Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag! Plus Fantasy Cops (08/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 31, 2024

It's a laugh-out-loud mailbag edition and we've got your emails (4:40) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com, the Fantasy Cops (16:50), more emails (23:00), Draftathon questions (40:00), Apple Podcast comments ...(51:00) and YouTube questions (57:30). We talk Superflex, best ways to start your draft, players to add off of waivers and more.  Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Yeah, it's mailbag time. And it's evening mailbag time. Schaefer just makes an appearance at the beginning of the show. It's a 9 o'clock start, man. Like, we're going to be weird tonight, no question. Stop celebrating, okay? Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM,
Starting point is 00:01:41 the sportsbook born in Vegas. Adam Azer here with Jamie Eisenberg and some other guy. Dude, I'll tell you after the show. But congratulations. I want to let you know that we have a new viewer today watching for the first time. The tennis pro at where we played. My tennis coach. Before you go on, are you sure you want to say his name? Because after the way you played, he might lose business.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's not his fault. It's not his fault. But he gave me some tips after the fact. So I feel like I'll be ready next year. For those of you who don't know, Dan whooped me 6-2-6-0. Congratulations, Dan. Thank you, Adam. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:24 After a match, I watched back on the replay, and there were some things that I wish I could improve on, to be completely honest with you, Adam. I felt good about my serve. I felt good about how many times you slammed your racket on the court. I felt good about making you audibly yell, you know what, that we won't repeat on this show.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Unfamily-friendly comments. And you know what? In the end, it was a lot of fun. I thought you were going to have somewhat of a good time, but in the end, I kind of understood when you were like, I was super disappointed. I was super disappointed, but we had like 28,000 people watch that video, watch the stream, which is insane. That was the insane part that it actually got to that number. At one point it was 18,000, which was absurd. Um, and my, it just never expected that many people to care about this, but you know, it was a good time, Adam.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And in the end, I thought you played pretty well. I really did. I think the difference was you're, you need to get a little bit more power on your strokes, which will come with time. And it was hard for me to generate pace off of your pace. A lot of people are talking about, I didn't hit with that much base, but those people have to understand tennis. You need pace to generate pace, unless you're a really good player,
Starting point is 00:03:25 and I'm definitely not that. You're pretty good. All right, let's take a look at some, let's take a look at one of the highlights here. It looks as if, all right, go ahead, sorry. Boom, racket on the ground. Oh man, this was such a bad shot. Like this was me trying to kind of go for it a little bit
Starting point is 00:03:41 with like a down the line winner, and I just, yeah, slammed around it. Especially with a serve that's spinning into your body you got to just block that back you're just going for too much i don't know for a lot the whole match and at one point adam so one thing that people notice who watched the match oh my god this is an amazing for those watching on video a credible graphic by thomas our producer but one thing that you know adam said to me at one point was i am and I warned the fans of this. I am a big talk to myself after points.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Come on, Dan, what are you doing? Hit the ball. And Adam was like, shh, at one point, like, quiet down. We're at my club. And then across from us, I don't know if you heard this on the stream, Jamie. Across from us, there's these two dudes who showed up like 20 minutes after we start playing. And they're screaming the entire time, like yelling out. So I was like, Adam, I think we're all right.
Starting point is 00:04:25 All right. Well, congratulations. Go ahead, Jamie. We'll move on after this. No, I have two things. First off, I watched for like 30 seconds and it was embarrassing for the two of you. So it was done. Second of all,
Starting point is 00:04:36 I don't know what your shirt says, Dan, but the microphone placement is very bad. And it looks like it's a bad word. Yeah, it's really bad. Where? City field. City field. microphone placement is very bad yeah it looks like it's a bad word yeah it's really bad where city field city field yeah look what it says in the private chat okay just i tell you what it says you don't think i could have put two and two together there adam okay yeah i don't know how to do this though microphone so this won't happen there's the big the word where is just huge on his chest. W-H-E-R-E. But unfortunately, the microphone is covering the E.
Starting point is 00:05:10 It's unbelievable. It's really bad. I don't really know how to fix this mic. We're just going to have to go pop it up here for the show. Here we go. Our email address is fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. I've got emails. I've got only one Apple podcast question
Starting point is 00:05:25 because it's being like flooded with five-star reviews for Jamie's league. Jamie can't take it. I got a lot of questions, though, so let's get to it. This is from Bo. Bo says, I was wondering how many players from one team...
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, my God. Jamie looks like a tomato right now. Circle back, Adam, by the way, at the end for a review of the diner, your touted diner, because you obviously want to hear my review on the show. Yes. Yes,
Starting point is 00:05:47 absolutely. Jamie is cracking up. I was wondering how many players from one team is too many to start in my fantasy lineup. I got Pacheco, um, where his ADP is, but my homes and rice,
Starting point is 00:05:59 both fell to me. My homes and rice both fell to me later in the draft. Should I keep all of those Chiefs or look to make a trade? We cannot take it. What do you think, Dan? Is three Chiefs too many? I think the E is pretty clear now. I think we've remedied the situation to some degree.
Starting point is 00:06:22 With that said, there's no amount of Chiefs. That's too many amount of Chiefs for me this year. It's the team I'm buying into the most. I have Rice on an absurd amount of roster. I think he's my most roster player this fantasy season. Same with Xavier Worthy, though his price is a little up now. Now I gravitate toward Hollywood Brown. All three of them
Starting point is 00:06:39 big. Pacheco, I rostered more at the beginning of the season. His price tag has gone up. Mahomes is the quarterback I'm depending on. I think Mahomes is going $5,000. His price tag has gone up and my homes is the quarterback ending up. I think my home is going 5,000 this year and I think he's going 40 plus TD. So I'm in Alex in Chicago. Jamie, if you're, if you're there is picking third and a two wide receiver PPR league.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Would you rather, he's going to take a Lamar Hill. Would you rather have Debo or cup to pair with them? Debo still 100% Debo. Even to pair with them? Debo. Still. 100% Debo. Even with the IUK news. Yeah, I'm still somewhat out on IUK. I'm glad he signed.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I'm glad it's a done deal. But I still think it's going to be a huge, huge, huge year for Debo. All right. We're going to save. So by the time most people listen to this, they'll already have heard Jamie's reaction on Friday morning show to the IUK stuff. So we're not going to really react to that. Dave and I just did a bonus pod that you can hear or watch. This is from Dan.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I've been doing mock draft. That way you're wearing red. For what? For Iuke? Yeah. No, this was, I changed after the podcast actually,
Starting point is 00:07:36 but, but sure we can go with that. What bad word does your shirt say? Mine says Bushwood country club, which Dan doesn't get. You know what Bushwood Country Club is? No, of course not. Jamie?
Starting point is 00:07:48 No. This guy claims he's a golfer who's never seen Caddyshack. Come on, Dan. Come on, Dan. It's bad. It's bad. This is the Caddy shirt from Caddyshack. I've been doing mock drafts lately, and when I'm drafting at the 8, 9, 10 spots,
Starting point is 00:08:02 I find myself debating between taking Jonathan Taylor or a receiver like St. Brown, A.J. Brown, or Garrett Wilson. I like to try to get a good running back early. I've been hearing that Taylor has number one running back upside if he stays healthy. Okay, I'm just going to say this, Dan. If Amonra St. Brown is there, it's not even a question. We're taking Amonra St. Brown. But I'll let Dan and Jamie tell you about Jonathan Taylor versus A.J's not even a question. We're taking Amon Ross and Brown, but I'll let Dan and, uh, and Jamie tell you about Jonathan Taylor versus AJ Brown or Garrett Wilson. Yeah. I mean, there's not too many scenarios where I'd be taking Jonathan Taylor over
Starting point is 00:08:34 Garrett Wilson or AJ Brown. I just think the targets are there for both Garrett Wilson and AJ Brown. Garrett Wilson could be a massive touchdown getter with Aaron Rogers. So we saw back in 2021, uh, with Aaron Rogersgers. We saw back in 2021 with Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams and just throughout training camp, slow start for Mike Williams. He might play week one for the Jets. I think he's probably trending toward it, but snap count, I would think. He's expected to play now, I think. Expected to play. Probably not full role, but maybe.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Either way, I'm buying in on Wilson. So I just think that's probably the cutoff for me, and then I can start considering running backs, but I wouldn't take him over either of those two. I think the thing you have to ask yourself is, would you rather have A.J. Brown and Jameer Gibbs, Kyron Williams, Isaiah Pacheco, Travis Etienne, that start? Or would you rather have Jonathan Taylor and maybe Marvin Harrison,
Starting point is 00:09:22 probably the next group of guys, you know, so Adams, Waddle, Collins, you know, those, those types of receivers, like if you're going to go running back receiver, so London, you know, any one of those guys, Jamie, don't read one of the comments here. You're going to lose it again. It's about the head shirt, but anyway, how do you rank them, Jamie, though? How do you rank A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Jonathan Taylor? In that order.
Starting point is 00:09:53 What about in half PPR? In that order. What about in non PPR? Taylor goes top four for me. Okay. And then one more question here for now from Travis in Travis County, Texas. Oh, that's cool. I'd love to be from Adam County. Hello, Dan, Jacob, Scott, and Chris.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Who are they? Dan, Jacob. Oh, those feel like, hmm. No, I don't know. They kind of feel like. Dan, Jacob, Scott, and Chris. Kind of feel like Rangers pitchers or something. I mean, they're all people on our staff, but I don't think that's who of feel like... Dan, Jacob, Scott, and Chris? They kind of feel like Rangers pitchers or something. They're all people on our staff,
Starting point is 00:10:25 but I don't think that's who he's referring to. Could be. I mean, maybe I just... We don't really have anything in common, though, I don't think. So he wants to talk about how we discussed the top 17 running backs and how there's a pretty big drop from 17 to 18. We looked at a draft that we did recently where the number 17 running back went in the fourth round
Starting point is 00:10:44 and then the number 18 running back went in the sixth round. So we do see it that way. He says, why are you only taking one or two of the top 17 running backs? Shouldn't you continue to take them as long as they are on the board? And then after you're done, you can finish your draft taking only wide receivers until handcuff time. So then he showed us a mock draft in a 12-team half PPR league, two receivers, with the 10th pick. His first four picks were Jonathan Taylor, Jameer Gibbs, Ken Walker, and Rashad White.
Starting point is 00:11:16 That's, I mean, yeah, that's somewhat realistic, I guess. Yeah. Well, I mean, I just did this in a three-receiver league. You took four running backs? I did in an RIDP league. Right. What'd you get? I took Brees Hall, Jameer Gibbs, and Josh Jacobs with my first three picks.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And then my receivers are Devante Smith, Amari Cooper, and Christian Kirk. Right. Now, this is an analyst league, so take that into account. I think if you're doing it where receivers don't get pushed up so much and you're sort of setting the market that way now there's probably gonna be more quarterbacks i was i was at an event today um in in delray beach and um some people were showing me their drafts and like you you know we we say it this this guy said to me he like, look at this draft board. Somebody took Josh Allen fifth overall, you know, and those things happen, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So you're going to get quarterbacks earlier. You're going to get, it's not across the board, you know, but you get quarterbacks earlier. You're going to get the tight ends pushed up, you know, where we actually see Travis Kelsey's ADP in round two. And, you know, Laporta goes round three and so forth. So if you do decide to, you know, try that strategy of taking, you know, two of the top 17 running backs, or in this case, three of the top 17 running backs, especially in a two receiver league, you're going to be able to pull it off a lot, a lot better. And a three receiver league is a little tougher. Yeah. And I want to point out, so, so Jamie's
Starting point is 00:12:37 first three picks again, were, were Hall, Gibbs, Josh Jacobs, his receivers were Kirk, Devante Smith, Amari Cooper, Christian Kirk. But then this is the other point that the emailer was making. We like that group later. You also have Jaden Reed and Jamison Williams. So you can still have good receivers, even if you try to take as many of those top 17 running backs. Four seems like a lot. One of those is going to be a bench player. So I don't know if I do that. But three, okay. Like you, you made it work this because he has Malik neighbors on this team. He has Kyle Pitts. He has Deontay Johnson, JSN. He made it work different ways to do it. For me. I mean, I play in a lot of leagues, so I like to try different things to see how it works.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You know, like obviously there are leagues that are a little bit more important to me. Not that I, I try any less in, in less harder in, in harder in in any of them but i like to try different strategies and and this just fell this way so at the time in round three it was like to me josh jacobs has become a second round pick so gibbs is a borderline first round pick like i wasn't passing up on these these players and i'm like okay let me see if i could make it happen, I need you to rank something for me. I think you're going to have a strong take on this. I just had the following four fruits. It's strawberries, blackberries, blueberries, and raspberries. Rank them.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Okay. First of all, are we talking ripe across the board? Yeah, yeah. It was delicious. Yeah. Because that's the thing. Blueberries and raspberries are very – they don't have a good ripe ratio. Like you get a lot of sour, you get a lot of not ready. So we're saying the best of each of them, correct? I think it was a terrific batch of fruit. Yeah. Terrific batch. Okay. Once we got blueberries, raspberries,
Starting point is 00:14:15 strawberries, and what blackberries and blackberries. I mean, if you're getting a real good, sweet, ripe blackberry, that's going to be the one one for me now this is a thing most blackberries are sour and tardy and not that good and some are even like bitter they're so unripe to be completely honest with you so i'm just gonna say i don't really think this is a good question because you're not really telling it the right way but if we're going with the best of the best it's still going to be blackberry one raspberry raspberry two, blueberry three, strawberry four. But this is the best of the best. On a consistency basis, you're better off.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Again, strawberry is the one. If you're just going by, what do you normally get? You normally get. Please put Robert's comment up. What is it? 20-minute Dan Berry rant incoming. That's why I asked him because I love that. He gives really thoughtful answers. I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I love it. Passionate about all things in life. Cracky D says, I love Dan's takes. Love his humor. That's what I do too. I love this. It's strawberries one, raspberries two, blueberries three, blackberries four. A good blackberry. You guys have never had a good... Jamie, you've never had a good blackberry. First of all,
Starting point is 00:15:23 Jamie's never had a sweet, ripe blackberry've never had a good blackberry. We've never had a good blackberry. I'm pretty sure Jamie's never had a sweet, ripe blackberry. There's no good fruit in New Jersey. There's no good fruit in New Jersey. Have you ever heard of the Garden State? That's literally what we're called. We have farms and good fruit everywhere. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Okay, all you guys have is oranges down there. You've never had a good blackberry. You have never, all they have is blackberries. I don't think Jamie's ever had a good blackberry. I think he's only had tart and bitter blackberries. I really believe that. I mostly agree with Jamie's rankings had a good blackberry. I think he's only had tart and bitter blackberries. I really believe that. I mostly agree with Jamie's rankings. I switch blueberries and raspberries.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I go strawberry, blueberry, raspberry. And a great raspberry. They're all good. I mean, they're all good except blackberry. I actually lied. I didn't have any blackberries because I hate blackberries. They're like the round four pick. It's 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and then pick 4.1 as blackberries.
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Starting point is 00:16:37 We'll be right back with the Fantasy Cops on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic. A quick locate request can save you from unexpected downtime, financial penalties, and keep you safe. Don't let avoidable damage cost you time and money. Click before you dig. Ensure your next project is safe. Visit OntarioOneCall.ca. It's free.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. All right, welcome back, everybody. It's time for the Fantasy Cops. And this is a special edition of the Fantasy Cops. If you have any commissioner issues, league issues throughout the year, send an email to fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
Starting point is 00:17:27 That's the letter I. And put fantasy cops in the subject line. Now, last week, we had an email from Fresno Phil talking about how some people in the league, two people in the league, one of them was a commissioner, one of them I think was the commissioner's wife, didn't get their keepers in on time. And the keeper deadline was last night. Two of our managers forgot to set their keepers. One of them gave the usual excuses.
Starting point is 00:17:49 The other manager is the commissioner. It's a scandal wrapped up in a conflict of interest. How do we resolve this potentially league-altering fiasco? That's what Fresno Phil said. Today, we get the rebuttal from someone in the league. From Kevin. Kevin says, first of of all love the show and hearing about our league in the segment on saturday was the funniest thing to ever happen in the league's
Starting point is 00:18:12 nine-year history and thank you to phil too i suppose however it should be noted that over the years our league has developed a catchphrase of sort a catchphrase of sorts which is used on a weekly basis during the regular season and that catchphrase is ph, which is used on a weekly basis during the regular season. And that catchphrase is, Phil sucks. So keep that in mind. In response to Dan's comment that this is a horrible rule, the worst I've ever heard,
Starting point is 00:18:34 the dumbest I've ever heard, I think the rule was that if they didn't set their keepers, they were like out, right? They couldn't keep anybody. Oh, they couldn't keep anybody. I think I referred to this commissioner as a menace to society,
Starting point is 00:18:44 and I stand by that statement. And I stand by that statement. Yes. Of course, it's terrible rule. It's a joke. Like Phil said in his email, we've threatened the punishment for years, but we've never actually done it. And we never will probably. And somebody misses the deadline every single year. The worst we've ever done, because we thought it was funny, was fine a manager $20 to essentially buy back their keepers. The manager was fine with it. And we use the money to add another bonus money week to the season. So now, now that commissioner number two and my wife have paid their fines and
Starting point is 00:19:13 retain their keepers. The real question for the fantasy cops is what should we do with the extra money in the league pot? Add another bonus money week or two, buy something fun for the league, donate to St. Jude and PS Phil sucks. Well, I mean, you know what we're going to say,
Starting point is 00:19:30 we're going to say donate to St. Jude. I think that's the easy one for us, but if you've already done that, let's assume you've already donated to our draft on cause another option I would lean toward is putting it toward a loser penalty, whatever that may be the last place penalty. Oh, I like that. Apparently, according to one of our commenters, Menace to Society was what you said about the new owner who immediately tried to start a coup.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Okay. I knew one of those people were Menace to Society, maybe not you. I'm sorry, Phil. No, I'm not sorry, Phil. You don't sound like a great guy. Phil, I appreciate it. Phil, you sound like someone that has given a lot of... Yeah, Dan doesn't know that reference.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Phil? Is that Hangover? No. No, it's Groundhog Day, right, Jamie? Yeah. Make sure I'm getting that. Okay, I know all my Bill Murray movies. All right, this one.
Starting point is 00:20:18 This one says, Dear Serena, Billie Jean, Venus, and Steffi. Women tennis players. Yeah. U.S US Open winners. In 2023, we founded a Dynasty Money League. One manager drafted an extreme win-now team. All old guys.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And he flipped six rookie draft picks, including two firsts, which resulted in his team winning the 2023 championship. Next, he quit the league following draining assets and positioning this dynasty team for future failure. We even gifted the orphaned manager a free year. Said manager never expressed any regret. Now the manager wants to stay in our league chat following taking advantage of us.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Should we boot this manager from our chat wait what was the last word he wants to stay in league chat for what reason to make fun of them no he said they took he took advantage of us now he wants to stay in our league chat should we boot this manager who won the dynasty league sold his team out for the future and quit is he oh no i have a much better idea than that you don't boot him you leave him in the chat you berate him you make it clear that this guy is a terrible, terrible, terrible human being. I'm not, I'm not stopping him. He's not a bad manager.
Starting point is 00:21:29 He's not a, he's a bad person. This is a bad habit. Like this is a bad faith decision by him. And I want him in that chat. So you guys can just find creative ways to roast him, rip him apart, tell him how bad he is, you know, you know, hope he slips and he falls and he doesn't get too hurt, but he gets a little hurt. Yeah. Just a little injury, you know, a one or two weaker type of thing, that type of thing. You know, this is a bad dude. He just did the literal worst thing you can do in
Starting point is 00:21:53 fantasy outside of collusion. In my opinion, that's such a bad move for dynasty and people do that. And that's why people ask to pay two years in advance. And I think that's a good thing for leagues that you, where you don't really know everyone and you hope this doesn't happen in your league, but I'm not, I I'm out on this dude. So is the chat just a fantasy chat or is it like a French chat that like fantasy league involved?
Starting point is 00:22:15 I hope it's a former. Uh, I, I can tell, I have some insight on the league, but I have to make sure I'm okay to, I'm okay to talk about it. Because your official position is that this is a bad person who deserves to be injured, Dan?
Starting point is 00:22:31 I'm not going to say injured, because that was a little too far. I got a little caught up, and I had a little fun there. I don't want him injured or her injured. I don't know if it's he or she. Okay, because I'm going to tell you, this league is YouTube audience members who are here now, who started this league last year amongst themselves. Well, again, I don't want any injuries. I take that back.
Starting point is 00:22:55 They just all met each other for the – they don't know each other prior to this. No, they know each other through our show. It's actually pretty cool. That is cool. Yeah. What a way to ruin that by doing something like this person did. No, they should.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Do we know that like they left just because they won? Probably. I mean, the guy traded all his assets in the future, ruin the team from a dynasty standpoint, and then quit the league. I don't understand how that's like acceptable in any way, shape,
Starting point is 00:23:23 or form. I agree. I don't think they should die, according to you. No, not die. I said a small injury. And I take it back. Okay. Maybe a twisted angle, you know, a low ankle sprain.
Starting point is 00:23:35 All right. Thank you for your Fantasy Cop submissions. Let's get some more emails here and help the people. This is from Brad. What are the Eagles going to do with Brown and Smith? Kellen Moore produces superstar receivers from the slot. If Brown will be in the slot, I think he has wide receiver one upside.
Starting point is 00:23:50 If it's Devante, he could easily be a top 10 wide receiver like Keenan Allen last year. I haven't heard how the Eagles plan to deploy them this year. I mean, I think they're going to move them around. So they both get opportunities to play in, in, in the slot and obviously on the outside.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And the addition of Jahan Dotson is going to also change some of those things and how they operate. So it's why I like both, you know, I, I think AJ Brown's proven to have the higher ceiling in the two years that he's been there.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I don't know why anybody would, would think differently and certainly no one's drafting differently, but I do think that as we've talked about, and Adam, you had a great comparison to Brandon and I, you can San Francisco a year ago, you know, just in terms of all the hype that Devante Smith has been getting that it's hard to overlook that he has the chance for a big year and and the you know correct me if I'm wrong but you're referencing that all the positive vibes that were coming out of San Francisco about Ayuk
Starting point is 00:24:39 that he was just dominating camp and he looks like he's set up for a big season it's been similar conversations in Philadelphia. So the thing that I love about Devante Smith and Dan and I were kind of going back and forth about this a little bit in our salary cap draft today is that Devante Smith's floor is a wide receiver too, whether it's top 15, top 20, you know, he's, he's got the opportunity to be in that range, top 24, top 25. You know, you want to extend it to the blob. However you want to frame it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We've seen in each of the last two years when someone has missed time and it's mostly been Dallas Goddard, he puts up top 10 numbers and that's the upside of why you buy into Devante Smith, that he's still going to be good. You know, 13 points per game has the chance to be 18 points per game. That's hard to pass up. He's cheap enough that you can look at it and say, you don't have to draft him. You don't have to reach for him. Round four, I think, is kind of the sweet spot for him.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But A.J. Brown is still the alpha there. He proved that last year. The system is going to benefit both of them because they're going to throw more. I think they're just going to both get opportunities to be in different spots and move around. And I'll say this. I was actually the last bid against you in the Devante Smith auction,
Starting point is 00:25:49 uh, in the bidding. And you won that for me. Obviously, Jamie was taking a shot at me multiple times throughout that auction draft because of my, but some of my purchases and after the draft, and I will say this because look,
Starting point is 00:25:59 I'm very complimentary of Jamie at times. I agree with him too much as told, but to me by Adam, though, I just think he gets the first word sometimes. And I always use his rankings because I, no offense to anybody else in the staff. I like all the rankings. Jamie's the ones that align with mine the most.
Starting point is 00:26:12 With that said, I really do think that was the worst I've ever seen Jamie draft since I've been a part of the staff that, that salary cap draft we did. He did the classic mistake of just not buying anyone until all the first and second tier of both running backs and receivers were gone. And so he has like a massive depth team, but I looked at it afterwards and boy, oh boy. And then I challenged Jamie to a side bet for most points, crickets, crickets, no response. I didn't hear an except. I left the room at that point. I didn't see it. Okay. Well, now you have the opportunity. Will you accept most points? Oh, sure, absolutely. Okay, done. I didn't even see what the rest of your team looked like. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:26:47 When I said the best part about this is that I agree with you that I spent too much on Singletary by comparison to Joe Mixon because I just wanted to be done. I didn't just want to be done. It was my last roster spot to fill. Yes, I definitely waited too long. I did that purposely, but I yes i definitely waited too long i did that purposely but i definitely waited a little too long and there was a couple of times in that draft where i you know was waiting and to see what was gonna like i should have spent the extra couple dollars to get rashi rice for example or i should have spent an extra couple dollars to get
Starting point is 00:27:18 or somebody else but um i wasn't actually making fun of you at the start of this because you the three of us were actually side texting about the draft even though adam wasn't actually making fun of you at the start of this because you, the three of us were actually side texting about the draft, even though Adam wasn't in there. And you had said, I can't believe how many people are spending this much money on, on players. And then you started to overspend on a couple of guys. I wasn't critiquing the players you were getting. It just, you overspend on a couple of them. I did at some point, at some point you have to adjust to every, or every salary cap draft. It's interesting because like had a lot of, I don't want to say novice salary cap drafters, but some wild cards.
Starting point is 00:27:50 We had some wild cards in the salary cap draft, and they were just bidding up the top players. So when that happens, you get into a tough spot because everyone was overpriced at the top, and you're always looking for value. But you need to get some sort of talent on your team, I think, because I've done what you've done before, Jamie, where I was just waiting for value the whole time. It always ends up looking like your team where it's got death, but I'm playing you guys off. Okay. So we got it out about this draft that you guys did today. We can't see the results are going to be on the site tomorrow. If you like auction drafts, we're going to have every bid, every price by position. So you can use that for your auction i think you and i differ on what what talent is maybe well i i will say uh that i i think this idea that kellen moore like will move will make slot wide receivers amazing or so whatever it is
Starting point is 00:28:37 i don't really know if if it's framed the right way i just went back and i looked at i think kellen moore has coached a lot of really talented wide receivers and he uses them in the slot. That's kind of like, you know, he had used Amari Cooper in the slot. He used CeeDee Lamb in the slot. Obviously Keenan Allen was his best receiver last year and he's a slot receiver and he had a huge season. So I think he's going to use both of them in the slot and it's going to be beneficial all right this is from elliot uh half team half ppr um oh this is the league with the psycho from last week's fantasy cops the menace to society uh 10 team half pbr two receivers three flex you've been talking about uh talking about running backs lately especially in two wide receiver half p leagues, but does having three flexes change that? Yes. For me. Yes. Uh, I've made it clear and I'll make it clear again.
Starting point is 00:29:29 My strategy at least is I'm in any half or full PPR league. I'm looking to fill my flexes with wide receivers and I'm always looking to fill in the wires. There's, and I will go with the flex before I go with the tight end, but I don't like the tight ends on the board or quarterback because they're just as valuable as the quarterbacks and tight ends. And a lot of people just kind of go formulaic ABC. I call it ABC drafting where they're just look to fill out their starting positions. I remember even Adam, I gave you, you gave some advice the other day that me and you disagree. I told you, I disagreed with, which is like you take, you said like, take your quarterback or tight end by round six. I said, go specifically drafting 12th overall, it gives you,
Starting point is 00:30:05 it gives you a great opportunity to get a great tight end and a great corner quarterback. This was advice specifically for picking there. I don't think you have to take a quarterback in your tight end before your bench receivers or anything like that. But at the, at the three, four turn at the five,
Starting point is 00:30:20 six turn, I think those are really great spots for tight ends and quarterbacks. So that was just what I, but I will say this. You might, and I'm sorry then if I misconveyed that, I will say this, Adam, you may have some major stats on this, but I'm almost positive that in half and full PPR leagues, the flexes are better served with wide receivers over time. And the wide receivers have outscored the running backs in those positions, especially because you get to dead zone. Once you start trying to fill, put running backs in those flexes, guys who just turn into total busts at like entirely, in in my opinion just pure like volume based bets that we make in the preseason that don't end up
Starting point is 00:30:48 getting the volume don't end up getting touchdowns because their offenses suck like like for example like zamir white and remandre stevens and two people i want nothing to do with this season because i think they're going to be on bottom three offenses with limited scoring opportunities and might get taken off the field at times like those guys i wouldn't want to put in my flexes and a half or full PPR, personally. Okay. Guys like that. Yeah, I'm trying to find my research on that. I looked at the top 50 or 60
Starting point is 00:31:12 overall players that were not quarterbacks in each format, and in half PPR, it's pretty even between running backs and receivers. In full PPR, it leans receivers. Okay, let me make my point clear. Okay, finish up, because we really have to get to a lot. Last point on this.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I think you could be right that it could be even, but I think it's really hard to predict the running backs that are going to fit into that at this time. And we always end up overshooting guys that we expect to get volume that end up not getting volume. Any comments, Jamie, on three flexes? No, I agree with Dan. I think the funny part about this, though is like, once you fill your flex spots,
Starting point is 00:31:47 you, at least I would be okay. If you're telling me like I went here, RB, and then I'm still ending up with Steven center white in those positions. And RB two at that point. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I can see what you're saying. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, for me, I'm just completely out on Zamir white. I think if you're doing
Starting point is 00:32:06 that and they're available to you it means they've fallen so they've fallen typically past the spot where you're getting them so it's a matter of okay are you taking an additional bench receiver which is fine right and and waiting for spears or yes warren or yes or taking spears or warren or those type of running backs ahead of those other guys. It was fine. Yeah. That's what I'm doing with what you just said. All right. This is from that. Danny super flex question from Danny and from a town in Texas with the same name as the actress who plays April Lovegate,
Starting point is 00:32:38 Lupgate, April Ludgate. That's from parks and rec, right? Oh yeah. That is Audrey. Audrey. Aubrey. Aubrey. Is it Audrey? right? Oh, yeah. That is Audrey. Audrey. Aubrey.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Aubrey. Is it Audrey or Aubrey? Aubrey. Aubrey. Yeah. Okay. There's an Aubrey, Texas. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Or Plaza. I don't know. Okay. Dear Billy, Sonny, Nikki, and Happy. Gilmore's. No. You're too hasty. Billy, Sonny, Nikki, and Happy.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Adam Sandler characters thank you i mean can you even name another gilbert one thing i never really thought about is the draft drastic difference in strategy for one qb versus grandma's name the grandma's name um yeah i don't know landscaping duty your fingers hurt i get that you can start a second qb in superflex but why does everyone want to fill both spots so quickly especially when the strategy in one qb seems to be wait wait wait well i'm gonna throw it over to dan here because dan wait wait wait wait wait keep waiting for quarterback in our superflex draft yesterday so yeah this is a great great example uh jamie talks about this a lot and I, I kind of agree with him. I some, like if you never try
Starting point is 00:33:49 a different strategy in any of your leagues and you use the same strategy every time, you're never going to get to experience if there's another way to do things in another way to win. So I tried a different strategy in the super flex league. I punted quote unquote on quarterback. I did late round quarterback because I kind of agree with this listener. Like I was looking at the board and I'm like, I could rush to get to a, or whoever Lawrence is my QB too, as everybody scrambles to fill QB spots, or I could wait. And I'm not so sure. I guaranteed it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I feel the definite difference between the Gino tier of quarterbacks and that second tier of quarterbacks. And I think, you know, rich rebar did a great job breaking this down. And so is JJ, JJ, Zachary Eisenin but you're just as likely to make a bet like that back end quarterback one slash borderline quarterback one quarterback two has not been good bets historically those guys have been not from adp standpoint have not been good bets they've been just as good bets as the guys who are way down the board yes they have does that quarterback there's always one breakout there's always one breakout but historically they have not been great
Starting point is 00:34:42 bets um and typically the pocket passers, typically the pocket passers. Right. But it's true. Okay. So that'd be like Purdy and Tua. That'd be like Tua, Purdy, Lawrence. Uh, I don't know, man. Like Tom Brady was there a few years ago. Um, I know there's going to be some out, there's going to be some outliers almost every single year. I mean, where was Dak Prescott being drafted last year? You know, he's going to love Brock Purdy. They were way off. I'll say this just from trying the strategy out. I don't love what happened at my QB two spot. And obviously, Kirk Cousins is not the best QB one.
Starting point is 00:35:13 But I feel like this is a wild roster. Amon Ross, St. Brown, Bijan Robinson, Cooper Cup, Josh Jacobs. That's insane. Big four. Rasheed Rice, I think, is the most mispriced player in all of fantasy at this point just because the adp is still weighing in there and i can't see who those jameson williams is one of those next picks i cannot read that is such a small fine print deontay johnson is that who that is it could be it could be deontay johnson is my wide receiver three jameson is my wide receiver four it's deontay it's the i mean that anyone can see like anyone who could see that
Starting point is 00:35:44 that's ridiculous that you can't read that That's ridiculous that you can't read. That's troubling that you can't read that. Austin Eckler, Gus Edwards, and Tyrone Tracy. I mean, this team looks pretty good besides the quarterbacks. We'll see if it can work out, though. I don't know. To answer the listener's question, though, I'm good with a hero quarterback strategy.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I wouldn't want to punt like I did in this example. I think the way that I would approach it is if you're picking early and you see here the first five picks were quarterbacks i think it's in your best interest to take one of the top four i don't know if you need to go you know one through five but one of the top four because they're they feel like they're just difference makers at that position which is why they're being drafted in the way that they are in one quarterback leagues and just an easy, you know, player to grab at that spot. I think if you're in the back end of the first round, the middle kind of, you know, is, is more similar to what I'm about to say, but in the back end of the first round, you can take more of a hero, our hero QB approach,
Starting point is 00:36:37 uh, who was picking next to you was RJ. Oh, RJ. Yeah. And, and I like kind of what RJ did from a quarterback perspective, because he still has, you know, forget about who the players are, but two, three, four,
Starting point is 00:36:49 five, six are running backs and receivers. And then he goes back to back with quarterbacks. And so, you know, Sam Donald bone X, they're not great, but he's got Anthony Richardson and those two guys,
Starting point is 00:37:00 and still the ability to stockpile quarterbacks, excuse me, wide receivers and running back. So like, if you had taken and look, you'd be passing on one of them uh amara st brown or or bijan robinson which seems crazy but if you had gone quarterback there or maybe even in round three you know then you have a little bit more stability i think with your roster so like if you were to say you're you're you're taking stafford who again, you know, not the best, but best on the board, I think at that point and cousins, and then you come back and get Russell Wilson. Like that's a,
Starting point is 00:37:31 I think just a more sound roster. Dan, I got to move it along here. I just want to point out, this happens a lot in super flex leagues. Round one had seven quarterbacks. Round two had four quarterbacks. Round three had five quarterbacks. Rounds four and five had one quarterback combined so if you are wanting to wait at quarterback just understand that after you get like after you get past probably the jared goff trevor lawrence that range like with the same guys every time there is often a little bit of a lull well people where people say okay i'm not
Starting point is 00:38:01 like i'm not taking geno smith now i'm wait. So you can take advantage of that. Jamie, we have to go to break, but give me one minute maximum on, I'm sorry to shortchange our email or who wanted more. Please listen to our formats episode from a couple of weeks ago, non PPR advice for Cheryl. Non PPR should be a little bit more leaning into running backs as opposed to receivers. So where we tell you, you know, you want to get receivers. And I think, you know, Dan would probably agree with this in flex spots in those formats and non PPR running backs are opposed to receivers. So when we tell you, you know, you want to get receivers. And I think, you know, Dan would probably agree with this in flex spots in those formats and non PPR running backs are certainly going to be more dominant because they have the ability to get more touchdown potential and their touches are huge where they're not getting, you
Starting point is 00:38:36 know, penalized for not catching the ball. So Derek Henry gets bumped up. Um, I said, where it gets bumped up, you know, you get the point, you know, the guys that aren't going to be heavily involved in reception, the guys like Amara, like, um, Alvin Kamara get gets bumped up, you know, you get the point, you know, the guys that aren't going to be heavily involved in reception, the guys like Amara, like, uh, Alvin Kamara get bumped down. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:48 much more heavy running back first round, first couple of rounds. And then the top tier receivers get pushed down just a little bit. Okay. Yeah. You're going to see a lot of running and the receivers, you should probably focus more on receivers that you think have a better chance of scoring touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:39:01 My one, my one take would be that I would say it's even more important to buy players in the highest scoring offenses and non PPR leagues. Yeah. That's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. I'll just leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Okay. And then of course the question everybody wants answering to that, we'll have to just wait till after the break. Does Blackberry still go 1.1 in a Superberry league? It's different. You know, we'll find out. I will take a break and we got your Draftathon questions,
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Starting point is 00:39:38 Chris Hassel is a really good actor. He should actually be an actor. Yeah, he's so talented. It's incredible. All right, our donation questions here. I only have a few. We'll try to get to more throughout the week for those of you who donated.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Jake wants to know, why do we not hear more stats or cases being made for running backs, especially good ones? Cough, cough, Jacobs, cough, cough. Look over here. Cough. That have to deal with inefficient offensive line metrics, bad quarterbacks, defensive front-facing metrics,
Starting point is 00:40:08 or usually some combination of all of these. I don't really know that Jacobs is the best example, but football is mostly one of the trenches. We're constantly seeing offenses shift from good to bad year over year. I'd love to hear more of these types of conversations within the fantasy community. We try to, I think we try to talk offensive line a decent amount on the show. No, I mean, I think we do.
Starting point is 00:40:33 We could probably do more, but so there's, there's two that come to mind. I think one could be a little bit worse than one. It could be a little bit better. The dolphins scares me a little bit, you know, because of the guys that they lost. And, you know, you're asking Tron Armstead to, you know, stay healthy, which he never does. And like we're putting a lot of stock in Devon Achan. We're putting a lot of stock still in Raheem Mostert, putting a lot of stock in Tyreek Hill and Waddle and Tua. And from the passing game perspective, I'm generally okay with it because I trust Mike McDaniel, you know, and he's kind of been so good at, you know, dealing with
Starting point is 00:41:09 some of these changes with Armstead, for example, missing time and, and managing through that. And so I don't think it's one you run away from, but it's certainly one that could, you know, just looking at a chance, for example, who led the NFL in yards per carry and most led the NFL in total touchdowns and certainly rushing touchdowns. You know, how much of that from an efficiency standpoint comes back to a little bit closer to the mean. And then we're reaching certainly for HN, you know, with the hope of him just making all these big plays in a shared situation where he's not even the starter. And then the other one would be Tennessee where we know that Derrick Henry's gone. And so the, you know, I don't know the best running back in the,
Starting point is 00:41:45 in the league the last few years, but certainly one of the best who's coming off a year with his lowest yards per carry and lowest yards per contact yards after contact. And now they're replacing them with these two guys, plus better offensive lineman, plus the best offensive line coach in the league. And how much of that is just going to make these guys so much better. And so like you
Starting point is 00:42:05 know pollard who was a disappointment last year could be in a better spot potentially you know and that's saying something and spears could be just that much more enhanced so yeah i think you look at offensive line play and you look at the the circumstances and and obviously those things matter sure and i think from the other end of the spectrum, unless the team has a terrible offensive line, I'm not that concerned about it. I'm looking, though, at the PFF's offensive line rankings for 2024, their preseason rankings. Here are the bottom five. Saints, Seahawks. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I don't agree with that. I mean, the Seahawks. Oh, yeah. No, no. Seahawks offensive line was horrible last year. Yeah, because their two tackles were hurt. Yeah, but those guys have been injured a lot. They also lost Damian Lewis from their interior offensive line.
Starting point is 00:42:51 We went with Carolina. That's a big issue. Tennessee. The Giants. Tennessee could get better. Giants, who knows. And the Patriots. Yeah, that one should be really good.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Is this their projected offensive line ranking? Yeah, projected. And they have Baltimore at 25th, by the way. Yeah, Baltimore's falling apart really low. Is this their projected offensive line ranking? Yeah, projected. And they have Baltimore at 25th, by the way. Yeah, Baltimore's falling apart a little on the offensive line. They lost Zeitler. They lost the guy who went to the Jets. Morgan Moses, yeah. No, not Morgan Moses, the interior guy who went to the Jets.
Starting point is 00:43:16 The guard who's playing right guard for the Jets, or left guard for the Jets. I'm blanking on his name, but he's a good player. He's been a good player. Not Powers. I'm not exactly sure who it was, but they lost an interior guy there, too. Yeah, the Jets do have Morgan Moses. Let me
Starting point is 00:43:30 see. John Simpson? Simpson, correct. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. It's worth checking out the 2024. I feel like game script plays a bigger role though, to me, than the offensive line to defensive line. I agree with the general consensus that the game is won in the trenches the nfl but ultimately game like touchdowns is how we win in
Starting point is 00:43:49 fantasy football from uh oh i don't have a name on this one sorry but dear roger andre novak and rafael oh easy tennis players yeah and earlier last week or something dan said he was he was rafa nadal because he's a lefty but I thought it was because he's constantly picking his wedgie. It's disgusting. I did not do that once. But Nadal does that, right? That's his thing? He does do that.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Thanks so much for the match livestream. Loved watching. First point of the second set was great. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. That was our best point. I wish we could have had more points like that. It was like a 14-ball rally.
Starting point is 00:44:24 It took everything away. I know. You were so done after best point. I wish we could have more points like that. It was like a 14 ball rally. It took my, it took everything away. The game was, I know you were so done after that point. You were like, is this the first point of the set? That's the one, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:33 surprisingly, I will say this. You didn't have a stamina edge on me, which was very shocking. That was what Adi predicted. Adi's like, you have too much confidence in yourself. Adam's been playing tennis all summer.
Starting point is 00:44:43 All you've been doing is golfing. You're going to get crushed from a stamina standpoint. But I didn't feel like you had an edge there. No, it's because I went to the bathroom. It took me so long uphill. That bathroom break was all. Why don't we just pee in the bushes? There were so many bushes to pee in and the camera
Starting point is 00:44:58 was an iPhone. He wasn't going to get caught. This is my test. Do you know that Adam sits when he pees? No, you're one of those? No, set the hell up. But you can understand why I would think that. We spent years making fun of you for this. You can understand why I would think that would be true.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Jamie, you've humiliated me enough. Just stop with this. Did you not for years tell everybody you sit when you pee? No, stop. You told everybody that. You told everybody that. Not me. You told everybody that.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Anyway, it was a tennis question. This is time for the diner review, by the way. I want in on that. Oh, yeah. From Jack QB scoring thoughts on four point
Starting point is 00:45:32 versus six point per passing touchdown scoring. I personally think four point scoring is outdated and greatly overvalues Russian quarterbacks. I believe the six point
Starting point is 00:45:41 helps even the field between Russian quarterbacks and pocket passers. Jamie, what do you think? Make it five. Jamie, what do you think? Make it five. No, keep it at six.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I completely agree. I mean, I would keep it at six. But if you don't want to, you know, skew one way or the other completely, just make it five. What are you doing? Who, me? Dan. You know, I had an itch. And instead of going like this on the middle of a show, I tried to itch it like this.
Starting point is 00:46:05 All right. This is from Alex M. I'm in a high-stakes 12-team PPR league where no one likes to trade and everyone hoards running backs. Two running backs, two receiver, one flex league, and I'm picking fourth. I've been going hero RB, and I like the RBs in the second round
Starting point is 00:46:20 more than the wide receivers. I also think Brees Hall and Bijan Robinson need to be the pick in round one. Should I go wide receiver in round one, which would be Jefferson, St. Brown or Chase and go Pacheco, Henry or Kyron in round two,
Starting point is 00:46:34 or go Brees or Bijan around one and then take London or Olave in round two, or double up on running back. If Pacheco is there, ding, ding, ding. I like going with the hero running back in the round one. I think those big three are just massive advantage over the rest of the crew.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I mean, look, those are the three that I project will have a massive role in the passing game. And that's why I think they deserve. Now, you could say the same about Jameer Gibb. But what are you doing in round two, though? Let's say if you take that round. Oh, no, no. I'm going London or Lov. I would never go running back, running back.
Starting point is 00:47:01 But see, here's the problem with that, though. You got to love the Falcons. You have to love the Falcons. Like to go beat Johncons like to go be oh i see what you're saying no no i'm looking for breeze but you're right you could get stuck with bijan and that's that's that's the thing it's like if you're you you you got you can go a lave it's fine you know you can go debo you can go i know you go cup you know you you can you know take a chance on any of those guys that are in that group but it's's tough to look at it and say, I know this happened to me a few times where I'll take Bijan and I'm like, that's my next favorite receiver.
Starting point is 00:47:34 The other part of this, though, is I understand there's a difference, and believe me, I'm with everybody, that the two running backs, not McCaffrey, in Brees Hall and Bijan. The other pairing, though McCaffrey in, in Brees Hall and Bijan. The other pairing though, because again, there's uncertainty with London. There's a certainty with a lot of it. There feels like there's a little bit more of week.
Starting point is 00:47:54 We can see the path a little bit clearer for Pacheco for ETN for Gibbs. Who's in this range now for Kyron. If you're still, you know, in that, in that Jacobs, Jacobs deserves to be considered Jacobs for sure. Isn't that camp? Um, if you're still, you know, in that, in that Jacobs, Jacobs deserves to be considered for sure. Isn't that camp?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Um, and so this is, this was the conversation that Todd and I had for our podcast league is 14 team league. So it's a little bit different was he did not want to go with one of the running backs because of the receiver. Now again, 14 team leagues, the group coming back there, he wanted the certainty of the receiver. And so, and I was with him, you know, he, he wanted to say Brown. Okay. We're going to take St. Brown and the hope was Pacheco. Now it didn't work was with him, you know, he, he wanted St. Brown. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:25 We're going to take St. Brown. And the hope was Pacheco. Now it didn't work out with us because Adam, as you've noted a few times, the running back run was pretty substantial in the first two rounds, but we went with a guy that we were planning in round three instead of round two. And it kind of just worked out that we ended up with Debo Samuel in round three, but we took Ken Walker in round two, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:43 So that was like RB 14. I think at that, at that rate, you have to adjust to your draft. We adjusted to you know, so that was like RB 14. I think at that, you have to adjust to your draft. We adjusted to our draft, but our strategy was the same. So it was, we're taking receiver around one, we're going hero RB and we're taking, you know, again, the, the, the group of guys that we had talked about and just got the tail end of it. And then we still got our, our receiver who can,
Starting point is 00:49:01 you can make a case as around two receiver anyway, um, in round three. Dan, just question. Who do you like better? Just forgetting about your first round pick Pacheco or Lave London. Uh, now I would say it's a lot of a slight edge than London. I moved Pacheco down after the Samaj P Ryan signing. It might seem like a nothing burger to some,
Starting point is 00:49:22 but I know that that guy can be trusted on third downs. He'd be trusted on third downs. He'd be trusted in pass production. And that scares me a little bit because I liked Pacheco a lot because I felt like there was literally nothing behind him and he was going to get a massive role. What if Kyron's there? I'm not, not a Kyron drafter.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Unfortunately, I'll just say this to wrap this up. We had an email earlier about somebody taking four running backs in the top 17 and still building out a good team jamie started with three running backs still built a good team if you're strong if you take breeze hall or bijan robinson around one and you have a strong conviction that pacheco is better than london and alave this is where you take advantage of that big if you have that conviction yes it's fine it's fine to do that all right apple podcast question by the way stay tuned we'll have
Starting point is 00:50:03 youtube questions we'll also have dan wait till you hear the sandwich that Dan Schneier ate. Absolutely gluttonous. And I will say just somebody has asked the cold times. We are still taking submissions for the, um, what we call it the super leftover sleek. Yeah. A lot of submissions so far. They're great. Thank you so much. From Droop1223, I'd like to think that I'm way... I'm way ahead of the rest of my league. I think he forgot the word ahead there. When it comes to waiver wire moves in a season,
Starting point is 00:50:36 how would you approach your drafts knowing you can smash on waiver pickups in season? Heavy running back and target waiver wire wide receivers, heavy wide receiver and target waiver, wire wide receivers, heavy wide receiver and target waiver, wire running backs, or prioritize drafting elite onesie positions. Thanks. It's always easier to find running backs than it is elite receivers, you know, and, and look, last year we had Puka who was a waiver wire ad in a lot of leagues. You also had Kyron who was a waiver wire ad in a lot of leagues, you know? So I think just based on the nature of that position where you're going to see a lot of drafts where some late round picks are Tyrone Tracy, Tyrone Tracy and Marshawn Lloyd and
Starting point is 00:51:15 Jake, uh, Jordan Mason. And, you know, some of these guys that aren't going to play, but they're still getting drafted. And then you're going to drop those guys for another running back or another receiver. And then come week five, week six, you know, those guys are getting picked up and I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And again, this was never picking on Dave. It's just by the nature of what happened. I believe he drafted Jerome Ford last year, dropped Jerome Ford after week one. And then Jerome Ford became one of the more popular pickups for the season because of Nick Chubb's injury. So, you know, the, those things are going to happen.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And to find elite wide receivers like, you know, we talked about this earlier on Thursday show. On Thursday show with Noah Brown, right? He had those three monster weeks. Yeah. Everybody was buying into Noah Brown and he just disappeared. You know, so they're going to be sometimes with these wide receivers pop up out of nowhere, but to find the consistent ones,
Starting point is 00:52:10 I just don't think it's as realistic as the running backs. Wow. I got, I'm looking at a list right now of, uh, according to you, gov.com, the most popular fruits from Q2 of 2024 top,
Starting point is 00:52:23 top 50, top 45 listed here. And raspberries are not even on the damn list. This is a good raspberry. Again, we have to understand a lot of the berries people eat are not good. They're sour, they're tart. I don't see this with raspberries. I disagree with you.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Raspberries are very consistent. Oh no. I hope the chat will weigh in on this. Raspberries are not consistent whatsoever. At all. I think raspberries are pretty consistent. Yeah. Strawberries were the number one. Do you guys only buy organic?
Starting point is 00:52:49 You must be buying the most expensive stuff. No. I only buy organic, but it's... I feel like raspberries are not... Adam can attest to this. Nothing beats Publix produce. Wow. I don't know about the produce.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Nothing beats Publix deli counter. Oh, the deli is fantastic. Everybody loves their chicken tenders or whatever. I'm going to give you the top five most popular fruits from Q2 of 2024. Strawberries, pineapples, green grapes, watermelon, banana. Wow. Solid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Pineapple's the best. Blueberries, check in at seven. Blackberry, fresh mango. Fresh mango is unbeatable. Listen. Yeah, that's actually pretty good listen to what listen to what this guy ordered at the mount kisco diner so we get let me first set the stage here match is over adam was not happy but he i was like adam we're gonna have to be a little happy you're gonna have to get in better mood i don't want to deal with bad mood adam i was waiting for this diner experience so i was like no i'm kidding he
Starting point is 00:53:44 was in a fine mood so i wanted to meet meet Adam's family. Okay. I had a very important question to ask Adam's wife. So his kids were not cooperating at first, but then they were great when I met them and they all came to the diner and they were awesome. And right when they walked in, I met Andrew. I met Emma. Andrew gave Adam a big hug. It was very cute. It was very wholesome. And I met Adam's wife who was incredibly nice, but I had a really important question to ask her. I had to ask her and I put her on the spot last year's draft-a-thon. Did you actually have an important phone call during the time when Adam was supposed to shave three lines in his head, but all my wife is on an important call seems to be lasting an hour and a
Starting point is 00:54:19 half, but it's this long call she said, and I don't know if Adam prep prepped her on this, but she did say there was an important call. So we can close that case, but we get to this diner and this menu is the most unbelievable looking menu I've ever seen. And I had like nine things I wanted to eat off this menu. Obviously I went with the most gluttonous choice of them all. Adam's like, I wish I had the, uh, kahunas to order that. But instead he ordered kahunas. Kahunas. Kahunas. Is that what it is? Kahunas. Kahunas.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Kahunas. Is that what it is? Whatever it is. Kahunas. I don't know. He made it a fruit. But, so he's like, I'm going to get the steamed broccoli, the teriyaki chicken, and brown rice.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I was like, all right, good for you. Nice. White rice. No wonder you're 132 pounds. But me, I got something called the Jersey Shore. It was the most gluttonous sandwich I've ever ordered in my life. It was chicken cutlet, fried raviolis, mozzarella sauce, or mozzarella cheese, vodka sauce on a garlic, basically garlic bread roll. And I ate half of it.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Wedge. Wedge. I ate half of it. And I was like, oh, I'll just, I'm probably done here. I'm very full. Ended up eating the other half. Didn't end up taking it home. Ate all the fries.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It was a ravioli on the chicken cutlet with vodka sauce and mozzarella cheese on a garlic wedge. Oh, my God. They had something on this menu, a section of food that I've never seen before in any diner or any restaurant. It was deep fried wraps. I was so intrigued and wanted to try one of those. If I ever go back to this diner, I will get that next, the deep fried wrap. Disgusting sounding, obviously, for those of you who are- What's the name of the diner? Mount Tisco Diner. This was honestly one of the best diners I've ever been to in my life. I will
Starting point is 00:55:56 say that. It lived up completely to the hype. The food tasted amazing. Obviously, I didn't feel so great on the drive home. I'm not going gonna lie um there's a lot of dairy but you know what i was the only person in that car no but i was the only person in that car so i'd say you know there it is look at that thing i ate that i ate both halves yeah he ate the whole day we both stopped eating like we were like we ate half of our meal we both stopped and then we both finished because it was so good obviously i had the chicken teriyaki on instagram it says tag somebody that would crush this sandwich oh yeah nice yeah no it's a great place if you're ever up in westchester find the malchisco diner okay at cojones.com cojones is that what he's supposed to say it's so funny you know i wanted to say
Starting point is 00:56:46 another word but it's a family-friendly show all right youtube let's go let's go what do you have uh for us here reminds me of rutgers fat sandwiches yeah it's exact that's exactly right a lot of what their menu was the ruckers do you guys know about the grease trucks the ruckers fat sandwiches no i don't i figured you might though since you're from yeah so back in like early two yeah in the early 2000s they created something on the in ruckers they the Rutgers fat sandwiches. No, I don't. I figured you might though, since you're from New Jersey. Yeah. In the early two thousands, they created something on the, in Rutgers,
Starting point is 00:57:07 they call them the grease trucks. It was just these fat sandwiches. So it'd be on a roll. They would put like chicken fingers, mozzarella sticks, French fries, like five different fried foods on a roll in a sandwich. And it was unbelievable drunk food.
Starting point is 00:57:20 All right. That's good. Um, sorry. Basically was that reading a disgusting comment about Dan's bowels. But this one is from Goddard is my tight end one. Should I drop one of Dowdell? They're fine. Dowdell, Shakir, Bengals, Texans for Conklin, Ertz or Jawan Johnson. Would you and would you drop Dowdell to pick up Jordan Mason? I believe Mike McCarthy came out today and said that they're going to reduce Rico Dowdell's role on special teams because he's preparing him for a big workload. So, no, I would not do that. If you're carrying two defenses, that's an easy drop.
Starting point is 00:57:57 First off, Goddard's fine for now. If we get to next week and he's still hurt, then you make a transaction. But drop one of the defenses and pick up Jordan Mason. Yes, love it. All right, this is from Sam. I was offered Marvin and McBride. Marvin Harrison and McBride for T. Higgins and Kelsey. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 No. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, you're getting Marvin and McBride, yes. Marvin and McBride, for sure. Yeah, I'm in on it. And he's saying, I think T. Higgins will go off against the Patriots with no Jamar Chase. We don't know that Jamar Chase isn't going to play. Chase will play, is my prediction. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:58:31 12-team, half PPR, fourth overall. I've been reaching with the 28th pick. How would you feel about trading 124 and 28 for 60 and 61? No way. I wouldn't do and 61. No way. I wouldn't do it either. No way. I'd much rather.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Are we sure it's 124 and 28 or 124? Even. No, you'd be trading picks 124 and 28 for 60 and 61. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't give up the 28th pick to move down to the 5-6 turn. We see it every year.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Those mid-round picks end up being bust more times than not in the 60-61 range. We don't know how to properly, in my opinion, it's hard to rate that versus the top guys that do tend to pan out really well in the first two rounds. So you're giving up your third-round pick and your 12th? Early third. 11th round pick and your 11th early third,
Starting point is 00:59:25 11th round pick fourth pick around three for five and six. I don't hate it. I'm out. I wouldn't do that. Uh, should I trade Pacheco and Rico Dowdle for Ford and cook Jerome Ford and James cook? No. What? If you, I mean, look, Heath would. Yeah. Ford and Cook. Jerome Ford and James Cook.
Starting point is 00:59:45 No. What? If you... I mean, look. Heath would. Yeah, it's similar. Would you rather have Dowdle or Ford, guys? Dowdle. Ford right now. And I'd much rather have Pacheco than Cook. I would rather have Pacheco than Cook, but it's not so strong of a take that I wouldn't consider this.
Starting point is 01:00:05 So if you are in the Cook camp, again, like I said, Heath would do this trade. I believe our projections would do this trade. Yeah, because if we... Jeez, I definitely clicked the wrong one there. Why are people still convinced McCaffrey is the first overall when everything seems to be telling us to avoid him with the first pick? Because he was a total cheat code last year. Outs the the outscored i think he said by three fantasy points
Starting point is 01:00:28 adam the next best guy um and ppr two points and non-ppr was literally at one point minus 200 in vegas to score a touchdown during the week that's how good the that's how that you had to literally play pay two to one to bet him to score a touchdown scores a touchdown every week he's by far and away the best player in fantasy. Has a minor injury that's most likely going to be fine. But you also have an offensive line that's not as good if Trent Williams is not there.
Starting point is 01:00:54 You have a 28-year-old running back. You have a guy coming off 400 total touches. You do have the injury to factor in. You have the Madden curse. You have the one overall curse. I mean, there's a lot of things we're going to get. Curse of the number one pick. It's terrible every year. I'm going to use all that to my advantage.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Last question here from Ramteen. Jacobs, Pacheco, or Travis Etienne in the second round? Jacobs. And I'm really sad I didn't get enough Jacobs before all this stuff happened because I didn't think Marshawn Lloyd was ever going to play the role people expected. I know the injury sort of played a factor, but I didn't think he was ever going to be really as involved as people thought. Um,
Starting point is 01:01:25 and so it just stinks because now the price tag is so high, but I think he's the clear cut now of these three. I would still take the checko, but it's close. So for, for continuity, I'll say Jacobs. Jacobs also has like a top five schedule for running backs.
Starting point is 01:01:38 They're they're back to back to back for me. Yeah. I was actually going to say ETN, but yeah. Wow. Yeah. Um, yeah. All right. So that going to say ETN, but yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, all right. So that's it. Remind me next week
Starting point is 01:01:49 to tell you guys, everyone on the show, about the best take I had last year. Okay? It's not like a fantasy prediction or anything like that. It's nothing I'm bragging about. But it was the best take I had all year. I got killed for it, of course, and it made fantasy so all year. I got killed for it, of course,
Starting point is 01:02:10 and it made fantasy so much better. So have a wonderful weekend, everybody. Enjoy your Labor Day. We will have a show for you on Monday, I'm pretty sure, and we'll talk to you then. See ya.

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