Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (12/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

Kicking it off with your YouTube comments (4:00) and news and notes. Then we read your emails (21:00) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com, hear from the Fantasy Cops (40:00) and answer your questions from App...le Podcast (49:10), Spotify (53:15) and YouTube (56:10) Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:09 It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It's mailback time. What's going on? Welcome to this show. Adam Azer, Dan Schneier here. And maybe surprise appearance from Dave Richard, keeping our fingers crossed on this mailbag episode of fantasy football today, presented by
Starting point is 00:02:30 BetMGM. Make it legendary. We have a legendary fantasy cop's text message, another text message to read, Dan. I have no issues now. You guys gave me the green light to violate privacy, and I am all about it now. It went well last week, so let's do it again. Last week, Mike O'Don, is the best fantasy cops in the history of the mailback. I am excited, but can we top that? You think it Wait until you read the text message today is just, it's just, you know, it's funny. If I looked back, there were some vitriol on some of the emails and text messages that went down in my leagues over the years. I would love to throw some of those back.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah, this one, this one's a fun one as well. By the way, some news coming in, Marvin Harrison Jr. is out. Kyler Murray is not going to play this season. He's been ruled out for the year. Wow. Get to some more news in a minute. Let's start with. Injury ruled out or they just said, we don't want you anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I don't know. I don't know the specifics, but... Why doesn't he want me, man? Is that the line? What was that? You know the Will Smith scene? Oh, in Fresh Prince. Uncle Phil, why don't he love me, man?
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah, I don't know. It's one of the most emotional scenes in the history of television, for me, at least. I already forgot the quote, so it couldn't have had that much of an impact on me. I remember it, though. That's a good point. I'll never forget, yeah, well, we're so rich. How come we can't afford a ceiling? Remember that scene?
Starting point is 00:03:50 That's from Fresh Mint? No. Yeah, that they pan up and shows that they're like, on a set and there's all those. Oh, no, I know. I don't know that. And I did watch that show growing up a bunch, but yeah, great show. Your memory loses, yep.
Starting point is 00:04:01 All right, so today, YouTube comments, Apple podcast questions, Spotify questions, emails, of course, at Fantasy Football at CBS.com. That's the letter I. Fantasy football at CBSI.com. And, oh, Fantasy cops. All right. Let's start with your comments on YouTube. Yes, Jaden, good job picking up Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:04:23 and we don't really have any questions yet. Wait, what's the Jaden latest on Jaden? He's playing this week. He practiced in full. He's not officially playing, but he practiced in full. He's playing this. I can't believe they're doing that. Here's one.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I have a big issue with the show, Adam. I'm a long-term fan, but it was very disappointing to hear Dan, not ever watching Terminator, especially Part 2. Let's make this happen for Dan. Yeah, I mean, look, I'll be honest with the Edison. I haven't seen a lot of great movies that have appeared. I just, I don't know what it is wrong with me. I don't understand what happened as a child or at any point in my life to get me to this
Starting point is 00:04:58 point, but I haven't seen it. I haven't seen one. I haven't seen one. I haven't seen any of the Rockies. We went over that last week. That's low on my list. I'm probably not going to go watch Rocky. But Terminator has sci-fi in it, right?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Adam, it's like a sci-fi thing. So that gets me. So I will probably give that a shot at some point. My next thing is I'm going to watch Alien, the movies. I never saw that one and two and then watch the new series they had on Netflix because I, I think I'll like that. So this is going to come later, Terminator. Dave, Dave, you just heard, you got a glimpse into the mailbag of what is wrong with Dan.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's basically a diet. It's therapy. How much time we got? Yeah, it's not enough. Not that much today. So let's go to this question. Should I sit Devante Smith for Chris Godwin or Kyle Monongai? I get where you're coming from on that, but I wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I just think that there's a more upside with Smith, especially in a matchup that's favorable for. when he gets targets and when he does go off, it's against zone coverage and he should be able to win on some in breaking routes there. I like that. I think it's between him and Godwin for me. We did Tampa tape for Beyond the Box Sword this week. I was actually really impressed with Godwin.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Thank you. Thank you. I was not. I was. And Baker missed him on multiple times where he sat in zone and Baker just couldn't get through him to him in the progression. I think that's just going to improve with time and the report. I actually think I'd go Godwin.
Starting point is 00:06:21 here okay wow you've talked yourself into godwin over the bus if evans plays i can't go godwin and he might play i don't think that hurts him really personally i i did good we have never seen it's not a vault uh we've never seen this we have never seen evans abuka god right last year we didn't see a third option ever also don't think evans is playing this week is he might practice again today he might play all right let's go to this one start the way Dave I haven't asked you this because you haven't been on mailbag sure are you on a scale of one to 10 rate if you think like dad jokes I'll just put it that way dad jokes 10 being you love them you want to hear them you think they're funny you think they're clever
Starting point is 00:07:08 one being you could do better what I mean you could do better oh that's a bad one one is what is they're awful they suck what is they're just not okay I'll I'll rephrase this one is one is you you don't laugh when you hear them 10 is you just crack up it's just you can't lose your mind they're so funny i mean like seven or eight like usually i appreciate creativity and adam will tell you like i get mad at him when he's not creative when he gets me for game of the week so when i hear a clever dad joke well i didn't say clever i didn't say clever there are clever ones and they're uncle yeah but i appreciate them i like them for that okay all right listen i got i got an email here from Ryan, and it says holiday theme dad joke. So, Dan, why was the letter
Starting point is 00:07:54 E the only letter to receive a gift from Santa Claus? Because all the other letters were naughty. What? Clever, naughty. Oh, ha ha ha. All right, okay. Let's answer this question on the screen here, because I actually have to go in 45 minutes. So meal, start two. Evan Neal, Ashton Gentie, R.J. Harvey, Bam Knight. I think the rookies. Well, Neal's a rookie. Gentie and Harvey. Harvey's the lock here. I wish, I hate when they don't do the PPR or the standard for me, but we're just going to assume half, I think. Harvey's the lock.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Like, I got to go Gentie over the other two, but it's a lot just because he's evolved enough in the passing game to give him that floor. But man, that old line is terrible. But yeah, Gentie. All right. This is a super flex question. Tyler Shuck and Jaden Daniels or one of these two, Cortland Sutton, Jacobi Myers. So basically, would you start Sutton or Settner Myers? I'm always starting the quarterback. Yeah, I would too.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Why doesn't Dan love Christmas? Because Santa doesn't use truck drivers. See, that's actually, see, that's more funny to me to hear a callback joke, like circling back to something like a reference or something like that. That's more clever and funny to me than like, oh, they were all naughty or whatever. Okay. Half PPR Flex 2 McLaren, Dobbs, Worthy, Schultz.
Starting point is 00:09:24 All right, let's, we're not going to go with Algeria. We're not going to go with Worthy. So let's pick two. McLaren, Dobbs, Schultz, Rodriguez. It's easy too. I think it's McLaren Rodriguez for me. The half-p-r makes me want to lean toward either Dobbs or Schultz. Actually, you're right on Rodriguez for half-me-ardis.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah, I might go with Schultz. It's not a great matchup for him, but he just gets so much volume. Maybe McLaurin Dobbs for me. I don't think about him. I don't hate it. I do like Rodriguez moving forward, though. I want to be clear, I do like Rodriguez a lot moving forward with him. I don't know how you could like him a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I don't know. Because we watch the tape and their run game looks good. Yeah, but he. No, I. What's that not like? He doesn't catch the ball ever. Catch the ball. And he doesn't get that many carries.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Great. What do you mean he doesn't get that many? He doesn't get that many. He's like one game with more than 12 carries. He gets the red zone carries He does But now Daniels is back Their offenses could be really good
Starting point is 00:10:22 With Daniel's back I yeah I mean I like What are we competing against The likes of like Kenneth Walker In his time chair Where he doesn't get goal lines Like there's nothing
Starting point is 00:10:29 What are we looking at Past like RB11 We're looking at a lot of nonsense At the running that position A lot of players you cannot rely on He has two targets this year I know He's not a gold at all in the past game
Starting point is 00:10:40 I can't love a guy who has two targets All season Okay let me let me rephrase it at By love I love relative to the context of the running back position in fantasy right now. All right. You're doing a lot of rephrasing today. So just that's what I always do.
Starting point is 00:10:54 This is a start two. Ameca, Bucca, Nico Collins, Chris Olave. Nico and Olave for me. Agreed. Jacoby Bressett or Joe Burrow? Burrow. Joey. Baker or Lamar?
Starting point is 00:11:10 Oh. I think you're going to. I would. Somebody say my name? What? No. Dude, get out of my chair. Oh, my chair.
Starting point is 00:11:20 God, please. Oh, my God. How's it going? Wow, what an appearance. Oh, my gosh. Joey Wright. What's up? Joey Wright.
Starting point is 00:11:30 How are you doing? That was awesome. As I live and breathe. That was great. You need to go. I would have like a little more physicality. It's about time I come down to South Florida and claim the office that one day I was hoping was going to be mine. But for a couple of minutes, I'll sit here with you.
Starting point is 00:11:45 That's the King's office down there. Whenever I visit Fort Lauderdale, I always, you know, peruse the office. I get my little desk that's like nobody around. And then I check over and I see Dave grinding away in that office. Well, this is a nice surprise. All right, we can. Let's let's that looked like the Patriots linebackers hitting Jackson Dart the other night out of that that looked like.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So anyway, I'm trying to. Joey, you can follow him at the Joey Wright. He works for football guys. I don't know if we're, are we apparently hiring. He's got a plug. I didn't, I was expecting that.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I was trying to make you guys laugh. Now he's moving. Now he's working as CBS today. DJ Moore or Adonai Mitchell? You get, so somebody else is off camera saying Adonite Mitchell. And I agree with that. He's getting tons of targets.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Even when Garrett Wilson, if he comes back, I still like Adonai Mitchell. Yeah. Um, start two. D.K. Metcalf,
Starting point is 00:12:42 Brian Thomas Jr. Adonai Mitchell. bam night yikes i kind of like bam night like it's an rb2 this week um
Starting point is 00:12:53 and man i don't know yeah i'm going bam and dk yeah dan outside um i don't think they can hear you i don't really want to
Starting point is 00:13:06 it's like it all sounds horrible i think bam night's the one i feel the most comfortable with yeah all right i think the most upside is is actually BTJ Dan is a 30 year old curmudgeon I hate this tag
Starting point is 00:13:18 that I'm a curmudgeon First of all Thank you for 30 The guy who's just crapping all over dad jokes You're a good time For everyone here Wow
Starting point is 00:13:27 Wow dude Wow You know what Okay noted Noted That's good Take that out on you On the tennis courts
Starting point is 00:13:33 Did you hear about the wig Accident the other day No The police are combing Through the evidence Ah ha Nice Joe you didn't like that one
Starting point is 00:13:44 I didn't better with like... I don't like that long. No, yeah, that one actually is... Yeah, okay, at best. I'll start rating these. That's a 4-4 on the dad-jokes scale. All right. All right, we're going to come back to your YouTube comments a little bit later.
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Starting point is 00:14:41 I just don't like dad jokes. What else am I a cramudgeon about? I'm pretty jolly happy guy. You're not going to see the Rocky movies? No, I'm not a crumagin about it. I just haven't seen them. That's not being a cramagin. You just said, like, I don't have time of what I'm not going to watch Rocky movies.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Movies. Why would I watch a movie when I can watch TV shows? You're a commodging about movies. It's a pretty good impression, but I never said why would I watch movies when I could watch. A crumagine is a grumpy, bad tempered, difficult person who is often stubborn and full of resentment. That is not me, dude. You're not full of resentment. Or stubborn.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm going to compromise on so many things. I'm stubborn? Oh, yes, you're way more stubborn than me. Way more stubborn than me. It's not even remotely close. And when it comes to temper, there's no doubt that you're... Adam definitely has a bigger temper. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I guess so. Evidence by the show. Go to the tape. Will you just shut up already? Look at those shoulders raised. You know he's serious on those shoulders. All right. Sunday, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern YouTube.com
Starting point is 00:15:40 slash fantasy football today. We'll see you there. Go to the 64.com, vote for the best sports podcast slash radio show. We are in the finals. Help us win this thing at the 64.com. Very cool. They also have a very fun holiday movie tournament that I voted in, by the way. So it's a cool website.
Starting point is 00:15:56 The 64.com. Who advanced to the finals against us? Oh, who was it again? Let's see. Was it PMT? No. The power trip. The power trip.
Starting point is 00:16:04 They beat the Pat McAfee show. I have a conspiracy theory, Dan. Okay. Oh, I'm voting right now, by the way. Adam Azer owns the 64. Ooh, interesting. Interesting. Because here we are in the finals, and somehow so many other really, really good shows are not in the finals.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. Like, I expected to go up against Pat McAfee. I expected to get our butts kicked by Pat McAfee. And all of a sudden, Adam just become very promotional for the 64, including just now. Oh, I voted on this other tournament. It was really great. So my conspiracy theory is that Adam owns the site. Yeah, there does seem to be a little cross-pollination there.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I will say this, if that's not true and there is no conspiracy, well, shout out to our listeners and all the people voting for us. You guys are crushing it. We've always had up a great community here. But yeah, I got to keep my eye on that one. I wouldn't put that past Adam. I own very, very few things in life, Dave. Like, a Tremed Oda website is pretty unrealistic. All right, quick news and notes.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Marvin Harrison Jr. is out. Kyler Murray is out for this season, as I mentioned. But also, Trey Benson is not playing this week, and they did not rule out him not playing at all this season. So I'm not sure Trey Benson's going to happen. Mike Evans and Tristan Wirthes, both practice. Evans has a chance to play. For Buffalo, Josh Palmer's doubtful.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Joey Bosa is out. Dalton Kincaid and right tackle Spencer Brown are questionable. Left tackle Dion Dawkins will play. Joey Wright, thank you very much for hanging out and hopping on the show and beating up Dave. We're going to take a break when we come back. at Fantasy Football at CBSI.com. From holiday parties to festive roast by the fire,
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Starting point is 00:20:05 Service fees exclusions and terms. supply i think we lost dave and joey all right yeah i don't know he severally i was gonna ask where they're going for lunch i'm very curious which oh they're going to lunch clearly what did they say that no i just that where else would they be going that just feels like a type of thing they were doing i think it's probably to your lispata's thing again maybe i can't even comment on it because i'd at the risk of being called a grimudgeon about that place but uh by the way dan i'm going back to lunch today to the place that served me a sandwich with a bug on the lettuce two weeks ago. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't hear that. I told it on the Sunday morning show. I guess I
Starting point is 00:20:45 didn't say it on this show. Maybe I said, no, I think I did with Jamie last week. Yeah, I was eating a sandwich. I never get lettuce on a sandwich. I decided to get lettuce on a sandwich. Lettuce falls out of my sandwich. I pick it up. I look at it. There's a little bug crawling around the antenna. I'll never forget the antenna. What happened? What'd you do? I asked for a new sandwich without lettuce. I ate it. I'm going back today. Wait, you went, you still ate something from that place. I mean the same thing today, buddy. Why? It's so good. I go, what am I going to do? What did you, what did they say when you showed the bug? They were apologetic. Just apologetic or like mortified? I mean, I think they probably could have given me my money back, but I didn't ask.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Well, you didn't even get anything back. Oh, they remade the sandwich. They remade the sandwich. The place I'm going to today, which I've been excited about going to forever, listen to the sandwich. I'm going to get. It's called Ferraro's Italian specialties. Now, this is what I mean. When I say, you know, poo-poo a place like Lasbottas, I got places like Varro's Italian specialties. I'm getting Michael's belly buster, chicken cutlet, sharp provolone, hot fryer pepper peppers,
Starting point is 00:21:49 broccoli rob and crispy prosciutto with the balsamic glaze. I mean, you just don't beat that. That's a really good. That's very good. That's very good. No, why are you out on broccoli barb? It's so good. I'm only in on the Andy Bernard version of broccoli rob.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I don't even know what that is. That's the name. of his a cappella group at Cornell. No, no, that's the name of one of the members of his Acapella Group, Broccoli, Rob. It's very funny. All right, Jaden Daniels is going to start this week, and I had one more news item. Wait, that just came in?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah. Wow. I just did not see his coming. I can't believe they're doing this, Washington. They got a lot to play for. Now, Jaden Daniels is going to start, and T. Higgins is going to play as well. All right, let's get to your emails now from Andrew. Choose one running back and one flex in PPR.
Starting point is 00:22:31 are Zach Charbonnet, Omerian Hampton, Jordan Mason, Kyle Pitts. Well, let's start with the running back. Charbonnet, Hampton, Mason. Ooh. Easy call for me if Aaron Jones doesn't play. We're going to go Mason. If not, I'm probably going to go.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I'm going to go Hampton. If Aaron Jones plays, I'm going to go Hampton. Hampton. That was not where I thought you were going with that. I'm going to start Charbonnet over Hampton. I mean, the matchup's pretty good, right? There could be opportunities. It's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Like, it's a good game script. I think I'm just going to try to walk into a Sharby touchdown there. I don't love what's there. And then we need a flex between those two, those running backs, or Kyle Pitts, Brenton, Strange, or Dalton, Kincaid? I'm going to go with a tight end here. Kyle Pitts, Brenton Stranger. I'm actually going to go with Kyle Pitts. Look at the volume with Kyle Pitts and Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah. Yeah, it's like a 26. percent target share to last two weeks. Seattle's a good matchup. I'm fine with that. Right. I'm also fine with Strange. But Kincaid is probably who I'm going with. The only thing is I didn't love what Sean McDermott said today. Oh, Greg Dorch is out.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Whoa. Geez. All right, Michael Wilson to the moon. I didn't love what Sean McDermott said about Kincaid. He said something like he'd have to see something for him to play. There's no chance I'm playing Kincaid in any lineups. If we get a, well, he's playing the greatest matchup in the world ever.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I know, but I don't think he's going to have a huge involvement in this game plan. All right, I'd like to, uh, Mike Evans is out. Mike Evans and Jaylen McMillan are out. Okay. So I expect Evans next week. Anyway, see what the reports are on Sunday about Concade. All right, Bruce needs a tight end. Joanne Johnson or Darren Waller?
Starting point is 00:24:18 I'm going Waller. I'm going to go Joanne Johnson. He's definitely safer. They're definitely safer play. I like Waller, though. Even last week, which wasn't huge, he still had some big explosive plays. Yeah, he looks pretty good out there Pick three wide receivers
Starting point is 00:24:32 So sit one We're not going to sit Devante Adams So Abuka, Debo, Samuel or Pat Bryant Abuka, Debo or Pat Bryant And we're sitting one? Yeah, I'm sitting Pat Bryant Yeah, that's easy And then Flex
Starting point is 00:24:48 Menangai, Devin Neal or Darren Waller or Juan Johnson Or Pat Bryant Menongai, Neil, Darren Waller, Pat, or Pat Brian, and who? Like, be for you, Jawan Johnson. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I think I'm going to go with, uh, Devon Neal. If catches count.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Just Evan Neal, yeah, just take the volume. If they don't, I'll go with Monongai. Actually, it wasn't bad last week, Evan Neal. The Saints are like, we have like some weird, I finally watch a little shock. Me too. I don't hate Shuck. I don't hate Shuck at all. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:25:24 No, I don't either. Just my issue is each of the last two games. He's had half of his past attempts in the fourth quarter. Yeah. They've just been very high volume. Yeah, I don't mean for fantasy. I just mean moving forward as potential. Somebody who could play in the NFL, maybe.
Starting point is 00:25:38 That's how I felt about Rattler, actually. Maybe it's all Kellynmore. Yep. From Matthew, Romo Dunzee, Terry McLaren, or Troy Franklin, PPR? McLaren. Yeah. From Luke, Lamar Jackson. I'm really excited about McLaren, by the way, for this week.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Lamar Jackson or Jordan Love. Oh, cold, Green Bay. It is going to be horrifically hard to throw a football on Sunday in Green Bay. With that said, the matchup is unbelievable for Jordan Love in the Packers Pass game. And I do kind of like the coach speak and kind of the narrative of like they're pissed off about what Ben Johnson said and they even talked about it this week at his opening presser about the Packers. With that all said, I'm still going with Lamar. What did Ben Johnson say? During his opening presser with the Bears, like, month, you know, when he first took the,
Starting point is 00:26:24 job. He's like, I love being the Packers twice a year and stuff like that. Like we always beat the Packers type stuff. I'm going to go with Lamar Jackson. I saw enough good stuff last week, granted against Cincinnati that I will
Starting point is 00:26:40 go with him because Love has not been reliable and I think they're going to run the ball. I think they're going to run the air out of the ball basically. The Packers. From Bill, start for Brian Thomas Jr., Woody Marks, Jordan Mason
Starting point is 00:26:56 Devin Neal Adonai Mitchell Kareem Hunt Wow that is tough Well If Aaron Jones is out I think Mason's definitely
Starting point is 00:27:08 The best play here Mason is the easiest one Because if he's either Number 1 on this list If Jones is out Or I'm not starting him Or you just don't start him Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:18 After that I think Adonai Mitchell I'm definitely playing Adonai Mitchell I'm definitely playing out and I'm Mitchell. Devin Neil and I would say Who are the other two? Brian Thomas Jr., Kareem Hunt, Woody Marks. I'd probably bench Hunt if Jones is out. Otherwise, if Jones is in bench, Mason.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I think I'm just going to take a shot on Woody Marks. No. I'm benching him? No. Okay, my four would be, you know about Mason. So Mason would be either one or not in it. My other four would be Adonai Mitchell, Devin Neal, Woody Marks, and I guess Kareem. I'm benching Hunt. I don't like Hunt at all. Yeah, I'll start buying Thomas
Starting point is 00:28:05 Jr. Over Hunt. Yeah. All right. Next up from Matthew. I've listened to your show for over a decade now and I've adopted the hero slash zero RB strategy. I feel like the strategy has worked for so many years, but this year has been very different. The top of It wasn't great last year either, by the way. Hero and Zero are so different, though. They are very different. The top running backs have paid off more value than receivers. The top running backs have been spectacular and of all stayed healthy.
Starting point is 00:28:32 That coincided with wide receivers being really down this year. Is this because wide receiver is so bad or because running backs are standing out so much? Do you think this is a sign of things to come for the next few years? Well, it's something that started last year for the most part. And some will point to the idea of, look, so many defenses are now adopting the Vic Fangio principle from that tree, which is a lot of zone coverage, a lot of, more importantly, just a lot of middle of the field open, which means two safeties over the top split safety looks or cover three, cover six, and less middle to field close, one safety over the top, which makes it a lot
Starting point is 00:29:05 harder to throw the football down the field. And if it's hard to throw the football down the field, a lot of the times the good quarterbacks will check the running backs or just simply just run the football into advantageous boxes with two high safety split. So I think it's a meta thing on the NFL level the question is though like it is also coinciding with a lot more committees this year so yes there are those studs at the top but if you get past the top running backs this year adam like we were looking at this week on beyond the box where like past rb 10 or 11 it gets disgusting fast like you're looking oh am i going to play kenneth walk like kenneth walker they what am i getting out of that eight points very little involvement in the past game and
Starting point is 00:29:43 almost no touchdown upside so and that's like your rb 12 or 13 in the in the rankings on a week basis. So I think it's become like a stud or dud type position running back where it probably makes sense to go hero running back, never zero. Yeah. So looking at this year versus last year, this year we have five running backs averaging more than 21 fantasy points per game, which is insane. By comparison, we have two wide receivers, J.S.N. and Rishi Rice.
Starting point is 00:30:13 We have McCaffrey, Taylor, Gibbs, Bejohn, and A. Chan, all averaging more than 20. 21 points. Now, A. Chan and Bejohn are just over, so they could fall below that. But we also have only 10 running backs who have averaged 16 or more fantasy points per game in full PPR. Just 10. Scadaboo is one of them. Last year, 16 PPR fantasy points per game at running back, there were 13. So, yeah, it is a much different landscape right now because there are so many committees, and it's really hurting the position.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I would still go here to RB. The wide receiver position being disappointing is interesting. It's so many busts with Jefferson, Nico being a bus, and not even that big of a bus. Injuries with neighbors. Brian Thomas Jr. is one of the biggest busts in fantasy. I don't know if it's a trend, but what you said is really interesting. That's a good note. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:05 How about a question from Paul? Start one, non-PPR. T. Higgins, Ameca, Abuka, Terry McLaren, Devin. Neil and Alec Pierce Hey say that again Higgins at Buka McClellan Pierce and this is start one in non-PPR
Starting point is 00:31:26 Ooh I think I'm sticking with my boy McLaren big McLaren week coming I'm in on it I'm gonna go Higgins I don't love the weather I think it's gonna be one of the biggest storylines on Sunday is how much snow are we getting there but as of now I'm going Higgins from Johnny
Starting point is 00:31:41 start one wide receiver and one flex Abuka or McConkey Oh Do we do we What's our latest on On Herbert? We're expecting him to play
Starting point is 00:31:56 I know but it's just like I'm a little As all week right I'm a little skeptical I know It's expecting him to play But there's like no updates on it If it's Trey Lance
Starting point is 00:32:06 That's a nightmare if you're starting McConkey But I don't I'd probably go Abuka I guess I can go I probably go a book anyway I'm not a big fan of it Buga right now fantasy in what i've seen i'm not him just the role and just everything with that offense i love
Starting point is 00:32:21 if it is herbert if we know it's herbert i guess i'd go mccankey same we don't know that definitely abuka and then we need a flex between you won't know that either we might between the other wide receiver dandre swift and kyle monongay ugh and this is pbr full i'm not sure I think he said full PPR, maybe not. If it's PPR, I think you do have to just go with the two receivers. I don't, I just like, I'm not expecting this massive game from Swift and a guy like last week, but then again, we could be at a point where this bears combination of how well their interior offensive line is playing with Dahlman and the
Starting point is 00:33:06 additions they made, plus Ben Johnson just genius scheming in the run game, where no run defense can stop them because Philly was a great run defense. and should have been able to stop them. I don't know if we're at that point. I think Green Bay will have answers in the run game. That's how I would lean in this one. Green Bay 6-na point favorite. So I think I bench both the running backs if it's PPR.
Starting point is 00:33:25 That's fair. I don't think there's an obvious answer here. All right, this one is from Tim. He says, I think Dan has somehow gotten away with this for too long. Uh-oh. But he calls espresso ex-expresso. I don't know why I do that. He really emphasizes the X.
Starting point is 00:33:39 It feels like something that Dan would get extremely mad at someone else for. and I find it very hypocritical that he mispronounces it. I have also considered putting butter in my coffee just to try it out, but I can't get over how gross it is. I know he's going to respond to that by saying, you can't just put any butter in your coffee. It specifically has to be Kerry Gold Butter. He's right.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah, he, mean, he nailed me for the most part. I don't know. Am I someone who gets mad at how people pronounce things? Are you a supposedly guy? Because supposedly does drive me crazy. No, no, no, no, no. First of all, I got to change espresso. I think just idiotically my whole life,
Starting point is 00:34:13 I maybe thought it was espresso, but I guess it's obviously espresso, espresso. But I also don't like saying espresso. It just gets me to like that. Like, eh, we got espresso. You know what I mean? I don't know what that is. It's kind of just like a barcelona. You know, like you got to say it like that kind of thing. Bartholona, yeah. Yeah, but I don't know. I probably just offended a lot of people with that thing. But let me just go back on this and say, I don't think I'm hypocritical because I don't get on people for their lack of pronounce. I just always say, like, I just always say, Like, do we have to call him Bijan when he, like, said himself, I don't mind if you call me Bijan, that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:48 But you can pronounce it how you want. Okay. This one is from Devon in a tiny. As far as the butter goes, I'm off the butter, by the way. I'm back to just full black coffee because I have to keep the, I'm trying to do the intermittent fasting again since I just put on eight pounds of disgusting pure fat over the, yeah, it's bad. I played my brother.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I told you. I played my brother last weekend. He's starting to get good at tennis. And I don't want to ever lose a set to him ever in my life. And he got first set. I won six, two, just like against you. Second set, I'm completely out of breath. It's like five, four.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I'm like dying in the game. And I know, luckily I won that game. If I didn't win that game, I'm losing that set. Basically a repeat of what happened against you. I have no energy. All right, here we get some Devon. It says, Dear Clubber, Yvonne, Tommy, and Mason. I know what that is.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Dan doesn't. PPR scoring. Hold on, hold on. Clubber Lang. I know the name. I have no idea what it's from. Rocky 3. It's like the name.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Oh, that's Rocky 3. All right. PPR scoring is an abomination and should never have become the industry standard. I'm happy to have heard some point per first down talk this year, although rather limited. It'd be awesome if you guys use your influence over the community to push for an end to PPR and the adoption of point per first down as the new industry standard. Make points matter again. I love this. I really love this take. I've talked about this with Dave, actually.
Starting point is 00:36:05 He's not on the show anymore. He was on earlier. Like two or three weeks ago, we talked about trying to figure out a way to get this moving, get some momentum. for it. I don't know if we're ever going to be able to change it. There's a lot of things I'd like to change about fantasy for the most part. Like, I think all league should be auctions, but I know people aren't at the time. I think all league should be, uh, um, apex scoring, which means you play your scheduled matchup each week. And then the top six teams get a win and the bottom six teams get a loss. So you can go one on one, two and oh, and two. And it's a much fairer way to play
Starting point is 00:36:33 fantasy. But this is definitely, in my mind, one of the better ways to alter the scoring, right? You get points for first down. And you could just do, people say like, oh, but won't that be fair to quarterbacks. You could just do it just like you do for passing yards versus rushing and receiving yards, right? Passing yards are a quarter of a point of a rushing and receiving yard. Same thing. A first down for a running back or receiver could be one and a first down, a first down, a thrown first down. Oh, well, yeah, I don't really know. Is there that big of a difference between first downs and catches? What do you mean? Like, if a receiver has a hundred catches, how many first downs do you think? Obviously, not going to have a hundred first
Starting point is 00:37:12 downs, but how big is the difference? Like, I kind of feel like point per first down is something... Too good for receivers? Is something in between half and full PPR? Like, if you had no PPR, but you did point per first down, for receivers, I'm thinking it's probably... Let me see how many first downs these guys have. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I like the idea of, like, changing rules and, like, and just changing scoring rules, I should say, and having not all leagues be the same person. But if we're looking for a standard, yeah, go ahead. First downs. Just remember this. Jackson Smith and Jigba, Puka Nakua, Jemar Chase, and St. Brown. They all have more than, they have 81 to 86 catches.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Okay. Play result, first down. Let's see how many first downs they have. They have, let's see, JSN has 59, Puka has 51, Jamar Chase has 48, St. Brown has 47. Yeah, so about half. Yeah, for some, it could be a little higher than half. Essentially just half PPR.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah, I would just do half PPR personally. No, but that's not right though, Adam. The point is not to just do half PPR. The point is like to reward the people who are actually doing good things on the football. Catching a ball is a good thing. No, that's the whole point my people hate PPR. Haven't you seen Ian Harditz do his thing every week where he shows like this was earned, like a guy runs for 10 hard yards and he gets one point, but guy catches some stupid pass and like falls down and gets a half a point. Yeah, that's why I like half people you are.
Starting point is 00:38:44 All right, we got to go. He says, by the way, Devin says, the proper Rocky rankings are Rocky 1, 4, Rocky Balboa, 3, 2, 5. This is really wrong, really wrong. It is 1, 2, 4, 3, Balboa 5. Okay, this is from Chris. You watch all of those? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Have I watched or do you need to? I'm definitely not watching all of those. Don't watch Rocky Five is an abomination. Rocky 5 is the PPR of Rockies. Chris says, I keep hearing your love for the show The Shield. I watched it and it's fine. Solid B-plus, ranked around 50 on some of the best shows of all-time rankings. Whereas The Wire is top five on some of those rankings, and you couldn't get through it.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Just another level of writing, acting, and storytelling. Give it another shot. Actually, this is an interesting take because it really puts me to the test here because the Wire is the greatest show of all time. I've made that clear. not no show like the wire every single conversation every single ounce of dialogue matters like the wire it's and is amazing to listen to and then they have you know the schools the streets it's everything the politicians with that said i hate this take about the shield the shield is
Starting point is 00:39:57 an easy top 15 for me and maybe top 10 it's pushing on top 10 um the shield was amazing the ending was awesome yeah it was then it was awesome all right the question the fantasy question was after tasting taking brief can i ask you this real quick before we do that have you you ever seen the always sunny impression of the shield no so on an episode oh wait i'm sorry i have 15 minutes i have to leave so okay just check that out i will see type in always sunny's shield impression it's so good after taking breese hall and garrett wilson in the top 10 last year and gentie and bowers in the top 15ish this year do we have to take a closer look at bad offenses ability to support multiple top 20 players yeah we've said that for a while on this show 100% absolutely
Starting point is 00:40:39 But then again, like Bowers was part of a horrible offense last year. Right, but both of them. It's hard for both of them to come through. We're going to take a break, and we'll be right back with fantasy cops after this. Canada's Wonderland is bringing the holiday magic this season with Winterfest on Select Nights, now through January 3rd. Step into a winter wonderland filled with millions of dazzling lights, festive shows, rides, and holiday treats. Plus, Coca-Cola is back with Canada. Kindest Community, celebrating Acts of Kindness nationwide with a chance at 100,000 donation for
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Starting point is 00:41:41 This one is from Ethan, the commissioner of a 12-team PPR Friends League. All right, that's Ethan. Needs our ruling. 15 minutes before our trade deadline, one manager, Kaysen, reached out to another. Pete, asking him to team up against me. They completed a trade that didn't look terrible on the surface,
Starting point is 00:42:02 so I let it go through. The next day on Thanksgiving, Pete comes clean. He admits the trade was collusion. and sends me the full text thread, which clearly shows Kaysen initiated it, and I immediately reversed the trade. Here's the dilemma. I've always believed that collusion equals automatic playoff ban.
Starting point is 00:42:21 However, Pete owned up to his mistake. Both teams are basically locked into the playoffs already and have arguably the second and third best teams. Meanwhile, I'm 10 and 2, and I don't want it to look like I'm banning good teams just to help myself. So what's fair punishment? Do I ban both from the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Does Pete deserve leniency for admitting it? And should Kaysen be removed from the league next season? Let me read you the text, Dan. Oh, yeah, here we go. Because maybe this wasn't collusion. Maybe it wasn't. Okay, so let's read the- What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:42:49 I thought he owned up and admitted he muted. I'm going to read you the text. I want you to tell me if you think this is. So this is Kaysen emailing, who was it? What was his name? Pete, Pete. Okay. Kaysen says, quote, let's collude so Ethan doesn't win fantasy.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Literally everyone is just playing for a second. And then Pete responds, and Kaysen says, I'm just looking at Ethan's team and he has wide receiver 1, 2, 3 this week, QB1, tight end 2, and two good running backs. I don't know how Ethan's team loses again unless someone gets injured. I honestly want to collude so that he doesn't win. Derek Henry could be who you need. What the heck? I think this is collusion.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'm so confused about everything going on here. Is this a group of, I assume this is a group of friends. It feels like a friend's league, not like a paid online league. And like, they like are openly saying we're colluding. Do they know collusion is wrong? Yeah, they're doing it anyway. But Kaysen did not think that Pete was going to sell him like, you know, to sell him out like that and blow his cover. They thought he was going to get away with it.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Oh, I see. Pete was like Pete was the one who came clean. Yeah, Pete came clean. Like Pete, the guilt got to Pete. Yeah, you know that. The guilt always gets to people. I've never thought about, I've never been in a league with collusion. So I've never, thankfully, in any of my home leagues, the ones I manage.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I'm confused as to what I would do if collusion happened. Like, he's talking about a playoff band. Like, I know what I do next year. Like, I have a strict no collusion policy. Like, once a cheater, always a cheater. Once a colluder, always cluel. They're both out of my league. They're banned for life.
Starting point is 00:44:30 They may not even be in the friend group after this. We'll see. We'll see what they can offer to get back in my good graces. But as far as the rest of the season goes, I don't, would you ban them from the playoffs? Because then what do you do? You manually put in the like seven, eight seeds or whatever. Like, I don't even know how you do that. I think, I think Kaysen has to be banned from the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I think they both do. You don't think the other, they both have to. Well, as far as they're both just as guilty to me. Just because one came clean doesn't make him, that doesn't make him like. I would ban them from the playoffs, but not remove them from the league because this is a friend. group. What? You would not remove them from the league? It's not worth, it's not worth losing your friendship over. What do you, it's not about losing a friendship because you kick somebody out. You say, look, I, you alluded, you cheated, and that's it. I mean, I sort of agree with you,
Starting point is 00:45:19 but it's also fun to play fantasy football against your friends, right? And if it is going to jeopardize your friendship, it's not worth it. Okay, would it be fun if I got to play Madden with you, Adam, but I was on easy mode and you were on hard mode and I rigged it so you were on hard? Is that fun for you? It's just a matter of how seriously they want to. to take it. I think there are grounds for removal. Regardless how serious you want to take it. It's a game that you're trying to play to have fun and win. It's not fun when one person has a cheating advantage. I get it. They cheated and there's grounds for removal. But in real life, it's a lot easier for us who have no emotional
Starting point is 00:45:50 connection to this league to say, yeah, kick these guys out of league, take your two friends out of the league, than it is for the commissioner who's commissioning a friend's league to actually do that to his friends. So I think if you want to kick them out, you have basis for it. At the very least, you need to ban them from the playoffs. They don't deserve to be in. All right. I don't understand how Husky Husky says, don't kick him out. Now he knows no one will allow this to happen. There's no way the commission
Starting point is 00:46:13 will know. If you conclude and just don't admit to it, you can easily do this again. All right. This next one is from Eric. Eric. Help me settle an infamous nearly decade old dispute. If a trade is accepted when neither of the teams involved is eliminated, but by
Starting point is 00:46:29 the time the two-day review period has ended, one of them is eliminated. Should the trade go through? of course it should go through i first of all i'm going to start by saying this the two we've had a bunch of questions on this and i really frustrated me every time adam there should be this dumb two j trade review period no review period the trades in as long as there's no collusion and it's not ridiculously stupid looking you'd say the commissioner gets on and he just pushes it through i hate this i hate how some leagues have this review period for days and then we've had problems where people are like
Starting point is 00:47:01 oh the review period ran through like sunday at when the guy puts it through no you We text the commission, at least in my leagues, when I'm commission, I put it right through. Someone texts me, hey, there was a trade, check the page, and then accept, put it through, change your lineups now. Like, there's no, it should be no review period for trades. All right. So I guess it goes through. I was going to say that it does. The decision was made before he was eliminated.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I feel that. Unfortunately, I have to skip some of these. No, you can't skip cops. I have to, dude, I have to run. There you don't. I think I have more here. I'll do it for you. What do you have to do?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Just don't get lunch at that place that service is. Oh, okay. Okay, here we go. From Aaron. This happened last year, and it's still a controversy in our league. For context, the three of us have been in multiple fantasy leagues for over a decade together. Here's the situation. I made a trade offer on the sleeper platform to another manager, a longtime friend.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's a Dynasty League, and I was tanking. I offered early in the season last year, Chase Brown for Jordan Addison. That was the gist of the trade. The other manager messaged me on the app and said, he was high on Addison and thus would not accept the trade. That was that in my eyes. Trade rejected. Over eight weeks later, I wake up to a notification that the trade was accepted.
Starting point is 00:48:17 In Sleeper, the trade offer never goes away unless I physically remove it, which I didn't because I thought the offer was declined. Circumstances were wildly different where Chase Brown was ascending. I immediately texted the commissioner that this was not a valid trade offer anymore. I showed him the screenshot of the text that the owner said no. The commissioner said it was my fault for not removing the deal and refused to undo the trade.
Starting point is 00:48:39 My point of view is that there should never be a trade completed in which one manager disagrees that it's valid. The commissioner did not care said it was on me to work it out. This is less about the players and how it worked out and more about the principle of the situation.
Starting point is 00:48:51 This still causes arguments in our league over a year later. Can the fantasy cops give us a ruling what should have happened here? So again, if you missed it, if you missed it, sorry. He makes a trade offer. Guy says no.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I guess he didn't click reject, but he says no. Eight weeks later, it was still there. He accepted the trade. What do you think? So this is a very interesting one. I can see why this is still getting debated in your league and leading to arguments because it's the first fantasy cops we've ever gotten where I don't feel very strongly on either side. Oh, I have a very strong opinion on this. Very. Okay, maybe you weigh in first and then I'll and I'll see where I'm at. No way. No way in heck, if I were the commissioner, would I let that trade go through? If that manager said, I forgot, I left. it there, and it was already rejected eight weeks ago? No chance. Fantasy is supposed to be fun. Don't be such a bee buster. Like, this guy didn't want to make the trade. He forgot to take it down. Give me a break. Who cares? Reject the trade. Obviously, one manager didn't want to do it,
Starting point is 00:49:51 and it wasn't like immediate buyer's remorse. He forgot about it. It was eight weeks ago. No chance would I let this trade happen, not a chance. I think I would tend to lean toward that while at the same time acknowledging, how do you play in fantasy and leave a trade up there? When you go and check your team page, you should be seeing every day that you have this trade proposal still pending. I don't know about on sleeper. I mean, I've never made a trade offer on sleeper, so I don't know. Says it under transactions. I'm pretty sure on that app. Like I just, and if you're using free agency during the year for the next like eight weeks, you should be seeing this. And so I almost wonder if like he left it up there on purpose because he wanted to accept it. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:50:32 No, I don't buy that. And not at the time, obviously, not after the eight weeks or whatever. Not Aaron. Aaron would never do something like that. I just don't, like, I'm with you. I think you're right. I definitely lean on your side. But it's, it's not great from the guy who just leaves the trade up.
Starting point is 00:50:46 All right. Let's get to some Apple podcast questions here. This one is from. Also, this is a good point by Aaron Johnson. Like, that's a slippery slope by you, Adam. Like, if you just said, like, it's now like, it's your word versus his. Like, his work just be, I don't want that. But he made of, you know what I'm.
Starting point is 00:51:02 He had a text message of the guy saying, I don't want to do it. And then eight weeks later, it was done. Eight weeks? I mean, it was three days to be one thing, but eight weeks? And even in three days, I might be forgiving. But eight weeks for sure. All right. We need, from Brad, we need a running back and a flex, half PPR.
Starting point is 00:51:21 So the running back is going to be Bam Knight, Woody Marks, Chris Rodriguez, or Devin Neal. I'm going with Rodriguez. And I made my case earlier. I really liked what I saw on tape this past week from Washington's run game, the blocking, the scheme, and then you add Jaden Daniels to the mix, and there's a lot more scoring opportunities. I know he doesn't catch passes, but I don't care. All right, I'm fine with that. I think I might go Bam Knight, but if DeMarcato plays, I probably wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But, all right, we need a flex. So Jefferson, Khalil Shakir, I'm not even going to consider the other guy. It's going to be one of those two for me. I'll just throw Jefferson in there. The matchup's good enough. Hopefully, JJ can do something. I agree. All right, this one is from.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Kyle, 10 and 3, I'm locked into the two seed. Is it bad juju to purposely lose so I can have a better matchup in the first round of the playoffs? Yeah, this is interesting. I'm in the similar spot in one of my leagues this week and I'm debating what I want to do. I've never actually done this before, Adam, but looking ahead, falling from, well, it's so, no, mine is even different. Mine is, I'm playing the guy who's the six seed right now, Adam, and the seven seed behind
Starting point is 00:52:30 him is the better team. And so if I beat this six seat, the current six seat, I move up to the three and then I have to play the current seven who moves into the six. And I'm debating if I want to throw my matchup. I've never done it before. I personally don't think it's wrong at all. I think it's your strategy. To me, it's strategy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I equate this to a team benching their starters in week 18. It's your team. You've earned this right with a good regular season. You can do what you want. And those teams that bench their starters in week 18, well, they could really be messes. up to playoff picture for other teams in the NFL, right? By letting this team have a free win, basically. Yeah, strategy.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Yeah. All right. Let's see. This is from T. Money. Did you hear about the six scientists that lost their lives in California? They were trying to cross a crab and a cheetah. Things went sideways quickly. I'm trying to understand that one
Starting point is 00:53:31 They're trying to cross a crab and a cheetah Things went sideways quickly What is the I don't get Why is the things going sideways Crabs walk sideways And cheetahs are very fast All right Wow that's bad
Starting point is 00:53:47 Let's get some Spotify questions here Oh I said I'll rate every single dad joke kind of 1 to 10 scale. That's 2.3, but maybe just because I'm too stupid to understand it. Yeah, I think so. Pick 2. Justin Jefferson, D.K. Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:54:01 People think that was funny. This is half BPR. So Justin Jefferson, D.K. Metcalf, Brian Thomas, Jr. He's that clever, but not funny. D.K. Metcalf, Brian Thomas, Jr. Or who? Jefferson. Pick two. Ugh. Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I'll go Metcalf. And Metcalf, yeah. Crimson Elite says, Am I the only psycho that's really not that worried about Lamar? I'm a little worried. He's not running. He doesn't want to run, it seems. And they just admitted that he's dealing with all these nagging injuries.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'm more concerned with the passing right now in the way that he's seeing the field. And this whole Todd Monkin offense that was so efficient for him throughout his time with Monken and now just seems totally off. The timing is off. Everything looks bad there. All right, this is Amanda. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:54:57 There was no good reason for the Bengals defense to be able to stop Lamar last week. There's no reason they would take a step forward. But they didn't stop him. You know, Isaiah Light, they fumbled at the goal line. Safe Flowers had a long touchdown callback. DeVontes Walker dropped two deep balls. You know, he had point.
Starting point is 00:55:13 He threw an interception in the red zone. Okay. Sutton or Gentie? Oh, man. I'm going to go. sudden. I don't even love that, though. At least Gentie.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Like, Gentie gets a bunch of dump downs, which is nice for his fantasy value, even though I just have zero faith at all in their offensive line. All right. This is from Amanda. Yes. Who are you flexing?
Starting point is 00:55:38 I have to go, Dan, sorry. Flowers, Pierce, Metcalf, Quentin Johnston, Blake Corum. Flowers, Alec Pierce, Metcalf, Johnston, Corum. Who are you flexing? It's either Pierce or, or no, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:55:52 Metcalf or Flowers? Flowers, I guess. Probably go flowers, but I think Pierce is really interesting. The other guys suck. All right. This is from Ace.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Aaron Jones, if he plays, or Zach Charbonnet, PPR? Again, I'm rolling Sharbs. I like the game script. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I could see that. You need a touchdown because he's awful when he doesn't score. So I would I don't know with Jones, but I could see. Jones doesn't do anything anyway, though. Sam Darnold or Jaden Daniels?
Starting point is 00:56:28 Jaden. Yeah, Jaden, Daniels. And from from Carlos, thank you for voting for us, Carlos. Standard scoring, Daniel Jones or Jacoby Reset. We're going to go Brissette.
Starting point is 00:56:41 We need a wide receiver and a flex. Okay, start two wide receivers. A.J. Brown, Abuka, Adunzei, McLaurin. Pick two in standard. Brown, McLaurin. I'm going to go Brown and... Abuka...
Starting point is 00:56:58 Brown and... Okay, fine, McLaurin. And then a flex, Charbonnet... Oh, OLAV. OLAVe is number two. I'm sorry. It's Brown, Olave, and then the flex is going to be
Starting point is 00:57:09 Abuka, O'Dunze, McLaren, or Charbonne. You're going to go McLaren still? Yeah. All right, that's fine. McLaren with Jaden Daniels. Sign me up. All right. And we'll finish with some...
Starting point is 00:57:21 YouTube comments for three minutes. Flex, Hampton, Waddle, Devante Smith. No PBR, it looks like. Oh, shout out, by the way, for Matt McCormick says he loves Beyond the Box Score. Shout out to the Beyond the Box Score show.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You guys can find that on the YouTube feed and on its own Spotify and iTunes. Please like, subscribe, and rate. Now that that plug has been delivered, I will go with Waddle. Charbonnet or Woody Marks? Like, again, I'm just going to shab it up and hope for the game script touchdown.
Starting point is 00:58:00 All right. Such a good game script. I'm going to go Marks if catches, even though he doesn't catch the ball. He looks so hurt from Marks to me. Like, looks just gutting, gutting through the year. Interesting. Pick Kirk Cousins or Gino Smith.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Cousins. Gino against the Raiders, no thank you. You mean Gino against the Chargers, but yeah. No. Gino is facing the Raiders. I mean, the Broncos, the Broncos. Oh, the Broncos, yeah, we both are off on that.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Yeah, no, Gino against the Broncos, no way. Why did I think the Chargers are playing the Raiders this week? They're not. Chargers Monday night against the Eagles. Eagles, that's what it is. It's bad either way. Sorry, that was not for you. And then pick two, Gainwell, Harvey, Bam, and a Chargers running back.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Harvey for sure. Yeah. Lock that one in. BAM, I guess. I'll probably go with Hampton. I am not going Hampton this week. Start. One running back, one flex, PPR.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Judkins, Chase Brown, Bucky. Ooh, this is a good one. Finally, good players. Chase Brown, Bucky Irving, Waddle, and Judkins. I'm going Chase Brown and Irving. Same. Really enthused by what I saw from Bucky and Chase Brown's the lock of these four.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Trevor Lawrence or Lamar Jackson Lawrence looked as good as he's looked since Liam Cohen got him last week and I think they might be starting to figure out the route concepts that work for his skill set as a thorough and by that I mean those intermediate deep or in breaking routes that's the ones he can throw on those line drive lines
Starting point is 00:59:39 which I like so yeah I'm going to go with Trevor Lawrence and I take a lot of offense to Jarhead you're into a finishing expert and never knows I know the matchups I got one matchup wrong and you're going off on me sometimes i got to dress the haters at him i really do yeah yeah i would go lamar jackson mccloren or jefferson um mclaren for me uh dalton schultzer lovelin oh here comes the end he thinks we're the biggest derrick henry haters on the show are if you guys do you guys hate
Starting point is 01:00:07 on him i'm a few podcasts behind no i don't think so no i don't think we hate on henry on this show dalton shultz or colson lovelin shultz uh shultz uh shultz Yeah, of course. Let's get a good one here to end the show. Jaden Higgins or Luther Burden if Roma Dunzee doesn't play. I'd still go Higgins. Actually, no, I'd be fine with a burden. Yeah, I'd lean burden.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I don't, that Chief's game, Arrowhead Sunday night, it is going to be cold. It is going to be hard to throw the football there. And Spag is just going to play Pressman the whole time. I'm not excited about Stroud in that matchup. All right, we'll finish this. What did the constipated curmudgeon say? I don't take crap.
Starting point is 01:00:52 All right, that's pretty good. Thank you, everybody, for watching and listening. Have a wonderful weekend. We will speak to you on Sunday at 11 a.m. Eastern live for almost two hours answering your starts and questions. Go to the 64.com and vote and avoid bugs on your lettuce. Talk to you tomorrow. Thank you.

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