Fantasy Football Today - NFL DFS Week 14 Lineups, Picks, Stacks & Ownership Projections (Fantasy Football Today DFS podcast)

Episode Date: December 8, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:43 And I'm not just saying that facetiously. Like he literally is in all three capacities. Mike McClure, how are you? I am doing well. See a fired up for this podcast, the Thursday night football game. Thursday is just a great day. It kicks off what is always a great weekend during football season. So always love a challenge on a DFS slate.
Starting point is 00:01:03 And that is what we have this week for sure. Yeah. You know, I hear some grumblings when we get games like this and I'm talking about the Thursday night game and at the end of the show, we'll talk about maybe some showdown plays and game flow and things of that nature. But, you know, some girl is like, oh, this is such a bad game. You know, the Rams and whatever quarterback they're going to be trotting out there. And it's like, man, we don't have any Thursday night games left. You better embrace all of this because this is pretty great because for about six, seven months, we're not going to have anything. So I, Mike, I, I share your sentiment there. I'm super excited. I do want to ask you before we get into this 10 game slate and by the way, hit the like button.
Starting point is 00:01:37 If you're already in the chat, we appreciate that. We're going to get to Mike's top three at each position once we get to a hundred likes. So if we get to a hundred likes early, then we're going to do the top three early. Also, the FFT DFS contest is live, so go ahead and register for that. It's only 200 deep, so it does fill up pretty fast. And again, congratulations to AdHoma21, who I found out his actual name is Arthur Thomas. So congratulations, Arthur Thomas, for taking down the Week 13 FFT DFS contest. Mike, what I was going to ask you before we get to this 10-game slate is,
Starting point is 00:02:04 this is an interesting one, especially relative to last week. Last week, we almost had too many options. And this week, it doesn't seem like there are enough options. And what I mean by that is there's not a lot of like stackable games, at least not games that are immediately, you know, jump out at you like we had last week. I personally see that as sort of an advantage for us because what we're so big on, Mike, and I'm not talking about you and me necessarily, the listeners as well, of course, we're so big on just alternate roster constructions and things of that nature and just picking off pieces, skinny stacks from games that might not be so popular for people. That's sort of how I approach this slate. So I'm
Starting point is 00:02:38 really excited about it. But I just want to get your sentiment because again, it's not one of those slates where we're looking at mouthwatering totals. Yeah, not a lot of mouthwatering totals. The one game that is becomes pretty expensive to stack very quickly. Yeah, it's a tough week out there for sure. We don't have obvious running back value like we have in some of the previous weeks. I think the scores will definitely be lower. You know, scores needed to win contests,
Starting point is 00:03:06 probably 30 plus points lower this week. So that's always an interesting thing to see. As far as where we're paying up, that'll also be interesting to see where everybody kind of pays up this week. I have one spot where I'm going to pay up again that I haven't in quite a few weeks. It's a little tease there. Oh, nice. And by the way, speaking of tease, you mentioned that there's one game that people are going to want to stack and that it gets pretty expensive. I sort of have two games in mind there. So I'm curious, what is that one game? Because we're starting with the highest total. That's going to be the first game we cover. Is that the game you're talking about? That's the game I'm talking about. And when I say it gets expensive, it gets expensive if you want
Starting point is 00:03:44 the two top pieces, which would be Amandra and Justin Jefferson. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's a pretty good lead into our first game, which of course is going to be Minnesota at Detroit. And listen, there are going to be weather concerns this week, but this of course is not one of them because this is in a dome.
Starting point is 00:03:59 This is at Detroit. We know these Detroit games, you know, Jared Goff actually flashes. Of course, he's actually been good on the road a little bit here and there too, but this is a, like I like to call it a curated environment. It's part of the reason we have this total it's Vikings plus two, but it's a 51 and a half point total. This has been kind of moving. I, you know, I think I saw it at 53 in some places. I saw it 52 and a half and 52. Now it's 51 and a half. Now it's still an extremely high total. So I'm not really worried about it going down, but I just think it's worthy of noting that it's gone
Starting point is 00:04:27 down a point or two. You know, Mike, I really liked this game for obvious reasons and I don't think I really need to explain it, but I do think, and we saw it last week, but we've kind of been seeing it all year with the Vikings secondary in particular, they can get exposed. I mean, Mike White, even though he didn't score any touchdowns through the air, 369 passing yards against this defense. And they've been giving up a lot in the secondary. If you look at their secondary, it's just, there's not a lot of good pieces there. So I think the golf side really makes sense. I wonder what you think about the cousins side with all of that said, there's so many pieces in this game, right? We've got a Monroe St. Brown. We got DJ shark who
Starting point is 00:05:01 his snap share finally ticked up to, you know, an elite elite spot last week. And got DJ Shark, who his snap share finally ticked up to an elite, elite spot last week. And then of course, on the other side, you've got superstars like Jefferson, secondary pieces like Hawkinson and Thielen. And then of course, Dalvin Cook is on this team as well. A lot to choose from, a lot of different types of constructions you can include. And I actually, in our solo pod, and I'll kick this over to you, I had a construction that I was talking about with the audience about, it was Jared Goff and Amon Ross St. Brown and DJ Shark and bringing it back with, you know, basically two of three options that may or may not include Justin Jefferson, Hawkinson, Thielen, Justin Jefferson, maybe Dalvin Cook, like some, some, you know, two pieces of that. My question for you is, is that too much for you in terms of maybe one of
Starting point is 00:05:43 your five lineups? Is that just sort of over stacking it? Or are you cool with that type of stack? And tell me what pieces you like in this game? Yeah. I mean, I think that there, you could definitely game stack it up where you have quarterback and say three others, uh, whether it's one or two from his team, one bring back, I think that's probably fine. Uh, have exposure to him on your st. Brown I'll probably have some Justin Jefferson I'll have a little Adam Thielen the guy that I will also likely have exposure to assuming that everything's good on the injury front Swift 5800 in the backfield we don't have a ton of obvious running back value I think he's gonna
Starting point is 00:06:20 catch some passes in this one he is workload actually at least in the last game was very encouraging to see he does obviously lose goal line work to Jamal Williams. That's always concerning when you're trying to score touchdowns. Uh, but I, I do like him there, uh, as far as stacking the game, I look, it's going to be popular. I have a Mondo St. Brown is the most popular player on the slate. Um, just right ahead of Denver's tight end, but he's going to be right up there as the most popular player on the slate. I'm showing Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen approaching 20% as well, but I think a Monroe will be clearly 30% plus. I think it's fair value on the chalk. I don't think it's an obvious fade situation. I think that you're playing with fire on this
Starting point is 00:07:03 particular slate, trying to fade them. So I'm probably going to play about equal to the field on it. I'm probably not going to go crazy. Probably. I'm definitely not fading all the way. Um, the other guy that we kind of have to talk about and mention a little bit is going to be Hawkinson as well. Uh, you know, facing the former team. Yes. They know how to cover them potentially. Maybe not. Uh, I think that he's certainly going to be involved in this one as well. It's just a massive shootout potential on both sides. As you mentioned, the domed environment on a week where we actually do have a little weather. It's hard not to like a ton of these pieces.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I just personally think that I will be sprinkling in pieces more than full-on game stacking. Let me ask you, first of all, Hawkinson's ownership, is it trending upward? I mean, you mentioned all the popular pieces, Hawkinson and Dalvin Cook, and I'm sorry to ask you this on the fly, but are both of those guys trending sort of towards that, I don't know, 12 to 15% range? Yes, right there in that 12% to 15% range. I think that Hawkinson could be as high as 17%, 18%. We'll see. I'm going to do my best to make that different at tight end because there's someone that I absolutely love,
Starting point is 00:08:18 assuming everyone is active and healthy and ready to go. And that's not from this game. That's from another game, you're saying, right? From another game, yep. The Cousins side, is that, so again, for those of you that don't know, Mike usually does about five tournament lineups. Sometimes he plays cash as well,
Starting point is 00:08:33 but usually five tournament lineups. Is the Cousins side of this potentially in one of those five, or if you're stacking this, you're going the golf route? The Cousins route would probably be there. I don't want to spoil my favorite QB yet. Let me look at the games quickly and see when that one's coming up. A couple games away.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Not the next game, but the game after. I will be playing one of these two quarterbacks, one of golf or Cousins. It will not be my main lineup. Um, but I do, I will have exposure to the game to the point where I have one of the two quarterbacks as far as which one I get to. Um, if you're able to follow me on sports line, you'll definitely see it there at that point. It's truly going to come down to an ownership battle for me, uh, at this point. So I think that it's probably going to be cousins to an ownership battle for me at this point.
Starting point is 00:09:25 So I think that it's probably going to be cousins that I get to. I'm pretty confident golf's going to be meaningfully higher. Everything I'm showing right now is within 2%. So I don't know that I believe my own ownership data here. I think that golf's going to out-own him by at least 5%, but it's suggesting it's going to outown him by at least 5%, but it's suggesting it's going to be a lot closer than that, which probably makes a lot of sense because I think Minnesota is one of the more popular bets in the betting market this week.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Okay. I think we covered that. Did we miss a play? I mean, we certainly didn't miss a play. Well, let me ask you this before we move on to jets at the bill, speaking of some potential weather concerns, uh, DJ shark. I don't know that I got you to talk about it all. Is he a guy, I mean, he's certainly at a price that, that makes sense. Is he a guy that you're going to be including in your, your stacks or your bring backs? Probably not. Um, and now if I were playing 20 plus lineups, yeah. Uh, and my five lineup builds probably not going to get there this week. Um, can't rule it out, but probably not going to get there. Okay. And again, DJ shark, uh, 4,300. And for that reason, he's probably going to be a piece that people are going to want to throw in there,
Starting point is 00:10:37 you know, especially to offset some guys like Justin Jefferson who were very expensive. So, um, is he getting some popularity, Mike? Let me search quickly. Not really. About 4%. Okay. Okay, great. All right. So let's move on. We covered that game. Certainly so many players you can find different ways to stack. And I'm sure some of those people that we just talked about will be featured in Mike's top three. Let's go to Jetsville. So I mentioned weather concerns. I don't think it's going to be too bad. I mean, we are likely, it looks like right now, we're likely to see snow. At this point, it doesn't seem like that's going to be super detrimental to the game itself. Mike, maybe you could just shed some light on what you think there, but we got the Jets plus
Starting point is 00:11:19 10 at the bills. It's a 43 point total. Pretty underwhelming total. I talked on Tuesday, Mike, about Mike White and how I still like the price, especially if you pair him with Garrett Wilson, who's still under 6K. I don't know. Maybe I'll back off of that because I know you're kind of a fan of the Bills, maybe really kind of putting their foot down on the throat of the New York Jets in this one. So tell me how you feel about this game. Just one issue that I do want to point out. It looks like Michael Carter might be healthy, so we kind of have to see how that Zonovan Knight thing is going to play out. I'd like to know if you think Zonovan Knight still presents value at 5,100,
Starting point is 00:11:54 but more importantly, are you playing guys from this game? I'm probably going to be off of this game. I like the under quite a bit in this game. We're going to have some weather, rain, snow mix. I think that the Jets side struggles offensively in this game. So I'm mostly off of it at this point. I, you know, Knight was fine. I liked him. The price points come up. He's been great in these last few games. I don't know if he can do it again against this defense. I'm not excluding him from the player pool, but not someone that I've got locked in at this point.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So monitoring it, but at some point, I don't see that volume sticking there. If we've got Carter, we've got Robinson. It just seems way too fragile to me. And how about the Mike White to Garrett Wilson or forget about Mike White for a second is Garrett Wilson at 5,900. Does he still present a value here? He probably does just because of the target volume. Um, he's probably fine, uh, because of the target volume. I don't, I wouldn't count on scoring touchdowns. Uh, obviously got there last week without it. Um, I wouldn't expect a repeat of that. He had
Starting point is 00:13:11 two very, very friendly matchups with Chicago and Minnesota through the air. This one, while this Buffalo team isn't as difficult as it was last year, it's not an easy matchup like the last two that he saw. So I'm probably going to be off of Garrett Wilson personally, just based on what we saw the last few weeks. You're paying $1,600 more for him now than you were against Chicago. So a couple of guys on the bill side that do present value. And I do want to point out that the Bills implied total is 26.75. So that's reasonably high on this slate, certainly within the top five. I assume you're not going to speculate between James Cook and Devin Singletary, but I do want to point out James Cook is 4,600. The real guy I want to ask you about here, though, is Isaiah McKenzie at 4,200. Is that a dart you're just not willing
Starting point is 00:14:01 to throw, or is that something you might want to get involved with um i don't mind it it there are weeks where he's certainly not going to be involved a ton but i don't mind it he does have a ton of upside i i think the real thing here is just monitoring the weather i think this game could be ugly. It could be a sloppy game. I don't hate it, but don't love it. Okay. Speaking of games that maybe you probably are more on the hate side than the love side, Ravens plus two at the Steelers. It's a 36 and a half point total. Now I could be wrong here now that I think about it because Mark Andrews is in this game and we had somebody very smart in the chat who knows you very well, Mike, apparently. I'm trying to find...
Starting point is 00:14:48 Oh, it's M. Bruno who says, Sounds like Mike is talking about Andrews when you referred to a tight end you really like. Is M. Bruno right, Mike? He is. They are. I like Mr. Mark Andrews. My favorite quarterback of the week is in this game. It is Tyler Huntley. Wow. Okay. Tell me more because I feared Tyler Huntley because I just, especially at Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:15:14 it doesn't seem like he can do much with his arm, especially with this receiver core outside of Mark Andrews. And we know, you know, Pittsburgh has been playing a little bit better. It's a very low total, but my assumption, Mike, is that you like the rushing floor with Tyler Huntley and you, you expect him to play a little bit better than he did last week. I do. Yes. I think we've got a great rushing floor. I think he scores a rushing touchdown on this game. I think he targets Mark Andrews a ton. We've seen him fill in at times before. I like this spot for him personally. I like that he's in the same price point as Jared Goff. I could still stack Jared Goff's receivers and other pieces from that game while still
Starting point is 00:15:53 capturing Tyler Huntley's ability to run the football with his legs. If he does anything at all with his arm, I like this spot a lot for him. So I don't think a lot of people are going to go there with me. I think I'm going to be kind of in my own little world on this one, which is great. I like that. I do think that we have the scenario where we're looking at 40 rushing yards, potentially a rushing touchdown.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Hopefully we get 150 to 200 yards and a touchdown through the air. And we're sitting pretty as long as a lot of that work goes to Mark Andrews. So yes, I like Huntley. I think that the drop-off from Lamar in this particular offense may not be as big as we think. See, that's an interesting point because I think I kind of agree with you there. And with Tyler Huntley having a week to prepare, I mean, I guess obviously the Pittsburgh Steelers get a week to scheme against Tyler Huntley, but I don't know that that scheming is much different than what you would do with Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:16:49 So Mike, I think you make a really good point that, you know, and that's no disrespect to Lamar Jackson, just the way he's been playing and the numbers he's been putting up. You might be right. It might not be much of a drop off. Let me ask you this, and maybe you've cleared this up already,
Starting point is 00:17:01 but is it Tyler Huntley to Mark Andrews? In other words, is that how you're playing it? Or are there situations in one of your lineups where you're playing Tyler Huntley naked or with maybe somebody like discount to Marcus Robinson at 4,000? It's likely going to be Huntley naked or Huntley to Mark Andrews. I like the target distribution to Mark Andrews here. We've seen a lot. I shouldn't say a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:22 We've seen some of this in the past. I'm trying to look back through some of Huntley's game logs from last year when he played. I'm seeing rushing yard games of 72, 54, 73, 45, 40. Yeah. Scored two touchdowns rushing in one of those games with the 73 yards. Look, I like the spot. In a couple of those games, he still threw north of 200 yards. I think this is a really good spot for him. And yeah, that's where I'm going this week. Early ownership indication does not suggest
Starting point is 00:17:57 the field is going with me. We'll see how much that changes between now and then. But that is where I'm going this week. And it's either probably going to be really good or one of those weeks where we returned $0. And you know what? That's the way I play and I'm okay with that. Right? So exactly. I mean, that's, that's how you are supposed to play tournaments. You're supposed to look for your ceiling and not worry about your floor. I think you've actually gotten me convinced to play Tyler Huntley. My personal preference is to go with your version where it's Tyler Huntley naked. And I just, I don't mess with any of the
Starting point is 00:18:29 receivers or, or Mark Andrews. And I just hope for the best. I mean, I do think Demarcus Robinson at 4,000 is pretty great value given the amount of targets he's been getting. He caught seven of eight targets last week. And again, 4,000 is just a good price. I do want to point out Deontay Johnson did not practice today. This is Thursday. He did not practice. So we'll have to monitor that. Let me ask you this. Is there a runback scenario, whether you're stacking or not?
Starting point is 00:18:51 But let's, you know, whatever. Anybody on the Pittsburgh side that you like. I kind of like Deontay Johnson at 5,100. But now that he didn't practice Thursday, I wonder maybe is George Pickens. Obviously, I mean, he presents some value if deontay johnson is out at his price right he does um if johnson is out i could see myself getting there um other than that i could get crazy uh in one scenario but i don't know that i'm trying to look at my my data quickly to see if it's actually viable i wanted to say i would be crazy and still play
Starting point is 00:19:26 double tight end with andrews and fryer muth on the bring back with huntley no like i've got a unique lineup right there for sure nobody else is doing that yes um probably not going to get there though it doesn't look as viable spending that much at the with two of those tight ends there so i fryer muth is okay. Probably going to be a lot of either Huntley naked or Huntley with Andrews. Okay. I think we can move on. I don't really like much on the Pittsburgh side, but I do want to monitor the Deontay thing. I think Pickens or Friar Muth, if Deontay Johnson is out, become pretty great values at 5k and sub 5K. Frymouth for 4,500 on DraftKings and George Pickens, 5,000. Let's move to a game that actually has a total that's 10 points higher
Starting point is 00:20:11 than the Ravens at the Steelers, and it's the Browns at the Bengals. I suspect this is going to be a relatively popular game for obvious reasons. Burrow has all of his weapons back other than Hayden Hurst, who may not play in this game. And so, by the way, his backup is Will Cox, and he's 2,700. I think there's probably, if you're going to go down in that 2K-ish range, that's not where you want to go. I think there's probably other options if you really want to get cheap at tight end.
Starting point is 00:20:37 But Burrow stacks, I mean, I think obviously they're in play. I think a lot of people are going to be playing them. I like Burrow to chase this week, but certainly Burrow to Higgins is in play. Mixon is in play. I think a lot of people are going to be playing them. I like Broderick Chase this week, but certainly Broderick Higgins is in play. Mixon is in play. I think Kareem Hunt is an interesting dart thrower if you're trying to find value. I think Deshaun Watson, he had 11 touches last week. I think Deshaun Watson could kind of lean on him if it's a negative game script, which by the way, that's what I expect. How are you playing this one? Are you playing this one? Yeah, I like Broderick Chase for sure. i think this is a great spot on jamar chase i still think he's going to be underpriced uh at 7900 i think he's an 8600 wide receiver um yeah
Starting point is 00:21:13 i like the spot for chase so i i think what we saw from him last week was kind of the floor uh in terms of target volume eight targets game one uh. Remember Kansas city has a lot of longer sustained drives to eat clock and really shorten the game in those ways, which is why everyone looks at those games and it's like, Oh, we have to hammer the over offensive efficiency, et cetera. Right. And these games always seem to end 24, 21, 27, 24. They're not the massive 40 point shootouts. It's because possessions are limited.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I don't think that's necessarily the case quite as much here. So I like Jamar chase a ton. Yeah, I think this could be a potential two touchdown day for Jamar chase. So he's one of my favorite receivers for sure. Is this a game where you would stack burrow to chase and somebody else on the Cincinnati side, or would it just be burrow to chase?
Starting point is 00:22:05 It would just be burrow to chase. somebody else on the Cincinnati side, or would it just be burrow to chase? It would just be burrow to chase. Uh, you know, last week I stacked it and had a lot of success doing it. The issue with it is like when we really want to incorporate those running back stacks as well, where we're just simply trying to capture all the offensive scoring, you're only typically doing that when we're talking about a backup running back situation, you know, something less than six K. Um, when you're having to spend more to do it you really really eat into the upside of doing that so i'm not going to recommend doing anything there other than um you know if you wanted to stack that game like that it would honestly probably just be kareem hunt in the in the running back spot uh you know as a bring back but as as far as Sensi, for me this week,
Starting point is 00:22:46 it won't be double stacks. It'll be just directly to Chase. And let's talk about the running backs real quick before we move on to the next game because Nick Chubb is 7,800. I do think he could get game scripted out of this game, but then again, this could be a back and forth where Cleveland's very competitive.
Starting point is 00:23:01 7,800 is tough. I know this week I'm really looking to pay up more at receiver than I am at running back. So I don't tough. I know this week I'm really looking to pay up more at receiver than I am at running back. So, you know, I don't know that I'm paying that. I think Kareem Hunt at 4,600. Is it reasonable, Darthor? It sounds like you do as well, because you just mentioned him. Amari Cooper, Donovan Peoples-Jones. I assume you're not interested in either of those. Amari is 6,200. DPJ is 4,900. Yeah, not a ton of interest. You know know if you want to take a shot on dpj fine uh the issue is i wonder how much chemistry is really there with deshaun i actually kind of preferred him with
Starting point is 00:23:32 jacoby brissett playing um yeah i think that uh i would rather take a wait and see approach on that i'd rather you know obviously we don't have a ton of time left in the season you typically want to be predictive and be ahead of things like that. But on a full slate like this, I would rather see it first from the Cleveland side before I speculate too much on it. And by the way, we had a question from Thomas Scarpatti, Baltimore running backs in play. I'll answer that and then I'll kick it to you, Mike. The answer is no for me. Mike, what about you? Yeah, I would say no for me. I think the things that are likely
Starting point is 00:24:09 to happen is Huntley's likely to find some success with his legs. If not, they're likely game scripted into spots where they have more obvious passing work. And yeah, I just, I don't, I don't like him at all. Okay. And a couple of comments here Derek Graham, Kareem Hunt at 4,600 for value. Yeah, I like that play. It's very speculative, don't get me wrong, because he hasn't been a touch monster this entire year. Last week, you know, he did have a slight spike in touches with 11 overall touches.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So I think Kareem Hunt, from a game script standpoint, certainly makes sense if you think, listen, it's going to be the Borough show and they're just going to put up a bunch of points. Kareem Hunt probably finds himself on the field a lot more. So I think if you're stacking the Cincinnati side, I think Kareem Hunt makes sense if that's the game script you want to go with. So we touched on that a little bit earlier. Thanks for the question, Derek. Greg Goose Hayes, this is a good question because sometimes I forget to kind of
Starting point is 00:24:57 emphasize cash. He says, I'm thinking Burrow as the top cash QB this week. I think that's a great play. But Mike in cash would Burrow be your favorite play? It'll be Huntley still in all formats for me, just because of the salary savings and what it allows you to do. Yeah. I mean, I think that the most popular quarterback in cash for the field is going to be Jared Goff this week. So I,
Starting point is 00:25:22 you know, you're getting a little different with Burrow. You just, when you spend that much, you know, you getting a little different with burrow. Um, you just, when you spend that much, you gotta be right everywhere else. And let me ask you this before we move on from this game, because this is a pretty important game in the scheme of things, because it's one of those that might have a back and forth and a high total. So we have a question from M Bruno. He says, Cleveland is awful versus the run. True. Mixing could have a big day. So my question for you is you already answered the question of, hey, you don't want to have a Burrow to chase and Mixon stack,
Starting point is 00:25:48 and you gave out the really good reason why you shouldn't do that. But if you're not stacking Burrow to chase and you just want to get a piece of this game, Mixon coming out of the concussion protocol and likely playing on Sunday, of course, that's still a pretty solid play here, right? Yes, it's a fantastic matchup for them. One has to ask the question does samajip iran being successful eat into mixin's workload at all at
Starting point is 00:26:12 some point um i don't know that it does necessarily i i think that they still feed him um yeah it's a frustrating frustrating thing for mixin he hasn't you know, he had one great game. He hadn't been great a lot of the time. It's a great matchup for him. I'm always a little skeptical on it just because I think Burrow wants to throw more, and I think they want to let him throw more. I don't mind it. Mixon's going to be popular.
Starting point is 00:26:44 The issue for me is heon's going to be popular. The issue for me is, is he's also going to be popular. The time when I really want us to be playing Joe Mixon is when he's not necessarily going to be popular. When it's like obvious that everyone wants to play Burrow and chase. That's when I want to play Mixon and just kind of bet on some of that, you know, touchdown variance.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I don't think that's the case here. I think more people are playing Mixon than burrow or chase this week yeah i'm showing you the uh the most popular running back on the slate wow okay so i mean i think you're probably right about that i'm probably going to be off mixin it's he's not like my fade play on my cheat sheet or anything but i'm probably going to be off mix and i'm going to be very interested in the burrow to chase uh stacks and by the way mike uh thanks for watching the show everybody hopefully you've already hit the like button. Please do if you haven't already, but you asked, so you would play, you're talking to Mike, obviously Huntley in both GPP and cash. He definitely said yes to that. For me, I would probably, I'm going to get consider, I'm going to play Huntley in some GPPs,
Starting point is 00:27:37 but for me, I think Mike's sort of second option is better for me personally. I'll probably have golf and Burrow in some of those cash lineups. I'm probably going to do one or two. So it's very likely that Goff or Burrow find themselves in my primary cash lineup. But again, Mike likes Huntley both ways. And it certainly makes sense, right? Because he does have that floor. He does have the low floor with the rushing yards and he does have the great price. So thank you for your question, Mike, and everybody out there. Let's move to Jags plus four at the Titans. This is a 41-point total. There's a lot we need to find out in these games, Mike, and we all know, right, especially this time of year, things change from Thursday to Saturday to Sunday.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So everybody, you know, take all of what we're saying. We usually kind of build in the contingency plans. Like we usually talk about – usually talk about it last week. If Mixon was going to be out again, you're going to want to put some Ajay Piran in your lineup. So don't just listen to the plays, but listen to some of the injury stuff too because we try to account for that stuff as well. And, of course, I do have some people tweeting at me with kind of like last-minute plays. And sometimes I put some last-minute plays during our final bets show on the early edge
Starting point is 00:28:44 at 12 o'clock Eastern Standard time. So more information coming, but with that said, I think Trevor Lawrence is playing. He says he's playing, but he does have that foot issue. I think if Trevor Lawrence doesn't play, this game is pretty much a nothing for me outside of Derrick Henry. I think if Trevor Lawrence plays and he appears to be healthy, I think you could do a lot of different things in this game. Maybe my favorite thing would probably be a skinny stack with like a Christian Kirk and Derrick Henry. What say you on this game? Yeah, this one for me is going to be all about Derrick Henry. He has absolutely crushed this team just like he does to the Texans in the division. A game they really need to win, kind of. I mean, they're going to win
Starting point is 00:29:25 the division. They're fine there. They've lost two in a row, get to come back home. They've had changes in the front office over the last week. This seems like an obvious smash spot for Derrick Henry, where he's got the 150 yards, two touchdowns. Derrick Henry, I say this often, and we're usually pretty good about identifying the right times to play these people. You know, last week you were fantastic about fading, you know, Derek Henry. I think this is the week you play Derek Henry here. We play, it's kind of like when you, the Titans typically, and some of these other teams, there are certain teams where you don't really back them when they're favored. You love backing them when they're underdogs. Derek Henry's the guy that I don't,
Starting point is 00:30:05 we don't play them when he's $9,000. When Derek Henry is $7,900, you say thank you for the discount and you play them. Right. So I love Derek Henry this week. I think he's a top running back. The knock on him on draft Kings is always PPR site has limited upside in the passing game,
Starting point is 00:30:24 blah, blah. The good news is on draft Kings, you get the 300, you get the 100 yard bonus. I would say Derek Henry is a near lock for the 100 yard bonus this week. Yeah. I mean, outside of it, like, listen, he's been very inefficient, but this is a nice matchup. You know, like last week, not only did I fade him on my cheat sheet, but on the early edge
Starting point is 00:30:42 when we do our prop show, which of course is tomorrow, Friday at four o'clock, um, he was, I had an under on him of 86 and a half yards. Actually, I gave that play out on Sunday's final bets show, um, in all candor there. But the point is it was a bad matchup last week with Jordan Davis coming back. We know he had an injury like four or five weeks ago that maybe he's still shaking off, but this is such a good matchup. I absolutely. And I agree with you. It does feel like a must win for the Tennessee Titans to get back on track. So I think this is definitely a Derrick Henry game. Let me ask you this. If Trevor Lawrence plays, are you expecting enough points where you might consider some guys on the Jacksonville side? I'm not playing Travis at TM this week. I don't think it's a good matchup for him, but maybe guys like Christian Kirk has just a one-off player,
Starting point is 00:31:22 Zay Jones, or maybe even Robert Woods on the other side, given that Traylon Brooks is probably not going to play. Um, I don't mind it. I think the upside is still honestly limited on Robert Woods. Um, you know, I think a good game for him at this point is four catches, 45 yards in a touchdown, which, you know, at the price point you're, you're probably okay with, right. But that's like a ceiling game at this point in this offense. So, um, I think it's more about Henry than anything else. If you want to have a bring back and speculate on one of the receivers, uh, on the Jacksonville side, I don't hate that. I think it's okay. Um, I think that you should just understand what you're dealing with, with Trevor Lawrence and the injury. If he's out or gets knocked out of this game, it could look very, very, very bad on that Jacksonville side.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So if you've got a receiver that you've isolated there that you really like, I don't think it's the worst call because I do think that they're going to be in that game script, but not something that's really on my radar as of right now in the week. Okay. I think we can move on. If you have questions about this game or anybody else, let us know. Let's move on to the Texans at the Cowboys. This one is so interesting for so many different reasons. I mean, first of all, on the Houston side, there's a lot of people that are
Starting point is 00:32:39 injured. Brandon Cooks is not going to play. Nico Collins mispracticed today. Again, today being Thursday, if you're listening on a Friday or Saturday. And so it doesn't look like he's going to play. And to me, that opens up some value for me, not so much on Philip Dorsett. I'm not a really big fan of Philip Dorsett. I do like Chris Moore quite a bit. And I think Chris Moore has actually been productive this season. So I want to get your opinion on whether or not you think Dorsett or Chris Moore are decent plays if Nico Collins is out with Brandon Cooks. But on the other side of the ball, we have the Cowboys with basically, depending on where you look, between a 30 and a 31 point game total. And that's a lot. That's
Starting point is 00:33:16 the highest on this slate. And it's just a weird game because they're also favored by 17 and a half. And so I'm just wondering, are you getting pieces of this game? Is this stack or any of these players on the Cowboys side in one of your five lineups? And if so, and I imagine they are, but if so, who are they? Yeah. On the Cowboys side, uh, you know, the one guy that I want to try to get to a little bit is Tony Pollard. Um, now does the question is is do we run into a scenario where we still are just feeding zeke at all times i i don't know but the price point the matchup i like it um not going to be a core lineup piece the only core lineup pieces for me you already mentioned the name though um i like dorset i'm not going to be all in on Dorsett. I like Chris Moore. I actually played Chris Moore last week and I played five lineups on draft
Starting point is 00:34:09 Kings. I had them in two of the five that I played. Didn't have a great game, had a big catch at the end of it. I think that this is going to be Chris Moore and Philip Dorsett season. I think that they're going to get peppered with targets. I know the team total is incredibly low. I know that they should get blown out.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I know it should be difficult. I think there are still fantasy points to be had there, and I think they're so low risk, right? So Chris Moore, 3,400. Philip Dorsett, 3,000. You're going to see a lot of people struggling to find salary savings this week. I think that this is where the clear and obvious value is, is on the Houston side. Totally agree. And again, I'm going to be, I'm going to have Chris Moore in a lot of my lineups. I actually, it's funny. I think I might have something against
Starting point is 00:34:55 Philip Dorsett because a few weeks ago I was really close to a takedown. And when I say really close, what I mean in a pretty big single entry, what I mean is I needed Dorsett to do something. And, you know, he was my like low cost option. And, you know, he just, he's just been so inefficient actually had, uh, I had recorded what they've done on the season. So Dorsett, he's caught 12 of 27 targets to speak to how inefficient he's been. Now, granted his quarterbacks have been really bad in terms of throwing catchable balls. So that's not all on him, but Chris Moore, who typically lines up in the slot versus outside. And so I think he's going to enjoy a little bit more success with Davis
Starting point is 00:35:30 Mills, but door set 12 for 27, 180 yards and a touchdown. Chris Moore on the other hand, 27 catches on 40 targets, 314 yards and two touchdowns. And we've seen him on prime time. We've actually seen him flash. I can't remember what game that was Mike, but it was about three weeks ago where Chris Moore caught, caught maybe four weeks ago where he caught a few balls. Let me ask you this before we leave the Houston side of this. These tight ends, they got brought up on our Tuesday solo pod. Brevin Jordan, he's 2,500. Jordan Akins is on this team. Brevin Jordan and Jordan Akins,
Starting point is 00:35:58 they do get targets, but I'm assuming, and OJ Howard was inactive last week, so I don't think he's really in play. I'm assuming you're not messing with that right because you're just going to be on the other low-end pieces at the receiver position yeah i'm more interested in the low-end receiver positions um you know and i've already locked up one of my tight ends for the most part um so yeah i mean i don't hate it like if you're down to just needing savings and you don't you don't like tight end anyway uh and you do have you know say a four thousand dollar receiver or forty five hundred dollar receiver that you'd much rather play i don't hate punting the tight end spot with one of these guys at 2500 i think that that's fine um but i don't think you should be playing chris more and one of these tight ends like Like I would not do that.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And just to be clear on the Cowboys side, before we move to the Eagles at the giants, which players are you stacking deck and which players are you playing on the Cowboys side? I'm not stacking deck. Uh, I have no interest in playing deck personally. It could buy, you know, it could come back to bite me. Um i i just think there are a number of ways they can score they probably have some short fields they might score defensively we know that zeke gets touches in the red zone pollard's probably going to get some uh this to me projects as a game where dac is not finishing the game yeah that's fair that's totally fair okay um any other players I missed on the Cowboys side, Mike? Um, no, I don't think so. Honestly. Um, let me, let me check one thing quickly. I don't think, yeah. I mean, if you wanted to just take an absolute flyer, I say an absolute flyer. It's
Starting point is 00:37:41 not like a crazy play, but, uh, you could play dalton schultz if you wanted to a tight end uh you know kind of hope that some of that early work early game goes that way um you know things like that but i i think this scenario i don't want to get too like specific on there and what i mean by that and what i see what i see in like a dalton schultz is i see like at some point in that game, obvious run situation. Everyone knows it's there. It's a play action play. You get Schultz for 35 yards over the middle, like things like that, just to kind of extend drives.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I think that this sets up as a spot where that could exist for him. Kind of middling price point, you know, 4,400. You're not paying up. It's not a value play. If I had to play a cowboy, that's probably where I'd go. Yeah. And for the record, if you wanted to just completely fade this game and pay up for defense, the Cowboys defense is 3,800. Not that they're going to simulate exactly what the Browns did last week, but if any defense had the potential to do that, of course it is the Cowboys who their pressure rates, number one in
Starting point is 00:38:42 the league, their sack rate, number one in the league. So again, we talked about it,, on the Tuesday pod, paying up for defense, especially this time of year when people are just scanning all the way down, which I do. I do as well. It might be a good idea to really get yourself some points on the field where, you know, people who are paying twenty two hundred, twenty four hundred for defenses. With that said, we're going to go to Eagles Giants, but first we're going to take a break and we're going to hear a word from our partners. It's the season for new styles and you love to shop for jackets and boots. So when you do, always make sure you get cash back from Rakuten. And it's not just clothing and shoes. You can get cash back from over 750 stores on electronics, holiday travel, home decor and more. It's super easy.
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Starting point is 00:39:56 And shout out to the Giants and Commanders who get flexed into a night game next Sunday, which I'm only pointing that out because the idea that my Washington commanders and the New York football giants are being flexed into a primetime spot is something that's evidence of this season just being pretty wacky, frankly, because I'm just super excited about that. That's not something that normally happens. But Eagles are a seven-point favorite at New York, 44.5-point total. There is some weather that may come into play here.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Saquon Barkley was limited in Thursday's practice, so that's certainly something to monitor. I don't think it's going to be a big deal. But again, if he's out for some reason, I mean, Matt Breida and I guess it's Gary Brightwell are the backups for Saquon Barkley. Like I said, there might be some weather to contend with. I see the Eagles winning this game pretty comfortably. I don't know that I'm betting this game necessarily,
Starting point is 00:40:48 but the Giants are kind of banged up on the defensive end. They have no offensive weapons whatsoever at this point. And the way Jalen Hurts is playing, I just think the Eagles are in a really good spot. Now, that doesn't mean I like Jalen Hurts or A.J. Brown or Devontae Smith. I don't know that I'm playing any of them. And, Mike, I want to get your opinion there. To me, this seems like a Miles Sanders game. Yeah, I think it could be more of a Miles Sanders game. You know, I want to always like certain
Starting point is 00:41:14 players here. Like no one's going to play AJ Brown. I think that he's always an elite tournament option. I don't have anything in this game, honestly. I'm running through all my scenarios, running through all the different builds. I just crunched another 150 lineups. The only person I have, I think, in this game is Miles Sanders. And that's coming in at like 5%. I got Devontae Smith at about 2%. Yeah, that's literally all I've got. I've got a little bit of davante smith a little bit of miles sanders but we're talking crunching 150 lineups and we're showing up in you know less than 15 of them yeah i mean my thought here is if you wanted to take a stab in a big let's just let's say you're in a 20 max and you want to have a couple lineups with jaylen hertz i don't mind
Starting point is 00:42:01 the jaylen hertz to aj brown because again, nobody's on this slate in this game, nobody's going to pay up 8,100 to 8,000. So go ahead and do that if you want. But I also think that you're getting a huge discount of Devante Smith, whose targets have really been picking up over the last four or five games. So I think Jalen Hurts to Devante Smith, we know that the Giants are very aggressive on defense. They play a lot of man coverage. They blitz a lot. I mean, we've seen these games where Devante Smith, and by the way, Jalen Hurts is throwing the ball. Like he's literally like placing it in people's hands, 50 yards down the field. So can I see a scenario if the weather's decent that Jalen Hurts drops to, to Devante Smith for two house calls?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah, I can absolutely see that. So I'm not playing that in a primary single entry or anything, but I think if you wanted to get a little speculative, a little contrarian, you do Jalen Hurts to maybe naked or Jalen Hurts to one of those two receivers. I don't think you need to run it back with anybody. I'm not really interested in playing Darius Slayton against the secondary. I'm Isaiah Hodgins, Daniel Bellinger, and I'm not going to play Saquon Barkley either. So it's a big no thank you here. And Mike, it sounds like a big no thank you for you. So it sounds like we can just move to these four o'clock games. no I think we move on uh like I said just AJ Brown I'm projecting single digit ownership go for it if you like it but it's it's very hit or miss absolutely all
Starting point is 00:43:16 right well speaking of hit or miss the four o'clock games there's one 405 games and there's two 425 games there's a hit team the Kansas City Chiefs, playing at a missed team, the Denver Broncos. The implied point total for Kansas City, 26 and a half. The implied total for Denver, 17, very low, but not as low as Denver's was last week. I guess that was against the Ravens. It was 15 and they didn't even get to 15 last week. So I don't really know what to say about Denver, but here's the reality. There's two guys that present really, really tremendous value. Arguably three guys. If Cortland Sutton is out,
Starting point is 00:43:50 Jerry Judy at 5,400 seems like great value, Mike. And of course, Greg Dulcich at 3,400, who had just an incredible target share last week and did a lot with it, was super efficient with it. Dulcich at 3,400, Jerry Judy at 5,400. Do you like either of those plays? And is there a possibility you're actually stacking the Kansas city side or pulling any pieces from the Kansas city side? So Dulcich, yeah, you gotta love him. He's going to be the second most popular player on the slate. It may be the first, it's going to be between him and Amonio St. Brown.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I think it's going to be Amonio St. Brown and Dulcich, the two most popular players. For good reason, though. They're in great spots. The volume should be there, so I like them. There's two other pieces I like on Denver. I'm not going to get to Jerry Judy. I don't mind it, but I think he's going to have enough attention. I'm not going to quite get there.
Starting point is 00:44:42 What about Hinton? That was the third guy I was going to suggest. Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt. Yeah, no, Kendall Hinton, just the risk is so much lower than extra 2000 savings from Judy. Like, yes, he's not Jerry Judy. I'm not trying to say that at all. But I do like saving the $2,000 here in this particular game. I think you need it a lot this week. So we've seen a couple of spots for him where he had, you know, five to 10 targets in that range. When he gets targets, he's actually been relatively efficient with some of those targets as efficient as you can be in that offense. So I think that the opportunity to throw the football is certainly going to be there
Starting point is 00:45:19 against Kansas city. So yeah, I like them. And then same thing for Latavius Murray. He's just too cheap. There's not a ton of obvious value. So, uh, I think there are scenarios where you can catch five passes out of the backfield. Yeah. And Kendall Hinton, we actually, I know I was big on him in week 12 at Carolina and we saw it there five for nine, you know, had a handful of yards and I believe he dropped, if not one, maybe two touchdown passes or, or, or I mean, near touchdowns in that game. So, yeah, if Sutton is out, which it's certainly trending to be, I don't know that Mike, he hasn't been declared out officially yet, as far as you know, right?
Starting point is 00:45:53 Not that I've seen. Yeah. So anyway, the point is, I don't think he's playing. And I think Kendall Hinton and Judy are probably some pretty good plays. But that is quite the discount on Kendall Hinton. Let me ask you on the Kansas city side, this is your team. You know, this is,
Starting point is 00:46:08 this is not a slate where I'm probably, I'm probably not going to play Patrick, my homes to Travis Kelsey. If I was going to play a contrarian stack, it probably, I'd probably defer to that Philly giants game that we just talked about that, that Jalen hurts to AJ Brown or Devante Smith stack.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Are you interested at all in Patrick, my home stacked or Patrick, Patrick Mahomes naked or pulling Isaiah Pacheco out of here? Uh, yeah, I'm going to pull Isaiah Pacheco out of here. Uh, I look, he hasn't had fewer than 14 targets or, uh, rushing attempts in the last four games. Certainly having more than that in terms of overall touches. Uh, I think this is a spot where they feed them just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:45 So considering there's not a lot of obvious running back value out there at this point. Yeah. I'll check a little bit. I think that at 5,700, he's going to make my player pool for sure. Yeah. I think 5,700 is a,
Starting point is 00:46:59 is a pretty good value as a nine and a half point favorite at Denver. Okay. So let's move on to the next game. So let's do the bucks plus three and a half point favorite at Denver. Okay. So let's move on to the next game. So let's do the bucks plus three and a half at the 49ers. I don't think that there's going to be a lot to talk about in this game. It's a 37 and a half point total. Oh, and listen to, okay. So I'm looking at given to live's comment. I'm going to read it out loud. Always a bonus when the day's done and I can tune in live from the UK. What are my favorite DFS gents saying about Van Jefferson and Foster Moreau tonight?
Starting point is 00:47:31 You'll get to that at the end? Wow, you read our mind. That's exactly right. We're going to get to that at the end. We'll answer the Van Jefferson and Foster Moreau question right after we do our cheat sheet in our top three. By the way, if you haven't already hit the like button, hit the like button. Bucks at Panthers.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Bucks are three and a half point dogs. excuse me, Bucks at the Niners, 37 and a half point total. Not a lot to like here, obviously. But then again, Christian McCaffrey at 8,500 with a quarterback that's probably going to be checking it down to him a lot. Is he on your radar at all? He's not on mine, but I don't think any of the passing options are on my radar either. Even George Kittle at 4,300, not interested. not interested on anybody on the Tampa Bay side. If anything, I like the Niners defense, which I believe is either 3,100 or 3,200. Anything in this game, Mike? Oh, you're on mute. Oh, cause chief chief was barking. Chief was barking. Yes. So that's why we were on mute. Um, so as far as this game, yeah, you nailed it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 The only thing I could get to is defenses. I could make the case for both of the defenses in this game. If you want to speculate on a tough day for Brock Purdy, I think it's fine. Go for it. I think we are looking at a game where first team to 20 wins the game. I think that that's pretty clear. So, yeah, I don't mind it, but I can't get there mcafree projects just fine it's okay the issue is is the guys you're fading him for like it's derrick henry's in a much better spot uh dalvin cook's in a better
Starting point is 00:48:59 spot um yeah i just i i don't think it's i don't think there's a ton to gain there. I think that Mixon is potentially likely to outscore him still. I don't think that you're gaining a ton of leverage at all by trying to make a play like McCaffrey this week. Yeah, I completely agree with that. Chris Gillentine says, hit that like button, boys and girls. Thank you for that, Chris. Okay, so we can move on.
Starting point is 00:49:25 We're not going to spend any time on a game that we're not going to have any players in. So I do agree, though, that Bucs defense is quite contrarian. Against Brock Purdy, it certainly makes sense. They're 2,900. And the 49ers defense, which also makes sense, perhaps a little bit more sense, in my opinion, at home, they're 3,200. So this might be a week to pay up for defense. Maybe you find the money to, you know, you go down to Kendall Hinton instead of Jerry Judy that you were planning on playing. And you got, you got some extra money to spread around in a lot of different places, including at the
Starting point is 00:49:51 defensive position. So something that's just one example of probably 15 we can come up with, but that was the latest game we covered. So I've just mentioned that, but let's go to the last game before we go to your top three, Mike, and we go to our cheat sheet, Carolina at Seattle. Now this is a 44 and a half point total, 44, depending on where you look. The Panthers are four and a half point dogs. Just a reminder to everybody, because all these Carolina Panthers quarterbacks are going everywhere. Baker Mayfield might play tonight. It's Sam Darnold at the quarterback position. So I think that is kind of important because I think maybe if you thought you wanted to,
Starting point is 00:50:23 I kind of want to stack this game. Gino Smith is at a good price. You could stack him with Metcalf or lock it. You could double stack him with Noah fan. And I think a DJ more run back, listen, it's, it's DJ more. So we know these games might not go well, but he's hit some ceiling games before. And I think with Sam Darnold, it's possible he could hit a ceiling game again. How do you feel about this game? Is it a stay away? Do you like the Gino smith stack i don't mind the game uh the only i mean look you can play dj more if you want to i think that's fine i think he's gonna be let's see i thought he was gonna be popular let me yeah about 10 to 12 percent not overly popular um certainly not like single digits by any means uh dk DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett
Starting point is 00:51:05 will both be lower owned. Um, it's just more difficult to get to Lockett and Metcalf when you've got guys like a Monroe St. Brown, for example, that I think are just going to take so much ownership and people want to get parts of those games. So my favorite play in this game is Tyler Lockett. Uh, this projects to be, he has the number one individual matchup of the week here. I think this is a potential spot for a two touchdown game for Tyler Lockett. So I'll be speculating on that likely through betting some of the player props. Mostly he will make his way into a lineup or two. I don't think it's a scenario where he makes five lineups. Like typically when I tell you about these players, some of them are like, I'm playing them in all five.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I can't get there this week on that, but I do think he has a ton of upside in this matchup. And Noah, first of all, if you are stacking Geno, would you stack him, let's say obviously with Lockett, but would you double stack in this game on this slate with Noah Phan who sort of separated himself from Will Disley? I'm just trying to find really a cheap tight end and maybe a game script where the Panthers keep up a little bit,
Starting point is 00:52:12 and so maybe Geno can feed both of these guys, but I also might just be pushing a button that I don't need to push. Regardless, Noah Fant at 3,100, regardless of stacks, is that something that you'd consider, or there's too many tight ends in other places that you like? No, I actually like Noah Fant after looking at him. He's always been super, super talented. And I'm glad that he's finally getting a little work there. I like him quite a bit here. So it's, you know, there's another tight end that I'll mention on my cheat sheet that we didn't mention already, but if I could make a fourth top,
Starting point is 00:52:45 you know, add a fourth tight end to my rankings, I know it would be number four for me. Okay. Good to know. Cause I think I'm going to be pretty big on Noah fan this week, at least in my, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:55 I just have a feeling about this. Um, Gino Smith. I, I just, I think I'm going to be stacking him, you know, a couple of different ways.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Uh, this is my, this is one of those games, Mike, where like, obviously we know like people are going to stack borough. Uh, people are going to stack stacking him, you know, a couple of different ways. This is my, this is one of those games, Mike, where like, obviously we know like people are going to stack burrow. People are going to stack golf or, you know, maybe cousins. There's going to be like a lot of places people go and I'm going to go to those places to some degree too. I'll try to get different with my roster constructions, but I think given how efficient Gino Smith has been and that, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:20 the Seahawks are very hungry for these wins too. And I know every team is hungry, but like the Seahawks really need to keep pace with the 49ers and all the wildcard teams in the NFC East. So the efficiency is so good. Even though the Panthers secondary has been playing a little bit better, I could see a game where Geno tosses a few touchdown passes. So we'll have to wait and see on that. But what we don't have to wait for, Mike, and I don't know that we're at 100 likes yet, but we're going to go ahead and do it anyway. Let's do your top three at each position. Are you ready for that? I am ready know that we're at 100 likes yet, but we're going to go ahead and do it anyway. Let's do your top three at each position. Are you ready for that?
Starting point is 00:53:48 I am ready for that. The only one that's a little, yeah, yeah, I'm ready for it. All right. So we do your top three at quarterback, running back, wide receiver, and tight end. And then we're going to do our cheat sheet, my cheat sheet, and then Mike's cheat sheet. And then we're going to just touch on showdown before we get out of here but mike without further ado let's get your top three at each position quarterback number one tyler huntley i love tyler huntley this week i don't think the drop off from lamar is as significant as people
Starting point is 00:54:22 think he's got a ton of rushing upside. Still. He's number one for me. Number two, Jared golf. I've decided I'm going to be slightly on the golf side. I think the scenarios where they are trailing and have to throw more are more likely still, despite being a home favorite in the game.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I like Joe burrow. Joe burrow is going to be number three, largely because I like the connection with Jamar chase. And I think this team is hitting on all cylinders right now. Really love them. Running back, Derrick Henry. For the record, I got to say, I endorse all three of those on Tuesday, Mike. I told you, and I'm so glad you brought up Derrick Henry first, because he's probably going to be in pretty much all my lives. But I told everybody I didn't think I was going to be on Tyler Huntley. Full disclosure, this is part of the reason I love the Thursday show.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I'm going to have to put him in some lines because, Mike, I'm convinced that when you said it might not be a big drop-off from Lamar, and it is a drop-off, obviously, but it might not be that significant. And I think even against a Pittsburgh defense that's been flying around a little bit, especially if T.J. Watt plays, I really do like that play. I like all three of those quarterbacks quite a bit. Those are probably my three favorite two in a different order,
Starting point is 00:55:28 but those are probably my three favorite two. And Geno Smith is somewhere lingering in that range as well. Yeah, and I will say, you know what, three or four weeks ago now, maybe more than four weeks ago, I almost had a six-figure day with Sam Ellinger scoring four fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:55:42 So you can get there with certain quarterbacks. We like quarterbacks like Huntley that have some upside, uh, with their legs. So that's where I'm going. Uh, all right, let's move to running back. Derek Henry, number one, uh, just absolute smash spot for him. 7,900. You get the discount. Uh, this is the matchup. He should be $9,000 and not some of the others. Uh, so I, I love Derek Henry. Uh, number two, I messed around a little bit with it. It looks like because I'm going to play Huntley, I'll get some more exposure here. Uh, it's going to be Dalvin cook. Uh, I like Dalvin cook in this matchup. I just, the usage is there. He can score in so many different ways. Uh, this projects is a really good spot for him. And then we'll go former Minnesota Viking and Raider and Saint and wherever else he's played.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Baltimore Raven Latavius Murray. We're going Denver Broncos. Look, they're going to be playing catch up. He is the guy there. I think he has five catches in the passing game here against Kansas City. I don't think a lot of people are going to go to it. I like the spot for Latavius Murray. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:45 And before you hit receiver, I do want to answer Oliver Orr's question. You might be late to the party here because we actually covered Chris Moore at some length. So you said, you asked, how do you feel about Chris Moore in GPPs if Nico Collins is out? It looks like Nico Collins is going to be out. We like Chris Moore a lot in that case at 3,400. Honestly, we know Brandon Cooks is out. I think it's possible I play Chris Moore, even if Nico Collins is in. So, but either way, I like Chris Moore quite a bit at 3,400. So Oliver, if you're new, hit the like button.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Thanks for your question, Mike. Now let's go to your top three receivers. Top three receivers. Number one, we're going to keep it chalky here. It's Amonra St. Brown. Love him in this matchup. The volume is there. Number two, Jamar Chase. And because everything is getting very expensive, number three, Chris Moore. I literally played him last week in two of the five lineups. I like Chris Moore again.
Starting point is 00:57:37 You can play Kendall Hinton. You can play Philip Dorsett. It's one of those three. I think that you're going to need to play them if you're trying to build lineups the way that Sia and I are going to this week. You're going to want to play one of those three, so I'll give them all to you. But again, at wide receiver, it's Amando St. Brown, Jamar Chase, Chris Moore, and then after the Chris Moore, you can either play Dorsett or Kendall Hinton. Okay, and tight end, your top three, top three at tight end.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Let's go. Mark Andrews, mostly because I'm pairing him with Tyler Huntley. Uh, not a lot of people want to play Mark Andrews for one, not a lot are going to want to play Tyler Huntley. They're certainly not playing them together. Um,
Starting point is 00:58:17 I like it a lot. Greg Dulcich, number two, everyone's going to play him, uh, not necessarily a free square, but on a slate where you need value he's going to be incredibly popular number three austin hooper for the tennessee titans this is a call out that i
Starting point is 00:58:34 like um i actually don't have any issue playing him in the same lineup as derrick henry um you might want to not but i don't have a problem doing it. Traylon Burks potentially out in this game. Hooper is someone that still has some chemistry with Ryan Tannehill. Their passing game doesn't really exist. Without Burks, it could be a situation where we see a lot of Derrick Henry, a lot of looking in the direction of Austin Hooper. Just a little call out there. I think Austin Hooper could have 15
Starting point is 00:59:05 fantasy points because he lands in the end zone here. All right. And I know that Noah Fant was somewhere on your radar at that honorable mention. Noah Fant right after Austin Hooper. All right. Sounds good. Okay. So that's your top three at each position and I'll do my cheat sheet, Mike, then we'll do yours and then we'll just touch on showdown just for a second of course that's tonight's game we got at the stack for me it's jared goff a a cheap inexpensive 5600 to amon ross saint brown 7800 uh value play is going to be chris moore for me the chalk play is going to be derrick henry uh we've talked about him at length and then my contrarian play and you know what it turns out it's not that contrarian after all, because Mike, you spoke to the fact that he could be as high as 10%. So it was going to be DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:59:50 It is DJ Moore right now because I don't want to change it now. But when we actually release our cheat sheet, I might have somebody else in there. That doesn't mean I don't like DJ Moore. I still like him, but I'd probably rather pick somebody whose ownership percentage looks to be tracking more in that like 4% to 5% range rather than the 9% to 10% range. So stack golf, tell mom, I was saying Brown value, Chris Moore chalk, Derek Henry, contrarian DJ more. And finally, my fate is going to be sake one Barkley. It's not
Starting point is 01:00:12 because he was, he's banged up and he was limited in practice today. Although that certainly helps. I just don't like sake one Barkley much in this matchup. Uh, so yeah, he's a fade for me at 8,000 that he's just not going to fit into any of my lines. Mike, you're a cheat sheet. Stack. Tyler Huntley to Mark Andrews. Value play. I don't want to double up on the value play. Chris Moore is my favorite value play. I want those of you who are at least watching it to get that message across.
Starting point is 01:00:38 But because we're not going to double up on it, I will say Kendall Hinton because I will be sprinkling in some Kendall Hinton as well. I think it's an interesting direct pivot away from Dulcich, who is going to be super popular. Obviously not playing the same position, but it still works. Chalk play, Almondo St. Brown. I'm not going to get super cute there. He's going to be in some of my lineups, so I like him quite a bit. Contrarian play, I mentioned Tyler Lockett. I think this is a fantastic spot for tyler lockett uh projects as the number one individual wide receiver cornerback matchup
Starting point is 01:01:09 on the week i think it's a great spot for him and then my fade there are a number of ways i can go with this one uh i wanted to get a little aggressive with it it's we're gonna fake garrett wilson he's still less than six thousand,000 coming off excellent games, being paired with Mike White, obvious trailing game script. Like there's all the volumes been there. Like all the reasons you typically don't want to fade someone. Uh, I'm going to fade Garrett Wilson in the spot. I think it could be a tough day. I think that at a price point up to $6,000, you're really looking for a hundred yards and a touchdown, uh, to, to pay that off. And I think that he has one of those frustrating four for 45 and no score kind of day.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So I'm going to fade Garrett Wilson. Okay. Fair enough. And you know, that makes sense. Now that he's 5,900, I'll probably still have a little bit of Garrett Wilson, but you know,
Starting point is 01:01:58 I guess it's Tyler Lockett at 6,500 to me. It's, you know, find the money to pay up to Tyler Lockett rather than playing Garrett Wilson at Buffalo. Okay. So we got showdown tonight, Mike, a couple of thoughts, maybe a couple, maybe contrarian players or players that people aren't really thinking of when they're filling out their showdown lineups. How do you think this game is going to go? We know, you know, the Raiders are, you know, slightly big favorites at the Rams. I'm not even sure who's playing for
Starting point is 01:02:22 the Rams at quarterback. It looks like it's probably going to be Wolford, but if it's not, it's going to be Baker Mayfield with, you know, 48 hours to learn the playbook. I mean, even good quarterbacks with 48 hours to learn the playbook probably won't play well in any NFL game, but bad quarterbacks, it just makes it that much worse. So how'd showdown plays, you know, how do you think this game is going to go? Yeah. I mean, showdown plays, look, you want Josh Jacobs and Devontae Adams in your lineup for sure. Really at all costs. Get them in there. Heavy volume for both.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I think you really want Daniel Carlson, the kicker, as well. Kickers are so important on showdown slates. He routinely puts up 10 fantasy points. Go find me anyone on the Rams side that routinely puts up 10 fantasy points. You really can't do it. So I like both kickers, frankly. And a lot of lineups you have to have, well, every lineup you must have one player
Starting point is 01:03:10 from each team minimum, right? So several of my top lineups have either Matt Gay, their kicker, or Tutu Atwal is the only player on the Ram side with 5-1 Raiders stacks. Being, you get Derek Carr, you get Devante Adams, you get Josh Jacobs, you get the kicker. Um, and then potentially one other spot, you're going to play Keelan Cole. You're going to play two, two at well, and Matt gay, things like that.
Starting point is 01:03:36 That's basically what some of your builds will look like. And in, you know, some of the more popular names like Higby or Van Jefferson or cam acres, are they pretty much out of all of your builds? Or is there one of those three at least that you're like, all right, I'll speculate on him? They're mostly out of the builds. I'm mostly, again, just playing the kicker. And Tutu Atwell would be the most popular. Very minimal exposure to Higby and Jefferson and Kyron Williams.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Trying to look, uh, yeah, it's Brandon Powell if he's active. Um, but yeah, it's mostly two, two, two, two outlaw and, uh, their kicker, Matt gay. I do have about 30% exposure to those two. Okay. And Derek Graham says, dang it. That was my sneaky play. Uh, you nailed my two, two play as well. He says, uh, Bruno says, thanks guys. Hope was my sneaky play. You nailed my tutu play as well, he says. Bruno says, thanks, guys. Hope you nailed it. I hope we nailed it too. And we're going to find out if we nailed it on Tuesday
Starting point is 01:04:32 when we do our recap of week 14. And when we look at our early pricing for week 15, we're getting up there. Everybody enjoy football while it's going, right? Because in a couple months, we're not going to have football. And that's going to be really sad. But you'll always have FFT DFS. We'll always be there for you.
Starting point is 01:04:49 We're there for you in the offseason, too, if you don't recall. So, Mike, any final words heading into this Week 14 slate? Any final sage advice for the listeners? Just stay tuned to Injuries. If you're following us on Sportsline, whether you have the Sportsline subscription, you'll be able to see my final player pool projections, all that. If you don't, you still want to watch the show. Sia will be on the show right before kickoff.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I'm sure you will update any last minute info there. And like you said, enjoy the football. You might think this Thursday game is horrible. This Rams team plays the Broncos on Christmas day. Ooh, ouch. That one could be a bad one. This one's not that bad. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Not a very Merry Christmas there. So good advice from Mike. And by the way, I'll be on the early edge tonight to preview that Thursday night football game in an hour and a half at seven 30. We have our prop show tomorrow at four o'clock. And again, Mike referenced it, the final bets show where I actually try to incorporate, I could incorporate all my prop bets, but bets, but some last minute DFS advice, maybe some weather that's going to come into play. So definitely tune into that 12 o'clock
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