Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag, Auction Talk, Fantasy Cops! (08/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Starting point is 00:01:39 I had no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Action-packed mailbag-o-rama here on Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Welcome, everybody.

Starting point is 00:02:03 Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, and Dan Federer here on Friday. You're hearing it on Saturday. We welcome you to our mailbag. Hello, Dan. How are you doing there? Good, Adam. More of a Dan Nadal. I don't know if you knew this, but I'm a Lexi tennis player. I'm ambidextrous. Yeah, you're about to play a Lexi. I'm ambidextrous. I play football on my right. I shoot a basketball on my right. I write with myxtrous. Yeah, you're about to play a lecture. I'm ambidextrous. I play football on my right. I shoot a basketball on my right. I write with my left hand. I eat with my right hand.

Starting point is 00:02:28 I'm a weird, weird, weird guy when it comes to the things I do with my hands. That did not sound good. Are you kidding me? In the middle of that, I realized what I was doing. Either way, as I try to escape that embarrassment. Let's go. I've got good news and I've got bad news for you, Adam. Which would you prefer first?

Starting point is 00:02:49 I prefer some emails first. Then we'll get to our good news and bad news. And I got a bone to pick with Jamie. So let's keep all that in mind. Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com is our email address. That is the letter I, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We've got your emails. We've got your Apple podcast questions,

Starting point is 00:03:02 your draft-a-thon questions, your YouTube questions, the fantasy cops. We've got some good, good, your draft-a-thon questions, your YouTube questions, the fantasy cops. We've got some good, good fantasy cops today. And as promised, auction talk. We will have auction strategies for you. Emails part one from Drew. I have the ninth pick in two of my drafts, 12-team half PPR.

Starting point is 00:03:18 Are you guys out on Justin Jefferson due to the quarterback situation? Do you prefer Garrett Wilson or do you still like Justin Jefferson? Jefferson the quarterback situation. Do you prefer Garrett Wilson or do you still like Justin Jefferson? Jefferson for me still. I think we have a few things here that are interesting just because we were talking about this off

Starting point is 00:03:35 camera before the show started, before Dan was talking about his hands. There's going to be some bad quarterback play for some pretty elite wide receivers, right? You got Jefferson and Sam Donald potentially. You got Malik Nabors and Daniel Jones. I'm sure there's one or two that I'm missing, you know, of the higher end variety. But you got to buy into, in case of the two receivers, their talent level.

Starting point is 00:04:00 In the case of Jeffersonerson his system is fantastic and i understand that this is the thing that that sort of drives me crazy about the jefferson thing for anybody who was drafting him fourth overall fifth overall sixth overall before the mccarthy injury did you guys really think that mccarthy jj mccarthy as a rookie was going to come in all the sudden solve every problem like yes he should be better than Darnold. He should in theory. I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:04:29 As a rookie, I agree. I think that's a great point, Jamie. I don't know. I don't think that was anywhere near enough to move the needle as it seemingly has from a field standpoint, as weird as that sounds.

Starting point is 00:04:39 Cause going into my next comment, I feel more comfortable if Nick Mones is that quarterback over Sam Darnold, not for the sake of the Vikings franchise. Maybe Darnold, I guess, can help them win more games if he somehow fixes all of his issues. But for just for Justin Jefferson, yes, I do. I will say this. Justin Jefferson was quarterback proof last year and the numbers are absurd. So I'm not going to move him behind Garrett Wilson. Um, but the point remains like your point is the one that needs to be rung home here. Like KJ McCarthy's injury does not move the needle and should not move

Starting point is 00:05:09 needle. He probably wasn't going to play this year, regardless of if Darnold faltered, maybe he would have played, but even then he would have had some similar issues with Darnold when it comes to keeping the offense on time on schedule, dealing with pressure. All right. So Justin Jefferson, overall, Jamie, he's eight for you. Nine. Sorry. One, two, three, four, six.

Starting point is 00:05:29 Oh, he's six. OK, still six. I think he's nine for Heath behind A.J. Brown. Thanks for asking me. He'd be eight for me. Where is he for you? Nine. Behind A.J. Brown? Behind. No, I'm sorry. Eight. Sorry. Eight. OK, this is why I didn't ask you. This is from Charles. Yahoo just added Taysom Hill as a tight end.

Starting point is 00:05:49 Where would you guys rank him? He will be probably tight end 15. I'm looking right now. Six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13 for me. And I'm high on him. I would love him as my $1 tight end at the end of my auctions. Taysom Hill. Okay, so Taysom Hill or Pat Fryermuth?

Starting point is 00:06:10 Fryer by one spot for me. Fryermuth. Taysom Hill. That's contingent on a non-IU trade. Dalton Schultz or Taysom Hill? Taysom for me. Taysom. All right, this one is from Jeff.

Starting point is 00:06:21 What are your thoughts on the appropriate amount of time prior to the draft for the draft order to be released? Some people want an hour before. Some people want a lot of time to prep. Dan, what do you think is the appropriate amount of money. Uh, I would say I like the 30 minute version. I don't want the time to prepare. I like to people. Snakes are already. So, so kind of cut and dry as is let's add a little bit of something to it, please. By not giving everyone time to just prep out the board and know exactly

Starting point is 00:06:56 what's going to happen. As someone who works for a content site, I would like it to be released ahead of time, especially when we're going to do a final version of our pick by pick series next week. I have to write another article. Two articles? Two articles, baby. Come on down, Adam. Yes. I think for people

Starting point is 00:07:12 like us who draft all the time, we don't care when it comes out, but for people who are just doing one draft a year, you should give them advance notice. You should let them prepare. Let them read and listen to whatever they want to listen to and figure out how to build their team from their spot. Comment prepare, let them read and listen to whatever they want to listen to and figure out, you know, how to, how to build their team from their spot comment from the chat. Oh, there it is. Fun fact. Did Dan lose some weight or is he wearing slightly larger t-shirts?

Starting point is 00:07:36 Uh, I lost about eight pounds in the last month and a half, two months. Nice. Good for you. No, I would never do that. I don't need that type of stuff to lose weight. I simply have been intermittent fasting and walking a lot on golf courses. So this is how I lost weight. It's simply not playing enough tennis, though. Quick fun fact that will that will be interesting to fantasy football drafters going into this weekend. We just put an article on the site and it's five guys from the FFT team.

Starting point is 00:08:04 The two you're looking at right now, Adam and Jamie Heath, Dave and Jacob Gibbs. I asked them to give me a quick blurb on their most drafted players so far this draft season. Not a single person had the same player. I found that unbelievably interesting how that could even be possible. And I went back and I double checked and no one had. So go check that article. It's out on the site. I think it's a very great article to read. There's a lot of great content that came out today. Jamie updated his tiers so you can get a tier base. I love using tiers for my draft day to go by because that's how you know when you need to get a receiver or a running back or a quarterback when he's last in that tier. We have content from Jacob.

Starting point is 00:08:38 10 unheld rookies looking to find the next Puka Nakua, who he called last offseason. And then this article as well, among others. So check out the site. Jamie gave 10 guys. That's amazing. I gave four. I know. Jamie was, as usual, Jamie was the most comprehensive.

Starting point is 00:08:51 And not a single repeat. That's insane. You're right. I can't believe you didn't have a joke there about me loving Jamie there, agreeing with Jamie. Well, I mean, you put him first. I thought that was obviously ridiculous. He was the first person to send it back in the email. There's no chance.

Starting point is 00:09:02 He didn't order of who was the best for me as an editor. No chance that he was the first to send them back. Yes, he was. With a blurb? With all the blurbs. No, before me, I responded immediately. You were even like, you responded to that already? Check the tape.

Starting point is 00:09:17 There's no chance. Let me check the tape. Jamie sent him his 10 before my fantastic four. Draftathon, folks. I got some things to announce. Dan's about to be so long. No, you got it in. You got it in six minutes before, Jamie.

Starting point is 00:09:29 Six minutes. But I did six more guys, so I win. Right. All right, draftathon. Our draftathon show, which is like our big event to finish off draftathon season and tell you how much money we've raised, is going to be Wednesday from 4 to 6 p.m. at youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Wednesday 4 to 6 p.m. youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday.

Starting point is 00:09:51 There is still time to bid on some terrific items. Private Zoom calls with me, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We just had a guest appearance on the show go for like $900. That was amazing. It's all going to St. Jude. All to St. Jude. We've got the match. You can bid on the match. Am I still ahead to St. Jude. All to St. Jude. We've got the match.

Starting point is 00:10:05 You can bid on the match right now. Am I still ahead of you? Nope. What? You've jumped me? I'm $10 ahead. I'm at $810 to co-manage with me. You're at $800.

Starting point is 00:10:16 Wow. Acer, no. The auction ended. No. I won by 10? Excellent. You won by what? 140?

Starting point is 00:10:25 Wait, wait, wait. I'm looking at the wrong thing. Looking at the wrong thing. I hope this auction's still open because I got a big bidder coming in at the last second. You don't have any because the auction is over. But we raised $1,610 for St. Jude. Your co-managing team with me or Dan

Starting point is 00:10:38 and whoever wins gets a pick swap, whatever we explain that. Now, what else? This is the last chance. The Podcast League spots. There are still six available on the website. whatever we explain that now, what else? This is the last chance, the podcast league spots. There are still six available on the website. This is tinyurl.com slash draftathon2024. And you will scroll down and you will hit the auction house portion. And then you're going to see, you can bid to be in the, in the podcast league. We've got, they're all about $550 right

Starting point is 00:11:02 now. We should do better than that. We can do better than that. Although if we don't, this is still an incredibly generous donation. So thank you to everyone. We're going to raise over, we're going to raise at least four grand, I think for the podcast league, but we can do better.

Starting point is 00:11:14 You've got two days left. Actually, if you're listening on Saturday, you've got one day left, tinyurl.com slash draftathon2024. Make it happen. I have a question. Oh, it hit Make it happen. I have a question. Oh, it hit the auction house. I have a question for Dan.

Starting point is 00:11:29 Yes. If you had a son, would you name him? I'm going to give you four choices for your firstborn son. Would you name him Nick, Jacob, Kelsey, or David? None of the above. No, you have to choose one. I have to pick one of these names? Nick, Jacob, Kelsey, or David.

Starting point is 00:11:47 Who's your firstborn son? I don't think, I mean, this is going to depend a lot on who would be the wife and the mother because I would just go, you know, like if she's Italian, then I'll go Nick.

Starting point is 00:11:57 Like, this is just terrible. Dan, you have a son. You need to name him. You're a single dad. Nick. Nick, okay. I want to congratulate Nick. We had four people who tied in our NFL draft contest,

Starting point is 00:12:10 and they were up for one spot in the podcast league. I told them, I'm going to make Dan choose without knowing who he's choosing. So you just put Nick in the podcast league. I feel very deceived if this Nick is not Italian. I've lived my whole life, as my best friend Steve Milano said, wanting to be Italian. Shout out, Steve Milano. I'm going to read one more email before we take a break. It's from...

Starting point is 00:12:31 Was Steve at the Giants game that you were shunned when Dan walked away? No, he wasn't there. That's a very... Nobody knows if that's true. That story was pretty fabricated on Adam's end. Yeah, you had a pretty good time talking to my brother, okay? And then he got bored and he left me.

Starting point is 00:12:48 That's not it. That sounds like a you problem, Adam. Was Steve at the Yankees game that you were supposed to take out? He was the guy who went to the Yankees game. And he got the baseball card, huh? And he got the baseball card. Wow. That's like a $3,000 to $5,000 baseball card.

Starting point is 00:13:00 I think you're something crazy. All right. One more question here from Cameron. Dear Mr. Bonilla, Mr. Witt Jr., and Mr. Boucher. Bobbies. Yeah, good. Bang. I like this quick question very much.

Starting point is 00:13:15 I bet you do because it's a 17-team guillotine league, half PPR, no trades allowed. Can I just tell you something before you continue? Every time you read a guillotine email, they're all 17 teams. Okay, yeah, I know. But I'm just giving this for other people who don't play guillotine leagues. Gotcha. One flex, two receivers, three bench spots. It's an auction league.

Starting point is 00:13:39 How would you recommend approaching this? It's only three bench spots, so keep that in mind. I've never heard of auction guillotine. Yeah, auction guillotine. I think for sure it's $1 bench players. I'll start with that in a guillotine because you're going to be trading out your bench anyway. Now, as far as what else I would do, I'd probably go super, super studs and duds here and just try to get a phenomenal few players and then be very aggressive in free agency early on

Starting point is 00:14:03 and try to build a super team. Okay, so Dan would lose in guillotine leagues rather quickly um you want to be as vanilla as you possibly can early because the free agent pool you just want to get round to round around and you don't want to take like high variance players because that didn't say high variance players said the opposite you said studs and does yes studs a bunch of studs that are low variance they're going to produce um yeah i don't know if you want to get a because you're going to be spending i i want to stay in the middle in the beginning just like i'll fill my middle out in free agency early is my guess yeah i guess that's fair i i guess it's fair. Um, and, and auction does change a little bit. Um, like I, I think you, uh, I think you want to, you want to be safe. Like you want to, you want to get through the first three weeks because exactly what Dan said about the, uh, the

Starting point is 00:14:55 free agent pool, you know, when these teams get, get cut because of injuries or stuff like that, like you don't want to take players that have a lot of risk attached to them. So don't invest heavily in rookies. Don't invest heavily in players that have a lot of risk attached to them. So don't invest heavily in rookies. Don't invest heavily in players that are going to be injury prone. I'm trying to think. I took Tua as like the ninth or tenth. Like I took him ahead of Dak because Dak's early schedule is awful. And obviously it goes without saying, but don't buy guys who are injured right now

Starting point is 00:15:18 or guys who are coming back later. Correct. Like another redraft, I would take Keon Coleman. In this, I had the Keon Coleman in this. I had the choice of Coleman or Khalil Shakir. I took Shakir. Guys to me like Jonathan Brooks and Nick Chubb just don't even spend it. Even a dollar on those guys. Correct. Unless you, unless you know you're at a point where they're backups.

Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. Right. Right. Right. All right. Uh, thank you for that. We're going to take a break, but first I'm going to tell you about bed MGM because this is the time baby. If you haven't signed up for bed MGM yet, use the bonus code FANTASY. You are going to get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM. Here's what you do. Download the BetMGM app and sign up using bonus code FANTASY. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. You will receive up to $1,500 in bonus bets if your bet loses. Just make sure you use the bonus code FANTASY when you sign up on BetMGM. We'll be right back on FFT. It's the season for new styles and you love to shop for jackets and boots. So when you do, always make sure you get cash back

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Starting point is 00:16:54 but let's see how we do here. This is from Chris, and he says, I've heard a lot of talk about that chunk of running backs from 15-ish to 30-ish and how there's quite a bit of value with lots of ambiguous backfields and committees.

Starting point is 00:17:09 So I'm going to pause the question here. It's not 15 to 30. It's probably like 19 and beyond. Cause I think, I think 15, 16, 17 or 16, 17,

Starting point is 00:17:20 18 is the Camara mix and Walker group. It's it's after that. Am I wrong? Am I too high? I'm looking right now. Three. It's after that. Am I wrong? Am I too high? I'm looking right now. Three. It's around 16. 17, yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah, it's around 18. Yeah, all right. No, you're right, actually. I think it's around 20. No, it's 18. It's 18 with Najee Harris. What about David Montgomery, Walker, Rashad White, Alvin Kamara? No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:17:42 I don't know what you're looking at. Those guys are above that, I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it starts at 18 and then after that. Okay. Okay, so that group of running backs. Is this really so different from previous years where we decried the dead zone RB?

Starting point is 00:17:55 How does it relate to the perceived value of the same range of wide receiver? It's shaping up to be an interesting year in fantasy. I think it's different, so I'll start there. I think it's different because I don'll start there. I think it's different because I don't really consider this to ever be the dead zone of running backs. The dead zone of running backs for me was, and it's not really there anymore these days, but it used to be rounds three through five, three through six, where you're passing on real receivers for guys

Starting point is 00:18:18 like Mike Davis, who look like they're going to have a big role or miles Gaskin, but they're not. And you're only betting on them for volume. To me, that guy is Amir white this year and Rashad Ramondre Stevenson, who are a little bit higher in this regard, but maybe around this range. But the difference is when you're betting on these ambiguous backfields, you're hoping to bet on a team that's going to have success in their run game. The bangles could be a really good offense. Top six, top seven, chase Brown, Zach Moss, the Steelers have Arthur Smith, who knows how to design a run game and a run offense, Najee Harris, Jalen Warren, those types of teams. It's different than like, oh, we're taking a Mike Davis just because we expect he's going to get 350 touches when really in reality, he's not good enough to hold that kind of role.

Starting point is 00:18:58 I think that the point though, isn't, and I don't know if dan fully addressed it the the dead zone part is that we were taking these guys in years past in rounds three and four and that was the problem right right so while you may not have been dan i think the okay adp would tell us that that's where those guys were typically going is running backs i don't know this entire group clearly, but you know, 15 through 24 ish would be what the dead zone is. And that's kind of what the problem was always with it is that you were passing up these receivers and hoping that you would get, you know, receiver 15, 16 through 25, essentially in rounds five, six, and seven. Now it's flipped. You know, now we're seeing those receivers go ahead of these running backs. And that's, I think the difference. Good point. And the market has corrected itself in that regard, or at least in my five, six, and seven. Now it's flipped. Now we're seeing those receivers go ahead of these running backs, and that's, I think, the difference.

Starting point is 00:19:46 Good point. And the market has corrected itself in that regard, or at least in my mind, the market has corrected itself, to which point, once it does, you have to adjust to the new reality of the market,

Starting point is 00:19:53 in which case these guys could ultimately be better value since they're going later now. We have certainly said, once you get past Kamara, Mixon, A-Chan, Walker, that group, you don't want to... A-C't want to yeah i'm looking at our consensus rankings oh okay you don't want to be too reliant on naji white montgomery giovante stevenson pollard

Starting point is 00:20:18 connor swift aaron jones brooks mostert washington Bengals guys, not bangles guys as Dan says. What? You say bangles. It's bangles. Yeah, what are they? It's an E. It's an E. It's bangles.

Starting point is 00:20:34 What about A? It goes bangles. There's an A in the name, so it's bangles. It's bangles. It's B-E-N, the Cincinnati bangles. It's not bangles. The E you're putting on is at the end. Okay, you can walk like an Egyptian off the plank of this conversation.

Starting point is 00:20:50 Anyway. What do you want, Bengals? Bengals. Bengals? I've never heard anyone call them the Bengals. Well, I don't say it like that, shrugging my shoulder. I don't know. Anyway, you don't want to be too –

Starting point is 00:21:01 this is what we were just talking about on the mock draft episode that we did this morning on Friday morning. It's like you wait on that group because they're all the same. They're not all the same, but they're very similar. We don't want to be, that's why I really will not do zero RB. I'm just not doing it. You look at ADP trends. I talked about this on the position previews.

Starting point is 00:21:21 Drafting a top 12 running back has actually been a higher hit rate than drafting a top 12 wide receiver over the last four years. Was not the case in 2023, I will say that. But over the last four years in total, 56.3% of the running backs who were drafted top 12. 52% of the wide receivers drafted top 12 finished top 12. 75%, 36 of the top 48 running backs in ADP over the last four years have averaged 14 or more PPR fantasy points. So I equated 14 or more PPR fantasy points for So I equated 14 or more PPR fantasy points for a running back to 15 or more for a wide receiver. How many of those top 12 guys hit 14 for a running back or 15 for a wide receiver? Over the last four years, 75% hit rate for running back, 65% hit rate for wide receiver. Running backs have been a safer bet early. I know people don't

Starting point is 00:22:23 believe that, but it's been true. It wasn't true in 2023, but it was true in 2020, 21, and 2022. Don't go zero RB. That's the bottom line, for me anyway. From Brandon, Dear Happy, Billy, Bobby, and Longfellow.

Starting point is 00:22:38 Gilmore's? No. Sandler movies. Gilmore's. Gilmore's. You know what? Funny story real quick. About five minutes from my house, they did a Happy Gilmore's Gilmore's. You know what's funny? Funny story real quick. About five minutes from my house, they did a happy Gilmore to casting call thing where

Starting point is 00:22:50 like you like you could go and try to be in the movie because they're making a happy Gilmore to I was debating it. But I learned there were like 2000 people who went and like dressed up as like the caddy and like the guy with the helmet with the beer helmet and stuff. And I don't know if it was worth it. but to me, it was like my brother was like, you got to go, you got to go. It was our favorite childhood movie. Do you guys think I should have gone and spent that time?

Starting point is 00:23:13 No, absolutely not. Based on how much work you missed in the summer, you probably could have gone and just told us you were doing something else. You were probably on vacation that week. What the hell does that mean? Oh, those random Fridays that I had a couple vacations? Jesus Christ. Can you talk a little bit about Trey McBride, asks Brandon.

Starting point is 00:23:30 It seems like the consensus is everyone expecting a third-year breakout, but I've heard little or no buzz about him this offseason. That's interesting. Yeah, go ahead, Jamie. Talk about Trey McBride. I think he's a top three tight end this year. Got a chance to potentially be the number one guy heath's number one tight end for the season um you know i i know dave's got some concerns about

Starting point is 00:23:50 his potential lack of targets or losing some targets with um with uh sorry i'm up here in uh yeah make a pick draft fun league um losing some targets with marvin harrison jr going there but i still think he's going to be second on the team of targets easy. An offense that I want a part of. Drew Petsick runs a tight end friendly offense, and I think it's going to be fantastic for him. What pick

Starting point is 00:24:16 do you have? I have five. I'm taking Bijan. Nice. This is our draft-a-thon league where we raise $2,300 for someone to be in that. First five picks were McCaffrey to our kind donator. The footballers took Brees Hall. That's Andy Holloway. Dave took

Starting point is 00:24:32 Tyree Kill. Jake Seeley took CeeDee Lamb. And then I took Bijan. Justin Jefferson to the Minnesota fan. Scott Fish right at six. All right. This one I'll give to Dan. Follow-up on Trey McBride, basically. Aaron, in a small town in Iowa not named Dubuque or Cedar Rapids.

Starting point is 00:24:50 Dave always does those two. Where I have been to, Council Bluffs, I believe, is in Iowa. I find myself mock-drafting a lot of Marvin Harrison and Trey McBride. Is it too risky to have a wide receiver and a tight end from the same team? I don't think so. I think if the targets are as concentrated as people project them to be there, kind of like what we saw with the Rams

Starting point is 00:25:11 over the past few seasons with McVay, it won't be a problem at all. The question is how much faith you have in Kyler Murray and how much faith you have in Drew Pretzing to change this offense a little bit with the talent around him because he's been very run heavy and they're successful in the run game. They a really good run game so i just wonder about those

Starting point is 00:25:28 kind of things the thing working in your favor i think is that the arizona cardinals defense is still a year or two away so there could be potential for a lot more targets based on that all right here we go it's a big moment for dan he's been waiting a long time for this what's that auction talk you ready yes so we got called out by- I'm just so happy that you called it auction. And other listeners who said, hey, you said you were going to talk about auction. You didn't do it. Well, here it is.

Starting point is 00:25:51 Dan, I'm going to put five minutes on the clock. Five solid minutes of auction talk. Whoa. I'm not going to start the clock yet, but this is what I'm going to say. This is a problem with auction talk. They are all so different. There are no scripts.

Starting point is 00:26:08 It's the best part of auction. Yeah, no, they're great. But it makes it difficult to give advice. Agreed. But that being said, Dan, the floor is yours. You don't have the entire five minutes, by the way. But let's go. Auction talk.

Starting point is 00:26:21 I'll do some general stuff because Adam is right. The most important part about an auction is understanding the room, feeling the room out. And also at the same time, understanding that you need to change your strategy within the auction because things are going to be so dynamic. Now, here's some things that you have to do. You have to nominate players that you don't want. So you're not trying to nominate the players you want. You want to get the players out there that you don't like. You think they're overrated or the players that are hyped that you don't want to buy. They don't work within your plan and get the money spent there early. Do it. Keep going with that. Now, if you buy a quarterback, let's say it's a one quarterback league and you just want my

Starting point is 00:26:54 homes or one of the stars. Now your next strategy should be all nominations. Get those quarterbacks out, get the spending on the positions you already have. If your strategy is hero running back, you want one of the top three, you get breeze, any of those guys start nominating running back. So it's not just nominating players. You don't want it's nominating positions that you're not planning to spend on have a budget beforehand. But the way I like to do it is I like to look through each position and allocate a certain amount of money for each position. So if you already know that you spent this amount on a wide receiver, you don't, you can't get into that next tier of wide receivers. Those are other guys. You should be nominated there. A few other things I like to do

Starting point is 00:27:27 nominate players who are lower in tiers at wide receiver or running back early in the auction that you don't want, because they're always going to go for five to $6 more than they should, because that area of the auction hasn't had established value yet. You'll see at the end of every auction, if you throw out like a hot name, let's say like an Xavier worthy, if you don't want him, he'll end up going for 13 when that rest of his tier ends up going in the $6, $5 range later because people don't have money budgeted out. Out of 200, you're saying? Yeah, in a $200 budget. People don't have money budgeted.

Starting point is 00:27:54 I want to point out our rankings on CBS are $100 budgets. So if you're playing in a $200 budget, basically you just double them. I would say there are still $1 players who are $1 players in any format, but you could mostly just double them. I would say there are still like $1 players who are $1 players in any format, but you could mostly just double it. One thing I also say, it's similar to snake strategy, but it's even more pronounced in auction. If you're in a one quarterback league and you don't want one of these top quarterbacks,

Starting point is 00:28:16 the best thing you can do is spend as little as possible at quarterback because once 11 of your managers have their quarterback, they are not going to spend more than a few bucks on a backup and that's just not gonna happen. So you can get two guys for two or three bucks that are pretty damn good with a lot of upside. And that's basically the strategy I use in every one quarterback auction league, though. I play mostly two quarterback or super flex. Um, another thing I'd say is people don't love to spend on those tight ends, uh, in that like ranked four through

Starting point is 00:28:42 seven or three through seven range. I find a lot of value there. They may go in rounds four, five, six in our snakes. You can get them for nine, Kyle Pitts, Kincaid and McBride for nine, 10, 11 bucks. I think that's a really good value sweet spot in auctions this year. Something specific to auctions this year. That's my take there. Yeah. And I'm going to follow up on that. I'm going to say not just tight ends, but players in that round range. Right. I feel maybe not quarterback, but I love that range that, I'm going to say not just tight ends, but players in that round range. Right. I feel maybe not quarterback, but I love that range that, you know, the round four through six range. There's those guys, like no one goes to their auction, super excited about, you know, players in that range. They're like, Ooh, I can't wait to get to studs or my $1 sleep or whatever. They

Starting point is 00:29:21 sort of forget about those guys. So you can live in that range a little bit. And it tends, those guys tend to go like in the middle to late part of your draft, of your auction. Like if it's a two hour auction, they might be at the hour, the 90 minute mark or something. So I, I always, I'm never the first to spend. I save money for the middle. I don't know that I want to save money for the end in a 12 team league, but I save money for the middle. I'm definitely aggressive early, but I'm not going to be one of the most aggressive early. I want to take advantage of this. There's always inevitably a time in the draft where George Pickens just went for $6 out of 200 and people go, Oh my God, I can't believe that value. Well, they're all out of money and you've are not out of money,

Starting point is 00:30:03 but they're limited. You've got, you can be a bully. So, you know, that's, so don't spend too much for me. It's don't spend too much early and don't wait too long. Take advantage of like the middle part of the process. With that said, with that said, in almost every auction I've done, I'd say it's about 90, 85 to 90% of them. The first player nominated tends to be one of the best values of the entire draft because people are waiting for the market to set itself from a pricing standpoint. So do not be afraid to buy that first player. I will also say this, leave yourself some buying power at the end of your draft. It is so much more valuable to have the $3 or the $2 bench players that you get to pick rather than being that guy that keeps nominating a guy for one and someone says two and you're

Starting point is 00:30:41 just stuck and you just have to keep waiting for your next nomination. Now you get a worse guy. It's like basically waiting a whole round in a snake at that point. Here's my last point that I'll throw to Jamie. Even though I said I like to be in that middle range, I want to get at least two studs, if not three. I'd love to get two first-round caliber players, three first or second-round caliber players, or maybe three of those top 18 players. I'd love to do that. And, yes, you can do both.

Starting point is 00:31:03 You can get those three guys and have money left over for the round four to six that you're probably not getting around three caliber player, but that's fine because I think there's not a huge difference between round three and rounds four and five. So I'll take, I'll try to get, I'm doing one auction this year in a couple of weeks, but I'll try to get three top 18 players and then live in that round four to six range types of guys. Let me give two more important tips. One, don't be bidding on the last guy of a tier. It's even more important in auctions because that guy ends up going for more than anyone in his tier, despite not being ranked the highest

Starting point is 00:31:38 in his tier. I don't know if I agree with that though, because that would, that would assume everybody's looking at the same set of tiers. Yeah. Okay an adp tier let's say jamie of like a clear a for example the wide receivers the big wide receivers don't be the last guy caught bidding on one of those in my opinion though that may not be the case this year because people are down on jefferson so you're right i don't think that's through every auction but be careful with that because there is there are times where you know somebody who really needs that rb1 or that wide receiver one and it's the last guy that could be like it may not be the tier that we know Jamie, but could some, it's sometimes been like AJ Brown went for 40 in one of my auctions. It didn't really make sense. Those

Starting point is 00:32:12 types of things happen. One more thing that's really more important than that is do not the value is not, I'm not the value, the upside or whatever you want to call it, that you get out of it. The EV expected value is not worth it to do not get caught bidding bidding on a player to price and force that you are not willing to spend that money on. That is not a good strategy. Sometimes people like to do this. It's fun. They think another guy really wants someone to keep bidding. Then that guy stops. You're stuck with him. You didn't want him in the first place. You did not gain enough by bidding him up. Even the times it worked, it is not enough of an advantage to not be that person. It can ruin your entire draft and ruin your whole auction. Okay. Jamie, they've heard from the two

Starting point is 00:32:48 schmoes. And what do you have to say about auctions? I mean, I agree with a lot of what Dan said, you know, definitely try and nominate players that you don't want. You know, I think that's the smartest strategy you can have. Um, I don't know if I necessarily agree with spend, spend getting in on the first player because that also could screw you up as well. Just in terms of know if you spend too much on a guy that you may want if it's a guy you're targeting and somebody puts him up for bid then obviously you want to make sure you get that guy but i don't necessarily think you have to go a little too crazy it could be good value but i wouldn't want to over overvalue that first player um if you have kickers and defenses still in your leagues put those up first as well or early because it gets the dollar out of the way.

Starting point is 00:33:25 And then you don't have to sit there at the cycle at the end. That's in it. So yeah, that's like a $100 budget. Jamie always does this expertly. He picks his favorite DST and nominates them for one. Nobody wants to spend two. Some people will.

Starting point is 00:33:36 And then either way, it's a good play by you because you're getting them to waste money on a defense. True. Yep. Anything else? Nope. They hit the,

Starting point is 00:33:44 the, the best points. Yeah, no, no i think i did but that's fine all right we'll take a break we come back we've got good news bad news we've got fantasy cops and uh your apple podcast questions your draft with on questions your youtube questions busy second half of the show we'll be right back i think i understand you have a good news bad news scenario for me yes i do adam So for those who are somehow unaware, and Adam and I are playing the match this coming Tuesday, I got super amped up for this.

Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm already excited, but I got even more excited when I listened to Adam on yesterday's podcast say, this was, and he's no joke, the most important sporting event of his entire life. So that was awesome. But then he brought me way back down when online last night on Twitter, he's like, I'm going to lose.

Starting point is 00:34:24 I've accepted defeat. It was a sad comment. What did you say? Something like I said, I'm picking you to win, which has always been the case. You keep, you know, it's so funny. I haven't changed my, I haven't changed. Why are you picking me to win yourself? I haven't changed my standpoint on this the entire time. I think what's your goal then, Adam, give me your goal. If you're don't, my goal is to beat you, but I think you're going to gonna win you're probably better than I am but you are underestimating me every time I say something that I've said for the past three months you're like oh I never heard this before you play tennis as a kid like you are you are just making things up so I have always been picking you I even set the odds with you as the favorite and I'd love you to have a little confidence in yourself I'm

Starting point is 00:35:04 just talking this up to reverse psychology. You're trying to get me to not be as into it, but don't worry, Adam, that's not going to work. I am seeking. I'm out there for blood. I am looking for six Oh six.

Starting point is 00:35:14 So that's the goal. Okay. Not give up the game. Um, but here's the good news and the bad news. What would you prefer first? The good news or the bad news? I would like the bad news first.

Starting point is 00:35:22 Okay. The bad news is I found two hours to play Wednesday night with my friend, Gary Levine. And that's who I've played over a thousand sets, probably 5,000 sets within my life. My best match. He beat me six, four, five, five. We tied. And then the lights went out. Um, unbelievable match, but I shake shook off a lot of rust. What's the good news. The good news is I lost the set six, four, when I was serving down four or five with two double faults to end the set. I double faulted nine times in two sets. That is good. Really good news for you. Those are three points. Really good news for you. My serve is nowhere near good

Starting point is 00:35:56 right now. It's just totally rusty. The other good news is I am planning to, as of now, bring three rackets to this match. My cracked racket that is the only one I've known and used my entire life, and two random demos that I just got that I have no feel for, and I will probably be rotating them out in changeovers. I have not decided what to do yet, but that can't be a good strategy. If you lost 6-4 or 5-5 to a guy that plays, then it's not going to be a good night for me. It's not going to be a good day for me. Have some confidence gonna be a good day for me. Have some confidence in yourself. I'm just being honest. I am confident.

Starting point is 00:36:28 I just, I'm not that good yet. Like next year, I'm going to beat you this year. I think it'll be six, three, six. You'll never beat me in tennis in the history of your life. And we will continue to play and you will never beat me. I will, I will never lose a match to you. I want that clear. I want that on tape. Somebody cut that up. I will never lose to Adam in tennis. Now here's my bone to pick with Jamie. Last and yesterday's show, I heard Jamie just laugh, laugh us off as athletes, two of the worst athletes he said in the history of the world, essentially playing. I just want to say this. You may think I'm a bad athlete, Jamie, but I'd love you to find some bad athletes that picked up a sport.

Starting point is 00:37:01 And in year two of that sport, the hardest sport to play, they broke 93 times. And that's me in golf. You cannot be unathletic and break 93 times in year two of that sport. And I'd love to see somebody who is unathletic do that. I called you guys unathletic. You said this is the, you were talking to the doctor and you were like, and you were like, you know what? It riled me up and it got me going. And now I just have to say, what am I going to say? Yes. Two of the most pristine athletes that you've ever seen. I don't want to be there. Okay. I've got Eastern European bloodlines and a little bit of Greek. I can't be that good of an athlete. I'm five foot eight, but at the same time, I want some, put some respect on my name as they would say, as that rapper would say. I had such, you just reminded me, I had such a bad moment yesterday.

Starting point is 00:37:48 Two bad moments at the doctor. Could have been worse. These were just ego moments. I must have not been standing up straight. She measured me at 5'7 and 3 quarters. What? I've never been that short. I'm either shrinking or like we got to get another.

Starting point is 00:38:04 That's for me because I'm a little bit shorter than you no that's right like there's no way I'm not five eight I'm like five eight listen to this so they take my blood pressure and it's a little bit low so I don't know I mean I feel fine but they do uh there's like we got to do an EKG on you you guys ever had an EKG no yeah so they put little sticky things all over you, and they put them on your arms and your chest and your side, and then they attach things to it, whatever. It doesn't hurt.

Starting point is 00:38:30 It's fine. They had to do it twice because I had so much chest hair that the thing couldn't stick to my chest. It was so embarrassing. They spit some Brazilian wax job on you right on the spot, like from 40-year-old version. They had to bring in a second person to help out. Just to keep this thing stuck to my chest.

Starting point is 00:38:51 There's too much hair. I love this part. I need to call someone in. All right, let's do some fantasy cops. This one is from Casey. Thank you, Casey, for your fantasy cops. All right. We had a blockbuster trade for Christian McCaffrey

Starting point is 00:39:07 go down in our Dynasty League today. A member of our league put McCaffrey on the trade block and received a flood of offers. The person with McCaffrey ended up countering the top offer with a small counter adding Blake Corum to the trade, and it involved several first-round picks. Okay, so he gets a bunch of trades. He gets top one. He counters it. He puts Blake Corum in the trade, and it involves several first-round picks. Okay, so he gets a bunch of trades. He gets top one.

Starting point is 00:39:25 He counters it. He puts Blake Corum in there, right? While the counter offer was sent, another offer came in that was far better than that top offer. The CMC manager tried to hit accept on the better offer, but the app crashed.

Starting point is 00:39:40 It was not CBS. In the meantime, while the team who received that counteroffer hit accept. Okay, so he tried to accept this better offer after sending out the counteroffer, but the team that he countered to accepted

Starting point is 00:39:56 the counteroffer, the one that involved Blake Horham. The CMC manager is threatening to leave the league and wants that trade rescinded due to the app crashing. And the owner is also the commissioner. While the owner, who's also the commissioner and received CMC, said that since their offer was countered, they should easily have the right to accept without question. What do you think?

Starting point is 00:40:17 Wait, wait, wait. The counteroffer was sent. I'll do it again. Ready? Dan sends me a trade. Don't put me in this. I counter offer. Jamie sends me an even better trade.

Starting point is 00:40:29 And I try to accept Jamie's trade before Dan can accept my counter offer. But the app crashes. Meanwhile, Dan now accepts my counter offer. And I no longer have Jamie's even better trade to accept. Can I just start by saying the number of times that I've heard about apps crashing as a commissioner, I've been commissioner in my league and just other leagues is too many times for how often this could actually be happening. Let me start by saying that now go on Jay. Yeah. What should happen? I would think that unfortunately, because the app crashed, you're screwed. And you, if you're the one that sent the offer to somebody else, you have no, no way of

Starting point is 00:41:06 recourse here. Can I be blunt about this? I don't buy that the app crashed. Just going to start by saying that. Let me put that out. So you think the counter offer that was accepted should be the trade. I think that he saw that his counter offer got accepted and he saw I got a better offer. And then he said, Oh, the app crashed. Uh, what can I, you know, he thought in his head, let's just take it at face value and say it's true. If it's true, what do you think should happen? He tried to accept. Same thing as this.

Starting point is 00:41:30 You sent out a counter, that's out there, that's live. If it gets accepted, that's it. Yeah, you said it. Right. All right, this one is from Seth. Dear Antonio, Javon, Robert, and Greg. Greys. These are Packers receivers, right?

Starting point is 00:41:48 Freeman. Say it again. Antonio, Javon, Robert, and Greg. Yeah, Robert Jennings. Greg Jennings and Robert Tunyon. Tunyon? I don't know about that. All right.

Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm the commissioner of a 10-team keeper league. Every year, we have the option to keep one player at their previous season's draft position. Okay. Keepers can be from your team, blah, blah, blah. They have to be announced to the league two weeks before the draft. The only time these keepers can be changed

Starting point is 00:42:13 is if there is an injury. Draft picks can be traded all the way up to and during the draft. A week ago I announced I was keeping Jalen Warren in the 14th round. Fast forward to Sunday night, it's announced he has a hamstring injury, opening the door for me to select someone else.

Starting point is 00:42:28 I asked in the league message if I would be allowed to trade for a new keeper, and it was determined that I could, although no official poll was taken. I received multiple offers from various managers, but I ended up trading for Bijan as a late first-round keeper. This caused immediate backlash. Picks four through six were furious, I don't see what he did wrong here. He's allowed to change his keeper. What's the rule, though? Is the rule you're allowed to change your...

Starting point is 00:43:07 You're allowed to change your... This is the problem. We have this rule in our keeper league, but we just say you're allowed to rescind the injured player. And then you could keep a player from your own team. Right. This is a little different than that. Because he traded for Bijan.

Starting point is 00:43:20 Right. I don't know. That's why I feel a little confused about it. Not confused, a little conflicted. I don't think you should's why I feel a little confused about it. Not confused, a little conflicted. I don't think you should be allowed to trade for another keeper. I'm probably leaning toward that, yeah. Okay, so keeper from your own team. Especially if you're Kamesh.

Starting point is 00:43:34 You don't want that bad blood. All right. This is from Fresno Phil. Oh, this worked out so well. Oh, we'll come back to that. What do you got? My team? Yeah. What worked out so well. Oh, we'll come back to that. What do you got? My team? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:46 What worked out well? Bijan. I had a pass. You know how much I love Drake London, but I'm not going to take two Falcons. So I took Debo in round two, Waddle in round three, and Metcalf in round four.

Starting point is 00:43:58 Three receiver league, I assume? Yes. Okay, great. All right. Fresno Phil says, says urgent help needed we've got a situation in my 12 team keeper league we're entering our ninth season it's pretty competitive we have two commissioners for years we have threatened that if you don't set your keepers by the deadline the commissioner would assign your worst players as your keepers well Well, the keeper deadline was last night

Starting point is 00:44:25 and two of our managers forgot to set their keepers. One of them who forgot is in the chat now with the usual routine excuses about how busy her weekend was while her husband, who is the first commissioner, is defending her. And the other manager forgot to set their keepers. He's commissioner number two.

Starting point is 00:44:44 So you've got the wife of commissioner number one and commissioner number two who did not set their keepers. He's commissioner number two. So you've got the wife of commissioner number one and commissioner number two who did not set their keepers. It is a scandal wrapped up in conflict of interest. How do we resolve this potentially league altering fiasco? P.S. Commissioner number one is a listener. Suck it, Kevin. You you you resolve this. That's funny. you resolve this by eliminating this bad faith rule this is a horrible rule one of the worst i've ever heard what's better someone defaulting into having the worst keepers possible on their team or just doing what's right and having what they would want before a season even starts do we really want to be like technical using technicalities

Starting point is 00:45:19 to like ruin a team that's a horrific rule one of the dumbest i've heard it's not fun it's not funny and it's before a season starts like what what's a horrific rule. One of the dumbest I've heard. It's not fun. It's not funny. And it's before a season starts. Like what, what's a good way to lose activity in your league? Well, for someone by a technicality to have terrible keepers that ruins their whole season,

Starting point is 00:45:34 horrible rule. I think they should be given leeway and get the keepers that they want. I have a, we have a coworker who I will not name. Um, not in a league with me that, um, when the keepers were supposed to be due, I got a message. When are you processing the keepers? And I said, Oh, we're still waiting for somebody that deadline had passed. And our coworker said, it's about

Starting point is 00:45:59 time they learn a lesson. And I'm like what lesson are we teaching right this is that they want to leave the league like oh my god that was a hundred percent heath is no one in a million years that you would ever okay okay never you would never ever ever guess it so don't try it's no one that is on our shows no one that is on gotcha anything to do with our uh classic maroon no just kidding i know exactly what it is'm going to put it in the private chat. Okay, yeah. All right. Look, fantasy is supposed to be fun.

Starting point is 00:46:28 Let's keep that in mind. With that being said, listen to one of the worst fantasy managers in fantasy football history. This one comes from Elliot. My home league, which I've been

Starting point is 00:46:38 the commissioner of for 12 years, had to replace a manager. So I got someone the whole league knows to take the 10th spot. Within a day of adding him to the league chat, he tells me he wants to add a co-manager for his team.

Starting point is 00:46:51 Even though I told him our league doesn't do co-managers and the guy he wanted to co-manage with used to be in the league and was kicked out for a number of reasons. I won't get into after repeatedly telling him, no, he went on the league chat chat bashing me to everyone, trying to get the league to turn on me. He then texted me saying if I don't let him add his co-manager,

Starting point is 00:47:13 he's going to get the whole league to disband and join his own league. I told him to screw off and he's out of the league. He then complained to the whole league saying he shouldn't be kicked out and I'm being a dictator. The man has been in the league for two days. Am I wrong here? I don't see how I can allow him to remain in the league. Two days, he's already causing a problem?

Starting point is 00:47:37 And he tried to have a co-manager, which he's not allowed to do. 15 different problems. And it was a guy that already got kicked out of the league. It's the worst manager I've ever heard. This guy's a menace to society, let alone fantasy football. To society. And I think he thought it was so highly of himself that he would be able to get the whole

Starting point is 00:47:53 league to disband. That obviously didn't happen. Yeah, that's amazing. What a jerk. All right. This is interesting, just because it's something we talk about. So Jake Seeley in round five, four, five, five, took Rashi Rice. And Andy Holloway, who had two picks before him, just said in the chat, I almost took Rashi there but decided to play the ADP game and lost.

Starting point is 00:48:23 That's something valuable to take into account. When you start to see players in a range, be aggressive if they think they're going to exceed that range. So Andy, obviously a little buyer's remorse not getting him. And Scott Fish also followed up, said, I almost took Rice the last round as well. I was going to take him if it fell to me. Jake took him right before me.

Starting point is 00:48:42 He would have been my fourth receiver. I took Kincaid as a fallback. I think I would have taken him over Metcalf, potentially, personally. But it's not. I mean, look, we saw him last year. He was great, but he didn't have all this competition for targets. I actually think that the speed on the outside is going to help him even more. It might.

Starting point is 00:49:00 It might. It absolutely might. Yeah, so I think that if there's one player, I don't know the ADP as well as Jamie does, especially the CBS ADP, but if there's one player that I think that you don't even look at as ADP, it is Rasheed Rice. And there's more than one player. It's him, it's like neighbors.

Starting point is 00:49:16 If you like him, you can't look at his ADP. Well, it depends on the website. On our site, you can't look at his ADP. On other websites, he's like a third-round pick, fourth-round pick. I'm talking about the main sites, the ESPN, the Fantasy, not like the NFVC and the best ones. No, I use DraftSharks a lot because they have CBS in there, ESPN in there.

Starting point is 00:49:32 Rasheed Rice is someone who has risen so much in the last week or so that you should just expect him to be, I would say, expect him to be a top 50 pick. If you get him after that, that's great, but I would say like a round five he's in the round five range i think all right draftathon questions i know dan has to peace out

Starting point is 00:49:50 at some point these are like off from our donations no golf appreciate you thank you everybody um okay sorry where was i this is from smith uh my league is is a half PPR switchover from waiver wire to fab. That's the question. Does that change? Does fab change your draft strategy and or using fab money during the season? What?

Starting point is 00:50:16 Say that again. Okay, he's moving from waiver wire to fab. It doesn't change your draft strategy. No. But let's talk a little bit about fab leagues. And Jamie, you want to get the first word there are you on the clock i'll let dan do it so he's about to leave okay um yeah look fab leagues the best way to go for free agency uh i have learned through the years this

Starting point is 00:50:34 is something really valuable i usually wanted to budget and save money in my fab leagues that's changing from this point on i'm going for the week one or week two big hits puka last year kyron last year that's the only time i think there's anyone who could change your whole fantasy season. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe someone will pop up randomly in week five or six, one year out of every five, six, seven, eight, nine. Historically, that hasn't been the case. So I mean, I don't know how. I think those are outliers though. I think so too. Those are outliers as well, Jamie. I agree those are outliers as well. I just think those are outliers, though. I think so, too. Those are outliers as well, Jamie. I agree those are outliers as well. I just think those are better chance outliers than the hoping it's going to come up weeks later.

Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah, I mean, look, Laporta might have been available in some leagues. You can make a case for something like that. You can make a case for the other side of it, though. Like the week later, obviously not to the same heights. Again, you're not finding players, I think, like that. But Jerome Ford was a starter for people that got...

Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, but that's the thing. When was Rashi Rice? He was dropped in a lot of leagues. Yeah. I like to save – I don't need to save money, but I like to have some. And then – I think you've got to have just like such conviction that that's the guy. Like in the case of Kyron and Puka, it may have been a mistake.

Starting point is 00:51:44 It clearly didn't. But, you know, what I'm saying is like those guys had amazing starts. You could see there was reasons to buy into them. Kyron was the better of the two running backs. And I think people forget Cam Akers got a ton of work in week one. But with Cup being hurt, it was like, okay, it's worth taking a chance on this for the three weeks of what he might be in this offense. And then he clearly became that guy the rest of the way. But we've had so many examples of, you know, what was the receiver for Dallas that had the two touchdown game in week one?

Starting point is 00:52:13 Two years ago? Tolbert, was it him? No, it was before this. Maybe before Tolbert. Yeah. I don't remember. I don't even remember. It wasn't Noah Brown, was it?

Starting point is 00:52:21 No. No. But it was something like that. Noah Brown's a great example, right? Like he was a guy that... For two weeks, when all those injuries happened to the Texans. Look, if you can get a true game changer in week one,

Starting point is 00:52:32 then go for it. But I think it's risky to go, you know, later in your league, later in the season, when you need a win to get in the playoffs, all of a sudden you can't really get anybody you want. It's risky. Yeah. Donald just made this a two quarterback league by mistake he's like wow i'm getting great value

Starting point is 00:52:50 here i can't believe i got love and richardson in the sixth and seventh rounds uh mark said uh what do we expect in the chargers backfield yeah charge is really interesting for me daniel jeremiah i went on uh and he's so connected to the Chargers still and said draft JK Dobbins all off season. I had been avoiding Dobbins because of his injury history, but now I'm kind of finding myself back in the, wait a second. Should I just take a gamble on Dobbins? Um, so I'm kind of leaning there now, but I've always, I was on Gus the entire time. All I know is one thing is going to be true. They're going to run the ball and they're going to run the ball effectively. They're going to try to run the ball. The volume will be there. And I think it will be effective because not only do they add Joe all to

Starting point is 00:53:27 align the Ray has Rashawn Slater and first round pick as I am Williamson in addition to other good piece on the line, they have Harbaugh. They have Roman. Those guys know how to scheme run games. And we've seen in the preseason, someone's going to produce there. It could be two guys are going to produce there. And all you have to do is pay like the RB 36 price or worse. So it's just very easy value to me.

Starting point is 00:53:48 All right. Next question is from Clyde. I started my league about 25 years ago. We tried to make it a balanced scoring system. So starters were all equal. We made tight ends wide receivers. Okay. So, okay.

Starting point is 00:54:03 All right. So there are no tight ends. Tight ends are in the wide receiver pool. And six points for passing touchdown, one point for every 50 passing yards, one point for every 10 rushing and receiving yards, two points for every five receptions. So it's kind of like half PPR almost.

Starting point is 00:54:26 What's your strategy in this format? No tight ends. They're considered wide receivers. One point for 50 passing yards. One point for 50 passing yards and no tight ends? Yeah, so Jalen Hurts would be

Starting point is 00:54:41 maybe my QB1? Yeah. Jaden Daniels is maybe my QB1? Yeah. I mean, Jaden Daniels is like my QB6 or something in this format, right? Yeah. Daniel Jones is worth drafting. Oh, stop, stop, stop. You did not have to say Daniel Jones' name. It's not like you say him three times, he's going to show up in your can.

Starting point is 00:55:00 He hasn't won him anywhere near me. If there was two things I could have just predicted in the last 30 seconds, it was that Dan, when we talk about rushing quarterbacks, would say Daniel Jones and that Dave was going to take a running back and it was going to be Najee Harris in the last pick. I don't think I have that many Daniels. He couldn't go six rounds without two running backs. Well, that's true.

Starting point is 00:55:18 Dan and Dave cannot go without two running backs. All right, so I would say that your lead, Clyde, you don't need to draft a tight end. None of them are going to be such standouts where you need to draft them. And prioritize the mobile quarterbacks. Running quarterbacks. Even though it's six points per passing touchdown, one point for every 50 passing yards,

Starting point is 00:55:33 that's a huge deal. Don't even prioritize quarterbacks. That's probably the main takeaway. The position itself loses so much value. On that note, I do have to jump, but I will say this. This will probably be the last time you hear from me before I dismantle Adam in tennis

Starting point is 00:55:44 and match at ease. When is it? Tuesday. He moved it to Tuesday, but I have two podcasts. This will probably be the last time you hear from me before I dismantle Adam and tennis and match that. He's the one. Is it Tuesday? It's turn. He moved it to Tuesday, but I have two podcasts. I'm recording Tuesday one with Jacob. So it's a little bit later in the day. We'll figure that out.

Starting point is 00:55:51 We're working on getting a live stream for it. Working on video, Adam, we got to figure that out. We are hoping for a pre and post game interview. No, I don't like the idea. What?

Starting point is 00:56:01 I don't like the idea. You've been very gone. I don't like it. It's not a good idea. What's wrong with it? Nobody cares. Okay. What about an emergency pod?

Starting point is 00:56:09 No. I'm just going to have so much fun recapping. I have a live stream that night. We can recap it that night on the live stream. Maybe we do that. But have a great night, everybody. A great day, I should say. And we'll talk to you soon.

Starting point is 00:56:22 Go. See you. Nobody cares. Adam Trojek in Ontario says there's no way Dan would have gotten this right dear Joe Cito Devon and Roberto Joe Cito Devon and Roberto boxers

Starting point is 00:56:36 no come on these are Blue Jays they're 90s Blue Jays oh Cito Gasson yeah I run a 12 team half PPR oh yeah that's Oh, Cito Gaston, yeah. I run a 12-team half PPR. Jake Sealy about to ruin me. Oh, yeah? That's his Twitter. That's like his Twitter catchphrase.

Starting point is 00:56:55 Jake Sealy about to ruin you. All right. Anyway, Adam runs a league, 12 teams. It's got six bench spots. A couple guys don't like three receivers and would like to go to two wide receivers. It's because it's the three receiver league for now. Or two wide receivers and two flex. They also want to make it full PPR

Starting point is 00:57:10 and they want fewer bench spots. I agree with one less bench spots, but I feel like half PPR and three wide receivers is perfect. What do you think is the best roster point setting and why am I right, LOL? I think you're wrong. I think two wide receivers and two flex is better. Two wide receiver and two flex?

Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. I'm fine with that. I think just the ability to start three receivers based on how receivers are being used in the NFL and how deep the position is, it's more fun. Yeah, and half PPR is my favorite. What's your favorite?

Starting point is 00:57:42 I don't really care half or full. Half is more honest. And Adam says, if you'd like some Adam jokes about me, Adam is the type of guy who sets his alarm every day to 1111 so he can make a wish. That's funny. Adam is the type of guy who opens a bag of chips with scissors and says to himself, I've been good this week, before eating them.

Starting point is 00:58:04 Then says, whoopsie, I forgot the dip. He grabs it and closes the fridge with his hip. That's great. All right, and then we've got this from Derek. What's up, guys? I have two leagues, pick 10 in a 10-team super flex and pick 10 in a 12-team super flex. Everywhere I look tells me to take two quarterbacks

Starting point is 00:58:23 with my first two picks. But at that spot, I feel like the best quarterbacks are going to be gone, and I'm going to miss out on some really good players. What should I do? 10th pick in a 10-team super flex, 10th pick in a 12-team super flex? I would try and get at least one.

Starting point is 00:58:37 You know, I think it's in your best interest to try and get some level of high-end quarterback play without having to play the guessing game. If you don't take two early, then you probably want to look to take two with a pick in round five, six, or seven in that range. I like the way that you and I both built our teams in the last Superflex draft that we did where I took Josh Allen second overall, I believe it was, and then came back in round five and seven i believe and got

Starting point is 00:59:07 matthew stafford and will levis and you took uh caleb williams with your second round pick yeah mcafree in round one caleb in round two and then geno smith and deshaun watson maybe or deshaun watson geno smith something like that so you something like that. You get the point. You're getting one top 12-ish quarterback and then two guys that could be top 20 caliber guys. Let's go to our Apple podcast questions. This is one from

Starting point is 00:59:35 No Name. 12-team PPR league is taking Keenan Allen in round five acceptable? No. From Uncle Stinkstonk, our buddy, love the show. For the record, Dan is the funniest. Come on. How bad or awesome is this idea? We're starting up

Starting point is 00:59:52 a 10-team dynasty league. I propose that it would be an auto-draft. Each pick has a 60-second time limit, and we all have to be together in person to take the piss out of each other as their auto-pick rolls in. To take the what out of each other? The piss out of each other as their auto-pick rolls in. To take the what out of each other? The piss out of each other.

Starting point is 01:00:08 I never heard that expression either. But Startup Dynasty League, that's all auto-picks, and you commiserate together. Okay. I think 60 seconds is too long. It's going to get boring. I would do a 15-second timer. Well, unless it just all defaults to the auto picks and they go quickly. Right.

Starting point is 01:00:26 It would. Yeah. But like if you're going to put a time limit on it, it's all auto picked. Like then they're going to, the timer is going to run, but that sounds horrible, but also fun.

Starting point is 01:00:35 This is from Justin drew Phillip. What is your preferred draft position in a three wide receiver plus flex PPR league? Three wide receiver plus flex. Um, one of the top eight picks to guarantee one of those top receivers. And at this point, given the fact of how the nature of how wild we could see Jefferson chase

Starting point is 01:01:00 and lamb potentially fall, I wouldn't be opposed to being at the back end of that. I mean, you just heard Dan say. Yeah, but I really want Tyreek Hill. Well, if you want Tyreek Hill, then go too.

Starting point is 01:01:14 Yeah. And if CeeDee Lamb signs, I'll want, like, tomorrow, I'll probably want him. I think Dave said he dropped him to 10th overall.

Starting point is 01:01:25 Man, that's wild. Dave, I don't know if you remember this. I think Dave said he dropped him to 10th overall. Man, that's wild. Dave, I don't know if you remember this. I brought this up, but Debo Samuel a couple years ago had a really bad season. In between two great seasons, he had a terrible season. I'm pretty sure he was a training camp holdout that year. It's possible because

Starting point is 01:01:39 he definitely was a holdout recently. Debo Samuel training camp holdout 2022. Debo Samuel training camp holdout 2022. He agreed. Listen to this. He had a hold in during training camp before ultimately agreeing to a three-year deal on July 31st. We should be taking that seriously. That was an oddly terrible year for him.

Starting point is 01:02:00 July 31st? Oh, July 31st. Sorry. I don't know why I read that as August 31st. Okay, never mind. It is irrelevant. No, no, I'm asking you. You said July 31st? It was July 31st. Sorry. I don't know why I read that as August 31st. Okay, never mind. It is irrelevant. No, no, I'm asking you. You said July 31st.

Starting point is 01:02:08 It was July. It was July. My bad. All right, this is from Travis in Philly. I'm going from PPR to a half PPR for the first time in a 10-team Superflex League. What advice would you give? How will half PPR be closer or be different?

Starting point is 01:02:21 Is it closer to PPR or non? PPR. It is closer to PPR or non? PPR. It is closer to PPR. We did talk about this on the format show earlier this week. Half PPR, I think you've got to be

Starting point is 01:02:31 a little more cognizant of high catch wide receivers. Like Rasheed Rice is still pretty valuable but not as valuable. Mike Evans will gain some value. Derek Henry will gain some value. Alvin Kamara will lose some value.

Starting point is 01:02:44 It's kind of like that, but you're going to structure your team more similarly to a full PPR league. I would say that, but in a full PPR league, your flex is probably going to be a receiver. In a half PPR league, it could be either one, receiver or running back. In a non-PPR league, it's probably going to be a running back. This is from Andrew. My league recently ballooned from 12 to 16 teams. Could you talk about league setting considerations

Starting point is 01:03:13 to keep things competitive? Our managers range from beginner to advanced. Any strategies you'd have in a 16-team league? I think in that type of format, you probably want to prioritize a tight end early. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:31 You don't want tight end 14 to 16. Right. That's for sure. I don't know what to do about quarterback. I think wait, I would wait, just play the board. But there is something about like,

Starting point is 01:03:43 you're going to be, you're going to be starting some bad players in 16 team leagues to have Patrick Mahomes could give you a big edge and then settings you probably do you want to reduce

Starting point is 01:03:52 the roster sizes or reduce the starting lineup sizes I mean I play in a 22 team league where we go one quarterback we go team quarterback

Starting point is 01:04:00 actually team quarterback running back receiver tight end two flexes so tight end, two flexes. So one, one, one, two flexes. That's 22 teams. Yeah, so maybe you go one running back, two receivers, two flexes.

Starting point is 01:04:17 Tight end. Okay, that's not a bad idea. All right, YouTube. What do you got for us, YouTube? I did see one question that said, is Daniel Jones going to throw the ball downfield more? And yes, absolutely. Big priority.

Starting point is 01:04:30 There it is. Big priority for the Giants. But I don't think Jalen Hyatt, to answer your question, Jazz or Jaws, is going to be anything worth rostering. I agree. What else do we got here? Oh, this is true. From Commando Fury.

Starting point is 01:04:49 Adam is the type of guy who'd be too afraid to bait a hook. 100%. Are you talking live? I'd be too afraid of the live bait. I'm not afraid of the hook.

Starting point is 01:04:57 I just don't want to touch like a worm. No way. But I'd put fake bait on there. Yeah, for sure. Fake bait. Yeah, like cheese. Okay okay here's a question keeper advice 10 team half ppr super flex keep two of three tyreek in the first chase

Starting point is 01:05:16 in the second or jordan love oh this is my very last pick yeah love and chase uh very last pick. Love and Chase. Very last picks would be Love and Chase, yes. Cousin Ernest, you've been donating. It's so appreciated. The private Zoom call is one-on-one. Yes. We answered

Starting point is 01:05:39 this question earlier for us, but you were not here. That's fine. Where are you ranking Taysom Hill, tight end eligible? Jamie, what did you say, like 13? In the 13 to 15 range, yes. Okay. Who's a good QB3 in Superflex? We can only rock...

Starting point is 01:05:57 Whoa! Thorball just rang. I'm probably done. Who's a good QB3 in Superflex? Bownix. Yeah, it's fine I think the way Jamie and I did it he had Josh Allen who'd you have? Will Levis okay and I had

Starting point is 01:06:16 Caleb Williams, Geno Smith that's somebody I took early if you're talking about waiting you're talking about Bryce Young, Bonix Russell Wilson those type of guys alright Jamie thank you if you have talking about waiting, like, like you're talking about Bryce Young, we'll let Bo Nix, um, uh, Russell Wilson, you know,

Starting point is 01:06:27 those type of guys. Yeah. All right, Jamie, thank you. If you have to go, it's fine. Um,

Starting point is 01:06:31 Oh, this is a great one. Bijan or Brees. Uh, I'm still a breeze. I think lack of competition for him by comparison to Bijan Robinson, Tyler, I'll joke. It'd be a problem.

Starting point is 01:06:39 Speaking of Bijan, you want to hear my team so far? Yeah. Nope. See you later. All right. Uh, I'll read, let's see. I will read a few more from Justin when drafting in multiple leagues. Do you try to have all your teams look the same or try to have them all be different? No, I like to have a different, uh, I like to have different, uh, rosters try different things, but I will say that I don't mind having the same player on multiple teams,

Starting point is 01:07:09 like a lot. If it's a later, a mid to late round pick, that's not necessarily going to make or break my team, but maybe it's a breakout or a guy like T Higgins who goes in the fifth round. I don't mind having that. I don't necessarily, if I have the third through sixth pick in a draft in three different leagues, I'm definitely not taking the same guy all three times. So I like to mix it up a little bit. But if you like someone late, like a few years ago, Tom Brady, his second year with Tampa Bay.

Starting point is 01:07:36 I drafted a lot of Tom Brady. He was one of my best years. He had a huge season. And he was like a ninth round pick. Let's see if I can find one more. Where would you consider drafting Tyreek Hill and CeeDee Lamb in a super flex league?

Starting point is 01:07:50 Definitely in the first round for me. Probably for Tyreek Hill because he doesn't have the holdout situation. I am probably taking him as a top five pick. I might take him

Starting point is 01:08:03 ahead of any quarterbacks. Now I am way different on that in Superflex. And I did it in that league that we were just talking about. I'll try my very best to find that league and to give you my draft results. No, 2QB. Where is that? Man, no, I don't have it. I'm sorry. But I had, how do I not have this? I went with McCaffrey first, then Caleb Williams, then I'm pretty sure it was Puka Nakua, and then like another really good player, and I still ended up with, you know, McCaffrey, Puka, Caleb.

Starting point is 01:08:36 Yeah. Anyway, I like the quarterback depth this year, so I'm not afraid to take a guy like Tyree Kill even before QB1. That's it for me. That's it for everybody. Have a wonderful weekend, everybody. I appreciate your questions. I really do. And all the donations and everything. It's just me and you right now. Even Schaefer's gone. I have to end the show by myself. Let me just tell you, from the bottom of my heart, I love you guys and girls. Love this FFT family.

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