Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (08/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Bailback time. Love it. We love time. Love it. We love it. Happy weekend, everybody. Whether you're watching on Friday or listening on Saturday or whenever you might be consuming this content, hope all is well in your world and hope you're ready to dominate your fantasy football league.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Your email's at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com, the letter I. Your Apple podcast questions, leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts. And after the review, ask us a question. And Dan, guess who decided to show up and grace us with his presence today? Look who it is. You're right.
Starting point is 00:02:13 It is like a treat when we get Jamie on the mailbag. It's like he used to be a regular on the mailbag. Then it's like, all right, guys, I'm on today, but I have a deadline. So you got to get it done by this amount of time. And he's a busy guy, though, Adam, you know, especially this time of year. This was actually the first time you invited me. That's a Schaefer thing. Or Thomas did.
Starting point is 00:02:32 You're always invited, man. No, it's good to have Jamie. We only have him for about 20 minutes. Stan, I see you got a haircut there. You must have gone to the barber and said, make me look exactly the same as I did before I walked in here. I don't know if that's the case.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I feel like we got, you know, people have been commenting and complimenting me on the, I went, I did a little bit of change. I said one on the sides. I'm usually a two on the side kind of guy. Went for the one. And you know, some people have liked it. So I like it. You look good, man.
Starting point is 00:02:56 All right. Real quick. I have a contest. Do you like to go get a haircut and look completely different? Is that what your goal is? Yeah. I don't know what Adam expects. It's not my goal.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Adam's big thing. Adam's big issue with my haircut in general is like that. It know what it's not my goal adam's big thing adam's big issue with my haircut in general is like that it always looks the same as if that's a bad thing isn't that what we want i guess so but like you know it doesn't yeah anyway um i have a contest uh before you know we'll do this throughout this show it's a team name contest i'm really struggling with a team name for my FFT Open League. So I sent Dan my roster. It's Burrow, Barkley, Pollard, Ridley, Deontay Johnson, Njoku, and Ken Walker.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Dan, one of us has to come up with it. We have to come up with a team name. We have to figure out who's going to come up with a better team name for my squad. Here we go. I got mine right away. Really? Go ahead. What is it?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Bark twice if you're in Kenwalkie. I don't think I can do better than that. That's pretty good. Not bad, right? Not bad. All right, let's read some emails. It's not bad. Jamie has a little anchorman throwback. I got two players in there. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Actually, terrific. I didn't even catch the anchorman thing. You win. Jamie has to leave soon, so let's go to the emails. Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com This is from Colin. If the Colts trade Jonathan Taylor and pick up Kareem Hunt, when would you draft Kareem Hunt?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Around 10, maybe? The earliest? Like where I would look at Zeke? Interesting. I might be a little more bullish on it than that. I just don't really trust Deion Jackson, Zach Moss. But I guess they probably would still have a decent size role. Offense won't be that good, but it will be explosive.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I might go around eight. I said around nine or ten after A.J. Dillon, Brian Robinson, Antonio Gibson come off the board. Also, Dan, I wonder how you feel, but I know how Heath and Dave felt about, well, certainly how Heath felt about Thursday night. Jamie said something off the air. Am I the only one that was concerned that Anthony Richardson was five for
Starting point is 00:05:08 17 against the Eagles backups? Cause the guys were like raving about him and his rushing abilities. Like, you know, he has to throw the ball too, right? Well, this is the big thing with Richardson for this year.
Starting point is 00:05:20 A lot of people are focusing on the rushing upside, which I respect. And I'm as bullish as some of these guys are in some ways. And I like swinging for fences in general and fantasy, but if they're punting a lot, they're not going to be scoring a lot of touchdowns and that's going to kill your fantasy value. So I do think there should be concerned with him keeping the offense in rhythm and keeping them on the field and not having them punt all the time. So I think there's something with that, but this is what we expected, right? I don't think we came in here expecting Shane Syken to make him a 70% completion type quarterback.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It's going to be boomer bus style offense. Jamie, what are your official thoughts on Anthony Richardson's performance on Thursday night? Um, I, I mean, look, five for 17 is probably what you should expect. Like that's the type of player he's going to be. You know, I know you, like you said, it's against the backups, but he, this is his second preseason action in the NFL and he's still learning. There's going to be growing pains. It's going to be, you know, an evolution. Did he, did he get better from preseason game one to preseason game three, you know, essentially preseason game one to preseason game two. Yes, he did. And so that's the progression, you know, and so he, he, he escaped a pressure situation that most quarterbacks take a sack and he turned into a positive game.
Starting point is 00:06:30 He threw a couple of balls that not a lot of quarterbacks can make those throws. And so as he just continues to progress and get better, you hope that those things start to evolve for him. So don't expect him to walk in and be Jalen Hurts last year. Expect him to walk in and be Jalen Hurts' rookie, or whenever he played, stepping in for Carson Wentz. Expect him to be probably Justin Fields last year. I think he'll be more advanced than Fields as a rookie. He's going to get great coaching.
Starting point is 00:07:01 He's going to have the opportunity, especially if John Taylor's not there, to do a lot of things in his offense that he may not have done if Taylor is there. I'm excited. Next email at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com is from Al. Dear Nick,
Starting point is 00:07:16 Tony, Mark, and Ramondre. Who's Ramondre? Well, Ramondre Stevenson's the only Ramondre I know, but probably uh 12 team half ppr league um oh i know what this was this was uh this guy's team he wants to know if this in this half ppr league uh from the 10 spot if zero wide receiver works did he execute it right? And here is his team. It is Nick Chubb, Tony Pollard, Mark Andrews, Ramondre Stevenson, and then at 58th overall in round five, he took DJ Moore, Trevor Lawrence at quarterback,
Starting point is 00:07:56 Jahan Dotson, Jordan Addison, JSN, Sky Moore, Rashad Bateman, Devon A-Chain, Jalen Warren, and Rashawn Johnson. So his starting lineup is Lawrence, Chubb, Pollard, DJ Moore, Jahan Dotson, Mark Andrews, and then like Jordan Addison, JSN, Sky Moore, Rashad Bateman, Devon A-Chain, Jalen Warren, and Rashad Johnson on the bench. Jamie, did he make it work? Did he make zero wide receiver work? Yeah, I think he did.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I mean, you know, DJ Moore is a top 15 caliber wide receiver, you know, depending on where you're looking and how he's ranked. And then he took some good dart throws. And I think the best thing about it is he's got some guys who can turn it to trade chips. You know, so it's not a bad place to be. You know, I would be trying to shop Jalen Warren right now because this may be as high as his value is. He may get better.
Starting point is 00:08:47 There's no doubt about it. Najee Harris gets hurt or they decide to make this more of a split. But you may be looking at somebody that went a little bit more heavy wide receiver and you can get, let's say, a Tyler Lockett, a Mike Williams, somebody else that can help your team. Because if the three guys that you drafted early, Chubb Pollard and Ramondre stay healthy, Warren's not cracking that lineup without a Najee Harris injury. So I would be shopping that type of player to try and get another wide receiver. I mean, I love this team, but that's because you got DJ Moore 58th. I don't know if you're
Starting point is 00:09:18 going to be able to do that. That's my only concern about waiting that long. You might be looking at more of something like Chris Godwin as your number one wide receiver instead of DJ Moore. But half PPR though is a little different. Full PPR, I think you'd be surprised. Half PPR would not be shocking to see a player like DJ Moore get into the 50s. Well, yeah, the 50s, yeah, but it's the end of the 50s, but it
Starting point is 00:09:38 worked out. Because his ADP is like 52 on Fantasy Pro, so that's full PPR. Alright, fair enough. Good job. This, this one, uh, is from when does football start? My goal this year is to draft the all on team, which will be comprised of guys with names that end in on.
Starting point is 00:09:54 So far, I have Aaron Bijon, Saquon, Damian, Jackson, Trelon, Roshan, Devin Dalton,
Starting point is 00:10:03 Jamison, Deonda. Is this a league winner Dan Schneier it actually looks like a pretty damn good team but my issue with it is his
Starting point is 00:10:11 you know what are we doing Dalton first of all it's not Dalton right and there was a few others in there
Starting point is 00:10:17 that were definite stretches with this with this strategy with this Damian Jackson Traylon Roshan Damian Pierce right
Starting point is 00:10:24 well I mean you get a Mondrian there Stevenson? Stevenson, yeah, I'm good with that Richardson, yep, could do that Alright, this is from Joe Who's a better running back from week 4 on? Did you catch what just happened there, Adam? No. Dan was upset with Dalton
Starting point is 00:10:40 I said Stevenson, he agreed with me That's right, because it's Dalton Kincaid It's Dalton. I said Stevenson. He agreed with me. That's right. It's Dalton, Kincaid. What about Stevenson? It's not Dalton, Kincaid. It's not Stevenson. It's Stevenson. You're right. It is Stevenson. You're right, Jake.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Who's a better running back from week four on, James Cook or Alvin Kamara? That's a great question. I'm going to say Cook. Oh oh you're gonna go cook okay i mean i cook and pierce are my favorite running backs from the tier two three range that i'm just drafting all all off season continue to now finally the price is catching up so i love them but camara is an interesting one to me because their schedule is so easy i think car ultimately improves his outlook in my mind. But will Jamal Williams take everything from the red zone from him?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Because then we're losing a lot of value there. And that I still think is up in the air because they don't think they're a better team in the red zone with Williams versus Kamara, in my opinion, because you can do more and you can be more multiple with Kamara on the field and you can be passing or running. But they may view it as Williams is so efficient down there that let's get him in for the majority of those snaps. And that will definitely really hurt Kamara's value.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I think the thing you got, you got to look at is who's got more competition, right? You know, you alluded to this is Damien Harris and Latavius Murray worse than Jamal Williams, Kendra Miller and Taysom Hill. But actually,
Starting point is 00:12:03 Jamie, you got to remember Josh Allen. That's what I thought you were going to go withom Hill. But actually, Jamie, you've got to remember Josh Allen. That's where I thought you were going to go. Josh Allen is major touchdown in competition. Factor in Josh Allen 100%. That should absolutely be the case. But I think just in terms of the traditional running back touches, like how much is Kamara losing?
Starting point is 00:12:19 And look, we saw it last year. He did not look good down the stretch. Byproduct of the offense, byproduct from coming off the field, who knows, you know, maybe now that the whole suspension thing is behind him because that was, you know, still a looming scenario. He didn't know his fate. You know, we didn't expect to be suspended last year, but he didn't know what was going to end up happening. You know, those things might play into his psyche.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You never know. But it should be a better offense in New Orleans. I'm just going to lean toward youth here, and I think James Cook's opportunity is probably a little bit better than Kamara. Kamara's still a better player, but opportunity, I think, is favoring Cook. He's 28 years old, Alvin Kamara,
Starting point is 00:12:56 and has not had a run of longer than 30 yards in either of his last two seasons. And that is a major red flag. But I don't know. I mean, I just want to say that that's something that with levion bell with ezekiel elliott those were huge red flags that show they were obviously in decline for some reason i'm a little more optimistic about camara i think it's because in my mind i mean certainly compared to zeke he doesn't have nearly as much wear and
Starting point is 00:13:20 tear he had he's been as far as it just carries go. You see the way Austin Eckler has aged very well. I think when you're not getting smashed at the line of scrimmage, 250 times a year it helps. But I can't get over that. He's been a pretty bad running back, an inefficient running back with no big plays for two straight years, and he's
Starting point is 00:13:39 28. So that is something that you at home are going to have to figure out how you feel about that. And you may have the numbers on this, azer stats on that these aren't even azer stats or real stats but how much two years ago when he was had that productive stretch and fantasy wasn't that buoyed by a lot of touchdown production in a short samples like in a short period of time i i probably should have i wish i had a chance to look this up but i remember him having like a three touchdown game against the vikings or something on a night game and a four touch and i feel like the big plays weren't there was just kind of touchdown dependent and that is in my opinion up in the air with williams there
Starting point is 00:14:11 all right this is from matthew subject is dynasty threesome in a startup dynasty ppr league which of these threesomes do you prefer my homes why, Bijan... Why are you giggling? Oh, I just saw something funny. A roach walked across my room. That's not funny. What's so funny about that? Scary, if anything. Disgusting. Mahomes, Bijan, and Olave? Or Mahomes, Gibbs,
Starting point is 00:14:39 and Chase? Ooh, that's a fun debate. I will take Mahomes, Gibbs, and chase. Ooh. Yeah. That's a fun debate. Uh, I will take my homes, Gibbs and chase. I will too. And I think that says a lot about what you should do.
Starting point is 00:14:53 If you have Bijon on your roster right now and you're in a rebuilding mode, like I currently am in one league that I inherited the, uh, Yolo league. So I think I need to try to move Bijon pretty fast because I agree with Jamie on that. And I don't know if I want my biggest asset to be at the running back position.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Well, I mean I guess the difference would be is, I wasn't necessarily looking at it from that perspective, but you might be right. Who are you trading Bijan? You're going to try and turn Bijan into Chase or Jefferson? Basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I mean, I'm the Jefferson manager. You're not getting Jefferson from me for Bijan. Gary Wilson's interesting. You might be able to pull that off. That's a trade. I think Heath is the Wilson manager. He might be willing to explore. I was just looking at it more from the perspective of
Starting point is 00:15:42 the best player is obviously chase you know so right okay this is wally from a town north of houston all right he are he tells us what the greeting is dan now can you name the movies these are movie spies dear james jason ethan and austin james jason ethan uh-huh james bond jason born so i got those two right to start and then Ethan and Austin. James, Jason, Ethan, and Austin. James Bond, Jason Bourne. So I got those two right to start. And then what are the other ones? Ethan and Austin. Austin Powers.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I got that one right. And now Ethan. This one's impossible. This is the one I'm going to miss. That's stupid. No, I'm out. This mission is impossible. I'm happy enough to get three or four.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It's definitely possible. And this podcast will self-destruct if you don't answer it. Really? I just told you this mission is impossible. Oh, oh, Mission Impossible. Good job, good job. You know I've never seen Mission Impossible? Am I right about that, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:16:37 Is that Ethan from Mission Impossible? I've never seen it either. That's Ethan Hunt. Okay. You've never seen it either? No. Wow. Any of them.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You're a movie guy. Correct. Never seen them. Oh Wow. Any of them. You're a movie guy. Correct. Never seen them. Oh, my God. I'm just not a movie guy. That's my excuse. I don't know what Acer's excuse is. Roaches.
Starting point is 00:16:52 What happened to the idea of value-based drafting, ranking players based on how much better a player is compared to a baseline player at the same position? It seemed like you talked about it a lot last year, and I haven't heard it mentioned going into this season. Is value-based drafting still a viable draft strategy? I don't know really much about it. I know what it is, but I don't do it.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Dan, I was hoping you did. No, I don't do that at all. But I think we all make it somewhat into our process, right? The reason Travis Kelsey goes so high is because of a value-based drafting style of approach. Yes, yes. But I think the people who use the numbers to do do it i don't think those are i don't think that's a viable strategy personally i never did yeah he also asked what are the downfalls of it it's all based on projections so i feel like if you want to go off of off of your project if you want to stray from projections
Starting point is 00:17:41 because you like a player a lot then you have to get away from the value-based drafting, I think. All right, from Austin. You know, when we go to this long view on the YouTube, by the way, when it's like this long outshot, it really looks like I'm on the can.
Starting point is 00:17:53 This is not a good one for me. We'll do them out to that long view. From Austin, I'm picking 7th in a 10-team full PPR league. If I go receiver- receiver from the seven spot, is it too early to take Jameer Gibbs at 26?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Not at all. No. Yeah. Okay. With Jamie. That's a great play, I think. From Ken. Wide receiver, wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I know it's super last minute, but any chance you guys can talk about salary cap drafts in an upcoming show? So I did this last week because I feel like we can talk about salary cap drafts in an upcoming show? So I did this last week because I feel like we do talk about it on the mailbags maybe, and maybe some people don't hear it. But Dan and I talked about our salary cap or auction strategies. Jamie, give me 30 seconds to a minute on how you should approach salary caps.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I would always nominate players you don't want early. So get some people to bid on those guys, get their money out of the way. I found, I did this in our last salary cap, while most people are looking to acquire the high-end talent, I would try, when it's your turn to nominate a player, to get some of the later round guys that you want. You might be able to get them a little bit cheaper. So like Tank Bigsby, Roshan Johnson, Jalen Warren, people may say, I don't want to, you know, bid on them yet.
Starting point is 00:19:06 They're $1 players. Maybe put them for $2 or $3, depending on what your budget is. So get those guys in early if you can. Maybe you're able to steal a few of those guys, and that's essentially what your bench looks like. And then you have to, I think, just tier your rankings because you want to get in at some point on a tier of a player that you want or a grouping of players that you want, because if those are the guys that you're really trying to target, you don't have to necessarily go to the high end, but you can get a bunch of mid-level guys in those tiers.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You'll be pretty happy about that. And Dan actually did a FFT in 5 with Chris Towers about this, so you can find that in the FFT in 5 feed, or you can look actually on youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. You can find that in the FFT in five feed or you can look actually on YouTube dot com slash fantasy football today. You can find the video there. I don't know when
Starting point is 00:19:51 this person's draft is or salary cap draft is, but we're doing another live draft next Tuesday. So they will have the story on the site. All right. This is from that's a real
Starting point is 00:20:01 league that will play out. Yes. This is from Shant. 10-team full PPR league, three receivers and a flex. I have the sixth pick. I'm hoping of going Cup or Tyreek. After that, I'm thinking about Garrett Wilson or Amonra St. Brown for my second round pick,
Starting point is 00:20:22 which would be about 15th overall. Do you think it would be better to take a running back there? I don't. I love this start again. Go ahead, Jamie. No, go ahead. I just feel like, for me, it's like, this year is so weird with wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:20:39 There is, in my mind, a drop-off after that first and second tier. And if you can get two of those tier one guys, I almost think it's better to race to that than running back. Cause I'm okay with like the Dobbins types, uh, on my roster at running back. I don't feel that same way at receiver. I think it drops off steeper than it ever has.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So for me, I feel like there's the more finite resource is those top tier type receivers. I think the question you want to ask yourself is, do you want to go, let's say it's Tyreek Amara, St. Brown and Travis Etienne?
Starting point is 00:21:08 Or do you want to go Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Derrick Henry, and, you know, if those guys— I was going to say Higgins is probably gone. Like, Ridley might be there. This is a 10-team league, so that's 26. Oh, it's a 10-team league. That's 26. You might get Jalen Waddell there. You might. But you'll get one of Waddell, Olave, Devante Smith, T. Higgins at 26. So, yeah, I wasn't realizing.
Starting point is 00:21:36 If that's the case, then I feel like you might be able to get Mix in there, too. You could, yeah. Yes. Yeah, I think it's a matter of which which running back you're looking at so like if tony pollard falls i would take pollard in round two you know that's probably the only one what about chubb i think that's okay yeah um yeah chubb is fine okay um from jimmy are we sleeping on brock purdy no i sleep i think so my pillow's name is brock purdy but yeah uh i don't find go ahead adam no no we're sleeping on him dan
Starting point is 00:22:11 so for me like i look whenever i do my tears quarterback's the one position where i don't i think the industry ranks it the closest to how it actually be i never find too many values or misranks but purdy's the one in my opinion this year that might be the most misranked. He was QB eight on a per game basis last year, has the best weapons in the NFL, has the best coach in the NFL is not going to need to do much to score fantasy points in my mind. It's just get the ball out on time, get the ball out of his hands quickly. It's essentially what Jimmy Garoppolo did, but I think he's a better quarterback than Jimmy G. You know how I feel about Jimmy G and his inability to play the position, but obviously it was carried by Kyle Shanahan.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Well, Kyle Shanahan's still there in San Fran for Purdy. So I just look at the points per game last year. I think he's going to get better in year two in the system. They bring everyone back. I like Purdy a lot. I have him ranked much higher than consensus. I think the thing you look for is when you get to this point in the jet because nobody i don't know where you haven't ranked in but like i don't i
Starting point is 00:23:09 don't think you're gonna see him top 15 for anybody you know so it's really like after like qb 15 at this point qb 16 you know so the jared goss geno smith russell wilsons of the world matthew stafford you know now we're starting to get into jordan, Kenny picket, um, Howell, Howell, great call. Uh, that's where I think pretty belongs, you know, so somewhere 15 to 20 is, is, is fine for him. Like I would take him over the, the, the two non Anthony Richardson rookies. I would take him over Derek Carr for more upside, not that car's bad, but I think pretty has more upside, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:41 probably over Stafford at this point, just because of, you know, age and lack of weapons. So, you know, if you draft a number one quarterback that you love and you're just looking for somebody that might be a trade option, that might be a good bi-week replacement, Purdy's one of those guys. I don't want to pair Purdy and Anthony Richardson together. I don't think that's smart. So you want to get a little bit more of a sound number two guy. um i think yeah purdy is uh is a great starter in a super flex and 2qb league and you know a potential guy that will exceed his expectations and certainly his draft costs jamie the i don't know if you have time for like two more minutes the last two emails are directed for you okay this one is from chris uh i've heard jamie mention a guillotine
Starting point is 00:24:22 league i think dan's in that too um in said guillotine league. I think Dan's in that too. In said guillotine league format, did the top three quarterbacks move up as far as where you would draft them? I ask this because any one of those three could definitely keep you alive the first week or a few weeks with a little help from the rest of the team. And then you could buy other positions as they become available. Yeah, it's definitely a smart move. You know, I know we had the conversation with Joe P. Sapia.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I think it was one of our live streams or when he was on with us. But he took Mahomes, I think, like sixth overall. And he was the first quarterback to do so, or first fantasy manager to do so. And he did it with the exact, you know, strategy in mind. Like, I know I'm getting 20-plus points without question. You know, you're not a bad day from him. So, yes, that's smart. Like, for me, I waited.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I took Tua as my quarterback. So, yes, it's not a bad way to go.'s just a matter of you know when you're drafting who you're passing up and uh and what your you know risk averse feelings are you know so getting one of those top three guys is certainly a great move that's in a guillotine league and for those of you who don't know a guillotine league is where the lowest scoring team gets eliminated every week and you start out with what 18 teams you play You play 17 weeks? You start out with 18 teams, yep, you go all the way to the end. And then that team's players, right.
Starting point is 00:25:30 That team's players, the eliminated team's players are all available for bidding in a waiver wire, in a FAB process. Last one for Jamie. Mr. Keat says, Jamie, you passed on T. Higgins because you already drafted Jamar Chase. If they're both top 20 talents, why not start them both?
Starting point is 00:25:47 You absolutely can. I mean, you know, you could take Tyreek Hill and Jalen Wall and do the same thing. You know, you might be able to if you really wanted to pull the trigger early enough on A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith. It's just, you know, we saw, I'm trying to think, what was the year Aaron Rodgers got hurt when I think people were drafting Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb together.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You lose the quarterback, you're in trouble. So Burrow goes down. Are you really going to trust both those guys to be starters for you with your first and second round pick? So I don't like to be that risky. But if they hit, you're going to be in great shape. So just understand what you're dealing with. One injury to the quarterback, you could be in trouble. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Before we take a break, I did have a note in here to make fun of Dan. I finished the bear and it was great. I loved it. You talked about your favorite episode. I had a feeling I knew who it was about. And you said, have you seen my favorite episode, Spoons? And I still haven't seen it because the name of the episode is Forks. No, I said Forks or Spoons.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I didn't remember exactly. I knew it was Forks or Spoons, okay? Okay, it's Forks, not Spoons. of the episode is forks. Oh, I said forks or spoons. I didn't remember exactly. I knew it was forks or spoons. Okay. Okay. It's forks. Not, I know it's forks. And I actually knew it was forced at the time.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I think I made some mistake with the, listen, Adam, you know what? The big factor here is, was I right in the take or not that it was the best episode of the season? Let's first answer that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Uh, probably a lot of people say it was that holiday episode. I didn't like the holiday episode as much. Yeah, I won't say it, but I didn't like it as much. Yeah. Yeah. And it was long, the holiday episode. It was a really good show. And also my take on who the best character is.
Starting point is 00:27:16 It's also my take on who the best character in the show is, correct? Oh, yeah. That's an easy one, though. Right. It's like right out of the gate. Yeah. So we'll take a break when we come back we have good apple podcast questions and bad apple podcast questions we'll
Starting point is 00:27:30 be right back on fantasy football today did you know that across ontario utility damage happens 19 times a day that's over 4222 incidents a year don't let your next dig be one that causes costly delays or safety risks. Before you break ground, make it a point to request a locate. It's not just the law. It's a step to keep your team and community safe. Visit OntarioOneCall.ca and avoid unnecessary damages to get the job done right. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Okay, I think you all know what it is. The good podcast questions are the non-keeper ones. The bad podcast questions,
Starting point is 00:28:09 or the bad Apple podcast questions, are the keeper ones. So it's all good, but we prefer the non-keeper ones. We appreciate the... Nobody hates answering keeper questions more than Azar. I mean, it's not that I hate answering them. It's that people hate listening to them.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Nobody wants to hear a question that only one person. Yeah. Joey from Germany, pick one in half PPR, Eckler, Bijan, Kelsey, or Hill.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Who should I pick? And why? Half PPR, Eckler, Bijan, Kelsey, Hill. I go Eckler.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And why the, why is consistent track record, consistent ability in the passing game, consistent ability in the red zone. Those are the three things I look for at the running back position. Good offense, too, by the way. Really good offense.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I think it'll be. Half PPR, if I had 10 drafts, I'd take Bijan probably six times and Eckler four. I don't have a strong preference. I've come off Bijan a come off Bichon a bunch, Adam. I'll be honest with you. Algier.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Because of Algier, because of Arthur Smith, mostly. What's wrong with Arthur Smith? I'm a little scared. Arthur Smith is a great reason for a lot more than he should. That's what's wrong with him. I think he will at the start of the season.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I think, I think Arthur Smith might be coaching for his job, and I think he's done a pretty good job with Atlanta. They're not a super talented team, and they're respectable. But it's time for him to produce. I mean, they've had Pitts, London, Bijan as top 10 picks in back-to-back years. We need a good offense here. And if you're coaching for your job, you know you gotta get bijan robinson on the
Starting point is 00:29:46 field you gotta get him the ball so i i'm not too worried about it i think maybe like a month and it's obviously just a guess and then bijan just is unleashed the one final thing i'll say about adam is just like i was in on bijan early and now the price has gotten incredibly high you just mentioned him like in that mix of like the fourth pick, basically overall. Third. Is it fair to be okay? Third.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Is it fair to be that high on someone on such a bad projected offense? I think so. Cause if Saquon Barkley, I mean the giants, I think they finished 19th in scoring Barkley, McCaffrey. Those guys were RB ones on, on teams that were about 19th or 20th in scoring.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And I mean, look, if the Falcons are going to be 30th in scoring, then Bijan's not going to be worth a top five pick. But if he is worth a top five pick, then the Falcons won't be 30th in scoring. If he's as good as I think he's going to be, I think there'll be a respectable offense. That's fair. Okay, the other part of Joey's question was, P.S., Daniel Jones in 2022, if you were to take away weeks 1 through 6, as well as 8 through 10,
Starting point is 00:30:52 as well as 12 through 16, and week 18, he was a top three quarterback. Are we sleeping on a top 32 quarterback in 2023, Daniel Jones? That was as Acer-statted up as you could possibly Acer stat something. I mean, you really just dug in deep there to Acer stat, you know, Adam, there needs to come, we need to create like a, and by we, I mean, the product team needs to create a, some kind of like
Starting point is 00:31:17 thing where you could like create your own Acer stats, right? Like our, our listeners can jump in and kind of manipulate it to a point where they can come up with their own Acer stats. They can be a lot of fun. That was a good example of one. But as far as sleeping on Daniel Jones goes, my whole dilemma with Daniel Jones this season is simply the schedule. I just feel like it could be a lot bigger. It could be a lot bigger hurdle than people realize as far as him realizing his fantasy potential. I think it could, it's going to be tough, but I think it could actually work in his favor
Starting point is 00:31:47 if you look at his run versus pass attempts in wins versus losses. And if they are facing tougher competition and are losing more, he could be throwing a lot more this year than he did last year. But really, it's really, to me, it's just about, is he good?
Starting point is 00:32:02 Because second year in the system, Dan and I, and any Giantsants fan love Dable and Kafka, the coordinator and head coach. Love the schemes and the creativity. There's a lot of buzz about that. It's just a matter of, is he good enough? We'll find out. I definitely want a little bit of Daniel Jones in my life
Starting point is 00:32:24 for fantasy this year. I really think he has potential to have a huge season. I don't think it's going to happen, but we talk about quarterback breakouts. I feel like he's one of the only ones that really fits the description of a guy who hasn't really been that good, but actually busts out, you know, cause to kind of broke out last year. If he does it for a full season, then he'll do it this year. Rookies, I don't really consider rookies breakouts. Geno Smith, is he going to be better than he was last
Starting point is 00:32:54 year? I don't think so. Maybe Purdy, but a breakout quarterback who hasn't done it yet, but could have a seriously meaningful, impactful, league-winning type of season. Maybe not league-winning, but close to it. I think Daniel Jones is one of the only guys that actually could qualify for that list.
Starting point is 00:33:10 If you don't include Richardson, I would agree with that statement. Do you think that Jared Goff could be on that list? Because I don't see that upside for Goff. He just doesn't run at all. No, because exactly what you just said, he doesn't run. If you're going to break out to me, you're either going to be running or you're going to break out to me, you're going to be running the, you're either going to be running
Starting point is 00:33:25 or you're going to break out as a Herbert type this year, like an elite passer. Right. Okay. Trevor on Apple podcast says, bake burgers are egregious, Adam. Dan, don't ever let it go. I won't.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I would like to make the case that Mike Williams is a good value relative to ADP. Mike Williams value, Mike Williams ADP is 71 overall in PPR. Going around players in the likes of Godwin, Iuke, Pittman, Lockett, Kirk, Mike Evans, who all have great talent, but their quarterback situation is volatile. I don't know that I feel that way about Christian Kirk, that his quarterback situation is volatile, but fine.
Starting point is 00:34:02 The addition of Kellen Moore bringing the high ADOT to the offensive scheme would likely fit his role as well, or likely fit his role well. Herbert is a regression candidate. Consensus is that the team pass rate will be one of the top in the league. Mike Williams is good value at 71. It's so funny where I've been at with Mike Williams this offseason. I mean, our early mock drafts, I was the one drafting him every time because I completely agreed with this statement. Then I started to get off of him for the reason being Quinton Johnson scares me and what his role might be in the offense. Then I came back around because the ADP didn't really move that much, and it's still pretty damn low for what he could potentially offer you. The big issue for Williams for me, though, is a lot of reoccurring injuries to the same areas of the body.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He plays a very physical style. His whole game is jump up, make a contested catch, get your body in the air, show off your great body control. And then sometimes you land wrong and you're out for three, four weeks or something like that. So I think the injury situation is probably my biggest concern there going all in on Williams. And I do think Quinton Johnston will have a role in the offense right away. So I don't know about that anymore because the athletic, I mentioned this on Friday,
Starting point is 00:35:06 the athletic reporting that Josh Palmer is ahead of Quinton Johnston and Palmer is the one in three receiver sets. And Palmer just doesn't scare me from a Mike Williams perspective. Um, sure. I drafted Mike Williams in our first draft back in may, I think. And I look at that team and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:35:22 I don't really like having him in the lineup, but maybe I should. I, you know what I think. And I look at that team and I'm like, ugh, I don't really like having him in the lineup, but maybe I should. You know what I think? I think he's going to be the same guy he's been. He's going to be really boom or bust. And it didn't warrant the third or fourth round draft pick that was used on him last year, but it probably does warrant a sixth round or maybe even a seventh round draft pick this year. So yeah, you're probably right. Mike Williams is probably a good value there. On this list, in PPR, I would take Godwin, Iyuk, and Kirk. In this order, I'd go Kirk, Godwin, Iyuk over Mike Williams. I would take Williams over Pittman and Evans.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And Lockett is so tough because of the JSN injury. Probably not a long-term thing. I guess I would go with Mike Williams over Lockett. You have a big issue with that order. Godwin, no, Kirk, Godwin, Ayuk, Mike Williams, Lockett, Evans, Pittman for me. Yeah, we're not all that close on that. I have Ayuk as the clear-cut first in that list. He's a tier above the rest of those guys for me. Yeah, we're not all that close on that. I buy you because the clear cut first in that list,
Starting point is 00:36:26 he's a tier above the rest of those guys for me personally. And then I would probably go with Williams before Godwin as well. This is for, oh, hold on one second. Dan, what are you doing this weekend? I have to queue up a sound drop. Oh, this weekend I will be doing my new thing. Do not care anymore. This is from Clay Chase Pool.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Don't talk so slowly. This weekend I will be actually. That was a four second. Even as slow as I talked, that was like four seconds. Yeah, well, that's all you had. All right, this is a fantasy cops from Clay Chase Pool. Someone in one of my leagues proposed the keeper rule that if a player was dropped, their previous
Starting point is 00:37:05 draft position would be erased in keeper considerations. I voted against it thinking it would fail, but it somehow passed allowing someone to keep Lamar Jackson around 14 because some bonehead dropped Lamar Jackson last year. Is this rule a thing? Seems massively broken and unfair.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Can you say it one more time, Adam? Yeah, yeah. So the league passed the rule that anyone who was dropped can be kept as a free agent instead of at the round they were drafted in the previous year. So Lamar Jackson is a 14th round keeper.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yes, yes. We've had this issue in leagues of my own in the past. This is a horrific rule. It has to be changed immediately. They need to be changed at the higher... No, that's true. It has to be changed immediately they need to be changed at the higher you know that's true it has to be changed immediately it's a terrible rule yeah it is um we have a rule that says any player picked up after week 12 cannot be kept that's an important start to that rule you make that rule immediately so people don't stay we had so many issues people were stashing like aaron foster back in the day when he was like it was
Starting point is 00:38:01 just horrific stuff but then also they have to be kept at their original value let's not be stupid about this let's do the obvious thing this commission is doing a terrible job by allowing that this is the truth that's a great answer that was really great by the way adam when you get in we forgot remember the fantasy cups i sent you earlier in the week it's better than anything we have here so no offense okay okay i'll squeeze it in there i'll do that up at that text message. All right. All right. This is from J. Fun run.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Dear Sky, Chase and Marshall. That would be the Paw Patrol. I'm pick one on one in a 10 team redraft. Super flex PPR league. It is five point per passing touchdown. Which quarterback should go one on one in a five point per passing touchdown. Which quarterback should go 101 in a five-point-per-passing touchdown league? I have no idea how this is a fantasy, Cops.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Let's start by saying that. It's not a fantasy, Cops. It's not a fantasy. I concluded the fantasy, Cops, with the music. Now we're on to the next one. What about the three fantasy, Cops, I sent you? We'll do that later. Okay. All right. Well, even in no matter what the format is, points, doesn't matter if it's four points for a pass and touch on three points for a pass and touch, and I'll do that later okay all right well even in no matter what the format is points
Starting point is 00:39:05 doesn't matter if it's four points or best in touch on three points for best touch i'll go that low you take one of the quarterbacks with your first no but he's asking which one which one because i take alan in four point i take my homes in six point in five point okay i'll take my home yeah yeah i mean i'm going my homes no matter what, so it's Mahomes for me. All right, this is from Bill in a small town in South Carolina. Love Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and hashtag Dan on the can. 12-team PPR league. Making the switch to super flex with a caveat. We're not using traditional quarterback scoring.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Instead, QB scoring is 35 yards per point, five point per passing touchdown, and minus three points for interceptions. Am I crazy to approach this league more similarly to a regular PPR league with the depreciated quarterback scoring? Yes, you're crazy. Let me start by saying that.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Then I'm going to give you specific advice for this scoring system. So the scoring does not change how you should approach the draft. It's all about position scarcity. When you go to super flex, quarterbacks become the most valuable position by far because 32 start in a week, and you have 12 teams. Let's say this sounds like a 12.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Did he say 12 or 10? Because it does make a difference, Adam. 12. He didn't say. 12. Oh, 12. 12-team super flex. You better fire off at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Cause look, let's say you have, you want to roster three in a super flex, right? You want to have two start two to start every week and then one for the bi-weeks or for injuries. So that means you're trying to draft 30. The optimum outcome here is 36 or draft there. 36 are on a roster and there's only three or 32 that start every week. So no, still fire off at quarterback, still prioritize it like crazy, but you can alter the ones you want to get.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Because I think in this weird scoring format, Adam, you want the running quarterbacks way more. I know it's five instead of four. Don't focus on that. Focus on the fact that instead of 25 yards per point, it's 35, 35. So passing yards are incredibly deflated in this league. A guy like Burrow moves down my list. A guy like Rogers moves down my list.
Starting point is 00:41:08 These types of perfect pocket quarterbacks you love that are thrown for a lot of yards are so much less valuable. So prioritize the running quarterbacks, especially the ones that can actually produce touchdowns, depending on how good the offense is. And make sure you don't change your strategy. And you may be in a good spot here because people may be looking at these rule chains and be like, I don't have to go quarterback. No, they're wrong. You don't do that. You're screwed.
Starting point is 00:41:30 You need quarterbacks. There's only 32 that's here every week. You're fired up today. Yeah, Alan Hurts-Mahomes is my top three in that format. Who's QB4? I would go Hurts-Alan Mahomes. Fair. Alan Hurts-Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I'll take Fields-Jackson as, Allen, Mahomes. Fair. Allen, Hurts, Mahomes. I'll take Fields, Jackson as my top five. Yes. Okay. Yes. Next up, WVU DC fan. In a PPR super flex league with a five-man bench, do I draft the third quarterback? Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:42:00 From Orchids. Come for the great fantasy football analysis, but stay for the cooking and life advice from Adam, like baking burgers and add mustard. If you like them spicy and that wedding anniversary. Is that what you want? I didn't miss that one.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I said that I don't like spicy food. I said, I don't like mustard because it's spicy. And people are like, I know, I know, I know. I tell you,
Starting point is 00:42:23 my kids were eating these potato chips yesterday. I can't really describe them. They're like oil and vinegar, but they're Serrano, I think. They got the spice to it. And they're just like sitting there. Did you mean Serrano? I think the bag says Serrano, but yeah, Serrano's a pepper. Serrano's a pepper.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And a guy in Major League. But they're sitting there eating them, not even drinking water. And I took one bite and I was like, it was brutal. So I just can't do anything spicy. Anyway, where's this question? At least it appears they didn't pass down
Starting point is 00:42:58 through the generations there. At least they don't have that gene. Full PPR League. We already know they got your ppr league and it gives you one point for first down in your opinion does this change your drafting strategy um full ppr one point for first for first down it should in theory give a little bit more value to running backs on good offenses. But no, it won't ultimately change my strategy too much. The wide receivers are still so heavily more important in full PPR leagues.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Well, but keep in mind, first of all, you have to do some research on the first down makers, who makes them. Heath said there was a good formula. I don't remember what it was, but you have to do some research. You have to look up over the past few years, get a few years of sample, like which positions are producing more first downs. But also, do your quarterbacks get points for their rushing first
Starting point is 00:43:51 downs? Because if they do, that changes everything. That is a huge deal. And this is from History Nick. Waller is this year's Sutton for the CBS boys. East Coast bias strikes again. You guys never cover West Coast teams.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And when a player moves to a New York team, you instantly think he's the GOAT. Waller will be a bust at his ADP. You've been warned. You know, let me just say something history, Nick. Cortland Sutton was my guy last year. I will not run away from that. Last I checked, the Broncos don't play on the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I was just going to say the same thing. They're not on the West Coast. We're the West Coast player. I wouldn't call Denver the West Coast, but it's close enough. It's the Mountain Time Zone, but Dan also thought that the Bay Area was like Seattle, so it's all good. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:44:41 That was exaggerated. It was something similar, but not quite that. Yeah, there's no. That was exaggerated. It was something similar, but not quite that. Yeah, there's no East Coast bias here. What'd you say? There's no East Coast bias here. What are your thoughts on Waller? You know my thoughts on him.
Starting point is 00:44:55 I've covered this team pretty extensively, and the entire offense is running through him right now. And so I don't really see, outside of injury, how he's going to be a bust. Yeah, I think he should be pretty good when he's healthy. The offense is running through him, but Blake Barkley didn't play last week, so the offense might run through Barkley, but the passing game will go through Waller.
Starting point is 00:45:13 We'll run through a Waller for him. We've got to take a break. We've got some bad Apple Podcast questions, more fantasy cops, and YouTube when we come back. Here are some keeper questions from Apple Podcast. JMac in Kansas City. Which player would you keep in the sixth round in a 10-team league, PPR,
Starting point is 00:45:30 Waller or Ridley? That's easy to tell. Waller over Ridley? Oh, wait, wait. Sorry, sorry, sorry. For some odd reason, I didn't hear the second part of that. No, it's obviously Calvin Ridley. Such East Coast bias.
Starting point is 00:45:44 You know, technically, I don't know which one is, which is closer to the actual ocean where the Giants. And by the way, I don't really consider the East Coast the same. Like Adam's version of East Coast down in Florida is not like the Northeast Tri-State area. It's a much worse area for a lot of reasons. We went over this in the last mailbag. And we don't really consider them like us.
Starting point is 00:46:07 They're not part of us. I don't know who you're talking about. Which area is not in the East Coast? The Florida or the Northeast? The Florida. It's not part of the East Coast? Not my version of the East Coast. Not the tri-state Northeast Coast.
Starting point is 00:46:23 There's a difference between the Northeast Coast and the Southeast Coast. Right. That's called geography. But you're saying that that. No, it's all about how people act and the things you can do in the area, how close things are. Yeah, but that doesn't.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Convenience, food. But that doesn't mean. People, culture. This is this is not even a take. This is just like an incorrect statement. You're basically saying because the Northeast is culturally different than the Southeast or South Florida, which is actually very different from the South, that Florida is not on the East Coast? It's on the East Coast geographically, but I just don't like it being grouped with the people. You guys are all South Florida guys, right?
Starting point is 00:47:03 And he's saying, oh, you guys have an East Coast bias. I think the East Coast bias is more so up here with the people. You guys are all South Florida guys, right? And he's saying, oh, you guys have an East Coast bias. I think the East Coast bias is more so up here with the Northeast. Okay. And by the way, Adam is in New York these days, but he's from Florida. I am. This is from, I am from, well, I was born in New York,
Starting point is 00:47:19 but I'm from Florida. Jake Illini is in a super flex league with one flex, yeah, super flex league with one flex. Yeah, one flex, one super flex. Would you keep Justin Jefferson at pick 2.1? Justin Fields at 6.1? Yes, Justin Fields at 6.1. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:36 From Chris in New York, which is on the real East Coast from what I understand. Agreed. Yes, it is. Hey, Louie, Jeie, Mike, and Tommy. And those are 90. That's a 90s reference. You think I'm old enough?
Starting point is 00:47:56 That's for you, old geezer over there. Life with Louie. With Louie Anderson. Oh, actually, that's the Louie C.K. show before his big show. No, I think this is a Louie Anderson show. Oh, I don't even... I barely even know who Louie Anderson is. You know Louie Anderson.
Starting point is 00:48:14 You ever see Coming to America? I've heard of him, and I like to know of him. You ever see Coming to America? No. You're pathetic. All right. You know I see movies, but I've seen every great TV show,
Starting point is 00:48:24 so what are you going to do? 12 team, full PPR, Keeper League. I get to keep two at draft cost. I do not have a third or an eighth round pick. And I have the eighth pick. Would you keep Justin Jefferson in the first, Jamar Chase in the first or the second if I keep Jefferson? So you can keep Jefferson and Chase for a first and a second.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Jalen Hurts in the seventh, Ken Walker in the 13th. We're keeping two of them. And he says nothing is better than a grilled burger. Yeah, well, that's correct. I will say this as far as burgers go. Nothing is better than using the smash burger concept. That's really how you make a great burger. That's the tried and true way. And the smash burger concept is much better on a frying pan like a cast iron pan or even like a flat grill than it is an actual grill i will agree with the general point that grilled burgers are the best version of burgers but you don't have to go the smash concept with that you can just do a regular burger on that and overall i still like smash
Starting point is 00:49:17 burger better but back to the question just keep chasing jefferson and have a dominant one two here it doesn't even matter what draft capital you're giving up. You're going to have such an advantage. I can't pass up Jalen hurts in the seventh. It's a super flex or regular. He doesn't have a third round pick. So it's super flex or regular. It's regular.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Okay. Now I'm sticking with chasing Jefferson for sure. All right. I'm going Jefferson and hurts. All right. So let's, uh, you want me to read this you want to get it gone all right give me a little give me time to get it up if i'm going to read it i'm down to read it but give me a little time because yeah you know you were
Starting point is 00:49:57 queuing it up yeah no this is a good one let me get in this right now where i sent to adam okay it's still here okay i got it here's the thing oh i need to get in our text message here give me a second bad radio bad radio bad radio one second here we go okay this is from my friend kevin appenzoller who in his friends league that i think he's also in his friend mark said that let me see the original part of this text oh man do you have the do you have the original up yeah all right so mark says i wanted nick chubb instead of cooper cup but i was late to the draft and it auto picked and the commish paused it after my pick to let people have time to join but wouldn't go back total jerk i was like
Starting point is 00:50:41 you saw it on auto draft and no one picked after me. He said I should have adjusted the rankings if I wanted that. I even showed him a text from like three hours before the draft saying I was hoping Kelsey fell. But if not, I'd take Nick Chubb. He didn't care. All right. So that's the setup of this. Mark was drafting and wanted Nick Chubb. He got auto-picked Cooper Cup. The commissioner paused the draft after that
Starting point is 00:51:06 to let people in, but refused to go back and let Mark draft Chubb instead of Cup. And then he says, it gets worse too. It gets worse. My other friend had the first pick and I texted him asking him to take his full minute
Starting point is 00:51:20 because I was running late. And he said, okay. And then he just didn't do it. He said he got too excited and just hit draft for Justin Jefferson. The last part's amazing. The first part is the fantasy cops part though. Like unbelievable by this commission. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:51:39 This dude, first of all, he tells him who he would have taken. And he's like, I'm going to be late to the draft, but I want Kelsey. If Kelsey's not there, give me job. He doesn't make it to the draft and he gets him who he would have taken. And he's like, I'm going to be late to the draft, but I want Kelsey. If Kelsey's not there, give me Chubb. He doesn't make it to the draft and he gets auto drafted.
Starting point is 00:51:49 So, okay, that's bad to begin with. But, you know, maybe the commission could have given him a chance, go back and give him Chubb. But then he pauses the draft to let other people catch up for them. Like, how do you do this? So what my friend Kevin said, my friend Kevin is a very spiteful fantasy player. Like he'll do, he's the king of the spite drop. If somebody's screwed, like he'll just spite drop guys midweek before waivers.
Starting point is 00:52:11 He's had some other infractions that he doesn't like me talking about now because he did say he's made up for it and time has passed, but he's had some spiteful, spiteful fantasy interactions. He said what he would do in this situation is get really creative. He would drop his, something like drop his entire team, not pay the bot, the bot pretend oh yeah i'll pay the buy-in week two yeah just give me a little time i'll pay the buy-in week two week three and then just spite drop the entire team trade do like a bad trade what would you do adam if this situation happened to you because i know sure as hell i would not be paying for this league i wouldn't uh well i mean i like cup better than chubb anyway unless this is not PPR. Yeah, that's going to make me happy with the situation.
Starting point is 00:52:47 But if that happened to me, I probably would just suck it up. And I'll tell you why. Because, all right, let's say it was I wanted Cup and I was late, but I got auto-drafted Kelsey or whatever. I wouldn't feel, at that point in the draft, I wouldn't feel so strongly about being right about that pick that I would just sort of like let karma, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:09 play its role and see what happens. And I would, what are you going to do? You're not going to, you're not going to play. You have to pay. I would never spite drop my team. That's childish and pathetic.
Starting point is 00:53:19 So I would never spite drop my team. I just wouldn't pay for the league. I tell him you got to find someone else now to take over this team. I'm done because it's just not fair that they caused the draft for other people. I know it's not fair, but I know it's not fair, but you're spiting yourself. You don't get to play fantasy football. And the outcome of this completely unfair thing was not that bad. You got Cooper cup instead of Nick Chubb. So it's, it's not like he got Ramond Ray Stevenson instead of Nick Chubb or something, you know, something that's agreed on everything you said from that standpoint from the principal standpoint from the principal standpoint it is still really bad you can have your principles
Starting point is 00:53:54 but you're not gonna have your fantasy league if it's if your principles are worth it it's different it's different for me because we're in 37 leagues and 29 of those are through work but but um for somebody who maybe only has one league, I guess you just tough it out and play it out. But I wouldn't rejoin that league, Adam. Like, I feel like the commissioner has already proven himself to be
Starting point is 00:54:11 completely unfair and unreasonable. Okay. That's fair. I will do some, uh, some YouTube questions to, uh, to finish off.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But, um, rush man says, my favorite thing to do, go to a party with the wife's friends and start talking about my fantasy team. She loves that. Who are the best stash running backs from Jared? Best stash running backs.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Tank Bigsby. I'll start with Tank Bigsby. I'm going to go Jalen Warren. Jalen Warren is probably not in this discussion anymore. He's risen so much, but yeah. And maybe Bigsby isn't either. No, I think Bigsby and Warren are completely different. I mean, Warren is playing a lot in week one and is good.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I don't see a big difference between Warren and Pirine at this point. Okay, I'm going to go with Bigsby then. I'm going to go with Ty Chandler, who may be my favorite stash of them all. And I'm going to go with Deuce Vaughn as a deep stash. Okay. This is from, oh, Kenneth Gainwell. I don't know if she said him, but Kenneth Gainwell. I'm not in on that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I had him last year and he killed me. I bought it that exact type from last year. Yeah. Unusable. Am I crazy, Josh? Drops by last year. Yeah. Um, unusable. Am I crazy? Josh? Okay. But that's because miles Sanders stayed healthy.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Uh, am I crazy? But now there's two guys. Yeah, go ahead. Am I crazy to take Bijan at the one Oh four? No, not to me.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yes. Adam would say, no, I'm just not as into it, but you're not crazy. It's a swing for the fences. Try to win your league. And I am big on,
Starting point is 00:55:44 if you're not first year, last in fantasy. So you're not crazy. It's a swing for the fences. Try to win your league. And I am big on, if you're not first, you're last in fantasy. So you're not crazy. It's just, I think the price, I just feel like the upside has been sapped by us pushing him all the way up to three or four. Charles says the best,
Starting point is 00:55:55 the best revenge would be to just win baby. You're right, Charles, but I still, then I'm playing in a league with an, with an a whole commish. So what? He probably sucks at fantasy.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I just don't like that. The commish. Who, the commish? Yeah, like if you're that big of a dweeb and you won't back out the pick, then you suck at fantasy. Fair. Brosie Brosum says, the fact that Adam's kids can handle spicy food more than him is crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Not going to lie. It is insane, really. Does Michael Pittman get a bump if jonathan taylor is traded no and i think it actually hurts richardson more than helps richardson by a lot the cosmic realm says saying jersey is better than florida is grounds for dan being dropped from giving any other opinion i mean you think that because you haven't lived here and you've just seen the jersey shore which is not even real jersey people it's's fake Jersey people. But let me give you a little quick insight into what Jersey is. Okay?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Jersey has cultures from all around the world. You're going to have – and what does that lead to? That leads to real good food. When you have Indian or Thai or whatever, you're not getting this crap from people who are just trying to make it up down wherever you're living. These are the real people who cook it and have the homemade recipes. So there's going to be really good versions of that. Also, you don't have to drive 25 minutes to get places. Five-minute drive, everything's within your range.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It's all right there. Now you also have the Jersey Shore, which is a beautiful place with great beaches. You have the mountains if you want to go hiking. You can go up north. You've got skiing if you want to go skiing. It's all there within an hour radius. You can't say that about anywhere else. And guess what? Yeah, there aren't, Adam. That's true. Oh, down there. There's one. You can't say that about anywhere else. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah, there aren't, Adam. That's true. Oh, down there. There's one, there's like two types of people. Excuse me, excuse me. Before you go, there's plenty of culture in Florida. Plenty. People from all over the world live in South Florida.
Starting point is 00:57:37 The world, Florida, yeah. It is. A lot of culture. I think you're, look, Florida is a very unique state because the culture of Florida changes, you know, as you travel geographically North or South, but there is a lot of culture that you don't know. You really, you're like, you don't know anything about Jersey. You'd never lived there.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Apparently you've lived in Florida, but I know you haven't. So from one of us, where things are being made fair and equal for all people of all different cultures. For sure. I didn't say that. I just said that they are there, but listen, I'm the one who's actually lived in the Northeast and Florida. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:11 So I think, okay. And what do you think is better? Well, it's also not fair. Cause you've lived in like, you live in bum, no man's land,
Starting point is 00:58:18 New York. That doesn't count. Like you need to live. It is no man's land. There's farms. You've told me there's farms around you. There's a, I don't live anywhere. I don't know anything about New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I live in Sleepy Hollow. It's not a farm town, okay? We have a place called Stone Barn, which has a restaurant that's like $400 to $500 a person. It's one of those, I've never been and I never will. It's one of those super fancy restaurants and there's a farm there and all that. but it's not a sleepy hollow by no means is a farm town. There's that one farm there. Okay. It's a pretty no man's land area in New
Starting point is 00:58:53 York. Let's be honest. Are you kidding? We live on the, on the Hudson. We're in the Hudson Valley on the water. It's a beautiful place. It's not no man's land. Um, all right, let's see if I can find another one. And I'm, by the way, I'm moving next week. So, you know, I won't live here anymore.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I'm moving a little North, uh, in Westchester. What are your thoughts on stacking chase and Higgins or Hill and waddle? Yeah, I think that my thought is that we saw last year that some of these passing games can be insanely concentrated and you don't have to worry about this. Chase and Higgins in Cincinnati, insanely concentrated passing game. Hill and Waddle in
Starting point is 00:59:28 Miami, same thing. So I'm good with it. I've never said this to the guys and I won't, I don't know if I'll have time to bring it up, but I think one of the worst takes that we've had on the show this preseason is that the Dolphins solved their backup quarterback issue by signing Mike White. I think it's preposterous. And I think we forget because everybody talks about Skyler Thompson. Well, actually, Teddy Bridgewater is one of the best backup quarterbacks in football, and he was on the team last year and he carried them for a little bit. He carried the fantasy value of Hill and Waddle for a little bit when Tua was out. The second time Tua was out, Bridgewater was also out. But I do not trust Mike White.
Starting point is 01:00:08 I prefer a Chase Higgins stack because it's a round one and round three stack rather than a round one and round two stack. But both of those guys... I would disagree with that whole thing. What, that Mike White is the solution? I think Mike White is a better option for Mike McDaniel's system than Teddy Bridgewater is because Mike White is the solution? I think Mike White is a better option for Mike McDaniel's system than Teddy Bridgewater is because Mike White is the type of quarterback who can perform the Jimmy G to a style, which is hit your back foot,
Starting point is 01:00:33 throw it out into space, and let those playmakers run into that space. Bridgewater is a safe quarterback. He throws once the receiver is open. He doesn't throw with great anticipation. So personally, yeah, I see what I did. I didn't mean to get political earlier. That wasn't a political take. It was just Adam was going too hard.
Starting point is 01:00:49 That's all good. It's all good. I don't even believe in that one. I'm not a political guy. Don't worry about me. Yeah, that's all good. We're not worried. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Dan on the can is about to get canned. Florida is a little nuts. There's no question. It's not as cultured as New Jersey, though. It's crazy to even make that case. You mean it doesn't have as many people from different cultures as New Jersey? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:16 It's not as diverse? I don't know if I agree with that. Of course, that's... Oh, my God. Just look at the demographics. Are you getting great Indian food everywhere in Florida? No, everywhere in New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:01:27 A great tie, great everything. Like that's why. I get all of that in Florida. I just, I don't understand. You drive around and I'm seeing 17 chains. Every time I drive around West Palm, Fort Lauderdale, it's just chain after chain after chain. You went to a strip mall that had a Chick-fil-A
Starting point is 01:01:42 and like, you know, like a Panda Express. No, it's along the road. And you said, oh, this is Florida. That's wonderful. We got to go. Gosh, Shire. And I like Florida. It's fun.
Starting point is 01:01:56 It's warm. It's soft. Just stop. You know what? You already offended us enough. You already offended us. All right. I got a lot of Jersey pride.
Starting point is 01:02:05 It's fine. it's fine. It's fine. It's a crap on Florida. We'll talk to you on Monday. I'm going to see football today.

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