Fantasy Football Today - Mid-Round Fantasy Steals You NEED to Draft! (05/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

You can win your league with smart mid-round picks like Chris Godwin and Tee Higgins in 2024. Who are this year's mid-round studs? First, we start out with a few players (2:30) who have already been mid-round studs twice in the past three seasons and could be available in that range again in 2025! We've also got a lot of news and notes (12:30) on the tush push, the Titans backfield, Marvin Harrison Jr. and more ... Looking at Heath's favorite mid-round values, we start with Jerry Jeudy (27:30). How do we feel about drafting a player on the Browns? Are we sold on TreVeyon Henderson (34:45)? We also briefly discuss D'Andre Swift and Kaleb Johnson ... Moving on to Dave's favorite mid-round picks, Dave is very high on Chuba Hubbard (43:35) in this range. He also has a couple of Chiefs (47:10) on his list and then we talk about Jameson Williams (50:00), plus Stefon Diggs/Jauan Jennings/Ricky Pearsall (59:00) and more names to know including a running back who is almost certain to move up in the rankings ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for all the latest ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sportsbook reviews⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sportsbook To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And streaming on Paramount+. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Oh, God! This is gonna go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. You got to win your fantasy league with some great mid-round picks.

Last year, you could have drafted Chris Godwin and R with some great mid-round picks. Last year you could have drafted Chris Godwin and Rishi Rice with mid-round picks. They were top three wide receivers on a per game basis. Year after year, we get really, really good players in this range. And I'm trying to find the common theme. Is it just targeting great offenses? More on that in a little bit. Welcome to the show.

It's fantasy football today on Wednesday, May 21st. Adam Azer, Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. Heath was supposed to be on the show today, but he is not feeling well today. So best wishes out there to Heath. Hope he, hope he feels better soon. He does have a list though, that he provided of his favorite values.

And we will talk about those guys. I'm going to give you guys three players who over the last three seasons have been great mid-round picks at least twice. Chris Godwin, and all of them by the way are currently mid-round picks. By the way, what's a mid-round pick? My definition was rounds five through eight

of a 12-team draft, so that would be picks 49 through 96. Chris Godwin is currently 53rd overall in consensus rankings. So I'm using consensus rankings on Fantasy Pro. So Chris Godwin, Brandon Iyuk is currently 84th overall, and he is the highest ranked San Francisco wide receiver in the consensus rankings. And David Montgomery, these three players have been great mid-round picks twice out of the last three years. Godwin, Iyuk, and Montgomery. These three players have been great mid-round picks twice out of the last three years.

Godwin, Ayuk, and Montgomery. And Montgomery is currently ranked 61st overall in consensus rankings. He's RB 20. Dave, first of all, you surprised that Brandon Ayuk is the highest ranked San Francisco wide receiver in the consensus rankings on fantasy pros. Yeah, that does surprise me.

We know that Juwan Jennings did a nice job picking up for IU first when I missed the game. And then later on when I you hurt himself with a significant injury. And we don't know when I use going to be back, how effective it'll be. That's concerning. I would much rather spend one of these mid round picks and it's closer to round eight than round four, on Jennings, on Pearsall, the two wide receivers in San Francisco who are healthy, and they've got plenty of potential in different ways. They're not the same type of wide receiver, but they can help

fantasy managers. Whereas, IUK is a huge question mark. Man, I wouldn't feel good about drafting IUK unless it was closer or into the double digit rounds. Um, okay. And what about Jamie David Montgomery, I think is a name that I really wanted to bring up because last year in the first 10 first 14 games of the season, he was a top 12 running back overall and per game, even in full PPR. And he had more catches, two more catches than Jamir Gibbs in those 14 games. And the year before that, he was RB 15 per game.

And Detroit is a team that we have seen over these last three seasons, produce a lot of specifically the last two seasons, but even the last three really, we had three years ago you had Hockinson and St. Brown and this discussion is good mid-round picks, produce a lot of really good values. Last year Jared Goff was a great value,

Jameson Williams, they weren't even in this, they weren't even mid-round picks, they were late round picks. But Montgomery, it just seems like people sell them short a little bit I think. I definitely agree with that. And I would probably shift sell them short a little bit, I think. I definitely agree with that. And I would probably shift the goalpost a little bit and say round six through nine,

as opposed to five through eight, because I would guess that both Montgomery and Godwin were around five picks over the last two years, not mistaken, or two times in the last three of every timeframe you're using. So last year, Montgomery was 62nd. So that's basically the five, six turn. And the year before that, he was actually 86th.

That was his first year in Detroit. Yeah. I'd be surprised if they get much further than that. Both those guys. But anyway, semantics. I think in terms of what these guys have in front of them, Montgomery specifically, look, he's going to have a great role on our great offense.

Like you said, offensive line for Detroit is fantastic. It's the pushback you were bringing up and rightfully so about Jameer Gibbs being a top three overall pick or top three running back because of Montgomery and his role there. I think it's telling and it's worth repeating over and Over again that when both guys were healthy Montgomery was have had a bigger role in the past He had more exceptions than get and then you're not a bigger role But had more exceptions than Gibbs and so that's sort of a knock against Gibbs while also a plus for Montgomery There is an offense coordinator change. We know that so we'll see how much of a

Difference John Morton has than Ben Johnson and what role that means for Montgomery and Gibbs. But I think for Montgomery you're talking about a top 20 caliber running back that you're getting at a very discounted price. I'm gonna provide a nickname here and I just came up with. I think we could do a little bit better than this. But I'm gonna call this group Triple H Double J. Okay, do you guys know what Triple H, this is a group of five running backs, Triple H Double J. I mean, Dave just gave his best Triple H impersonation on.

Yeah, I'd love to get that. But this would be the five rookie running backs after Genty. We put Genty in there, it's Triple H Triple J. Triple J, right. Yeah, but all those guys are gonna be in the same range, right, you got Harvey, Hampton, Henderson, and then the J's, Judkins and Johnson. Where's David Montgomery in the Triple H, Double J group?

He's right there for me. I have Harvey and Hampton ahead of him, and Henderson ahead of him. So I have Triple H ahead of of him and double J behind him. Yes. Lean into it, Dave. I've got Montgomery further ahead because I feel like we know what his role is. We know what the expectation is.

You can pencil in double digit touchdowns for him. There are very few players that aren't quarterbacks that you can pencil in double digits, in double digit touchdowns for. I think Montgomery, I think that's his game, is scoring a lot of touchdowns, and then he can contribute in other ways as well. As I have it right now, I've got him behind Hampton, obviously behind Gentie, and that's it. Okay. All right. So more on that in a little bit. We do have a lot of news and notes to get to here. We have a blockbuster trade to tell you about in the bake burger dynasty league.

See what side Dave and Jamie like in this trade. But I will just say like there is, you know, looking at the best mid-round picks over the last three years, there are some teams you might want to target, right? Detroit being one of them and And we'll talk about that later on in the show. All right. Dynasty blockbuster trade. Justin Jefferson gets traded for Xavier Worthy and first round picks in 2026 and 2027. So Justin Jefferson for Xavier Worthy and a 2026 first and a 2027 first. Dave's not in this league. Jamie is

in this league. Jamie, who do you think won this trade? I didn't love it at first for the team that traded away Jefferson, but this is also a very aggressive trader who's made a lot of, a lot of deals to acquire first round picks several times now. The one thing that gives me a little bit pause is that I think the team that's acquiring Jefferson those first round picks will be late first round picks because his team is in a fairly good spot. And so you're giving up Jefferson for basically like if it was this year's draft, you're giving up Jefferson for potentially like an Emeka, Buca or a Luther Burden, you know, type of receiver.

Um, and I don't necessarily love that value. So if worthy is the best receiver for the cheese for the next several years and the picks come in, then it kind of offsets what Jefferson should continue to do. So I'll say it's, uh, it's a C plus in favor of the Jefferson manager. What age would you say a receiver like Jefferson's game could start to decline? Is he so good that you would say that by the time he's, you can wait until he's 32 to worry about age being a factor with Justin Jefferson. Barring injury, I would say the 32 Mark is probably the number you look at. I would agree.

And so the team that acquired Jefferson is going to get six years. And you're right about those, those first round picks, unless the team getting Jefferson's in win now mode, they've got a good squad. I can't see their squad. Very good. You tell me. All right. So they're going for it.

I, I didn't make a trade quite like this, but I was kind of in the opposite role in the dynasty league that we're all in. Well, A's or is not, cause I don't know why, but I, I don't mind going for it. And if using first round picks is what's put you over the top to go for it, then by all means you should go for it. And if using first round picks is what's put you over the top to go for it, then by all means, you should go for it. Worthy has to hit and the team getting Jefferson has to suck one of those next two years for it to work out for the team that's getting worthy in the picks. I like the Jefferson side. Okay. And I like worthy a lot. You're going to hear about that today. person side. Okay. And I like worthy a lot. You're going to hear about that today.

Oh yeah. And the Chiefs are another team that have given us some pretty good hits in this range, including Rashid Rice last year and Isaiah Pacheco the year before and I don't know if Pacheco made your lists, but he'd be on my list of favorite mid-round picks right now. But I think, you know, attaching yourself to good offenses, even though the Chiefs have not had a great offense the last couple of years, it's still been good.

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We've got some soccer podcasts. Yeah. And then you're also, you're also going to see like the 24 seven sports podcasts for specific schools. And these are very popular ones as well. So CBS sports.com slash podcasts. All right. News and notes. The tush push could be banned. Is that today that the meetings are taking place? We might. Yes. Could be the end of the tush push. I'll give you some stats. Jalen Hurts before the tush push was a thing in 2021. He did have 10 rushing touchdowns that year,

including five from one yard out of those five one yard rushing touchdowns pre tush push. There were two where his teammate did push him. It wasn't exactly the formation that we see, but that might be outlawed too. But he still scored 10 touchdowns that year before the tush push. Over the last three seasons,

42 rushing touchdowns for Jalen Hurts. I counted 27 tush pushes over those three seasons. There was two rule changes that have, well two rule proposals that have already been changed. There is now, the owners have voted to pass the new onside kick proposal that just came through. So you don't have to wait until the fourth quarter to declare that you're going for

an onside kick. It can now be anytime that you are trailing. So that's one and the playoff proposal has been removed. Oh, why the one that gives home field advantage to the better record? They didn't have the votes. So the Lions took it off the table. You know, get with the program here. It's so obvious that the better team should have home field. But if you're an owner of an NFL team and one of four of you is guaranteed a home playoff game every year, do you really want to give that up?

I don't really see the loss that you're getting because you're getting another opportunity to get home field advantage because you just have to have one of the better records. You know, I mean, For all right. But if all I need to do, if I'm the, the Jacksonville Jaguars is have a better record than the Texans Colts and Titans. And I've got a home playoff game. Now fans don't like it, but shot con likes it a lot.

Yeah. All right. Let's see some other news here. By the way, I wanted to mention with the tush push stat that the Eagles have had the third most running back carries down to the one yard line over the last three seasons. And last year, Saquon Barkley led the NFL with nine carries down to the one. Five of those nine were followed by tush pushes. Interestingly though, the commanders last year, the commanders had the second most running back carries in the NFL go

down to the one yard line. They had 13 of them, seven by Brian Robinson, five by Eckler, one by Chris Rodriguez. And whereas Jaylen Hurts usually follows up those types of runs with a one yard touchdown, that only happened one time with Jayden Daniels. He only had one one yard rushing touchdown last year. He had six total rushing touchdowns The Bears signed guard joe toony do a two-year extension We're gonna take a break because I do have actually a lot of news and notes and it's gonna go a little bit long So let's take a quick break here come back. We'll tell you about some interesting battles in tennessee at quarterback and more specifically at running back We'll talk about the titans after this on fantasy football today The battle of ontario is on and fan duels your home for live betting the series with features like live sgps build a parlay We'll talk about the Titans after this on Fantasy Football Today. Download FanDuel today and get more with North America's number one sports book. Please play responsibly. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario.

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tough schedule to start. Does anybody think Will Levis might actually start the season as the quarterback? I'd be very surprised, but you know, look, if Ward struggles in camp Will Levis might actually start the season as the quarterback? I'd be very surprised. But you know, look, if Ward struggles in camp and Levis has a good, you know, showing, then you never know if Callahan may decide, let's give Levis a start and make sure Ward is ready to go. And, you know, the Michael Penick's route or the route we've seen with, you know, several of these rookie quarterbacks, you know, over, over time. But it'd be very surprising, you know, Levis was so bad last year and Ward is coming in with so much, you know several of these rookie quarterbacks you know over over time uh but it'd be very surprising you know levis was so bad last year and ward is coming in with so much you know optimism i don't want to say hype because it feels like he's one of the least hype number one overall pick quarterbacks

we've had in a long time uh mostly because of the other quarterbacks in his class getting more attention specifically the guy in cleveland uh but in any event um i i think you have to assume that ward will be the starter but again you know le Levis has a great camp and Ward just looks awful. Then they may decide to go a different route to start season. So Dave, let's talk about the Titans running backs here because Brian Callahan said that they could have a three way backfield split. But you know, you hear that a lot. But I did think what was more interesting was him saying that in an ideal world, they'll

have more of an even split between Tony Pollard and Tajay Spears. I've mentioned on previous shows that Pollard's splits last year were dramatically different when Tajay Spears was either not playing or there were two games where he left with an injury. You're talking about almost a 100-carry difference in the 17-game paces with and without a healthy Tajay Spears. So that makes me a little nervous about Tony Pollard. difference in the 17 game paces with and without a healthy Tai-Jay Spears. So, um,

that makes me a little nervous about Tony Pollard. I'm already nervous about Tony Pollard and this, this certainly doesn't help. He's one of those settle for in the mid round RB twos, maybe a target if you go zero RB. And I think we know what he is at this point. Like every time he's had an opportunity to be the main guy, it's been hit or miss. And I think the Titans know it too. And they're going to find ways to get Spears a little bit more involved. The offense should be a little bit, it should have a little more juice to it with Cam Ward under center. His mobility, his playmaking skills, they can shift away from trying to hide the quarterback like they did last year, and let Ward handle a lot more of the offense. And that, that's something that, in my mind, like, that benefits Spears. Because

he's the, both these guys can work in the passing game, but Spears is the one that's got more explosiveness to him. And in that role, we've seen him play pretty well. But this is still, it's still a running back unit that I don't feel great about, even though they've got a lot of the things that we look for, an improved offensive line, improved quarterback situation. Is the play caller good? I really don't know after one year, because the whole thing was harpooned by bad quarterback play. I'm not excited about drafting either of these guys, unless it's Spears who just falls so far that he's going to be on my bench to be in the year. And I cross my fingers that he gets opportunities beyond what we saw last year. Paul is in this range, right, guys? I think so. Yeah, I'm very excited to draft Pollard.

All right. Are you think this is just coach speak? Because we don't need a more even split between Yeah, you're coach speak from him last year was. Yeah, and Pollard, I know a lot of that was Spears being hurt. But I'll go back to that same metric that I sent you a few weeks ago. When he's been healthy, he's been a very good running back in terms of, you know, the things that you like to see yards after contact, I think is a pretty good one. And top five in that metric three of the four years when he's been healthy.

So Spears is gonna have a role. I fully anticipate that. That's why he's not ranked as a starter, but I think as a guy you can draft as a flex or a guy that can work in your lineup or waiting for if you go hero RB or zero RB to exactly what Dave just said, everything around him got better.

Spears coming back is somewhat of a detriment. But we heard the same thing last year too. And I think Pollard showed that he can be the guy for this team as he showed at the end of last season. Round eight. Oh, I would take him for that. Round seven. I probably look for him as early round six,

but it depends on where I'm you know What my team looks like and what what running backs are off the board in PPR? I've got to be honest between him and in terms of like pros and cons not obviously the same pros and cons But like with Pacheco with some of the rookies the the two J's for example That group of guys. I think he belongs firmly entrenched there. Like I like him better than Pacheco's situation right now personally. Let's see, I have a note about his lack of touchdowns somewhere in here, but 260 carries and only five touchdowns.

He and Aaron Jones were the only running backs, I think, with 250 or more carries and that few amount of touchdowns. But again, the Titans ran the fewest plays inside the five yard line in the NFL. They were horrible. Okay. What else we got here? Marvin Harrison Jr. acknowledged that he did add weight. He said it's going to help him with contested catches yards after the catch. Yeah. Do we like this or do we dislike it? Don't say added weight. He had muscle. Still added weights. I had weight. Could slow down though. Like guys lose weight for the combine to run faster

forties. Get you at I you're typically someone who doesn't like when players add weight. I'm just clarifying. Like to say they added he added weight. Like it's making it sound like you know, I don't think anybody I hope nobody interpreted it that way, but he did add muscle, which from what I understand weighs more than fat. I don't have any muscles, so I couldn't confirm this, but walk off win. I didn't walk it off, but we had a walk off for run, a seventh inning to win the game. Nice. As you play.

I mean, I did my normal. I think I set did my normal. I think I set a record actually. First of all, I dropped a fly ball in the first inning. So there was that was great. When you say drop like you just didn't get to it or you actually physically dropped it like hit your glove and dropped it. So this guy hit the absolute crap out of the ball to opposite field.

I was in right center. I got promoted to right center for this inning from right. He, he's the best hitter on the team. Yeah. Thank you. And I was playing the other six innings I played right. Um, but one guy who was late showing up. So I got to play right center first inning. So anyway, this guy hit the snot out of the ball to opposite field. So had a little bit of like spin on it and I got there and it went like off the tip of my glove and then I caught a ball later in the evening. Were you on the move?

Drifting back. So you had time to get under it, but you still dropped it. Yeah, it was a drop. It was an error. However, I set a record, I think. Can never confirm this record, but I saw 15 pitches and did not swing at a single one. And I walked three times.

You didn't swing? No, I had three walks. Didn't swing well. That sounds like you. 15 pitches, zero swings, four pitch walk, five pitch walk. And then I walked out a full count. Can I tell you something that should help you? I have two of the teams that I coach.

One, my 10 year old travel team and my seven year old's rec team. It's brother sister. They're both tennis players and they have the most beautiful opposite swing right-handed because of their tennis swing. Like you should be driving the ball to right field. Well, I'll have you know I won six one six one last night. Okay, back to the notes. Can we go back to Marvin Harrison for a second? I guess that he plays softball yesterday. That you don't have. Yeah, go ahead.

True media says that he avoided one tackle last year on his catches. That's a 1.6 avoided tackle rate. His yards after catch per reception was 2.4 yards. That was 164th among all wide receivers. That's not very good. Those are gonna be the two stats that should go up now that he's added some beef to his frame. But they've got to use them differently. It goes back to what we were saying

all offseason and even during last season. His A-dot was 13 and a half yards. That's too high. That's not his game. Certainly not his game if he's turning into like a mini tight end. So they got to use them on shorter targets. That'll open them up and that'll give them a chance to be a good number two fantasy receiver. All right. Uh, Kellen Moore, um, said the Saints head coach, Kellen Moore said the current quarterbacks are going to get a lot of opportunities before the Saints consider adding a very, a veteran. So is your money on Tyler Shuck to be the starting quarterback week one? I might go with Rattler for week one in the current quarterback group,

but they're all terrible right now. Crystal Lave or Tony Pollard? You have to draft one. In a vacuum, I'd go Pollard. I think I'd go a lot of a Dave. It's it's an easy olave if the quarterback situation improves somehow in New Orleans. I just I don't know if it will. For now, I've got a lot of a one spot ahead of Pollard. So I said it.

So I guess a lot of I think one of the reasons why I'm not going to draft a lot of Tony Pollard, the way I see it right now, I mean, obviously things could change is I'm going to really hit the triple H double J group pretty hard. So you can just say rookie running backs, you know. No, I can't. It's triple H double J now. What else? Oh, Brian Schottenheimer, Dallas head coach.

He said George Pickens is maturing and he likes what he's seen so far from Pickens in the meeting room. Seattle GM John Schneider said this about rookie tight end Elijah Arroyo. He talked about his injury history and he was even dealing with a knee injury during the combine process so he didn't participate in the combine. Said that's exactly why he was there when we were picking at 50. He has missed time but if he hasn't missed time the talent is like a top 15 pick. I mean this guy is special. This was in an ESPN.com article and the article also pointed out that the Seahawks could save $9 million by cutting or trading Noah Fant. So you can

see what they think of Elijah Arroyo. And then NFL players can participate in flag football in the 2028 Olympics, only one player per team per country. So the United States, for example, could not have two of any team, but they can have, I think up to eight NFL players, but not from the same team. So you can't have Mahomes and Worthy on the same flag team. Correct, I wonder who's gonna be,

you know, it's gonna to be, it's going to be, what's his name? Jeremiah Smith is going to be like the big prize of the 2028 Olympics when he's the best receiver in football. The more of a Ryan Williams guy, I think. But it's just interesting to think like Justin Jefferns is like, it's so excited about it. He may not even be, I think he will be, but he may not be a top five receiver at that point. You never know. You never know. 2828 is a long way away. And the Eagles signed Nick Surrani

to a multi-year extension. Okay. Let's talk about our favorite mid-round picks. We're looking at fantasy pros PPR consensus rankings. You didn't see the Browns news with their quarterbacks? No. That apparently right now the one, the order is Kenny Pickett's the one. Okay, this is so... And one of the guys that Heath had on his list was Jerry Judy. And this is the one that I think frustrates me the most. I just want to believe it. I want to buy into Jerry Judy, but I do think the Browns could be just an absolute disaster going through so many different quarterbacks this year. And what is that going to mean for Jerry Judy, who's currently 61st in consensus ranking? So why don't we start with that?

Do you guys like Jerry Judy as a mid round pick? Love like Not concerned about the situation, Jamie? Yeah, I'm concerned. But I mean, you know, going into it, I would anticipate Joe Flacco being the starter. So for how many games, that's the question. But I think if you're looking at it at what the guys in this range are, from a receiver standpoint, like if you're telling me Jerry Judy versus Chris Alavi, I'm taking Jerry

Judy all day long. I think just based on how he finished last year and what the receiving core looks like right now, I don't know where Dave comes out on this, but I know Adam, you and I have talked about Cedric Tillman and the opportunity that he has in front of him also as the second guy there, third guy in the passing game. He played three games last year where he looked like a superstar and that's the only three games that we've ever seen from him. So yes, he has a huge opportunity in front of him. But I think if you're just looking at it, like Judy should get as many targets as he can handle and maybe top 10 and targets in the NFL, um, no matter who the quarterback is. So there are going to be some highs and lows

with this, but the highs last year were unbelievable. And we're talking about that was with Jameis Winston, who we know is great for receivers. And that's been tried and true. I'm hopeful that Flacco, as we saw with Amari Cooper and with Najoko in the 2023 season in this offense, was very special. And I think that even though there'll be some pitfalls, whether it's Pickett or the rookies, there's still gonna be enough chances for Judy to have the same type of opportunities that you may get from Olave with his crappy quarterback situation. But just given the chance of Flacco.

Now I will dial it back significantly if it's not Flacco. So I'm going in with the idea of Flacco with hopefully six to eight starts. And I love that upside for what that could be. So if it's picket, I'll drop him back, you know, probably 10 or so spots in my rankings. If it's the rookies, then I'll be even more. But I'm going with the understanding that Joe Flacco should be the starting quarterback for the Browns or at least early in the season, depending on how it's all going to play out.

So that's where I'm kind of basing on right now. The problem is, is Joe Flacco going to be the starting quarterback for 17 games? No, there's almost no chance. It's just unless, unless that defense carries them to a bunch of grind out wins. And especially in that division, uh, I don't see it happening. And how old is Flacco? He's like 57 years old. So he isn't a lot to be healthy to play even 17 games. And to give you an idea of what Judy was like last year when he had Deshaun thrown to him and Deshaun was a train wreck. Okay.

I don't know. I don't even know if there's a quarterback as bad, but just on the Browns right now is before before you finish, before you finish about to say Cooper was still on the team Sure was that's fair and it was under eight ppr points per game. It was terrible Last four games of the year. There's no Winston. Remember. Jamis. Winston is really the the spark here that turned jerry judy into You know a huge high efficiency amazing fantasy numbers. The target volume would have come without Cooper anyway, but you get my point. He was a monster with Winston last four games of the year. It's Dorian Thompson Robinson and Bailey's Zappie and Judy average 14.9 PPR points per

game, which isn't bad, but that's kind of the expectation I want to have for him when I dropped him. I agree completely. I'm over a lot of a that's easy stuff, but it's putting them in that same range as some other mid round receivers that we'll talk about where I would get a little squeamish. He's a low end number two wide receiver for me. Those last three games. First of all, the Sean Watson averaged 170 passing yards per game. And then in the which is just laughable. The last three games, Dorian Thompson Robinson and Bailey's Appie, they averaged 170 yards per game and they threw one touchdown to five interceptions in three games. Uh, he scored, he averaged, you said 15 points

per game, four points, 21.4 and 12.3. So it was all over the place for Jerry Judy. But you know what? It's, it's just like, it's apples to oranges there. So, um, different situation and they're going to throw for more than 170 yards per game. And you know what? It's just like it's apples to oranges there. So different situation and they're going to throw for more than 170 yards per game. And, you know, one touchdown for every three games. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's like when you're deciding between Jerry Judy and then you're deciding between Joanne Jennings or Ricky Pearsall. Or, you know, for some people, it's going to be IU, not for us. Just keep in mind that 49 niners keep you know they show

up on this list of a team that's had great mid round pick value over the last three years, including Brandon I you twice including George Kittle last season. You know they rock parties a guy who had wasn't been a mid round pick but he's outperformed his draft value. So it's just like you, you know, you could look at, I don't know if Jameson, where's Jameson Williams? Is he not quite in this range? Probably before, but he's in this range for me. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you could be like, is it Jameson Williams is ahead of Jerry Judy, right? For everyone or no? For me? Yeah, I would take Judy and I know he would for sure over Jameson. All right.

Yeah. I mean, that's what you got to decide. Like you could definitely see a path to more targets for Judy. But again, the Lions consistently produce guys who who destroy their ADP. So these are the decisions you're going to have to make. And it's interesting that you guys are on different sides of that. And to be fair, though, just to put it in context, you know, you're talking about these teams producing great mid round picks and, you know, using this stuff from last year. Judy was a league winner from nowhere. Yeah, it was not just last year though. It's the last three years.

What I'm saying though is, you know, in terms of draft value. And that's the thing that I, the last thing I'll say about Judy is we can't spend the whole time. It's like, he, this is not, last year was not the only year that Jerry Judy was really good. He only ended up his wide receiver 30 per game, because he only had four touchdowns. But obviously he had that stretch where he was a top five wide receiver with Jamis. But there was that one year, I think three years ago now in Denver, where he left three games super early.

But aside from those games, as as I recall he averaged about 15 PPR fantasy points per game and he was kind of the number two receiver But he overtook Cortland Sutton in the second half and they had I think they had the lowest scoring offense in the NFL So he is not a one-year wonder in my opinion. He's had two very good years and I do think that's worth mentioning for Jerry Judy All right, the rest of the guys on Heath's list, Trevion Henderson, 71st, Deandre Swift, 74th in consensus rankings, and then a couple guys later in round eight, David Njoku and Caleb Johnson. So we do have a couple of rookie running backs in there Trevion Henderson and Caleb Johnson. I don't think you guys are going to disagree with that, right?

Because Henderson 71st, Caleb 95th. No, I like all these guys, especially at their values. Dave, what'd you say? I'm sorry. I said, I keep going back and forth with Henderson because I love the talent. He was my second favorite running back in the draft class. And he's just, he's not a fit in terms of who the lead back has been for Josh McDaniels as offenses. And even recently, uh, I think during their

most recent mini camp, the Patriots didn't have a moderate with them. He had a very major family event happen. He had to leave the team, uh, andel talked like he's going to have an important role on the team. And I am scared of reaching for Henderson and hoping that he just completely eradicates Ramadre Stevenson's playing time. I don't think it's going to happen. But I love the talent. So like, one week he's up for me in the rankings, the next week he's down. I think format matters a lot. For now, I think he's like a borderline number two, number three fantasy running back. Think the thing, the two things I really like

about Henderson's situation is one, Josh McDaniels and what he's done with pass catching running backs. I mean, it's pretty amazing when you look at how much he uses those guys in the passing game. And then you look at the receiving core for the Patriots and while we're, to whatever degrees, excited about Stephane Diggs being there, coming off an ACL tear 31 years old and Kyle Williams and what he could be as a rookie and maybe Pop Douglas. I mean, you see the names I'm talking about here in the situations. Like there's a lot of opportunities

for him to make plays in the passing game. And then Ramandre has been such an up and down rusher for his career and the fumble issues. Now the thing that I think helps him, and I'm sure this is what Raible is looking at, like his success as a head coach has come with a bigger running back and a more physical guy and that's clearly going to be Stevenson, more so than Henderson going into it. But I just look at the talent, like you said, Dave, and the opportunity to me is really clear that if Henderson can, you know, establish himself as a guy that can be a consistent rusher, which he

was at Ohio state when he got those opportunities and the explosiveness and his role in the passing game, like I'm excited about this scenario for him. So to me, he's a, he's ahead of this range. I would draft him, you know, as early as round four, I would take him in around four as well. Um, wow. Round four for Trevion Henderson. No, I don't think I would see. And this is why I, you know what, I'm probably going to end up being like right on the fence of Henderson. And the one thing that you said that made me react a little bit, James, was that you saw Henderson with a big role at Ohio state two years ago. He had it. No, no, I didn't say he had a big role. I didn't say it a big role.

He did well with the role. I don't remember. I said that he, he, if he can prove that he can be a consistent runner, which he showed at the house. Yeah, right. But it's a matter of just how many opportunities it's, and to me, the opportunities are about carries. Not as much catches.

Cause I'm with you on the, you know, is he the next James White? See the next Dion Lewis. Lewis had some big years for the Patriots, but White did too. Is he that guy for them? I would say that there's a pretty good chance that he is. I'm worried about the touchdown production matching up, because Ramadri can take that role. And I'm worried about the carries, because Ohio State worked him a lot two seasons ago. And their solution to that problem, because he didn't stay healthy, was get Quinshawn Judkins in the transfer portal and use him as the more physical back and use Trevion as the air back. And, yeah, I just, I think that that's what's gonna end up happening in New England. And I'm, it makes me nervous to go to Round 4 for, for that

H, Adam. for that H, Adam. It's amazing in 17 seasons for Josh McDaniels as a head coach or an offensive coordinator, not including the last season with the Raiders when he got fired, how many times he's had a big bruising running back, a guy like Corey Dillon, Lawrence Moroney, I don't know if we include No-Shan Marino there, Steven Jackson, Steven Ridley, LeGarret Blunt.

I've got a whole list of who they were and what they did. Yeah, me too. LeGarret Blunt, Damian Harris, Sony Michelle, and then Josh Jacobs. Those have been the guys that he's had. And he's had a lot of committees. In 17 seasons, only four running backs have had more than 250 carries.

I don't think anyone thinks Shravan Henderson's getting more than 250 carries. Can he get 70 catches? We had two 70 plus catch seasons from James White under Josh McDaniels. Do you think 70 catches is in the cards for Henderson? Because if he gets that, then fifth round pick would be great, I think great value for him. I think he can. Yeah. All right. I've got white with three seasons of 11.3 touches per game or fewer. Yeah. You got to say Henderson should be a much better rusher than James White because Henderson could just be a just a great rusher. I mean, he was so good at Ohio State. He's a

tough one. I agree. Dave, I'm with you. Like what about the one guy that kind of brings me back is no Sean. Remember those two years of no Sean in Denver with McDaniels. I got 2010 he had 182 carries and 37 catches the year before that much better 247 carries and 28 catches. Right. How many games? 16 games in 20, in 2009. I don't know about 2010. Yeah. I would guess it's not 16 games in 2010, but that's, I think that's the upside case for Trevion is what No-Shan did those years. It was 13 games in 2010.

So I bet the averages weren't too far off. Yeah. Uh, 15.4 carries per game one year 14 carries per game the next year. I whatever again in the weeds. Let's let's say get back to Heath's list after we take a break with one more commercial. We'll come back and finish up here with more of our favorite late round picks so far. I'd like to highlight David Montgomery. I think we've done that successfully. Jerry Judy, Trevion Henderson, and Caleb Johnson.

Those rookie running backs we're gonna like. So we'll talk about Deandre Swift and David Njoku on Heath's list. And then Dave has seven players on his list that he'd like to talk about. And we'll give you some more names. We'll be right back. It's a big night here in Fiji.

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RB 24 12.6 PPR points per game, six total touchdowns. I mean, 12.6 is not bad for where he was drafted, right? Where was he drafted? Let's take a look. The, uh, he was, I'm, I'm thinking the bears are going to add another running back and that'll render the next couple of minutes of what we say useless and he'll end up being part of a committee.

He was RB 20, he was 61st overall. Yeah, that's a bust. He stunk. I mean, nobody was putting Deandre Swift in their lineup confidently, you know? No, no, no, I don't disagree with that, but I didn't realize he was drafted that high. I think the player that

they add will determine how I feel about him. Because if it's Nick Chubb, I'm not going to be so worried. If it's Dobbins, I'm going to be a little bit more concerned. All right. So don't think he's going to be in the Jameer Gibbs role. We'll put a hold on this one here. And David Adjoku, 90th overall, we like that. Oh my gosh. I love it. Yep. All right.

So Dave, let's take a look at your list here. Chuba Hubbard, 51st overall. Xavier worthy 60th in the consensus rankings. Oh, Marion Hampton, 62nd. Patrick Mahomes, 64th. Jamison Williams, 66th. And then later Stefan Diggs and Joann Jennings 92nd. I mean, I love seeing that 92nd overall because in our drafts, like there's no chance Joann

Jennings goes 92nd overall, but I would not hesitate at all to take him there. And Stefan Diggs also 92nd overall, Jennings is 93rd. But you got a couple of chiefs here. You want to start with Chuba Hubbard at 51st. How do you rank Chuba Hubbard with Triple H Double J? He's ahead of, he's ahead of everybody, but Gentie. I think he's one of the safest running backs that you can put on your team. I would obviously rather get him in round four or round five, like the ADP suggests.

But if I will go receiver, receiver with my first 2 picks and he's my favorite running back left on the board in round 3, I'm taking him in round 3. I think that he's, I think he's proven that he's a good running back. I don't mind his situation one bit. His competition for playing time is Rico Daddle and Trevor Etienne. I understand Trevor Etienne. I still think he's going to be the main runner and the high value touch guy in Carolina's offense and I'm happy with what I saw from him last year. I don't think that he's a one year wonder. I just wonder how much they're going to give work to the other guys. Because he didn't have to worry about that at all last year.

And so now, you know, it's not so much doubt, really. It's what ETN's role could be, and just the uncertainty of it. And I agree with a lot of what you said. I wouldn't take him around three. There's no chance. But if Hubbard, he's got hopefully a quarterback that's continuing to improve, a receiving court that's definitely going to get better. So the offense as a whole should get better after what we saw last year where they spent so much in improving the offensive line, which I think helped him a lot.

I don't know if he's, you know, and you brought this up, Adam, you know, based on his track record, like, is he that good of a guy or is he just, you know, benefiting from a great situation? And we've seen a lot of guys like this. And so did they look at it and say, okay, we just need to, you know, worry about our depth because we know Jonathan Brooks

isn't going to play and we get Rico Dowdle for basically nothing and then go out and get ETN to see what he has. Or is it we got Rico Dowdle to play a role and we got ETN to play a role and despite the fact that we paid Chuba Hubbard, we're going to give these guys more of an opportunity to take some work away. I think he's a really good number two running back. I think he's got a chance to build off what he did last year. But he didn't have to worry about competition last year. And so now we'll see what happens if these guys can give any sort

of, you know, challenge to him, and how he hopefully will still continue to sort of keep them at a distance and be the lead guy there on what again should be an offense that's going to improve. It looks like I mean, based on last year, he's got a very Chuba Hubbard is a very good schedule to start the year. Jacksonville was 31st against running backs. Arizona was 26th against running backs. Atlanta was 12th.

New England was 25th. So that's what I want to see from him. I want to see him get off to a good start because I don't want to see you know them say, you know what we should get Rico Dowdle more involved here. He was splitting third down reps last year with Miles Sanders so I think even if he comes off the field on third down, he could still have like a 40 catch season

or something like that over 17 games, be involved enough. But I spoke a lot about Chuba Hubbard last week, I will let it go. Xavier Worthy and Patrick Mahomes being drafted in the 60s. Well, being ranked, being ranked. This is not ADP, this is consensus rankings. We're using that right now because we think it's better than any early ADP.

So Xavier Worthy 60th, Patrick Mahomes 64th. And I just wanna check one thing here where Rishi Rice is. I'll get back to you on that, sorry, but just gonna look at the consensus rankings there. And I just want to check one thing here where Rishi Rice is. I'll get back to you on that, sorry, but just going to look at the consensus rankings there. But all right, go ahead and talk about those chiefs, Dave. Spent a lot of time sitting in the chiefs this week and came to the conclusion that they're good. Ha ha ha, no.

Worthy, we know how bombastic he was in his last six games. If you just take the games he had at least six targets in, he averaged over 15 PPR points per game. If you take out the Super Bowl, which was like, ridiculous, two touchdowns over 150 yards, still got you 14 PPR points per game in those six target games. I see his role developing. I think he ascends. This is the type of wide receiver that mid-round values were made for. And he's, to me, I'm taking a chance on him as a Top 20 wide receiver, maybe even a Top 15 wide receiver, if we learn, eventually, that Rasheed Rice isn't ready to go. Rice had the serious knee injury last year. He's just now started to run at practice with the Chiefs. There's no reason to rush him. It's May. So they don't need to do crazy stuff with Rashid Rice now. And there's always a chance that a suspension comes down and Rice misses time and that would open the floodgates for Worthy to take off. But Mahomes has talked this off season about being more explosive. This is the guy that he can be more explosive

with. We all saw it in the Super Bowl. And so I want to find, I'm trying to identify a lot of these wide receivers who, for lack of better terms, have potential to finish as Top 12 wide receivers, but aren't going to be drafted that way, a.k.a. breakouts, a.k.a. mid-round gold, whatever you want to call them. I think Worthy is going to be drafted that way, AKA breakouts, AKA mid-round gold, whatever you want to call them. I think Worthy is going to top that list for me based on what we saw at the end of last year, further development, the quarterback he plays with and the goals that that offense has moving forward. Absolutely. He was a first round pick that they traded up for. There's a lot to love here. And then you've been pretty high in my homes. I'll skip him because you just, um, on our last episode you talked about why Patrick Mahomes could be the number two quarterback in fantasy

and not ranking it that way, not drafting them that way, but he could end up being that way. But he can't do it without a big year from Xavier worthy, I think. So it's, it goes hand in hand. He could have a big year from rice Brown, Kelsey. I don'ty, I think. So it goes hand in hand. Sure, he could have a big year from Rice, Brown, Kelsey. I don't know. I think he needs that explosive element. That's what's been missing. And I think Worthy is really the only guy that can do that. Maybe Marquise Brown, but come on, I don't think so at this point. I wouldn't count on that. I'm going to skip on Marion Hampton because we're all in agreement on rookie running backs being very good mid-round picks. So Jameson Williams So we're all in agreement on rookie running backs being very good mid-round picks.

So Jamison Williams is so fascinating to me just because he's not, probably not gonna get that many targets. And we just heard his offensive coordinator say he's expecting a breakout year from Jamison Williams. Williams was the number 17 wide receiver per game in non PPR, number 13 overall. In full PPR, not quite as good.

He was number 26 per game in full PPR number 22 overall. And his 17 game pace was only 103 targets. His last nine games though was really good. And Williams was on pace for 115 targets. And he did a lot with those targets. So what do you think Dave about Jamison Williams? Why is he on your list of your favorite mid-round picks? If worthy is the top name on my big bad booty breakout wide receiver list.

Jamo is going to be right behind him. We saw you mentioned those last nine games, I'm going to dial in a little bit more. In his last seven regular season games, he had seven or more targets and six of them. He averaged 15.3 PPR points per game. We knew last August that he was making progress as a route runner, as a, as, as just more than just like a breakaway speed type of player. And we saw it in games. We didn't see it consistently enough. There's a lot of mouse to feed in that offense. But by the end of the year, Jamison Williams started getting more and more involved. I think what Morton said was that he's never seen a guy as fast as

Jameson Williams. So why would he work on moving plays away from him? Uh, and they want to get him even more involved. That's something that I'd like to bank on. I also think that the lions might be in more competitive high scoring games this year than they were last year. And not as many games where they just hand it to David Montgomery and he scores and, and the defense holds up. I think, I think that they could find themselves in a lot of dogfights this year.

And that means more pass attempts. That means more targets, not just for JMO, but for everybody. So I like Worthy better, and I would take Worthy ahead of Jameson Williams. But if I can get Jameson Williams to be my, my No. 3 wide receiver, I would love it. I've got him ranked as my favorite No. 3 wide receiver. He's 25th in my wide receiver rankings. And I would take him round 5. I don't think I would try and squeeze for round 6. I would just rather have somebody with this kind of upside finally break through in what's effectively his second year, because his rookie year, he barely played. And then the year after that, there was a suspension. It's been a mess for him. I think he continues to get better.

So look at this trio of wide receivers ranked in the consensus rankings as wide receivers, 31, 32 and 33, 65th through 67th overall. Jordan Addison, Jameson Williams, Travis Hunter. Jamie, I'll start with you. How do you rank those three? Jordan Addison, Jameson Williams, Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter, Jameson Williams, Jordan Addison.

Dave? Jamo, Hunter, Addison. I like that. I love that though. I mean, the next wide receiver off the board is George Pickens, then Tedaroa McMillan, then Roma Dunze. I feel like I like those first three a lot better than those last three. So that's Addison, Jamison Williams and Hunter. And then the next three is Pickens, Teteroa McMillan and Odunze. You guys feel in the same way?

The only one I don't love is Odunze. I think all the other guys are very similar sort of profiles in terms of, you know, being number two receivers on their teams with some really good number ones and chance for them to still be very productive. You can make certain cases for a few of these guys to, you know, outperform, you know, some of the number one guys. I think he said that one surprising, right? If if Travis Hunter was better than Brian Thomas, he's not ranking it that way. But I know I got a push back on that one but still you know that's uh that's one in terms

of draft capital um that Travis Hunter could potentially be better than Brian Thomas but in any event I think you look at these guys as you know they're they're most likely going to be second on their team and targets. They're still going to get opportunities that we love and hopefully they're going to deliver on it so really Oh!on's Day is the only one that should not be ranked this high. And I wonder how much that will change, certainly based on ADP once we get, you know, that metric that we're gonna use. Does it bother anybody that 28% of Addison's PPR

fantasy points came from touchdowns last year? How much of that was the same for Jameson? I can look it up. You're gonna have to give me a minute, but I can get you that. And don't forget the rushing touchdown for Jameson. It doesn't bother me as much as that the fact that Jameson Williams had six touchdowns of 35 or more yards. And I just, I can't see that happening again. You know, that's so elite. But actually, and in fact, Jordan Addison had five in his rookie year. He had five touchdowns of 35 or more yards in 2023.

And then Addison had only two the next year. So that's, those are both things that, you know, you're looking for regression. For Jamison, it's long touchdowns. For Addison, it's just touchdowns in general. But yeah, what do you got on Jameson? 22.6% which is a lot. And what it was Addison's number? 28% is even more. It's kind of crazy how that works. What we saw from Addison in the second

half of last year was he became a red zone threat for Minnesota. Eight of his nine touchdowns were in the second half of the year. And that really is what helped stepped up his, his numbers. Well, wasn't he, he was hurt at some point in the beginning part of the season. Yes. Uh, Addison. Yes, he was. How many games did he miss? He missed two games. Yeah. And he played, he played half the snaps in week one. So he left week one early. So that, that was the, and also like, okay, 115 targets for Jameson Williams was something I mentioned. That was his pace in the last nine games of the season. That was also Jordan Addison's pace, 115 targets. If

you remove weeks one, two and three, and in, in that game, in that stretch, he made, he played half of week one and this week's two and three. They're very similar in terms of where they are in their respective teams. The difference is that if JJ McCarthy stinks, Addison's probably gonna stink. If JJ McCarthy's Sam Darnold, which is so strange to say,

then Addison should be fine. If JJ McCarthy's better than Sam Darnold, then Addison's gonna be a superstar JJ McCarthy is better than Sam Darnold, then Addison is going to be a superstar. All right. Let's go. It was not touchdowns came in week nine or later. Six of those eight touchdowns were in the red zone. Four were inside the 10. So it's basically like the profiles are very similar because Jameson Williams last nine games as we're talking about here, he was very good. Addison the second season, very

good. Like to me, they're, they're, I don't want to say they're interchangeable because again, I gave the edge to Jameson because of the quarterbacks, but you're still talking about they're not going to lead their team and targets without injuries. They're going to be relying on either big plays or scoring touchdowns or both. And you're hoping in the case of Addison that the quarterback is going to take a step forward. But I think also you got to factor in for Addison, a healthy TJ Hockinson, which he wasn't really until the final stretch of the season. So there's just, to me, the fantasy profile is very similar and I think should be drafted in a similar range. All right. Last one here. You only have one game with 15 plus PPR without Hawkinson. And then five of 10 games with

Hawkinson, he averaged 16.3 PPR points, 13 plus PPR points and seven of 10. If it's the weirdest thing, I think the way to actually put that is if Hawkinson is back to his old self, how does that impact the entire Minnesota offense? Well, it sounds like it's obviously redstone touchdowns away from, from Madison. It sounds like just him being there was good for the offense in general. So there's a big. Oh, that Hockinson wasn't 100%.

There's a big thing we're missing here. And it's this the first half of the season, they didn't throw that much in Addison's first seven games, which were week one, and then weeks four through 10, 29.6 past temps per game. In Addison's last eight games to close the season, 35.5 past attempts per game. So six more past attempts per game and a much more productive Sam Darnold who was on pace for 38 touchdowns

and four interceptions in those eight games. And in that stretch, Addison was great. Jefferson was great. I think Hockenson was pretty good. No, cause he didn't catch a touchdown. Right? He had a hundred and he was on pace for 104 targets and zero touchdowns in those last eight games. But I think that that was kind of,

this was a change in philosophy. They got back to their roots of throwing the ball a lot. All right. Stefan Diggs and Joanne Jennings, 92nd and 93rd overall in consensus rankings right now. These are two players that Dave highlighted as his favorite values. I'm gonna throw a third one in there and I want you to tell me who your favorite value is.

So Diggs at 92, Jennings at 93, and we'll leave the mid-round area for a moment and go to Ricky Pearsall, 110th overall. Who's your favorite value? Diggs 92nd, Jennings 93rd, Pearsall, 110th overall. Who's your favorite value? Diggs, 92nd, Jennings, 93rd, Pearsall, 110th. As we sit here now, it's Jennings, because we don't know if Brandon Iuk is gonna be himself coming back from his knee injury.

We don't know if Diggs is gonna be what he was last year coming off of his knee injury. And we don't know what Ricky Pearsall, we know that he's got a lot of upside. But I we got to hear about it a little bit more first. So it I think just the safest way to play it as a fantasy drafter is to go after Joanne Jennings first. Okay,

to that can change by late August. Stefan Diggs is flying around everywhere. Dude's gonna be the target leader for New England. To just to end the show, I just want to point out and guys feel free if you want to add more names, but rj harvey at rb 28 Uh 81st overall in the rankings Is the one that really stands out to me

Is incredible value going right after jalen Warren. The next pick is or the next guy in the rankings is Quinchon Judkins. But I mean, Harvey, he's going to be such a riot. I mean, he's should be he's mine. I don't know where you are, Dave. But he's my second favorite rookie running back. Behind Gentium, he just the opportunity the team that that he plays for the situation. I mean, I don't know. I can't see him staying in this range. I don't think he'll stay in that range either. I've got Hampton a few spots ahead of him, just because I think I'd rather have the bull running back for Jim Harbaugh than Harvey and Sean Payne. Not that that's a bad spot to be in where Harvey is.

It's a close call. I just think there's more touchdown potential for Hampton. And Harbaugh kept talking about how he views Hampton as a three down player and loves his receiving skillset. That stood out to me. So I'm looking at NFC average draft positions since May 1st. It's not a ton of drafts. R.J. Harvey is RB 23.

He's going 65th overall. That's closer to where he'll go. Yeah. After Henderson, Montgomery, then it's Harvey and Caleb Johnson and then Tony Pollard. But we are all taking Harvey well ahead of 65th overall, aren't we? Not well ahead, but ahead. NFC is tough because it's going to be so super heavy. but yeah, that's the, I think you just look at the RB number. – RB23. – Yeah, I have him closer to like the late teens, but I think anywhere from like 18 through 26 is

where he'll end up going. I think 29 is just a little bit of a stretch. It is funny, we have two comments in the chat back to back. Jenny's just seems like a guy that's going to disappear, followed by Jennings should lead the team in targets. I think that's kind of where people come out on this. And that's why I think Ayuka is probably still being the consensus ranking from the industry ahead of both those guys. Because if he's healthy, let's just say early in the season,

the thought would be he's the most proven of this group and should be the best of this group. I just have a hard time seeing him be a healthy in the season and last year was such a struggle for him when he was healthy that Jennings right now based on all the circumstances plus he's in a contract year I was reading a story out of San Francisco that they sort of clearly I don't think they did the wrong thing but they undersold his value when they gave him this two-year extension that is now going to expire with the thought of Debo still on the roster, Ayuk was going to get paid.

They didn't do anything wrong by not giving their third receiver a longer contract extension, but now he may end up being their best receiver for who knows how long. And then you have Pearsall. I would almost say he's the best value simply because of the three names that you listed, simply because I don't think Jennings stays here. I think Pearsall probably ends up staying in this range. I can't imagine that if we get reports that that Ayuk is going to be out for the start of the season, ends up on the pop list, you know, doesn't, you know, make it for week one or two that Jennings values is a skyrocket. All right. Well, we will follow all the developments for you

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