Fantasy Football Today - Most Upside in Rounds 3-5 (05/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

Do you love drafting upside? We'll take you through Rounds 3-5 and debate upside by position. First, a look at how many targets or touches are needed to be truly elite in Fantasy (3:45) and news and notes (7:10) on Malik Nabers, Matthew Stafford, Jacoby Brissett and more ... Starting with Round 3 running backs (12:00), who has the most upside between Jeremiyah Love, Kyren Williams and Breece Hall? There are lot of Round 3 wide receivers (21:50) to discuss including AJ Brown, Nico Collins, Chris Olave and Emeka Egbuka. There's also Brock Bowers! ... Round 4 RBs (30:45) include Cam Skattebo, Quinshon Judkins, Javonte Williams, Travis Etienne and Bucky Irving as we debate the upside in that group. The upside among Round 4 WRs (36:50) is another tough call. How do Colston Loveland, Drake Maye and Lamar Jackson compare? And we finish with Round 5 (46:50) and guys like D'Andre Swift, Terry McLaurin, Alec Pierce, DJ Moore and Jaylen Waddle, among others ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Good morning and happy Tuesday to everybody. Hope everyone had a great three-day weekend. Welcome to fantasy football today. We're looking at groups of players in the same round, at the same position, who has the most upside. Doesn't necessarily mean you should draft them first in that group, but it's a fun conversation to have. Good morning, Dave.

Is this a game of who has more? I didn't think of it that way, but it certainly can be. Good morning, Heath. Hi, Adam. Hey, Jamie, good morning. Or, hey, Heath. Good morning, Jamie. Congratulations to your next.

Somebody had to say it. Thank you. Thank you, Jamie. Yeah. They're fun. They're not that fun. I can tell you, you know, I was group chatting. Yeah, no, I was, I was, you know, are you kidding me?

Listen, listen, I was group texting with my cousins or big Knicks fans, and they say they were almost on the verge of tears during the trophy presentation. I'm like, we killed them. We destroyed them three games in a row. We're killing everyone. This isn't fun? This is, this is embarrassing. No, what you're saying is embarrassing.

As someone whose basketball team hasn't, like, barely sniffed the playoffs in two decades. Feels like two decades. It's more like one. Like, I would be having the time of my life if my team were in the finals right now. And you're not calling them fun. You're not allowed to watch anymore. You're not allowed to watch your team in the finals. That's it.

That's it. I'm sure I'll have tennis and softball matches conflicting. But it's just, oh, yeah, softball matches. It's too easy. It's just too easy right now. You know, it's hard to... So who do you want? Who do you want to see?

Spurs and Seven is my Western Conference hope. You know, I think we can take them. I don't think we can take a healthy thunder. But no, you never know. They're playing great. Anyway, also, you know, the other thing is they've clinched all three rounds on the road, which is a little anticlimactic. Like, I don't get to celebrate with their fans.

But, you know, Nixon 5. Do they still do 232 or do they do 221-1-1? Oh, my God. In the finals. Does they do one-one-one now? Yes. Okay, that Nixon six. All right.

So this episode's about upside. So I did all this research this morning that I don't think is going to really apply to anyone we talk about today because we're starting in round three. But I just thought I have some interesting numbers. I think you might find them a little fascinating just for your round one and two guys,

maybe round three. What do you need to be a running back who averages 19 or more PPR fantasy points per game? over the last five years. Most of them had 21 touches per game. And if they didn't, almost all of the guys who didn't have 21 touches per game had at least four catches per game. It's just a number you might want to look for.

Wide receivers, this one was interesting. 20 wide receivers averaged 19 or more fantasy points per game in PPR over the last five years. All of them, all of them, average 9.6 or more targets per game, except for Debo Samuel when he had all those, when an eight rushing touchdown. touchdowns, 400-ish rushing yards, whatever it was. That was the only one. 9.6 targets per game to get to 19 or more PPR fantasy points per game for a wide receiver. I started this research, guys, because of Colson Loveland.

And can he get enough targets to hit a certain number? So I went with 14 or more PPR fantasy points per game. For a tight end to get that over the last five years, most of them, other than George Kittle, have averaged seven or more targets per game. Kittle three times, and Tucker Kraft in eight games last year, are the only tight ends who got to 14 or more points per game without seven or more targets. How about 15 or more points per game? That's a more exclusive club.

All of the guys, I think there have been seven tight ends in the last five years who've gotten to 15 points per game. They've all averaged 8.4 targets per game or more, except for George Kittle. So that's just a number there. 15 points per game is really elite. Would you set, would you, how many tight ends would you draft and be disappointed if they averaged exactly 15 points per game? Two. Two. Okay. So you'd take that for Loveland. Yes. Are you kidding? Of course.

Yeah. Would you take 14 points per game for Loveland? Yes. Okay. You think he'll get eight or more targets per game? No. I think he'll get seven? Around seven, yes. I think it'll be around eight per game. I'm trying to do some math.

So that's 136 targets. That's eight or seven? Eight per game. Eight per games, 136 targets. I think somebody on the bears between Bird and O'Dunesay and Lovelland will get to eight. I have all three of them at seven and a half.

Seven and a half? Okay, well, that's great. That's great. for Loveland. All right. So yeah, that's the elites to what we're looking at

in terms of touches and targets. Heath, what are we looking at for FFT Dynasty this week? I got Smitty coming on in about an hour and 10 minutes. We're playing two today. It's a double header.

We're talking about some of the injury storylines that we're watching going into this season. And if any of those matter for a dynasty perspective, other than the fact that they might be cheaper

to acquire right now. Okay. Well, certainly Malik Neighbors is going to be discussed on that show. We'll get to him in a minute. Mailbag, Thursday. Thursday, mailbag, email us at Fantasy Football at CBSI.com. We got a lot of emails, so a lot to catch up on. News and notes. Heath, Malik Neighbors, Giants aren't sure when he's going to be able to play. Looking at early CBS ADP, is going, I think, 25th overall. Where do we need to be drafting Malik Neighbors? I think I've got him right around 30, maybe just ahead of. think it's interesting because it's not just when he's going to play, but if he's going to be the same guy. I think if you told everybody, you know what, he's going to start him a pup.

He's not going to play the first four weeks, but then he's going to be the Malik neighbors that we've seen in the past for the last 13 weeks of the season. We might still take him at 25th. But the concern is that not just that he misses a couple of games to start of the year, but that he's not the same guy. Yep. Moved him down this morning, round four. Wow. Well, you know, in the spirit of the discussion we're having today, for thinking about upside. You know, right now he's going in between Nico Collins and A.J. Brown.

But I would expect that to drop to the Chris Olave, Devante Smith, Teterole McMillan, Emeka, Buka, T. Higgins range, late round three and into round four. Those guys are all round three picks right now on CBS. But we're talking about Malik neighbors, Jamie. So we got a 30th overall, roughly for Heath. we got round four for Dave, which is 37th or later. What about you for neighbors? Or we call him 40th overall for me.

Okay, 40th. He's the end of round three, 36. Right in the middle, but very adorbs. Okay, and that's neighbors. More news. Matthew Stafford signed a contract extension through 2027. So, Dave, what do you think that would mean for anyone who would be wanting to draft Ty Simpson in a dynasty league right now?

Shouldn't be surprising. Simpson is a long-term play in Dynasty. It's as simple as that. When he gets his opportunity, hopefully he's ready to go. And I'm happy for Stafford got paid. One way to feel better about your team taking a quarterback in round one is to get $55 million in your bank account. And now we see Stafford with one of the best receiving cores in the NFL, a good offensive line. There's potential for it to be solid even after this season.

I think you can feel good about Stafford going into 2026. Right now you can't feel great about Jacoby Brissette. He and the Cardinals are not close on contract negotiations according to ESPN. This doesn't seem like a big deal, but Devon A-chan missed at least one OTA session with an unknown injury, according to the Miami Herald. Anybody moved A-chan based on this report? No.

Not me. No, still a round two-pick. This does seem like a big deal. Adam Schaeftor reporting that Tyreek Hill may not be ready until midway through the season, recovering from a broken leg, right? Tyree Kill? Yeah.

What did you say? Didn't he tear ligaments in his need to? Yeah, I think it was just a like massive injury. Yeah, it was a bad one. The chief... Like everything broke. Have no plans to extend Rishi Rice before the season starts, according to Schefter. And he's set to be a free agent, not Schefter.

I don't know his contract status, but Rice is set to be a free agent after this season. Dalton Kincaid said this is probably the best he has ever felt at this point in the year. He's really battled injuries, especially over the last two years. Last season, Kincade didn't even crack 50 targets. He did get to 40, but he had 2.83 yards per out run, which is the best yards per out run for a tight end with 40 or more targets since George Kittle in 2020. I will warn you, Chig O'Konkwo once averaged 2.65 yards per out run in 2022 on 46 targets, but Kincade was really efficient last year, just couldn't really stay on the fields.

They were limiting his workload. He feels good. Joe Hortiz, the GM of the Chargers, did not rule out signing Keenan Allen. We don't want that for Fantasy. purposes, but for Keenan Allen's purposes, it would be very nice for him. Bryce Young is looking really good at OTAs, according to Cameron Wolf of NFL Network. Brandon I. Youke, according to Cam Inman of the Mercury News, is expected to be released or traded by the end of the summer.

Pittsburgh offensive tackle, Broderick Jones. He has got this neck injury. He says he has no timeline for a return. And the Giants looks like they lost a starting defensive tackle, perhaps. Roy Robertson Harris, at least a rotational player, probably for the season with a torn Achilles. Tough break there. Break or upside?

Break or upside? Let's do upside. All right, let's go to round three. If you go to CBSports.com, the best way to do is probably to Google it. CBS Sports ADP and check our PPR ADP. And we'll show you the results here as we take you through round three. I'll just give you, I'll group them by position. running backs drafted in round three.

Who has the most upside Heath Cummings, Jeremiah Love, Brees Hall, or Kairn Williams? I'll play my role and be the guy to say Kyrin Williams. And I think there's a couple of paths to that happening. One is something happens to Blake Coram, and all of a sudden Kairn Williams has 22 duches a game. Two is we're not going to do the DeVante Adams goal line-wide receiver

thing anymore and Kairn Williams gets back to 16 touchdowns in a season. So I should have laid out these parameters and I apologize. I always do that to you. But I think let's do non-injury upside. If you want to mention injury upside, I think it's worth mentioning. Sure. And he's in a situation. Like is Kairn Williams situation any different than, well, if there's a James Connor,

I guess we would need a Connor and Algeria injury? Yes, because the Rams offense is good and is going to score a bunch of touchdowns. Sure. Okay. All right. But I think let's do non-injury upside. But if you think it's really worth mentioning injury upside, like in a T. Higgins or something like that,

then I think go ahead and bring it up. But if we take injuries away from the equation, would you still pick Kyron in this group of Love, Hall, Kairn? I'll still say Kiron because I think the touchdown upside and how good the offense is. Dave, who's got the most upside? Jeremiah Love, Breast Hall, Kairn Williams. I'll play my role and say Jeremiah Love.

I think he's got the path to, I don't know if path is the right word. Let me, let me start over. I think he's got the most talent of these three running backs. And I know that sounds silly. He's a rookie. He's never played in the NFL.

I've watched all three of these guys. I just love what love brings to the field. Will he have that pathway to have the type of workload that these other two running backs who I think are going to end up sharing as long as everybody's healthy will have? Well, he's going to share too. But I think he's going to be better than we think he is as a pass catcher. I think he'll be used that way a lot. and I think he could probably lead this trio in total yardage.

The touchdowns is what I worry about. And I'm not sure if Arizona's on the same level as L.A. when it comes to touchdowns, they're not. But I do think that there is a chance for him. Let's call it 17 PPR points per game. Not saying he's going to do it. I'm saying he's got the upside to get there. And I don't quite see that for Breeshall.

And Kairn can get there. Kyrn's got the safer floor. But I think that Jeremiah Love has just a little bit more ups. because he's just the better talent in Arizona compared to Kyran sharing with KORM, maybe even to a 50-50 split in L.A. Jamie, who has the most upside? Jeremy, I love, Breece Hall or Kyron Williams. Yeah, I would have said Breece Hall anyway, so I'll make the case for him just because

what we saw from him at times in his career. And obviously the knock for Brise Hall is going to be he's on a terrible team. He's always been on a terrible team. So, you know, what we saw at the start of his rookie season before the ACL tear, what we saw from him as a past catcher coming back in his second year when nobody expected him to do anything from a productive production standpoint. We can, I think, win in all categories except for maybe the touchdown potential that Kyron Williams has. But he's sharing the least of these three by far, you know, even if he is going to share at all. So maybe Braylon Allen coming back from injury is going to have a role. Maybe Isaiah Davis is going to have a role.

they clearly just paid Brees Hall to be a featured back. We know for right now at least Jeremiah Love is sharing with potentially two other running backs. And clearly the Rams have made it clear that they want to make it a, you know, the reports at least a 50-50 split with Blake Quorum. We saw what that was like at the end of last season. So I think the safest of the three is easily Kyrieg Williams. I think the other two have potentially more upside if things worked their way. But obviously just from a who's sharing the least, it's clearly Bruce Hall.

So Hall and love are on terrible offenses right now. I think Hall can get back to being a factor in the passing game. I don't know if he will, but he can. And then clearly he has the potential to be the best runner of this trio because he's already shown it. So I'm hopeful for B. Saul. Now, he's the ranked last of these three for a variety of reasons. But I think just looking at it in terms of everything goes right and nobody is removed from the roster, whether due to injury or personnel changes,

Brise Hall is going to get the most touches of this trio if everything goes in his favor. I'll come back to that. The touches debate after a break. So we'll take a break and then we'll finish up the running backs in this round. Only three. Only love Hall and Kyron Williams. And then we'll talk about a lot of wide receivers going in round three right now. We'll be right back on fantasy football today.

All right. So here's the funny thing about Breece Hall. Breeze Hall for the season. Well, actually, let me say Kyron Williams. Like once Corum started getting involved more, let's go from week seven. I mean, I could even go back to week four for Kyron. Williams. But from week seven on, and including the playoffs,

Kyron Williams averaged 14.9 carries per game. Most weeks, he was right around 13 or 14 carries per game. He had a couple of three weeks with over 20, but 14.8 carries per game for Kevin Williams. Then you go, oh, Breece Hall wasn't really sharing with anyone. Braylon Allen had the season ending injury early. Breeze Hall for the entire season average 15.1 carries per game. and that was dominating carries for the team,

but they just couldn't really run the ball because they stunk, you know? So I don't know, Jamie, when you think of it that way, almost the worst of Kairn Williams was roughly 15 carries per game. And then Brees Hall is more or less the feature back all year was 15.1, 15.2 carries per game. You know, what do you think about that going into 2026? I mean, look, again, he's ranked third of this group. I have it love Kyron Brees.

But the question being upside, I'm not expecting Brees Hall's 2025 to carry over to 2026. I mean, that was, I think, as bad as we've seen for the jets during his time there. So I'm counting on it being a quarterback upgrade. I'm counting on the offensive line being better. They really focused on adding pieces to this offense with two first-round picks. So the hope would be, and again, it's a lot of. hope, but, you know, again, we're talking about the most rosy outcome here, is that we see

Breece Hall getting back involved, not to what he was in his second season, you know, 70-catch guy, but I think he could be a 40-catch guy. And then hopefully getting a couple more touchdown opportunities because the team is better. And then the contract speaks to, okay, this is our guy, you know, because they could have easily said, we're going to let you play it out, the franchise tag, and then we're done with you. Like, this is a guy that they invested in with a team, I think, that's trying to compete in 2027 and beyond. I don't think they're going be a competitive team this year. They'll be better, but they don't think they're a Super Bowl team or even a playoff team. So I just think you look at Breece Hall again. If everything

works out for these guys, as you gave us the caveat, no injuries, he doesn't have to worry about that. I think Kyron needs Blake Korn to be missing time to maximize his potential. And we've seen his points per game go down each of the last three years. And I think in the case of Jeremiah Love, if this is a three-headed monster, it could be awful on a bad team. You know, so while talent-wise, he's significantly better on paper than Tyler Alger and James Connor at this point in his career. Like if Jeremiah Love is losing passing down work to Connor or whatever work to Connor and losing touchdown opportunities Tyler Algier, then we're talking about a trapback.

Now again, looking at upside, I think Jeremiah Love has immense upside. But I think if you say all three, this happens, this happens, this happens, nothing changes personnel wise. Bruce Hall's going to be better than the other two. Okay. That's three different takes. I'm not going to weigh in much, but I think I'll break the tie here. give me Kairn Williams with the most upside.

Last year, the Rams had 24 carries from the three-yard line or closer. The Cardinals had 12 and the Jets had five. So 24 for the Rams, 17 for the Cardinals and Jets combined. It's the touchdowns. But I see all your points. All right, let's go to wide receivers. How many of those did Kyron have? I don't know.

At some point, they split pretty evenly. I remember that. Would you say inside the five? Three. One to three, are lying. All right. Give me a minute. All right.

While you do that, Heath, let's take a look at the wide receivers. I'm going to split the wide receivers up. The first three and the last five. A lot of wide receivers in this round. The first three are Nico Collins, Malique neighbors, and A.J. Brown. The last five are Olave, Devante Smith,

McMillan, Abuka, T. Higgins. Nico neighbors, A.J. Brown, who has the most upside? We're doing this non-interested. injury upside, but how are we dealing with a guy who is currently injured? I'm sorry. Non-injury upside as in non-injury to a teammate upside. So I will say if Malik Neighbors is healthy, I think he has the most upside.

But knowing what you know now, how do you look at their upside now? Because he's not healthy. Right, but we're like five months from any football being, or four months for any football being played. I think it's a really tough question. Three months. and a half months. It's like, how do you have four times?

Four months is depressing. He's missing offseason workouts, though, so he's missing football. Hold on a second. Do we all agree that if neighbors gets a couple of weeks worth of training camp practice that he's got the most upside of the group? I do not. Okay. Because we have enough track record of guys coming off of injuries that there's.

Yeah. Totally fair. Just ask the question. It's Nico for me. I'll just get the conversation started. I said I wasn't going to give opinions. I'm sorry. No, you're fine.

It's Nico for me, too. It's Nico. So, yeah, I think it's Malik neighbors if you can get healthy, and Nico, if you can be healthy for the first time ever. But as things stand now, I think it's hard to really buy into neighbors. I think it's harder to buy in to Nico playing a full season, healthy. Yeah, that's a good point. Why isn't it AJ Brown?

Would none of us said AJ Brown? I think he would be next up for me. Has there a better, I think of this, have there been, do we consider AJ Brown still elite, or near elite, I guess? I think the work, I think the volume will be, no, no, just as a player. As a player, no, it feels like he's going. Okay, I guess let me rephrase it because Devonthe Adams last year wasn't elite. But superstar caliber receiver, changes teams.

Yeah. Has there been a guy that's been bad? Like ever? Great question. Randy Moss? When he went to Oakland? I recall. I would even say Devante Adams when he went to Oakland.

I mean, or Las Vegas, right? He was, I think he had a good year, but it was pretty good. I mean, like, terrible. Has anybody been terrible? Yes. Is he think about like Defonde's goes to Buffalo? He's, you know, he's not an A.J. Brown, he didn't have A.J. Brown's resume at that point. Devonte Adams last year, I mean, you know, not great, but touchdowns were awesome.

Jamie, I'm not ruling out A.J. Brown is still an elite player. I mean, yeah. He was playing hurt. all of last year on a bad offense that. And he had that stretch, but he was over 19 points per game. It was like a six game stretch. And now he's going to Drake May, you know?

I mean, when you look at the passing numbers for the Texans, sorry, I shouldn't just assume he's going to England, but if he does, the passing numbers for the giants who want to run the air out of the ball, the Texans and the Patriots, I mean, it could be a slaughter in favor of the Patriots. I might be changing my answer here. Of course, we have to treat it. He's still listed as on the Eagles, but that's just kind of how I'm seeing it, guys.

Like, these are three tremendous receivers that should dominate targets for their teams, but the pie is much bigger. That's an expression you use a lot, Heath, like the pie is bigger. I think you kind of use that in terms of targets. But if we just look at in terms of yards and touchdowns, I think it's going to be much bigger for the Patriots than would be for the Giants or Texans. Yes. Yeah.

Bigger. I don't think it's going to be, I don't think the gap will be as big as it was last year. Like I've said before, I don't think Drake May is going to repeat his efficiency from last year. I agree, but man, they have, their schedule was so easy last year. It's a lot harder this year, especially the first four games. I forgot to know it. I send you guys an article, great article on CBS Sports.com with all these schedule notes. The Patriots have, I don't know, one of the hardest first four games ever or something like that.

So I think they probably got to have to throw more. All right. So you got different answers there. Nico Collins or maybe Malik neighbors if he's healthy. Let's go to the last five in this group. Olave, Devante Smith, Teteroa McMillan, Ameca, Abuka, and T. Higgins. Olave, Devante Smith, McMillan, Abuka, T. Higgins.

Dave, who has the most upside? First of all, these are the receivers ranked 12 through 16 in my PPR rankings. So I find that kind of amusing. I've got Abuka the highest of the group. We've seen him get a lot of targets already as a rookie on a team with Mike Evans. And then when Godwin came back, he was still getting a good target share. I hate that he got banged up and that Baker got banged up and it harpooned the year that Abuka was building last year.

But we saw enough from him to recognize that he is a great talent who should command a lot of targets. It's a close call for me as far as upside goes between him, McMillan, who could also command a lot of targets, and DeFonte Smith, who I'd be worried a little bit about target volume, but not efficiency with Philadelphia because they don't throw a lot. But Abuca is the one I'm drafting first from this group of five. I also have your Rams carries inside the three update for those who still give a damn about Kyron versus Kauram.

All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Real quick on that. Kyrin had 13 carries inside the three, scored seven touchdowns. Blake Corum had nine carries. is inside the three, he scored four touchdowns. Stafford had the other two carries, no touchdowns.

So you said Abuka's ranked highest, but did you say he has the most upside? Highest because he has the most upside. Olave, Devante Smith, Tetero McMillan, Abuka, T. Higgins. Jamie, who has the most upside? It's Abuka. You know, again, what we saw in the first four games last year is, you know, something that I'm hoping is replicated to a degree because Evans is gone, because Godwin's a year older, because, because, because.

I mean, there's just a lot to like about the situation here for him. And so hopefully Zach Robinson, the new offensive coordinator recognizes the talent that Abuka has. And, you know, the fact that the Bucks, thinking ahead, drafted him with a first round pick last year with, I think, the idea of him being the leader of this group or one of the leaders of this group this year. I kind of feel the same way about the trio of running backs that we talked about. To me, T. Higgins is the safest, just because we've seen him, you know, be at this level. For the most part, he's got the most touchdown upside. he's shown that, you know, 21 touchdowns his last few years. So I think he's the safest

of this group. But in terms of I think reaching another gear and hopefully doing it for a full season, I think it's a boca. Heath? Yeah, I think it's a buca. I've got a lot, he's not first, second, or third

for me in the rankings of this group. I have a lot of concerns about his floor and the Tampa Bay offense in general. But if we get good Baker, then I think there's a very good chance that Abuka just has a fantastic season. So I think he has the highest upside.

Man, Devante Smith, I always say, like, Devante Smith, when either A.J. Brown or Dallas Goddard hasn't been there. He basically performs like wide receiver 12 overall. And that's almost all of that is no Dallas Godder. There's not been a lot of no A.J. Brown games, I think three. Three games. You've been 14.7 points or more in all three.

And I think he's averaged eight or nine targets per game. So that's exciting. And then Higgins had a season two years ago, 2024. He averaged 18.7 PPR fantasy points per game because he had 10 touchdowns in 12 games. But there's the possibility of Joe Burrow throwing 45 touchdowns. So all, all. We all set a Bucca? Yep.

Cool. Let's move on to round. Oh, there's one tight end in this group. It's Brock Bowers. There's no quarterbacks in round three. currently on our ADP, Brock Bowers. Does Brock Bowler, is there any wide receiver or running back I mentioned that has more upside than Brock Bowers?

Love, Hall, Kyron, Nico, neighbors, A.J. Brown, Olave, Devante Smith, McMillan, Abuka Higgins. Anyone have more upside than Bowers? The only two for me would be Nico and A.J. Brown, but I don't have it ranked that way. Okay. I think it depends on whether you're talking about, like, upside in terms of the total number of fantasy points they could score or upside in terms of compared

to replacement cost at their position. Because I think upside in terms of the total number of fantasy points scored, most of the wide receivers have more upside. Correct. Right. Right. Makes sense. Okay, let's go to round four. Round four, we got five running backs. Cam Scadaboo, Travis E.T.N.,

Javante Williams, Quinshan Judkins, and Bucky Irving. Just had a recent report about how the not necessarily what the split will be, but how the Bucks will split touches in the backfield, but Bucky Irving will be the main guy. But Scataboo, E.T.N.

Javante Williams, Quinshaw Judkins, Bucky Irving. Dave, you can start. Who has the most upside? This is a tough one because you can make a case for almost every single one of these running backs. And I think if we're, if we're removing injury, I think I'd lean on Scataboo. We saw the six-game sample from last year. We know that he's usable as a pass catcher.

We know that John Harbaugh has definitely been entrenched as a let's run the ball type of coach and commanding that from the offense. They're already talking like they want him to help shoulder that huge workload. I think he probably has the highest ceiling without considering injury at all. Jamie, who has the most upside? Cam Scataboo, Travis E. TN, Javante Williams, Quinshawn Judkins, Bucky Irving.

Yeah, I think Dave said it best. You can make a case for all these guys, especially if the Saints move on from Alam Camaro. But I'm going to go with the two sophomores. I have Scataboo ranked ahead of Judkins. But you want to see hopefully these guys are back at 100%. Judkins has looked great by all accounts. So that's fun to see.

But we saw Scataboo last year in that stretch of games, that's, you know, that small sample size. but those six games over 19 PPR points per game. And I think that's, you know, something that he could hopefully get close to with a full workload in this offense with now, you know, John Harbaugh is the head coach. Because what Harbaugh has done, and, you know, we talked about this a lot when Derek Henry was going for Tennessee to Baltimore,

he wins. And so anytime you have a situation where the team is ahead, there's going to be a lot of opportunities to run the ball. I think he'll be involved in the passing game. So I give a slight edge to Scadabu over Judkins, but those are my two favorites. He's on pace for 60 catches if you take out. the two games. Scadaboo played 21.2% or fewer of the snaps. That's really a lot.

Heath, who has the most upside in the group? Again, it's Scadaboo. E.T.N. Javante, Judkins, Bucky. I would go with the two sophomores also, but I'll lean Judkins, of course, because I'm the Judkins guy. I think he's just a slightly better runner than Cam Scadaboo. And I think the receiving production you saw from Scadabu last year is probably going to shrink drastically with Malik neighbors back and Isaiah likely on the team. Do you guys think Javante Williams, I'm sorry to keep repeating it, I know if you're watching, it's easy to follow along. If you're listening, I don't know how easy it is to remember the five guys we're talking

about it all times, but it's Scataboo, Judkins, E.T.N, Javent, Javent, and Bucky Irving. Do you think Javante Williams leads this group in snaps, or at least Snapshare? If Camara still in New Orleans, yes. It's either him or Quinnshon. I'm going to go with Quinshaw. Really? Yeah. So Javante, they don't use him much on passing downs?

I mean, I know he's not. Okay. I don't even know what the snapshot was for Javante last year. Yeah, take a look. I'm looking at it now. It looks like for the season, well, he had a couple of games later in the year where he didn't play as much. 68% for the year the first 13 games of the season

he was at 75%. Wow. That's a big number, right? Yes, the 75% I don't think Judkins can get to that. If it's the 68% then I'd like his chances a little better. So, and then you think about the argument

not the discussion we just had who has more upside, Kiren Williams versus Bruce Hall and Jeremiah Love, And a perfectly valid argument that Heath made and I seconded said Kyron because of the offense, isn't Javante Williams going to have a lot more opportunities to score than Quinshan Judkins? Yeah. Yes. So why doesn't he have the most upside?

I mean, it's not an easy, I think you take Bucky Irving off this group just because of what the offseason storyline has been and the additions that they made or kept in the case of Sean Tucker. Like all four of the other guys, it wouldn't shock me if they're all in a similar range, if they all have great seasons, if they all take a step forward, maybe not ETIN and step forward, but on the same plane at least,

like they're all in great spots. You know, I think the health and offensive changes or, you know, just managerial changes in New York and Cleveland are going to be huge for the two guys there. And in the case of ETIN, if there's no Camero,

which, you know, even if he's there, it may not matter, but like, you know, the Cowboys offense is clearly going to be one of the best in football for everybody stays healthy. And the Saints are one of the most or one of the best ascending offenses that we saw last year. And I think got better this offseason. So it's, this is probably of the different groupings that you've done. This is probably the toughest one for me just because I, you can make a case for all these guys. So I just kind of gravitate toward the two younger running backs. I think that have a chance to maybe go to another level.

I think what we saw from Giovante last year is he's going to need to score a lot. He should score a lot, but he's going to need to score a lot. His role in the passing game scares me probably more so than anybody else here. And I think we could see a situation where Dallas may not give him the same amount of touches, even though there's not a lot of change in who the second, third, and fourth guy is on the depth chart. But I think they could give a little bit more work to Malik Davis this year just to take something off of Javante's plate. Okay. Let's go to the wide receivers in round four here.

And there are four of them. Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Ladd McConkey. and Luther Burden. Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Ladd-McConkie, Luther Burden. Heath, who has the most upside? I'm going to go with Zay Flowers. Just throw the ball a little bit more, Baltimore,

and let Zay Flowers have a seven-or-eight touchdown season. I think he's a top-10 wide receiver. Dave? I don't know if I believe this, but I'll make the case for Garrett Wilson. Based on last year, based on him having this track record of getting a lot of volume and putting up good fantasy production.

Now, Gino Smith is the quarterback. This is arguably the... the best quarterback that he's had. Is he better than Aaron Rogers? Maybe he's the second best quarterback that Garrett Wilson's ever had. And I know that they added some rookies to the passing game. I still think Garrett Wilson can get a good target share. I'm not necessarily saying that he should be the first one drafted of this group,

but he's the one that might have the most upside based purely on volume. Jamie, who has the most upside? Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Ladd McConkey, or Luther Burden. I agree with Heath that it's flowers. I guess I'll just make the case for Burden because everybody's going to, you know, they'll want to see Burden take a huge step forward, and hopefully he will. But you have 85 vacated targets from DJ Moore. We saw what Burden did at the end of the season in a couple of games when Odunze was hurt,

and he started to get opportunities. I mean, all of his advanced metrics are just off the charts, and Burden has a chance, I think, to be featured in Ben Johnson's offense, and that's the hope. And so can he get to where Garrett Wilson was last season in those five healthy games when he was over 19 p.PR points per game? That's probably a big ask. Can he be more involved in the offense like what we're seeing from Zay Flowers,

last year and the touchdowns hopefully will come for him as well. But I think if everybody hits their ceilings, I don't know if Burden gets to that level of where those other guys can get to. And it's hard to discount what McCongy did his rookie season because he was pretty awesome. But I think Burton has clearly the highest, you know, the biggest room to grow. And he may outgrow those other guys if just he gets those chances to be featured by Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson the season. This, I think, is the toughest one that we've had so far.

Wilson Flowers, McConkey, Burden, who has the most upside. All right, we had two votes for flowers, one for Garrett Wilson, and we'll leave it there. We're going to take a break. There are three non-running-back wide receivers being drafted in this round. We'll talk about their upside when we come back, and then we'll get into round five after this on fantasy football today. Hey, y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up?

That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no what-if. Just style you love and quality you can trust. Visit wayfair.ca. Wayfair, every style, every home. All right, who has the most upside in round four? Well, we've got one tight end and two quarterbacks.

So if you think about them in terms of how they would outperform their position, the value of a replacement, as we just discussed, Drake May, Lamar Jackson, and Colston Loveland. Dave, what's the upside play there? Lamar is the upside play. Not that I love the idea of taking him in round four. I'm sure there will be some leagues where he's taken in round two. But he's the one that could be number one at his position by a multi-fantasy point per game margin.

We're talking potentially 29 to 31 fantasy points per game. That would be well ahead of what Josh Allen's been averaging over the last few years. You would love to have that. I don't think Loveland can achieve something similar to that at Tidon. And I don't think Drake May will come close. It's funny because like Drake May, we've talked about it. But just this historic second year, 8.9 yards per attempt, 72% completion percentage, had a touchdown rate over 6.3%, ran for 450 yards and four touchdowns.

And he was still 80% of what Lamar Jackson's two best seasons have been in terms of fantasy points per game. That's incredible. It's just not even when Lamar's been at his best, there's almost nobody who touched him. Yeah. What a great pick I think this is in round four. Do you guys agree, Lamar Jackson here? I think Dave said he doesn't like it, but that's about where I've got him. I've got him as a late round four pick.

I'd have a hard time taking him in PPR out of like, guys, I'm nervous about it. Other positions, some names, Trayvian Henderson, DJ Moore, Devante. I don't think I'm going to, I'm going to take Lamar over those guys. Okay, okay. All right. But how about this one for a, Do you take neighbors or Lamar if you're drafting today? I'm pretty low on neighbors.

I'm taking neighbors. It's the reason I would take Loveland over the two quarterbacks here too. I mean, look, obviously Lamar is going to outscore the field if he does what he's capable of doing. And clearly if that's the route you want to go, I get it. But, I mean, the fact that Drake May has put himself in this conversation speaks to what this position gives you every year. In some cases, a couple guys is that you find these quarterbacks late. Now, you can say the same thing about Lovelland that you found him late.

But if you hit on the tight end and the tight end is good, it's such a difference maker that you almost want to hope that Loveland is what he's capable of being. I mean, 10 targets per game in his last five games, you know, like that's unheard of for what he could be this year. And now you're taking a player off the field in DJ Moore. You're seeing this, you know, extremely talented first round pick finally started to develop at the end of the season. So, I mean, look, I get Lamar's a great choice. and so is Drake made for that matter, you know, if he does what he's capable of doing now with the hope of A.J. Brown, but

Loveland could be the best tight end in fantasy next year. There's one other thing. Sorry, there's one other thing. Lamar stunk last year. It was pretty obvious. He obviously has the most upside, but he's also got some pretty bad downside. And if you're taking him,

this is why I won't take him in round two or round three, is because that downside could make him a terrible pick. But can I? I feel like there's less downside with Loveland. And so you're weighing between the team at their position. I think there's much more downside with Loveland. But I think in the case of Lamar, like you're not drafting him here with the maybe he's going to be bad. You're drafting him with, okay, I just got the best quarterback in fantasy.

And that's why you're taking him in the spot that you're taking him. I just think that the position's so saturated with talent. Like if you if you're not taking him for his upside, you're taking him just because you think he's the best player there, which I don't know if that's why you want to draft him in that spot. So you said he stunk last year and stinking for him, the first four games, three games of this season, he scored over 33 fantasy points. Then he got hurt in week four.

But he struggled in that game before getting hurt. Came back and scored over 33 fantasy points against the dolphins. And then every week it seemed like he had a new leg injury. He just kept playing hurt. He was obviously injured. But if, you know, he's a guy where, look, if you think Azer stats are stupid, then I'm sorry. But he's the reason they exist.

Lamar Jackson. If you remove injured games and you look at his last eight seasons beginning with his, you know, his breakout as a sophomore, this is Lamar Jackson's points per game in six point per passing touchdown leagues. Removing injured games.

He's played some partial games that have killed his his stats. 32.5, 25.5, 24.2, 24.3, 23.6, 30, and last year was 21.8. So other than last year, he's almost always at least 24 points per game.

And isn't that basically what Drake may average last year? That is. Yes. Yes. 24.4. So I would feel more comfortable with Jackson if they didn't have a new coach. I don't really know what to expect. But, man, he's...

You want to know? I think you should be optimistic about it because they clearly made this decision for Lamar Jackson. But if you look at his last three years with Todd Monkin, his yards per attempt have been eight yards or better. every year. So whether that had to do with Monkin or not, I mean, he had the most efficient seasons of his career with Todd Monkin. I think it was a good marriage. Yeah, but you also have a guy who's a Sean Payton and Ben Johnson disciple. Like, that's a pretty good place to be coming from. Sure. I mean, you know, it doesn't always work. Of course. But, you know, again, they're hopeful. I think that this is, Ma'amara, this is your team. And now you have to go prove that we made the right

decision to move on from a Hall of Fame coach to make it your team. Comment from the chat. Azor stats are the beer goggles of fantasy football. I wouldn't know. Aaron. That's pretty funny. That's a good one, Aaron. All right, round five.

Jamie, you can start. Who has the most upside among the running backs in round five? There are three of them. DeAndre Swift, David Montgomery, Bejel Tootin. And in case any of you miss this, a little disclaimer, we're talking non-injury upside. So, yeah, if DeAndre Swift's the only healthy back, sure, but we expect him to split.

But DeAndre Swift, David Montgomery, Bejel Tootin, who has the most upside, Jamie? I mean, it's Tootin. You know, if he takes over Travis E.N.'s role and is that guy for Jacksonville, like he's going to outscore both of these guys maybe by significant margin. You know, I mean, E.T.N. was awesome last year

while sharing with, you know, Tutin and, you know, to whatever extent, with LeQuint Allen. But I think just looking at the opportunity that Tootin is stepping into, and Liam Cohen's offense, you know, we'll see what Chris Rodriguez does. but if it's just, okay, now Tudan is the guy,

then he's to me the best of this trio by far. Dave. He's ranked third for me, but I agree that he's got the most upside. I agree with that also. He's ranked third for me too. Right. I just,

I'm going to say Swift, just because I don't believe that Tudin has the ability to become a three-down back in Jacksonville. Okay, I like that. I knew you weren't going to say, Do you believe Swift has is going to be a three down back in Chicago after what we saw from a non-guy last? Every other series he will be. Okay, fair point.

This is kind of the Kyran. But that's still a rough split. This is, right? I mean, for you, this is kind of the Kyron argument maybe, too. Like, the bears should have the best offense, except we're not comparing them to the Jets and Cardinals this time. Well, and I think, like, I know it's illegal to talk about this, but I think that one injury could turn Swift into a top 12 running back. I don't think one injury would do that for Tutin. Agreed.

Totally. I mean, again, like, if you're drafting these guys, I don't know how you could draft Tutin ahead of them, barring Liam Coleman come out and saying, this is our guy. He's it, you know, he's never going to do that. And they sign Rodriguez for a reason. And I don't think they're done with their backfield, to be honest. We'll see if there's another player added. But, like, Swift, it's almost like Kyron versus who were the other two?

Breeze Hall and Jeremiah Love. Yeah, I mean, Kieran is by far the safest of those three. And Swift is by far the safest of these three. I don't. Is Kyrin really the safest? Because he doesn't really catch the ball and he splits carries. You're hoping that the touchdowns carry. You're hoping that the touchdowns carry.

Like that's a pretty good. Well, I mean, for what he does when he's scoring 10 touchdowns and getting you 1,400 total yards every season, like you pencil that in for him because that's what he's given you. To me, that's safe. And if something got to perform, it's huge. Yeah, if you're just going to pencil the touchdowns in. Can I give you a point? Point on Montgomery.

Yeah, sure. We talked about how if Monongai gets hurt, Swift has a better pathway to be top 12. If Rodriguez gets hurt, Tutin could be certainly better. I think Montgomery's already on that path. I'm not sure what this coaching staff thinks of Woody Marks. And Montgomery could, I think he's already like clearly the 1A and could be on the field a lot for Houston. And whether or not we agree that he should be in that role or he'll be efficient in that role, that's a different question. but I think he's got it.

And I kind of want people to remember that when you get to the round five range of your draft and you're looking for running backs. I think Montgomery is worthy of the pick there because even if he doesn't have the role that I'm laying out, even if he does share with Woody Marks a lot, I think he is going to be their short yardage guy. And usually that hasn't mattered for Houston, but I think it will start to moving forward. And I think he could end up getting a lot of work in being at least like raw numbers,

good enough to start in fantasy without a second thought. I just am really, and it's probably just because my bias against Houston, but I'm really afraid it's just another old running back that Houston added

right after they fell off the cliff. Well, how did Mixon do? Mixon was great. He was a top goal running back in 2020. I mean, they're not the same player. No. Mixin was still coming off a very good season. David Montgomery's coming off

the worst year of his career. Yeah, it's true. Hey, he got relegated. For a reason. Well, I mean, when you're with Jemir Gibbs, it's easy to be relegated. Yeah. Well, I still like him as a low end number two running back.

Oh, I think that's certainly fair. And I'll take him over Tudin right now. And I mean, I said that already. I won't take him over Swift. I wouldn't take him over Swift. I think when you're drafting David Montgomery, you should be drafting with the idea of you're settling for David Montgomery with the hope that he's still going to score 10 plus touchdowns.

and maybe do a little bit more in the run game, or I shouldn't say maybe, hopefully do a little bit more in the run game than he showed you in Detroit when Gibbs was there. Does he have the upside to be, you know, a 1,200 plus yard rusher and score 12 touchdowns? That's probably a stretch. Can he be a thousand yards and, you know,

eight to 10 touchdowns? I think that's realistic. He averaged four point. That's good for Ryan. Dave Montgomery averaged 4.5 yards per carry last year. I did not even remember that until I just looked it up. But that, you know, it did seem like he was not.

as effective. He had one game where he averaged 12.6 yards per carry at Baltimore. I think that was a Monday night or something. Yeah, Monday night game. But he did average 4.5 yards per carry. Joe Mixon, I think, did that once in his career, twice in his, once in his career. Once. Joe Mixon's average more than 4.1 yards per carry one time

in his career. That's horrible. Yeah, but you can't compare David Montgomery running behind the lion's offensive line to Joe Mixen running behind the Bingle's offensive line. I guess the question is who was better the year before they went to Houston. Was it Joe Mixon, who averaged four yards per carry for Cincinnati or David Montgomery, your average four and a half? Mixon. Okay. Mixon. Mixon never really been an efficient running back. He just gets every touch. Hopefully that's what happens with Montgomery. That's, yeah, that's what you're

counting on. All right, wide receivers in this round. I think we can split these up. Let's see. This is like Thomas happened to do this on the fly. Let's see if you can do this. All right. So there are seven wide receivers in this round. Let's go first four and last three. The first four are DJ Moore, Jalen Waddle, Terry McLaren, and Marvin Harrison, Jr. The last three are Jameson, Alex Pierce, and Romo Dunzee. So again, Heath, the first four are DJ Moore, Jalen Waddle, McLaren, and Marvin Harrison, Jr. Who has the most upside? I could make an argument for any of the four of them. I'm going to make the argument for a guy. I think nobody else Well, I'm going to say Terry McLaren because he should be by far and away the number one target in the offense.

I don't think that Washington's going to be good enough to just run the ball all the time. So I think he could probably not going to see 10 targets game, but he could see nine. We've already seen him have a monstrous touchdown season with Jaden Daniels. I think Terry McLaren could have one more great year. Okay, so it's more Waddle, McLaren, and Harrison. Jamie Heath's vote was for DJ Moore, or was for Terry McLaren. Who's your vote for?

Me, make arguments for almost all these guys. I'll go with Pierce just in terms of upside because you're taking 100 targets away from this offense and they just paid him a billion dollars to be the guy. And so, you know, if he can be the guy... Oh, wait, wait, wait, we're doing it. Sorry, we're just doing the first four. Oh, I'm sorry.

So it's more Waddle, McLaren, and Marvin. Who's the first one? DJ Moore. Oh, DJ Moore. I'll probably agree with Heath and St. McClorn. I think, again, just, you know, Jane Daniels, number one guy. The number two guy is a rookie at best. If not, it's a, you know, retread,

Diami Brown, Van Jefferson, you know, Traylenberg's type guy. It's just, it's not pretty. So McClorn, to me, is the one most upside of that, for some. Dave. Denver didn't give up a first round pick for Jaylen Waddle for nothing. I think they need somebody like him in their offense. He gives them

them, excuse me, I think he gives him speed, he gives them versatility, and I think he's going to lead that team in targets. And it sounds like I'm dying over here, but I promise I'm not. I think he's the one that could be maybe second in this group in targets per game. DJ Moore might have a lead on him in that category, but I love the upside of him

in Denver, getting a bunch of short and intermediate throws from Boe-Nex, along with a couple of deep throws. That's going to happen every single week. And I think he's got top 12 potential in full PPR. And you don't have to draft him that way at all. Okay, Dave, votes for Waddle and Heath and Jamie for McLaren.

Dave, name this movie quote, name the movie. You're not dying. You just can't think of anything good to do. That's Ferris, Buehler. Yeah, one of my favorite seeds. All right, next group. Jamie, you're going to make the case for Alec Pierce, amongst James, Pierce, and Romo Dunesay,

who has the most upside. James and William's Alec Pierce, Roma Dunesay. This is the next three wide receivers going in round five. Pierce. Yeah, I cut you off during your first next question. No, I mean, I said what I need to say. He's going to get a huge opportunity. He got a huge contract.

It's a lot of contingencies. Can he stay healthy? Can Daniel Jones be healthy? Can he, you know, become the alpha of this receiving course? So it's a lot of questions. but I mean the path is as easy as it comes. You know, you look at the other two guys. I mean, Odunze might be better than Luther Bird and Colston level,

and he might be the third option. Jameson Williams is getting as tight end of friendly coaches you could find and, you know, has Leporta coming back healthy and Amarra St. Brown is still there and, you know, loses touchdowns unfortunately to Isaac Tesla and has the best running back in fantasy. So there's just a lot of things working against him. So Pierce is, you know, in terms of upside, again, don't have it ranked this way, But Pierce, in terms of upside, is the, to me, the clear answer here.

Heath, James and Williams, Alex Pierce, Roma, Dunesay. He's got the most upside. I will go with Roma Dunesay. As I said earlier, I have Loveland Burden and a Dunezay all at 126 targets. If one of these guys becomes the clear number one, then any of them could have an immense amount of upside. And it was just four games, but he was on pace for 85 catches, 1258 yards, and 21 touchdowns at the start of last year. and wasn't healthy in the second half. So maybe Romadunze is healthy and the number one wide receiver.

He's not the guy I draft the highest, but I think he has the most upside if he turns into their number one. Dave. It's O'Donzee, and he is the one that I would draft the highest of these three. Jameson actually worries me because we've done a lot of talking about Drew Petson going to Detroit and how he's going to favor the tight ends. I think it's going to happen. It's just his track record and the Lions track record of using

multiple tight ends is going to put Leporta on the field more. It's going to design easier throws for golf to Loporta. There have been very rare occasions where both Leporta and Jameson Williams have had good fantasy games together. I think it's like five times in their careers. So I think that JMA will be the clear number three target getter in Detroit. And it might even be number four. And I feel like Heath has talked about it.

And that's why I just heard that sigh. but I'm getting flashbacks to it. And I'm nervous now. I love the talent that James and Williams has, but I'm nervous about him being a steady fantasy contributor. I think he might be the one that's going to be the most boomer bust of these three. Just over the last three seasons, James' target per out run rate with Leporta on the field

has been 18.2, 18.3, and 14.7%. with Leporta off the field, it was 12.5% in 2020, so it was actually lower, but it was 23.9% in 2024 and 18.8% last year compared to 14.7%% with him on the field.

So that's just a huge split for Jameson Williams, pre and post Sam Leporta, or like with Leporta and without Leporta last year. Okay, so Alec Pierce for Jamie, O'Dunzee for Heath and Dave. and the two non-running backs or wide receivers in this group are Tyler Warren and Joe Burrow. Agree or disagree. Joe Burrow has more upside than any player in this round.

Same with Lamar. It's the same argument, yes. Yeah. Relative to position, obviously, because he's going to outscore everyone. Yep. Heath, you don't seem as convinced. Well, I'm just trying to think of, like, what do I think the best, like, LeBron, I think, or LeBron, might as well. Oh.

Lamar could Nobody can argue. He could score 30 points per game. Yeah. I don't really think Burrow could score 30 per game. Nah. 28?

That's how I was trying to decide. How about 27? I think he gets 27. That's what he had in 2024. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably still the most of him in this group. Well, certainly it's the most,

but is it the most, you know, relative to position, I guess. I mean, he could be a top three player to his position. these other guys can. So we didn't say DJ Moore with the most upside. Is any, like no one feels a Stefan Diggs 2.0 coming for DJ Moore,

like going to Buffalo? He's the one I would draft first because I do think that there's upside, but I don't think there's as much upside as some of these other guys. Okay. We also have a poll question in the chat on YouTube, and it is, let's see, where's that poll? Who has the most patience? Adam, Jamie, Dave, or Heath?

It's very close at the top, except for me. I have getting 12% of the vote. And the three of you are all getting 28 to 31% of the vote. The current winner, the current leader, is the guy I voted for. Who has the most patience, Dave Richard? I would have voted for Heath. I think the poll results accurately reflect. I don't think between Dave and Jamie and I,

there is a consistent everyday answer. There's some days I might be the third most patient. Nobody on us three's ever last. Some days I might be third. Some days I might be second. Some days I might be second. I think I should be second to last, to be honest with you. It's between the other old heads on this show.

Well, I would say, you know, my, maybe my biggest, the thing I'd like to change most about myself is I wish I were a more patient person. I'm working on it. I've gotten better, but it's definitely a big weakness of mine. And I think we'd agree,

the only negative. So anyway, that's, that's it for today's show, and now my percentage has gone down to 11%. Even less patient than I was before. My vote. I'm getting less patient with you finishing the show. You have to be patient with me finishing the show.

I don't know, but you're 17, and I still can't finish the show. We have FFT Express to record soon. That will air. Oh, usually it air is Tuesday. I don't know. Thomas, when's it going to air? Tuesday, Wednesday? Yeah, Wednesday.

Wednesday. Okay. We do have another show tomorrow and Thursday, and we thank you all for watching and listening. Just going to sit here and just patiently exit. All right, we're out of here. See you later, everybody. Talk to tomorrow.

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