Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (10/10 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 10, 2020

Some injury updates to start the show and then we get right into your questions via Apple Podcast (4:00). We’re answering your Start or Sit questions and grading your trades. Then the Fantasy Cops l...ay down the law (24:48) and we read your emails (30:30) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com to help you get ready for Week 5.  Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. All right, what's up, everybody? Happy Saturday. Hope you're enjoying your weekend. And welcome to our mailbag edition of Fantasy Football Today. Your email is at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com
Starting point is 00:01:33 and your questions via Apple Podcast. Adam and Frank here. I'm Adam Azer with Frank Stamfel. Ready for another mailbag. What's up, Frank? What's up, Adam? Pretty excited. The weekend is here,
Starting point is 00:01:44 and it's my first time doing a podcast with Jamie. So it's pretty exciting. Friend of the program, Jamie Eisenberg is here. Jamie, welcome. Great to have you on. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. This has been a dream of mine to do a show with you, Frank.
Starting point is 00:01:56 If we can just get rid of Adam, it'll be great. Not cool, man. I'm calling the Fantasy Cops on you. The cops are coming later on in the show to settle your league disputes. Some real shady stuff going on in leagues. You know one thing? I got an email from somebody that was like, a trade went down and the commissioner was going to back it out.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And then the guy was like, I'm going to quit the league and drop all my players. That is like the lamest thing. And I hear that enough in fantasy where it's like, please don't be that guy or that girl. Can I ask a question? If you were ever in a league where you were the commissioner or a player and the guy said, I'm going to quit my league
Starting point is 00:02:34 and drop all my players. What do you think the rest of the league is going to do? Oh, we get all of your players now. Thank you. They're just going to put the players back on the roster and they'll just lock the roster and just play it out that way. It's such a stupid thing. Was that what you would do? Because what happens when that manager's team comes up
Starting point is 00:02:50 in the schedule? The commissioner just sets a lineup for them. I think that's fair. Sets a lineup for them? You get a pretty easy win? Maybe not. Maybe. You don't certainly want to lose to that team. Let's go through some news and notes. A New York Jet tested positive.
Starting point is 00:03:05 This is Friday afternoon. I'm not going to give you COVID news. Let's go through some news and notes. A New York Jet tested positive. So this is Friday afternoon. I'm not going to give you COVID news. You're going to know so much more by the time you listen to this. I like how you start this. A Jets player has tested positive, but I'm not going to give you COVID news. Well, you know, the thing is, Jamie, when you're a – just to teach you a little bit of a hosting lesson, when you're a bad host, you read things,
Starting point is 00:03:23 and then you realize I should not have read that. So hopefully you don't run into that problem, but I did. So yeah, it doesn't really make sense for me to go through that. But a Jet did test positive.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Now we have three games that we're a little concerned about. Tyron Smith is out for the season. Frank, do you think that matters for the Cowboys? Not really. I mean, their offensive line hasn't been great this season
Starting point is 00:03:46 regardless. They've dealt with a lot of injuries, but ultimately, look, they're probably still going to wind up in a lot of shootouts. I don't think it matters all that much, honestly. The biggest thing for the Cowboys is getting Leighton Vanderash back because he comes back to the team.
Starting point is 00:04:02 That's when things will turn around. Okay, I'll shot Jeffrey out this week with an illness. They're at Pittsburgh. Vitavea broke his leg on Thursday night. Terrific, terrific run stuffer. I still think the Bucs are going to have a good run defense, guys. I don't know if it's going to be elite. They've got pieces there, but that's a big deal and disappointing to see.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And Stephen Sims is on IR for Washington. And really, I don't have a lot of news for you here. It's a little bit earlier than when we typically record, so maybe there's some headlines that might come out during the show. Only Joe Mixon's back at practice. You know, he was always going to play. Lamar Jackson was always going to play. LaVisca Chenault's going to play, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Very good DFS price on LaVisca Chenault. Frank, you said a DFS lineup yet? I have kind of tinkered a little bit, but man, start all Texans and Jaguars. Try and get as many of those players in as you possibly can. You're right. Chenault is super cheap. I think he's like 4,500 on DraftKings.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. Okay, let's go to some Apple podcast questions. This is from Alf. Frank, you familiar with Alf? Yeah, I think we talked about this. We did? Okay. That's right, some Apple podcast questions. This is from Alf. Frank, you familiar with Alf? Yeah, I think we talked about this. We did? Okay. That's right, we did. You're right.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You're right. Yeah. Alien Lifeform. Is Frank another Schrager? A little bit, yeah. Yeah, I have some Schrager qualities for sure. Schrager-esque. I think Schrager did something on Twitter on Thursday night
Starting point is 00:05:23 that Jamie does all the time that I just don't think you should do. And that's using a GIF from a show or a movie that you're, you've never seen. And he did that with Fresh Prince. I said, Carlton Davis, household name. He threw Carlton out there and I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:37 you've never seen it, have you? And he said, just clips. He's never seen Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. He's 16 years old. Give him a break. I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:44 I live under a rock, and I'm the worst person that I know in terms of pop culture, but... I know he's young, but no Fresh Prince? It's like a top three sitcom for me. Oh, wow. Gosh. It's good. Miles Gaskin or Dearness Johnson
Starting point is 00:06:00 is the question from Alien Life Forum. I'm going to go with Miles Gaskin. It's a really tough matchup, but he's just playing so many snaps and seeing a lot of touches, a lot of targets too. So until we kind of know what Jarness Johnson is, I will go with Myles Gaskin.
Starting point is 00:06:16 You have to, unless we find out that, and he's in practice today, but unless we find out that Kareem Hunt, that groin injury was a problem, you got to play the lead running back for the Dolphins as opposed to the second guy for the Browns. I think one thing, Adam, that we're going to find out is who is the second pass catcher in the backfield for Cleveland?
Starting point is 00:06:35 Is it going to be Dearness Johnson or will it be Dontrell Hilliard? Because that's a big role. Yeah. From Jazzy Made It, Deontay Johnson or A.J. Brown, if they play? I'll take Deontay Johnson. I'll go with A.J. Brown. I do think it's pretty close, but I know Tredavious White's a little bit banged up.
Starting point is 00:06:55 He's probably going to play if that game happens, but the Bills' defense hasn't been as good this year, so I'll go with A.J. Brown. From Beard, I have Prater on a bye. Who the hell should I pick up? Great kicker discussion. I'll go with AJ Brown. From Beard, I have Prater on a bye. Who the hell should I pick up? Great kicker discussion. Young Ho Koo is back.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Young Way Koo. Young Way Koo. Sorry. I think I picked up. This way, I go that way. You can look at him. You can look at Jason Myers. The Vikings are terrible against kickers. You can look for Blankenship.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Blankenship. He's been exceptional. You can look at Jason Myers. The Vikings are terrible against kickers. You can look for Blankenship. Blankenship. He's been exceptional. There's kickers out there. Drop Prater. I picked up Joey Sly. He's indoors against the Falcons this week. Yep. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:07:36 All aboard the Blankenship. Blankenstein. It's Halloween month. Did you like my joke to start FFT today? I love all your Tom Brady jokes. I'm trying to work Tom Brady jokes into today's show. I just can't really think of anything. I started the show, Frank.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I said, welcome to Thursday's FFT. I go, wait a minute. Oh, I got Tom Brady's calendar. Oh. That was just insane, man. Yes, it was. Oh, gosh. That was embarrassing. This next question is from Iceman247, but Tom Brady, it was. Oh, gosh. That was embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:08:05 This next question is from Iceman247, but Tom Brady thinks it's from Iceman246. Two wide receiver, non-PPR league. Really? I thought that was so funny, guys. DJ Moore, Cooper Cup, Terry McLaurin. Bench one of them. DJ Moore, Cooper Cup, Terry McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Who are you benching? I think you have to bench DJ Moore. It's been a very disappointing season for him, but the way that those other two are playing, I'm not as worried about McLaurin. I know Nando was on the Twitch stream on Thursday with us, and he was a little bit more worried. I'm not as worried. I think that they're just going to continue to force feed McLaurin. So I will bench DJ Moore there, unfortunately. Okay. Jamie, you're still there? I agree. I think DJ Moore is unfortunately the last man out.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I wasn't asking about that. I was just seeing if you were there because I thought my joke was so funny. I was just curious why you didn't laugh. From Josh Moe, wide receiver is between DJ Moore, Deontay Johnson. Flex is between James Robinson and DJ Chark.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Moore or Deontay Johnson and then James Robinson and DJ Chark. So Moore or Deontay Johnson and then James Robinson or DJ Chark. I'd go with Moore and then a Jaguar. I would go with Moore and James Robinson. I love everybody in that game, but I think when
Starting point is 00:09:19 it's really close, I tend to lean with the running back. Jamie? Yes, Robinson. Yeah, sorry. Delayed. There you go. We're wearing that one out. From Fetty608, but Tom Brady thinks it's Fetty... Never mind. Flex and wide receiver
Starting point is 00:09:35 options. I don't know how many he needs. Hollywood Brown, T. Higgins, LaVisca Chenault. Who's your favorite there? Rank them. I would go... Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on. I understand what he needs. Pick one wide receiver and one flex from these five. Hollywood Brown, T. Higgins, LaVisca Chenault, Justin Jackson, and Dalton Schultz.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I would go with Hollywood Brown. Sorry, Jamie. I would go with Hollywood Brown. Sorry, Jimmy. I would go with Hollywood Brown and LaVisca Chenault. I would go with Hollywood Brown and Dalton Schultz. Jimmy Grandpa, 12-team PPR, Darryl Henderson or Le'Veon Bell? Golden Tate, Chenault, Renfro, pick two. Henderson or Le'Veon Bell? Le'Veon. I think you have to go Le'Veon Bell? Le'Veon. I think you have to go Le'Veon Bell, but just hope that game
Starting point is 00:10:28 happens. Yeah. Golden Tate, LaVisca Chenault, Hunter Renfro. Pick two. Not Hunter Renfro. I agree. That hurts, but you're right. Here's a name that I really... By the way, did you take Le'Veon Bell out of your DFS suggestions today?
Starting point is 00:10:44 No, I didn't. They just forgot to put him in? By the way, did you take Le'Veon Bell out of your DFS suggestions today? No, I didn't. They just forgot to put him in? Well, it makes sense since the game's probably going to get moved. Right? Yeah, because that was one of the guys I was going to ask you about. So I was like, oh, yeah, Evan Ingram. Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Oh, yeah. Oh, you're right. Right. We were doing this show. I originally had Le'Veon Bell as a good buy. And FanDuel, if that game is on Sunday, you originally had Le'Veon Bell as a good buy. On FanDuel, if that game is on Sunday, you look at Le'Veon Bell, then you look at the running backs who are less expensive than Le'Veon Bell.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And most of them are in a shared backfield. They're backups. They're like the Rams guys. Le'Veon Bell might be the cheapest feature back. I don't know if he will be this week, but I think he's a good, I think he's a decent buy. Okay, this is from,
Starting point is 00:11:29 yeah, I don't know that I should read this one. I'm going to read it. Two-inch Titan. Probably, should I have read that? What do you think? No? Tom Brady thinks it's one in, who gets the start?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Greg Olson, Ebron, or Mo Alleycox? Olson, Ebron, or Moe Alleycox? Olson, Ebron, or Moe Alleycox? I kind of like Ebron. I like the matchup. Yes, Ebron is the answer. Okay. Rest of season rankings or questions from Jeff Francisco. Austin Eckler in the 10th or Clyde Edwards-Eagler in the second round in a keeper league?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Who do you like better? I think you have to take the round value with Eckler, right? They signed him to a contract extension. He should still be heavily involved moving forward, I would imagine. Hopefully. I hope you don't have to make this decision today, which would be really weird.
Starting point is 00:12:20 From Samson Knight. That's funny. 1-4-2-3. Grade the trade. Give up Chris Carson and get Patrick Mahomes. I have Kareem Hunt, James Robinson, Le'Veon Bell, Phillip Lindsey, and Daryl Henderson. I have Breeze and Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Give up Chris Carson, get Mahomes. I like it. I don't love it. I prefer to keep the running back depth. And you can kind of just play the matchups with quarterbacks. I'll go C-. John in the Lone Star State. Grade the trade, non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Give up Melvin Gordon, Damian Harris, and Jamison Crowder. Melvin Gordon, Damian Harris, Jamison Crowder. Get DeAndre Hopkins and Malcolm Brown B plus B solid it is a non PPR league so Gordon Harris Crowder for Hopkins and Malcolm I mean Gordon's headed for a
Starting point is 00:13:18 timeshare again because Lindsay's back I'm excited about Damian Harris but he's a Patriots running back so you know how that's going to go and then who's the third guy Jamison Crowder I'm excited about Damien Harris, but he's a Patriots running back. So you know how that's going to go. And then who's the third guy? Jamison Crowder. Yeah. I mean, he's not great in non PPR anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah. All right. From Logan are great. The trade give Dak Prescott and Josh Kelly get Jonathan Taylor. See, I would want to know who your quarterback is if you trade away Dak Prescott. So need a little bit more context there, but yeah, it's fine. See from fool's karma,
Starting point is 00:13:50 gray, the trade Derek. Oh, he's got, he's got, uh, Derek Henry, James Connor,
Starting point is 00:13:58 Miles Gaskin, Deandre Swift, and Keyshawn Vaughn, Henry Connor, Gaskin, Swift, and Vaughn. Give up Mike Davis to get Austin Eckler.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah, I guess, right? I think you should try and trade Mike Davis for something in the meantime, but this is a move that you're looking towards the fantasy playoffs, and hopefully Eckler could be a flex player for you at that point, so it's fineler could be like a flex player for you at that point. So it's fine.
Starting point is 00:14:27 It's like a B minus. I just traded Mike Davis and Justin Jefferson for Devante Adams for a, to a team that's one in three that just lost Nick Chubb. Wow. Have Adams needed to win, needed to get something this week. And so desperate. That's not fair. You got to look at scenarios like this when you're playing,
Starting point is 00:14:45 like, you know, the Eckler managers is stuck and could need at least a one week win. And Mike Davis gives them a much better opportunity to do that. And so, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:54 you should be trying right now to trade for Christian McCaffrey, to trade for Julio Jones, trade for Michael Thomas before he plays, you know, and he doesn't play. That's another week of him not being out there.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So those are the type of guys you try to acquire now, especially if you have the depth to do so. By the way, you know, Acer trades, right? Can we rename them bomber trades? Because one of our producers... Nobody knows what that is, though. I was about to say, Andrew Bomber, one of our producers,
Starting point is 00:15:18 like I'll even have him on the show. He offers the worst trades I've ever seen. He offered me Cole Beasley and Robert Tanyan for Chris Godwin. And that's the best trade. And then he's offered Dave trades that are even worse than that. And I see the trades because I'm on Dave's. I don't really share a team, but I'm on the team with Dave, whatever. But I see the trades.
Starting point is 00:15:39 They're just awful. So these are bomber trades from now on. These are not Acer trades. And I will do everything I can to shame Andrew Bomber on the show. I'm going to have to have him on. These are not Acer trades. And I will do everything I can to shame Andrew Bomber on the show. I'm going to have to have him on and yell at him, I think. All right, let's get back to the Apple podcast questions. We've got your emails coming up. I found another one. He made a trade offer to another one of our producers that they shared with me. And then Bomber's reply to that was, haven't you guys ever seen the art of the deal?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Oh, yeah. And I said, your deals are paint by numbers. So stop sending these bad trades. bomber's reply to that was haven't you guys ever seen the art of art of the deal oh yeah and i said your deals are paint by numbers so stop sending these bad trades they're so bad okay from orchids of asia trade cam acres and robert tanyan oh this is a bomber trade for julian edelman acres and tanyan for edelman i don't think it's a bomber trade no No, it's not. Just that Tanya. I mean, you got to believe, if you do, that Robert Tanya is going to be a top 12 caliber tight end rest of way. And there's a very good chance that he could be while Alan Lazard is out. I mean, you've seen the targets there for him the last two games. Now, Devante Adams hasn't played.
Starting point is 00:16:38 But he plays a position that if you can find a guy that's productive, and right now, for what it's worth, he's top three tight end in fantasy, it's clearly not going to be sustainable but if he goes from three to twelve he's probably better than edelman given what those guys do with their respective positions you got to be a little concerned about edelman he's had one good game it was a shootout against seattle he was okay in week one uh but you got to be a little concerned right i mean he's not like a slam he's not edelman anymore obviously but i agree that's why i don't know it's not a bomber trade i'm just kidding but cam acres and robert tonyan for julian edelman how would you grade that
Starting point is 00:17:14 he's getting edelman yeah d i'd say c i mean mean, because if, look, we had the great game from Edelman. Then they had the running game against the Raiders. And then Cam was out. What do you think Edelman would have done in that Chiefs game? I thought he was going to have a great game. Well, you know, look,
Starting point is 00:17:40 Demir Bird and Nikhil Harry had better games than him. And they're not invisible. I mean, they get some work. The whole thing about Cam being out, it's like the funny thing about that is I'm not sure that's bad for wide receivers because Cam's a better quarterback than Brian Hoyer, but he's not necessarily going to throw for more yards. Okay, but it was Hoyer.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I'm talking about retrospectively for the Chiefs game. He's not going to necessarily throw for more yards than Hoyer or Stidham because he runs so much. You know what I mean? But you saw the one-game sample size of them facing a good offense that they had to throw. Yeah, it's a one-game sample size also facing a terrible defense. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I thought that he was going to have a good game against Chiefs. I did too. That's why it's concerning. You think the guy's going to have a good game. No, with Cam. Yeah. He will still be the top guy with Cam, but I think Edelman,
Starting point is 00:18:36 look, he'll have higher upside in games that you expect it to be. They'll be playing from behind, more competitive games, but games where they're big favorites, you're probably not going to see a lot of targets or receptions for Edelman. Right. Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Great white hark. Great the trade. Half PPR. Give up Robert Woods. Get Julio Jones. B? Question mark? Yeah, I'll give it B+. I think so, yeah from you're gonna get a better player cdm083 grade the trade ceh aj brown and noah fant for david montgomery odell beckham and
Starting point is 00:19:20 travis kelsey so it's clyde eberd ziller aj brown and fant for montgomery beckham and Travis Kelsey. So it's Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, A.J. Brown and Fant for Montgomery, Beckham and Kelsey. Hmm. So it's a pretty big downgrade at running back. Yeah. I don't like it. Pretty big upgrade at tight end.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Wide receiver is kind of a wash if A.J. Brown is healthy. Yeah. C plus. I think if, I mean, if you have the running back depth to move on from Edward to layer and still get somebody, you can start in his place if needed in Montgomery,
Starting point is 00:19:52 you're upgrading a tight end. And the, yeah, like you said, the wide receivers are washed. So I think it's a C. Okay. The emperor is back.
Starting point is 00:19:58 10 team rest of season question. Dear Clint, Brett, Aaron, Aaron, and Mike. Oh, so ironic that they like, by the time people listen to this,
Starting point is 00:20:06 they might be eliminated. The empire might be out. That would be the Yankees, by the way. I'm 0-4. I can't blame it all on injuries. I've done the redraft game in my head, and boy, I should have taken Kamara over Saquon. I also drafted Julio Jones, Chris Godwin, and Raheem Mostert.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I was able to pick up Mike Davis. So I guess rest of season, what is your opinion on managing these individuals, especially Julio Jones and Chris Godwin? I think it's tough because if you're a team that's one in three at this point and you're desperate, you might have to trade one of these players away
Starting point is 00:20:42 for not full value in order to get something to help you win now. You don, you might have to trade one of these players away for not full value in order to get something to help you win now. You don't want your team to just crumble, but I still think they're going to be really productive players when they're healthy. It's just we don't know exactly when that is going to be. I would imagine the next couple of weeks at least
Starting point is 00:20:56 for Godwin and Julio, but if you're 1-3 or 0-4, I think you've got to start to make some moves. What's the tipping point for you guys in terms of losses when you think you don't really have a chance to be competitive? 0-4, I think you got to start to make some moves. What's the tipping point for you guys in terms of losses when you think you don't really have a chance
Starting point is 00:21:07 to be competitive? 0-5. I think three games under 500. Yeah, I mean, I'm 0-4 in the podcast league, but I actually really do believe in my squad. I really think
Starting point is 00:21:20 we're going to come back. I think we're going to go on a four-game winning streak. 0-5, though. So if you lose this week, are you shaking things up? No. If I lose this week,
Starting point is 00:21:30 I will continue to be aggressive on the waiver wire and set my lineup, but I will probably be less interested in making trades because I will honestly feel like I'm out of it. I'm sorry. Why would you make a trade that could help you? Because I have 11 teams, and I probably won't. I'm just being 100% honest with you,
Starting point is 00:21:46 probably won't prioritize that. I'm not going to be the kind of fantasy manager that quits on the league and sucks, but I probably will put more focus into my other teams. That's just if I'm being 100% honest. Does that make me a bad person? No. Sorry, I was supposed to be the fantasy guy.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's natural human behavior but it's like if you have a chance like i i think a lot of us fall victim to i don't know how many leagues you play in frank but um when you play in all these a lot of leagues you like you said you prioritize the ones that are doing better or you have more monetary interest in or whatever the case may be um we tend to post like an on the block here. I'm looking to make these trades instead of like where most fantasy managers are aggressive in making those trades.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And that's part of, I think, the problem when you get to these teams. So it's natural. No, it's tougher. I play in eight leagues and I wish I could just sit down and dedicate time to looking at trade offers in all of them,
Starting point is 00:22:43 but it's just not realistic. So like you said, I mean, send a message out and tell people what's available, and hopefully you get trade offers in return. But I do have my home league, my homekeeper league, longest standing league, where I probably pay closer attention to that than anything else because it means the most to me.
Starting point is 00:22:59 So again, yeah, just being honest. I've tried so hard in that league to make trades. Tight end is just I've been starting Gronkowski. I've tried so hard. Nobody wants to give me a fair deal, in my opinion. They've asked for like... Well, it's you making those trades, though. I'm just saying they keep basically going for blood.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And I'm just like, no, screw you. And then I lose. I've lost two weeks specifically because I've gotten like, like one or two points or zero points from tight ends. And maybe I'm, maybe I should have given in, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:36 right. He was dropped. I did pick up cook. I picked up Jared cook. Yeah, I was, I didn't realize he was available. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah. Look for, look for TJ Hawkinson too. I mean, just for teams out there. Because I have a few leagues where he was dropped because he's on a buy, where I'm struggling at tight end,
Starting point is 00:23:49 and I'm going to pick him up and stash him. I held Tanyan. I picked him up last week. I played him in a couple leagues, and I was reluctant to drop him just because in case he does become something legitimate. Yeah, you just can't drop a good tight end. They're just so valuable.
Starting point is 00:24:04 All right, last question here from Apple Podcast. Diego wants to know, Mike Davis, Hawkinson, and Thielen. Giving up Mike Davis, TJ Hawkinson, and Adam Thielen for Robbie Anderson and Jamison Crowder. Grade that trade. So you're basically giving up Thielen for those guys? For Anderson and Connor, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I think it's good. Oh, Connor. I thought you said Crowder. Oh, I hope I didn't. Connor. Yeah, no, that changes things. I'll go B+. Yeah, I'll say A. Good job. You may lose Mike Davis having a
Starting point is 00:24:40 great game this week, but this is your window to trade him because once you hit Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday, whenever we get the reports of Christian McCaffrey is going to return to practice, he's done. He is got zero value to anybody.
Starting point is 00:24:53 So let me, let me follow up on that because I have read and heard that he is going to still be involved. Doesn't matter. Now he might have zero value, but we have to talk about this. Do you think he's evolved enough where McCaffrey is no longer McCaffrey? Different conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So, yes, you're right. He still may be involved, and McCaffrey may not be the guy that we had last year. That's totally feasible. But if you are looking to maximize Mike Davis, you have to trade him before the game. Because let somebody else have that one week benefit of Mike Davis. You get a James Conner in return. I mean, imagine that. What you're getting in return?
Starting point is 00:25:32 A borderline first-round pick. You have to do that. I would agree with that. And I think Mike Davis will have a role, but I can't imagine it being more than six to eight touches per game, which will eat into McCaffrey. We're not going to get the 25 to 30 touch McCaffrey anymore, but close to 20 touches per game,
Starting point is 00:25:48 still a lot of targets, red zone usage. I think you could expect all those things out of McCaffrey. All right, let's do this. The Fantasy Cops. Send us your emails, fantasyfootballatcbs.com. Put Fantasy Cops in the subject line. Someone sent me, this is from Juan. Thank you, Juan, for calling the cops.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Someone sent me Dalvin Cook and Tyler Lockett for Christian McCaffrey. They're 3-0 when they sent the trade, and I was 0-3. I accepted it in the morning, giving up McCaffrey and getting Dalvin Cook and Tyler Lockett. I accepted it in the morning.
Starting point is 00:26:20 As soon as I woke up, I come to find out he was drunk when he sent it. People are complaining that it's a crappy trade obviously no collusion but should there be mercy for drunk mistakes because i kind of feel bad i took it if he was drunk lol regulate drunk trades fair game oh 100 as somebody who likes to dabble in the uh in the beers, I've sent a few drunk trades out myself. And look, if it happens, that's on you, man. Like, no, I am not rescinding that trade. I wouldn't feel bad either.
Starting point is 00:26:55 You're 0-3. Got to turn it around. Yeah, that's a really bad trade. But that is very funny. I was like, what happens the next time that person makes a trade and he doesn't like it the next day? Does he say, oh, yeah, I was drunk? Yeah, just say it every time, right?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Right. Got to be responsible. All right, this is from Zach. Deer, butcher, Huey, Frenchie, and MM. No idea. Frank, you know this, right? Butcher, Huey, Frenchie, and MM. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:24 First year player in our league just dropped zach earths for robert tanyan he has two dsts two kickers and jimmy graham available to drop but he dropped zach earths instead my philosophy as a commissioner has been let anything but collusion happen but this seems extremely odd do i step in here to protect the balance of the league or just say it's a dumb but legal move. First year player dropping Earths instead of a second kicker. So what I would do in this scenario is if this is like a friend of yours
Starting point is 00:27:52 that you invited to the league and it's his first time playing and he does not know what he's doing or she doesn't know what she's doing, you know, that person doesn't know what they're doing, then I think you just say, hey, listen, they didn't realize that you don't have to drop a tight end for a tight end.
Starting point is 00:28:05 You can drop a kick. You don't have to carry it to defense. I would allow them to have Zachary's back. Because if this is somebody you want to be part of your league for a long time, then why would you ruin the experience for them? Because they didn't know what they were doing. Yeah. And we all started somewhere, right?
Starting point is 00:28:18 So it's, yeah, I think you just kind of talk to the person and make them like, hey, you probably spent a decent amount of draft capital on Zachary. You probably shouldn't drop him. But I will say, I play in a family league where my sister dropped Leonard Fournette after week one. I was like, didn't you use a fourth or fifth round pick on him? And I picked him up, but he's been quite useless. Oh, she knew what she was doing.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It really wasn't the worst thing. Joke's on you, Frank. Right. How about that? By the way, Butcher Huey, Frenchie, and MM, that is the boys. The boys. This is from... I want to watch, Frank. Right. How about that? By the way, Butcher Huey Frenchie and MM, that is the boys. The boys. I want to watch that show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I don't. I don't have time. I don't have time, Frank. I got to finish Schitt's Creek first. This is from Joe. In my league last week, two of the managers decided to make a trade because one of those managers had Juju and Connor, whose games were postponed from COVID.
Starting point is 00:29:06 However, this trade was called into question because it was Juju for Jonathan Taylor, and they also agreed to trade the players back once the week was over. So it was essentially a one-week rental player. Also, these two managers who made the trade are legitimately best friends, so a few of the other guys in the league were screaming collusion.
Starting point is 00:29:26 It looked like a scenario where one guy was just giving his friend a very nice addition in Jonathan Taylor just for one week. What do you say, fantasy cops? Oh, that's terrible. I hate this. Trade me one guy for a bye week or no. No, you can't do it. Or like in baseball, trade me a guy for like a two-star week or something. I'll trade you.
Starting point is 00:29:43 No, no, you can't do that. No tradebacks. It's insane. It'sstar week or something. I'll trade you. No, no, you can't do that. No tradebacks. It's insane. It's the definition of collusion. It really is. How can you even justify that? Okay, we're going to make a trade, a one-week trade. The player you're giving me is on a buy.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And then I'm going to give him back to you. Obviously, it's nonsense. And you've been regulated. So what's the result? What do you do? Take those points away, honestly. What do you make them stick with the trade? Like you made the trade.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Okay. Yeah, you can do that. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Much better idea, Jamie. You're getting promoted. You're a lieutenant now.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Thanks, buddy. I don't know if that's a promotion or not. It seems like what you're the sheriff or take a quick break. A break. When we come back, we've got your emails, fantasy football at cbsi.com. Rest of season questions, starter set questions.
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Starting point is 00:31:45 I try to answer some questions personally. If I don't get to you, I'm really sorry. We got a one-star review on Apple from somebody who said he's been asking us questions for five years and literally has never heard back from us. That's weird. That's bad luck. I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:31:59 But we do our best. We do get a lot. But I want to thank you all for reaching out and being a part of the show. So here's one from Ben. I have news for you before that. Oh, okay, good, good. We do get a lot. But I want to thank you all for reaching out and being a part of the show. So here's one from Ben. I have news for you before that. Oh, okay. Good, good.
Starting point is 00:32:08 What do we got? Colts have ruled out Darius Leonard and Anthony Costanza. Oh. Better news for Kareem Hunt. When did you learn this, Jamie? In the middle of my sentence or during the commercial break? The commercial break. So you shouldn't have told me.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You don't think maybe you should have told me during the commercial break that you had this news no okay i wanted to adjust my rosters first from ben from ben we have one ir spot for injury should i trade robert woods for chris godwin i think this is close, but I think Chris Godwin still has more upside rest of season than Robert Woods. Robert Woods, you know, solid wide receiver too. Godwin, I think, is still low-end wide receiver one.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I would say if you are three and one or better, I would probably do this. I think record does matter here because you may not have Chris Godwin for a couple weeks. We just don't know. While you know Robert Woods is going to give you consistent production. But let me ask you a question. When a guy like Godwin gets hurt and they don't put him on IR,
Starting point is 00:33:15 doesn't that make you optimistic that he will be back within three weeks? Yeah. Pretty much so. But the Eagles are a good example of not putting a player on ir or the pop list and alshon jeffrey and coming back to bite them they're now going to be through five weeks without having that guy available so that's a roster spot that they wasted okay this is uh i don't have a name on this hey jim dwight andy stanley and creed those are office characters and if we were ranking them it would be dwight jim andy stanley creed yes no andy's last why don't you like andy and he's amazing it's not close i well i'm not a creed
Starting point is 00:33:57 guy but i i'm not a creed guy either but i do that was my least popular about andy he just rubs me the wrong way that was my least popular... I don't know. There's something about Andy. He just rubs me the wrong way. That was my least popular take ever when I said that Creed was like the most replaceable character or whatever. I said, I got killed for that. People love Creed. He's a one-liner. You could never make like an episode about Creed.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Okay, I have a start or sit question for you guys. 16th team, half PPR, three receiver league, three bench spots. I have both Jared Cook and Mo Alleycox. I'm thinking of dropping one for Cole Beasley. Does that sound like a good idea? And who should I drop? I mean, you got to worry about Jared Cook's injury.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So yeah, if you have to make the decision on Friday, you can't drop Mo Alleycox. But if you can wait till Saturday to find out what Jared Cook's status is, then you make that move. The problem is that, just keep in mind, the Saints have a bye next week. So you're going to be looking for a tight end again. Yeah, you'll probably drop Cook there for Beasley.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Not that I think Beasley's upside is massive, but he's a solid bye week replacement. This one's from Brad's phone. I give up Chris Carson and Jamison Crowder. I get Alan Robinson and David Johnson. Carson and Crowder for David Johnson and Alan Robinson. Let's see. I like it a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'll go B-. This is from Alan. PPR. Give up Kareem Hunt. Get Keenan Allen and Miles Gaskin. Hunt for Allen and Gaskin. It's you. I wouldn't want to,
Starting point is 00:35:31 but if you're desperate for wide receivers, if it's a three wide receiver league and you're just really struggling, but I would try and shop hunt for maybe something a little bit better. Yeah. Not as good of a wide receiver, but not as big of an RB downgrade. I think the one thing you're going to find with a lot of Kareem Hunt fantasy managers is in some cases, he could have been their fourth running back.
Starting point is 00:35:53 So certainly a lot of people draft him to be their third. So if you're in good shape, let's say you also got James Robinson or you have Mike Davis and you just want to play that whole scenario out, then you should be shopping Kareem Hunt for something that could help you in another spot. But I agree, I think he should be better than Keenan Allen. Not that Allen's going to be bad because we've seen what he looks like with Justin Herbert,
Starting point is 00:36:12 but you might be able to do a little bit better. I was thinking about that. Herbert's been really good. Do you think, though, that we should probably anticipate bumps along the way for Herbert, right? I mean, we've never, in recent history, we haven't really had a must-start quarterback as a rookie. Cam Newton was, but just like really recently, Baker Mayfield was really good for a rookie, but he wasn't a must-start. Daniel Jones,
Starting point is 00:36:38 no. Even Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray was not a top 12 quarterback on a per-game basis. So I'm wondering if Keenan Allen might have some down weeks and this is his peak. What do you think? I think that his targets are going to come down a little bit just because they have to, he has like a 39% target share with Justin Herbert as his quarterback. So I think that's just naturally going to come down a little bit,
Starting point is 00:37:00 but he's still going to be the main guy. So I think he's like a solid wide receiver to high end wide receiver to in PPR. I feel pretty good about that. I do too. I'm just wondering if you can get wide receiver one value for him. Oh yeah. I mean, if you can right now, like now is the time to sell high, but it's kind of like mixing. Don't just sell for the sake of selling him. But if you can sell him high for a legit top 12 wide receiver rest of season then yeah i would look into that yeah the one thing though like i don't know if his targets are gonna come down we don't know mike williams coming back the run game could be shot right now because eckler's gone the defense is certainly shot so
Starting point is 00:37:38 they're gonna be probably in a lot of games where they're trying to score a lot but especially playing from behind where else are they going with the ball? Nobody's going to have a 39% target share, though. I mean, to that level, no. But, you know, 35%, 32%, you know what I mean? Still may be in that range. Yeah, it's going to be very high for sure. He is the go-to guy for Herbert. That's been made very
Starting point is 00:37:57 clear. I wonder what the high is. I wonder what the... I feel like DeAndre Hopkins was like 31%. I'm not sure if I've seen much higher than that. I'm just putting it in context. I haven't been tracking that for that long. But 30% is super high. So just so you know.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And he could get there. He could definitely be among the leaders. All right, this is from John. Did I overpay? Half PPR. Give up Miles Sanders and Robert Woods. Get Dalvin Cook. I also have Galladay, Boyd, McLaurin, and Deontay Johnson.
Starting point is 00:38:27 So give up Sanders and Woods for Dalvin Cook. Yes. Probably an overpay, but you do have a lot of depth. And I think this is a pretty clear upgrade from Sanders to Cook. I would see if that same manager has Madison and try and see if he can get both. Oh, he doesn't because the person who acquired Dalvin Cook already had Alexander Madison. Perfect. Yeah, so good job.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Kevin in Arizona. 10-team half PBR league gives one point for every 10 punt return yards and every 20 kick return yards. I was offered DJ Moore for Mecole Hardman. What would you rather have in this point for return yard league? 10 punt return yards, 20 kick return yards, Hardman or DJ Moore?
Starting point is 00:39:13 Moore. Yep, I'd still rather have Moore. Okay, how about from... Who's this from? Kenny. MVS or Tim Patrick, rest of season? Bonuses for 40 and 50 plus yard touchdowns and 100 yard games.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I think you have to go with the better quarterback. So I'll take MVS. In this scenario, I'd rather have MVS. What I would like to do is give Tim Patrick a week to see. So if you can either hold on to both, do so. If you have to drop one, though, maybe people don't pick up MVS just still in the bye week and struggle the last two games. Because if Patrick has a good game against the Patriots
Starting point is 00:39:48 with or without Stephon Gilmore, he's going to definitely look much more intriguing. Okay, here's one. Trade away Kenyon Drake and Calvin Ridley. Drake and Ridley for David Johnson and Travis Kelsey. I think this
Starting point is 00:40:04 is a pretty fair trade. See, I'd give it a B just because Kelsey is so good at what he is at that position. And Ridley, while he's been great, there's clearly you're seeing some flaws. So the running backs are a wash starter.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Sit from Jeff. I need to sit one running back. Derek Henry, James Connor, Robinson, Mike Davis. This is non-PPR. Who are you sitting? Henry, Conner, Robinson, Davis. Davis. I would sit Conner.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Well, if you can do a backup replacement situation, then it's easy to start Henry. But if you love all your running backs, you know, then it's easy to start Henry. But if you love all your running backs, you might just want to sit Derek Henry. Is that fair to say? I mean, certainly it is,
Starting point is 00:40:52 but, you know, you know what that guy's capable of and he's going to have fresh legs after being off for a week, so. I know, but the game might not be played. Yeah, I mean, that's the risk you run,
Starting point is 00:41:00 but like you said, if you have a designated replacement player, but as of now, we expect the game to be played. So this is a good question overall, right? If you're in a situation where you don't have the opportunity to replace a guy, you know, in our leagues, we're letting people say this player's on my bench. So if this game gets canceled, start this guy. But if you're not in that situation, when you look at Derek Henry,
Starting point is 00:41:21 his other three options are Connor, James Robinson, and Mike Davis. I feel like they're good enough where I'm sitting, Henry. What's your threshold for sitting your stud in a game that you fear might get postponed? I think it's a good point. I mean, all four of those are ranked inside my top 15 running backs this week, so they're all great options. So, yeah, look, if you want to play it safe,
Starting point is 00:41:45 I would say that's probably right around the cutoff. James Conner, like once you get into David Johnson, am I really going to bench Derrick Henry for David Johnson? Probably not. So James Conner might be right around the cutoff. Okay. This is from Daniel. Start two or three of
Starting point is 00:42:01 two of these three wide receivers in half PPR. Beckham, Chark, Fuller. I would use both the guys in that Texans-Jaguars game. I would bench Beckham. Agreed. Yeah. All right, this is from Henry. Why is everyone so high on Jonathan Taylor this week?
Starting point is 00:42:19 He's playing like 60% of the snaps. I mean, they've been in some blowout situations, so that's kind of the reason why he hasn't played a lot in the fourth quarter but i'm going to guess he's going to play a lot in this game because it's a competitive game or should be a competitive game and it's a tough matchup but i i'm hoping they're going to use him a little bit more in the passing game than we've seen the last couple of weeks too well jamie how high do you have i don't know if you have your rankings ahead of him in front of you, but I have Taylor like RB13,
Starting point is 00:42:46 so I have downgraded him from where he has been at the past couple of weeks. So I think he's more of a high-end RB2 than the top 12 running back. Yes, if you have Davis and Robinson, you're starting them over Taylor, or you should. And if Raheem Mostert's out, you should be starting McKinnon over him also. So it's not a slam dunk, but it's very hard to get away from a guy in this offense,
Starting point is 00:43:03 even without Costanzo, that their offensive line is still so good. Here's the follow-up question to this. Pick a flex half PPR. Jonathan Taylor, DJ Moore, Miles Sanders. Still Taylor for me. I think it's really close between the running backs. Tough matchup for Sanders. I will lean with Jonathan Taylor as well.
Starting point is 00:43:24 This is from Seth. I can start up to four of these guys. There are six of them. Chark, Gallup, Fuller, Gage, Chenault, Hardman. This is PPR. I think Chark and Fuller are going to be the obvious ones, right? Yep. So let's pick two of these four then.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Michael Gallup, Russell Gage, LaVisca Chenault, and Nicole Hardman. Gallup and Chenault. Yeah, I would use Gallup and Chenault. Brendan from a city southwest of Hartford, Connecticut. I'm bad at this. Hey, Cyril, Pam, Lana, Ray, and Krieger.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Well, I don't know who it is, but I said Cyril and my Siri just... I don't see a Pam, Lana, Ray. You don't see a Pam, Lana, Ray in my contacts. Thank you, Siri. Okay, very helpful. Full PPR. I need two...
Starting point is 00:44:15 In a PPR league, I need two flex spots. Kenyon Drake, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Kelly. No. Will Fuller, DJ Ch Chark Darius Slayton so pick two of those Drake Jonathan Taylor Fuller
Starting point is 00:44:29 Chark Slayton PPR I like Taylor and Chark I would go Taylor and Fuller also this emailer says
Starting point is 00:44:39 Brendan says that Heath has the best posture he's ever seen does he have good posture? I think he sits like, you know, kind of. Very upright. Okay. I have terrible posture.
Starting point is 00:44:51 That's 100% sure. Yeah. Yeah. Bad, bad stuff. I'll sit like Heath here. Should I open the net? Hey, everyone. No, thanks.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Okay. This is from Jesse. Please rank these in PPR. Josh Kelly, Damian Harris, Miles Gaskin, Debo Samuel. Kelly, Harris, Gaskin, Samuel. Is this just for this week
Starting point is 00:45:18 or rest of season? I would go Kelly, Gaskin, Harris, Samuel. I would go Harris, Gaskin, Harris, Samuel. I would go Harris, Gaskin, Kelly, Samuel. And now start two of these three in standard scoring.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Kareem Hunt, James Robinson, Mike Davis. I guess you got to sit Mike Davis, but I don't feel good about it. Sure. Last question from Adam Miller. I need a flex this week. Half PPR. James White,
Starting point is 00:45:50 Devante Freeman, LaVisca Chenault, Dearness Johnson, or Chase Edmonds? James White, Devante Freeman, LaVisca Chenault, Dearness Johnson,
Starting point is 00:45:59 or Chase Edmonds? Is it embarrassing that I kind of like Devante Freeman? Half PPR. Oh, don't say that out loud. That is very embarrassing that i kind of like davante freeman half ppr oh don't say that out loud it's very embarrassing frank i would go with chanel i'll use freeman okay frank i'll let you finish the show by giving us a 10 second explanation why you like davante freeman this week yeah he was basically treated as the guy for the giants last week he. He had like 15 touches, three red zone opportunities,
Starting point is 00:46:26 and played like 55% of the snaps. And the Cowboys defense is not good. It's hard to argue with that. Thanks a lot, everybody. Good luck this week. We've got fantasy football today in five. That'll drop in this feed and in the FFT in five feed about 8.30 a.m. on Sunday morning.
Starting point is 00:46:44 We've got CBS Sports HQ beginning at 10 AM until kickoff. We've got a Twitch at noon, Eastern twitch.com slash FF today and 4 PM Eastern watching that giants Cowboys game with Steve Weatherford and DeMarcus Ware and Ando Dufino and Will Brinson and maybe Dave Richard. It's going to be a lot of fun Sunday, 4 PM Eastern twitch.com slash FF today. I want to thank Jamie Eisenberg and Frank Stample
Starting point is 00:47:06 and all of you for listening. I'm Adam Azer. Hope you're enjoying your weekend, and let's go get a win in week five.

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