Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag! Rookie Gems, Bye Weeks, Tom Cruise and More (07/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:33 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? I had no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Preseason form.
Starting point is 00:01:55 We've got to get into midseason form for our Friday mailbag, okay? This is a rehearsal, basically, for us. Our Friday mailbag is actually a Saturday mailbag. We record it on Friday. It airs on Saturday throughout the season. We love it. We have a Saturday mailbag. We record it on Friday and it airs on Saturday throughout the season. We love it. We have a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:02:07 We have those good Friday vibes. We make fun of Dan all the time. That's how we're going to start out today's show. I just got to say, like I, as a friend, okay,
Starting point is 00:02:17 I'm saying this as a friend. Okay. You have a career to think about. Okay. So when you make a bold prediction, don't make one that is so ridiculously bold that it's just gonna make you look bad i mean bijan robinson as rb1 what yep way to step out on the ledge for that one here oh i mean i mean christian mccaffrey's like the
Starting point is 00:02:40 assumed one one that's pretty bold i know but i, you're talking about a guy, RB3 in average draft position, and you're predicting him to be RB1. I mean, Dan, you've got a career to think about here. You can't be doing this. Well, that was only one of my three bold predictions. The other ones were that Caleb Williams would break two records, set two new records. I think that's pretty bold.
Starting point is 00:03:00 One of them being a team record, not even an NFL record. So what? That's even more bold. The team's been around for hundreds of years. The team has been around longer than, well, they've been around longer than the NFL. They've been around since World War I. Okay. The team was before football.
Starting point is 00:03:16 The Bears still. You know what? I got a bones pick with you, Adam, might I add. Oh, yeah. I got a bones pick with you. Okay. I need the popcorn meme. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Get your popcorn ready. Two things that Adam has done that have been, you know, not great friend things. We're talking about careers here. How about friend things? Okay. One, I invite Adam to something awesome that he was the first person I thought of as a diehard fan of this team. Okay. Literally the first person I thought of.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Two weeks ago, I invite him to a Yankees game this Friday that a company has reached out to me and they got me a box suite behind home plate. Organize my Uber, paying for my Uber, everything set. Adam, first person I reach out to. He's like, yeah, I can do it. No worries. I'm like, okay, great. Three days before the event, he calls me up and he's like, you know what, man? I can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:02 So now he can't do that. It's okay. Fine. You know what? I'll let that pass. So then last night I'm preparing for something, you know, Thomas, like you want to come on the show. You want to join FFT. You want to talk bold predictions. You're the guy who organized the bold prediction piece, did it for the magazine, you know, got everything together. You want to talk about your bold predictions. Awesome. Okay. I'll be on the show five minutes before the show is set to air earlier this morning. I'm prepared. I'm
Starting point is 00:04:24 everything. My computer set up. I'm literally in stream yard. Adam's like, no, we don't need you for the show. Goodbye. And I was just like, Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:04:31 Adam, I did. I didn't know that Heath was on the show. I thought Heath was not on bold prediction. So when I found out he was on, I kicked off Dan. Now the funny part is this, I'm just discovering based on your story.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You said you were in stream yard, which is the program that we use to record our, you know, these videos, put them on youtube uh you were in the wrong link because you were in this link by the way because he that i were in the stream yard the real one okay so you know what just letting you know by the way i have a question minor detail i just need to get clarity on this so you invited him to a yankee game the game is fr Yes. Did you say earlier today you're going to an ice cream social on Friday? No, Saturday. Oh my God. If you were going to pass up the Yankees game to go to some ice cream
Starting point is 00:05:11 social like a 65-year-old human being, you would never hear the end of it. Box sweet, but I'm home plate and he's missing it. Believe me, I don't want to miss it. I couldn't make it happen. All right, let's get into our show here. It is a mailbag. Before, though, we do have some controversy. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Can I just, let me hold on one second. Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com is our email address, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, and also Apple Podcasts. Great way to get your question answered right now. Apple Podcasts questions. Leave us a five-star review and a question within that review, but tell people why you like the show. Help us grow.
Starting point is 00:05:45 We still want to grow always. Spread the word. So, yes, go ahead, Jamie. Go ahead. So we have some controversy regarding our fantasy baseball team. And you've been very, no pun intended, adamant about our record being changed, which it should be because we rightfully won a week that was taken from us because of our opponent having an illegal lineup.
Starting point is 00:06:09 You've since said that you called out the commissioner, right? And you did so via the league chat. Well, I warned him. I said, if you don't- Yeah, you did. No, it's been weeks coming. We are now week 12. This was started in week two.
Starting point is 00:06:21 He's backstage. He's coming on the show. And to defend himself, our esteemed commissioner, Jack Capitardo. What's up, Acer? What is this? The GOAT commissioner. Look at the backwards hat. He's coming in hard with that backwards hat.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Oh, no. All right. Well, you know what? Man, when you don't think you have to actually face the guy, it's easy to criticize. Okay. Go ahead. Defend yourself. Because in week two, one of our guys, Eric, is his name.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He had an illegal lineup. We agreed that at the end of the week, we were going to take out his highest scoring second baseman and his highest scoring starting pitcher because he started an extra one of each. Is that fair, though? Is that fair? You agreed to it. I think it's fair.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You suggested it, you know. But your original suggestion was even more harsh. You said, all right, I'm going to give him the L. And we said, no, just let's see what happens. Take out his highest scoring starting pitchers, highest scoring second baseman, and then see how it changes the results. And he went from a win to a loss. But, Jack, that was week two.
Starting point is 00:07:21 We're in week 12 now. Jack has not changed the record. Okay, so I called you out on the record okay so i called you out on the message from the playoffs you know i called you out on the message board today i was i was had it up to here go ahead jack you know people people around the office it's buzzing people don't know who you are you know people now now they just think you're some old angry guy that just yells at me at fantasy boards so it's not up to me they're like who is this guy is that really i hear a lot of beating around the bush here from jack but you know what jack you got to take
Starting point is 00:07:50 ownership what happened i am the villain in this community yeah what happened uh so all right let's let's go to let's go to week one so week one there was um there was a couple rain rain outs, so I had to take off a legal lineup. So if you had more than enough players in your lineup, or if you're stacking players or you had too many bench players, you're getting a zero no matter what because we just weren't going to allow that. But I had to turn that setting off because there was many guys that were IL eligible, such as Kodai Senga of the Mets, who I think they got rained out the opening day. So he would have been on the I.L., but he didn't get actually put on the I.L. until
Starting point is 00:08:29 Friday. So I had to take that setting off, go to week two when Azar played, Azar and Jamie played EK. What? Eric. Everybody named Eric. We say their name. Eric.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. Yeah. Eric. They played week two. He added two players now i think cbs fantasy should not automatically put people you add into your lineup i think that is a now he's taking shots at the product going off the rails here no i think that's flawed i think if you add somebody they should go to your bench i don't think they should automatically put in second baseman why
Starting point is 00:09:02 do you need two second basements you don't i thought they did first of all but you're not mentioning that you forgot to take the illegal lineup you forgot to put the illegal lineup setting back on correct and that's on me which is my well i don't i don't think ek should be penalized as harshly as we think he should be well i think i think taking away corbin burns from his team is unfair because he's not going to bench corbin burns in this situation if he added aaron savali which is who he added, by the way, I'm pretty sure was possibly on IL in week two. He didn't pitch at all. He got a zero.
Starting point is 00:09:31 So I don't think he would have. He's clearly not benching Corbin Burns, which is what we're proposing in this situation. No, I am. I think he's going in too hard. OK, so so this is 10 weeks later. Now you're saying I said because he started an extra second baseman in SP, that we should remove the highest scoring one at each position because that is a penalty for having an illegal lineup.
Starting point is 00:09:52 At the end of the day, it's his fault for having an illegal lineup. You are now 10 weeks later, and you took a shot at me on the message board, by the way. You said you spoke to greater fantasy minds than me. I love that. They said that we should just take away the two guys that he actually picked up. But I said that's not really penalizing EK at all. Eric, that's not penalizing him at all.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So, Dan, what do you think here? I should put a fantasy mind. You're not going to like what I think, actually. What? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like you're kind of cherry pickingpicking this a little bit, Azar. I'll tell you why I think that.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I think in other situations, you're not like a big penalize the guy. There needs to be a penalty. I think you would in other situations be like, yeah, obviously it's the last two guys that he added that shouldn't be in the lineup because that's what he meant to do. His intentions were not to bench Corbin Byrne. If you're a big penalty guy, though, if this is your new thing and you're a, I'm a penalty guy. Anytime there's anything that somebody messes up on a little mistake here, a little mistake there.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Well, then I don't want to hear anything during the fantasy football season. If somebody clicks the wrong button and accepts a trade or something like that, because their intention was not to accept the trade. Their intention was to click reject. I'm muting him. We're supposed to follow what the commissioner says, right? I'm muting him. All right, fine.
Starting point is 00:11:08 You can go back. All right, what was that, Jamie? We're supposed to follow what the commissioner says, right? So the first exchange that we had with this was me texting Jack with you on it. How do you still have these texts? That's how phones work. Hey, commish, your settings might be off because Eric has an illegal lineup that's still scoring points. He has one extra second baseman and starting pitcher.
Starting point is 00:11:30 The commissioner's first response was, he'll take the L. Yes, exactly. You think that's the penalty. I said, no, no, that's too harsh, basically. No, I said that. I said, you can let him sit at a legal lineup, just pointing it out. And then you said, yes, you should remove the highest scoring second baseman, highest scoring pitcher.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And then Jack was like, yup. The commissioner said, I honestly thought the same thing. Yes, this is all Jack's fault. All Jack's fault. Yeah, but you guys see, it's unfair because you guys are very prestige in the fantasy fantasy realm. So, you know, I'm going to take your opinion most of the time and and believe it. But, you know, I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 You guys are too close to the situation. You know, you guys have been doing fantasy much longer than me. Hazer's a bully. We all know this. We've learned this. You guys bully me into this. I think it was unfair after after long consideration. I think it was too harsh. Long consideration, I think it was too harsh.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Long consideration? This is longer than consideration. Jack, I won't let him bully you anymore. I won't let him bully you anymore. And to be clear here, Azar was the commissioner of this league, and he didn't want to do it anymore. True. That is a very good point.
Starting point is 00:12:41 So he could have settled this all on his own. I hated being the commissioner. Because of me. Yeah, largely because of you. But all right. So apparently we're putting it up to a league vote, which is whatever. I'll let the league decide. But we've stayed in our case. Thank you for coming on, Jack. Vote
Starting point is 00:12:57 commissioner. Miss you, Azar. Thanks, Jack. All right. Let's get to our emails. Fantasyfootball at CBSi.com. This is from Matthew. Of the 2024 rookie class, who do you think has the potential to be this year's Puka Nakua? Okay. So are we saying –
Starting point is 00:13:16 Are we limiting this to just wide receivers or it could be any breakout at – any breakout, Adam? I don't care. Whatever you think. Okay. Okay. Nowhere. Yeah. Um, I got a pick after Jamie.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Jalen McMillan. I like that pick. Um, so it's gotta be late round guy. I'm going to say day three here or in that range. And I got a lot of options that I like here. I'm trying to think who I'm going to narrow it down to. Uh, I'm going to go a little higher than day three though. And that's okay because this is a player who's not really being drafted early anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And that player is Jermaine Burton at out. And the reason I'm going to put him there is the history of injuries with both T Higgins and Jamar chase, assuming one may go down the loss of Tyler Boyd and just the overall talent level of Jermaine Burton. One of the reasons why Puka was so good was that he was phenomenal on a per game basis at the collegiate level. He looked like he actually had superstar potential. He just was injured a lot. Jermaine Burton, not the exact same profile, but his film was absolutely elite. Like it was up there with just after the tier
Starting point is 00:14:25 of neighbors adunze and um and marvin harrison jr but he had a lot of issues off the field if he could reel that in if joe burrow can get him under center you know get him leveled and everything like that he could be that level talent that we're just not drafting high so i'm gonna go with burton okay works for me next up we have an email from Npal. Everyone says this wasn't very good. Oh, sorry. It's a question about Shane Waldron. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And he was saying that JSN wasn't very good last year with Shane Waldron. He was playing in the slot. Low ADOT. What does that mean for Keenan Allen in a Shane Waldron offense? Shane Waldron going from the Seahawks down to the Bears. And which quarterback has performed well under Shane Waldron? And what does that mean for Caleb Williams? Is Shane Waldron just a McVay disciple gone wrong?
Starting point is 00:15:20 I mean, he might be. But I think sometimes we get so caught up in X's and O's versus Jimmy's and Joe's. And you can't necessarily be a good coach if you don't have good players. And not to say that the Seahawks as a whole were bad players, but if Caleb Williams is as good as advertised, that's a big step up from Geno Smith. And so that's a big part of it for me is that if the quarterback works, the system will work better. And, you know, Gino took a little bit of a step back. We've talked about this a lot, you know, going from Canales to Waldron.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I just don't know if, you know, Waldron's offense fit what the Seahawks want to do. I'm hoping that the Bears offense will, or the Bears skill players will fit what Wald uh, what Waldron wants to do. So it certainly could be the case there, but, um, if Caleb Williams is good, I think the system will look fine. And I'll say this from a schematic standpoint, cause I agree with Jamie on that, though. I am, I will say this. I have voiced some concerns about Keenan Allen's role in this offense earlier this off season. It's a big reason why I'm so high on Romo Dunzey this year,
Starting point is 00:16:24 in addition to his unbelievable talent. But I'll say this from a schematic standpoint, one thing I think Waldron does a great job of is finding ways for the quarterback to set himself and find a landmark from in the pocket to strike vertically and hit those vertical shots. A big part of his system is setting up plays with pass protection with extra tight ends in there and these deeper drops
Starting point is 00:16:43 to kind of find those vertical shot plays, which I think works incredibly well with the skill set of romo dunes and i think dj moore can also win one-on-one the outside he showed it a lot more in carolina than last year it's a justin fields thing in my opinion but fields occasionally hit him there so i think those two are the ones who really benefit but look for the vertical passing game which also by the way fits perfectly with caleb williams's skill think this email is, I think, a little bit harsh on Shane Waldron. I don't think he's gone wrong at all. He got a great season out of Geno Smith. He was the coordinator for the Seahawks for three years.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They finished 16th, 9th, and 17th in points per game. So it's not like they were bad. But I do think one thing we haven't really talked about at all in terms of its relation to the bears is he was the offensive coordinator when they ranked 32nd, 22nd and 32nd in plays and 32nd, 30th and 32nd in time of possession. And we'll see if that transit, we hate that. So we'll see if that keeps going with the, with the bears. Hopefully one other thing about
Starting point is 00:17:45 waldron that i noticed just from from studying him during his time the seahawks a lot of zone running plays there was just very little power gap which is going to be different for deandre swift coming from philly who had a big mix and a lot of power gap i felt like he was better with power gap deandre swift we'll see if it if he can fit the zone system he was supposed to be his own back coming out but i i think he the processing hasn't maybe been there for swift but i'm curious to see which back fits that skill set the best but off that system the best and we gotta take a break but by the way dan uh if i had known that jack was coming on the show today yeah i would have kicked you off i didn't know i would yeah it would have been the second time in one day you kicked me off
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Starting point is 00:19:36 Of course I know this one. Modern Family. Oh, wow. I'm surprised. I took you for one of those guys who thinks he's too smart for Modern Family. Hell no. I'm surprised you've actually watched Modern Family. I've seen Modern Family countless times. I think it's one of those guys who thinks he's too smart for Modern Family. Hell no. I'm surprised you've actually watched Modern Family. I've seen Modern Family countless times.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I think it's one of the best shows, the best sitcoms in the last decade, maybe ever, honestly. Good for you. If you really watch the show, the writing is phenomenal. Oh, it's amazing. Great show. The subject line is, worse claim than Peyton Barber. And that was in reference to my dropping Justin Jefferson for- Oh, I forgot when you did that.
Starting point is 00:20:05 That was devastating. That was his third season, too. That was last year. He said, I dropped Dak Prescott during his bye week for Jeff Wilson. The team that picked up Dak won the championship. That's bad. But the question here is, how do you guys decide between potential number one receivers on average offenses compared to number two receivers on great offenses i find myself always straying toward the number one guys
Starting point is 00:20:30 especially in ppr strictly due to target upside for example i tend to want pitman over waddle or the 49ers guys uh the way i play it is i think you're right to chase targets targets and volume are everything in fantasy football but you have to be sure that they this player is a defined number one target. I'll use your example here, Michael Pittman. I'm not so sure. If you look at the numbers of Anthony Richardson last year, he actually averaged the same amount of targets per game as Josh Downs and his targets went way up after Richardson went out of the lineup. So I think it's really important to understand the offensive system, the quarterback receiver rapport, and be really sure that that guy actually is getting a funnel of targets because otherwise I'll take the quarterback and I'll take the offense and the productive and
Starting point is 00:21:08 healthy passing game. Number two receiver over the assumed one, unless I could be really sure based on, you know, all the factors I laid out. But how many examples of that are we going to, you know, come across, you know, so Malik neighbors is going to be in this conversation, right? Right. Unproven number one. I think Deontay Johnson belongs in this conversation, you know, going from, you know, really the, I think you still consider him the number one in Pittsburgh, you know, to now the number one in Carolina, but it's, you know, sort of a, an unproven situation there. Like Michael Pittman to me is,
Starting point is 00:21:41 I know you have to sort of almost reestablish who he is on a yearly basis because he's played with so many different quarterbacks. And you probably say the same thing about Drake London at this point and maybe even Garrett Wilson. There's just not a lot of examples of this, I think, where you're comparing the number two guy because there's so few number two guys that are going to be better than the number one. I don't agree. I think there are a lot. I think you've got Devontae Adams versus Jalen Waddell, let's say.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Pittman versus Ayuk or Nico Collins. Anybody against the Texans receivers. We just talked about Pickens versus Tank Dell. Christian Kirk versus, let's say, Calvin Ridley. Or, you know, a little bit later, Deontay Johnson versus DeAndre Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I think there are actually a lot of these. But maybe in all those situations that you just outlined, Adam, I feel like I like the number two better than chasing the one there that I'm not so sure about, especially with, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:32 you have to, like, these passing games, some of these passing games where we're chasing the one, the assume one target, they're really unhealthy passing games that are not moving the football. They're punting a lot. They're not in scoring position a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And that's why a couple years ago we had T. Higgins score so many points and Jalen Waddle score so many points and both were two of the better value picks of that year. Well, I got updated research now looking at the top 12 wide receivers in PPR. The number I have, the numbers for non half and full, but if we want to look at PPR last eight seasons, 96 wide receivers have finished top 12. 64% of them have been on top 12 offenses, top 12 points per game. Half of them were on top eight offenses. And only 15%, a total of 14 wide receivers over the last eight years,
Starting point is 00:23:23 were on offenses that ranked 20th or worse in scoring. So I've always said this. Now, this is only top 12. You want to talk about just being top 15, top 20. You're not going to see nearly as much correlation, obviously. But I always say this, like good offenses are worth targeting. So that's why I think it's reasonable. No one's doing this. But I think it's reasonable to take T. Higgins over Michael Pittman.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I think so, too. I think it's reasonable as well. Higgins over Michael Pittman. I think so too. Jamie, I think it's reasonable as well. And I might be doing it myself. Uh, I mean, again, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:50 it's, there's an unknown with the Colts, right? There's an, yeah, there's an, I'm not so sure Michael Pittman is going to get, he was getting so many targets last year.
Starting point is 00:23:59 If you look at the numbers, his production is all based on the volume and that's what Gardner Minshew. That's not the same quarterback. It's, but if he, if he sees a spike in touchdowns, right? is production is all based on the volume. And that's what Gardner Minshew. That's not the same quarterback. But if he sees a spike in touchdowns, and it's a different type of performer. Now, again, there's enough of a body of work here with different quarterbacks throughout his career, from Rivers to Wentz to Minshew.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I'm missing somebody in between there. A little bit of Richardson, but only a few games, not really. Yeah, you have the rookie whose name... Who are we missing? Oh, they had Ellinger for a little bit. Yeah, Sam Ellinger. Ellinger. Oh, and Matt Ryan. I'm sorry, Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Oh, and Nick Foles for a little bit. So there's a lot of different things that play here in different systems. But the thing is, this is the most dynamic and explosive quarterback he's played with and the guy in his prime but you like waddle better than adams right i like waddle better than adams and pittman you know so i would take waddle over both yeah because i think last year waddle was more of a victim of his injuries now higgins is an interesting one you know just because
Starting point is 00:25:00 again what we've seen from him and what he has the ability to do. Same with Devontae Smith. You know, another guy second on his team in what should be explosive offense. Higgins in a contract year. Devontae Smith just got the contract, though. Yeah, there's not a ton of research to say that. Like, Jake Sealy's talked about this. He's done research.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Sometimes guys in contract years have great years. Sometimes they have bad years. Fair. But also, to be fair, I kind of made it sound like the Colts are going to have a bad offense, which I think is stupid. I don't think they're going to have a bad made it sound like the colts are going to have a bad offense which i think is stupid they're not i don't think they're going to have a bad offense at all i think they have a really good obviously they're not gonna have as good of a passing
Starting point is 00:25:31 offense as the bangles though well but on the touchdown front that jamie talked about one thing i consider is one has pitman been a touchdown scorer at any point in his career a big time touchdown scorer and then two are we going to lose some inside the red zone looks to richardson's ability to run zone read and to just with jon and him just kind of, you know, take over in the red zone with those two. Yeah, I used to have some examples of, you know, we took we took the number one guy on a bad offense over the number two guy on a good offense. And it was almost always like the number two guy would not almost always, but often the number two guy would win. Then last year, DJ Moore changed all of that. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:07 In fact, I told you only 14 wide receivers over the last eight seasons finished top 12 on an offense that right. 20th or worse in scoring. Three of them actually did it last year. And I actually going to say it was DJ Moore three times dating back to his Carolina days of the quarterbacks. He had their actually in the bears on 18th and scoring.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I don't think it was, it was Mike Evans. They were in scoring. It was Mike Evans. They were 20th. It was Keenan Allen. I think the Chargers were 21st. And it was Devontae Adams. The Raiders were 23rd. So none of them were terrible offenses.
Starting point is 00:26:35 But, you know, and also... The target volume is hard to overlook. Yeah, it is. Good wide receivers also make offenses better. And it's the most predictable thing in fantasy. So it still is important. As far as scoring goes and it's the most predictable thing in fantasy so it still is important like for as far as scoring goes the most predictable thing it's not the most predictable thing though in the sense of like where can we be sure that volume is going to go to that player that's the key though to me okay so let's do a few quick ones of i'll give you a
Starting point is 00:26:58 number two wide receiver versus a number one malik neighbor if these guys are going back to back in fantasy pros ADP Malik neighbors or Devante Smith Smith um Michael Pittman versus Nico Collins I'll take I think that's a Nico for me
Starting point is 00:27:19 Zay Flowers or Pittman nope nope that's wrong Zay Flowers or Pittman? Nope, nope, that's wrong. Zay Flowers or Tank Dell? I think that's a Flowers for me just because I'm really high on Flowers this year. George Pickens or Tee Higgins? That's a Higgins for me.
Starting point is 00:27:38 That's Pickens for me. Yeah. Jamie's high on Pickens, though. I think you had him in either Breakouts or Sleepers, one of the two. Breakouts. And... That's that'll... Jamie's high on Pickens, though. I think you had him in either Breakouts or Sleepers, one of the two. Breakouts. And, uh... Eh, that's that'll...
Starting point is 00:27:49 Deontay Johnson or DeAndre Hopkins? Johnson. Johnson. Okay. Next up, we have Joe. Subject, Adam and Dan BFF. If you could make the other watch a series they haven't seen, what would it be?
Starting point is 00:28:05 Dan can't say Sopranos and Adam can't say Golden Girls. I think for this, that's first of all great. I think for this, I should say, I can't say The Wire either. So I'll name a series that I think you should watch. And if you've already seen it, you can just say yes. And then we'll go to the next one. Okay. The first one I would say to watch is The Americans.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Have you seen The Americans next one. Okay. The first one I would say to watch is The Americans. Have you seen The Americans? No. Okay. That is well worth a watch with arguably the greatest finale in the history of television, I would say. All things considered. Okay. Just the best way to end a show. So check out The Americans.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Phenomenal show. Do you know what it's about? Yeah, it's about people from North Dakota, Virginia, New York. Just all over America. What do you think, you're funny? You're not that nice to me today, buddy. You kicked me off a show. You declined my invitation to a box suite.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I mean, come on. That hurt me more than it hurt you. I would recommend The Shield for you. And if you think that's too old... I've seen The Shield. What else we got? Mirror of Kingston. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It's awesome. It's just awesome. I mean, you need to come up with a cell that was just not much of a cell it's extremely violent it's very well acted and it's just like every episode is hearts heart palpitating intensity it's terrific that the last part was a good sell all right uh this is jake from a from a borough of royalty oh Queens I get it oh I get it Brooklyn a long time ago Dave presented a drafting strategy where you could pull off a squad where you get a large portion of your team mainly your starters to have the same bye week you will have an advantage minus that one
Starting point is 00:29:37 week that year I actually pulled it off and won my league since then I haven't done it but with this upcoming season having two big bye weeks where a lot of players are effective, will anyone try to pull it off again? It's intriguing, to say the least. I had never heard of this. I missed this episode, and I missed Dave's strategy here. I just feel like if it falls into place, it's a good thing because you lose one week, but you can't draft for this
Starting point is 00:30:04 because then you're really – and unless you're in an you're, but like you can't draft for this. Cause then you're really, and unless you're in an auction salary gap, we can't really draft for this. Yeah. It just feels like you're trying too hard to accomplish a strategy. Like, Oh, I really love this play, but you know,
Starting point is 00:30:17 it doesn't go with the same bi-week as the rest of my roster. I'm just going to pass and take this other guys. Like, no, the small edge you're getting from the strategy is not outweighed by you giving up your edge of like drafting the best player available at each at each spot and i i don't know if anybody's ever tracked this or not but like the percentage of players that are on your roster yeah come the bye week yeah true it's probably so
Starting point is 00:30:41 different true yep you're right right. There's injuries. This is from Creston. What a great name. Probably our listener of the day. Creston says, Do you name your third kid, Creston? Sure. Because that's definitely never happening. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I have basically listened to every single episode over the past four or five years. This includes Dynasty and the five-minute episodes and the YouTube pregames. Thank you. So they know how long the five-minute episodes go. My only leagues are Superflex Redraft. Dad, yeah. There is very little Superflex talk and content.
Starting point is 00:31:20 So Creston, my third kid, wants some Superflex talk. You want to do enough of it? I feel like we do a pretty good job. Creston, I just want to step in here. Thank you so much for obviously being such a big supporter of the show. Superflex, here's my suggestion to you. One, check out our written side because I know you're into the content side on the podcast. We also have a great offering on the site.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And we do a lot of super flex stuff there. We do super flex mocks all the time, super flex content, super flex rankings. Um, he has super flex dynasty rankings that are on the site as well. So you can check,
Starting point is 00:31:54 check out that a super flex trade chart. So you can know our dynasty trade chart, I should say for super flex. So there's some specific, specific, specific stuff there. Sorry. I couldn't get that out.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And then as far as content on the show goes, Adam, I feel like you guys do a great job as we get closer to draft season. No? Hmm. No, maybe not. We will have a Superflex
Starting point is 00:32:12 specific episode. We'll have probably a live stream where we do a Superflex draft. We probably could do more. I think a lot of times when we talk quarterbacks, we may not talk enough Superflex strategy because I think for the most part,
Starting point is 00:32:27 unless Creston is, is looking for something different, you know, you play your quarterback and your suit, your second quarterback and your super flex, you know, but there's certainly other ways to approach it. But I usually think when we talk about quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:32:39 especially this time of year, we're saying he's X value in a one quarterback league and he's X value in Superflex. I mean, we could probably do more, sure, but I think we tend to bring that up when we talk quarterbacks specifically. Yeah, we could do a better job probably, but we never really talk about quarterbacks 20 and beyond. And, you know, in a Superflex league,
Starting point is 00:33:01 they're all important. Bryce Young is important. I thought you had a good pick in our rookie-only draft with Spencer Rattler. I was actually hoping he was going to get through to waivers. I'm a very good drafter. What can I tell you? Good drafter, bad trader. Very bad trader.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Okay. Our next email is about offensive coordinators. Do we under or overvalue coordinator changes? Last year, I drafted Eckler and Herbert thinking that Kellen Moore would elevate them. I think Tampa Bay will take a hit without Canales this year. And that's where it ends.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Let me just say that on Eckler. Eckler hurt his ankle in week one. It was clearly not the same. And it's pretty. Herbert was pretty good. He's had a good start to the season. That was basically without Mike Williams at all. Williams played three games.
Starting point is 00:33:50 A lot of injuries there, too, on the offensive line. Yeah. Herbert, before the Week 14 game where Herbert left with an injury, he was on pace for 4,300 yards, 28 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, and 323 rushing yards, 28 touchdowns, eight interceptions, and 323 rushing yards and four touchdowns. I mean, that had to put him in the top eight,
Starting point is 00:34:10 if not top five last year. That's not where we were drafting him, though. I think he was a little bit discounted coming off of... A tiny bit, but he was drafted pretty high. To answer the question,
Starting point is 00:34:23 or address the question, I wonder about this, because this is a big part of my analysis the coordinator um you have to play calling how it's going to impact volume things of that nature i this is maybe something good that we can do a study on or i can do look into doing a study on because i don't know the exact answer to this question i just know that i do put a lot of weight on it and maybe at times overweight it because there are situations where the talent takes over or, you know, the quarterback is just going to lean on the report, the receiver, regardless of what the coordinators passed in past is. I know this was like forgetting who it was, Torrey Smith. I remember back in this is such an old example.
Starting point is 00:34:56 When he joined the Ravens, he was joining someone's system and he was supposed to get like 140, 50 targets because of where that guy had used his ex receiver in the past. He ended up being a massive bust for fantasy because he wasn't the same player he was at that point. And they funneled the offense of their best players. So I still think talent will win out is generally the best way to play it. But the coordinators can play a role. Obviously, we saw it with Rashad White last year. Well, I mean, look, we're chasing, in some cases, the 49ers coaching tree.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So where these guys have ended up has been for the most part, good over the last couple of years. We just had the, the question about Shane Waldron, you know, coming from the McVay system. You know, we're going to find out probably quite a bit, you know, if it's Kirk cousins making the Falcons better, or is it cousins and Zach Robinson or is it Zach Robinson? You know, who's another guy coming from McVay staff, you know, so there's, I think the thing you're looking at for the most part is the, is the new systems,
Starting point is 00:35:49 the new coaches that are in place as opposed to the established ones, because you have an idea of what these guys are going to do, whether successfully or not. And so it's why we're, you know, for example, chasing the running game in, in Los Angeles for the chargers, you know, because of what Greg Roman has done and what Jim Harbaugh has done. You know, those things matter, you know, but to overvalue them, you know, so, you know, is a healthy Gus Edwards worth drafting as a starter? You know, that I think he'd probably be overvaluing him because of the system that he's in.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So those things, I think, you know, you don't necessarily want to just go all the way in, but you certainly want to buy into a little bit because of a tried and true situation. Like, you know, the Seattle one's intriguing to me, you know, with Ryan Grubb coming in and what his system was in Washington and how much that is going to carry over the NFL exactly, you know, in those type of scenarios.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Okay, moving on, next email here from Logan. 10-team Superflex League. I have Purdy, Debo debo and iuk i have the opportunity to land christian mccaffrey um is this a bad idea this is not a best ball league is it four starters from the same team too much in those four pretty good so yeah you know it's hard it's hard to say no you know you just got through talking adam Adam a little while ago about getting pieces to a good offense. This is one of the best in football.
Starting point is 00:37:08 So if you don't have to give up too much to get McCaffrey, then I think it's worth it. If you have to overpay to get McCaffrey because you want to do this, then I would avoid it. I think even what he's saying is he might have the first pick or something like that. If that's the situation, you can't pass on McCaffrey just because you have these other players. Because you always look to trade these players.
Starting point is 00:37:28 He has Brees Hall. He'd have to trade Brees Hall to get McCaffrey. It's super flex or no? I mean, it's a keeper dynasty or no? Doesn't say. I don't know. If it's not dynasty, it's a no-brainer. I would just do the trade.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah, the only thing is, is if you are looking longterm, Brees Hall, two years from now, maybe the consensus number one, when right now he's the number two. And you know, if it's just a one for one trade, I think I'd do it.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Cause he tried to win now, but if it's, you know, Brees Hall and something, I'm probably just keeping Brees Hall. Bold prediction. Brees Hall will be RB one this year. Oh,
Starting point is 00:38:06 you think it's so funny that I vote? That's another guy who's ranked ahead of my quote-unquote bad bold prediction. Another guy. All two of them. Unbelievable. Did you see what I said? I said that he would have – I'm not ready for this right now, okay? I'm not dealing with this right now, okay?
Starting point is 00:38:21 You're ready on my bad side after all that you've done today, specifically kicking me off a show that I prepared for. Well, you want me to kick you off FFT in five? I don't think you have a problem. All right, let's take a break. Hey, Dan, watch this trailer that Thomas is going to play on YouTube for this break right now.
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Starting point is 00:39:42 Plus, so this is an easy one for me. Mayor of Kingstown. Hi, Adam. This is from Dave and Flint. Just listening to the Knock Your Socks Off episode and hearing what you all said about Trevor Lawrence and how he got better at the end of the season. ETN did not do better, though. My question or thought, what if that is what the Jaguars coaches mean
Starting point is 00:39:57 when they say they want to take the load off ETN? By the passing game being better and not so much having a top backup to ETN. I like it. I think they want, I think they've pretty much said they're going to try to get tank Bigsby more carries. But I, I think that story is kind of a nothing burger as the kids say,
Starting point is 00:40:17 I think, yeah, like they'll give them fewer carries, I guess. But as long as they're not taking them off the field, you know, the goal line, which was a concern last year for me, but as long as they're not taking him off the field near the goal line, which was a concern last year for me, but as long as he doesn't lose, I think there's plenty of touches for ETN. I'm not as sold as you are. Obviously, ETN's not one of the players I'm targeting this year. I wasn't targeting him last year.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Sort of got burned by it last year, but he was not really good the last half of the season, including the fantasy playoffs. I don't really consider it that big of a loss, to be honest. But this year, I'm even more concerned about it, mostly because I saw a great, I don't know if you guys, do you guys know Derek Klassen, QB Klassen on Twitter? He's a quarterback evaluator, and he charts quarterbacks for Matt Harmon's site, and that's something they added to their repertoire.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And his charting showed that Trevor Lawrence's best areas of the field were the vertical, intermediate, deep half, the intermediate vertical half. And he's really good in marks there and then worse marks underneath. They added Gabe Davis. They added Thomas to the mix. That's a lot of vertical, big receivers who can get downfield and present a big option. He's always been a tall thrower. Trevor Lawrence, somebody throws high.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I think that could be the new offense for the Jaguars, a more vertical oriented offense. And I think it could be less of the, you know, West, not I want to call it West coast, but horizontal stuff that they've run with ETN in the past. It's just something I'm, I'm taking a look at and he'll definitely not be on my target list. ETN will not be on your target list. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Jamie final thought on this topic. I'm with you, Adam. I think it's more of a non-story that, you know, it's just more football talk than it is fantasy related. Clearly the Jaguars want to have somebody else for a keeping ETN fresh and be in case something happens to him.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I mean, you know, Dearness Johnson is not necessarily a feature type guy. And I think they believe that Bigsby has the potential to. So they're probably talking him up a little bit to make sure that they give him the type of confidence and ability, practice, work to be that guy. He wasn't that guy last year. So I'm not saying that Dan's wrong, that the offense changing
Starting point is 00:42:19 is going to potentially impact ETN, but I still think that he's got the upside to be a top five running back based on the offense that should be better, offense-wise should be better, and his production still in the passing game will be there. Okay, let's go rapid fire on these emails here. No more than one minute per each email because we have some Apple Podcast questions to get to.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Nathan says, Hey, Sam, Al, Jason, and Derek, those are Celtics players. Congratulations to the stupid Celtics for winning the championship. How much do you value consistency in a player? Is there a world in which Amon Ross St. Brown goes ahead of Jamar Chase since Amon Ross St. Brown has less bus games than Chase?
Starting point is 00:42:56 I think there's definitely a world where he goes ahead of Chase, you know, and he may go ahead of Justin Jefferson as well. To me, it's a mistake, but, you know, Jefferson, excuse me, St. Brown is, you know, going back to the show we did earlier this week, is almost as bus proof as you can find. You know, his numbers have increased each of the last three seasons, three years in the NFL. He plays in an offense where he's clearly the alpha.
Starting point is 00:43:16 You know, no matter what you think that Sam Laporta is capable of doing or what Jamison Williams might do, 64 vacated targets, those go to the other two guys, and they don't go to St. Brown in some capacity. The run game takes a step forward, which is hard to expect because they run the ball so well. He is so locked in with Jared Goff. We talked about the schedule that sets up for the Lions,
Starting point is 00:43:35 only three games outdoors, which is where Goff has kind of struggled, if you want to say that. He's just as safe as they come. So there's a little bit more volatility with chase Burroughs injury history. You know, that, that's something you have to factor in Jefferson and, and the quarterback situation being potential nightmare. Tyree kill is 30. If you want to put him in this conversation too, like St.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Brown is, is to me, like, I know Dan's got Bijan finishing as the best running back in history. Um, I would take the five receivers. Not that bad, Adam. Sorry, go ahead, James. I would take the five receivers, two through six, after McCaffrey comes off the board, ahead of Brees Hall and ahead of Bijan, because I think there's the potential for 20-plus PPR points from all of them.
Starting point is 00:44:20 They're safer. And the way that the draft sets up, where the running back's coming back to round two, which is a better way to draft, in my opinion. Okay, next email is from Russ. One quick thing to answer that question. I value consistency more at the beginning of the drafts. Early on, you don't want to lose.
Starting point is 00:44:35 In the middle and end of the drafts, that's when I'm not valuing consistency. I'm going for upside. All right. Sorry. From Russ. It seems everywhere I turn, leagues are becoming more and more tight end premium.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I don't hear about it much on your show. How much sooner are you taking the top guys in a two-point-per-catch league? I don't get tight end premium. Oh, tight end premium. I understand how it works. I don't understand why it exists. It's bizarre. It's to make that position more valuable.
Starting point is 00:45:03 That's why we do two quarterback leagues, too. No, that makes quarterback less valuable two quarterback league i'm sorry super flex leaks no it makes it more valuable i mean sort of but also kind of cheapens them because again there's like more scoring and now you need two of them. But I see where you're – obviously, I see what you're saying. It obviously makes them go earlier in drafts. But, yeah, I just don't get it. Oh, hey, here's a position.
Starting point is 00:45:34 We're just going to give them double the points for the catch. We're going to treat them like a completely different thing. It is – oh, you made a catch. That's worth two points. How stupid. I hate tight end premium, okay? It makes absolutely no sense. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I'll play any tight end premium league, whatever. But there is no purpose for them. No purpose for tight end premium leagues. I don't get it. That's why you trade Trey McBride from League Nevers. In a non-tight end premium, because I would never be the commissioner of a league that was tight end premium, because it's dumb.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Sorry, Scott Fish. Whoa. Well, no. Scott Fish does the Scott Fish Bowl a league that was tight end premium because it's dumb. Sorry, Scott fish. Whoa. Well, no, it's got fish. It doesn't Scott fish bowl and it's tight end premium. And it does change very, very basically just taking shots at Scott fish.
Starting point is 00:46:13 No, very much. That's going to be interesting draft the first couple of rounds. Cause why aren't we in the same Scott fish bowl again, Adam, we should make that a yearly annual thing. It's doing you a favor. I'm tired of kicking your ass.
Starting point is 00:46:26 You didn't kick my ass in that at all. First of all, wow, you just cursed on there. Second of all, you didn't kick my butt in that at all, if we're really thinking about it. Do we even remember? Didn't you draft bad players and not make the playoffs that year? No, I actually had a great year that year. I think I did
Starting point is 00:46:41 better than everyone else at CBS. This is anecdotal. Nobody believes this. Okay, the question is, you know what? I think I'm going to just leave it at my rant, but fine. When would you take Kelsey and Laporta in a tight end premium league where it's double the points for
Starting point is 00:46:57 a tight end? First round for sure for me. Probably mid first. I would actually look the second round at the earliest just because I think the position at the top is as good as we've seen. I know we say that all the time, but it feels like this is the case with Kelsey coming back to the pack and
Starting point is 00:47:13 Laporta and Andrews and hopefully McBride still and Kincaid. Hopeful for him. But there's a lot to like about the top six or seven, so I wouldn't want to reach in round one. But just remember, you're kind but there's, there's a lot to like about the top six or seven. So I wouldn't want to reach around one, but just remember, you're kind of thinking of it a little bit wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Maybe it's catches. It's not their touchdowns. It's not their yards. It's their catches that count for more. So it should also maybe change your tight end rankings. You, the gap between maybe Evan Ingram and Sam Laporta maybe shrinks. Now, maybe Laporta has a huge catch season.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't know. But Ingram had 114 catches and Laporta had 86 last year. Right, but they still have to make up the touchdown difference, too, if you're counting that as well. No, I'm not saying Ingram should go ahead. I'm just saying it's kind of like the difference. Yeah, Ingram's better in that format, for sure. It's like a six-point versus a four-point.
Starting point is 00:48:05 It should change your quarterback rankings. A tight end premium where it's two points for a catch, the higher catch guys... Like Dalton Schultz is going to be better in a non-tight end premium because you're hoping he finds the end zone seven times or something. There's almost no way Dalton Schultz is going to have a lot of catches. So just keep that in mind. Catches are the key here in this format,
Starting point is 00:48:27 which is dumb, as we've established. One more email here from Ted. Oh, no. You know what? Ted, I'm going to save this for another show. It's a really good email about Jonathan Taylor. How about this one? This will get me on another rant.
Starting point is 00:48:40 From, ooh, I don't have a name here. But he says, what are your thoughts on a third round reversal for redraft? Is it really a more fair way to draft? Is it more fair? Probably. We've done it a bunch now with Scott. So with Scott Fishbowl, so I know you hate it, Adam,
Starting point is 00:48:58 and now I've learned you hate it, Jamie. What do you guys hate about it if it's more fair? It's not more fair. Who said it's more fair? Jamie not more fair who said it's more fair Jamie just said I think it's a more fair way but I mean look you're giving the teams that pick at the back end of the first round the
Starting point is 00:49:11 opportunity to you know get a little bit of an advantage but yeah that's what happens in the second round of a snake no it doesn't actually Adam then here's the problem with your that's not fair oh really you think pick 12 pick 13 is not more valuable than pick 12 oh really you think getting the worst of the top 36 players, really? You think getting the worst of the top 36 players isn't bad? You think getting the worst of the top 48 players isn't bad?
Starting point is 00:49:29 The end of snake drafts is not a fair place to draft. And this is specifically true in super flex drafts. That's where it's really important, in my opinion, to have the third round reversal. Because you're really getting screwed by having a back-end pick in a super flex draft. There's only so many good quarterbacks that are worth drafting in that position. But it's just as bad in redraft. To me, I mean, I don't need to go on this rant right now, but snake drafts are playing.
Starting point is 00:49:50 But how is that helping you, though? How is that helping you in the third round reversal? You're still not getting those quarterbacks. No, but at least you're getting the best of the top, whatever it is, the 25 through 36. At least you're not always getting the worst of that top. No, you are getting that in the third round reversal. I mean, because he's
Starting point is 00:50:08 right. You might run out of great... You don't ever know with a super flex league. But third round reversal, if you had the 12th pick in the draft, you'd have 12, 13, and then you'd have 25. Look, honestly, I think we should do... If we're going to do a reversal, I think we should do a fifth round
Starting point is 00:50:24 reversal. It just seems, third round just seems too early to me and almost too much of an advantage. Because in Scott Fishbowl, we do do third round reversal, do do. And I always want a late pick. I always want 11 or 12 or something like that because I think it's a huge advantage, personally. But again, we don't need to rewrite fantasy. Fantasy's fine. And then Dan's going to go on his, well, you should do au need to rewrite fantasy. Fantasy is fine.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And then Dan's going to go on his, well, you should do auctions. Snake drafts are so stupid. You should do auctions. Well, not everybody has time for auctions. It's the best part of the fantasy.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Everyone agrees. The draft is the best part of the season. No one disagrees with it ever. So you make time for the best part of the season. It's one day. It's a few hours extra, two hours extra. You get an auctioneer. You know what? Let's one day. It's a few hours extra, two hours extra. You get an auctioneer.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You know what? Let's do a draft at 1 o'clock today. An auction? Yeah. Yeah. I can't. I won't be home. No, no.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But Dan wants to make time for it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, you're right. You know what? I'm just going to leave my son at school. I'm supposed to pick him up early. He'll just sit there at the nurse's office crying. Okay. This is our Apple podcast questions.
Starting point is 00:51:28 It's from Hogson and Johnson. If all press is good press, then Adam's bewildering take that Tom Cruise is not an action star will be good for the show. It is such a bewildering... That's a great way to describe it. Bewildering take. I mean, all the movies he's
Starting point is 00:51:43 done. Just to think that. A think that people keep bringing up stuff. Like we forget like his sci-fi movies even. Oh yeah. Also, by the way, I thought I read something this Jamie, you can correct me on this. I'm sure it's been discussed.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Doesn't he like do his own stunts too? Yeah. And that's not an action person. You Adam, what are you crazy? I mean, I'm just saying, is this Adams?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Well, here's the better question. Is this Adam's worst take ever? And we could go to Heath probably for this because he's done a thread on all of Adam's horrific takes. This would be in the elite tier, I would say. Oh, this is the Mount Rushmore. This is on his Mount Rushmore of his worst takes
Starting point is 00:52:17 ever, yes. Question is, the best part was, I haven't finished the first Mission Impossible. I did finish it. And now what do you think? Is he an action dude? I mean, the thing is, he's not really – he's a different type of action star. Like I said, he's not a tough guy.
Starting point is 00:52:38 This is what I amended it to. He's not a tough guy. He's not Arnold. He's not Stallone. He's a different – in Mission Impossible, think about the scene where he's suspended in midair and he's trying not to touch the floor. He's wearing glasses. I'm sorry, but he's kind of – If you're wearing glasses, you're not an action hero.
Starting point is 00:53:02 He's a computer geek. You know what? I think I am saying that. I think you're not an action hero if you're wearing glasses. You're not an action hero. He's a computer geek. You know what? I think I am saying that. I think you're not an action hero. I think you're not an action hero if you're wearing glasses. Find me the action hero who is wearing glasses. Tom Cruise. Justin Stallone in Tango and Cash.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Tom Cruise. I'm only going to honor Jamie's answer because obviously Tom Cruise is not an action hero. You do realize, though, part of that part of that moron who what did you study in college theater i think he studied theater in college broadcast journalism and what else in theater i knew it i wouldn't say i didn't try in theater you you do know that in theater and acting, in movies, there are things that are done for the theatrical part of it. And part of that was to have the water dripping on his glass, the sweat dripping on the glasses. I mean, all I know is the guy who studied theater as a major in college should really be understanding what an action hero is.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I wouldn't say I studied it. I would say it was my major. I did a second major. Adam was the guy that had to pull the curtain up and down. That's all he did. No, I sold tickets at the box office. I have the ninth pick in the first round of my keeper league. I can keep two players.
Starting point is 00:54:13 My options are. He doubled down on it. I can't believe it. No, he's an action star. I'm just saying he's not a tough guy, and I stand by that. He's a different kind of action star. Do me a favor. After your ice cream social, tough guy to your ice cream
Starting point is 00:54:26 social you put your dentures back in your mouth go watch jack reacher okay fine ice cream social what even is that it's it's a little event for the kids okay okay i'm going it's not like me and my wife are going to the ice cream social but kids kids are going. That's kind of what I thought was going to happen. Okay. All right. I have the ninth pick in the first round of my keeper league, and I can keep two players. I can keep McCaffrey at 109, Gibbs at 204, Taylor at 604, or Dell in round 16.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Pick two. Taylor and McCaffrey for me. Give me the names again. That's Dan, and I'm Adam. Dan. He said McCaffrey at 109. He said Gibbs at 206 or 204. 204.
Starting point is 00:55:15 He said Taylor at 606 or 604. Taylor at 604. Okay, and then Dale at like 12. Around 16. 16. That was close. You only messed up three of those four. Yeah, but they were very close.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Yeah, 12 and 16 is pretty close. What did you say, Jamie? Taylor and Dale. All right, Taylor and McCaffrey for Dan. No McCaffrey at 109. I'm going Taylor and McCaffrey as well. Yeah, yeah. This is BBBaseball111 ranking all of us in terms of our humor,
Starting point is 00:55:44 ranking the funniest people on the show. Let's hear it. This is BBBaseball111 ranking all of us in terms of our humor, ranking the funniest people on the show. Let's hear it. Should I go one to five or five to one? Five to one. Okay. Five, Jamie, sarcastic, down-to-earth humor, keeps Adam in check. Four, Dave, dad humor, self-deprecating, great at accepting jokes on himself.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Three, Adam, every man humor, a bit of an absurdist. I'd say that's true. Dan, two, Dan, nerdy, witty humor, also keeps Adam in check. Yes. Number one, Heath, dry humor, sarcasm specialist, keeps Adam in check. A lot of keep the theme here is everybody needs to keep adam in check yeah so one heath two dan three adam four dave five jamie ridiculous i love those rankings i'll take two any day of course you would i mean you used to sit on a toilet for the show but you are not you are not well done I like that. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:45 And last one is from Brandon Lemon in Salem, Utah. 10-team full PPR Superflex Dynasty. Superflex Dynasty. Who would you rather have? Jalen Hurts, Brees Hall, and pick 307 in this year's rookie draft. Hurts, Brees, Pickle. So for Dan, that would be Josh Allen, B. John Robinson, and pick 401. They're close.
Starting point is 00:57:12 They're close. They're similar. I mean, I said 204 when it was 206, and I said 304. You know, it's basically two picks off. Okay. Team, sorry. Let's do it again for real.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Jalen Hurts, Brees Hall, and pick 307. Or Patrick Mahomes, Ramondre Stevenson, and pick 108. Hurts and Hall. I think I got to go the Hurts way, but I don't feel good with Hurts long-term over Mahomes. But I got to do it anyway. Cause breeze. So, so one Oh eight it's super flex. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So one Oh, it's going to be pretty good in super flex. I mean, it could be hours worthy. I mean, yeah. Bowers worthy. May McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I'd rather have breeze. I'd rather breeze. Oh yeah. You need breeze hall. That's the problem here. I got to say this about our Big Burger League. I thought I was doing a great trade when I traded the 102 for Hertz, essentially, and I gave up a third round pick as well. But now looking back, with Marvin Harrison going one into Superflex,
Starting point is 00:58:15 our rookie draft, I was not expecting. I think I'd rather have Caleb Williams and the third round pick than Jalen Hertz, personally. Where do you guys stand on that? Caleb Williams or Jalen Hertz long-term in a dynasty? I take Hurts. Okay. I don't trust Hurts.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I don't know. Yeah, it was – I don't like what I've seen from Hurts lately. We'll see what happens this year. It's one half of a bad season. We can blame it on the coordinator all we want, but it's one half of a bad season, but he only it on the coordinator all we want, but it's one half of that season, but he only had one really great season too.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, but you also, I mean, they just locked in. Yeah, he's got all the talent in the world around him. There's no denying that. It's just a matter of, is he the guy? He's an aggressive general manager that will continue to build out the offensive line. Didn't look great throwing the football last year. Hopefully it was injury-based and coordinator-based.
Starting point is 00:59:04 We'll see. That's Dan, always hoping people are injured. Okay. What are you talking about? You said hopefully injury. No, hopefully the reason he didn't look good was based on injury. I heard you. Okay, folks, if you want to be tough, don't wear glasses.
Starting point is 00:59:17 That's what we learned today. Have a great weekend, and we'll talk to you on Monday on Fantasy Football.

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