Fantasy Football Today - Mock Draft Review! And Ronald Jones and MVS to the Chiefs (03/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: March 28, 2022We'll take you through the first five rounds of our PPR mock draft, but first let's talk about the Chiefs as they sign Ronald Jones and Marquez Valdes-Scantling (2:30). What does this mean for Clyde E...dwards-Helaire and when should he be drafted? Does MVS hurt anyone in the Chiefs receiving corps? ... We get into our 12-team, 3-WR, PPR mock draft (16:05) beginning with where Leonard Fournette and James Conner were selected (17:40). They went in Round 3 with some other enticing RBs. Then we reveal the first five rounds beginning with Round 1 (21:10) and debate Alvin Kamara's case as a Top 6 pick. We also compare a team that started with 2 RBs to a team that started with 2 WRs (26:15) ... In Round 2 (30:50), the top TEs come off the board while Round 3 (35:40) represents a dropoff in talent. Round 4 has some good WR value (39:00), and finally the QBs come off the board in Round 5 (43:10). Does Dave regret passing up on Josh Allen? And we finish by reviewing our teams (49:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On his way to the end zone.
Tell you what, that was a spectacular play.
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
What a play.
Off to the races.
Touchdown.
Oh, he's done it again.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck.
Coming at you with an evening podcast.
See if we get a little wacky tonight.
We tend to do that on the night pod.
Sunday night show.
Looking at a PPR mock draft.
12 teams, 3 wide receivers.
How many wide receivers went in the first round?
This was before the Tyreek Hill trade, by the way.
But we'll lay it all out for you. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, and Jamie Eisenberg.
And
Jamie, how was your
kids' sports weekend?
How did you guys do?
It was great.
My seven-year-old
hit a walk-off double
in the second game of doubleheader
in extra innings um after he had just
a miserable day he was uh going into that at bat he was one for six with four strikeouts
he did not have a great day overall but he ended it on a very very high note so it's fun that
rocks that is great perseverance great feeling my uh my nine-year-old he had a rough day baseball but
won his basketball games team still undefeated he's been playing basketball now for three seasons
over two years uh one was covid shortened but he has never lost a basketball game um wow it's pretty
remarkable i'm trying to jinx it but um team is undefeated this year last year two ties won a
championship and in the covid shortened season they didn't lose a game either.
So that was a nice little run for basketball.
How many games in the COVID-shortened season?
I think five, maybe.
Four or five.
Okay.
So I think we were 10-0 in the championship run.
And now we are 6-0 in the
current season.
I think Bill Self is trying to join
the stream yard.
Apparently he's got $20,000
with him for his game.
Yes.
Alright, we're going to update you on our Marsh Madness.
It was a great weekend of college basketball.
Actually, truthfully, it was not
a great weekend of college basketball. The games weren't so good, but the great weekend of college basketball, too. Almost. Truthfully, it was not a great weekend of college basketball.
The games weren't so good, but the next weekend of college basketball will be incredible.
Absolutely incredible, I would suspect.
All right, so let's start with the Chiefs news here.
Dave, they signed Ronald Jones to a one-year deal.
They signed MVS to a three-year, $30 million deal.
First of all, who's more overpaid? Christian Kirk or MVS?
Kirk.
Okay. Now, as we look at this
draft, Clyde
went in the, what did I
say, the sixth round, the second pick
of the sixth round, 62nd overall.
He went just ahead of Chase
Edmonds, and I
got Devin Singletary like four or five
picks later.
I was happy about that but what do you think about 62nd overall for Clyde if you're asking me I think that that's
kind of surprisingly good value I think he'd go around higher than that in most drafts he'd be
off the board by 60th overall because people are going to recognize okay might not be the guy that
we thought he was when he was taken in the first round of the nfl draft but he's in his third year
should know the basics of the offense i'd be a little bit worried about him splitting running
downs work with rojo and another running back playing on third downs we'll see what ends up
happening i feel like 60 seconds a little too late you heard Jamie say steal. He's right. Right around 50th to
55th overall, that's where he went in our draft.
That's where I'd expect him to go now.
What do you mean that's where he went in your draft?
In our draft. But this is our draft.
That's where... You're right.
You're right. You're right.
You're right.
50th to 55th overall is where I think
he should go.
You were right, Adam.
We are getting a little loopy.
Yeah, it's it's in our future draft.
We'll go in round seven.
Did you guys do a draft that I didn't know about?
Jamie.
So what do you think the split is?
What is the Kansas City backfield look like to you?
Is Bill Self the coach?
I think, you know, you look at uh dave said if there's
another guy added you know there's still a chance of um i think you know kind of the the thought
process maybe jerry mckinnon comes back you know because he was you know very successful for him
probably cheap um knows the system can play sort of a dual role for them as we saw uh if if it's
that type of player i'd be a little bit more concerned about clyde everett zeller if it's a rookie that they you know invest
in somewhat early i'd be concerned about clyde everett zeller if there's another like running
downs guy like another ronald jones type then i would be very happy for clyde everett zeller
because uh there was some stuff coming out of the you know chiefs media that um the tyree kill trade
is good for him because you know with what we saw from this Chiefs offense last year, that, you know,
if they're going to, you know,
sort of not necessarily worry about focusing throwing down the field,
if teams are going to take that away and, you know, MVS, we'll see,
you know, what kind of role he has,
that clearly assumption would be he's that type of player.
And Mikko Harmon's that type of player, but they're not Tyree kill.
And so, you know,
if they're going to be a little bit more conservative in how they approach things, but still throw the ball, you know, a lot that, of player, but they're not Tyreek Hill. And so, you know, if they're going to be a little bit more conservative
in how they approach things, but still throw the ball, you know, a lot,
that, you know, Kelsey and somebody out of the backfield will benefit.
Right now, I think it's CEH, you know, to me,
by leaps and bounds over Ronald Jones.
In the Mahomes.
I will ask Andy Reid that question myself tomorrow.
Oh, good.
Yeah, you guys will be at the owners' meeting.
So our schedule's a little funky this week.
We have tonight, we're doing our first show Sunday night.
We'll have no show on Monday.
That'll be the Sunday night show, obviously.
No show on Tuesday until 3 o'clock, I think.
3 o'clock on Tuesday.
Usually we record at 10 a.m.
So just a little bit later on Tuesday,
and then I don't remember Thursday.
10 a.m. Thursday.
All right, that's what I thought.
I thought you changed it, Shraggy.
There's the voice.
Ah, the voice.
The best golfer of the company,
Ben Schrager, by the way.
Oh, no.
Very unhappy Pete Prisco.
Oh, yeah. Started up.
Shraggy B went golfing with Prisco.
Whooped him this weekend, right?
He didn't stand a chance.
There has not been a
50-catch running back in the Mahomes era.
Well, since he became the starter anyway.
Wait, I think Darrell Williams had 48 last year.
He's still a free agent, too.
He could come back.
He had 47 last year.
Do you think we'll get a 50-catch running back on the Chiefs in 2022?
I mean, Darrell Williams doing that in a
part-time role is pretty impressive.
Yeah, so actually,
I'll tell you, he had 30
of his 47 catches
in six
or seven, I think six games without Clyde
Edwards-Ziller. He was busy
in that role.
I would say if Clyde Edwards-Ziller stays healthy,
there will be a 50-catch running back for the Chiefs. And nobody else if Clyde Edwards-Hilaire stays healthy, there will be a 50 catch running back for the Chiefs.
Okay.
And nobody else like Clyde Edwards-Hilaire signs.
Could it be that Clyde Edwards-Hilaire
is the 50 catch back?
Now, we haven't really seen him as a pass catcher.
That's what he meant, right?
For Kansas City.
Is that what you meant, Jamie?
That Clyde would be the 50 catch guy?
I said that, yes.
Dave's on a different planet.
Sunday night, baby.
Sunday night.
Oh, Sunday night.
Dave.
He did a good job catching the ball in college.
We thought that he'd be able to.
Was it 55 receptions at LSU last year?
Yes.
Look at you guys.
But I think that he, like, they didn't trust him, obviously,
in his rookie year or his second year.
So it would take some big shakes during the preseason
for him to get that in his third year.
But what about Clyde, though?
All right.
What about MVS?
Dave, give me 30 seconds on MVS so we can start breaking down this draft.
I'm not excited about him being there.
He's not Tyreek Hill.
He's not half of Tyreek Hill.
Didn't even have 700 yards in any of his seasons in
Green Bay. To me, he's
a double-digit round dart throw
in real drafts or imaginary drafts
in my head. Jamie, does it affect
Mikko Hardman or Juju Smith-Schuster at all?
I don't think Juju, but I certainly
think it affects Hardman. They're going to be competing
for that role. I would
hope that Hardman has the inside track to win it. The contract doesn't necessarily help his case,
but, you know, he's been the one that has stepped up when Tyreek Hill has been out to whatever
extent you want to say he stepped up when Tyreek Hill has been out. So it's his opportunity. You
know, they certainly will use them both. I think all three receivers will be on the field a lot.
And it just Juju is the one that has to really take the step forward.
He's the one that has to sort of prove that he should be the focal point of the 150 plus
targets that are vacated.
You know, he's the one that needs to step into those opportunities.
He's not going to do the same things that Tyreek Hill did, but he's got to step into
those chances and hopefully he gets them.
So I think Juju is a high end number three receiver receiver we're taking a chance on assuming everything's right with him
physically seems like that's the case uh i would say hardman is still the one i would look at second
right now but that will probably change if uh we get better reports on mvs come training camp but
they're both you know around eight nine plus i had to move juju up so much because i i definitely think the potential is
there for him to rack up 75 plus catches now get a decent average and if he's going to be a short
area target then that'll come in handy in the red zone okay could see seven touchdowns out of him
just going to fly through the notes here and then we'll break down the draft but
deshaun watson and by the way we have a question here this is important uh the question was is the will you post the draft results anywhere
tragger just provided a link in the chat but for those of you listening the link is in the episode
description i'll put a link there's an article about it in the episode description and you can
follow along i think you know just just we're gonna do a lot of these clearly um generally
either they're up the day that we are talking about them
or within a day or two afterwards.
So there's always an article that's associated with the draft.
Deshaun Watson could be placed on the commissioner's exempt list,
according to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk.
He was the eighth quarterback drafted in our draft.
He went with the first pick of round nine, and that was to Dave.
And the next pick, by the way,
was Ronald Jones before he had a team.
Rob Gronkowski is undecided about playing,
according to his agent, Drew Rosenhaus.
There is some trade interest in Devante Parker,
according to the Miami Herald.
Carolina GM Scott Fitterer said that
Sam Darnold is in the lead for the quarterback job.
They also could bring Cam Newton back.
What?
It's just so bad for Panthers fans.
What an offseason for them.
All those quarterback activities happen this offseason,
and they're staring at Sam Darnold again.
Well, good chance they draft someone.
But, yeah.
By the way, DJ Moore played four games
with Cam Newton
starting and finishing.
Now in some of those games,
Cam Newton was not playing
all the snaps.
He had rotated in PJ Walker
and whatnot.
But Moore was pretty good.
He had scored,
he scored 14.3
or more PPR fantasy points
in three of four games.
No more than 16 points
in any game.
He didn't have any huge games.
But he did have a 103-yard game and 84-yard game. So not bad. Denver is open 16 points in any game. He didn't have any huge games, but he did have a 103-yard game, an 84-yard game.
So not bad.
Denver is open to bringing Melvin Gordon
back, and Giants CEO
John Mara said the team is not
actively shopping Saquon Barkley.
Doesn't mean he won't get traded, but
according to John Mara, they're not.
What that means is they haven't gotten an offer they like.
Let's give a
congratulations to someone named Dalton Everhart,
who is leading our March Madness pool in the college basketball tournament
that nobody needs to watch anymore because nobody cares because Miami lost.
But Dalton, congratulations.
You have 85 points.
This is close.
85 points.
Second place is Chris Warner, who has 84 points.
And Dalton has Villanova, and Chris has Kansas.
And they are playing on Saturday.
There are some other people still alive.
Tyler has Duke.
Chris has UNC.
So it looks like those are, well, I guess I don't know their finals matchups.
But, yeah, we still have don't know their finals matchups.
But yeah, we still have a number of people still alive to win the pool.
And if you win it, you get a $100 gift card to Paramount Plus and a spot in the podcast league.
And I just want to say in the cousins pool that I am running with my cousins and a couple friends,
one person in the pool who may or may not be related to me has 35 points,
has a maximum point of 35,
and I've never
seen anyone do that poorly in a March Madness
pool while trying to do well.
This is the worst performance
I've ever seen
to my brother Dave.
You have done just a horrible job
and disgraced my last.
I mean, did he pick the Jets to win the Final Four?
He picked Gonzaga.
A lot of people did that.
Yeah.
Adam, give me a second.
I'm going to pull up something that you need to see right now.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
Let's see.
He had Gonzaga, Kentucky, Arizona, and Iowa. So we lost
two Final Four teams on the first day.
Schrager, you got 34
points? You did worse than my brother.
Are you
kidding? I entered this bracket everywhere.
My perfect bracket.
I just looked.
My kids did brackets for the first
time, the two older ones.
My older son is nine.
He's in 56th place in our podcast one.
He's got 69 points right now.
Wow.
I have 43.
43 is not bad, not good, but 34 from Schrager is worse.
You lost your champion on the first day, Kentucky.
Way to go.
Ronan has a double Schrager score.
Hey, by the way,
and both kids
independently of themselves
picked Duke to win it.
That's good.
They went for the
sentimentality with
Coach K.
So anyway, the
madness continues.
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be awesome.
Dave, by the way, I believe you are going to retire as you have made a big sale, big
sale in your life, some extra income.
What did you sell
on the internet? I've been putting some cards that I don't want anymore on eBay. And I had
a 2013 Leaf Rookies and Stars, number two of 10 of Jacquez Rogers. And I put it on eBay.
Guess how much I got for it. 10 of them made in the world, but it's of Jacquez Rogers.
I'm going to guess 82 cents.
Jamie? $1.50.
Anybody else?
Less than a dollar.
Well, okay.
One cent.
I sold an item
on eBay for one cent
plus 75 cents to ship
it to them by throwing it in an
envelope and putting a stamp on the envelope.
That rocks.
I took my kids to a card store
this weekend. I saw you did that. Good for
you. And so there was
just a bunch of football
cards that were
50 cents. So I bought a bunch of 50 cent cards
like Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey
just so they have them. It was fun.
That's cool. Be cool to have 50 cent cards.
I will break off this sale and sell you
the Jock Quiz for 50 cents
if you want to really splurge
on the kiddos. You know, I know
your son's about to start college, so if you need
some help for the college fund, I will give you 50 cents
for Jock Quiz Rogers. That rocks.
Alright, let's get into our mock draft.
12 teams, full PPR, one QB.
I wish I had 140,000 Jacquez Rogers cards to sell you.
One QB, two running backs, three receivers,
a tight end, and a flex.
Again, three receivers and a flex and full PPR.
I'm so broke.
So the wide receiver pool, I don't know.
By the time, let's see, who went in round six?
Darnell Mooney, Marquise Brown, Cortland Sutton.
I guess that's not so bad.
Round seven, wide receivers, Renfro Thielen,
Kirk, Gabriel Davis, Juju, Gallup.
That's not so bad.
All right, there's some depth.
Your whole point just got thrown out the window?
It didn't feel as good.
Well, if you wait too long to get your third receiver,
you might be in trouble.
Take it to round eight.
Round eight, Robert Woods, Cordaro Patterson,
Rashad Bateman, Rondell Moore.
Yeah, there it is.
Round eight.
Travis Landry went in round eight.
Not so good.
Russell Gage, Kadarius Toney, last pick.
So, Jamie, you wrote the write-up of this.
Was there a major takeaway?
Really what I did was I kind of just went through and noted where most of the free agent or transactions
and the players were taken.
Like you said, it was before the trade,
before the Tyree Kill trade. So I just hate when that happens. Like, you know, we do a lot of these in the, in the,
uh, preseason and there's an injury that occurs, you know, so we'll do a draft on a Tuesday. I'll
write the story on Wednesday, Wednesday afternoon, somebody got hurt. So it's like bleep we do this
draft again. Um, so it was really just, you you mentioned you know where dave took to sean
watson it was stuff like that you know just just taking a look at those type of things like i
thought robert woods went a little too soon um just you know one of the names that you mentioned
um and it was sort of like some of the fallout like edmunds versus mostert you know comparing
those two um those two transactions you know james connor leonard fournette they both went
around three you know taking a look at that um you know just kind of, you know, James Conner, Leonard Fournette, they both went in round three, you know, taking a look at that,
you know, and just kind of assessing, you know,
the value to some of those moves.
The quarterbacks kind of where they were.
I hate our drafts for quarterbacks because it's never really a representation
of what people do.
So you kind of have to put it in context of not necessarily when the
quarterbacks come off the board, but the order that they come off the board.
So it's kind of stuff like that.
Yeah, we can start with Fournette and Connor.
Fournette went 26th overall, one pick after Jalen Waddell,
which of course doesn't make a ton of sense right now,
but it did at the time.
And then James Connor went five picks later.
So they were round three picks.
In between them, if we just look at running backs,
Aaron Jones went. So it went Fournette, Aaron
Jones, James Conner, and then
Montgomery, and then
Cam Akers. Those were the
five running backs of round
three. Fournette,
Jones, Conner,
Montgomery, Akers.
Dave, you think that order
works? What do you think?
I think it's close to working.
Maybe Fournette should be shuffled to the bottom of that order.
I like Jones a little bit more now,
given the way the Packers offense is structured
and given how he may end up seeing a bump in targets
just because they don't have a lot going on at wide receiver,
which seems weird because you've got Aaron Rodgers there. Why wouldn't they just lean on him and try and help
him or have him try and help other receivers become better than what they are? Quarterbacks
make the receivers, especially when they're as good as Rodgers. But I still see Jones having an
uphill battle to get a ton of touches, but I still think he's the best guy there. And I think that
they'll probably lean on both running backs a little bit
more.
So we're at the point in the draft where you're looking at either running
backs that are workhorse guys on bad teams.
That's David Montgomery or guys who are good running backs on good teams.
That might be around 15 touches per game.
I feel like that's Jones.
It was an interesting group.
You know,
you could take an even into around four of,
or the end around three with,
with acres going to the end around three and then into Josh Jacobs.
I was surprised Jacobs made it out of round three, you know,
given what he showed last year and what maybe he might be with Josh McDaniels
and what could be an upgrade in this offense with the addition of Devontae Adams.
So it really was one of those things where I think it's just a matter of what you,
you know, were looking at.
Like I had a little buyer's remorse of taking Antonio Gibson at the end of round two and passing on Debo Samuel.
That's something I won't do again.
Because the guys that were there in round three, where I took Evans, of Jones, of Connor, of Montgomery, Jacobs, Akers.
I like that pairing a little bit more.
I was curious just to see.
I did it purposely.
I was curious to see which receivers would come back in round three by going running back, running back.
And after doing it, I wasn't thrilled.
Now, obviously, if Chris Godwin's 100%,
Godwin would have been an easy choice,
but I don't think he's there either if we get to that point.
So you're saying you would rather have Debo Samuel and James Conn.
Aaron Jones would have done my selection.
Okay, Debo Samuel and Aaron Jones versus Antonio Gibson and Mike Evans.
Yep. But like I said, I did Jones versus Antonio Gibson and Mike Evans. Yep.
But like I said, I did that consciously just to see how it would look. Gibson
was the last running back that I liked at that point.
And then it was, okay, let's
see which receivers are available.
I think it doesn't really make
sense to start in round three. I wanted to talk
about those two running backs, but I jumped out of order.
So why don't we start at the top?
Sure. And Jonathan Taylor. Again, three receiver PPR league,
but we still had a ton of running backs in the first round.
I think there were eight or nine.
And let's see, the non-running backs were Cup, Jefferson, and Tyreek Hill.
So there were nine running backs in round one.
The first round looks like this.
Jonathan Taylor, Austin Eckler, Christian McCaffrey, Derek Henry.
And Cooper Cup was five.
Alvin Kamara was six.
Taylor, Eckler, McCaffrey, Henry, Cup, Kamara.
That's your first six.
Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift are seven and eight.
Let's stop there for a second.
If Kamara has a four-game suspension, who would you have taken?
Oh, not him.
In fact, I was going to say, I think I have remorse there.
I don't think I should have taken Kamara.
I'm a little concerned about him,
and maybe we should talk about this,
but they do have Mark Ingram.
When you just look at the games where Mark Ingram was there,
the playing time was down significantly for Kamara.
The touches weren't as consistent,
and he's not on a top five offense anymore.
So he could get away with that when he was splitting,
when Drew Brees was the quarterback.
But I don't know.
When I was thinking about it today, that was my pick.
I took Kamara sixth overall.
Five to me is like a sweet spot.
Get one of those top four running backs or cup.
I don't think I would do that again.
I think I'd probably take a wide receiver there.
What do you guys think? You think Kamara deserves to be a top six pick?
He's still in the conversation. You know, I think there's still a lot to like, you know, and again,
Dennis Allen and Carmichael, you know, they may decide that they're going to lean on Kamara more,
you know, and get the most out of him before he's washed up and maybe done in a year.
They may lean on him less.
Like you said, with Mark Ingram there, they might want to keep him fresh
because they still envision themselves as a playoff team.
Jameis, with a new voice in his ear, essentially,
may have some different options in leaning on him.
Michael Thomas being back, scoring chances may be up.
So there's still some positives, but there's also some negatives.
But I think he's in the same range of these guys, of Najee and Dalvin Cook.
I would take them both over DeAndre Swift still,
or those guys over DeAndre Swift.
But you can make a strong argument that Mixon should be right there too
with the offensive line upgrades that the Bengals have
and the way that he played last year too.
So they're all kind of in a jumbled group,
still all worthy of first round consideration but I I could see why you took him I could also see if you would have gone a different route too I would have taken
Najee I would have taken the younger yeah and Cook too you said Cook and I agree with both but
Najee's younger I know that the Steelers offense isn't going to be a top five offense either but
he should be a workhorse back there.
The offensive line's already gotten better this offseason.
Maybe they'll draft somebody else to make it even better.
They'll probably draft a rookie quarterback as well
to compete with Trubisky for the starting job.
And the passing offense shouldn't be any worse than it was last year.
I don't know how many 13-target games or however many targets he had.
I think it was like week two, week three, he had like a ton of targets.
I don't think he'll have many of that,
but I bet he gets a bunch of four and five target games and they
manufacture work for him and get, you know,
shot at getting well over 50 receptions again and helpful for fantasy
purposes.
It's not that the Steelers offense isn't going to be that good.
It's that it might be awful.
Where out of 32 teams,
where do you think just ballpark the Steelers are right now?
Offensively.
With a bottom third.
I was going to say like right at the top
of the bottom third,
but I'm not sure if I can name
10 offenses that are worse.
Yeah, because I think they could be
one of the five worst offenses in football.
And that would probably hurt Najee Harris quite a bit.
I would think they could be better than what they were last year.
I don't think, I don't see that, but they could be.
Well, okay, obviously, I mean, if Mason Rudolph, oh, I'm sorry.
It's not Mason Rudolph.
Well, it could be Mason Rudolph.
I don't think they really want to be Mason Rudolph.
It's true.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think they were 20th in scoring last year,
so I think there'll be a little worse,
but he was a top five running back.
Yeah.
I would think about the same.
Okay.
All right.
Let's go past that then.
Let's go to after.
I'll just take a look at what.
Should I go back up to the top of round one after Camara?
It's Najee Harris,
DeAndre Swift,
Justin Jefferson,
Dalvin Cook,
Tyreek Hill before the trade,
and Joe Mixon.
And then round two.
That's an obvious omission.
It's terrible.
Yeah, Jamar Chase.
It's so bad.
Well, who should he have gone ahead of?
I mean, factoring in Tyreek Hill,
I would have taken him over Hill
to begin with before the trade.
But he should be in the first round. He certainly should be ahead of DeAndre Swift.
So, nine running backs in the first round. I believe there were only
three in the second round.
So this was a very wide receiver,
tight end, heavy round in round two.
Nick Chubb. Interesting pick at 12
overall. 13 overall,
I guess. But to start, Marone started his team, Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb. Interesting pick at 12 overall. 13 overall, I guess. But to start, Marone started his team,
Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb.
Don't think a lot of people are going to go that route
in a three-receiver PPR league, guys.
What do you think?
Well, that's the route you go
if you want to lock up running back early
and you just hope the wide receiver kind of falls to you.
I'm curious to see how his team ends up
after starting running back, running back.
I've done that countless times, and sometimes the receivers are great, and sometimes the receivers
are terrible. I think there's definitely a stigma about Nick Chubb in PPR leagues because he doesn't
get a lot of targets, and that'll continue to be the case with Deshaun Watson under center. He
doesn't target his running backs very much, but he's still been 15 plus PPR points per game each of the last two
years with limited targets. And it's because he scores a lot of touchdowns and eats up a lot of
yardage. The question I've got is if, if Deshaun isn't suspended at all, how much does that really
change their, their approach week to week? Because they were very run heavy with, without Deshaun there. And now that
Deshaun's there, they're, they're not going to, you know, they're not paying them 230 mil to just
hand off to Nick Chubb every single week. So I'm a little bit worried about Chubb breaking through
and being 18 to 20 PPR points per game. I don't think that's happening. I think if you're drafting
them, you need to assume that like part of best-case scenario is right around 16 PPR points per week,
and there's other players that are at 13th overall
that I think can be better than that.
I guess the one thing that we could see is the beginning part of the season,
there's a suspension.
Like you said, Dave, there could be a lot of Nick Chubb.
The other part of it is I don't think, yes,
they're going to bring in Deshaun Watson to make him Baker Mayfield plus.
I think they're going to obviously allow him to be who he is.
But at the same time, he's never played in Kevin Stefanski's offense
in this system, and it might be more of a byproduct of,
okay, this is what we do.
We're going to incorporate what you do,
but you've got to do what we do a little bit too.
And so it could still be a lot more of the run game, run-centric,
involving running backs, not just necessarily him,
but obviously Kareem Hunt too.
So we could see Deshaun's game altering a little bit as well.
So I don't think it's a horrible pick there,
but that's another guy that should not have gone ahead of Jamar Chase.
I'm going to tell you how his team turned out.
I'm going to compare two teams.
I'm going to compare Marone's team and Jacob Gibbs' team
because Jacob went wide receiver, wide receiver,
and Marone went running back, running back.
I think he went three receivers in a row.
Oh, did he? Okay.
So three, I just want to tell you real quick
for Nick Chubb, where he's finished per game
in full PPR
the last three seasons at
RB, 10th, 8th, and 12th.
He's been 8th to 12th per game
in PPR each of the last
three seasons. Now, here's Marone's team. I think
he did
pretty well. He's got Kyler
Murray at quarterback, who he took
in round seven. He's got
Mixon and Chubb. And
then he's got really interesting receivers. Hopkins,
Metcalf, and Devontae Smith.
And TJ Hawkinson.
It's not bad. I mean, his
flex, I don't know who it's going to be. I mean, it's Tony Pollard, which
could be one of the best picks. You know, there's an easy
path to that being the best pick of the draft,
one of the best picks.
If he's back, you know, if he's...
Yep.
I remember him taking Pollard.
I wanted Pollard.
Carson, Ayuk.
So whatever.
Forget about his flex.
We'll figure that out.
But I think he did a decent job
getting Hopkins and Metcalf and Devontae Smith
to go along with Mixon and Chubb.
Plus, Kyler Murray's a plus at quarterback
and TJ Hawkinson's a top eight tight end.
So I'd give this team, what, I'd give it an A-minus.
Fellas?
I mean, it's just questions on Metcalf.
All the receivers.
Does Metcalf and Smith,
are they serviceable two and three at receiver?
I mean, Metcalf's obviously such a wild card right now.
All right, let's take a look at Jacob's team.
I love his first four picks.
Jacob went Justin Jefferson,
A.J. Brown, T. Higgins,
Josh Jacobs,
Travis Etienne.
That's a pretty solid starting five.
Jefferson, A.J. Brown, T. Higgins,
Josh Jacobs, Travis Etienne,
Darnell Mooney, Dallas Goddard.
And who's after that, Ben?
You can scroll down.
Cordaro Patterson, Trey Lance.
All right, so quarterback's an issue here, potentially.
Maybe.
Potentially, right.
Trey Lance, Madison, Antonio Brown, Khalil Herbert.
Which team do you like better?
Jacobs.
I think I'll go with Maroon.
I think Maroon too.
Yeah, I think Maroon too.
All right.
Let's go to round two of this draft.
So after Chubb, Javante Williams, Jamar Chase,
A.J. Brown, Devante Adams.
Receiver run.
And then, do you anticipate it taking this long for the tight ends to come off the board?
Sixth pick of round two, Travis Kelsey.
Three picks later, Mark Andrews.
That feel late to you, Jamie?
Pre-Tyree Kill, no.
Post-Tyree Kill trade, yes.
I think Travis Kelsey will creep up closer to the first round.
So, Mark Andrews is so interesting because, you know, numbers with Lamar Jackson, without Lamar Jackson, you know, when people actually dive into it, you're going to find out that he was still very good.
Still should be the number two tight end of the board.
Just not as productive as he was when it was the backups in there.
So is there more Rashad Bateman?
Is there still as much Marquise Brown?
Is there a better run game because it was such a disaster last season
by comparison with the injuries?
How much is Mark Andrews going to benefit
or maybe lose as a result of those things?
So I think he's in an appropriate spot in round two,
but he still should be a round two selection
if you want one of the top-tier tight ends
because he is the second guy there.
But Kelsey, I think, fell a little bit too far
if you're factoring in Tyreek Hill no longer on the Chiefs,
which we did not in this draft.
I think that the offseason hasn far. If you're factoring in Tyreek Hill, no longer on the chiefs, which we did not. Yeah.
I think that the off season hasn't been kind to tight ends.
Kittle probably going to have Trey Lance as a quarterback. We'll see.
Maybe that's not so bad.
That's something we kind of expected all along.
Does that mean that he's going to be better than last year?
I,
I don't know.
I don't know how that's going to work out.
Having Trey Lance as his quarterback,
because he's just such a different type of quarterback than what they've had previously with Kyle Shanahan there.
Waller just saw Devontae Adams get added.
That's not going to be good for his target volume.
And the other tight end in that group of three, four, five, I think it's kind of bad for Andrews, too.
But Pitts now has Mariota.
I think that caps his upside.
And Andrews, you but Pitts now has Mariota. I think that caps his upside. And Andrews,
you talked about it, Jamie. I want to go talk to John Harbaugh at the owner's meetings and ask him if he was happy that the Ravens were 10th in pass rate last year. Totally different for them. Are
they going to stick to that? Are they going to go back to where they were in years prior? And
I'm sure I'm going to get a line about game flow and how he can't really say at this point
because he doesn't give answers for anything,
but I'll try anyway.
I think it hurts Mark Andrews with Lamar Jackson coming back
and with J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards coming back.
The Ravens are going to be able to run the ball a lot better
than they did last year,
having a healthier, younger running attack.
And that's going to take targets away from Andrews.
That being said, he's still the second-best tight end.
If you want to have an edge over your competition in fantasy,
I think he's the guy to get after Travis Kelsey.
I just don't know if I'm ready to pawn up a late second round pick
to do it with him.
I just want to make a point because I know I'll forget.
And this is off subject a little bit.
We'll get back to round two.
If you are Jacob Gibbs and you loaded up at wide receiver
and you got this solid team,
but Trey Lance is your quarterback,
I do feel like you have to take a second quarterback.
And he could have still taken Jalen Hurts.
He could have taken Matthew Stafford.
I'm fine with you taking Trey Lance,
but I really feel like there's no need.
There's no reason not to.
We're talking double digit rounds at that point.
Well, let's see.
What are the quarterbacks available on waivers right now?
I got Stafford at 145th in the draft.
I'm not sure what was around that area,
round 12, round 11, for Jacob, I should say.
Yeah, he took Khalil Herbert.
He didn't make bad picks or anything,
but I just feel like Trey Lance
probably should not be your only quarterback.
Yeah, I mean, again, it's hard to say with a mock draft
and what your approach would be.
Are you taking more chances on,
oh, I really love this receiver,
I really love this running back,
and I want to just see what it looks like,
how it fits in the puzzle.
The quarterbacks that did not get drafted,
again, we did this draft before the trade,
so Tua would probably be the most exciting one.
Tannehill, Matt Ryan, I mean, it's not great.
He could have had Hurts or Stafford,
and instead he took Antonio Brown.
Jameis Winston.
Yeah, so, I mean, you know, again,
if he's probably building his team a little bit differently,
maybe that's the spot that he, you know, takes a different player,
takes quarterback there.
So it's also, look, there's, we know there's going to be a guy or two
that doesn't get drafted in a lot of leagues that's going to emerge.
You know, Jameis could be that guy too.
It could be that guy.
Trevor Lawrence, if he doesn't get drafted, you know, leagues, it's going to emerge. You know, Jameis could be that guy. Tua could be that guy. Trevor Lawrence,
if he doesn't get drafted, you know, who knows?
Alright, finishing off round two, after
Kelsey, it was Stefan Diggs,
who was, what, the sixth or seventh
wide receiver off the board?
Three, four, five, I think it was the seventh.
No, he was the sixth. Then CeeDee
Lamb, he was the seventh.
Mark Andrews, Antonio Gibson,
Debo Samuel, and Keenan
Allen. All right, round three.
We've already talked about the running backs in this round.
Here's the round three wide receivers. Dave took Jalen
Waddell. He would not do that now. Dave, where
would you take Jalen Waddell now? He'd be
a little bit lower. He might be a round four
pick now. This pick would have probably
been, I'm looking to see who's available,
Mike Evans would probably have been the
pick for me there at the top of round three.
So Waddle, Fournette, Evans,
Chris Godwin, Aaron Jones,
Amari Cooper,
James Conner,
David Montgomery,
T. Higgins, Terry McLaurin,
Cam Akers,
DeAndre Hopkins.
I felt, Jamie,
I said this on FFT in five,
that with my pick of Amari Cooper
in round six,
around third pick of,
sixth pick of round three,
I'm sorry.
I really didn't like it.
I was just praying
that Godwin or Aaron Jones
would make it to me.
They went with the two picks
right before my pick.
And I felt right there
like I had reached a point
where I just didn't love
the options anymore.
Not to say they're bad, but I love Godwin.
I love Aaron Jones there.
I don't love my pick of Amari Cooper.
I think I should have taken Cam Akers.
I would have liked that a lot more.
But at what point do you see the talent fall off
where we're no longer looking at studs
and it gets a little more questionable?
I feel like every year at some point in round three,
where do you think it is?
I mean, we're starting to get to that point of
receiver. I would have taken T. Higgins over Cooper.
But,
you know, look, if there is a
four-game suspension for Watson,
a two-game suspension for Watson,
Amari Cooper in round three might end up being a steal.
You know, with just how we've
seen Deshaun with his number one guy.
I mean, Hopkins was amazing.
Will Fuller, the year he was amazing.
You know, so Cooper certainly fits that profile.
And, you know, depending on what side of the, you know, Brown's leisure you're on of are they going to run or they're going to throw more.
You know, if they're going to throw more, then he's going to be the one that benefits the most.
So it's not a bad pick there if you're gambling on, you know, whatever amount of games Deshaun Watson misses.
But clearly, if it's a six game suspension or more, then Cooper's not going around three. He's probably going closer around five. pick there if you're gambling on you know whatever amount of games deshaun watson misses but clearly
if it's a six game suspension or more then cooper's not going around three he's probably
going closer around five do you think there's a point around four do you think there's a point
where we drop off to from studs to question marks here yeah for sure yeah okay but you still have a
lot of really really good high upside guys in this round.
Round three is pretty good.
How about round four?
We'll tell you about it after we take a quick break on fantasy football today.
We're back to talk about the tight end round.
Three tight ends come off the board within six picks in round four.
But the first pick of round four is DK Metcalf, who went to Marone.
We talked about his team, Mixon Chubb, in rounds one and two.
Hopkins, Metcalf, in rounds three and four.
Kyle Pitts, George Kittle,
then Josh Jacobs,
then Michael Thomas,
and then Saquon Barkley,
then Darren Waller.
But the first six picks of round four
are Metcalf, Pitts, Kittle,
Josh Jacobs, Michael Thomas,
and Saquon Barkley.
Jamie, is there a pick that stands out in a good or bad way there?
I like Michael Thomas a lot there.
You know, I think if he's right, this is a steal, you know.
So you got to hope that he's back at 100%.
You got to hope that he's on the same page with Jameis.
But I like him better than Metcalf right now, you know,
just based on the quarterback situation that both are looking at.
So, you know, that pick stands out.
I mentioned the Josh Jacobs one. I thought he should go in round So, you know, that pick stands out. I mentioned the Josh Jacobs one.
I thought he should go in round three, you know,
amongst the other running backs.
And then Barkley's such a wild card, man.
If he's anything close to what he can be, you know,
you're going to love a lot of people that end up with Saquon Barkley
in round three or later.
You know, I'm going to guess round four is probably going to end up being a spot
where he goes unless it's a really running back heavy draft. But, you know, healthy, better offense just based on system.
He could be awesome.
Would you guys rather have Michael Thomas or DeAndre Hopkins?
Still Hopkins.
Hopkins for me.
Dave, let's go to the last six picks of round four.
Darren Waller, Deontay Johnson, J.K.
Dobbins, DJ Moore,
Amonra St. Brown, and Brandon
Cooks, which was your pick.
It's Waller, Deontay Dobbins,
DJ Moore, Amonra, and Brandon
Cooks. Anything stand out there?
I think St. Brown got
taken way too soon. I don't
see him being worth a top 50 pick.
I just don't think he can recreate that
role that we saw at the end of last year when Swift was out for a bunch of those games. Hockinson
was out for those games and they've added Chark. They're going to add other wide receivers.
I think that target volume is going to go down to maybe seven and a half targets per game,
which is still good. I just don't think it's top 50 good. So St. Brown wouldn't be the pick there.
Johnson is my favorite, Deontay,
because I still think he's still going to get a lot of targets
and a lot of looks.
I know it's Mitchell Trubisky.
Well, last year he had Roethlisberger,
and Roethlisberger was terrible.
And that offensive line will be a little bit better.
And if Trubisky comes through on the one thing that he told
Sirius XM NFL radio about,
which is he's doing a better job of making reads.
That's what he learned to do was progress through his reads a lot faster in Buffalo.
If he brings that to Pittsburgh, he'll at least be a little bit more efficient,
won't turn the ball over as much, and maybe he'll be a little less scared with the football. Maybe
that'll lead to him throwing a little bit more in the intermediate areas. That would help Deontay Johnson as well.
To me, it's a volume play with Johnson.
You're hoping that he gets around eight or nine targets per game
and carries that through 17 games.
Okay, guys, Deontay Johnson or Michael Thomas?
I currently have Johnson higher.
Johnson.
Okay, so then Johnson or Hopkins?
I got Johnson one spot ahead of Hopkins in PPR.
Same.
I want to hear something about Hopkins health.
And I know everything seems to be heading in the right direction with Kyler
Murray, but I still think he's got the leverage point of wanting to hold out.
And it wouldn't surprise me that happens once we get to training camp.
That would be brutal.
The other thing that I'm wondering about is who else is playing wide receiver for arizona this year not not many people right now yeah the team that went
from having too many wide receivers now suddenly doesn't it feels like they don't have enough
let's go to round five we'll do one more round then we'll recap our teams
dave takes elijah mitchell then michael carter was a tough pick for me that was a really tough one let's go to round five. We'll do one more round, and then we'll recap our teams. Dave takes Elijah Mitchell,
then Michael Carter.
That was a tough pick for me.
That was a really tough one.
Yeah, why?
Because all the quarterbacks were still there.
So I could have been the first guy
to take the quarterback off the board,
and it would have been the first pick in round five.
And I think that just screams great value,
but I would have been hurting at running back.
This is my RB2.
This is me trying to not take too
many running backs early on.
There are a lot of red flags
about Elijah Mitchell, man,
that make me nervous about him coming through
in his second season.
I took him anyway just because I wanted to have something
there at RB2
knowing that I could get a quarterback later on
anyway, which I did.
If you had taken a quarterback there...
Josh Allen.
Then you could have just done what you did
in rounds six and seven,
taken Miles Sanders and A.J. Miller.
You would have taken Mahomes, though,
because you had Mahomes one prior to the trade, right?
Did I?
Oh, okay, then I would have taken Mahomes first.
Oh, we would have laughed at you.
You're right about that.
Three days later, we would have said,
ah!
But no, you still took two running backs
with your next two picks
in the end of round six
and beginning of round seven.
Sure, and part of that was just a reaction
to taking Mitchell and just trying to have
enough running backs to find a good RB2.
Theoretically, over the course of the season,
I'd be able to pick from Mitchell, Sanders,
and then one other guy.
I don't remember.
AJ Dillon.
There it is.
So between those three,
one of them would be my RB2 from week to week and at that point in the draft I think I already
had three receivers I kind of like that I kind of like going when I've got the early pick I took
Jonathan Taylor first overall obviously it's a stud three receivers right after that and then
starting to collect those running backs kind of in that dead zone that part I don't like a lot
either but it's toward the end of the dead zone.
It's not terrible value.
It shouldn't kill my team.
And your tight end is Zach Ertz.
Not terrible.
So you didn't completely punt there.
Okay.
So back to round five,
and the quarterbacks,
two of them will come off the board.
Elijah Mitchell, Michael Carter,
Josh Allen to Jamie.
He pulled the trigger.
He took the first quarterback.
13 seconds later,
he took the second quarterback,
Patrick Mahomes.
Jerry Judy.
So if you're wondering,
where do those Broncos guys go?
Jerry Judy went in round five
and Cortland Sutton went in round six.
What's better value?
Sutton.
I was going to take Judy,
but I was like, you know what?
The quarterbacks have stayed on the board too long
and I wanted to see how that played out. But Judy was the one I was going to take Judy, but I was like, you know what? The quarterbacks have stayed on the board too long, and I wanted to see how that played out.
But Judy was the one I was eyeing.
Ezekiel Elliott went after Jerry Judy.
Then Michael Pittman, Alan Robinson, Travis Etienne, Elijah Moore,
Tyler Lockett, and Devontae Smith.
Those first three receivers that you mentioned, Pittman, Robinson,
and Moore, feels like such good value if they all hit.
If they all hit, yeah, but how optimistic are you?
This was before?
No, this was after the Matt Ryan trade.
Okay, yeah, so mid to late round five, top 60 picks.
Michael Pittman, Allen Robinson, Elijah Moore, and then Tyler Lockett and Devontae Smith.
You're saying those first three stand out to you?
Yeah, I mean, certainly you can see the upside.
The downside, you've seen it with Robinson already.
Is he done, or is it just a byproduct
of how messy things were in Chicago at the end?
Elijah Moore can stay healthy.
When he was healthy, he was pretty fantastic last season.
Most of it, although it wasn't with Zach Wilson,
so that's what you have to factor in there.
And then with Pittman, can he be the guy for Matt Ryan?
Can he get over the lack of touchdown potential
that might be coming his way?
But who else is he going to be sharing the field with?
But, I mean, you could say quarterback upgrade
for the first two guys, and Elijah Moore seems to be
somebody that's a breakout candidate
if he stays on the field for 17 games.
All right, Dave, any final thoughts on this round?
A lot of wide receivers here.
I thought Allen Robinson went too early.
How come?
Just because I don't know if he can be explosive.
He's going to need target volume,
and I don't know how much of it's going to be there from game to game if Cooper Cup is still Cooper Cup.
He's never really been explosive except for that first
breakout year. It's just not him.
He's needed tons and tons of targets. I think you're hoping for touchdowns, right?
It's also been a lot of targets from crappy quarterbacks.
Hopefully, if it's less targets, it's better been targets from crappy quarterbacks. So hopefully, you know, if it's less targets,
it's better,
better targets and a better offense.
Yeah.
Does that make him a much more efficient wide receiver?
Does that,
I don't mind the gamble around five,
you know,
the guys that he went ahead of Elijah Moore.
Okay.
I would take more over him,
but I would see you're gambling there.
Darn on Mooney,
Marquise Brown,
Cortland Sutton.
To me,
they're all very similar.
You know,
you can see the upside,
see the downside,
you know,
Mooney.
Now the,
the target hog, hopefully in Chicago, Marquise Brown was very good if not
great last year when Lamar Jackson was on the field and we you know have to be excited about
Cortland Sutton so you know they're all kind of similar you know so if you have uh you know
inkling that this is going to be Allen Robinson bouncing back because he's going through the Rams
car wash similar to what happened to Robert Woods when he was, you know, coming off a bad Buffalo situation to OBJ coming
off a bad Brown situation. You know, I mean, there there's evidence there that guys can come in,
you know, Robinson a little bit on the older side by comparison, but, you know, he'd come in and
hopefully if there is nobody like Beckham coming back or even Beckham comes back and he's not ready
to go at the start of the season, you know, if he's competing with Van Jefferson for that second wide receiver spot,
I like,
I like Alan Robinson that in,
in round five,
I know Beckham wasn't really that good though.
Beckham averaged 38 yards per game with the Rams.
He came in with no training camp.
He came in with nothing,
you know,
off the street.
Well,
you know,
he scored,
they trusted him in big spots.
He started getting better as the season went on.
I mean, the Super Bowl, the first half,
he was on his way to a huge game.
He had three targets.
But, I mean, yes, he had two catches, 52 yards, and a touchdown.
He definitely scored.
And I think that's what you're hoping for with Robinson.
You're hoping that he's second on the team in touchdowns.
But it's going to be a full offseason of Stafford,
a full offseason of McVay,
a full offseason to get himself acclimated.
I would say he's better situation than Beckham.
Whether he's better than Beckham, I don't know.
But better situation than Beckham.
He's also bounced back before Allen Robinson has.
He tore his ACL in 2017, played one snap, basically, one catch.
Then he had a bad year in 2018,
but bounced back very nicely the following two years.
I bet people thought he was probably done after that 2018 season,
754 yards in 13 games.
And then after that, he had two strong years in a row.
Let's talk about our teams now.
We will recap.
And Dave, you had the first pick.
So how did it turn out?
I like my team.
Jonathan Taylor at running back, first overall.
My receivers, Keenan Allen, Jalen Waddle, Brandon Cooks.
I would scratch out Waddle brandon cooks i would scratch
out waddle and put him mike evans there now if i could go back in a time machine i don't have waddle
as the 25th best player in ppr now that tyree kills there um mitchell at running back along
with sanders and dylan we talked about that hopefully between those three guys i've got an
rb2 maybe have a flex along with it. And then second half of my draft,
just really tried to target upside and value.
Kadarius Toney, Deshaun Watson at 97th overall.
And if I'm without him for half the season,
I've got Stafford at 145th overall.
Zach Ertz at 120th overall.
If the Arizona Cardinals don't add anybody,
that's good for Zach Ertz
because then his target volume will be there.
Valdez Scantling, Pat Fryermuth, KJ Hamler.
Three guys that I'm just throwing darts at
in the double-digit rounds.
They all came in round 11 or later.
MVS was one of them.
This was obviously before the signings,
before the Tyreek Hill trade.
Yeah, I kind of drafted him thinking he'd be back in Green Bay.
I'm just curious since it won't come up.
Nicole Hardman, he went in round 14.
Oh, but again, this was, sorry.
Pre-Tyreek.
All right, recapping Dave's team one more time.
Deshaun Watson at quarterback,
Jonathan Taylor and Elijah Mitchell at running back,
Keenan Allen, Jalen Waddell, and Brandon Cooks.
That would now be Keenan Allen, Mike Evans, and Brandon Cooks.
Zachert's at tight end, And right now the flex is Miles Sanders.
Could be A.J. Dillon.
Could be Kadarius Toney.
Something like that.
Okay, Jamie, you had, what, the third pick?
Yep.
How'd your team turn out, Jamie?
You know, it's okay.
There were some things, like I said,
I would have done differently
if I was actually uh drafting this
for real i was just trying a few different things i like to do that in these early mock drafts so
josh allen quarterback uh mcafree and antonio gibson at running back mike evans dj moore adam
thielen at receiver dalton schultz at tight end uh raheem moster would be the flex right now on
the bench two running backs i have are kenneth gainwell and Jared Patterson, Odell Beckham, Chase Claypool, Nico Collins, and Corey Davis, that receiver.
All right. So again, he has
Josh Allen, Christian
McCaffrey, and Antonio Gibson.
And let me just ask you guys,
how are you feeling about Antonio Gibson?
I like him in the back end of round two.
Like I said, I wouldn't have taken him over
Debo Samuel if I was actually doing this because I wanted to see
how it worked out. But he's in that group
of guys of Aaron Jones, Leonard Fournette James Connor uh Josh
Jacobs you know I think he's at the front of it still um this is should be uh still a good offense
in terms of how they run the ball I think they still the catalyst of this offense with Carson
Wentz uh the nice thing is Wentz has shown you at least from last year that he can you know command
a good run game.
I don't think Antonio Gibson is Jonathan Taylor,
but I don't think he's going to be a slouch.
And so the fact that McKissick is back isn't the best situation for him.
It would have been better if McKissick was gone.
But I still think you look at Antonio Gibson as a back-end RB1, high-end RB2.
All right, so Josh Allen, McCaffrey, and Gibson for Jamie.
Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Adam Thielen.
Dalton Schultz at tight end.
Raheem Mostert at flex.
And I had the sixth pick,
and I started with Alvin Kamara, and then I went with at least two wide receivers.
Maybe three.
No, I took Darren Waller.
That's right.
So Russell Wilson is my quarterback.
Alvin Kamara and Ezekiel Elliott,
who I got in round five.
So I went running back, receiver, receiver,
tight end running back.
Wilson, Kamara, and Zeke.
Amari Cooper, Stefan Diggs.
Gabriel Davis is my wide receiver three.
Devin Singletary is my flex.
You love the build.
I do.
I'm okay with that.
Darren Waller is my flex. You love the build. I do. I'm okay with that. Darren Waller is my tight end. I also
have Jalen Hurts to back up Russell Wilson.
I have James White. Potentially
you know what he is.
Could be a low
end RB2. I think he took him around 10.
That was a good pick. Kenny Galladay,
Jacoby Myers,
Amari Rogers, and
Curtis Samuel. Maybe Curtis Samuel can bounce back after taking a year off, essentially.
I'm okay with this team.
I think, really, it might hinge on Amari Cooper.
If he has the type of year that a number one receiver,
Jamie was talking about this earlier,
number one receiver that Sean Watson has,
it's going to be a solid team to go along with Stefan Diggs.
I think Diggs is going to be better this year. I don't
think his target share is going down.
Unless they get committed
to the run, I don't think that's going to happen.
I saw a rumor they might take Brees Hall or something
like that. Right. Something like that would absolutely
raise some eyebrows.
I think he'll do better with the targets this
year than he did last year.
Yeah, the thing I think you fear is
I don't... Brees Hall to me,
doesn't really make me scared of Tiffon Diggs.
Cause then you have the threat of a run game.
So maybe,
you know,
he gets a little bit more single coverage,
but I think it's,
do they sign a Jarvis Landry?
You know,
there was some talk about him maybe going there.
Do they draft a receiver?
You know,
that could,
you know,
be somebody that takes away some,
some target opportunities.
Do they get into more, you know, that could, you know, be somebody that takes away some, some target opportunities. Do they get into more, you know,
too tight end sets because of OJ Howard being there and what Dawson Knox did,
does that take away some touchdown opportunities? You know, so those types of things worry me more about Stephon Diggs than a better run
game.
They picked Jamison Crowder over Jarvis Landry.
Yeah. I don't know if that's the end of what they're doing though.
Be weird if they added Landry on top of Crowder.
That would be bad for Diggs, obviously.
Landry reportedly wanted $20 million.
So he opted out of a $16 million.
He wanted out of a $16 million.
He's not getting that.
He's not getting that.
So, you know, if he's looking at it, okay, where do I get best chance?
You know, if he goes Buffalo cheap, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
All right, so where do you guys have Diggs?
Top five, PPR.
Yeah, right around there.
Fifth.
Who's fourth?
Adam's for me.
Me too.
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