Fantasy Football Today - Mailbag! Winston, Dobbins, Fantasy Cops and More (05/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)
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Tell you what, that was a spectacular play.
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
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Touchdown.
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck.
We are mailbagging here on CBSSports.com.
Welcome to Fantasy Football Today.
Getting you ready for the weekend here with a mailbag.
I am all over the place because we are drafting right now as we speak.
Chris is on the clock.
I'm on deck.
Jamie's in the hole.
We've got consecutive picks in a startup dynasty super flex mock draft that we are doing right now.
We're probably not going to talk about it, but we are
going to make some picks while we
podcast. All right. Anyway,
we've got fantasy cops. We've got your
Apple podcast questions. We've got your emails
at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
Chris, did you make your pick yet? Yes, you
did. Okay, now it's me.
Jamie, can you talk while I...
Chris, why don't you talk while I make a pick?
It's a super flex dynasty startup,
which means it's completely different
than any of the drafts we've done so far this year.
We've done...
I think we might have done a super flex draft.
We've done a dynasty startup draft.
But the two of them together
and the fact that I haven't
specifically prepared for this or done rankings uh it's just making it really difficult for me
to know like what is the right time to move on a quarterback specifically you know i didn't get
one of the elite ones um i got saquon barkley first seems Seems like a good pick. But I have no idea what to do with the quarterbacks.
And also Heath has been really mean to me today,
and he's the commissioner,
so I'm trying not to screw this up.
So, yeah.
Okay, I made my pick now.
Jamie's up.
All right, we got a lot of questions.
We got a good one about J.K. Dobbins.
We got a good one about Zero RB.
We've got a good one about A.J. Brown.
That's a decent one about A.J. Brown.
Ben Roethlisberger,
Joe Burrow,
Travis Kelsey.
How about drafting
two elite tight ends
with your first two picks?
We will talk about
all of that.
We are going to start,
however,
with the Fantasy Cops.
Your questions
on Apple Podcasts.
We had a Fantasy Cops
question.
Here we go.
It is from
Corey,
the future Podcast
League champ.
Dear Jake,
Scully, Boyle, and Pimento.
That's a great show.
Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I haven't seen Brooklyn Nine-Nine
in a while, man. I was binging that.
Is it still on TV? I never see
it on TV anymore. I think their final season
is coming out this year. I never see it
in syndication anymore.
There's got to be something to that.
Adam, just pay
the $8 a month for Hulu, man.
You're a cable cutter?
I need your help with something that happened
in my 16-team Dynasty League this week.
Two members made a wager
on who would get more catches this
season, ETN or
Chark. The winner of this bet would get to swap picks
within one round of next year's rookie draft.
In order to count, both players must play 10 games,
and the one-round rule allows for pick swaps
of first and second, but obviously not first for third
or first for fourth, et cetera.
Some league members are calling this bet unethical
since the bet only involves pick swapping
and there's no guarantee that any rookie will be better
than any other. It's just trading
an opportunity of drafting a player. If it were
wagering a player or a known commodity, I'd
say it was unethical. What do you guys think
about wagering pick swaps in future
rookie drafts?
I have no problem.
Got any problem? No?
Yeah, it's silly.
I don't know if I would do it,
but it's not collusion.
It's not like cheapening the league in any way.
It's just two owners or players acting of their own volition
in a very silly way.
See, they're betting who's going to have more catches,
ETN or Chark,
and they're going to put a future rookie pick on the line,
swapping rookie picks.
Jamie, any issues?
I was paying attention to the draft.
I'm sorry.
Give me the question again while you're on the clock.
That's okay.
And you just made a pick and I'm on the clock now.
The question is, these two fantasy managers
wagered
swapping,
the right to swap picks, rookie picks
in dynasty drafts in the future.
And they're going to get, they're going to pick
who's going to have more catches this year,
DJ Chark or Travis Etienne.
So do you have any issue with them
swapping picks? There's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, I agree.
I feel like sometimes we're a little bit too restrictive
and we're taking kind of the wacky fun out of fantasy football.
Yeah, that's not...
I mean, you're leaving something up to chance, so...
Yeah.
Okay.
Let me just make...
And it's not like it's going to give someone
a huge competitive advantage or like...
Shoot.
Keep the balance of power in your league, you know?
Oh, gosh. Heath he's gonna hate me
all right I got the pick in all
right anyway thank you for the fantasy cops
question we are gonna have another
entire episode dedicated to
your Apple podcast review questions next
Thursday leave a review on
Apple podcasts including your name
and a question and we will read it
on the show.
Here are some more Apple Podcast questions before we get to the emails. This is from Josh in Buffalo.
Do I take Jamar Chase or Kyle Pitts at 102? I could use major help at all positions. My tight ends are Gronk Howard and Kyle Rudolph. Would you take Chase or Pitts?
I think you can look at it if you just expand it, you could get a receiver at 2.2,
2.02.
That is not,
you might be able to get,
yeah,
but the combination of pits and let's say Elijah Moore or Cadareous Tony is
probably better than chase and whatever you're getting.
They're probably not the same receiver.
Yeah.
So if you believe in Kyle Pitts and you're torn,
I'd go Pitts. Yeah, I think Chase
will be better as
a rookie. I think the upside is probably
pretty similar because Pitts could be the
next version
of that tight end who gives you wide receiver one
production.
So I think it's pretty close.
The Falcons
would probably tell you to take pits, right?
Okay, next question is from Josh in Detroit.
Dear Tony, Pauly, Silvio, and Christopher.
Those are the DuckTales ducks.
I have the 1.2, 1.3, and 2.2 picks in my rookie-only draft. Chase is probably going one. So he has 1.2, 1.3, and 2.2 picks in my rookie-only draft.
Chase is probably going one.
So he has 1.2, 1.3, and 2.2.
I'm thinking Harris and Pitts at picks two and three.
My other starting running back would then be Zach Moss.
Should I consider ETN over Pitts,
or do you think if I can get Sermon or Carter at 2.2,
they might be better than Moss?
12 team or 10 team?
I don't know.
So assume 12.
I think you go...
It's Harrison Pitts or Harrison Etienne,
that's the question?
Right, so Zach Moss is his RB2.
Yeah, I'm taking the two best talents.
I'm taking Harrison Pitts.
Yeah, I think it's easy.
It's not that hard to find a running back.
It's a lot harder to find a tight end
who could give you what Kyle Pitts likely will.
It's pretty hard to find a running back
in a dynasty league, though.
Unless you're trading.
I don't know.
The thing about dynasty,
running backs turn over so much
that you can't really be confident
in what Zach Moss is going to be in three years. You't really be confident in what Zach Moss
is going to be in three years. You can't be confident
in what even Travis Etienne.
We don't know what this offense is going to look like.
We don't know what his role is going to be.
Pitts is obviously not a slam dunk.
There's no
player that's slam dunked.
He seems as close to
potentially
star as anybody in this draft
and maybe anybody coming into that position that we've seen in forever.
So you don't want to miss on what he could be.
I think Travis Etienne is going to be good.
He may be great.
But I'd rather take my chances two, three years from now
knowing I had Kyle Pitts as opposed to Travis Etienne
who could
you know maybe be a mid-range fantasy option yeah yeah yeah and and like i just i think pitts is the most likely player in this draft to be a superstar besides maybe the quarterbacks okay let's go to
danny m m 10 team Superflex Dynasty League.
I took over a dumpster team, and now I have pick 101.
I traded for Dak Prescott last year.
Remember, it's Superflex.
I also have Rodgers, Fitzpatrick, and Tyrod Taylor.
I am taking Trevor Lawrence or Trey Lance with 101.
What should I ask for, though, in return for Aaron Rodgers?
Can I get a first-rounder in a Superf, in return for Aaron Rodgers? Can I get a first rounder in a super flex dynasty league for Aaron Rodgers?
And that is actually, I think the draft we're doing right now
is probably pretty helpful for that, no?
Yeah, I mean, I took Rodgers in the fourth round at 41 overall.
I'm not sure how I feel about it,
but I think he's referring to a first round.
He is, he is, but I think he's referring to a first round.
He is,
he is,
but it's,
I guess it's worth noting like where he went among quarterbacks.
Uh,
probably like 10.
Yeah. Probably not much different than,
no,
no,
no.
Cause Lance and fields went ahead of him.
Yeah.
Okay.
I wasn't really,
and,
and hurts.
I took her right before you took Roger.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I,
I think you should be expecting a,
a first round rookie pick for him in a,
in a super flex league,
even though it's dynasty,
like the next three years are the most important thing you should be
thinking about.
And Aaron Rogers is likely to still be very good for that.
I think also like if you're targeting a first round pick,
you should be looking realistically toward the back end of the first
round.
I know you want to be in the front end of it, but the back end is going to be the teams that are in win now
as opposed to the front end of the teams that are probably looking to hold on to their draft picks
the back end of the first round is going to be teams that are like i'll give up my first round
pick to win the league this year and rogers is going to help them again you want to probably
be toward the front end if you can so maybe you have to package something with rogers to get into
the first six picks but that's your goal but i think you can. So maybe you have to package something with Rodgers to get into the first six picks. But that's your goal.
But I think you can definitely
make a pick at the back end
of round one to get something,
get a first round pick for Rodgers.
All right.
Our next question
comes from,
Jamie's on the clock,
you might be able to hear,
from the 12 you know.
Hey, Mac, D, Dennis, and Charlie.
These are easy ones today.
That's lost.
Yeah, that's lost.
Last year,
Adam's philosophy on tight end in redraft PPR was greater late.
Yeah,
it was.
Yeah.
Same philosophy this year.
Do you feel there's some mid round guys worth snagging?
There are always mid round guys worth snagging.
The question is,
will they end up actually being worth the premium that you pay for them because what ends up happening with tight end specifically but you also see it a lot
with running backs where the top end gets pushed up to the tippy top of the draft and this year
it's waller kittle and kelsey they're going to be gone in the first 30 picks then there's a pretty precipitous drop and the next tier ends up getting pushed up because you want the guy who could be the next
wall or kittle or kelsey and so hawkinson pits um andrews maybe dallas goddard. Andrews. And Andrews, yeah. Those guys could end up getting pushed up
into the fifth round to seventh round range.
And that range historically has not been a very good place
to pick a tight end.
Because you are picking those guys
who have either never done it
and were projecting them to or have some other flaw.
Yeah, that is where Darren Waller went last year, though.
Maybe slightly ahead, but I agree.
It is risky.
I've been taking a lot of Hawkinson.
Jamie likes Hawkinson even more than I do.
Yeah, I don't mind the mid-round guys.
I hope I can get them in round seven.
Dallas got it in round seven or something.
Kyle Pitts in round seven or eight.
I'd be fine with, I guess.
I really hate the late picks this year.
You and I, I think, are fighting for Hawkinson,
so we're pushing up his value a little bit.
I think in most drafts, he's going to go round six or later.
Right. Yeah, that'd be better.
What Jacob Gibbs told us on Monday
makes me even more optimistic
about hawkinson i just i just read a great story i forget which detroit paper uh talking to tight
ends coach and what dan campbell is going to be for hawkinson and um the same thing i mean it's
just there there's there's so much to like about him but again it's the same scenario where we were two years ago with ingram nojoku and howard henry
there was so much like about those guys oh that was right so well two years ago was yeah nojoku
was like think later than that right it was ingram yeah i'm sorry uh i was thinking of the three
young kids. Yeah.
You know, actually,
this kind of dawned on me during our last draft.
I think you guys are too low on Ingram.
I think he's like 18th or something in the rankings. You can't bet against Calvin Benjamin, though.
I just think if there's a tight end
that you're going to take with one of your last picks
that has potential to really surprise us,
he's,
he's definitely on that short list.
Yes.
Um,
okay.
That's fair.
Yeah.
Jamie's on the clock.
So we have back to back to back picks.
So let's read a new question here from Bosco and apple river to
quarterback league,
six point per passing touchdown PPR.
Each team can keep one player.
They drafted in the fifth
or the 10th round.
Fun.
Should I keep DK Metcalf in the fifth
or Justin Herbert in the 10th?
I can only keep them for one year.
Go Canes.
I support that.
Go Canes.
The Carolina Hurricanes?
Yeah.
In the playoffs.
They probably, I would assume,
in the playoffs.
Metcalf in the fifth or Herbert with the tenth.
I think it's Metcalf.
Oh, it's a 2QB league.
It's a 2QB league.
Oh, 2QB league.
Okay, okay, okay.
Oh, Herbert.
Easy.
Easy.
Easy Herbert.
All right, we're going to take a break while I make a draft pick.
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We are back.
Back, and I still haven't made my pick.
So, do you have the notes in front of you, Chris?
I do have the notes.
Actually, here's the question. It's from Mitch. What is your position
on Jameis Winston?
I think he's a great late-round pick for
redraft leagues. I think there is
top-10 upside if he
ends up the starter for the Saints.
I am very high on the potential
of that offense if he is the starter.
As far as what his long-term value might be, it's really hard to say. I don't think it's
particularly high, but he should be certainly rostered in dynasty leagues, even one QB dynasty
leagues, because there's a non-zero chance that he just ends up being the same starter for
the next five years i think the thing you got to keep in mind is for the short term i agree with
what chris said about long term i don't know five years because it's not like he's so young anymore
um but for the short term it's going to be a problem because tasem hill is there yeah and i
don't mean in terms of tasemom Hill kicking him to the bench permanently.
I mean, for what could happen in game, because we saw what Drew Brees was all
thing quarterback and, you know, is on the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks for a
lot of people.
And Sean Payton wasn't afraid to take him off the field for him to take Brees
off the field for, for Taysom Hill.
So, you know, there's going to be a lot of Taysom Hill packages,
and that's going to be frustrating.
So I think you just have to understand that there'll be some big games.
There'll be some games where Jameis Winston, if he's a starter, wows you.
And there'll be some games where he could have 300 and no touchdowns
because Taysom Hill came in and took those away.
So that's the frustration, I think, when it comes to Jameis.
But the upside is huge.
If he is the guy and the only guy,
then you're talking about hopefully more throws downfield,
open up the offense a little bit, not as accurate, clearly,
because Breeze is the most accurate quarterback ever,
but so much potential for everybody in this offense if Jameis is the guy.
Who is on the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks?
You know, there's two.
Two easy ones.
Well, Peyton Breeze.
I mean, Peyton and Brady.
I was going to say Montana and Brady were the easy ones.
There's three.
Yeah, Peyton Manning has to be on there,
but it's tough.
I mean, Marino, Elway, Johnny Unitas.
Yeah, I think Marino's the best of the remaining ones, but it might tough i mean marino elway johnny united yeah like i i think marino's the
best of the remaining ones but it might be patrick mahomes marino gets knocked because he doesn't
ever ring that's the only thing yeah which is silly if you're talking about quarterbacks he
belongs if you're talking about you know what the accomplishments as as thrower as passers he
belongs as as a NFL player,
he probably gets knocked for that.
He's the best quarterback.
We don't have to give in to
conventional wisdom here. We can make our own damn
Mount Rushmore with our own criteria.
If you're just looking at the best four quarterbacks,
I guess Peyton Manning is...
I guess he's third.
Right? He's third.
Peyton is third?
He's one of the top three.
I mean, Brady and...
I think Brady and Montana
are one and two, right?
Yeah, I mean...
Probably in most people's minds, yes.
Brady's...
I mean, you know,
if you think about the actual
Mount Rushmore,
like, you know,
there's one guy who kind of,
you know, you got Washington, legendary.
Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence.
Really good job on that one.
Lincoln, there's no accounting for what he did.
Really good job.
And Teddy Roosevelt, like, he was great.
Like, national parks, everybody loves them.
He had a pet bear.
But, you know, there's clearly
a tier drop-off at that
point, is what I'm saying.
The funny thing is, how many records
Mahomes is going to shatter with 17 years?
That's a good point.
I think Aaron Rodgers
is
the best quarterback
that I've ever seen.
Yet, I obviously couldn't
put him ahead of Brady.
The totality of the
career is obviously not the same.
I would put him ahead of Breeze.
You would not put him ahead of Breeze?
They have the same amount of rings, but Breeze
has more accomplishments. Now, Rodgers unfortunately
got screwed because of how his career started playing
Van Farr.
Yeah, I'll just... Mar and like marinos was 84 season
yep there have been other seasons that have outpaced it statistically
that is the most dominant quarterback season of all time if you look at what
everyone else in that league yeah look at what everyone else in that league did
there were teams starting for like 160 yards per game back then
and he threw for 4800 yards babe ruth
yeah chris is on the clock uh go ahead and make that pick don't take the guy that i am going to
take oh what do you want yeah um uh by the way he meant chris talked about teddy rosenvelt having a
pet bear i was just reading about the ravens offensive lineman who eats squirrels. You hear about this guy? Yeah.
Ben Cleveland eats squirrels.
Yeah.
Oh, you son of a...
That is so... That was the most obvious thing ever.
I was split between two wide receivers,
and he had to be the one.
You piece of...
squirrel.
All right, Devante Smith taken.
Okay, anyway, here's our next question.
Next question is, did zero RB work?
No, I have to skip that one because I have to make a pick
and it's too long to read.
Barry wants to know, Barry from Pensacola,
why are we sleeping on J.K. Dobbins?
In 2019, Mark Ingram finished his RB8 in half PPR.
I'll let you start this one, Chris, and you're the lower guy on dobbins uh i don't think the royal we is sleeping on dobbins i'm i'm certainly
a little bit lower on him than everyone else but he's still a top 20 ish running back for me i think the biggest thing is like yes mark ingram did finish as rb8 in 2019
but that was with five receiving touchdowns on 29 targets so already i think you just throw that out
and say like that is not really relevant he was very good that year but he wasn't as good as an RB8 usually would be. For me, it comes down to, with Dobbins,
one, he's not going to rush for six yards per attempt again.
I would expect he's going to be right around five.
That's been the standard for Ravens running backs
over the last couple of years.
And if he gets to 200 carries, 225 carries
at five yards per carry, that's really, really good.
The problem is, I'm not sure there's a 260 carry ceiling in this offense.
They really like to keep their running backs fresh and rotate them in.
There's no reason Gus Edwards shouldn't get a significant
number of carries. Let me ask you this before you keep...
Sorry. Let me just cut to the chase here. If we saw Mark
Ingram get low 200 carries
and finish as a top 10 running back,
and we saw when J.K. Dobbins got his 13, 14 carries per game
in the last six games of the season,
he was a top 10 running back.
Why can't we just be higher on Dobbins?
Right, but that wasn't sustainable.
He averaged 6.4 yards per carry from in that stretch.
He's going to be way over 5, though.
And it was really the touchdowns.
Nobody's way over 5.
That's the thing.
Nobody at 200 carries
is way over 5 consistently.
He could be way over 5.
He'll be over 5.
I think he'll be right around 5.
I think that's a very good place
to set expectations.
The problem is in that, uh, what was it? I think his last seven games, I'm trying to find the stat.
He had 89 carries, I think in the final seven games of the season in those same game,
Gus Edwards had 61. And I kind of think it's going to be like a 60 40 split between those two with RB carries and
for this team historically that's been around 200 220 carry pace for a 16 game season
maybe you bump that up a little bit but not expecting anything in the passing game really
from him uh and you know yes he was a top 10 quarterback but that was with nine touchdowns
in seven games I think um or eight touchdowns in seven games, I think.
Or eight touchdowns in seven.
What he did at the end of last season
wasn't sustainable, and
he just doesn't have the workload
that all of the other top 12 running
backs have. He might be
projected for the fewest touches
of any running back
in the top 24.
Well, yeah.
And maybe that's wrong.
But not the fewest carries,
but the fewest touches
because you're factoring in the catches.
I get that.
You know, obviously he's going to be good
in yards per carry,
and hopefully he'll be good in touchdowns.
And I think there just aren't that many workhorses.
That's why we had this conversation the other day.
You know, like, if you look at the top 10 running backs from last year,
the top 12,
Todd Gurley had 195 carries,
Kareem Hunt had 198,
Aaron Jones had 201.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry.
I'm sorted by something else.
Sorry.
Okay, let me get you the updated info.
The top 12 running backs, you've got, yeah hunt 190 for chub um 201 for aaron jones i mentioned they're all top 10 232
for jonathan taylor 187 for alvin camara uh 38 for cream home was a top 10 running back
last season non-ppr man okay yeah i'm looking at ppr but like even in pp non-ppr where those
catches don't count the yardage still does and so you you're talking about, you know, a difference of 400,
350 and 400 yards for,
you know,
those guys to 150 to 200 for Dobbins.
And it's really hard.
Like he's projected for a decent amount of carries for me.
I have him 17th in the NFL and carries projected.
If you have him 17th in carries,
I would think he'd be 10th,
top 10 in yards.
In rushing yards, maybe. But I have him projected for 25 receptions.
All right, let's move on. Let's go to Chuka. Why haven't I heard anyone mention that A.J.
Brown had surgery on both of his knees this offseason? Is that kind of a big deal? Could be.
It depends how he recovers from them. I think it highlights how
impressive what he did last season was
that he was as good as he was
while being
dinged up like that.
Doesn't really bother me. It doesn't make me
think like, oh wow, we're going to get
an even better A.J. Brown next
season because he was already really good. Alright, Jamie, let's going to get an even better A.J. Brown next season because he was already really good.
All right, Jamie, let's go to our next one from Matt.
Dear Mario, Steve, Hakeem, and Victor.
Giants.
Hooray.
I have Mixon and Burrow and the third pick in a Dynasty League.
I've heard Pitts and Lawrence will go number two.
It makes sense for my team to go wide receiver with Chase,
but is that too many bangles?
I don't think in this scenario it's a problem
just because you're thinking long-term.
There's still plenty of value for those guys, for Boyd.
Obviously, Burrow and Chase should be great.
So I wouldn't sweat it
and think you have to go a different direction.
All right, next email is from Peter.
When a pitcher comes off Tommy John surgery, they limit their innings the first year back.
Is a quarterback expected to play a full season successfully?
I think Roethlisberger played okay earlier
but could not keep it up after a full season off.
Thoughts?
First of all, Peter, he said he did not have Tommy John surgery.
They've always been very vague
about the arm injury.
But I kept this question
in the notes because just generally speaking,
you know, people are very critical
of Roethlisberger last year.
He didn't have a very good year, but
should we cut him some slack and think maybe
his shoulder, Jamie, is
better this year and we can see a better version?
If he was 28 coming off of this as opposed to 38,
you know, the year after, it's a different conversation.
You know, you've got to factor in age.
You've got to factor in what the position is.
He's obviously not mobile anymore.
You know, what he was limited to early in his career.
So the thing you want from Roethlisberger at this point
is to make his team successful you
want him to make Najee Harris successful you want to make those receivers successful
and if you need him as a fantasy option then that just helps you uh getting him later off waivers
so he's not gonna be drafted as a number one guy can he work his way into a bottom end
number one fantasy quarterback absolutely you know so's still going to be a team that throws the ball a lot
and you love the weapons.
So I went right off Roethlisberger as a good fantasy quarterback,
but I'm not drafting him to be one.
If he surprises me, great.
And, you know, he said he didn't have Tommy John surgery.
I'm looking at an article.
A couple of weeks later, Roethlisberger had season-ending surgery
to reattach three torn flexor tendons to his elbow quote they sort so through the tendon they reattach it to an anchor
in your elbow he said I mean that's maybe it wasn't Tommy John surgery because it was flexor
tendons and not the UCL but like that's what they do in Tommy John surgery it was a Johnny Tom
surgery I believe yeah I mean it was it sounds like it was a flexor tendon
rather than the UCL, but yeah, that's...
Jimmy John surgery took five minutes.
I think a part of the problem was...
Thank you, Jamie.
I think he was scared to take a hit.
I don't want to project on him or anything,
but the way he played,
whether it was by design of the offense
or because of how he played himself,
it seemed like he was just really trying to get the ball out
before anyone could hit him.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, that's it.
I'm scared of Ben Roethlisberger.
He shouldn't be afraid of anything.
He's a big dude.
Jordan in North Van.
Would it be crazy to draft two
elite tight ends? I teased this question earlier, but
I had it wrong. I thought he meant at the 1-2 turn.
He said, what if you draft Kelsey in the
first and Waller is sitting there at the 3-4
turn? My league has three
flex spots and is non-PPR.
Non-PPR is
tough. Yeah, and I don't know if this is
10 teams. I'm not sure he's going to be there
at a 12-team league
at the 3-4 turn,
but you never know.
Three flex box?
Well, three flex is one of them
super flex?
No, I don't think so.
Because if that's the case,
then different story.
I think...
So, I did it in PPR last year
because Waller's a keeper
and I drafted Kelsey
in the first round
because he's the best player available.
So, we start two flexes
and it worked out really
well because i had a great roster with those two guys being as as fantastic as they were as a matter
of fact um at one point in the season i was starting kelsey waller and dallas goddard um just
because of some injuries and whatnot but uh it can work but in non-ppr stuff just because you know
what those guys do what makes them so successful is clearly what they do,
catching the ball.
And so you lose the,
the a hundred cash potential of both those guys.
So,
um,
you know,
tight ends don't typically score a lot of touchdowns.
Those guys happened to last year.
Will they do it again?
Um,
hard to say,
you know,
Kelsey,
uh,
two seasons of,
of prominence.
I think it was a three touchdowns two years ago.
And then,
um,
10, whatever it was this year.
Yeah.
I don't know what it was.
I don't remember what it was.
But yeah.
There's likely to be a better running back in that spot.
I think that's probably the way you would want to go.
But in a 10-team league, though,
it's not bad to maybe corner the market since you do start that many flex spots.
Yeah.
Sorry, guys. I'm on the clock.
I also, and I'm applying
what I'm about to say to this draft, I do
not like tight ends very much in leagues
that have a lot of flexes or
super flex leagues. Basically,
the more points you have on your team,
to me, the less valuable almost every
tight end is. Kelsey
might be the only exception.
Yeah, in this draft, I took him in the third round.
Startup rookie draft. Startup
super flex draft, excuse me.
He's going to fall a little bit, but I thought he fell a little too far.
Okay.
Boy, that feeling when you're on the clock,
you have five seconds left to end up taking somebody that you absolutely
hated.
Just happened to me. Let's go to Dave.
Dave is
in a 12-team PPR Keeper League where
each team keeps five players.
So every year, the running backs are pretty well
picked over. I have the 10th
overall pick. With the keepers listed
below, would you take Clyde Edwards-Elair
or Calvin Ridley in the first round?
We can only take one player per
round. So he has
both of them as first round keepers,
CEH and Ridley.
He's keeping Swift in the second,
Mahomes in the fifth,
Diggs in the 10th,
and James Robinson in the 15th.
So he's keeping,
forgetting about the rounds,
Swift and James Robinson,
Mahomes and Diggs.
Would you keep Edwards-Alaire or Ridley?
I keep Edwards-Alaire, Ridley? I'd keep Edwards-Alaire,
but I'm probably in the minority there.
No, I have Edwards-Alaire ranked higher
for 2021 at least.
And Ridley is not as young as you think.
He's, I think, going into his age 27 season now.
Man, look at these quarterbacks.
We just had a run of...ath took kirk cousins which i really
wanted remember this is super flex startup dynasty everybody's getting their third you're getting
your third quarterback now jamie uh depends who's there oh you oh you jamis was your second
quarterback yep oh i was getting my third so we had a run of Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr,
Jameis Winston, Jared Goff, all within six picks.
And Jameis Winston as your QB, too.
I've got Deshaun Watson as my QB, too.
I went young.
I went with Wilson and Brady.
And Derek Carr as my third. Okay, next up. I'm about to go went with Wilson and Brady. And Derek Carr is my third.
Okay, next up.
I'm about to go old with my third one.
Fitzpatrick?
Yeah.
Next up, we have Neil.
Hello.
Hi, Neil.
I'm doing my first Dynasty League this year.
12-team, half PPR, one quarterback, three receivers, two flex, and a tight end. I have 1.1 in the startup draft.
I've heard that getting more top picks in the startup is good, and I'm thinking about shopping
the pick. It's not a rookie draft. Remember, this is a startup draft, so this is McCaffrey
we're talking about. What are some trade values for 1.1? Is 1.6 and a second rounder enough to give up 1.1.
I'm thinking of moving down and getting an extra receiver.
Good question.
I don't think a second is enough to move from 1.1 to 1.6 in a startup
because McCaffrey just, he seems to be so far ahead of everyone.
I mean, the 2021 value, I think he's, you know,
the consensus is he's better than everyone
and should have a decent gap between him and everyone else.
And then the fact that he's still only, what, 24, 25,
you know, puts him in position to still be really good
two, three years from now.
The wide receiver class, you know,
I was talking about this in the chat of the draft we're doing,
but it's kind of in a weird spot
for Dynasty because
the proven elite guys
are all 27 to 28 or older.
And the next tier down
of younger guys
haven't quite proven
they can be on Devontae Adams
or Michael Thomas's level
that they've shown in the past.
So I just,
I think you probably need more than just a second
to move down from 1-1 to 1-6.
It's interesting.
You could have either Christian McCaffrey
or you could have in a startup dynasty draft,
that could be Dalvin Cook, that could be Barkley,
could be Jonathan Taylor, something like that.
And then in the second round, you know,
could be Metcalf.
It could be Mixon.
So, I mean, it's really good.
It's not a bad, I don't know.
I don't know.
Did he say it was PBR?
He did, right?
Yeah.
McCaffrey.
Oh, no, it's half PPR.
I still have a pretty significant gap
between him and everyone else in half PPR.
Jamie, what would you do?
Let's say first round pick,
mid-first round and mid-second round for 1.1.
Mid-first round or mid-second round for 1.1?
And 1.6 and 2.7 or whatever it is for McCaffrey, basically.
I would absolutely do it, yeah.
You would take the two picks?
Yep.
No, I would rather McCaffrey.
You'd rather McCaffrey?
Okay.
Yeah.
From Garrett, half PPR Dynasty League.
Which side wins?
A, Chase Claypool, Antonio Gibson, and Miles Gaskin.
Chase Claypool, Antonio Gibson, and Miles Gaskin? Chase Claypool, Antonio Gibson, Miles Gaskin?
Or B, Miles Sanders, Michael Thomas, and 2.5?
I think A.
I think the Claypool-Gibson side.
Really? Let's go one by one.
Would you rather have Claypool or Michael Thomas?
Dynasty.
Well, Dynasty...
Michael Thomas is 28, but yeah.
Antonio Gibson or Miles Sanders?
Gibson.
Very close, but Gibson.
Miles Gaskin or 2.5?
Gaskin.
Okay. That's probably where it gets decided then.
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