Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (09/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 23, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It's mailbag time. Here we go, baby. It's Friday afternoon for us. If you're listening on Saturday, happy weekend, everybody. Hope you're staying dry around the East Coast and hope you're ready for a fun Sunday of football as well. I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg and Pooper Cup. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Oh, I get it. Oh, you don't get it? I think you get it. I get it. Oh, I get it. Oh, you don't get it? I think you get it. Oh, I get it. Oh, I get it now. All right. We'll have a new bathroom-themed name for Dan Schneier for hashtag Dan on the can every week.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We got your emails at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com and your Apple Podcast questions first. Here's a look at your news and notes. Anthony Richardson is out. Quentin Nelson did practice, though, but Gardner Minshew is going to face the Ravens this week. Jamie Gardner Minshew is QB what? 21.
Starting point is 00:02:32 He'll be better than Daniel Jones. Yeah, probably. David Montgomery has not been ruled out yet, so come on, rule him out. Bryce Young, in addition to missing week three, could also miss week four. And Jet Safety Tony Adams is out for this matchup against the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And that's really all I have right now, but I think we'll get some notes throughout the show. So everybody stay tuned for that, because this is when practice reports start to come in. How many running backs, like David Montgomery, do you think coaches game plan for like you got a game plan for like uh you got a game plan for like a jameer gibbs right you got a game plan for a guy that's gonna do different things the game plan for a guy's gonna run straight ahead like
Starting point is 00:03:14 like what's the gamemanship here rule him out he's not playing i agree with jamie on this the gamemanship is going completely out of hand with a player like david montgomery like if you have craig reynolds in there, is the defensive scheming any differently? No. Maybe a little. I don't know. Craig Reynolds. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:31 He's going to do the same thing. Rule them out, and let's all start Jameer Gibbs and be happy. Sunday morning, check out HQ at 10 a.m. Eastern on the CBS Sports app. You can watch for some fantasy advice there, and you can join us at youtube.com slash fantasy football today at 1130 a.m. Eastern for our live stream where we're answering your questions for an hour and a half.
Starting point is 00:03:51 He's flexing already. No, I just had a weird pain in my... He's like, oh, my trice. I had a weird pain. Unbelievable. And he's going golfing again. I knew that. Well, I'm definitely going golf again. Friday, can we focus on the real thing that's going on here?
Starting point is 00:04:08 Friday is an off day for me. I have two off days. I come to the show every week. The focus should be on that, not that I go golfing on my off day. The focus is on that you have twice as many off days as Jamie and I have. As me and Jamie have. Fair enough. Well said.
Starting point is 00:04:22 All right. Time for Apple Podcast questions here. From the one and only Standard Scoring League pick in RB2, Jerome Ford, Zach Moss, or Damian Pierce? Oh, rough. Jerome Ford for me. I'm going to go Ford, too. I don't like the matchup at all for Pierce.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I can't play Pierce this week, And Moss is in a very similar spot, especially with Gardner Minshew. I don't like him either there. This is from Uncle Stink Stonk. Should I sell high on Puka and trade him for Josh Jacobs? Yes. So, wow, I can't believe I'm saying this.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And I know it's controversial, but I don't think I would do it. I saw something this week from Ted Wynn, who's unbelievable. People don't know about him. He's a film guy who covers the Raiders and he showed, and I'm trying to get the stat now. So I really, I have this somewhere, but I wish I could find it. I'm not gonna be able to find this in time, but the stat essentially was the amount of two high safety looks that Josh Jacobs faced last season versus the amount of two high safety looks he's faced this year.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And it was appalling how few he's faced this year. Teams are essentially just stacking the box. Every play was zero respect for Jimmy Garoppolo. If only anyone could have predicted this, AKA me three months ago, but there will be no change. No one is going to respect Jimmy Garoppolo this year. That box will be stacked all year long. And I don't see how Josh Jacobs scores that many points.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It has to be touchdown-based. He's not going to be efficient as a runner, or he has to get a really big role in the passing game moving forward. I don't know if I can count on those things. I don't like Jacobs' rest of way, to be completely honest, and I would be looking to sell him before things get worse. Well, he does have a role in the passing game. I don't know. He wouldn't be the first running back. He does, but I mean like a massive role it's going to have to be in my mind.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He wouldn't be the first running back on a team with a bad quarterback to face a stacked box to be successful. I mean, you know, Ramondre Stevenson last year and Derrick Henry every year. You know, I mean. But Ramondre Stevenson and Der and Derek Henry every year. You know, I mean, but Ramondre Stevenson and Derek Henry are better. So for example, Ramondre Stevenson had 84 targets in the passing game last year. Are we going to get that or 84 catches?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Are we going to get that from Josh or target? Sorry. Are we going to get that from Josh Jacobs this year? Jacobs had a lot of catches last year. Well, we, we, we have the sample size that we need to see already in two games.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Jacoby Myers, Devante Adams, they're not as big. Jacoby Myers, Devontae Adams there, not as big. Jacoby Myers not there, five catches. So that was what we saw last year when Waller was missing, when Hunter Renfro was missing. We saw it two years ago for sure. That's typically when he gets his more involvement.
Starting point is 00:07:01 That's just, I think, a byproduct of, A, who he is, and B, what the offense has been. That's with two different coaches. Also, though, week one was a win. Week two was a blowout loss. So there's that going for him as well. How many wins do you predict for the Reds? How many wins are they going to get? I don't predict that many, which is a point in his favor,
Starting point is 00:07:16 I think, if you were talking about the passing game rule, is what I was saying. That's a fair point. But this is a week that they could win. I think this is a week that he could actually have some success running. So flip side of that, this might be a good week to sell josh jacobs after he does have a big game against the steelers but i still though if you can get josh jacobs for puka nakua yeah it feels like a win because we just don't we really don't know what's gonna
Starting point is 00:07:36 happen when cooper cup comes back you know is it going to be this no is it going to be close to this i hope but the targets are definitely going to go someplace else they're going to be close to this i hope but the targets are definitely going to go someplace else they're going to distribute it to another player who's pretty good i think this is one of those offers that feels like an obvious win but actually when we look back at the end of the season won't be one that's just my take on it's fine uh from jim mungy would you trade drake london for nico collins 12 p team ppr that one's a bit more interesting. I think I'd hold London. I was impressed with what I saw from London on tape last week.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I watched all that game because I had a big trade in my league where I had to decide between Ritter and Mac Jones. And yes, it was those two, but it is a two QB league, 14 teams. So obviously QBs are worth everything. And so I actually thought Ritter looked okay on film, especially when he was targeting Drake London. London was getting open in the intermediate deep area of the field. He's a really good receiver.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I would just bank on that talent right there. I would probably lean toward London too, but this also feels like when we could look back and say, why didn't we take the third year breakout with a guy that might throw the ball a little bit more? I had an interesting trade. It got revoked. So I'll tell you because it's in the league that we're all in, in our dynasty league, the big burger dynasty league. Um, I was offered Mike Evans and a second round pick for Drake London. You would have done that.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You're saying Jamie, if it didn't get revoked, I was very torn. And I'll tell you the reason why I was hesitant. The trade offer was revoked, um, was because I have Chris Godwin. And so do I want to a sacrifice what Drake London might become for a chance to win now, knowing that two of my starters are going to be Baker Mayfield's wide receivers. So as great as Mike Evans is, and he's going to be better than Jake London this year. There's no doubt about that. Did I want to have to start both bucks receivers and lose out on what Drake London might become long-term. That was my dilemma.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah, I got offered in that same league, Mike Evans, for Quentin Johnston. Straight up? Yeah, I think so. I said no, but I said let's revisit this if I'm a contender later in the year. Yeah, I guess so. All right, let's go on to our next one here.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's from TheRealBigBlue26. Whew, that's a shot fired at Dan Schneier. Started running back a wide receiver and two flexes. So who's our running back? Is it James Cook, Kyron Williams, or Miles Sanders? Williams. I'll go Williams because I think the matchup makes sense there, but I think James Cook is going to score at some point real soon.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And I don't want to be having him on my bench. So let me just see. Let's see what happens. Yeah. Let's see what the flap is with the flex. We need a wide receiver. Puka Pittman, Nico Collins,
Starting point is 00:10:18 Tyler Lockett, Drake London. Wow. Just once one, just one. Oh, how good is this guy's team? And then you get two plexes after that. This is unreal.
Starting point is 00:10:26 This is the best step I've ever heard in the history of fantasy football. Who did you go with, Jamie? Puka. Yeah, I'm also going with Puka for sure. All right, then we need two flex. We need Pittman, Nico Collins, James Cook, Tyler Lockett, Drake London, Miles Sanders. Is it PPR?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah. Full? Yes. I would have said, of London, Miles Sanders. Is it PPR? Yeah. Full? Yes. I would have said, of course, yes. If it were half PPR and you said, is it PPR, you think I would have said yes? Come on. Wake up, Dan.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Wake up. Every reception gets a point or just the first three or what? I would go Lockett is the easy choice as the other receiver. And then it comes down to, for me, would it be Collins or James Cook? I'm going to go James Cook. I'm going to go Cook and Lockett as well. You know what? I'm going to go Lockett and Collins since it's full PPR.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I like going receivers. Full PPR always. Okay. Next question is from Nikki Poggs. This is an ego boost for Schneier here. Oh, yeah. Nikki says, The Mailbag episode on September 16th
Starting point is 00:11:28 was one of the best and most entertaining podcasts I've heard. I love the banter between Adam and Dan and Jamie regarding movies and just makes me laugh when they rip on each other. Would honestly listen to them do a movie podcast in the NFL offseason and share hot takes and make fun of one another. Dan couldn't take part in it. I've literally had this idea, by the way. And we haven't presented this to anyone who actually matters yet.
Starting point is 00:11:50 But I've talked about it with Adam, who said, I kind of like it. But it was a little lukewarm about it. Can you guys do me a favor? Can you both sit like this with your arms the way Adam was just sitting? Like this? Yeah. Well, first off, you guys are, like, ridiculous. But look how hairy adam's arms are
Starting point is 00:12:05 yeah they're pretty hairy not gonna lie and i just want you know let dan show off his gun oh thank you there we go so my idea just just to jump in real quick my idea was an off-season pod when things are slow with and it would be called worst take and it was just we just bash each other for our absolute worst takes about movies tv food, food. And, you know, I think it'd be entertaining. Episode one, The Wire is boring. No, don't you dare. Don't you dare. Well, that's the whole point of the show.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I mean, don't you want that? It's not the point of the show. Oh, no. The point of the podcast. I thought you were talking about the point of The Wire. It's like, oh, my God. No, that's the whole point of the podcast. I posted a Wire gif on Twitter today, and someone was like, oh, yeah, I love Suits.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Suits has been so great. I'm so happy. I've been seeing so many suits and I was so offended. By the way, you're still saying GIF. That's weird. Question. Would trading my Rashad White for Bryan Robinson make sense? No, I'd rather have Rashad White.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I'm a Bryan Robinson believer, so I go Bryan Robinson. We broke him down for beyond the box score. Loved his tape from week two. This one is from DT blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A bunch of letters. Dear Melvin, James, Derek, and Joel. Melvin, James, Derek, and Joel. Come on, buddy.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Come on, Schneier. This is in your wheelhouse. Okay. Melvin, James, Derek, and Joel. Is this Wisconsin Badgers? Yes. Melvin Gordon, but I don't know why I can't get all these ones. James White. James White. Melvin. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Hold on. Melvin, James. Who's the other one? We're not interested in this. PPR is super flex. My league did not draft quarterbacks early, and I got Allen and Burrow in the first round. I then took Richardson. I'm sorry. This question is irrelevant. He said, should I start Richardson over Burrow in the first round. I then took Richardson. I'm sorry, this question is irrelevant. He said, should I start Richardson over Burrow
Starting point is 00:13:48 if he clears concussion protocol? This is from Dinesh84. When you draft, you're like, man, look at these quarterbacks I have. Top five guy in Burrow and one of the best high upside plays in Richardson. Two are out. They're not out, but we don't know a lot about Burrow.
Starting point is 00:14:03 We didn't go over this in the news notes, but do you guys think that what the Bengals did today has any bearing on, on who will play quarterback on Monday night football? They claim someone from their practice squad. It's certainly insurance, but it's a bad sign. You know, I don't think it's a good sign that they're doing that, but they have to cover themselves. And I don't know what the transaction policy,
Starting point is 00:14:21 one that has to be announced is. Yeah. I just realized I do have that in a super flex league. Those are my two quarterbacks. Burrow and Richardson? Yeah, I'm playing CJ Stroud and most likely Gardner Minshew. Oh, I hope you're playing me. No. From Ganesh.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Adam is by far the funniest host out there, and the rest of the crew is great. Thank you. That's a shocker that you read this one. Go ahead. I'm looking to trade Tua in a 1QB league. What would you seek in return for Tua? I think at this point, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:53 you're looking at the borough manager first and foremost. You're probably looking at, you know, the Richardson manager if that was a one quarterback decision that that person made or Daniel Jones or who else? Justin Fields, you know, those type of, you know, managers that are struggling. Justin Fields, you know, those types of managers that are struggling. And really, you know, it's, it's hard to make just a blanket statement about this particular player, but you know, if you have running back issues, you're looking for somebody that has running back depth. If they have, you know, a plethora of wide receivers, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:18 that's the type of movie you're looking at, you know, buy low on a Saquon Barkley and Austin Eckler, any of these banged up running backs, maybe it's Tua and something else, you know, Tua and, and a Brian Robinson to get Saquon Barkley, you know, something like that. But anything you could do to upgrade your depth running back receiver to, or starting lineup is the type of move you should be making. I don't know if I'm just doing a, to a quarterback swap. I don't know if that makes sense. No. Right. Okay. Uh, from Max Thornberry grade, the trade 10 team PPR, three receivers. I give Deandre Swift and Michael Thomas and I get AJ Brown.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Love it. A plus. Yeah. I love that trade as well. AJ Brown's going to have his spike weeks, by the way, Adam, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:57 Thornberry, do you know what that's from? No. Wow. This is another time. Is that some stupid town in New Jersey that nobody even knows no no no for a guy whose brother was like the host of slime time live and a big nick guy back in the day it's you just have no knowledge of nickelodeon like this was a nickelodeon show nigel thornberry
Starting point is 00:16:15 it doesn't ring a bell no oh god you're what eight years younger than me how old are you 24 or something yeah i think i'm actually like 11 years younger than you no you're not certainly it certainly looks that way that was good how old are you uh don't worry i'm not saying my age you're not 11 years i'm 39 you're not i'm not 11 years younger than you're like i'd say five years yeah he's in the 30s yeah yeah of course even if jamie got it wrong you would have said that jamie nailed it he says a lot of right things, and I just say they're right. Like, Adam, try to be right more often, and maybe you'll get agreed more often. Good advice. This is from C.A. Cheesehead.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Do your summer, Sadie, and skip. Come on, Dan. Another one you should know. Summer, Sadie, and skip. Why would I ever know this one? Summer, Sadie, and skip. When I hear summer, this is going to be another i'm not even going to go down this route again after last week but when i hear summer i immediately i'm a throne so i'm not going to
Starting point is 00:17:14 go back down that i already made the agon targaryen last week i just bash for that mold like my whole twitter my whole weekend on twitter was just hearing people kill me for that one. So I'm not going to go with Game of Thrones. Summer Sadie. It was terrible. Summer Sadie and Skip. Why would I know that? Those are his dog's names. Whose dog's names?
Starting point is 00:17:36 The guy who's writing. Yeah, I will know this one. Go ahead. This is kind of a silly question. You know, I'm going to skip it. I'm going to skip this question. There's really no question in there. From Frankie Keys.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I love the show. I've been listening for years. I'm drunk and I want input on my preseason stand of treating tight ends like kickers and DSTs. Grab one late and figure it out. Kelsey, Andrews, Waller, et cetera, et cetera. We're all overpriced. Early round, mid round, tight end rarely work.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Take your shots at running back and wide receiver zero tight end revolution starts here feeling like a genius and need someone to bring me back to earth i'm with you this year this is what i did i was kelsey or bust and once kelsey got hurt i was just bust and i made one mistake i needed one chair darren waller in my most important league he was going so cheap because the like there was hamstring reports ended up paying for him in an, in an auction.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And now I'm like, eh, I could have used that money elsewhere to get a running back or receiver or a better running back and receiver. Um, Waller's not producing at all. So yeah, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I mean, the problem is you're not going to be able to really predict who's going to have those weeks off the wire, but I don't really think you're losing out on too much because Waller's not producing at a high level really at this point. Andrew's had a fine first game back though. Gamer Eric wants to know in PPR, Nigel Thornberry or Egon
Starting point is 00:18:54 Targaryen? Egon Targaryen would be a pretty ferocious opponent. Alright, let's see what else we got here. This is from... Don't cross the dragon streams? Yeah, there you go. From Zoeboy. I found it egregious that Jamie wasn't on the rankings for the funniest members on the show. He's absolutely hilarious, but he doesn't try to be,
Starting point is 00:19:11 and it fits in when applicable. So I'm always waiting for those moments. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, it's funny, because we did get a lot of support for different people about being the funniest, but I just don't see any Dan's in that support.
Starting point is 00:19:26 This is from... Dan's from Jamie. You don't remember that. No, I don't remember that actually, but my whole life, Adam, I haven't cared about if people are laughing with or at me, as long as they're laughing around me and having a good time. So, you know what? I took the vote. I liked it. And just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's going to change. Jamie's still voting me no matter what you think. Okay. Something you'll agree with Jamie on as well. Grade the trade, three receiver PPR, give up cup and ETN, get Jamar Chase. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I mean, it should be an easy yes. The problem is, what happens if Burrow gets shut down for weeks? It's not an easy yes at all. I'm out on this. You're out on this if Burrow's healthy? The thing is, this whole if Burrow's healthy thing,
Starting point is 00:20:18 it doesn't really work because he's just not healthy. Like playing and healthy are different. Well, you're also acquiring a player who's not really healthy. I know, but I think ETN... That's my point. Like, we need to know
Starting point is 00:20:26 if Cup's going to play this season. Why are we so sure? He's seeing specialists for a hamstring. I would not... I don't think this is going to be the case, but it wouldn't shock me
Starting point is 00:20:34 if ETN were the most valuable player in this deal because I... Like, Burrow's thing is lingering here. I suspect the second half of the season,
Starting point is 00:20:43 Jamar Chase is going to be awesome. But, you know, I don't want to give up ETN. And then the Cup... Look the season, Jamar Chase is going to be awesome. But, you know, I don't want to give up ETN. And then the Cup, Sean McVay said there's a possibility he comes back in week five.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm not just going to take him at his word. But I'm not doing this. I'm not trading for Chase right now unless... These are two pieces. Unless it's something that I really just
Starting point is 00:20:58 feel is a slam dunk. I'm not... I'm just playing conservatively. You're not wrong in thinking that, but I think the fact that it's another injured player. I'm not, I mean, I'm just playing conservatively. You're not wrong in thinking that, but I think the fact that it's another injured player and Chase is not injured
Starting point is 00:21:09 and look, I'm going to probably look silly for saying this. We don't know if Chase completely craters without Burrow there. No. There's a very realistic chance
Starting point is 00:21:19 that he might, but still. Yeah, just ETN is a big piece here. But, all right. You have to give something to get the a big piece here. But all right. You have to give something to get the second best player drafted. I get it. Right now, Chase, to me, is not the second most valuable player.
Starting point is 00:21:33 But all right. This is from Jefferyn. Puka or Kyron Williams in PPR this week? Puka. Puka. From Lucian. Grade the trade in Superflex. Give Puka Nakua and Jerome Ford.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Get a first round and second round pick in 2025. And Tajay Spears for Puka and Jerome Ford. I love it. A. You love getting Puka and Ford? No, I like getting the picks for those players. I mean, it's so far away
Starting point is 00:22:08 though. That's the problem. It's like you're... I mean, look, Cup is at the end of his rope. So whether he plays this year at that level, next year, I mean, look, he's already two straight years now he's dealing with significant injuries. Puka might be the guy for Sean McVay.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Forever. That's the part that worries me the jerome ford to me is just a total throw and i think jerome ford has almost any dynasty value long term but the concern is is book of this good or because the issue for me is like i agree with you on that but is sean mcveigh really coaching for that much longer and is matthew stafford playing for that much longer? And is Matthew Stafford playing for that much longer? And then we get to a point where it's a new system and Puka's not as good a fit and the quarterback plays bad. Yeah. I, I wonder though, like McVay had his out.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Like, did he really want to come back because of Stafford? Did you want to come back? Part of it because, well, or did he want to come back because he wanted to experience the challenge of playing with younger guys and, and,
Starting point is 00:23:04 and building a team. Maybe. And, you know, through two weeks, he's got to be pretty encouraged with what the younger players have done. You know, I think if they were at full strength, it might have been a tough challenge to beat the 49ers. So, you know, full strength meaning, like, you know, great players. Or at least prime, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah. So, yeah, I think Mcveigh is going to stick around but there's a wild card it's just giving up picks two years from now you know i i just always hate that looking that far ahead i just i'm nervous in a dynasty league to give away a guy who's had basically the best start to a career ever for a wide receiver it's right up there and yes but i will say on that note because this just reminds me adam and i'm curious if you guys remember this back in the day in dynasty like two or three years ago so that's not even back in the day two or three years ago juju smith schuster had like the greatest first year of any receiver ever most receptions ever in history and he was at one
Starting point is 00:23:58 point viewed by some people as the dynasty wide receiver one because of that stat because he had like the most receptions ever for a receiver in the first couple years and now like his dynasty like he's just a terrible dynasty ass and it's only like two or three years later well he's been in the league five six years i think it's actually you're probably going back four years at this point you know four years probably so but he was already a bad dynasty but it's not it's not a bad comp you know and and you are talking about a guy that was a fifth round pick as opposed to juju i believe was a second comp. No, it's not. And you are talking about a guy that was a fifth-round pick as opposed to Juju, I believe, was a second-round pick. So there's some potential for a complete flop.
Starting point is 00:24:30 We see this a lot more with running backs, the James Robinsons and maybe now Damian Pierce, guys that weren't day one or day two running backs that tend to just pop for one year and then they disappear. That being said, though, again, if you tell me Sean McVay is in, I think Puka's going to be really good, no matter who the quarterback is, because they'll figure it out. So I got to speed this up a little bit, but I don't think the same thing happened with Juju because Juju didn't do all that much until late in the year when there was like an injury. I think to Antonio Brown, he had a few great games.
Starting point is 00:25:01 He ended up having a good rookie season. Then it was the second. It was after the test. He had a fourteen hundred yard second season. Then it was the second. It was after the second. Yes, he had a 1,400-yard second season. I was just thinking about him today. He is a really curious case. He had a 900-yard rookie season, which we say is always a good sign. He followed that up as wide receiver six or something like that with a 1,400-yard second season.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And he was super young, which is, I think, why everybody loved him so much in Dynasty. I don't really know how to explain his career. It's a little surprising that it went downhill. All right, let's go so fast. Let's go to this one from 111000. Start two. Puka, Olave, Addison, Ridley, and DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Wow, what a team. It's only starting two of these guys. Who else is starting in this team? Puka and Ridley. How many? Just two. I'm going Puka and Ridley. I'm sitting Olave.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Whoa. I can't sit Olave. I'm sitting Ridley. I'm sitting Ridley too, but I'm not sitting Puka. Originally, I was going to sit Ridley. I should have put my whole budget on Puka. I can't believe how, how non-aggressive I was with that free agent.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I threw some 40% on that didn't hit. Like people, people got them for like 50 or 60%. Then they're spending 80 or 90% on Jerome Ford. Puka is going to be a much better asset than Jerome Ford. Uh, well, I still, I'm so happy. I got him in our other Dynasty League, Dan. Oh, you did get him. This one is from Worth Dog. I don't know if I should read this one.
Starting point is 00:26:29 What do you think? One more, Dan? Should I read one more? What do you mean? I don't know. This one's not like super relevant. Should I read it? Thumbs up, thumbs down.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah, thumbs up. All right, great. This says Adam equals funny. Adam is the reason the show is funny. JB has decent jokes but doesn't tell a lot of them. Dave's dad jokes, while terribly endearing, don't actually make me laugh. And Dan and Heath combined have exactly one joke, and it's Adam Azer. Without Adam's quick wit.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That's not entirely wrong, Dan. Without Adam's quick wit, great timing, and seemingly endless fodder for razzing, the show simply wouldn't be as fun. And then he says, while we may, and then he says while we may and then it got cut off and i actually have no idea what what happened after that maybe he was joking the whole time but i don't know all right uh i have one question before we go to break it's from one joke and it's adam that's amazing he's not wrong about that uh one question here from dave richard who sent me a little i am and he said, weird or not weird?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Peeling eggs at the workplace cafeteria sink. Weird. Boiled eggs? I can follow up. Who did that? That was you, Adam? No. Why do you think it's me?
Starting point is 00:27:38 I said Dave asked me. He's obviously at work, in an office, in a different state. I know. I thought this was from back in the day when you guys used to work together. No, I've never peeled eggs. Maybe... Maybe like once or twice in my life I've peeled eggs for my kids. That is very weird. I don't think it's weird. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Ah. And it just smells. It's just not... It's smelly. Yeah. It's a little smelly. Also, why did you call it an IM? Nothing's been an IM for years, Adam. It is a Gchat. A Gchat? I don't know. You either call it a G nothing's been in im for years adam a g chat i don't know you either call it a g chat a dm like there's no im anymore he's not dming me it's it's in the google email you know okay so it's a g chat there's no im anymore we're not in 2003 all right
Starting point is 00:28:18 all right we gotta go uh to break not not not all together we gotta go to break though. And when we come back, we got the fantasy cops joining us on Fantasy Football. Dave does not know if the eggs were boiled. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project
Starting point is 00:28:40 become part of this statistic. A quick locate request can save you from unexpected downtime, financial penalties, and keep you safe. Don't let avoidable damage This is the O.R.C.G.A. 2023 Dirt Report. Here we go. It's the fantasy cops settling your league disputes. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. informed us that our waiver system at the beginning of the year will be the same way we have always done waivers for the past two decades. Continual rolling list. He accidentally hit the FAB button, though, to create a $100 FAB for each player. Week one, nobody used FAB for waivers because we've never done this before.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Week two, so that just means they put in zero bids for everyone and it ended up being like normal waivers. Week two, however, two players, seeing that there was fab, set fab dollars up and picked up Jerome Ford and Nico Collins. The rest of the league continued to not use fab. The commissioner admitted that he had made a mistake and was too busy at his job to fix it. He now eliminated the fab option moving forward. However, he stirred up a hornet's nest and league players are unhappy.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Who should get Jerome Ford and Nico Collins? And how can the commissioner make this right? I feel like this one's so easy. You just go by the rolling list for week two, whatever it would have been, and those people should get Nico Collins or Ford if,
Starting point is 00:30:19 and this isn't a little bit of an honor system thing, but if they say they were going to bid on those players or they were going to process a waiver request for those players, is that not right? What do you guys think about that? I would say what's happened has happened. Commissioner messed up. You get those two players, and we make the adjustment moving forward.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I'm with Dan. First of all, Dan, you have to say that Jamie's wrong. You have to say that out loud. Yeah, Jamie's wrong. There you go. I'm with Dan. I think that everyone was under the assumption that waivers were a particular way. I'm sure everyone put in a claim for Jerome Ford.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I don't know about for Nico, but if not everyone, almost everyone put in for Ford. I think it should go on the waiver wire priority list from week two. I agree with Dan. All right. Two to one. This one, okay, this one,
Starting point is 00:31:09 the only reason we're reading this one is to humiliate the commissioner. This guy is so guilty that we're just going to play bad cop, bad cop here.
Starting point is 00:31:19 All right, so the email is from David. This trade was completed after week one. One team gives up Brees Hall, Devontae Smith, and Jonathan Mingo, gets back Jameer Gibbs, Gabe Davis, and Tank Bigsby. When I saw it, I said to myself, I'd rather be the team who receives Smith and Hall,
Starting point is 00:31:38 but I had no issues with it being that uneven. Week two happens, and Devontae Smith once again went off. The league manager is taking a vote to see if the trade should be vetoed a week later. No.
Starting point is 00:31:52 He says the results are split. So he's going to veto the trade even after the games have been played. Two teams threatened to quit
Starting point is 00:32:01 if the trade stands. I've never seen a trade vetoed after games have been played. What are your thoughts? This is an absolute nightmare. Wait, wait, wait. The commissioner's involved in this? The commissioner's going to overturn the trade. Oh, he's not one of the teams trading.
Starting point is 00:32:15 No, he's not. Okay, I was going to say, because the way you made it sound like it. Two teams are crybaby threatening to quit the league. I don't think he's one of the teams trading. We don't have that information. Yeah, the two people threatening to leave the league. If the trade stands by CF. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yeah. Never come back and never play fantasy football with me ever again. Like, what are you doing? That's embarrassing. Those people should be more embarrassed than the commissioner who should also be embarrassed. We're considering to veto a trade a week after the trade was made through
Starting point is 00:32:42 that. This is insane. What's the, where does the. What is the next step? You evaluate it in five weeks and say, oh, Team A totally won this trade. Actually, it was fair. We're going to do the trade over. We'll give the players back retroactive stats. We'll change the lineups for each week.
Starting point is 00:32:58 This is crazy. This wasn't a vetoable trade to begin with, and it's not now, and don't do it. All right. All right. All right. This is from Robbie in a city in the north of England. What do you got, Dan? Northern England.
Starting point is 00:33:15 In the north of England. Ipswich. Sure. Just kidding. I think Ipswich is actually in the countryside and potentially in the south. But my nanny, Colleen, Jada Colleen was from there. She was great. She is great.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Okay. My au pair, I don't know where my au pair was from, Jamie, but old joke there. 16-team Dynasty PPR League. The commissioner has a juggernaut team, but just lost Nick Chubb, so he just traded a 2024 first rounder,
Starting point is 00:33:42 probably pick 15 or 16 in the draft, to a middling team for Brian Robinson. However, it turns out that he has also made a gentleman's agreement in which he, the commissioner, will send Saquon Barkley to the team losing Brian Robinson at the end of the season in exchange for a second round pick. So essentially, the commissioner gets Robinson and gets to keep Barkley until the end of the season
Starting point is 00:34:08 before trading him away and only getting a second rounder in return. The commissioner, this is 16 team league, by the way, the commissioner posted a screenshot of the conversation that he had with his trade partner in which this agreement was made. So he can't back out of it without losing all credibility. Personally, I don't have a problem with it as both
Starting point is 00:34:26 trading partners seem happy, but it's caused a bit of an uproar amongst some players in our league who don't think this sort of arrangement should be allowed. Would love to know what the fantasy cops think about this and about gentlemen's agreements in general. I mean, this is a player to be named later? I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's very tradeback-esque and collusion-esque. Like, if you're thinking, well, what's collusion? This is essentially what collusion is, right? Like, it's not the worst case of collusion we've ever seen, but it's basically still collusion, right? Yeah. Is it? I mean, what if they just,
Starting point is 00:35:03 if they did this trade separately at the end of the season, nobody would bat an eye. Okay. But what happens if Barkley suffers a season ending injury? Is that still happening for a second round pick? Like it's, it's, it's done written in stone. What if, what if it were, what if, what if that were the scenario? They agree to this trade and it's set in stone, no matter what Barkley for a second round pick. Would you be okay with it? I mean, it's still deciding on something that you don't have an outcome for. It feels as if like I'm doing this no matter what happens. That to me feels
Starting point is 00:35:34 like you're colluding. I mean, basically what you're doing is you're agreeing to a trade in the future and I've never seen that done and I think I'd have to say no. Yeah. Right. I think that should just be a rule. No trades in the future. Those trades have to be made at the time. Thank you for your submissions to the Fantasy Cops. We appreciate it. I have a Fantasy Cops question. Oh, and I think Zach Brooke does too, as I forgot.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Bonus Cops. Let Zach go first. Oh, you ready, Zach Brooke? A little cameo here. You guys hear me? My connection's not great. So, I'm in a league. We've been in a league for about five years. And obviously Okay. Okay. isn't great, they'll screenshot the opening offer to the chat, which just destroys the trade to begin with and destroys any chance of any other trade going on. Do you think, I feel like if the trade is proposed, set in the app, everybody sees it, fair. When you're opening negotiations, I think that's just bad business.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'm not going to arrest anyone for it. I mean, it's not illegal. It's just a real jerk thing to do. No question. You know, opening negotiations, there's supposed to be a little bit of a chatter here, right? You don't just blast someone to the rest of the league. That's bad form.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That's bad form, Zach. If it's egregious, maybe. But if it's decently fair, I don't see the point. Yeah, I don't see the point either. It's not productive at all. You're not going to get a lot of trades. You're right, though. It's going's decently fair, I don't see the point. Yeah, I don't see the point either. It's not productive at all. You're not going to get a lot of trades. You're right, though. It's going to turn this into a league of no trading because once that gets posted, someone has a comment and the other team feels vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It's no good. A lot of complaints from the neighbors, but unfortunately, nothing we can do about it. Not illegal. Jamie, what do you got? So this is a question for Dan. So, Dan, have you ever been in a league where a commissioner knows of a move that happened? Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Uh, that probably was done by mistake and let's go for at least a week. No, without maybe saying something to the person in the league that might've made the mistake. Oh no, that's really bad commissioner work. I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:44 if anyone, honestly, if anyone did that, I would throw them in jail, throw the book at them, put them behind bars. Wow. The whole life. Let me give you the scenario. Let me give you a scenario. So in a league, there was a pretty prominent player in a dynasty league dropped and the commissioner obviously was aware of this and let it go for several days without reaching
Starting point is 00:38:03 out to the person, say, Hey, you may have done this by mistake. You know, I don't know if you want to drop this guy. Now, again, you could say, is that the right thing to do? Let the person,
Starting point is 00:38:10 you know, suffer on their own. Um, and then let the player go on to waivers bid on said player. Oh, trying to get that. I'm missed, but let that player who should not have been dropped,
Starting point is 00:38:24 get dropped and not say anything to the person that dropped. Terrible move. No, I don't. First of all. Okay. So what happened was in our 12 team dynasty league where there's nobody good on the waiver wire, we have 22 man rosters or something like that. Someone dropped Deontay Johnston, Deontay Johnson. And the ironic part is a few days after he dropped on, this isn't ironic, but the few days
Starting point is 00:38:46 after he dropped them, he was, went on IR. So he could have just put them in an IR spot, but he dropped Deontay Johnson and I saw it. I don't think I'm under any obligation to reach out to the guy and say, Hey, why did you drop Deontay Johnson? Yes, I bid on him. I texted Jamie. Everybody bid on him. He went for $97 out of 100. I bid 91 because you just don't get an opportunity like that in a dynasty league, right? So anyway, I asked Jamie.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I said, and I didn't want to give it away necessarily. I said, I have a question about one of our leagues. Like, did you notice someone strange got dropped? And, you know, I was kind of speaking vaguely about it because, again, I didn't want to just clue everybody in that Deontay Johnson got dropped. And Jamie, yeah, maybe I could have reached out to the guy, but I don't think I did anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:34 By the way, Dan, you're in that league. I know. Did you notice that he got dropped? No, I did not notice it. I'm not going to sit here and lie and say I did. I was going to say the same thing. He didn't notice it either. I have some issues with my activity in that.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Guys, we can talk. Maybe I need a therapist or something for this, but I don't understand how you guys, this is the most leagues I've ever been in in a season. I don't understand how you guys can remain as active as you are when you have 27. I have 27 leagues this year. Oh my God, I have 13.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I have 11 non-best. No, you have more than that. You have 13 alone through work, I feel like they're all, all of my leagues are basically through work. I have a lot of home leagues and different kinds of leagues. Like, you know, most people go to therapists, they sit on the couch, dance at some toilet. But listen, I, it turned out he did not, it was not an accident. He meant to drop Deontay Johnson. Why? Why? He drafted him in like the third or fourth round. You can't do that in Dynasty. It was almost like a spite drop. You're lucky I didn't see
Starting point is 00:40:29 this, by the way, because I would have bid $100 on this. Straight up, just full budget on this. Well, I lost him anyway. Well, we're not lucky. You're just dumb. I was like, he went on IR because I was chatting with him on Monday. We have this group chat text with the Dynasty League that Dan's in it doesn't pay attention to apparently. And I said, you know, why? Why'd you drop him? And we were all talking about it. And he said,
Starting point is 00:40:51 someone said, you could have put him in an IR spot. And the guy's like, it was already filled. I'm like, we have five. And he's like, Oh, I thought we had one. So you got to learn the rules. All right, let's, let's read some emails. By the way, let me help you, Dan. When you search for players, go to roster trends and search for most viewed. Start there. Most rostered too. Nice little tip.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Nice tip from Jamie there. Most rostered helps too because there's sometimes... No, I do actually know about that. I do that for... Look, Dynasty is a league. Typically, Dynasty, I don't follow the free agency that much because like Adam said, there's typically no good free agents.
Starting point is 00:41:28 But I need to be aware of people dropping Deontay Johnson for sure. Yeah. All right. We need to take another break here and then we'll fly through the emails and the YouTube questions. We'll be right back on fantasy football today because Dan has to go golfing. Welcome back, everybody. Don't not trying to stand in the way of a man and his day off, which I appreciate him being here.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I really do. I have news real quick. Oh, okay, good. What do we got? So Jalen Waddell will practice on Friday, but it's still in the protocol. Ooh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:56 He can practice before getting through the protocol? Yes, that's what typically happens is they can practice, but they'll be listed as limited. Yeah. And if he clears the protocol, then he'll be okay. Sometimes they practice in full in the protocol. In fact, it happened with Jacoby Myers, I believe, this week. I believe they still are listed as limited, though.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Okay. All right. From Matt. I suspect I'm one of very few New Zealand listeners to the podcast, but he likes our show. I appreciate it. Two things. zealand listeners to the podcast uh but he likes our show appreciate it two things i watched billy madison again last night and adam's eric impersonation is perfect and oil of ole was a
Starting point is 00:42:31 big product here in new zealand years ago so i always thought oil level lave was an excellent team name boy i'm really i'm really egotistical today i can't believe i keep reading these but that's the entire email can't believe you keep reading these i don't usually read these types of things. You know how egotistical it is, by the way? Do you know how egotistical it is to say, I can't believe I'm reading these? That in alone is an egotistical comment.
Starting point is 00:42:54 What do you mean you can't believe it? You're the one doing it. You can believe it. I guess I didn't realize how many of them made the show. I guess that reminds me of... So, Dan, Nando, you would love Nando because he always killed Adam. My favorite. Oh, I don't want to play the guitar.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Wait, it's just having to be sitting right next to me. Yeah. All right. This is from. Oh, wait, I have to sing. Oh, no. Hashtag. It's never too early for a seltzer.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yes. For Heath. That's a little throwback to the Heath episode. I thought you guys were crazy. It was yesterday. I know. But yesterday's Heath. That's a little throwback to the Heath episode. I thought you guys were crazy. Throwback? It was yesterday. I know. But yesterday's episode.
Starting point is 00:43:27 But why can't you enjoy a seltzer at 9 a.m. or whatever it is? Seltzers are great. I don't get that. I don't drink seltzer. How is there like a time? There should be no time limit on seltzer.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Seltzers should be enjoyed at any point. It's literally like drinking water, but it's better. It's literally like drinking water except it's nothing like water because it's entirely carbonated and tastes bitter. It is not water. It's nothing like water because it's entirely carbonated and tastes bitter.
Starting point is 00:43:46 It is not water. If you like seltzer, that's fine. I'm not going to yuck your yum, but it's not water. It's nothing like water. It's nothing like water. It's literally water carbonated. Yeah, but that's the whole thing about water is that water is not carbonated. It's seltzer.
Starting point is 00:44:03 They're completely different beverages. You know what? We may need to go to Twitter or a poll or just let us know in the comments. But that's the whole thing about water is that water is not carbonated. It's seltzer. They're completely different beverages. I want some. You know what? We may need to go to Twitter or a poll or just let us know in the comments. Does it make any sense for Adam to say seltzer is, quote unquote, nothing like water? You tell me if that makes any sense. We got two questions here.
Starting point is 00:44:17 We have a question. It's PPR. Is that half? I mean, select one in full PPR. Flowers or Addison? Addison Addison. Yeah. Um, select one in full PPR.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Oh, wow. All right. Damien Pierce or Brees Hall. Ooh, Pierce. Gross Pierce. I guess.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Would you drop Bigsby or Elijah Moore to pick up Gus Edwards? Um, Bigsby or Elijah Moore to pick up Gus Edwards? I would drop Elijah Moore because I don't trust Deshaun Watson. I think that's fair. And if there's an injury to Travis Etienne, you're going to be really mad at yourself. I'm getting crushed right now for my water seltzer take. It made no sense whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:44:59 But it's not like water. I love water. All I drink is water. And I look forward to having a cup of water. I don't like seltzer, but that's fine. Like I said, you like seltzer, that's great. But they're nothing alike. Seltzer's bubbly and has a taste.
Starting point is 00:45:13 They're both water. One's just carbonated. You look forward to having water? I love a glass of water. That was a funny comment, by the way. But nothing alike is like Adam at sports and me at sports. That's what nothing alike is like, okay? Water and seltzer are not nothing alike.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Oh, Jamie, Ryan saw you on 441 the other day. How about that? Hi, Ryan. Say hi next time. What's 441, by the way? It's a road. Nothing like water. Seltzer is water.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Seltzer is not water. Cucumbers aren't pickles. That's true. I mean, they're totally different. Cucumbers and pickles taste very different. That doesn't make them completely different. They're completely different. I mean, it's like you don't order, okay, you don't order something with cucumber and they say, oh, we don't have any cucumber.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And you say, okay, you know what? Just put pickles in there. They're the same thing. You would never do that. They're completely different foods. Thank you. Great call. I am winning this one.
Starting point is 00:46:11 All right. This is for a grade the trade. Give up McCaffrey for Mixon and lamb. Give up McCaffrey for Mixon and lamb? It's a good one. It's close, huh? It's close, but I would- It's called down on depth you have injuries i can i can make some sense of it this is from jason raheem mostart or kyron williams in ppr i think that's for this
Starting point is 00:46:35 week kyron williams rest of season williams iron this is from saul Mark Tom and Travis would you trade CD lamb for Jonathan Taylor no oh no from Joshua 14 team PPR two flexes six point per passing touchdown would you trade a Monra St. Brown for Jalen Hertz and Puka Nakua?
Starting point is 00:47:05 I have Gino Smith and Kyler Murray. Yes. Yeah. I think I do it too. Oh, okay. Especially with, with the Monro dealing with this toe injury,
Starting point is 00:47:15 who knows what happens there? Right. From David Allegria PPR, which two should I start? Gabe Davis, George Pickens, or DJ Moore? Ooh, is it strange that I like Pickens the best?
Starting point is 00:47:30 I might go Pickens and Davis. I'm going Davis and Moore. This is Kevin from a Massachusetts town known for its bar-style pizza. Oh. Wait, no, not Massachusetts. I can do Connecticut for for that but obviously not massachusetts connecticut is new haven have you had new haven pizza either of you i think it's the best i've heard so many times i've heard i think it's the best on the planet i also knew
Starting point is 00:47:53 that you had no chance of getting a massachusetts like i knew that you were gonna be confident about it and ultimately not no um i just like that played out exactly the way I thought it would. Anyway, this is from this. He says, Dear Vizanth, Jabril, Martellus and Bill. No idea. I think, Dan, you should be you legitimately should be able to get this. Yeah. Jabril Wilson is who come. That's the only Jabril in the history of the world. Jabril Peppers.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Jabril Peppers. That's another Jabril. It's a different spelling of Jabril. And also Martellus Bennett. And who are the other ones? Vizanth and Bill. That's another Jabril. It's a different spelling of Jabril. And also Martellus Bennett. And who are the other ones? Vizanth and Bill. Vizante Shanko. Oh, Vizante.
Starting point is 00:48:31 So pathetic. I didn't know who it was. I just remember he said. He's supposedly a Giants fan, Adam. Dan, you'll never understand this reference, but there was an old commercial, and the phrase was, a little dab will do ya? What was the product, Adam?
Starting point is 00:48:50 It was a shaving cream, right? I didn't know the commercial, but I think it was a little dab will do ya. Broke cream, maybe? Broke cream, a little dab will do ya? Broke cream, that's right, broke cream. So Adam goes, what was it? Was it an introduction? Someone wrote in, like, from a little dab will do ya.
Starting point is 00:49:02 A little dab will do ya. And I wrote, this is from a little dab will do it and i wrote this from a little dabble do it i never heard of that uh anyway i think these are giants who became patriots if anybody remembers that one that's old vasantay shank i remember him the sand uh i like hearing about how my teammates to the sand i like hearing about how narratives can play into how you possibly feel about a player in a given week revenge game or player or coach or a guy playing an away game in his hometown or squeaky wheel, end of season incentive, something like that. Let's see. Please keep bringing these storylines up when I'm unsure which player to
Starting point is 00:49:36 start. I tend to use narratives like these as a tiebreaker because it's fun to root for. Yeah. I mean, you know, while everybody else likes using advanced stats, I want two fantasy analysts of the year awards just going by these narratives. Not just going by those narratives. Well, I mean, you know, it's mostly me that says
Starting point is 00:49:53 it brings these things up. Yeah, you're really good at that. My favorite one this week is the Broncos. Haven't been out of Denver in a month and got to go play in this heat in South Florida.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I think it's going to be a tough one for them. Yeah, my only problem with that is like... I kind of love Miami. What's the line on that game? heat in South Florida, I think it's going to be a tough one for them. Yeah. My only problem with that is like... I kind of love Miami. What's the line on that game? Six and a half, I think. Yeah, I think it's under seven. My only problem with that, Jamie,
Starting point is 00:50:13 is that I feel like the Broncos, if that game were played in a neutral site, I wouldn't really have a lot of confidence in them right now offensively. Well, listen, I don't push these narratives without some level of something yeah no but I love I love the guy playing in his hometown um there's a lot of good stuff all right uh so this is from KC am I starting Kirk Cousins over Josh Allen uh no nah would you drop big cousins week would
Starting point is 00:50:42 you drop Brandon Cooks for Ferguson? Would I drop Brandon Cooks? You need tight end help, yeah. I like Ferguson. Yeah, I don't. I mean, Brandon Cooks, to me, feels like it's going to be a long time before we get something productive on him. This is from Roadrunner.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Dear John, Allison, Claire, Brian, and Andrew. Not a clue. Should I trade Deshaun Watson and Alvin Kamara for Josh Allen and Damian Pierce? Yes. Yes, you're getting the best player in the deal. I would do that for Josh Allen straight up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Oh, this is The Breakfast Club, I think. John, Allison, Claire, Brian, and Andrew. I got to say this about that movie because I did watch one of the rare movies that I had. It's not good. It's not that good of a movie. Why is that known as a good movie? Dan, here's the thing. This is my guess because I didn't see it until
Starting point is 00:51:31 the last 10 years or so. If you saw it when you were a kid or if you grew up in that era like Jamie did, I am sure it was great. But to go back and watch it now, it's not really that good. What is the big deal with this movie? That's how I feel about Empire Records. Are you an Empire Records guy?
Starting point is 00:51:47 I like Empire Records too. It's good. Yeah, Empire Records is like the breakfast club of the 90s. But if I show it to someone now, I don't think they'd like it that much. You can't compare.
Starting point is 00:51:57 What? It's our breakfast club. Like for people my age, Empire Records is a cultural movie. Would Garden State be at the Empire Records slash, because I like Garden State a lot, the two mountains. Because Garden State's so depressing. But yes, I think Garden, it is like a cultural,
Starting point is 00:52:16 very much of the times, kind of a time capsule sort of movie. Anyway, yeah. I just would like to make it clear. I'm not associated with these two when it comes to that breakfast club please do not lump me in with these two i just think there's a lot of movies that i think in general you could just make it clear that in general don't be you don't want to be lumped in with these two i hope you're looking at the comments right now it's you don't want to be lumped in with us no i'm just saying if you watch breakfast club for the first time right now you'd be surprised i don't i really don't think many people would like it that much
Starting point is 00:52:43 uh i i just personally don't see what was so good about it. I just was pretty bored, to be honest. All right, this is from Kevin. Daga-daga? Come on. This is from Kevin. Give up Christian Watson and a 2024 fifth-round pick. Get Mike Williams, Chuba Hubbard, and a 2024 fourth-round pick. And these are not rookie picks.
Starting point is 00:53:02 These are keeper picks. Oh. So give up Watson and a fifth-round pick. And these are not rookie picks. These are keeper picks. Oh. So give up Watson and a fifth-round pick for Mike Williams, Chuba Hubbard, and a fourth-round pick. And this is the Miles Sanders manager trying to get Hubbard. I still don't like him. I mean, Mike Williams might be better than Christian Watson to begin with. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I don't want to give up on Watson this fast in a keeper league. I'm going to bow out of this one. I would assume the Williams manager is probably in a keeper league. I'm going to bow out of this one. I would assume that Williams' manager is probably in more win now. I assume, based on when people give these questions, that it's like these fourth and fifth round keeper picks are horrible. Like, it's one of those leagues
Starting point is 00:53:33 where everyone's captain. You don't even have to, like, the fourth round of a draft is like the 12th round or 13th round. Let's see. We got Tua and DJ Moore for Mahomes and Tajay Spears. Would you give up Tua and Moore for Mahomes and Spears?
Starting point is 00:53:47 I would. Tua and Moore for Mahomes and Spears. Yeah. I mean, Spears right now, I got to keep checking the practice reports. What happens if Derrick Henry's out? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I traded Garrett Wilson, Mostert, and Metcalf for Jamar Chase and Mike Williams. This is from James. I traded Wilson, Mostert, and Metcalf for Jamar Chase and Mike Williams. This is from James. I traded Wilson, Mostert, and Metcalf for Jamar Chase and Mike Williams. What do you think? He doesn't need Mostert, per se. I'm sorry. Say again?
Starting point is 00:54:16 Mostert who? He gives up Mostert, Garrett Wilson, and Metcalf. He gets Jamar Chase and Mike Williams. This one I'm doing. I'm doing it, but obviously we have to hope that Burrow is fine. This is from Trevor. Dear Fred, John, Tim, and Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And these are names of the actors in the show Moonbase 8, which apparently Travis Kelsey had a role in. I've never even heard of that. Never heard of that either. And he said, it's a show, so maybe Jamie will watch it, but I think he meant it's a show, so maybe Dan will watch it, because Dan watches every show and no movies. No, I only watch good shows.
Starting point is 00:54:52 12-team non-PPR league. Oh, go ahead and say that to Travis Kelsey, buddy. Three receivers, no flex. I've been offered... I have Justin Fields, and I have Jordan Love on the bench. I've been offered Lamar Jackson and DeAndre Hopkins for Jamar Chase. Should I do that?
Starting point is 00:55:07 No. No. All right, this is from Chris. Who would you start at wide receiver? You have to pick three. It's standard scoring. Jahan Dotson, Tutu Atwell, Chris Godwin, Puka Nakua. Godwin and Nakua are easy for me,
Starting point is 00:55:24 and then I would probably still go Dotson over Atwell because I want to play both Rams just in case there is a disaster that happens. Checks out with me. I do not agree with this take at all. Dan Schneier, the type of guy to yell at a star. Yeah, that's not a good take. Like I would literally never do that.
Starting point is 00:55:40 He would never do that. It's the total opposite of who I am. You know why? Because he would say something like, oh, there such so much culture in new jersey we got all these great coffee places that you can go to that's a good point i would i would i would always go to a local coffee place over starbucks that's another good point yeah a new sponsor uh from raymond half ppr i need two uh breese hall nashi harris jaylen warren josh kelly jerry judah jerry two. Brees Hall, Najee Harris, Jalen Warren, Josh Kelly, Jerry Judy, and Craig Reynolds. I'll skip Craig Reynolds.
Starting point is 00:56:08 So need two of these guys. Brees Hall, Najee Harris, Jalen Warren, Josh Kelly, Jerry Judy. You have to start two of Brees Hall, Josh Kelly, Jerry Judy, and who? Brees Hall, Najee Harris, Jalen Warren, Josh Kelly, Jerry Judy. I'm going Kelly and Judy. I'm going Kelly and Judy.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I would go Kelly and Judy also. And finally from The Banker, Dear Aaron, Williams, Green, and Azaria. Hank. Hanks, yeah. Hanks. Sit one. Sit.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Are you here, Scott? Before we get further in this, Adam, I feel like this has been my highest percentage of guest writes in the history of the mailbag or any. I mean, the fact that you got Vasant is pretty impressive. Vasant. Vasant. I didn't recognize the name.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Sit one. Amonra St. Brown, Calvin Ridley, Keenan Allen, or Puka Nakua. Wow. I hate to admit it, but that's the one for me. Ridley, Keenan Allen, or Puka Nakua? Wow. I hate to admit it, but that's the one for me. Ridley, yeah. Ridley's easy to sit in this group. I guess, yeah. Easy. In this group. In this group, it's hard not to. PPR, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:15 What a team. Obviously, he could have 100 yards and two touchdowns. Wouldn't shock me. All right, YouTube, what do you got for us other than Seltzer? Can we agree that I'm right about that? Seltzer and water? How could you be right? You said Seltzer can we agree that i'm right about that seltzer and water how could you be right you said seltzer is nothing like water it isn't it's crazy i mean you could call any you could call soda you could say it's different and i would have been okay with it but the nothing like is insane what is like what okay what's the difference between the difference
Starting point is 00:57:40 between seltzer and water and the difference between like Coca-Cola and water. The only difference is syrup. It's the same thing. They're both water based, but they taste nothing like water. You think Coca-Cola is just putting syrup in the water? No, and carbonation and sugar and all that. There's a lot more going in there. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:05 It's over for you, that. Yes. Yeah. There's a lot more going in there. All right. It's over for you, buddy. Um, we'll see. Okay. Time will tell. Do you want some updates first? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And then we'll get this dynasty trade. Okay. Uh, Bryce Young's officially starting. I'm bright. Bryce Young's officially out. No practice for David Montgomery today. Uh,
Starting point is 00:58:23 Campbell says Amara St. Brown is, feels good. We'll play. Logan Thomas has been ruled out. And Kareem Hunt will play, according to Kevin Stefanski. Whoa. That one I didn't expect from right away. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Dynasty League. Team A gets Jamar Chase and David Njoku. Team B gets Devante Smith and Chris Olave. Who wins? Chase. Wow. No, I'm going to go with Smith and Olave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:53 You know what? I take it back. I'm looking at this again, and I'm like, damn, that's a good... I usually hate the two side of a two for one, but damn, that's a good two. So I go with a two. It's funny that you agreed to this. Sit one in PPR in super flex.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Chris Olave, Calvin Ridley, Puka Nakua, Justin Fields. Wow. Olave. Ridley. I'm going to say Ridley.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Why Ridley? Why Olave over Ridley? Because Olave's got Jair Alexander, potentially. Ridley's got no Stingley, no Jimmy Ward, I think. I mean, they are going to be able to run the ball, you think, probably a lot. But that's why I'm going Ridley over Olave.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I think it's more concentrated with Olave over Ridley. Like Derek Carr, getting back to last year with Devontae Adams, is just slinging it to the number one. This is one of those where you're just rich. And you're going to probably leave a point or two on the bench. If both guys do well, I don't think you're making a horrible decision either way. So for me, I would say really,
Starting point is 00:59:50 but I like all these guys. This is what happens. Look, when you are a smart fantasy player and you get Puka when you don't need Puka. So you, now you have to make some tough calls. Right?
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah. So, uh, start Dotson or Higgins. If Burrow is out. Higgins if burrow is out higgins though yeah because you got to make that call on sunday true yeah because it's a monday night game okay i'm good with that higgins would you trade barkley for camara in ppr ryan kelly
Starting point is 01:00:20 who's that ryan kelly center yep um, I would not trade Barkley for Kamara. The only way I would do that is if Barkley, we find out next week he's not playing Monday, and then that means this high ankle sprain is going to linger, and you may be 0-3, and you've got to save yourself. So I would ask for something else with Kamara, but I would be considering it. Senor Football.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Adam is 99% on his takes. Agreed. Pick one wide receiver and one a little. It undersold me a little bit there. One wide receiver in a flex. St. Brown, Calvin Ridley,
Starting point is 01:00:49 Christian Kirk, Rashad White, DeAndre Swift. The first two receivers. Yeah, I'm not going to bench Ridley and St. Brown for Kirk, White or Swift.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Would you trade Jerome Ford and Mike Evans for Josh Jacobs in standard scoring? Yeah. Standard, right? Yes. You have to almost die. I don't feel good about Jacob's rest of season. Now I just have to reiterate that Adam not understanding what water is might be the craziest thing this year, right?
Starting point is 01:01:18 Rosie, right? This is insane. Who says that water is nothing like seltzer? It's one of the most wild takes I've ever heard come out to be the worst take Adam said, and that's saying a lot. I need to text you after this so you can put this on Twitter. It's so true. They're nothing alike. I might need to call Heath right now during the show, honestly.
Starting point is 01:01:33 The water seltzer take at Breakfast Club is not good. I mean, how far off the rails have you gone? I want to tell you a story. It hurts my heart to say it. But in high school, my friend had never seen Spaceballs. So I was like, oh, you have to watch Spaceballs. So we watched Spaceballs. And I was like, this isn't really that good.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Really? Which kills me because I love Spaceballs. I love Spaceballs. Is it not good anymore? But that's the thing about movies is sometimes they just don't age well. And Breakfast Club is one of those movies that is so 80s. It is so over-the-top, Breakfast Club. It doesn't work now.
Starting point is 01:02:08 That's what movies were like in the 80s. They were ridiculous. Can I ask you, Jamie, someone who liked Breakfast Club, I'm just curious, since I watched it two, three, four years ago, whatever, is it supposed to be a comedy or what is it going for? Because I didn't laugh at all. Comedy coming-of-age movie. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Coming-of-age thing I can get behind. I don't think I laughed at all in that movie, though. Hall or Gus? Gus. Gus. Let's see. I don't know what this says, but Dan is the type of guy who likes to be damn right. Do you like baseballs that age well?
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah, unfortunately. Oh, my God. I haven't seen it in a while, but I loved it. It's got to be someone who's never seen it before that's the real test if you go into it with bias that it's that it's funny then you're gonna like it it's gonna remind you of your childhood subconsciously but if you've never seen it before i'm telling you like it's just it's people aren't gonna like it as much as you think they are and i love that movie it's one of my favorites i love when we i love when we get
Starting point is 01:03:02 psychologist adam on the show where he really gets deep there. Yeah. Yeah. I've studied this many times. Rashad, Rashad Johnson, Jalen Warren, Dotson,
Starting point is 01:03:14 or Gabe Davis. We need two of them. Jamie, is there, before we do this, Jamie, is there any world where you would say
Starting point is 01:03:20 that the cookie part of an Oreo is better than the cream part? No. Right? Isn't that one of the stupidest takes ever? Add someone of Adam's takes. And he's like, and then he planted someone
Starting point is 01:03:29 when we went to the Giants game last year. Four people. No, it was one person, really. It was a group of four, and they all agreed that that was one of the coolest moments. Stan and I were just chatting at a tailgate, and these random people come up to us and are like, we love your show, and by the way,
Starting point is 01:03:42 the cookie is the better part of the Oreo. Yeah. It was a cool moment, but it was stunning too. Like, I don't even understand how that could be a take. Like it's the most driest paper, like cracker cookie out there on the market versus the thing is like, you'd get sick if you, all you did was eat the cream. It's just the cookie is the more vital part. You know, the cream is just, all right. Anyway, um, pick two of this group here. Rashawn Johnson, Jalen Warren,
Starting point is 01:04:07 Dotson, or Gabe Davis? Warren and Davis. Davis. Okay. I'm going to go with a gamble here. Davis and Rashawn. This might be the changing of the guard. That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Najee Harris does not... No, I'm thinking of the Steelers. Oh, I was thinking of Chicago. But the Steelers, like, if Najee cannot run against the Raiders, we may see mid-game Jalen Warren. Okay. And then we get two victory laps
Starting point is 01:04:34 next week. The Dave Jalen Warren victory lap and the Heath Andy Dalton victory lap. If Andy Dalton outscores Derek Carr this week, you're going to hear about it. 2-2. DJ Moore, Dotson, or Myers? Pick one. DJ Moore
Starting point is 01:04:48 for me. What did I say? Dotson? No, more. I'm sorry. More. Start one, sit one, cut one. Oreos, Nutter Butters, Malamars. Start Oreos, sit Nutter Butters, cut Malamars. I'm going to go cut Nutter Butters,
Starting point is 01:05:06 sit Malamores. I mean, honestly, Malamores are pushing. Oreos are so good. I can't put them in over Oreos, but I like Malamores. These are all great.
Starting point is 01:05:14 This is like we picked up Puka Nakua and you've got to sit Calvin Ridley. Yeah, right. But I'm with Dan here. Thanks everybody for watching and listening. And, look at that. That's not,
Starting point is 01:05:24 that's not the typical thing here. What is this, Gamer Eric? Gamer Eric, Jamie is right. You don't even know what you're talking about, Gamer Eric. Eric. Gamer Eric. All right. Later, folks.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Listen, you mess with the bull, you get the horns, buddy. Yeah, that's right. What a hilarious line, Breakfast Club. You've delivered so many memorable ones. That's honestly the funniest line in the entire movie, and it's not funny at all. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you Sunday morning with an injury update on Fantasy Football.

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