks for seven. Feel pretty good about yourself, Chris? Yeah, I feel like I'm obviously planning to get, you know, dollar reserve spots,

but I feel like I rebounded pretty well. I love Michael Carter this year. He's already, you know, operating as the number one back in camp. He's making waves. He's a guy that can play on run and pass downs. And this offense, there's a lot of unknowns because you have the new quarterback, but, uh, I think that's perfect for a guy going, you know, where he's going and at the price he's going.

I think he's, he could be one of the major, uh, value running backs of this year's, uh, draft, especially if you're going like zero RV or something like that. Where are you taking him in a snake draft,

Chris? I would take him as high as like the, the sixth round. Um, fifth, sixth round. I think people, I think him as high as like the the sixth round um fifth sixth round i think people i think he still goes in like the seventh seventh sometimes the eighth but um i think his adp will rise as as as camp gonna goes on because again those reports are going to start getting louder and louder um for carter all right we got gavante Williams. So Carter went for six. Javante Williams is at six right now. College teammate goes for the same question.

Seven. Oh, no, he does. Eight. Chris is just taking all the players right now. Chris has an $8 bid on Javante Williams. How do you have all this money? What is going on here? I thought you had...

Chris got $150. Yeah, you got a lot more money than we did. Because you have Alvin Kamara, Derek Henry, and Michael Carter, and Jav lot more money than we did. Because you have Alvin Kamara, Derek Henry, and Michael Carter, and Javante Williams. What's your max bid now? Like a dollar. Okay, all right.

You're down to $1 bids for your last six spots. So let's take a look at Chris. Oh, Galladay. Yeah, Galladay on the board now. Let's take a look at Chris's team. And he's got Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry, and Alvin Kamara, Chris Godwin,

Brandon Cooks, no wide receiver three yet, no tight end, Michael Carter in his flex, or Javante Williams in his flex, and the other one on the bench, and the Browns DST. So there are some really good players on this team.

You've got perhaps the best quarterback. We've seen it before from Lamar Jackson. You've got Kamara and Henry. And we'll see what you do with number three receiver. But you filled out the rest of your roster well. Godwin, Cooks, and the two UNC running backs. Good job. So now I'm interested to see what Myles Gaskin goes for here.

Because people don't have that much money left. So now you've got to feel bad about Michael Carter and Javante. Or maybe you don't. But Myles Gaskin just went for $7. Yeah, I mean, I'm always going to go with the running backs. I tend to trend young, go with the rookies. That's been a proven strategy. So, like, Gaskin, I think, actually will hold the job for the year.

But I'm more excited about Carter, you know, to draft Carter and Williams, obviously. Okay. Yeah, so Jamie. It's also an example of Jamie who saved his budget and waited and waited and waited, and now here he is coming through to get a couple of bargains. I think there's no two ways about it.

I think Gaskin at seven is a bargain. Yeah. And so Jamie has Stafford, Clyde, Edward Ziller, and Gaskin, Tyreek Hill, Jonu Smith, and the Rams. I don't know. And he's got tons of dough left, so he can pick who he wants at receiver. Right.

So it doesn't really matter who I want, because Jamie's just going to get all of those players. Right. Jamie could have his pick now. And I think he's probably going to end up with Daryl Henderson. Mike Davis is not on the board. I think Davis went early. Yeah, I nominated him.

He went for eight. A lot of backup quarterbacks being nominated for a dollar right now. Heath got Nicole Hardman for $2. Okay. Should we take a look at another team? We haven't looked at Joe's team in a while. Let's take a look at Joe's team. Oh, I have to nominate our player.

Okay, Joe, take us through your team as I nominate a player. Okay. I have Ryan Tannehill, quarterback for $2. Dalvin Cook at running back for $31. I have DK Metcalf at $19. Terry McLaurin at $16. I have DK Metcalf at 19, Terry McLaurin at 16. I have Adam Thielen at six, and I have the Dolphins defense at one.

So I really like my receiver group. This was my strategy with the receiver group. Again, that $2 bid for Tannehill is really chafing my ass right now. No, come on. You're fine. Even though it's, it's fine. But like when I see Aaron Rogers and go for one and Dak Prescott go for two,

um, it just reminds me of sometimes like, you know, even what you think is a goodbye sometimes isn't, but all in all, I feel, I feel okay about this team. I feel like I've done a decent job,

um, getting, uh, getting players on this team. Yeah, you really have. You still don't have an RB2, but you have Metcalf, but Hero RB, as you said.

Metcalf, McLaurin, Thielen, Dalvin Cook, Tannehill. You know, as far as the quarterback values go, Aaron Rodgers going for one doesn't surprise me. I've done plenty of salary cap drafts with this group, the core of it anyway. Dak going for two was just weird. He should have gone for four or five like all the other players in his tier. That was one of the better values. That was just one of the weird ones. Yeah. Dak going for two was just weird. He should have gone for four or five like all the other players

in his tier. That was one of the better battles. That was just one of the weird ones. Yeah. Antonio Brown for four. Daryl Henderson is going to be really interesting.

I want somebody to nominate him. He's at the top of my key. Yeah, I think he's going to go for about 10. Gaskin went for... Oh, here we go. All right.

So the next best running back... 10 would be interesting if he gets to 10. I don't know if that's necessarily a sign of how we all feel about him as much as it is the people who are left with money to spend are spending it. That's exactly what it is. And Henderson, he's up to nine right now to Joe. The next best running back in Dave's ranking, Kareem Hunt, Mostert, Edmonds,

Trey Sermon. So now he's up to 10. Gaskin just went for 7. 11. I knew Jamie was going to get Daryl Henderson. I knew it. Yeah. Oh, 12 on Daryl Henderson.

This feels too rich, Dave, for you, I think. Hunt slash Mostert. Cardinalsinals guys are gonna go super cheap i was just looking into kareem hunt i think he's got the potential to be well yeah really bad this year i because because i i saw the carries that he had in the first three games of the season before nick chubb got hurt. And a lot of them were in garbage time. One of them was a blowout loss. One of them was a big win. He is clearly

the second fiddle. Raheem Most are being nominated now. He's clearly the second fiddle. There's no question there. And sorry, I lost my train of thought. And he doesn't have the role in the passing game that he had in 2019. So,

I don't know. I'm not going to have much Kareem Hunt. Raheem Mostert for $4. Melvin Gordon for $2 was, I think, a pretty good value. You don't know how that one's going to play out. Gordon had a good year last year.

All right, Will Fuller being nominated now. Oh, we passed pick 100. We're at 105. 106, Will Fuller. $2 right now to Heath. Come on, Dave, get in there. I'm

waiting for a couple other receivers. Wait, why can't I? There we go. $3 to Heath. Come on, Dave, get in there. I'm waiting for a couple other receivers. Wait, why can't I? There we go. $3 to me. You told me to get in there, and then you bid. Yeah, right. Somebody has to. Will Fuller, yeah, $3 on Will Fuller.

I'm just kind of filling out my roster now. I will not be getting Devontae Smith, unfortunately. That was a player I really wanted. It filling out my roster now. Well, yeah. I will not be getting Devante Smith, unfortunately. That was a player I really wanted. It's not going to happen. A lot of good players left. You say that now. So my max bid is $2.

Chris, yours is $1. Yep. So what the heck? What are we going to do? What are we going to talk about for the next half hour? We can talk about Chase Edmonds going for seven. There was a little bit of a bidding war between Joe and Drew here for Chase Edmonds. And seven is a decent amount.

Same price as ETN, buck more than Josh Jacobs. You either really like Chase Edmonds or you're seeing the running back drain, Joe. I don't love him, but PPR, I like him a little bit more. Yeah, I mean, but when you think about it, though, oh, crap. No, I missed my nomination here because of that. Oh, there goes playoff Lenny, which is fine. Yeah, it's just the PPR, I'm just going to try it. What I'm going to try to do is just throw a bunch of darts

at the running back position now. Quite frankly, Leonard Fournette for $1 is not a bad one. All right, I'll take that dart. The question now becomes with somebody like Leonard Fournette, now that we have to talk about him because I accidentally nominated him and drafted him, is anything like his playoff run in his range of outcomes this year? I don't think so.

Not without a Ronald Jones injury. If Ronald Jones gets hurt, then absolutely, but I don't see how it could be a Ronald Jones screw-up. He was really good in the playoffs. He was really bad in the regular season, though. He hasn't even had a good career. He was bad in the regular season. Ronald Jones was so much even had a good career like he was bad in the

regular season ronald jones was so much better than him leonard leonard fournette was inactive in like week 13 and then ronald jones got hurt and fournette just happened to be able to get the job back but ronald jones was so much better than him and i think he is but they don't like like brady doesn't like uh passing with jones in the backfield so that's always going to kind of favor four net but really you just it there's so much uncertainty because i think it's going to be a hot hand approach one guy could win the job for a few weeks the other guy could you know win the job for the next few weeks but i think the thing about four net is he's going to get the pass down work over ronald jones for the most part you now you're gonna have you know but you have giannard or

the other wrench is bernard he's actually been the one guy who i've really been drafting a lot of um i don't actually hate the price on any of those guys like i think you can justify it for all of them just say like so you know especially in best ball where you're like why at least i get the spike weeks um but bernard's been the guy I've been drafting the most of just because on the off chance he turns into James White, that's going to be a really productive player. What about his range of outcomes? Let me give you a crazy one.

Him being the James White joke, completely agree. I think that's absolutely what he's going to be. What if Rojo messes up? Fournette messes up? Maybe one of them gets hurt on top of it. Is it possible that Gio works his way, even if one of them messes up and the other one's fine, maybe he works his way into playing a little bit more

of that running downs role on top of being the passing downs guy. That's absolutely within his range. And we're talking about a real late round pick with Bernard. There are people that don't even have Bernard on their radar right now. And in a PPR, in a salary cap draft for a buck worth it round 13 worth it yeah i think it's all there for him on a site like underdog where the wide receiver adps have gotten quite frankly stupid like they're dumb like like it's like people are, people are so wide receiver drunk. Like Gio Bernard is like an essential part of like how, how you have to build like a running

back group over there. At least to me, because like, there's very few guys down there who have the kind of upside he offers without somebody getting hurt. Like you can look at, oh, you know, yeah. Could Devante Booker be a league winner if Saquon gets hurt again? Sure. But Gio Bernard could have value even if nobody gets hurt. So the thing about Gio, yeah, he figures to play on passing downs. He's also going into his ninth season. His yards per catch has been pretty bad the last three years of his career. I'm just not, I don't think he's, I don't know. I don't know if he's good anymore, to be quite honest. It's something to consider. He's not, he's no spring chicken, and I don't think he's, I don't know. I don't know if he's good anymore, to be quite honest. It's something to consider. He's no spring chicken, and I don't think he's James White. I think what's going to happen is, you remember a couple years ago, the year right before they got Brady,

they had a three-headed monster, and Dare Agunbowale was the pass down back. He got 11 carries and 46 targets in 15 games. I think that's the role that arians kind of sees for bernard you don't really have to run him much especially between the tackles but he you know brady's going to enjoy having a more polished pass down back uh in the backfield and uh yeah somebody if one of the two gets hurt then he can step into that number two role but i kind of see him as that Agumbo Awe and them going back to a little more of that three-headed monster that they had in 2019. All right.

I tried to get Devontae Smith for $2. I thought that was a smart nomination. Yeah. Well, that's my max bid. And Joe got him for $3. I thought maybe if I had engaged Joe a little bit more about Giovanni Bernard, he would keep over Devontae Smith. I'm just trying to go for some upside receivers right

now. I got Mike Williams and Devontae. I've heard out of their camp that Devontae Smith has been spectacular when he was out there, but I'm not worried about the injury at all quite frankly. He's out there working on the jugs machine. I think they're being careful with a player who they really need this year.

Yeah, I thought he would go for more than three. I took Will Fuller for $3. If I had known I could have spent that on Devontae Smith, I would have. But I also think Will Fuller could be underrated. I mean, in terms of yards per target, he is the man. He is absolutely elite, or he has been. Is that a Deshaun Watson thing? I don't know.

But when Will Fuller's been on the field, he's a very good player. We'll see how that translates in Miami. As James Conner now, there's a $4 bid. Drew's got $4 on James Conner. We're checking on Drew's team. We haven't heard from Drew in a little while. Got him for

$4. Yeah, alright. Let's see what Drew's team is looking like now. $4 for Conner. Wilson at quarterback. Carson Dobbins at running back. Mike Evans and Alan Robinson at wide receiver.

Miles Sanders at flex. Noah Fant at tight end. And Melvin Gordon and James Connor on the bench in the Bills DST. Another solid squad. No superstar. At least no first round pick maybe not a second round pick but a lot of third and fourth round guys yeah it's not my favorite favorite build um but i do have some some excellent depth and i like

all of the players that I have. But you're absolutely right. There's just not a lot of top end here. So that's probably a mistake. But do you feel like you have guys that could be? In a full PPR league, I feel like Dobbins' ceiling is a little capped. But Carson and Sanders, do you feel like they have a realistic path to being a top 10 running back?

I don't know about a top. I feel like they could be low-end RB1, but I think Dobbins is one of those guys that I understand in PPR people aren't really excited about him, but I think his floor is exceptional. Would anybody be shocked if he scored 15 touchdowns? So I do think there is upside there. And like I said, I have a lot of depth.

I love my depth. And like the team, I'm just not sure I'm in love with the team. All right. I like Joe's pick of Trey Lance for one. Same price as Aaron Rodgers. Just wanted to remind Joe of that. That's a league winner, guys. Absolutely.

The way I look at it is, okay, if we were playing this league out, which we're not, Ryan Tannehill has a week 13 buy. Right. So he has a super late buy. If Ryan Tannehill is just a solid starter, I don't need to use Trey Lance for any number of weeks. And then I'm holding that upside.

That's a way for me to create potential value if I don't get that running quarterback. Well, if Trey Lance takes that job anytime before week 13 and he's my backup quarterback, as long as I can hold him on my bench, that creates some upside there. Jamar Chase. We haven't had a guy go for a lot of money

in a little while here, although I thought LaVisca Chenault for $5 was interesting. Cortland Sutton also went for $5. I thought it was, too. He went for the same as Higgins, $10. Jamar Chase for $10. And this is a situation where Jamie... I don't think Jamar Chase for $10 is overpaying,

but Jamie just has a lot of money, so you might say, for $10 is overpaying, but Jamie just has a lot of money. So you might say, oh, you're overpaying, but really he's saying, well, these are the best guys left. I'm just going to take them. I don't care what I spend. So he got LaVisca Chennault for $5. I'll just say I think that's too much. I was waiting for this guy.

And Jamar Chase for $10. Darnell Mooney here is a $2 bid. Who is this, Joe? You said you were waiting for him? I was waiting for Mooney. has a $2 bid. Who is this, Joe? You said you were waiting for him? I was waiting for Mooney. I just figured there was going to be the guys that have the money, like Jamie and Drew and Heath. I thought we were going to be in on him.

I'm a little surprised he only went for three. I'm surprised he went for three. Yeah, he's a... I thought he'd stay right at two. Aaron Rodgers went for one. Yeah, $3 for Mooney. So Jamie just got Chenault, Chase, and Mooney for $18. And Joe got Terry McLaurin for $16.

This is the guy I wanted. I just knew based on how my team was built, I wasn't going to be able to... Based on how the room was, I didn't think I was going to be able to, based on how the room was, I didn't think I was going to be able to get Judy and it turned out to be the case. I mean, Judy's at $11 right now. This is outrageous.

He's at $6 more. I agree, I didn't like bidding $10, but. $6 more than Cortland Sutton. And Jamie got it. And again, take these prices with a grain of salt because Jamie obviously has to go to the bathroom. He just got four wide receivers. The last four

players all went to Jamie. Chennault for five, Jamar Chase for 10, Mooney for three, and Jerry Judy for 11. Jamie ate like week old sushi, I think. So we'll probably see him in a little bit.

Marquez Calloway. All right. Dollar bid. His team is done. Interesting. I don't know. He needs. Does he need one of the receiver?

I guess he needs one. I think Jamie is. He has a nine dollar max bid and nine dollar. Right. Here's somebody I really like. I put two dollars on Henry Ruggs. I don't think anyone's going to go three. But year two receiver,

first one off the board, and first one off the board last year, so hopefully for a bounce back, and I got him for $2. All right, good for you. All right, Paris Campbell you. All right. Paris Campbell now being bid on. So now everybody's just kind of nominating, I think, players they like.

Heath has a lot of money left. Heath has $20. At this point, you should also look at the max bid. Like Dave has $16, but you only have two spots left to fill, right? Right. So my max is $15. Yeah. Drew's got $23, but three spots left to fill so

he can basically do whatever he wants he can get whoever he wants they're the best available players according to dave trey sermon david johnson ronald jones kenyan drake not bad players and then you've got all the handcuffs, basically. You've got A.J. Dillon. I didn't see Latavius Murray still there. We'll see what those players do. How about Goddard for a buck? That's good. That's another sleep at the wheel. How many people have a max bid of one?

One, two, three. Jamie dropped the nine on serving. Yeah, I hate when that happens when I just know I'm not going to get a player that I have on my board. I thought Jamie was done. He is now. Okay.

And we can check out his team. All right, let's look at Jamie's team. Stafford, Clyde Edwards-Elair and Miles Gaskin, Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase, Odell Beckham, Herb Smith, Kareem Hunt. I got to say, this is the worst team I've ever seen from Jamie. This team is terrible. You say that twice a month.

This team is awful. This is the worst team. It is terrible. I agree. Usually, Jamie's strategy works really well for these. I'm always like, oh my gosh. This is one of the worst ones from Jamie. Yeah, he just skipped out on all of the high-end players.

Oh no, he has Tyreek Hill and Clyde. But still, this is a bad team. So look over his roster. Who would be his second-round pick? Maybe Edwards Hilaire? Yeah. Tyreek Hill. Who would be his third-round pick?

Miles Gaskin. And then Jamar Chase. And then Kareem Hunt. And then Beckham. I mean, yeah, this is a Jerry Judy, Trey Sermon.

It's okay. It's a bad team. It's a bad team. He did, and this, he played it too conservatively, and that's why he was able to get, oh, he had Daryl Henderson, right? Daryl Henderson makes his team a little bit better. Is Henderson on there?

No, I thought he had Daryl Henderson. I don't think he got him. Remember I said, Jamie's going to get Daryl Henderson. And then I don't think he got him. Really? Well, either way, he waited a little bit too long.

He got Daryl Henderson. and he uh look at drake going for six same as jacobs yeah that's really just he was the only guy left that i really felt like had some nice upside so that was really all that was that was my last Nice. So now here's another strategy. If you're down to a dollar bid, only dollar bids like I am, do you nominate someone you want? Because if you nominate someone that's even decent, someone can easily just drop $2. Or do you try to wait another round of nominations

and hope that player is still there? Yeah, but if you get somebody who you don't want, because remember, your roster spots are finite, too. You can't just be like, oh, I'm just going to keep bidding $1 until I get the guy I want. So that's the chicken game at the end of these that makes

them really interesting. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Heath gets Marvin Jones. Let's take a look at Heath's team since he had Josh Jacobs for $6. And he has Mahomes, Nick Chubb, and Swift. Juju, DJ Moore, Antonio Brown, Mark Andrews, Josh Jacobs.

This is a very interesting team with Marvin Jones and Mikko Hartman on the bench. Hmm. What do you guys think about this team? Again, it's Mahomes Nick Chubb and Swift. Flex is Josh Jacobs Juju DJ Moore and Antonio Brown at wide receiver and Mark Andrews at tight end. I think I like that team. That's a talented team that Jacobs that was a value for Jacobs was like six bucks. Yeah. That was a value for Jacobs. It was like six bucks. Yeah, that was a great value.

And then again, let's play the game of where would these guys go in a snake draft. I think Chubb would be a first-round pick. Second-round pick, probably Swift. Third-round pick, Mahomes would probably be the closest thing to a third-round pick that he's got, maybe more. Andrews is four jacobs would be four well but like i mean i don't like nick chubb in round one or swift in round two basically you know they're borderline sure but okay fine then maybe the better way to just look at it is look at who the round four and five picks are. I think he's got Juju, Moore, Andrews, Jacobs,

all qualifying as that. The other thing, he does not have a single player that went for $20. Heath. His most expensive player is Nick Chubb at $19. For context, in case you've forgotten, Dalvin Cook, McCaffrey was $35. Cook, I think, was $32.

Kamara, $31. Then, like, Mixon, Barkley, Chubb went for 19. All those running backs were around 20 bucks. Tyreek Hill, 24. Devonta Adams, 26. Heath does not have a single player of $20. He built a pretty good roster, but his receiving core has a lot of concerns. A lot of upside, but a lot of concerns. DJ Moore, Juju Smith-Schuster, Antonio Brown.

I would like this team better if he had a $1 or $2 quarterback and freed up $10 instead of having Mahomes and could have used that at a running back or wide receiver. But you can definitely build a good team without spending a ton of money on one individual player. David Johnson for $2 to Dave. And mostly dollar bits now. I think we can end the podcast.

I do want to thank all of our participants. How did you guys think it went? Drew, what was your overall thoughts on the salary cap draft today? Well, you know, like I said, I feel like this is a really tough room. And I maybe hung back a little bit too long at the beginning getting a high-end running back. But other than that, I feel great because I love my receivers, and I ended up getting six running backs that I like. And so if I'm not in love with the team, I do feel like for a 12-teamer,

it's really, really deep to the back of the roster. So I feel okay. All right, Chris, how about you? Your overall thoughts today? You know, I think my team is pretty top-heavy. I maybe should have spent, I kind of wish I had gone with a receiver instead of one of, probably Williams.

But, you know, I'm feeling, you know, intrigued by the team, but, you know, not loving it too much. I'm sorry. I hope you were okay nominating Eric Ebron. Dave, can we take that back? Sure. All right, let's let Chris nominate someone else.

Let Chris do it. Wait a minute. Who doesn't love Eric Ebron? I actually have drafted him a ton as a tight end three in best of all. Sure. Yeah. I don't know if I'd draft him in a salary cap. No, he's not drafted in the league like this.

At least not at this point, but that's a better one. All right. And Joe, you can conclude with your thoughts. Yeah. So I think I was able to execute my strategy pretty well. Maybe spent a little bit too much on Chase Edmonds, but I knew I was going to get a quote-unquote number two running back. That was much more of a number three. And with Dalvin Cook on my roster, I'm just going to try to cobble together that RB2 each and every week.

I think my receivers are loaded. DK Metcalf, Terry McCorn, Adam Thielen, Mike Williams, Devontae Smith, I think is a really good group of receivers. I'm happy with that. I don't know what I'm – I have A.J. Dillon up right now. So I see – I'm out of money. Just like – and then I'll be fine drafting uh at this point a two dollar player yeah aj

dylan's my fourth running back i have my nomination of four net was accidental but at for one dollar honestly i don't mind that pick at all that's somebody i can shuffle on and off my roster um i got aj dylan um so my running backs are cook, Edmonds, Dylan, and Fournette. Logan Thomas, my tight end, is my favorite value buy at the entire position. $2. Dallas Goddard went for one, which I also think was really good. But overall, I'm relatively happy with how this team turned out.

All right, Dave. Well, it was fun. I had a good time. It was fun. I built a weird-ass team. Don't know how I quite did it, but I'm a good time. It was fun. I built a weird-ass team. Don't know how I quite did it, but I'm happy with it. Look, balance is always good in fantasy, and that includes when you go ahead and join

a salary cap draft and you don't go top-heavy. I think my roster is an example of that, and I think we learned a lot of really good things today from everybody's participation, and this was a lot of fun for sure. Yeah. And as far as I'm concerned,

yeah, I more or less stopped paying attention after I drafted McCaffrey because I knew I basically had the league wrapped up. So, you know, but thank you guys. Thank you all for joining us. Thanks so much for listening.

Our guests today, Chris Rabon of the action network at Chris Rabon, R A Y B O N. Drew Davenport of football guys at Drew FBG Auctions. And Joe Dolan of FantasyPoints.com at FG underscore Dolan. Thanks to Dave Richard and Ben Schrager. I am Adam Azer, and we'll talk to you next time on Fantasy Football Talk.