Fantasy Football Today - Mock Draft Review Part Two: Best Picks in Round 5 and Beyond (03/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

We get fresh takes on the Jaylen Waddle trade (3:25) from Dave and Heath. How many targets can he get in Denver? Is 130 out of the question? ... Picking up where we left off last week as we review our 12-team, 3-WR, PPR mock draft and focus on the players affected by free agency and trades. We start in Round 5 (10:00) with David Montgomery, Wan'Dale Robinson and Tyler Warren before moving to Rounds 6 and 7 (15:45). We've got a few running backs who might be ready to step into a featured role including Chuba Hubbard and Bhayshul Tuten. There is also a wide receiver run which includes Courtland Sutton, Romeo Doubs, Alec Pierce and more ... As we look at Round 8 and beyond (31:40), we focus on players likes Jaylen Warren, JK Dobbins, Zach Charbonnet, Kenneth Gainwell, Michael Pittman, the Cardinals running backs, Travis Kelce, Isaiah Likely, Calvin Ridley, Malik Willis and Kyler Murray ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What a play! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It is Monday, March 23rd. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football today. Adam, Dave, Jamie Heath here. Going through the draft that we talked about on Wednesday,

but this is part two, because Wednesday we only got through the first five rounds. If you want to hear that show, that was Ken Walker going with the third pick of round two, Ashton Genty later in the round. We talked about everybody who was affected in some way, shape, or form by free agency or trades. We talked about Garrett Wilson. We talked a lot about him in round six, or sorry, a sixth pick of round three ahead of A.J. Brown and T. Higgins.

And then we got to Jalen Waddle, who had just been traded to the Denver Broncos. Good morning, Jamie. Good morning. Good morning, Dave. What's up? Good morning, Heath. Hey, Adam. This is fantasy football today history.

The first time that all four of us have had our favorite team eliminated on the same day, eliminated from the postseason on the same day. Heath, it was fun, but yeah, it was kind of crazy. I guess it's not really possible because, like, I don't know if any of us root for a team. I don't know if there's a sport where we all have a team. well but in this one two of us have the same team so it was really just three teams losing right yeah right yeah but even still like we all dan dan was wearing his wisconsin jersey on his last jersey on our last show at least we made it to the second round yeah we don't have a football let not everybody here has a football team right not everybody here is a heat do you

consider yourself a heat fan jami i guess so okay so we all have an NBA team but yeah today who's my NBA team the bulls Really? Yeah. Heath is Kansas. Someone asks us, Heath Missouri. You know, Heath is Kansas. We got Miami.

We got Florida. And we all, we all got to throw out our bracket. No, our brackets might be okay. Anyway, hope everybody's. Yeah, not Jamie's. Hope everybody's been enjoying the tournament so far. And, you know, hoping you're competing. We had about 1,000 entries.

Let's get to the show. And Dave took Jalen Waddle. with the ninth pick of round three. And that was the first time we did a draft. It was, I think, the day after the trade. It was the first time we got to see. Day of the trade. It was the day of the trade.

It was literally like 60 minutes after the trade. Remember, we did our emergency podcast right before the draft started. Right. We did the podcast talking about it the day after the trade. But Dave, we thought a little too early, 3.9 for Jalen Waddle. What do you think? Well, I, I think. if I could do it again, there might have been one receiver that I would have taken ahead of

Waddle when I ended up taking Waddle, but I love this fit Waddle in Denver. He gives them something that they miss sorely over the last couple of seasons. I think about Bo Nix and what is he best at? It's getting the ball out quickly. It's his mobility, short area accuracy. We've seen Waddle dominate there before. They can use them that way, but they can also use them on intermediate in-breaking routes. He can be used on downfield throw. I went back and watched his film from 2025. He can still run. He can still cut.

He's still a very, very good wide receiver. I fully expect him to be Denver's number one wide receiver. I don't love Denver's run game. And I think about the defenses now in the AFC West. Who's the best cornerback in the AFC West right now? That's not on his team. Well, go ahead. You can say Pat Sartan, because that's on his team.

Who's second best? Chiefs just unloaded there, guys. Raiders don't have anyone on the chargers. Yeah, I mean, I think there's going to be ample opportunity for Waddle to bounce back in the eyes of fantasy managers. We're looking for catches. We're looking for yards. We're looking for touchdowns. I'm a little leery about how many touchdowns he'll get. But I think he's got upside to get 85 plus catches well over 1,000 yards. Call it seven touchdowns if the season goes as well as again. and he's got the same type of flaws that we would say about Mike Evans, where we don't know if he's going to play 17 games.

We know that he's got an injury history. So would I take him in the exact same spot. I can't say that I would if we did it again. But it's close. And I think he's definitely in the range of at minimum a round four pick if it's full PPR. So I wasn't in this draft, but like end of round four, how many, what wide receiver is that? Wait, into round three where he went? And about three.

Yeah. How many wide receivers have been taken at that point? A bunch. And this was also part of the reason why I took Waddle's, because a lot of the guys that I had queued up that I would have taken over Waddle got picked. I would have taken Garrett Wilson. Rice went in early round three. Flowers went in early middle round three.

A.J. Brown. T. Higgins, I was on the fence about it. He was wide receiver 18. Wide receiver 18. Okay. Some frame of reference in terms of where I got him in the early projection. and maybe a couple of spots. Like, I probably got closer to 22,

but the interesting thing will be, we've seen Sean Payton kind of functioned in a couple different ways, and now he's not really technically calling the offense. So is this going, maybe he is, is this going to be a typical spread the ball around to 93 different guys, or is it going to be one guy gets 130 targets?

I think with Sutton's still there, it's probably more of a spread the ball around. So I'm about 10 catches lower than what Dave said. And one touchdown lower, 75 for 150, 1,100 yards, six touchdowns. Yeah, Dave, my last follow-up here, and then we can move on is you don't seem concerned about Cortland Sutton. Is that accurate? I don't think the Broncos gave up what they gave up to have somebody as a 1B to Cortland Sutton as the 1A. No, it's not.

And I'm certainly not concerned about Troy Franklin, Marvin Mims, Pat Bryant, all those other guys. I think Waddle's going to be the target leader in Denver. Yeah, no, I think we think that, but it'd be more like, is Sutton going to be the one B to Waddle's 1A? You know, is he going to prevent Waddle from getting even 120 targets or certainly 130 targets? No. No? No. I think the biggest area where Sutton can affect Waddle as touchdowns.

I think you nailed it at him. That's the biggest problem I have with Waddle. Me too. Okay. Okay. Well, we've talked a lot about Waddle last week, so we'll talk about some other guys today, including the Buccaneers situation with Chris Godwin,

going with the 11th pick of round six. The Packers, wide receivers, they lost Romeo Dobbs. Christian Watson went just ahead of Romeo Dobbs. But, Jamie, I guess didn't like my Matthew Golden pick in round eight. No. Wondell Robinson was in round five. Before we get to that, just remember, Beyond the Box Score has Dan's not here, so I have to plug something in honor of Dan.

Beyond the Box Score has its own YouTube channel now, so just go to YouTube and type in Beyond the Box Score. They also obviously have their own podcast feed, which they have had. It's a fantastic show with great information, Beyond the Box Score. And Heath, what's coming up on FFT Dynasty? Hopefully, Dan. You know, I've been asking him for like a month now to come on FFG Dynasty. Gibbs came on a couple weeks ago.

We had a good conversation. We're getting really, I'm scheduling all of the rookie position previews, which will start very, very shortly, probably as soon as next week. And it's about time to do a dynasty mock draft as well. Okay, guys. So if we look at, by the way, just tell Dan that if he comes on, he can promote beyond the bog score. He'll come on.

I'll just, yeah, we'll tell him we can talk Wisconsin and Kansas and Miami and Florida. It'd be fun. You have to say, like, what was the high point? of the game for you, you know, because they lost. That would be, that would be, that would be, that will be on the list, except I'll say this was, Adam gave me this question. No, don't, because I'm not that guy. Like, I wouldn't do that to his face.

Oh, I'll just, how about just what has been the high point of the tournament for you? Okay. Okay. On a scale of five to 12, what would you say was the high point? All right, players affected by free agency or trades. Remember David Montgomery? Six months ago, it seems like. He went to the Houston Texans.

He went with the fifth pick of round five. Oh, we did this one. Did we do round five? I think you jumped around a little bit. And then you said, we probably should do another show on this draft. I don't remember where we left off, round five or round six, damn it? I don't remember either. All right, we'll just do round five real quick.

Montgomery was in between Travian Henderson and Giovante Williams. I think we decided we like Giovante better than Montgomery, right? Yes, for sure. Okay. But do we like Travion or Montgomery? What's this full PPR? Yeah. Yeah, I would.

I would take the upside of Henderson. I think it depends on your build, though. You know, like if you need a little bit more of a solid floor, I think Montgomery's floor is probably going to be a little bit safer, clearly. But the upside for Henderson is obvious if he can get the chance to, you know, keep Ramandre on the sideline and show what he did in the few games that Ramonj was injured. But obviously, as we saw down the stretch and in the playoffs,

it was the remandre show, and that's the fear going into 2025, 226, excuse. Okay, I did not like the Wondale pick at 511. Of course. But was I, I mean, even that, when I asked you guys, where are you drafting him? Nobody said round five. Now, granted, this is almost round six. We did say round five.

No way. Yeah. Really? Yeah. That was more like whole PPR, right? Yeah. Yeah, this is the range. What wide receiver was here?

19. That's not true. There was no one pick between Waddle and. Wondale. I don't know. I can count for you. Probably around 30. I don't think that one will pick

was a good pick by Dave then. At the end of a tier. I don't know. Late 20s. Okay, fine. You like it, Heath? You like Wondale 11th pick of round 5? He's wide receiver 30.

Wide receiver 30. So that seems just about right in full PPR. Maybe just a tad high. What about Tyler Warren with the next pick? Another guy affected by free agency. Last pick of round five. He went around and a half after Loveland, two picks after Laporta, three picks before, four picks before Harold Fanon, Dave.

Tyler Warren. It's hard to get, it's hard to discount Warren compared to the, at least compared to Fanon now, with Pittman leaving Indianapolis. I don't know if he's going to be replaced. I'm guessing he's not. And that means Warren is in line to see north of six targets per game. That's the number that I always look for from tight end. I moved him ahead of Fanon, but it's close between the two of them, both of them behind Loveland.

Those guys round out my top five tight ends. I don't have a problem with either Warren or Fanon in late round five. This one we did discuss because Dan took Laporta, and that felt just a little too soon. I don't mind if you like Laporta better than Warren or Fanon. As we discussed, you could probably have waited around to get Laporta knowing that Warren and and Fanner were still on the board. Right. All right, so let's get to round six, and Chuba Hubbard was the fifth pick of round six.

I don't think we talked about him much. And obviously RICO Dowdle is off the team going to Pittsburgh. We have Chuba Hubbard and Bejel Tootin and Jacorri Kroski Merritt going back to back to back. And R.J. Harvey, who's also affected by the Broncos bringing back J.K. Dobbins. So it's a running back run in round six. And again, it's Chuba Hubbard, Bejel Tootin, Jokori Crosky. Merritt and R.J. Harvey. Tucker Kraft was in the middle of that as well, but just four picks out of five were these running backs. Hubbard, Tutton, Kroski Merritt, R.J. Harvey. Going to get your

opinion on this when we come back. We're going to take our first break and come back with the running backs in round six after this on fantasy football today. All right, Jamie, Chuba Hubbard, fifth pick of round six, then Bejel Tootin, then Tucker Kraft, then Jacori Kroski Merritt, and then R.J. Harvey. All four of these running backs had their value, change last week or shortly before that. But what do you think about this group here? Chuba, Tutton, JCP, R.J. Harvey. I took Hubbard. I was very excited to get him there. You know, at least as them now, we'll see what happens after the draft. But, you know, again, losing Rico Dowdell, not really adding anything at this point. You know, maybe they're hoping Jonathan Brooks

comes back and is that guy and that could clearly be a significant factor for Hubbard. But that seems like a big ask at this point. So look, 2024, he was awesome. 2025 he was a disaster because of Rico Dado. And I think, you know, the offensive line upgrades that they made are going to be significant. This offense was certainly trending in the right direction last year because of Bryce Young. So I don't think he's going to end up being around six pick, to be honest with you.

If he's the starter for the Panthers going into the season, they'll probably move up around. But this is the range for these type of guys. I mean, you're talking about low-end RB2s. Swift was probably a steal at this point. you know, where you got him. But Tutin could clearly improve his draft stock if he opens the season ahead of Chris Rodriguez. We spent some time talking about that last show, just in terms of who will end up being the best running back for Jacksonville. Crosskey Merrick's got a lot of competition. You know, you look at the addition of Rashad White. You look at the bringing back of Jeremy McNichols. These are guys, I think, that are going to really impact what he does.

But if you're going to swing for the fence, I think he's one of those guys. I don't know if I would do it here, but he's, He's one of those guys. And then look, RJ Harvey was miserable when J.K. Dobbins was healthy through the first 10 games of the season. He had a couple of games where he scored touchdowns and that saved him. Much better as a fantasy running back in the latter half of the season. But I don't think he ran the ball very well. I think that was pretty obvious. So as long as Dobbins is healthy, you're going to have a problem with RJ Harvey.

But when Dobbins potentially misses time, Harvey will still be the guy that they lean on unless, of course, they go out and add somebody else. So for now, this is an okay spot for Harvey for me. but to me, Hubbard was the after Swift was the guy I was targeting, end up drafting him, and was very happy to get. Anybody think that in that group, someone should go ahead of Chuba Hubbard, whether it be Tutin, Corey Kroski, Merritt, or RJ Harvey? It's in pencil for me, but Tutin is a spot ahead of Hubbard. Just thinking about would I rather have the lead running back in Jacksonville or the lead

running back in Carolina. And it's just, I'm making it simple, and we'll see if it stays that simple after the draft. but it's very clear that like if Chuba Hubbard is the main back, he's always been good when given the touches. And that goes back to 2024. You can even find examples of it in 2023. When he gets opportunities, he can put up fantasy points.

And Jamie's right. If we get to the start of training camp and Carolina really hasn't done anything with their backfield, super easy to click on Chuba Hubbard and then even get Jonathan Brooks with a late pick if you want. Heath, any thoughts? No, I think what Jamie said about Brooks, like there have been some reports that they are pretty excited about him. I'm not sure that I agree that Chuba's always been good when he got touches. He was pretty mediocre at times last year.

And there's a reason, like Rigo Dada was incredible, but also Chuba averaged 3.8 yards per carry on the same team. And the games before he got hurt, it was much worse than that. So I think we have kind of a small sample size of him being like a, an awesome lead back. And if Brooks is okay, I think it's probably a committee. I would say, and maybe this is where Dave was going. I don't think Chuba was a good running back. I think Chuba was a good fantasy running back when he gets touches.

One of the things about Dowdell, looking at the last two years, my interpretation of his game log, Dowdell beats up on, has beaten up on really bad run defenses, two straight years. And the two games that Chuba Hubbard missed were Miami. and Dallas. And Dallas at that point had a horrible run defense. And Dowdell just dominated them, right?

And I just wonder what his yards per carry was if you remove those games. I don't know. I'll try to figure it out. But yeah, I mean, he averaged... We can figure it out. And it's going to be bad. No, I don't know if it's going to be bad.

But he averaged, gosh, he averaged nine yards per carry against Miami and 6.1 against Dallas. So it would be funny to see just what the gap is if you remove those two games that Chuba Hubbard didn't have the opportunity. Because he faced Jacksonville and New England in the first four games of the year.

The two very good run defense plus Arizona and Atlanta. I'm rambling. Okay, so that's those four running backs. Can I give one last stat on Chuba? Yeah, yeah. Last two years, he's had 20 games where he's had at least 14 touches and he's been over 15 p.p.R points in 12 to 20.

And you think 12 of 20, that sucks. Well, 50% is usually pretty good in fantasy. This is 60%. And you're drafting them in late round 5 Round six, where the hell are we didn't know when we started the show. We don't know now what round we're in. So wherever we're drafting Cuba Hubbard, if it's a middle round pick, which is what we're sort of thinking, I think that's a really good value if he's going to give a 60% return when he gets 15 plus touches a game.

I think Rico Dowdell, based on the math I just did while Dave was talking, average 3.8 yards per carry without those two games that Chuba Hubbard missed. And Chuba Hubbard averaged 3.8 yards per carry last year. All right, moving on. We are still in round six. We have Chris Godwin with the 11th pick of round six. Good value, bad value, average, porridge, just right? What do you guys like better? Ameca, Abuka.

Where did he go? Round four. Round four? Oh, right. That was a, we really liked that pick. I think we would be comfortable taking him in round three. Yeah, yeah. So let's say late round three.

That was actually the one I was surprised Dave did not take where he took while. And that's the guy that I wish I could, if I could go back. in time. Number one, I wouldn't have Florida in my final four. Number two, Apuka would have been my pick over Waddle. All right, so what's a better pick? Abuca at the three-four turn or Godwin at the six-seven turn? Abuk.

Abuka. A mecca. Okay. Rashad. I think I'd rather have Jacoby Myers who went one pick after Godwin. Jacobi Myers? Yeah. Wait, what was your question? I said, I think I'd rather have

Jacob Myers who went one pick after Godwin. You'd rather have them than Godwin. Correct. Dave, Jamie, Godwin, or Jacoby Myers? Godwin for me. I'm starting to get the feeling that Tampa's going to be like the Bengals and the Cowboys from last year, where their defense just isn't going to be very good and their offense is going to be forced into a lot of past heavy game scripts. And so I'm going to prioritize getting some Bucks pass catchers.

Does it matter to you at all that in the last four games of the season when everyone was healthy? That's Godwin, Evans, blah, blah, blah, that Godman actually out targeted. Abuka. Does that matter? Okay. You say matter for Godwin? Or matter for Abuka? For both of them.

I mean... I just think everything is completely different now with Evan's gone. So, yes. Like, I love the value for both, to be honestly. Like,

I love the value for Abuka in round four. I shouldn't say I love it. I think that's just right for Godwin. The thing about the Jacksonville situation just makes me a little nervous with Myers. He could be the best of their four guys. Or he'd just be one of them. their four guys. And I don't know like how early I want to buy into any of them, to be honest with you.

You know, so you see Thomas in round six. You see Myers in round six where Parker Washington go was probably a little later, I assume. And Travis Hunter was just a late round flyer, which he should be at this point. But if they are going to use him and Brenton Strange, then it just becomes like so many mouths to feed in this offense that you'll get some good performances. But I think at best you're talking about it if everybody stays healthy and on the. team assuming Thomas isn't traded that they're at best number three receivers whereas godwin could to me jump back into that wide receiver two tier and i think that like the experience we've had with godwin where he had the year where he was playing coming off the injury and was really not very good and then we saw that again last year and the hope is that he bounces back the only question i have is now he's 30 and it's another injury on top of it does he does he bounce back okay all right so let's

go to round seven now. We just did rounds five and six. Round seven has a lot of guys who were affected in some way by free agency or trades. Rashad White was the first pick of round seven. This we talked about when you asked us our favorite and these favorite picks. We didn't like it. Corland Sutton, the third pick of round seven.

We could just look at the wide receivers here because we have five wide receivers in this round that are part of this discussion. Sutton, then Alec Pierce, Christian Watson, Ricky Pearsall and Romeo Dobbs Sutton, Watson,

Pearson, Pearsall, and Romeo Dobbs. Dave, who's the, who are the top two in that group for you? Sutton, Pierce, Watson, Pearsall, Dobbs. Watson and Pierce? Are you skipping a couple of them on purpose?

Who am I skipping? I show Michael Wilson went right after Sutton. Oh yeah. I was only looking at guys affected by free agency or trades. I didn't. Oh, are we talking like what's,

No, no, I was, I mean, Michael Wilson might be, but. In what sense that they got rid of Tyler? Who is his quarterback? Well, it's Per CET, isn't it? I mean, honestly. That seems very noncommittal at this point. Okay, it's fine. I honestly, I just, I felt like this was kind of difficult because that you could make

the case for, so I had to eliminate some players from. Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. I thought you were listing all the wide receivers taken on that round. I wasn't trying to me. No, no, I understand. I was just listing the wide receivers that were more affected by the news of recent weeks. Yeah, so Dave, you said, I'm sorry, what hell did you say?

Well, hold on. First of all, Kendrick Bourne went to Arizona, so maybe that qualifies Michael Wilson to be in this conversation. Didn't somebody go to Pittsburgh with D.K. Metcalf? Was Metcalf in this? Oh, Maccaf? No, my notes. I didn't, I stopped it. I'm sorry.

I stopped at Dobbs. I didn't read Metcalf. He's in my notes. He's in my notes. I'm sorry. I missed him. All right. So it's six guys.

Let's go three by three. Okay. Sutton Pierce-Watson. Do we like Sutton, Alec, Pearson, Christian, Watson in this range? Yes. Not all three of them, but at least one of them. I have them almost back-to-back-to-back in the 30s. So I think they're probably better values at this point than one deal is.

Well, everyone is. But Dave, what were your thoughts on Sutton-Pierce Watson? Watson's my favorite of the three. I know that there's some serious downside because of injuries. with him, but he showed last season that he can be a number one wide receiver, addition by subtraction in Green Bay with Dobbs leaving for New England. There's hope now that Watson can finally be a solid volume earner, and we know what he can do as a downfield receiver.

This is easily a great time in fantasy drafts to take chances with players that have huge upside. And I think Watson probably is the most of it of all the receivers that we're talking about in this range. Pierce comes just behind him. That's based more on we've seen a lot of him making those big splash plays, plus the Colts are keeping them, plus the Colts are keeping Daniel Jones. He did some good work with Daniel Jones, and with Pittman gone, maybe the targets go up. I feel a little bit better about Watson than I do Pierce,

but I wouldn't be sad if somebody else took Watson first, and I got Alec Pierce as the second receiver in this group in round seven. I think this is a good time to target high upside wide receiver. This is the round for it. And these are the first two receivers that you should go after. Yeah, I think one of the things that I felt, I wish I had taken Christian Watson, if you remember the story, I was getting my kids off the bus, and I called Jamie and told them to pick between two receivers.

And one of them was not Christian Watson. But if I had really thought about that, that is the guy I would have taken there. And I think, Jamie, did you end up to take. Yeah, you did take Watson. I did, yes. So I didn't offer that suggestion when you called me, by the way. You take Watson out in every draft. Yeah, I have so far almost all of our offseason ones for Dave and Heath that weren't on the show.

Anybody listening for the first time, Adam, call me. I'm at the bus. Can you draft any of our seat, Sutton or Ricky, Ricky, Rick, Rick, Pierce all. You got to go by. And then Andrew goes, Daddy, did you pee yourself? Oh, yeah, right. Exactly. You know, I'm in tennis shape, Jamie.

I did a little better than that. I think, you know, you got to, to me, I was like, man, the guys like, pick here, I could see, some of them I could see cutting in three weeks. I don't know how you guys feel, but, you know, the guy Dan took. Yeah, I think three weeks would be too early. Then I'm going to play any games. Who did Dan take? Thanks, Xavier Worthy. Right. I mean, there's just, there's a lot of downside once, we've been talking about how bad wide receiver feels. Well, now we're in the 30s. So, um, all right, the next group was, was, uh, after, uh, Sutton, Pierce Watson. It's Pearsall, Dobbs, Metcalf.

Piercall, Dobbs, and Metcalf. And Michael Pittman went in the eighth round. So a pretty big downgrade for those guys going at the very end of round seven into the eighth round. But Heath, Peersall, Dobbs, Metcalfe. Do they belong in this range? I think they probably do. I'm the most excited about D.K. Metcalfe and the least about Pittman.

Oh, I wasn't including him. I don't think Dobbs stays in this round if we get to August and they don't make another move at receiver. That's my question. Do you think that Dobbs is capable of being more than what he's been? And this is much more. I mean, drafting him in the top 36, basically, he's never been a guy that you can rely on for more than, I don't know, a four to five week stretch. He's never been in a situation, though, before. Right.

But is he, but can he elevate to being, you know, must-r-r-r-a-lawful? I'm not even a must start. We're not drafting must starts. We're drafting must roster guys here, hopefully. Is the Patriots distribution of targets that much different than what the Packers has been? I mean, I don't know. It really wasn't. They just spread the ball over the place.

And they're pretty run heavy, too. Right. Well, you've illustrated this a lot, Adam, that we saw a lot of wacky games scripts for the Patriots last year, I think based on their schedule. And so more competitive games, more throwing from Drake May. This is the guy that they went out and got so far. Maybe the only guy that they're going to get in terms of on the high end side. So unless we're expecting more from Kishan Booty and Kyle Williams and, you know, maybe Hunter Henry,

like this is the guy I think that's stepping into Stefan Diggs role and hopefully elevating to a higher level. Holy JSM. What? Yeah, I got a big deal. Oh, he did? Oh, he did? The biggest deal. I don't know if this matters to.

So first six games of the year, Romeo Dobbs, did not have Christian Watson. And I don't think he had Jaden Reed, right? Jaden Reed got hurt really early. I think it was week two. Yeah. So he was only on pace for 102 targets in those games, Romeo Dobbs, which is exactly what Stefan Diggs had in 17 games last year. but he was on pace for 11 touchdowns. 68 catches, 867 yards, 11 touchdowns on 102 targets.

I mean, my point is, he's on the Packers with a very good quarterback, not Drake May, didn't have Christian Watson, didn't have Jaden Reed, Matthew Golden's doing nothing. Tucker Kraft was doing a lot, I guess, but still not getting a ton of targets. And he still was only getting about six targets a game. No. I don't know. But, again, that's not so bad at this point in the draft. that wide receiver.

All right. So it's Pierce all dogs and Metcalf. Go to the eighth round. Jalen Warren, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Matthew Golden, and Josh Downs.

Jalen Warren, Jordan Addison, Michael Pittman, Matthew Golden, Josh Downs. Dave, some very, like, it's hard to compare Warren with the wide receivers, but what do you think about Warren, Addison, Pittman,

Golden, Josh Downs? If you're shopping for potential starters, I think Warren's still fits that bill. I know that Rico Dowell going to Pittsburgh and joining up with Mike McCarthy, man, that's a good thing for Dowell. And he could end up displacing Jalen

Warren and making Warren a part-time back, but there's still a chance for him to be the 1A in Pittsburgh. He's been there a while. He knows that offensive line and what their tendencies are. He's proven that he can work three downs. And you mentioned it.

Dowdell had some great games last year. It came against crappy opponents. I don't how many crappy opponents the Steelers are going to face this year. I still feel like Warren is an okay running back, whether he's your RB3 or someone you just want to carry on your bench. When it's round eight and you're looking for running backs like that, it feels like gold. And so I don't, I don't mind Warren being in this group at all. How about the wide receivers, Jamie, Addison, Pittman, Golden, and Downs? I mean, Addison, again, very similar to Justin Jefferson, when Carson Wentz was starting last year and three of the four starts they were together, he

was over 15 ppr points. His career suggests that he's been good when he's had good quarterback play. So you're hoping Kyler Murray is going to be a good quarterback for this team and that Jordan Addison can also be elevated similar to the way Justin Jefferson is going to get elevated. So I think it's a good spot to take a chance on him. Obviously, there's a lot of debate of Pittman going to Pittsburgh and what role he'll play for Aaron Rogers.

And he might be better than D.K. McCaff just because of how Rogers operates from a target standpoint. It's not a bad spot to take a chance on him. You know, I don't like the golden pick at all. Why? And why? Yeah. I just think you could have got him a little bit later. So if you're going to take a chance on him still, like, we've talked, I don't know enough, but we certainly talked a lot about it when the move happened. Like Josh Downs has a chance to, you know, ascend with the Pittman absence. I think Parker Washington showed that he could be the go-to guy for Jacksonville. I understand what you're saying while you're taking him here, you know,

if we're piggybacking off the previous round with some of the wide receivers we talked about. And I don't mind taking a chance on gold. I think you could have waited a little bit. So in this range of guys, there's just a few other receivers that I prefer, even some guys that went after him. So,

but I guess, again, if you're shooting just for upside, you want to make sure you get your guy, get your guy. But in terms of the other receivers in this round, I like the value for Washington. I like the value for downs. just a little bit better.

Fair enough. And that will be round eight, round seven. No, round eight. Yes, I was right the first time. And we're going to take a break and come back with, what's after round eight? I don't know. We'll figure it out during the break.

We'll be right back. We'll talk about J.K. Dobbins and Zach Charbonnet and Rico Dowdle and James Connor and Tyler Alger, they all went in round nine. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. We are back. Round nine, J.K. Dobbins, Zach Charbonne, RICO, RICO, Doubtel, James Connor, and Tyler Algier, five running backs affected by free agency or trades. Dobbins, Charbonnet, Dowdell, Conner, Alger. Then we have Darnell Mooney, the wide receiver

that fits this mold in this round. Heath, man, J.K. Dobbins, you know, he was such a good pick basically two years in a row with the Chargers, with the Broncos. Now we're getting, I mean, the guy who's going to step into the lead role in the ninth round, in theory, I guess. What do you think about this. Is this a great pick? I think it's an appropriate pick. Maybe he could go a round earlier. I think there's good reason to think that in Harvey's second year, that he'll have a larger split of the work than he did when Dobbins was healthy. And Dobbins is another year older and another injury

piled on top. So the risk is just a little bit greater. So I don't think I'd call it a great pick, but I've got him right around RB30, which seems like this is probably about what that is. Dave, is there a great pick in this group of Dobbin? Charbonne, Rico Doudal, James Connor, Tyler, Alger. I imagine that multiple running backs in this range will go at least around higher by the time we get to August. And if I had to throw darts at those running backs, I would guess that Dobbins will be one of them, and Tyler Algear will be another. And it's just the fact that Dobbins played well last year when given the opportunity.

Yeah, there's concerns about I'm staying healthy, but he's 27 years old. and he'll be potentially the 1A in that Denver backfield. We'll see how he is by the time training camp starts. Algier could be the 1A in Arizona's backfield. It's not a great place to be. Arizona's offense kind of shaky right now, and their offensive line isn't great, but this team added him.

Connor's back, but we know that he's on the wrong side of 30, 31 years old coming into the year. If you just draft Al Jir and you wait for Connor to miss some time, I know Trey Benson's still there. I don't know if he's going to stay there. I think Alger can end up being a big time steal as a mid-round pick. To me, it's Sarbanay, if he's healthy.

You get any positive reports, he's going to jump like three rounds. For sure. Yeah, we won't see him there. If he's ready to go for the start of the season and the Seahawks are done addressing their running back room, of course he's going to go higher. I just wanted Jamie. And worth the pick, by the way. I just wanted Jamie to like one of my picks. Oh, I thought that was great selection, you know, especially given the way that you built your team.

I'm actually proud of you. You didn't get excited about taking a quarterback too soon. So you waited on that position. You waited on tight end. You did a good job. I did wait on tight end. I want to just ask this question. If we get to August and Charbonnet is still on the pup list,

is this where you take him? Is this the right spot to take a guy that we stash on IR for the first four weeks of the season and then see what happens? Who else is on the team? Are we stashing him on IR because we think when he comes back, he's definitely going to be the starting running back or are we stashing him in IR because we think he's coming back to the same role he had last year. I'm assuming that he'll be a part-time back in the role that he had last year with a rookie or Emmanuel Wilson as the other back that he shares with. Well, I think for me, drafting Charbonnet here, it's like, is there a player on the board that I feel like I can't miss, that I feel like I have to have? And I didn't really feel that way, you know, and I felt like Charbonnet, sure, I'll put him in IR, maybe he'll miss.

maybe he'll miss half the season, but I felt like he could definitely be, I don't know about a league winner. Look, I don't know what to expect. You know, it's not, it's not like he's just going to come back

and be Zach Sharbon. I'm very fearful of guys coming off major injuries, but could really be a big time contributor to my fantasy team. And I, I don't know that I felt that way about anyone else. Obviously, there are guys that could get there with an injury, like a Blake Corum or what you just said about Tyler Aljir or Kyle Menangai or whatever.

But, but Sarbanese, seem like an easy pick because I just didn't love the board. I think to your point there, though, and whatever running back you put there, we talked about this with your build on the last show, you went three running backs with your first four picks. Then you went very heavy wide receivers. So so far your team is all running backs and wide receivers.

You're taking a shot on a league winner right now if you're going with the idea of I'm waiting on tight end and quarterback. So what was the smart pick for you? And I think taking that fourth running back there after you already have five wide receivers, I'm assuming in your mind you feel pretty good about now you're receiving core after building out a little bit. So now, okay, who's the player that could be a difference maker for me? And so whether it's Monongai because of a swift injury or quorum or whatever,

Cardinals running back you like the best, Charbonate to me is right in that conversation because if he's right, again, we're doing this draft in March. If he's right, you know, you may have stole the draft. You know, so like that's the type of player you want to take. Whoever you associate to being that player, you know, that's the type of swing you take. I probably would have hated it at a time because I think when you didn't have a tight end, it's unlikely we're still there.

But then you got likely around later, so it didn't end up matter. Oh, yeah. And I was doing the draft going, please give me like that. Give me like that. Give me like that. You know, look, you look at the draft board and you see that just about everyone has a tight end. What? What do you say?

I got to go. Oh, okay. You see the draft board just about everyone has a tight end. and you just have to hope that no one takes a second tight end. And then the kiddle manager, Thomas, took pits, which makes sense. So if you're doing this, you've got to remember the kiddle manager is going to need a second tight end. Anyway, whatever. We'll talk about likely in a minute.

Let's keep going. Darnel Mooney. Talked about that with Dan. I didn't like to pick. Dan made a good case for Darnel Mooney to have a bounce back season. He went with the 10th pick of round 9. We go to round 10. We got Kenneth Gainwell here.

Kenneth Gainwell, Chris Rodriguez. I like that pick from Dan. Rodriguez. What about the Gainwell picked? You like that? Not as I do. All right. He went with the first pick of round 10.

Then Rodriguez went with the third pick of round 10. Then we have Jalen Naylor, now of the Raiders. In the eighth pick of round 10, then Aaron Jones. And then Jordan Mason went three picks after Aaron Jones. Who do you guys take first? Probably Jones. And then we had Isaiah likely. And I just say I took likely and I took Kelsey.

with my next pick. Perfect. Yeah. Oh, no, I took Kelsey two picks later. Perfect. Even better. You've got the floor covered. You've got the ceiling covered.

Outstanding. Oh, thank you. Well done. But a tight end who went in between those two was Mark Andrews. Do you guys think Mark Andrews gets a boost with likely gone? Sure. Maybe. But it needs to be a really, really big boost.

Yeah. Kelsey, you know, Kelsey was, I think, the number three tied end last year. But that's overall. per game he was number nine. And this is part of the reason that I'm having a harder time with these round four or five second tier tight ends and even round six is if we're going to have pits available in round nine

and likely available in round 10 and Kelsey available in round 12, those guys are going to be really, really good to be worth six rounds over the guys you can get later. Additionally, Heath, if we keep saying wide receivers week, and maybe it won't be, right? But this is a three receiver league. I just, I need to get some good wide receivers.

Now, this is- People are going to think we're insane saying that tight end is deeper than wide receiver. But that is the way, looking at this draft board, like I for a while was thinking, man, do I just want to take wide receivers the first three rounds and then take running backs for three rounds and then start figuring things out? Because the wide receivers, really after around five or six are pretty gross. And you're talking to someone who took a while. wide receiver, Jamar Chase in round one, and then Chase Brown, Josh Jacobs,

Bucky Herving. But I didn't want to do that. I just felt like I couldn't pass up those values. But no, I mean, right. Like, I have that issue with tight end. It's like, I can't be so weak at wide receiver to take a tight end when there's such a history of us reaching for tight ends who give us a glimmer of hope the year before. And then we take them too high.

It just seems to happen so much. All right. Sorry. Back to Jalen, Jalen, Nailor, 10th round. Good or bad. It's fine. I don't have much hope for Jaylen, neither. Sorry, Eric.

Okay, we've got to the 11th round, Emmanuel Wilson, now of the Seahawks, Mark Andrews, Jalen McMillan, Jaden Reed. So these are more guys who are, this is like Godwin and Golden, but a few rounds later. McMillin and Jaden Reed,

Isaiah Pacheco, Khalil Shakir, obviously downgraded. Calvin Ridley, this is round 11. David. It could be a great pick. Oh, sorry, what did you say? Heathcock.

Ridley could be a great pick. Ridley? Could be. Sure. That's why I took him. Why do you say that? Because, like, we, the guy that you hate with all of your guts, Juan Dale Robinson, we're kind of just assuming he's going to be the number one wide receiver on the Giants.

And he was, he's got his head coach and he's earned a lot of targets in the past. But the, the history of Wondale Robinson and Califference. in Ridley and who has more upside is it's been a couple years since we saw it from Ridley. But if Ridley's healthy, he could be the best wide receiver on the Titans. Not that that's going to mean, you know, a league winner, but it could be somebody that you could use as a biweek replacement at wide receiver. And when he's in those matchups against other teams that don't have great defenses, I don't know how many of those that are left in AFC South, that defensive, the defenses in that

division are getting pretty good. I think that really can be useful as a number three guy. I don't think we're drafting anybody in round 11 to be a starter for our team, unless it's a quarterback, maybe if it's a tight end that slips. But there's nominal upside. When we were drafting Calvin Ridley before, it was like four rounds higher,

even higher than that. And now the value is just, it's kind of too good to pass up. And then it's the same argument with every player that you draft around 11. What happens if they stink? Oh, well, you cut them and you find somebody else who cares. It's around 11 best.

All right, we're going to finish up here. I'll just going to throw out a name in the round, then you tell me if it's good value or bad value here. Starting in round 12 with Trey Benson. So with the other guys on Arizona, Connor and Al Jir going late round nine, Benson two and a half rounds later. Is that good value?

No. I see other running backs I would rather take. Yes. Alvin Camara was the next pick. He's not one of them. Jonathan Brooks? Camara would be one of them if we knew he was going to actually play. Just you have to downgrade expectations considerably.

Brooks is worth the gamble in round 12. Who would you have rather taken, Dave, Heath? Who were the guys you were thinking of? Brooks was one of the guys for sure. Okay. Agreed. I think I'd still say, well, a round later, what he marks? Okay.

We have Christian Kirk going with the six pick of round 12. I don't think we're too. He's with the 49ers. As bench depth goes, he's okay. Commanders running back, tight end Chigoconkwo in round 12. Taking the shot. Stream like tight end. I'll pick a lot more.

Which pick? The Kelsey pick one pick earlier. Okay. Then Hunter Henry went in round 13. Henry was tight end 14 per game last year. Diggs is gone. I think it's probably fine. Woody Marks, he's mentioned you like that.

That's round 13. Kishon Booty, round 13. at a night Mitchell round 13 Kyleor Murray and Malik Willis round 13 good I like it I'm I'm loving the late round quarterbacks this year like the value that's there

and we could start calling around mid to late round quarterback values are going to be so good there's so many quarterbacks that have upside for fantasy and drafting two of them just make so much sense and you don't have to spend you know there's going to be you know, no Knicks that take a quarterback in round one. And we've already passed those guys for years anyway.

But even if you're taking Josh Allen in round three or Lamar, Burrow, round four, five, like obviously those are great players and they could be league winners. But I took DAC in round eight. We're talking about high upside potential fantasy studs in Kyler Murray and Malik Willis. Yeah, they have their warts, but you can kind of make a case for them now. And you're getting them so late in the draft that, like, again, if they don't hit, so what? I did the talk of Murray and Willis. Somebody in the chat was very surprised that Bo Nix was not drafted.

Yeah, I think it's a great question to end on here. I don't see Bo Nix drafted with the addition of Waddle. Where do you rank Bo Nix this year? And Bo Nix was, I think he was QB 10 per game last year. I think he led the NFL on pass attempts despite having one of the best defenses in the league, which doesn't really make sense. But yeah, yeah. It does when you think about that run game for Denver.

Almost 21 fantasy points per game and six point. He was in that group now. He was 12th per game. I said 10. I got him at third. Oh, I think that was maybe in 4. He was 13th per game. But look, he's right there.

And that was having a bad year. So, yeah, he probably should have. I think I would, I definitely take him over Malik Willis now with Waddle gone. I know he doesn't have the same rushing upside, but it's not like he doesn't run. Right. But the dolphins are just, you know, they're going to be horrible. I don't know. I'm taking Knicks over Willis.

You know what? You can just wait and take them both. I wouldn't do that. That means I'd have three. Three quarterbacks. You don't necessarily have to. If you go just waiting on QB and loading up at every other position, start the year with Knicks and Willis and figure it out from there.

I don't think your team's going to totally suck. I do think your Purdy pick in round 13 was fantastic also. Yeah, that's, I'd rather have a purdy. You had a fantastic second half of it. It was like right after you got told how terrible to Matthew Golden. before you're walking. Hey, look, I have Devonthe Smith is my number two wide receiver. So when AJ Brown gets traded, I'm going to ask for to play this league out.

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