Fantasy Football Today - Mock Draft Review! When Were the Rookies Drafted? Travis Hunter Round 3! (04/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

We've completed our first 12-team, 3-WR, PPR mock draft since the conclusion of the NFL Draft and we've got some major takeaways (2:10) including the strength of the running back position compared to wide receiver, and it's even stronger now that Ashton Jeanty, Omarion Hampton, RJ Harvey and the other rookies have been added. We also have a lot of news and notes (10:30) on George Kittle, JK Dobbins and Diontae Johnson among others ... Let's review the mock draft starting with Round 1 (19:50) which does include Jeanty. Should he go before Puka Nacua and Nico Collins? Then we're on to Round 2 (25:30) and Round 3 (28:50) as Travis Hunter comes off the board. Was that too early? In Round 4 (31:00), we begin a run of rookie RBs but also we might be seeing a dropoff at the WR position ... We look at Rounds 5 (39:30) and 6 (47:40) and debate TreVeyon Henderson vs. Harvey. Plus, the rookie tight ends were drafted too early. And we finish by taking a look at most of the rookies (52:00) who were selected in this mock draft and what we think of the value. Cam Skattebo vs. Jaydon Blue, when to draft Tre Harris, how to draft Jaguars RBs and more ... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the ⁠⁠⁠⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ for all the latest ⁠⁠⁠⁠sportsbook reviews⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠sportsbook To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. We have completed our first mock draft after the NFL draft. It was a lot of fun. We'll tell you where the rookies went. Ash Jentie, first round pick. No doubt about that. He was RB five off the board. I think he was the ninth overall pick.

He was to a very, very handsome drafter. Welcome to the show. This is fantasy football today. It is Wednesday, April 30th. Dave, I don't think he really agreed with the last statement I made there. He had kind of like shrugged, like, nah, not so handsome. Anyway, we welcome you and we will go through the draft.

12 teams, full PPR three receiver league. Jamie and Heath are here as well. Let's get one big fun fantasy relevant takeaway from the mock draft, Jamie. I picked 12th and I actually liked picking at the back end of round one. I think it's gonna be a good spot to be in with now a much more, I think, robust first round.

And you took Nico Collins and Christian McCaffrey. So obviously, you are confident in the progress that McCaffrey is making. I am. I also could have taken Nico Collins and Brian Thomas, Jr., which I would have also been happy with. And just seeing the way that the end of the first round fell, we'll talk about it.

But my league neighbors, Pukka Nakua and Nico Collins, You know, just seeing the way that the end of the first round fell, we'll talk about it. But um, league neighbors, Pukin Nakua, Nico Collins, if those are going to be three choices, 10, 11, and 12, uh, I'm going to be very happy picking in those balls. Heath, give me one big fun fantasy takeaway. I need to move the wide receivers up in my rankings so that I can draft some of them in the first three rounds. What do you mean by that? I think I started this draft running back,

tight end, running back, running back. And I really didn't like the wide receivers very much in round three and round four after I'd started running back and tight end. So it may be more important for me to get a really good wide receiver in round one. That was gonna be basically my takeaway as well. But my takeaway is that Heath is very tan. You look tan. Am I wrong?

I don't know if I look tan, but... No, Dave, not tan. No, it's nice is that Heath having issue with his cameras and you're pointing out, you know, when he says he doesn't want people to be looking at him today and you put the focus right on him. I think it's a compliment. He looked very, very tan. I've got, I haven't had time to shave for a few days. I got the beard going on. So maybe that's what it is. I don't think so. Yeah. I don't think he looks any tan or less. And did you say you took three running backs with your first four picks Heath? Yes. Who would do that? You.

Oh yeah, that would be me. Um, I, I, I kind of want to play off of what Heath said about ranking wide receivers higher. Uh, the, the fact that running backs went deep last year and we had great success with them combined with the draft that we just had, uh, it is a really plentiful position and you should be willing to optimize your draft strategies based on the depth that's there at running back. And I can't say it's there at wide receiver in the same way. I think there is a massive tear

break at wide receiver. It might even be before you get to wide receiver 12 or 13 in the rankings. It's going to be really tough. I think prioritizing those wide receivers, it could be a way to go and you'll still feel really good about the running backs you get later on. That is the conclusion I came to after I took running backs with each of my first three picks in this mock draft. I couldn't resist. I love the value. But when your wide receiver one is Devante Adams, yeah, I don't know if that's necessarily optimal, but it's a mock and we're just feeling things out.

And Dave had the sixth pick. He took Jameer Gibbs in round one, he took Kyron Williams in round two, and he took Chase Brown in round three. And based on took Chase Brown in round three. And based on what Chase Brown did last year after Zach Moss's injury, I said it on Saturday after day three of the draft, he should be a first round pick. I don't know if we expect the same, but mid round three for Chase Brown and Dave was like, you know, screw it. Basically, we made the pick because he didn't want to take three running backs,

but he had to. And that's exactly what I was thinking guys, like, man, does running back feel better than wide receiver this year? We've been, you know, we can have egg on our face by the middle of the season when the wide receiver, you just never know how it's going to play out. But looking back, my takeaway is, why did I draft Ashton Gentry over Pukinakua and Nico Collins

who are wide receivers three and four for me in my rankings? And I don't know, I got seduced, I guess. It's a mock draft. I wanted to see what the team would look like. I also thought I had a chance to get neighbors Nakua Collins or Brian Thomas Jr. in round two. It didn't happen. They all went before my next pick. But I thought I had a chance to get an elite wide receiver there. I got AJ Brown, who I think could be elite. But yeah, if I could do it again,

I think I would take Nico Collins or Pukka Nakuwa over Ash Jentie because yeah, getting an elite wide receiver feels pretty important this year. All right, so that's gonna be a theme that I think is gonna be talked about for months now leading into draft season is The strength of the running back position and you see it throughout the draft and I think you see it even more now Because in rounds four or five six late, you know starting in the late round for

Omari and Hampton Trevion Henderson RJ not in this order. So in the order it was Omari and Hampton then RJ Harvey Trevion Henderson, R.J. Harvey, not in this order. So in the order it was Omarion Hampton, then R.J. Harvey, Trevion Henderson, and then Caleb Johnson, and then Quinshawn Judkins in a span of 26 picks or something like that. So wouldn't you say the running back position is even stronger now than it was last week, a week ago today, Wednesday? Yes, but that's kind of what our expectation was coming out of the draft, right? We're going into draft, excuse me, that we thought that, you know, this class was going to populate several teams and, you know, change the landscape of the position. And it has, you know, I mean, you're looking at

Denver with a very, you know, intriguing option. Obviously, the Raiders clearly, you know, getting an upgrade. The Chargers revamping their entire backfield. So there's a lot to like about New England. Same thing. There's a lot to like about what these guys bring. And then I think in some of these situations, Cleveland included, you're looking at the tandem and the second guy, which in some cases the second guy may still be the first guy for what the teams are looking at, like the Patriots, for example, is still a pretty decent at least flex option, you know, so depending on how you build your team, I think it'll be interesting to contrast Dave's start to his team and Joel Cox's start to his team

who started three wide receivers with his first three picks, you know, pick number 11 to see how those two teams ended up. Oh, we will do that. And if you want to see the draft board, please go to youtube.com slash fantasy football today, youtube.com slash fantasy football today, and watch the show because the draft board is displayed throughout. Also, there will be an article on the website likely today, Wednesday, with the results as well. So that's CBS sports.com slash fantasy. We do have some news and notes to get to. I wanna do that.

I wanna read some emails that I forgot to read. We'll go through some emails very quickly. First, there's a question in the chat. Heath, where can we get your dynasty rankings? Tell the people how to get your dynasty rankings. Well, you can just look one answer down in the chat and Thomas has put a link to the dynasty rankings. There's a top 50 with tiers

for super flex leagues and an explanation of where I would take those guys if you're in a one quarterback league or a tight end premium league. It's much easier to give the super flex rankings and then say, don't take any quarterback until after round three besides cam ward if you're in one quarterback leagues leagues because this is not a one quarterback league kind of draft for the quarterbacks. But yeah, all of those are there. You've also in the last couple of days, I've updated not just the rookies but quarterback running back wide receiver tight end top 50 to 100 of each of those positions. Who's your QB two in a rookie only dynasty draft? Who's your QB two in a rookie only dynasty draft? Jackson dirt.

Yeah, I be very tempted to go with no row. If you're a one quarterback league and neither one of those guys are going in the top 36 picks, like I don't think they should, then yeah, I'd agree with you. But in a super flex league, which is really probably the only league they're going to matter in. I would go with Dart first because I think it's much more likely he gets to start. with you, but in a super flex league, which is really probably the only league that they're gonna matter in, I would go with Dart first, because I think it's much more likely he gets to start. Okay. And that did rhyme as well.

Also Heath has been working very hard in his dynasty rankings on the beach, where he's getting that awesome tan. And if you just Google Heath Cummings dynasty rankings, you will find them, the first link, very easy. I was hoping you were gonna have them Google Heath Cummings Beach. Oh, let's I wonder what would come up there.

Don't do that. I have no idea. Okay. All right. News and notes. George Kittle signed a four year 76.4 million dollar extension with 40 million dollars guaranteed. He was George Kittle was the number one tight end per game in full PPR. He averaged 15.8 PPR fantasy points per game.

Bowers and McBride were close behind. But do you, okay, so let's see. Bowers and McBride are round two picks, basically every draft we do. Kittle I took with the fourth pick of round four. What's better value, guys? McBride and Bowers in round two or George Kittle in round four?

Kill in round four. Agreed. Um. Yeah, it's it's really it's really close. Like I think Bowers, I'd rather have Bowers in round two than Kittle in round four, but Kittle in round four than McBride in round two. OK, a couple of players got the unrestricted free agent tender. So this means that they have until July 22nd to sign with new teams. If they don't, the teams that put the tender on them have

their exclusive negotiating rights. And this would be Elijah Moore with Cleveland and more relevant for us, J.K. Dobbins with the Chargers. So Dave, what does this mean for J.K. Dobbins and the Chargers backfield right now? Dave Korsunsky First of all, you almost never hear about this. It's very rare. I think it's relatively new. And it means that they have exclusive rights on a player. And it's at a pretty decent cost. Like from what I read, it's like over $3 million that the Chargers would give Dobbins if they chose to hang on to him. I don't think so. You don't?

I think it's like a 10% raise or something from what he made last year, which wasn't much. I'll try to double check for it. Did they just invent this rule? Like, I don't remember ever hearing about it. It's new. It's it's definitely newer. I wouldn't worry about it. You're right. I'm very sorry. You're 100% right. It's three point four million dollars. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. For Dobbins, it's one point one million. For Moore, it's three point four million. For Elijah Moore. So it's it's a hundred percent hundred and ten percent of the players previous year's salary. This is on ESPN. All right, apologize for interrupting you. Please continue.

So yeah, what does this mean? I don't think we should really even bother talking about it until it happens. Well, no, I mean, is there a pretty realistic chance that Dobbins is back on the Chargers now? I think if I understand the rule correctly, it's really they're trying to get compensatory picks still for these guys, which is why they're doing it.

So I would assume two things. One, the team would probably welcome back JK Davos at that price. I mean, that's great value for a player of his caliber. It would make our situation miserable. I mean, can you imagine if Hampton, Harris, and Davos were sharing touches? God, that would be terrible. But they're probably pretty confident that he's going to sign somewhere, you know, so the fact that these two teams, uh, did it, I think more already took a visit somewhere if I'm not mistaken.

Buffalo. Where? Buffalo. Buffalo. You know, so, you know, they're probably confident he's going to sign somewhere and I would assume that the chargers think that the office is going to have some, you know, interest from some teams, uh, while we're talking about this, I did see it was, I think it was a Chicago radio station reporting that Nick Chubb maybe headed to the Bears. So that's something to keep an eye on. And I took DeAndre Swift in this draft and

did it with the understanding that that's something that could still be coming. I also drafted Dobbins with the hope that if that's the case, then it's Dobbins to Chicago, which I would much rather see because I think Dobbins in a better spot this year than Nick Chubb. Dave pointing out there's an NBC Sports article that says Dobbins would make $3.4 million. So well, there's another report saying that it's 2.13 million. So to his point, this is all weird territory that we don't talk about very often. Hopefully these guys signed somewhere before late July. Yes, hope so.

Okay. Let's see what else we got in the news items here. We got, but I just want to say one last thing. Elijah Moore actually played a pretty significant role on the Browns last year. So I'm not saying that he's necessarily fantasy relevant, but he could muck it up a little bit for the other guys. Could you do that, Buffalo? I do think we-

What's that? We probably undersold and would maybe do the same. Josh Palmer's addition to Buffalo, because they did nothing in the draft, clearly, and he's gonna have some weeks where he matters, and if Elijah Moore goes to Buffalo, he's gonna have some weeks where he matters. So these Elijah Moore goes to Buffalo, he's going to have some weeks where he matters. So these are good late round picks, you know,

depending on how it shakes out and would probably impact, especially Moore, Khalil Shakir. And what about Deontay Johnson going to Cleveland? Heath? I am the wrong person to ask about Deontay Johnson going to Cleveland, because even back when he was earning 10 targets a game, I was complaining about how he never did anything with him.

I think it's good on Cleveland because the place where their roster is at right now, take a shot on a guy who used to be an elite target earner and see if he can come in and you can find something with him. But like he's the last two seasons, he's played 25 games and he has about a thousand yards receiving and didn't work out with Baltimore. Houston didn't want him back. Didn't really work out very well with Carolina. I am not really factoring Deontay Johnson in much. All right. We got to take a break. We'll finish up the news and notes. You think the Bengals will sign him,

so he just gets the entire AFC North? I think that'd be perfect. Okay, all right, we'll be right back and we'll finish up the news and notes and get to the draft. Okay, we're back. So Patriots GM Elliot Wolf said that Trevion Henderson, rookie running back, they took him in the second round,

that he is a third down, a three down back, a three down back, not a third down back, big difference. He's a three down back, but also a really good compliment. He said like compliment to Ramandre Stevenson, I'm thinking. But that they call him a three down back is very encouraging. Aaron Rodgers has no timetable to make a decision according to ESPN's Peter Schrager.

The Cowboys could be interested in bringing back Amari Cooper according to the Star Telegram. Baltimore GM Eric DeCosta expects Mark Andrews to be on the team. Daniel Popper of the Athletic thinks Quentin Johnston will have to earn his roster spot. Carolina wide receiver Hunter Renro said, hunt Renfro, excuse me, said he took 2024 off because he had ulcerative colitis. So I'm glad he has recovered and yeah, good. Google that. Yeah, it was tough for him. Lost a lot of weight, it was physically tough for him.

Cam Ward, he got the, of course, the automatic quote. He has to earn the starting job. He has to compete for the starting job. We expect him to win it. And who do you guys think are the top three rookie jerseys in terms of jersey sales? Which three rookies have the most jersey sales so far? Travis Hunter, Bayamile.

Hunter, Chantee, Carter. No way. No, you guys are wrong on two of those. So I'll tell you, I think that- Oh, no, no, no, you're wrong on one of them. Sorry. So it's so it is Hunter. Yeah, yeah, you guys are wrong. Go ahead, keep going.

Oh, Shudder Sanders. He's three. Yeah. Is he? Wow. Great pick by. I don't even know. How about the roster? Jalen Royals.

No, it's Camp Ward. I hear. No, I think a lot of people want to have a Chiefs jersey that says Royals on the back. I would have thought Tesla. Tesla. Yeah. Yeah. Cam Ward is number two. So it's Hunter Ward. Yeah, right. Somebody, Kyle Brandt from NFL Network had a really, it was really great.

Two to three minute monologue about how Cam Ward is basically the least talked about number one pick. Nobody ever talks about Cam Ward, so he just gave him his due. And it was pretty, I think it was important because we really, no one talks about him. It was like a boring number one pick as a shooter. All right, man, we gotta get to the draft.

Let's do it. Mock draft review, Ashton Genti. He's fourth. He's fourth. And here's, he's ninth in the draft. So he's fourth in Jersey sales. He's ninth in the draft. He's RB5.

He goes after Barclay, Bijan, Gibbs, Achan, and then it's Genti. That's just in the running back rankings. I'll go through round one in a second. Devon H-Hand, by the way, who Heath took one spot before I took Gentie, averaged 22.6 PPR fantasy points per game with two Atonga Vailoa last year. I believe that would have been good enough to be RB1 per game. I agonized over that decision and almost just changed my rankings and moved Gentie ahead of H-Hand. So those two a coin flippant, but happy to move back and get a better pick later. But did you have the same agony that I had of Genti versus Puka, Genti versus Nico, whichever wide receiver you would have?

No, I didn't have the foresight to see the wide receiver catastrophe that was coming at that point. I was only considering the two running backs. Okay. All right. So let's go through round one. So it's chase member. This is 12 teams full PPR, three receivers, chase, CD lamb, Saquon Barkley, Bijan Robinson, Justin Jefferson, Jameer Gibbs to Dave, Amanra St. Brown, Devon H. and to Dave, Amanrao St. Brown, Devon A. Chan to Heath, Ashton Genti to me, Malik Neighbors, Pukka Nakuwa, and then Nico Collins to Jamie. So it is five running backs and seven wide receivers in this round. Dave, your thoughts?

Sounds about right. I think we'll be seeing an even amount of running backs and wide receivers in the first two rounds. It played out that way in this draft, there were 11 running backs in the first two rounds, 11 wide receivers in the first two rounds, two tight ends, and I know that there's going to be a crunch at receiver sooner than there will be at running back, but I can't ignore the potential of a lot of these running backs that went around one and, and the potential for what, what did you say it was for HN with two at 22.6? And that, that would have been an amazing number.

Um, for example, Saquon on the year had 22.2, Bijan from week six on at 22.8. I don't know if I want to give that up to take a wide receiver that could still get around 20. And we just saw like the best year ever from Jamar chase. He averaged 23.7. Can you do that again? I don't know. I think you can come pretty close.

That's why he went at the top of the draft. But a lot of these receivers, they're going to be in the 18 game range and PPR feels safer to take them. But the allure of these running backs, especially the younger ones, it's gonna be tough for fantasy managers to totally pass up. Okay, do you think that because fantasy football is so unpredictable, that when we make our first round picks, we shouldn't necessarily think about the rest of the draft that

we should just take the best player available. And it's feel like that's kind of I think you should do that with every pick. Right. But but you know, there is the balance of man, I can get a much better wide receiver in round two than running back or round three or whatever. Or is it just yeah, I don't know what you know what I'm saying. But best player available or try to plan it out a little bit. Well, I think, you know, I obviously I read a lot of these mock drafts and you know, we're not doing our magazine anymore, but I would always kind of make this point in the magazine

that you know, we get the benefit of doing a lot of mock drafts and we have a great mock draft product. And so our audience is fantastic. They're very well versed in the subject and clearly they pay attention throughout the year. But that's why you practice this, right? You play out these theories and these strategies and see how it works best for you. And so you can clearly take best player available approach.

It sounds like that's what Dave did with his first three picks. And if you like what happened in rounds four, five, and six with his receivers, you're gonna be pretty happy with how those first three picks took out. Dan talks about this all the time, we look at and say, oh, it's a three receiver league, I gotta get three good receivers.

Well, your flex is just as important as your receivers. There's still starters in your lineup. And obviously, you wanna have some balance and you wanna obviously have a good, solid receiving core. But to start your team with Gibbs, Kyron and Chase Brown, that's amazing to say those are three starters. And so the difference is there's more volatility

at the running back position when it comes to injuries and whatnot based on the history of the game. So you're playing a little bit of a riskier situation there. But I think just in terms of you want to always get players that are going to be difference makers. And so if you have that opportunity, it's hard to pass those guys up. Now again, you want to have depth in certain spots, you can look at that. I'm looking at my start, not to jump ahead, but to go Nico Collins, Christian McCaffrey.

I could have gone Nico Collins, Brian Thomas Jr. And I probably still would have gone the same two receivers and gone four receivers to start because again, those are four starters for me. So if I would have gone Nico Collins, Brian Thomas, Rashi Rice and Garrett Wilson, like, okay, my running backs are probably going to stink. But good luck beating me at the three receiver spots in my flex potentially if everybody hits the way they're capable. All right. Yeah. Jamie took Nico Collins, Christian McCaffrey, Rashi Rice, Garrett Wilson with his first four picks. So I'll just repeat round one. Then we'll go to round two. Jamar

Chase, C.D. Lamb, Barkley, Bijan, Justin Jefferson, Jameer Gibbs, Amanrao St. Brown, Devon Achan, Ashton Genti, Malik Neighbors, Puka Nakuwa, Nico Collins. I will say that I don't think I can justify Neighbors over Puka or Nico. How about you guys? I like Neighbors over Puka. I do too. Really? I have puka over neighbors, but the three of them are very, very close. And so I don't have a strong feeling. Okay. Um, I'll have to get into that at some other time. Um, Christian McCaffrey is the first pick of round two, Brian Thomas Jr, Derek Henry, AJ Brown, Brock Bowers, Bucky Irving. That's the first half

of round two, I'll go six picks at a time. McCaffrey, Brian Thomas Jr, Derek Henry, AJ Brown, Brock Bowers, Bucky Irving. Dave, we got into a nice little debate and it's actually going to come up again, if I can get to the emails of the Rashi Rice versus Brian Thomas Jr. But you expressed some concerns about Brian Thomas Jr. with Travis Hunter there now. How are you feeling now that you've had time to digest it a little bit and do your rankings? Well, we don't know how Rishi Rice is feeling.

And I qualified it at the time saying that if Rishi Rice is right, and there's no suspension looming, there's nothing in his way, He's got a clear path to playing and being healthy in week one that he could be as good, if not better than Brian Thomas Jr. I'm I wrote it in pencil and I think Brian Thomas Jr. does have more upside than Rishi Rice, but I still think it's close. And I can't rule out that if Travis Hunter just has an absolute monster training camp and it's clear that he's going to be a receiver first and a cornerback second. I mean, the investment that the Jaguars made in him and the way they're talking

about him in the days after the draft, they can't let them be six targets per game. And call them the face of the franchise. And you just the obvious look of a team and the way that targets play out. Yeah, you've got to think that Brian Thomas Jr. is going to lose something and that he's not going to be the monster that he was to end last season. And then there's also the thought about how Trevor Lawrence played last season and he wasn't very good. His accuracy downfield was league average and I wonder if Travis Hunter is there to help them out in the short and intermediate

range. And so I think there's going to be definitely concentrated targets between those two guys. They're going to get a lot, but there's going to be some games where Brian Thomas Jr. is okay and Travis Hunter is great. Just like there's going to be some games where Travis Hunter is okay and Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be. I don't think BTJ is a first round pick. I do think he should be taken out of Rashi Rice. I've got, and there's a lot of guesswork here, but I've got Thomas at 140 targets, Hunter at 112.

If he got 140 targets, would you take Brian Thomas Jr. in the first round? No, but close to it. I don't, I don't really have that big of a problem with where Joel took BTJ. Okay. That was what is overall overall. Yeah. 14. That's fine.

All right. So it's McCaffrey, Brian Thomas Jr., Derek Henry, AJ Brown, Brock Bowers, Bucky Irving, Kyron Williams, Josh Jacobs, Trey McBride. And again, you're gonna see the two tight ends come off the board in the second round in our drafts basically every time. It gets a little interesting though, late in the second round.

There are a lot of options to choose from here. You can go with the young guys that we're hoping to break out. You could maybe think about like Breeze Hall and Tyreek Hill. I wouldn't be surprised if Chase Brown ends up in this range at some point, but the last three picks of round two, after Kyron Williams, Jacobs and Trey McBride, we have Jonathan Taylor, Drake London, Lad McConkey.

Any strong thoughts we can move on? Want to focus on the rookies? That's fine. That's where they belong. Okay. So we'll go to round three, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Breece Hall. Anybody like that pick Breece Hall second pick around three? No. Too early. Yes, especially with Chase Brown still on the board. And thank

you. And James Cook and Joe mix and I guess like mixing or Breece Hall at this point. Mixing, mixing. Damn, this is good running good running backs in round three. Alright, so JSN, Breeze Hall, T Higgins, Lamar Jackson, our first quarterback off the board. Tyreek Hill. You guys taking Tyreek Hill or T Higgins?

T Higgins, but they're close. T Higgins by a lot. T Higgins by several spots. I'm putting a tax dolphins, players not named a Chan. Chase Brown to Dave is third of three running backs, Josh Allen, Joe Mixon to Heath. I was like sitting there was like mixing or cook mixing or cook mixing or cook. He thank you for making the decision for me. You took mixing. I took James cook, and then we get Travis Hunter going 34th overall and followed by Terry McLaurin and Rishi rice. So what do we think? These are prophecy. Yeah, yes. And I don't see why Jacksonville can have two top

15 wide receivers. Can somebody count for me what receiver he was? But I just think they really don't have anyone else to take targets, right? These guys could completely dominate targets. 15th. Oh, how about that? 15th receiver.

I don't know if I would have taken him here, but I was just saying that I think there will be enough buzz where he will start going there. Anyway. So right now his underdog ADP is 50. Okay. And that's best ball. And this is Travis Hunter we're talking about. He went 34th in this draft. He went, so I'm going to name the wide receiver.

I'm going to name all the players that went after him. And you tell me if you would take Travis Hunter or Terry McLaurin. McLaurin. McLaurin. McLaurin. Yep. Rishi Rice. Rice. Rice.

Definitely Ray Rice or Rishi Rice. Why'd I say Ray Rice? Garrett Wilson. Wilson. I'll take Hunter over Wilson. It's getting and it's still Garrett Wilson. Chuba Hubbard. Hubbard. Chuba. Yep. Hubbard.

Chuba. Yep. Alvin Kamara. Kamara. Kamara. Yes, Alvin. George Kittle. Kittle. Yep.

I'm just not gonna say anything until I find somebody that- Okay, yeah, that's a better idea. When I say a name where you would take Travis Hunter over this player, then you say Travis Hunter. Ken Walker, Marvin Harrison Jr. Devante Adams, Mike Evans, Xavier Worthy, Jaden Daniels. I'll take Hunter over Worthy. Jaden Daniels, Omarion Hampton.

I'll take Hunter over Hampton. All right. All right. All right. We can stop now. So Travis Hunter goes with the 10th pick of round three and that you just heard the analysis. Let's move on to round four. It's Garrett Wilson, Chuba Hubbard, Alvin Kamara, George Kittle, Ken Walker. And I'm just going to stop there.

Look at the draft board after that. So Garrett Wilson, Chuba Hubbard, Alvin Kamara, George Kittle, Ken Walker. Do things start to get a little... When is there... The next pick is Marvin Harrison Jr., then Devonte Adams, Mike Evans, Xavier Worthy. Are we starting to get risky here with these picks? Not that they're bad picks, but is everything like kind of questionable at this point? Not yet. No? We're getting there.

Listen, I had two running backs and a tight end at that point. So obviously taking a third running back was not my favorite thing to do, but I did see a pretty big gap between Walker and the wide receivers that were left. Okay.

You took Ken Walker. I took George Kittle because I didn't love any of the wide receivers there. I had two running backs at that. I had the same situation as you, right? I had sort of, I had two running backs in my first three picks. I had AJ Brown, you had Brock Bowers. That was a difference. I just didn't love the wide receiver.

So I took Kittle and, uh receivers, so I took Kittle. And then you took Ken Walker. So I guess. And there were four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. What? 11 wide receivers taken before you picked again? Yeah, right. And then I took another running back because I missed out on this big run. All right. Anyway, we'll get to that. All right. And then I took another running back because I stepped that I missed out on this big run. Alright, anyway,

we'll get to that. Alright, so we have Marvin Harrison Jr, Devante Adams, Mike Evans, like, why is Mike Evans going this late? Did you guys agree with that? And then Chris Godwin went around later. They just drafted another wide receiver and he's 32. And he wasn't worth better than this when Chris Godwin was healthy last year. Okay, I didn't mean it to sound like I was disagreeing, just getting

out of the spot for him. But also, like you just see if you're me and you're worried about Chris Godwin coming back from this injury, you see the chance for Evans to be a top 12 receiver again. So good value here for Dan, who drafted he drafted Tyree Kill and Mike Evans in back-to-back rounds. Is that a little too risky for you guys?

Not for me, no. I, well, I don't want to kill that early, but do you, I feel like the Ibuca pick may cap Evans upside if Godwin misses time early. It's not going to be just Mike Evans and Macmillan. It's going to be Mike Evans, Macmillan and a first round wide receiver who a lot of people thought was one of the most polished first round wide receivers coming in. All right. After Mike Evans, we have Xavier Worthy who goes about eight, nine picks after Rashi Rice.

Jayden Daniels is QB3. Omari and Hampton, here we go. So now we're gonna get a little run on rookie running backs. We had Gentie going ninth overall. We have Hampton going 47th overall. The next three picks are Hampton, James Connor, David Montgomery. That's the end of round four

and the very beginning of round five And how do you guys feel about that trio there? Jamie Hampton Connor Montgomery? I Think it's gonna come down to you know, how you feel about the the veteran guys Obviously Connor's coming off an amazing season and if he stays healthy has a chance to be, you know solid again He's gonna be 30 They really didn't do anything to change their backfield So if Trey Benson's as non-existent as he was last year, then Connor's in a good spot. But again, year older escape really the injury bug, which is the first time he's done that

in a long time, at least missing, you know, the three games that he typically isn't there. So round four, given RJ's build of three receivers with his first three picks, solid turn there with Connor and Montgomery. I actually prefer RJ Harvey and Trevion Henderson to those guys, but again, if you want a little bit more of a safe, secure route, maybe a higher floor, Connor and Montgomery are fine. So yeah, Hampton should kick off the next run

of rookie running backs after Gentie, but I like the other two young running backs in terms of Harvey and Henderson better than Connor and Montgomery right now. And how about just to skip ahead to the last pick of round six as we stay on RJ's team. So RJ had the first pick of the draft. He goes Jamar Chase, Lad McConkie, Jackson Smith and Jigwa, James Connor, David Montgomery, Quinshawn Judkins.

Do you think Judkins should have been two rounds after Omari and Hampton and more than a full round after R.J. Harvey and Trevion Henderson? I mean, I could only speak for myself with what I did. So I started with one running back in my first five picks and or first four picks. And then I had the five, six turn. Joe Burrow was still on the board, so I was too hard to pass up. So at that and then I had the five, six turn. Joe Burrow was still on the board, so I was too hard to pass up. So at that point I had to make the decision of Joe Burrow, if I was gonna take Joe Burrow,

was I gonna pass on taking two running backs, which was my initial plan. And Judgins was in the conversation for me that I was having with myself apparently. But the conversation to take two running backs there. So, you know, Swift, Judgins, Pollard, and I believe Pacheco were the ones that I was considering. When did Pacheco go? Round seven.

Round seven. Oh yeah, there he is. That's wow. I think that might be my favorite pick now that I just discovered it. I'm terrified. Why? Come on, let's take it. Not around seven, you can't be terrified. No, no, I just don't. I'm terrified of taking the money earlier. Why? Because I think the chiefs probably are just going to go with a committee at running back.

And they, I think there's a real possibility, Brashard Smith is in that like Jerrick McKinnon type role, the way they're talking about him or Kareem Hunt is. And we're still counting on Mitchell being something or Pacheco being something he wasn't the last time we saw him. He was injured. He's fine. He's great.

He's gonna be fine. Don't worry about it. You're hoping so if you're taking him. Round seven. All right. Let's go to so where we're at. We're at the end of round four on to round five. And we're also at time for a commercial break. Thomas go to break. Go, go, go, go, go. For those of you who didn't see on YouTube,

we just had a Gladiator 2 promo. Did you guys see it? Yeah. Yeah. I was pretty into it. I watched about 45 minutes. Seemed very good. Very, very exciting. I watched the whole it. I watched about 45 minutes. Seemed very good. Very, very exciting. I watched the whole thing. I liked it so much. It's great. Thomas ruined it for me though. We saw it and then told told me about the one scene that just killed it for me. But

otherwise, I loved it. Okay, good. On to round five. We'll focus on the rookies here. Montgomery, Zay Flowers, DJ Moore. Zay Flowers, two earlier there, what do you think? Yep. Okay, DJ Moore, Jamison Williams, Cortland Sutton. Why should he be going, he went to the team with Mike Evans. Should Cortland Sutton be going before Mike Evans? I would do it, yeah, right now. I would not. I think they're relatively close. But I would, I would rather bank on Mike Evans getting new around 15 PPR points, bring me PPR points per

game because he's done it. And we've seen it for years. Whereas Sutton just had a monster year was one of his best ones. Now what's going to happen when Denver's run game potentially gets better. They added a rookie and Pat Bryant that I think can come in and play. They were Peyton was comparing him to Marcus Colston. That ain't good for Colt for Cortland Sutton. I think he'll be good, but I don't I don't want to overdraft Sutton. Okay, so the next pick is Chris Godwin to Dave. So Dave went

three running backs, three receivers, Gibbs, Kyron, yeah, exactly. Gibbs, Kyron, Chase Brown, Devante, Chris Godwin, DK Metcalf, and then he took Dave into Joku. And they took two more receivers, but Devante, Chris Godwin, DK Metcalf. How do you feel about rolling out those three players? I think I got a little lucky to get those guys, to be honest with you. And if you had told me before the draft that these would be my top three receivers,

after I got three of my top 10 running backs, I'd be really happy. But I wouldn't expect this to necessarily be the case all the time. But that's what made my draft work for me was, I still feel that Devante Adams can deliver good numbers, especially in LA playing in that slot role. If that's what he's going to do, especially if he's going to work in the

red zone as well and be a factor for touchdowns, yeah, he's going to be great. If Godwin is healthy, we saw what his upside was last year. New offensive coordinator. Uh, don't really care about that in Tampa Bay. Baker Mayfield's the one that matters here. And I think that Godwin can potentially be the best receiver about that in Tampa Bay. Baker Mayfield's the one that matters here. And I think that Godwin can potentially be the best receiver in Tampa. If he were healthy and ready to go, I'd put him ahead of Mike Evans in full PPR.

And DK Metcalf is probably going to be the number one receiver in Pittsburgh. Certainly profiles more of a number three fantasy receiver, but a top end one. And that's what I drafted him to be. So I'm actually thrilled with the players that I got. I just don't know if I would get these same three receivers again, if I started triple running back in my draft. Okay. And Dave also took Caleb Williams in round 10

and Trevor Lawrence in round 14. So he really waited in the quarterback. How is Lawrence, if we're in love with Brian Thomas Jr. and calling him a top 15 pick, and Travis Hunter is going to be around three or around four pick? How is Trevor Lawrence lasting until the final round of a fantasy draft that doesn't add up? No, well, so there are a couple guys, Trevor Lawrence with my last pick. And if this offense stinks, so what?

I wasted a pick, but if it's good, then we know that Trevor Lawrence should be at least a serviceable fantasy starter. I don't think our drafts are mocks are often not indicative of quarterback ADP. I'd be surprised if Lawrence is available that late in regular dress, but maybe. I'm trying to look at the list of quarterbacks who have produced two top 15 or top 16 wide receivers. So the you know, you got like burrow last year, but I think he's kind of like top 20 because Baker.

Yeah, but guys that guys that weren't were not amazing were two in 2022. He was QB eight per game. He only played 13 games. Russell Wilson in 2021. He was QB 15 and 14 games. So he's probably like close to 12 per game. He had DK McAfee and Tyler Lockett. You had Kirk Cousins, it was QB 11 when he had Jefferson and Thielen in 2020. You had Jared Goff, had Cooper Cup and Robert Woods. Now I have a feeling Robert Woods had some rushing totals in there. Goff was QB 15 that year in 2019.

Kirk Cousins again was QB 12 in 2018 when he had Thielen and Diggs as top 11 wide receivers. So it is possible to give two must start wide receivers and not have a standout fantasy season. But you're going to at the very least, you're going to be flirting with the top 12. So I do think your point is taken. If people really buy into Hunter and Brian Thomas, you should probably draft Trevor Lawrence because there's no way he's not going to be at least worth rostering. All right. So keep moving on here in round six, around five, pardon me. After Chris Godwin, we have the round is Montgomery, Zay Flowers, DJ Moore, Jamison Williams, Cortland Sutton, Chris Godwin, Devante Smith, Jerry Judy, RJ Harvey, Jerry Judy to Heath, RJ Harvey to me,

Judy, R.J. Harvey, Jerry Judy to Heath, R.J. Harvey to me, Sam Laporta, who is tight end for Trevion Henderson and Joe Burrow to Jamie. So I had a lot of trouble with Harvey versus Henderson. I think I use most of the clock on that pick. Don or Dan in our chat pardon me says, I'm so confused at the R.J. Harvey pick in round five. Don't you guys think it will be an ugly spit split between the Goughlin estimate and Harvey? My answer to that is yes for the first couple of weeks

and then not so much after that's what I'm banking on. I can't say that there's gonna be less of a split in New England with Ramon Dre and maybe Antonio Gibson for a little bit. I have confidence in both of these guys, but I went with Harvey. I don't know if I do the same thing in the next draft. It's really a toss up to me between Harvey and Henderson, but I love these running back. And they're second round picks for a reason.

The other guys in their backfields aren't really that good. And if I looked at both Denver and New England backfields, to me, the best veteran running back is Ramandre Stevenson. I think he is the stiffest competition for these two rookies. And that is probably why I went with Harvey there. What did you guys think of Harvey and Henderson mid to late round five? I thought you made the right choice. I would go as well. I'd go Henderson in full PPR. I'd go Harvey in half. Did you think this was the right spot for those running backs? I have them both in round five. I only have Harvey in round five. I have them both in round five. Okay. I only have heart in round five.

I have them both in this range. Yeah. Jamie, you're, you're kind of someone I would expect to have Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence on your team. That's Dave's team. You took Joe Burrow, uh, 60th overall. So, uh, you know, you love waiting on quarterbacks and you did sort of wait, but what made you pick burrow here?

And you also had Jalen Hertz on the board. He was picked three picks later. Yeah, those are QB four and five for me. So I thought it was just a little, you know, silly to pass on one of them given the value. And again, so the way that the board sort of fell, I was like, okay, maybe I'll get Harvey, maybe I'll get Henderson. And then it was do I take two running backs or do I, you know again the best player on the board and so just knowing what burrow and hurts are capable of doing it just seemed like a no brainer to take the quarterback and kind of play the you know running back depth game out as the

draft unfolded so if I had gone zero RB at that point I probably would have taken two running backs but I probably would let's just say McCaffrey was Bowers or McBride in round two. And then it's, you know, your receivers then it would have been, you know, a little bit hard to I guess, I'd still be taking Brian I don't know I'm talking about. But in any event, burrow and hurts just too good value to pass up at that point. So yes, did something that I don't normally do, but it was, you know, just based on the position. We're gonna look at one more round, then we'll just focus on the rookies here

and we'll read some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com to finish the show. Again, if you want to see the full results, there's going to be an article on the website, cbsports.com slash fantasy, or go to youtube.com slash fantasy football today and watch this video. Click on the live tab if you're having trouble finding any videos, click on the live tab and you'll see all of these full length shows. I don't think you'll see FFT Express in that live tab, but you will see these full-length shows. You will not see Express in the live tab. You can see that in the videos tab. All right. So Jamie, Deandre Swift was the first pick of round six. If Nick Chubb goes to the Bears, would you take Quincheon Judkins of the Browns or Deandre Swift? Who would

you take in that scenario? Judkins, you know, and I don't think Nick Chubb is going to necessarily crush Deandre Swift just because I'm a little nervous about Chubb, you know, at his age coming off the injuries that he's had the past couple of years. But clearly he would be the lead running back to start the season. So I would guess that Swift would still have a pretty prominent role but he should not go in this spot ahead of somebody like Judkins, ahead of Pacheco, for me at least, ahead of Caleb Johnson, you know, if you're playing out the rest of the board. So Swift would get a pretty significant downgrade after the upgrade he just got because of what

happened in the NFL draft or lack thereof. All right. We got maybe our first big reach of the draft coming up, but let's see. We got Tet McMillan. No, he doesn't like to be called Tet McMillan. So we're going to go Tetaroa McMillan is the next pick after Deandre Swift, second pick of round six.

Swift, Tetaroa McMillan. Do we like that value for McMillan? Too soon. It's a little early for me. The next three receivers off the board are Olave, Cup, Metcalf. Are you taking them over Tetaroa McMillan? I would take McMillan over Cup.

I would take McMillan over Metcalf. Okay. Okay. After Tedorola McMillan, it's Jalen Hurts, Chris Olave, Cooper Cup. Who do you think Chris Olave's quarterback is gonna be in week one? Derrick Hart.

Spencer Rattler, Tyler shock, Cooper cup Tyrone Tracy, cam scataboo would go three rounds later. DK met cat this too early for Tracy or now? Yes. Yes. Did see him go ahead of you know, Caleb Johnson Johnson and quit, quit John Judkins was a little too soon for me. All right. That's mid round six. DK Metcalf to Dave, Caleb Johnson, Savion Williams. That's our big reach here. This was a Packers rookie wide receiver drafted in round three. Went ahead of Matthew Golden. So I don't see a justification for this Savion Williams pick. Jalen Waddle is next. And then maybe another reach, Colston Loveland.

This is the second to last pick of round six. And then Quinshawn Judkins is the last pick of round six. What do we think about Loveland here? I would say this early as the fifth tight end off the board. Too soon. Yeah, probably four rounds too soon for me. this early as the fifth tight end off the board. Too soon. Yeah, probably four rounds too soon for me. Wow. Maybe three. And Dave, you sat there in the seventh round and you took Njoku and that was after Loveland

and Tyler Warren. Warren would go a few picks after Loveland. So did you have Njoku ranked ahead of Loveland and Warren? Yes. No joke, who is a top five tight end for me this year. I fully expect him to have that same exact role that he had each of the last two years for Cleveland. I think he's locked into it. Short area targets, red zone targets, and a potential top five finish a tight end. He gets that real. I seventh pick. He gets that role for one more year. Yeah. Help. And then it's Harold Vannin's turn. Yeah. So Dave must have been pretty happy to see Loveland and Warren go so he could take. Well, I mean, I

really, I love Warren and I want to try and get him on pretty much every team I can, but not in round seven. There's a price to be paid and if I can get in a joke over Warren, of course I'm going to do that. But I'm looking for Warren in round nine or round 10. And it kind of sucked that I couldn't get them, but it's a mock can't be that upset about it. And I'm happy to see somebody else excited about Warren. You can be upset about it. This is a space where if you want to be upset about a mock draft, you can be upset about a mock draft. There space where if you want to be upset about a mock draft You can be upset about a mock draft

There's too many times at least I'd say once a draft where I am just very angry at somebody sniping me in a mock draft All right, so going through the real drafts All right the rookies So we have gente ninth overall as RB five Travis hunter in late round three, which these guys would not have taken them there. Um, we get a Marion Hampton late in round four, which we were comfortable with that, right? 47th overall. I think that's late. Oh, okay. I think I bet by the time we get to August, he'll be going a lot higher. And let me see.

So Hampton goes, when did Najee Harris go? Around nine, I think. Yeah, round nine, late round nine. So Hampton goes five rounds earlier than Najee Harris. We've got RJ Harvey and Trevion Henderson in round five, two picks separating them. Ted McMillan, or Ted, excuse me, Ted O'Rourke McMillan in round six, which we said was a little early.

Caleb Johnson mid round six, three picks ahead, three rounds ahead of Jalen Warren, who went in round nine. We're good with Caleb Johnson mid round six? Yes. Yeah. And I think I'm probably alone on this, Johnson mid round six? Uh, yes. Yeah. And I think I'm probably alone on this, but I, I think that it's like 51, 49% who's better this year, Hampton or Johnson. So I think if you, if Hampton's going in round four and you can get

Johnson in round six, I love that. I agree. And this is another guy that'll probably rise by the time we get to August. I also wouldn't be surprised if it's 51-49 in terms of Johnson and Jalen Warren. As far as snaps? Production. That would surprise me. Production would surprise me. Snaps would surprise me if it's that close.

I feel like Johnson- I know who's going to get more touch. 2023, Warren was better than Najee. And then Warren missed time last year. I feel like I know who's going to get more touch. 2023 Warren was better than Najee and then Warren missed time last year. I think Warren. 2024, James. It's a different play caller in 2024. Oh, totally. But I think Warren, you know, banged up last year. And then when he started to come on at the end of the season, he was out producing Najee. Yeah, I know. I love the kid, but it's been two years. He's never been given the chance to really take over. And the way that Omlin talked about Caleb Johnson after the draft just makes me think

that they're just going to plug them right back into that nausea role and they're going to expect better efficiency. Yeah. I don't think they're wrong. I don't think Jaylen Warren is taking over and I don't think he has to take over in what he does to be productive in this format, this format, this scoring format. Right. But the question is more productive than Caleb Johnson. No, I think it'll be a slight edge for Caleb Johnson. Whereas in two seasons ago, when Jalen Warren was healthy, he was more productive than Najee Harris. Oh, I can't stay. We got to like, he was 0.2 fantasy points per game better in full PPR. Can we just call it a tie? Can we just call it a tie?

I'm not going to argue that, but you know, 51 49 is what I said. You know, it's not like point two is pretty close to 51 49. But you're saying he was better. He was basically tied and, and Najee was better in the other two formats on a per game basis. And they were tied in full PPR. And I think Caleb Johnson and the other two formats will be significantly better than Jalen Warren. But in this situation, and again, just to piggyback off what Heath was saying, you know, if the comparison is Hampton and Caleb Johnson and how their roles will sort of shake out

or maybe how their production will shake out more importantly, I think Jaylen Warren's production, if there's a three round difference, I'd be taking Jaylen Warren over to Caleb Johnson all day long. I think it's interesting that we've got two guys, like it's been at least two years, maybe three that we've wanted Jaylen Warren to play more and Najee Harris to play less. And now we've got two running backs that are drafted to play with those two guys. Yeah. And the assumption seems to be that Najee is clearly going to take a back seat

and Warren and Johnson might split. I think they might both just be less than 60, 40 splits. Well, you know, again, Johnson's going to have to play better than Najee played, right? Because he's going to get an opportunity. He's going to have to do more with it than what Najee Harris did. All right. It's going to have to outperform Najee Harris did. Um, all right. Hampton's going to have to outperform Najee. And we saw it from this coaching staff last year when JK Dobbins was healthy. Eventually it didn't take that long. Took like two weeks for the coaching staff in LA to say, okay, enough with the Gus bus, put them in park and let's roll with Dobbins.

And the numbers bear it out. Dobbins had a lot more playing time and a lot more opportunity when the coaches realized and were comfortable with him leading the way in LA. And so if that's if that same situation plays out where now he's not bad, but Amari and Hampton is just wow, amazing, then I think we should expect Amari and Hampton to get a ton of work for the Chargers. And I think you should draft them accordingly. Yeah, I mean, I've I've been as critical and nauseous as anybody, but I still think

he's a lot better than Gus. Oh yeah. But Hamptons might be a lot better than Dobbins. Right. That's what we're hoping. That's what we're banking on. Dobbins, by the way, was RB 18 per game last year in full PPR. He actually had 32 catches in 13 games. They did throw to him a decent amount. All right, other rookies here. Where do we leave off? We left off with Henderson and Harvey and then no, then Teterowah McMillan and Caleb Johnson. Obviously that's where we left off. Okay, so after Caleb Johnson in round six, we have Colston Loveland and Quinchon Judkins in round six. So beginning with Hampton in round four, we are getting a lot of rookies

off the board in basically a two round stretch. Hampton, Harvey, Trevion Henderson, Teterroa McMillan, Caleb Johnson, Savion Williams, which we think should not be the case. She should not be drafted. I don't know if he should be drafted at all. Colston Loveland, Quincheon Judkins. Then we get Tyler Warren in round seven as tight end six, which is too early. All right. And let me refer to my notes here. Matthew Golden in round eight. Matthew Golden goes just app says his first round pick for the Packers rookie wide receiver Matthew Golden just after Ricky Pearsall and Khalil Shakir. Your thoughts Heath? I think he should go just after Khalil Shakir, but basically in the same type of range. I probably reached a little bit for Ricky Pearsall trying to do the friendship strategy after

I took Joanne Jennings around earlier. And I don't, I feel like it's going to be Jennings is the one and Pearsall is the two. I think Dave and Jamie have them almost back to back as kind of a, we'll see which one's the best one in the offense. And I, as someone who was, didn't take a wide receiver in the first four rounds, I wanted to have both of them to give me myself a better chance of having another wide receiver too. Cam Scataboo goes in round nine. So Tyrone Tracy went in the middle of round six, Cam Scataboo early in round nine. And then two picks later, Jaden Blue. Who do you guys prefer? Jaden Blue to the Cowboys, Cam Scataboo to the Giants. Scataboo. I'll take Scataboo by a lot, huh? Right now, yeah.

I'm going to say Jaden Blue by a lot. A lot. This is, I was surprised. I'm surprised by your answer. This one's not even close for me. Definitely taking Jaden Blue. I think the, I don't even have to get into the reasoning. You know why.

Cause you're a giant, Tim. No, I don't. Because he could be the starting running back for the Cowboys, and I don't think Cam Scataboo can just take over this backfield. And I think Tracy and Singletary are tougher competition than the crud veterans that are in Dallas. And I'm not a huge Scataboo guy,

I'm a little conflicted on him. So, you know, Jaden Blue, can we start a go fund me? It's only going to take $3 million to get JK Dobbins to the Cowboys. They're fine. That, that would be fantastic. I, I'm, I wasn't particularly high. In fact, not high at all. I'm blue coming into the draft.

It's a fantastic running back class. And so he might just be a great sleeper, but, um, I don't think he's a full time starting running back for anybody. I don't think you put them in the role of a passing down sky and maybe just specifically like an air back who only is going to play an obvious passing situations, then sure. But that's not going to be all the time. Well, I might think we'll catch it's a game and that might be too generous.

It might even be worse than that too. Cause Skataboo at least has a pathway to being the one B back in New York. So I'd rather have Skataboo. Jaden blue doesn't have that path. Go ahead, Heath. What are we going to say? Uh, I think Skataboo, my, my difference is I think Scadaboo has a chance to be the 1A back. I think it's possible he's leading the backfield and Tracy's the number two.

I think it's maybe more likely in the second half. But like the problem with being the pass catching back is I think it's unlikely that he's better than Javante Williams in pass protection this year. I'm not banking on him being the passing downs back. I'm banking on Jayden blue being the first and second down back at some point. Not bad. No, I'm not banking on it, but I'm hopeful, more hopeful of that because I, I think, I think Javonte stinks unless he can re regain his form from pre ACL. But I watched some tape after the Jayden blue pick just to see like, what do

we got with Javante Williams? And he just looks like a fullback right now. So I just, and by the way, I should mention Javante Williams went in between scataboo and Jayden blue. It went scataboo, Javante, Jayden blue. I think honestly, the big separator to me is Cowboys versus Giants. I should have said that. I just want to get a player on the cowboys instead of a player on the giants at this point. Giants might be better this year. No. Would you have taken blue over Trey Harris in round nine? No, I think Trey Harris was a steal. I think that was a, they played different positions,

but I think Trey Harris was a- Spears in round 10. Would you have taken Blue over Tige Spears? No. So, you like Jaden Blue, but you're not willing to take him with a pick in the first 10 rounds. I think I like Jaden Blue about as much as I liked Rico Dowdle last year, and it took too long for it to happen, but eventually it paid off. And I don't really see a reason why the same thing can't happen.

I just hope it happens earlier. Where's the Cowboys would have kept Rico Dowdle and not dealt with this mess? I agree. But Rico Dowdle, I mean, let's talk about who Rico Dowdle was. It's not like he's a big back that looks like he's suited for a starting role. He got that because the other options stunk. And that's kind of what I'm hoping for Jayden Blue. Please let J.K. Dobbins go to Dallas. That's fine, too. I'd be fine with that.

But Dave, you did mention Trey Harris. He's the next rookie off the board. And yeah, right? Am I missing one? He's before a Bucca, right? Sorry, Trey Harris. And then we had a Bucca the next round, I think. Yeah.

Bucca was round 10. You guys like Trey Harris round nine and Mecca Buka round 10, Basial Tooten round 10. Those are our next running backs. Oh, Harris too soon for me. Me too. Why?

I feel- Buka definitely too soon. I feel like we were too low. I mean, everybody was, but we were way too low on Lad McConkey last year. So why are we saying- He's still there. I know, but we thought like, we were like,

oh, Josh Palmer. If Trey Harris is good, he's gonna have plenty of opportunities. They don't have a crowded receiving core. No, they don't. It's just too soon. I don't, I don't want to draft them in that spot. I've got them as a late round 12 pick.

Well, you're wrong. All of you are wrong. 12 pick, but I would take Jayden blue over Trey Harris. I have Trey Harris as a late round 12 pick actually 140 overall. Wow. All right. All three Jacksonville running backs went between rounds nine and 12 with tootin in the middle. It went ETN, tootin and bigsby. How do you guys rank them?

Uh, ETN blue bigsby. ETN bigsby. ETN bigsby. But this feels like a case of Jamie's classic. I want the last one. No, I want to get in. If I can get take Bigsby with like my second to last pick or something like that. Sure. Take the chance on him. Put them on my bench. See what happens. Wait, you said blue you meant to Jamie. Etn tootin bigsby. I mean, I keep doing that. Yes, tootin.

No, it's okay to be excited about jaden blue. I get it. I mean, I'm excited about jaden blue, just not in that spot. I made a very compelling case. I'd be excited too. If I were listening to me and not be taken ahead of scataboo either one. Okay. All right. I'm going to wrap it up here. So I wanted to read these emails that I neglected last time. There are other picks Luther burden, DJ, Giddens, your Besh, Jack Besh going pretty late. One of the last rookies off the board. All right. Emails.

We're going to go through these quickly here. Fantasy football at CBSI.com. This is kind of a longer one. Well, Matthew, I did want to bring this up. Matthew said, why are you scoffing at Dave's? Was she rice? You know, in comparison to Brian Thomas Jr. Last year with everyone on the chiefs completely healthy, Rice was on pace for 1600 yards, 136 catches and 11 touchdowns before the injury.

Seemed like you, Adam and Jamie were completely ignoring his production from last year. I responded and I said, you know, it's he's coming off this the knee injury and they didn't have everyone healthy last year. They didn't have Marquis Brown at that point. point zaver worthy that was the beginning of the year zaver worthy was doing nothing so i don't think the circumstances are exactly the same but i did want to you know i'll take responsibility if i by scoffed at dave's comparison unnecessarily so i apologize for that but jamie yeah i know david david yelling at me the entire week for this, just so you know. But Jamie, a response to that? I just think Thomas in his current situation, even with the addition of Hunter still has

a higher ceiling right now than Rashi Rice because of the injury, because of the guys that Kansas City still has. But clearly I think Rice should not be drafted that far behind as I took him in this draft. All right, the next email is from Ben. So now that the draft is over and Travis Hunter's on the Jags, who should be 101? It's a, so obviously you're gonna say Genti, but let me tell you this. It's 16 teams and it's PPR and it's IDP.

And he would get points for both offense and defense stats. So if that's the case, who would you take number one? Chanty. Chanty. I'll still go Chanty but Hunter is the clear number two. And he'd be the clear number two in non-IDP too. We've got a dynasty question here from a Kansas Jayhawk. I think his name is D-Mart.

Yeah, he is asking himself questions. No, it's H-Mart. And it says, dear Adam, Heather, Dave and Jamie. So I think that was probably an auto-correct. That's a thing that people do sometimes. It's okay. He's worried about J. Teteroa McMillan's inability to get separation in college.

And he's worried about this style of Big 12 wide receiver. They have bad track records. Kevin White, Josh Dox, and Quinton Johnston, all tall Big 12 wide receivers who come to mind. Do you think, are you guys concerned about Teteroa McMillan at the next level? Kevin White, Josh Dox, and Quinton Johnston, all tall big 12-wire receivers who come to mind. Do you think, are you guys concerned about Tedarola McMillan at the next level? Not to the same extent that I was concerned about White and Dotson. I think McMillan just, he moves very uniquely for a guy his size. And I think that short area quickness that he has is what does give him the ability to separate. Now we'll see if it, it causes them to struggle a little bit with, uh,

defenders at the NFL compared to the big 12, but I think the combination of those quick feet and he's a giant out there. Just being able to put his arm up and all of a sudden he's eight feet tall. Perfect to catch those tops from Bryce Young who played well toward the end of the year last year. Gives me hope that Ted O'Rourke McMillan can be a very good receiver.

Did people think Kevin White couldn't run? No. He could run. Couldn't separate him from anything else. Same with Dotson. I don't know, that's what the email said. I don't know what the point is. Yeah, but that's the knock on McMillan is that he can could run. Couldn't separate anything else. Same with Datsun. I don't know. That's what the email said. I don't know what the point is.

Yeah, but that's the knock on McMillan is that he can't run. Sure. Like his straight line speed is competitive, but it's not. No, I mean, look, if you're hoping McMillan succeeds, you're hoping he's Drake London. Like if that's the type of receiver he's going to be. That can win contested catches and be physical know, Michael Pittman too, I think, you know, those were the comps for me, at least, you know, on him is that, you know, guys kind of, you know, win contested catches.

And to Dave's point, you know, Bryce Young played better. Is Bryce Young the type of quarterback to make McMillan the eighth overall pick in the NFL draft? And, and I don't know if you want to use the word elite but an elite fantasy option I mean based on where he his draft status is and where dynasty managers and rookie only drafts have to take him you know so that's my concern especially in his rookie season you know I don't think feeling is going away unfortunately and before the draft they were making all sorts

of arguments, the Panthers were, about Leighgett being a number one receiver. So does he get a bigger opportunity too? And this one is from Stefan. At 202 in a, did you say Diggs? No, it's Urkel actually. At 202 in a Superflex tight end premium rookie draft, I can either go Caleb Johnson,

who can help me win this year, or I can get Tyler Warren. I am a top three contender. So would you take Caleb Johnson or Tyler Warren in a tight end premium rookie draft, knowing that he could win the league this year? And he already has Trey McBride. Warren.

If it's tight end premium, you have to take Warren. I think, yeah, I might see, you probably can't move back one spot, but if the guy behind you really wants Warren, see if you can add a little something and then get Caleb Johnson. But I'd probably take Warren. He said it's 202? Mm-hmm. How is Warren getting to the second round in the Titan and premium draft? I don't know.

Yeah, he might make do you think he meant one or two? He said no. He meant one of the boys need taking hunter. He called it amazing. He's one of the when he's debating kaleb johnson and tyler warren. That's ridiculous. No, it's not. He said 202. He said I can grab the amazing value of tyler warren.

Maybe it's a team league. Maybe he would know. Maybe it's possible that warren last that long in an 18 league. It is super flex, but still like it's such a bad year for super flex. There wasn't much of a difference between the super flex draft and the and the one QB draft that we did yesterday. I mean, yeah, look, Warden and Dart went around one. Yeah, not but not much of a difference. right? I mean, like Ward was around two pick

in the one QB league, right? They both around two. I thought the quarterbacks went too early in the one QB league. Too early? You thought they went too early? In the one QB, yeah. I don't know, like I wouldn't take Cam Ward

before pick 20 and I wouldn't take Dart in the first 36 picks in a one QB league. I think I had close to pick 20 and I wouldn't take Dart in the first 36 picks and I won QB League. I think I had close to pick 20 and I was considering Ward. I would have probably would have taken him in the second round but he was off the board. There were five quarterbacks drafted into Super Flex one and only four and one two. Okay. All right everybody. We're out of here. Thanks for the long show. I appreciate y'all, your patience and your emails at fantasyfootball.cbsi.com. FFT Express coming up right now.

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