Fantasy Football Today - News, Mailbag, Fantasy Cops! (11/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 5, 2022

We've got news updates (3:00) on Jonathan Taylor, Chuba Hubbard, D'Andre Swift and many more. Find out who you should start and sit! Then we'll read your Apple Podcast questions (8:40), get the Fantas...y Cops out (21:00) to settle your league disputes, read your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com (32:00) and answer your YouTube questions (39:30).  Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Yo, it's mailbag time. Your email is at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That is the letter I, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That is the letter I, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. And your Apple Podcast questions,
Starting point is 00:02:09 always a great way to get your question answered on the show, and your YouTube comments, and the fantasy cops. And I'm Adam Azer with senior fantasy football writer, Jamie Eisenberg, and bad friend, Dan Schneier. Welcome to the show. What makes me a bad friend? You've hurled a lot of insults my way, most of them true, but what makes me a bad friend? I've heard a lot. You've hurled a lot of insults my way, most of them true,
Starting point is 00:02:27 but what makes me a bad friend? That one is false. I've done things for you and you haven't held up your end of the bargain. It's disappointing. We'll have to talk about this after the show. No, we'll talk about it right now. That's why I intro'd the show with it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Okay. He was talking about this on Friday's podcast, so this has been on his mind for a while. I was? That's not true. I'm very confused. You said at the end of the show, I said, is there a mailbag? And you said, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I'm going to tell everybody why Dan's a bad friend. Oh, OK. Yeah, that's true. You are a big Nicolas Cage fan, you say. I recommend the Nicolas Cage movie to you. You watch 15 minutes of it. You love it. You turn it off.
Starting point is 00:03:01 You don't watch it again. You're a classic rock fan. Don't talk about this Aerosmith playlist. You made it one week ago. Am I supposed to have some time to listen? You give me a one week ticking timer. Like tick, tick, tick, tick. You went on a trip.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You traveled. I made you an Aerosmith playlist. No, you sent that to me post-travel. I didn't travel. You made him a mixtape? I made him a Spotify playlist of aerosols. You made him a mixtape? This relationship is on a different level. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I feel rejected right now. It's been a week and he hasn't listened. You should not feel rejected. It's only been a week. I haven't been on a trip. I have a commute to New York City tonight, and I will listen to the playlist during that commute. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Excellent. Excellent. What are the songs on this mixtape? It's just all the classic Aerosmith rock. Is this like the Friends mixtape where Chandler gave it to Monica, but he never listened to it?
Starting point is 00:03:53 The one he made for Janice? I have a little from Janice. Friends? Not a great show, Friends. Forget it. Don't do it, Jamie. Don't give it. We got a lot of news to update you on here. Jonathan Taylor is out. They got the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Chuba Hubbard is out. I'm hearing an echo, by the way. Dan, are you not listening through headphones? Is that what's happening? I did forget to put them on. You've got the mixtape in the background. Why are you saying mixtape in such a weird way, by the way? You're emphasizing the tape. You got the mixed tape.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's very weird. All right, Dan, you got to fix that. By the way, I'm weird? You made your coworker a mixed tape? It is a little weird. I get it. All right, Jonathan Taylor is out. He's week to week right now.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Phillip Lindsey is likely to be called up from the practice squad. Don't expect much from Zach Moss, if anything. Chuba Hubbard is out. JD McKissick is out. So, Jamie, rank Deion Jackson, Antonio Gibson, and Deontay Foreman. Foreman, Gibson, Jackson. Foreman, Gibson, Jackson. Dan, agree or disagree?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Foreman, Gibson, Jackson. Foreman's a clear one. I'll start there. I've been big on Gibson, and I do think the matchup's a little better than Jackson. I don't think we're going to see as much pass volume for Jackson, so I have to stick with this. Foreman, Gibson, Jackson. Are you starting all of them ahead of DeAndre Swift,
Starting point is 00:05:13 who will say they're going to put him out there and see where he's at? Yes. God, it's so hard to bench the studs, but right now he can't even call him a stud when he's not getting the kind of volume he's not getting, especially around the goal line. So yeah, I would agree. And Jamie, how about Jamal Williams
Starting point is 00:05:31 in this group of Foreman, Gibson, Jackson? If DeAndre Swift is out, Williams would be first. If Swift is going to play to whatever capacity, I would put him behind Foreman, but ahead of everybody else. Okay. Ryan Tannehill is a game time decision Minnesota defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson is out even better news for Antonio Gibson
Starting point is 00:05:52 Arizona they were out without three starting offensive linemen last week on Friday two of them did not practice or were not seen at the open portion of practice but left tackle DJ Humphries did practice Colts are getting quitty payback this week. Cincinnati's going to be not only without Chidovia
Starting point is 00:06:08 Wuzier, but also Mike Hilton and Trey Flowers. Another cornerback is questionable. Alan Lazard and Christian Watson have not been cleared yet. Let's say they're trending in the right direction, but we won't know until Sunday on those guys. Tampa Bay is going to be without Antoine Winfield. They're starting safety. Getting a little healthier in the secondary, but they're not getting Winfield
Starting point is 00:06:24 back against the Rams. Russell Gage and Cameron Braid are out. Should we talk about Kate Otten? Should we talk about Kate Otten? No? No. I would try to avoid him. The Rams are just absolutely phenomenal against tight ends.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Otten is forgotten. Buffalo safety Jordan Poyer is out. Matt Milano and Von Miller practiced on Friday. So we've told you a bunch of times now. Milano's out. It's good news for the tight ends. Devontae Parker mispracticed. Damian Harris mispracticed again on Friday with an illness.
Starting point is 00:06:54 You're going to start with Andre Stevenson regardless, but me oh my if Harris doesn't play. And New England center David Andrews continues to mispractice. Those are your news and notes. Let me tell you about our app. The CBS Sports app is the best. All right. It's so many sports going on right now. And you can follow it all on the CBS Sports app. And also, we've got a pick them contest for you that you can play on the app or you can play at CBS Sports dot com slash play. Go to CBS Sports dot com
Starting point is 00:07:22 slash play and our our football pick them contest, you can get into that, show off your knowledge, you can hit the jackpot. Sorry, one second here. There's some details of this that I need to read to you that I am struggling to find because my document is not working. But anyway, if you go to cbssports.com slash play or you click the more menu from the CBS Sports app, you can play our uh pick them contest and see the rules for details and there i think there are some disclaimers that i was supposed to have read let me get the exact read here just so i don't you know get in trouble but in the meantime um jamie talk to dan about something uh dan so when you listen to the
Starting point is 00:08:01 mixtape yes where will you be set the scene for us when you're listening to this mixtape yes yes yes i'll be on the nj nj transit rolling in knowing nj transit it'll be about 18 minutes off schedule so i'll be standing there waiting for that to come in a little extra time to listen to the mixtape then you go through the tunnel you lose reception so i guess i have to download adam's mixtape before i go in on spotify because it's very important i have to listen to this mixtape and at the same time before the next show jamie i have to also watch matchstick men the movie that adam suggested there's a lot to do now when you're when you're listening to the mixtape on on the the new jersey transit will you be like you know bobbing your head you know yes that's that's the hope adam claims that it's
Starting point is 00:08:43 good rock classic rock guitar and that remains to be seen it's a hope. Adam claims that it's good rock, classic rock guitar. And that remains to be seen. It's a claim that Adam made that Chris Towers himself laughs off and others that I posted about Chris. So for our YouTube audience, for our YouTube audience, put yourself, get yourself in the mood. You listen to the music right now. Give us an example like how you'll be enjoying it, like your physical demeanor as you're listening to the tape. So it depends if it depends what kind of head bobber it is. Look, if we get good guitars going good, classic rock guitars, you're going to get a little bit of this,
Starting point is 00:09:10 a little bit of that, you know, just a little bit of movement all around, just kind of loosen up, you know, as you know, we have rhythm, our people have rhythm, Jamie. So there'll be a lot of rhythm on that. The important thing is not making noise though. Cause you know, people get really crazy if you're on a train and you make any kind of, are you a, are you an air drummer and air guitar? I could do a little air guitar on the train. That's a no, not on the train. Train rules are very different. You have to subscribe to a very common set of expectations on a train.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I know, I know Adam a long time. He's done some weird things to me, but maybe a mixtape before. I'm a little dull. It's a Spotify playlist. It's not a mixtape anymore. No, no, no. It's a mixtape. Don't ruin what the-
Starting point is 00:09:53 It's a mixtape. The first song on the mixtape is Same Old Song and Dance, and I know you're going to absolutely love that song. It is maybe my favorite Aerosmith song. Enjoy it. Okay. Let's go to our Apple Podcast questions.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcast. And after you tell everybody why you love our show, go ahead and ask us a question, and we will get to it. But the first one is actually a Fantasy Cops Apple Podcast review. And it is from Die Hard is a Christmas Movie, and we're apparently starting that nonsense already.
Starting point is 00:10:24 From a South Shore town on Long Island. And it is from Die Hard is a Christmas Movie. And we're apparently starting that nonsense already. From a South Shore town on Long Island. You know South Shore of Long Island, Dan? Not particularly. Me neither. I began the motions of trading away my star players in a keeper league. One league mate was interested in Patrick Mahomes. He offered a fifth round pick and Aaron Rodgers for Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I texted the group chat saying, who is going to beat the offer? And I listed the details of the proposed trade. The trade partner then lost it, said I should never conduct myself in that way and that he would never. He went as far as calling it a low and shady move. I see this as doing business. Was I wrong to share the details of the proposed trade to the group chat? Does he need to calm down? This is an auction, not a first come, first serve.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Of course this guy was wrong, and you were right. This is what great managers do. Far too often in leagues, I see trades processed, and then everybody goes, oh my God, this guy got so little for what, and then he's like, well, this is all I could get. And then you ask him, did you shop it around? And he says, no, not really. Like, you know, and he doesn't shop it around or she doesn't shop it around. So it's important to shop it around and you could go individually and text every league
Starting point is 00:11:33 mate, but this is kind of an easier way to do it. You just text the group chat and then someone will probably individually message you if they're actually interested. I'm sure the other conversations for the next few trades went to individual chat. So I got no problem with this. I think this guy did it. I think he did a great job here. What do you think, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:11:51 I would agree. I don't think there's a problem with it. It's a little obnoxious, but I don't know if there's anything wrong with it. Why is it obnoxious, though? Well, you would like to have, like, if you make a trade offer to someone, wouldn't you like, oh, Cooper Cup's going to play this week, just that breaking right now. Daniel Lewis is going to fight.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Daniel Lewis is going to fight. So wouldn't you like to have a little bit of, like, a window of exclusivity? It's just, I don't know, you're kind of putting yourself out there by making a trade offer. It's not so everyone else can see what the trade offer is. I don't think that's really a very proper way to conduct yourself. I don't think NFL GMs would do that. I think they do do that, no? You don't think they bring really a very uh proper way to conduct yourself i don't think nfl gms would do that i think they do do that no you don't think they bring the offers they've gotten i think that's exactly how we saw how do you think chase claypool went for his early second round pick
Starting point is 00:12:33 because they probably dangled the packers are willing to trade their later second can you beat this trade and so chicago said yeah we got an earlier pick in the second round take our side of the deal. Maybe. All right. I guess it's fine. All right. This one is we have more fantasy cops later. This one is from Carlos. Olave or Chris Godwin this week and rest of season.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Olave for both. I like Olave this week. The rest of the season is tougher for me. I'm going to go Godwin rest of season. I O love a Olave. Do the rest of the season's tougher for me i'm gonna go godwin rest of season i oh love a olave do you oil of olave that's the dumbest name ever isn't it terrible jamie why did he ever think that was good and he was so proud of it to begin with you don't even know what oil of ole is the point of why it's so bad sometimes things are niche funny. Niche to who? To people who like skincare. This is from GiantGman2.
Starting point is 00:13:31 We like this guy. Full PPR, 10 team. Gabriel Davis, Antonio Gibson, or Raheem Mostert at the flex? I'm Davis, but I'm swinging a little higher upside there. I can see why that's too boom or bust. Where are you at there, Jamie? I'm Davis, but I'm swinging a little higher upside there. I can see why that's too boom or bust. Where are you at there, Jamie? I'm curious. No, I think that's the right play if you think you need the extra points because if he hits, he'll be bigger than these two guys. If not, I'd probably go Mostert just because the matchup's so good.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Dare I say that even if Gabe Davis does it, he will be bigger than Gibson and Mostert. He's bigger than just about everyone. Gibson's a big dude. Yeah, I don't know about that. I think Gibson's like 6'3 or 6'4, so I'm not so sure about that. You think Gibson is bigger than Gabe Davis? No, no. Okay. I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:12 about that. Even the 6'3 thing is probably wrong. Come on now. Alright, this is from Medic Nick. Pick two running backs and one wide receiver in full PPR. AJ Dillon, Kenyon Drake, Caleb Huntley, and we still don't know about Patterson. Two running backs there. Dillon, Kenyon Drake, Caleb Huntley, and we still don't know about Patterson. So two running backs there,
Starting point is 00:14:27 Dylan, Drake, Huntley. Drake is the safest if there is no Gus Edwards. But I think this is a week that AJ Dillon gets on track. The Lions are so bad against the run. Yeah, if you're not going to play AJ Dillon this week,
Starting point is 00:14:43 you might as well release him, in my opinion, or you just keep him in case Jones gets hurt. But I agree. I think you you're not going to play A.J. Dillon this week, you might as well release him in my opinion, or you just keep him in case Jones gets hurt. But I agree. I think you have to go Dillon in this matchup. I was thinking about this
Starting point is 00:14:52 earlier, though. You go back to that three-game stretch. Oh, they got the Giants this week. They're going to be able to run the ball. No Leonard Williams.
Starting point is 00:14:59 No, he stunk. And they lost. They got the Jets, but they got the Jets coming up. They're going to crush the Jets. They're going to run the ball. He's going to score.
Starting point is 00:15:06 No, he's stunk. Oh, but wait, we got Washington the following week. He's going to be great there. He hasn't been good since week one, A.J. Dillon. Yeah, and a big issue with that is that the game script hasn't really been in their favor, and I'm not so sure. They're three-and-a-half-point favorites over Detroit. That line, I think, moved down to three,
Starting point is 00:15:22 so that line's moving in the wrong direction from a game script standpoint. So, yeah, I think, moved down to three, so that line's moving in the wrong direction from a game script standpoint. So yeah, I can see the case against it, too. And then we need a wide receiver. Palmer or Pittman? Palmer. Yeah. It's closer for me, but I think just given the injury situation with Los Angeles, I'll go
Starting point is 00:15:39 with Palmer, and I just trust that passing game so much more. This is from Nalu. RB2 and a flex play. Let's see. Barkley's on a bye. He needs an RB and a flex. He has Damian Harris, Rashad White, Darnell Mooney, and Drake London. And I don't have
Starting point is 00:15:55 the format here. That matters quite a bit, actually. It does. Okay, if Damian Harris doesn't play, then obviously you go White. If Harris plays, you go Damian Harris doesn't play, then obviously you go white. If Harris plays, you go Damian Harris or Rashad White. Harris for me. That's the best bet
Starting point is 00:16:11 you can do? If it's PBR, you go white, actually. I should say that. I just wonder, with their bye week coming up, how much will they play Damian Harris if he's not on the team? It's risky. They're both risky. I don't think white has a problem. Honestly, I might look at something like Justice Hill. That's not on the field. True. It's risky. They're both risky. I don't think White has more. Honestly, I might look at somebody like Justice Phil.
Starting point is 00:16:28 That's not a bad idea. We really haven't talked about him. It's a good call. Or Caleb Conley. No, Patterson. Yeah. Darnell Mooney or Drake London at flex? Mooney for me.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Mooney. Travis in Omaha has a start or sit question. Standard scoring league. Would you start either Connor or Eno Benjamin over DJ Moore? No. No way. Not with the secondary being a mess for the Bengals like this. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And with the rapport now developing between Walker and Moore. Sean McVay, by the way, saying he doesn't know if Kyron Williams will be activated this week. Okay. Grade the trade for a team that's three and five. Keeper League. I give up Stefan Diggs and Carter, Michael Carter. Michael Carter, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:19 For Justin, I don't know, is that Khalil Herbert or Justin Herbert? I think it's Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert. Lamb and Pierce. So Diggs and Michael Carter for Justin Herbert, CeeDee Lamb, and Damian Pierce. I guess without knowing the keeper rules,
Starting point is 00:17:39 we just can assume that all of them can be kept. I don't really know the prices. I'm just assuming it's no prices. You just get to keep them for the round. So just take the trade straight up value. Herbert Lamb Pierce versus Carter and Diggs. You got to take the trade. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah, it's just too much value with, man, Damien Pierce is in this too. You have to take this. Pierce alone puts it over top for me. All right, grade the trade from no name here. Sorry. All right, grade the trade from... No name here, sorry. All right, four and four fantasy manager. I traded away
Starting point is 00:18:10 Melvin Gordon, Latavius Murray, and Brandon Ayuk for Jamar Chase. Obviously, this is a great trade. A. Oh, it's Christian
Starting point is 00:18:20 Atlanta. Especially if you're in the playoffs. Well, he's four and four. Well, he is only four and four. It's a little risky. He's got a great roster, though.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's still worth the risk regardless to me. Yeah, I agree. Okay, this is from I'm Good on Weeks. I want to be bad. Okay. Grade the trade. I have no idea what that means. Grade the trade.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Give up Jonathan Taylor and Julio Jones. Get Michael Carter and DJ Moore. Jonathan Taylor and Julio Jones get Michael Carter and DJ Moore. Jonathan Taylor and Julio Jones for Michael Carter and DJ Moore. I will say that's an A. Really? I'm going to go B. Who knows how long Taylor's at at this point. Yeah, it's just such a bad situation with Taylor.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Even when he's back, that offensive line is not what it was or anywhere close. Passing game is somehow going to be worse without Matt Ryan, with Ellinger. Hard to get excited at all about Taylor beyond just the name brand. Ellinger. Can I call him Ellinger? Yeah. I'm not so sure you're right about that.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Okay, I'm 100% sure that I'm right about it, but that's okay. Says the man who's allergic to caramel. You want to have a milk drinking contest there? I can't. I told you. Wow, you guys are so crazy. Jamie, do you drink cow's milk, Jamie? Directly from the cow?
Starting point is 00:19:40 No, just in general. Have you moved to oat or almond yet? No, I drink cow's milk, yes. Yeah, you don't have to call it cow's milk. You just call it milk. Cow's milk is cow's milk. I've never heard that before. People like us who have trouble processing cow's milk
Starting point is 00:19:56 have to refer to it as cow's milk. Okay. Here's from GHJJHGGY... 10-team PPR league. Grade the trade. It's super flex. Kirk Cousins, Jalen Hurts, and Justin Jefferson. Whoa. Giving up Cousins, Hurts, and Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Getting Mahomes, Evans, and Eckler. And I still have Tom Brady and Kyler Murray on my team. This is a wild trade. So he's got Brady and Murray behind. It's a win. Two quarterbacks for one. But jefferson's in the deal and getting eckler and evans in my homes he's the win it's a b plus okay yeah you have to do it just given your quarterback situation i don't love going from jefferson to eckler but it doesn't matter yeah it's like going
Starting point is 00:20:40 from cow's milk to almond milk or something like that for you i'm sure it's not a great transition it's like going from cow's milk to almond milk or something like that for you, I'm sure. It's not a great transition. It's just out of necessity, Adam. Okay. What would you say? Jamie, you would take Jefferson over Eckler. You would have drafted Jefferson over Eckler? No, but now I would take him over him the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Why? What's wrong with Eckler? Eckler's the freaking man. Eckler's great, but I just feel like there's a longer track record of Jefferson dominating on a week-to-week basis, which is stupid to say because Eckler's now done it for two straight years or a year and a half. By the way.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I feel more confident in Jefferson. David A. calling you out. Food snobs. David A. is always up my butt. David A. hates you. It's so funny. David A. hates me. But he tunes in just to hear Dan Schneier.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, exactly. He just loves it. All right, we're taking a break. When we come back, more Fantasy Cops and your emails and your YouTube questions. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. What does possible sound like for your business? It's having the spend that powers your scale with no preset spending limit. More cash on hand to grow your business with up to 55 interest-free days.
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Starting point is 00:22:39 Send an email to FantasyFootball at CBSi.com and put Fantasy Cops in the subject line. This is actually from Apple Podcast. From Not Upset, Just Disappointed, please read Fantasy League in shambles. In my league, I was offered Jerry Judy for Kareem Hunt. After the trade deadline, I accepted the deal that we recently changed our league to no vetoes and trades are instant.
Starting point is 00:23:07 After some disagreement about a veto, that clearly was not collusion. So the manager texted me and said that he didn't know that trades went through right away. Apparently, he also complained to the commissioner and the trade was reversed. This seems like Bush League. As a response, I dropped all my players
Starting point is 00:23:23 and made a terrible trade of Christian McCaffrey, Travis Kelsey, and A.J. Brown for Gerald Everett. I was prepared to quit the league because this is not the first instance of an in-season rule change and then a reactionary move by a commissioner. How should the commissioner be punished? What would you have done in this situation?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Should we vote him out as commissioner and lock his team? Can I ask a question? Because we get this a lot when people are upset and they drop all their players. Vol tilt. As the commissioner of several leagues, all I would do is, and it's a pain in the ass, but all I would do is just take all those players, put them back on the roster, and either that roster is now defunct and you're just playing it out with their best starting lineup or you find somebody else take over that
Starting point is 00:24:09 team you're doing nothing nothing but causing maybe a 20-minute headache for somebody else yeah but you also get to experience well it's a cathartic experience i'm sure for these managers i've never done something like this i never would but i would imagine it's a bit of a cathartic experience right you just go on full till you You get super angry. You just drop it. I hear I'll get you back. You're not actually doing anything though. Like, no, you're not. It's not like, oh, look,
Starting point is 00:24:31 all these other managers are going to get these players. No. Yeah. You do have that. You were able to process your like dump trade of like Kelsey McCaffrey and all those guys for nothing. And then it processes right through. I would imagine they veto.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I mean, look, I don't agree with the decision to drop all the roster, and I think Jamie brought up the good reasons why it's kind of a fruitless venture. But as far as what the commissioner did here, it's total BS. I mean, and what the manager did is even worse to me. You agree to a trade. You accept the trade. You go to the website.
Starting point is 00:25:01 You put the players in. You click everything. It's all good. And then you say, oh, I thought it would go through some veto process. And now because it didn't go through that process, I want the trade reversed. It's one of the weirdest explanations I've ever heard. It's a lame excuse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And the commissioner just allows this to happen. He manually reverses the trade based on that kind of logic. So what should the punishment be for the commissioner? I don't think you can punish a commissioner. It's not as easily said than done. My advice to you is quit this league. It sucks. I'm kind of with you.
Starting point is 00:25:28 If you don't like it, then you should quit. You shouldn't drop all your players, though, and make terrible trades. This is from Mike in New York. I am the commissioner. Oh, I am the commissioner of a league. And we have a team that has been forfeited by its manager. The manager never paid or joined the league. So now we have a team that has been forfeited by its manager. The manager never paid or joined the league. So now we have a ghost team.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Luckily, we have a league constitution that says in these cases, the team should be set by the commissioner based on projections. This is to make sure some teams don't get a free win on buys while others face a decent team. This week, I forgot to set the lineup on time. Another manager made me aware of this mistake at 3pm, and I used the league manager tools to set the lineup
Starting point is 00:26:10 appropriately based on projections. Well, as you can imagine, the manager going against this team thought he had a free win with half the lineup on buy or injured. When the changes happened, the Ghost team won the week. The losing owner is up in arms about this change and thinks the locked roster should apply.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I think it is only fair to make sure the lineup was set as it should have been. What say you fantasy cops? Should the lineup be edited after locked based on the constitutional guidelines or should the locked mistake stand? Piece of cake. If that's been something you've been doing all along,
Starting point is 00:26:43 it should absolutely stand. The manager who lost should just have to understand that it was a simple mistake. It's not like it happened two days later, like Will Brinson or four days later. If you do it immediately and make it clear to everybody, you know, like we had the situation in our podcast league, Adam, where my co-manager, Todd R Todd Rones mistakenly dropped JK Dobbins off of our, our, our IR spot because he was on vacation in Europe, had spotty internet and hit the wrong button. And I made you aware of it right away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And I, and, and you said totally get it. You sent a message to the league. Nobody said a word. And so as long as everything is on the up and up and you know, everything has been consistent with that scenario, there should be no hesitation. Yeah, I agree. By the way, a couple of tight end updates here. Darren Waller, questionable with a hamstring.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And Josh McDaniels said he's working extremely hard to try to get back as soon as he can. I know that. And nobody wants to play quicker than Darren does. That doesn't sound great. And also Mark Andrews mispractice again today. This is from Tyler. Last one here. I sent in a trade for Amandra St. Brown in my
Starting point is 00:27:51 10-team half PPR league after Hawkinson got traded. I offered Pittman and Khalil Herbert to the Montgomery manager. I texted the guy first asking him if he would accept and he took a screenshot and sent it to the first place guy in my league who is his best friend. Me and the screenshot recipient are
Starting point is 00:28:11 the top two teams in the league. The guy I'm trading with is second to last. He declined the trade because he doesn't pay attention at all and he left the decision completely to his buddy and also my top competitor who told him not to do it. Is that collusion? Should my trade partner have made the decision for himself? Any consequences or warnings and are they needed? All right. So he sends a trade offer to this dude who's in second to last place. Dude sends a screenshot of the trade offer to the first place guy.
Starting point is 00:28:37 First place guy says, no, don't do it. So the guy declines. An original trade guy is not happy about it. What do you guys think? So do you guys, would you guys consider it Bush league or, or, or something similar of that nature? If somebody comes to you with a trade offer that they got from somebody else and they ask if you can beat it and then you explain why your offer is better than theirs. Is that unfair?
Starting point is 00:29:00 Cause I'll start by saying that. Cause it's similar to me. If you consider that fair game, then I think it's totally fair game for this other manager to kind of be like, nah, it's not a good trade for you. I don't think it's Bushley because I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:13 you, you just brought up the situation with the, the bears and the Packers in regards to the chase Claypool deal. And I would imagine general manager of one team says to general manager, another team, I got this offer, beat it. And it's yours. You know, I mean, you don't necessarily have to say who the other offers from, you don't necessarily have to say what the, the full parameters you could, you know, sort of fudge a little bit if you have to, but I think if you give the general
Starting point is 00:29:36 consent, general idea of general concept of what the trade is and this, this is what I'm looking at. Like, you know, so i made two trade offers in a league uh last night i didn't say to the other owners what it was but um they were very similar and then one countered and i thought the counter offer was close to what i was willing to spend so i countered again and we made a deal you know so um i don't know if it's necessarily a a bad thing to be you know so transparent because at least you, you're, you're,
Starting point is 00:30:06 this is, you're basically saying to the other, other person, this is what I'm willing to spend, or this is what I'm looking for. If you can beat it, great. If not,
Starting point is 00:30:13 I'll move on. As far as this question goes, you know, like there was, I got a trade offer in a league that I'm in with Jamie and I just wanted his opinion on it so i said what do you think about this trade and now i i wouldn't have just done it or not done it based on what jamie said but i just wanted some input i just figured you know it's kind of like talking talking shop with your buddies that's what you do in a fantasy league hey would you take this trade now you
Starting point is 00:30:40 hope that it's done um the right way where there's no motive there, there's no collusion, there's no, you know, that you would give an honest answer. Yes, you should take that trade or no, you wouldn't do it for personal benefit. It seems like that's kind of happening here. But in general, I don't have a problem with you asking your friend who's in the league advice on a trade. If the guy told you not to do it because it benefited his team, you know, then that's a problem, but I can't say for sure that happened.
Starting point is 00:31:10 So I guess I would just, well, I had that happen in, uh, in our super flex league with the trade I made with, uh, Jack, our producer,
Starting point is 00:31:18 uh, of, of the HQ show and another one of our producers, they were talking about a trade and they asked me in a group chat that we're all together um would you trade justin fields for jonathan taylor in a super flex league and i said i'd rather have fields at this point just knowing where his value is as a quarterback to what taylor is as a running back with the injuries and so then jack replied back make your own make your own decisions.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Later that day, Jack sent me a trade offer for Jonathan Taylor and one of my quarterbacks. I countered with an offer that was accepted. I wasn't giving the advice with the idea. I never knew Jack was going to approach me with a trade. And then the other producer, Mehron, said, oh, I'm glad you used my information against me. I was like, that was not the case at all. I never offered a deal. I was like, that was not a case at all. Um, I never offered a deal. I never, you know, considered a deal. The deal was presented to me and I countered and accepted it. So you can see where these types of things happen, where you can see it, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:13 somebody maybe using it as, as to their advantage. Um, but again, it's just knowing the people in your league and hopefully everybody's trustworthy. Yeah. That's a terrible trade, by the way. That's the key here. Cause in this guy's, in the example we have here, well, that's a whole other situation. But in this example we have here, we have one team that's out of it, and they're not trying anymore, and they're not paying attention. And so that's the other issue. You've got to find people who are willing to kind of play through it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I think you're right. I think in this case, the guy's not paying any attention. He lets another manager by proxy veto a trade. I've got a problem with that. I don't know that you can do much about it, but I have a problem with that. Because this doesn't seem like. It's not vetoing. It's just kind of saying not to accept it. Turn veto a trade. I've got a problem with that. I don't know that you can do much about it, but I have a problem with that because this doesn't seem like vetoing. It's just kind of saying, Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Turn down a trade. This is, this is not two buddies talking shop and making a fantasy football decision. This is one guy. It seems, this seems more the way Tyler is telling it. This seems more like one guy, uh,
Starting point is 00:32:58 by proxy managing another team. And I do have a problem with that. I'm sorry. I got a great offer for you. Uh, I will give you Melvin Gordon for Terr terrence marshall did that happen yeah he gave me melvin gordon i gave him terrence marshall there was other things involved okay other things the reason i hate the trade i don't mind rather if terrence marshall has i'm sure you would now too but like yes the other
Starting point is 00:33:20 part of the trade i gave you a pick back for ken Galladay. Wow. I think that you, I thought you were going to try to trade him the Aerosmith mixtape for a different one. No, no, no. That's not for sure. I got five, I got about five minutes left. I'm sorry. I got to, we got a pediatrician appointment. I got to take blah, blah, blah. I wouldn't bail on the listeners unless I had a good reason. I have a good reason. I'm sorry. I got to cut the show short today. So emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This is from Jimmy. Alan Lazard or Josh Palmer in PPR?
Starting point is 00:33:53 Palmer. That's so close. I guess the matchup is so good for Lazard. I'm just a little scared of the injury, but I guess if he gets the full clean bell of health, Lazard would the matchup. So Lazard. Well, Palmer's matchup is probably better,
Starting point is 00:34:06 but I'll take Lizard. Do you think his matchup is better? Falcons give up the most points to wide receivers. I don't know. They're both very good matchups. I think you're hoping for Lizard to score. There's a little bit better track record of that. From Eric in Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:34:22 10-team, 2QB, half PPR league. Should I trade Lamar Jackson and one of my wide receivers, which would be DJ Moore, Pittman, Godwin, Sutton, and Rondale Moore? One of them plus Lamar Jackson for Justin Fields and Amonra St. Brown. 2QB, 10-team.
Starting point is 00:34:41 No. No? Okay. It's too much. Unless you're just desperate and once the Bears buy a week because the Ravens are next week. It's not next week. I'm not sure when it is. From Mike, Grade the Trade.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Give Hopkins and Mostert get Derrick Henry in a PPR league. Wow. That's pretty close. It's hard to say no to get a Derrick Henry in a PPR league. Wow. That's pretty close. It's hard to say no to get a Derrick Henry. But Hopkins could be top five rest of the season. Yeah, the only concern, I guess, would be is that what happens when Marquis Brown is back, if he's back at all.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So if you want to get Derrick Henry, you have to spend. And this is spending pretty steeply. OK, so it's Hopkins and Mostert for Derrick Henry. B minus. B minus. I'll give it's Hopkins and Mostert for Derek Henry. B-. I'll give it a C. Even C. From David Allegria. Good afternoon. It's past
Starting point is 00:35:33 1130. That's what he said. From a town just south of Jacksonville. Is Daytona just south of Jacksonville? Yes. Sure. This is a good question for you guys. Except Dan, for some reason, questioned by South Florida.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I do. Authenticity is ridiculous. Ridiculous. Full PBR. Deion Jackson or Clyde Eberts-Ziller? Deion. Yeah, Deion for sure. More volume.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Oh, by the way, he's from St. John's, Florida. I've actually never heard of that. What's the story? You claim to be in South Florida. Well, it's nowhere near South Florida. What's the story with the old football Jamie has behind him? The old football was something
Starting point is 00:36:13 my father-in-law loves to spend his days going to thrift shops. He found this in a thrift shop. That's pretty cool. I told him I'd put it there. Alright, this is from Joe. Very good story. Dan Mar i want to see me yeah hey sandler matthews lee curtis and folk adam jamie heath ah who's he who's heath folk i think that should be nick folk but i don't know
Starting point is 00:36:43 who that would there's no nick no it's not nick folk it's f-o-u-l Folk, but I don't know who that would... There is no Nick. No, it's not Nick Folk. It's F-O-U-L-K-E. I don't know who Heath Folk is. I've never heard of Heath Folk. Adam Sandler, Dave Matthews, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Heath Folk. Is there maybe a Keith Folk, and it's like part of the joke?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Maybe. Heath Folk has got to be a country singer, right? I mean, it couldn't have a more country name. What about Byron Folk? Half PPR, Lazard or DeAndre Carter? Lazard, yeah. Taysom Hill or Isaiah Likely
Starting point is 00:37:13 if Mark Andrews plays? I don't think Mark Andrews is going to play at this point. You don't? No. Didn't he miss again today? Keith Folk, that pitcher for the Red Sox. Keith Folk. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:37:27 World Series champion. Keith Folk. If you were still a baseball guy, you'd remember that. Yeah, I would have, yeah. If you were a Yankees fan, you'd remember that. We'll find out Saturday with Andrews. All right, but if Andrews plays, would you go Taysom Hill or Isaiah Likely? You mean if Andrews doesn't play?
Starting point is 00:37:44 No, he's saying if Andrews plays. Oh, I would go with Taysom Hill or Isaiah Likely? Give me if Andrews doesn't play. No, he's saying if Andrews plays. Oh, I would go with Taysom Hill and non-PPR. I might gamble on Likely and PPR. All right, this is from Mike in Eastern North Carolina. Two flex spots, full PPR. Lockett, Palmer, Olave, Rondell Moore, Deontay Foreman. The last two. No, no, not Rondell Moore. I'm sorry, Oontay Foreman. The last two. No, no, not Rondell Moore.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I'm sorry, Olave and Foreman. Okay. In full PPR, I'm a little more pressed, but I still think Foreman has so much better chance of volume. So I'll go Foreman. Lockett and Olave is tough for me, but I'm fine with the matchup with Olave, so I'll go Olave. Sean needs two of these three.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Palmer, DJ Moore, Pittman. Moore and Pittman for me. Moore and Palmer for me. From Brandon in Haines City. 10-team league, two super flex. You can start three quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I have Tua, Kyler, Gino, and Russ. I was offeredua, Kyler, Geno, and Russ. I was offered Josh Allen and Keenan Allen for Kyler Murray and Geno Smith. That would still leave him with Josh Allen, Tua, and Russell Wilson. He'd be getting Josh Allen and Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He'd be giving up Kyler Murray and Geno Smith. One billion trillion gazillion percent. I would love this trade. I only love it because he has Russ, though. I think in these leagues where you can start three, it does matter to have a QB in every one of those spots. It's a weird league, too.
Starting point is 00:39:16 James Conner is going to be a game-time decision. This is from Morgan. Damian Pierce's performance tonight is exactly why points for first down should be standard format in fantasy. There is zero reason why Pierce and Gainwell should have nearly the same amount of fantasy points as a result of their efforts.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I agree. If you want to do points for first down, that's fine. I do not support PPR and points for first down. I just think it should be one or the other. That's not on your platform? What about half PPR and points for first down? No, I don't think any PPR and points for first
Starting point is 00:39:51 down. I mean, that's the boost. That's me, personally. All right, Randy from LA. Give up Tua. You hate Scott Fisch is what you're saying. I did not say that. Where's he been? He hasn't been in our chat in years. So now I do hate him. All right, give up Tua and Gus.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Get Cordaro Patterson. I'm going to start being nice to him. He's now on the Hall of Fame committee. Oh. Well, I'm never getting into that. All right, so listen. Randy has Mahomes. He gives up Tua and Gus Edwards.
Starting point is 00:40:19 He gets Cordaro Patterson. Gives up Tua and Gus Edwards gets... It's a 1QB. Yeah, 1QB, and he has Mahomesl Patterson? Gives up Tua and Gus Edwards gets... It's a one QB. Yeah, one QB, and he has Mahomes. Patterson. He's going to have Tua and... Edwards. No, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah. I think you do better with what Tua's doing right now. I agree. 100%. From Jimmy, PPR League, pick one. Alec Pierce, Philip Dorsett. Not him. Zay Jones or Matt Collins?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Ugh. Well, Dorsett not him Zay Jones or Mac Hollins yeah well Dorsett played already yeah I'd go Pierce yeah say Jones but that's just me from Joseph Pittman or Jacoby Myers Myers yeah it's amazing have to say that but yeah all right I'm gonna do two minutes of rapid-fire YouTube questions. Go, YouTube, go. This is from Reed.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Start two. Gibson, Swift, Pittman, Foreman, Deion Jackson. Foreman and Gibson. And then Christian Kirk or Justin Fields? Fields for me. Sure, Fields. Isaiah Likely or Noah Fant? Likely.
Starting point is 00:41:27 If Andrews plays and if Fant is okay, I like Fant's sleeper situation against Cardinal. Jarko says that person just gave away Tua for a ham sandwich. He wishes. Ham is clearly the best cold cut. No, it's not. You put that online, Adam, and you got destroyed immediately. I think it destroyed.
Starting point is 00:41:44 That was one of your worst takes ever. It is, right, Jamie? It's one of his worst takes ever. If Jamie doesn't even eat ham, he wouldn't know. cut no it's not you put that online adam and you got destroyed i think it destroyed it was a very it is right jamie it's one of his worst takes ever he wouldn't know first of all ham was last on the poll you put three options that weren't you didn't include pastrami which is probably the best you didn't include any of the italian spice meats you just included regular which is fine oh you put one prosciutto okay but prosciutto and you were stillutto. And you were still dead last, and you still had people commenting, what? Ham is the worst. There were multiple people like,
Starting point is 00:42:08 what is he talking about? Ham is probably the worst of any cold cut meat, which I stand by as the truth. All right, let's pick two here. Deion Jackson, Tyler Algier, Michael Carter, and Khalil Herbert. Pick two. If there is no Cordero Patterson,
Starting point is 00:42:22 I would go with Jackson and Algier. If Patterson plays, I'll go Jackson and Herbert. Okay. Would you give up Devante Adams and DeAndre Swift for Derek Henry? Yes. Yeah, I think you have to. Hopkins or Olave this week? Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Give me a running back and a flex out of these three. DeAndre Swift, DeAndre Jackson, Michael Pittman, and Darnell Mooney. I guess there are four. me a running back and a flex out of these three deandre swift deon jackson michael pittman and darnell mooney i guess there are four uh the colts so pittman over swift pittman over mooney yes what's it just so nerve-wracking okay how about would you start james robinson cam acres or je or Jeff Wilson in standard scoring? Puke. Wilson? Is it Wilson?
Starting point is 00:43:08 Wilson. Yeah, it's Wilson, isn't it? Last question here. Tua or Kyler? Tua. Yeah, I think matchup Tua. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Sorry for the shorter episode today.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Thanks for being a part of it. For Dan and Jamie. Dan, I'm looking forward. You have a very good commute tonight. I'm very happy episode today. Thanks for being a part of it. For Dan and Jamie. Dan, I'm looking forward. You have a very good commute tonight. I'm very happy for you. Next tape. Maybe I'll pick up a ham sandwich on the way so I can eat that. What a day.
Starting point is 00:43:33 What a day this would be. Be a menace on the train by eating. By the way, Adam, just out of curiosity, why do you think they call it trade for X4A ham sandwich as in you're getting nothing if the ham sandwich was good? Think about that one. I don't like that point because that is a really good one. It's hurting my argument. Dan first hurt your feelings, now hurt your ham sandwich. That's a bad friend. There's no question. See you later, everybody.

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