Fantasy Football Today - Most Interesting NFC Projections! (07/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

We'll run through some of the most scintillating projections this week, starting in the NFC. For Heath and Chris, what were some of the most challenging projections (5:30)? How did they approach the t...eams with rookie QBs (8:40)? And we've got news and notes (12:00) including reports on the 49ers backfield ... Getting into some projections, we look at David Montgomery's carries and efficiency (19:50) and how we see the targets for DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett being distributed (26:40) ... Heath and Chris are far apart on Dak Prescott's pass attempts (35:00) but are they on the same page in their projections for the Bucs passing game (42:00)? ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. All right, what's going on? Welcome back from a holiday weekend. Big week coming up. We got two projection shows. We got a live mock draft with listeners.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And as always, we're going to be reading your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. It is Tuesday, or late morning, I guess. 10.30 a.m. Eastern here. I'm Adam Azer with three analysts today. Heath Cummings and Chris Towers. We're going to be looking at their projections. Jamie Eisenberg is going to be giving his thoughts as well. Gotta wish Chris Towers a happy
Starting point is 00:01:58 birthday, though. Happy belated, Chris. Sorry I didn't text you on your birthday at midnight. No, it's okay. I was deep into a five-hour karaoke session. Really? I set off some fireworks to celebrate. You know, I was about nine before I figured out that everyone was lying when they said all the fireworks were for me.
Starting point is 00:02:20 But I appreciate you continuing the tradition. Thank you. It took a really long time for you to figure that out. Chris's birthday is July 4th. I was a really gullible kid, okay? And Jamie's here as well. Good morning, Jamie. Good morning. Happy birthday, Chris. And happy 4th of July
Starting point is 00:02:37 to everyone out there, even though it's July 6th. Hope it was a great, great weekend. I made awful cheeseburgers, but other than that, everything was great. Scott Fishbowl is underway. Who has made more than three picks? I'm in round six. No way.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Turbo Scott Fishbowl. I have made one pick. One pick? Three for me. Heath, how about you? Two. Two? All right.
Starting point is 00:03:02 All right, Jamie, what do you got so far? What pick did you have? I had the fifth pick. So I started with Kelsey and Tannehill before the reversal. I was thrilled to get Kelsey at five. Kelsey five. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We started three quarterbacks in a row. It went Mahomes, Allen, Kyler with our first three picks. The great Eric Young, who, as I told you on the live show, when we did the Scott Fishball mock draft, picking in front of me, he got McCaffrey at four. So he didn't get Derrick Henry as he did in our mock draft. And then I took Kelsey. So I took Tannehill to screw him over because I know he wanted Tannehill.
Starting point is 00:03:36 He was the last of my top ten quarterbacks available. So quarterbacks went really flying off the board there. And then I went – I've taken three running backs in a row. So I went Kelsey, Tannehill, Akers, Dobbins, Gaskin. Kelsey, Tannehill, Akers. Oh, a lot of running backs there. Okay. So this is a super flex league. So QBs go really early.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's also tight end premium. So tight ends get a huge boost. That's why Kelsey is often going to be a top three pick. He was in my league and he was in Chris's league. I think I saw a few leagues he went one. Yep, I could see it. No, I took him two. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Okay, so Chris, what's your team so far? Travis Kelsey is number two. We've already had someone removed from our league for timing out on their first pick. It has not gone well in the Beyonce division so far. Oh, man. Ed, Heath, how about you? I had the 10th pick, which was not very much fun for the first two picks,
Starting point is 00:04:36 but it's about ready to be more fun. I took Dak Prescott in the first as the sixth quarterback off the board, and then by far my most controversial pick, probably the whole draft. I took Aaron Jones with the third pick in the second round ahead of Saquon Barkley and Ezekiel Elliott and Jonathan Taylor. Wow. And I had the fourth pick and Chris Heath was saying,
Starting point is 00:04:59 it's about to get a lot more fun for him with the 10th pick. That's because there's a third round reversal. It does. It's does not snake in the third round. It snakes after that. But basically if you have the, let him with the 10th pick that's because there's a third round reversal it does it does not snake in the third round it snakes after that but basically if you have the let's say the 12th pick you have 12 13 and then 25. so uh it's great to be at the end yeah but it's really great to be it because there's so many good players still the quarterback's cool early right right and i had the fourth pick i took dalvin cook over darren waller which is a very tough decision because waller outscored Cook in this format last year.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But I took Cook, and then I took Brady, and then I got Mark Andrews with the 33rd pick, which I was pretty happy about. Yeah. How high did Pitts go on yours? I think he's still on the board. No, no, I'm sorry. He went three picks before Andrews.
Starting point is 00:05:46 He went before picks. He went 29th. And then Goddard two picks later. He went 14th in mine. It's crazy. I agree with you. No people are in love. Three picks after George Kittle.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It's funny, Adam. The guy who has the fourth pick in my league also started with Dalvin Cook and Tom Brady. Really? All right. I'm pretty happy about it cook and Tom Brady. Really? All right. I'm pretty happy about it. I love Brady and we'll tell you why we're going to do a Tampa Bay Buccaneers passing game projections.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Um, first some intro questions about your projections, Heath and Chris, both doing them this year. And what was your toughest projection? Heath, we'll start with you, your toughest projection.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And we're just, if you could stick with the NFC, this is our NFC show tomorrow. AFC. Just you. Your toughest projection. If you could, stick with the NFC. This is our NFC show. Tomorrow, AFC. Just the entire Philadelphia Eagles offense. Everything about them. You've got a couple of coaches, head coach and offensive coordinator,
Starting point is 00:06:35 who come from systems in Indianapolis and with the Chargers, where the head coach, Frank Reich and Anthony Lynn, if they don't call the plays, they have a very heavy influence on that. So I don't know that we have a great idea of exactly what type of offense they'll run. That's more complicated by the fact that they have a quarterback who played three and a half games last year. And they either ran it with him a dozen times or he threw it 45 times, depending on the game script. And then you've got these question marks
Starting point is 00:07:05 about Miles Sanders' workload and how much they want to use him as even a semi-feature back. And then you've got a rookie-wide receiver. Zach Ertz is still on the roster. That offense as a whole is just a major struggle for me, and I don't have a great deal of confidence in a projection for any of them.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Chris, what was your toughest projection I think it probably has to be New Orleans just because there's such widely disparate potential outcomes for the skilled players on that team based on who the quarterback is and we really don't have any reason to believe that either Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill is more likely than the other one to be the quarterback so I kind of just had to make a copy of the tab in my spreadsheet and just keep two going just so I can at least keep them in my mind what I expect you know if Jameis is the quarterback versus Taysom Hill because you know you're probably looking at a at least a 50 pass attempt if not more difference between the two of them you're probably looking at at least a 50-pass attempt, if not more difference between the two of them. You're probably looking at a different pace of play
Starting point is 00:08:10 depending on who the quarterback is and just how much they're going to use Alvin Kamara based on which guy is under center. It's just figuring out what that's going to look like, figuring out how much it's going to look like the Drew Brees offense is really, really difficult. This is two players in the top
Starting point is 00:08:30 25 or 30 picks in most drafts, so it's really, really important to get it right, and it might be the hardest to get right right now. Jamie, if there's an NFC team that would give you fits in terms of rankings, who would it be? I think they hit on two of them, obviously.
Starting point is 00:08:46 With all the change in Philadelphia with, as he said, the lack of knowledge that we have of what Jalen Hurts will do over a full season with better targets. And then New Orleans with the quarterback situation.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I think there's a third one. I guess it would probably be the two teams that could start rookie quarterbacks you know with chicago and san francisco just because of what could happen with those two teams you know knowing that obviously lance seems to be a much different quarterback than jimmy garoppolo um and and what that offense could look like with just a different passer they're different from you know the cj bethards of the world as well and then obviously if chicago uh does you know start justin fields or at least gives him the start from week two on so matt nagy saves face with
Starting point is 00:09:30 the proclamation that he made of andy dalton's our week one starter um you know how that team will look as well you know so there's uh you know the the rookie quarterbacks probably will change some things clearly with those two rosters yeah and that's that's my next question is how did you go about projecting the teams that could start rookie quarterbacks at some point in the season? Chris, what did you do specifically with Chicago and San Francisco? Do you project them for a combination of quarterbacks, or what do you do there?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Right now I've got fields for Chicago, Garoppolo for San Francisco, but that's another one where at some point pretty soon I'm just going to have to create a separate tab. How about Kyle Shanahan for San Francisco? Did you see the video of him throwing the football on the 4th of July? He still looks good. Looks good. Might have to move him up my rankings.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You mean on Chris's birthday? You mean throwing a football on Chris's birthday? On Chris's birthday, yes. He threw from one rooftop to the other and looked pretty impressive. I think he's cool. I'd like to hang out with him. Oh, if you saw the video,
Starting point is 00:10:32 you'd like to hang out with him. Looked a little toasty and dropped an F-bomb after he hit the throw. Really? But does that add to the hangout appeal for Adam? No. Football coaches, they're just like us. No.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I cannot stand hanging out with inebriated people i hate it oh gosh adam doesn't want to hang out speaking of which we got nado on tuesday um yeah last night i had to tell the story about a different podcast of nado's last day which was last show which was always a fun story um i told the same story and i told them to ask you about that story yeah i actually don't really like telling the story that much because when you can't say what the bleeps were it's not that great of a story uh all right heath what about you how did you project the niners and the bears so far exactly like what chris said um i do and and i i probably lean more towards changing the San Francisco one.
Starting point is 00:11:26 If things go really well for Lance, then I do the Chicago one. I just can't believe they're going to make it very long end of the season starting Andy Dalton over Justin Fields. But yeah, that's the thing for me is like, I think Garoppolo is better than Andy Dalton. And so I think there's a better chance that if Garoppolo starts the season at quarterback, he hangs on to the job than it does Dalton. And the conventional wisdom before the draft was that Justin Fields was more ready
Starting point is 00:11:48 than Trey Lance immediately. Maybe not as much upside, but... Right, and then there's also... We're probably thinking the... The Bears, give them credit, they've had quarterback disaster for a while. They still managed to end up with pretty good teams, but we probably think the Niners
Starting point is 00:12:04 are going to be better than the Bears. It's harder to make a quarterback change when your team is successful, unless you're the Dolphins. So, that's another factor there. Tonight, Tuesday night, 7 p.m. Eastern, come and join us for a live mock draft with Nando DeFino and some others from around the industry.
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Starting point is 00:12:52 and notes. There's been a lot of reports, beat writers coming out with speculation and the Niners backfield's been part of it. There was one article in The Athletic with two different 49ers writers and one of them said Raheem Mostert should be the starting running back when healthy. And then Matt Barrows, another writer for The Athletic,
Starting point is 00:13:11 said they want to run the ball more than 500 times, and he expects Trey Sermon to get a lot of carries. Jamie, did you come up with any big takeaways from what has been written recently in The Athletic about the Niners' backfield? I never anticipated Raheem Mostert not being a starter. Um, you know, I, I think even when they drafted sermon and as good as Jeff Wilson finished last year, that Mostert would be the guy that they would give the first carry to, um, you know, you have to expect that they're going to rotate guys. That's what they've been doing. You have to expect that Mostert might deal with
Starting point is 00:13:39 an injury at some point that's happened to him, uh, more times than not over the course of his career, which has been a problem for him. Um, Some of the stops that, you know, he's been able to stick with some teams, but he's still their most talented running back going into the season. Sermon may prove to be that guy by the end of the year, but the fact that Mostert has fallen to the spot that he's fallen to, you know, as a mid-round pick, you know, I think is going to be one of the bigger steals because if he stays healthy, he's going to be a very productive fantasy option. He's not going to catch the ball very much. We know that. But still, in this offense, how they run the ball,
Starting point is 00:14:11 if the quarterback situation does improve, it could be even better. But this is still one of the best running teams that we're going to see in the league. And Mostert's going to be the first guy to get the crack at the full-time job. And the 500 rush attempts is a lot, but also with the 17 games, just running back rush attempts alone they were on pace for 453 over a 17 game season two years ago and 420 last year so they've always been maybe if they want to run the ball just a little bit more maybe that's a word of caution against the pass catchers because they were already a very run heavy team that's the thing about doing a process like putting together run heavy team that's the thing about doing
Starting point is 00:14:46 a process like putting together projections and that that's one of the things i thought about with this team in particular was it's really excited to get it's really easy to get excited about brandon iuke it's really excited to get really easy to get excited about george kittle less excitement about debo samuel but once you actually start adding everything together, it can be kind of hard to make all those guys work as the value where they're being drafted. Yeah, of course. And especially so if they run the ball more. Especially, and again,
Starting point is 00:15:16 we don't know if this will change, but because nobody ever has had more than six touchdowns. I always forget if it's five or six. I think six touchdown catches under Kyle Shanahan. It's really weird. So, you know. Yeah, Kittles never had more than five. Kittles never had more than five.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I don't know if anyone's had more than five under Shanahan in those four seasons. Definitely not more than six. In San Francisco, yeah. Definitely not more than six. Let's get a couple of Chargers notes, Heath. Dave actually mentioned this when he was talking about Justin Herbert, but we kind of glossed over it. Brandon Staley, the head coach, he says he wants the
Starting point is 00:15:47 offense to run through Justin Herbert. I'm not sure if that's news or not. Why? It better. Well, look, he could say, he could say, well, I want to be a run team. No, he's not. That'd be the stupidest thing to say ever. All right, then it's not news.
Starting point is 00:16:04 That's fine. There's one note I saw. I don't know if we've talked about this on the podcast, but Mike Lombardi being a New Orleans Saints guy, there's been a lot of talk. Joe Lombardi, sorry. That they would want to go with, that they want to run a similar offense
Starting point is 00:16:19 to what the Saints have. I think Jared Cook said it's like 40% of the offense is overlapping with the Saints, and that's more true in the passing game than the running game. So I think that's an interesting thing about the Saints offense and what that could potentially mean, or the Chargers offense, and what that could potentially mean for Keenan Allen, who, just like Michael Thomas, great route runner, excels in the short and intermediate area. He could be in line for maybe his best season ever. Except the problem with that is that they're talking about Mike Williams playing that role. They did say Mike Williams is going to play the X,
Starting point is 00:16:55 but he doesn't run the same types of routes either. It's confusing because I don't think that they'll just have Mike Williams run Michael Thomas routes. That seems like, but... No. I do think Mike Williams should be expected to have a career high on targets from everything they've said. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:13 If you take anything away from the Chargers stuff, there's two things. I don't know if you're going to bring up the running back situation. Yes. The two things. One would be that Mike Williams is probably getting a little too underrated Yes. Yes. To me, he's this year's Devontae Parker, Corey Davis. He's that guy. It's the same setup. Failed first-round pick who hasn't lived up to expectations that could have a career year out the door. For Parker, he stayed in Miami, but it was the same setup.
Starting point is 00:17:54 The running back situation, Adam, if you want to introduce the news. Yeah, Sports Illustrated's Fernando Ramirez thinks Justin Jackson's roster spot could be on the bubble. So the number two running back behind Austin Eckler is fairly valuable and something that you're going to draft late. So I had been thinking it would be Justin Jackson, but now I might have to pivot from that, Jamie. Well, the way that he framed it was he basically took,
Starting point is 00:18:22 the writer took the draft capital point of view that Kelly was a fourth round pick last year, I think. Um, and Larry Roundtree was a sixth round pick this year. And that those two guys are, are, they're more invested in those two guys as opposed to Justin Jackson was the
Starting point is 00:18:36 seventh round pick a few years ago. And I forget the other guys that they listed. Um, so, you know, he did write in the story and the breakdown of it, that Jackson, if he has a strong training camp will easily be on the roster.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Um, but that they'll still be competing for the, those backup touches or those secondary touches behind Austin Eckler. So it's certainly something to keep an eye on, but for, you know, best ball drafts for dynasty moves that you're looking at, Kelly seems to be a little bit more firmer entrenched on the team right now, according to some reports out of Los Angeles. If you're just looking at it from what the writers are saying. Yeah. I think probably their preference would be that they don't have to carry Justin Jackson anymore, but for that to happen, Kelly or round trees going to have to be better than him. And round trees are a little bit
Starting point is 00:19:16 more of a physical guy, you know, so he's, he's a different running back than the other two. Kelly is somebody that can probably play a little bit more of Eckler's role if they needed him to. Obviously, Justin Jackson as well. Obviously, they don't want to have to have that situation arise as they did last year when Eckler missed time. But if it is the Saints offense, if it is what Eckler has been,
Starting point is 00:19:35 Eckler is in line for a monster season just as the pass catcher running back in this offense. And if you look at what he was able to do once he came back from the injury playing with Justin Herbert, it was fantastic. So there's a lot to like about Austin Eckler this season. And finally, Josh Gordon applied for reinstatement. He's now 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:19:51 He did not play in 2020. Does anybody see a reason to put him on a dynasty roster, Josh Gordon, or any roster? If your rosters are deep enough, if you can put him in an IR spot or stash him, it's not a bad flyer to take. But, I mean, we've been down this road how many times since, what, 2012? It's just an unfortunate situation. Hopefully he gets his life together.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Hopefully he gets a chance to play. Obviously, as the sports world is discussing marijuana and suspensions for it and substance abuse, it's an evolving conversation as the track and field world is dealing with. Hopefully, Josh Gordon's life gets back on track. He gets another shot at the NFL and he's able to play. Let's get into our projections. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:20:34 There's so many projections, obviously. They're projecting every relevant player in the NFL. Couldn't go through all of them. I picked one per division. I'm going to start with the NFC North here. Remember, these are just NFC projections. And David Montgomery, who Chris has for 290 carries. Heath has
Starting point is 00:20:50 for just 246. And these are all 17 game projections for everyone, right? Yep. Okay. So 246 is not a lot. And Heath also has him at 4 yards per carry and Chris at 4.3 yards per carry. Really, I mean, look, Chris has David Montgomery projected for 1,246 rushing yards and Chris at 4.3 yards per carry. Really? I mean, look, Chris has David Montgomery
Starting point is 00:21:05 projected for 1,246 rushing yards and Heath at just 986. It's a pretty big difference. Chris, you're more confident in the workload and the production for Montgomery. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, you look at a couple of differences between us. One is I think Montgomery is going to be a little more efficient. Um, that's just you know I'm not sure what the difference is there but I'm regressing him more towards you know the 2020 numbers and league average 2019 he was so inefficient in 2019 that it it feels safe to not entirely write that off because he did do it, but to assume that he's going to be better than that. And then I think the biggest difference is just how we're projecting the split between runs and passes for this team.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I would expect if Justin Fields is the quarterback, they're going to throw a lot less than they would otherwise and certainly than they have in the past couple of years. And maybe that's a faulty assumption i'm totally open to the idea but i haven't fields projected for uh 547 pass attempts he has them for 607 so um you know i think that explains much of the difference yeah and and i, I think Justin Fields is probably the most accurate passer that Matt Nagy's ever had in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:22:32 So, and I don't know, I don't necessarily think they're going to be a good team, so I think game script will lend itself more towards passing, and Nagy has had a problem the last couple of years of saying, yes, I know I need to run the ball more, and then going out and calling 45 pass attempts the next game. So as far as the run-pass splits, I've got them projected for a slightly higher run rate
Starting point is 00:22:57 than they have had in the last three seasons. But that's probably more fields than anything. Right. And I've got Fields and Tariq Cohen and Damian Williams combined for about 165, 170 rush attempts. So that's a main reason why you don't see quite as many for Montgomery. But 246 does seem a little bit low as well. The problem is, where do you have him projected in terms of in your rankings, Chris? He is RB19 in PPR, 17 and 9.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So are we not that far off? I've got him 21 and 22. Yeah, you're the lowest on him, Heath. Jamie, you're kind of in the middle. And I think Dave is slightly the highest. But everybody's got him in the 18 to 22-ish range. I got a good stat for Montgomery if you want, just fantasy points. Of course. No, we're not really interested in those here.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He's played 19 games with Tariq Cohen. Both healthy. He averages just 10.7 PPR points per game. Yeah, but that's pretty much all year one. I can only give you the numbers that I have. I can't tell you what's going to be in year four.
Starting point is 00:24:15 No, but well, yeah. Right, but do you care about that? I guess that's my follow-up. Do you care? Yeah, I mean, I care that he's got somebody that takes him off the field and the thing that really helped him last year i do think that like and it's not i don't know how much different chris and i are on tarik cohen's workload but that will have a huge impact if if tarik cohen is not the same guy and they phase him out and it just goes back to what they did last year with
Starting point is 00:24:45 david montgomery montgomery is going to be a top 12 running back and a great value in drafts if tarik cohen gets the same workload that he did the prior two seasons then i'm not sure david montgomery can deliver top 20 production and it's also you know look we don't know what damian williams is going to do you know what his role is going to be, if he's going to make the team. You know, I mean, he's a year older. He's a year removed from football. He's, you know, going to a coach he's familiar with. He played with Nagy in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But, you know, it's still, can he still be that impact-type player that we saw with the Chiefs, even as a role player? You know, so I think Montgomery, you know, it's projections's, it's a projections aside, it's, it's, you know, where, where he's being drafted, you know? And, and I think that's the tricky part with him because he's going to end up, I think if people just continue to push him down a great, great pick. So give me the rounds that you think he, because right now, I wouldn't take him before round four, but right, right. You know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:42 I've seen him around three, you know, I see people get excited. Like he was, he went in the, in the fishbowl I don't I could tell you what pick he was but you know like the check group was like oh my god great pick I love that and I was like oh okay yeah people split on him
Starting point is 00:25:57 he went with the last pick in round 4 so but he went ahead of Dobbins, Carson, Swift. Or maybe I'm looking at this wrong with the reversal. I'm not sure. Edward Soler. I'm looking at the grid format.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I'm sorry. So that's 64th overall. Yeah, but this is, I really, you can't really take much away from that because tight end premium, it's super flex. So let me tell you where he's going. He went after those guys. That was what the reverse.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Rank these players. This is where he's going with. I think that's a fine spot for him. All right. Hold on. Rank these players, right? Because this is where he's going in NFC ADP, which is half PPR. Miles Sanders, David Montgomery, Chris Carson, Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:26:45 The only one I'd put ahead of him is Carson. Yeah, Carson, Montgomery, Sanders. Jacobs. Jacobs, right? Yeah. Jacobs is fourth for me. Yeah, I think I have it. Carson, Jacobs, Sanders, Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Oh, wow. And then what about ETN? Behind all of them. Okay. All right. One thing I'll point out about Montgomery is the schedule, right? Last year, anyway,
Starting point is 00:27:10 it seemed like almost all of his good matchups were late, and he crushed them. But we always talk about that. Oh, he had this great schedule down the stretch. What we don't talk about is that he had a pretty hard schedule before that. In his first nine games, he faced four teams
Starting point is 00:27:23 that were top five against running backs. He faced five teams that were top five against running backs. He faced five teams that were top eight against running backs. He had a couple of easy matchups and he did pretty well in one of them, but you know, it was so concentrated. The, uh, the schedule was so kind of very hard early and then very easy late. All right, let's go to our next projection here. And that is the Seahawks wide receivers because last year, Tyler Lockett actually had more targets than DK Metcalf. You both have them basically tied in targets. Heath, you have Metcalf at 130. You have them tied 133 a piece. Chris, you have Lockett at 126 and Metcalf at 124. I just did a profile on Metcalf with Jacob Gibbs at Airdon Fantasy Football today in five. And one
Starting point is 00:28:03 thing that he liked was that late in the season, Metcalf, it seemed to Jacob that Metcalf with Jacob Gibbs at Airdon Fantasy Football today in five. And one thing that he liked was that late in the season, Metcalf, it seemed to Jacob that Metcalf started to overtake Lockett in terms of targets. And look, I guess it just depends on where you start your sample. But if you look at the last seven games, including the postseason, Metcalf had 63 targets and Lockett had 48. Metcalf had a 28% target share Lockett 21.5%
Starting point is 00:28:27 target share that's the last six regular season games plus the one playoff game Heath does that matter to you because that's a big thing for Jacob I know do you you've obviously projected them for the same amount of targets so maybe you didn't see anything that leads you to believe that Metcalf is going to overtake Lockett in that
Starting point is 00:28:43 area and like when this is a thing because we have a lot of these. We've talked about it a lot with the rookie running backs. We've talked about it in a variety of ways. When this is a thing, that's usually where I miss. Because for the most part, I generally think what happens over the full season, unless there's something that caused the change that we know about, or there's somebody talking about the change that can confirm it for us.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I lean more heavily on what happened over the full season. A 16 or 17-game season, even if you include the playoffs, a full 20 games is such a small sample size that it gets more dangerous when you start dividing it up, I think. But there are times where that does point to something happening. I just generally would like to have something else to confirm it, some other reason for it happening or some other confirmation from a coach or a player that it did happen. And I would say it really is ultimately in this case about arbitrary endpoints because, yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:38 the last seven games, including the playoffs, Metcalf had a much larger role, but that also includes the fact that Lockett got four targets in week 12 and Metcalf had a much larger role, but that also includes the fact that Lockett got four targets in week 12 and Metcalf got 13. If you start it the week before, it's a lot closer. If you just do the last eight games of the regular season, Lockett had one more target. So unless something happened, like Heath said, unless something happened between week 11 and week 12, there wasn't a buy.
Starting point is 00:30:06 There wasn't a, you know, it's hard to put much stock into it. That's not to say that it doesn't have value, but generally speaking, full season statistics are more predictive than half season statistics. And, um,
Starting point is 00:30:18 I just, I also, there's the fact that, you know, during that final seven game stretch of the regular season, it's not like the passing offense was humming, you know, it's the fact that, you know, during that final seven game stretch of the regular season, it's not like the passing offense was humming. You know, it's not like they made a change in philosophy and all of a sudden things got much better.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And you can point to that and say, well, maybe they'll try to continue working in that way. We don't really have that here. We do have Metcalf being better than Lockett last season, but I just think given the type of players that they are, you know, Metcalf's going to be better, but I think Lockett's still going to get close to the same target share. So that's the one other thing is I did actually start the offseason off,
Starting point is 00:30:55 I think, with Metcalf continuing to grow and taking a little more of the targets from Lockett. I readjusted that with all the talk coming out of Seattle about how much they're trying to get the ball out of Lockett's hands quicker. Because I do think, like, if you look at the types of routes they've succeeded on so far in their careers, Lockett is better on those short area targets, and he gets targeted a lot more on those short area targets. And so I think that there's a chance that the offensive philosophy change could lead to more targets for Lockett. And Jamie, what do you think about the targets Lockett and Metcalf?
Starting point is 00:31:27 I wouldn't be surprised if they're close. But I also think, you know, Heath just brought up where I think a lot of people are leaning is that you're hoping Metcalf takes that leap. You're hoping that the next evolution of DK Metcalf as he enters his third season is that the route tree expands that, you know, what he's been sort of complaining about, you know, secondary to Russell Wilson,
Starting point is 00:31:46 which kind of gets overlooked because he's a wide receiver and not a quarterback is that, you know, he said that the offense got stagnant, you know, and, and I think that's kind of been the underlying theme of what the Seahawks off season has been is that, you know, change of coordinator is going to bring about some, you know, differences in how things are done, that they're not just throwing the ball down the field and there are letting the wide receivers do some different things with the ball. Now, if I'm the Seahawks and I see Tyler Locke and DK Metcalf,
Starting point is 00:32:13 I would want to get the ball in DK Metcalf's hands more because he's just a physical freak. And so the more touches he gets, the better that team will probably be. So I think DK Metcalf has a higher ceiling, so I would hope that the targets are a little bit more slanted in his favor. Uh, 27% to 21, probably not that much. Uh, like you said, Adam down the stretch, but you know, maybe 25, 21, um, you know, something a little bit closer, but still in Metcalf's favor, he deserves the ball more. He shouldn't get the ball more. Um, so, uh, the lock it's ending up, you know, just to be a great value pick, you know, you just
Starting point is 00:32:44 have to deal with some of the highs and lows. Cause that's the player he's ending up you know just to be a great value pick you know you just have to deal with some of the highs and lows because that's the player he's been you know if you just look at the sample sizes as heath alluded to uh over the course of his career you know it's not just last year i mean that's just kind of the player he's been you know he'll have some really hot stretches and he gets cold for a while um you know that could change if if he's running different rounds but um he'll end up being a very good value pick you know around five and beyond yeah mech have is an interesting pick because I'm looking at NFC ADP,
Starting point is 00:33:08 and he's wide receiver six, just after Calvin Ridley and just before Justin Jefferson and A.J. Brown. But in our drafts, I feel like he's more of a third-round pick. I'm just looking at one we did a few weeks ago. He went in the third round. He went after A.J. Brown,
Starting point is 00:33:23 after Michael Thomas, after Keenan Allen, and just before terry mclaurin and it seems like that is sort of a a tier right there ending with metcalf and mclaurin or something like that and then and then after that you've got you know your alan robinson's your bucks wide receivers and whatnot but you know nfc adp has metcalf at the beginning of the tier basically and in our draft seems like he's at the end of the tier. Maybe that's because we're more of a full PPR default and a NFC is half. Yeah. I mean, it's,
Starting point is 00:33:51 it's an interesting range because Metcalf, Jefferson and Brown, they're all very similar, uh, players in terms of, you know, they're, I guess Jefferson and Brown,
Starting point is 00:34:01 you can see being more true alpha wide receivers. Whereas, you know, he, he and I at least think Metcalf's going to split targets more. But they're not going to be the 140, 150 target guys most likely. A little respect to Julio Jones, huh? Sure, sure. Yes, that's fair. But I do still think A.J. Brown's going to get more targets than him.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But yes, that's fair. That's interesting. So you think he's going to get more than Jones? Or you think he's going to get more targets than him. But yes, that's fair. That's interesting. So you think he's going to get more than Jones, or you think he's going to get more than Metcalf, or both? I think Brown's going to get, well, both. Yes. All right, let's finish it with that. First of all, A.J. Brown or D.K. Metcalf,
Starting point is 00:34:35 and who gets more targets? Brown for both, for me. I think Metcalf gets more targets now. Who are you drafting? Metcalf and non-and-half, A.J. Brown and PPR. I think we'll catch a ball more. I'm drafting A.J. Brown over Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I have them almost the same targets, but I do think I have Brown at four more. Okay. Yeah, I think the Tars will be close. All right. We will take a break. When we come back, why does Heath have
Starting point is 00:35:05 Dak Prescott projected for 72 more pass attempts than Chris does? And what the heck's going on with the Tampa Bay passing game? Is it going to be a pretty even split
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Starting point is 00:36:30 That is the letter I. Please send your emails there and your Apple Podcasts. Comments and questions are always appreciated. Leave us a nice five-star review. All right, so Dak Prescott. The pass attempts are big here, and the production is big. I mean, not only does Heath have Dak projected for 72 more pass attempts than Chris does,
Starting point is 00:36:45 he's got him projected for about 800 more yards, only one more touchdown. But this is a big, big difference in projections. Chris, where do you have Dak ranked? He is QB five, six, I think. And Heath, for you? The same. He's seven for me, sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I'm just a little lower. But I only have him five points behind Josh Allen. Okay, I thought you had him fifth. You have him fifth or sixth? I have him ranked fifth, yes. In the projections, he's sixth because Russell Wilson's
Starting point is 00:37:16 right there with him. I see. Okay, well, this is noteworthy, right? It's a big difference here. Yeah, I think probably this would be really easily explained i would guess that i am leaning more heavily on dak prescott's production with kellen moore than and largely ignoring dak prescott's volume without kellen moore chris is that it uh i think that probably explains at least some of it but i think
Starting point is 00:37:46 the bigger difference in looking at it is i have the cowboys projected to run like 1100 plays right around there 1060 like yeah i'm not sure what the exact number is but i think he has them projected to run about 50 more plays than i do so that explains the decent they're all pass plays well i know it's not they're all pass plays like if you look at deck prescott in 20 games with uh kellen moore calling plays his average 40 pass attempts per game right and i've that would be 680 passes over a full season so i've actually drawn him back a little bit from there yeah but like i'm being conservative i think you're you're being aggressive on the plays run um at 11 50 i'm at like 11 20 so there's that gap but i think
Starting point is 00:38:39 the bigger thing is you have them throwing a couple, you know, a little bit more often. I do think the efficiency numbers are, are pretty similar. Um, I have him for the same amount of touchdowns, actually fewer interceptions, um, and a similar yards per attempt.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I think it just, it comes down to pass attempts really. That's the biggest difference. And I could definitely see the scenario where they lead the the nfl and pass attempts and i would imagine you probably have them leading the nfl by a second a significant margin arrow tied for with tampa bay okay um i don't know i could see that happening but i i have him fourth in past attempts so i think maybe it's just you have a little more pass volume overall for the league.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I find it interesting that you're pretty far off on the stats in terms of 800 passing yards, like what, 70 or 80 rushing yards, and no, about 60 rushing yards, one and a half rushing touchdowns, and yet
Starting point is 00:39:44 you're not that far off in the rankings. So what does that mean overall about your quarterback projections? 100% a tier thing. It's a tier discussion for me. Like I said, I've got Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, and Dak Prescott within four and a half fantasy points of each other. The next quarterback after Dak Prescott is like 30 points behind him. I do wonder if maybe, since you seem to be higher on quarterbacks overall, last season was a historic season for passing, but that was at least somewhat heavily weighted towards early in the season
Starting point is 00:40:18 when there were much more high-scoring offensive games. There were much more high-passing yardage games, and it kind of settled down. It might just be that I'm regressing a little more for passing yardage in general as well. But one thing I wanted to look at, Dallas, obviously, Dak Prescott was on pace for, what, 6,000 passing yards last season.
Starting point is 00:40:47 In the four and a half, four and three quarters games he played, let's call it five. He was never going to throw. He was on pace for also like 700 pass attempts or something completely ridiculous. About 50 a game. And they were a very pass heavyheavy team in those five games. But actually, if you look at the situation neutral,
Starting point is 00:41:09 so when the score was seven points either way, between seven points trailing or seven points up, they were 10th in pass rate at 59% in neutral situations, which is, that's high, but it's not necessarily as high as it seems based on the total yardage and past attempts. So, you know, they were playing from behind a lot. Their defense was pretty historically awful in those first five games. So, you know, that, that does weight the numbers a little bit. And it's hard to know what an Andy Dalton led offense can tell us about a Dak
Starting point is 00:41:43 Prescott led offense. I would guess not very much, but I am assuming a little more regression to being a pass heavy team, but not so dramatically, I guess. Yeah, I've got about 56.7% pass
Starting point is 00:41:59 rate. Yeah, I'm at 54. Okay, I just want to clarify, just correct the number that I gave. I said about 50 pass attempts per game. That was in his first four games. If you factor in the fifth game, it's 44 pass attempts per game for Dak Prescott. All right, Jamie, you want to add anything on Dak, or you want to go to the Bucs guys? I mean, the Cowboys are about to be the most overdrafted fantasy players
Starting point is 00:42:19 that we're going to see this year because they're going to be on hard knocks, and they're already very exciting to begin with already. So I think Dak could push himself into the top three if he looks great i think uh zeke is going to push himself back into the top five if he continues to have these wonderful workout videos everybody keeps uh falling in love with the receivers are obviously very exciting to begin with as well hopefully mario cooper's healthy this is going to be great offense you know If that line is right, the Cowboys are going to be
Starting point is 00:42:47 all drafted and the top Cowboys are probably all going to be drafted in the first four rounds. Yeah, and then Gallup, maybe round nine or so. And that brings us to Tampa Bay, another team that should have a great offense, maybe the best in football. Look like the best team in football.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Fair to say. Are they your Super Bowl favorites right now? No. Chiefs. Yeah, I'd still say Chiefs. Yeah. Okay. Well, they're the NFC favorites. Can we say that? Yeah. Vegas has said so as well.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Rematch. Oh, I know what Vegas says. You guys have more credibility than those guys. Okay, anyway, the wide receivers. You guys have more credibility than those guys. Okay, anyway, the wide receivers. I'm going to give Jamie the first word here, but I'll just lay it out. I'll just give targets. Heath has Godwin at 117,
Starting point is 00:43:35 Evans at 123, and Brown at 117. So that's all within six, and Godwin and Brown with the same amount of targets. Chris has Godwin at 114, Evans at 111, and Brown at 97. So you have Brown clearly third. Jamie, do you think it will, you know, what do you think overall? Do you think it'll be close in targets?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Does that mean that the best value is actually going to be Antonio Brown? Give me your quick little breakdown here of the Bucs wide receivers. The best value is Antonio Brown. I mean, because if he plays, you know, the majority of the season, you know, he's, he's clearly got still the talent enough to be one of Tom Brady's go-to guys. He showed that in his, you know, short stint at the end of the regular season before he got hurt going into the playoffs or in the playoffs. Um, this is a great receiving core. I know you factor in the tight ends. It's, it's hard not to spread the ball around. They finally have a pass catching running back that they're going to use that they didn't have last year.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's the same level of what Giovanni Bernard is compared to Leonard Fournette and Ronald Jones. This, this is just a, a, a, a buffet for Tom Brady that he's going to feast on. And,
Starting point is 00:44:37 and it's going to be unfortunate for fantasy managers, I think, because, you know, you're going to fall in love with the names and Mike Evans with his consecutive streak of thousand yards seasons and, and double digit touchdowns that he just had last year. And Godwin with all the hype that he had last year and still showed you some of that promise and obviously Antonio Brown's resume. So value wise, Antonio Brown's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:44:57 But I still think Godwin's the best Bucs wide receiver. I would hope he gets not significantly more targets than the group, but enough that he stays healthy and hopefully gets a big contract that he didn't get this year because of the circumstances. So I still like Godwin the best. I will draft him over Evans. Evans is somebody I tend to avoid just because he's going too high, in my opinion. And Brown is somebody, if I get him in the right spot,
Starting point is 00:45:18 I'll certainly take a chance on him, which is somewhere in the round eight range. You'd rather have him than Michael Gallup? That's a great question. I probably would rather have Antonio Brown. And Evans currently is 41st in ADP and Godwin 46th. So do those... I know you like Godwin better,
Starting point is 00:45:39 but independently, do they feel like decent values? Talking round four here. It's the right spot that they should start to go. And it's format specific Independently, do they feel like decent values? We're talking round four here. It's the right spot that they should start to go. And it's format specific because half and non-PPR, I think Evan's ceiling is higher because of the touchdown potential. Godwin just hasn't shown you that yet. But in PPR, I think Godwin's better.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Half PPR, you can make a, you know, you're splitting hairs, I think, on those two guys. I do think they're both being a little overdrafted, at least based on my projections. I have 21st and 22nd. So, you know, I think they're those two guys. I do think they're both being a little overdrafted, at least based on my projections. I have 21st and 22nd, so I think they're both pretty close. Yeah, Evans is wide receiver 14 and Godwin's 18. Evans is 14 overall wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Right. Yeah. And that's why... I think we're having a little bit of internet issues or just talking over it. I don't know. That was weird. Was that technology or just human error? I thought Chris's internet was going in and out. I thought so.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. I think my internet's jacked. Okay. Go ahead. Heath, you're up. Yes. I have Godwin and Evans both in my bus column just because of that wide receiver 14, wide receiver 18.
Starting point is 00:46:46 I don't, and I don't like it. I wrote about that in the column. It doesn't feel comfortable saying wide receiver is that talented on an offense that we expect to be that good, but it was just so even between them and Brown. And you know Brady's going to throw at least 20% of his passes to running backs, and O.J.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Howard and Rob Gronkowski are going to score a bunch of touchdowns. So I just... Unless Tom Brady is just the best quarterback in fantasy, I think it's going to be a problem. And he was, as I mentioned, the last seven games?
Starting point is 00:47:25 I think it was, yeah, the number three quarterback in fantasy last year. Now, let's take a look at these numbers for all of them in Antonio Brown's first seven games. He played eight games. Mike Evans got hurt very early in the eighth. So we'll eliminate that. That was week 17. Let's just take a look at the splits.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Brady was on pace for 4,674 yards and 37 touchdowns. Evans was on pace for 135 targets. He was by far the best of the group. 135 targets, 1,342 yards, and 14 touchdowns. That was Evans. Godwin was on pace for 80 catches on 110 targets, 978 yards, and 7 touchdowns. That was Evans. Godwin was on pace for 80 catches on 110 targets, 978 yards and seven touchdowns. Brown was on pace for only three fewer targets,
Starting point is 00:48:13 only two fewer catches than Godwin, but almost 200 fewer yards, 789 yards compared to 978, and five touchdowns. So Evans, I mean, Evans was a superstar worthy of a second round pick, basically, in those seven games. Godwin, 80 catches, 978 yards, seven touchdowns. Brown on pace for 78 catches, 789 and five. The numbers, by the way, are a lot better if you eliminate the first game.
Starting point is 00:48:37 They just really, they had a crappy game. They lost 38-3 against New Orleans. And then after that, Tom Brady just went off. It was three or four touchdowns basically every game. But that's how it played out last year. Evans with a big advantage over both of them. And it will be a very
Starting point is 00:48:54 tough choice. Evans was pretty mediocre in the playoffs, or at least super underwhelming. He had 22 targets, 204 yards, so 9.3 yards per target is pretty good, but only 204 yards so 9.3 yards per target's pretty good but only 204 yards in four playoffs i don't know well no didn't he miss the first game or no i always forget i know he got on week godwin i think godwin and brown maybe missed one game brown definitely brown
Starting point is 00:49:15 missed the game but no evans played at least 81 of the snaps he got his usual role in that stretch and even he was healthy though that's the thing even those last seven games i mean it was a lot of touchdowns and it was a couple of really big games but he also had three straight games with 56 yards or fewer um the thing with evans was early in the season especially he looked like a souped up julius thomas or something he was playing like a like a tight end it was a lot of touchdown, but like 50 yards per game early on. And then it took him and Brady some time to get on the same page, but it finally did happen. Brady was really effective on the deep ball late in the season,
Starting point is 00:49:53 and that made Mike Evans much better. If they can carry over that second half momentum into this season, then we're all going to be too low on Mike Evans. We usually are. What's that? We often are. I mean, this guy for people have doubts about him a lot and he just always at the
Starting point is 00:50:13 end of the day, just the numbers are there and he was second in the NFL and green zone targets. And he was like sixth and red zone targets last year. The thing that I struggle with is one, when the games are most important and your production flags like that, what does that tell me? And it doesn't tell me anything bad about Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:50:31 What it tells me is that Tom Brady is such a good quarterback that he's never going to force the ball to one guy. He's going to spread the ball around as much as he can, and that's going to lead to inconsistencies for all three of these guys, I think. Evans and Godwin, they feel like high floor players it doesn't feel like they're gonna bust and and be some huge season ruining disappointment for your team it's just when you're talking about that 14 to 20 range wide receiver there are other guys i prefer who might have a little more room to grow and exceed that price but in terms of players who are most
Starting point is 00:51:06 likely to make a return on investment i think they're right up there in that group which is it's you know what you're looking for when you're building your team i suppose um but yeah well here's one thing kind of at the point where brady's the only player on the bucks offense that i really want for fantasy. Everyone else, I just don't want any part of the running backs unless I can get them dirt cheap. And unless it's Antonio Brown, the price for everyone else just... It feels hard to get a profit on any of those players.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Except for Brown. Yeah, that's right. I wish I didn't hate Antonio Brown so much because I would draft him a lot, but he will never be on any of my fantasy teams. But I would recommend him. Maybe Gio Bernard. I would recommend Antonio Brown to the listeners
Starting point is 00:51:53 because, yeah, he's an injury to Evans or Godwin away from being a great value for getting him in the ninth round or eighth round or whatever it might be. All right. So let's read some emails. Emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This is from Kojo from Ghana.
Starting point is 00:52:13 All right. He says, dear spicy Italian on ciabatta, pulled pork with coleslaw and meatball subs, the indisputable top three sandwiches. No, but I like the passion. In my two leagues... What's that? Like a burger?
Starting point is 00:52:29 No, stop. I'm not falling for it. In my two leagues last year, I drafted McCaffrey at 101 and Sanders at 301 in a 10-team league, and Mixon at 112 and Drake at 201
Starting point is 00:52:43 in a 12-team team league half PPR Yahoo gave both of my drafts A's but I'm sure as you can imagine both seasons ended up being trash with McCaffrey and Sanders in one league and Mixon and Drake in the other can you talk me down off the 0RB ledge for this year Jamie can you talk
Starting point is 00:52:59 Kojo down from the 0RB ledge so he wants to go a different route. Well, he's thinking about going zero RB because running back, running back worked out so poorly for him last year. Yeah. I mean, look, injuries played a part,
Starting point is 00:53:14 obviously, in the McCaffrey one. What was it? Drake and who? McCaffrey and Sanders in one league and Mixon and Drake in the other. Yeah, so another injury situation with Mixon. I think that what we're going to see a lot of is, you know, I don't know if you want to call it modified zero RB or just, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:29 just taking one running back early, but that seems to be the safest route because if you can get one of your top 10, top 12, top 15 running backs in the first two rounds, whoever that might be for you, whoever ranking, whatever rank list you follow, and then you just start, you just start getting your wide receivers or tight ends or quarterbacks somewhere in rounds one through five. That seems to be a safer approach if you want to avoid the volatility of what the running backs have been.
Starting point is 00:53:55 So pick the running back you like, depending on what draft choice you're at, and then just take some of those high end wide receivers or tight end or quarterback. Yeah. Kojo, I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend. This is from Rufus. You can find a better sandwich. Every year we draw names and the order of names is in the order in which we get to decide our draft position. It is non PPR, six points for all touchdowns. What do you think is the ideal draft position in a 12 teamteam non-PPR league? I mean, historically, it's first overall.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Except for last year. Yeah, historically, first overall tends to have the highest win rate. And I think we all think Christian McCaffrey is significantly better than everyone else. So, I would say 1-1. Yeah. It's boring it's not it's it's the chalk take but sometimes you don't have to over complicate things when you got a player like christian mccaffrey at one one i agree with chris anybody disagree i'd probably go three just because you're gonna get one of cook or henry which is still pretty good. And then you get an earlier pick before one.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah. Does that matter? Do you need... Because you also get an earlier third round pick, obviously, if you have the 1-1 instead of 1-3. And actually, I bring that up because he's interested in getting either Waller or Kittle in round three.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And those two picks might make a difference in that regard. Waller or Kittle might be available at 3 those two picks might make a difference in that regard. You know, Waller or Kittle might be available at 3-1 and not 3-3. That's obviously just speculation. You never know. But that's, you know, he wants to try to get Waller or Kittle in round three. So with that as a consideration, Jamie, would you stick with the third pick or would you go with the first?
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah, just because non-PPR, I want to get, you know, more running back capital and you have a better chance of still getting a top 15 caliber running back in the 20th, 21st pick, 22nd pick, whatever it is. As opposed
Starting point is 00:55:56 to hoping that I get one of the tight ends in the early part of round three. All right. Next email is from Carl from a Canadian city south of Whistler. All right. Next email is from... No. Oh, Carl from a Canadian city south of Whistler. We'll ask Dave at a later date. Dear Ricky, Ronnie...
Starting point is 00:56:12 Will you actually ask Dave? No. Ricky, Ronnie, Lamar, and Reggie. Dolphins running backs, right? Yep. Yeah. 12-team standards. They had Reggie.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I don't even remember. I don't remember Reggie pushing on the Dolphins. 2,000-yard seasons for the Dolphins, I think. What? Why do I not remember that? That's strange.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah, Reggie was good. Ricky was a monster at one point. Yeah. Yeah, he was. He was great for them. Ronnie and Ricky was the Wildcat.
Starting point is 00:56:42 12-team standards scoring keeper league. We can keep three players. Lamar went to a crappy school. Crappy school. Did you see this? All this endorsement stuff? It's awesome. It's weird. It's so awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Maybe I'm showing my age. I thought it was Lamar Smith. No, it's Lamar Miller. Lamar Smith is... I covered the Dolphins-Colts playoff game. One of the loudest stadiums I've ever seen. Certainly in South Florida. 44 carries or something in that game?
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah, he was just a beast in overtime. 12-team standard scoring keeper league. We can keep three players max for three years max. So help me pick three. I have the 11th pick. McCaffrey in the first, standard scoring. Tyreek Hill in the second.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Waller in the third. Diggs in the fifth. Robert Woods in the 12th. And Dak in the 14th. He needs just three of them. He can keep them for up to three years. McCaffrey in the first. Tyreek Hill in the second.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Waller in the third. Diggs in the fifth. Woods in the 12elfth, and Prescott in the fourteenth. And remember, it is non-PPR. I feel like we just dodged a terrible Azar take on the college football. I'll get back to it. I'd like to circle back around that. No problem. McCaffrey, Diggs,
Starting point is 00:58:00 and Dak for me. McCaffrey, Diggs, and Dak. So he keeps him at a first-round cost for three years in a row? McCaffrey, yeah. Let's pick 11 this year. True. And Diggs in the fifth and Prescott in the 14th. Yeah, no, I was just trying to get the circumstances.
Starting point is 00:58:17 But it's at that value for three years in a row. I guess so. Yeah, I think it's McCaffrey, Diggs, and Dak. I would go McCaffrey, Waller, and Diggs. Okay. No, I think it's going to be very anti-competitive. I think it's going to be... Because if there's one thing college football is known for...
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah, it's going to be even worse. ...it's the enormous parity. It's going to be even worse. Oh, no, we're going to have the same two teams in the national championship every year? It's going to be even worse. Adam, it to have the same two teams in the national championship every year? It's going to be even worse. Adam, it's a little hypocritical for a UM fan to get mad
Starting point is 00:58:51 about teams being uber competitive while compensating players. I was going to say that. Ridiculous. UM is going to benefit from this. They just had a company sign on that's going to give... Adam, we've been hearing UM was going to be good for like 20 years.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I didn't say they were going to be good. I said they're going to benefit from this. They've been paying their players for longer than that. Yeah. Actually, they lose players to SEC programs that pay more. That's what they say. That's what a reporter says. American Top Teams plans $540,000
Starting point is 00:59:25 NIL commitment to Miami. So they are willing to give every player at Miami the same amount of money, and if every player opts in, that will cost $500,000. That will cost $500,000. No, this is bad. I don't like this. This is bad for the competitiveness. No, I'm happy that the players are getting paid. I don't care if they
Starting point is 00:59:40 get paid, but they've got to figure out a way to do it so that it doesn't just make the rich get... Stop talking right now. that it doesn't just make the rich get... Stop talking right now. That it just doesn't make the rich get richer. This is going to be anti-competitive for college football. I don't mean that way. I mean
Starting point is 00:59:56 that the schools, the best schools are going to be the best at this. And they're going to say, come to Alabama. We've got all these endorsements lined up. Of course that's going to happen. This is not fair for FIU. I don't think you have to worry about you.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I'm dominating anyone. It's okay. It's very frustrating to have conversations with you when you say things like that. All right, here we go. From, where's the, Tucker from Rhode Island. Dear Sean, Roger, Timothy, and Pierce. And those are James Bonds.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I'm in a seven-year running 10-team, two-quarterback league with three wide receivers and three flex. I have McCaffrey. I pick 101. I'm going to take McCaffrey. I can keep up to four players. I'm going to keep Diggs in the third. So give me three more.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Let's see. Are there any other... Okay. Here we go. Well, he's giving us all of his keepers. He needs three more. He's going to keep Jefferson and Herbert in the ninth and tenth rounds. Alright. So he needs one more. Keenan Allen in the second round Jefferson and Herbert in the ninth and tenth rounds. All right. So he needs one more.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Keenan Allen in the second round. David Montgomery in the fourth. Latavius in the eighth. Goddard in the tenth. And Connor in the thirteenth. Mayfield in the sixteenth. It is a 2QB league. So that's interesting. Mayfield.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah. It's Mayfield. Yeah, I guess. That's a free spot. Mayfield it is. Good. I don't feel like disagreeing with people anymore. We're out of here. Thanks for listening, everybody. We got AFC projections coming up later. We're recording it later today, but you will hear it
Starting point is 01:01:42 on Wednesday. We have a live listener mock draft that you will hear on Thursday. It's going to be a fun week here on Fantasy Football today. We'll talk to you soon. Have a good one.

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