Fantasy Football Today - Mock Draft Review! When Did the Rookies Get Drafted? (05/12 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 12, 2022

Follow our mock draft here: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/fantasy-football-breece-hall-kenneth-walker-first-rookies-off-the-board-in-our-first-post-nfl-draft-mock/ Starting out with the best picks (2:00) and worst picks (2:55) of our 12-team, PPR mock draft. Heath loves the values for CEH, Miles Sanders and Jalen Hurts, but we all agree Davante Adams was taken too early ... We go round-by-round and review the results. Round 1 (6:45) was pretty standard with the exception of the Adams pick. In Round 2 (10:00), we wonder if Leonard Fournette and James Conner were drafted appropriately and how we feel about a Tyreek Hill/Davante Adams tandem (13:10). We review Round 3 (14:10) and discuss if you can really get away with no WRs with your first three picks ... Rounds 4 and 5 (19:15) are big rounds for WRs. Is it better to draft #1 WRs on potentially bad offenses (21:25) such as D.K. Metcalf and D.J. Moore over #2 WRs on potentially great offenses such as Courtland Sutton or Allen Robinson? ... Then we move on to Round 6 (36:10) which is not a bad round for RBs, Round 7 (43:30) when the rookie WRs come off the board, Round 8 (46:40) which features the "Steal of the Draft" and then a review of when the rookies were drafted (50:30) ... Your emails at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We are reviewing a 12-team PPR mock draft that Heath wasn't even a part of. What's up with that, Heath? I was not even at work that day. Oh, what a shame. Yeah. It was awful.

I missed you guys. Well, you know, it's good because you get to look at it and take a step back and not worry about your team and have a more objective view of who did well and who didn't and give us the best picks and the worst picks. By the way, one team took Devontae Adams in round one and Tyreek Hill in round two. That's an interesting way to start. We'll talk about that.

We'll talk about, I think, a really interesting thing is the wide receivers that went in round four versus the ones that went in round five. The ones that went in round four were these number one guys on probably bottom half, maybe bottom third offenses. The ones who went in round two were like Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton, Allen Robinson. So I'm at number two wide receivers in some cases on much better offenses, which is the better strategy. Good morning to you, Jamie. How are you? Good morning to you. What's up?

How we doing? How are you? Good. What was that sound you made? I did a little finger guns, winking. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

Anyway, let's get into the draft. We're going to go round by round. Really no news to talk about today, which is good. I don't think anyway. And, uh, I mean, today's like one of the busiest news days in the season. Yes. Which reminds me, we're going to have an episode tonight, Thursday night. We're going to have an episode to talk about the schedule release. Won't be a long episode.

We'll give you some of our key takeaways, our overall thoughts, Jamie. No Heath Heath. What was the best pick of the draft? I have three best picks. There were three picks that I really loved. I thought Jack just had a really good draft, except for one pick. But he took Clyde Edwards-Hilaire at pick 71 overall into the sixth round. I liked that one a lot, which wasn't quite as good as Scott fish getting miles Sanders at pick 87 early in round eight thought that was fantastic. And then I just have to say it. Chris towers, Jalen hurts round 10,

three rounds after Tom Brady, five rounds after Kyler Murray love Jalen hurts around 10. CH at the end of round six, Miles Sanders in round eight, and Jalen Hurts in round 10. Who would you rather have, CEH at the end of round six or Miles Sanders 16 picks later?

Sanders. All right. Jamie, what was the worst pick of the draft? I mean, I think it's unfortunately Devonta Adams at fifth overall. He could still be amazing in that spot. He still could be as good as he's been in Green Bay with his buddy from college, Derek Carr,

but it just felt way too soon. He was the second receiver off the board. Cooper Cup went first at fourth overall to you, but Adams ahead of running backs like Najee Harris and Derek Henry, ahead of even Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase for me. It just felt like a little bit of a reach. Just so y'all know, if you're watching on YouTube,

Shraggy B just posted a link to the draft. If you're just listening and you want to follow along, I'll put a link to the, to the draft in the episode description. I'll put it right at the top of the episode description and you can follow along. And I think that'll be really helpful to you. So again, a programming note,

we will have that episode tonight talking about the schedule release. We got three episodes next week. Monday, we got some key stats to talk about. I just read an interesting stat on Brown's rookie wide receiver, David Bell. We'll talk about that next week. Tuesday, workhorse running back.

Yeah, I know, I know. You know, I think it's a good point. I overlooked him, Jamie, and you made sure that we're not going to so i appreciate that uh workhorse running backs who aren't very good so that's our tuesday topic we can brainstorm now who's who's in that group because i remember last year miles gaskin and mike davis we talked about them a lot who is it this year is it ezekiel elliott maybe who's the workhorse running back that's not very good? Not very good from the standpoint of Miles Gaskin and Mike Davis?

I don't know if there is somebody like that this year. Yeah, I don't know if it gets that bad. Shraggy B and I were brainstorming, and we came up with the same names, and we were like, whoa, really? So Zeke, he's going to kill me for this. David Montgomery? Maybe CEH, although with Ronald Jones there, I don't know if he's a workhorse. for the David Montgomery. Uh, he, see,

uh, maybe CEH, although, you know, with Ronald Jones there, I don't know if he's not a workhorse. Uh, I don't, I don't know if Zeke is either.

Right. Barkley. We were thinking maybe he's not that good anymore. Uh, I had two thoughts for me could be at some point, Tyler Algier and Damian Pierce. I don't know if they're any good, but they could become workhorses.

I don't know. I don't know. This might, this might be a tough topic this year. They have to change the wording a little bit. I can't believe you said David Montgomery. Yeah, I know. What's your definition of a workhorse running back, though?

How many touches? How many carries? Oh, go ahead, Heath, if you want to keep going. No, I have a spicy one, but I want to know your definition of a workhorse running back first, I have a spicy one, but I want to know your work, your definition of a workhorse running back first. But I have a spicy one. You know, it's like,

uh, I think how the Supreme court defined, uh, or what is it? Obscene. You know, when you see it, uh,

it could be a workhorse running back and he could be bad in that role. I think a workhorse running back has and he could be bad in that role. I think a workhorse running back has to have at least 15 carries and three catches. 18 touches. And to be not very good, you have to be below four yards per carry. I think that's pretty fair. And obviously, you could be like Derrick Henry and not average three catches per game and be a workhorse.

But 18 touches, is that a workhorse? So, like, if we were talking about guys who were workhorse running backs who weren't very good last year would a guy who had 381 touches average 3.9 yards per carry and only five yards per target count yes is that camara or something? No, that is Najee Harris. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think he needs another year of stinking per carry to be considered bad. But yes, that kind of player, yeah. If he were really not that good, then yeah.

That's interesting. I don't think he's going to be part of that discussion, though. Thursday, Dynasty tight ends, mailbag, and we'll think of some other stuff to talk about. I don't think Dynasty tight ends is a full show, but it'll be part of the show. All right, let's get into the draft. Here we go. So the first

round, you did hear about Devontae Adams going fifth. Jonathan Taylor, Austin Eckler, Christian McCaffrey are your first three picks. This is 12 teams. It is full PPR. It is three wide receivers and a flex. So Taylor, Eckler, McCaffrey are your first three picks. I went with Cooper Cup fourth. Then it was Devante Adams and then Derrick Henry. So your first six picks are four running backs and two wide receivers. You can expect Cup to be in there.

Maybe the only wide receiver in the top six. But Devontae Adams, as Jamie mentioned, was a surprise. Now, a quick, quick detour. Jamie, you did a draft last night, and Cooper Cup went second. Yes, I did an analyst draft for another publication for a magazine. I'm not going to reveal the majority of their content. But yes, Cooper Cup. I had the third pick. I went Taylor 1, Cooper Cup. I had the third pick. I went Taylor 1, Cup 2.

I took McCaffrey 3. And so as we talked about on an earlier show, I think we'll see that probably more than we anticipate. I don't know necessarily 2, but in the top 5, I think you're going to see Cooper Cup as a top 5 overall pick. Yeah, and I thought I'd be able to get good running backs with my second and third picks if I wanted to go that route.

And I got Aaron Jones in round three, so I think that helped justify Cooper Cup. Fourth overall over Derek Henry. Anyway, Justin Jefferson

goes seventh. Najee Harris, eighth to Jamie. Jamar Chase, ninth. Travis Kelsey to Scott Fish. Alvin Kamara, 11th to Chris. And Joevin Kamara 11th to Chris,

and Joe Mixon 12th to Dave. So Heath, any thoughts on round one? I mean, if you don't have any, that's fine. We can move on to more interesting topics. I think it was good to see one of the tight ends get into the first round. And it'll probably be Kelsey over Andrews. But I think those guys should go very shortly

after whoever goes first. I think the only omission, which would be surprising to people, is Dalvin Cook not going in the first round. Yeah, and he went with the first pick of round two. So Dave went Mixon-Cook back to back. He could have gone Cook-Mixon, obviously. And Chris took a little bit of a gamble

because Chris took Alvin Kamara at 11 and not Mark Andrews. But he did get Mark Andrews. His gamble was that Dave was not going to take a tight end, and Dave did not take Mark Andrews because Kelsey went 10th. Then it was Kamara 11th. Then Mixon 12. Dalvin Cook, we're going to round

two. Dalvin Cook 13. Mark Andrews 14th overall. So yes, they went shortly. Shortly, it was Kelsey, Kamara, Mixon, Cook, Andrews 14th overall. So yes, they went shortly. Shortly it was Kelsey, Kamara, Mixon, Cook, Andrews. It is going to be interesting to see which of, because I think the consensus, and correct me if I'm wrong, first round picks, barring something crazy happening,

are going to be Taylor, Eckler, McCaffrey, Kup, Henry, Jefferson, Harris, and probably, I think Cook's going to be a first round pick. I guess probably Devante Adams, the one that slipped up. Yeah. The first round of this group or Camara, if there's a suspension.

Well, that obviously, but I'm saying like barring anything not happening. Right. So you'd put cook in there along with mixing and you'd probably drop Adams to early round too. Yes. Yeah. All right. So, so here's round two in there along with Mixon, and you'd probably drop Adams to early round two. Yes. Yeah. All right, so here's round two then.

Dave Richard takes Dalvin Cook, then Mark Andrews. Deebo Samuel goes to Scott Fish, third overall in round two. Leonard Fournette. Man, I mean, based on last year, Heath, and James Conner's going to go in this round too. He's going to go about seven picks later. Based on last year, it makes sense. They were top six running backs, or top maybe seven. Fournette and Conner's going to go in this round, too. He's going to go about seven picks later. Based on last year, it makes sense. They were top six running backs, or top maybe seven.

Fournette and Conner. Should they be taking this early? Fournette, fourth pick of round two, and James Conner, 11th pick of round two. And the only running back in between them was DeAndre Swift, who went to Jamie right after Fournette. So if you just look at the running backs who went in this round, Cook, then Fournette,

then Swift, then Connor. What do you think about that, Heath? Yeah, I think I had Fournette just ahead of Connor in round two before the draft. The fact that Connor's not going to get competition and Fournette did get at least a little bit of competition in Rashad White. I would take Connor first.

I think what I'd prefer is Connor at the end of round two, four net early in round three, but he's right at the two, three turn for me. Interesting. So expand on that. Why Connor over four net? Um,

it's mostly just because Tampa Bay spent draft capital on, on a rookie running back in Arizona. Didn't. Okay. Well, I mean, Arizona did, just not the same level. All right, let's go. So back to round two. Dalvin Cook, Mark Andrews, Debo Samuel, Leonard Fournette,

DeAndre Swift to Jamie at fifth pick of round two. CeeDee Lamb, Stefan Diggs, Tyreekreek Hill Chris Godwin which was my pick which eh maybe a little early where oh I guess you don't want to tell us

where he went um but no no I I have no problem telling you my team I took him oh okay where'd you take him I took him in round four

round four okay I think we all agree Godwin if fully healthy could be a second round pick but he's not right now so you don't have to take him that early. Keenan Allen, James Connor, AJ Brown, uh, Jamie lamb digs, Tyree kill,

go back to back to back. And then Chris Goblin and then Keenan Allen, give me your thoughts on that wide receiver run lamb digs, Tyree kill Godwin, Keenan Allen. Uh, and sorry, let's throw AJ Brown in there as well. He was the last pick of round two just after James Conner. Yeah, I mean, Diggs is a little bit of a steal. You can make a case. He's a late first-round pick, early second-round pick. So I like the value for him. I love C.D. Lamb.

Lamb and Diggs were the two guys I was planning on as the draft, as the second round started. But then when Swift fell, I figured, let me just take a chance on Swift. But I think you look at the opportunities for both those guys. These are all round two receivers. I think Devontae Adams belongs in this group. I like A.J. Brown slightly ahead of Keenan Allen,

but I can certainly see the argument for Allen. Yeah, I was glad to see Brown still staying in round two following the trade. All right, what did you think of George? I know you thought George took Devontae Adams too early at fifth overall, but he also took Tyreek Hill in round two. Let's just say that he didn't have the fifth pick.

Let's say he had the ninth pick and he took Devontae Adams and Tyreek Hill or the 10th, 11th, whatever. You know, that we didn't hate, that the Dev Devante Adams pick didn't stand out so much. What do you think about starting your team guys? He can go first with Devante Adams and Tyreek Hill. I think I'm just a little bit lower on both those guys. So I, I would like it more if somehow I could get them in the second and third round or late first and like early third, but you don't have that combination of picks.

I think like starting wide receiver, wide receivers fine. And those guys have been two of the best in the NFL for the last half a decade. There's reasons to be concerned. They might not be as good as they were, but if they are just who they've been in the past, this is perfectly fine especially

like i mean just spoiler alert he was able to get david montgomery in round three i feel a lot better about starting wide receiver wide receiver if i can if i get montgomery in round three all right we're on to round three then nick chubb mike evans giovante williams aaron jones david Mike Evans, Javante Williams, Aaron Jones, David Montgomery, T. Higgins. First six picks of round three are Nick Chubb, Mike Evans, Javante Williams, Aaron Jones, David Montgomery, and T. Higgins. After that, Saquon Barkley, Michael Thomas to Jamie, which I think now you would not do, right? You would not take Thomas in round three? Correct. This draft was done before the report came out that his ankle is still a problem.

So yes, I would not take him until at the earliest, the back end of round four. Who do you take there then if you don't take Michael Thomas? Because at this point, your team is Najee Harris and DeAndre Swift, and it's a three receiver league. So I'm sure you want to go receiver here.

Yeah, I think I told you when we were doing this live that i was considering pits because we had talked about you know taking uh me you know passing on on the tight ends um or we were having the tight end discussion i forget i don't think i had a chance to take uh andrews i'm not mistaken uh i did not you didn't so uh i told you i probably would have just gambled on fifth and taken the best player that I had ranked at the time. Okay, so let's say you had gone... I'm sorry, I'll give the rest of the round. I'll give round three, and then we'll have this discussion

because I think this is interesting. So it's Chubb, Evans, Gervonta, Aaron Jones, Montgomery, T. Higgins, Saquon Barkley, Michael Thomas, Josh Jacobs, Deontay Johnson, Amari Cooper, Kyle Pitts. Now, my read on the wide receivers after this is, they all have question marks, whether it's the quality of the quarterback or what. Metcalf, Moore, Cooks, Waddell, McLaurin.

Then you've got like Jerry, Judy, and Courtland Sutton in round five. But I guess, let's say you had gone Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift, and then Kyle Pitts. Do you think that you can get away with that in a three-receiver PPR league? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, it would just play out the same way. I take Cooks in round four.

Is he the most ideal number one receiver? No. Mooney in round five, most ideal number two receiver? No. But round six, I'm probably not taking Kenneth Walker. I'm probably taking, and the guy I was debating at that point, which is the one that went right after him, if you remember the conversation, was Rashad Bateman. So whether it's Bateman or if you want to just go to the draft order, Tyler Lockett, which I think next receiver would have been

that I would have considered. Gabriel Davis ends up being my next pick. So my flex is a little bit different, but I think when you factor in those two running backs, that tight end and that receiving court starts to look like a puzzle that makes sense to me and I'm fine with. But play it out as it is,

if Michael Thomas is Michael Thomas, then it's fine. All right, so let me just, let me ask you this. You definitely would have taken Najee Harris eighth. Knowing what you know now, would you rather have Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift,

Kyle Pitts, Brandon Cooks as your first four? DeAndre Harris, Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift, Kyle Pitts, Brandon Cooks as your first four. DeAndre Harris, Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift, Kyle Pitts, Brandon Cooks, or Najee Harris, Stefan Diggs. Who's your running back? Or no, Kyle Pitts and then Antonio Gibson. I probably just waited on running back, and I would have gone with walker as my second guy

uh okay okay i mean again i'll i'll reference this draft from last night because it's my team so picking third overall i went mcafree one uh mark andrews two aj brown three. Chris Godwin, four. Brandon Cooks, five. My second running back, I think I didn't take until round seven, which was Clyde Edwards-Lair. Well, I like that team a lot better than this one. Yeah. Well, I guess you've got a stud running back,

one of the best tight ends, and a stud wide receiver, hopefully. Yeah, I mean, you know, the value for Andrews and A.J. Brown to me were great. Value for Brandon Cooks in round five was great. If Godwin is right, round four is a steal. So, for sure. Heath, when we look at the running backs in round three, Nick Chubb, Javante, Aaron Jones, David Montgomery, Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs,

you would take Montgomery in round two, right? Yes, I would take Montgomery in round two, and he Yes, I would take Montgomery in round two, and he's my favorite in this group. Everybody else, I think, in this group, I have as a round three running back. Maybe not necessarily in the order they were taken, but that's kind of a personal preference thing. Okay, here's what we're going to do.

We're going to call it next week, workhorse running backs who might not be that good. And we're going to talk about... So then we can include Najee Harris. If you want, yeah, absolutely. We're definitely going to have to include David Montgomery, though, for sure. I hope you're on that show, Heath. Okay, ready for round four?

Here we go, round four. DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Brees Hall, Cam Akers, Brandon Cooks, Darren Waller, Antonio Gibson, Josh Allen, George Kittle, Ezekiel Elliott, Jalen Waddle, and Terry McLaurin. We get our first quarterback, Josh Allen, eighth pick of round four. We get two more tight ends. So Pitts is the last pick of round three. And then Waller and Kittle picked sixth and ninth in round four. So we've got five tight ends now in the first 45 picks.

And we also get these wide receivers. But before we get into the wide receivers, Heath, Brees Hall, Cam Akers, Antonio Gibson, Ezekiel Elliott. How would you rank them? And do you think they deserve to go in round four? I actually have Hall in round three. I might also have, trying to find the other guys.

Hall I have at the top. I think it would then be Elliott. Then it would be Cam Akers. Then it would be Gibson. And I've got the last three kind of at the four or five turn. So I don't think this is a bad spot for him. It's maybe a little earlier on those three than I would go.

And I think Cole belongs in that group with the round three guys we talked about. Jamie, what are your impressions of round four? I mean, you know, you get to the back end up first. I think it's the right spot for the tight ends. I do think it's the right spot for these running backs, but you get to the back end around four into round five. And this receiver value is just insane.

You know, when you start to talk about Jalen Waddell, Terry McLaurin going into round five, Jerry Judy, Allen Robinson, Michael Pittman, Cortland Sutton, Marquise Brown, I mean, Mooney. I think all these guys, you know, you can even extend it if you want to, Mike Williams, Juju, and Thielen. I mean, just think about if you don't go heavy at receiver early, and in the case of Jack and marone for example they end up with jack ends up with jaylen waddle and alan robinson and marone ends up with terry mcclaren and jerry

judy like that's pretty good you know i don't remember exactly what they did their first three picks but that's that's pretty good to wait on those caliber players if they live up the expectations we have for them yeah and i i want to talk about these wide receivers that are going in rounds four and five, which is traditionally a great spot for wide receivers. Okay. So you get kind of a correction because people go running back heavy in the first three rounds.

And now they say, all right, let's start taking these wide receivers. So in round four, it's DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Brandon cooks, Jalen Waddle,

and Terry McLaurin in round five., it's Jerry Judy, Alan Robinson, Michael Pittman, Cortland Sutton, Marquise Brown, Darnell Mooney, Mike Williams, and Juju Smith-Schuster, and Adam Thielen. You've got, Heath, it really breaks down, interestingly, other than Pittman and Mooney who went in round five, you've got a lot of number one options on offenses that

we're not excited about, like Metcalf, DJ Moore, and Brandon Cooks and Terry McLaurin versus round five where you have I don't know how Judy and Sutton are going to work out, but you have those two guys. You have Allen Robinson on the Rams. You have Marquise Brown who's the number one for six weeks

on the Cardinals. You have number one for good. Okay, that's possible. You have Mike Williams who's probably the number two for six weeks on the Cardinals. You have number one for good. Okay, that's possible. You have Mike Williams, who's probably the number two guy, unless Keenan Allen just starts getting old. You have Juju Smith-Schuster, who's the number one wide receiver, but he's second fiddle to Kelsey. And you have Thielen.

So these are better offenses. And if you think about Cooper Cup and you think about Stefan Diggs, these are guys who came out of this range the last two years and won you your league because their offense has exploded. So what do you like? Do you like the number two guy on the great offense or the number one guy target hog on the worst? I don't even know if DK Metcalf is going to be a target hog, but the number one guy on the worst offense, what do you do here? Or do you take both? Yeah, I think metcalf's the guy that scares me the most out of that group because i'm not like you said i'm not sure he's the clear number one for seattle and i'm not sure the offense is going to be any good um so but like the guys that i prefer out

of this group i think are juju and michael pitman and then i've got waddle not too far behind and i don't know like exact waddle's kind far behind. And I don't know exact... Waddle's kind of like DK, except I feel that their offense is going to be better. I don't know for sure what the target share is going to be in Miami either. But yeah, Juju and Pittman are my favorites out of this group.

Pittman might be kind of a combination, right? He's the number one on average offense. They don't really fit either of the categories that you laid out right by the way what you think of that throw by tua to uh tyree kill um ugly it was fine it wasn't that bad but i mean it was like if you look at the the comments on the dolphins uh tweet which is where it initiated from somebody screen grabbed tyree Kill and said, if you told me he was catching a punt, I would have believed it.

Because he turned around backwards. Yeah, not a great decision there by the social team. No, and then there was another comment. Someone said, this intern better be fired. You can find a lot of Tyree Kill catching the ball like 40 yards downfield stopped directly facing Patrick

Mahomes. The first one you tweet out of the two of them catching passes should not be. It was kind of wobbling too. You know, it was not a pretty spiral. It was better than what I can do. They should have edited it like Tua dropping back to pass and

Tyreek in a fake Dolphins uniform touching the touchdown. Yeah, I agree with you. Jamie's going to be on the social team. What's your take on this, Jamie? I think it's really interesting that Heath would take Juju and Pittman over a lot of those guys,

like DJ Moore and DK Metcalf and Tyree McLaurin. What's your take on this conversation? I don't necessarily disagree with Heath. You know, I have different favorites. But, you know, I think when you just look at this group, this is kind of why they are ranked and being drafted where they are. You know, it's like you said, you know, there's somewhat market correction

for people that are taking running backs. There's also market correction for people who are taking their second and third receivers like I did. You know, I took Brandon Cooks and Darnell Mooney. There's a ton of upside with all these guys. I mean, you know, Mooney could, I've said this, you know, if the Bears offense opens up a little bit, Mooney could be in the conversation for most targets in the NFL. That'd be a stretch. But I mean, think about what this receiving core is right now, that they're just bringing

in guy after guy after guy to try and, you know, backfill the depth chart that he's competing, you know, with Byron Pringle and Vilas Jones and, you know, probably several other guys that a lot of people can't name. Marquise Brown, it might be the whole season. It might be six weeks. It might be Marquise Brown from a couple years ago where he's only getting 100 targets and still being a very good fantasy receiver. But the ebbs and flows of the season could be frustrating.

The two Broncos guys are fantastic, but we just don't know. Michael Pittman with Matt Ryan could be amazing, but he could also be another Matt Ryan receiver where the touchdowns escape him and everything else is not necessarily Julio Jones-like, but you get the point on a lesser scale. So these receivers are going in this range for a reason. They all have, I think, top 20 upside.

I don't know if they have top 10 upside, unless a lot of things really break their way, but it's a good way to, if you go, uh, hero RB, or if you do decide to go, you know, to, to running backs early in your draft that you can still get three very good, you know, competent receivers. Uh, again, you know, I'll reference my team in this one where I went Najee Harris, Deandre Swift. If Michael Thomas is the 80% version of Michael Thomas that I'm expecting him to be of his record-breaking season, if he's healthy, then I have Thomas, Cooks, Mooney,

and that's a pretty good trio of wide receivers. You want to replace it, say Deontay Johnson. Deontay Johnson, Cooks, and Mooney, or whoever is in that same range that I took Michael Thomas over. And I need to clarify one thing, Adam. I didn't know Terry McLaurin was a part of this group. I actually have him the highest. But Juju, DJ Moore,

Pittman, and Waddle are all within like seven points of each other in my projections. So I'll take the one that goes last, I guess. Okay. But yeah, you could definitely take two guys here in rounds four and five and feel decent about it.

And I mean, in years past, if you had taken like DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett here a couple of years ago, you would have loved that. And that's why I feel like we didn't really talk about the Broncos guys, but those are the two that really jump out to me. I'd love to get one of them in this range. And they both went. They went within like three picks of each other.

And they're, they're, you know, we're starting to see, especially now that Sonya Michelle and Mike Davis have signed, you know, so there's, there's probably going to be a running back or two that ends up in a spot

that I don't know, ruins the backfield, but makes it a little bit frustrating of a backfield situation. Like James Conner could get competition, for example. But I think, you know, when you look at the receivers who are out there,

Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Wolf Fuller I might be missing somebody those guys could ruin one of these particular players you know so like Beckham for example if he goes back to the Rams you know then it's bad news for Allen Robinson who's going to round five you know most likely or if you know Landry ends up going to Baltimore then Rashad Bateman who goes around six and somebody that I'm sure everybody's excited about. I know I am.

That's a problem for him. So there's going to be a couple of still moves that ruin one or two of these guys, potentially. Well, the stat that I've given out a lot, and I'll continue to give out, to me, it's been one of the most influential for me in terms of my draft decisions. And the reason why we're having this conversation

about good offenses versus bad offenses is that over the last six years, only 15% of top 12 wide receivers in PPR, 11 of them in the last six years, were on offenses that ranked 20th or worse in scoring. So I'm not saying you can't get a top 15 or top 18 guy here on a bad offense. You can,

but if you're trying to get a league winner, the quality of offense really, really does matter. And that, that does influence me. Now, all of you out there, you don't have to agree with me,

but that really did stand out to me. Like what's the, what's your baseline for the quality of offense does matter. What do you mean? Like to be a league winner, you need to be on an offense that is what? I don't know because it really depends on what you call a league winner. Top what?

Scoring. So what I said was only 15% of wide receivers who finished top 12 over the last six years were on offenses that ranked 20th or worse in scoring so you don't have to be on an amazing offense but i don't want to take a lot i don't want really want to take wide receivers in this range that i think are going to be on garbage offenses because i their chances of finishing top 12 are kind of low and their chances of finishing top five are even lower. So you would just, in the case of what I did,

you would take Juju over Darnell Mooney? I don't think either of them is going to finish top 12, but yeah, I probably would. Because touchdowns, it's hard to predict touchdowns. Do you think Washington is going to be a bottom 10 offense? Not necessarily, but. But Carolina. Yes.

And that's the one that really scares me is DJ Moore. I'll go back to this draft I did last night where I had a decision to make between, I think it might've been Godwin and DJ Moore. And I took Godwin over DJ Moore because I drafted McCaffrey. And I didn't want to tie myself to two Panthers

with two of my top four picks. Well, DJ Moore is the poster child for this. I mean, we all think he's really good, but he just can't score enough touchdowns. And he's actually scored a decent chunk

of his team's touchdowns, but they've thrown so few over the past three years. So he is... And, you know, the other thing, Heath, is I don't know that I have to make only those types of decisions, but I could take DJ Moore and be fine with having a pretty much must-start wide receiver

with a pretty high floor, but I also want to get a higher upside offense in there. So if I took two wide receivers i wouldn't take i don't think i would take dk metcalf and dj more i would take dj more on courtland or something like that well i think the example we gave we gave is fair i mean you know mooney if everything breaks right is going to have i think the chance for just as good if maybe better season than juju because we just don't know what Juju is anymore at this point but you're banking on Juju getting through the car wash uh in Kansas City going through the car wash Kansas City and getting you know the type of targets better targets clearly better quarterback

play better coaching um but in a very crowded offense you know I mean it could it could just be tough for him you know I don't think it's a bad... There was a whole strategy piece written a few years ago. Somebody, a football guy, I don't remember. I think they called it Eliminate the Suck. And it was just basically, don't have players that are on the worst offenses in football. And I don't know that's necessarily a bad strategy. It's just how...

I don't know how good we are. I think last year we probably could have projected most of the worst offenses in football in the bottom 10 were jacksonville the giants the texans the panthers the jets the bears falcons lions football team broncos the the uh the counter to this is alan robinson which is kind of what you're hoping for from Darnell Mooney. Because he's that target hog that finishes top 12. I don't know that he's necessarily a league winner, but he's damn good enough to be getting in round four.

You know, that's what you're hoping for with a guy like Mooney or something like that. Well, I guess, let me ask you this, though, because, you know, it's clear you're shooting for the stars, which is how you should draft. But where does it start to, and I don't know if you have these numbers in front of you, but so 50% over the last six years finishing in the top 12 from.

Bottom 10 offenses. Huh? Bottom 10 offenses. Bottom 10 offenses. Oh, no, no, no. 20th or worse. So bottom 13 offenses. 20th or worse.

So where do the top 15 wide receivers come into yeah you'll find you'll find top 15 guys you'll find top 20 it's right and and the difference between a top 15 guy and a top 10 guy could maybe be 20 points could be less than that right i'm just i'm just saying no you're right minimal you're right i just think that i look at it more as like that stat tells me that you're probably not going to finish top five if you're right i just think that i look at it more as like that stat tells me that you're probably not going to finish top five if you're not on a good offense at least a better off yeah right and you can get a top five wide receiver in this rain i mean this is a place where wide receivers bust out rounds four and five you get those great options that they have

big seasons you know so that's what i'm saying i feel like darnell mooney for example could be more along the lines of like what brandon cooks has been you know where he's very good um if things go absolutely ridiculously amazing for him he could be great uh and when i say brandon cooks you know brandon cooks more like the texans like we saw last year um whereas juju if things break right for him, which I know why he loves him, I mean, he's not going to be Tyree Kill, but he's got the chance to be what Juju was early in his career. And that's the guy you're drafting.

And by the way, when I said Allen Robinson was the example of the, you know, I meant the last few years of Allen Robinson. Well, I guess I meant 2019 and 2020. Ironically, Allen Robinson is now in the new batch. He's the number two guy on the great offense, but I think everybody hopefully understands what I'm trying to say. And the other thing I'm trying to say is

it's time for a break. So when we come back, we are into round six, and we're going to start seeing the rookies really come off the board, especially in round seven. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Let's talk about round six. It starts with Dave Richard taking Justin Herbert.

Was that the... No, Mahomes went in round five. Josh Allen in four. The first of his double quarterbacks. He took who? Herbert and Dak. He's a smart man. When did he take Dak?

He took him super late, right? He took him in round 12. Good for him. The next pick was Donovan Peoples-Jones. Take Dak. Anyway, round six. Herbert, I think, is the third quarterback off the board? Yep.

Okay, then ETN, Hunter Renfro, Kyler Murray, Kenneth Walker, or Ken Walker, Rashad Bateman, Tyler Lockett, Damian Harris, Devin Singletary, Lamar Jackson, Clyde Edward-Ziller, and Cordaro Patterson. And my first impression of round six, Jamie, was this is not a bad time for running backs. ETN, Ken Walker, Damian Harris.

We talked about that on FFT in five. We thought this was a little too early. Devin Singletary, Clyde Edwards-Ziller, who Heath already said was one of the best picks, and Cordaro Patterson with the last pick of round six. What do you think about the running backs here? Is this a good round for them? It's the right spot to gamble on these guys.

I think this is where Miles Sanders will end up settling as well. As I told you, I have Sanders ranked ahead of Walker. I just wanted to take Walker because this was our first draft with rookies, so I wanted to at least get one of the prominent guys. And they're close in any aspect.

But yes, I think, you know, look, you start to see the receivers that are on the board here. I thought Hunter Renfro was an offense, Scott, if you're still watching. Bad pick in the spot. But, you know, you have Renfro, Bateman, Lockett. You know, you see the upside of some of these guys. You certainly see the downside. You know, you mentioned the two quarterbacks, Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson coming off the board.

And then you start to look at these running backs. And so, you know, especially if you only have one, you know, you're hoping for somebody with upside. So, you know, look, Harris and Singletary, you know, you could see what their floors are. Their ceilings could be somewhat questionable in PPR. Edwards-Zeller, you know, we've seen some of the highs. We certainly have seen the lows. And then Walker is a wild card right now

because of the status of the Seattle offense plus what the backfield looks like. So, you know, there's certainly still questions, and this could still be the dead zone by far. But it's a good spot to gamble on some of these guys, unless you just get lucky like Scott did where he ended up getting Miles Sanders two rounds later. All right. So I, I always struggle with these mock drafts, recap episodes, because if you're not watching, if you're not looking at

the results, if you're driving in your car, there's no way you're going to remember 12 names. So I'm just going to repeat round six and we can move on to round seven. Justin Herbert, Travis ETN, Hunter Renfro, Kyler Murray, Ken Walker, Rashad Bateman. Heath, real quick, good spot for Rashad Bateman mid-round six? I think he's right about where he should be going, yes. I definitely like it more than that terrible Hunter Renfro pick. And then the next pick was Tyler Lockett. Bateman or Lockett, who do you like?

I've got them back-to-back. I have Lockett one spot ahead but it's very very close Damian Harris, Devin Singletary Lamar Jackson, Clyde Eberziler and Cordaro Patterson Let's go to round 7 We have 3 tight ends come off the board in the first 6 picks of round 7

Dalton Schultz and then Dallas Goddard and TJ Hawkinson went back to back a few picks after Dalton Schultz So round 7 is Schultz, Tom Brady, A.J. Dillon, Amonra St. Brown, Dallas Goddard, TJ Hawkinson. And here come the rookies, the wide receivers. The first one was Sky Moore. Don't expect him to be the first wide receiver, rookie wide receiver taken, at least not now. Dan Schneier, when he took Moore, he kind of said, let's have fun with it.

I think he might take Traylon Burks london if we were doing a real draft but sky more goes and then gabriel davis to jamie so he you know he he said before we get into this run of rookies jamie said i'm gonna take gabriel davis and then elijah moore went and then trailing burks drake london and chris olave are the last three picks of round seven. Heath, give me your takeaways from round seven. I think Hawkinson and Schultz and Gabriel Davis are the only picks that I like in this round. So I had Davis like a round earlier than this, and I've got Hawkinson and Schultz a round earlier than this. But what would you say, Jamie? You don't like AJ Dillon in this spot too soon or no i might have dylan pretty

close as well maybe i just hate all the rookie wide receivers here um no dylan dylan's fine there so this this kind of goes back though adam to what we were talking about previously so taking davis in a great offense who gets you, a potential bump with the guys that they're replacing? Or do you take the target hogs on what could be bad, at least passing offenses, you know, Burks and London with what they're looking at? I think it's a really tough question to answer. So you obviously went with Gabriel Davis over the rookie wide receivers. Heath, you're obviously going with Gabriel Davis. I mean, I love that there were four games with Emmanuel Sanders either not playing

or leaving early with an injury. And Gabriel Davis had seven or more targets in three of those four games. And the only exception was week 17 when Josh Allen threw 26 times, which was a season low. So I don't really know if that, I mean, that's such a small low. So I don't really know if that, I mean, that's such a small sample size

and I don't know if it matters, but basically whenever Sanders was out, Gabriel Davis got targets. But for his career, he's had 63 and 62 targets in 16 games, two straight seasons. So I can't just assume he's going to get that target bump. I guess, you know, he just hasn't really proven anything, in my opinion. He just hasn't proven much, Gabriel Davis.

I think he's proven it for the Bills. That's the big thing. Yeah. He was pretty awesome in the playoffs. Yeah, he had that one game, obviously, at 201 yards and four touchdowns. That was something. Who is this guy? He's not done anything.

But in his career, you know, he's not that he's not that proven. I think something that was really interesting is St. Brown ahead of all the rookie wide receivers. Yeah, that was my pick. I guess I mean, it's so hypocritical for me to be like, well, I don't know if Jameson Williams is going to be back, but also

I'm just taking Chris Goblin like Chris Goblin's got super healing abilities. I don't know. I guess I regret it. I thought this is kind of where I had to take Amara St. Brown. It's a PPR league, obviously. I think he's a fine number three wide receiver. And look, he did what...

He got to 900 yards as a rookie. Led his team in receiving. He might just be better than TJ Hawkinson. he got to 900 yards as a rookie, led his team in receiving. He might just be better than TJ Hawkinson. Maybe it's Hawkinson that really suffers and not Amon Rasim Brown. If they're going to throw short, he could be the guy who just gets a lot of catches. So understanding that people are lower on him

than I thought they were, I guess I would wait and try to get Amon Rasim Brown later. But for now, I guess consider me higher on Amon Rasim Brown. This is the range he's going to go. The problem is if he goes in the round five range later, but for now, I guess consider me higher on Amon Rasim Brown. This is the range he's going to go. The problem is if he goes in the round five range

in that group of receivers. When you start to stack him up to the rookies, and you start to stack him up to guys that aren't going to be high volume catch receiving options like a Gabriel Davis, I don't think it's horrible here, but I think you're right.

You probably get them a little bit later. And it might just be that I look at, um, I, I scroll down just three picks after this round and see Miles Sanders. And I don't know if there's anybody that in this round that I have ranked ahead of Miles Sanders. Well, who did I have? Miles Sanders is crazy. What are we missing about Miles Sanders?

I guess my fear with Miles Sanders is he's going to catch 30 passes. This would be my fear. Okay, I'm just laying out the case why he's going so late, right? He's not a factor in the passing game. Maybe six touchdowns. I know he had zero last year, right? He's not a factor in the passing game. Maybe six touchdowns. I know he had zero last year,

but Jalen Hurts is there and they might use multiple running backs like they did last year. So he scores six touchdowns. He has a lot of games where he has 70 total yards and one or two catches. And that really just doesn't do anything

for you in PPR. It's a bi-week replacement kind of guy. Okay, but let's just go back a little bit to... Where was he? Starting in round six, I guess. I'll leave out Elijah Mitchell, who in PPR you can obviously argue with the downside

for that. Chavez ETN may have more upside. I can see that see that i told you if i didn't take ken walker i was taking miles sanders in round six so that's where he would have gone damien harris versus miles sanders oh it's an easy one me too devin singletary versus miles sanders you made that choice adam yeah i think i'd take singletary. Okay, I would take Sanders. Yeah. Clyde? I actually prefer Clyde. Yeah, I think I'd go Clyde.

That's fine, but I mean, is there that glaring of a difference that they should go that far apart? No. No. No, no. Patterson? Sanders. AJ Dillon in PPR?

I can see Dillon. I'm not going to argue, but it's close. That's the one that really stood out to me because barring an Aaron Jones injury, Sanders and Dillon were almost exactly the same in terms of carries and catches per game last year. Dillon scored touchdowns. Right, but one of them added A.J. Brown

and one of them lost Devontae Adams. So did both of the running backs get involved in the passing? I agree. The Packers' offense might be worse than the Eagles' this year. No, I don't know, but it might. But I'm saying the catches, you know, because Dylan showed the ability. When Aaron Jones wasn't playing,

he did show that he can catch the ball. You know, and Rodgers is going to throw to his running back. So who do you think catches more passes this year? If Aaron Jones is healthy, I would say it's Miles Sanders, but I do think it's going to be close. I don't think Sanders is getting back to a 50-catch guy, but I do think that A.J. Dillon could be a 30-catch guy as well. Man, I really like Miles Sanders.

Just, I don't know, something holds him back. He's injury-prone. Look, he should no longer be, we were talking about him as a second-round pick, maybe last year, certainly don't know. Something holds him back. He's injury prone. Look, he should no longer be, we were talking about him as a second round pick, maybe last year, certainly two years ago. He's not in that range by any stretch anymore. But round eight? Oh, for sure.

This is the biggest deal of the draft. Well, yeah, we're in round seven right now. He did go in round eight. And I guess we can go to round eight then. Let's talk about round eight. Other than Miles Sanders DeAndre Hopkins remember the last three picks well I guess I'll read the last six picks because they were all wide receivers the last six picks of round seven were Sky Moore Gabriel Davis

Elijah Moore Traylon Burks Drake London Chris Olave so here we go with the rookies and versus the veterans DeAndre Hopkins, this was after the suspension. We gotta talk about Dave's team, by the way. Is it good or bad? Not his best job. Alright, so maybe we'll do eight rounds and then we'll talk about the teams and some of our favorite late round picks. And you know what? We'll talk about where the rookies

went. Hopkins, Devontae Smith, and this was after the Hopkins suspension obviously. Miles Sanders, Christian Watson, who went before Alan Lazard, Tony Pollard, Christian Kirk, Chase Edmonds, before the Sonny Michelle signing, Michael Carter, Kareem Hunt, Garrett Wilson, Brandon Ayuk, and Russell Wilson. A lot of names there. I don't know. There's a big theme in this round, but Hopkins, Devante Smith,

Miles Sanders, Christian Watson, Tony Pollard, Christian Kirk, Chase Edmonds, Michael Carter, Kareem hunt, Garrett Wilson,

Brandon, Iuke, Russell Wilson. I wonder how much farther Edmonds falls now. Cause I think this is kind of the spot for him still. Yeah, I, I don't think he, I I'd be happy with him here. I think I is kind of the spot for him still. Yeah, I don't think he... I'd be happy with him here. I think I'd probably take him around earlier.

And this is about where I have Devin Singletary. I just wanted to throw a little shot in at Adam for no reason at all. The theme of this round is that Miles Sanders is the best pick of the draft. The other theme is how many guys, we're kind of running out of guys who have independent upside.

Kareem Hunt has upside if Nick Chubb gets hurt. Brandon Ayuk has upside if Debo Samuel gets traded. Pollard with Zeke. Pollard with Zeke, exactly. Carter with Brees Hall. Michael Carter with Brees Hall, right. But there are some guys in this round that just have independent upside. Like maybe,

who do you think? Like Christian Kirk, Devon, obviously Don'try Hopkins is in his own little class, but the Jamie, who do you see in this round that has independent upside? They don't need some circumstance in order to have a big year. I mean,

you mentioned Kirk, you know, I, I think as we were having the discussion in the draft, Dan said to, I might've been Jacob Gibbs, Dan Schneider to Jacob Gibbs, that I might be higher on, or we might be higher on this guy than other people are. He could, you know, clearly have a career-defining season based on the money that he got.

I don't know if Garrett Wilson needs an Elijah Moore injury or a Zach Wilson, like, extreme breakout, probably both. But, you know, you draft a guy 10th overall and he goes essentially behind Christian Watson to me. That's crazy. Um,

but you know, this, this, this much farther than this guy, more Drake, London, Traylon Burke's group. Um,

even Chris Alava, you know, I mean, that, that's a pretty good gamble, uh, for a rookie wide receiver. So I would say those guys.

Yeah, Wilson is, I think, thus far my favorite rookie value for sure. I actually still have him just ahead of the other guys, but I think he just has to hit his potential, and then the other guys on the roster won't matter that much. I'm not sure what made Kareem Hunt go from being, you know, like a fifth or sixth round pick to an eighth round pick. Yeah. He went, you know, I mean,

I struggled personally with Tony Pollard and Kareem Hunt when I ranked them. I struggled when I drafted them. You know, I think just knowing what I feel about Ezekiel Elliott when I saw last year, I think Pollard has an easier path to getting those feature level touches this season without an injury um you know and something without a significant injury uh then Kareem Hunt which is why I take him over over Hunt Pollard's why I take Pollard up Hunt um but uh Kareem Hunt's another guy like

you know when you get to the Edmonds Carter Kareem Hunt group like that was a great pick by you and even going into round nine Adam just because I'm scrolling ahead, you getting Melvin Gordon around nine was fantastic too. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't want to talk about round nine, but let's wrap it up here. We can just talk about it with your team. Okay. Well, yeah, I mean, taking Melvin Gordon over like Tyler Algier and Damian Pierce was an interesting decision.

I would have done it. Yeah. Truthfully, just going to have to see how the chips fall. I don't know if that's going to have to see how the chips fall. I don't know if that's going to be the right one, but I guess it's just because I don't know how good Damian Pierce or Tyler LGR are. They might just be kind of like Mike Davis and David Johnson, just getting work but not really doing anything with it.

It might be Michael Carter. Which is okay. I mean, it just took him a while to kind of emerge. But it's a few weeks of great production, but not necessarily somebody that you felt, I can definitely start this guy all season. Right, right. Okay, so...

Tyler Algier feels like Elijah Mitchell. Well, that'd be good. James Cook, Damian Pierce, and Tyler Algier all went in round nine. Cook went first, and it's full PPR. And what else stood out with you with the rookies, Jamie? So we had Brees Hall in round four. We had Ken Walker in round six.

We had the rookie-wide receivers going in round seven, late round seven and into round eight. And then throughout, other rookie-wide receivers went. Anything else you want to talk about with the rookies? No, I think you kind, touched on the receivers. You know, once we got to that run of receivers, you know, I was curious to see who was going to be the first one drafted. Again, you mentioned what Dan did, but, you know,

Burke's going ahead of London. That's the one I'm really curious to monitor throughout this process. I think they're going to go very, very similar. It's almost like once one goes, you almost feel like you're inclined to take the next one. Watson went a little too soon for me, and as we talked about, Garrett Wilson falling behind that

group is a little eye-opening. And then in round 12, we had Jalen Tolbert, the Dallas third round pick, Alec Pierce of the Colts, and George Pickens of the Steelers so taking seems like good time to take a shot on a rookie wide receiver drafted fairly early on good offenses and in uh

you know what we picked on George a little early in the first two rounds so I just want to say I really like that George Pickens selection you like when George was Pickens George Pickens we were Pickens on George and then he picked George Pickens? We were Pickens on George, and then he Pickens. George Pickens. And I liked it. David Bell going around 13. There you go. Where did Jahan Dotson go?

Nobody likes him. Everybody hates Jahan Dotson. Where did he go? Round 11. Okay. Yeah. What was the news you had on David Bell? No, I'm not going to save it for the stat show. Oh. Yeah? No, I'm not going to save it for the stat show.

Oh yeah. No, I don't have to save it for the stat show. It's just, he led over the last, I think three seasons. He led FCS in catches over the middle, something like that.

Here we go. This is from ESPN, David Bell, Cleveland rookie wide receiver, David Bell, FBS high 67 catches on shallow or crossing routes since 2019. Don't react to that. I think we should talk about that and whether that makes sense.

No, no, I just, because I'm not going to be on that show, and Heath wasn't part of the other one. I'm curious Heath's take on this, because Adam asked us our superlatives for the rookie class on Monday's show, and I said David Bell's a dark horse candidate to lead all rookie receivers in receptions based on the role he's going to play for the Browns. So that's what he was referencing earlier.

Okay, he saved that for next week. Let's talk about our teams. I guess I'll go first. I have the fourth pick. Ended up with what? This isn't my team. Oh, sorry. It was in the wrong league. Rex

Burkhead on a roster. Sorry, I was in the wrong league. Rex Burkhead on a roster. Okay, I have Joe Burrow, Aaron Jones, and Devin Singletary. Cooper Cup, Chris Godwin, Cortland Sutton, George Kittle, and my flex right now is Amandra St. Brown.

Could be Melvin Gordon, could be Kareem Hunt. Julio Jones, I think, could be the Packers' number one wide receiver at some point. I have Kenny Galladay on the bench, Isaiah Spiller, and Trey Lance. So I actually really love this team. Burrow, Aaron Jones, Devin Singletary.

I know Heath doesn't like that, but he's the worst player on my roster, I think, of my starters. Cooper Cupp, Chris Goblin, Corlin Sutton, George Kittle and a monitor Saint Brown right now at Flex so we know you could have taken Miles Sanders over Singletary and both both of us like that better who could you have taken over a monitor Saint Brown the real Sanders Miles Sanders yeah but but I I mean I think I did find a running back I have Aaron Jones Devin Singletary

Melvin Gordon Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Spiller Spiller. When I have a top five tight end, and I think I'm strong at right receiver, I think that's perfectly fine. If you had taken, I'm just looking at the round, if you had taken Gabriel Davis. You'd like it better than Amandra St. Brown. Or Amandra St. Brown. And then just based on the injury situation,

who would you have taken over? Godwin, let's say he's out to start the season. I would have taken Keenan Allen. Yeah, that's a pretty tough team. Or A.J. Brown. Yeah. I think what worked out for me was getting Aaron Jones in round three.

Totally. Yeah, it was fortunate. Jamie, you had what, the eighth pick? I had the eighth pick, yes. Kirk Cousins is your quarterback. Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift. And your wide receivers are Michael Thomas, which was a better pick at the time.

Brandon Cooks, Darnell Mooney. Those were in rounds three, four, five. Cole Komet at tight end. Ken Walker at flex. Gabriel Davis could be in there at flex, too. You have Gasicki, Gallup, Tony Pollard, Damian Pearson, Kenneth Gainwell. What do you think?

Well, if I didn't realize with the quarterback situation, I would have probably taken Dak Prescott around earlier than I did. Then he went. Not that I don't like her cousins, but that's one thing that stands out. And obviously waiting on tight end, you see what you end up with. So aside from those two spots, which I may be streaming, I'm pretty happy with the rest of the team. I don't think it's a very good team.

Well, it's like the Michael Thomas thing. Yeah, yeah. Like when you look at the team and you say, you know, I sacrificed at tight end and I didn't get a quarter yet quite soon enough and I'm not sure if my number one wide receiver is going to be football again. That's a bad combination. All right, let's take a look at Dave's team. He had the 12th pick.

He went Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook with his first two picks. He ends up with Justin Herbert, Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook, DK Metcalf. It's like so far so good. Okay, then it gets a little dicey. DK Metcalf, Chris Olave, Adam Thielen, Kyle Pitts at tight end, and his flex is eventually going to be DeAndre Hopkins,

Tim Patrick, maybe James White if he assumes that. Oh, Raheem Mostert, Odell Beckham, and he has Dak Prescott on the bench. I don't know. This is okay. He's got pits. I like the Odell Beckham pick.

That's it? Pick 157. That's a great value. I mean, it kind of looks like, because Dave's team is pretty top-heavy with Mixon and Cook, it looks like he traded his rounds 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13 picks for five 14th round picks

and then got to have two first round running backs. So he went Mixon, Cook, and then Pitts, Metcalf, correct? Yeah. I guess how you're going to feel about Dave's team, Herbert, Cook, Mixon, Metcalf, Olave, Thielen, Pitts, and then name your flex, let's call it Raheem Mostert, is going to depend on how you feel on DK Metcalf. If you think he's just so good that he's going to be kind of a low-end number one receiver, then it's not a bad team.

But when you look at DK Metcalf, Adam Thielen, Chris Olave... Well, and I think Olave's got some significant upside, but some risk too. But man, if he could be Jameis' number one wide receiver, it'd be exciting. All right, let me see if I have time for a few emails here. I think we do. This is from Tyler D.

The subject is, it smells like Updog in here. Remember that one? What's Updog? Hey. First year doing a keeper league and a long-time redraft league. We're keeping two players from last year at cost. It's a $200 auction budget. They go up 10% in cost each year starting in year two.

PPR, two flex. I'm already keeping Kyle Pitts for $15. For my second pick, out of a 200 budget should i keep austin eckler for 43 javante williams for 16 or davante smith for five dollars uh eckler for 43 javante for 16, or Devante Smith for 5? Javante. Yeah, I wouldn't keep Pitts personally. I would keep Eckler and Javante.

Okay. From... Who's this from? Dylan? Dylan Dusty Silverman. Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest of the... Dylan? Dylan Dusty Silverman. Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest of the border. Oh, like Vancouver? Okay.

Yeah. I need keeper help. 12-team half PPR. You can keep players for three years with a two-year penalty. This is year nine of our league, and I made a huge trade two years ago, which included Mahomes.

So I've kept him last year because of that. I won last year, so that's great. So keep three. Dalvin Cook in round one, Patrick Mahomes in round two. He must have meant a two-round penalty, not a two-year penalty. That makes more sense.

Dalvin Cook in round one, Patrick Mahomes in round two, Eckler in round seven, Amonra St. Brown in round 13, A.J. D Cook in round one, Patrick Mahomes in round two, Eckler in round seven, Amonra St. Brown in round 13, A.J. Dillon in round 16. And this is the last year to keep Eckler. Can keep the rest for multiple years. So keep three. Cook in round one, Mahomes in round two, Eckler round seven, Amonra St. Brown round 13, A.J. D, round 16. Two of these are easy, and that's the running backs, Eckler and Dillon. I mean, given the fact that there's all these keepers, I probably would still keep Cook and run one, too.

Just go all running backs, and then load up a receiver. Yep. Brian in Oxnard is in a half PPR league, Dynasty Superflex. How do you determine the order of the rookie draft in a dynasty startup? Do you just include the rookie picks or actual rookie players in the startup draft, or is there another fair way to do it?

Not sure if it makes sense to keep the vets and rookies separate, but I like the idea of two drafts. Please advise. I believe what we did in ours four or five years ago was we just did reverse order of the startup. So we didn't, and we ended up doing like four drafts that summer because lots of things went wrong, but we did a startup and then for the rookie draft, we just reversed the order.

Okay. And a lot of people just, a lot of people just do one draft and include the rookies. So how do you determine the order of the, of the draft? Like random, random. the rookies. So how do you determine the order of the draft? Random. Random. I generally go in the order that I like people. We did it that way, though, because we did the startup before the NFL draft.

Right. So if you're doing it that way, then you know, but since the NFL draft's already happened, I would just do one giant draft. All right. from Caden. Grade the trade. In a 32-team PPR Dynasty League, the second-round pick is pick 211.

So he gives up Michael Carter. 32 teams here. Gives up Michael Carter. Pick 211 in the 2022 rookie draft. And a first-round pick in 2024. And he gets Aaron Jones. Grade the trade. So, 211,

you're not picking again until 2024 anyway. 211 is the 43rd pick in the draft. Right. So, yeah, I would make this trade. Yeah. I'll give it a B-. Yeah, I think so. A 2024 first scares me because there's a way I could see

that you're trading for Aaron Jones and thinking you're competing, and by 2023, your team's bad. And it would really stink in a 32-team league to give up a top-five pick for Aaron Jones. Let's trade the league at that point. The Dynasty League, it won't be around in 2024. All right, everybody, thank you very much for watching, that point. The Dynasty League. It won't be around in 2024. All right, everybody.

Thank you very much for watching, for listening. We appreciate it. We'll talk to you tonight with the scheduled release podcast. Looking forward to that. For Jamie and Heath and Shaggy B, I'm Adam. Have a good one, everybody. See ya.