Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag! Plenty of Dynasty Questions (05/29 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 29, 2020

We've got an hour of redraft and dynasty questions for you, but first we have a surprisingly spirited discussion about Diontae Johnson (2:24)! Is the hype legit? And what are the latest rumors about ...the Eagles backfield (10:25)? ... Starting with your redraft questions (14:55), we touch on Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Kenyan Drake, Christian McCaffrey's workload (16:50), the Giants WRs (22:40), keepers, Best Ball strategy (26:00), A.J. Green (29:05) and more ... And now on to Dynasty as we answer your Apple Podcast questions (31:00) and your emails (49:10). We grade your trades, talk about Lamar Jackson's future, Justin Jefferson, Aaron Jones and many more ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. All right, you've got questions.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We've got a lot of answers, whether it's just regular redraft stuff or dynasty questions. It's a mailbag, a Thursday night mailbag that you might be hearing on Friday. So happy Friday to everybody. I'm Adam Azer with Ben Gretch. What's up, Ben? I'm excited to be here. I'm not convinced. Heath said you were coming in hot today. What do you got? Well, we'll get to the news and notes, and that's when we'll have the discussion. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Is it going to be about Miles Sanders? It's not going to be about Miles Sanders. I didn't even know Miles Sanders was in the notes. Oh, yes, I did, because Devontae Freeman. I think Devontae Freeman's going somewhere else. Okay, okay, good. Dave, Richard, hey. I'd be mortified if I had to hear the talk from heath
Starting point is 00:01:08 the talk i had to give the talk just a week and a half ago to my nine-year-old son um it was puberty time at his school and his teacher sent me a message and said i'm assigning the dads to teach this to their sons. The teachers are not teaching this this year. Please teach your son about puberty. They actually called it puberty time? Well, I did. I have a nine-year-old daughter, and I'm a dad of a daughter.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I'm hoping she'll stay young, but you're telling me you had to give the talk to a nine-year-old, and that scares the crap out of me. Just let your wife do it, Ben. No, we just talked about erections and pubic hair and things like that. Well, this is a fantasy show. Should we call them regressions, like positive regressions? Okay, listen. We never brought up deontay johnson when we talked about year two wide receivers we got a lot of pushback for that so we're definitely
Starting point is 00:02:11 speaking of regression talk about deontay johnson somebody's got a regression for deontay johnson apparently um and we're going to read your emails at fantasy football at cbsi.com and we're going to read your apple podcast questions as well let's start with our news and notes and the first one is about deontay johnson he said he played through a sports hernia uh played with a sports hernia injury for most of the season week two he got hurt and he had a really nice rookie year especially on a team that was so bad throwing the football johnson had 680 yards five touchdowns on 92 targets. I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Okay. We're just going to do it now. I don't. At the beginning of the year, I was more optimistic about Deontay Johnson than I currently am. But this has been Deontay Johnson hype week on Twitter. Everyone's excited. I saw some stuff when the sports hernia deal came out. He was that good with a sports hernia he was that good james washington averaged more yards per game per reception and per target than deontay johnson of
Starting point is 00:03:14 course juju smith schuster did as well i don't get it this is a guy who went to toledo for four years had one season with more than 800 yards. In 2018, his last year at Toledo, he basically split receiving work evenly with someone named Cody Thompson and another guy named John Veya Johnson. They both had more touchdowns than Deontay Johnson did that year.
Starting point is 00:03:40 He's 5'10 and 180 pounds. He's not fast. He didn't test well at the Combine. His best comp on Player Profiler is Randall Cobb. His college breakout age was a year older than Juju was as a rookie. He's older than Juju right now. I like this. This is good stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:59 All I said was he had a nice rookie year, by the way. And because last year, he catches 59 passes for 680 yards. And apparently, according to one site, Pro Football Focus, he led receivers in broken tackles force. I think Ben told you his thoughts on that particular statistic yesterday. And he also apparently created a lot of separation on his routes um he's not as good as juju in terms of like prospect status looking at him coming out of college and he didn't do anything last year that really changed our opinion of that he's a worse prospect coming out of
Starting point is 00:04:41 college than definitely juju was definitely James Washington and Claypool. They're all better athletic profiles than him. I don't get it at all. He is more likely to be fourth on the Steelers and receiving this year than he is to be a top 20 wide receiver. Anyone feel differently? First of all, I just want to say that Deontay Johnson week resonates much better than puberty week. Next thing I want to say is that I think what I remember watching from Deontay Johnson when he came in from Toledo, his film looked like he looked like he could change direction pretty quickly. And he was willing to cross the field. And it almost made you think a little bit of Antonio Brown, but you never want to call anybody Antonio Brown because Antonio Brown was just so good, but he doesn't
Starting point is 00:05:28 have the speed of AB. I think it really comes down to just how big of an opportunity the Steelers are going to give him. And last year they gave him a pretty decent opportunity. He was okay with it. If the hype gets out of control, Curtis Samuel style style then you know not to touch him but if you can still get him in like that round 10 maybe round nine range despite everything he said and i think he really did a great job of breaking deontay johnson not breaking down but breaking him i i think that there's just not a serious amount of risk and a lot of potential especially if he's just going to see single coverage all the time in that Steelers offense. You said you never want to compare anyone to Antonio Brown.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I believe the Steelers did last offseason. That was something that they were talking about. We had some quotes from the team, and that's the role he played, and he was good. But I don't go as far as Heathath but i do agree that the hype's way out of control i mean a couple i i was trying to figure out when this was i time is like uh not a thing anymore i don't know if it was two months ago or a couple weeks ago maybe some of our listeners will remember but there was a point not that long ago that i called deonta johnson
Starting point is 00:06:42 undervalued in all formats on some listener question we had about you know undervalued guys or sleepers i think it was on dynasty pod that was the time to buy him now what's happening is everyone like the hype starts building and everyone real like this happens sometimes in off seasons especially when there's nothing going on everyone starts realizing oh yeah this guy was um this guy was undervalued and it's almost like we missed the boat, and now we're all going to say how much we love Deontay Johnson to the point where he's way overvalued. I mean, this type of thing happens every year
Starting point is 00:07:14 where a guy jumps so many rounds, and then he starts getting drafted way too high. And I do agree with Heath. I'm optimistic about him, more optimistic than Heath. But I agree that this hype is not warranted. There's talk about him going in round seven or round eight eventually, and you just think of some of the receivers that we've drafted in that range so far in our mocks.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Two that come to mind are Brandon Cooks and Will Fuller. I mean, I'd laugh. I'll say this now on May 28th. I'd laugh if Deontay Johnson went ahead of those guys. Would you take Deontay Johnson ahead of Justin Jefferson? Yeah, I would do that. I think so too. I probably will project him for more points than Justin Jefferson,
Starting point is 00:07:59 but I don't really see as much upside as Justin Jefferson has. Okay. It's kind of interesting. The Steelers have drafted three wide receivers in the very similar range the last three years. Deontay Johnson was the 66th overall pick. Chase Claypool, most recently, was the 49th pick. And James Washington, the first of the three to be drafted, uh,
Starting point is 00:08:26 the, the earliest, you know, 2017, I guess was the 60th pick of 2018. Yeah. So 2018, Washington,
Starting point is 00:08:33 2019, Johnson, 2020 chase Claypool. And, uh, final question here. How, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Do you rank Johnson or Washington higher? And as Heath mentioned, Washington had a better year. He had more yards. He had fewer catches. He's more of a downfield guy. Higher, more air yards, more A-dot, higher A-dot. How about that for Washington? But who do you like better, Johnson or Washington,
Starting point is 00:08:58 and how close is it? And let me just finish this conversation there. Dave. Johnson way more than Washington. Okay, Ben. I'm just trying to hold back. I've got another point, but I'm holding it. Hold it back.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Ben. Yeah, same thing. Washington plays the same role that Claypool was drafted to play, downfield role. There's different roles in this offense. Okay. Deontay Johnson is very much in the Antonio Brown role. You've got to have him a lot higher, in opinion heath i i have johnson higher than washington i i'm not taking either
Starting point is 00:09:31 in the first eight rounds of a draft so i'm not sure how much that can be that far apart but yeah i'd rather draft johnson than washington cool thank you good discussion there thanks to all the listeners who made sure that i did not forget about Deontay Johnson. It wasn't really an oversight because I was mostly focusing on the year two receivers that had 900 yards, which was the threshold we'd been using. And there were only three of them. But fair enough. Both Nick Foles and Mitchell Trubisky are going to play with the starters during the preseason.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Paris Campbell will play more in the slot this season. Give me a 10-second reaction. Dave. Going to love hanging on to him in deeper PPR drafts. John Harbaugh envisions roles for Mark Ingram, J.K. Dobbins, Justice Hill, and Gus Edwards. 10-second reaction. Heath?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Justice Hill is going to be a kick returner. Philadelphia has made an offer to Devante Freeman, according to Jeff McClain of the Philadelphia Inquirer McClain also says that the Bucs are interested they haven't made an offer to Freeman but they're interested so the Eagles making an offer to Freeman what do we think about this guys?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Ben? No strong feeling I don't think Freeman's good anymore he was really inefficient last year and I've seen some advanced stats this offseason that controlled for... I can't remember what it controlled for, but he was really bad, like the worst, and by a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So I don't think he's good anymore. Is he someone who could replace Sanders at the goal line? No. Why? I think it'd be a bigger deal if he went to Tampa. Agreed. I could see him going to Tampa and if he went to Tampa. Agreed. I could see him going to Tampa and just taking all of the third down work. It's seriously something that was even brought up by Jeff McClain, that Tampa was in the mix for Freeman.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Right. The biggest area that Sanders was weak at last year was short yardage goal line. And the fact that Hyde went to Seattle just makes me want to do leaps across my living room. Because he could have definitely swiped that role from Miles Sanders. I'm not sure Freeman can, and I don't think LaShawn McCoy can. I'm just hoping that if they sign Freeman, that he doesn't become a passing downs guy and takes a lot of catches away from Sanders.
Starting point is 00:11:39 It would be the dumbest thing in the world if the Eagles did that, where they take Miles Sanders, who's a good pass catcher. look at how he did catching the football in the first like six or seven weeks of the season he was insane why would you take him out of that role for davante freeman but also but also not what philly would do it wouldn't impact sanders that much because you'll recall late last year they were using boston scott in a pass catching role it's true but sanders was still splitting out and running some different types of routes. I don't think it would impact Sanders that much, even if like they can have multiple pass catching backs,
Starting point is 00:12:08 not offense. They don't, they know they, they also didn't have any wide use another back for depth. They don't need another back to mix in with Sanders and Scott. Yeah, I hope so. But it's yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Just to give the numbers Sanders. No, I know he makes fun of me for this. I look at six games for Sanders is the six games after Jordan Howard got hurt. And before mile Sanders got hurt in week 17, it makes fun of me for this. I look at six games for Sanders. It's the six games after Jordan Howard got hurt and before Miles Sanders got hurt in Week 17. Makes sense to me. He had 25 catches. Boston Scott had 19 catches.
Starting point is 00:12:32 But remember, the wide receivers were really not a part of it. They were banged up. Greg Ward was the only one that was really doing anything. So things could change. But Sanders was on pace in those six games for 251 carries and 67 catches, which would have been top eight in carries, about eighth in carries, and about eighth in catches over a full season. Not necessarily on a per-game basis, but pretty good in terms of touches,
Starting point is 00:12:57 especially for a rookie. All righty. Moving on here. You definitely say catches. It doesn't rhyme with a Gretsch when you say catches. Well, it's because of how it's spelled. I feel good about that. Moving on, just some NFL notes.
Starting point is 00:13:10 They will now allow three players to return from IR. The NFL will not change the onside kick rule, which they should. It's, come on. And the NFL will not bring back the instant replay review, which is such a failure. It's not that hard. It's not that hard. If millions of people watching at home can tell what pass interference is,
Starting point is 00:13:28 don't overcomplicate it. I think this is a major failure on their part, and no reason why they shouldn't use technology to get more calls right. I'm Adam Azer. I support this message. Now, college football is getting closer and closer, so it's the perfect time to unveil off-season rankings. Throughout May, the Cover 3 podcast team has been counting down
Starting point is 00:13:44 their preseason top 25 in separate episodes. And this week they're focusing on the top five. Of course, you can go back and hear all of this. Chip Patterson and company have been breaking down each team in their Hurry Up Hot Seat series under 15 minutes. Very cool series. So where will Clemson and Ohio State rank? They're bringing back the top two quarterbacks in the country.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Will Alabama crack the top three after they lost Tua? Download and subscribe to the Cover 3 podcast wherever you listen to FFT. Unfortunately, I will not be able to play poker next week on Twitch, but these guys will, and they're bringing in the Pick 6 crew, Will Brinson and Sean Wagner-McGough are going to be joining a bunch of our guys on Twitch next Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Tuesday at 7 p.m. Eastern. So it's poker with the FFT crew plus Will Brinson and Sean Wagner-McGough from Pick 6. Go to twitch.com slash FF today. Follow us. Tell your friends. Watch us play poker. It was extremely fun.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I will miss it on Tuesday. I'll be back the following week. Okay, here's what we're going to do. We're at 15 minutes. We're going to spend at most 15 more minutes on non-dynasty emails. The rest of the show will be dynasty. Here we go. This is River Martin in South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Do you think Clyde Edwards-Elair will be a boom or bust player this year? Yes. Actually, that's the way I interpreted it. I didn't think he was, I didn't know if he meant like, do you think he'll be boom or do you think he'll be bust? Or do you think he'll just be one of those boomer bus guys?
Starting point is 00:15:16 I don't, I think there's a chance for him to be a boom or a bust, not a guy that one week he's going to have, um, 130 yards and a touchdown in the next week on the same amount of carries, 45 yards and no touchdown. I think he's either going to be the guy in Kansas City's backfield who gets the majority of the touches and just takes advantage of what defenses give the Chiefs, or he struggles to adapt to the offense. He's in a part-time role
Starting point is 00:15:44 with Damian Williams and Darwin Thompson. And he might give you double-digit fantasy points once every four weeks. And you won't be happy about it. In these types of situations, there's a lot that we don't know. I think it's helpful to kind of latch onto what you do know. We know that he's in an amazing offense. We know that they used a first-round pick on him while they already had
Starting point is 00:16:05 all their other backs that are currently on the roster on the roster they they made the decision to to commit to him and they thought he was the best running back in the class because they took him first those things are all very good for him immediately in 2020 there's still a lot of uncertainty about how much he'll play but there's a lot of reason to be happy about it. From Matthew. From... Dave? Matthew is from Henderson, Nevada. Is it crazy to take Clyde Edwards-Elair and Kenyon Drake
Starting point is 00:16:33 at the 1-2 turn? Yes. I think you can do better than that at the 1-2 turn. You can get one of those guys and somebody who's better. Joe Mixon, one of the top receivers that are out there. If you don't want to mess with tight end, you can get one of those guys and somebody who's better, a Joe Mixon, one of the top receivers that are out there. If you don't want to mess with tight end, you can get Kelsey there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:50 From D, he's also from that city in Nevada, by the way. Why is nobody talking about Christian McCaffrey's huge workload from last season? I found an article Jamie wrote in 2014. Wow. About Marshawn Lynch's 400 touch season. CMC out-touched Lynch, and it feels like everyone is underestimating the risk of regression
Starting point is 00:17:10 through injury or otherwise. I have the number one pick in two of my most important leagues, so I am concerned. Please discuss on the show. So the argument that I would give is that not all touches are created equally. And you look at Derek Henry's touches from the year, the overwhelming majority of them
Starting point is 00:17:25 are carries. Christian McCaffrey had 100 catches, and those catches, they usually don't ding up a running back like a carry would. So even though he had over 400, a lot of them were not the same type of touch that Derrick Henry had. And so I think you can believe that his body will heal up and he'll feel better and he'll go out there and keep doing what he's doing. Henry is going to say that he feels fine, he's ready to go. He told us that at the Super Bowl. He told us during Radio Row,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I could play another 16 games right now. I don't know if I necessarily believe that, but we've seen running backs, when they have these huge carry seasons, and we just got done talking about this during the fantasy football yesterday week and the bust players there, there is some serious regression a lot of the time, and it usually involves a foot injury.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And so I think that's kind of what you have to look for with Derek Henry is could that workload come down either because of injury, because of the Titans trying to reel him in a little bit, or is he just a freak of nature and he just goes out there and steamrolls everybody? I will say that in both the case of Derrick Henry and Christian McCaffrey, we're getting a little bit loose with the numbers and loose with historical data. We don't have very many examples of players with 400 with the number of touches that christian mcafree had last season and the way they were distributed we do have a belief and some data
Starting point is 00:18:51 that says that receptions are not as dangerous to running backs as carries but it's not like we have several 300 carry 100 catch running backs to compare about whether they'll break down and the derrick henry thing like the 400 carry thing was always he had 400 carries in the regular season and now we've extended it to he had over 400 touches in the regular season and three playoff games so like both of these cases are not exactly along the lines of the historical data we'd normally use and that historical data that we normally use is an extremely small sample size. And I just want to add one more note on,
Starting point is 00:19:29 on to Dave's point, McCaffrey specific type of work doesn't require a huge workload. So even if you are concerned that they'll scale him back this year, because of it gets back to that trap back and high value touches that we talk about because of the fact that he gets so many receptions as a high percentage of his touches he doesn't need 400 touches to be the number one running back christian mccaffrey outscored the number two running back in ppr by 156 fantasy points depends on the league this website whatever the scoring is a little bit different but on cbs and a non-decimal league 15 156 fantasy points. That's ridiculous. Ezekiel Elliott had 433 touches in 2018,
Starting point is 00:20:09 and he was top four running back last year. He did have a noticeable drop-off in explosive plays, though. He went from 11 carries of 20-plus yards to only four. I have noticed over time that is a little bit of a flexible stat, but Ezekiel elliott was just fine um and uh one other player levy on bell levy on bell in 2017 would probably be the best comp for christian mcafree he had 321 carries and he had 85 catches so not quite as many catches but more carries and then he sat out 2018 so we have no idea what happened there uh all right next email
Starting point is 00:20:46 here by the way thank you for that email d good stuff from sal in the motor city 12 team ppr redraft league we keep one player from the fifth round or later we can keep them for two more years after we draft the player and then he will go back to the draft pool. Who should I keep? Aaron Jones in the ninth round for one more year, or Mark Andrews in the last round for two more years? So it's actually a little deceiving. It's Aaron Jones this year and next year, or Mark Andrews for this year and two more years, but Jones in the ninth round and Andrews in the 17th round.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm keeping Andrews. It's tough to pass up Andrews because of the value and because you can keep him a little bit longer. I'm Andrews. I think you have to go that way. Andrews, for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:39 The funny thing is that we'll all draft Jones before Andrews this year in fantasy. There's an eight-round difference. Not eight rounds before. Yeah, but in fantasy. Not eight rounds before. Yeah, but you know, not eight rounds before, but what's the difference between
Starting point is 00:21:51 keeping a guy in round nine and keeping a guy in round 17? I mean, either way, it's a lot different than keeping a guy in round two or keeping a guy in round nine. That's a huge difference. You're going to get a steal either way. I think it's just i'm nervous about aaron jones being a big time fantasy running back this year and next year i think he can
Starting point is 00:22:13 probably do it this year and if he does and he gets a new contract then those those concerns will be gone but if he has anywhere close to a mediocre year, his career trajectory can change fast. I don't see that happening with Andrews. This is from Casey. He says, David, Johnny, Moira, and Alexis. Schitt's Creek. I don't watch that show. I need to,
Starting point is 00:22:38 don't I? You do. Can you guys rank the three receivers for the Giants? Nope. We can't. Next question. Shepard, Tate, Slayton. Shepard, Tate, Slayton.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I have... I might have Slayton highest. Let's see where I have Shepard. It depends on scoring for me. I have Slayton highest and then Shepard and Tate. Slayton's highest for me in non-PPR. In full PPR, I'm going to stick with Shepard. I just think he's a little safer.
Starting point is 00:23:14 From no name. Dave, provide. Juan. From? Torrance, California. 12-team half PPR. Keep one. Chris Godwin, third round.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Devin Singletary, eighth round. James-team half PPR. Keep one. Chris Godwin, third round. Devin Singletary, eighth round. James Conner, 11th round. See, now this is an example of rounds making a huge difference. And I think Godwin's probably the safest of the three. Godwin in the third? It's got the least amount of value, at least in terms of draft round obviously but i think god if you're keeping godwin for if it's for one year even it's still a good deal i like if here's the thing if you want chris godwin you're probably going to have a
Starting point is 00:23:56 chance to draft him so i'll take connor in the 11th right but in the keeper it makes it tougher he he might not we don't know if this is his last keeper or the only keeper, but even if there's only one keeper and there's 12 keepers off the board, that pushes Godwin up to a mid-first rounder probably. Right. Even if everybody's keeping one player and that's it, Godwin could still potentially be a late first-round pick. And what if he has the first pick?
Starting point is 00:24:21 He's going to take Godwin? Then, of course, he's not. So he's not going to get it. I'm keeping Godwin. This is from Bob. I think Connor in the 11th is a fair argument, too, though. Yeah. Can I get a picture of him?
Starting point is 00:24:35 He's not going to have to worry about offensive line. He grew wings on his back. He's just going to fly over the defense. This is from Bob. He says, hey, Aaron, AJ, Jamal, and Tyler. That is from Bob. He says, Hey, Aaron, AJ, Jamal, and Tyler, that is Packers, 12 team standard scoring league, four keepers. There are three that seem fairly
Starting point is 00:24:51 obvious to me. Aaron Jones, Miles Sanders, and Michael Thomas. Now, my fourth one. Is it Amari Cooper, Kenny Galladay, George Kittle, or Cortland Sutton? Can we remove Aaron Jones? It's non-PPR, by the way. Why not?
Starting point is 00:25:13 In non-PPR, I'd rather have Jones than Cooper. Oh, it's non-PPR. I'll go Gullity. I'll go Gullity. Over Kittle, huh? I'll go Kittle. Yeah, I think I'm going Kittle, and it sounds like you can keep these guys for a while
Starting point is 00:25:24 because you can keep four. So if you're keeping four players every year, I want Kittle on my team for a long time. But I was going to go Kittle and want to take one of the receivers over Jones, but I guess I'm not. I agree. And this is from Jet.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Hey, Barry, Bobby, Bo, Bert, and Bruce. Those are baseball players. Yeah, for sure. Do they sound like baseball players? Because the first two do. Barry, Bobby, and Bruce. Those are baseball players. Do they sound like baseball players? Because the first two do. Barry, Bobby, and Bruce are giants. San Francisco Giants. But who's Bob?
Starting point is 00:25:52 Oh, Bruce Bochy. Yeah, I have no idea what this is. Oh, Jackson? He never played for the Giants. I decided to join a best ball league out of boredom while in quarantine, and I didn't know the best way to prep for the draft. I know the draft is the most and really the only important part of best
Starting point is 00:26:09 ball. True. And I wanted to know certain stats or positions I should target. Good luck. I guess the baseline I would tell you is you're going to want to draft two to three quarterbacks, two to three tight ends, and then the rest will be running backs and wide receivers. And the way I determine if I'm drafting two or three of the quarterbacks or
Starting point is 00:26:31 tight ends is how good my first one is and what the bye week situation looks like. That's pretty good. I think that makes sense. In best ball for me, you guys know that I tend to wait at running back. I tend to go earlier at running back in best ball. Wide receiver is the much higher variance position. And in best ball formats, you can take, especially those high ADOT guys, right? The air yards, you can take these boomer bus weekly players
Starting point is 00:26:57 a little bit later and load up with more wide receivers and really still have pretty good wide receiver upside with a lot of wide receiver depth give me some names that you target in best ball the streaky guys that don't hurt you as much will fuller for sure 100 um john ross really late i you know they have a competition there but he's an option yeah sean jackson late for sure he would be on my list okay um marvin jones or is he just yes marvin jones yes but i don't know if you can get him Sean Jackson late, for sure. He would be on my list. Okay. Marvin Jones, or is he just... Yes, Marvin Jones, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But I don't know if you can get him late. I think you just get him... I think you just get him, like, middle of the thing, maybe a little bit later than that. Mike Williams is going late. I didn't necessarily mean late. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Will Fuller. Nicole Hardman, you take. Josh Reynolds, I think, is a really late round guy that could be their deep threat. I'm going to do some Texan stacks in best ball. Also, I'm much more interested in stacking quarterbacks, receivers, quarterbacks, tight ends in best ball than I am in redraft. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Agreed. Okay, this comes from Sully. We've got some tweets for you. Sully, as a commissioner, how do you anticipate dealing with a shortened season? Say a second wave hits hard over the winter and the NFL decides to end its season. What would you do then? End the Fantasy League with no winner?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Make the person with the most points the champion? What would you do? I think this is a smart thing to figure out before your season starts. And it's something commissioners should think about. In the league that I commission, I would probably make it clear that if at any point the season gets shut down,
Starting point is 00:28:40 the team with the best record would be the de facto champion with points scored as the tiebreaker. Okay, let me read one more here. As long as it's probably with a minimum of four games played or something. But yeah, if you're eight games in and one guy's eight now, Yeah, he wins. I'd probably just call it off. I'm calling it off.
Starting point is 00:29:01 They're running back. Okay, okay. John Ayers is our last email or tweet, and then we'll get to the Dynasty stuff. John Ayers says, how are you approaching A.J. Green's future? Solid wide receiver two potential for the next couple seasons, or is he about to fall off the proverbial cliff?
Starting point is 00:29:16 About to. Didn't he already? Look, he was really good first eight games of 2018, and he's been really hurt since then. He's played one game in the last 24. When he's right, I think you still view him as one of the best talents at wide receiver in the NFL. How are you approaching him, though?
Starting point is 00:29:37 I'm approaching him like he said at the beginning of his email, that he's a number two receiver. Cool. That's where I was at in the beginning of the offseason, but his price has skyrocketed. In our early mocks, he was like a seventh or eighth round pick, and I took him a couple times, and I'm usually on the
Starting point is 00:29:54 youth side. But now that he's like... He's being drafted now like he's perfectly healthy. You think so? Like I said, when he was perfectly healthy, he's perfectly healthy. Well, you think so? Because like I said, when he was perfectly healthy, he was a second round pick.
Starting point is 00:30:08 He's a fifth round pick now. Two years ago. If he's perfectly healthy and you're getting him at the four or five turn, I think you're going to be happy. That's where he's been going in a lot of our drafts. All right, cool. Let's take a quick break here. When we come back, Apple podcast questions,
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Starting point is 00:32:27 Also fantasy football. We talk about that. This one comes... Oh, you know what? The first two Apple Pod questions are about Deontay Johnson. So we'll skip those. But thank you to...
Starting point is 00:32:35 I could do that again if you want me to. You were fired up. That was good. Thank you to JB and Kyle for those questions about Deontay Johnson. Now, Joppa85, keep two in a 10-team keeper league. Third round pick,
Starting point is 00:32:51 Miles Sanders. All right, so Miles Sanders in the third, Galladay in the fifth, DJ Moore in the sixth, James Conner in the seventh. Ben, you cannot keep DJ Moore twice. He's the clear first. Was that a real laugh or was that like a screw you laugh? I will walk off this podcast.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Okay, it was a real laugh. Good. DJ Moore in the sixth. I think we can all agree there, right? Yep, sure. Who else? I think I'd go Galladay. Yeah. Okay. Galladay. Yeah. Okay. Galladay in the fifth over Sanders in the third.
Starting point is 00:33:28 You are passing up Christian McCaffrey, basically, in the third. Maybe it's Sanders. JK, by the way. It's full PPR, Adam? They don't say. If it's non-PPR, I might say goodbye to Moore. I really might. I know. goodbye to Moore. I really might. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:46 What? Yeah. Dave's right. Dave's right. Those catches, they don't weigh the same, obviously. What happens if he has a year where it's 90 catches for 1,050 yards and five touchdowns? Still good. You would take that in non-PPR, but I think Galladay can beat that.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And I think Sanders can definitely beat that. Okay. Uh, from the average, uh, 13.5 yards per catch last year and 14.3 is a rookie. So he's not your typical possession receiver. What's that?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Probably not going to average 10.5 next year. You don't think? Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. Yeah. Probably. God, I'll beat him? Yeah, I don't think so. Okay. Yeah. Galladay will beat him in that. I think it comes down to, like, Galladay's going to probably have
Starting point is 00:34:29 higher yards per catch because Galladay's really, really good at that. But also, it's touchdowns. I think Matthew Stafford, it's, you know. Well, the question I have about Galladay's touchdowns, though, is look at his touchdown rate before last year. Like, last year is, i don't think we can we don't know for sure yet that kenny goleday is just a high touchdown rate guy he was a low touchdown rate guy and he's on he shares the field with marvin jones who has like one of the highest
Starting point is 00:34:57 touchdown rates in the last 10 years so this is this is what i would just say in general you're talking about a guy who's played three years. For wide receivers, I really don't care what they do in year one. I'm not going to talk about it. Well, I mean, if it's good in year one. Yes, then I care big time. But if he doesn't have... I don't care about his touchdown rate in year one, personally. So then you're talking about year two versus year three.
Starting point is 00:35:20 He had 11 touchdown catches last year, Galladay. I would not expect that. But I would probably expect eight and yeah the thing about Galladay is that he's good both in deep ball situations and in red zone situations and that's what helps contribute to a lot of touchdowns and I think he started to really put it all together last year should I care about your one touchdown right no not really okay I think yards in year one is helpful though No. Not really, I don't think. I think yards in year one is helpful, though. If a guy is getting on the field and not producing, like JJ Arcega
Starting point is 00:35:51 Whiteside last year, I think that's a pretty negative indicator. This is an Apple Podcast question from Praise the Jord. Hey, David, Tim, George, and Sean. I'll Google. That's David Robinson, Tim, George, and Sean. I'll Google. Spurs?
Starting point is 00:36:07 That's David Robinson, Tim Duncan, George Girvin, and Sean Elliott. Wow. That's my guess. Could be. That's a hell of a poll. But shouldn't George be... George Carl. I mean, George Popovich.
Starting point is 00:36:20 George Popovich. That's Greg Popovich. Greg Popovich. But I'm thinking shouldn't George be on the team with the other three? That doesn't sound
Starting point is 00:36:30 right. Yeah, it didn't sound right to me either. Was there a George on the team? All right, whatever. Dynasty League is drafting rookies.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Boy, I really want to edit that part out, but I'll leave it at it. I have pick 112. Who should I target in the first round? Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:50 This is rookies and available free agents are targeting here. Notable free agents are Raheem Mostert, Rob Gronkowski, Noah Fant, Hayden Hurst, and Preston Williams. Kind of a dynasty league has those guys available. Yeah, why is Fant available? But I don't know that I would take any of those guys over who you can get at 112 in this class. Not Mostert or Gronk or Preston Williams
Starting point is 00:37:18 or Hurst. Fant's the only one I would consider, personally. But I would probably take Chenault over him who I think you can get at 112 the really interesting thing is if you have 112 you won the league last year unless it's a 14 team league probably won the league i mean if these guys are on the waiver wire i don't think it's a 14 team league but it could be how can they be on the waiver wire in a 12 team league well like gronk hurst and pre Preston Williams, I don't think are all that surprising.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Most are. I guess. Well, I mean, no one's stashing Preston Williams after the ACL. Hurst, I agree with you on, and Gronk, I agree with you on. Gronk was a free agent in our dynasty league. Yeah, but if I was really weak at tight end and I had a contender going for a repeat, I might just take Hurst.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Or Hurst. So I think what we should do is everybody should pick the player they want the most from that list of free agents, I'm saying. And then I'll start running off names of players from the rookie class that might be there at 12 and tell me if you're going to take that guy. Like for the sake of the argument, I'll take Gronk. Okay, I need to win now. I want a tight end.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I'm drafting Gronk ahead of Fant and redraft. So I can tell you that I actually have been to leagues where this happens and where this happened. And I took Gronk at 302 in one of them. And he went at like 202 in the other one. Right. Because someone will take a chance on him right around that range. But I look at guys like Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, T. Higgins,
Starting point is 00:38:51 Chenault, Denzel Mims. I think they'll all be there, and I think I would take every last one of them ahead of Gronk if given the opportunity. Me too. So that's what we're looking at, those types of receivers. Jefferson, Pittman, Higgins, Chenault, Mims. opportunity so those are that's what we're looking at those types of receivers jefferson pitman higgins chanel mims keshawn vaughn might make it there uh zach moss if you really need a running back might make it there but go with one of those guys or if you don't really have any needs
Starting point is 00:39:17 and you want to get the best quarterback prospect that's come out in the last eight years. You just draft Burrow. So I don't think there was anybody named George that played on any of the Spurs teams with Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Yeah, but George Girvin was like one of their all-time great players. Yeah, no, I'm just saying. But I also Googled George Popovich and Greg Popovich came up. So there's nobody even named Greg Popovich. George Popovich.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Adam's favorite Seinfeld character is Greg Popovich. We had a really good Dynasty tweet, Adam. Could I read it? Yes, let's get going here. Go. It's from Keith Hummings. I just completed the most anti-Ben Gretsch trade in my life. 16-team Best Ball Dynasty League.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Grade the trade. Gave up Ronald Jones, kishan vaughn lavisca chennault van jefferson darwin thompson and quez watkins received derrick henry and ty i know that you're giving up a lot of youth for those guys but you win yeah i don't think it's a bad trade for youth. And I obviously love Chenault, and I really like Quez Watkins as a really deep sleeper. I don't
Starting point is 00:40:33 like Van Jefferson, but pretty much every other player you said I like, and that's why you said that. And you hate the guys I got. And I don't like the guys you got, and I always prioritize youth, and I still don't think you lost that trade. I do like Van Jefferson. I think that Robert Woods could be gone after this year. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:49 They took him in the second round. I think he's going to have a solid career in the NFL, but that's it, just a solid career. I think he fits well with the Rams. I'm not sure he'll have any 1,000-yard seasons. Quez Watkins, by the way, is a... Who's a better prospect, Van Jefferson or Deontay Johnson? Deontay Johnson.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I would say Johnson, and I like both of them. Well, so Van Jefferson stayed until his redshirt senior year, and his career high in market share of yards on any team he played on, he played in two different colleges, was 21%, which is really, really low. You're hoping for a 30% breakout age, so basically didn't break out. Deontay Johnson, at least, was an early declare, and he had a big, I think it was his
Starting point is 00:41:26 redshirt sophomore season. Does he count as an early declare if he redshirts? Yeah. He still declared early. But he was there for four years. Right, but it still counts as an early declare. That's why it's called an early declare instead of like four years. Let's go to the next one. I just think if you're there five years it should be a late declare.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Okay, from the Bob Barker. 2020 Dynasty rookieookie Free Agent Draft. I have picks 1.3, 1.5, 1.14. Should I focus on running backs early or target Lamb or Judy at five? I have Kamara and James White at running back. I have Keenan Allen, A.J. Green, and Michael Gallup at wide receiver. So I'd say he needs everything here. 1.3, 1.5, 1.14, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:42:09 I was in this exact, not exactly the same, but pretty much the same situation in our dynasty draft. And like three days before the dynasty draft, I was dead set on getting two receivers. And then I looked at my running backs, which are probably in actually worse shape than the ones that you've got. And I ended up taking one receiver and it ended up being lamb and then I took the best available running back when I was up again in round one and that ended up being cam
Starting point is 00:42:36 acres and then I traded back into the round to pick up Joe Burrow I I feel pretty confident one of Lamb or Judy will be there at three. They both could be there. I'm going to take Dobbins at three and Lamb or Judy at five. Yeah, you're guaranteed one of them to be there. That's excellent. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Good stuff. Next question from Macy Taylor. Do you think Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray will have a better future in the long run, including injuries? Lamar Jackson. What is it? Yeah. Why are people still doubting Lamar Jackson? I'm not even sure Lamar is more likely to get hurt than Kyler. Look, in his second season,
Starting point is 00:43:26 Michael Vick had almost 3,000 passing yards and he had 777 rushing yards. Okay, not as good as what Lamar Jackson did. The touchdowns were nowhere near the same. 16 passing, 8 rushing touchdowns. That was a hell of a year.
Starting point is 00:43:41 He was not anywhere close to on the same level as good as Lamar Jackson. In terms of yards... Wait, hold on. Before the whole new revolution of offense. I'm just saying, in terms of yards, he was fairly similar. He didn't have a great career after that, really.
Starting point is 00:43:58 He didn't have a great... He spent time in a federal penitentiary. Are we going to... Is that the comp that we're going to make? He played until 2015, and he had four more seasons in the NFL before that. So he was... He never really...
Starting point is 00:44:12 I'm just looking. After that time, he had a year where he got hurt, then a year where he was number 12, number six, number two, and then he was in jail, and then he was number 1 overall, and then number 11.
Starting point is 00:44:28 He had five good seasons. He had two great seasons after that. Two top two seasons. Yeah. And again, two things. One, it was a worse atmosphere for him to play in, for sure. That's, I think, unquestionable. This is pre a lot of the concussion stuff and everything.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And then number two, Lamar Jackson is just a different player. Like, yeah, it's the, it's the best comp we have, but Lamar Jackson, like it almost is unfair to Lamar Jackson to,
Starting point is 00:44:57 to comp him to just the closest thing we have to him. He's a very unique player. He just won the MVP in the second season. He's way better than Kyler Murray, and I love Kyler Murray. When I bring this stuff up, I don't want people to think that I'm taking a stand. I'm just giving a comp and playing
Starting point is 00:45:13 devil's advocate. Oh, I don't think anyone does. The way you talk to me, I don't know. I felt like that. Sorry. Just bringing it up. I just wanted to bring that up. Lamar Jackson so just bringing it up I was really Heath not you but just both of you I just wanted to bring that up like you know
Starting point is 00:45:28 Lamar Jackson I said the dumbest I've said a lot of stupid things but I think the dumbest thing I ever said was I thought RG3 was going to end up being better than Andrew Luck and you know
Starting point is 00:45:40 I think it was fairly reasonable but it ended up being absolutely moronic so Lamar Jackson needs to stay healthy I don't think you should feel that bad about that one yeah I don't either I think it was fairly reasonable, but it ended up being absolutely moronic. So Lamar Jackson needs to stay healthy. I don't think you should feel that bad about that one. Yeah, I don't either. RG3 got hurt. Kyler Murray could get hurt too.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Kyler Murray, he's a little guy that's going to run a lot as well. Remember how good RG3 was as a rookie? Yeah, he was amazing. But you could tell that he was starting to break down toward the end of that year. Physically, he was taking hits, and he was starting to break down toward the end of that year. Physically, he was taking hits, and he was slow to get up, and he wasn't moving quite the same way.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And it's not like if you missed out on Andrew Luck in Dynasty. You missed out on two good years. Okay, I'm sorry for sidetracking here. From Tyler, I currently have James Conner and Chris Carson in full PPR Dynasty. I already have pick 1.5 and 1.11. I'm excited about the class
Starting point is 00:46:29 and might consider trading the aforementioned running backs for more picks. Connor and Carson, he's saying he wants to trade for more picks. Is this a big brain move or am I sabotaging myself?
Starting point is 00:46:39 My other running backs are Brita and Coleman. This is exactly the type of move you should make every year. And I know like Heath and I kind of disagree, but running backs are Brita and Coleman. This is exactly the type of move you should make every year. And I know like Heath and I kind of disagree, but running backs are depreciating assets. These guys are both 25. They are never going to have more value than they have right now.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Even if they come back and both have good years this year, they're going to be 26 year old running backs and they're going to be 27 year old running backs. No one trades a lot of value for an aging running back. It just doesn't happen in dynasty leagues. Yes, they can help you win now, but this is the type of move that I make all the time in dynasty. I think it's a smart move.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I don't believe that there is a huge market for, maybe James Conner's traps will help this, but I don't believe there's a huge market for connor or carson in dynasty they're both viewed as guys with pretty fragile futures yes i'm not dealing those guys for like second round picks and i don't think you're getting picks better than 1.11 if you could package carson and 1.11 for a top six pick then yeah do it if you could package connor and 1.11 for a top four pick then sure do it but i'm not trading Connor and 1.11 for a top four pick, then sure, do it. But I'm not trading those guys for second round picks.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't know if Ben was saying that he would or not, but I don't think you can get a first rounder for them. No, I think that was a very reasonable and level-headed response, actually. All right, so we got three more of these Apple podcast questions. First one's going to Dave. Second one's going to Heath. Third one's going to Ben.
Starting point is 00:48:04 From Medic Nick, I'm taking over a team with Zeke, Josh Jacobs, Aaron Jones, and Kyler Murray. In half PPR, which three should I keep? You have to throw back one, Dave. Zeke, Jacobs, Aaron Jones, and Kyler. I'll throw back Kyler.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Okay. This is Heath from KJM1978. Half PPR, four point per passing touchdown league. Josh Jacobs in the third or Lamar Jackson in the eighth? I've got to take Lamar Jackson. From Lewis, north of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's Newcastle, he explains. Hey, Johnny, Steve, Chris, and Bam.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Oh, that's Jackass. I's jackass if we could say it we already said Schitt's Creek I think we could say jackass I was on the clock at 1.3 in the rookie draft and Clyde Edwards was there did you lean into your bike to say that
Starting point is 00:49:03 he whispered it softly in our ears. Hey, real quick, Heath, what's your Instagram account if people wanted to follow what you do in your life? Heath's Meat. Heath's Meat. Thank you. All right, so Ben, Lewis was on the clock at 1.3 in the rookie draft. Clyde Edwards-Elair was there. All of a sudden, I got a notification for a trade,
Starting point is 00:49:24 which was my 1.3 2021 second rounder and Kenyon Drake. And I would get his 2021 second rounder and Christian McCaffrey. And I took it. Did I make a good move?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah. Yeah, you did. The swapping of 2021 seconds, whatever value you think is there isn't and i would trade mcafree for the 103 and drake for sure all right i would acquire mcafree in that scenario now it's time for emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com dynasty emails davin flint wants to know is there a smart way to start a startup dynasty team oh sorry is there a smart way to draft a startup dynasty team when you have rookies involved? Hearing a lot about rookies being drafted separately from veterans.
Starting point is 00:50:11 However, the dynasty startup I'm in is doing a draft with everyone in the pool. And being on the last place team for picking, I have the eighth pick out of eight. I'm wondering when it would be smart to draft Clyde Edwards, a layer or another rookie. Okay. Well, first of all, that is, that is how like the startup drafts include everyone. Then the subsequent drafts year after year,
Starting point is 00:50:33 just the rookies. I can just say broadly, I don't know about when you would draft Clyde over to layer, but broadly rookies and startup drafts are profitable moves. They typically go later than people expect. They hold their value. Even if they have poor rookie seasons, they can be more productive in year one than people give them credit for. And even if they're bad, you can like, like I said,
Starting point is 00:50:53 they hold their value unless they're horrible, unless they're in a kill Harry, then they lose value or JJ or Sega white side. But even guys that are poor, like David Montgomery is still, you can still trade him this off season for plenty of value. Is Ronald Jones an example of that? Yeah, he would be an example of the guy that lost a ton of value. Okay. I'm going to read...
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah, but there are also ones that shoot up, right? Like A.J. Brown. Last year you could have probably drafted him in the ninth round. Amazing that you brought up A.J. Brown. I'm just going to read something though. I'm just going to read something, though. I'm just going to read just for the benefit of our listeners. Startup draft that we did a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Startup Dynasty League. Heath, was this a super flex league? I believe it was, right? Yep. Okay, I'm just going to read the first two rounds. McCaffrey, Barkley, Kamara, Zeke, Mixon, Michael Thomas, Dalvin Cook,
Starting point is 00:51:47 Miles Sanders, Clyde Edwards-Elair, ninth overall, to me, for some reason. That makes sense. Devante Adams, Patrick Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:51:55 Tyreek Hill, Chris Goblin, Hopkins, Juju, Josh Jacobs, Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, Lamar Jackson,
Starting point is 00:52:03 J.K. Dobbins, Mike Evans, Kenyon Drake, DJ Moore, and Kyler Murray. Hope that helps. From Nick, grade the trade in a 12-team PPR Dynasty League. Gave up Justin Jefferson and Emmanuel Sanders. Received Michael
Starting point is 00:52:18 Gallup and Naeem Hines. Yeah, I think I like that for you. A? Yeah, i like gallup more than jefferson considerably yeah it's a good one and how long is emmanuel sanders gonna have i i don't think he didn't last year i don't know what the odds are that emmanuel sanders ever is ever in your lineup and heinz by all indications should have some pPR value but yep it is interesting to like Gallup I don't disagree but to like Gallup significantly more than Jefferson Jefferson was a first round pick I kind of raise my eyebrow with that Heath you want to give a 20 second explanation um I don't really think like I just don't really think, like, I just don't really think that lamb has had that big of an impact on
Starting point is 00:53:08 Gallup in my perception. And he was awesome last year. I think he's a borderline number two wide receiver this year. And there's a chance that Amari Cooper's gone after this year, contract wise, and it's just Gallup and lamb. Okay. This is from really fun team names with lamb and Gallup.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah. This is from some really fun team names with lamb and gallop yeah this is from no name but it's a peaky blinders reference dear tommy arthur john and alfie 12 team half ppr dynasty league last week i was offered david montgomery juju smith schuster and jared cook for kittle and fournette So he would have given up Kittle and Fournette to get Montgomery, Juju, and Cook. I turned it down, but I'm unsure if I did the right thing. What do you guys think? You didn't. You would have taken that. Yeah, I think Juju and Kittle are just about a push for me.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And I would rather have David Montgomery than Leonard Fournette right now yeah and i actually would take juju over kiddo but i agree kiddo should be really close to juju but yeah that's what i was thinking too i don't think jared cook has much value but fornette i'd rather montgomery to fornette too they could both be crapola by 2021 i like kiddo better than juju this email is from Eli. I know you guys are doing a Dynasty mailbag, so here it goes. My friends and I are starting an eight-team
Starting point is 00:54:30 Dynasty League. In the past, we've done 12 and 10-team leagues, but people kept dropping out and we felt like we had a solid eight to start one out. I'm just wondering what format and scoring you would recommend for Dynasty startups. It's going to be PPR and we'll do FAB. I want to do like 25 to 30 rounds. I keep saying it should be a 2QB league, especially if it's going to be PPR and we'll do fab I want to do like 25 to 30 rounds I keep saying it should
Starting point is 00:54:46 be a 2qb league uh especially if it's eight teams how many rounds and what format yeah so how many rounds in what format do you recommend than anything else we should add I would also say you should do at least three running backs at least probably five receivers this goes right to the the stuff we talked about about earlier this offseason about the future of fantasy. People should use deeper lineups anyways, but if you're going to do an eight-man dynasty league, I think you should require everyone to start a lot more players
Starting point is 00:55:14 at every position. Probably two tight ends too. You can get away with two quarterbacks and two tight ends. I might go two running backs with that and three receivers and maybe one flex or maybe scrap the second tight oh here's what you do do a super flex then then you don't have to do two quarterbacks you can do a quarterback yeah two running backs three receivers two tight ends
Starting point is 00:55:40 and a super flex yeah I'm just saying add like three to five starting spots over what you just said, Dave. Like a lot. You could, yeah. Also go IDP. Sure. You can do IDP as well, but there should be if not three running backs then have like three flexes and two quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:56:01 There's nothing that makes less sense to me than drafting a whole bunch of players and putting most of them on your bench. start you drafted them so start them i would also say 30 rounds i play in a lot of 30 round 12 team leagues it's not as deep as it sounds and especially in an eight team league if you don't go 30 rounds you're gonna have really good players just available well and i think like in a dynasty league you're trying to make it like the nfl there's not a lot of players sitting on the waiver wire in the NFL. And there are a lot of players sitting on benches in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:56:29 So that's okay. And there will be plenty of players on your bench, even if you add a number of starters to your lineup. I didn't mean to say start everyone. But I play in one dynasty that's two running backs and three wide receivers. What's the point? I have so many guys on my bench. It's so annoying.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Okay. Jason from Spurberry. Hey, Farva, Thorny, and Captain John, if Ben is on the pod, he's definitely the German guy that got caught speeding. I don't know. I can't pull over any further. That guy.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I can't. I don't remember. I walked out of that movie, by the way. But then I learned to love it, so don't hate me for it. Okay. 12 team dynasty half PPR must start four wide receivers
Starting point is 00:57:11 a flex and a tight end and a super flex. I'm giving up Julio Jones, Cam Akers, Zach Moss and a 2021 third round pick. So he's giving up Julio, Akers,, and a 2021 third-round pick. So he's giving up Julio, Akers, Moss, and a 2021 third-round pick.
Starting point is 00:57:31 That's a pretty sizable amount to give up. It's a large package. Receiving option one, Edwards Elair, Damian Williams, Tyler Lockett, Will Fuller, and a 2021 second-round pick. Or receiving option two, Christian McCaffrey and Reggie Bonifan. Would you take either of these? Yes. I'd take McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah, I think I would. I don't think I would. I know it sounds crazy. I don't think I would. I know it sounds crazy. I don't know. I'm in for the first option. Edwards, Hilaire, Lockett, Fuller, and the earlier pick in the 2021 draft. I like that, too.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I do feel like you're giving up a lot in the short term for McCaffrey. It feels like a lot. Julio plus Cam Akers plus Zach Moss. Julio is a guy, though, that getting back to where I was saying with the 25-year-old running backs, he's another guy that I think in dynasty, you try to trade him a year early because when they fall off, their value goes so far down. You could turn him into some really good young running backs that can help you in 2022 and 2023.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Julio might not be able to. Do you see any evidence of Julio slowing down? Not yet. I think you could probably squeeze maybe three more years out of him. Maybe. Okay, so ready for rapid fire to finish the show? Yep. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Matt Griffith says, I'm in a dynasty league. I need a starting running back. I want to offer either Ruggs or Higgins for a running back. Which wide receiver should I trade, and who should I target at running back? I would prefer to trade Higgins. But I don't think you can get a running back
Starting point is 00:59:21 that would help you for Higgins. I don't. Ruggs. I'm looking at your you for him. Right. Um, I don't rugs. I'm looking at your trade chart, Heath, and you've got rugs slightly out of Ronald Jones and guys. Yeah. I think I'd rather have rugs. You've got four net way down.
Starting point is 00:59:40 That's a good one to try. Yeah. I'd rather have hunt. I'd rather have hunt than rugs for sure. Really? That's interesting. That's kind of wishing, that's a good one to try yeah I'd rather have Hunt I'd rather have Hunt than Ruggs for sure really that's interesting that's kind of wishing
Starting point is 00:59:49 hoping for the best for him I mean Ruggs or Hunt or Hunt well the idea is with Hunt he eventually escapes
Starting point is 00:59:57 Cleveland has a couple years as a starter it's kind I think it's more likely that Kareem Hunt helps you this year than Ruggs for sure
Starting point is 01:00:04 yeah but yeah but I think Ruggs this year than Ruggs for sure. Yeah, but I think Ruggs probably long-term. Ruggs is still going to be a Raider. Yeah, but the Raiders can always find a new quarterback after this year. All right, this wasn't rapid fire. Let's try again. That's rapid fire. Now we're starting rapid fire.
Starting point is 01:00:20 From No Name, I put Christian McCaffrey on the trade block to see what kind of offers I could get. I've received some interesting ones. One offer is Kenyon Drake, Julio Jones, and a 2021 first for McCaffrey and Will Fuller. Would you do that? No.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Okay. Grade the dynasty trade from Tony in a city somewhere or another. This is like all picks. Give 2020 1.7. He has picked 7 and 11 this year in the rookie draft. Give the seventh overall pick. Get pick 2.11, a 2021
Starting point is 01:00:54 first, and a 2022 second. I'm taking that deal. F. F minus. F minus? You're moving back four spots. You got an extra first in 2021. No, he's moving back around in four spots.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Around in four spots. Oh, I read it wrong. I'm a moron. I still would do this. Heath, why would you give that an F? That's too far to move back. I like seven a lot. Yeah, but you're getting a first.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I'm going to get a player that I like. There's 2.11 is just 100% a dart throw. And we don't know what this first round pick is going to be next year. You might be able to get Chenault at 2.11. I've seen him go that way. AJ Dillon, Zach Moss. I don't think it's such a dart throw.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I think you can get a reasonable pick and then you get a first next year. Yeah, but the first could be late. I get what Heath's saying with it. You're guaranteed one of these guys at 1.07. You're going to get Judy or one but the first could be late. I get what Heath's saying with it. You're guaranteed one of these guys at 107. You're going to get Judy. You're going to get Judy or one of the top five running backs. Yeah. I think next year is going to be even better.
Starting point is 01:01:53 You just don't know where that one's going to be. That's not enough to move back around and change. The quarterbacks next year are going to be even more. I think in a dynasty league that Trevor Lawrence is going to be a top seven pick. He's going to go well ahead of Burrow, I would guess. I disagree.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I think he'll go as soon as somebody needs a quarterback next year. It'll be the same thing with that having a Burrow. Most leagues will probably be a late first and rookie only. Alright, now we're starting rapid fire. Now we're done. Rapid fire. Say goodbye to everybody. I appreciate all the emails, everybody. This was fun. Always
Starting point is 01:02:35 when I see emails in the inbox, it's just I love connecting with the listeners. I appreciate it so much. There will be an article on the site with more Dynasty questions being answered tomorrow. There you go. A mailbag? Who's writing that, Heath?
Starting point is 01:02:49 What's that? Who's writing that? I am. Oh, that's right. And I recommend reading Ben's Advanced Stats 101 article. You know, anything I said. We're going Heath right now. No, no.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Chris didn't write anything this week, so he's got to find somebody else to write. We're out of here, everybody. Have a great weekend. We've got another show coming on Monday and I think Tuesday and Thursday. So it's Bold Prediction Week next week. So we're looking forward to that. We'll talk to you then.
Starting point is 01:03:18 See you.

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