Fantasy Football Today - Mock Draft Review! How Have Things Changed Since Free Agency? (03/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: March 18, 2026Join Our Bracket Challenge! https://cbssports.com/fft We've completed our first mock draft since free agency and we'll review where guys like Jaylen Waddle, Ken Walker, Luther Burd...en and DJ Moore were drafted. First, who were some of the best values in this draft (4:40)? We talk about Romeo Doubs and the Jaguars running backs ... The worst values in this draft (17:15) include Rachaad White and possibly Darnell Mooney, though that is debatable. Also, is the third round too early for Jaylen Waddle? We talk a lot about which wide receivers belong in the third round of drafts. Is Mike Evans part of that group (32:00)? ... Reviewing the draft values of players who were affected by free agency and trades (38:10). This includes De'Von Achane, Justin Jefferson, Garrett Wilson, Emeka Egbuka, DJ Moore and Tyler Warren. Within this discussion, we wonder if drafting three Bears pass catchers in Round 4 is excessive (55:50) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports.
What a play!
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Our first mock draft post-free agency is in the books.
Where did Jalen Waddle go?
Where did Ken Walker go?
Where did Devon A. Chan go?
How about the commanders running backs?
The Buccaneers' running backs?
The Buccaneers' wide receivers.
Mike Evans went pretty early.
early in the fourth round.
There were some very interesting picks for sure.
I'm Adam Azer here, although I see,
I haven't changed my name back from Adam A-chan on YouTube,
because everybody's name is A-chan apparently now.
Jamie is here?
Hey, Jamie.
Good morning.
Dan, is it?
Dan, very weird.
It was rooting for Venezuela last night, so congratulations.
What?
You can't put that on me.
At no point did I ever say that to you.
Wasn't rooting for Venezuela.
I was actually watching the World Baseball Classic.
First time watching baseball.
And what feels like a while just because the end of the season,
but I don't really watch too much regular season baseball in real MLB.
I got to say, World Baseball Classic, a lot more fun than regular MLB.
And I'd argue a lot better than just watching a random NBA game.
I thought our Steam guests, who, by the way, showed up on time on Monday.
Joe P.C.O.
said what I think is a great idea, that if there is a lockout,
we just have the World Baseball Classic in a bunch of Best of Seven series.
Yeah.
Sure.
I also like the World Baseball Classic in media,
we won't spend too much time on this,
but I just find it so interesting.
Like how do we go four innings with a guy who's,
is he even in a rotation this year,
Eduardo Rodriguez,
against the all stars of all stars.
And he doesn't get hit.
Like that's baseball for you.
That can't happen in any other sport.
Yeah.
I don't even think this guy's in a rotation this year.
Is he?
I have no idea.
Honestly.
I mean, we made him look like Say Young.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
If he wasn't yesterday,
he might be after.
that. All right. So we'll go through the draft
and we'll mostly just talk about where the
players who were affected by
free agency ended up.
And that is so many players.
It's probably half the league.
I mean, or close to it.
Talk about guys on teams that lost a player,
added a player, whatever it is. So many players. But
yeah, we'll give you the best and the worst picks. Just some
news and notes while we were on the air on Monday.
The chiefs acquired Justin Fields from the Jets.
Jamie and I did a bonus pot on Jalen Waddle,
who was drafted in the third round,
which Jamie and Dan think is too early,
late third round in the draft we did yesterday.
So he's with Denver.
The Eagles signed Marquise Brown
to a one-year, $10 million deal.
James Boyd was writing about projecting the Colts,
athletic beat writer for the Colts.
And he thinks that the Colts
will have to add someone at wide receiver,
but no matter what they do at wide receiver,
Tyler Warren will be the number two-pass catcher
for the Colts.
That's what James Boyd of the Athletic thinks.
ESPN reporting that Devon A-Chann is not on the
trade market and the 49ers signed Christian Kirk to a one-year deal as he looks to bounce back
from kind of a disappointing season for Christian Kirk. All right, let's get to our mock draft
review. And the best and the worst values, and if you're watching on YouTube, you can see
the mock draft. You can see all the results. I encourage everyone to go to YouTube.com
slash fantasy football today. You can see our videos there. If you click the live tab, you'll see
everything you need of all the live shows that we do. Okay.
So, Jamie, let's start with what you thought was the best value of any player affected by free agency or trades.
And you said it was Romeo Dobbs, who went with the 11th pick of round seven.
That was just before D.K. Metcalf, Jackson, Dart, Jalen Warren, and Jordan Addison.
So your best value, just players affected by free agency or trades, was Romeo Dobbs.
As of now, because we could still see a J. Brown trade, which I think a lot of people are expecting.
If he does get traded, the Patriots are probably the leader in the clubhouse,
I don't know what the odds are, but that's what you seem to see a lot of.
So that would change things.
But if Dobbs opens the season as the Stefan Diggs replacement just from a one-to-one,
one guy leaving, one guy coming, I think Dobbs has an opportunity to have the best year of his career.
I think he'll be in an offense that will feature him.
I think it'll be an opportunity for him to go over 1,000 yards for the first time,
hopefully be in that seven touchdown range, and maybe be over 14 p.p.
our points per game. So that would put him as a borderline number two receiver. You're getting him
on Jake's roster here with the 11th pick as his fourth receiver, which is awesome, so that could be
his flex. But I really like the opportunity for Romeo Dobbs as of now and where he was drafted.
I know when we had the free agency podcast or when we were doing the free agency podcast, I remember
what Dave and Heath said. I know how I feel about it. Like, I don't think there should be so much
separation between Wondell Robinson and Romeo Dobbs.
Jake, ironically enough, took both.
He got Dobbs two rounds later.
I think those guys are in a similar range,
in similar situation for what their outcome could be,
not how they get it done,
but how their outcome could be just based on where they ended up
and their roles on their respective teams.
I mean, like, I could be wrong about Wando Robinson,
but I think he was one of the worst picks, in my opinion,
at 5-11, the 11th pick of round 5.
Dobbs, two rounds later,
the 11 pick of round 7.
Even went before his height, which is incredible.
I don't think so.
His height's 5'9, I believe.
No, there's no way he's a touch over 5-8.
Right.
So 5-11 for Wanda Robinson.
That's what I meant.
I didn't say it through.
Oh, okay.
No, if he had been lower than his height, right,
that would have been really something.
But, yeah, I don't, yeah.
Okay, so Dobbs there.
Dan, your favorite pick, was this your pick,
Chris Rodriguez?
Yeah, in a shade of narcissism that you can only grow
and to expect from me on a show like this.
I chose my own selection for my favorite value pick from the free agents and the players that
moved. It was Chris Rodriguez.
Look, if anyone had taken Chris Rodriguez before me, I would have taken that as well.
I think I could go up to at least a round before where he was taken and feel like that was value.
Chris Rodriguez, first of all, you look into the metrics since he's entered the NFL.
He's been one of the most efficient running backs in the NFL on a per touch basis.
Somehow, some way, that's the case.
Then you take the, do you actually take the time to watch the tape?
And it's like, yeah, this guy just gets it.
He understands how to process behind the line of scrimmage.
He sets up the blocks well.
He runs low with a great center of gravity and great contact balance.
And in addition to all of that, he joins the best possible situation.
He joins his former college coach who loved him and used him as a war course.
And he joins a Jacksonville team that generated so much yards before contact and so much in the run game.
Mostly with what I thought was design, not really great blocking up front individually.
I think they might add to the offensive line in the draft.
I don't really see any reason why they wouldn't, given the rest of the roster and what they've done to add there.
They need to replace Devin Moyette at linebacker, but outside of that.
So I like Tutin and Chris Rodriguez.
I'm going to be drafting both of those players this year.
I don't think they're done, though.
That's the problem.
That would be a big problem, yes.
It just feels like, you know, they were in on J.K. Dobbins from, you know, things you hear.
They were in on, there was another player.
Oh, Alger, they're in on Algeria and Dobbins,
were two guys that they were looking at.
I think whatever they do in the draft will clearly be telling,
you know, whenever they address the position.
Because right now, unless I'm mistaken,
I'm missing somebody, the three guys on the roster,
Artouin Rodriguez and Lequin Allen,
they still need a fourth.
So is the fourth coming in as, hey, depth,
we'll see what this player does or is this guy coming in as you have a chance to actually win the job.
And so if it's a high end rookie, meaning, you know, day two, because I don't think it's going to be day one,
then we'll see what that player is, who that player is and what the pedigree, you know, suggests.
If it's, oh, sixth round pick, seventh round pick, guy for depth, you know, developmental type player,
then I think both these guys are in great spots because to your point, Rodriguez was a guy that, you know, has been with,
the coaching staff, head coach,
William Cohen for, you know, time in Kentucky.
And then this is obviously the regime that drafted Tutin,
you know, with ideas of maybe him being a featured guy.
So it's a good spot for both those guys right now.
They don't.
And if I'm not mistaken, they don't have a first round pick
those and traded for traps hunting.
That was, yeah, you're right.
If they, I mean, it's just, it's possible,
but it's so hard for me to manage a franchise
without a first round pick.
She says, you know what,
I'll use my second one,
but I'm going to running back.
Oh, I don't, I don't necessarily think it has to be.
And clearly, you know,
teams could be creative, they could trade back into.
Right, right.
They could, you know, certainly do on, as a third round pick.
I'm waiting to see Camara, for example, does he get cut or traded?
I think that'd be a good fit, you know, for, for Jacksonville, which I think would still
be good for both of those running backs, Tutank's or Rodriguez, because of, you know, where he
is at here, where Camara's at with his age.
But it's just, again, just waiting to see what happens.
But I think, yeah, where you got Rodriguez was fantastic.
And I think where Tutton went also, I think that's Adam's favorite pick.
Right.
Yeah.
Right, it is interesting because my favorite pick,
which neither of us knew the other one was picking a Jacksonville running back for this exercise here.
So Dan says Chris Rodriguez, who, by the way, went with the third pick of round 10.
Where did you go?
Where do you go?
Third pick of round 10 for Chris Rodriguez.
I said Bejel Tootin with the sixth pick of round six in between Chuba Hubbard and Jacori Kroski Merritt was the better value here.
I do like Chris Rodriguez.
I mean, he's been underrated.
Just makes me wonder, you know, I don't know.
Is he really that good?
He's not like he had a pedigree or anything like that.
He doesn't have that many carries in his career.
He has 198 carries in his career.
He's averaged 4.6 yards per carry.
He has six catches in his career.
So Tudin obviously has a much bigger opportunity to be involved in the passing game.
And Tudin is much more explosive than Chris Rodriguez.
Rodriguez is just not that fast.
He gets it done in other ways.
But I want the guy who can make big plays.
And I think Tudin, if he gets the opportunity,
I think he could kind of get a bigger grip on the job.
Obviously, Dan's going to draft Tutin ahead of Rodriguez, I assume.
But what's better value to you, Dan, Tutin in round six or Rodriguez in round 10?
I've been high on Tutin all offseason, but I think I'll go with Rodriguez a few four rounds later.
I just think they're both set for very similar production.
Tutin obviously is the league winning type upside, though, as you mentioned with the explosiveness,
the speed and the ability in the passing game, which we haven't actually seen a lot of.
we've seen it more at Virginia Tech.
So we'll see if they actually feel like they can use them in that regard.
It just the one thing that scares me is like they do like Lequin Allen.
He's a great blocker and he did get snaps that we didn't expect him to get last year.
So if it turned into that type of situation, then I'm worried.
But right now I feel like I could draft both and be happy with either of those values,
six-round or 10th round.
I don't see Allen's role changing dramatically.
He'll probably get a few more passing opportunities.
But, I mean, he's basically an offensive.
lineman. I mean, that's what they use it for to pass for.
All right, folks.
So we're going to get to the worst values here based on players who were affected by free agency one way or another.
Dan had just an absolute stinker of a pick. Wow.
Wait, my pick or the player I picked to be the worst value.
No, you're the player, your pick, your pick in the draft.
Just let me say one thing about this draft and I do appreciate this and I like this.
It's like one of the rare drafts we do during the year.
where there's no ADP data.
Actually, I kind of wish like once a year all of us did this in our real draft where
like you go into a draft, you don't get like the, you know, the ADP data to sort through
or the rankings.
You just have to pick players based on your knowledge and no sorting.
And that's what this draft is.
Well, I mean, if you draft at the beginning of training camp, you know, so there are leagues
that because they want to do it in person, you know, end of summer, for whatever reason,
I know I do a couple of analyst drafts that we play out, you know, magazine purposes and whatnot.
There is no, there's the exact scenario you're talking about.
But we don't have rankings for this draft.
We don't even have rankings for this.
True.
So it's really just the Wild West out there.
And you're going to make some mistakes when it comes to the Wild West.
Oh, you did.
You certainly did.
And we're talking about that.
I'm not surprised to hear.
But we will observe your mistakes as well.
Yeah, I made one, I think, really bad pick.
But overall, I like the team.
But, okay.
I have a question for you.
Somebody
somebody called me
in the middle of the draft.
Okay.
In a panic.
Saying,
can you make a pick for me?
Please.
I have to pick up my children
from the bus stop.
Who do you think that was?
What a good dad.
I mean,
one might say a good dad.
One might say an unprepared dad.
I'll go with the latter,
Adam Azer.
Yeah.
Just kidding, buddy.
You're not enough.
Like out of breath.
I was late.
Hey, you were late to the bus stop.
Hey, can you pick, please?
Coral of the son of Ricky Pearson.
And then I'm assuming it was his son saying something like,
Dad, did you poop your pants?
Yeah, something like that.
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Dan's worst pick.
And I think one of the worst picks of the draft.
A guy that really I just don't think deserves to be drafted.
It was Darnell Mooney with the 10th pick of the ninth round.
It's just no.
No, he doesn't know.
Come on.
Why?
Well, first of all.
I need to tell you some stats on Darnell Mooney.
Is that something you'd like to hear?
I know what you're going to say at 1,000 yards with Justin Fields.
He's had two good years in his career.
I've given you a thousand parts with Justin Fields.
You want stats.
I'm going to give you real stats.
I'm going to give you azer-esque azur stats, but even better than what the azer status.
Do you want them or no?
Not real.
Sure.
Sure.
I mean, yes, obviously, you have to defend this horrible pair.
But I just, I don't think that, I don't think he's worth rostering.
He's not going to do much as long as Malik neighbors is playing, which neighbors should
be ready for week.
Go ahead.
In 2024, before the Achilles injury, before he had to deal with.
just what I would describe as bottom barrel level quarterback play in 2025.
Pennix had an arm talent, but locked on to his first read, couldn't handle pressure,
didn't see Mooney a lot.
Cousins,
Mooney was open,
and he's just waiting for the ball and Cousins would eventually get it there.
But in 2024,
when the quarterback play was a little bit better,
according to fantasy points data on all passes that were charted catchable,
it was not Justin Jefferson.
It was not Nico Collins.
It was Darnal Mooney with the number one yards per target for man coverage on charted passes in 2024 and the eighth best separation rate on outbreaking routes.
And you go, you watch the tape at him, something I've obviously done as a Giants fan.
He gets open, man.
He beats man.
He beats press man.
If you give him one-on-ones, he wins.
He's a very good route runner.
He's very good at getting in and out of his break.
He's very good at the top of his route at sinking his hips and creating that separation.
Took a while for the ball to get there in Atlanta.
Maybe that'll be the case with Dart.
We'll see.
He has to get on time.
He has to be, you know, obviously take that next step from a processing standpoint.
But he's going to get a lot of one-on-one opportunities in this offense with neighbors on the other side,
with all the 21 and 12 personnel they're going to run.
It's just going to be one-on-one for Mooney the entire year.
I don't mind that setup if Dart can take that next step.
All right.
I hope you're right.
He's, I think, 29 years old coming off an absolutely terrible season, Darnell Mooney.
And he's just terrible in using the eye of the beholder.
Well, his statistics were...
Yeah, they were bad.
That's what happens when you have Penix and cousins, but...
443 yards and 15 games and one touchdown.
And there's not really much like pits at a fine season.
London had a fine season.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
Penix is a lock-in first read guy and he was just going to London and occasional pits.
All right, they've got neighbors and they've got likely now.
Is Mooney getting drafted at all after the NFL draft?
Well.
I'm just asking, like, do they draft a receiver?
Listen, this wasn't my best pick.
I want to make that clear.
Oh, oh, the Giants track the receiver?
They will.
I don't think they'll do it around.
No, I'm not driving the receiver.
I actually don't think they will.
They don't have a third round pick.
Well, I'm just curious because, I mean, you obviously you guys follow this.
Dan, you know, does the Giants podcast.
So, like, does this move and the likely move speak to this is how we're addressing our receiving
core and our past catchers more so than, because I know, Adam, you were the end of
the seat.
season last year.
They're drafting receiver, drafting receiver,
fifth pick in the draft.
No, well, no, I may be the fifth pick in the draft.
I think.
You wanted them to use five at receiver?
No, I said, maybe the first round of the second round.
I'm not saying you were like, it's going to happen.
I'm just saying that was something you respect it.
Yes, I do think they will, well, yeah, right.
But they added likely, but Mooney and Austin are one-year deals.
So I don't think that's going to preclude them from,
drafting a wide receiver if they want to do that.
At some point, they will draft a wide receiver.
Not necessarily one that will affect Arnele Mooney this year.
All right, let's move on, though.
Let's talk about Jamie.
No, Dan, Dan, your pick for worst value is Rashad White
with the first pick of round seven,
Rashad White and round seven.
Yeah, Rashad White, not trying to come down too hard on Rashad White.
I actually like the evolution he's made as a runner in his game.
But ultimately speaking,
it feels like this team could be the team that drafts Jeremiah love.
That's how I see it.
I know some people think he'll go at four of the Titans.
I don't.
Some people think will go at five to the Giants.
I don't.
But I think Washington will do that potentially.
Even if they don't, I think they might be the team that takes what Jamie was talking about earlier, that early day two running back.
And then it just comes a really tricky situation there with Bill Kroski Merritt and with Rashad White on an offense that's offensive line declined clearly last year.
They fired their offensive line coach.
They've a new system in a new offensive line coach.
They get rid of Cliff Kingsbury, which some might think is like a good thing overall.
And it very well might be it is not a good thing for their run game.
If Kingsbury can design a really good run game, the proof is over and over and over again,
over a very large sample size of him coaching a lot of different teams.
So I think the run game takes a major step back in general and just hard to find where the points are coming from for Rashad Wright.
All right, yeah, first pick of round seven seemed a little early for him.
You know, might be a third downback.
We'll see.
Maybe he gets in the mix there and really competes for the starting job.
And then this is an interesting one, Jamie and Dan, but Jamie, you did not like Jalen Waddle.
He went with the ninth pick of round three, Dave took him, and he went after Garrett Wilson, A.J. Brown, and T. Higgins, ahead of Devante Adams, Kairn Williams, and Ladd McConkey. This is Jalen Waddle, round three, pick nine. And you thought that was bad value. Yeah, we literally just had gotten done right before the draft, our emergency podcast. And for me, the earliest, I would take Jalen Wollell's round five. I think if you're going to start to be in on Jalen Wadle, round four, make some sense.
I don't see him as a top 20 receiver in Denver.
And look, there are certainly, there certainly is a path for him to have a very good,
if not great season.
But Cortland Sutton is still there.
We saw last year Denver, fourth in the NFL in pass attempts, 613 pass attempts.
Yeah.
So where does the target distribution go?
So I think if you look at it, in the two years with Bo Nix, the second guy in target.
in 2024, it was 135 targets, I believe, for Cortland Sutton.
Number two was Giovante Williams at 70.
Throw that out.
Now we have year two of Bo Nix.
We have fourth in the NFL and past attempts.
The second guy in targets, Sutton was at 124.
The second guy, 125, whatever it was.
The second guy was Troy Franklin at 104.
So if you're taking the 70 from Ingram,
if you're taking the 70 or whatever it was from Mims,
the targets that went to Pat Bryant,
and you're just consolidating all of them
and saying this is where it goes to Jalen Waddle
and they're both around 120.
Okay, maybe I could see it.
But his best seasons were his first three years.
He was getting over 140 targets per game.
No, 100 and right around 120 some odd targets per game
were the average in those three years.
He's been banged up each of the last two seasons,
even though he's only officially missed three games.
It just feels like it's a huge ask for him to,
go be that guy unless Sutton gets hurt because we have we have a situation where you know they're
they're both going to still get opportunities he's never been a big touchdown guy I just don't know
if Waddle is a number one wide receiver and this is essentially where he got drafted like when you
start to look at those guys in round three like that's the tail end of of the number one receivers
certainly the top 15 guys I can't do it so if if Dave you know has that kind of you know feeling
that Jalen Waddle has potentially career season,
then you're going to draft him there.
For me, if this is where he's going,
he's going to be a bust.
I feel very similar.
Jamie outlined a great case.
And then, you know,
on top of all that,
it's the injury history of Waddle, too.
And that's not something like we're drafting
some full proof players played
just as a long, extensive history
of never being nagging,
banged up with injuries,
never having those in game injuries
that kill you in fantasy,
where you start the player and he plays a few snaps.
So he's almost being drafted as that hasn't happened
because there's all.
those other question marks in addition to the injury history on top of that as Jamie outlined.
So all that together for me makes it so hard to invest anything really near this type of acid.
I know he'll be ranked ultimately around this area because that's just the state of fantasy right now.
There's not a lot of good receivers in fantasy and it dries up quick in that three, you know,
that round three four range.
Yeah, it's a tough ball.
So get it.
When AJ Brown and T. Higgins are off the board in round three, that's where I really.
I start struggling, you know.
You don't like my Evans pick.
You probably don't like my Adams or Evans pick there in round three, four, which I can
fully understand.
I just, okay, so you went Adams in round three, one pick after Waddle.
Then we had Kyron Williams, Ladd-McConkie, and then that's the end of round
three, Dan was picking 10th.
So he goes, Adams at 3-9, then Kyron Williams, Lab McConkey, Luther Burden, a mecca,
Abuka.
That is a pick I really like personally.
I was, I was, so the way that it was, I picked Higgins, right?
before Waddle went, I was like, man, I really want to get a Bucca on the way back.
If I don't get a Bucca, I'm going to jump in and take Loveland if he's still there.
So I would have taken Bucca over Evans.
Like to me, Abuka's better than Waddle.
I like Adams and Evans better than Waddle.
I like McConkey better than Waddle.
I like Burden better than Waddle.
Like I.
Yeah, we're not going to be in our Waddle this year because he's going to end up going in this range.
So I was reading, I think it was the Fantasy Life newsletter.
And they had one of their analysts said, Wadrystian,
25 and one said wide receiver 20.
So that's basically the range.
Like I don't know if he's like this is suggesting top 15.
Receiver?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't.
I mean, I guess Dave is really excited.
Now, obviously Dave is on vacation and, you know, maybe he just, you know, it had, again,
it just happened a few hours before we drafted.
So I don't know if he was just being aggressive.
This is, he took him at the 18th receiver off the board.
There were 17 picked before Waddle.
Right.
I think like if, if, if,
you're really looking at that round, you can argue, if you want to, I would take these guys over Waddle,
but you could argue McMillan versus Waddle, you can argue Flowers versus Waddle, you can argue
Wilson versus Waddle. Now, I think Rice, if there's no issues, A.J. Brown, even on the Eagles,
I think there's a huge gap between those guys, what they can do and what Waddle will do. And for me, Higgins as well,
you know, I took Higgins. I didn't, you know, but, you know, Wilson with his quarterback situation,
and flowers we know is just never really ascended to those heights yet.
And Tet, you know, is he going to do that?
Again, I can argue for Waddle in that case.
I would still take all those guys over Waddle personally.
But, you know, if that's where you want to sort of have some of those conversations, I get it.
It's like with Waddle, it's almost like, sorry, go ahead, Adam.
No, I was with your picks, Adams at 3-9 and then Mike Evans in round two, in round four.
Four, four.
I just wouldn't pair those two.
I like them.
It's a lot of injuries.
Well, let's just say they're old.
You've got two of the oldest wide receivers in the NFL.
Yes.
That might be 20 to 25 touchdowns, though.
Maybe.
Yeah, but both of them are coming off like pretty inefficient seasons,
which I don't necessarily buy.
I thought the tape I watched the Mike Evans was really good.
Adams as well.
Adams, yeah, I don't really understand why the connection.
That's a thing.
I'm just drafting the best guys.
I know they keep getting every year we're going to do this with Adams until it falls off.
and I'll take it.
I'll keep getting the wins
and then when it falls off,
I'll take the one year
where it doesn't happen.
I feel the same with Evans.
I just don't know if I would have gone
back to back Adams and Evans in rounds
three and four.
It's just when you have,
look at the three receivers who went in between.
McConkey, Burden, and Abuka,
that's first and second year guys.
I would have taken Igbuka over,
over obviously Evans, not Adams.
But, and honestly,
thinking back,
I might have rather paired,
but like you said,
Igbuka and Evans or something like that,
But Dan's roster, like if you just look at the first four picks, that's a, I'm going to win or I'm going to finish last place.
Yeah, which is how I play fantasy.
So it checks out.
I've got to say the roster, guys, because McCaffrey, Walker, Adams, Evans.
That's how.
Like if they all hit, you're talking about borderline number one running back, borderline top 10 running back.
Yeah.
Two top 15 caliber receivers.
Right.
You know.
It's still a touchdown game, fans.
I always say this on air because I stand by it.
It's still a touchdown game.
It's hard to predict them.
I understand we don't like to talk about them because they regress and there's some variance
and luck involved in touchdown scoring, but it is still a touchdown game fantasy.
You need guys on teams that are going to score points.
There's a lot of guys on teams that don't score points that get drafted high.
Like Waddle, for example, to me, the path for Waddle to outscore Evans and Adams, I don't see it
unless the Broncos traded for him to be a focal point in the offense.
And that's not something we've seen from Sean Payton with the exception of the Michael Thomas
years, but that was between Thomas and Breeze, where Thomas was Breeze's X, and it's
very, it's not unique, but it was a very specific scenario.
Bo Nix has not proven to be that guy.
Even last year was Sutton, he wasn't that guy when Sutton was playing the X a lot.
So I don't also, sorry, I'm also so surprised that Dave is the one that went in on Waddle
on the team that's still going to be very run heavy.
They were fourth and past attempts.
Huh?
They were fourth and past attempts last year.
But I think that also speaks to Dobbins.
getting hurt in week 10 and you know sort of figuring things out as they as they went along a little bit
I don't think that like if you were to ask Sean Peyton and granted they were you know the the one seat
do do they want to be a run heavy team a balanced team or a past heavy team I don't think he wants to be a pass heavy team
and he wants to be balanced and the reason I say Dave is because Dave they've had great research on
waddle with the run game good in Miami versus the not
No, I think it was more like it was with A-chan and it was A-chan as a receiver.
I thought it was all the above.
I thought when the run game slash A-chan was working.
Maybe.
Denver was 10th and past attempts in the first 10 weeks of this season, by the way.
I don't know when Dobbins got hurt.
I completely, they're not going to be fourth and past attempts per game.
I just, I was really surprised.
I didn't even realize that until yesterday.
Because a lot of those are like those quick around the line of scrimitators that Dayton runs.
That's true.
It's like counts as a past attempt, but it's really like.
extension of his run game, and those might go to Waddle, but like, I don't know for sure if that's how
they're going to use him.
Let's talk about Evans here, because him going in the fourth round, I feel like when the news
broke that he was going to the 49ers, Jamie, I don't think you guys were saying fourth round.
I was a round five guy.
Yeah, all right.
So this was a little earlier than I anticipated.
I may be a round three guy with Evans, like early round three when it's all said done.
It doesn't feel wrong to me.
I mean, you know.
No, I think this is fair.
4.3 here.
So why did you take Evans there?
What do you think about that?
We actually did an episode, just one more shameless plug.
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But on the Beyond the Boxcore new channel, we did do, we are doing deep dive videos as we
always do the long ones.
We're also doing shorter form content.
So we're doing 10, 15, 20 minute episodes on certain players or situations.
We did one on Evans.
And it allowed me to watch a lot of tape.
And I think you said this little earlier, Adam.
his tape was really freaking good last year, man.
Like he's still one of the best receivers in the NFL.
All the separation rates check out with this, by the way.
Like if you look at the advanced metrics,
they tell you that Evans is still getting open,
specifically on the vertical plane.
And that's just something the 49ers have not had since Ayuk.
And I even think from watching the tape,
he does it a lot better than Ayuk does it
when it comes to separating vertically,
stacking the defensive back,
and getting open outside the numbers on the vertical plane.
Iyuk could do it on those in-breakers that Shanahan loves to run,
those deep in cuts, which Evans can do as well, by the way.
He still separates on slants and deep in cuts at a very high level,
but he's going to add a verticality to the 49ers passing game.
That's going to be something we haven't seen in a while.
And just looking at the schematics of the 49ers offense with Christian McAfrey in there,
eventually Kittle gets back in there.
Now Christian Kirk, there's just going to be, this is how they're set up.
There's going to be a lot of eyes on McCaffrey every single play.
So that means there's going to be a lot of one-on-one situations for Evans.
And I think Brock Purdy is better at processing,
than Baker Mayfield. I think he's more accurate.
And I think he's going to be better on the vertical plane than Mayfield was.
Mayfield was, when we watched Mayfield tape last year,
that was a big problem with a Gouca in the second half.
Guga was open on double moves, and Baker didn't get him the ball on time
or he didn't get him the ball accurately.
I think that changes. I think that's a huge jump for his value.
And then it's the red zone stuff for me.
Like, I think he's going to be a total weapon for Shanahan in the red zone.
So I think for me, Evans, I don't know where I'll come down.
I just know it'll be a lot higher than this pick.
And he's going to be ranked aggressively for me.
this year in fantasy.
I think just when you look at it,
the thing you had to justify is,
and everything you said about how they'll use him
is, I'm sure, very accurate.
He's an aging receiver, changing teams,
coming off two years in a row
where he's missed time due to injuries.
And does that help going to a team,
however it happens,
forget about the stupid thing.
Oh, the substation, the electric substation.
But guys get hurt there a lot.
Yeah.
You know, to your point about McCaffrey, like we're also counting on a 30-year-old running back to stay healthy the entire season that hasn't done in back-to-back years in a while.
So if McAfree does get hurt, does the setup for Evans, based on how, you know, you described it, does that still remain the same?
I wouldn't worry too much about that because I think if Evans' healthy is going to get his numbers.
But it's, you know, I think, forget about Adams and then hoping Abuka comes back.
I think the question is, like, do you take Abuka ahead of both?
Do you take McConkey, who could easily bounce back in Mike McDaniel's offense with the Chargers?
I'm not saying you like one of the other.
I'm just posing the theory.
Luther Burden, who I'm sure Jacob would argue, take him over all these guys.
Probably.
You know, burden and his role.
And even comparing Evans to DJ Moore, you know, a similar situation.
You know, a guy going to a new team getting featured, maybe a quarterback upgrade, you know,
in the case like you made, you know, purdy over.
Bainfield, I think, is accurate.
I would obviously argue that Josh Allen's an upgrade for DJ Moore as well.
Like, is DJ Moore in a better spot?
You know, so I think when you start to just lump all these guys together, you know,
you've got to weigh the pros and cons.
And I think, you know, obviously you're very high on Evan, so you take the guy that you want.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if the injury was lower body last year, I've got to get a break in, Dan.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
That's okay.
DJ Moore, by the way, I think he went one pick before I was about to pick in round
four.
and it was one of those
Ah, damn it!
Two picks before me.
Okay, anywho,
let's take a break and come back
and we'll just,
I'll tell you where
Devon A-chan went,
Justin Jefferson,
Ken Walker,
Garrett Wilson,
Colson Loveland,
Roma Dunze,
Wondell Robinson,
Tyler Warren,
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Devon A-chan went seventh overall.
We're going to fire through these here.
You just tell me good or bad value.
He was the third running back off the board.
Bejohn and Gibbs were the first two picks.
Then you had four receivers with Malik neighbors going fifth, which is wild.
Fifth overall.
So it was Bejohn, Gibbs, Chase, Puka, neighbors, JSN, and then Jamie Devon, A-chan.
You were on deck, so I think you had to consider A-chan there, but he goes seventh overall.
I think it's fine for now.
You know, it's going to be tough to, you know, believe in the Dolphins offense.
At the same time, in PPR, this could be the guy who leads the running back position
in receptions based on how this receiving core looks right now, which is ugly.
So this is one of those where I think you've got to see what they do in the NFL draft.
You know, if they go heavy at wide receiver, there's still a couple big-name receivers out there
in free agency that they might be able to get cheap.
Joanne Jennings, Stefan Diggs, for example, if that's a route, they decide to go.
But I think A-chan is still a first-round pick.
I would probably bump him down a couple of spots.
But if you're going to get it,
and this is a spot where he should start to come into consideration.
Justin Jefferson went 12th overall,
which is higher than what we had seen
when we had been doing these drafts in February.
Dan, what do you think about Jefferson 12th?
I want to believe that anyone could produce more fantasy points
for Justin Jefferson than J.J. McCarthy and Carson Wentz combination last year
and that anyone being Kyler Murray.
But I have my reservations with Kyler Murray as well.
So I'm not so sold on this one.
I have to see where I'm going to be at with Jefferson.
He's such a good player.
And he should bounce back with some level of upgrade at quarterback play.
I just, I want to see a little bit of how it's going in camp
and in the preseason and the connection they have,
if he's even starting, by the way.
Are there any players who went after Jefferson, James Cook,
Sequin Barclay, Ken Walker.
And I would take.
Yep.
I would take James Cook for sure.
I would take Drake London.
And I would take Kent.
No, I wouldn't take Ken Walker.
Just go to the best pick in the draft, 22nd overall.
This is what you consider to be the best pick in the draft.
10th pick of round two should have taken over.
Chase Brown?
Yeah.
That is a great pick.
I actually don't know why he's still on the board.
Amazing pick.
Yeah, Chase Brown is underrated.
A quick detour from the free agent.
I took Jamar Chase with the third overall pick.
And then I got Chase.
Brown, who if you guys been listening, I would take them with, I don't know, maybe the eighth or
ninth pick. I love Chase Brown. I got him with the 22nd pick. And I go, you know what? I could
take T. Higgins in round three and Joe Burrow in round four and try it. But it was only a mock draft.
And Josh Jacobs fell to me in round three. I was like, there's no way I can take Higgins over
Josh Jake. It's full P. It was a PPR. Yeah, it's full PPR. And then Burrow actually went with a pick before me in
round in round four but I was like this might be the time to do it you know as I look through this
board it just I don't know if it'll stay this way but right now I feel like you're of a major
advantage picking earlier in the snake draft than than the end because Jacobs Henry like that versus
Walker Barkley hampton like I don't really see much edge to getting Walker Barkley hand your choice
of Walker Barkley hampton and then not getting that early first round guy like Chase yeah maybe
all right so now we go to Ken Walker and you can talk about that
Dan because you took him with the third.
Jamie, do you feel like there's any year, I sorry, I have to ask.
Adam, you too.
I feel like there's any year it's been an advantage to not pick at the top early in the snake.
Really and honestly, do you honestly feel like there's ever been an advantage to it?
To not being.
To not getting the chase, not getting like the really great, to being at the back end of the snake.
Isn't it always a disadvantage?
I mean, I think there's probably always the sentiment that it's a disadvantage going into it.
You know, but I mean, you think about like two years ago.
I know fantasy is unpredictable.
Going into it, Jamie, would you have ever, would you,
did you remember one year where you'd rather have the back end picks of a snake instead of the early picks?
Where I want to?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think anybody wants to have their fate dictated to them as opposed to, you know,
being able to decide the players that you want.
Yeah, but you're supposed to get the extra pick in the second round.
The better pick and this is supposed to be some advantage to it.
So do you ever think that they're, I mean, I again, like, you know,
to the people last year who drafted
Barclay early in the first round
versus the people that took, let's say,
Devon A-chan early in the second round,
like the advantage that you got
if you took, let's say,
McCaffrey who fell to the back end of the round one,
if you had McAfree A-chan.
Like, I had one league like that.
You can work out. I get it, but.
I'm trying to look at...
If you've ever felt that way.
I don't think you're going to come out of players.
You don't ever want to be...
be in a situation in life where people are saying you have to wait for what you want as a
what you want.
Do you think fantasy a lot of the years we have like three or four really different players
on a different tier?
And then a lot of the time you're supposed to get the edge back in the snake in the second
round.
But then we see stuff like this where it's like, I don't know, man, Jacob's Chase Brown and Henry.
But like Adam, for example, just taking what he just said, he has a strong feeling about
Chase Brown. Chase Brown is probably going to go ADP-wise. My guess would be anywhere from 13,
because I don't think he's going to be drafted as a first round pick. Adam said he would take him
an eight. So 13 through 24, right? So if Adam knows he's picking at the back end of round one,
he knows he can, let's say, start his team with Amara St. Brown and Chase Brown and be thrilled
about that, right, Adam? Of course, yeah. I'm trying to, sorry, I'm looking up, I'm doing a little
experiment here to test this theory. But yes, Amonra St. Brown and Chase Brown would fire me up.
Right. So you know based on where Chase Brown is going to go.
That's a player you're targeting that's going to have an ADP early in round two, most likely.
So you know you're going to get, if you're picking at the back end versus you're picking at the top of the draft.
And you're like, man, I don't know if I want Puka or Chase, if I want Bijon or Gibbs.
If I screw this up, my team's going to suck.
If one guy gets hurt, like, you know, you can certainly play it out that way.
Okay, guys, I'm going to tell you this.
I'm looking at about six of my leagues.
And who won?
Fantasy football today, Jack Capitorto won.
he had the 12th pick.
B-Chad Smith League, I won.
I had the first pick.
Superflex league?
10-team league.
No, I'm not doing any Superflex.
You're not doing the Superflex league
that we both played in that I won?
No, because Superflex,
this is completely irrelevant.
This argument is irrelevant
in Superflex leagues
in terms of where you're drafting.
This is a Friends League that I'm in.
Greg won.
He had the third pick.
This is my FFT Open League,
the guy who won my division.
had the 10th pick.
The
Joey Wright,
who's actually in the chat
right now,
listening to the show,
he won our IDP league.
He had the third pick.
So I took five leagues.
Three of the five winners
had picks one through.
The IDP league,
but you won't count the Superflex league.
This argument about when to drafts,
we've never seen a sample size
as big as this one.
I'm just saying that
when did,
what,
is it better to have an early pick
or a late pick is
completely different in Superflex
than it is in a one-quarterback league.
So that's why I was just
looking at the one quarterback.
It's not different in IDP link.
Not really, because the IDPs, they don't start going off the board until pretty late.
I'm kind of with Adam on this one, but I'm definitely not with Adam on.
Let's take a poll of five leagues.
Okay, I'm just saying three of three leagues, the top three picks won.
Yeah.
And then the other two was 10th and 12th.
So I think there's been some studies that show that picking early is better.
But it's not like I get a late pick and I'm like, oh, I can't win this league now.
The fact that it's not that you can't win this league now.
I just feel like you're just at a little bit of a disadvantage.
Thanks for the detour.
Can we talk about why you took Ken Walker so early?
Yeah.
So Ken Walker obviously joins the Chiefs.
The upside is through the roof for me in my mind with that fit.
Just from a schematic standpoint, I like him in the run game.
I think they're going to be using him more in the passing game as we move forward.
And that's something we saw flashes of in Seattle.
We actually saw it a little bit early last season.
I got excited about it.
And then it fizzled out.
So did his role.
But, you know, Pacheco leaves, goes to Detroit.
I don't are did they resign cream hunt yet are they going to resign cream hunt not yet right he's still
free and I'm pretty sure um so I just think he's in a really good spot and I believe in that team and
even like the weeks where they're going to have to start just in fields that's like a good thing I think
for a walker I don't think that's a bad thing at all maybe the scoring will go down but the opportunities
will go up he'll get more lighter boxes with fields taking a defender that lead defender has to
you know account for him on any kind of zone read so I like the fit I like the
talent and I'm I've never really bought Walker this will be the first draft I probably ever
drafted Walker even mock draft that I've ever drafted him this is going to be the first year I'm
going to consider getting in on Walker okay now after Ken Walker Drake London who is going to have
potentially have a new quarterback he went 16th which is you know pretty normal right just
ahead of Nico Collins ashton gentie I put him oh nothing really happened not just a new quarterback
for London Tua yeah well what do you mean that's just not a good good
thing. It's like it's a new quarterback and it might be worse.
Might be. I'm not sure. Yeah.
Ashton Genty at 2.8th pick of round two. Why did I put them in here? Well, they got the best,
arguably the best free agent. They got tied to Linderbomb at center. So hopefully that helps
Ashton Genti. Okay. Then we get to round three, which had Garrett Wilson. Jamie, he went
ahead of A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson with a new quarterback, Gino Smith. He went ahead of A.J.
Brown and T. Higgins. Was that the right pick there?
I don't love it ahead of some of the other wide receivers.
We spoke about this, I believe, with Joe, PCPA, about where Garrett Wilson should go.
Like, Gino Smith, I think, will be fine for him.
It's not the ideal quarterback upgrade that we were hoping for.
I just think if Garrett Wilson stays healthy, there's an opportunity for him to be a borderline top-tel receiver.
So he's in this range.
I just prefer the upside of Brown and Higgins more so than I do Wilson right now.
I wonder if Wilson did not get selected there.
Could he have potentially gone back to Johnny in the fourth round?
Like it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
Wilson, to me, is like the best example of what we were talking about earlier,
which is like there's such a dearth of talent.
Or dearth is maybe not the right word.
I'm looking for the other word, the opposite of it.
Or maybe I am.
At wide receiver and fantasy.
Dirt.
Yeah.
Okay.
That a player like Wilson who's literally never lived up to his ADP,
every year we have his ADP too much.
No, well, he did last year.
Oh, he was so low last year.
No, it wasn't that low.
He had a great year last year.
I don't think you could say he had a great year when he played five.
He had a great year last year.
Is that what you're saying?
He was a top 10 wide receiver in the first six weeks of the year.
Then he came back.
He had 395 total yards.
He played seven games.
He left two of them early.
Right.
That's not good.
Okay, but he performed well.
If you drafted Garrett Wilson, you weren't happy.
We were when he was healthy.
But that's not the game.
Well, he doesn't have a history of injury.
You can't say great year when a guy plays five games.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
He was a, while he played, he was a great, he was a great value.
Yes, but you can't say great year.
He didn't play a lot.
It's a wild take for me.
That's like, that's like your Azer Stadding a calendar.
This is an Azer Stating.
Azer Stating my ass.
He had 71 or more yards in four of his first five games.
But you're saying great year.
Like in real life, you'd be Azer Stadding a calendar.
and saying, wow, can't wait to celebrate New Year is July 31st.
The first five weeks of the season,
Garrett Wilson was insane.
You can't call it.
I don't think anyone besides you would call Garrett Wilson a great value last year.
I'm saying, no, fine.
All due.
He performed.
Like, Gary Wilson has a lot of talent.
You can watch the tape and you can see it,
but he just really has disappointed in fantasy every single year.
Maybe not bad value,
maybe not the right word for me to use,
but just disappointment at where you pick him.
He performed a lot of expectations for the five games that he played.
But you cannot say he had a great year.
Okay.
First, he played seven games.
The first five games were amazing.
The sixth game, he got Sertand.
And then he didn't play in the seventh game.
And then he played 19 snaps in the second game.
And the season was over, and that's a great season.
No, it's not a great season.
But what he did is, what he did last year is enough to justify him going
in the third round.
Is it?
For example, for example, Rishi Rice played three healthy games in 2024.
What he did was so good in those three games that combined with the last six games of
his rookie season, it justified him going very early.
I don't know if that justified him or that and the combination of, I don't know,
he had a quarterback that maybe is pretty good.
Yeah, and a role that was so defined.
But I'm just saying, if you look at what Garrett Wilson did last year was pretty similar to
what Rishi Rice did.
But to justify where they were drafted last year for Rice, this year for Wilson.
Rice was drafted later because he was facing a suspension.
I'm just saying is what I'm saying is the justification is that one had a quarterback too.
Like if Wilson had gotten on offense is the power slot.
If Wilson got Kyler Murray, right, Garrett Wilson, Kyleor Murray's decided to go to the Jets instead of going to the Vikings.
We might be talking about Garrett Wilson in a round two.
It makes me frustrated when.
I think, in my opinion, I am making a very clear, normal, wonderful point.
And it's like you guys are hearing it in a different language.
Like I'm using Google Translate.
That can be so frustrating.
That can be so frustrating.
That he said a very strange phrase in regards to Garrett Wilson, that he had a great year.
Well, he did say that.
He didn't play the year.
If you just look at the six healthy games he played, he was a top 10 wide receiver.
And he did that with- But you used the phrase, great year.
Well, okay, obviously, I meant on a per-game basis, which is more important than overall.
because in the first three years of his career,
Garrett Wilson stayed healthy and wasn't,
he ended up with like,
yeah,
he was top 24 riders year,
but he wasn't even close to that per game.
That is when he didn't just.
I understand what you're saying.
I just think to say,
when you're looking at the totality of Garrett Wilson,
like the injury plagued year that he had in 2025
has to be taken to account.
Why?
Because we have not seen him do that over a full season.
I agree.
Now, if he had done that, let's say,
five more games.
Right. Then I think you could say, wow, this guy's awesome.
And now he has a good.
Yeah, no, I mean, I agree with that.
That's why I think he should not have gone,
he should not have gone ahead of A.J. Brown and T. Higgins.
But when you start talking about risky wide receivers like Ladd McConkey coming off a bad year,
and Devante Adams being 33, I believe, or Jalen Waddle, who he just talked about,
I think Garrett Wilson belongs in that group.
Yes.
All right. So we all agree with everything.
It's just not my evaluation of his season.
All right. Next up was round four.
was almost exclusively players who were affected in some way by free agency or traits.
Yep.
And you tell me good or bad value.
Luther Bird and first pick of round four.
Good.
Fair value.
Ameca, Buka, second pick.
Good value.
Evans, third pick.
Fair value.
So you ask.
I say good.
It's good for Dan, fair for Jamie.
Colston Loveland, since you guys are kind of...
You miss Gadabu.
That's an interesting one.
Was he affected by free agency?
Oh, I think he spent all for a fourth round pick, sorry.
Well, he was.
The Giants didn't sign anybody, and they were rumored to sign.
Yeah, I know.
I couldn't include everyone.
Okay.
So.
Fair value.
Colston Loveland.
You go, Jamie then Dan.
Colston Loveland, 4.5.
Fair.
Fair value.
So Jamie than Dan.
Travis E.T.N.
seventh pick of round four for E.N.
Good value.
Meh.
Oh.
Interesting. Go ahead, Dan.
I'm not that high on this E-TN-Saint thing.
A-chan, but why?
Oh, A-chan.
I have to call him A-chan now.
I don't care.
I don't even know what.
Is that what he asked?
Yeah, it's what he said.
He said, I was always supposed to be called A-chan.
That's his name.
He said people, he was always A-chan.
People, once he got to Clemson had a hard time pronouncing it.
Dude, why are so many of these athletes just accepting wrong names?
It's crazy.
This could never, this could never fly with me.
People were just calling me Schneier my whole life.
I'd be like, no, it Schneier.
Like, it's just not, it's going to sit there and take it.
It makes no sense.
Like, A.N doesn't even sound like Achan.
I don't know why people are so dumb.
Is it A chain or is it Achan?
It's got to be A chain, right?
He said.
A. Chan.
Wow.
All right.
Well, Travis A. Chan.
No, I don't, I'm not, I don't hate it, but I'm not in love with that value at all.
All right.
All right.
We move on.
DJ Moore, eighth pick of round four.
Fair value.
For me, it's border.
It's fair, bordering low.
I'm not as high on that as you guys are.
How about
Bucky Irving, 10th pick of round four?
Ooh. Good value.
He's like the talent enough, so I'll say good value,
and the O line's great, but a little tricky
that situation, my running back.
Romo Dunezay, last pick of round four,
48th overall, Romo Dunezay.
Fair value.
Meh, value. I don't see it happening.
So O'Dunzee went 48th, and then 49,
50 and 51 were also wide receivers.
Can we talk about the fact that we just took three bears receiving options in one round?
Yeah. It's massively run first team.
It's a great point. But after O'Donze, it was Jameson, William, Terry McLaren, and Devante
Smith. But yes, Dan, we can talk about that. It's putting a lot of faith into the Bears' offense
for sure. And when did DeAndre's putting faith in their passing game? Because their offense is great,
but they're a run first team. Where didn't Swift go, Jamie? Why am I? Oh, he went to our
day at the end of round five.
I think the best value of all these players is McLaurin.
Take McLaurin over like every one of these guys, I think.
So Swift was the first pick, first pick around six.
Yeah, well you think it's too rich for, for these picks, Dan?
All three bears patchers past characters?
I just think that if it's not, I don't know individually if it's too rich.
I just know there are a run first team, the bears, that run the ball really well.
And we're taking three of their receiving options in the fourth round.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even.
I think Caleb Williams got to, because I think we would have heard the story on it.
He didn't get to 4,000 passing yards last year, right?
No.
No, he fell just short.
I think the thing when you're looking at these guys is you're, it's almost, we're back
in a similar boat to where we were last year of who is going to ascend to the top of the,
I don't want to say depth chart, but who's going to ascend to the top of the mountain from a,
a leader of this group.
And I think if you, if you look at it just in the totality of it, you probably,
going to look at the upside of what burden can do or the upside of what Loveland can do
and maybe just sort of settle for O'Donzee as the third option. I don't think anybody's going to
put O'Donzee above the other two because of what their potential could be. Then you sort of
separate, okay, the two receivers versus the tight end. So like to me, Loveland right now is the third
tight end off the board. Should be the third tight end off the board. And then when do you want to
sort of jump in on him knowing that McBride and Bowers are going to be somewhere between probably
11 and 24, they went, you know, middle of round two for McBride, end of round two for Bowers.
Like I told you before, if a Bucco is there, I would have taken a Bucca over Loveland, but Loveland, to me, in round four is a good spot to take a chance on him.
Burden has not shown the consistency yet of being a guy that's going to take a leap forward.
Obviously, this move to get rid of DJ Moore opens the door for both these guys to, you know, showcase their skill set.
at least in the case of Odunze, you saw at the beginning of last season in Ben Johnson's
offense, a great stretch of production. Now, Burden didn't get that opportunity. We saw it a little
bit toward the end of the year when Odunze had the foot injury and Loveland was still sort of
battling through whatever shoulder, you know, just not being ready yet to take that leap of
being featured. I don't mind it for these guys where they went. You know, Burden in that range
of wide receivers, you know, Adams, McConkey, Burden, Abuka, Evans. I would probably have
burden behind like i like abuka better i like maca better but i you know you make an argument for
burden just you know uh of what he can be um but again where odunzee went like yes you can make
arguments for uh jamison williams terry mcclorn devonte smith even marvin harrison in my mind
uh that maybe they're better than o duncee because you know you're talking about what jamison
has shown mcclorn bouncing back devonthe smith you know whatever uh all these guys have have you know
similar sort of chances to ascend to being, you know, top 20 caliber wide receivers.
I just think now you take DJ more off the field.
It's not like we're talking about a guy that had 140 targets.
It was 85 targets last year.
It wasn't like it was a big number.
But now you're just opening the door for all three of these guys to get opportunities.
And if you buy into Ben Johnson, which I'm sure everybody does this point, if you buy into
Caleb Williams, which I think a lot of people are starting to, and you hear what Ben
Johnson said at the combine, like we're just getting started.
like hopefully Caleb Williams
you know 4,000 should be
an afterthought this year
if he continues to play like he's capable of playing
I know Dan you were
his rookie season saying he was going to know that was one of your bowl
predictions he's going to be the first Bears quarterback to go
4,000 yards and it made a lot of sense and
even more so to double down on that last year you know he was
he was close to it I think we could be looking at a 43
4, 4,400 yard season for Caleb Williams
and hopefully we're talking about you know
35 passing touchdowns
that's all that's the scene that's
that's a crazy projection because Dan is right.
They are very run heavy.
I think they ran the second most plays in football last year.
So it was kind of hard to see how run heavy they were
because there were a lot of pass attempts
because they ran so many plays.
If they ran a normal amount of plays,
I think we would have been frustrated by the pass volume
if the rates, you know, the pass rate had been the same.
I think if you, look, if it's too rich for you,
just draft Caleb Williams.
You want to get a piece of the bear's passing game.
draft Caleb Williams later.
Reminds.
But the Jamie's point, if Caleb takes that step forward that we believe is possible,
then I think they become a more pass-heavy team.
I think part of why they were so run-heavy,
A, because they're successful with it and Ben Johnson's great at design in the run game,
but also because there were limitations when you watch Caleb Williams on film from a processing standpoint.
It reminds me a little bit of the Chiefs last year who had three pass catchers going
kind of in the round five to six range, which is a little bit different because Rice was facing the six-game suspension.
But Worthy, Kelsey and Wright,
and honestly Mahomes and Pacheco
were all going in the same
probably two round range.
Right.
I think though in the case
in the case of the bears,
again, you're swinging for the fences here.
You know, Loveland, what he showed
at the end of the season,
four straight games of 10 plus targets.
You don't get that at that position
with his upside.
Burden in the two, three game sample size
that we saw look like he could be really special,
especially what he does from, you know,
a secondary metrics perspective.
and O'Donzee, you know, to what Dan said at the start of the show about Adams and Evans,
O'Donzee could be their touchdown leader.
You know, we're talking about a guy that could be eight plus touchdowns.
So it's not like you're saying I'm getting these guys to guarantee me this production.
I'm taking chances on these three young wide receivers, two second year guys, one third year guy,
that if one of them hits, okay, I like the scenario of where I drafted him,
if all three of them hits and nobody took, you know, doubled up on these guys.
But if all three of them hit, to your point, Adam, Caleb Williams,
a big year you got great value where you drafted them as a starter but i got maybe the top
you know the number three tight end or a top three tight end and i got you know one of the top 20
wide receivers because i think that's their range of outcome it could be pretty special for
these guys if they hit yeah i think it's also a statement about the wide receivers and just
there aren't that many appealing options especially when you get to the 50s in the draft but but also
just just looking at it like burden for where r j drafted him that's his third receiver love that
Yeah.
O'Donze, second receiver, but where Alfredo drafted, it was, you know, McMillan and O'Donzee.
No, no, I'm sorry, it was O'Donzee and Jameson back to back.
So that was essentially his two and his three.
Okay, let's move on, guys.
David Montgomery, round five in between Travion Henderson and Giovante Williams,
middle of round five, David Montgomery with the Texans.
Rather have Javante over both.
Yeah, Javante.
just very, very undervalued in this draft.
Wondale Robinson, 11th pick of round five.
And then Tyler Warren.
It's like back-to-back picks.
I really didn't like the Wondale pick, and I love the Tyler Warren pick.
It's funny.
I'm like almost the opposite.
I don't love the Wondell pick, but I like it.
I think that the role is clear.
You watch any Cam Ward last year.
You see they had no outlet in the passing game, and that was a huge issue for them,
which is what Dave L was going to give them with his slot.
It's how it always works.
So I just think it's forced-fed targets.
Warren, like, I don't want to put my Hawkinson stamp on him.
You know my Hawkinson stamp.
I said last year, Hawkinson was undraftable before the year.
I think I was probably pretty much proven right on that, I think.
Was Hawkinson ever worth starting last year?
I'm not going to put that on Warren.
Yeah, Warren's way too talented.
But I don't see it the way you guys do with Warren.
If you look toward the end of that season, once that, you know,
version of the Colts offense that really thrive for the first five, six weeks of the season
was figured out on tape and adjusted to.
They went away from Warren,
and there weren't as many of those manufactured targets.
He did not get away from Warren.
Oh, I think you're looking at this the wrong way, Dan.
I mean, Daniel Jones broke his leg.
That's when things fell apart.
Okay.
Maybe it is just a Jones injury.
But he's coming off of torn Achilles,
so it is worth mentioning.
Yeah,
they also removed a pretty big piece of the puzzle.
Yeah.
What did you say?
They removed a very big piece of the puzzle.
In Pittman,
which could help Warren from a target standpoint,
the same time.
coming off the Achilles, they lost Braden Smith, their right tackle to the Texans, didn't replace him yet.
I'm just, I was wrong.
You know, obviously I was wrong with Jones, I guess.
We're calling him a great quarterback in the NFL at this point.
I don't know.
No, nobody's saying that.
I don't know what to say on that front, but I don't think I'll be buying on the Colts this next year.
I know that.
I mean, that's certainly a fair sentiment.
I just think, like, what Tyler Warren showed when Daniel Jones was healthy?
Forget about what you think about.
Okay, that's fair.
When they had their starting quarterback healthy,
when Shane Steichen's offense was working,
and you could say figured out,
and that's fair because, you know, again,
you get a nine-game sample size
of what a team's starting to do.
By that point in the season,
you're starting to get ideas
of how to slow them down.
But you went from Daniel Jones
operating this offense,
being very successful.
I think Adam, you said at that point
there was the number one offense in the NFL, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
Then he breaks his leg,
plays three and a half games,
essentially,
with a broken leg
and Tyler Warren's stats go in the tank
and then he tears his Achilles
and now we're talking about
58 year old Philip Rivers coming in
and Tyler Warren was never the same.
That's fair. That's fair.
So I find it fascinating that
you take Leporta
and factor in
Warren where he went two picks later
and then around later
Harold Fanon goes
why Leporta over the two young titan?
Now you obviously made your case for Warren
but why over Fanon?
Oh, I love the Loporta pairing with Drew Petsing.
The Drew Petsing thing is just, I think Loporta is the easiest breakout tight end this year because of Drew Petsing.
Just look at the work he's done with Trey McRae, just from a developmental standpoint with McRy,
but then mostly just how the targets were manufactured for McBride through multiple different quarterbacks,
Kyler and obviously Jacoby Percett.
The touchdowns weren't there with Kyler because Kyler is that quite a quarterback.
But you think that happens with the other weapons that Detroit has?
Troy has.
Well, I mean, they are outside receiver.
Amon Ra is an inside guy, so that could complicate things because
and a run game.
Arizona made for sure that maybe Arizona definitely didn't have.
Don't think the volume's going to be like it was for McBride.
Let me make that clear.
I don't think LaPorte is going to return first round value or second round value.
I think in round five, though, with the Drew Petzing bunk, sorry, and just I like
LePorte as a prospect and a player, I'm okay taking him there.
I would take him over.
obviously I took him over Warren,
but Warren Fanon,
looking down the board,
crafts interesting,
I might consider that,
but I'm very eye on LaPorta.
I think I'll probably have him ranked
as my fourth tight end.
I don't think LaPorta's getting 100 targets.
I mean, let's see.
I think that's,
what did McBride get?
I think that's the
Bride got like a hundred.
Dealing,
but that's close to it.
150-ish, I don't know.
Well,
you can't compare McBride and Leporty.
He had a,
I don't know.
He had 169 targets in 17 games.
McBride.
What about the,
year before.
If you have that, if it's easy to find.
147 targets in 16.
Yeah, I mean, this is just, this is the number, I think this is the premier offense from a
target volume standpoint for a tight end to be in, a Drew Petsing offense.
I don't think there's really an end date.
I just struggle with that whole philosophy.
I would take to Fatsky who was his boss.
I don't know.
I just, I struggle with that philosophy.
Did they throw to Trey McBride because he's a tight end?
Or did they throw to Trey McBride because he's the best past catcher on the team?
They're not playing with Amman-Ross, St. Brown and Jameson Williams.
that that's a question everybody's going to have to ask themselves.
I believe the answer is because of the scheme.
Well, listen, it's definitely a benefit for Leporta to get petting.
I think it's also two things we've got to see what happens.
Dan Campbell last year took over play Calling Duty.
How much of that is still going to be a factor?
You know, does he still want to do that and just have somebody design different plays for him?
Or, you know, he just wants a figurehead in that role, you know, somebody in the meetings to, you know, help out.
Arizona's personnel so different than Detroit's personnel, you know, looking at what they have, certainly in the backfield, obviously at wide receiver.
And I don't think Leporta's as good as Jay McBride.
I don't think he's as good at an athlete or a talent.
So the touchdowns could certainly be there for Leporta.
We've seen that.
We saw in his rookie season.
He could be a 10 touchdown guy.
I don't know if he's going to be more than a 100 target guy.
And that's where the problem is in.
So Petting comes from.
from that Stefansky tree, which when he was in Cleveland with Stefansky, the tight ends were great.
Stafansky's tight ends were still great after Petzing left.
Petting's tight ends were great in Arizona, or tight end was great in Arizona.
So I think you get elite level player, you feature him.
I don't know if Leporta is elite level player.
I think he's above average level player.
He's shown that.
So what I would probably suggest to you, Dan, next time, if you have that feeling and you know you're on an end,
And they're still Warren and Fanon on the board.
True.
Like you probably wait around.
Yeah, you're right about that for sure.
Well, we're out of time.
So.
Yeah, we'll have to get to, I mean, there was so much more.
We can always pick this up next week.
We'll do the mailbag, though, on Thursday.
And please send your questions to fantasy football at cbsi.com.
You didn't think my first show back since the season was going to be a short one, did you?
No, I mean, it was interesting stuff.
Just,
uh,
okay,
good.
There's so many things that,
you know,
one thing I haven't brought up,
but I just would love to at some point is how I actually think that the
Mike Evan signing could be good for Ricky Pearson.
I would have not talked about that at all.
Interesting.
I just don't think he was playing the role.
I don't disagree.
Well,
he was running deep routes last year.
In the beginning of the season,
the preseason,
Kyle Shanhan talked about how Ricky Pearson has such good hands and he really fits
in well with the yak concepts that they like and he's going to catch the ball
and he's going to do a lot after the cap.
Then he became this very high route depth guy running clear-out routes all the time for getting other guys involved.
And now Mike Evans is going to be running the downfield routes.
And I think it's going to really help Ricky Pearson and put him in a role that he can thrive in.
He went with the ninth pick of round seven.
So just a lot of free agency that we haven't talked about.
And I look forward to getting into that.
But tomorrow mailbag, bracket challenge, cbsports.com slash fFT.
Thanks a lot to Dan.
Thanks a lot for Jamie.
And to all of you for watching and listening.
I'm Adam. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Team.
