Fantasy Football Today - Most Interesting NFC Projections! (07/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: July 6, 2021We'll run through some of the most scintillating projections this week, starting in the NFC. For Heath and Chris, what were some of the most challenging projections (5:30)? How did they approach the t...eams with rookie QBs (8:40)? And we've got news and notes (12:00) including reports on the 49ers backfield ... Getting into some projections, we look at David Montgomery's carries and efficiency (19:50) and how we see the targets for DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett being distributed (26:40) ... Heath and Chris are far apart on Dak Prescott's pass attempts (35:00) but are they on the same page in their projections for the Bucs passing game (42:00)? ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben.
All right, what's going on?
Welcome back from a holiday weekend.
Big week coming up.
We got two projection shows.
We got a live mock draft with listeners.
And as always, we're going to be reading your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. It is Tuesday, or late morning, I guess.
10.30 a.m. Eastern here.
I'm Adam Azer with three
analysts today. Heath Cummings and
Chris Towers. We're going to be looking at their projections.
Jamie Eisenberg is going to be
giving his thoughts as well.
Gotta wish Chris Towers a happy
birthday, though. Happy belated, Chris.
Sorry I didn't text
you on your birthday at midnight.
No, it's okay.
I was deep into a five-hour karaoke session.
Really?
I set off some fireworks to celebrate.
You know, I was about nine before I figured out that everyone was lying when they said all the fireworks were for me.
But I appreciate you continuing the tradition.
Thank you. It took a really long
time for you to figure that out. Chris's birthday is July 4th.
I was a really gullible kid, okay?
And Jamie's here as well.
Good morning, Jamie.
Good morning. Happy birthday, Chris.
And happy 4th of July
to everyone out there, even though it's July 6th.
Hope it was a great, great weekend. I made
awful cheeseburgers, but
other than that, everything was great.
Scott Fishbowl is underway.
Who has made more than three picks?
I'm in round six.
No way.
Turbo Scott Fishbowl.
I have made one pick.
One pick?
Three for me.
Heath, how about you?
Two.
Two?
All right.
All right, Jamie, what do you got so far?
What pick did you have?
I had the fifth pick.
So I started with Kelsey and Tannehill before the reversal.
I was thrilled to get Kelsey at five.
Kelsey five.
Wow.
Yeah.
We started three quarterbacks in a row.
It went Mahomes, Allen, Kyler with our first three picks.
The great Eric Young, who, as I told you on the live show,
when we did the Scott Fishball mock draft,
picking in front of me, he got McCaffrey at four.
So he didn't get Derrick Henry as he did in our mock draft.
And then I took Kelsey.
So I took Tannehill to screw him over because I know he wanted Tannehill.
He was the last of my top ten quarterbacks available.
So quarterbacks went really flying off the board there.
And then I went – I've taken three running backs in a row. So I went Kelsey, Tannehill, Akers, Dobbins, Gaskin.
Kelsey, Tannehill, Akers.
Oh, a lot of running backs there.
Okay.
So this is a super flex league.
So QBs go really early.
It's also tight end premium.
So tight ends get a huge boost.
That's why Kelsey is often going to be a top three pick.
He was in my league and he was in Chris's league.
I think I saw a few leagues he went one.
Yep, I could see it.
No, I took him two.
Yep.
Okay, so Chris, what's your team so far?
Travis Kelsey is number two.
We've already had someone removed from our league
for timing out on their first pick.
It has not gone well in the Beyonce division so far.
Oh, man.
Ed, Heath, how about you?
I had the 10th pick, which was not very much fun for the first two picks,
but it's about ready to be more fun.
I took Dak Prescott in the first as the sixth quarterback off the board,
and then by far my most controversial pick,
probably the whole draft.
I took Aaron Jones with the third pick in the second round ahead of Saquon
Barkley and Ezekiel Elliott and Jonathan Taylor.
Wow.
And I had the fourth pick and Chris Heath was saying,
it's about to get a lot more fun for him with the 10th pick.
That's because there's a third round reversal.
It does.
It's does not snake in the third round. It snakes after that. But basically if you have the, let him with the 10th pick that's because there's a third round reversal it does it does not snake in the third round it snakes after that but basically if you have the
let's say the 12th pick you have 12 13 and then 25. so uh it's great to be at the end yeah but
it's really great to be it because there's so many good players still the quarterback's cool early
right right and i had the fourth pick i took dalvin cook over darren waller which is a very
tough decision because waller outscored Cook in this format last year.
But I took Cook, and then I took Brady,
and then I got Mark Andrews with the 33rd pick,
which I was pretty happy about.
Yeah.
How high did Pitts go on yours?
I think he's still on the board.
No, no, I'm sorry.
He went three picks before Andrews.
He went before picks.
He went 29th.
And then Goddard two picks later.
He went 14th in mine.
It's crazy.
I agree with you.
No people are in love.
Three picks after George Kittle.
It's funny, Adam.
The guy who has the fourth pick in my league
also started with Dalvin Cook and Tom Brady.
Really?
All right. I'm pretty happy about it cook and Tom Brady. Really?
All right. I'm pretty happy about it.
I love Brady and we'll tell you why we're going to do a Tampa Bay
Buccaneers passing game projections.
Um,
first some intro questions about your projections,
Heath and Chris,
both doing them this year.
And what was your toughest projection?
Heath,
we'll start with you,
your toughest projection.
And we're just,
if you could stick with the NFC,
this is our NFC show tomorrow. AFC. Just you. Your toughest projection. If you could, stick with the NFC. This is our NFC show. Tomorrow, AFC.
Just the entire
Philadelphia Eagles offense.
Everything about them. You've got a couple
of coaches,
head coach and offensive coordinator,
who come from systems in Indianapolis
and with the Chargers, where the head
coach, Frank Reich and Anthony Lynn,
if they don't call
the plays, they have a very heavy influence on that.
So I don't know that we have a great idea of exactly what type of offense they'll run.
That's more complicated by the fact that they have a quarterback who played three and a half games last year.
And they either ran it with him a dozen times or he threw it 45 times, depending on the game script. And then you've got these question marks
about Miles Sanders' workload
and how much they want to use him
as even a semi-feature back.
And then you've got a rookie-wide receiver.
Zach Ertz is still on the roster.
That offense as a whole is just a major struggle for me,
and I don't have a great deal of confidence
in a projection for any of them.
Chris, what was your toughest projection I think it probably has to be New Orleans just because there's such widely disparate potential outcomes for the skilled players on that team based on who
the quarterback is and we really don't have any reason to believe that either Jameis Winston or
Taysom Hill is more likely than the other one to
be the quarterback so I kind of just had to make a copy of the tab in my spreadsheet and just keep
two going just so I can at least keep them in my mind what I expect you know if Jameis is the
quarterback versus Taysom Hill because you know you're probably looking at a at least a 50 pass
attempt if not more difference between the two of them you're probably looking at at least a 50-pass attempt, if not more difference between the two of them.
You're probably looking at a different pace of play
depending on who the quarterback is
and just how much they're going to use Alvin Kamara
based on which guy is under center.
It's just figuring out what that's going to look like,
figuring out how much it's going to look like the Drew Brees offense
is really, really difficult.
This is
two players in the top
25 or 30 picks in most drafts,
so it's really, really important to get it
right, and it might be the hardest
to get right right now.
Jamie, if there's an NFC team that would give you
fits in terms of rankings, who would it be?
I think they
hit on two of them, obviously.
With all the
change in Philadelphia with, as
he said, the lack
of
knowledge that we have of what Jalen
Hurts will do over a full season with better targets.
And then New Orleans with the quarterback
situation.
I think there's a third one.
I guess it would probably be the two
teams that could start rookie quarterbacks you know with chicago and san francisco just because
of what could happen with those two teams you know knowing that obviously lance seems to be a
much different quarterback than jimmy garoppolo um and and what that offense could look like with
just a different passer they're different from you know the cj bethards of the world as well
and then obviously if chicago uh does you know start
justin fields or at least gives him the start from week two on so matt nagy saves face with
the proclamation that he made of andy dalton's our week one starter um you know how that team
will look as well you know so there's uh you know the the rookie quarterbacks probably will change
some things clearly with those two rosters yeah and that's that's my next question is how did you
go about projecting the teams
that could start rookie quarterbacks at some point in the season?
Chris, what did you do specifically with Chicago and San Francisco?
Do you project them for a combination of quarterbacks,
or what do you do there?
Right now I've got fields for Chicago, Garoppolo for San Francisco,
but that's another one where
at some point pretty soon I'm just going to have to create
a separate tab.
How about Kyle Shanahan for San Francisco? Did you see the video of him
throwing the football on the 4th of July?
He still looks good. Looks good.
Might have to move him up my rankings.
You mean on Chris's birthday?
You mean throwing a football on Chris's birthday?
On Chris's birthday, yes. He threw
from one rooftop to the other
and looked pretty impressive.
I think he's cool.
I'd like to hang out with him.
Oh, if you saw the video,
you'd like to hang out with him.
Looked a little toasty
and dropped an F-bomb after he hit the throw.
Really?
But does that add to the hangout appeal for Adam?
No.
Football coaches, they're just like us.
No.
I cannot stand hanging out with
inebriated people i hate it oh gosh adam doesn't want to hang out speaking of which we got nado on
tuesday um yeah last night i had to tell the story about a different podcast of nado's last day
which was last show which was always a fun story um i told the same story and i told them to ask you
about that story yeah i actually don't really like telling the story that much because when you can't
say what the bleeps were it's not that great of a story uh all right heath what about you how did
you project the niners and the bears so far exactly like what chris said um i do and and i i
probably lean more towards changing the San Francisco one.
If things go really well for Lance, then I do the Chicago one.
I just can't believe they're going to make it very long end of the season starting Andy
Dalton over Justin Fields.
But yeah, that's the thing for me is like, I think Garoppolo is better than Andy Dalton.
And so I think there's a better chance that if Garoppolo starts the season at quarterback,
he hangs on to the job than it does Dalton.
And the conventional wisdom before the draft
was that Justin Fields was more ready
than Trey Lance immediately.
Maybe not as much upside, but...
Right, and then there's also...
We're probably thinking the...
The Bears, give them credit,
they've had quarterback disaster for a while.
They still managed to end up with pretty good teams,
but we probably think the Niners
are going to be better than the Bears.
It's harder to make a quarterback change when your team is
successful, unless you're the Dolphins.
So, that's another factor
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Alright, we'll see you there. Some quick news
and notes. There's been
a lot of reports, beat writers coming out
with speculation and the Niners
backfield's been part of it.
There was one article in The Athletic
with two different 49ers writers and one of them
said Raheem Mostert should be the starting running back when healthy.
And then Matt Barrows, another writer for The Athletic,
said they want to run the ball more than 500 times,
and he expects Trey Sermon to get a lot of carries.
Jamie, did you come up with any big takeaways
from what has been written recently in The Athletic about the Niners' backfield?
I never anticipated Raheem Mostert not being a starter. Um, you know, I, I think even when
they drafted sermon and as good as Jeff Wilson finished last year, that Mostert would be the
guy that they would give the first carry to, um, you know, you have to expect that they're going
to rotate guys. That's what they've been doing. You have to expect that Mostert might deal with
an injury at some point that's happened to him, uh, more times than not over the course of his
career, which has been a problem for him. Um, Some of the stops that, you know, he's been able to stick with some teams,
but he's still their most talented running back going into the season. Sermon may prove to be
that guy by the end of the year, but the fact that Mostert has fallen to the spot that he's
fallen to, you know, as a mid-round pick, you know, I think is going to be one of the bigger
steals because if he stays healthy, he's going to be a very productive fantasy option.
He's not going to catch the ball very much. We know that.
But still, in this offense, how they run the ball,
if the quarterback situation does improve, it could be even better.
But this is still one of the best running teams that we're going to see in the league.
And Mostert's going to be the first guy to get the crack at the full-time job.
And the 500 rush attempts is a lot, but also with the 17 games,
just running back rush attempts alone they were on pace for 453 over a 17 game season two years ago and 420 last year
so they've always been maybe if they want to run the ball just a little bit more maybe that's a
word of caution against the pass catchers because they were already a very run heavy team that's the
thing about doing a process like putting together run heavy team that's the thing about doing
a process like putting together projections and that that's one of the things i thought about
with this team in particular was it's really excited to get it's really easy to get excited
about brandon iuke it's really excited to get really easy to get excited about george kittle
less excitement about debo samuel but once you actually start adding everything together,
it can be kind of hard to make all those guys work as the value where they're being drafted.
Yeah, of course.
And especially so if they run the ball more.
Especially, and again,
we don't know if this will change,
but because nobody ever has had more than six touchdowns.
I always forget if it's five or six.
I think six touchdown catches under Kyle Shanahan.
It's really weird.
So, you know.
Yeah, Kittles never had more than five.
Kittles never had more than five.
I don't know if anyone's had more than five under Shanahan in those four seasons.
Definitely not more than six.
In San Francisco, yeah.
Definitely not more than six.
Let's get a couple of Chargers notes, Heath.
Dave actually mentioned this when he was talking about Justin Herbert,
but we kind of glossed over it.
Brandon Staley, the head coach, he says he wants the
offense to run through Justin Herbert.
I'm not sure if that's news or not.
Why? It better.
Well, look, he could say,
he could say, well, I want to be a run team.
No, he's not.
That'd be the stupidest thing to say ever.
All right, then it's not news.
That's fine.
There's one note I saw.
I don't know if we've talked about this on the podcast,
but Mike Lombardi being a New Orleans Saints guy,
there's been a lot of talk.
Joe Lombardi, sorry.
That they would want to go with,
that they want to run a similar offense
to what the Saints have.
I think Jared Cook said it's like 40% of the offense
is overlapping with the Saints, and that's more true in the passing game than the running game.
So I think that's an interesting thing about the Saints offense and what that could potentially mean, or the Chargers offense, and what that could potentially mean for Keenan Allen, who, just like Michael Thomas, great route runner, excels in the short and intermediate area.
He could be in line for maybe his best season ever.
Except the problem with that is that they're talking about
Mike Williams playing that role.
They did say Mike Williams is going to play the X,
but he doesn't run the same types of routes either.
It's confusing because I don't think that they'll just have
Mike Williams run Michael Thomas routes.
That seems like, but...
No.
I do think Mike Williams should be expected to have a career high on targets
from everything they've said.
Right.
If you take anything away from the Chargers stuff,
there's two things.
I don't know if you're going to bring up the running back situation.
Yes.
The two things.
One would be that Mike Williams is probably getting a little too underrated Yes. Yes. To me, he's this year's Devontae Parker, Corey Davis. He's that guy. It's the same setup. Failed first-round pick who hasn't lived up to expectations
that could have a career year out the door.
For Parker, he stayed in Miami, but it was the same setup.
The running back situation, Adam, if you want to introduce the news.
Yeah, Sports Illustrated's Fernando Ramirez thinks Justin Jackson's
roster spot could be on the bubble.
So the number two running back behind Austin Eckler is fairly valuable
and something that you're going to draft late.
So I had been thinking it would be Justin Jackson,
but now I might have to pivot from that, Jamie.
Well, the way that he framed it was he basically took,
the writer took the draft capital point of view that Kelly was a fourth round
pick last year,
I think.
Um,
and Larry Roundtree was a sixth round pick this year.
And that those two guys are,
are,
they're more invested in those two guys as opposed to Justin Jackson was the
seventh round pick a few years ago.
And I forget the other guys that they listed.
Um,
so,
you know,
he did write in the story and the breakdown of it,
that Jackson,
if he has a strong training camp will easily be on the roster.
Um, but that they'll still be competing for the, those backup touches or those secondary
touches behind Austin Eckler.
So it's certainly something to keep an eye on, but for, you know, best ball drafts for
dynasty moves that you're looking at, Kelly seems to be a little bit more firmer entrenched
on the team right now, according to some reports out of Los Angeles.
If you're just looking at it from what the writers are saying. Yeah. I think probably
their preference would be that they don't have to carry Justin Jackson anymore, but for that to
happen, Kelly or round trees going to have to be better than him. And round trees are a little bit
more of a physical guy, you know, so he's, he's a different running back than the other two.
Kelly is somebody that can probably play a little bit more of Eckler's role if they needed him to.
Obviously, Justin Jackson as well.
Obviously, they don't want to have to have
that situation arise as they did last year
when Eckler missed time.
But if it is the Saints offense,
if it is what Eckler has been,
Eckler is in line for a monster season
just as the pass catcher running back in this offense.
And if you look at what he was able to do
once he came back from the injury
playing with Justin Herbert, it was fantastic.
So there's a lot to like about Austin Eckler this season.
And finally, Josh Gordon applied for reinstatement.
He's now 30 years old.
He did not play in 2020.
Does anybody see a reason to put him on a dynasty roster,
Josh Gordon, or any roster?
If your rosters are deep enough, if you can put him in an IR spot
or stash him, it's not a bad flyer to take.
But, I mean, we've been down this road how many times since, what, 2012?
It's just an unfortunate situation.
Hopefully he gets his life together.
Hopefully he gets a chance to play.
Obviously, as the sports world is discussing marijuana and suspensions for it
and substance abuse, it's an evolving conversation
as the track and field world is dealing with.
Hopefully, Josh Gordon's life
gets back on track. He gets another shot at the NFL and he's
able to play.
Let's get into our projections. Here we go.
There's so many projections, obviously.
They're projecting every relevant player in the
NFL. Couldn't go through all of them. I picked one
per division. I'm going to start with the
NFC North here.
Remember, these are just NFC projections. And David
Montgomery, who Chris has
for 290 carries. Heath has
for just 246. And these
are all 17 game projections
for everyone, right? Yep.
Okay. So 246 is not
a lot. And Heath also has him at
4 yards per carry and Chris at 4.3
yards per carry. Really, I mean, look, Chris
has David Montgomery projected for 1,246 rushing yards and Chris at 4.3 yards per carry. Really? I mean, look, Chris has David Montgomery
projected for 1,246 rushing yards and Heath at just 986. It's a pretty big difference.
Chris, you're more confident in the workload and the production for Montgomery.
Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, you look at a couple of differences between us. One is I think
Montgomery is going to be a little more efficient. Um, that's just you know I'm not sure what the difference is there but I'm regressing him
more towards you know the 2020 numbers and league average 2019 he was so inefficient in 2019 that it
it feels safe to not entirely write that off because he did do it, but to assume that he's going to be better than that.
And then I think the biggest difference is just how we're projecting
the split between runs and passes for this team.
I would expect if Justin Fields is the quarterback,
they're going to throw a lot less than they would otherwise
and certainly than they have in the past couple of years.
And maybe that's a faulty assumption i'm totally open to the idea but i haven't fields projected for
uh 547 pass attempts he has them for 607 so um you know i think that explains much of the difference
yeah and and i, I think Justin Fields
is probably the most accurate passer
that Matt Nagy's ever had in Chicago.
So, and I don't know,
I don't necessarily think they're going to be a good team,
so I think game script will lend itself more towards passing,
and Nagy has had a problem the last couple of years of saying,
yes, I know I need to run the ball more,
and then going out and calling 45 pass attempts the next game.
So as far as the run-pass splits,
I've got them projected for a slightly higher run rate
than they have had in the last three seasons.
But that's probably more fields than anything.
Right.
And I've got Fields and Tariq Cohen and Damian Williams combined for about 165, 170 rush attempts.
So that's a main reason why you don't see quite as many for Montgomery.
But 246 does seem a little bit low as well.
The problem is, where do you have him projected in terms of in your rankings, Chris?
He is RB19 in PPR, 17 and 9.
So are we not that far off?
I've got him 21 and 22.
Yeah, you're the lowest on him, Heath.
Jamie, you're kind of in the middle.
And I think Dave is slightly the highest. But everybody's got him in the 18 to 22-ish range.
I got a good stat for Montgomery if you want, just fantasy points.
Of course.
No, we're not really interested in those here.
He's played 19 games with Tariq Cohen.
Both healthy.
He averages just 10.7 PPR points per game.
Yeah, but that's pretty much all
year one.
I can only
give you the numbers that I have.
I can't tell you what's going to be in year four.
No, but well, yeah.
Right, but do you care about that? I guess that's my
follow-up. Do you care? Yeah, I mean, I care
that he's got somebody that takes
him off the field and the thing that really helped him last year i do think that like and it's not i don't know
how much different chris and i are on tarik cohen's workload but that will have a huge impact
if if tarik cohen is not the same guy and they phase him out and it just goes back to what they
did last year with
david montgomery montgomery is going to be a top 12 running back and a great value in drafts if
tarik cohen gets the same workload that he did the prior two seasons then i'm not sure david
montgomery can deliver top 20 production and it's also you know look we don't know what damian
williams is going to do you know what his role is going to be, if he's going to make the team.
You know, I mean, he's a year older.
He's a year removed from football.
He's, you know, going to a coach he's familiar with.
He played with Nagy in Kansas City.
But, you know, it's still, can he still be that impact-type player
that we saw with the Chiefs, even as a role player?
You know, so I think Montgomery, you know, it's projections's, it's a projections aside, it's, it's, you know, where,
where he's being drafted, you know? And,
and I think that's the tricky part with him because he's going to end up,
I think if people just continue to push him down a great, great pick.
So give me the rounds that you think he, because right now,
I wouldn't take him before round four, but right, right. You know, I mean,
I've seen him around three, you know, I see people get excited. Like he was,
he went in the, in the fishbowl
I don't I could tell you what pick
he was but you know like the
check group was like oh my god
great pick I love that and I was like oh okay
yeah people
split on him
he went with the
last pick in round
4 so
but he went ahead of Dobbins, Carson, Swift.
Or maybe I'm looking at this wrong with the reversal.
I'm not sure.
Edward Soler.
I'm looking at the grid format.
I'm sorry.
So that's 64th overall.
Yeah, but this is, I really,
you can't really take much away from that
because tight end premium, it's super flex.
So let me tell you where he's going.
He went after those guys.
That was what the reverse.
Rank these players.
This is where he's going with.
I think that's a fine spot for him.
All right.
Hold on.
Rank these players, right?
Because this is where he's going in NFC ADP, which is half PPR.
Miles Sanders, David Montgomery, Chris Carson, Josh Jacobs.
The only one I'd put ahead of him is Carson.
Yeah, Carson, Montgomery, Sanders.
Jacobs.
Jacobs, right?
Yeah.
Jacobs is fourth for me.
Yeah, I think I have it.
Carson, Jacobs, Sanders, Montgomery.
Oh, wow.
And then what about ETN?
Behind all of them.
Okay.
All right.
One thing I'll point out about Montgomery
is the schedule, right?
Last year, anyway,
it seemed like almost all of his good matchups were late,
and he crushed them.
But we always talk about that.
Oh, he had this great schedule down the stretch.
What we don't talk about
is that he had a pretty hard schedule before that.
In his first nine games,
he faced four teams
that were top five against running backs.
He faced five teams that were top five against running backs. He faced
five teams that were top eight against running backs. He had a couple of easy matchups and he
did pretty well in one of them, but you know, it was so concentrated. The, uh, the schedule was so
kind of very hard early and then very easy late. All right, let's go to our next projection here.
And that is the Seahawks wide receivers because last year, Tyler Lockett actually had more targets than DK Metcalf. You both have them basically tied in targets. Heath, you have Metcalf
at 130. You have them tied 133 a piece. Chris, you have Lockett at 126 and Metcalf at 124.
I just did a profile on Metcalf with Jacob Gibbs at Airdon Fantasy Football today in five. And one
thing that he liked was that late in the season, Metcalf, it seemed to Jacob that Metcalf with Jacob Gibbs at Airdon Fantasy Football today in five. And one thing that he liked was that late in the season,
Metcalf, it seemed to Jacob that Metcalf started to overtake Lockett
in terms of targets.
And look, I guess it just depends on where you start your sample.
But if you look at the last seven games, including the postseason,
Metcalf had 63 targets and Lockett had 48.
Metcalf had a 28%
target share Lockett 21.5%
target share that's the last
six regular season games plus the one
playoff game
Heath does that matter to you because that's a big
thing for Jacob I know do you you've
obviously projected them for the same amount of targets
so maybe you didn't see anything that leads you to believe that
Metcalf is going to overtake Lockett in that
area and like
when this is a thing because we have a lot of these.
We've talked about it a lot with the rookie running backs.
We've talked about it in a variety of ways.
When this is a thing, that's usually where I miss.
Because for the most part, I generally think what happens over the full season,
unless there's something that caused the change that we know about,
or there's somebody talking about the change that can confirm it for us.
I lean more heavily on what happened over the full season. A 16 or 17-game season,
even if you include the playoffs, a full 20 games is such a small sample size that it gets more
dangerous when you start dividing it up, I think. But there are times where that does point to
something happening. I just generally would like to have something else to confirm it,
some other reason for it happening or some other confirmation from a coach or a player
that it did happen.
And I would say it really is ultimately in this case
about arbitrary endpoints because, yeah,
the last seven games, including the playoffs,
Metcalf had a much larger role,
but that also includes the fact that Lockett got four targets in week 12 and Metcalf had a much larger role, but that also includes the fact that Lockett got four targets
in week 12 and Metcalf got 13.
If you start it the week before, it's a lot closer.
If you just do the last eight games of the regular season, Lockett had one more target.
So unless something happened, like Heath said, unless something happened between week 11
and week 12, there wasn't a buy.
There wasn't a,
you know,
it's hard to put much stock into it.
That's not to say that it doesn't have value,
but generally speaking,
full season statistics are more predictive than half season statistics.
And,
um,
I just,
I also,
there's the fact that,
you know,
during that final seven game stretch of the regular season,
it's not like the passing offense was humming, you know, it's the fact that, you know, during that final seven game stretch of the regular season, it's not like the passing offense was humming.
You know, it's not like they made a change in philosophy
and all of a sudden things got much better.
And you can point to that and say, well,
maybe they'll try to continue working in that way.
We don't really have that here.
We do have Metcalf being better than Lockett last season,
but I just think given the type of players that they are,
you know, Metcalf's going to be better,
but I think Lockett's still going to get close to the same target share.
So that's the one other thing is I did actually start the offseason off,
I think, with Metcalf continuing to grow
and taking a little more of the targets from Lockett.
I readjusted that with all the talk coming out of Seattle
about how much they're trying to get the ball out of Lockett's hands quicker.
Because I do think, like, if you look at the types of routes they've succeeded on so far in their careers,
Lockett is better on those short area targets, and he gets targeted a lot more on those short area targets.
And so I think that there's a chance that the offensive philosophy change could lead to more targets for Lockett.
And Jamie, what do you think about the targets Lockett and Metcalf?
I wouldn't be surprised if they're close.
But I also think, you know,
Heath just brought up where I think a lot of people are leaning is that
you're hoping Metcalf takes that leap.
You're hoping that the next evolution of DK Metcalf as he enters his third
season is that the route tree expands that, you know,
what he's been sort of complaining about, you know,
secondary to Russell Wilson,
which kind of gets overlooked because he's a wide receiver and not a
quarterback is that, you know, he said that the offense got stagnant,
you know, and, and I think that's kind of been the underlying theme of what
the Seahawks off season has been is that, you know,
change of coordinator is going to bring about some, you know,
differences in how things are done,
that they're not just throwing the ball down the field and there are letting the wide receivers do some different things with the ball.
Now, if I'm the Seahawks and I see Tyler Locke and DK Metcalf,
I would want to get the ball in DK Metcalf's hands more
because he's just a physical freak.
And so the more touches he gets, the better that team will probably be.
So I think DK Metcalf has a higher ceiling,
so I would hope that the targets are a little bit more slanted in his favor. Uh, 27% to 21, probably not that much. Uh, like you
said, Adam down the stretch, but you know, maybe 25, 21, um, you know, something a little bit
closer, but still in Metcalf's favor, he deserves the ball more. He shouldn't get the ball more.
Um, so, uh, the lock it's ending up, you know, just to be a great value pick, you know, you just
have to deal with some of the highs and lows. Cause that's the player he's ending up you know just to be a great value pick you know you just have to deal
with some of the highs and lows because that's the player he's been you know if you just look
at the sample sizes as heath alluded to uh over the course of his career you know it's not just
last year i mean that's just kind of the player he's been you know he'll have some really hot
stretches and he gets cold for a while um you know that could change if if he's running different
rounds but um he'll end up being a very good value pick you know around five and beyond
yeah mech have is an interesting pick
because I'm looking at NFC ADP,
and he's wide receiver six,
just after Calvin Ridley
and just before Justin Jefferson and A.J. Brown.
But in our drafts,
I feel like he's more of a third-round pick.
I'm just looking at one we did a few weeks ago.
He went in the third round.
He went after A.J. Brown,
after Michael Thomas,
after Keenan Allen, and just before terry mclaurin and it seems like that is sort of a a tier right there
ending with metcalf and mclaurin or something like that and then and then after that you've got you
know your alan robinson's your bucks wide receivers and whatnot but you know nfc adp has metcalf at
the beginning of the tier basically and in our draft seems like he's at the end of the tier. Maybe that's because we're more of a full PPR default and a NFC is half.
Yeah.
I mean,
it's,
it's an interesting range because Metcalf,
Jefferson and Brown,
they're all very similar,
uh,
players in terms of,
you know,
they're,
I guess Jefferson and Brown,
you can see being more true alpha wide receivers.
Whereas,
you know,
he, he and I at least think Metcalf's going to split targets more.
But they're not going to be the 140, 150 target guys most likely.
A little respect to Julio Jones, huh?
Sure, sure. Yes, that's fair.
But I do still think A.J. Brown's going to get more targets than him.
But yes, that's fair.
That's interesting.
So you think he's going to get more than Jones? Or you think he's going to get more targets than him. But yes, that's fair. That's interesting. So you think he's going to get more than Jones,
or you think he's going to get more than Metcalf, or both?
I think Brown's going to get, well, both.
Yes.
All right, let's finish it with that.
First of all, A.J. Brown or D.K. Metcalf,
and who gets more targets?
Brown for both, for me.
I think Metcalf gets more targets now.
Who are you drafting?
Metcalf and non-and-half,
A.J. Brown and PPR.
I think we'll catch a ball more.
I'm drafting A.J. Brown over Metcalf.
I have them almost the same targets,
but I do think I have Brown at four more.
Okay.
Yeah, I think the Tars will be close.
All right.
We will take a break.
When we come back,
why does Heath have
Dak Prescott projected
for 72 more pass attempts
than Chris does?
And what the heck's
going on with the
Tampa Bay passing game?
Is it going to be
a pretty even split
between the top three guys
in terms of targets?
We'll talk about that
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All right, so Dak Prescott.
The pass attempts are big here, and the production is big.
I mean, not only does Heath have Dak projected
for 72 more pass attempts than Chris does,
he's got him projected for about 800 more yards,
only one more touchdown.
But this is a big, big difference in projections.
Chris, where do you have Dak ranked?
He is QB five, six, I think.
And Heath, for you?
The same.
He's seven for me, sorry.
I'm just a little lower.
But I only have him
five points behind Josh Allen.
Okay, I thought you had him fifth.
You have him fifth or sixth?
I have him ranked fifth, yes.
In the projections, he's sixth
because Russell Wilson's
right there with him.
I see.
Okay, well,
this is noteworthy, right?
It's a big difference here.
Yeah, I think probably this would be really easily explained i would guess that i am leaning more heavily on
dak prescott's production with kellen moore than and largely ignoring dak prescott's volume without
kellen moore chris is that it uh i think that probably explains at least some of it but i think
the bigger difference in looking at it is i have the cowboys projected to run
like 1100 plays right around there 1060 like yeah i'm not sure what the exact number is but
i think he has them projected to run about 50 more plays than i
do so that explains the decent they're all pass plays well i know it's not they're all pass plays
like if you look at deck prescott in 20 games with uh kellen moore calling plays his average
40 pass attempts per game right and i've that would be 680 passes over a full season so i've actually drawn him back a little
bit from there yeah but like i'm being conservative i think you're you're being
aggressive on the plays run um at 11 50 i'm at like 11 20 so there's that gap but i think
the bigger thing is you have them throwing a couple, you know, a little bit more often.
I do think the efficiency numbers are,
are pretty similar.
Um,
I have him for the same amount of touchdowns,
actually fewer interceptions,
um,
and a similar yards per attempt.
I think it just,
it comes down to pass attempts really.
That's the biggest difference.
And I could definitely see the scenario where they lead
the the nfl and pass attempts and i would imagine you probably have them leading the nfl by
a second a significant margin arrow tied for with tampa bay okay um i don't know i could see that
happening but i i have him fourth in past attempts so i think maybe it's just you have a little more pass volume overall for the
league.
I find it interesting that you're pretty far
off on the stats in terms of
800 passing yards,
like what, 70
or 80 rushing yards,
and no, about 60
rushing yards, one and a half rushing
touchdowns, and yet
you're not that far off in the rankings. So what does that mean overall about your
quarterback projections? 100% a tier thing.
It's a tier discussion for me. Like I said, I've got Josh Allen, Kyler Murray,
Russell Wilson, and Dak Prescott within four and a half fantasy points of each other.
The next quarterback after Dak Prescott is like 30 points behind him.
I do wonder if maybe, since you seem to be higher on quarterbacks overall,
last season was a historic season for passing,
but that was at least somewhat heavily weighted towards early in the season
when there were much more high-scoring offensive games.
There were much more high-passing yardage games,
and it kind of settled down.
It might just be that I'm regressing a little more
for passing yardage in general as well.
But one thing I wanted to look at,
Dallas, obviously, Dak Prescott was on pace
for, what, 6,000 passing yards last season.
In the four and a half, four and three quarters games he played,
let's call it five.
He was never going to throw.
He was on pace for also like 700 pass attempts
or something completely ridiculous.
About 50 a game.
And they were a very pass heavyheavy team in those five games.
But actually, if you look at the situation neutral,
so when the score was seven points either way,
between seven points trailing or seven points up,
they were 10th in pass rate at 59% in neutral situations,
which is, that's high, but it's not necessarily as high as it seems based on the total yardage and past
attempts. So, you know, they were playing from behind a lot.
Their defense was pretty historically awful in those first five games.
So, you know, that, that does weight the numbers a little bit.
And it's hard to know what an Andy Dalton led offense can tell us about a Dak
Prescott led offense. I would guess not very
much, but I am
assuming a little more
regression to being
a pass heavy
team, but not so
dramatically, I guess. Yeah, I've got
about 56.7% pass
rate. Yeah, I'm at 54.
Okay, I just want to clarify, just correct
the number that I gave. I said about 50 pass attempts per game.
That was in his first four games.
If you factor in the fifth game, it's 44 pass attempts per game for Dak Prescott.
All right, Jamie, you want to add anything on Dak,
or you want to go to the Bucs guys?
I mean, the Cowboys are about to be the most overdrafted fantasy players
that we're going to see this year because they're going to be on hard knocks,
and they're already very exciting to begin with already.
So I think Dak could push himself into the top three if he
looks great i think uh zeke is going to push himself back into the top five if he continues
to have these wonderful workout videos everybody keeps uh falling in love with the receivers are
obviously very exciting to begin with as well hopefully mario cooper's healthy this is going
to be great offense you know If that line is right,
the Cowboys are going to be
all drafted
and the top Cowboys
are probably all going to be drafted in the first four rounds.
Yeah, and then Gallup, maybe round
nine or so. And that brings us to
Tampa Bay, another team that should have
a great offense, maybe the best in football.
Look like the best team in football.
Fair to say. Are they your Super Bowl favorites
right now?
No.
Chiefs.
Yeah, I'd still say Chiefs.
Yeah. Okay. Well, they're the NFC favorites.
Can we say that?
Yeah. Vegas has said so as well.
Rematch. Oh, I know what Vegas says.
You guys have more credibility
than those guys. Okay, anyway, the wide receivers. You guys have more credibility than those guys.
Okay, anyway, the wide receivers.
I'm going to give Jamie the first word here,
but I'll just lay it out.
I'll just give targets.
Heath has Godwin at 117,
Evans at 123,
and Brown at 117.
So that's all within six,
and Godwin and Brown with the same amount of targets.
Chris has Godwin at 114, Evans at 111, and Brown at 97.
So you have Brown clearly third.
Jamie, do you think it will, you know, what do you think overall?
Do you think it'll be close in targets?
Does that mean that the best value is actually going to be Antonio Brown?
Give me your quick little breakdown here of the Bucs wide receivers.
The best value is Antonio Brown. I mean, because if he plays, you know, the majority of the season,
you know, he's, he's clearly got still the talent enough to be one of Tom Brady's go-to guys. He
showed that in his, you know, short stint at the end of the regular season before he got hurt going
into the playoffs or in the playoffs. Um, this is a great receiving core. I know you factor in the
tight ends. It's, it's hard not to spread the ball around. They finally have a pass catching running back that they're going to use
that they didn't have last year.
It's the same level of what Giovanni Bernard is compared to Leonard
Fournette and Ronald Jones.
This,
this is just a,
a,
a,
a buffet for Tom Brady that he's going to feast on.
And,
and it's going to be unfortunate for fantasy managers,
I think,
because,
you know,
you're going to fall in love with the names and Mike Evans with his
consecutive streak of thousand yards seasons and, and double digit touchdowns that he just had last year.
And Godwin with all the hype that he had last year and still showed you some of that promise and obviously Antonio Brown's resume.
So value wise, Antonio Brown's fantastic.
But I still think Godwin's the best Bucs wide receiver.
I would hope he gets not significantly more targets than the group, but enough that he stays healthy and hopefully gets a big contract
that he didn't get this year because of the circumstances.
So I still like Godwin the best.
I will draft him over Evans.
Evans is somebody I tend to avoid just because he's going too high,
in my opinion.
And Brown is somebody, if I get him in the right spot,
I'll certainly take a chance on him, which is somewhere in the round eight range.
You'd rather have him than Michael Gallup?
That's a great question.
I probably would rather have Antonio Brown.
And Evans currently is 41st in ADP
and Godwin 46th.
So do those...
I know you like Godwin better,
but independently, do they feel like decent values?
Talking round four here.
It's the right spot that they should start to go. And it's format specific Independently, do they feel like decent values? We're talking round four here.
It's the right spot that they should start to go.
And it's format specific because half and non-PPR,
I think Evan's ceiling is higher because of the touchdown potential.
Godwin just hasn't shown you that yet.
But in PPR, I think Godwin's better.
Half PPR, you can make a, you know,
you're splitting hairs, I think, on those two guys.
I do think they're both being a little overdrafted,
at least based on my projections. I have 21st and 22nd. So, you know, I think they're those two guys. I do think they're both being a little overdrafted, at least based on my projections.
I have 21st and 22nd,
so I think they're both pretty close.
Yeah, Evans is wide receiver 14 and Godwin's 18.
Evans is 14 overall wide receiver.
Right. Yeah.
And that's why...
I think we're having a little bit of internet issues or just talking over it.
I don't know.
That was weird.
Was that technology or just human error?
I thought Chris's internet was going in and out.
I thought so.
Yeah.
I think my internet's jacked.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Heath, you're up.
Yes.
I have Godwin and Evans both in my bus column just because of that wide receiver 14,
wide receiver 18.
I don't, and I don't like it.
I wrote about that in the column.
It doesn't feel comfortable saying
wide receiver is that talented
on an offense that we expect to be that good,
but it was just so even between them and Brown.
And you know Brady's going to throw at least 20%
of his passes to running backs, and O.J.
Howard and Rob Gronkowski are going to score a bunch
of touchdowns. So I just...
Unless Tom Brady
is just the best quarterback in fantasy,
I think it's going to be a problem.
And he
was, as I mentioned, the last
seven games?
I think it was, yeah, the number three quarterback in fantasy last year.
Now, let's take a look at these numbers for all of them
in Antonio Brown's first seven games.
He played eight games.
Mike Evans got hurt very early in the eighth.
So we'll eliminate that.
That was week 17.
Let's just take a look at the splits.
Brady was on pace for 4,674 yards and 37 touchdowns.
Evans was on pace for 135 targets.
He was by far the best of the group.
135 targets, 1,342 yards, and 14 touchdowns.
That was Evans.
Godwin was on pace for 80 catches on 110 targets, 978 yards, and 7 touchdowns. That was Evans. Godwin was on pace for 80 catches on 110 targets,
978 yards and seven touchdowns.
Brown was on pace for only three fewer targets,
only two fewer catches than Godwin,
but almost 200 fewer yards,
789 yards compared to 978,
and five touchdowns. So Evans, I mean, Evans was a superstar
worthy of a second round pick, basically, in those seven games.
Godwin, 80 catches, 978 yards, seven touchdowns.
Brown on pace for 78 catches, 789 and five.
The numbers, by the way, are a lot better if you eliminate the first game.
They just really, they had a crappy game.
They lost 38-3 against New Orleans.
And then after that, Tom Brady just went off.
It was three or four touchdowns basically
every game. But
that's how it played out last year.
Evans with a big advantage over both of them.
And it will be a very
tough choice.
Evans was pretty mediocre
in the playoffs, or at least super underwhelming.
He had 22 targets, 204 yards,
so 9.3 yards per target
is pretty good, but only 204 yards so 9.3 yards per target's pretty good but only 204 yards
in four playoffs i don't know well no didn't he miss the first game or no i always forget i know
he got on week godwin i think godwin and brown maybe missed one game brown definitely brown
missed the game but no evans played at least 81 of the snaps he got his usual role in that stretch
and even he was healthy though that's the thing even those last seven games i mean it was a lot of touchdowns and it was a couple of really big games but he also had
three straight games with 56 yards or fewer um the thing with evans was early in the season
especially he looked like a souped up julius thomas or something he was playing like a like
a tight end it was a lot of touchdown, but like 50 yards per game early on.
And then it took him and Brady some time to get on the same page,
but it finally did happen.
Brady was really effective on the deep ball late in the season,
and that made Mike Evans much better.
If they can carry over that second half momentum into this season,
then we're all going to be too low on Mike Evans.
We usually are.
What's that?
We often are.
I mean,
this guy for people have doubts about him a lot and he just always at the
end of the day,
just the numbers are there and he was second in the NFL and green zone
targets.
And he was like sixth and red zone targets last year.
The thing that I struggle with is one,
when the games are most important
and your production flags like that, what does that tell me?
And it doesn't tell me anything bad about Mike Evans.
What it tells me is that Tom Brady is such a good quarterback
that he's never going to force the ball to one guy.
He's going to spread the ball around as much as he can,
and that's going to lead to inconsistencies for all three of these guys, I think.
Evans and Godwin, they feel like high floor players it doesn't feel like they're gonna bust and and be some huge
season ruining disappointment for your team it's just when you're talking about that 14 to 20 range
wide receiver there are other guys i prefer who might have a little more room to grow and exceed
that price but in terms of players who are most
likely to make a return on investment i think they're right up there in that group which is
it's you know what you're looking for when you're building your team i suppose um but yeah well
here's one thing kind of at the point where brady's the only player on the bucks offense that
i really want for fantasy.
Everyone else, I just don't want any part of the running backs unless I can get them dirt cheap.
And unless it's Antonio Brown,
the price for everyone else just...
It feels hard to get a profit on any of those players.
Except for Brown.
Yeah, that's right.
I wish I didn't hate Antonio Brown so much
because I would draft him a lot,
but he will never be on any of my fantasy teams.
But I would recommend him.
Maybe Gio Bernard.
I would recommend Antonio Brown to the listeners
because, yeah, he's an injury to Evans or Godwin
away from being a great value
for getting him in the ninth round or eighth round
or whatever it might be.
All right.
So let's read some emails.
Emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
This is from Kojo from Ghana.
All right.
He says, dear spicy Italian on ciabatta,
pulled pork with coleslaw and meatball subs,
the indisputable top three sandwiches.
No, but I like the passion.
In my two leagues...
What's that?
Like a burger?
No, stop.
I'm not falling for it.
In my two leagues last year,
I drafted McCaffrey at 101
and Sanders at 301
in a 10-team league,
and Mixon at 112
and Drake at 201
in a 12-team team league half PPR Yahoo
gave both of my drafts
A's but I'm sure as you can imagine
both seasons ended up being trash with
McCaffrey and Sanders in one league and
Mixon and Drake in the other can you talk me
down off the 0RB ledge for this year
Jamie can you talk
Kojo down
from the 0RB ledge
so he wants to go a different route.
Well, he's thinking about going zero RB
because running back, running back
worked out so poorly for him last year.
Yeah.
I mean, look, injuries played a part,
obviously, in the McCaffrey one.
What was it?
Drake and who?
McCaffrey and Sanders in one league
and Mixon and Drake in the other.
Yeah, so another injury situation with Mixon.
I think that what we're going to see a lot of is, you know,
I don't know if you want to call it modified zero RB or just, you know,
just taking one running back early, but that seems to be the safest route
because if you can get one of your top 10, top 12, top 15 running backs
in the first two rounds, whoever that might be for you,
whoever ranking, whatever rank list you follow,
and then you just start, you just start getting your wide receivers
or tight ends or quarterbacks somewhere in rounds one through five.
That seems to be a safer approach if you want to avoid the volatility of what the running
backs have been.
So pick the running back you like, depending on what draft choice you're at, and then just
take some of those high end wide receivers or tight end or quarterback.
Yeah.
Kojo, I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend. This is from Rufus.
You can find a better sandwich.
Every year we draw names and the order of names is in the order in which we get to decide our draft position. It is non PPR, six points for all touchdowns. What do you think is the
ideal draft position in a 12 teamteam non-PPR league?
I mean, historically, it's first overall.
Except for last year.
Yeah, historically, first overall tends to have the highest win rate.
And I think we all think Christian McCaffrey is significantly better than everyone else.
So, I would say 1-1.
Yeah.
It's boring it's not it's it's the chalk take but sometimes you don't have to over complicate things when you got a player like
christian mccaffrey at one one i agree with chris anybody disagree i'd probably go three
just because you're gonna get one of cook or henry which is still pretty good. And then you get an earlier pick before one.
Yeah.
Does that matter?
Do you need...
Because you also get an earlier third round pick,
obviously, if you have the 1-1 instead of 1-3.
And actually,
I bring that up because he's interested in getting
either Waller or Kittle in round three.
And those two picks might
make a difference in that regard. Waller or Kittle might be available at 3 those two picks might make a difference in that regard.
You know, Waller or Kittle might be available at 3-1 and not 3-3.
That's obviously just speculation.
You never know.
But that's, you know, he wants to try to get Waller or Kittle in round three.
So with that as a consideration, Jamie, would you stick with the third pick
or would you go with the first?
Yeah, just because non-PPR, I want to get, you know, more running back capital
and you have a better chance
of still getting a top
15 caliber running back in the
20th,
21st pick,
22nd pick, whatever it is.
As opposed
to hoping that I get one of the tight ends
in the early part of round three.
All right. Next email
is from
Carl from a Canadian city south of Whistler. All right. Next email is from... No.
Oh, Carl from a Canadian city south of Whistler.
We'll ask Dave at a later date.
Dear Ricky, Ronnie...
Will you actually ask Dave?
No.
Ricky, Ronnie, Lamar, and Reggie.
Dolphins running backs, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
12-team standards.
They had Reggie.
I don't even remember.
I don't remember Reggie
pushing on the Dolphins.
2,000-yard seasons
for the Dolphins, I think.
What?
Why do I not remember that?
That's strange.
Yeah, Reggie was good.
Ricky was a monster
at one point.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was.
He was great for them.
Ronnie and Ricky
was the Wildcat.
12-team standards
scoring keeper league.
We can keep three players.
Lamar went to a crappy school.
Crappy school. Did you see this?
All this endorsement stuff?
It's awesome. It's weird.
It's so awesome.
Maybe I'm showing my age.
I thought it was Lamar Smith.
No, it's Lamar Miller.
Lamar Smith is...
I covered the Dolphins-Colts playoff game.
One of the loudest stadiums I've ever
seen. Certainly in South Florida.
44 carries or something in that game?
Yeah, he was just a beast in overtime.
12-team standard scoring
keeper league. We can keep three players
max for three years max.
So help me pick three.
I have the 11th pick.
McCaffrey in the first, standard scoring.
Tyreek Hill in the second.
Waller in the third.
Diggs in the fifth.
Robert Woods in the 12th.
And Dak in the 14th.
He needs just three of them.
He can keep them for up to three years.
McCaffrey in the first.
Tyreek Hill in the second.
Waller in the third.
Diggs in the fifth. Woods in the 12elfth, and Prescott in the fourteenth.
And remember, it is non-PPR.
I feel like we just dodged a terrible
Azar take on the
college football. I'll get back to it.
I'd like to circle back around that. No problem.
McCaffrey, Diggs,
and Dak for me. McCaffrey,
Diggs, and Dak.
So he keeps him at a first-round cost for three years in a row?
McCaffrey, yeah.
Let's pick 11 this year.
True.
And Diggs in the fifth and Prescott in the 14th.
Yeah, no, I was just trying to get the circumstances.
But it's at that value for three years in a row.
I guess so.
Yeah, I think it's McCaffrey, Diggs, and Dak.
I would go McCaffrey, Waller, and Diggs.
Okay.
No, I think it's going to be very anti-competitive.
I think it's going to be...
Because if there's one thing college football is known for...
Yeah, it's going to be even worse.
...it's the enormous parity.
It's going to be even worse.
Oh, no, we're going to have the same two teams
in the national championship every year?
It's going to be even worse. Adam, it to have the same two teams in the national championship every year? It's going to be even worse.
Adam, it's a little hypocritical
for a UM fan to get mad
about teams being uber competitive
while compensating players.
I was going to say that.
Ridiculous.
UM is going to benefit from this.
They just had a company sign on
that's going to give...
Adam, we've been hearing UM was going to be good for like 20 years.
I didn't say they were going to be good.
I said they're going to benefit from this.
They've been paying their players for longer than that.
Yeah.
Actually, they lose players to SEC programs that pay more.
That's what they say.
That's what a reporter says.
American Top Teams plans $540,000
NIL commitment
to Miami. So they are willing to
give every player at Miami
the same amount of money, and if every
player opts in, that will cost $500,000.
That will cost $500,000. No, this is bad. I don't like
this. This is bad for the competitiveness.
No, I'm happy that the players are getting paid. I don't care if they
get paid, but they've got to figure out a way to
do it so that it doesn't just
make the rich get... Stop talking right now. that it doesn't just make the rich get... Stop talking
right now. That it just doesn't make
the rich get richer.
This is going to be anti-competitive
for college football.
I don't mean that way. I mean
that the schools, the best schools
are going to
be the best at this.
And they're going to say, come to Alabama. We've got
all these endorsements lined up.
Of course that's going to happen.
This is not fair for FIU.
I don't think you have to worry about you.
I'm dominating anyone.
It's okay.
It's very frustrating to have conversations with you
when you say things like that.
All right, here we go.
From, where's the, Tucker from Rhode Island.
Dear Sean, Roger, Timothy,
and Pierce. And those are James Bonds.
I'm in a seven-year running
10-team, two-quarterback league
with three wide receivers
and three flex.
I have McCaffrey. I pick 101.
I'm going to take McCaffrey. I can keep up to four
players. I'm going to keep Diggs
in the third. So give me three more.
Let's see. Are there any other...
Okay. Here we go.
Well, he's giving us
all of his keepers.
He needs three more.
He's going to keep Jefferson and Herbert in the ninth
and tenth rounds. Alright. So he needs
one more. Keenan Allen in the second round Jefferson and Herbert in the ninth and tenth rounds. All right. So he needs one more.
Keenan Allen in the second round.
David Montgomery in the fourth.
Latavius in the eighth.
Goddard in the tenth.
And Connor in the thirteenth.
Mayfield in the sixteenth. It is a 2QB league.
So that's interesting.
Mayfield.
Yeah. It's Mayfield.
Yeah, I guess.
That's a free spot. Mayfield it is.
Good. I don't feel like disagreeing with people anymore.
We're out of here.
Thanks for listening, everybody. We got AFC projections
coming up later.
We're recording it later today, but you will hear it
on Wednesday. We have a live listener mock draft
that you will hear on Thursday. It's going to be a fun week here
on Fantasy Football today. We'll talk to you soon. Have a good one.