Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag! Can You Draft Too Many Rookies? (08/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: August 16, 2025Bid on Draft-A-Thon items here! https://tiltify.com/@cbs-sport...s/fft-draftathon-2025 We answer some intro questions (4:26) about how to structure your team if you have a pick in the middle of the first round, if there's such a thing as drafting too many rookies, auction strategies (22:40) and more. Then we read your Draft-A-Thon questions (31:10), more emails (51:45) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com, your Apple Podcast questions (59:10) and YouTube comments (1:03:40) Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
It's mailbag time.
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Adam Azer here with Jamie Eisenberg and Dan Cheater.
Whoa, sorry, Schneier.
What?
I don't know.
Here we go.
You better be kidding.
A lot of people.
You read the comments.
A lot of people thought the call to all.
I saw the comment about that point at 5846.
First of all, I went back and watched that point.
It looks in, but it's not in.
I'm right there on the ballmark, and it's literally out.
And anything you see from that long distance,
from that video angle is not correct.
Like, I'm right on the ball.
Not to mention there's a,
and I watched the whole thing,
there was a point later in the match
where I called it in and it was out,
and Dave and Heath,
I'm sorry,
Jamie and Heath,
I'm all flustered now.
Jamie Heath were like,
oh,
I was out and he called it in.
So, like,
I don't even know what you're talking about.
I was literally right on that shot.
I could have easily hit it back
and whipped the winner,
but I'm not going to call a ball that's out in.
I'm not going to call a ball that's out in.
You could have ripped a winner on a lob
that was all the way back at the baseline.
You could have turned around.
Dude,
There's a literal ballmark.
You can come over and look at it.
But you could have hit a winner from there.
You could have hit.
No, I'm talking about the one of 5846 I see in the comments that people are all mad about.
Because they were many.
And I looked at it.
I was like, yeah, from that angle it looks in.
It wasn't in.
I'm right at the ball, like setting up for my shot.
But I'm not going to call a ball that's out in.
If there's a ballmark and it's out, well, then it's out.
I'm calling it out.
I don't need to just give you free.
Like, it's not even about that.
Like, I'm just not going to call a ball that's clearly on Clay out in.
I'm just kidding with you, man.
I need to cheat the beach, buddy.
Adam, before the show, don't linger on anything.
Yeah, he started that.
I'm giving the, I'm giving the listeners and the viewers a little look into my life here.
You see this taking off a screen door, we got paint cans behind me.
This is what I'm living in, okay?
This is why you see me record in front of a refrigerator and a brick wall,
because it's all I got to work with.
It's that or the bathroom again.
I'm not going back to the bathroom.
It was just a mistake.
I didn't mean to say it.
It just popped out, but listen.
We all know the reason why Dan is so ornery today.
It's because of the dinner he ate last night,
which I'm going to show you a picture of it a little bit here at YouTube.com slash fantasy football today.
All right.
So we got your emails at Fantasy Football at CBSI.com,
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But, yeah, we get a little goofy on the mailbag.
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Let's start with, though, a quick round of emails.
And this one is from, hold on one second.
He wanted me to use the sound bite.
This is from,
E, uh, it's this from evil.
Eric.
There we go.
Uh, dear Adam, Jamie, Dave, and Heath.
Answer to the names is,
below.
Kind of a generic.
This is pretty funny, by the way.
Kind of generic question.
I have the sixth pick.
Personally, I think Lamb, Jefferson, or Barclay will be there, and I plan on taking
whichever one of the three is available.
My fear is that two are available.
So my question is, which position this year is the more important of the two to take
in the first round?
I guess which do you view as more top-heavy?
In other words, if you have players that you value equally, one running back and one
wide receiver, which position is more important to take in the first round?
Oh, and the names are the names of the four porcelain dolls I have in my attic.
That's great.
Very sweet.
I prefer C.D. Lamb of that group.
And I think if you're looking at it from setting up your second round pick, you say it's being six?
Yeah.
So the two most likely players you could be looking at depending on who, I said three most likely players to be looking at, depending on who falls, would be Drake London.
Josh Jacobs, and Brock Bowers.
That's assuming AJ Brown's gone.
We'll see how this hamstring injury plays stuff out.
And obviously there could be quarterbacks could be pushed up there.
Brock Bowers could be gone, pushing some other players down.
It's just, I guess I'll say London or Brown could be the receiver you're looking at there.
And then that running back group, to me, is led by Jacobs.
So it's Jacobs, Taylor, Chase Brown, Bucky Irving, that group.
So for me, I'm taking lamb and then depending on how many receivers you start, you may take
receiver receiver or you may go lamb and Jacobs.
In a vacuum, I will take lamb, but I actually am starting from a snake draft standpoint as we're
working through more of these mock drafts.
And by the way, I think if you guys are interested in just kind of preparing for your
drafts this week, and go check out our site, CBSports.com, backslash fantasy.
We have tons of mock drafts up there.
So you can kind of parse through and build your strategy based on.
on where players are coming off the board.
Thanks again,
you're organizing all those
and writing them up.
And I'll say this from a snake draft standpoint,
despite preferring lamb in a vacuum,
I'm going running back early
because I love the value of wide receiver
and the depth of wide receiver
in the rounds four to six range.
So I actually want to build that,
and I'm never this type of drafter.
I always prefer wide receivers early
for the anti-fragility argument,
I'd rather.
But as recent studies have shown,
I think Adam,
you did a good job of breaking this down
maybe two, three months ago on the show.
Injuries are not as,
to happen to the running backs wide receivers as we kind of assume they are so with that line plus
the depth at wide receiver in rounds four to six I'm taking running backs early I'm even starting
some with running back running back I started a draft today that we did that'll be on the site probably
either later this afternoon or Monday maybe Monday since we had two at the site today running back running
back and so that never used to happen for me but I'm more open to it based on the depth at wide
receiver well first of all you know it wouldn't be a mailback if I didn't correct you it's cbsports
dot com slash fantasy not a backslash why do you hate the backslash everybody knows the backslash everybody
uses it's not a backslash that you're incorrect but everybody knows what i mean by that just say
slash no everybody knows what i mean nobody needs that corrected okay adam you i think why don't
you do us a favor one person kid's small miami shirt that i heard about on the stream last night
when i rewatched i want to see that thing because i haven't seen it yet one person needs that
corrected um we sort of have taken the approach you can't you can't critique shirts
after your brother was giving you crap for wearing your mediums.
No, he said it best.
He said I was between medium and large as a human being.
And that's because I had put on a lot of weight.
And then I lost a lot of weight.
So it's hard to figure out my size.
I don't really fit into anything great.
So this shirt seems to be fine.
We'll call you Marge.
Your brother also said the Schneier's are very, uh, what, uh, barrel chested men.
Yeah, he's right about that.
We have issues with the chat.
It just, no matter what we do, it just pops out.
I said, you said, you said,
between medium and large.
So I said, we'll call you Marge.
You want to laugh for that?
I know in all seriousness.
It's kind of contrary to what we've been saying that wide receiver is not so deep.
I mean, it's deep in a sense that there's a lot of, you know,
really good wide receiver two candidates.
But once you get to round three and four, there's pretty big drop off between that
group and the one that ends with, you know, Brian Thomas Jr.,
Pooka, and Nico Collins.
Yeah.
even AJ Brown, Drake London after that.
So we sort of say you probably want to come out of your first two picks with at least one wide receiver,
especially in a three receiver league.
It's not a requirement, but it's not a bad idea.
I would take Lamb, and I would say I wouldn't even think about round two.
I'll just take the best player there at pick six.
You never know who's going to fall to you.
Don't, yeah, I would just take Lamb.
I think we all have Lamb the highest in that trio.
So I'm just curious.
He said, he said at six, he's expecting Lamb,
one of Lamb,
Barkley, Jefferson
or potentially two.
Yeah.
So that would mean
in the first five picks
we're talking about
Chase, Robinson,
Gibbs.
Gibbs, McAfree?
Hey, Chan?
Like, who's going ahead
of those guys?
Neighbors, maybe, I don't know.
I don't know.
All right, next email
from Ryan.
I'm a big fan of the show
all the way from Ireland.
And I, nope,
nope, not going to do it.
I struggled to really.
Try to an Irish accent?
I was going to try.
lad but uh that is not that's like a chicken note uh right right like the dude from the simpsons
who abu abu a poo i said that sound like a poo you did and it can listeners confirm that
that was sounded way more like an indian accent than an irish accent yeah well it was on the spot
i wasn't even expecting to do it uh i'm having trouble separating the late round late
Late round, damn, you're right, you're right.
Lay around ADP at receiver and finding good value.
Who are the late round?
Jamie, who are the late round wide receivers that Ryan should target in Ireland?
How late are we talking here?
Picks 100 through 160.
Keon Coleman's probably one of my favorite guys in this range.
I'm trying to think who goes that late.
I still like that burden.
Olavi's not going that late.
Is Alave not going that late still or no?
Technically, but I don't think it's going to be.
Yeah, I'm skeptical of the ADP.
Impulsion is a good one.
Depending on how late we want to go.
DeMario Douglas is one of my favorites.
Cedric Tillman, somebody I take Lake, Rashid,
Romeo Dobbs now.
Marvin Mims is a good one.
These are all much later.
Darno Mooney is somebody,
one of the commenters just posted that.
That's a good call.
Pop Douglas.
Yeah, I said DeMorrow Douglas.
If this Josh Downs injury is significant,
Michael Pittman, who I think is already underrated.
a little bit.
Yeah, and if a Mecca Buka might still be there,
so that would be an alert.
No, there's no chance he's going to be there.
I don't know, you never know, but not in our drafts.
I think there's a chance.
Right, in home leagues.
I also feel the same way with Golden.
I think there's a outside chance he falls in a home league.
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is from tyler in new york city fantasy breakouts can often be found by identifying underrated offenses
think about last year's bucks um yeah no it is
is a great take. Who are these years
underrated offenses? I'm personally
interested in the Panthers and
Falcons. Falcons for sure for me.
Especially if Mooney's Healthy. I like
the setup for what their defense looks like and what
their offensive coaching staff.
Showed us a little bit last year, especially if you just go
by points per game. Pennix average over
30 points per game as a starter last year. I don't think that
was all him clearly, but
two top end fantasy
talents when you talk about, you know,
the running back and the number one receiver.
and I like the other parts in certain regards to the second receiver in the tight end.
But that's one I like.
I don't think the Panthers is a bad call.
I like the Patriots.
I think they're going to be surprised offense.
Josh McDaniels back there, Drake May taking a step forward.
I like some of the young pieces that they added bringing in Stefan Diggs.
Miami can easily bounce back.
I mean, that's a fairly obvious one, you know, just based on where they were a year ago with all the injuries.
And if they can get their bleep together, you know, we saw what they were.
two years ago when Tua led the NFL in passing yards and, you know, a lot of big games there.
Yeah, and they were top 10 in offense when Tua was healthy last year, too.
Yeah.
And they could be top five.
But they're also having a just horrible offseason and apparently had a just dreadful joint practice against the Lions last week.
They followed it up with a much better one, but not a lot of good press.
There's a big reason for that, though.
What?
Both receivers sat out the first practice.
Waddle came back to second practice.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I like the Panthers call.
I'm really getting pretty optimistic about them.
I don't want to be overreacting here.
I don't know that there are any sleepers on that offense other than Yon.
Coker.
Coker, like, I had read that Coker was not even playing with the starters, that it was,
like he wasn't playing in the slot anymore because they've got Renfro.
It kind of depends if Deland does get traded.
I'm with you on that.
Well, they have Renfro now.
And Coker was playing like outside behind Ligit or Lijit.
That's what I had read.
That was a couple of weeks ago, I think.
I have a feeling Jalen Coker is going to be this year's Dantavian Wicks.
Like we like him a lot more than he produces.
That's fair.
The big ones for me are the Jags and the Texans.
I think they're both wildly underrated in fantasy and could both be really good offenses.
Jacksonville is a great call, especially with Liam Cohen there.
I think the Texans, man, their schedule is super easy passing-wise.
They have to throw.
Both those teams have.
And mostly tech, I want to make it clear, Texans pass game for me, not run game.
Both of those teams have kind of bad lines.
They do.
And that's why they're ranked low.
Yeah.
Okay. And we never know how the lines are going to play, just what it looks like on paper.
Brandon says, I find myself leaving my drafts with too many rookies.
Well, let's put a question mark after that.
I know it's a fairly good class with a lot of potential, but I've had multiple drafts where I have five or six rookies on my teams.
Usually most are all of Hampton, Caleb Johnson, Teterole McMillan, Tyler Warren,
Golden, Abuka, sometimes Harvey and Hunter get added to.
Dan, is it too many rookies?
I mean, you're asking the wrong guy.
I'm a very rookie heavy drafter, even in redrafts.
So for me, no, but there is a question because I think back in the day,
and this has really changed year over, year over year,
and it's trending in the direction of you used to get these guys at much deeper
and better ADPs than you get them now.
They're really pushed up the board.
There's a lot of fantasy analysis out there.
Twitter's just showing, in my opinion, you just get great information off of that as well,
analysts and what we do on the show.
We have multiple shows, multiple times a week.
Like these guys, their values are no longer great.
So I think at some point, I do have to consider altering that strategy as soon as my drafts this year and maybe opting to take the players who have proven themselves a little bit over some of these guys.
I don't think, though, based on the players that he listed, depending on when he drafted, because you're right, the ADP does get sort of out of control in our drafts.
You know, we just got through going through late round ADP and you guys made the case, which could still be happening, Abuca later, golden later.
Like, you know, we don't know where those guys will end up.
But in the case, like, read the names again.
Hampton, we have news on that, too, is the athletic kind of guessing that Najee Harris is going to start the season.
Projection?
Yeah.
Projecting that Najee Harris is going to start the season on the Pup list.
And NFI list.
I'm sorry.
I told you the wrong thing.
Okay.
It's the same time frame, though, isn't it?
The projection would be NIFI list and missed the first four games.
Okay.
I'm not 100% sure if you have to miss the first four games on NFI.
You do on Pup.
Hampton, Caleb Johnson, Tetero, McMillan, Tyler Warren, Golden, Abuka.
Look, we got this amazing rookie running back class coming in.
Like I said on our running back show, if you don't leave your draft with at least one,
I think you're making a mistake.
But now, yeah, I'm all about getting a lot of them.
But when after a Monday show, after preseason week one, Jamie, you were talking about
Harvey and Henderson in round three.
And that starts to make me, and Hampton too, right?
I mean, that does start to make me a little nervous.
So I, but again, I think just listening.
to those names, if, again, I'll just sort of play it out the way I think it went, you probably
took Hampton in the three, four range. You probably took Tet in round five. He said Hunter, too.
Sometimes. He said sometimes Harvey and Hunter. So, okay, this isn't a one team, but like if you're
getting Hampton in the round three, four range, if you're getting Tet in the round five range or
Hunter in the round five, six range, if you're getting a Bucca, let's just say right now it's
round eight. I'll be conservative. Caleb Johnson's falling. So it's not like you're spending all of
your heavy draft capital on these players. Like you're taking them in sort of what I would say is
appropriate spots. Now, if you're walking out of it and saying my top two running backs are Hampton
and Henderson, my top two wide receivers are Ted and Nabucca, then it's a problem, you know, because
you probably reach for these guys and you passed up on some quality veterans. Like I think you want
to have obviously some sort of a balance. But to your point, Adam, like,
Like, there's an easy path here, and it's not just, again, the high-end guys.
Like, we're going to see Basial Tutin and Jaden Blue have roles here.
We're going to see, you know, I think Luther Burton have roles here.
You know, Tyler Warren is going to be, and Colston levels are going to be, you know,
at some point having good, you know, strong performances.
So it's easy to sort of pick and choose which rookies you want to target
or which range of rookies you want to target.
But again, like, if you're spending all of your draft capital on it,
then it's not smart.
I want to talk about Hampton real quick here
because if Najee does start the year on the NFI list
then he's out for a chunk
and Hampton gets to start the season as the guy
I know he's going to share
Dan and I were talking about this at dinner last night
like there's a lot of you can find a lot of stats
about how Greg Roman has never produced
the top 12 PPR running back
but it's hard to be a top 12 PPR running back
when you've got Colin Kaepernick, Terad Taylor, Lamar Jackson
as your quarterback
because those guys don't throw to their running backs
but he had pretty much never,
he had almost never produced the wide receiver
as good as Lab McConkey until last year.
You know, he had a Sammy Wackens year in there.
There were some other good ones,
but he never had Justin Herbert before a quarterback.
So I don't know that I look at those trends, man.
I mean, I'm easily taking Hampton in round three
if Nagey's starting a year.
100%.
Right?
I mean, round two does feel a little rich.
It does feel rich, though.
Round two does.
Not three though.
No, two.
Yeah, like mid three, early round three at the turn.
is still a little rich for me, and I've seen him go there.
Yeah, some really good players there.
So that's, that would be tough.
He's firmly in the conversation with, right now at least, and might be ahead of them,
if Naji's out for four games with James Cook and Ken Walker.
Like, I don't know how he can't put him there.
I couldn't take him over James Cook.
I think, but Adam and I are on that island.
I think we both feel, don't you feel that Cook is wildly underrated in fantasy.
Absolutely.
I don't think he's wildly underrated now.
I think he was getting to that point.
where he was falling in our drafts.
His ADP didn't really move that much.
Like 31 is not a bad spot for him.
No, actually, I do think that's an appropriate spot for him.
By the way, J.K. Dobbins, J.K. Dobbins was on pace for 41 catches last year.
That's not that bad.
You know, and Hampton's probably a better pass catcher than J.K. Dobbins played a,
it'll be interesting to say, I guess if Naji's on NFI, then we can get there.
But the one thing, the key thing here for me is, like, the bills, I trust that offensive line.
People are, like, the Charter's offense line was middling, lost its best player.
That's my bigger concern more than anything with Hampton.
Did you think it was middling?
I thought it was good in Lost its best player.
No, I thought it was middling and lost its player.
All right.
Lost his best player.
Are we going to take a quick break?
To let you know, if he is on the NFI list, these are the other guys that they're projecting to make the roster, Daniel Popper of the athletic.
Hassan Haskins, Rahim Sanders, and Kamani Vidal.
Yeah.
How much is Marianne Hampton coming off the field?
Get the rocket ship emojis.
out. Come on.
All right. When we come back.
At this point, like if you're drafting this weekend,
you should be looking at Hampton in round three.
Like, pull the trigger.
When we come back,
what did Dan have for dinner last night?
Was it great? Was it disgusting? Was it a little bit of both?
Also, I want to talk about auctions because we have this question.
Yeah, I'll just read it after the break. And then we'll get to your draftathon questions.
More of your emails at fantasy football at cbsi.com, Apple Podcast, YouTube.
and we'll be right back on FFT.
All right, everybody.
So I got a question here from Brandon.
Nope, I just read that one.
Where's the auction one?
I just deleted it.
Whoops, there it is.
From Rambo.
If you do have an auction show,
can you compare prices in industry expert leagues to home leagues?
It seems that whenever someone quotes a value for a player,
it's way different from what I see in the two leagues that I play,
and particularly the high-end players.
So Rambo, this is exactly why I don't do a ton of auction content, although we owe you guys
an auction episode and it will happen.
But they're just too unpredictable and they're just so different.
And to sit here and say, oh, Jamar Chay should go for this percent of the budget or whatever,
I mean, it's just every auction is, there's zebra stripes, you know?
They're just so different.
How could that not make it a much better format than me?
I'm not saying it's good.
I know, which is crazy to me.
Like, the way you just described that, it sounds like a much better, more fun, and more strategic version of fantasy football.
It's terrific.
It's different.
It's also more time.
That's the only thing.
That's the only thing.
That's the only thing.
But it's the only thing.
But it's the only thing.
Like, you can spend a few hours on it, in my mind.
So what do you think, Jamie, should we do an, what I'm thinking is we do an auction and when we just put it on YouTube.
Because I don't know, it might just be too long.
And when I've done auctions in the past, I feel like on the air for a podcast.
Those go too long, yeah.
Yeah, I'm not sure it's the best content.
Not great content.
But we can give you strategies.
I mean, I always say I love to spend,
I love to keep money for like the guys,
the guys that go in like rounds three through five.
I feel like you get great values on the not quite elite players,
but the very good players who might go later in the draft,
later in the auction process when people have already spent a lot of money.
And then, bam, I just got Ted Earl McMillan for $4.
Not him, because he's too typed,
but it will be like an unhyped guy, yes, like a waddle or something.
Right, right, yeah.
I like to load up on that.
It really comes down to, I think the way you explain it, though, I don't, I kind of disagree
with you saying that's not a good way to explain it, like the percentage of budget for specific
player.
Oh, no, it's just saying that it's so hard to, it's just that it's so different in every,
there's a good way to explain it.
It's just that what happens in our auction could be so different than what happens
in another auction, whereas we know Jamar Chase is going one or two in every draft,
basically.
I think from an advice standpoint, though, like to say you want to dedicate to,
this percentage of your budget to this tier or these players in this tier is a good way to give
people advice that can sort of be across the board. So we always, when we talk about auction salary
cap drafts, is tier your players because like you want to try and buy into certain tiers if
you're so inclined to. So like if you want to get one of the top five quarterbacks, like you're
clearly going to rank them a certain way, but you're going to have them in that upper echelon of the
position. And so if I want to spend 20% of my budget on that spot because I want an elite
quarterback, it might be, you know, $100 budget. You're spending, you know, $20 on Lamar Jackson
and maybe 17 on Jalen Hertz. Yeah. What do you think about being the last, getting the last
player in a tier? You don't want to do that, right? You want to get this, maybe the second to last
player in a tier because you don't want to be. I think that's where it comes down to the pricing, right? So if
If I view, you know, I mean, I've been updating my tiers every week.
There'll be another one coming on Monday.
Sorry, Dan, I make you do more work.
There's, you know, like I put the five quarterbacks at the top in one tier.
Because while I do value Jackson more so than I do Jalen Hertz, I think there's a clear
difference between those five guys and the rest of the field.
So if you're telling me that I'm spending $30, or we'll go $100 a budget, I'm spending, you know, $18
on Lamar Jackson
but I can get Jalen
Hertz for 15
I'll take that discount
because I'm still getting a player
I think has a chance to be QB1
Yeah
All right anything to add Dan
Before we move on from auction talk
We'll do an episode on it
Maybe I can jump on for that
I don't know it would take too long for me to throw stuff in
I just hope people give it a shock
It's really only adding an extra hour or two
Once you get it down
And once your league gets used to it to your retraft
Like to me it's like
Can't do an extra hour or two
for something that's a lot better.
I just really hope more people adopt auction.
Once you go to it, you never go back.
And I don't say, if you can commit to it, do it in person.
It's so much more.
Oh, it's so good in person.
Yeah, I just sent out an email.
At an auctioneer, one of your friends auctioneers it or somebody, you know,
take somebody, go to a bar, go to a restaurant, tell somebody you buy them dinner,
let them, somebody's not in the league, you know, sibling, spouse, whatever the case may be.
Let them run the auction for you, coach them up on how to do it.
Adam, you know, talked about this recently.
Like, it's impossible and unfair, really, to try and be the auctioneer and participate in it.
But if you can find somebody to do it for you and do it in person, it's so much fun.
Yeah, no, but last year, cautionary tale.
Last year I did it at a restaurant and we were there so late that they were like basically closing.
So this year we're moving it to my house.
So we'd have to worry about that.
All right.
Run up a bigger tab then.
They were so nice about it.
But we, I felt, we felt awful just making them stay there on a one day or two.
So this is the counter argument to it.
You know why people still prefer snake drafts.
Like you're going to be investing a lot of your time in, in doing this, whether you're
doing it online or you're doing a person.
But again, it could be one of the most fun experience.
I would highly recommend our audience obviously is very dedicated.
They, you know, we see a lot of the same people in chat.
If you have not done it and you're a fantasy football diehard, you have to do at least one.
You may never go back after you do one.
But please do it at least once.
It's going to be mind-boiling and change your view on how you build your fantasy teams.
What is the purpose of an auctioneer, Johnny says?
I've only played auctions where the managers nominate players.
Well, you can't.
Fair, to keep it fair.
Yeah, I mean, I was the auctioneer last year, and I drafted a horrible team because I'm just so busy trying to manage the auctioneer and nominate it.
You know, you want somebody to just sit there and be like, all right, next bid is you can nominate the player, but then the auctioneer is looking for the bids.
I got 15.
I guess, you know, whatever.
Anyway, all right, let's move on.
We've spoken enough about auctions for now.
Next week, we're going to...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, was the same room?
I was taken to...
Yeah, I told you.
This is the room that's under construction, dude.
I have nothing to work with here in this house.
I was trying to show the people how hard it is and what I'm dealing with.
But then I got too much flack in the comments.
So we're going back to the brick wall, back to the refrigerator.
I like the brick wall refrigerator.
I don't hate it as much as people do seem to on this podcast.
Yeah.
How about your brother saying that you...
This peanut butter and the refrigerator thing is not your families.
No, it's not a family thing.
It's my own thing.
And listen, again, as I said on the last episode, a lot of people reached out to me after
the show and said, you know what, peanut butter in the fridge, I do it too.
You're not alone.
And so that made me feel better about myself.
Good for you.
Got another injury.
Who went down.
Better not be a giant.
No, I don't know if it's long term.
But Travis Hunter not going to play in the preseason game because he's dealing with an upper body injury.
Don't love that.
All right.
Speaking of which, next week we're going to have.
75 snaps on each side of the balls
and all the greatest thing to do.
We have an email addressing this exact issue.
But anyway, we have an injury doctor
coming on next week.
So we'll ask him about some of the most relevant players
and if he's worried about Christian McCaffrey
and stuff like that.
Injury doctor, you don't say.
Nice.
We do.
I don't remember which one it was.
There are a lot of great injury doctors on Twitter,
at least the ones that I found to be somewhat reputable.
One suggested, did not say,
and I'll find it so I can give you the name,
but suggested that information that they got on Joe Mixen
took them off their draft board.
Oh, boy.
I did see that today.
That one I'm not taking serious.
I mean, like, what is private information?
Like, that's, I don't know, Jamie.
I'm taking for what it's worth.
Okay.
We're getting Dr. Jesse Morris on next week.
He's all over X.
So he does a great job and we'll talk to him.
this is from uh jeff muller
says yeah i've seen him too
uh i received info from two different
people that info has been enough for me to
fully remove joe mixon from my board
and would not reveal what the information is
okay
maybe i maybe i need to be less stubborn about that
we'll see i'm going to ask jesse morse about it
okay uh so draftathon questions
thank you to all of you who donated very much appreciated
Tony, or T-Bone, says, thoughts on wide receiver running,
we kind of addressed this at the top,
but wide receiver running back or vice versa in the first and second,
and then a top five quarterback in the third,
Kittle in the fourth.
Can, you know, can that work?
So let's say running back receiver or receiver running back,
then Jaden Daniels and George Kittle.
That's exactly, actually, if you want to read our pick-by-pick series,
that's exactly how I built my team.
I think I had the eighth pick, and I had one different position of each of my first four picks.
So it was, I can't remember the players.
It was definitely kiddle in round four, and I think Jaden Daniels in round three.
No, I think it was Josh Allen in round three.
But I thought the team was fine.
It's easier to do in a two-receiver league than a three-receiver.
In fact, I'd borderline recommend it in a two-receiver league.
But three-receiver league, you're not going to love your wide receiver depth.
There's no question.
But I'm fine with it.
Dan, any comments on that?
again like I feel like this year it's set up better at least in my mind to go running backs early and build it out that way because I really like the depth of receiver in that four to six range there are some backs to take in that range but I just find myself enjoying my builds more when I go running back early which never was the case it might be almost better to just be balanced because like yeah what you're seeing is like round two is very mixed because you're getting at the top end of round two
anyone from
Brian Thomas,
Nico Collins,
Amara St.
Brown,
AJ Brown,
Drake London,
right?
We typically see
four guaranteed receivers
in the first round,
right?
And then the next group
is mixed.
Once you get to neighbors,
like anybody after neighbors
could be a round one
or round two pick.
Okay.
Through London.
Agreed?
Yeah.
London's not going to
go around one or Brown.
No,
no,
but what I'm saying is
from post
neighbors through London.
Ooh, post neighbors drip.
Team name.
No.
Yes, Jamie, I agree.
Post nasal drip.
That's crazy.
You had a good one the other day.
Lake Loveland, not Warren.
Yeah, that one.
Make Loveland not Warren.
That was a great one.
Thank you.
I was listening to the pod.
You're best.
So post neighbors through London, right?
That's back end of round one beginning of round two.
So you could see two or three of those guys in round two.
Maybe.
right yeah yeah yeah then you get through the round two running backs which could be everybody from
potentially gentie henry jacobs taylor chase brown bucky irving kairn williams correct yeah
that's basically round two so you can come away with running back receiver receiver running
back your first two picks let's just say that's something you want to do you get to round three
this is where it gets messy because now the wide the round three wide receivers are anyone
one from T. Higgins, Ladd-McConkey, Tyree Kill, Devante, Adams, Garrett Wilson, J.S.N.
Like, those are the guys are going to be in the round three mix.
Maybe Mike Evans now, of Chris Godwin's out for extended period of time.
The round three running backs are looking a little bit more attracted now because now James Cook has
signed, Ken Walker, if he's healthy, Amari and Hampton, if there's no Najee Harris,
and then maybe you're going to push up Travion Henderson or potentially R.J. Harvey.
I don't think they're round three picks, but they're in that conversation now.
So if you want to just sort of play it with taking out.
just taking out the quarterbacks and the tight ends.
Like it's not a bad way to go running back, receiver, receiver running back with your first
four picks.
And you might be in a good spot that way as opposed to just committing to one strategy.
You know me.
I'm a hero RB guy, but like this feels like it might be a better route to go.
Yeah, it was easier to be a hero RB guy when I felt confident that I could get Trayvion
in round five.
You know, we can't do that anymore, most likely, but.
But what if that's now, forget it's Henderson, what if that's in, you know, whatever
your preference is, if that's not Camara.
or that's Brees Hall if he falls,
or if that's James Connor or D'Andre Swift or Chuba.
No, I mean, I'd be fine with most of that.
I just don't know that it'll happen.
I think it might make, you know, the wide receivers fall a little bit.
It's just one player, Henderson and Harvey.
Henderson and Harvey, two players that get pushed up.
Yeah, no, but whatever.
There are different ways to go about it.
I don't know that I would set out to go running back,
quarterback tight end, but I think it could work, especially if you crush it with Kiddle.
Now, I have a question, though, what's better?
Wide receiver in round one, Brock Bowers, Jaden Daniels, and then a running back in
round four, which could be Javion Henderson.
So in other words, would you rather have Bowers and Henderson or
or, yeah, round two running back?
I don't know if it's, I guess I could say Jacobs and Kittle.
I think there's a bigger drop.
Well, I wouldn't say a bigger drop off because I'm not taking a
tight end.
If I'm not taking Bowers and McBride, I'm just waiting because there's so many good
late round tight ends to target, like a slew of them.
But ultimately, like, if you pass up on those running backs, Jamie outlined, or the
receiver that the receivers that are up the top there, you're going to have a huge drop
off, to me at least.
Like Henderson, I get the hype.
I understand him.
He's not in that same range.
He's not, I don't think he's going to get the same kind of volume.
Okay.
Why are you afraid of, not afraid of, why are you not afraid?
Why are you not putting Kittal higher or more emphasis?
Kittle.
Kittal belongs potentially in that mix of McBride Bowers.
My issue with Kittle, and it's just something I can't get over is his age and injury history.
But he should have crazy stats if he stays healthy, and he should definitely pay it off.
I definitely won't.
I know Leport is hurt now, but I think that's a terrible pick to me.
Anything Leporta Hockinson in that range of tight ends, I think you're just burning a draft pick.
Okay.
This is from sure.
I am a Kelsey guy, but I'm falling off on Kelsey.
I'm fine because there's too much love.
and there's too much good stuff at the end.
All right, let's move on.
This is from Shirm.
Dear, Sam, John, Edison, and Benjin.
Benjin?
Yeah.
Is this not Game of Thrones?
Benjian is Game of Thrones.
So are Sam and John.
Who the heck is Edison?
John, Edison.
So I definitely, yeah, I mean, like you hit it all people at the wall.
I guess the people who were up at the wall.
But I don't remember Edison.
Oh, Edison is Edison Tolet.
He is a steward of the Knights Watch and a close friend.
friend.
Yeah, it's all nice watch, but I don't remember Edison for some reason.
You know of you saw him.
Flying to L.A. from the East Coast for my fantasy football draft.
What's the farthest you have traveled for a draft?
For a draft?
Yeah, for me, it was about 10 minutes to Quaker Tavern last year for the auction.
Now I'm doing it in my house, so I'm not traveling at all.
New York, for me, I guess, would be the farthest I've traveled for a draft.
When's your draft?
Maybe I'll come up auctioneer and we'll play a match, another match.
Oh, it's Tuesday, September 2nd.
I'd be happy to do that.
It's going to be tough on a work day, but we'll see.
All right, that'd be fun.
We were debating that if you, because you guys were in the time crunch, that if the
We would have went and played it.
I heard you guys.
Yeah, we would have went and played it on a court.
I told Adam, let's go find a public court and we'll just finish it.
Right.
That's what I thought you would have done.
But then how legitimate would you have acknowledged if Adam had beaten you?
Oh, if he beats me, I'm going to just tell everyone.
Like, if he earns a win, it has to be said, like he beat me.
And I know he's thinking now after yesterday's match that he's going to beat me next year.
He said after the match in the post game, I think I can beat Dan.
Last year I didn't feel like I could.
I just feel like on any given day I can beat them.
I don't think so.
I think looking back on the match, I think that my lack of stamina by playing in an indoor enclosed a million degree court played a big role because I wasn't able to come to net and I wasn't attacking.
I watched the first set.
He's like, oh, I played so bad.
first set. I don't know about that. I felt like I was hitting the ball really well,
hitting it really deep and being able to come to net because I'm hitting at depth.
You said, Jamie, like I wasn't coming to net in the second set because I was tired.
It was less of that. It was more of I just wasn't hitting with good depth to come.
You can only come to net if you're hitting with good depth. And I was not getting good depth
on my ground strokes in the second set. But I also said in the podcast that we did on Friday morning
that one of the reasons you got tired was because I was playing better. I was moving you
all over the court. I was hitting harder.
Good point.
You are.
And I don't think it was the main reason I was tired, but you are.
But if I make as much improvement from year two to your three as I did from year one to year two and you basically stay the same, you're going to be in trouble next year.
If that happens, yeah.
I will.
And honestly, I will make more.
I don't know how you could take that same kind of jump year over year.
I feel like you'll plateau at some.
It's like, you got a plateau at some point.
No, because I have to develop a net game.
If I had a net game, I could have won that match.
That's what it is.
I think it's right.
won that match.
You lost 6-0 in the first set.
I was, I could have easily, Jamie, you saw it.
How many points did I give away at the net?
Both ways?
If you lose a set 6-0, you were not winning a match.
Well, no, I could have, I obviously could have won the second set.
And then we're going to a third set tie break.
He would have beat you if you went to a third set.
No, he wouldn't have.
I know you think that, Jamie, but just think about the 4-4 game.
I dug deep.
I was, I had game point down 4-5.
I had game points.
I had literally nothing left.
I was getting the chills.
I thought I was going to pass.
That was bad.
dude. I thought I was going to pass out. I'm, like, embarrassed quite literally since Adam dealt
with that heat so fine. I guess, I told my brother after the match, I guess I got to start doing
like, HIT training or something, like, because I'm, I must be in worse shape than I realize.
See, here's, this is the fascinating thing to me about this, because Adam is going to make an effort
to play more tennis. Yes. You are not going to make an effort. You'll play more tennis,
but you're, you're, you're going to play, you're going to play more golf.
100%. The caveat to all of this is, is that Adam's children are getting to a point where they have a lot of activities that he's going to have to be torn on.
This is why I stopped playing softball because my kids, I got to take them to activity after activity.
It's just like, I can't.
And so at what point does Adam, the dad, get in the way of Adam, the tennis player, and then doesn't get the opportunity to make that next step.
Now, this is where Adam's commitment level comes to the game.
You know, and enjoy that much into it.
No, this is more important.
Well, I heard you make one comment yesterday, Jamie.
that like you thought like I might be sandbagging it.
Last year when I played the first match against Adam,
I literally had only played two or three times.
This year I never said I was only playing two.
I played like, you know,
I looked back on it.
I played with my one friend that's good five times this summer.
And then I played with my dad a bunch and my brother like doubles,
family doubles.
That is not the same.
Like I'm playing USDA matches.
Yeah,
but I'm playing down.
The USDA matches actually held me back because when I was playing against my friends
who were actually really good,
that helped.
The USDA matches held me back.
because I was playing 3-0 doubles, and I'm like a 3-7-5, basically.
So those were not challenges for me.
And I will say this.
And next year's match, he will be, I will force him to hit more back-hands.
He ran around that back-end the entire match as I watched.
My back-in was fine.
My back-in was fine.
You hit, like, three total back-ends, the whole match.
What do you mean?
I hit plenty of back-in.
In fact, I hit a very, the last point.
You were running around your back-end, all that.
Yeah.
Well, who wouldn't run around their back-end?
I've got a really good point of the match.
I give you a ton of credit for it.
I had a very good, very short back-hand that you got to.
to. I set me up for a wide open court. I missed it somehow. We should have been a deuce.
I had, I had game point in that. It should have been 5-5, and I blew it. And 5-all, I feel good about
my chances to win the set. And I feel great about my chances to win the tiebreaker. So I easily could
have won that match. If we went to the third set, you were done, Dan. I don't care what
you said. I know. It would have been tough. If we had gone to a third set, the match would have been
over because I was not going to let him play because he thought he was going to die.
It was bad at one point.
I was getting the chills.
The thing is, I don't know if it was dehydration because I was drinking a lot at the
breaks.
I don't know.
It was super hot.
No, I mean, I guess I'm in better shape than I realize.
All right, here's a question from Mike.
12-team redraft snake allows team to trade draft picks prior to the draft.
You can't trade future picks and you must receive the same number of picks you trade away.
Like, I'll trade you picks 15 and 34 in exchange for 5 and 100.
In 20 years, no one in our league has ever actually used.
this rule. I think it would be fun to orchestrate the first ever draft pick trade. How might you
value your draft picks? Can you give me a couple examples of trades that you might offer?
So it's just picks. It's not players. Yeah. And we got to hurry up here, guys. I would say
if you want to give up a first round pick, you should probably get at least a third round pick
in return. So your first for a third and maybe, like I always think it's fair to do two for two.
so like a first and a 10 for like three and a six,
something along those lines.
Okay.
Let's go to Kevin from Queen City.
I have the seventh pick in a 10-team league, PPR.
In the unlikely event, A-chan falls to me in round two.
I guess that would be 14th overall.
Yeah.
Is it too risky to go CMC and A-chan in full PPR?
No.
not for me but as you guys know from listening i'm much higher on cmc than consensus so i just find
that to be really good upside you're you're getting the potential of by far and away the two
most likely running backs in the draft pool to lead this next season of receptions
right that that could be 180 catches yeah and i i think 10 team leagues like you want to swing
for the fences you want to take the most upside potential that you can get
because A, you have to separate yourself from a very talented league.
B, it's easy to recover.
You know, so you're going to find the waiver wire being a lot more friendly to you than it is in 12-team league.
So our 10-team league last week, which I don't think we spent any time talking about, you know me.
I'm not taking quarterbacks early.
I'm not taking quarterback in tight-end early.
I took Bowers in round two.
I took Jayton Daniels round four.
Now, granted, quarterbacks fall a little bit more in our league.
So let's say that was maybe Joe Burrow or Jalen Hertz.
But, like, I want to be, I want to have the opportunity to have a positional advantage and maybe significant.
And that's why taking Bowers in round two or McBride in round two, I think is so important in attempting me.
You took Daniels 35th overall.
So that's not too far past his ADP.
This one is from Eric.
Eric W.
How do you handle ADP when drafting offline and everyone uses different rankings?
Tears, are you tier based all the way?
Does it change your preferred draft spot?
so I guess you don't have rankings in front of you
you know how does this change things
or you don't have like the draft room in front of you
nobody has rankings or you just
take to pick about what everyone used
yeah everyone uses different rankings he says
so pick what you want
I don't know Dan you could speak to this
I know Chris Towers used to do this
yeah does somebody for us still do a
ADP review of other sites
no we haven't done that in a few years since Chris
it's actually not a bad take
I mean he did he did it
he did he do it last year maybe no he didn't do it last year but he's done it in the past i think
listen you have to figure out who you trust first and foremost you know you trust me
dave heath you trust our consensus rankings you trust espn you trust yahoo whoever the case may be
and you're going to get some great values you're going to see some players that's shocked the hell
out of you in your draft it's just the nature of it you know and and this is why we did this
draft we've done four drafts with st jude donations it's all of our listeners
and me every time i think adam's on one of them there have been wild wild picks and it's the most
fun drafts we do because we did a super flex draft today yeah changed a little bit a couple different
people drafting with us when it's me dan adam heath dave jacob uh thomas like i knew exactly when
i saw who was up up thomas was taking jordan mason not just because the viking's fan because
i know he's going to take jordan mason that range i knew ad was going to take this guy because he
follows my rankings to a T.
I knew that Dan was going to take this guy.
Jacob's going to take Colston Lovellum.
I'm like, it's easy to, I can map it out.
Like, if you told me to sit down, this is how it's going to go.
I could probably get it within about 70% accurate.
How the draft, right?
You think you probably do that at this point?
So we did the St. Jude draft Tuesday.
Josh Jacobs went in the first round.
What?
Justin Jefferson fell to 11.
What?
Like, okay, now we got to adjust.
And that's the fun of it.
So every draft is a living world.
organism, take it for what it's worth. But I think if you're going to go into this, pick the
analyst that you trust the most, the ranking list that you trust the most, and follow it
to however close you want to. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back, finally, we'll show
you Dan Sandwich, read some of your emails, some of your Apple podcast questions and your YouTube
comments. We'll be right back. Jeez, I'm just seeing in the chat that people now are calling
hot dogs glizzies. Yeah, where have you been? Where have you been? I've been eating hot
dogs you've never heard the term glizzy no i never have an i hate it i absolutely hate it
i don't love it either but the fact that you haven't heard it is more concerning than anything
else let's see what you ate for dinner last night all right on the left on the left we have
adam's deal a quick story of it so i had a nice chicken par himself it was really good i finished
it today um a lot of cheese very cheesy the fries of the mount kisco diner are unbeatable unbeatable
Dan, what the hell did you eat yesterday?
So first of all, the last time we went to this Mount Kiscoe diner, it's basically like a place that has crazy sandwiches, crazy things.
I got something called the Jersey Shore, which had like fried ravioli, chicken cutlin, mozzarella sticks, marinerra, all that sucks.
And then this time we go over there and Adam's like, I'm going to do it this time, guys.
Because Adam ordered like, last year Adam ordered like steamed rice, chicken teriaki, hold the teriaki soft.
Oh, shut up.
I'm joking a little bit, but it was pretty much on.
par. He's like, I'm going to do it this year. I'm going to get one of these crazy sandwiches. I'm
going to just go all out. We just, like, you know, we just grind it through two sets. We
burned it all off. And he just orders like a regular chicken par. Like, it looks great. And it probably
was great. But like, he didn't, I thought he was finally going to go all in. And I went all in again.
I ordered another one of their crazy sandwiches. This was chopped cheese. This has had to be
2,000 calories. It was chopped on a sub roll on a toasted sub roll. I think garlic something,
like garlic butter or something. It was chopped cheese, chopped onion rings.
mozzarella sticks, brown gravy, French fries, I think.
Wasn't it a burger or no?
Chop cheese, which means burger chopped up.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, you should know that as a New Yorker.
It's burger chopped up.
And then American cheese and I think mozzarella cheese as well, it was, it basically
reminded me of for those who remember Ruckers, remember the grease trucks at Ruckers,
like those fat sandwiches that now everyone's kind of stolen the idea.
It's just like all fried food on a sandwich.
It was unbelievable, by the way.
It tasted so great.
I ate every last bit of it.
It felt horrible after eating it, driving home for an hour and a half, a ridiculously tough drive.
And let's just say the toilet has been in use this morning.
Oh, geez.
I took mine home for seconds.
You want to know why I had more stamina in the second set there.
I ate mine in two settings.
Dan ate that whole thing.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, but I'm glad you liked it.
It's such a great place.
If you ever were in town, go to the Mount Kiscoe diner.
All right.
Question from Jim.
Subject line is C.D. Lamb second overall. Am I crazy? I'm in a half PPR league in the second spot. I've been doing mock drafts and I like the running back depth that falls much more than the wide receiver depth in rounds two and four. If Chase goes one, that leaves lamb, too. Yeah, Lamb's my second receiver.
No, but he's saying he wants to take him over Bijan Robinson because he likes the running backs in rounds two and three better.
I'm sorry, we had this question with your tennis pro yesterday. He asked the same thing because he said he's a CDLam fan.
and he wants to trade down because he wants Lamb,
but he said everybody knows he's a CD Lamb fan,
and so they don't want to trade with him
because they know he's going to probably take Lamb at two.
Look, I can't fault you when Lamb's my third overall player
to say don't take him at two.
If you feel like you're better off coming off your draft,
coming out of your first three rounds,
going Lamb, Chase Brown, Kairn Williams,
some combination of that.
Like, that's hard to overlook if you feel that way.
Yeah.
Don't be afraid to go off the board.
Versus Bijon, you know, maybe T. Higgins' Lab McCocky.
Just have to ask yourself, you know, just answer it by yourself.
Are you at all concerned about George Pickens taking something away from C.D. Lamb?
Nobody really seems to be, but he's just never had, since he's broken out the last three years,
he's never had a good wide receiver opposite him.
But to your point with that, what has Justin Jefferson been with Jordan Addison?
Not as good.
Last year, he scored his few.
his fantasy points per game in the last, in the last like four seasons. And he had his
lowest target per outrun rate, maybe of his career or maybe, maybe just like the last few
years. But that was also a half a year of Hawkinson, too.
True. All right. This is from Dave and Flint. I'm listening to the tight end breakout episode,
and I hear Jamie say he would take one of the top tight ends in the second round of a two receiver
league. But here's my question and where I need clarity. I'm in a 10 team, two
receiver league with two flexes and it's half ppr um i pick at number eight so i've been taking a running
back wide receiver approach usually a chan at 1.8 and then a top wide receiver after that but with jamie's
comment is it smarter for me to take one of the top tight ends at 2.8 instead of a wide receiver now again
this is 10 teams two receivers but two flexes and half ppr so the draft we did if you want to take a look
at it was a full ppr so a little bit different and i had the sixth pick as opposed to the eighth pick
I will say this.
If you think you can get Kittle in round three, then pass on the tight end and hopefully
Kittle falls back to you.
I just think at that position more so than quarterback, if I can get one of the top
three guys, I'm going to try and do it every time.
I just looking at what Bowers, McBride, and Kittle can do compared to the field.
Like Dan said it best, the late round tight ends could be fantastic.
And one of those guys is going to have probably a 12 plus point per game season, whether
it's Kraft or the rookies.
right or there i just read something while you guys were discussing the the food uh how much josh now
was looking for dalton kinkade like he could surprise us like we thought he was going to do it last
year whatever the case may be the john new smith season you know put it that way so you'll hit on somebody
you know and and maybe it's leporter or no joker or one of these other guys that you know
we're kind of a little concerned about um i just think in a 10 team league forget about the flexes
there's so many good running backs and wide receivers you should be able to get and i'll just
reference the team that I drafted quickly.
It was Lamb in round one,
Bowers round two,
Jonathan Taylor, round three,
Jay and Daniels round four.
Wow.
My two flexes are Alvin Camara and Tony Pollard
because I kept sort of
passing on receiver
a little bit too much. My number two receiver
is Jalen Waddle. I don't love that
in the 10 team week. I think he'll be fine, but I don't
love it. Obviously, Tyreeks here versus
not there is different. But I can make that
work. I'm not going to find a tight end like
Brock Bowers. True.
Number two receiver is Jalen Waddle?
I don't know. I mean, there's only one pick I think you made that
it's only one player that went after Bowers in this 10-team PPR league that I
think you, that was a mistake. I think you should have taken Brian Thomas Jr.
over Brock Bowers. And then St. Brown was after that, and maybe I would have done
that too. I get what you're going for here, but the fact that Jalen Waddle is your
wide receiver too is really scary for me to me. In a 10-team league, how the hell did
that happen? Because you have Daniels and Bowers.
I don't know.
I'm surprised.
I know how much you're like,
I get it.
I totally get it.
It's in a smaller format,
tight end,
get that elite tight end.
It's better.
I'm surprised you took him
over Brian Thomas Jr.
In a 12 team league,
I wouldn't have done it.
Yeah.
In a three-receiver league,
I wouldn't have done it.
In a two-receiver league,
I'm going to play,
wait,
like Jacoby Myers is also
another guy in my roster.
Like, you know,
I'll make that work.
Yeah, all right,
I get it.
It makes sense.
All right, Dan,
I'm going to give you this one.
Dear Michael, Fiona,
Sam and Jesse.
Michael, Fiona,
Sam and Jesse.
Oh, man, I really should know that, right?
I think this is shameless.
Oh, it is shameless.
No, it's not.
It's watched a couple seasons.
It's burn notice.
It's burn notice.
Totally jump the ship.
Oh, it's burn notice.
Shameless is good, by the way.
Never saw burn notice.
Jim was very little overrated.
Ten team PPR Superflex.
Keep two at no cost.
This is really interesting because where does Baker-Mayfield rank
in a Superflex league.
10 team, you said?
Yeah.
PPR.
Baker Mayfield,
Drake London,
Brian Thomas,
Jr.
Tray McBride,
Josh Jacobs.
Mayfield,
London,
Brian Thomas,
Jr.,
Tray McBride,
and Josh Jacobson.
How many do I get to keep?
Two.
At no cost.
I think I'm probably keeping
London and Brian Thomas,
honestly.
I'm not worried about filling
quarterbacks
in a 10 team super flex.
Okay. This is from Stephen.
Have your dynasty rookie draft rankings changed with training camp and preseason developments?
I have a rookie draft tomorrow with the second pick, 1QB league, full PPR.
Would you still take Hampton, or are you considering Henderson now?
I would still take Hampton over Henderson for sure, Dynasty.
Hampton for sure, just because we viewed Najee as a one-year situation anyway.
You might not have that one year, or at least the majority of the one year.
So it's just crazy that Najee, four years, does not miss a game.
now he may start on the NFList.
Like, it's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I would keep him out.
And what's changed really is like Caleb Johnson and Quinchon Judkins.
Like those two guys were sort of staples as mid-round picks.
And it's pretty easy at this point.
The format matters.
But like a book ahead of them and Golden ahead of them, I think, pretty easily.
All right.
Let's get some Apple podcast questions going on here.
This one is.
I really love that back-to-back years in your league.
I've taken Jonathan Brooks and Quinn Sean Judkins is my first two things.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, he's still better than my team.
The Big Burger?
Yeah.
We refer to that as Adams League now.
Of course is Adams League.
He'll never get over what he did to me with waivers last year.
It was crazy.
And then the fact that he tried to pass a rule through the message board earlier this year,
he really has taken a lot of liberties that most commissioners would.
All right.
I have a question.
Jamie said, I can't get over what he did to me on waivers.
Yeah.
Dan said, it is crazy.
Dan, what did I do?
I knew it.
I knew it.
I love it.
All right.
Next,
let's go to wrap a podcast question.
Well played.
Dynasty question.
Start one of these tight ends.
Week one.
Holy cow.
Kyle Pitts.
Kyle Pitts, Pat Fryer, Youth, or Jake Ferguson, week one?
Jake Ferguson.
Are we sure we're not going to start Pitts if Moonie's out?
They need to see stuff from pits before I start pits again.
All right.
Here's one from TB1.
What would your strategy be in a league with half a point per pass attempt, one point
per completion, half a point per rush attempt, one point per reception, and that's it.
I have the number one pick, and it's two running backs, three receivers, and a flex.
So you get half a point per pass attempt, one point per completion, but you also get half
get half a point per carry and his PPR?
Half PPR or full PPR?
Full.
Joe Burroughs, one overall.
Yes, I think the first and most important thing is you move up the pocket
quarterbacks who are in offenses that are going to throw a lot.
And you just, first thing you should, I would do, his sort by attempts last year and then
try to adjust for how you think these teams and offenses will adjust or things will change in
2025.
That's on you.
And I can help with that, you know, any of us could help with that.
But you do move down the rushing quarterbacks.
A Justin Fields type loses a ton of value, I think, in this format.
But I also feel like running backs are a lot more valuable than receivers in this format,
despite the one-point reception, because they can still get receptions too,
but they're going to get a half point for every carry.
And they're likely, especially these workhorse running backs,
I would push tons of those guys up the board.
I'd be very running back heavy in this draft.
And it negates the Henry versus A-chan, for example.
Right.
A-chan is still extremely valuable, but like Henry closes the gap.
if not is better than him easily.
Okay.
Question from Schaener.
In a league with novice players
who fill their roster
with each position
before selecting bench spots.
How would you navigate your draft?
Would you draft best player available
and fill your bench
before going with quarterback or tight end?
What would you do?
How would you adjust, Dan, in that situation?
Okay, one more time, say that?
Yeah, in a league with novice players
who fill their roster
with each position before selecting the bench,
how would you adjust?
Yeah.
that's a great question I don't think you have to really adjust or do anything you just have to keep not you your key thing is you don't take the like pass on tight end take a late round tight end pass on quarterback take a late round quarterback because you know those positions are getting filled and they're still going to be players it's 32 start every week and you only have 10 or 12 teams starting one of them per week and you just load up on receivers and running backs that's what I would do please let this be true please oh god it really looks like it it's paper towels paper
Oh, jeez, there's a comment in the chat.
Is that extra?
It doesn't look like paper towels.
It really looks like toilet paper.
You know, let me confirm this just so.
Is that extra toilet paper on your countertop, Dan?
He says it's paper towels.
What do we got?
Paper towel, paper towel.
Oh, that is too bad funny.
Yeah, at some point I'm going to have to figure this background thing out.
I don't have much.
No, this is perfect.
Get the refrigerator magnet's like you talked about.
Okay.
All right.
I think that's it.
Maybe this one.
I think that's it for Apple Podcast.
Do you remember if we read this one?
I'm in a redraft league where you can keep one rookie each year,
and they stay in the same round they were drafted.
No round penalty.
How much earlier do you typically take a rookie in that format?
Would that make someone like Hampton a third round pick?
So he said, here are some rookie keepers that are already locked in.
Malik Neighbors in the 4th, Jaden Daniels in the 9th,
McConkie in the 7th, Brian Thomas Jr. in the 8th,
Knicks in the 13th Bowers in the 9th.
I think in this type of league I'd be, you know,
any decision that I may have.
So like, let's say it's Camara versus Harvey,
Eidleen Harvey.
If it's Tet versus Pickens,
Eidlean McMillan, you know,
or Tet versus...
Jameson Williams?
Yeah, any of those guys
Yeah, all right
Okay, thank you for your question
All right, YouTubers, let's go
Wait, I haven't seen, okay, he's saying
RB is saying
Lamb's schedule to start the season is so difficult
Let's get that schedule out, is it difficult?
Philly week one.
They don't have an easy schedule in general doubt
This is one thing I'm concerned about
And I'm very high on their past game
Other than that
I think
I think this is the right time for me
to make a bold prediction here.
Now, there are some bold predictions
that I actually believe
and will base draft strategy on.
I'll give you two from last year,
one terrible, one good.
One was Chris Godin
will be better than Mike Evans.
One was Derek Henry
will be the biggest bust
than fantasy.
Who said that?
Me.
These are both my,
two of my bold predictions.
And I believed them,
and I drafted that way.
This one I won't,
this one's too bold
that I won't draft this way,
but one of my, like,
I could see it happening,
is Dallas has a terrible year.
They're a mess.
Their offense is not good.
And they basically begin a rebuilding phase.
And this era of good Dallas Cowboys football
is about to be over.
That's an impact fantasy.
How does it impacts everyone in fantasy?
Particularly, Dak.
If they're bad, I feel like they're going to throw a lot.
No, I mean, their offense would be bad
because what I was saying is their offense.
Their offense was something like 20th
and points per game last year when Dak Prescott was healthy.
They were struggling.
People forget that.
Lamb was struggling.
Lamb had that fourth quarter against the 49ers on Sunday night, I think,
and he had a huge game.
But go look at his game log.
I mean, that guy was disappointing for much of the DAC.
Hold out.
Right?
And they just, they have no run game.
Their offensive line looking right now like it's going to be the worst one they've had in a very long time.
Good point.
I just don't like what's going on.
I really don't like to shine.
I don't like to hire.
The only thing I'll push back on is you could be right.
But we could see a lot of garbage time.
And that's why I'm not draft.
Like, they got Pickens.
I think adding Pickens is really good for them.
But, you know, that's why I'm not drafting this way.
If they didn't get pickens, I'd be more on board with your take.
But I think with Pickens and a quarterback like Dak, who's just so good at processing,
that's going to be a really tough stop for defenses.
I hope he's a little bit more mobile than he was last year because he wasn't running and he was getting sacked a lot.
I don't think he'll need to be.
I think part of that was because there was no one but lamb to get the football.
to, and now he has someone else,
and that's going to be really difficult for defenses
to play a safety over the top of both of those players.
All right, well, it was just a thought.
Again, I'm not going to, I'm not going to drive.
It's not a bad thought.
All your points are strong.
Their O-line is the worst it's been.
All right.
And Michael Parsons, you know, what is the status is right now?
Secondary may not be a good.
Yeah.
As much as, like, people pick on the Cowboys,
they've been a very successful team.
Yeah, their expectations are just so high that it feels unsuccessful.
Since they just want to play a lot of them.
Yeah.
Yeah, but since they drafted Romo, they've been probably one of the better teams in football.
They just never got over the hump, but it feels a little precarious right now.
All right, here's a question.
10-team half-PPR Super Flex League.
How many running backs, wide receivers, flex, and bench spots would you set up here in a 10-team half-PPR Superflex league?
Just, oh, the entire?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would say you should have, if you're playing a kicker in defense, you should have quarterback, two running backs,
at least two receivers, if not three.
I will go three in a 10 team league.
One flex, or if you go two receivers, go two flex, super flex, and six bench spots.
Works for me.
Tied in.
Oh, yeah.
14 team, two wide receiver, one flex PPR league.
Sounds like our podcast league.
Should I keep Drake London in the second or late second or Xavier worthy late fifth?
London
London
Kittle or Hertz
at the 3-4 turn
half PPR
12 team
I think Kittal
if Kittal stays healthy
he's going to be
unbelievable in fantasy
so I want to make that clear
I just end a little concerned
with the age and the injury history
This is such a ridiculous comment
Look at this comment from Ben
Cowboys haven't been good in a while.
I told you, expectations are like,
they don't know what it's like to be like a Giants fan, right?
Like, that's a team that hasn't been good in a while.
A Bears fan, yeah, Titans fan.
Those are real, if you were talking about good,
that haven't been good in a while,
that applies to those teams more than the Cowboys.
Yeah, I mean, they haven't won the Super Bowl,
but man, since they drafted Tony Romo, what's their record?
I'm going to look.
I'm going to see if I can figure this.
Definitely over 500.
Way old.
Way old.
How about Adam,
won the tennis match.
I agree with that.
No, he did it.
No, we did.
We lost 6064.
First year, 12-team half PPR,
first year with keepers.
I have the seventh pick.
I'm keeping neighbors in the fifth.
Should I try to trade my second round pick for Bowers?
Keeper League, I'm good with it
because I feel like that's great value
in a keeper league where everyone kind of gets pushed up the board.
Yep.
Yeah, some people pointing out,
Romo was undrafted.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, UDFA, Northern Illinois.
Right, or one of those Illinois.
Congrats, Adam, on winning the tennis match.
Thank you very much.
What is going on with this?
He lost the match.
He lost the first at 6-0.
When you make calls like that, of course I lost.
There were no bad calls.
The marks were all there.
I invite you to come look at the marks, the ball marks.
Three-receiver PPR League from the 12th pick, the dream start is A-chan, Niko.
But if Niko's gone, I'm tempted to go A-chan Genti.
I hate the wide receivers at the three-four turn, so I end up zero-wide receiver.
is running back, running back too risky, and then I need to force someone like Evans at the
three-four turn?
I would prefer H.N. Thomas, St. Brown, Puka, personally.
But, you know, if you feel like, you know, that receiving group, which could be anybody from
JSN, we've seen them fall there, JSN, Garrett Wilson, Mike Evans, you know, then we're starting
to get into the Cortland Sutton, D.K. Metcalf, Marvin Harrison Group.
So it's just really how you feel about those receivers.
I personally in the three receiver league would want to come away with one of those wide receivers in the first round.
First or two runs.
All right.
Keep talking.
I'm doing some math here.
Look, if you do take Genti, you have a pretty strong advantage.
But again, for me, like you're getting a gift for the HM fall into 12.
I would take one of those receivers.
So yes, Nico is a dream start, but I would still lean receiver.
Agreed.
So the Cowboys have averaged nine.
9.3 wins since Romo became the full-time starter in 2007.
That's in the 16 games, a season.
And that includes a 6-10 season when John Kittna was their primary starter.
Yeah, they've had a 2-in-12 season when Matt Castle was their primary starter.
So we're talking about it.
We're talking about it, yeah, yeah, we're talking about a 10-win team when their quarterbacks have been healthy.
They've been wildly successful.
In fact, I...
It's just, you know, people judge it based on playoff success.
I would hilariously say that Jerry Jones is the most underrated GM in football.
Because...
Now you're being ridiculous.
No.
He's not the GM.
Well, their front office is extremely...
Will McLeigh is the guy who's behind the scenes and he does a very good job evaluating talent.
Yeah.
Their front office is extremely underrated.
As silly as they are...
Well, you're right.
Now, all the contract stuff that they have been bungling in the last few years, I can't defend.
But that's mostly because they just have too much talent because they've drafted well.
They've drafted really well.
And not only that, I think they actually, by the way, this is two Giants fans talking like nicely about the Cowboys.
You should take it seriously.
I think they actually started a trend of teams valuing interior offensive linemen and offensive linemen in general, but interior offensive linemen more highly
and realizing that you can build successful teams with those first round picks.
Frederick, Zach Martin this year.
Obviously, they took the kid from Alabama.
I don't know why I'm blanking on his name.
Tyler Guyton.
night uh who did you say
guyton was it no guyton was last year
two years ago um was a kid from alabama the guard
he's the bit he was the strongest player in the class in the interior
i don't know why i can't remember his
kid from albara we love your giant's podcast we love the cowboys
we love the cowboys and yes it has pointed out that in the movie
little giants the cowboys still lost they're damn right they did
great movie one of the very few ones i've seen in my life
and movies that is yeah
like i told you
the story, but I was watching that movie
like a year ago with my son. Oh, this is becoming your tennis match.
Let's go. Finish it. Oh, leave.
I don't care, leave. I was watching
that movie with my son and the Cowboys were winning like
21-0 nothing at halftime, so he decided to start
rooting for the Cowboys, not realizing
the movie was called Little Giants.
What was inevitably going to happen? And he had an absolute
panic attack when the Giants came back
at one. It was crying hysterically.
All right. He learned a lesson
that day. Don't root for the Cowboys. We're Giants
fans in this house. I was really disappointed
yesterday when I went back on the stream and I heard
Dave was a Jets fan.
Like, what is that?
Yeah, at some point I decided to be a Giants fan and not a Jets fan.
It was the best decision ever been about it.
Was your dad a Jets fan?
Not a football fan.
Not a team fan.
Oh, you had to pick your own teams.
That's how this happened.
Not a fan of people.
No.
I love that not a fan of people.
I love the behind the scenes, few stories I've heard about Adam's dad.
He's just quirky.
He's a fan of people.
He's just, he's not a talker.
He's quiet.
I've heard he's grumpy.
He's not grumpy.
He's just quirky.
He used to call him Happy Ron as a,
Clearly not a sarcastic way to call someone who's definitely not drumpy.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we'll talk to you on Monday.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
That's amazing.
Enjoy free season football.
See you later.
