Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag! Why is Bijan RB1? Who are our Favorite Mid-Round Picks? (03/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

We're answering your emails (3:45) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com! Which current mid-round value are we hoping doesn't get pushed up too much before drafts begin? What do we expect from DeVonta Smith in ...2025 (8:00)? Plus we answer keeper and dynasty questions, talk about some NFL Draft prospects (18:30) and get some bold predictions ... We answer your Facebook questions about Ashton Jeanty (32:00), Bijan Robinson (44:00) and more. Could Jeanty be a first round pick in Fantasy? Why is Robinson ranked as RB1 for 2025? ... A quick visit from the Fantasy Cops (56:10)  Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Off to the races, and he stays at his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. What a day in the sports world. Sweet 16 opening day and fantasy mailbag time. What is up? Welcome to the show. We're taking your emails, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That is the letter I. If you have a fantasy cops question, you can send those in. We'll be doing the fantasy cops later today. Just put fantasy cops in the subject line. And we're reading your Facebook comments as well. There's a thread on there about the mail bag. It's really kind of too late for you now,
Starting point is 00:01:18 but join our Facebook group. It's just called fantasy football today. What's going on? Where the heck are you now, Dan? Now I'm recording for a brick wall, just another brick in the wall. Yeah, I was gonna make that joke. Hey, listen, you were late today, so I have to punish you.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I know. You cool with that? All right, so. You gonna make him watch Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, and Tommy DeVito for 17 games? So I found a clip from yesterday's show that I hadn't heard. This is like Dan kissing Jamie's butt,
Starting point is 00:01:48 like to another degree. Well, let's take a look. Let's play the tape. Here we go. What I think about, and Jamie broke this down well, I thought really well was... Like, why did you have to add that really well? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I thought he broke it down really well. What can I say? It was like five different details I was about to bring up like one or two and then I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna be repeating what he said so I can't really even do it. All right. All right. What's up, Jamie? I love my dad on the show. We should have him on one. Yeah, it's great. You feeling good about the game tonight?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Oh, yeah. Geez. F-U-F. Let's go. Am I feeling good about the game? I mean, at this point, one and done's never feel good about, but yes, I feel confident that they're going to play well. I went back and looked at one of my bracket pools and I'm in second place in the first place. Team has a different champion than me. And my champion's Florida, his is Duke. So now we've got a lot riding on your team.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And I love what I saw in the regular season again, but what has been going on so far in the tournament? All right. All right. Let's get to the emails here. This one is from Celeste says, hey, how we Brett and Eric didn't have my Eric cute up there. How we Brett and Eric. How we Brett and Eric. How we Brett and Eric. Howie, Brett and Eric.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Howie Roseman, no. Howie, Brett and Eric don't know. Who's a running back or a wide receiver that you hope doesn't get bumped up too much in the off season so they stay a nice mid round value pick with top 10 or top five upside? Just a running back? Or a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We talked about the 49ers guys yesterday. Those two come to mind. Curious to see what the Raiders do with Jacoby Myers. Trying to think of like a second year player I like that can fit this bill that hasn't got the hype yet. Let's see. Well, Xavier Worthy went in round five. I love Xavier Worthy, so I could definitely
Starting point is 00:03:53 put Xavier Worthy in that and be happy with that. Roma Douinze, I don't think he'll make it. I don't think he deserves to be drafted in the first four rounds. I don't think he'll ever get, I mean maybe he will, but it's kind of a leap of faith. And how about... I would like to say like Trey Benson,
Starting point is 00:04:14 but I'm still think James Connor's gonna have a huge role, so I can't even put him. How about Cortland Sutton? Anybody feel that way about Sutton? I mean there's really no reason why he couldn't have a really big year. Oh, you know, I'll put I got one lad McConkey. I'll put lad McConkey there because I really think that's going to be a mid round pick. What's it going to be top one or two? Third round.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I think he's at worst the third round pick. Yeah. Yeah. Even that. I got one. Jameer Gibbs. I got one. Jameer Gibbs. I know that's the conkey. Alright, what's our answer? I think Xavier Worthy is definitely on this list. How about Christian Kirk? I think Christian Kirk could be really good in that offense. Especially given the situation they have at receiver.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Alright, let's go to our next email. It is from Corey. Long time listener. First time emailer. All right, 12 team. It's called Corey. Yeah, Corey, well, yay.
Starting point is 00:05:08 12 team, 1QB, four player Keeper League. There's no contracts or penalty for keeping players. I'm keeping Justin Jefferson. I need three of the following. Mahomes, Jonathan Taylor, Brice Hall, Bucky Irving, Xavier Worthy, Devante Smith. One QB? One QB.
Starting point is 00:05:29 All right, my home's out. Forever, right? It's the running backs for me. It's Taylor Hall and Irving. Yeah, I think that's your best putt. Wait, wait, you can keep these players forever? Mm-hmm, I think so. I mean, do you really want Taylor Hall and Irving then over Xavier worthy and Devante
Starting point is 00:05:47 Smith? I guess I do. I'm going to guess just the fact that he has this level of talent. Like you're, you're going to be able to, to, to find some guys and, and, and keeping four is a lot, but I'm going to try to win now. And I think those four give you the best chance to win now. The only one you could, I would debate at least, is Breece Hall versus Worthy.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I would take Worthy and maybe Devante Smith over all of them besides maybe Hall or Taylor. I don't, Bucky Irving I would definitely not put in this. A fourth round, a day three running back, I'm not keeping him forever. Oh, I, he's a great talent. He's a great talent. He's my favorite of those three that are left
Starting point is 00:06:27 Why why do you feel that way about bucking? I just think it's a day three running back the track record of those guys having long careers is not long He could be an outlier for sure But he came into the league as someone who people expected would never really be able to handle the full workload we talked yesterday about Tony Pollard and a little bit of concern over like how big can that workload get with a player like that who's never shown it. I feel like Irving might fit into that billing. All right. Let's go to our next. He's a year away though from Rashad White leaving and who knows who comes in, which
Starting point is 00:06:58 could be better than Rashad White, better than Bucky Irving or it could just be, you know, more depth. And then he's the clear cut guy. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Our next email comes from. Oh, it's from Justin. There he is. He's an Eagles fan. And he says, as an Eagles fan, Dallas Goddard is very, very likely to get traded or cut before next season.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Devante Smith has showed in games without Brown or Goddard how good he is. Best season of Smitty's career coming up. We've been saying that for a while. I feel like I've been a huge fan of him in fantasy. I've drafted him on a lot of teams just based on the talent. I just think Jamie made a good point. I shouldn't say that because Adam's going to clip that. A really good point. He made a good, just a regularly good point. I shouldn't say that because Adam's gonna click Really good point. He made a good just a regularly good point yesterday when he said like from a logistic standpoint
Starting point is 00:07:50 The only really way to get him involved is if they change their offense in a big way and that would require Saquon Barkley taking a major step back. I don't really see that happening. Their offensive line is just as dominant They still stoutland So there's just not enough volume for me to ever get excited anymore about Smith being that dominant player. If Goddard is gone, go back to a Monday show, if Goddard is gone or AJ Brown misses time, Smith has top 15 to top 10 upside, mostly if Brown is missing time. Yeah. When Goddard is out, it just opens up a few more targets. They're so concentrated. Like that's what they do. You know, they, they have their top three it just opens up a few more targets. They're so concentrated like that's what they do
Starting point is 00:08:25 You know they they have their top three guys, you know, which we love they don't really involve a lot of other players Even Barkley to that extent, you know, he's not that Of a significant contributor in the passing game that it impacts the other three in such a negative way I think the one thing though that you look at is there is a new offense coordinator So we'll see how that changes things if at all, but I doubt it. I just think you're looking at Devontae Smith as a very good number three receiver that has the chance to pop certain weeks and explode on others when anybody's missing. So Goddard is gone.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You know, and Dave brought this up. This is the, you know, I'm assuming the genesis of this email is that, you know, Dave said that if Goddard leaves, I just think that if they were going to make that type of move, they would have done so already. I know, you know, June 1st cut all those things. But typically when you're getting a player of that magnitude on the way out, they're designated as opposed to June 1st cut already. So it'd be a surprise if they cut him at this point.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It's it looks to me like if they cut him, they have to pay his full salary, which is 11 million, almost his full salary. He'd have a dead cap hit of $11 million. He's an unrestricted free agent next year. So this is the last year of his contract. Devontae Smith. I mean, if you look at the games without Dallas Goddard, you don't like the targets. There's not that many, but you love the production. He has, it doesn't look like he scored a touchdown in any game that both Brown and Goddard played this year except the Super Bowl. But he scored eight touchdowns and those were all in games that either Brown or Goddard
Starting point is 00:09:55 missed and most of them were games that Goddard missed. Looks like seven of his eight touchdowns came in games without Dallas Goddard including week six when Goddard barely played. So it is pretty crazy but it's like it's still not a lot of targets, but it's great production. I think if you play out the Eagle season and you expect Barclay to still be excellent, because I don't know if he's going to be dominant like he was. Yeah. Because the touches are insane. They're just a lot to deal with. And that's the concern.
Starting point is 00:10:25 He's not old old, but he's old for that position. And so coming off all that work, the track record of 2000 yard rushers, and now they may have to throw the ball a little bit more if Barkley misses time. What does that mean for all these pass catchers? So there's a upside play here with Smith because again, if those guys miss miss time then he's clearly been much better. So he's he's a he's a great gamble but I think if you reach for him which we were meant to mean two years ago we were saying he was second round pick that was on us you know to the hope that he was going to take a step forward and just didn't. So I think you know you're talking about around five ish round-ish receiver, that's perfect.
Starting point is 00:11:07 That's where I would have him too. I think that's where the ceiling caps out at. Yeah, so what was it for Smith? So it was the end of the, it was 2022 was his best year, right? And he came on really strong and he had basically as many or more targets as AJ Brown in the last half of the season.
Starting point is 00:11:24 They went on a Super Bowl run that year. And then what happened in 2023? Well, just AJ Brown just got so many targets. They didn't throw to Devante Smith. It was a volume. Wasn't really there overall for the pass game though, either. Never. Like a lot of Smith's big games have come on big plays
Starting point is 00:11:43 and touchdowns. Yeah. Why he's so good. All right. Here's one from Sean. Sean has four bold predictions. He wants a spot in the 2026 podcast league if he's right on all four of them.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Wow. I already told them the answer to that is no, but I'd be pretty impressed. I'd be pretty impressed. Maybe I'd let him share a team or something. Bold prediction. RB1 will be Christian McCaffrey. Love that wide receiver one will be CD Lamb.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I don't think that's so bold, but one will be Jayden Daniels. Again, not so bold, but OK. And tight end one will be Travis Kelsey. Again, not even that bold, but a little older than the others. That's very bold. This one old, but to the extent of like, it's probably not happening anymore. But it's a guy who was like tight end one for five or six years. Yeah, but it's still I don't really find these to be bold predictions.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah. The running back and running back and tight end ones are somewhat like the five. The bold prediction is like this is crazy. Well, he basically Jayden Daniels, Ricky Pearsoles, Y1. That's a bold prediction. He picked Jayden Daniels as QB one. and then the other three guys were all number one at their position in 2023. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Kelsey may not have been overall, but he was number one at tight end last two years ago. I think he was per game. I don't think he was overall. Maybe it was per game. But Thomas is on fire today. What's Thomas saying? You can't repeat it. Let's check.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Let's check the private chat here. Oh, come on. That's messed up. Yeah, he was. Kelsey was tight at one per game. The least bold of all these was Jaden Daniels. This could be one. What's the least bold of these?
Starting point is 00:13:20 I would say it's CD. No, it's lamb. It's lamb. It's ridiculous to even say that's bold. So so so Dan, you have some stories for us. You said you had some travel stories. Yeah, let's warm it up a little bit. I guess. Oh, all right. I'm about to. That's what I was born to do. We'll take a break. Punishment that's coming. No, you said you had stories. I got some great stories. I got some travel stories. These stories. That's a great stories for you. I will be right back. We'll take a break. We got an email from Joe. We got your Facebook comments. We may or may not have story time with Dan.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We'll be right back. Let's try to make predictions that are like slightly less bold than what Sean made, but still not bold at all. Well, a Q wide receiver one Justin Jefferson, QB one. My homes, Patrick homes, bro, bro. Okay. RB one Derek Henry. And I'm on a diva. That's pretty bold. tight end one. Yeah, it's gonna be Porter Laporta. Bowers. I'll take Josh Allen as my QB one.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Who had ever seen that coming? It's impossible to predict. RB one, I'll go Christian McCaffrey. I'll just copy that one. Wide receiver Malik neighbors. It's so bold. It's such a bold pick. And tight end.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Give me Sam Laporta. By the way, I asked Dan, I sent an email or no. Thomas said to me, we're going to do Dan's favorite players on Wednesday show. And I said to him, get your Malik neighbors thumbnail ready. And I said that email did. Who are some of your favorites? And sure enough, Malik neighbors was out there. We didn't talk about it, but how could you not like him this year? I liked him a lot more of when I sent you that email.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Russell was about to see. I still think Russell would be good for him, too. All right. Let's go to Joe's email here. Nervous about this trade because my dynasty team stinks. My only wide receivers are Higgins, DJ Moore and Tyler Lockett. My quarterbacks are J.J. McCarthy, Goff and Gino. Do I trade McCarthy and Lockett, which would leave him with Goff and Gino. Do I trade McCarthy and Lockett, which would leave him with Goff and Gino,
Starting point is 00:15:28 for Olavi, Devante Smith, Kirk, yes, Kirk Cousins and pick 403. Yeah, you do this trade. You do this trade. Easily. Yeah, for sure. This is it. You'll be a little light at QB,
Starting point is 00:15:43 but it's not to an extent. You can get through the years and you're going to get too much talent from Olavi and Devante. Oh, wait. I had an email from Eric. I don't know where it went. It just says from Eric in here and then there's no email. I think this one is from John. I have picks 107 and 110 in a rookie only draft.
Starting point is 00:16:03 One QB league. Who are some players you might think I would be taking at these spots? 107 and 110. I guess you gotta assume at this point, Jente and Hampton are gone. Ted is gone. And then this is where the guessing game comes in
Starting point is 00:16:21 and where these guys are gonna end up being slotted on their respective NFL teams. Right? Yeah. This is a question that we could give you some names of prospects that we have high and I can list off players I like, but this is a year specifically where when there's 14 deep at running back that could all start next year or all play a big role, it's going to depend on where they land in the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It's going to change so much of the dynasty ranking. So I don't want to, and this is a really deep running back class. There are receivers that you could probably throw in here like draft, it's gonna change so much of the dynasty ranking, so I don't wanna, and this is a really deep running back class. There are receivers that you could probably throw in here, like Golden, Matthew Golden from Texas might be in the mix there. I don't know if he goes a little higher, but might be around that range. Like there are receivers to put out there.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, the kid from Iowa State, Higgins, and even the other guy from Iowa State, one Mount Blanken on his name, the smaller kid. But look, wait for the draft. It'll have to play out that way, and there's gonna be some interesting running back situations after this. I think the Bengals specifically
Starting point is 00:17:11 are gonna be a very interesting situation. I think they're definitely drafting running back in rounds two, three, or four, and I think it'll be two or three. Tyler Warren, if he's at seven. Tied up. I don't know, I kinda like Loveland more. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:24 We'll see. All right. Elijah Royale is going to be a beast. You think so? Yes. It'll take the right team to figure out where to, how to play in an NFL system. But I do think there's upside there and I'm not out on Restrepo either, despite the 40 time. So Restrepo, yes. There are four. I mean, people are thinking about Restrepo being a second round pick in
Starting point is 00:17:45 the NFL draft. That blows my mind. No, no. I had it before the 40. What's that? He might have been before the 40. Well, he said he heard his hamstring and he's been running four. So he ran like a four eight something, right?
Starting point is 00:17:56 Right, four eight seven. He said he was running four or five threes tested before the injury. He's not a four eight guy. That's ridiculous. That's super slow. I don't think he's a four eight. I don't think he's a four or five either. I think he's probably a he's a strep slow. There are four hurricanes prospects.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Two of them I'm very much in on two of them. I'm not so in on and ward and and tight end Elijah Arroyo. I love a Restrepo. I just think you only gave me Martinez. I love you, Martina. No, I maybe I'm missing something because everyone else loves him, but he was so like unimpactful last year.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I mean, some big highlight plays that you're going to see. But for the most part, like just they didn't really have that good of a run game, honestly. It was disappointing. He's like, yeah, I don't know. On paper, it was good. But no, I'm not a big Damian Martinez fan. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Here's a question from Jake. Happy opening day. I'm just wondering how much you still track baseball if you still play fantasy or are into it or do any of the other guys play fantasy sports besides football? And so if you're new to the show, I used to host the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast
Starting point is 00:18:56 until about six years ago, I think. At that point- No, it hasn't been that long. What's that? Hasn't been that long. Probably longer. I think it has been that long. It's been? It hasn't been that long. Probably longer. I think it has been that long. It's been a long time.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Six years since you hosted it? Since I joined the fantasy team, Adam was never part of fantasy baseball today. And that was three years ago, four years ago at this point. That seems more realistic. Six years? I'm gonna ask Frank.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm gonna text Frank Stanful and see how long he's been hosting it. Maybe five years? I don't think Frank's been here that long. Did anyone host it after you, after you between Frank or was it just Frank? It was actually Frank's five year anniversary with the company a couple days ago, so.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Okay, five years. You were still hosting it with Frank though. No, not really. Was I? I don't think I was. I just know at some point Heath was on the show, which I still find, every time I hear them talk about that,
Starting point is 00:19:45 I always find that interesting. Oh dude, me and Heath used to go at it on that show. Oh, I love that. It was regrettable. Over what? Over fantasy, over players, you know? That's awesome. I have a lot of Heath's stats,
Starting point is 00:19:59 so he probably argued with them. Yeah, they both are big, they're stats guys. One has, you know, one uses actual data, Heath, the other just azers jumped up the stats to make it look in one way. Listen, I'm only gonna count his home runs in these ballpark. Yeah, you take out all the Yankee Stadium home runs, you know, his walk. So we take out his walks. So I, I, I think at that point, I was thinking about this this morning, when I read this question, I was thinking about this this morning when I read this question, I probably could have named like 80%
Starting point is 00:20:27 of active baseball players. It's basically only middle relievers that I didn't know. I don't know if I can name 15% now. We did our fantasy baseball draft yesterday because I was so intent on not doing it and Jamie dragged me into it again. And I mean, like, there's so many guys like, who is that? Who is that? These guys were picking in the fifth round.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Like who the hell are you? Who is that? Not only did I drag him into it, he's the first one to respond to the question of, Hey, do you guys want to raise the entry fee? Oh yeah, sure. Well, we're splitting it. So, you know, what is it? $25 extra, whatever, you know. I mean, I'm fine with it, but it's just funny. Like you don't want to do it, but you're the first one to respond. Yeah, sure. Let's spend more money. All right. So Jamie,25 extra, whatever, you know? I mean, I'm fine with it, but it's just funny. Like you don't want to do it, but you're the first one to respond. Yeah, sure. Let's spend more money.
Starting point is 00:21:07 All right. So Jamie, how many fantasy sports do you play? Sports do I play? Fantasy sports, fantasy. Three, basketball, baseball, and football. Oh, you play basketball. Dan? I just do baseball and football. Okay. Do you like fantasy baseball?
Starting point is 00:21:20 You're not very good at fantasy baseball. A, I'm not very good at fantasy baseball because fantasy baseball requires an insane not very good at fantasy baseball. A I'm not very good at fantasy baseball, because fantasy baseball requires an insane amount of attention and time. And then also every single time, even if I'm doing well in a fantasy baseball season, the minute training camp rolls around, I'm just totally inactive. And that's like the most important time of the year to be active in that. So I'm
Starting point is 00:21:39 horrible. That's the beauty of this league, which actually Adam created, it's actually named after Adam, is we ended so early. So I didn't create the league, I took over the league. And then I changed the dates to have the playoffs to the season ends at the beginning of September. That's a great way to play fantasy baseball. Even then I'm already checked out because I'm checked out by August. Alright, question from, oh, this one might be from Eric.
Starting point is 00:22:07 First year dynasty league after the draft, we changed to Superflex. Is Spencer Rattler, is Spencer Rattler worth trading to get a third in this year's draft? So is Spencer Rattler worth trading for a third round pick? And is Jackson Dart worth drafting at 1.6? First question, yes. I think he is worth trading.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I don't really see a future for him. In your super flex league, On the Saints is a starter anywhere. Even if he is, he doesn't really have tools to be that much of a fancy difference maker. I get rid of him now for a third before you have to cut him. As far as the second question goes, no, I do not think Jackson Dart is worth a 106 even in a Super Flex League. To be fair, I had similar answer to the Panics question last year. I think we might think differently this year about what Michael Panics is worth given that job is now handed to him. That timeline was kind of fast forwarded.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So I don't want to rule it out just yet. I kind of have to see where Jackson Dart lands and what timeline I project for him. But he doesn't, for for me look like a quarterback. I would really invest a lot of capital in the super flex league. I don't think you want to draft him at 106. There's just too much talent at other spots to invest in a player like that. But at 206, depending on if that's your next pick and the Steelers draft him or the Giants draft him or a team that has
Starting point is 00:23:25 a veteran that's not going to be there long term and you have a very similar situation to Pennix where again the timeline was accelerated but you know you knew you have to wait a little bit maybe a year maybe half a year um then then sure I I'm sort of torn on the on the rattler question simply because this could be a we're shutting down their car again because we only pay his injury guarantees and he sees some time especially if Kellen Moore likes what he sees there because this is going to be a team that probably is not very good by the middle of the season you know similar to last year just because they're still you know trying to rebuild and get out of all the cap hell that they were in so you you can make that deal now. But if you
Starting point is 00:24:06 need somebody that could just maybe get a few starts, like that could be the type of guy that like Mason Rudolph, you threw a couple of games if he, you know, gets an opportunity to play. So not great, but can still get you some production. So just just make sure you're shopping around a little bit. Because Super Flex League quarterback, sometimes people get a little crazy for it, You might get a little bit better, but it's not a bad deal.
Starting point is 00:24:27 All right, this is from Scott. Listen to a recent Dynasty FFT episode in which the gang warned of the dangers of Tyrone Tracy Jr. and I was sold. However, behind Tracy, I'm pretty thin at running back. I have Breece Hall, Trey Benson, and Isaac Guarendo. Of the three that I just mentioned, is Hall the only one worth keeping in PPR.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So, Breece Hall, Trey Benson, Garendo. I thought it was Dynasty. Me too. I don't know. I don't know the keeping aspect. Oh, maybe he means instead of trading. And I like the idea of trying to trade running backs when you can in Dynasty, especially when they have a high scene, when they're, you know, have high value. That's how I play dynasty. With that said, you probably don't want to leave yourself too thin at there and just have Breeze Hall there. So I would probably
Starting point is 00:25:12 make a play and hang on to one of them. So if you're looking to win now, you hang on to Tracy and you get rid of a Benson type maybe and see what the value you can get back for that. Though I would probably keep them both. I don't, look, I understand the drawbacks with Tracy, but to me, at least he's on a team where the coach has shown over time that he is mostly running a one-back system. With Barkley, he did that, and for the most part with Tracy, he did that last year,
Starting point is 00:25:36 the exception of when he fumbled a little bit and a little bit down the stretch. So I like, if you wanna talk about scary situations, I don't really see why Chase Brown's situation is less scary than Shiron Tracy's from a playing time standpoint, personally. The man has never, Chase Brown. It's a big one for me.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I think Chase Brown, I think the Chase Brown stuff is gonna get really interesting this off season. Oh, if they add other players. They're gonna go back. They wanted to last year, until Moss got hurt, that was the plan. Yeah, but then he played so well. Tracy in his last 13 games, Tracy was RB 16 per game.
Starting point is 00:26:13 He was, you know, okay. He was only on pace. He was only on pace for 235 carries. I'm surprised he was 16th per game. 44 catches and eight touchdowns. That's feels like a typo. I'm gonna have to double check on that. So if it's not a dynasty league, then yes,
Starting point is 00:26:32 you should be trying to, you should be keeping Tracy and not keeping the other two guys. If it's a dynasty league and you're trying to trade these guys, the first place to go is to the running backs that you have as the starters ahead of them. So the James Connor manager might want Trey Benson, the McCaffrey manager might want Garendo. There's clear paths to both those guys getting immense work because they're behind older injury-prone guys that at least have shown in their history that they miss time at points
Starting point is 00:27:03 during the season as McCaffrey showed us last year, you know, pulling, playing four games. So you could get amazing production out of Gerendo in that offense as we've seen. And Benson has the sim has a similar path if Connor does get hurt at any point during the season. But those two managers, the Connor manager and the McCaffrey manager may overpay for those guys if they're, you know, in a dynasty, we looking to sort of handcuff those guys. So if you are trying to trade them and get the most value, that's the best place to look. But I think if it's a nice thing, I'm going to hold on to these guys, because you may
Starting point is 00:27:31 have RB one in San Francisco, which we saw Garendo was pretty good last year. And Benson may get that opportunity this season. Okay, he was RB 20 per game in his last 13 games, Tyrone Tracy. There's a YouTube poll up and it says, who wins the tennis match part two? Oh my God. This is embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:27:51 This is embarrassing, Adam. I mean, look, for your sake, I guess I'll be nice here just to be a good person. But dude, Jamie, when somebody loses 6-2-6-0 in something, is it even worth considering and putting up to a poll who's gonna win the next time? It wasn't like a close loss. This is like a 42-7 blowout
Starting point is 00:28:13 where I'm benching starters by the fourth quarter. So. You know, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, let me take, Oregon beat Ohio State in the regular season, right? True. And then Ohio State beat the absolute crap out of them in the playoffs. You have the rules reversed, though, it'd have to be a house they beat the crap out of them. And then it was close. All right. But you know,
Starting point is 00:28:33 bottom line is team one got blown out once and won the other one. I mean, look, the fair the best thing for you is that I literally haven't picked up a racket since we played. Right. And I had a tennis I took a tennis lesson two days ago. So I will go into it. I will go into that match. But again, as the match gets closer, Adam, I'm going to I'm going to try to play a little tennis.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Well, that's the thing. You'll build it. This is what you did last year. You build it as I will not pick up a racket until I ended up only playing what two or three times. Right. I end up playing scared and you played. That's fine. You know what, bring it on. I think you should come, I think we should play now. I don't even know why we should wait for that.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I'll play you now. I don't even need to hit a little. I think we should have an exhibition now. Not worried about it. So I can see how, no, you're gonna beat me. I voted for you. Adam, I played you with a cracked racket. I voted for you.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I literally had a crack down. No, you didn't, you demoed a racket. I showed you that. You demoed a racket. No, I played a cracked racket. I played that. Oh, it doesn't matter. I didn't wanna play the demo. I didn't feel comfortable with the demo.
Starting point is 00:29:24 All right, you know know, come on over. We'll play, we'll get a court. We'll see where I'm at. I think I'm gonna do better. I think, listen, you gotta go to him. He's the winner. I'll go to you. Yeah, the home and home, the home and home.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah, but I live near the diner. I know, I like that diner way too much. I gotta go back. Who had the terrible order? Was it Dan or was it you? No, my order was amazing. It was just this gluttonous and really disgusting from a lot of standpoints, but amazing tasting. Adams was like, can I get some chicken steamed with brown rice and some broccoli and whole
Starting point is 00:29:54 the sauce? No, I got chicken teriyaki bowl. I always get that without the teriyaki and just no, come on. All right. This is from Tom. Let's go to our Facebook questions. Tom has a good question on Facebook. If Ashton Gentey goes to Las Vegas, where are we taking him in redraft leagues?
Starting point is 00:30:11 Round two. Vegas. First round capital. Low line, not great, but not terrible. Gino's gonna help that offense. I'm good with round two. I could honestly be talked into back end of round one. I get really hyped on players like that his talent is is through the roof. I like him better as a prospect and Bijon even not as
Starting point is 00:30:32 explosive and not as elusive but a different kind of back that I think works a little bit better gets a little lower pad level and really good through contact. I would say, I'm gonna give you guys some running backs who were drafted as top 10 picks. Yeah. B. John Robinson, pretty big bust in fantasy. We took him where the first year, around six overall, I think, seven overall. Probably somewhere like that.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I think it was in that range. Fornette was at one point. Fornette, hold on, I have to sneeze. Talk real quick, say something about Leonard Fornette. Leonard Fornette. He was bad as a rookie. Took, he was bad as a rookie. Don't remember where he quick. Say something about Leonard Fournette. Leonard Fournette. He was bad as a rookie. Took, he was bad as a rookie. Don't remember where he was.
Starting point is 00:31:08 No, he was not actually. Oh no. Leonard Fournette. Leonard Fournette averaged 17.7 PPR fantasy points per game. Wow. Which made him RB8 per game as a rookie, but he was only two tenths of a point behind Melvin Gordon who was RB5.
Starting point is 00:31:23 So he was RB5 per game and non PPR. He was RB eight per game and full PPR, but very, very close to RB five per game. He wasn't that good of a player, only averaged 3.9 yards per carry, but he averaged over 23 touches per game. He scored 10 touchdowns in 13 games. I do remember this.
Starting point is 00:31:38 So he, I would say it was, you know, probably second round value. Is he- McCaffrey was bad as a rookie. McCaffrey was bad as a rookie, yes. was, you know, probably second round value. Is Zeke- McCaffrey was bad as a rookie. McCaffrey was bad as a rookie, yeah. He caught a lot of balls, but he was in a timeshare. Barclay was amazing as a rookie. The two guys who were amazing-
Starting point is 00:31:53 Barclay was record breaking. The two guys who were amazing were Barclay and Zeke. Okay. Zeke scored 16 touchdowns in 15 games. He's going over that track record that wasn't so bad. No, and then they had like, honestly, Najee Harris was very good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Because he had so much work. He wasn't top 10, but yeah. 74, he was top 10. He was top 10. Overall, Najee Harris was top four. God. He was the number three running back. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:32:18 sorry, I meant top 10 in the NFL draft, sorry. Oh, oh no. Yeah, yeah, I thought we were talking top 10 NFL draft running back. We were, we were. Top 10 is Z. So you have Barkley, Zeke, who are absolute studs. Oh, no. Yeah, I thought we were talking top 10 NFL draft running back. We were. We were fantasy. So you have Barkley, Zeke, who are absolute studs. You had Fournette and oh, there's one more for now.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Who was who's pretty good. Todd Gurley. Oh, so Todd Gurley. This, by the way, is an ACL example that I never think of. Maybe the best one. He tore his ACL in November in college, missed the first two games, had seven touches in week three. From weeks four through 16 of his rookie year, Todd Gurley averaged 4.9 yards per carry, was on pace for 316
Starting point is 00:33:01 carries 1554 yards 14 touchdowns, plus 28 catches, 17.3 PPR fantasy points per game. Studley. And yeah, he's a very good example too. And that was coming off a torn ACL. So the path to being, I'd say, a top eight running back is very clear for Gentie. Wouldn't surprise any of us if he's top five, I would say.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And that's just of the running backs who were drafted inside the top 10. I think once you get outside of it, it gets a little stickier. Like remember Clyde Edwards, Hilaire was a mega fantasy boss. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Like Rashad Penny and yeah. All right. So so you say second round, but that's a little bit vague. Like would you take AJ Brown or or Ashton Gentie on the Raiders? I think I'm taking Gentie. I might be going all the way into round one for him. Yeah I was thinking like top 15. So like right. Yeah. And then we'll do one more question here before we take a break. At what point this from Mike Lawrence at what point do we value NFL on field production more than draft capital?
Starting point is 00:34:03 Does Bucky Irving's round for draft capital still matter? Does Isaiah Pacheco's seventh round draft capital still matter? What's the point where draft capital becomes irrelevant? So he has a good theory with these guys, you know, in terms of mostly the the late round guys, not necessarily the day two running backs, but the late round guys. So the the undrafted rookie free agents as well. So you think about James Robinson and the year he had in Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:34:28 trying to get the other examples that we've talked about. Pacheco has definitely won. There's been some more negative ones though. So Heath's theory is when they change coaches, they're in trouble. Damian Pierce. Damian Pierce, another one. The, the coaching staff, when it stays the same, those guys tend to perform a little bit better
Starting point is 00:34:50 or have a little bit more success. So I think when you look at it, you know, in the case of the two from last year, Bucky Irving got a new offense coordinator, but it's guys on staff. So I think he's fine. Tracy, same coach. I think he's fine. You know, the, the two that were successful that weren't high draft picks, but Chacko sort of proving this out, you know, I mean, he got hurt last year, but before his injury, he was on pace for such a
Starting point is 00:35:14 monstrous season. Right. And based on their moves this off season, he's still positioned to be the lead guy. You know, is, is he going to dominate touches? You know, when there's so many mouths to feed now? That's the question. But I think in the case of Bucky Irving, this is why I'm still encouraged by him is that this is the same head coach and guy in the building replacing Liam Cohen. So I think he still has the opportunity to be the main guy there. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, Bucky Irving, day three pick, Chase Brown, day three pick, I think he still has the opportunity to be the main guy there. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, Bucky Irving, day three pick, Chase Brown, day three pick.
Starting point is 00:35:49 But we talked about this with Kyron Williams. Right. And honestly, like, Kyron has really benefited. He's a good player, but he's benefited a lot from having no competition. Did he have a great year last year? I mean, as a rusher, what did he average? Four yards per carry? He's not like an explosive player. And I think if he were, he would have been picked higher in the draft.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I've always been a little dubious of Kyron Williams because he was drafted as a third down back. He was supposed to be the best third down back in the class. Then he got thrust into this big role, did really well with it against an extremely easy schedule in 2023. In 2024, he was good. I think he's a very good running back at like,
Starting point is 00:36:24 getting five, six yards or, he doesn good. I think he's a very good running back at like, you know, getting five, six yards or, you know, he doesn't have a lot of negative plays. He almost never breaks off long runs and he's in a great offense and gets every touch. But yeah, I mean, I don't think he's the most talented running back. And that still does matter a little bit to me. Like, if Bijan Robinson were on the Rams, he'd be hands down, it wouldn't even be a question, he'd be the number one. He'd be Tiger Lee.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah, exactly. One thing to look at for longevity as far as these day three picks goes is something like Kyron's case. Well, he's one of the best pass protecting running backs in the NFL. So what does that mean? It means they're not gonna take him off the field
Starting point is 00:37:01 and you're gonna get the volume you need. So for some of these guys, that's what I would at or you know in some systems like the bangles for example They don't like Brown runs a lot of routes like they don't use him as much in that role So it just kind of depends on the system But if they can pass protect they're on the field for all three down They can they proven they can be on the field for all three downs I have a little more confidence in them long term Does it matter for Bucky Irving? I mean should we be thinking about that about that for considering him in the second round? Sometimes he makes it into the third round. I mean, he was
Starting point is 00:37:28 Bucky Irving was so good. And when you look at a guy like Pierce, right, it wasn't even close. Damien Pierce had a nice rookie season. Bucky Irving's was so much better than Damien Pierce's. So I don't really care that he was a fourth round pick. So I think that this season is gonna tell us how the NFL is viewing the position again. You know, there's many mocks and I'll bring up one on our site. You know, I obviously talk about Pete Prisco a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:57 He is the most anti-running back person you will find in the world. And he has two running backs mocked in his first round when he usually mocks anyone for taking a running back in the first round. So he's he's he's got the Raiders and he's got Hampton going to the Broncos. I believe 21 to start and that's just the top of the class. Those those two if they get drafted in round one tells you that the the year that we just saw for free agent running backs and that at, you know, I don't want to say
Starting point is 00:38:25 the rookie class because it was disappointing largely, but the free agent running backs and what they were able to accomplish. And now that this wave of, you know, these awesome players, you know, that are starting to get phased out, you know, Kamara 30, Henry 31, you know, Barclay 28, 29 McCaffrey 28, 29, you know, that these teams are starting to, you know, look at do they have to sort of restock their their cupboard a little bit in terms of that position. And this class has so many talented players. So going back to that earlier question about 106 or 107 and 110, like, you know, taking, you know, Jackson Dart there or whatever the question I'm sorry, the question was, which which players
Starting point is 00:39:04 will be available, like the two Ohio State guys You know the the Iowa running back, you know, the there's there's gonna be so many op ops opportunities for these players to land in spots that could be great and like even Why am I blanking on the kid Johnson what's first? Like after our after our show yesterday you know the Titans had a visit with Caleb Johnson like we're just sitting here saying Tony Pollard was in a great spot well right if they draft something like that a that bad for Pollard b bad for him yeah you know and and this is the thing that we're gonna have to sort of you know
Starting point is 00:39:39 parse through of who ended up in some really crappy situations early you know to tie in Kyron Williams we thought Blake Corum okay maybe early, you know, to tie in Kyron Williams. We thought Blake Corum, okay, maybe this is the guy that's going to challenge Kyron Williams after he didn't get challenged in 2023. Never happened. Trey Benson, we thought, okay, this is the second best running back in this class behind Jonathan Brooks, by the way, didn't get an opportunity, you know, because James Conner stayed healthy.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So there's going to be situations that one of these, two of these, five of these, there's going to be situations that one of these two of these five of these there's so many good ones end up in Time shares where okay injury happens their studs, right? You're gonna happen, you know Ravens may job somebody. Okay, you know me Derek Henry 31 years old he may not yeah season guy may never see the field because Henry's just so good All right. Let's take a break and we got a question about who should be RB one Why is Bijon ranked ahead of Saquon and Gibbs in most early rankings? It's a good question from Daniel. We'll get to that after this on Fantasy Football today. All right, so we're back here.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Thanks everybody for your questions. Thanks for joining our Facebook group. Please do that. Also, if you're watching on YouTube, feel free to hit that like button or subscribe or both. All right, so Daniel says, how is Bijan ranked above Saquon and Gibbs on most early rankings? And I'm gonna tell you this, if Bijan Robinson ends up as RB1 in average draft position,
Starting point is 00:40:54 let me see the best way to phrase this, he will have scored the average, he will have averaged the fewest PPR fantasy points per game in the previous year for RB1 and ADP in at least eight years. In other words, most of the time these guys are coming off bigger, better seasons than the 19.9 PPR fantasy points that Bijan averaged last year. But I have him as RB1.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I know Jamie does, Dan, do you? I do not have him as RB1. All right, does. Dan, do you? I do not have him as RB one. All right. Jamie, why do you have Bijan as RB one? Who was the previous guy? Was it Jonathan Taylor? Actually, it was Christian McCaffrey in 2023, averaged 20.6 fantasy points per game. And then he was the number one pick in 2024. I'm trying to remember. So that was like the year he got traded, right? He got traded, yes. Yeah, so he didn't have his incredible year in 2023,
Starting point is 00:41:53 but he was RB one in ADP in 2024. And he rewarded that with a huge season. So for me, I split up. You're doing 2022, 2023. Oh, sorry, go ahead. Oh, okay. doing 2022, 2023. Oh, sorry, go ahead. Oh, oh, oh. Yeah, okay. In 2020, right, okay. In 2022, McCaffrey averaged 20.6 fantasy points per game.
Starting point is 00:42:11 He was then RB1 in ADP in 2023. And he rewarded fantasy managers with a huge year. Yes, I know what you're saying, sorry. No, I'm not. V-John season, you guys split up in two parts. The first half of the season, he was looking like not a bust, but not obviously the elite level talent that we were hoping for. And then all of a sudden the Falcons realized we have this, you know, amazing talent.
Starting point is 00:42:36 We got to give him more work and his workload increased. His touchdowns increased. Everything was just better for him. And I don't have the numbers in front of me. But you know, he was basically RB one or in the conversation for that point of the season on. That's the player I'm expecting to see. So I have the numbers. You want the numbers? Yes, please. All right. First five games for Bijan. He was the number 24 running back per game. Last 12 games, he was the number one running back per game. He was on pace for 336 carries and 61 catches. Big shift was that Atlanta in those first five games
Starting point is 00:43:12 they were 28th in run rate. In their last 12 games they were fourth in run rate. The problem is he still in that stretch he only had about 68% of the team's carries. That's still a pretty low number. Algier, like for example, in those last 12 games, when Bijan's on pace for 336 carries, Algiers on pace for 147. So I just somehow doubt they're going to be able to run the ball that much. I mean, they ran a lot of plays last year. So if that comes, if they don't run the ball as much and he's still getting 68% of the
Starting point is 00:43:50 carries, that's not enough. What I'm hoping for is less out here and the other year is good, but come on, like less out here. We don't need that. Give him 75% of the running back carriers like, like Barkley had. But yeah, he was the number one running back in those last 12 games. And by the way, Jamie, Dan, he had in his first 28 games of his career, Bijon Robinson had three games with 20 or more carries.
Starting point is 00:44:15 In his last six games, he had 22 or more carries five times. So that's what you're hoping carries over. I think it will. You know, again, you're talking about a guy that's well in his prime, you know, an elite level talent, elite level prospect. I just expect that to continue. So I actually have Gibbs too in Berkeley three, which I know is probably low compared to most. I think a lot of people are going to have Berkeley one and I get it, you know, just
Starting point is 00:44:39 the season that he had the offensive line, everything is, is set up for him to hopefully replicate it to some degree. I just look again, age track record of the workload plus 2000 yard rushers like it just historically is not great for him. Um, which is why I'm concerned about Barclay. So he'll, he'll probably be somebody like, I mean, I do so many leagues, I try to take as many players possible just to have some shares of everyone, but, uh, he will not be in a lot of my fancy teams. So who's RB one for you, Dan? It's Barkley.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I look at it like some of those touchdowns that went to Hertz could easily go to Barkley and that could kind of make up for what we might lack in efficiency, touches, things of that nature. It's still everything that Jamie said. Everything's there. And I understand historically it's a bet that you might not want to make but I'm not huge on those historic bets I mean last year we could apply that logic for Derek Henry and for Barkley and it really backs up I don't know what's up to you, but Eric Henry
Starting point is 00:45:33 A player was much higher on and I just think when you have outlier freaks like Barkley and Henry Who there is not gonna be many athletes like him in the next 10 years in the 10 years before this I'm willing to bet on an outlier. But where I really break consensus is my RB too. Oh, who is it? It's Christian McCaffrey. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, we're just one year removed
Starting point is 00:45:54 from McCaffrey being an absolute cheat code in fantasy. And I know he's got injured outside of the injury and I guess the age, I can't really see any reason why he wouldn't do it again. And he won't get injured at any time in the NFL. I went to his player page the other day. I didn't realize maybe I didn't. I just forgot.
Starting point is 00:46:10 It's probably I forget everything. Christian McCaffrey said he may have been able to play if they had made the playoffs. Yeah, I saw that too. And it's like, I think we're treating him a little unfairly. I think he's probably fine. I mean, he's older and obviously, but Kyle Shanahan shown zero sign when McCaffrey plays of trying to limit his workload or work in other backs or have a multi back system. He understands that when the Caffrey is in the lineup, he has to have him on the field because of the advantage it gives them in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And from a number standpoint, from next zone standpoint, so I think that will continue until he gets hurt or if he gets hurt. And I'm just not as convinced as others that we can predict injuries and that injuries are these things that we can just bank on and lean on. I think the NFL draft will be telling given this class, they always draft a running back. It's very funny how the conversations must go between Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch where I mean this guy, Tyrion Davis Price, John, we got to get him. He's going to be an absolute stud. Trey Sermon, you have no idea what Trey Sermon will do for us.
Starting point is 00:47:12 We have to go get him. It's like- He trades up for them a lot too. Yeah. I mean, you know, there's, there's a significant track record here, but they did just get rid of a running back who was very successful for them last year. So barring a huge investment, knowing that McCaffrey at his age, what happens to them last year, you know, maybe getting and look, Garendo is not young or averse to injuries as himself.
Starting point is 00:47:34 There's there's a situation here where we could be looking at the next 49 years guy coming into this class. And, you know, I'm pretty sure they have a lot of compensatory picks little guys they lost. So they could they could throw some draft capital at that position. May take two guys. Comment from the chat, Dan's house is so nice, LOL. I wish I lived in this house. That's a very nice fake background. Wanna hear a funny story real quick?
Starting point is 00:47:57 I think it's pretty funny. Jamie, you might find it funnier since you've met my dad, who's like a little grumpy sometimes. There's this group texts of me, my brother, my sister, my mom, my dad, and my brother's wife. And they sent these pictures of my niece who's like two years old at soccer practice at school. And everybody's like, oh, she's so cute.
Starting point is 00:48:18 This and that, like putting heart emojis. My dad writes, please delete me. What? Is he serious? He does not want to be on this thread. He does. And my God, that is so grumpy. It's beyond belief. Well, he doesn't know. He doesn't know how to like silence a group chat, you know.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So he's he's working right now. He's where he's getting all these texts. So he says, please, on the real duty, his phone's blowing up with just nice pictures of his family. And he's like, that's it. Can we out of here? That's such a classic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Do you read the story when I bought the couch from Adams? Oh, no, that's I can imagine. So when Adam was in New York, he was selling his furniture and we had just bought our house. We were looking for some cheap furniture at the time. Yeah. And so I'll buy a couch. So he had moved it to his parents' house, the furniture to his parents' house. So he was like, yeah, it's at my parents' house. You have to get it from there. So I go to his parents' house with my brother-in-law, knock on the door.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Dad comes to the door. I said, Oh, hey, Mr. Azer, how are you? You know, Jamie, work with your son, Adam, here to get the couch. Doesn't say a word. That can't be. I swear. He didn't say anything like hi or anything, he gave the equivalent of please delete me. Yeah, yeah. He was so nice. I was like, what is happening here? She does all the talking for him.
Starting point is 00:49:37 You don't disturb my dad during work. I called him during work a couple of Fridays ago and he's like, you're calling me at four o'clock on a Friday? He goes, are you senile? That's what he said to me. That's what he said to me. That's why. I heard a great story about that.
Starting point is 00:49:50 That's why he called me at four o'clock on a Friday. Because the market's closing, so. Oh my God, your dad is wild. He's had, it sounds crazy, man. How do I have a mutual friend that Adam's parents used to drive to school, elementary school? And how many, was it three of you? The two of you, Nicole and who?
Starting point is 00:50:10 In the car? Probably her brother. Okay, so driving to school, he forgot to take him to school. And none of the kids said a word. He drove us right to work. All right, here's a question from Kelly. Kelly Schweihart, what are your thoughts on adding
Starting point is 00:50:26 one tenth of a point per first down? It says point one points per first down. Seems to be, that's not really a lot, but seems to be becoming more popular scoring item. I wanna know your opinions. I've heard of it. I've never actually played in a, actually besides maybe one year in Scott Fishbowl, he did it.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Um, but I haven't really played in too much experience at the point for first down. He did. If you like more scoring. I look, I don't like it at all because it's disproportionate for running back 16 of the top 19 in first downs game last year were running backs. And then if you, and actually that's not including quarterbacks. Like I don't know where Lamar Jackson, for example, right? Obviously, you don't include passing first downs, but if Lamar Jackson runs for, come on, you're going to make Lamar Jackson that much more
Starting point is 00:51:11 valuable. So I don't really like it. If you replaced PPR with point per first down, I think, you know, or maybe I don't know, I just think it would have PPR if you just want to add some more. Yeah, I don't want to do it, but the thing with me is like I find myself, I don't like to do new things and then I try them and I'm fine with them. So you probably would be fine with point for first down. Point one point for first down is not really that much. Like Derek Henry, I think led the NFL with about 105 first downs receiving and rushing. So point one, I mean, that's 10, 10 and a half points
Starting point is 00:51:46 throughout the year. That's not really doing anything for your league. All right, this is from Jim, who are some late round tight end options, none of this eighth round garbage. If I don't get a great one, I'm the last guy on my league drafting a tight end. How about a tight end outside the top 15 that could finish top six? It's going to depend. I think what kind of rank list you look at, because like, that's sort of Dalton Kincaid range for me right now, like 12, 13, 14. I think you're looking at the group of Colcomet, Jake Ferguson, maybe Tucker Craft slips to this range.
Starting point is 00:52:20 The rookies will probably be in this range just because rookie tight ends don't usually have that great of a track record. So depending on where they land they could be ranked higher than this But they'll be sort of you know, high-end tight end twos Depending how far John and Smith falls he could be in this range. I think I'll go ahead of that though So I got an oldie but a goodie. I like the fit of Evan Ingram with Sean Payton and he won't be a top Yeah, I think he goes higher. I'll be drafted. He goes higher, okay. When you said Oldie, I was gonna say Zach Ertz again,
Starting point is 00:52:47 just because it stays there and was pretty productive. Can I throw out a name? Oldie but goodie? Oldie but badie? Kyle Pitts. Yeah, I mean, look, some of us will never be able to quit Kyle Pitts. I may be one of them,
Starting point is 00:53:02 but this may be finally the year I can get out of there. Well, but I would take him as tight end 15. I like Theo Johnson. I'll throw that out there. I mean, it's probably unlikely, but at least he showed off crazy talent at the end before he got hurt. See, I prefer to Jatavian Sanders because he doesn't have Malik neighbors to contend with. Johnson will play a lot of like all the snaps. I'm not so sold on Sanders. He's not the same kind of tight end. Oh, is a likely, I say like he's always a good one if Andrews gets hurt. And Kate Otten would be really good if someone got hurt I think well I don't know about really good he was really good when both of those guys were hurt.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. But yeah likely likely is gonna get drafted I think in a lot of leagues. You know I might throw in there because I like him I've always liked his talent and just don't think the situations I've been great for him at quarterback. I could throw in there Pat Fry and move the Aaron Rodgers signs with the Steelers. That's not bad. I don't know how he would do it unless they traded Pickens with Metcalf and Pickens there.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I don't know that. I just think Rodgers loves to throw the tight ends but hit the seam. Oh, you know who could be good now is Tyler Conklin. Yeah, maybe. Chargers. Yeah. Maybe it's hard to see him having the top six. Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Well, this lead was at one point like a top 12 for us. Yeah, but top six was the question. I don't know. Oh, it's tough at tight end. You don't, I mean, someone will break into the top six. Oh, the fantasy cops are interrupting Dan. I got two stories at the end too. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Fantasy cops comes from Slowrob27. He says, Dear John, Trey, Mike and Paige. Trey, Mike and Paige. This is Fish. Jimmy Page, Trey Anastacio. This is Fish. Oh, I was thinking just guitarists. Well, it would have said Jimmy, not Paige.
Starting point is 00:54:46 You're really not just not that good at this. Anyway, my best friend started a keeper league over 10 years ago. The league is also comprised of guys we've been friends with for 15 to 20 plus years. The keeper rules for Dave Richard are three keepers maximum for three years. Oh no, low battery on my computer. What? Oh, okay. Whew, that was close.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Anyway, I read this whole thing. The preamble here is not all that important. The commissioner doesn't like tanking. So cut to this year's draft, the commissioner declared there would be no tanking. Tanking is not allowed in this league. Four weeks later, someone was O and four and started tanking. Then another guy started tanking from second place.
Starting point is 00:55:35 The commissioner allowed all of this to happen, of course. I just feel like the rules are the rules. They cannot be arbitrary. And there has to be some kind of vote on rule changes. That's the other thing, the commissioner's just doing these unilateral rule changes. That's the other thing. The commissioner is just doing these unilateral rule changes. Again, the commissioner is my best friend of 25 plus years. I don't want to quit the league, but I feel like I have to do something to make it more
Starting point is 00:55:55 fair. What say the fantasy cops? So what do you do when your commissioner is your best friend for 25 plus years and he's not really doing that great of a job as the commissioner. I mean if he's your best friend it should be an easy conversation about hey let's let's fix this and how can we fix it like if your friendship is that strong nobody should get offended by you saying something about how he's running the league. Agreed. Yeah and you could be co-commissioner. Yeah I agree I think you guys you just have to have like an honest conversation. Maybe try fantasy couples therapy. That's true. Work for you.
Starting point is 00:56:29 All right. Thank you for your candid fantasy cop submission. Let's do we have. Oh, I guess we should do. We should do some chat questions. Man, why is every show so long? All right, Dan, tell us your stories. Two quick travel stories. Traveled a bunch a month ago, went to the FSGA and accepted an award
Starting point is 00:56:46 for fantasy people today. So that was fun and that was cool. But part of these travels is you fly on a plane and you know, first incident that happened on the plane. Back up, what? You do what now to travel? You gotta fly on a plane. And one incident, first incident on the plane,
Starting point is 00:57:02 I'm sitting there, we're getting ready to take off. And as the flight attendant is coming down the aisle, nice lady, older lady, she must have not liked the way that I had my seatbelt on. What? Yeah, it must have been considered by her to be too loose without saying a word, without saying anything to me. Now I had the seatbelt on, it was strapped in, but it wasn't like tightened up.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I don't, I don't wear it tightened up personally on a plane. I'm don't find that comfortable without saying a word as she's cruising down the aisle telling people, you know, Tracy dub, whatever I had her, I was, I was a compliant with every other rule that they have, but apparently she didn't like the seatbelt and how tight it was or how lag or how the opposite was. She reached down and tightened the seatbelt for me. That's the same word. It was insane all the way.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Tightened it all the way. I was just left there speechless. So that happened. Then we get down. There's a little turbulence on the flight. This thing, I'm really grumpy when it comes to this type of stuff. Oh, I know what you're going to say here. You know what I'm going to say?
Starting point is 00:58:02 There's turbulence on the flight. I don't enjoy this. Oh, it lands. clap, clap, clap. We're clapping, it landed. Oh my God, huge round of applause. Whatever, I can get over that. But then this is what really bothers me on a plane. Nothing bothers me more.
Starting point is 00:58:13 When the plane lands and you're in the back, because I'm not ever buying the seats up front, I'm buying the cheaper seats in the back. I'm in like the 30s. You're Costanza. Yeah, not only, look at this comment from the chat. She did, that's my move. That's my move.
Starting point is 00:58:28 So I'm in the back and the plane just landed. We are all the way in the back. The people who get right up from their seats. Oh yeah. Jam into the aisle. So now I have somebody from like four rows behind, got all his stuff, he's walking in. He's like all the way as far up as he can get, right?
Starting point is 00:58:43 Like, so he's passed like all these seats above me. And his wife is doing it and then I see other people starting to try To do this. I'm just like that's it and I just put my arm like this across the road to the back of the other barricaded It barricaded it out. I wasn't letting it happen anymore. It's annoying dude Like everybody wants to get off the plane. Yeah, wait for the people in front of you to the board You don't you don't it's not your world We're not just living in your world where you just jam up in front of everybody and run. Look, if you're connecting flight, that's one thing. But I could just tell you, it doesn't matter. He's not
Starting point is 00:59:11 going anywhere. Like they're not going anywhere. People who are connecting flights anyway. They were just the people who think that's their world. They're we're all just living in it. Who takes a connecting flight to Vegas to like that's your destination. But no, they're you're not you're not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere. You're at the mercy of of the 30 rows ahead of you. Just chill out. Keep sitting. Yeah, relax, send some text message.
Starting point is 00:59:31 So that was one. And the other thing was in Vegas, we went out with a few CBS sports employees, one night after one of the conference days, and we were downtown at Circus. So I don't know if you guys know, but Fremont Street downtown, really fun experience, crazy. And I went out with Chalensky and a few of the other people who work with the company, and we're passing something called the Heart Attack Grill. Have you guys heard of the Heart Attack Grill?
Starting point is 00:59:54 No. In Vegas? Jamie has. So there's a big sign on the Heart Attack Grill that says if you're over 350 pounds, you get to eat for free. And they have a huge massive scale in front of the restaurant. So I stoop, I was maybe a little, we had a few cocktails that night and I went up to
Starting point is 01:00:12 the scale and she looks at, why would you ever go on that scale? I pop on that scale, Adam and Jamie, stunned to see it. 191. I've never seen a number anywhere near that. I believe that they juice up the scales. I think there's something wrong with the scales. And I've since taken out a defamation lawsuit against the wait a second. You think the restaurant that's going to give away free food if you hit a certain way is juicing
Starting point is 01:00:36 up the scale juicing up the scale. I think they're juicing down the scale 191. I think you're close to 200. I've never even been over 185 in my life. I think you're close to 200. I've never even been over 185 in my life. I think you're close to 200. I've never even been over 185. And it said 191. So I you know, and I'm gonna lose to you and you're gonna beat me in tennis. I'll beat you even if I'm gonna be wheezing. 30 pounds I'll beat you. I can't move. I'll beat you in that sport. We noticed that you look pretty ripped when you were accepting the award.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Apparently not according to the heart attack grill. Well, maybe it's muscle. We can go with that. You have a wonderful golfer's body, dad. That's not good for golf either. So what are you gonna do about this? You gonna diet or you just gonna accept, you just gonna think the scale is wrong?
Starting point is 01:01:15 I have since dieted a little bit. Not really, I've never been on a diet in my life, but I just have not eaten as much sugar lately, which has helped a lot. Oh yeah, that will definitely help. God, I got these Girl Scout cookies that I'm just. The Girl Scouts are the worst. We bought so many, about three boxes of Girl Scout cookies.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And then you just open a box and you just crush them. Well, no, I eat like one a day, but even that's too much. Oh, that's discipline. That is a good discipline, honestly. All right, any questions from the chat? We got a few minutes left. Yes, it is opening day. The Dan has, Jamie has to go.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Thank you, Jamie. Opening day. That Jamie has to go, thank you Jamie. Opening day, let's go Mets. You gonna be a real Mets fan this week or? This week, sure. I mean this year? No? Possibly, doubtful. I don't see any questions in the chat.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Okay. So, we can go. Oh, I'll tell you something. I know you're not gonna like this and I'll bring this up on another episode because I know by this point we don't have our full audience. So you won't watch The Simpsons
Starting point is 01:02:10 even though I told you an episode to watch. You should watch Cape Fear. Maybe I will. Is it streaming on something? What? Disney Plus, yeah. Okay. Cape Fear, I think it's like the first episode of season three or something.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I don't know about Disney Plus. Go on. I've been watching a little Seinfeld on Netflix. I'm watching season four, season five. Yeah. It's not that good. Oh my god. Like it's not as good as I remember it.
Starting point is 01:02:30 It's a little painful. Oh my god. It's a little painful. This take is so bad. I can't even entertain it. No, like, I mean, when I was young, I thought these were so funny. I just watched the episode. I still watch it all the time.
Starting point is 01:02:40 It's still so funny. I'm a little disappointed. I think it takes. Such a good situation you are. Season four is like. I think it takes a season for is like, I think it takes at least five seasons before it gets really good. I can't entertain this. Yeah. And this is a great.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Cape Fear is a great episode of The Simpsons. It's one of my favorites. Check that one out. Here's a question from Brooks. If you're a contender, are you trading Christian McCaffrey now or riding him into the sunset? Three to three Pete champ riding him into the sunset? Three Pete champ, ride him into the sunset.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Ha ha, Schaefer's killing me for my Seinfeld take. I'm just telling you, I would have said, oh, Seinfeld, amazing show, go watch season four. Tell me that it's not a little bit painful. You know, I don't know, I'd have to look at the individual episodes in season four, but I could just probably, let me see something. I mean, we don't have time for this,
Starting point is 01:03:23 but I would love to see the episodes. Yeah, we don't have time for this, but I would love to see the episodes. Now we don't have time to see if I remember any of them. Thank you everybody. It starts with the trip. It's a great episode one and two. No, I wasn't enjoying it. The Bubble Boy. That's season four or five.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Four. Yeah, Bubble Boy was one of my favorite episodes back in the day. It's the whole thing with the- Schaefer's gonna come on and argue with me. George trying to get on the NBC pilot the show. You're muted. No, I was just gonna say Seinfeld actually gets better when Larry David departs the show.
Starting point is 01:03:56 That's another term. I'm like, when he leaves, like, I think it's, it's like season six or something. After that, like, it's so much better. Is that right? I didn't know that he did depart the show. Yeah, he left and just stayed as the George Steinbrenner character and then his other cameos that he had.
Starting point is 01:04:14 That is so interesting. Yeah, I don't know, I don't remember exactly what season it is that he leaves, but it gets better. Okay. All right, all right, well, I gotta go. And Dan, you and I are doing FFT Express, so we'll talk to you all there. Thanks for watching.
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