Fantasy Football Today - Mike Wright of the Fantasy Footballers Talks Le'Veon Bell, Rookies and More (05/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: May 6, 2020We're joined by Mike Wright (@FFHitman) of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. He tries to keep our Miles Sanders expectations in check (3:25) before we get to the big Frank Gore news (11:03)! What does ...this mean for Le'Veon Bell? ... We ask Mike for his Top 5 rookies (17:35) plus why he's excited about Ke'Shawn Vaughn (24:15). Also we discuss rookie WRs (27:53), Amari Cooper (36:30) and Antonio Gibson (44:00) ... Want to know Mike's favorite video games and movies? His favorite Fantasy Football formats? His favorite breakfast food? Enjoy a round of "Hot Mic" (working title) (49:30) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
All right, welcome to a special edition of the Fantasy Football Today podcast.
Today we will talk about Miles Sanders.
He's a little bit too hyped. We'll go through some rankings. Talk about some really old running backs. Welcome to the show, Mike course, the Fantasy Footballers podcast, which is awesome.
On Twitter, he's at FFHitman.
And welcome to the show, Mike.
Welcome to Fantasy Football today.
Oh, man, this is fantastic.
This is really a treat for me to be here.
I've met most of you guys in person and have told you each individually that you guys at CBS really set a standard, in my opinion, for podcasting.
And were a huge part of my life and the way we ended up shaping the fantasy footballers.
So thank you again.
This really, really is awesome for me to be on the show with you guys.
Have you met Heath in person?
Yes.
Oh, wow. How'd that go heath is that i you know we met several times over the course of like a two or three day span
and uh several of those came around a ping pong table ah and uh i like there were probably more
meetings than I recall.
Fair enough.
By the way, you can listen to the Footballers podcast throughout the offseason,
get their ultimate draft kit, dynasty, and rookie rankings,
all at FantasyFootballers.com.
So, you know, before we get into it, Mike, how's everything going?
How's quarantine?
How's this whole situation?
Surviving.
Honestly, the only hard part for this is the kids and the homeschooling.
I am a homebody.
I'm happy to stay here.
The only thing that I miss going out for is food,
which we can still get the old DoorDash and Postmates. So I'm not missing a ton, of course, besides going into the office
and being with the guys and that camaraderie. But other than that, I'm hanging missing a ton, of course, besides going into the office and being with the guys and that camaraderie.
But other than that, I'm hanging in there.
Mike, I got a text message from Adam today.
Adam has a little boy, and he's expecting a second.
And I have three young children, young boys.
And he goes, I don't know how the hell you're doing this.
I don't get it. I don't understand how you guys you're doing this. I don't get it.
I don't understand how you guys are doing it.
This one kid is just wearing me out completely.
By the way, Jamie, thank you for the announcement there.
That was supposed to be a secret, but that's fine.
We'll let the audience know.
I haven't told the audience.
You know that.
Well, now you have.
Now I have another one on the way very soon.
Congratulations.
And the way you do it is you just try and make it to the nighttime
so that you can get some semblance of sleep.
But, yeah, I've got three kids as well.
And, like I said, that's the hardest part.
Yeah, I don't have to worry about the homeschooling yet.
That would make things even more challenging.
All right, let's talk about Miles Sanders.
Our email of the day, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, comes from Travis.
I don't know when he sent this in, but last week we were debating Miles Sanders versus Devontae Adams in the first round of a PPR draft.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you.
I wish everybody could see Mike's face.
Thank you.
I didn't even see it.
That was a completely involuntary reaction, too. you i wish everybody could see mike's face thank you i didn't even see it this is what i that was
a completely involuntary reaction too i didn't know my face was doing something you you had like
like the face of somebody that just walked past somebody farted like that was the face
yeah that's pretty that's a good reaction but yeah i mean i i i am pretty high on mile sanders
some of us would take him seventh overall.
But here's the email.
I feel like the Miles Sanders hype train is getting a little out of hand.
While he was on his late season tear, he played the Dolphins, Redskins, Giants twice, and the Cowboys.
Not real world beaters on defense.
Not to mention the health of their wide receivers.
And Corey Clement was hurt as well.
So the catches feel far from certain.
I just think he's much more of a gamble than you guys are making him out to be
at this point.
He was firmly behind Jordan Howard until his shoulder had the nerve issue.
Anyway,
just wanted to hear your thoughts on this.
All right.
Well,
Mike,
sorry for farting.
So what do you think about good?
What do you think about,
uh,
Miles Sanders?
When would you take him?
Oh man, I feel like I'd be okay taking him. What do you think about Miles Sanders? When would you take him? Oh, man.
I feel like I'd be okay taking him as of right now.
Maybe the third.
I'll take the gamble on him.
He is such a confusing player.
The third round or the third overall pick?
You mean the third overall pick?
Third.
Yes, yes.
Sure.
Let's just get out of control with the hype uh he's such a
confusing player not because of his talent he's a he's an amazingly talented player uh his his
yards per reception was absolutely insane like last year there was only three running backs that
had 40 or more targets and had yards per reception over 10.
Miles Sanders, Austin Eckler, and David Johnson.
There were only three guys to do that.
So smashing efficiency through the air.
But what we've seen from Peterson and the Eagles,
that's what we have to go off of.
It's which story are you going to buy into for Miles Sanders.
Are you going to buy into the talent of Sanders, the fact that he was a second round pick and peterson had not done that yet and then the end of season that
that monstrous workload where he became an absolute league winner if you scooped him up in
the second half or do you do you buy into years and years and years of peterson using three
sometimes four running backs we just we don't, we don't have, we don't have
proof except for the second half of last year where, where Doug Peterson was forced into it.
His hand was forced and it would, but on top of that, like if you remember at the beginning of
the year, Miles Sanders actually had the job. Like he just sucked. was really really inefficient and then Jordan Howard took the job
from Miles Sanders so they did want Miles to be that guy at the beginning of the year so I'm
trying to temper my expectations I do have him ranked right now as a top 12 running back I'm
finishing up all my statistical projections and he's he's sitting in there right now but it's it
is an in inner battle
for me to decide which side of that narrative i'm really going to buy into over the offseason
all right jamie and heath so i i know you guys aren't as high on miles sanders as dave and i are
but do you think he's a first round pick no i i think he's he's in the conversation if it's just a heavy heavy first round on running
backs that's kind of the the way i come out on it but i would much rather get him in round two
i think the one thing that mike said is the doug peterson narrative he's tried to use a guy
the jay ajayi trade the josh adams stretch uh what we saw last year from Sanders, I just don't think
he's ever had a guy. So I think that he's going to use Boston Scott. But I think that's kind of
the positive that we're looking at for Miles Sanders now is they added nothing. If you tell
me Corey Clement is the threat, then I'm excited beyond belief about Miles Sanders. If they still
go out and maybe sign Devontae Freeman,
if they make a trade, if we see LaShawn McCoy,
who says he wants to finish his career there,
as old and decrepit as he is compared to the guys
we're going to talk about as well.
If they just bring in somebody else,
then that makes it, I think, a little bit more of a,
oh, no, here we go again.
But I think that what Sanders showed last year,
what he's looking at from a competition standpoint,
that there's reason to be excited about it.
But I think we have driven the hype train a little bit too far off the
track.
I think it's like,
speaking of farts that make everyone want to leave.
There are like Jamie mentioned Devante Freeman,
but there's still like four of those guys.
Yeah. Carlos Hyde's there. Lam still four of those guys sitting out there.
Yeah, Carlos Hyde's there.
Lamar Miller is still out there.
Yeah, I mean, I was just using any of those guys, sure.
Right.
And so I don't think, if you told me we were at opening week and the depth chart was Miles Sanders, Boston Scott, and Corey Clement was number three,
I would feel like I might take Sanders in the first half of the second round.
I just can't take him over Nick Chubb.
I can't take him.
Was his second half better than Kenyon Drake's?
Yeah, yes.
It wasn't for a longer stretch.
I mean, the second half wasn't.
Your little six-game stretch where we take out the games that we don't like.
No, we take out one game.
We take out week 17 because he left with an injury.
Other than that, it was after the Jordan Howard injury.
I think Drake may have been better at non-PPR.
Kenyon Drake's second half was better than Miles Sanders, without a doubt.
Six games or eight games?
Second half.
Six games, Miles Sanders was the number three running back in PPR.
Six games, but not counting the last game.
Because he left with an injury.
You want me to count that game, Heath?
Like, what, are you kidding me?
So Kenyon Drake's second half was better than Miles Sanders,
and we've seen it from him before,
and he doesn't have any competition either.
So I would, like, the best that I could get to
would be Miles Sanders as my number 10 running back,
and that doesn't make you a first-round pick.
There's probably four to five wide receivers that should go in the first
round.
I want you to tell me that,
that I should not admit that I should not include week 17 and we can move
on to the next topic.
No,
if you're trying to make the point that Miles Sanders is worth the seventh
overall pick,
you better not include week 17.
That'd be ridiculous.
Of course.
Why would I left with an injury?
You got to pick like the seven best games of the season and give me a 16-game pace.
All right.
Let's move on.
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Yesterday. Five episodes
on the podcast on CBS Sports HQ.
We're going back in time. We're looking
at things like the biggest one-hit wonders, like
Justin Forsett, the biggest busts of
all time, like Monte Ball, and the
greatest fantasy teams of all time. We're
doing a draft for that as we
speak. So that's going to be fun. Kind of look back
a little bit and obviously catch up
on anything that's going on in the current world of
fantasy football. Like these two news
items, the Jets are signing Frank Gore to a one-year deal.
They also drafted LaMichael Pirine in the fourth round.
And Marshawn Lynch has been discussing a return to Seattle.
So I'm going to start with Heath here because I feel like Heath's been higher on Le'Veon
Bell, but does this change things for you with them bringing in Frank Gore?
It shouldn't.
I'm going to be stubborn for a minute and just first say, no, I don't want to change my mind because this shouldn't change anything.
But the last time we saw Frank Gore and Adam Gase in the same city, uh, Gore was getting
more carries than Kenyon Drake.
So I, I have to acknowledge this probably changes things a little bit.
I started at a higher place on Le'Veon Bell than I think anybody else in the pod,
so I'm probably, even after this news, going to be at a higher place on Le'Veon Bell than anyone else.
In PPR, I still think he's a high-end No. 2 running back.
In non, he's more of a guy you settle for, a low-end No. 2.
But I don't think Frank Gore is going to come in and catch any passes i still think levi on bell is going
to catch 60 to 70 passes this year i don't think there's any way he has the touchdown problems he
did last year and he's probably going to average like 3.6 yards per carry instead of 3.2 or whatever
so he's going to be better than he was last year, but this hurts the touchdown upside because Adam Gase makes decisions.
I'll just be nice.
So he had – Bell was 12th in the NFL in carries per game,
but Gore comes in 160 carries basically each of the last two seasons.
Nobody on the Jets got any work.
Bilal Powell had 59 carries, but 19 of them came in Week 14 with Bell out.
So you wonder what the workload's going to look like.
Mike, what's your take on this Jets backfield right now?
I'm actually – so I pulled up my projections here.
I sided more with Heath.
I had Lev statted out pretty optimistically.
He was sitting at about running back 12 for me and we
do we do a half point scoring for our projections so i the work was just too much the frank gore
news though for for everything you laid out heath it's like you have you have a connection already
that these these two have worked together, Frank Gore and Adam Gaze.
You were brain draining me actually giving all of your thoughts and responses there.
Where Adam Gaze makes – he seems like he makes emotionally rash decisions sometimes to put it in a kind way, kinder than I treat him on my podcast, which I won't bring that negativity over to you guys.
So it is very possible that Frank Gore somehow comes in,
gets over 100 carries, and takes away the one thing that Lev Bell is good at
for New York, which is just he touches the ball more than anybody else.
And he just threw you threw sheer volume
and that force of will,
that's how he becomes a good fantasy player.
So his outlook is definitely worse today
than it was yesterday.
All right, Jamie, you've got Le'Veon Bell 17th right now.
I think that's a non-PPR actually.
And I don't know if that's updated since the Gore news.
Is he even gonna be a top 20 running back for you?
He's 14th in PPR.
Yeah.
It's hard to still drop it.
I think,
I'm looking at my rankings now.
Is there a big difference,
aside from offense,
but in terms of situation
between him and James Conner,
who you know the Steelers are trying to
lower his workload?
I don't think I could put Le'Veon Bell behind the three rookies not named Clyde Edwards-Alaire.
I'd still take him ahead of Jonathan Taylor and Cam Akers and DeAndre Swift right now.
So that's where he is non-PPR.
Half PPR, PPR, he's obviously got to be higher because I think he said it.
He's going to catch the ball.
I'm sure Mike would agree.
And look, the offensive line obviously got to be higher because I think he said it. He's going to catch the ball. I'm sure Mike would agree. Yeah.
And look, the offensive line is going to be better.
The offense is going to be better because we don't know.
I've said this time and again, how healthy Sam Darnold was coming back from mono.
You know, at what point did he get to 100 percent?
You know, I think the receiving core as a whole with Chris Herndon back and Perryman
and Mims are better than what they had a year ago.
So everything around this offense is better.
It's just a matter of not only is it just Gore,
I think they were going to use LaMichael Pirine in some role anyway
because I don't think Adam Gase wants to give a guy the amount of work
that he gave Le'Veon Bell.
He made that clear last year when the whole fallout with McCannahan,
whatever his name is, the GM that was let go. Yeah. McCann, whatever.
And, you know, the signing, you know, they don't like that.
Like, he doesn't like it.
Does he like Le'Veon Bell?
I mean, there's such a low.
There's such a bottoming out scenario here, though, for Le'Veon Bell.
Like, he has not played well for two straight seasons.
No, I'm saying he could be.
He could just be.
He was pretty bad last year.
He was a bad player.
He just got so many touches.
If he doesn't get those touches...
And by the way,
Frank Gore had four more carries
inside the five-yard line
than the entire Jets team did last year.
So maybe he won't be as unlucky
near the goal line,
but maybe he won't be the goal line guy.
Maybe Frank Gore gets that role.
There's a lot of downside
with Le'Veon Bell now.
There always was.
I don't think you should draft him in non-PPR leagues
or maybe even half PPR before the middle to the end of round four.
And then in PPR, I think he's gone from a round three pick
to, I think, a round four pick.
And if you want to just take upside, then you take those other rookies.
Like, if anybody was – I don't know where you came out on, you know, Mike and Heath,
uh, like Edwards, like I'm, I'm through the moon for him. Uh, you know, so I would have taken him
over bell, uh, without a question, any format. Um, but now I don't think there's a question.
I don't think you can justify taking the downside of bell versus the upside of Edwards.
Yeah. I have Edwards Zolaire higher than higher than Le'Veon Bell right now.
What's funny, though, Adam, to speak a little further to your Frank Orstad,
he did have 11 carries for a grand total of zero yards.
Yeah, he was really bad.
He was really bad.
But yet they still wouldn't trust Devin Singletary.
So weird and frustrating.
All right, so I don't think we have to talk about Marshawn Lynch.
Let's get to more interesting stuff here.
I gave some topics to Mike before the show.
I hope you did your homework.
Here we go.
I'm ready.
All right.
Rank your top five rookie running backs.
You want me to jump in first?
Yeah, yeah.
I'll just let you give the rankings,
and then Jamie and Heath, my bad, will react. You want to to jump in first? Yeah, yeah. I'll just let you give the rankings, then Dave and, or no, Jamie and Heath,
my bad, will react.
You want to call Dave?
Dave's the only person I ever met,
and he's not here.
Oh, man.
Maybe I will call Dave.
Yeah.
We weren't going to tell you,
but he hates you.
He said if Jason and Andy were on,
he was in for sure.
Yeah, I see how it is.
Well, number one, I will shock everyone.
Clyde Edwards and Lair is my number one guy.
The situation is just too fantastic.
And then I have Jonathan Taylor at number two,
so I'm not breaking with the consensus at all.
And honestly, if you feel so strongly about your evaluation of Taylor
that he's going to be your number one guy, that's fine.
That honestly is fine with me,
knowing that you're still about a year away from Jonathan Taylor
really being the guy.
I have Dobbins as my number three guy.
Because we're not talking for this year, are we?
Because we're talking like rookie drafts.
That's the rankings I'm giving you anyways.
All right, that's fine.
I didn't specify, so.
It's rookie time, man.
I was going to leave that up to you, I guess.
So, yeah, sure, rookie drafts.
Okay, well, I'm sure we can figure it out on the fly how I would take them.
So, I got Dobbins.
Then I have, it's tough, man.
It's tough how I line up DeAndre Swift and Cam Akers.
Akers seems like he's in such a good situation,
but because he's lined up to take the Todd Gurley role,
but does the Todd Gurley role actually exist anymore for McVay and the Rams,
or did they
learn a really tough lesson and they learned it like the way that ruined Todd Gurley's
career.
Essentially, they just wore him out.
Do they throw a third round pick from last year, just into the garbage?
Did Malcolm Brown clearly has a ton of trust built up with this team, with everything that
happened last year with, uh, he went out and got an option from i think it was from detroit and the ram said no you we we have
to keep you and he ended up being playing in front of henderson so that's where it's really tough for
me to put that trust into acres i want to buy in i for fantasy i hope he becomes that guy because
we all want superstar running backs i just have a a hard time going all in on
that theory and same for deandre swift who like carry on johnson's not just going to vanish into
thin air deandre swift would he was going to be in a timeshare now they're coming out and essentially
stating verbatim it's going to be a timeshare. So I like those three guys a lot more than I like Swift and Acres.
But Swift is four for you and then Acres five?
It depends on the day.
Yeah, all right.
I'll ask you again in five minutes.
We'll figure it out.
Guys, we did a startup dynasty draft just a few hours ago.
I had been saying that I was going to take Taylor over Edward Ziller,
but this was PPR and push came to shove and I had the choice and I took Clyde Edward Zilaire. Coward. Yeah. You know
what? I think if it were non-PPR, I would have gone with Jonathan Taylor, but half or full,
I'm going to go with Clyde Edward Zilaire. But any comments there, Jamie and Heath?
No, I think he made the right choice.
Taylor went, I think, early second round.
So not too far.
Sorry, I meant comments on Mike's top five, not on Mike's.
No, Mike's top five.
I think this is a dilemma a lot of people have.
It's the top three, I think, are locked in.
You got Dobbins locked in at number three?
I do, too.
Yeah, I think if you're looking for next year, he's going to be the starter for the Ravens.
And that may happen by the end of this season,
depending on how Mark Ingram holds up at 31.
But yeah, I think you're looking at,
you could probably make an argument
for Dobbins over Taylor too,
if you're just looking at situation for next year.
It's a stretch.
But I think Dobbins to me is third.
And then same thing, flip-flop on the final two.
I think Akers is an underrated talent,
just based on what he did at Florida State,
behind a terrible offensive line, terrible quarterback,
just terrible everything for them.
But Swift is clearly the better talent, better prospect,
and he just may have a little bit longer to wait to be the featured guy,
whereas Akers has a clearer path path at least for 2020 and beyond so how much do you like clyde edwards eilir this year
mike uh i i like him a lot i think by the end of the year he will be the guy but this is it's a
situation where his his adp is going to get out control. He'll probably be at least a third-round pick.
He might sneak into the second, and I don't think he will be the guy right away.
I think that Damian Williams has kind of earned the nominal starting role,
and it'll take some time for L.A. to beat him out.
The situation that people want to look to is the kareem hunt year
where hunt was the rookie had the major breakout the problem with that situation is spencer where
was the starter he was gonna be the starter for at least half the year goes out with a catastrophic
injury kareem hunt is forced to the beginning so as as long as Damian Williams is on the roster, I think it will take, you know,
25 to 30% of the season for a layer to establish himself,
especially what do training camps look like in this world that we're all living in?
How much time do they actually get to prepare?
The NFL season, I feel confident is going off, and maybe it's delayed a week or two, but they're going
to make that happen. But what do they allow to happen for training camp can get Edwards
come in and establish that. So but once he gets
the job, then it's then it's absolute wheels up like they
clearly don't trust Damian Williams as much on the ground like he
never got the carry totals that someone like
Kareem Hunt received when he was the feature
back, but
you don't spend a
first-round pick on a running
back to have him not become
your featured guy eventually. Of course,
unless you're Pete Carroll,
then you just throw first-round picks away.
I'm going to go
around the room. I'll go Heath, Jamie, and Mike.
Miles Sanders or Clyde Edwards-Ziller?
Heath.
Oh, Miles Sanders.
Jamie?
I'll still take Sanders for now.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, I'm Sanders for now by a little bit.
All right.
And I've been told that you also like Keyshawn Vaughn quite a bit.
Oh, man.
Yes, I do. Keyshawn
Vaughn, but part of that is
that's the
narrative or my evaluation
coming to fruition
where talking
about him on tape with
Jason specifically, I was like,
I love this guy. i think he's a
fantastic player extremely well-rounded i felt uh the way i i do about von i felt about alexander
madison last year coming into the draft and it seemed like no one would i don't know if anyone's
going to spend the draft capital on von i don't know if the nfl sees him the way I do, but then freaking Bruce Arians saw Keyshawn Vaughn
the way that we saw him.
And so like Vaughn for me, if you're doing rookie drafts,
he does sneak into the back of the first round for me.
It's a tougher road for a rookie running back
to really break through for Bruce Arians.
He is notoriously tough on his rookies.
When they make a mistake, they go to the bench.
Sometimes they go to the bench. Sometimes they
go to the bench for multiple games, but the competition in front of him with Ronald Jones,
Ronald Jones is just not, he's not a natural pass catcher. Tom Brady needs a natural pass
catcher at the running back position. Does that force Bruce to get Keyshawn Vaughn in
sooner than later? These are things that I don't have the answers to, but you can project a season where Keyshawn Vaughn ends up as a top 15 running back.
It's in the realm of possibilities for me.
Where are you putting Vaughn in redraft?
Is he still sixth amongst the rookies, or is he ahead of some of those guys?
No, he'll still be in the back until we get any positive movement uh from tampa bay's camp like we i'm in arizona i'm a diehard cardinals
fan so we watched the rookie season of david johnson and and how frustrating it was to see
this the rookie's the best running back on the team but chris johnson was ahead of him andre
ellington was ahead of him we
didn't get that playoff run the fantasy playoff run until both those guys were hurt even though
David Johnson was doing magical things and like being fantasy relevant on one or two players a
week so that that's that's the downside of Keyshawn Vaughn but the upside is is so spectacular I think
the the difference though is Chris Johnson has a resume.
Ronald Jones has no resume.
So they can force the, okay, we can play the veteran
because he's done something in the past.
You said it best.
They're frustrated with Ronald Jones.
He doesn't do the things that Bruce Arians really wants to see.
I think the one thing about rookie drafts, I think you're right.
Vaughn, I don't think he's going to sneak into the first round. I think he is a
first rounder. It just depends on how many people take those wide receivers ahead of him. But he's
going to be a guy I think that two, three years from now, we could say, man, why didn't I take
him over Acres? Why didn't I take him over Swift? Or, you know, if he clicks to the level of what
he could be. So he's a little bit of a wild card in what his upside could be
because I don't think there's that much downside.
You know, if you're taking him to the back end of the first round of a rookie draft,
you know, again, you're comparing him to –
and I'm putting him behind guys like Ruggs and Jefferson and those guys.
You know, you're comparing him to Mims and Pittman and Claypool,
you know, whoever you want to throw up there in that conversation,
Chenault, all those guys.
But, you know, so if you whiff on him and those guys hit, you know, whoever you want to throw up there in that conversation. Chenault, all those guys.
But, you know, so if you whiff on him and those guys hit, you may regret it.
But if he does hit, man, you could be set for a few years with a pretty nice prospect.
All right, let's go to the wide receivers then.
Rank your top five rookie wide receivers, Mike.
Oh, man.
That was a frustrating night watching the draft unfold because the we've all been very excited for the 2020 wide receiver class but the way I have them ranked
I got I'm sticking with CeeDee Lamb at number one uh landing spot not ideal but
honestly it's I don't know that any of them hit an ideal spot.
So I'm still buying into the talent of CeeDee Lamb.
If you're looking at long-term, at least the way his contract works,
Amari Cooper could be out in a couple years. I'm not saying for sure that's going to happen,
but it's one of those things that you have to balance
when you're looking at a long-term situation.
So I got Lamb first.
I got Judy second. that you have to balance when you're looking at a long-term situation so i got lamb first i got judy seconds uh i have i i've got i kind of go back and forth with rager and um uh and uh jefferson
like the the way that i look at cam acres that running back situation you know it's
i it should be Rager.
Like it should be because his,
his spot is a little bit better than Jefferson. When you're talking about an offense that they will throw the ball 600 times.
If they have to,
he has a really clear path to being the number one guy sooner than later.
And Justin Jefferson's in a low pass.
He's in a low pass offense he's clearly the
number two guy at best while adam theelin is there so that's why i mean it's it should be rager but i
like justin jefferson the player more than i liked jalen rager so i i'm it's a struggle with those
guys and then somehow the first running or first wide receiver in the draft rugs. He's my fifth guy. Cause I just, I don't know what to do with a player who was third on his own team.
Seems like his speed is the calling card and the Raiders just continue to be
obsessed with speed,
but,
but can he really turn into a number one?
Or is he just a player like Deshaun Jackson,
where he's extremely valuable,
very helpful to your NFL franchise,
but you're not counting on D-Jacks for fantasy purposes.
He's had a couple seasons here and there,
but D-Jacks never turned into a superstar number one wide receiver,
and I fear that could be the path for henry ruggs you know it's funny
you keep saying it should be jefferson you're right it should be jefferson the eagles should
have taken jefferson oh man we we had a we do a competition every year on the footballers where we
pick who's you know who's who's going where and i had jefferson going to the eagles
everything was lined up for me and then they just kicked me right in the groin.
I think only twice in the last 10 years has the first,
this is not so much a dynasty discussion,
but the first wide receiver selected finished as the top rookie wide receiver
in that first year.
Right.
So interesting.
Amari Cooper in 2015 and Calvin Ridley in 2018.
And now recently since 2014,
it's been Beckham Cooper,
Michael Thomas,
Juju Smith,
Schuster,
Calvin Ridley,
and AJ Brown.
Those have been your,
your highest finishing rookie wide receivers.
They were selected third,
first,
sixth,
sixth,
first,
fourth,
first and fourth.
There you go.
Um, so all top six, four of sixth, sixth, first, fourth, first and fourth. There you go. So all top six, four of them top four.
And that would mean that if they're all top six,
there were six wide receivers selected in round one.
If you actually go back before that, though,
2010 Mike Williams was the 15th wide receiver drafted.
He was number one that year.
Victor Cruz was an undrafted free agent.
T.Y. Hilton was the 13th wide receiver drafted.
And Keenan Allen was the 8th. So it seems
like they've gotten better drafting wide receivers
in the NFL. But I think
Henry Ruggs went pretty late in the
dynasty startup that we did today, and it just seems
like, guys, people don't
care who the first wide receiver drafted
is. That just doesn't seem to matter
all that much. Not as much as running back,
I'd say. Heath, would you agree with that premise?
And it's based on what we've seen in recent history.
I think it really depends on who you're drafting with.
I know that there are some people, and I've seen them on Twitter,
that have Ruggs as the best wide receiver,
partially because they liked him almost equally to Lamb and Judy,
and partially because R liked him like almost equally to lamb and judy and partially
because rugs went first and like even if they're not the best wide receiver there's a pretty decent
history of the first wide receiver getting a lot of opportunity in year one at the very least
it's going to be so like i just don't know with rugs how they're going to use him if the plan is
we're going to use him outside opposite tyrell williams and they're going to use him if the plan is we're going to use him
outside opposite tyrell williams and we're going to have renfro and waller running these short
area targets and rugs and tyrell going deep that i hate rugs but if the plan is you know hunter
renfro is just a guy and he's already past his prime anyway we're going to put rugs in the slot
and have him do things around the line scrimmmage. Is that a Renfro age joke?
It was.
Thank you for acknowledging it, Adam.
Then I think that Ruggs could be phenomenal.
He could be like Tyreek Hill's rookie year where he didn't really run very many routes.
He just did a lot of stuff around the line of scrimmage and then would go deep occasionally, and it worked really well.
Now he doesn't have Andrew Reid, so that hurts his chances.
Tyreek Hill didn't have that good of a rookie year if you take away the rushing stats, right?
Well, I would presume that they were—like, they're going to give Henry Ruggs some jet sweeps, right?
If they're going to use him in the best way possible.
Yes.
Yeah, Hill had 593 receiving yards, six touchdowns, 267 rushing yards.
That's a ton.
And three touchdowns.
You don't see that very often.
No, but if you were going to do...
Yeah, if you're going to draft him, use him that way.
You've got to be rooks.
Right, right.
So I think that for wide receiver Heath,
seasonal versus dynasty,
redraft versus dynasty is a very different conversation.
So who's your favorite rookie wide receiver
just for this year, Heath?
It's actually the same, and it is different,
but it's the same guy for me for this year.
It's Judy.
I had Judy and Lamb really, really close before the draft.
I liked Lamb slightly more.
I think the landing spot might be slightly better for Judy,
and that was enough to tip it in his favor in Dynasty,
but I still got him back-to-back.
But Judy's my favorite. Now, there are some guys that we haven't mentioned yet that I think have a chance to be the best rookie in redraft. Leviska Schnoltz and Denzel Mims both have an
opportunity, I think, to be the best rookie this year, but don't have anywhere close to,
in my opinion, the same upside as Lamb or Judy.
Does anybody like Brandon Ayuk?
It seems like
he's a fantasy. Not at all. 49ers do.
Kyle Shanahan loves him.
They're great on him, and
I heard from somebody who's connected to the
organization that
they were taking, in order,
at their pick
was 13?
Or they trade down, I forget what they did.
They had 14.
I think they ended up with 15 and traded down.
Yeah, they moved down one spot.
They moved down one spot for the Bucs, right.
So they were taking Kinlaw one, Lamb two?
No.
Kinlaw one, Ayuk two?
When did Lamb go?
Lamb went after him.
They said that Ayuk was the guy they would have
taken if they didn't take kinlaw there and lamb had had not been taken i think only rugs have been
oh you're right it was it was it was kinlaw lamb iuk was the order that they wanted them because
they took iuk at the end of the first round that pretty clearly tells us that iuk's gonna have like
a six-week stretch as a top 12 wide receiver and then completely disappear from the face of the earth
after his rookie year.
And I will take that six-game stretch next year,
and I will say he was the number eight wide receiver.
I already looked forward to it.
I think they moved down from 13 to 14.
They moved down from 13 to 14 because the Bucs moved up one spot,
and then they moved back into the first.
No, their pick in the first round was IUK, their original pick.
They got that from Minnesota.
They did trade up, though, to 25 to take IUK.
Whatever it was.
Their two first-round picks were Kinlaw and IUK.
They wanted Lamb if Kinlaw was gone, is what I heard.
I think they traded back from 13 to 14 and up from 31 to 25.
Sounds right.
Yeah.
Let's just go with that.
All right.
So we've talked a lot about the veteran players who were affected by the NFL
draft.
And I think the one we've talked the most about is Amari Cooper.
And,
uh,
you know,
well,
I'll just ask you,
Mike,
where are you on,
where are you on Amari Cooper?
Have they added CD lamb?
How do you feel about them?
Right.
Uh,
uh,
me and Amari Cooper have had a very uh storied past where
i i just can't buy into amari cooper like he will be great for half the year and he will be bad yes
yes like how many years in a row do we have to see it happen? How many excuses do we have to give Amari Cooper?
Yeah, I get it.
He started out really hot, and then, okay, I guess he was playing with an injury.
But that was this year.
We give him an excuse and a pass every single year.
Clearly, the talent is there, and that's what's so bizarre about Amari Cooper is I have no idea.
I have no idea how he vanishes from games.
But he was still top 10.
I mean, he still finished 8th in non-PPR, 10th in PPR.
That's the problem, though, is at the end of the year,
when you're trying to remember what happened,
okay, let's go look at the final standings.
Oh, Amari Cooper, top 12.
Oh, yeah, man. Adam throws out the final eight games. He doesn't at the final standings oh amari cooper top 12 oh yeah man oh yeah he
throws out the final eight games he doesn't include the final game and then but and then
your your memory starts going of oh man remember how great he was at the beginning of the year
imagine imagine if he did that the entire season and we've done that five years in a row now for
amari cooper so yeah guess what amari cooper is going to finish as a top 15, probably as a top 12 wide
receiver, but he won't be on any of my teams because I've been fooled for the fifth time
of buying into Amari Cooper as he can really get it done now. And like Michael Gallup was pacing
just behind Amari Cooper. And I think Gallup played 14 games,
if I remember correct off the top of my head.
They averaged almost the same amount
of fantasy points per game in PPR.
Almost identical.
Yeah, and you can get Gallup way later.
Gallup's even going to move down,
I imagine, a bit in ADP
because of the fears of CeeDee Lamb,
which I'm not concerned for Michael Gallup.
I think Gallup is still going to be great.
But Amari Cooper, he will finish really, really high,
and he will disappoint you a whole bunch of times,
which a $100 million wide receiver should not be doing that,
and I don't know why he does.
Okay, Rex Ryan.
I know what you guys, I know what you and Heath are talking about at the ping pong table.
So let's play this
little game here. We had a
three wide receiver PPR
draft with a flex, so
pretty wide receiver heavy
last week. It was our first draft
since the NFL draft. Amari Cooper went
36th overall, last pick of round three.
Michael Gallup went
in the middle of round, toward the end of round six, so about 70th.
And let's see where CeeDee Lamb went.
Round eight, two rounds after Michael Gallup.
So you're talking three-four turn for Cooper, round six for Gallup,
round eight for Lamb.
What's your favorite value there?
I would take Michael Gallup there.
I generally don't draft rookie wide receivers and redraft.
I target them halfway through the season once they really start to break out.
With all my experience and research, to me, that's my optimal strategy of how to deal with rookie wide receivers.
Like I said, Amari Cooper is not going to be on any of my teams.
At the end of the third round, that's actually not terrible
for a guy who will win you a couple weeks.
He will also cost you a couple weeks.
So it's the balance of the yin and yang there.
Give me Michael Gallup at the end of the sixth round.
I think something you said there for me is going to apply to all rookies
i'm not sure like once we get down to like july and august with where i expect adps to be even
for the running backs the very top of this class i expect most of this rookie class is going to be
worse than their adp for the first month of the season. Yeah.
Because they're not getting the same exposure to NFL practice that they normally do over
the offseason.
So I don't know that I'm going to draft any rookies, but I'm going to be making a lot
of trade offers for them in October.
Well, Heath, we keep saying that.
You know I'm with you on this, but remember, they haven't fully canceled anything yet.
Well,
they canceled rookie OTAs.
Yes.
Off season.
But that's all virtual now.
Yes.
But I think as long as we have a normal training camp,
that's really what's going to matter the most.
So if we do have a normal training camp,
then I think they still have a shot to be fine.
And I think it really more applies to the quarterback,
probably a little bit, the wide receivers, but I think it's the quarterback
taking in all the knowledge that is really
going to impact the most. I think, though,
that even if everything were normal,
you had the rookie minicamps, you had training camps,
most likely
a good strategy would be to not draft them
and try to buy low on them because
I've said it over and over again, these rookie
running backs don't get immediate work typically
unless they're first-round picks.
And then we haven't really had an example where somebody's been
the last pick of the first round.
And rookie wide receivers typically don't have that big of an impact.
So it could apply regardless of the situation.
It's not a bad idea.
But he said something earlier that I think applies to this as well
is that Mims is somebody who for this year could be the best guy.
Pittman, as the potential starter opposite T.Y. Hilton, could be the best guy.
You know, I mean, Chenault could be the best guy.
You know, if you feel like you've got to get a piece of this receiver class,
let somebody else chase Lamb and Judy or Ruggs or Jefferson or whoever, Rager.
You know, and then you still can get some pretty good players much much cheaper like i'm gonna take antonio gandy gold in every draft yeah he's he's
good man he is good and it's it's you know kind of like you were saying about um people not even
nfl wise maybe falling in love with madison or falling in love with vaughn he went to liberty
you know people don't don't spend a lot of time watching Liberty.
Fantasy players don't spend a lot of time watching Liberty.
How dare you, Jamie?
He could be the starter in Washington.
It's not ideal.
You're a liar, though, because you didn't take him in this draft.
You took Hunter Renfro with your last pick instead of Gainey.
In this three-receiver PPR draft that we did last week.
Busted.
I'm drafting for like five people.
You probably left to go do a baseball podcast at the time.
I think you did do this. I think this was the draft you did for me, actually. Yeah, it was.
All right. You are forgiven.
This is what I get, Mike.
We do these drafts and I get
everybody... I sent
one today. We're doing one on Thursday.
14 people.
They all said yes.
They all said yes.
So now I got to kick somebody out because we're only doing 12 teams or two people out.
Then what will happen is we get to the day of the draft.
I only did this two days in advance.
So we get to Thursday and I'm going to get four people saying, hey, can you make the first two picks for me?
I'm going to be doing this or I'm not going to be able to finish the draft. Can you finish it up for me? I'm going to be doing this. Or I'm not going to be able to finish the draft.
Can you finish it off for me?
I end up drafting for five people.
I don't know which team is mine by the end of the draft.
You could have drafted Gandy Golden for one of them.
He had five opportunities to do it.
I mean, I got three kids running around.
I got one.
You as a child.
Yes, you should be able to manage doing a podcast and making a thing.
Mike, I am going to ask you some personal questions
at the end of the show oh fantastic yeah yeah uh before we do that are there any other any other
you know any other mike knowledge you want to drop drop the mike knowledge like oh there's
something we got there there's something there well you got there yeah i'd love uh love to get
your guys's temperature on antonio gibson uh for from washington
because he was a player that i like scouting him he's fantastic when you throw on his highlight
tape you go like holy crap then you look at his actual measurables of of how big and fast he is
like like wow this is a he is a very intriguing player.
And why didn't he get to play?
Then you have to go like figure out the backstory for Gibson.
And he,
he had some,
some trouble with his grades.
So he wasn't able to get to a D one school was able to finally transfer.
And then,
and then he's playing behind,
you know,
I was Heather Henderson and Paul Pollard.
I think where the guys in front of him,
like two NFL running backs. So once he finally got his chance to shine, Playing behind Henderson and Pollard, I think, were the guys in front of him.
Two NFL running backs.
So once he finally got his chance to shine, he's a human highlight reel.
And I found myself really falling in love with Gibson.
In our Footballers Dynasty League, I took him in the middle of the second round,
even with having picks after that, because I didn't want to take the chance that i wasn't
going to get antonio gibson on my squad because i think the upside is just tremendous so i want to
see how how are you guys feeling about him and what position is he going to play
i think he's going to play running back you know from everything out of washington and you know
they're starting to talk which is going to drive the adP up of, oh, the next Christian McCaffrey because of Ron Rivera and the staff there.
I'll give you another example of a dynasty draft.
So Heath and I are in a rookie-only draft right now.
Adam, I put Adam on the team.
You'll like this.
This is how I like to prank Adam.
I put him on the team because he needed to see the results.
So as a result of that, he gets all the alerts and the emails from the league even though he has no part in it
whatsoever.
I named my team
of somebody else in the league, Will Brinson,
if you know him, one of our NFL guys.
People send Will trade offers
thinking it's Will
and then they say, oh, should we talk to Adam as well
to loop him in? Adam has no part of the team.
He's not even Will's team.
So I have a lot of fun with that.
But in any event.
So Jamie has Will and me making trades for him, essentially.
Yes.
Nice. So I had three picks in the second round.
The fourth pick and then 13-14.
It's a 14-team league.
I thought, okay, I'm going to get one of Moss or Dylan at the four spot.
I took Moss. And then I'm like, okay, there's six other guys.'m going to get one of Moss or Dylan at the four spot. I took Moss.
And then I'm like, okay, there's six other guys. I want to get two of them. Uh, somebody dropped
right. Well, Armstead don't know why, but, um, uh, Gibson was one McFarland was one, uh,
Darrington Evans. So I like, and, uh, Josh Kelly, I was hoping I'll get two of those. They all went.
And when Gibson, when I was like,
man, I want to just, that was the one guy I was like, I don't think he's going to fall.
I tried to make a trade up to get it, get a piece of him. I'm with you. I keep getting more and more
excited about it. I think he's going to be fun. The problem is there's so many guys in that backfield.
Sure. So many guys there. The one that, that I'm actually the most concerned about for Gibson
is McKissick
because I do think that they can use him in a pass-catching role,
and I think that's where Gibson has the best chance to shine as a rookie.
I've been a closet McKissick guy for a couple of years.
But I just think the problem with Gibson is in our draft where he went,
mostly towards the end of that run or right in the middle of it that's okay but even
today as the news was coming out that ron rivera said he had the skill set of christian mccaffrey
i would be very surprised if in the next month his rookie adp is not the first four or five
picks of the second round i wouldn't be that surprised if it's like 2.1, 2.2,
and I think that's too risky.
There's still, he can't start going ahead
of that tier of receivers, for me at least,
where Mims, Chenault, Pittman, those guys are.
If he's going at the very start of the running back run
after those receivers, I'd be more okay with it.
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Mims and Pittman were off the board that's
who i was targeting with my picks and if and if people are just hearing the mcafree comps
people after the nfl draft you need to go watch tape of the way that these coaches and gms are
talking about the players because mckay has uh rivera made that mcarey comp right after the draft. It's weird that it's just coming out today,
but I'd be lying if I didn't say that.
I got a little hyped when I heard him say that.
Oh, I like this player.
You want to call him Christian McCaffrey?
Great, because now he's on my team.
It's like Andy Reid and Brett Veach saying Brian Westbrook.
What? Oh, okay.
So who would you guys, let's say you're in a dynasty league.
Would you rather have Darius Geis or Antonio
Gibson?
Still Geis.
You still believe he can turn
it around? I think if they both
hit to what they could be,
Geis will be better.
I can agree with that.
It's just, will Geis hit?
What do you mean?
Gibson's Christian McCaffrey.
If he hits to what he can pee, it's Christian McCaffrey.
I don't think he's going to be Christian McCaffrey.
The Redskins would find a way to screw Christian McCaffrey up.
All right, let's get personal with Mike Wright.
We have two options for the name of this segment,
either the Wright questions or hot mic.
What would you prefer?
Oh, hot mic.
Yeah, that's pretty easy.
All right. So I know you're a big video game guy.
What are your top three video games of all time?
Oh, all right.
My top video games of all time, Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past.
The Super Nintendo one is the greatest video game ever created.
Then I think I will have to go super smash brothers 64 which i whenever it comes up the topic comes up of smash brothers 64 i let everyone know that
i was the greatest player of all time and i am willing to back that up anytime anywhere
and i will destroy your soul and then third i was a really big LucasArts graphic adventure nerd.
I don't know if you guys have any idea what those games are, but I'll go with, I'll say
the Secret of Monkey Island.
I'll throw that one out as number three.
I've played none of those.
Oh man, you missed out.
You missed out.
Those games were fantastic.
Smash Brothers.
I mean, I've played...
Did I play Smash Brothers?
I don't know.
But Zelda on the original Nintendo is impossible.
I can't get...
I die in like 30 seconds.
It's so hard.
Yeah, you're just bad.
Have you played Smash Bros on so i wouldn't have you played smash bros on the
switch i have not the the last one i played was the we and not even the wii u because i i before
this whole thing i would have groups of teenagers over here playing smash brothers on the on the
switch i was just curious if it would uh yeah you passed He put out a Craigslist ad for that.
Oh, no.
I'm sure it's like even going from the 64 version to the GameCube version,
there was really, really big differences.
I know Heath and I are unified.
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
Jamie, do you like video games?
Are you a video game guy?
Yeah, mostly sports.
Heath and I would say that GoldenE don't know. Jamie, do you like video games? Are you a video game guy? Yeah, mostly sports though.
Heath and I would say that GoldenEye should be on anybody's top three.
But see, the problem is GoldenEye sucks compared to Perfect Dark.
We're just going to have to take your word for that.
Well, I have a question.
Because I was listening back to our interview with Juju,
Smith-Schuster at the Super Bowl.
When you asked him about GoldenEye... I like that you qualified Smith Schuster
because there's so many jujus.
Well, after his comment, I think we have to qualify
everything.
Did he agree with you about GoldenEye when you asked him?
Did I? Did he agree with me?
I fast-forwarded
through it, so I didn't listen to it.
He'd never heard of it.
Yeah, I think he was too young.
I think he was too young.
So, Mike, we talked to Juju Smith-Schuster on Radio Row,
and that night he was playing, was it Gronk in Fortnite?
Who was he playing in Fortnite?
No, he was playing a pro.
Oh, he was playing a pro in Fortnite, right.
So Adam's like, I want to ask him about video games.
I thought this is where he was going with you, the same thing.
And so he asked him about Gold Nines, apparently. He's like, I want to ask him about video games. I thought this is where he was going with you, the same thing. And so he asked him about Goldeneye.
And apparently he's like, oh, yeah, sure.
Yeah, yeah, too young.
I don't know.
We're old.
All right, next question.
What shows are you watching right now?
Oh, the problem with shows is I am a movie guy.
It's hard for me to get into shows.
I guess maybe it's the commitment, and then I miss out, and now all of a sudden there's three seasons that I'm supposed to catch up with.
So I like movies.
What are you doing for three years at a time that you're missing out on three seasons of a show?
Not watching shows, man!
I'm watching the Jordan doc.
That thing, I just inject that right into my
veins yes it is so fantastic so that that would be the only thing i'm watching regularly right
now i just went through all the marvel movies in chronological order and it was fantastic
i highly encourage it no i've seen them all okay. But now they're all on Disney Plus and available here and there.
So it was just – there's tons and tons of small little pieces that you don't remember from Iron Man 2, which you saw 10 years ago.
So the congruency that they've worked in there is actually pretty interesting.
Let's go back to video games.
Yes.
Did you ever get good
at fortnight or were you just too old i have never played fortnight ever it's wow uh there was a time
when it was like when it was really breaking out a couple years ago this is when uh uh you guys do
you know pub g player player known Battleground
There was a few of us playing that
And I couldn't handle that game
It was too slow
Infuriating that all you did was collect stuff
And then
You would just die immediately
I just wasted 15 minutes
So Fortnite kind of broke out right after that
I kept saying I'm going to get into it
But I just never did
Apart from Smash Bros There was a period broke out right after that. I kept saying I'm going to get into it, but I just never did.
Apart from Smash Bros, there was a period in my life when I was going to school in college, and I got really into the fighting game community back when Street Fighter 4 had just come out.
So I would travel around the state, go to tournaments, and there's a big tournament
in Las Vegas every single year called Evo
that I went up to, and I did okay a couple times there.
So when it comes to competing,
apparently fighting games is what I like to go with.
I was going to ask you about Game of Thrones,
but I guess you haven't seen Game of Thrones.
Yes, I have seen Game of Thrones.
Oh, you're in Game of Thrones.
Yeah, the big ones I've seen, no Thrones, Breaking Bad,
but things like The Office.
I think I made it four seasons in
and then I just got overwhelmed.
And so I've never seen the whole office
and people get really, really mad
when you say you haven't seen The Office.
Oh, yeah, it's great.
But like Jamie's never seen The Office,
but he uses all the office gifs all the time.
It drives me crazy.
I think it's so disingenuous. Did you just say gif yeah that's that's it's gifs right oh wait don't don't
disagree with the only correct take adams ever had it is gifs the guy said it's not i don't care
what the guy said what's the what is the first word in that acronym stand for? It's graphic.
Giraffics?
Yeah.
That doesn't even make sense. I agree.
I respect the guy who created it, though.
I feel like you have to respect him.
No.
But he doesn't respect the English language, I guess.
All right.
So I'll ask you a movie question.
All right.
Favorite movie?
Die Hard.
Oh, here we go. Yes. Favorite movie? Die Hard. Christmas movie?
Yes.
Is Jerry Maguire a sports movie?
Yeah.
How is Jerry Maguire not a sports movie?
There's hardly any sports in it.
Think about it.
But it's about sports. It's not about sports.
It's a love story about a guy whose life involves sports.
It's about love.
It's his love story.
It's not a sports story.
Mike, listen. Forget everybody else that's here. Forget everybody else that's here. All right. Just's about love. It's his love story. It's not a sports story. Mike, listen,
forget everybody else that's here.
Everybody else is here.
All right.
Just me and you.
Listen,
I can't,
I can't make the offer,
but if you know,
things ever don't work out at the footballers and we need to replace the
host again,
I can't make an offer.
All right.
But we,
we,
we,
we're on the same page with a lot of the stuff here.
So,
you know,
we,
we would love to have you just think about it.
There's no sports.
I have an audio production background, so I can handle all the responsibilities.
Your favorite fantasy league format is what?
So like 2QB.
What would be your favorite league format?
I like three keepers.
My favorite format is three keepers, and it's a half PPR, one flex league.
No super flex no i mean it's i like the concept of
super flex of how we're you know restoring balance to the quarterback position but i don't think you
need to like our game is fantasy football our game is not the nfl and i will take all the loopholes
and i like it's the quarterback streaming situation is just very fun to me.
I'm going to the waiver wire.
I'm putting it all on the line right now,
saying that Daniel Jones is about to go off against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
and nobody wants him.
Scoop him up.
I'm throwing him in my lineup,
which you can't do that nearly as much when you're in the Superflex.
Heath and Jamie, I have one more question,
but I'll let you guys go for it if you have anything no um i think you guys are big into foosball correct oh yes oh yeah
we are the fantasy footballers are big into all table and rec games so like if you want to
get destroyed at foosball or shuffle shuffleboard we're over here look us up it would be hard for me to be
worse at anything than i am at zelda but foosball might be that thing i don't know how are you bad
it's impossible dude it's so hard i die like immediately like you in fortnite or whatever
whatever you were saying pub g it's just you said 15 minutes it's 30 seconds for me i'm just like
screw this i'm playing playing Punch-Out.
The very best thing we could do for
Twitch is just stop doing these things
where we talk to each other about fantasy football
and you just stream getting
your ass kicked at
Zelda over and over and over
again. I'm happy to do it.
Shaggy B could set that up.
Alright, last thing then.
He would leave out the first 30 seconds
and only count the 30 seconds
that we survived.
There are no next 30 seconds
is what I'm trying to explain.
Rank these three things.
Pancakes, waffles, French toast.
Oh, that's a simple question
I've had to endure many, many times
and it's great.
French toast is the clear 101.
It is dominant
and I will take waffles number two. Pancakes, while good, It's great. French toast is the clear 101. It is dominant.
And I will take waffles, number two.
Pancakes, while good, it's an easy third where these restaurants, they just want to give you pancakes.
That's how they value them.
You want unlimited pancakes?
Please take them.
Take the pancakes away from us.
Meanwhile, French toast, that's a delicacy, man.
You go to Cracker Barrel, get some of Mama's French toast.
Oh, man, you will not be productive for the rest of the day, but it is delicious.
That doesn't sound like a good food. If it's that heavy and you're not going to be productive for the rest of the day.
You are the worst.
The worst.
Yeah.
That doesn't sound like good food. I mean, you are the worst. The worst. Yeah. That doesn't sound like good food.
I mean,
you have some pancakes.
You feel great.
They're delicious.
You move on to your next activity.
Go eat your tofu.
Go eat your tofu.
There's a reason why you're 135 pounds.
But yeah,
it's because I'm eating peanut butter and jelly every day.
It's quarantine time.
All right,
Mike Wright,
thank you so much for coming on.
By the way,
if you want to see the face,
the fart face that he made
when we talked about Miles Sanders, just go to his Twitter profile,
at FFHitman.
That's fair.
Yeah, right.
It's basically that picture.
And listen to the Fantasy Footballers podcast.
Thanks for coming on, dude.
I appreciate it.
Anything you want to plug, go for it right now.
Ah, man, just the podcast.
If the CBS guys aren't getting it done for you,
we got a show with the fantasy footballers.
No, we're all good.
We can exist in the same space at the podcast land.
Really, really thank you for having me on, guys.
A lot of great podcasts out there, fantasy footballers,
right up there at the top.
That's Mike Wright, Jamie Eisenberg, and Heath Cummings.
I'm Adam Azer.
We'll talk to you on Friday with some Dynasty Talk.
Until then, see you next time.