Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag! Riskiest Picks, Drafting at the 1/2 Turn, Backfield Values and More (07/19 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

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Doesn't isn't that his lunch? It's at like four or five p.m., but it's the first meal of the day for him. What did I call that, Jamie? Pre dinner or third lunch? Third lunch. This is the first dinner he eats. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. We welcome you to our Friday mailbag here on Fantasy Football Today. We have an exciting day because today, Draftathon begins.

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It's fine. You know, we pay a lot more money. I'll shave something else. I'll shave Go Eagles in the back of my head for a certain amount of money. You know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't make promises you're not going to keep. If we get, I mean, if I get like $500, I'll put that in the back of my head.

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Apple podcast questions will be part of this as well. Here it works, right? Yeah, but are we talking like six weeks? Are we talking two weeks? How long does it take to – I think just as long as somebody could see it it then you could fix it however you have to but you can't if you shave something in the back of your head you can't fix it you can't go back and be like hey can you put that hair back no but you just cut it shave it to a one or a zero and

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News and notes. News and notes. We'll start with this about Jordan Addison. Darren Wolfson, local reporter in Minnesota, he says that people within the organization are incredibly pissed off at the recent actions

of Jordan Addison and a likely suspension is coming either from the NFL or from the Vikings. Yes, this came out a day after I drafted Jordan Addison in the Scott Fish Bowl. I don't know that I would...

He's going pretty late now. It was not like he was going early before. But i saw like roma dunzey went after i took addison would you guys take oh dunzey or addison at this point today still added today oh okay i'd still go with addison hoping that long term he'll be the better fantasy point getter so number two target in minnesota so the the thing you got to worry about if there is a suspension that by the time he comes back is that when hawkinson is back because the appeal right now for me with addison is no hawkinson while the quarterback play is still uncertain now once the quarterback play is settled if it's good that should help addison uh should should help everybody, obviously.

But it feels as if this is just trending in a very bad direction for him. Okay, yeah. In my Scott Fishbowl draft, he went in between. He went after Marvin Mims. That's a return yards thing. Jackson Smith and Jigba, DeAndre Hopkins, then Jordan Addison, and then the next receiver was Khalil Shakir. And then... Yeah. And then

the return yard thing, right? And then Roma Dunze. Okay. And Jamison Williams. So, next news item. Nick Chubb is expected to start training camp on the PUP list. Let me see if he's off the board. Yeah, he went right in the same range. He went right after Javante Williams, DeAndre Swift,

Tajay Spears, Austin Eckler, Nick Chubb, Brian Robinson. Javante Williams, DeAndre Swift, Tajay Spears, Austin Eckler, Nick Chubb, Brian Robinson. How soon after that video of him working out was posted, did he get picked?

Because I feel like that's, that's what started people getting more excited about Nick Chubb again, just seeing any footage of him doing anything and looking good. Doing it is, is, is enough for some people to get reinvigorated over Nick Chubb. Mike Williams is on the pup list, Seattle,

that's jets wide receiver, Mike Williams, Seattle, right? Tackle Abe Lucas is on the pup list.. That's Jets wide receiver Mike Williams. Seattle right tackle Abe Lucas is on the PUP list. He missed a lot of time last year. Hope he gets healthy. Miami left guard Isaiah Wynn is on the PUP list. So are pass rushers Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips. Do you think the Dolphins could have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL this year?

It's probably the biggest concern. When you look at it. After what they lost and dealing with some injuries, and if Farmstead can't stay healthy, which has been a huge issue for them, then yeah, it could be a big problem. Something to keep in mind. For me, more so with the running backs than it is for the

passing game, but obviously concerns for Tua too. I would just keep in mind that they run an offensive run scheme that is supposed to be not easier necessarily for offensive linemen, but offensive linemen, they can find guys who can zone block pretty easily compared to power block. And they've tried to address the position.

They've drafted Paul, I think, in the second round as a tackle, I think they're hoping that he can start for them. I think it, I don't think it can be any worse than it was last year, but I don't think that there'll be like top 10 or anything like that in the league. Okay. Well,

losing hunt was huge, right? They lost hunt and yeah, arms Armstead was in and out of the lineup last year too, but they got Brewer from Tennessee, right? That's new. And then they drafted Paul and yeah, Armstead was in and out of the lineup last year too. They got Brewer from Tennessee. That's new. Then they drafted Paul and Paul can be, either Paul's going to be their swing tackle

or Kendall Lamb will be their swing tackle. Driscoll is there. He might have been there last year. I'm not sure. We can stop naming Dolphins offensive linemen, but they get rid of the ball so quickly to just fire. That's part of it. It does sort of nullify that, which is why Jamie was saying more worried about the running backs,

if that is a concern. And Chris Olave on the reserve non-football injury list. He's expected to be fine. But right tackle for the Saints, Ryan Ramchick. He is going to miss the season with a knee injury, a chronic knee injury. Another Saints news item. Coach Dennis Allen wants to see more consistency from Kendri Miller.

And then here is the story, the profile on Derrick Henry by Dan Pompei of The Athletic. He says, Henry's financial advisor, Pete Kodos, estimates that Henry spends $240,000 yearly on body maintenance. And during the season, he doesn't eat his first meal until 4 or 5 p.m.

and eats only one other meal, usually around 8 p.m. That's during the season. When he does eat, he consumes nearly enough for a pride of lions. Quote, I probably eat three chicken breasts, some rice and broccoli, Henry says. Then I have some gluten-free pancakes, scrambled eggs, I probably eat three chicken breasts, some rice and broccoli, Henry says. Then I have some gluten-free pancakes, scrambled eggs, diced potatoes, home fries, and some steak.

That's my kind of meal right there. Holy moly. That's third lunch. Yeah. That's third lunch. My God, that's three days' worth of lunch. That's impressive. I don't think I could do that.

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and jameer gibbs and jonathan taylor at running back would you go with he wants to go running back wide receiver but i'll leave it up to you guys how would you dave you can start how would you make these two picks at the swing i'd be a little worried that one of those two wide receivers wouldn't make it back to me in round two no no he no, no. He's got back to back picks. Oh, you're right. Sorry about that. So you don't have to worry. I think I definitely like Wilson better than Nakua. I think there's just,

I think there's more upside for him. And is Nakua going to play a bunch of games without Cooper cup this year versus Garrett Wilson, hopefully getting a lot of games with Aaron Rogers. I just think that there's more there for Wilson than there is for Nakua. And as for those running backs, I think especially if catches count, Gibbs has an advantage over Jonathan Taylor. And we saw just so many explosive plays from Jameer Gibbs last year, already talked that he's going to get more work that makes sense

in that offense. I think that there's like legitimate top three RB upside for Jameer Gibbs, which is why he's a first round pick. So I'd want Gibbs and Garrett Wilson. If he wants to go the route of receiver and running back, then those are the two I would choose. I would actually take both receivers though. I think there's more upside with both those guys in this format. Who are you targeting then in round three at running back?

Cause he'll have the third and fourth picks. Those will be the, well, the 40th and 40 or no, no 30 and 31 30th and 31st picks thank you adam for setting me straight there what kind of running back are there that you'd be okay with just to lay it out for him what to expect in round i wouldn't necessarily be you know locking myself into taking running backs there either but um i mean that's going to be the range for anyone from that third tier of guys that's alvin kamara that's josh jacobs that's joe mixon that's uh you know those those kind of guys that's throughout you want to go but again i

i wouldn't necessarily have to settle for that or i wouldn't want to have to sell for that oh okay what if james cook or pacheco fell there? Or Rashad? Yeah, I mean, oh, yeah. Because Pacheco's going 38th in CBS ADP. Yeah. That's another reason why I wouldn't necessarily have to Oh, sorry. Why would I put myself in the position of locking myself into a

receiver and a running back? I was wrong. Unless he likes one of those guys better. Pacheco's going 24th. Sorry. James Cook's going 26th. So they won't be there probably. Sorry. James Cook's going 26th. They won't be there probably. H and 30. Jacob's 26th actually. Two guys

going 26th. Yeah, 26th, 27th. They have basically the same ADP. All right, let's move on to our next question here. It is from Rodney. Is it from Rodney? Yes. He basically wants to know how you feel about Mike Kosicki. He listened to our show yesterday, wants a little bit more

on Mike Kosicki, who by the way, finished as a top 12 tight end three straight seasons per game. Top 16 tight end three straight seasons with Miami 2019 2020 and 2021. And those were on teams that threw 22, 24, and

21 touchdowns those seasons. Whereas Joe Burrow at his best is throwing 35 or more touchdowns. Jamie, how do you feel about Mike Kosicki? I don't think he's a bad streamer. I think he's definitely in the conversation of guys that we were talking about, you know, that you can pick up and see what happens or draft and see what happens if you're inclined to take two there's there's a couple things that play first off you know while they lose tyler boyd they add jermaine burton and you know we'll see what happens with the two receivers if they stay healthy because that's been a problem for them in terms of chase and and higgins the other part of this is at one point is eric all healthy you know the tight end that they drafted who's got an opportunity to be i I think a pretty good player. Um, you know, he's coming off of,

of a significant injury, so he may not be ready to start the season and may not play until the end of the year. So that should certainly help Kosecki, but look, he's, he's been the type of guy that has teased us so many times, you know, um, with his time in Miami mostly. So it wouldn't be surprising to see him have a couple of good games. Will he have consistency in terms of a lot of good games? And so that's the concern. So yes, good second tight end. You've heard a lot of buzz. I said this yesterday. I said, the two guys that you're going to hear a lot about are going to be Gusecki and Noah Fant, you know, that people are seeing the path to production there and it's there, they both have failed to do it and so just i

wouldn't necessarily go crazy for those two guys i would take flyers on those two guys if you have the drafts if you have the uh bench spots to do so okay so i'm not sure he'll i'm not sure he'll finish higher than fifth in targets in that office the question though that rodney asked that i didn't ask was uh what would what would you think about him if T. Higgins or Jamar Chase got hurt? Because that's his case. In drafting him in a best ball league, that he would be really good, basically, if one of those guys got hurt.

Do you agree with that premise? In theory, yes, because some targets would open up if he's indeed going to be close to a full-time player. But it's a terrible reason to take to take anybody hoping that somebody else gets hurt in front of them yeah uh for what it's perfect you know tight end premium perfect you know the premium yes that's the type of things you know type of scenarios where you're you're taking shots on trying to win something big or benefiting from a scoring format you know so there there is a path to success for Gusecki.

Absolutely. Okay. This is from – this is from – oh, Dave, give me a name and a city. Let's go with CJ from Louisville, Kentucky. CJ says, hey, Tanjiro, Inosuke, Zenitsu, and Nezuko. Okay. No idea. I think it's Dragon Ball Z is my guess. And he says,

That's me. Sure. As we enter draft season, I think there should be greater emphasis on league losing downside. We always talk about league winning upside, but I feel the busts in the early rounds will straight up lose you the year. Last year, I managed third place with my first five picks being Eckler, Waddle, Ridley,

Fields, and Waller. Probably the worst draft possible. I was saved, ironically, with Kamara and Mostert and a bunch of trades. No one can predict the year. I'll try to shorten this here. I will not be touching Devon HM with a second round pick or Justin Jefferson with a first six pick price tag. Those are league losing downside players that I'm talking about that have too much risk. Same with Jameer Gibbs and Marvin Harrison. The price is way too risky to potentially throw away a first or a second round pick for the chance of, quote,

league winning upside. I wanted to share these thoughts and was wondering if there could be more time spent on sharing info on some of these high risk players. So basically, this guy wants to avoid league losing downside in the first two, maybe three rounds. Let's say two rounds. Who are some players that you think have league losing downside in the first two, maybe three rounds? Let's say two rounds. Who are some players that you think

have league losing downside in the first two rounds? I mean, you start with the number one overall pick, right? Okay, but what's the argument for that? Just that he's coming off of a 400-plus season? 400-plus touches. I mean, look, I get the premise, and it's totally understandable. There are players that have less risk and higher floors than others.

And so like the conversation we've had the last couple of days of George Kittle versus Kyle Pitts or Dalton Kincaid or Cooper Cup versus Drake London. We know what one guy has done and what one guy we hope to do. So, you know, I mean, even just the conversation we just had about Puka and Garrett Wilson, you know, one guy is coming off a season where he broke records and was fantastic. And another guy, we're still waiting for his quarterback, who by the way is 40 coming off an Achilles injury. And I agree with Dave, he's got more upside, you know,

it's not by much, but he has more upside. It feels like, so I think when you look at the players in the first two rounds there's maybe one or two that feel like just completely safe like to me aj brown and amara st brown feel safe like so safe you know you you've seen it they're in their primes their quarterbacks are great um they both got paid you know so it's it's it just feels safe like jamar chase doesn't feel safe if you want to you know start to nit's, it's, it just feels safe. Like Jamar chase doesn't feel safe. If you want to, you know, start to nitpick it, Justin Jefferson, as, as the email alluded to, doesn't feel safe, you know, despite the fact that they're probably still safe, you know, but, um, there's, there's things you can point to and say, okay, quarterback injury, all these things, you know, so it, it just, I think you're limiting yourself by taking away the upside for certain players. But you can sort of navigate it if you want to. You know, like Jonathan Taylor, you know what you're going to get from him if he's if he's healthy by comparison to Jameer Gibbs or Saquon Barkley. You know, because there's there's question marks for the guys that are around them.

You know, so I I just don't think it's a smart way to play unless you're just, you you're just, you know, okay, here's player a, here's player B, and I don't want to take the risks. So I'm just going to take the, the, the safer option, you know, so James Cook versus Isaiah Pacheco or Josh Jacobs versus Isaiah Pacheco, you know, so you saw what Pacheco did in his offense last year. He's safer versus Jacobs, maybe losing a lot of work to Marshawn Lloyd based on the things that you're hearing out of green Bay or, you know, James Cook, not more touchdowns, you know, so again, for me, it's

just like there's five or six players in the first two rounds that just are safe. Only five or six. Well, again, when you start to just dice everything, you know, slice it all apart and you peel back the onion, like again, McCaffrey's not safe. Yes, he is. No, he's not. I mean, he could get hurt, but so could anybody. If we remove injuries, he's super safe. But again, when you start to attach things to historical situations, 400 plus touches is bad. 28 year old running backs is bad. You know, so is he still worth the risk? Why are you taking them first overall? If it's bad,

that, but what I'm saying is, you know, if, if you're just looking at the negatives, then you can make a case for a lot of these guys. Yeah. I agree. Players with long history of success.

That's what I feel like. You're just going to push yourself into believing that players who've had, you know, six straight years of 14 plusplus fantasy points on your team, and you're going to miss out on the younger players that have the potential to break out. You would have passed on Jameer Gibbs last year, as an example. Jameer Gibbs has never done anything in the NFL, but you know what? He ended up being great. Our job is to project. And I think the more that we look at a player like Justin Jefferson and we say,

all right, quarterback situations changed. Maybe the offense changes a little bit and maybe they don't throw as much as they used to because of it. Maybe his ADOT goes down a little bit more. Plus he got hurt last year. Now you're building a case for what his downside is, but that's why he's not the number one wide receiver. If everything was the same as last year, I think he'd be the number one wide receiver. If everything was the same as last year, I think he'd be the number one wide receiver. It might be the number one overall pick, but it's, it's not that way. And so when you start to think about legitimate reasons for downside, that's when you could start to get a little skittish on a player, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't consider injury.

One of those things, unless it's a player who's already exhibited concerns about injury, like Eckler is an example just the way that he looked last year before he even got hurt and then when he came back last year after he got hurt he looked even worse he played one game you got hurt in week one I know that you watched the film in that game and you didn't think he looked like the same running back but I I mean I I feel like Eckler's season was derailed and you have a huge run in that game he did he did and I I watched it with Dave, and we watched that run, and we compared it to some runs slightly earlier in his career.

I think you could make the case that he didn't look as explosive, but he did have a huge game in week one, and then he had a high ankle sprain, which often derails seasons like it did for Saquon Barkley, like it did for Jonathan Taylor. So that's just a small case for Eckler. But, yeah, anyway, would you say right now, would you say that Bijan Robinson and Brees Hall are safer than Justin Jefferson?

No. Yes. Okay. And that's the other thing is that you can't play. Yes. You probably can't get a consensus about who's got the league losing downside. That's really in the eye of the beholder, I would say. All right. but it's a good question, and if you are risk-averse, then take that into consideration. Okay, this is from Radio Teacher. Ambiguous backfields. Pick your choice for these six teams.

I don't know if he's... This has got to be an ADP question, so let's say who's the better value, Connor or Benson in Arizona? What are the current ADPs? All right. We'll look at CBS PPR ADP. Please.

I think they're too close to say Benson's got a huge edge. Conor 69th, Benson 96th. Huh? I'll take Conor. I'll take Benson. I'll take Benton. Najee Harris or Jalen Warren? Najee is at 66th. Warren is at 104th.

Wow. At those ADPs, I'll take Warren. Seattle. Oh, no. Chicago. Chicago is not an ambiguous backfield, is it? No. It's Swifts, we think.

Well, no. Swift's is going to lose work to potentially two other guys. It's almost certain that he will. Right, but it's not ambiguous. We know who the guy is. I don't care what the ADP is. I'm taking Swift first. How about Ken Walker or Charbonnet?

Walker, Kenneth Walker, where are you? Walker is 42nd overall. Charbonnet Walker, Kenneth Walker. Where are you? Walker is 42nd overall. Charbonnet 126. It's so rich for Walker, but if I get Walker, I'm really into getting Charbonnet too. Knowing that his ADP is going to be round 10. I also don't think this is ambiguous.

I think this is Walker's job and charbonnet is the backup i think charbonnet will end up having a pretty decent role walker the main guy no question but you're right about that adp being a little rich on kenneth walker all right zach last one cincinnati zach moss 74th overall chase brown 113th overall. Brown. I mean, the fact that Brown continues to fall is making it easier to say Brown. Yep. Yeah. I just still, I still think that I would agree with that is, but I just still feel like Moss is going really low also.

Yeah. It's such a tough question because like most people are going to just say the better value and that makes sense. So when there's some level of uncertainty. But I would assume Walker is going to get the majority of carries, and Charbonnet will get work on passing downs, but Walker will still get some catches. Moss is going to be in the same situation, and Swift is going to lose work to those other guys.

So for those three situations, I would still prefer the starter. But if you're just saying, okay, who do you want based on cost, you're taking the cheaper guy. Which one of those starters is most likely to miss time or get benched for bad play? Moss.

Wait, wait. You're talking about Seattle and Cincinnati? Was there another group in there? Seattle, Chicago. You could pick any of them. Well, I mean, injury, you got to say Arizona. Yeah, if Connor gets hurt. Sure, but Moss can get hurt too.

Performance, it's Moss, right? I mean, he's the most likely. Yeah, I don't mind getting both Bengals running backs, especially if I'm going with a zero or hero RB build. But Chase Brown is someone I'm starting to get more and more excited about. And that ADP, it was like 113, you said? Yeah. Smash it. I love it. Okay more and more excited about. And that ADP, it was like 113, you said? Yeah. Smash it.

I love it. Okay, this is from Juan. Where's he from? Juan is from Detroit, Michigan. Dear Milo, Mike, Mitch, and Miriam, it's the first time I realized how many M names there are on Mayor of Kingstown. So thank you for that, Juan, from Detroit. Will you guys have a show about coaching tendencies?

Let's sum it up. Which coaching case again, we have been talking about this for months, but a lot, we have a lot of new audience members. So this is fine. We'll repeat it. Jamie, give me a few head coaching or offensive coordinator moves that really move

the needle from fantasy standpoint in a good or bad way. Two that didn't happen are certainly fantastic for me. That's Ben Johnson and Bobby Sloak staying where they are, you know, so in Detroit and Houston. Very curious to see how the Clint Kubiak move is going to impact the New Orleans offense. That's one that I'm very excited about. It's kind of everything's new, but Kubiak going to Washington, you know, I think that's going to be interesting to see how that works with Jane Daniels because Kubiak has certainly done a good job with Kyler Murray from a fantasy perspective.

Kingsbury. Why do I keep saying it? Yeah. You doubled down on that one. Yes. Yeah. Sorry. Um, you mentioned the chargers yet.

Cause that's like, uh, no, that's one that we're a little worried about yes from for you know what the upside of justin herbert can be and and still being there you know so it's it's it's really fascinating because he's going to be better than he get where he gets drafted he's going to outperform his adp because everybody's just completely running away from but um how much how much will he be closer to what his career highs have been? So those first two years were great. Last two years have been struggling. Injuries played a part in that.

But yeah, that's another one. Then Ryan Grubb in Seattle. That's going to be a fun one to see if that offense carries over from what he did in Washington to what he can do with the Seahawks offense there. So very curious about that one as well. What about Arthur Smith in Pittsburgh? Going there? We know that Arthur Smith is a maestro when it comes to the run game. Is that, is he going to be the guy that sets those running backs free and really turns them both into potential fantasy starters? Could it be,

I don't think it'll be as good as like what Detroit has. Let's not go crazy, but maybe they can improve significantly on what they did last year. And they were both okay. Warren certainly hit expectations more so than Najee did, but maybe that run game will get going. They improve their offensive line. That scheme will be good. And obviously the quarterback change, we'll see what that means for Pickens and for Fryermuth. But those two pass catchers could end up being not bad for fantasy.

Pickens especially could be a number one guy. I think Alex Van Pelt is, is kind of interesting, but I don't think he's a miracle worker. Patriots offense is kind of a mess. Luke gets, he is fortunate to get another chance to call plays in the NFL, but he might have a, an edict from the, from Antonio Pierce in Vegas to run the ball more. That'll be interesting because they've got, they don't have like super stable options at both quarterback and running back so i'm kind of curious how that goes and then tennessee is one i don't think you mentioned tennessee jay no it's good call but brian callahan to me that's one of the most fascinating ones because callahan

one of several new coordinators that come from a west coast system uh trying to get will levis to improve his game and boy did they do a lot with their receiving core and their offensive line. And they changed out their running backs. That's going to be a completely different looking offense than from anything you've seen from the Titans in the last five years or so. So that's one that I'm really interested in. Atlanta's interesting with Zach Robinson there. Again, another West Coast guy.

But like little smaller tendencies, I haven't dug deep enough into every single one of these guys. Jamie mentioned Ryan Grubb. We've talked a lot about how he seems to really favor receivers and especially slot receivers. That's something that could benefit Jackson Smith and Ajigba. And they're also going to rotate guys. So you'll see DK Metcalf play more in the slot this year than in the past.

Some fascinating situations for sure. If you missed our episode last Thursday with Rich Rebar, Rich was talking about the 12 teams that have a coach or coordinator from the McVay or Shanahan tree and then added Detroit because they seem to do the same things that Ben Johnson seems to do the same things,

which is exploit the middle of the field. They're very successful. And these 12 teams, I think, yeah, I think it's 12, including Detroit. It's the Rams,

Niners, Bengals, Vikings, Packers, Falcons, Titans, Saints, Dolphins,

Texans, Bears, and Lions. And we said, well, howphins, Texans, Bears, and Lions. And we said, how could you draft an entire fantasy team consisting of players from only those 12 teams? And then I came up with this based on ADP, drafting from, let's say, the five or the six spot in a 12-team league.

Jamar Chase, Kyron Williams, Jalen Waddell, Alvin Kamara, T. Higgins, Kyle Pitts, Aaron Jones, Christian Watson, and then at quarterback, Caleb Williams, Brock Purdy, Tua Tungavailoa take two of those three. And I thought it was a pretty fun exercise. But yeah, I actually thought a lot about that. I'm going to try to focus on those 12 teams. I'm not going to draft a roster of only players on that team. But I think those are the teams

that have the offensive philosophies that are working and could help you be a little bit of a cheat code for you. Did we mention Philadelphia? We did not. No, I was thinking about that. I didn't know if it was still continuing.

But yeah, Kellen Moore going there too. Yeah. That might be the, the, the biggest one. All right, we got to take a break and we'll come back and talk about a lot of other things. Yeah, nothing's... Oh, nice. What a tease. Also, I'm trying to get up to $500 in donations

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off the board. There's a big variance in your non and full PPR rankings at this point. Remember, he's in a half PPR league. Who would your next five to ten picks, you don't have to name all of them, but who would your next best players be in half PPR? Are we talking Kyron Williams,

Derrick Henry, ETN, Pacheco? Are we going Olave, Harrison, London? Jamie, where do you typically go in a half PPR league after the 14th pick or so? What did he do in round one? I don't know. I don't know that he had his

drafts yet. I think he's just kind of mocking it. Right. Maybe there's some advice here on what he should do in round one based on what he could do in round two. Yeah, I think if you did not take a receiver in round one, I would not want to leave my first two rounds without one of those guys, so I would probably

lean Marvin Harrison if he's still there. Then, if you did take a receiver in round one, then that group of running backs that you listed, so Kyron would be the first choice you listed. So, uh, Kyron would be the first choice for me, uh, half PPR.

So I would probably go with ETN then Henry. Yeah. And I think that assuming Barkley and Taylor are gone to answer the, the maybe more general question. These guys are going to in half PPR leagues, probably draft more like it's a P no, definitely going to draft more like it's a PPR league than a non PPR league. It's not like everyone's value is the same in half and full PPR,

but if catches count, you should probably use the full PPR rankings. And so just, just so I'm clear. So 14th overall and Barkley and Taylor and Gibbs are gone. Yes. So then that should certainly still put Wilson and Puka in that range. Puka, yeah.

One of them, I would think. Puka might be. Yeah. All right. This is from Zach from a city south of Alaska. Vancouver is such an easy answer. Let's just make it easy. Vancouver.

Hey, Ricky, Julian, Bubbles, Randy, and Jim. Yeah, so that's a Canadian show, so you might be right. It's Trailer Park Boys. My league just voted to eliminate kicker or DST in favor of adding a bench spot. We... Okay, what position should it be? It's a super flex league that so far starts

two running backs, three receivers, one tight end, one flex, and five bench spots. So I've got to get rid of a kicker or the DST? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which position should I be? Bye-bye kicker. That's easy, especially with the new special teams rule on kickoffs. Lean into that. That should be fun.

Okay, yeah. That was an easier question than I made it up. I hope it's fun. Michael Linklater. Where is Michael Linklater from? He's from Sheboygan, Wisconsin. I'm listening to the tight end tier episode, and I thought of something I've never heard you address. He wants to talk about projecting trades.

Are there any players, because he's thinking about maybe the bills, he's thinking about Dalton Kincaid in terms of tight ends. They would trade for Devontae Adams or something like that. Are there any players that you guys are projecting as being likely to get traded? Oh, boy. I mean, I think you look with the contract, guys.

So there's three receivers that came to mind, Ayuk, Adams, and T. Higgins. So if those three teams are out of it and uh correct me if i'm wrong they they extended the trade deadline this year so um that allows teams i think the flexibility so you know if the 49ers let's say have a super bowl hangover and they and they're struggling and iuk is still playing well and they want to get something sooner than they may want to explore in the offseason for him. Same thing with the Bengals.

If they're struggling and they want to trade T. Higgins because they're not going to pay him. Then obviously Adams being, you know, 31 heading to 32, you know, still playing well enough that a team is going to covet him. So those three are easy, I think, to say could be on the move. But they're also two of them at least are on Super Bowl contenders. So you expect those teams to play well if things go right. I think any running back that's not one of the young superstars is on the table as well. You know,

so you know, the Khalil Herberts of the world, the, which I think those, those second and third guys on the depth chart that could still retain some value. Javante Williams, you know,

those, those kinds of guys, but to project trades, it's so hard because, you know, like the 49ers don't seem to have any reason unless again, they're blown away to trade Brandon. I,

you right now, you've heard everything from Devante Adams himself, his agent, the Raiders, they're not trading him right now, you know? So the bangles don't seem inclined to trade T Higgins right now. You know, again, why would, why would these teams? So I can't, I can't draft Dalton, you know, and I know we're just using Kincaid, but I can't, I'm not avoiding Dalton Kincaid. I'm not avoiding Garrett Wilson. I'm not avoiding, you know, players that could be impacted by a potential trade chip. I'm also not going to go crazy for Debo Samuel because Brandon

and you make it traded. I'm not going to go crazy for Jane Daniels because I, you can make come to Washington, you know, I mean, you just can't, can't factor that in right now. So TJ Hawkinson was traded at the deadline. Can you name another skill position player of significance? Amari Cooper. At the trade deadline? Wasn't he? To the Cowboys? Didn't the Cowboys acquire him midseason?

Almost positive. Yes, they did. That might be the case. But it feels like that feels like it was five years ago. Oh, yeah. Maybe you're right. So now that's two trades in the last five years. Am I missing one? It was six years ago. It's 2018. Two in the last five years am i missing one it was six years ago 2018

two in the last six years there might be one or two that are yeah good call mcafree yeah okay but it's still rare it's still rare right and let's so let's go there's just a lot of like salary cap issues that go into it as well it's not like baseball or basketball um teams don't tend to do this i think the nfl wants it to be that way and that's why But there's just a lot of salary cap issues that go into it as well. It's not like baseball or basketball. Teams don't tend to do this. I think the NFL wants it to be that way, and that's why they keep moving the trade deadline back. But I don't think you can project anything like that.

All right, next question is from Matt. Give me 30 seconds on this. If McCaffrey is the first pick, is it too much of a reach to grab St. Brown with the second pick in a PPR draft? I think it is. But if that's your guy and you've got the most conviction on him, then do it. So just going back to the safety question, Lamb's got a contract situation he's dealing with right now, may not be there for camp. Chase has Joe Burrow and his wrist injury.

Jefferson has quarterback concerns. I mean, Tyreek is 30. So, I mean, there's all five receivers that are going to go in the top five of that position can easily be number one. Easily can be over 20 PPR points per game. They showed it last year. Yep. Matt, it's your team. Fantasy is supposed to be fun. Draft the players that you want.

Or trade down. See if you can make a move to get two or three spots lower to get safe run. There you go. Brad from Nashville. My team's depth was sunk last year by falling for Cam Akers and Damian Pierce hype. Who are the most likely versions of them this year?

Hmm. So those guys were like in the twenties, right? Pierce ended up being a fourth round pick. I don't think acres is. I'll take a look. It wasn't far off that high. So my first thought is running backs that haven't don't have a good track

record, or maybe they just did a little bit of work. So, I mean, I hate to put some mere white in that category, but he's someone that stands out. Um, maybe Pollard,

although he's had a lot more work, Rashad white was a one-year wonder. It's Pacheco one-year wonder. I think kind of, I don't know. I think Pacheco is a one-year wonder. Kyron comes to mind. He was,

he's a second round picker, a third round pick Pierce. I mean, he. Kyron comes to mind. He's a second-round pick or a third-round pick. Pierce, I mean, Kyron was so much better than Pierce. That's definitely true. But it's also like Tahit's point about this is coaching change. And so how much does that matter? Because what we've seen from these guys has been when these out-of-nowhere running backs, and we're talking about the James Robinsons, the Damian Pierces, I'm sure I'm going to leave out a couple guys that were late round picks or undrafted free agents that just surprised everybody, had good camps. And then you say, okay, here they go.

Akers isn't really in that category, but Akers was, I don't think he's ever been the same or will ever, unfortunately, be the same coming off the Achilles injury. So, Zemir White is an obvious one. You know, he's in the Alexander Madison camp. We keep making that comp. I wonder, just from an ADP standpoint, is Jonathan Brooks going to be that guy just because he may not be right in year one, you know, coming off the ACL tear from Texas. Or it might be until December when we really see him. I'm going to give you the four running backs who, over the last six seasons,

have finished in the top 12 while being undrafted in fantasy. James Robinson and Mike Davis in 2020. Cordaro Patterson in 2021. Kyron Williams in 2023. All of them had opportunities pop for them after training camp started. And then they just, they got hot early on. And that was that.

Gosh, Kyron Williams is going to be. Just protect yourself. Get Blake Corum with them. It's easier said than done. Right. But similar to Pacheco, same coaching staff, great offense. Like, you know, and, and McVay for what it's worth, you know, not that we were discounting it.

You know, we said that Kyron was a guy to take a late round flyer on, not expecting this clearly, but you know, he was one of the guys that they didn't play in the preseason. Who Kyron? Yeah. Yeah. They don't play healthy preseason,

but he was healthy. They, no, the Rams is like, do not play guys in the preseason. I love them. No, they play backups.

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That that's true i love them for that though that's one less stupid preseason game that i have to overreact to and draft darren waller and you know whoever else who's the guy on this marquez calloway i remember drafting marquez calloway over brandon cooks a few years ago i'm gonna say i'm gonna tell you right just, I'm going to watch all the preseason games because it's our job. I'm going to put much less stock into it than I have in the past. Can I tell you a funny thing

about Marcos Callaway? That's actually worked out well for me, but he was the first swing and miss. So, Dave and I are in a 14-team Dynasty League run by Heath Adams,

loosely associated with my team in that one. So, for the last three seasons, I've spent the majority of my fab budget on the first waiver run in our league a player's just got that didn't get drafted the first year i did that was marcus calloway i spent all my fab on him and he sucked the last two years i've done that

has led to isaiah pacheco puka nakua and kyron williams yeah all right um all all all of those guys have been first run waivers and um has jack fixed our record yet no but we but we're not gonna lose we lost the poll so we're gonna lose so then okay so uh in in that same fab run last year jack is a bucks fan um jack spent uh we have a thousand dollar fab budget jack spent 700 of his a thousand dollars i think it was 700 on uh trey palmer jeez uh for 400 i got both kyron and puka yeah yeah i gotta stop being thrifty all right let's let's get to our next question there's really no guy this year unfortunately now somebody might emerge but someone will yeah but the problem is is that i i think the league has been a little bit smarter because idp league also and typically what tends

to happen is we start to get around three in that league i know i'm going on a tangent but typically start to get around three in that league the the guy who hates me on youtube's gonna love this um the typically getting around three um is uh the idp players start to come into play and there's The guy who hates me on YouTube is going to love this. Typically, you get in round three, is the IDP players start to come into play. And there's, honestly, Dave, the ton of talent that's available on waivers is all the IDP guys, because we drafted, I think, almost every skill player for the first time offensively this year.

Great. I thought I was the only one that was on top of that. Okay, question from the heart. Now that you said something, and everybody in the league watches this, they're going to know. Great. I thought I was the only one that was on top of that. Okay, question from Art. Now that you said something and everybody in the league watches this, they're going to know. Question from Art. Hey, Sammy, Eddie, Alex, and Michael.

Is that... Yeah, tears for fear is head over heels now. Van Halen, how would you draft a redraft league if all five of your starters were flexes? Including quarterbacks? I'm guessing not quarterbacks. But if it were, then I would draft five quarterbacks. So like the fishbowl?

Basically. You have to start with one running back, one wide receiver, and then the rest are flexes. One tight end. Yeah, but that's not even what this is. This is literally five starting lineup spots. Man, I probably need a receiver. I don't think I'd go after tight ends as fast.

I might go five straight receivers if it's full PPR. And if it's non-PPR, I might do like three running backs, two wide receivers. Let's just assume it's not non-PPR. So let's go half PPR. There's still a lot of people that play non-PPR, I might do like three running backs, two. Let's just assume it's not non-PPR. So let's go half PPR. There's still a lot of people that play non-PPR, Adam. Not Art. Not Art. Not a Van Halen fan.

He wouldn't play non-PPR. He might, actually, if he's been playing fantasy football since Van Halen was popular. But in half PPR, it's a tougher call. Probably, yeah, mix it up. You know, running back. Let's take, like, Isaiah Pacheco versus Chris Olave.

Who do you think scored more points last year in half PPR? Pacheco. I think it was Pacheco. Okay. I think I need a second to tell you. Are you doing this on per game or total? No, total.

Total stinks, dude. Okay. Per game, Olave was 11.6. Pacheco was half PPR. Pacheco was 13.9. Booyah. Next question. This is from MC. Ooh, I hate this.9. Booyah. Next question. This is from MC.

Ooh, I hate this one. Hammer. Hate this one. Have to give your boy Dan some credit here. The wife and I were searching for a movie to watch. I'd just listened to the podcast where he mentioned The Prestige. That's my, whatever his name is. What's that actor's name?

Michael Caine. The Prestige. That was supposed to be my name. So bad. Failed. You mashed away. Anyway, the movie is epic. So good. Give Dan a movie segment.

And then Justin says... Listen, the reason we gave Dan crap for that was, and to his point, proven correct, I still think we were set up for that says, listen, listen, the reason we gave Dan crap for that was and to his point, proven correct. I still think we were set up for that one, Adam, because Thomas had that very quickly. That top 50 movie all time. Yeah, I don't believe it. And then Thomas, without like hesitation, it wasn't like, hey, let me go look that like it took you what? 30 seconds to look up who was the best half PPR? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You had to search for it. Thomas, all of a sudden, bang, IMDb, top 50 movies. I don't know if he has that at the ready, but that was a little quick. Okay, anyway, Justin says, The Prestige is the most underrated movie of all time and a top five Christopher Nolan movie. One, Inception. Two, Dark Knight. Three, The Prestige. Four, Interstellar. Five, Memento. all time and a top five christopher nolan movie one inception two dark night three the prestige

four interstellar five memento so am i am i supposed to think that christopher nolan has three top 50 movies of all time it's possible possible that's what he's claiming uh and then steve says subject line adam for for president. I am interested. I'm happy to step up. I can try. Okay, he knows I hate keeper questions, so he has two questions, one specifically for me. One, Dan and Malik neighbors are hanging from a cliff.

You have one hand on each, like in the movie The Good Son. Who are you saving, Adam? Wow. Yeah, I'm going to save Dan, because I couldn't possibly pull up Malik Neighbors. I'm not strong enough to do that. The right answer is that Malik Neighbors could probably

save himself if he had to. Dan would die. He'd pull me with him. That's what sucks about it. That's true. That's true. Dan would,

it's like in the, was it Avengers Endgame, right? When they're fighting to see who's going to die to get the stone. Never seen it. Did you ever see The Good Son? No. It's a really good movie.

Chilling ending. All right, here's the keeper question. Must keep three in a PPR league, one quarterback, four point per passing touchdown. You can keep them for up to three seasons, except for Jamar Chase. He can only be kept for one more season. So pick three.

Jamar Chase in the fourth round. James Cook in the 11th round. Sam Laporta, 13th round. A-Chan, 13th round. James Cook in the 11th round. Sam Laporta, 13th round. A-Chan, 13th round. Anthony Richardson, 13th round. It's one QB? One QB is four point per passing touchdown.

Laporta. It's three? Laporta and Cook are musts, especially. You got them for three seasons at that type of price? I'm going to go Laporta, Cook and A-Chin. I was going to say Richardson. Laporta, Cook and Richardson

for you? I agree that A-Chin, if things click right this year, he'd be amazing. But I think Richardson might have just like a safer chance than A-Chan of having more long-term success. Close call.

All right, let's go, you two. Let's get your questions in, and let's start with this one from Adam Arnold. He picked something named Adam. I love the initials. 12-team PPR, two flex, one keeper, redraft league. Hookah is being kept. Should I keep Brees Hall in round four

or Sam Laporta in round 10? Oh, Brees. Yeah. I hate throwing Laporta back, but Brees. Yeah, I don't. This is a layup. In a league, it's from Jake. That's funny. Jake SF at his logo. His avatar is a State from Jake. That's funny.

Jake SF at his logo. His avatar is a State Farm logo in a league with Jake. Maybe it is. Welcome, Jake from State Farm in a league with half a point tight end premium khakis half point tight end premium.

If you have two top tight ends is one worth of flex, even If you have two top tight ends, it's one worth of flex, even if you have good wide receivers. Yes. Yeah. What do you think Jake from State Farm wears to the beach? Khakis.

Khaki bathing suit. Yeah, nobody knows. This Vern is going khakis. Why are you saying that? It's like the original Jake from State Farm commercials. Oh, yeah? What are you wearing? The guy's like khakis.

Well, is that a Jake from State Farm commercial? Yeah, it is. But it was a different Jake. Right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a different Jake. It was a different Jake, and it was the wife who was accusing the husband of on a phone call with his mistress. But instead, it was with Jake from state farm. Yeah.

Mr. Scampers thinks he wears a khaki romper to the beach. Do you still have your, your giants romper? I do have my giants romper. Yeah. I, I, if I,

I'd love to wear it on the show, but he wouldn't really be able to tell that it's a romper. It's a onesie. It's not a romper. It's a onesie. Matt Weber, PPR league, Olave for a seventh or

kincaid for an eighth olave same well she's a guy so yeah that was one of the lines it's a really funny commercial it's probably on youtube you can find it, I'm waiting for questions to come in. Let's check our Tiltify page. $126. We only got one more donation. We got a $25 donation from Nikki T, who bought a question on a future mailbag. So that is good stuff.

Nice. Thank you. Tinyurl.com slash draftathon2024. Question from Jonathan. Half PPR, 10-team league, Nico Collins in the 13th round or Anthony Richardson in the 15th round? Nico. Gotta be Nico.

Yeah. Superflex would change that answer, I'd say, but sure. Wait, did we answer this, right? We answered Olave for a 7th or K for an 8th? Like two minutes ago. I just wasn't paying attention. You're too busy thinking about Jake from State Farms khakis.

What are you guys doing this weekend? Working. Oh, no, yeah. A little bit. Horrible. Something that doesn't cost money, because I just got back from las vegas and boy are your arms tired okay is the industry overly optimistic on the jets yes sort of no

like we're not we're not over ranking rogers i don't think anybody's going crazy we talked about conklin on the tight end show but like Conklin, Mike Williams, Malachi Corley. I think people, because we got this question a few weeks ago, were saying two Jets in round one. That's being overly optimistic for a guy that's 40 coming off an Achilles tear. Now, I think when you take the big picture, if he's even just healthy and upright, he's clearly better than what they had last year.

Plus, the offensive line has been significantly upgraded. So it makes sense to a buy into Wilson from just a passing standpoint, because he was good with Joe Flacco and Mike White as a rookie and B Brees Hall was amazing last year with all the trash around him. And now everything should be better. Tim McGuire, not a sports movie says half PPR, 12 team league.

Dave, Dave likes my humor. Brees Hall in the fourth round or Kyron Williams in the 10th round. McGuire, not a sports movie, says half PPR, 12 team league. Dave likes my humor. Brees Hall in the fourth round or Kyron Williams in the 10th round? Kyron. Yeah, better value with Kyron. Better talent is Brees, though. I'm going to say

Brees. You know that song Kyrie or something like that as as a mr mr kiri you know that it's like latin you know that song no we could do yes you do everyone knows that song yes jamie do you know the road that i must travel yeah yes oh yeah like we could do a kyron thing on that, right? Last question. Yeah, please don't. Don't do that ever. Which rookie running back are you targeting late in drafts? Kamani Vidal would be one.

Tyrone Tracy would be another. But I don't think he's going as late as you're thinking. Bucky Irving is another one depending how deep the draft is garendo um what about marshall lloyd yeah he usually goes in the in that range i guess he's in that round 10 range i'd say yeah i i saw something where the packers' office coordinator's name escaped me right now. It's not LaFleur. Said they want to give him work. Who? That's definitely expected. Marshawn Lloyd?

Yeah, definitely. Stanovich. For what it's worth. Megan Schaup. Schaup. Schaup. Let it all... It's here, it's here.

She wrote a very quick story. If you ever see any of her work on CBSSports.com, I love how she gets right to the point. Very quick read. Minute long read. She says Josh Jacobs is being underdrafted. She's talking about in best ball. And that there's too much hype on Marshawn Lloyd

because of coach speak. Just another perspective for you. We have got to go. We have FFT Express. Speaking of writing, before we go. Oh, yeah. I'm a writer now. Adam's a writer now.

So two things. First off, you got to check out, I forget which one it was, Adam Rhymes in one, and make sure you're aware that he rhymes. Sleepers, yeah. And then he was so lazy that he didn't come up with his own bus. He just commented on all of our bus. Yeah, that piece is published now.

It's Devil's Advocate on six bus calls. Because I said, listen, man, I'm the last one to write sleepers. I'm the last one to write breakouts. Last to write bus. I can't think of it. You do realize I have to do it two more times, right? Yeah, but you're going to have some of that. You're going to have a lot of repeats right you're not just gonna come up with a

completely new call it's like you guys took all of the good ones you we wasted the good surprise on you you you took all of them so i had to think of something new so i was like you know what maybe people in this industry don't have different thoughts on different players i know right if it's and so i just said these are six that I don't necessarily disagree with them. I was playing devil's advocate. I disagree with some of them. One of my favorite stat that I unearthed from this, give me one second. I'll read it to you exactly.

Because it was Saquon Barkley was the bus call by Heath. And over the last two seasons, the Philadelphia Eagles lead the NFL with 79 carries inside the five-yard line. The Giants had 36. Is that running back carries? No. That's all carries. So that includes everything that Jalen Hurts does. Running back carries,

the Eagles had the fourth most at 42 over the last two years. The Giants had the third fewest at 26. Bang. Bang, bang, choo-choo train. That was my point. It's like even if Jalen Hurts gets 10 rushing touchdowns, I still think there could be 10 for Barkley.

Well, again, what was it two years ago? It was 11%? Yep. Exactly. Exactly. So why is the top 15 pick? I just think the problem with Barkley, and this is our projections, is I think he's our second running back.

Oh, yeah. I also said like if he's going in the first round, that's too early. But he's, I think, a very good second-round pick. And the other thing I noticed, I didn't know this before, three straight years we've had two running backs finish in the top seven in PPR with 40 or fewer catches. It's just not, you don't need 50 to get to be a top seven running back,

be a top five running back, and we have to go. We'll talk to you. By the way, Taequann is a first round pick. I know. In non-PPR. No, in full PPR, I think on CBS, he's a first round pick.

I don't know if I'd take him in the first round. No, we would. We'd take him in the second round. Donate to Draftathon. Have a great weekend. Talk to you Monday, everybody.