Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag: Garrett Wilson, Zero-RB, Fantasy Cops and More (06/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  If you're going Zero-RB or Zero...-WR, who is the RB or WR to target in Round 5 or later (2:30)? That's our first question as we kick off this Friday mailbag! We've also got a brief Mark Andrews discussion (7:10) and your news and notes (12:10) ... We read your Apple Podcast questions (24:25) about Derrick Henry and Garrett Wilson, then your emails (28:40) as we assess Joe Burrow's value vs. some Round 3-4 RBs, which RBs to draft late if you're looking for a hot start (39:00) and some keeper and dynasty questions ... The Fantasy Cops are back (54:25)! It's been a while, but we're here to settle your league disputes ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 No, I can. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy Friday, everybody. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. Three-day weekend coming up.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Just a reminder, we do not have a show on Monday. We'll be back on Tuesday with a Dynasty episode. I'm Adam Azer with Dan Schneier. We've got a Friday mailbag. We've got the fantasy cops coming on. It's just me and Dan. I've got some exciting, exciting news about our startup Dynasty League and how much money we're raising for St. Jude. And Dan, I'm spreading some good cheer right now. I'm feeling it and ready for the weekend. And what's going on? I'm also in a good mood, Adam. I saw late last night, I think it was like 1137. We had seen that bid for the Dynasty League go all the way up over 3000.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I was like, you know, it feels good to be involved in that. And it also reminded me of two things. One, I'm going to have to take this Dynasty League incredibly seriously. This is now going to become my most important league, even, you know, surpassing my home league, because look, if someone's willing to donate to St. Jude, which is what you're doing here, if you're bidding to be in our dynasty, you're not just going to be playing with Adam, myself, Heath, and others. You're also going to be helping support our cause draft-a-thon for St. Jude. And this is the greatest way to kick this off in my opinion, because, you know, sometimes some of our bigger events are later in the year,
Starting point is 00:03:04 Adam, to do this in June and get this kind of support from our community. It's really good feeling. It's incredible. $3,550. That's what the last spot in the Dynasty League is going for right now. We still have four days left. So if you want in the startup Dynasty League and there is a disclaimer in there, like I said yesterday, that I that, you know, that's the league can be shut down by me any time. We won't let it happen. Adam's claiming that he has power to shut down this league. He doesn't have the kind of power he's claiming he has. That's true.
Starting point is 00:03:32 But I wouldn't worry about that. It's kind of a disclaimer, but it is possible. I can't completely eliminate that, but if you're bidding, I wouldn't be concerned about that. So anyway, all right, let's get into our emails. We have emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We have your Apple podcast questions. Apple podcast, a great way to have your question read on the air right now. Please leave us a five-star review and include in that review to tell everybody why you like it, why you like the show,
Starting point is 00:03:58 and then you can ask a question and we'll get to it on the show most likely. Email of the day is from Eric. And he did the capitalization on that, by the way. From where Evel Knievel attempted to jump the Snake River Canyon. No idea. Arizona. Sure. If you decided to go with a zero RB team or a zero wide receiver team,
Starting point is 00:04:21 who is the last running back or wide receiver that you would feel comfortable drafting as your RB one or wide receiver one call it a 12 team league. Yeah. I like, this is a great question. I think this is a really fun question because a lot of people do try to go out and have some kind of interesting strategy like zero RB or zero wide receiver. I haven't seen zero wide receiver as much or as prevalent as zero RB. I've never tried it myself, but I am intrigued by it. And we'll get to that in a second. So let me start with running back Adam. I think looking at the rankings and looking at where I have my backs, the guy I'd be most comfortable with as my final, you know, this is my guy. This is my dart thrown. Our zero RB strategy is actually Alexander
Starting point is 00:04:59 Madison. So I think when it comes to Madison, his ADP will remain kind of deflated as it is right now, because a lot of this is you look at Madison fantasy managers have seen him for a few years now, Adam, and they're in their minds. He's not that good of a talent in their minds. He's not that good of a player, but ultimately it's a lot more important what the Vikings kind of think about the situation in my mind, at least, right. They extend Alexander Madison. They give him a pretty hefty contract for a running back is a has a very healthy deal and his only competition though. They are talented players that I'm intrigued by are former players who were drafted on day three. Ty Chandler was drafted on day three last year. I loved him. He was one of my favorite sleepers, but how crazy am I going to go about a guy drafted on day three? And then this year, Dwayne McBride, another player who I thought I kind of loved.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And I kind of understand why the Vikings love him for their system. One cut zone runner. But am I going to go crazy about a day three pick Adam who had issues in past production that I'm not sure will be fixed in year one? No. So I like Alexander Madison. But I got to cut you off because. Yeah. When do you think we need to establish zero RB zero wide receiver? What that means?
Starting point is 00:06:00 I think Madison right now, if you look at his his rankings or his ADP. Yeah. You know, it's like round six, but it's moving up. I think he's going to be around four, maybe round five pick. I don't think he's going to make it to round six personally. Okay. And you might be right by the time we get to August that that goes up, but I think it's going to remain in that five, six range because he's just not a name that's hot. But is that your definition for zero RB and zero? That's my definition around six is actually like right around five or six. I either want to start with four,
Starting point is 00:06:28 four receivers and a quarterback or three receivers and a quarterback or three receivers in a tight end or something like that. Yeah. Madison is your answer. I'd be okay. If we're talking around six, I'd be okay with Rashad white. If you're drafting right now,
Starting point is 00:06:42 Dalvin cook might go in that range. I a hundred percent be okay with James Conner. That would be a great pick, I think. I'd be okay with Cam Akers. I think round six is actually a decent round. Look, I don't know what the ADP is going to end up, but I think you can pull that off. I'd be much less likely to wait that long
Starting point is 00:07:00 for a wide receiver. I'd be shocked if I had any drafts where I took a wide receiver, my first one later than round four. But if you wait to round five, those were sneezes, not Dan scoffing at me. If you wait for round five at wide receiver, you know, it could get Jerry Judy, could get Drake London. Chris Godwin. Marquise Brown, if you like him. Christian Kirk.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Round five's a pretty good wide receiver round. Round six, you know, then you're like Traylon Burks, Tyler Lockett, Steelers guys, maybe. I don't think you can wait to round six for wide receiver if you're going zero wide receiver. I don't think you can even wait till round five to be completely honest. And you don't have to,
Starting point is 00:07:46 right? You get three running backs for going zero wide receiver. Now you have a pretty good depth there. Maybe you take a quarterback. Now you're in round five, or maybe you don't. And you start receiver around four, but either way I'm looking for even the guys you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:07:57 Adam, that's not good enough for me. I need, if I'm waiting at receiver like that and going with an extreme zero wide receiver type approach, I need at least one guy I think can get 150 targets. So for me, it's Amari Cooper. That's kind of where I'm at. Or Keenan Allen, who's falling in drafts. And I see him, you know, keep falling in the rankings. Those two guys are really the guys I have my eyes on. Maybe even Chris Alave, though that one's a little
Starting point is 00:08:18 bit more. I'm not so sure the targets are going to be that heavy. DJ Moore is another guy you can throw in there, but more Cooper Allen. I need somebody, I need some target upside there. I did a league where I went sort of zero wide receiver. It's a magazine league. Um, I took McCaffrey second overall Josh Allen in the second round at 23rd overall Mark Andrews at 26th overall in the third round. So my next two picks were DeAndre Hopkins and Marquise Brown. I don't know if I can understand the market. This is a side conversation for another day probably, but I don't know if I can understand. It's just a quick thing I want to get your take on.
Starting point is 00:08:55 To me, one of the weirdest ADPs so far is Mark Andrews because he's, what, you got him, you said, at 25 in this draft? Six. 26. So a top 30 or top 26 type pick. Mark Andrews has had one dominant fantasy season, and now he has Odo Beckham Jr., I guess you may not think as much of a factor,
Starting point is 00:09:15 which is fine, and maybe others don't, and Zay Flowers in the mix. A lot of what made that season so dominant was such a target dominance and such a funneling of targets toward him in that season. Are we sure we're going to get that again? So there will be more targets, I think, without question. No, no. Overall, there'll be more pass attempts for the Ravens without question. When you look at Mark Andrews, it is true that he's only had that one great season and everything
Starting point is 00:09:40 else. He's been more like a fourth, fifth round pick kind of player. But look what he did last year before he got hurt. And look what he did last year before Lamar Jackson got hurt. So I still think he's a terrific pass catching tight end and a major weapon. The clear number two tight end to me. I'm fine taking him in the third round. I don't really put that much stock into Beckham, to be honest with you. I think Andrews is still the best receiver on the team. So that's where I'm at. I've always had trouble buying into Mark Andrews a little bit. Like last year I was out on him and I wasn't, it ended up being a good call because he ended the season so miserably, but I think he was playing hurt and he was playing without Lamar Jackson. So you do have to fudge it a little bit and azer stat it a little bit and look at just what he's done with lamar jackson really
Starting point is 00:10:29 but people do that with lamar jackson and people lamar jackson's only had one great season but you know he's had two seasons where he's left games incredibly early after only a few snaps and killed his per game average and without, he would have been top five. That was in 2021. So people are willing to do that with Lamar Jackson. I'm kind of willing to do it with Mark Andrews. All right. Let me tell you what happened to me this morning, Dan,
Starting point is 00:10:54 because Father's Day is coming up. And I want to wish an early happy Father's Day to everyone. I want to tell you what you can look forward to as a father. So beautiful morning. I sat down. I was the first one up. I was doing some work at the table, at the kitchen table, so I don't have a very big house. And then breakfast was made when the kids got up. And my wife made oatmeal cookies, very healthy, nutritious oatmeal cookies, just basically oatmeal and banana, whatever. So I had one.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It was great. And I've been gaining some weight lately, and I think a lot of dads can relate to this because the kids always leave food. They never finish their food. And there's just chicken fingers and fries and this and that all throughout the day and throughout the week. You can't resist. And this morning was their oatmeal cookies. They ate 80% of it. So I said to my wife, I was like, these are really good. And then I went and I took the leftovers from my
Starting point is 00:11:53 son's plate. And she says, you're not eating Andrew's, are you? And as soon as she said that, I knew exactly what happened. What happened? He chewed that piece, spit it out, put it back on his plate, and I was sitting there eating it for about four or five seconds until she said that. And I was like, oh, my God. Hold on a second. Went over to the garbage, spit it out, went to the sink. You know, I'm in the kitchen sink. You know, I'm rinsing my mouth out. The good news is at least you were at the kitchen sink so you could go right away from spitting it out to brush your teeth because you got a toothbrush handy there at all times.
Starting point is 00:12:28 We know that in the Acer household. But let me just ask you a question here. How in the world were you unable to identify chewed up and spit out cookie versus regular cookie? It was it's a soft, chewy oatmeal. And it's kind of a gooey oatmeal cookie. Even soft cookies have even soft cookies have like a form to them no it was it's like it's like an amoeba cookie it's it's just like this doesn't sound like a cookie anymore it sounds like porridge or something like if you're gonna get confused for
Starting point is 00:12:56 for chewed up and spit out cookie understand there's no sugar in it there's no flour what does that have to do with the form there's no flour in it there's no flour. What does that have to do with the form? There's no flour in it. There's no flour or anything like that. It's just oatmeal. It's just oatmeal and banana. And she did put it in chocolate. As a shape and a form. Okay, we call it a cookie. It's like an oatmeal bite. But no, I couldn't tell because it's a bushy cookie to begin with.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Even if you couldn't tell on sight, the minute you put it in your mouth, you couldn't tell that it had been chewed up and spit out already? No, isn't that bad? Wow. This is unbelievable to me. You needed your wife to be like, thank God she was there to audit you. No, honestly, at that point, she shouldn't even say anything.
Starting point is 00:13:36 She shouldn't just let the what you don't know can't hurt you. Ignorance is bliss. Yes. All right. Well, that's what happened to me this morning. And happy Father's Day to all of the dads out there who have eaten chewed up food before. News and notes, a very sad note. Our condolences to Ray Lewis and family is Ray Lewis, the third. That's the son of the Hall of Fame linebacker has passed away at too young of an age and so sad to see it. to football on the field stuff. Sean Payton says he's optimistic about Javante Williams' progress, which is great. J.K. Dobbins wants more money.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Dan had a hot take about this on Twitter. What do you think about him sitting out wanting a new contract? I mean, read the room, J.K. See, when Barkley can't get a new contract, we got Austin Eckler begging for a raise of like $1.75 million. And J.K. Dobbins,
Starting point is 00:14:23 who has had zero stretches of great play like what he's had some good play and i think he's a better running back than people realize on film but he has no and not in a position right now to be asking for a new contract in this market yeah i gotta get a comment here from the chat from shecky's inadvertently eating previously two children food is a rite of passage for all dads. It is true. The commanders have made some preliminary inquiries on Kareem Hunt, but also Ron Rivera said Antonio Gibson could be a matchup nightmare. Heath said he likes Gibson in the eighth round.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I like Gibson in 10th round, maybe. I don't really like Gibson. I like him a lot in the 8th round. I'm with Heath. Not because of any of these Rivera comments. Just looking at that roster, I just kind of like the idea of Gibson with Biennium. I think, although Scott Turner's offense was very running back friendly,
Starting point is 00:15:20 I think the Biennium offense is going to be just as running back friendly, maybe even more. Yeah, I don't know if they're going to be just as running back friendly, maybe even more. Yeah. All right. I don't know if they're going to throw to the running back, but I don't know. I mean, he's a backup running back,
Starting point is 00:15:31 right? I mean, Brian Robinson, I think is going to lead that team and carries for sure. Maybe I'm overrating it. Cause now I'm thinking about, I'm like, am I really going to trust anyone?
Starting point is 00:15:41 No matter what the scheme is, no matter who's calling the plays, am I going to trust Sam Howell to throw to any of these running backs? He's a running quarterback, Sam Howell, who's probably going to be a first-read quarterback, too. Maybe I'm not as comfortable anymore. You've kind of talked to me. I don't want to talk. I think it's reasonable.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I think it's reasonable in the eighth round. I wasn't a big Gibson fan to begin with because I didn't think he was a good... I mean, beginning a couple years ago, I'd say after his rookie season. Completely agree. The guy's not that good of a running back.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Remember some people pushed him up to the round one, two turn after that year? Yes, crazy. That was craziness. He wasn't even a running back in college. He was a wide receiver. How much of that first season was also just concentrated on how many touchdowns he had.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. I feel like there weren't that many big plays. It's mostly just touchdown. Um, I did want to, uh, talk about Sam Howell just briefly. You call them a rushing quarterback.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And did you see his college stats? Look, it is three years in college where he's awesome. No, but it, his, uh, freshman year,
Starting point is 00:16:44 he ran for 35 yards. Okay, what about the years after? His sophomore year, he ran for 146 yards. Okay. His junior year, he ran for 828 yards and 11 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I don't know that he's a rushing quarterback. I mean, I know he's capable of doing it, but I... If you watch that season, you'd know that he could be a rushing quarterback. If Daniel Jones is considered
Starting point is 00:17:04 a rushing quarterback, then Sam Howell is a rushing quarterback. But look at him two years before that as a starter. He had a combined 181. All right, but I'm saying, okay, give me a guess. If he plays 17 games, how many rushing yards for Sam Howell? If he plays 17 games, I'm thinking he's going to get between 550 and 600 rushing yards. Wow, that would be a big deal.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I was thinking more like 350. What else we got? Buffalo wide receiver Trent Shurfield having a standout spring, according to The Athletic, and I think the only thing that resonates there with me is that it might not be great news for Khalil Shakir. Rashad White. Oh, no, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Not Rashad White. Sorry. I'm blanking on the name of the other White who is on the Raiders. Oh, wow. Now I'm blanking on his name too. The rookie from last season, Lendell, not, no. Yeah, Lendell White.
Starting point is 00:17:56 No, not Lendell White. Why am I forgetting this dude's name from Georgia? The kid from Georgia. Zemir White. Zemir White, yes. Zemir White could have a bigger role this season, according to The Athletic, even if Josh Jacobs signs his contract.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Jacobs had 340 carries last year. The second most by a running back was 17. And there was another note about Taysom Hill being used everywhere, and Hill saying he wanted to be more involved as a receiver. And I don't know. Do you have any thoughts about that?
Starting point is 00:18:26 I was wondering, do you think, does Taysom Hill, I do believe that he holds down the upside of whoever the starting running back is, whether it's Camara or if he's suspended for however long, Jamal Williams or the rookie Kendrick Miller or whoever. Do you think Taysom Hill holds down the value of Chris Olave at all? No, not whatsoever. And I know we've heard stuff like this in the past. Last year, the conversation was,
Starting point is 00:18:51 is Taysom Hill going to hold back the quarterbacks because he's going to play some quarterback in the red zone and take away some of their stats? That didn't really happen the way people thought it might. So I'm going to say no on that front, Adam. Yeah, I didn't mean it in the sense that he's going to be a receiver i just meant in the sense that are they going to throw the ball so few times inside the 10 yard line because of tasem hill and and the rest of their running game it really just depends how
Starting point is 00:19:18 fast in my opinion car meshes with alave and i think that could be a fast situation we saw last year car was really aggressive on the vertical plane with Devante Adams. And that's a big reason why Devante Adams had such a good season in his first year in Vegas. And a lot of people were skeptical of that. That could be a lava again, like a lava is a winner on the vertical.
Starting point is 00:19:35 He wins against press man coverage often and early as a vertical receiver. So I'm not as concerned there. Okay. I have a quick question for you though. This is interesting fantasy kind of spin-off you just mentioned a really interesting stat about how josh jacobs how all the other raiders running backs we were trying to figure out samir white's name from georgia all the raiders running back i can't believe that happened 17 you said 17 carries and jacobs had 340 no no no the second highest was
Starting point is 00:19:59 second highest was probably had about 50 to 60 right you know so 17 yeah but second highest was probably had about 50 to 60, right? You know, so 17. Yeah. But second highest was 17 carries. Jacob's at three 40. How many other, or this is probably for another time. I mean, unless you can come off the top of your head, but how many other situations have we seen like this where we couldn't have been more wrong and everything kind of changed when it came to coaching tendency projections? Cause we projected that this is Josh McDaniels coming over to Vegas. He's coming from new England. We know the new England Patriots way. That means the running backs are getting
Starting point is 00:20:28 spread out carries. We're never going to be able to trust who's on the goal line. We're seeing different running backs every week. They're going to use five or six running backs, Josh Jacobs, like how, like how many other situations were like that? And what, what can we learn from that? Right? Because that to me was one of the biggest misses for me in last fantasy season, just thinking Josh Jacobs, where's the upside coming from in a new England style, you know, coaching fit where, you know, you're going to get different running backs every week and have no real way to trust them. Yeah. I don't believe in coaching. Okay. Well, no, I did. First of all, Josh McDaniels said he was going to use multiple guys and I think he intended to,
Starting point is 00:21:04 but it never materialized. However, I would point out, and I have pointed out many times, that this idea that the Patriots never had a workhorse running back is a faulty one. They did. They did with Steven Ridley. They did with LeGarrette Blount. They have at other times. Now, they've never had a three-down back like they did with Ramondre Stevenson last year. They've never had that workhorse.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And actually, Stevenson wasn't really necessarily the third down back. He just caught a lot of passes on first and second down. All but about nine to 12 of his catches were on first and second down. They've never had that. But they have just given a guy the ball and let him, you know, run a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:43 So I didn't think Jacobs would have that kind of workload because they weren't talking him up like that. But I am a big believer that... I'm a big believer in personnel over coaching background. For example, the conversation we had about the Washington tight ends last year, the Giants tight ends, I don't really think there's anything that we can say,
Starting point is 00:22:07 oh, oh, Mike Kafka, Eric Biannimi came from Travis Kelsey. They're going to get the tight end involved. The Giants are going to get the tight end involved because they have Darren Waller. You know, Daniel Bellinger wouldn't have a big role in the passing game. I don't believe that a wide receiver, for example, can't be great on a Doug Peterson team because he loves his tight end so much. When he was the Eagles point of the offense so any coach worth his salt is going to get his best players the ball and not be rigid to some type of system and maybe that's the lesson here like follow the personnel because even that's a good example of doug peterson i mentioned it yesterday when we were talking
Starting point is 00:23:00 bust like before last season when etn had almost 250 touches a doug peterson back hadn't had more than 200 touches in all but one season and he was barely over 200 and last year it was travis etn and basically nothing in that backfield from a personnel talent standpoint so he had to adjust so i think that's probably a good way to look at it because maybe that we lean too heavily on what mcdaniels was saying the fact that josh jacobs played in that preseason game that everyone went crazy about when you look around the roster and it was just like Zemir White and Amir Abdullah and guys like that as his competition. Exactly. And you know, that brings up a good point about Javante Williams. It's complicated, obviously, by the ACL injury and the Samaj P. Ryan role. But
Starting point is 00:23:40 this one, you know, this is a long history. Sean Payton has really never had a workhorse back until his last season as head coach. The most carries in a season by any Sean Payton running back with the Saints was 244 by Deuce McAllister in 15 games in Payton's first season as head coach. However, Alvin Kamara did have 240 carries in only 13 games uh in 2021 so but but but peyton is a guy like that i believe that one a little bit more that is a guy thinking about the 2021 season though because that's another good example of that i remember if i was correct that year they really didn't have good competition around camara they didn't have murray on that roster i think after that they traded for Mark Ingram and then signed him to an extension because
Starting point is 00:24:27 I feel like they felt like they had to rely a little too much on Camara in ways that he didn't want to there, Peyton. Yeah, so I'll buy into that one a little bit more because I think Samajai Piran is certainly capable of coming off the bench and being a good backup running back that has a nice role. But I always buy
Starting point is 00:24:43 into personnel more than coaching schemes personally. All right, we'll take a break. We But I always buy into personnel more than the coaching schemes personally. All right, we'll take a break. We got your Apple podcast questions. We got the fantasy cops. We got your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. All that's coming up right after this. What does possible sound like for your business? It's having the spend that powers your scale
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Starting point is 00:25:56 All right, here we go. Apple podcast questions. This one is from Tyler. Would you rather keep Derek Henry in the first round or Brian Robinson in the 12th round? I'm leaning Robinson. I'm also with Ian Robinson there, Adam. Keep that first round pick open and available to you.
Starting point is 00:26:10 I know it's not as valuable in a keeper league, so maybe this is kind of putting Derek Henry at value because we see him going in our drafts right now that we're doing with our fantasy team in the back end around two, around there usually, maybe a little earlier sometimes. So I think you have a better chance of value with Robinson. This one is from, I don't know, Ty. Okay, so this is Ty calling me out. Oh, yeah. Now listen, man.
Starting point is 00:26:37 This is what I – this is something that I – I'm surprised this email got squeaked in. Oh, no. If you put it in Apple Podcasts, you know, it's a good chance. But a good chance to be read. But I don't mind people calling me out for things I say. I hate when people call me out for things I didn't say. And this happened earlier this week. I think it was on Monday when I made my comment about Saquon Barkley and $10 million. And people started saying the most ridiculous things to me, anti'm an anti-worker and like this and that,
Starting point is 00:27:06 like getting all philosophical about it. I'm like, dude, all I said was $10 million in one year is a pretty good fallback, right? It's a pretty good worst case scenario. But anyway, let's read this email because you were on the show, the Dynasty episode, where we talked about creating our league and the rules and the regulations.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So Ty says, Heath is great with his dynasty values. Adam has no idea what a modern dynasty league looks like. I really try not to throw the shade at him as he catches a lot, but the last episode of the dynasty show, Adam showed how in the dark he is. Didn't want super flex or tight end premium. Folded to both in the end. No third down, no third round reverse wanted kickers and DST didn't want to collect two years of dues. And that was it. So he called me out on, on a lot of different items there.
Starting point is 00:27:54 He said, I didn't want super flex or tight end premium. He's wrong. I did want super flex and we have a super flex league. I don't want tight end premium though. He said, I folded to both in the end. He's wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I did not fold on tight end premium. He said I did not want a third round reverse. He's correct about that. I don't like it at all. He said I wanted kickers and DST. Incorrect. I never had kickers in there. I did have a DST, though, and we removed it.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And he said I didn't want to collect two years of dues. I said I'd bring it up with the league. So if you're going to call me out, that's fine. Let's be a little bit more accurate with what you're calling me out on. And I went back, by the way, and I listened to that show today to fact check this guy. And you were about 30% correct in your comments. Yeah, I mean, look, I'm with the guy, though.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I agree with him on all. Not with you. Okay, let me clarify. I agree with all the ideas that he had i like the round reversal in this i do think that you making it super flex makes it a little fair though and you don't need it as much but uh defenses that was that was never going to make that was never going to make the cut there adam dsd that's fine uh but i also want to say that i think one of the reasons why people like ty and all the people on Monday when I said the Barkley thing misquote me is Dan because Dan lies about me.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Dan lies about me all the time. You know, he had this perpetuates this. No, I have one quote unquote lie that I say about you that if I really put the time in and dug back up that draft, I'm pretty sure you went Milesaskin and mike davis back to back and then said if i'm getting them in rounds four or five i remember this clearly if i'm getting them this deep in rounds five or six this is why the running back dead zone's overrated it was like this whole rant about how the running back dead zone's overrated if they fall far enough it's still fine and you were like pounding running backs you had like four or five miles gaskins i don't know if it was exactly mike davis never in fact, for a fact, Miles Gaskins was on that roster.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Okay, you're talking about I took him in a mock draft or something like that. No, it was a listener league or something. Oh, no, come on. Also, Richard says, when has Adam ever learned? And Richard, did you hear my cookie story earlier in the show? I definitely learned from that. I'm going to check before I eat anything off my kid's plate from now on. Last one from Tyler, Apple podcast question here from that. I'm going to check before I eat anything off my kid's plate from now on. Last one from Tyler. Apple Podcast question
Starting point is 00:30:07 here from Tyler. So we all agree that Garrett Wilson is going to have a breakout season. Would it be ridiculous to take him at the back end of the first round in a redraft league? I don't think it's ridiculous to ever go get your guy if you see the path toward wide receiver one
Starting point is 00:30:23 status and maybe not wide receiver one, but in the sense of like overall, but top five, top six, I just don't necessarily know if I agree as wholeheartedly with everyone else that Garrett Wilson is that big of a lock for a breakout. I think there's issues and concerns with me with the schedule there. The jets are facing a really difficult schedule this season.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I think there's concerns with just Aaron Rodgers being the same quarterback he was. I still think he throws the ball just like he did. I'm not sure if he sees the field the same way he did. He didn't look like he did last year. There could be reasons for that. Those reasons could be gone this year. But then the third big factor for me, and this is always going to be part of my analysis, it's something I believe in.
Starting point is 00:31:01 That offensive line scares the hell out of me with the Jets. I don't really understand what they did at tackle. They're bringing back a 38 year old to play left tackle. Who's had injuries basically every year of his career in the last five or so. And then they're bringing back McKay Beckton on the other side. It's like McKay Beckton. That dude just had a major knee surgery, never really had any stretch of games. And it's a big, I just putting a lot of weight on that knee.
Starting point is 00:31:23 It just seems concerning to me, Adam, that they're just have two tackles, a tackle situation there that could get really bad. Yeah, they can. Becton's going to play right tackle, it seems, which he doesn't really want to do, but he is at least in good shape. You know, he's always had weight issues.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Right now he's in good shape. The line doesn't really bother me for a wide receiver. I, you know, I think it's just about targets and all that, but the line would bother me for a quarterback and maybe for a running back, but not necessarily a receiver. What do you think happened with the Chargers last year? That would be my question for you, because a lot of people just say, it's Lombardi, it's Lombardi, it's Lombardi. No, but Keenan Allen was terrific.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Keenan Allen was terrific last year. That's my point. But they had no vertical pass game, and Justin Herbert also hurt from that. Mike Williams was good enough. I mean, Mike Williams was his usual inconsistent self, but he was good enough. I mean, Mike Williams was his usual inconsistent self, but he was good enough. There was a stretch of like four or five games when that offensive line was really at its worst
Starting point is 00:32:10 where they couldn't do anything. They couldn't even drop back on a three or five step drop and get the ball out. I mean, look, I know I might be overrating offensive line play, but if it gets to a point where it's really bad, it does impact the pass game. So the question was, can you take Garrett Wilson at the back of the first round of a redraft league?
Starting point is 00:32:28 That's a little rich for me, but I think the middle of the second round is fine. Maybe even a little. You know, you're talking about the difference between three or four picks, but you're also talking about CeeDee Lamb, Stefan Diggs, Devante Adams, maybe Tony Pollard, maybe Nick Chubb in a half PPR league. I'd take Wilson in a full PPR, but that's a big deal, the difference between pick 12 and pick 16. So I'm not there.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Another thing I want to point out is that Garrett Wilson had a really good rookie season, right? But he wasn't a top 30 receiver per game. So he had 83 catches, 1,103 yards, four touchdowns. That's not a great, especially on 147 targets. It's not a great rookie season. If you look at the year two wide receivers since the Beckham draft, that was 2014. So year two wide receivers since 2015
Starting point is 00:33:21 that have been amazing in their second season it's beckham justin jefferson both those guys had rookie seasons that were a million times that was so much better than garrett wilson because consider beckham had only 12 games as a rookie right um juju smith schuster had a 1400 yard second season and the other guy i would throw in there is dk metcalf and that would be the best comp because Metcalf was only at 900 yards as a rookie. And then he had a 1300 yard 12 touchdown season or something like that. He was wide receiver 6
Starting point is 00:33:51 as a sophomore. So Wilson doesn't compare to those guys in terms of what he did as a rookie, especially if you look at yards per target. However, he does compare very favorably in terms of yards per target and overall numbers to Jalen Waddell and Amandra St. Brown. And both of them had terrific second seasons. Both of them, however, did not produce throw it out there for the audience to keep it in context that if you're talking about Garrett Wilson as a first round pick, he did not have the rookie seasons that specifically Beckham and Jefferson had, not even close.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And that's what you're looking for from a second season if you're thinking about taking him in the first round. And let's say you are taking him in the first round. You need to, in your mind, think of a clear path to how he gets to that wide receiver one status. So it's either through a funneling of targets like we saw with davante adams and aaron rogers in the past or a big red zone role or a big play ability like you mentioned justin jefferson and odell beckham they may not be the biggest uh red zone threats but they are all they were at
Starting point is 00:34:56 least at that point in his career with beckham huge big play threats they were making like that's not something that we saw often with gar Wilson last year. Right. All right. Let's go to our emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This one is from Mike. He says, hey, Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Oh, that's tough, Dan. It happens. I have a question about what running backs you take in rounds three and four over certain quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:35:24 OK, which running backs would you draft ahead of Joe Burrow? Would you draft Ramondre Stevenson, Najee Harris, Brees Hall, and Joe Mixon ahead of Joe Burrow? So I think this question is a good example, Adam, of why fantasy football is so fun and why we love it and why we keep coming back to it. If you asked me this question two years ago, I'd be like, I would never take Joe Burrow over any of these players. I wait at quarterback and one QB leagues. I don't even consider one until rounds nine or 10, but nowadays you have to consider quarterback early because there is a massive gap
Starting point is 00:35:57 between the top six quarterbacks last season. And then even that seven through 12 range versus especially the 12 and on range, And you're getting an edge there. So nowadays, out of those running backs, Adam, I might be taking Burrow over all them right now. Because I feel like Burrow is, does, at least for me, represent. How can you say that? You just took Stevenson yesterday or earlier this week. You took him over Josh Allen. And then you got Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:36:22 But that was also because of what was left at quarterback. That's kind of how the draft went a different way like in this the way this that he sets this up it seems like running backs are kind of falling the quarterbacks are going fast the big quarterbacks that you want and it's almost like burrow is the last of a tier so burrow is the first of a tier for me when you talk about these running backs stevenson naji harris breeze hall joe mixon i mean, I'll take Stevenson over him for sure. I would take the top three quarterbacks over all four of these guys. Okay. I would take at least some of them over Joe Burrow. I just had a draft, my first real draft of the year on Monday. And I took Burrow in the fourth round,
Starting point is 00:37:00 one pick before Najee Harris went. The other guys, Mixon was on the table. Mixon was still available for a while, actually. He got picked later that round. So I took Burrow over Najee Harris and Joe Mixon. I know I would keep doing that with Harris. I would take Burrow over Harris. Okay. I would not take Burrow over Stevenson or Hall as of now.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And Mixon, I mean, Mixon is potential first-round value. It's so funny. We just don't know how to value him right now. But if he just has the same role he had last year, he could not be that good of a player and still be one of the true must-start running backs of fantasy.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I imagine I will have Mixon ahead of Burrow as long as he's on the Bengals in a month. But the thing is, if Ion ahead of Burrow as long as he's on the Bengals in a month. But the thing is, if I can't get Burrow, it might mean that I'm also going to miss my chance to get Fields or Jackson. I like Trevor Lawrence enough as a fallback that if I didn't get Burrow
Starting point is 00:37:59 and I really wanted a quarterback, then I would probably just make sure I got Trevor Lawrence. I don't feel as confident about Lawrence. I think he's a full tier below Burrow for me. He is, but in this case, you're passing on Burrow. You're in theory getting two more picks in rounds
Starting point is 00:38:15 three and four or four and five or something. And then hopefully you're landing Lawrence in round six or seven. I don't even know where Trevor Lawrence is. Also, when you start to rely on that, now you're relying on one guy to follow you. That's always risky business. Well, Lawrence went around eight in this draft and Burrow went around four.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So if there's going to be that big of a gap, I'll take the gap there. All right, next question from Bearclaw of the Berkeley Clarions Vintage Baseball Team in Berkeley, California. Nice. Dear Martin, Rosa, Frederick, and Malcolm. No idea.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I feel like I have to know this. You have to know? Yeah, I feel like this is made for you, this question. Martin, Rosa, Frederick, and Malcolm. What is that? Oh, these are black history figures, I believe. Okay, now I get it. I was thinking pop culture there.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah. Should I keep Kelsey at pick 203, 15th overall, or A.J. Brown at pick 310, 34th overall, half PPR? For me, this is a clear answer, and it's Travis Kelsey. You're talking to one of the biggest Travis Kelsey enthusiasts in the game, been this way for two or three straight seasons now. I've always said he should be a top half of round one pick. He never has been.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Now he finally is. I see him going regularly in our mocks, fifth or sixth overall. I think that's where he should be, so you're getting pretty good value here. There. AJ Brown to me is not as much of a lock. Injuries have been a problem in the past. I have a personal guess that Devante Smith has a shot to outproduce him this year. I really liked Devante Smith, but with Kelsey, you know, the targets are there. You know, the red zone role is there. You know, the weekly advantage is there at tight end. As long as he stays healthy. I agree with you on Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:40:08 And he asked, who should I take in rounds one and three, running back or wide receiver? I mean, round one, you go best running back or wide receiver available. He mentioned Diggs and Adams could be there. I don't think Diggs and Lamb are reaches in round one at 10th overall, personally. I took Tony Pollard 10th overall. And then I took Diggs in round 2
Starting point is 00:40:25 in a recent draft and then see who's available, just take best player available don't overthink it, don't go in with a set plan thank you very much for the question this is from Brad in Traverse City, Michigan I am in a
Starting point is 00:40:41 three keeper league and I am keeping Josh Jacobs and Brees Hall I'm targeting a later round running back or two I am keeping Josh Jacobs and Brees Hall. I'm targeting a later-round running back or two that would be a good fit to start the season while Hall eases back into a regular workload, or even Jacobs starts slow due to a possible holdout. I'm looking at Rashad Penny, Samaj P. Ryan, and Jamal Williams. Are there any other late-round running backs
Starting point is 00:41:02 that could get off to a hot start for three to four weeks, even if they later lose their job to someone else? Yeah, I think David Montgomery is an interesting one because I think as we get further and further through this draft season into August, his ADP is going to keep dropping and dropping and dropping because all the Jameer Gibbs hype from training camp is going to pop right up. But they signed David Montgomery to a really lucrative contract relative to the running back market, of course. And he's still a running back who has done really well when it comes to force miss tackles. Uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:32 the things I look for as far as projecting advanced metrics are one force McTackles and two yards after contact per attempt. He's good in both regards. He's been good in the red zone. He can do stuff in the passing game as well. So I think David Montgomery is a really interesting one. I wouldn't be surprised if we are in week three, Adam or week four, and we're on a show and we're like, what's happening with Jameer Gibbs? What do we do with Jameer Gibbs? And he doesn't have as big a role as people think as a rookie. And David Montgomery is kind of more of even like a work, a borderline workhorse there. It's just a kind of a, something I've been tossing around in my head all year, Adam. I think it has
Starting point is 00:42:02 a potential upside there. Another guy I might throw in the mix there would be A.J. Dillon. I think there's a possibility that could be a more run-heavy offense than we think with a big emphasis in the red zone on the run game, and A.J. Dillon could be leading the way there. And Samadji Piran is definitely up there for me as well. The guys he mentioned, Penny, Piran, and Jamal Williams, I'm not super sure about Rashad Penny. Me either. I could see Penny being almost unstartable
Starting point is 00:42:29 because Swift is going to work in the passing game and get some carries. And Jalen Hurts runs the red zone. I could see him averaging like five and a half yards per carry, but having a lot of 12 carry. I could see him being like Gus Edwards. Yep. A little better than that.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Obviously, I could be wrong, so I don. Yep. A little better than that. No, obviously I could be wrong. So I don't think he's a bad player to pick. You mentioned Jamal Williams. I would, I would also put Kendry Miller in there. Yes. Y'all know how I feel about Jamal.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I'd rather Kendry Miller than Jamal Williams. Yeah. I don't know about that because if you're talking about Camara suspended for six games or something like that, right. Who's getting the week one week two carries. I think that probably Jamal Williams, the seasoned veteran, gets the first chance.
Starting point is 00:43:10 But I wouldn't rule out Miller. Let's go to the next question here. Sorry. This is from Connor from Halifax, Nova Scotia. 10-team PPR, three flex, super flex as well. Okay. He wants to know if he should trade for Joe burrow and go all in to win this year.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So his main quarterback is Justin fields, but his super flex is Trey Lance with Sam Howell and CJ Stroud on the bench. So he could use an upgrade there. But he would have to give up Trey Lance, Devante Adams, and a 2025 first roundae Adams, and a 2025 first round pick. Lance
Starting point is 00:43:48 Adams and a 2025 first round pick to get Joe Burrow and a 2024 second round pick. Yeah, I was looking through your roster because you also put it out there, or it's in the email. And I was thinking about this trade, Adam. So I assume this is a
Starting point is 00:44:04 dynasty league. it's not made clear by this but i feel like it has to be um just based on his context i think for me i'm taking the swing at the quarterback upgrade i just value quarterbacks so highly in dynasty and i just think the difference of the asset in dynasty of a joe burrow and a super flex versus an older davante adams is so much greater than the first-round pick versus the second-round pick. So to me, it makes this a slam-dunk trade that I would just do right away before he takes it off the table.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Absolutely. Great call. Completely agree. Take another break. We got more emails, and we got the fantasy cops after this. All right, this email comes from Sal, and Sal's in a 12-team half PPR, one quarterback league.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Assuming both are there at 1.7 in my rookie draft, do you think Anthony Richardson or Dalton Kincaid is a better fit? He has Kyler, Carr, and Purdy. He has Chigokonkwo, Hayden Hurst, and Irv Smith. So would you take Richardson or Kincaid at 1.7? It's a one QB league. Yeah. So one QB league changes things up, but I'm still going with Richardson at 1.7. I feel less confident. Richardson is going to be an asset in fantasy football three to five years
Starting point is 00:45:13 from now than Dalton Kincaid is because his game to me seems very certain. And he has Josh Allen for at least five years of his career. But with that said, looking at your quarterback situation, despite it being a one qb league you could use the potential here for an immediate hit at quarterback like anthony richardson has potential to be a quarterback one in fantasy football right away i think jamie has him as high as eighth in his quarterback rankings already he's super excited about him so to me i'll take
Starting point is 00:45:40 the swing and maybe getting a league winning quarterback pick especially when i don't have a lot of strength at my roster at quarterback over kind of a player I feel more certain about a tight end. I've got to take that. Everyone's going to hate me for. Oh, in a, by the way,
Starting point is 00:45:53 I agree with you. I'd take Richardson over Kincaid. Okay. In a dynasty league, Anthony Richardson is not my number one rookie quarterback. It's Bryce young. I feel like Bryce Young is so underappreciated because he's small.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I think he's a terrific quarterback. So you're talking, hold on. So for Dynasty, you're talking for Dynasty. Dynasty, Dynasty rookie quarterback. I don't hate this because I think there's a chance that sometimes people overrate in Dynasty or underrate how important longevity is in Dynasty. And there's a chance that sometimes people overrate in dynasty or underrate how important longevity is in dynasty. And there's a chance Anthony Richardson just might not work at the NFL level. He was not a productive quarterback at Florida. He's, you know, he has issues with
Starting point is 00:46:34 mechanics. It worked with Josh Allen. It doesn't work with everyone, but Bryce young, I feel pretty confident is going to be that quarterback style player that as long as he doesn't get a lot of injuries, we'll be in the league for a while. So I don't hate this take. I wouldn't do it because I'm always swinging for upside and I want the league winning picks. You know that about me, but, and I don't really see it with Bryce young unless they really build an,
Starting point is 00:46:52 an arsenal of weapons around him, like Jamar chase and, and T Higgins, like the bangles did there. But I don't hate the take. Yeah. So first of all, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:01 Richard says, OMG, this young call. I had a friend who called Leaf over Manning just saying. So that's completely different because Bryce Young was drafted ahead of Anthony Richardson. And even Jim Ursae, the owner of the Colts who drafted Anthony Richardson, like a month or two before that said, oh, that quarterback from Alabama looks pretty good. Right?
Starting point is 00:47:20 So Bryce Young was the number one pick in the draft. If he were six foot two, we wouldn't be having this discussion, I don't think. You know, we'd be talking about him. We'd still be having this discussion because of Richardson's rushing upside. Maybe. Maybe. But my point is, in a redraft league,
Starting point is 00:47:34 yeah, I'm taking Richardson over Young. In a dynasty league, if you've got, you know, 101, I'm taking Bijan, you know, but if you've got an early pick, you don't want to screw that up. And Richardson could fail, right? Like you said, he, he could just fail spectacularly. I don't think he will. I think he's going to be good. I think they're going to figure it out. It might take some time, but we've just seen these NFL coaches do well with these projects. And so I believe in
Starting point is 00:48:01 that, but in a dynasty league, I'd be hesitant to put that patience in and deal with struggles because I do think it's going to be a bit of a struggle for Richardson at first. And Young, I just think Young has become an underrated prospect at this point. For God's sake, he was incredible in college and he was the number one pick in the draft.
Starting point is 00:48:22 He's just small. That's the only thing I think that you can take away from him. And he was incredible in college, and he was the number one pick in the draft. He's just small. That's the only thing I think that you can take away from him. And he was incredible in college with the worst set of receiving weapons that Alabama's had in the last five years. This was the only draft where you can remember where Alabama had no weapons, no skill players drafted anywhere except for Jameer Gibbs, obviously. All right. So I did say that after the draft, but it's been a while.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's been a while since I've brought that up, but I do still feel that way. I mean, I just, because I was reading an article about Bryce Young yesterday, and so far I would expect this to be the case, but so far it's rave reviews, and they love him, and they love his makeup, and this and that. And I think he's flying under the radar in a dynasty standpoint, believe it or not, even though he was the number one pick in the draft. And I like that he's Frank Reich the radar in a dynasty standpoint, believe it or not, even though he was the number one pick in the draft. And I like Ms. Frank Reich. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And they'll be in the position to add weapons, you know, as early as next year. Right. From T-Bob in the actual Holmes... Ooh, is that true? Did they give up next year's first round pick to trade up? What? Oh, the Panthers?
Starting point is 00:49:23 They did give up next year's first round pick. Okay, might have to revisit that. But that Oh, the Panthers. They did give up next year's restaurant back. Yeah. Okay. Might have to revisit that, but it doesn't change my opinion from T Bob in the actual home state of the jets and giants and Dan Schneider, the great state of New Jersey. So I'm one of the most underrated,
Starting point is 00:49:37 the most underrated state gets a horrible rap because of dumb things like Jersey shore. These people weren't even from the Jersey shore. They're not from New Jersey, I should say. I think one of them was. Listen, come to New Jersey and here's what you're going to get. Great food, great people, beaches, mountains if you like to hike, 20 minutes proximity to New York City. What can go wrong there?
Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah. Besides the high taxes and incredible cost of living here. All right. One QB, 10am PPR Dynasty League. I gave up Jerry, Judy, and Deshaun Watson for Jalen Waddle in a Dynasty League. 10-team PPR Dynasty League, I gave up Judy and Watson.
Starting point is 00:50:17 It's a 1QB league for Waddle. Yeah, 1QB, 10-team deshawn watson's value plummet quarterbacks are just not as valuable in 10 team leagues not as valuable in one qb leagues so it's kind of the classic two for one upgrade here in my opinion as long as you're in a spot where you can feel okay at quarterback without watson on your team and i think you are so i like it i like making the upgrade here to get waddle and the other other trade was George Pickens for Damian Pierce. He gave up George Pickens for Damian Pierce in a PPR dynasty league. It's another trade.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I really like, I think George Pickens is an interesting talent. I think he's going to be tied to Kenny Pickett for too long in his career. So you and I have a Dan and a, we have a Don, I think, and a Dave problem. There's that guy,
Starting point is 00:51:03 Don Saxby. Is that his name? Who hates me? Calls me numb nuts all the time, right? I have another guy who hates me. There's that guy, Don Saxby. Is that his name who hates me? Calls me numbnuts all the time, right? I have another guy who hates me. What's his name? Yeah, Dave. And Dave is here.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Dave what? Dave Zarnik. And he's killing you. Oh, this guy hates me, man. He's killing you right now. He shows up on every show just to kill me, this guy Dave. Stop putting Dan on. Never has any reason for it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 He just hates me. Dan is all about himself. I'm all about myself. I don't care about myself. I know. Crazy comment. Now, even though Dave did go on to say Adam is the goat, so I can't be too... Adam is
Starting point is 00:51:31 a goat. That's without question. But Dave, you really are wrong about Dan. I'm not all about him. If you think Dan's all about yourself... Actually, now he's saying hashtag Adam for president. I'm kind of on Dave's side now, but if I were being, it kills me,
Starting point is 00:51:46 man. If you look at one of the scariest things to do in this business is look at the comments anywhere. Um, especially then I've seen Dave come at me hard all the time. It's just a meeting. Just not YouTube. YouTube is where self of self-esteem goes to die.
Starting point is 00:52:01 It does. I think Dave is a fake name and this kid probably went to high school with Dan, and he's jealous of his job. Yeah, there we go. Thomas always has my back. Notice this throughout my tenure here. Thomas is a big guy. Thomas is like my number one guy in my corner.
Starting point is 00:52:14 He's got everyone's back. Thomas, have we increased the bid yet on the Dynasty spot, or is it still $3,500? Hey, Dave, go bid on our eBay store, Dave. Do something productive with your time. It's still the same. Okay. Hey, Dave said on our eBay store, Dave. Do something productive with your time. It's still the same. Okay. Dave said he just wanted a shout-out.
Starting point is 00:52:28 That's all. He knew if he ripped you that he'd get a shout-out. So job well done. Easy way to get in. All right. This one is from Sam in Calgary. Dear Daryl, Kenny, Jim, and Rich. These feel like quarterbacks to me.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Daryl, Kenny, Jim, and Rich. Oh, yeah. Oakland Raiders quarterbacks? I, but Darryl, Kenny, Jim and Rick. Oh yeah. Oakland Raiders quarterbacks. I don't know who the Darryl is. That's not just, that was bad. Darryl LaMonica.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Darryl LaMonica. When they all get one of these, right? No, you probably won't, but, but Dave will. I've had a few,
Starting point is 00:53:00 I've had like two or three total. Um, all right, here's question is not a lot. Hit the wrong button on my laptop. Okay. I have a dynasty question. PPR, tight end premium. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:13 One QB and a super flex. Okay. So it's tight end premium and super flex and it's PPR. I was offered Waddle and Friar Muth for pitts kendry miller and a 2024 second round pick um i think it's a decent offer if i'm trying to contend but i think i should be trying to get picks okay he thinks he's not quite a contender so should he try to get more i think this is a great trade he gives up kyle pitts and a secondround pick in 2024 for Waddle, Friar Muth, and Kendri Miller. Well, Kendri Miller was like,
Starting point is 00:53:50 you can almost look at it like the Kendri Miller and the 2024 pick cancel themselves out a little bit. Kendri Miller was a mid-second-round pick in most rookie drafts. You're probably looking at a mid-to-late second-round pick here with your second-rounder if you're going for it. I just have a big issue, Adam, with trading Kyle Pitts and Dynasty. If I have Kyle have kyle waddle i get it i'd rather
Starting point is 00:54:09 i'd rather have waddle i'd rather have waddle this remember this is tight i know you're not oh no you're right this is tight end premium forgot about that he's a tight end premium he's getting his back though with bits if pitts ever gets competent quarterback play which literally could be as soon as 2024 if the Falcons are bad this year win-loss-wise, he's going to be an infallible asset in a league like this with tight end premium. And he's still incredibly young. The talent's still there. He's just been injured, and he's had bad quarterback play. Yeah, I am sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I missed the tight end. I didn't miss it. I just forgot. It's still not a bad trade. It's still not a bad trade. It's still not a bad trade. It's not a slam dunk, but you're getting Friar Muth back
Starting point is 00:54:49 and you're getting Waddle. And I like Friar Muth talent-wise. I still think I do this pick. It's close. I'm just not in a position
Starting point is 00:54:59 where I would be trading picks if I had to. The sweet sound of the fantasy cops. It's been too long. All right, let's do it. This one is from Owen in a town just south of Richmond, Virginia.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Miami. I've been running a redraft league for 13 seasons with pretty much the same group of guys. I've made minor adjustments to scoring here and there over the years, but I've always disclosed any changes well before the season starts. One of the core members of the league came to me with a suggestion for a new rule this year. His
Starting point is 00:55:34 idea is a mulligan rule where teams would be able to substitute someone in their starting lineup with someone from their bench after the week and the matchup is over. Well, it's got to be after the matchup is over, not after the week is over, right? But each team can do this only once per season, not in the playoffs. And if the opponent has not already used their mulligan for
Starting point is 00:55:58 the year, that team can counter with a mulligan of their own. I told them that I can put it out to a league vote, but because it's a major change that will affect the outcome of games, it will need to be unanimous. He's saying that it should only need a simple majority to pass and that I never insisted on a unanimous vote in the past when making tweaks to scoring. The word dictator may have been thrown around. So I'm asking a couple of questions. What do you think about this Mulligan rule? And is this level, is this the level of change that should require a unanimous vote? If I heard this right, Adam, I feel like the only dictator here is the friend in your league who's telling you how you have to go about this vote and how many votes
Starting point is 00:56:38 you need for his idea to pass. So I'm with you. I think this is a major change that would require a unanimous vote. For example, in my league in the past, we're going into year 16. So I'm with you. I think this is a major change that would require a unanimous vote. For example, in my league in the past, we're going into year 16 where I'm commissioner of that home league in that league. Like when we've done things like change to super flex or, or whatever things of that nature, we decided those only needed a majority vote. Those ones we don't feel are unanimous, but a Mulligan rule, something that's not incorporated into CBS sports site, or really any fantasy site, you'd have to pretty much i think do this manually after the week the commissioner would have to kind of set the line reset the lines and change things that's a major major thing that
Starting point is 00:57:13 i believe i agree with deserves a unanimous rule i also i've heard the mulligan before in my opinion adam the better way to do this is and i think it's more fun is the mulligan is it has to be used in the first quarter of the game. So it's like if you got injured, you can sub somebody in that way. Or if you just know a guy is getting ready to break out or something like that. Yeah, I like that a little bit better version than like the end of the week thing, though it does accomplish one thing, which I do like, which is like a little bit more taking the luck out of it. If a guy gets injured in the first quarter, you get to kind of remedy that once a year. So I don't mind it.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I just feel like I agree with the commissioner here that he's doing everything that's right. He's saying this is a big change and it deserves a unanimous ruling. Alright, there you go. Not guilty. This is from Matt in northwestern Ontario. Dear Walsh, Anderson, Carlson
Starting point is 00:58:00 and Bailey. Are these kickers? Swedish kickers? I don't know. All right. I had a fantasy cops that I remembered from last year and figured for a change of pace, I would ask now. I ran into a situation where my quarterback was on a bye
Starting point is 00:58:15 and my bench was filled with people on bye or injured players except for DJ Moore. It was a 14-team league. The waiver wire was barren. I offered the person who had Kirk Cousins on their bench a trade, my DJ Moore for his Kirk Cousins. All right, so he needs a quarterback desperately, and he offers DJ Moore for Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Kirk Cousins was going to be on a buy the next week, so I also said, if you want Cousins back after this week, you can trade back for him, because I will be dropping him next week. So basically giving him a week to see if DJ Moore actually does something this season or if he puts up an egg, he can redo the trade. I mentioned I said this at some point to the other league members. And while they didn't call me out for something, they borderline thought they borderline thought it was legal. Thanks again for all you do.
Starting point is 00:58:59 All right. So what do you think? The we've had this question a lot. Yeah. The trade. It's the classic trade back question a lot. Yeah. The tradeback. It's the classic tradeback question. You know where I stand on this, I think, Adam. I am not for tradebacks.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I think they're unfair. I don't think they're good. You know, I don't think they're done. They might be done in good faith, but I don't think they help. They upset the balance of the league too much, in my opinion. That's kind of the biggest issue I have with them. So I guess I just kind of have a hard and fast rule i'm against them okay this is exciting what happened i'm going to update our league constitution for the dynasty league
Starting point is 00:59:34 okay i am going to say trade back if you acquire a player from another manager, you cannot trade that player back to the manager until three weeks have been played in this season. I think that's a good rule right there. I think that's a good time frame. Three weeks. Yeah, okay. I don't want people to think, okay all right good stuff thank you uh last one from dan we play in a contract dynasty league oh oh wait wait hold on dan i'll get back to you so um this is something that our previous email
Starting point is 01:00:24 are brought up matt in northwestern Ontario. He said, Adam, with the victory lap you took last year about the Colts, quote, beating the Eagles, how much of a victory lap did you take about being one year off of the Robbie Ray Cy Young call? Thank you for remembering that. I did predict Robbie Ray would win the Cy Young as a bold prediction. He went out, had a dreadful season. Next year, he went to the Blue Jays and he won the Cy Young. So I did take a victory lap. That is great. You are
Starting point is 01:00:48 referring to the Colts almost beating the Eagles when I called that. I said they would win. They almost won. I victory lapped that. That was the first Jeff Saturday game, wasn't it? First or second. Something like that. So yeah, I think it was a great call.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I mean, they came so close. Nobody was giving them a chance. Anyway. You know, you could have done something with that call. You could have taken the points that day. You could have. Maybe I did. There's a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Yeah, maybe you did. Maybe I did. Yeah, I've got one outstanding bet right now. Uh-oh. What is it? It's the Yankees to win the World Series. That's not Homer-based at all. Plus $1,200.
Starting point is 01:01:28 But you know what I'm going to do since you're here, buddy? And since I actually think this makes sense. Okay. I think I'm going to bet on the Mets to win the World Series. No, no, no. I'm going to see what $10 can get you. That doesn't make any sense. They are still...
Starting point is 01:01:40 Oh, they're only plus $2,500. Yeah. For a team that's... All right, let's see. Terrible. $10 gets me $260. All right. So let's500 for a team that's... All right, let's see. $10 gets me $2.60. All right, so let's hope for a Subway series. So we'll be good there.
Starting point is 01:01:53 All right, last one. Dan says, We play in a contract dynasty league. Rookie drafts have assigned three-year contracts determined by the draft pick. Last year, the last two picks in the draft, picks 11 and 12 of round five, did not make a pick or trade the picks away. The impact is tiny, could be as little as 75 cents to $3
Starting point is 01:02:13 of a $1,300 salary limit. We don't have a specific rule requiring a pick to be made, but should foregoing a pick and avoiding the tiny salary impact be allowed? I think it should definitely be allowed. I think this is good strategy. I think those fifth and sixth round picks, these people are understanding that value of them is very low. They're better off not spending the money. If you think this is such an issue, the thing I would suggest is getting rid of the sixth round, getting rid of maybe the fifth round. If you feel this is that
Starting point is 01:02:42 big of an issue. It is only the fifth round. Yeah. It's, they don't have the fifth round. Sorry. Um, that'd be my suggestion. Otherwise I think it's good strategy. Okay. I mean the NFL, you can't just not make a pick.
Starting point is 01:02:53 You can not make a pick. The Vikings did it once. Yeah. But then they made a pick later. Yeah. You're right. You could trade those picks though. That's what the NFL teams do.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah. Yeah. I guess this is what he's saying should be done here. Well, I want everybody to have an awesome weekend. I want everybody to bid on a couple of things, by the way. Not just, or many things. Not just the spot in the Dynasty League. A guest appearance on the show.
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