Fantasy Football Today - Mock Draft Review! (01/10 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

FOLLOW THE MOCK DRAFT HERE: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/fantasy-football-early-2024-ppr-mock-draft-results-recap-pick-by-pick-analysis-unique-strategies-more/ To display your continued support of the show, please vote for Fantasy Football Today in the Sports Podcast Awards in the "Best Fantasy Betting and Gaming Podcast" Category https://www.sportspodcastgroup.com/sports_category/fantasy-betting-gaming-sports-podcast/ Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts The Titans fired Mike Vrabel and we'll discuss that plus other big news items to start the show (2:30). Plus, if you were a head coach, which job opening would you take (8:00)? The Commanders have a lot of intrigue, but the Chargers have Justin Herbert. What about the Falcons? ... We reveal the Fantasy Awards winners (11:30) for MVP, Biggest Bust, Best Waiver Wire Add and Comeback Player of the Year. Then we get into the mock draft with the best picks (19:15), worst picks (23:25), riskiest pick in Round 1 (28:15) and positions we were OK to wait on (33:00). We talk about Kyren Williams, Mark Andrews, Mike Evans, Josh Downs and more ... Revealing each pick for the first five rounds (37:50) and then we review our teams (1:00:00) and strategies ... Email us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. With the first pick in the 2024 fantasy draft, Chris Towers selected Christian McCaffrey. We're going to talk about our first mock draft of the 2024 season. Tyreek Hill was after that. I'm not going to spoil everything, but I do think it's pretty clear, guys.

Kyron Williams is going to be the lightning rod in fantasy football. He's going to be the controversial one that everyone's going to be arguing about for months. So we'll start doing that today. All right, cool. What's up, Dave, Jamie? Yo. Why is he the controversial one? for months. So let's, we'll start doing that today. All right, cool. What's up, Dave, Jamie? Yo,

why is he the controversial one? I think he's easily the most controversial first round pick. If he's in the first round. Uh, right now. I mean, he might be somewhat controversial, but I think a lot of people are excited about what he was able to accomplish.

And if no one of significance is brought in, he's going to certainly be in the conversation. Yeah. I took him in the first round. I took him 12th, but it was tough. It was, it's going to get a lot of conversation going,

you know, it did get a lot of conversation going. And there were some people that thought that that was way too low. And some people thought that he went way too high. So I agree with you. I think that for now, he's the most controversial pick of the first round. I always like when we do our

mock drafts because the person on the end who has to make the double picks, how it could... Oh, I think if you took him at 13th. Right, sure. It was Garrett Wilson, right? In fact, actually, I think I'd rather have...

I could have easily taken Garrett Wilson 12 and Kyron 13, but, you know... Well, when I wrote the recap, I was like, oh, this is cool. We got three potential top 10 quarterbacks going in round 11, but Chris Towers took Brock Purdy and George Kittle back-to-back, and he took Purdy first at last pick around 10. Exactly. All right, so we'll get into that a little bit later, plus some news from around the NFL.

And we're giving the Fantasy Awards. We gave you the nominees on Monday's show. We'll tell you who won today. The big news, the Titans fired Mike Vrabel. Their GM, Rand Carthon, also did not rule out re-signing Derrick Henry. But Carthon came from the 49ers organization, so you're going to see

Bobby Slowik, who's with the Texans, but from the 49ers. You're going to see his name. I forgot the offensive coordinator for the Dolphins. Frank Smith. Frank Smith, thank you.

Such a complicated name. I can never remember Frank Smith. His name will be connected there. But, you know, Rabel's out. Honestly, I don't know how much time, whatever. We'll spend how much time, every time you want. But Sean Payton did not rule out Russell Wilson returning. Josh McDaniels could go back to New England.

And if you look at Mac Jones in 2021, that was by far his best year. So it is possible that Josh McDaniels could be a real boost to the Patriots offense. Keenan Allen says he wants to stay with the Chargers in 2024. Dave, I just told you about the Titans, the Broncos, the Patriots, and the Chargers. What do you want to talk about there? Let's start with the Chargers because they've got an interesting salary cap situation. They're one of five teams that's like 60 million something over the cap. And they could get right under the cap real quickly if they just cut Mike Williams and cut Keenan Allen. But they restructured Keenan Allen's deal last year. I would imagine

they would do something similar there. But Mike Williams is the one that i bet they let go it's it's kind of mean because he tore his acl but 30 years old and they can save 20 million bucks on the cap if they let him go he had uh keenan allen arguably his best season he was top five per game jamie at such an advanced age i'll be 32 yeah yeah i'll, he'll be 32. So that's amazing. He's one of three receivers this season to average over 20 PPR points per game. And so, you know, kudos to him for how he performed. And, you know, we talked about this prior to the season

about receivers age 30 and above. And between him and Mike Evans, it was a fantastic season for both those guys. You know, we can certainly debate about the performances and injuries as well with Cooper Cup and DeAndre Hopkins and Devontae Adams, you know, three other prominent receivers that were age 30 and above and how they performed.

But for what Keenan Allen did and probably means to Justin Herbert, and I would imagine would mean to whatever coaches coming in to lead those guys, they would love to have a player like Keenan Allen, certainly at a reduced cost, but to love to have a player like him around to help ease the transition

of what the next phase of this receiving corps looks like. Because they whiffed, at least what it seems like on Quentin Johnson. And hopefully, you know, he's able to have a better second year and beyond. But right now it looks like this receiving core is a disaster. If Mike Williams, even back, not ready, but 30 years old, coming off an ACL, 32-year-old Keenan Allen, and, you know, a struggling, you know, rookie receiver like Quentin Johnson.

I agree. Rank these three for PPR in 2024. Keenan Allen, Tank Dell, Devontae Adams. Everybody at home, do the same. Dell, Allen, Adams. Allen went first of the three in our mock draft, 25th overall. So it's interesting because I'm finishing up the list of our top 12 wide receivers that will be published on Wednesday. And Heath is the only one to have Keenan Allen ranked in his top 12. Adam, you were actually the only one to have both Texans receivers in your top 12. Only three people had Tank Dell ranked in their top 12.

Nobody has Devontae Adams in their top 12. So of this group, Dell, from our seven people who did this exercise, Dell is the highest, then Allen, then Adams. Yeah, I think it's pretty ridiculous that I didn't put Keenan Allen in the top 12. Doesn't he deserve it? Because he's top 12 per game.

He's not top five. This was just a strangely great year, but he's top 12 per game every single year in PPR. And he is going to be 32 that's crazy but showing no signs of slowing down and well he showed a big sign of slowing down you know yeah missed four games yeah he did i never like to speculate on this stuff but they were out of it justin herbert wasn't playing so i do you know you have to wonder about that like actually who that happened with uh two years ago um hopkins hopkins yep thank you

hopkins um so yeah but but he was so good and i feel like young players get hurt all the time too you know so i'm gonna take tank dell over him coming off major surgery uh you know not for an acl or anything but for a broken leg i i think it's a little crazy if he ends up back with the Chargers, you know, and then I think you compare him to a guy like, like, geez, I was gonna say Wes Welker, not Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Julian Edelman, who aged very well and put up great PPR numbers, 100 catch kind of kind of seasons at in his early 30s. And I think that's what the profile of Keenan Allen's kind of looks like. So it may be a player like Keenan Allen can withstand age, you know, better than a different type of outside physical receiver.

Cause he's just getting over it. It's interesting. And we'll spend a lot of time on this as off season, but like, you know, when you were talking about your quarterback, putting a quarterback in the top 24, when we talked on Monday, like in, in this case, you don't have to have Alan ranked as a top 12 guy, but if you feel like he's safer and still has the same type of upside,

this is the type of player you can pivot to. If you're just like, okay, I'm I'm, I feel like I'm stuck. Yeah. All right. I'm going to ask you guys a question.

Then we're going to move on here. You're a head coach. You're the hottest head coach candidate out there. Everyone wants you. The Falcons, the Chargers, the Panthers, the Titans, and the Commanders have offered you the job. Which one are you taking? Atlanta.

Run down the teams one more time. Falcons, Chargers, Panthers, Titans, Commanders. Yeah, I think it's either Atlanta or the Char the chargers i would say that i'd the owner would be the tiebreaker and i would say atlanta see i'd go to atlanta because you get to reshape the quarterback position you know hopefully in in a way that would benefit the playmakers there it's a division that's clearly wide open that you could walk in and win right away and have you know a lot of young talent locked up for, for several years.

Plus as a defense, I think that can, that can certainly be competitive to win now in the playoffs if they get another piece or two. Um, so that, that's the easy choice for me. I think if you're looking from like,

you know, what Dave said with the owner, like as bad as the Panther situation, this, those guys are getting paid for a long time. You know, that's true. You're, you're pretty much set no matter if you last a year or you last,

you know, hopefully, you know, a long tenure. Sure, but you'll get paid similarly from Atlanta. You just might do more work in Atlanta than you might in Carolina. You want to talk about reshaping the quarterback situation, though. The commanders are definitely going to be able to do that. They have the second pick, and they have the most cap space in the nfl so that is another one that's that's pretty interesting i think i read today that would actually be second for me um of the the teams that you listed unless you want to go to the chargers just because you're tied to justin herbert uh but

yeah you know you have the chance to you know maybe get caleb williams if you want to make a trade with chicago or if chicago has other plans uh drake may sit in your lap if you want to make a trade with Chicago or if Chicago has other plans. Drake Mays sitting in your lap if you decide to go a different direction or the team at one goes a different direction. It should be better ownership. I think people forget that there's no more Daniel Snyder. The culture there and everything about that team is definitely heading

in the right direction. Who's forgetting that? Who would forget that? There isn't a single Commanders fan that's forgotten that they're not the commanders fans but i think the general public may may not realize like there's the the the novice fan may not realize that there's there's a better situation there will be better opportunities to win because i think the the the allure of that team will be there as opposed to teams maybe not wanting to go sign there as free agents outside of you know chasing

money um i i think it's interesting you you know, that, that Ben Johnson's name is getting linked there. You know, I, we, we, we probably would have said a few months ago, no, no, no, stay away. But because of the ability to draft a quarterback and, you know, hopefully spend some money on the right spots, it could turn around quickly and could be a good fantasy situation as well. Hey, if you're not busy, you're not doing anything busy, Grizz. Go vote for us on sportspodcastawards.com. Thank you, Dave. Sportspodcastawards.com.

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or you can do the QR code on YouTube. The Fantasy Awards, who won? Let's find out. Our Fantasy MVP, we asked you on Facebook. We got a lot of votes, so this is good stuff. Our candidates were McCaffrey, both Rams guys, Kyron Williams and Pukunukua, and Dak Prescott. And this was the landslide runaway biggest blowout of all of them. And who do you guys think won the fantasy MVP?

Should be Kyron, but I think it might be McCaffrey. It was McCaffrey. 72% of the votes. 72%. And I agreed with it. That's who I voted for. So I was surprised at the margin.

But it was the four games missed, I think, from Kyron that gave it to McCaffrey easily there. So congratulations, Christian McCaffrey. You are our fantasy MVP. Biggest bust. We had Mahomes, Bijan, Pollard, and Stefan Diggs. And now I, of course, you know how I work. Like I do a game show, I screw up one of the rules. I try to get a mock draft.

I invite too many people. I always mess up one detail. I don't pay attention. I left the option, I forgot this was even an option, on Facebook when I did the polls for people to add more poll options themselves. So any of the people in the group could have added options. And they did add one. And that person actually won.

But the four that we gave were Mahomes, Bijan, Pollard, and Diggs. Of that group, who do you think won with 33% of the vote? Pollard. I'll say Bichon. It was Pollard. Pollard had 33%. So he's sort of the unofficial winner. Now, there was a write-in candidate

that got 36% of the vote. And I don't remember if I put non-injury related, but I think you could make the case either way. Eckler. Eckler got 36% of the vote. He was so bad when he was healthy. So I don't know. Who should we give it to, Pollard or Eckler?

So what I did for the story for the all-bus team, I said I had to play, could only miss a minimum of four games. And he missed three. Yeah, I think he's a... That's all he missed was three? I think he wins then. I think we got to give it to Eckler.

We got to respect the people's vote. Yeah, I think you've got to give it to the people. He had a good week one. He got hurt in week one. He really didn't put it together except for a three-week stretch in the middle of the year. And then after that, mostly Dudsville. And if the people want it, I'm glad that you left that open.

You should do that next year. I guess so. Let people add other options next year. Why should it be up to us on who's nominated? Let them nominate too. Eckler's a good choice. All right. Best waiver wire ad.

We had Puka, Kyron, Love, and Purdy. And this was a runaway to 55% of the vote. Two? Kyron. Oh, yeah.

Kyron. Was it Kyron or Puka? It was Kyron. 29% to Puka. That's what I thought. And I will say, five people said Sam Laporta. We didn't put him on there

because he was drafted in a lot of leagues. But shout out to Sam Laporta. And comeback player of him on there because he was drafted in a lot of leagues, but shout out to Sam Laporta. And comeback player of the year, we had Brees Hall, Raheem Mostert, Dak Prescott, and Joe Flacco.

Brees Hall, Raheem Mostert, Dak Prescott, and Joe Flacco. One of these guys got 51% of the vote. Who's our comeback player of the year? You were saying it's got to be Brees Hall. I think, though,

if people didn't interpret correctly, they may have said Flacco just because he may be the actual NFL comeback player of the year. I would have voted Mostert. Mostert was second at 32%. I don't know what he's coming back from. I don't even get that. But sure, Flacco is the winner. And yeah, Brees Hall only got 7% of the vote.

Tied with Dak. Flacco, 51%. He's our comeback player of the year. And yeah, Brees Hall, he got 7% of the vote tied with Dak. Flacco, 51%. He's our comeback player of the year. I think it's ridiculous. He played what? Five games?

Six games? Five games. Brees Hall was like the number two running back in fantasy or something like that. Whatever. You all are wrong,

but you are entitled to be wrong. Thank you very much for voting. Much appreciated. Thank you for voting on Facebook. If we take only the polls, right? So take out the Eckler-Ryden winner.

I think everything we suggested did not come through except for Kyron as the way or where guy. Because I think we said Monday that it should have been Williams as the MVP. I was on McCaffrey. I MVP. I was on McCaffrey. I did say I was on the camp. You said McCaffrey.

Um, the biggest bust. Well, we had that. We had Pollard. I know, but we didn't, but we didn't get the one that everybody, right.

We did. Right. You were saying Brees Hall should be the comeback player of the year. And we were saying that Kyron would be most likely where we are. Yeah. Nobody agreed with that. Oops. All right. We'll take a break. We'll come back and talk about our mock draft. I'll give you a few more news items from around the NFL and we'll get into our mock draft right after this. What does possible sound like for your business? It's having the spend to powers your scale with no preset spending limit. More cash on hand to grow your business with up to 55 interest-free days.

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It's easy. It's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Welcome back. Okay, a few news items real quick. The Chargers interviewed Kellen Moore for their head coach position. Mason Rudolph's going to start for the Steelers. TJ Watt

is out. The Steelers could get two safeties back when they lose at Buffalo this weekend. Everyone on the Dolphins defense is injured, basically. But Jalen Waddell and Raheem Mostert were limited. Christian McCaffrey is expected to play next week and the Cowboys, it seems like

cornerback Stefan Gilmore is likely to play. We'll talk more about the games tomorrow. Mock draft review. All right, I have five questions for you here. And by the way, if you want to follow along with the mock draft. Oh, we got an offensive coordinator firing. Oh yeah, who?

Luke Getze has been relieved of his duties. All right, any reaction there? There's a lot of sentiment that if the bears are going to move on from justin fields they should move on from that eberflus as well and just hit the reset button across the board if they're keeping eberflus it's probably a sign that they're going to stick with justin fields so you can sort of it's not necessarily tied together but this is a potential sign that um eberflus might be able to keep his job right when's the last time you saw an offensive coordinator fired and then the head coach gets fired right after.

Right. Okay. That seems rare. And so if this is the move that the Bears are making, this is their reaction to the season, then that means Ibrafluse is staying. And that, I would imagine, would greatly improve Justin Fields' chances of staying.

Okay. So the results of this draft are available on the website. I will put a link in the episode description. If you're listening, I've already done that. So you can click on that. You can follow along with the draft. 12 teams, full PPR, three wide receivers, and a flex. No kickers, no DSTs.

All right. So what was the best pick of this draft, Dave Richard? I have two, but one of them was my pick. So I don't want to give out my pick. I will say that the best pick went to Heath who took Josh Allen in round four, just a total call back to when we were devaluing the quarterback position two years ago, refusing to take them too soon, and then just getting amazing value. And Josh, it was like late round four, too, when Josh Allen went. So I think that that was the best pick of the draft. Okay. And an unlikely one that anybody will see in any of their leagues next year.

Well, we'll see. We'll see how people react to what was a very even distribution of fantasy points among quarterbacks last season. Jamie, what was the best pick in your mind? And I was jealous of it when Dan took Tajay Spears. I was so torn on Ramondre Stevenvenson and spears i'm like you know if if anybody's looking at total points you know i don't know how people were sorting this because we were doing it without really a draft room per se um a a legitimate rank list to follow of of

the full list of players and so i was like oh maybe i can get spears one round later let me just see if i could sneak him through and i like ramond because I think he'll be undervalued this year as well coming off the injury depending on who the coach and quarterback is there for New England. But still has an opportunity to be a very good fantasy asset. And then sure enough, Dan got – and he was boasting and bragging about I'm going to take this player all the time. He's going to be a round three pick next season.

I don't know if he'll get that high if he's even the starter there for Tennessee. But, yeah, he got him in round six. I took Stevenson in round five. I'm sorry. No, it was round six going back the other way. I took Stevenson around six. I was hoping to get him around seven. So it was great pick by Dan and I was buyer's remorse with Ramondre Stevenson. Okay. Are you saying now that if you could do it again, you'd take Tajay Spears over Ramondre Stevenson? No, I'm not there yet, but I do think if he is the guy for Tennessee,

depending on some of the changes that they make, he was fantastic in limited opportunities this season on a terrible team. And I think that they will improve their offensive line. Can't get any worse. We'll see if Will Levis is their guy. It looks like that's the case. But a lot that I think you'll be excited about with Spears

if he's the number one running back for Tennessee. Okay. Oh, my best pick, I think maybe Dave was going to say this one, Mark Andrews, 59th overall. Right. Loved it. Late round five pick for Mark Andrews. There's no way he's going to go this one mark andrews 59th overall right loved it late round five pick for mark there's no way he's going to go that late he's he might he might play in the playoffs like they're

going to start getting him back on the practice field soon well and they don't play this week so it's going to be like seven weeks since he broke his leg so he might play in the playoffs and then have as close to as normal of an off season as you can imagine. And then there'll be back next year. Right. No way. He's going around five. That was,

that was a, that was a fluke. He went after Kyle pits. That's wild. That's a, that's crazy. Well, I mean,

if again, if you're projecting and get a new coach for Atlanta that knows how to use Kyle pits the right way, he might have the most upside of any tight end. Yeah, I think that Andrews does have some concerns. He played nine healthy games, and in six of them, he had four to six targets. This is still a team that really didn't throw much at all.

And they added Zay Flowers and Beckham, and I do think he saw a little bit of a target crunch. We'll see if they bring back Beckham. But Flowers is going to have a role, obviously. And then, like, does Isaiah likely just go away? He was so good. He was. You know, you have to wonder, does he have an increased role?

Does that take targets away from Mark Andrews? So he could have a target crunch next year that we haven't really seen before. Okay. Anyway, moving on. But still the best pick good job dave and i called dave yesterday because he made two picks right before me that got me so mad and the second time i in my car yes i was in my car i cursed at dave i said you know screw you dave only but only more worse than that. Anyway, worst pick. Dave, you can start here.

What was the worst pick? This is another one where I had two. I'm going to take the guy who actually went higher. It was Kenneth Walker in round two. I thought that that was a little too soon for a running back who had, I think it was like six games. I've got it right here. He had six games with 15 plus PPR points,

six games with 10.7 or fewer PPR points, and another three games he missed or barely played in. I know that he's got great potential because of the breakaway runs, but we for sure saw him lose passing downs work and third down work to Zach Charbonnet. And toward the end of the year, we saw him losing goal line work to Charbonnet. And I just can't help but think that there's not going to be anything that changes this offseason that's going to make us say, oh, okay, we can be back all in on Kenneth Walker as a second-round pick.

So I still love the talent. I just wouldn't take him in round two. All right, Jamie, what was the worst pick for you? By the way, I'm sorry. This was not on, I said it like it was on Jamie's team. I was asking these guys overall worst pick. So yeah, Jamie, overall worst pick

in this draft. I didn't like Mike Evans in round two where he went. That's a good one. It was, what, Tony? 20th? Little too soon for me. Like, you can debate how good he'll still be. We'll see who the quarterback is there.

But it feels like you got away with what Mike Evans was able to accomplish this season. And to be chasing that another year that early, I just didn't like it. Well, he's a free agent so there it's i i think he's gonna stay in tampa so i would imagine being with baker is the most likely outcome but still a chance that he could move on to a different team you know does does kansas city figure out a way to get their hands on him would you take him in round two if he's the number one target for patrick mahal i don't know if he would be the number one receiver for Patrick Mahomes. That's true.

Okay, my worst pick was also Ken Walker, but I also had Josh Downs. He went with the second pick of round seven. I just don't know that he really justified that, and he had a nice connection for a little while with Gardner Minshew. Remember, they're going to have a different quarterback next year who's not going to throw the ball as much. Well, what if Pittman's gone and it's another rookie? Yeah, I mean, look, then fine.

But you've got to keep Pittman. So this is a tough draft to do. You have to sort of take your own stances on players and where they're going to be next year. We draft Devon Achan 14th overall. Who's to say Raheem Mostert's not going to be better than him next year? But we don't expect that. We don't even know if Mostert's going to be there. You have to make these decisions at this point. So I'm just assuming Pittman's going to be back with the Colts. Young receiver, he should be back.

There were a few times just in the draft room where i know people were like oh that's a great pick to other other people who made those selections and so you know if you look at dan's team i think that was kind of his approach um in certain spots like he took kelsey in round three that doesn't necessarily speak to i'm taking younger players with upside but the value of travis kelsey in round three and dan's mind i'm sure was hard to overlook but i know he was excited about spears clearly based on what he said. And if you just look at some of the players that he drafted, he drafted Josh Downs, who could be the number one receiver there for the Colts. I don't think anybody thinks that's a great situation for what would a number one receiver be. But in that spot, if he is that guy, that's about the range will start to be considered

in PPR. We start three wide receivers. He took Quentin Johnston, who could be the number one receiver for the chargers, or certainly somebody that could take a step forward. He took, um, Michael Wilson, who could be the number one receiver for the chart, you know, the Cardinals, you know, there's lots of different scenarios that could unfold where these guys aren't necessarily the type of ideal number one guys, but I know like, that's how Dan thinks. Cause he also was like, oh my God, uh, you did such a great, uh, you had such a great pick with Chase Brown. You know, when I took him, who could be the number one running back for the bangles you know so um just putting myself in dan shoes that's i think the approach that he took he's looking for yeah potential guys

that could step forward in in the upcoming season yeah i think you're probably doing not no i like josh downs no disrespect but you're i think you're doing anthony richardson a disservice if he's your number one wide receiver i just don't think he's your number one wide receiver. I just don't think he's a number one guy. And the point I was going to make, he went two spots ahead of JSN. And if I'm going to gamble on a number two receiver there, sorry, if I'm going to gamble on a year two receiver there, I'm definitely taking

Jackson Smith and Jigba ahead of Josh Downs. Yep. All right. Next category is biggest risk in the first round. And the first round was McCaffrey, Tyreek Hill, Lamb, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Brees Hall, Bijan Robinson, Amonra St. Brown, Amonra St. Brown, Jameer Gibbs, back-to-back Lions, A.J. Brown, Jonathan Taylor, and Kyron Williams.

What's the biggest risk, Dave, in round one? I think you could make the case for any of them being a risk. The two that I think you can make the easiest case for, one is McCaffrey, just because he's the only old man in this group. And 28 years old playing running back, like eventually there's going to be a year where you know what's going to happen. And then the other one was A.J. Brown. And I know that taking wide receivers in round one, it's definitely a great strategy. It's one that I'm trying to work hard on converting to

and promising myself that I'm going to take a wide receiver in round one. But as good as he was and as much fantasy production as he gave you before the end of the year, I still think the Eagles want to be a run centric offense. One that certainly, you know, what's going to happen when they get inside the five, when they get at the one. And I, I just, I worry a little bit about AJ Brown getting back to 17 PPR points per game, 18 PPR points per game being worth that first round pick and the drop off from that

range of where Brown might fall short of to other wide receivers. I mean, that litters round two to get a bunch of receivers that can get you 16, 17, 15 and a half PPR points per game. It's more than just round two. So to me, it's Brown with McCaffrey is an honorable mention. Yeah. I, I love AJ Brown there. I think he's still going to be an absolute alpha dominant wide receiver. He's shown that in two seasons for Philadelphia. And I don't think that changes as long as he's healthy and as long as Jalen hurts is healthy. So to me, that pick was absolutely 100% the right spot. If not, you know, a couple of picks higher, uh, it's Kyron Williams.

I mean, look, well, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll jump to the, the, the biggest talking point here. If he gets any sort of competition, can he still be that guy? Do the Rams still decide to feature him the same way? I think you should be hopeful. I have him on a couple of dynasty leagues. I'm very excited about Kyron Williams going into 2024. But can he do that again for a guy that was barely used in his rookie campaign? And did he just prove to be the best guy on the roster and ran away with the opportunity?

Can he do that again or is this going to be another damian pierce james robinson type of guy that you know not a lot of uh not the best draft profile coming into the league took advantage of a situation and then eventually gets replaced yep 4.65 40 yard dash and i know some people don't care about that but that, but that's just not a great indicator, and it doesn't lead to a lot of success. It's 40 times that slow, fifth-round pick, Kyron Williams, and one thing I noticed about Kyron, I shared this with Dave earlier today, his schedule was really easy. If you look at yards per carry allowed to running backs he did not face a single team that finished top 10 in that category and in 12 games he had eight opponents that were bottom 10

in yards per carry allowed to running backs compare that to rashad white rashad white faced one team all season that was bottom 10 in yards per carry allowed to running backs. Kyron Williams faced eight of them in 12 games. Rashad White faced seven teams that finished top eight in yards per carry allowed to running backs. Kyron Williams faced none. So it's a very imperfect stat because at different points in the year, teams are better or worse against the run. Like his week one, he faced the Seahawks. Seahawks were really good against the run, and he had a good game. But at the end of

the year, the Seahawks were terrible against the run, and they finished bad. But at that point, they were like one of the best run events in football for some reason. So it's not a perfect stat, but he had a very favorable schedule. Well, he's also in a perfect situation. You know, I mean, no real backup to take him off the field. Great play

caller, um, you know, offensive line that got rebuilt on the fly essentially, and was, was very good, you know, so those things should still be there for him again, unless they decide to bring somebody else in, but you know, the Rams, we know what their draft capital is, uh, how they operate. Um, I think they kind of learned their lesson in terms of spending money on that position. I don't think they'll do that. So they seem to have their guy. It's just a matter of how much will he still be there. I remember before he had the ankle injury,

I think it was ankle injury, they were talking about using Ronnie Rivers more. Yeah. All right. One more question, and then we'll get to the results of the draft. Position you were okay waiting on, Dave? Quarterback. Jamie?

Pretty obvious. There's more than enough to go around. I mean, I got Evan Ingram in round 10 and Jordan Love in round 11. Right. So you tell me I get players of that caliber that late, I'll do that 10 out of 10 times. Right. I got Jake Ferguson, I don't even know what round, one of my caliber that late, I'll do that 10 out of 10 times. Right.

I got Jake Ferguson. I don't even know what round for my last picks. So I was going to, honestly, I think the answer to this question is every position except wide receiver. When you look at some of the running backs that went right now, I mean, Tony Pollard, 60th, James Connor, 61, Swift, Mostert. These are all in round six. Ramondre Stevenson, Javante Williams, Speostert. These are all in round six. Ramondre Stevenson, Javante Williams, Spears, Montgomery at the end of round six.

Eckler, Najee, Brian Robinson, Derrick Henry. Seems like pretty good value there. While you're there, I guess we could look at Zach's draft from the 10 spot. And he went receiver receiver receiver tight end with his first four picks and that was aj brown chris olabe brandon now you can trade mcbride who you can make a case that's three top 12 wide receivers that's the you know how several people have them right i think dave has all three of those guys in the top 12 if i'm not mistaken um and mcbride is you know going to be in the conversation to be the number one tight

end certainly a top three option going into next year. So he hit home runs on all of those picks. Then it's a matter of, do you like his running backs? And so he went four running backs in a row after that with Joe Mixon, Raheem Mostert, Derrick Henry, and Jalen Warren. And I think a lot of people would puke when you hear those names as the group going into 2024 based on what we think is going to happen to them. Now, Mostert's 31, Mixon may not have a team. Henry may not have a team and Warren may still be behind Najee Harris.

So he could have done some different things in those rounds. He could have, I think, if I'm not mistaken, taken Ramondre Stevenson over Mostert, which is something I would have definitely done. Could have taken Najee Harris over Mostert, who at least finished the season strong. And am I reading it right that

he could have taken montgomery too no uh yeah yeah like after he took most stevenson giovante tajay spears david montgomery they all went he could have taken pollard and so if he has if he has let's say montgomery and and stevenson that looks like a hell of a team right now you know if he has those those four options and then he waited in the quarterback that he decided on was Tua. So, you know, however you want to view Tua going into next year, like that's an, that's a fantastic build from the strategy standpoint.

You know, how he executed it may not have been great with the running backs that he took and maybe not taking four, he could have taken three and then another receiver mixed in there to have a maybe better flex option. But that's a, that's a great build. If you just want to attack it, it's not necessarily zero RB, but it's a, you know, close enough way to start it that, you know, you're, you're hitting home runs on your three receivers. You hit a home run on your tight end. At least you hope so you still get a

good enough quarterback. That's got top 10 upside. And then you just hope that you get a couple of running backs in there that can make your teamwork. This is exactly zero RB. You're going four picks without a running back. And then, and then you're hammering semantics and then you're, you're getting some running backs who are veterans. And, and that's what you're counting on. He's hoping that of the guys that he got, two of them can start for him at the beginning of the year.

And then he's got work to do. He's got to find a running back off the waiver wire at some point in the year, maybe several times to go and fill in that spot. He, in theory, the whole idea behind zero RB is you're getting wide receivers who you're going to hit on, who aren't going to miss time with injury and who, who are going to basically carry your team while hoping to just strike on one running back that can match those wide receivers. And then another one, whether it's one for three weeks, one for four weeks, whatever, that just help you along the way. So it's a great strategy. I think he did a phenomenal job with those first four picks. Okay. We're going to take a break and we're going to look at the results of this mock draft when we come back on Fantasy Football today. Okay. The results of our mock

draft. Let's start with round one and And not a lot to talk about here. We already talked about A.J. Brown and Kyron Williams. We have two Detroit Lions in round one. And if I had taken Garrett Wilson, 12th instead of 13th, we would have had two New York Jets. McCaffrey, Tyreek, Lamb, Jamar Chase, Jefferson, Brees Hall, Bijan, Amon Ross St. Brown, Jameer Gibbs, A.J. Brown,

two people with Brown in their last name too. How about that? Jonathan Taylor and Kyron Williams. On to round two, Garrett Wilson, Devon A. Chan, Chris Olave, Puka Nakua, Ken Walker, who we already decided that was too early for him, Nico Collins, who did go before Tankdale, about a round. DJ Moore.

Mike Evans. So that's probably a little bit too early for him. Travis Etienne. Saquon Barkley. Stefan Diggs. And Michael... Hitman! All right, so again, round two is Garrett Wilson,

Devon Achan, Chris olave pukunukuwa ken walker nico collins dj moore mike evans travis etn saquon barkley stefan diggs and michael pitman it is nothing but running backs and wide receivers jamie your reaction around two i mean kind of what you expect you know the the receiver value is going to be fantastic in this spot you know um give or take a few of the players that were drafted there, but, you know, you're looking at, uh, you know, the running backs that were in this round, you know, save for, you know, Ken Walker, like I would, I would prefer Pacheco over him. I would take James Cook over him. I would take Rashad white over him. So, you know, you put those guys and I would

take all those guys over Barkley as well. Um, you put those guys, you know, potentially in round two, you know, you could see that happen, but get used to the fact of, you know, this is probably the earliest you'll see quarterbacks go. I hope people learn their lesson and don't reach for, you know, my homes or, or Josh Allen, you know, I'm not going to say who it was, but we had somebody who we, we, I did at least, you know, talked out of taking my homes in the first round, you know, maybe, maybe you know, someone who's not necessarily used to drafting very much,

but that if you really want Mahomes or you want a quarterback, you could probably get them in round two or later, in this case, round three or later. So Dave's right, we won't see Josh Allen in round four, but I do think in most of the experienced leagues, we will start to see quarterbacks fall into the third round. Typically, you see those guys go quarterbacks fall into the third round. You know, typically you see those guys go in late second,

early third. I think now we'll start to see them mid third into, you know, the fourth round in some cases, but, uh, going to be very heavy on running back and wide receiver in the beginning part of the draft and the first year.

Okay. Let's go to round three. Keenan Allen, get a little older here. Keenan Allen and Travis Kelsey. Actually, you know what? Let me give you some real quick rapid fire round two questions. Rapid fire.

Michael Pittman, top 24. Yes or no? Today, yes. We'll see after free agency. Late round two is fine in full PPR. Who do you like better, ETN or Barkley? ETN. Same.

Do you think Olave deserves to be a top 15 pick? Absolutely. Close to it. Okay. He hasn't really justified it yet. And you could obviously say the same exact thing for Garrett Wilson, who went 13th, but obviously you know why I'm taking Garrett Wilson there, Aaron Rodgers.

If you Azerstat it and take the 11 games where Olave had eight or more targets, he averaged 17.1 PBR points. Well, I would never do that. That's not how you Azerstat it. No, I'm serious. Azerstat it with Derek Carr's shoulder injury in the game that he missed.

That I would do. Yeah, but he just like, I don't know. He doesn't score enough damn touchdowns. And I just blame Taysom Hill for it. But, alright. I like Olave. We all like him. Would you like him better if, how old is he going to be? 32-year-old Taysom Hill isn't on the roster?

I don't think Taysom Hill is on the team next year. I don't think he's on the team next year. I love Taysom Hill, by the way. And they phased him out at the end of the season. Taysom Hill is my favorite player, just so you all know. Good. He'll pick up on the Giants. I hope he will make any team better.

He's terrible for fantasy. He will make any team better. Okay. Let's go to round three. Keenan Allen, Travis Kelsey, Sam Laporta. Stop right there. Did we get that right? Kelsey won, Laporta too?

No. No. Who's won. Did we get that right? Kelsey won the Porta too? No. Who's won? The Porta won for you? Yeah, assuming that he's healthy and he has a semblance of an offseason. He takes part of training camp. He would be my number one tie down. I would take McBride over Kelsey too.

In full PPR, I get it. Tank Dell, James Cook, Rashad White. Jamie took him there. I thought that was a great pick. Oh, I was thrilled with that. Rashad White, middle of round three. Cooper Cup, Devontae Adams, Isaiah Pacheco,

Brandon Ayuk, Debo Samuel, back-to-back, and T. Higgins. I, you know... I was surprised with the Higgins pick. Hmm, me know, I was surprised with the Tee Higgins pick. Me too. I think that was, that was my pick. I think that's when you typed,

I would love to get a live camera of Adam tilting. Cause the clock was running down and I, well, I mean, we obviously had a big discussion on Tee Higgins and, uh, I can't imagine you loving him there if he's the second guy in Cincinnati. No,

I do like him there. If he's the second guy in Cincinnati, if they just run it back, I think about where T. Higgins has been the last couple of years where we were taking him right around 18th last year, middle of round three as a very, very safe pick that didn't have elite upside but had a very high floor. And I still think he can be that if he's the number two in Cincinnati which I think is the most likely thing there I'd actually prefer him be the number two in Cincinnati than be the number one on a bad offense you know I don't want yeah like Carolina right right exactly I don't want him to be the number one in Kansas City well he could so you know there's there's upside there

but be a number one in the chart for the Chargers I did this draft as if T Higgins is going to be the number two was going to be the same I the bangles are going to run it back with burrow chase higgins not nixon necessarily and i think higgins is a good pick at 36 because he wasn't going there last year he had a strange year burrow had a strange year i don't really know what to make of it i think it's worth the gamble there at 36 but it took me a long time to make the pick so you know you know, I was sweating that. Yeah, well, you didn't like it? You didn't like it there?

No, I don't think it's a bad pick. I would have taken Rice over him for sure. I think there's more upside right now. And you can argue Devontae Smith is in a better spot if you're just talking about number two receivers. And I get you're probably negative on Smith. Then you just sort of, you know, start to look at how the board unfolded. Like, you know, Metcalf,

we crapped on him again and he had another solid season and should be fine. You know, if you're starting to project out Zay Flowers and what he might become, you know, after what we saw this season and the wild card to me, and I thought it was a great pick by Thomas was Drake London, because again, new coach, new court, new, new coach, new offense, new quarterback, hopefully. And you're just unleashing these guys. And we've seen some, some solid performances at times for

London. Imagine what he could be if he's getting, you know, 150 plus targets from, from a competent quarterback, he could be an absolute stud and we could be talking about him as a second round pick. So, you know, those guys, again, if you're projecting out, I know you're looking for, you know, a safe floor with a potential high ceiling. The ceiling play might be those other guys. And floors could be Devontae Smith type of guy, DK Metcalf type of guy, similar to T. Higgins. Ceiling, though, to me, probably favors Rice for sure and a guy like maybe Flowers and even Drake London. There's an easy scenario where Rice doesn't have that ceiling, and that is they bring in a legit number one receiver.

Sure. So that hurts Rice. The next pick I made was Jalen Waddell, by the way. I took him with the first pick of round four. I definitely think Jalen Waddell has a ceiling, a high ceiling. He's an explosive player. So yeah, obviously Jimmy got into round four. The question

I would have for round three, Dave, just real quick is Cup and Adams. Too risky or just right? I mean, we got Ke round four. The question I would have for round three, Dave, just real quick, is Cup and Adams. Too risky or just right? I mean, we got Keenan Allen there, too. We have three receivers in their 30s now. Allen, Cup, and Adams in round three. I think there's a lot that can change with all three of them.

I think the situation that's least likely to change is going to be Cup staying in L.A. And is he going to be the 1 A or the one B with Puka? That's going to be interesting to figure out. But Devontae Adams, I don't think is a lock to stay in Las Vegas. And I don't think Keenan Allen is a 100% lock to stay with the Chargers. I might put Allen as a higher percentage to stay with his team and for his situation to be the same than Devontae's.

But I'm going to put Allen at the top of that list for now. Devante second and Cup third. I think this is the round for all three, but Cup is going to be toward the back. I think he should potentially go anywhere from 35 to 40. Okay. All right. Let's go to

round four. Jalen Waddell, Rasheed Rice, Zach Brooke took Trey McBride, third tight end off the board. Devante Smith. It's funny now. If you remember that group of receivers at the end of round two and into round three last year,

it was Waddle, Devante, Higgins. I feel like Olave was in there too. I think Olave ended up being ahead of them by the time. And then Calvin Ridley for us. But anyway, Waddle. He was ahead for me.

Waddle, Smith and Higgins all moved down. I felt like we were taking Olave at like 20th overall. Yeah. I'm pretty sure his ADP was behind those guys though. Yeah. Overall, I agree. But like within the last like two weeks of draft season, you don't think Olave made a jump?

No, I think you're both right. I think Olave, we started maybe taking him earlier, but his ADP was just behind those other guys. But they all moved down, right? Well, not Olave, but Waddle, Devante, and Higgins, they all moved down. Let's see. Oh, and I know what it was.

Those were the three guys who were the number two options on their teams. Kind of interesting. Alvin Kamara goes in the middle of round four. Drake London, DK Metcalf, Zay Flowers, Josh Allen, Amari Cooper, Jalen Hurts, and Jordan Addison. So we already know the quarterback's coming off the board here. We like that.

Late in round four. What about the year two receivers who go here, Jamie? Zay Flowers, eighth in round four, and then the last pick of round four, Jordan Addison. I love the Zay Flowers pick. Again, what you saw from him, certainly after Mark Andrews' injury, and I think that shows the Ravens and shows Lamar that he can produce an alpha number one receiver, which is how he was drafted. So, you know, going back to the Mark Andrews conversation, you brought this up, Adam, you know, can Andrew still be that guy for Baltimore? I certainly think he's got the chance to be a top tier tight end, but I don't know if he's going to necessarily dominate the passing game work and the production in the passing game like he has in years past because of what Flowers should be able to bring to this offense. So I love that selection in round four.

Addison to me is a little bit of a reach because you still have Jefferson there. It's the same concerns as he was as a rookie. The only thing that may help him a little bit, and granted, he was great. I don't think this is a, and we're nitpicking, so we're like round five, round six, maybe at the latest for Addison, is where he should go. But in terms of where's his high-end potential, he's never going to be the one. You don't know the quarterback situation right now. And then if Hawkinson is 100% come week one, he's still at that factor also. So it just felt a little bit too soon for Addison,

especially some of the guys that went behind him in round five. That's the thing I think you look at. There's some guys that went after him. Like I like Jaden Reed better than Jordan Addison. Personally, I was thrilled to get in and run five. Agreed. Uh, he averaged 12.4 PPR points per game in the first five weeks of the season. That's when cousins was healthy. Jefferson was playing. I think Jefferson got hurt in that week five game, if I recall, and his best numbers came after that with Cousins and no Justin Jefferson. You'll remember the game against the 49ers for Addison. For Flowers, he just ended last season so strong.

And you can't help but think that he's going to be able to pick up from there and maybe be like one of the best breakout wide receivers in fantasy in 2024. So completely agree, totally on board with Zay Flowers as the top 50 type of pick. I'm going to have to update my, my research. So few examples of wide receivers on offenses that are bottom five and pass attempts, finishing top 12 and PPR.

And I, I don't know if I like, where were the 49ers in past attempts, I wonder? But it just doesn't happen very often. So. You ask, I tell. Yeah. Go ahead.

Yeah, give me 30 seconds. I got it. Oh, they were last in past attempts? Wow. That is, did you realize that? The 49ers threw the fewest passes in the attempts. Wow. That is, did you realize that? The 49ers threw the fewest passes in the NFL.

I guess that makes sense because they were so efficient. They were the most efficient team like ever, basically. But, now you have their coaching staff

or their, their tree littered around the NFL. Through week 17, the two teams that were lowest in pass attempts per game were the 49ers and the ravens yeah how about that 29.1 yeah so okay well well actually where did let's see where uh

just curious where did debo and iuk finish in fantasy points oh neither of them finished in the top 12 in pPR. In points per game, they did. Yeah, in points per game, did they? They were both over 15, just barely. No, they are not top 12. Well, no, they're not. They are for 18 games, for 17 games. No, I don't. If they are, it's just barely, but I don't think so.

Yeah, it's just barely. They're just inside. Lamb, Hill, Keenan Allen, Amonra St. Brown, Jefferson, Puka, AJ Brown, Nico Collins, DJ Moore. That's nine. I'll skip Mike Williams. Mike Evans, 10. Tankdell, 11.

Jamar Chase, 12. That's what I have. I have Debo, 13, and Ayuk, 14. They finished both with more points per game than Tankdell, who's at 15 exactly. And that includes Week 18. All right. Okay.

Anyway, moving on to the next round, we'll do the next round. Then we'll take a look at our teams here, but around around six, around five, around five, I think we haven't done around five yet.

Around round five starts with a pretty interesting pick. George Pickens, 49th overall, Josh Jacobs, Nick Chubb, Terry McLaurin, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Reed, Calvin Ridley, Kyle Pitts, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Mixon, Mark Andrews, and Tony Pollard. So round five, picks 49 through 60 are Pickens, Jacobs, Chubb, McLaurin, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Reed, Calvin Ridley, Kyle Pitts, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Mixon, Mark Andrews, Tony Pollard.

How many of those names did you make the face that's the fertile ground to go and target a quarterback especially if you're getting somebody like lamar mahomes in that range the answer to your question for me is only pits for sure and And maybe, I mean, I didn't like Pickens there. And I didn't really like Jaden Reed as much. I know Jamie, you liked it, but go ahead. You like, you loved your Jaden Reed pick there. Oh, for sure. I mean, you know, he finished more points per game than, than rice.

He was only, he was second in terms of rookie wide receivers and points per game. And I think just scratching the surface, especially if they're going to use him, like, you know, I've been saying like baby Debo Samuel, um, you know, giving them opportunities to get carries and throwing the ball to him as well. And you saw in the games when he was featured in the passing game with, you know, eight plus targets, you know, go back to the Minnesota game in week 17, he was a superstar, you know, so there there's a lot to love about getting pieces around Jordan love and not that I planned it this way, but to have that Packer stack was, was, was kind of enticing to get Jaden Reed and Jordan Love to

have that, you know, as a, you know, um, sort of happened organically for, for a redraft league, but, uh, looking at the receivers around him, uh, I think you can make a case. McCorn is still better. I don't know. I'm not going to necessarily fight you on that, especially if the right quarterback is brought in there. I like read better, but you can make a case for McLaurin. I would take him over Calvin Ridley, knowing the situation for Ridley may not be in Jacksonville, and who knows where he ends up playing. Going ahead to the receivers after that,

I like him better than the guys in round six. I won't get there to spoil it for you. And I would take him over George Pickens also. I think there's just a better, at least right now, quarterback situation for the Packers and for Jaden Reed. So I love the setup for him. This was another one I was actually debating in round four. I was like, you know what, let me take Metcalf.

It was between Metcalf, Flowers, and Reed. I couldn't justify taking Reed over those guys. But I do like the fact that he was still on the board and was sitting there. I'll just go back to one other pick in this round. Josh Jacobs in round five is an absolute steal. We have no idea where he's an absolute steal. I agree. We have no idea where he's going to play. I think people don't realize that he's younger than Barkley.

He's only 25. Um, still has his age. 26 season is coming up. Uh, it's still, I mean, it's, it's great.

No, I agree with you. He's, he's right in his prime. Um, we'll see if the Raiders, you know, work out a deal with him or,

or franchise tag him and how that all plays out again. Uh, but wherever he and Barkley go, it's going to be kind of fascinating because they still have enough to offer that they can be superstars still. You know, Jacobs had a down season by comparison certainly to where he was two years ago, and coaching change, quarterback, all those things matter for him. But even if he comes back to the Raiders, you're talking about a guy that should, worst case scenario, should be probably around three pick.

Maybe creeps in around four, depending on how receivers go earlier, but still has top 10 upside. And so just writing the running back story, you can see it on the site of how all seven of us rank them. He's not a top 12 guy for me. I think he was for about three or four of the seven of us. No more than 10th. Nobody had him higher than 10th.

But still a guy that offers plenty of upside. Like he he's, he's, I think he'll be 13th for me when I start to, you know, break it down, but, um,

want to see where he ends up. But round five is just way too late for him. Agreed. A hundred percent. He's he's 12th for me. And I'm going to, I'm going to draft him on the assumption that he's going to get me 14 PPR points per game, because as a rookie,

14.1, then 14.3, then 14.3, then 14.1. Again, break out your last year contract, your 19.3 this past year with all the, the crap that he went through and the slow start, he still averaged 13.9.

So I'm willing to say that that's a guy 14 PPR points per game. That's not round two material. It's really not round three material, but once you get into round four, I think he's a good pick. I was happy to get Mark Andrews in this round, but the two guys that I really wanted were the guys that Jamie talked about. It was Josh Jacobs and Jane Reed and pretty much everybody else in this round

outside of the quarterbacks. I made the dirty diaper face for a lot of dirty diaper faces in this round. I think my hang up on Reed is I wish we had seen the great production come with Christian Watson on the field and to a lesser extent Luke Musgrave. They were both hurt. Tucker Craft more or less filled the shoes of

Musgrave. So that's not a huge deal. I think also to that point though Adam, Jordan Love wasn't playing at that level that he was at at the end of the season either. Yeah, Jordan Love was on fire and Christian Watson was out. And Jaden Reed benefited from it. And I just wanted to see. Hopefully we get, you know, I think they could easily win this game.

I hope Watson plays this week and they beat the Cowboys. We can get two games where both of those guys are playing. I think Jordan Love is just sort of an equal opportunity quarterback. He does not. I don't know that he's ever going to really feature one guy. We don't know enough about Jordan Love is just sort of an equal opportunity quarterback. He does not. I don't know that he's ever going to really feature one guy. We don't know enough about Jordan Love yet, but he kind of showed a pattern of changing his number one guy, which is great.

I mean, good for him. That's a big trait for a quarterback. Yeah, that's awesome. But, you know, is that going to hurt the fantasy options there? So that's my hang up with Reed, but pretty exciting what he did as a rookie. Really good stuff. I'm super excited about it. He averaged 17.4 PPR points per game in his last

eight. And yes, a lot of that was without Christian Watson there and everything else. But I think the Packers have realized, okay, Dobbs is solid. He can come through in the red zone. Watson, when they have them is a big play threat they don't have to necessarily wedge Watson into being that number one wide receiver Reed is their number one wide receiver I think it's I don't know about that no I think it's I think it's a Francisco situation I really do I think it's it's very similar to how those guys will operate again you know similar coaching philosophies from LaFleur and Shanahan and how their offenses perform and I don't think it's Jordan Love has to say okay I got to get Reed 10 targets or Watson 10 targets to have those

guys be productive you saw it you know you could say Watson yes he's he's a he's a difference maker Dontavian Wicks was producing Bo Melton was producing you know so and Reed was still getting the job done so if you're just taking targets to other places, that's where those targets for what Watson come from. It's not necessarily coming from Reed. It's not like he was just saying, okay, Reed is getting all this work and he can't operate with somebody else on the field. Again, Watson's an upgrade.

At least you hope so over those other guys. And the reason I think Reed has more appeal than Watson, you've seen two seasons. Now this guy having a hard time staying home. Yeah. And so that's a big negative for me, uh, that he can't stay on the field while reed was fighting through injuries fighting through a chest injury fighting through an ankle injury and coming back and playing and producing and helping this team make the playoffs he also could line up anywhere which i i think we saw that from dobbs as a rookie but reed did a better job of it reed was in the slot reed would work in short

range reed would work on downfield shots. Like his versatility is off the charts. And he's one of my favorite Packers receiver. He's one, he's one of 10 receivers on the Packers that Matt LaFleur is compared to Devante Adams. Okay. So I,

I'm going to look, if you want to see our teams, you can just check out the story on the website. It is again, links in the episode description, Jamie, you took an approach with the sixth overall pick. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Your first nine picks are running backs and wide receivers.

And then you took Evan Ingram in round 10 and Jordan Love in round 11. So that's, I think we're going to see a lot of that. My guess is we're going to see a lot of that from you. Oh, totally. It's funny because with the quarterbacks, for example, there were essentially four that I was targeting. I was kind of waiting to see, knowing you, which of the ones you were going to take as your second quarterback,

and you did. You took C.J. Stroud. So kind of how the draft was unfolding, I was like, I think I'm going to end up with one of Stroud, Purdy, Love, or Kyler, and I'm thrilled with all of those guys as a number one option. And so just the way that the board fell, I was like, okay, this is the right spot to take. And I was kind of debating once I got through round nine, okay, which position should I take first? And like Evan Ingram just got way too much upside.

Like he fell way too far. You know, so to take him knowing that the Jaguars, you know, quarterback or receiver situation could be, you know, sort of turned over once again. Um, he was just unbelievable in the second half of the season and, you know, a hundred catches is hard to overlook for, for that position. So he fell way too far. So I don't think that necessarily happened. So if it was, let's say Ferguson or, you know, Kittle fell too far also, you know, so when I was looking at, at the position and Goddard's too, youard's too, those four guys were like, okay, I'm fine. So take the best available there. And then it was, okay, at that point, two of the quarterbacks were still available when I took Ingram.

So Purdy and Love, once Purdy went, I'm like, okay, I'm going to take Love here. And was absolutely, like I said, beyond thrilled to get what could be a top five tight end. And to be honest, maybe a top five quarterback too in those two guys. Dave, you took Mark Andrews in round five and Anthony Richardson in round eight as the ninth quarterback off the board.

But you had an interesting start. Three receiver, full PPR league, and you just couldn't help yourself at the 11th pick. You took Jonathan Taylor and then three picks later, you took Devon A-chain. So A-chain,

what'd you think about starting with two running backs? I liked it because of the running backs who I got and because I correctly assumed that I'd be able to get at least two wide receivers that I would really love. I was hoping to get three wide receivers I would really love. But when I was up in round five, Andrews was staring me in the face and I just figured that it was too good of a value. And then in round six, I took another running back because I figured there wouldn't be a running back later on.

So I'm always very conscious about if I'm going to go zero RB, you know, I, I don't mind doing it, but I can't pass up good value and certainly heavy upside at the thinnest position in fantasy. And I felt like I saw that three times in the first six rounds. And so first draft of the year, yes, went back to the old version, or I guess it's the current version, the maybe forever version of how I'm just going to draft, but still very thrilled with the receivers that I got. Christian Watson getting him in late round seven felt like a pretty good value to me. Rolled the dice on Anthony Richardson in round eight. And I thought back to where we were drafting Richardson last year and like, what's different between then and now? Well, we saw Richardson play and in four games,

he averaged 19.7 fantasy points per game. He left two of those games clearly can run in this league. I don't think the Colts are going to try and take that away from him. And I thought he was impressive as a short and mid range thrower when he played. So hopefully the shoulder's okay. And that's, that's it. He had a shoulder injury. We saw a glimpse of what he could do. I think the potential is still very high for him to be a cheat code type of fantasy quarterback where you're going to get good numbers from him throwing the ball, but excellent numbers of him rushing. And I've got the combination of him and Jonathan Taylor on my team. I'm going to get every single rushing touchdown in Indianapolis next year. And that's going to be one of the run heaviest teams as long as Anthony Richardson's under center. All right. I had the 12th pick right after Dave. Dave stole a lot of good players

from me. Kyron Williams, Garrett Wilson was how I started. T. Higgins, Jalen Waddell. And then maybe I'd make or break my team with Tony Pollard and James Conner at 60 and 61 overall. You know, it's again, you do this and you're wondering where they're even going to be next year. Are the Cowboys going to bring someone in? Pollard was on the franchise tag.

Conner, how good has he been? He's just been so good. It makes so much sense for, I think, the Cardinals to bring him back. He's got such a good thing with Kyler Murray I also Khalil Herbert I can't imagine Deontay Foreman's gonna be on the Bears Herbert's proven himself I think anytime he's gotten the opportunity but Joe Burrow and Jake Ferguson are at quarterback and tight end and I also took CJ Stroud and I took CJ Stroud two picks after Burrow's like Burrow at the end of round seven and Stroud with the last pick of round nine. And round nine, that pick came to me. I was like, I didn't really love anyone.

And I love C.J. Stroud. So I was thrilled to get him there, even if I don't need him. But you know me with quarterbacks. You think you got your guy, and then you never know what happens. What if Burrow gets hurt again? I'll be happy that I have C.J. Stroud. I took a chance on Dotson, Mingo, Justin Ross, and Demarcus Robinson with four of my last five picks.

Dotson, Mingo, Justin Ross, and Demarcus Robinson. For Dotson, it's easy, right? I mean, we loved him a lot last year. He's probably getting a quarterback upgrade. He could get a fancy new offensive coordinator that unlocks something. I think worth a gamble. I'm with you on that. Round 10, first pick of round 10. All right, I think worth a gamble. I'm with you on that.

Round 10, first pick of round 10. All right, show's gone a little long, so I'm going to save our emails for tomorrow. We'll look at the wildcard weekend and more, some rankings and stuff like that on tomorrow's episode of Fantasy Football Today. Thanks a lot for watching, everybody. We'll talk to you later.