Fantasy Football Today - NFL DFS Week 14 Preview: Main Slate Lineups, Picks, Stacks and Ownership (FFT DFS)
Episode Date: December 6, 2024Join our Week 14 DFS Game! How's your bankroll looking as we head down the final stretch of the NFL's regular season? If it's a little light, let Sia Nejad, Mike McClure and Meg Shoup help get it ri...ght with their advice as they tackle the week 14 main slate. 01:20 - Falcons (+6) at Vikings (46) 05:42 - Saints (-4.5) at Giants (41) 08:41 - Jaguars (+3.5) at Titans (39.5) 12:33 - Jets (+6) at Dolphins (45) 17:31 - Raiders (+6.5) at Buccaneers (46.5) 23:50 - Panthers (+12.5) at Eagles (46) 30:39 - Seahawks (+3) at Cardinals (44.5) 35:14 - Bears (+4) at 49ers (44) 38:45 -Bills (-3.5) at Rams (49.5) 41:58 - Meg's Cheat Sheet 43:06 - Sia's Cheat Sheet 44:00 - Mike's Top 3 Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What's up everybody and welcome to Fantasy Football today. DFS. I'm joined as always
by Mike McClure and Meg Schaup. We were just talking before we went live about how my Bryce Young lineups did
really well. Could have done better, could have had some outrides. Hopefully some of you had
Bryce Young. I mean listen, I tied him, Meg, to David Morne and he had some drops. He didn't have
a great game by any means. If I had done that sack with Adam Thielen though, different ball game.
Anyway, how are you today? I'm doing great. You know, week 14 we got a lot of buys. This is
really interesting. Makes the slate very, very interesting and nuanced. But no, I'm doing great. You know, week 14, we got a lot of buys. This is really interesting. It makes the slate very, very interesting and nuanced, but no, I'm doing great and ready
to talk for week 14 with you guys.
Gregoose Hayes, Mike, he says, I skipped the gym on Thursdays during football season just
so I can catch this show live. Mike, your reaction to that?
I love it. If this were like an early edge episode, I would say, give me a set of something every time we get a by the way,
but we're not doing that here. So we'll see.
Well, maybe we'll come up with something and get a little workout in during this episode.
I am the king of by the way and for the record.
I just can't get it out of my speech during this show.
So if you guys want to do a counter as in like count how many times I do that like it's
It's like the line on each of those is four and a half and it's juiced heavily to the over
All right. Let's talk about the Falcons plus six at the bikes. We're gonna get right into it
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Falcons plus six at the Vikings, 46 point total.
You know, Meg, this is a pretty high total,
but I don't really have a lot of interest in this game.
I totally understand if people want to go back
to Bajan Robinson.
I was on him last week, it paid off.
Drake London is interesting, a chalky piece.
And on the Viking side, you can attack this Falcons defense.
I've just so far haven't found myself getting anywhere
in this game.
How about you?
I do have some interest in Darnold Jefferson's stacks.
You could add TJ Hawkinson to that.
So I do have some interests there.
Herbert in the same spot let me down massively last week,
but I think it's fine to go back to it
with Darn Arnold and Jefferson.
All right, Mike, what do you think on this one? Is this a spot that we should have a
lot of interest in? I like TJ Hawkinson at 4,300. It's hard to say no to that. I'm a
no to Drake London at 6,400. There's just other receivers I like. I'm a no to Bajan
Robinson. Aaron Jones only 6,500. Justin Jefferson 7,800. What say you?
Yeah, I think this is one that I want to try to get some pieces in. I think it really is kind of
game script dependent. Like we know you can play Darnold and Jefferson. I like that a lot.
I like Drake London a little bit here on the other side. I think that we could have scenarios
where this Falcons team really is trailing, you know, seven, 10, 12 points somewhere in that range.
But having the ability to kind of throw the football over the middle of the field, again,
a dome perfect conditions. That's the baseline for this team. That's what I want to look to attack
them. So for me, I think it's going to be Drake London, you see the last game 16 targets, it's
just a target thing. It's just a volume thing. You know, if you get 16 targets,
do I, am I happy with no touchdowns and 86 yards?
No, I'm not, right?
But with 16 targets, there's certainly the upside
for 150 in a touchdown.
And that's probably more likely, frankly,
with 16 targets and nine receptions,
like nine receptions, 86 yards and no touchdowns
is essentially the floor if you're getting that kind of volume, right?
So yeah for me, I'm looking at Drake London here at 6400 that kind of volume again, whether it's repeatable or not
We'll see I think the game script makes it that way
If you can pencil them in for even 75% of that the price point should be 7400 not 6400
I think what scares me in this one is what everybody saw last week or what the people
have seen the last few weeks with Kirk Cousins.
It's like, what's going on with his shoulder, with his arm, with his plant foot?
I have no idea what the situation is there, but Mike, you're right.
I didn't think Minnesota was impressive last week.
They ended up somehow beating Arizona, but the point is I think Minnesota could absolutely
kind of rock Kirk
Cousins in company. If we see anything of what we saw from Kirk Cousins last week, and
to your point, that means a lot of Drake London, just a lot of the receiver corps. So I totally
understand the volume argument real quick, because I don't want to just gloss over Bajan
Robinson. Are we in or out? Mike, I'll start with you and then Meg, and then we'll move
on to the next game. Mike, are you in or out on Bajan Robinson? I'm looking right now.
I'm running a brand new set.
So let's see.
I've got a little bit.
I've got around 10% the ownership showing about 12 to 14.
So just kind of right in line.
When I see a situation like that,
it's one that I am fine playing.
And like, if you like Bajan,
that ownership's not scary at all. And I'm getting
enough of him when the computer wants me to play it. So yeah, I think that he is fine. I like the
price point at $7,500. Again, I think that's why the ownership is where it is. It's not an obvious
play in the spot. Yeah, I don't mind Bichon at all here. All right, Meg, how about you? Yeah,
I would agree with Mike that I'm interested.
I don't think he's going to be one of my main pieces,
but I definitely have interest with similar to London,
his volume as well.
Yeah, it makes sense.
In my first builds, these are hand builds that I built.
I didn't have Bijan Robinson in those lineups.
I did sneak Saquon Barkley into those lineups, though.
And I mean, you know, I could drop Saquon, put in Bajan,
and then, you know, have 1500 left over
to kind of do whatever I want with.
So it's just a thought there.
All right, let's go to Saints Giants.
This is a pretty pedestrian total, 41.
You know, the Saints without Taysom Hill,
that certainly hurt a lot of us
who were kind of all in on Taysom Hill last week.
And we've got Alvin Kamara at 8K, so no Taysom.
It should mean big things for Alvin Kamara.
Juwan Johnson's only 3400.
That makes a lot of sense.
I'm not in on this receiver core on the other side.
I'm out on Malik neighbors, but Tyrone Tracy at 5800
makes a lot of sense.
Pretty good matchup. Giants at home.
Tyrone Tracy, a great running back, in my opinion.
Mike, I'll start with you.
Are you in on anyone in this game?
I don't think so. On this initial run, I'm trying to find anyone.
I don't think so. I think losing Taysom Hill really hurts this team
just from a real life football standpoint, you know, and not really
bullish on the passing game.
Like if you think you can continue to hit the deep shot, then, you
know, go play it, right?
Good luck. On the Giants side, there's just so little to play for
at this point in the season.
I'm not getting anywhere so far right now.
Things could change, but as of right now,
I'm talking like nobody.
I'm scrolling, scrolling, scrolling,
and I don't have anybody in this game.
Meg, I know that Alvin Kamara is going to be really popular.
He's showing up in a lot of stuff.
I think I'm actually out on Alvin Kamara.
While I do think he's going to enjoy the volume
and I do think it's a good matchup,
I just think there's some low priced options
and some high priced options
that I'm going to end up going to,
especially at Alvin Kamara's expected ownership.
But I get playing him 100% of the volume is there.
So are you in on Alvin Kamara and anybody else in this game? Similar to you, I get playing him 100% of the volume is there. So are you in on Alvin
Kamar and anybody else in this game? Similar to you, I get the point for it. Obviously,
Alvin Kamar should be the main piece in this game or for the Saints. However, I have like you,
like other higher price guys, whether they're chalky or not, probably a little better. So I
don't know how much I'd get to him, but I do get why he is popular and popular for a lot of people.
And then I do have interest in Jawan Johnson
at that cheap price tag.
Similar to Mike, I don't really have any interest
in the giant side, but if looking for cheap pieces,
Jawan Johnson with Alteson Hill makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, I think I'm going to be, first of all, Meg,
you're the sort of the low end,
the low price tight end whisperer.
I love those cheap tight ends.
Yeah. And I think Jawan Johnson makes sense. We saw the volume there last week and I don't
think that's necessarily going to be consistent. But with no real reliable wide receiver targets
and no taste in Hale, it does seem like they're going to rely on Jawan Johnson a little bit
more. Certainly has some touchdown equity, especially in this game against the Giants.
I might expect Derek Hardack at at least have a decent game.
I'll point out he's 5100.
You can do a lot with your lineups with throwing in a receiver and Juwan Johnson or just or
just stacking him with with Derek Carr with Juwan Johnson.
I'm not doing that because I have other low price quarterbacks that I want to play that
you're going to hear about.
But certainly don't hate that play.
All right.
Let's move on to another game that has a pretty low total, Jags and the Titans.
This one, Mike, I'll start with you.
It doesn't have a ton of interest to me outside,
and we know Mack Jones is starting
at quarterback for Jacksonville.
I do think Calvin Ridley at 5,700,
and I can't believe I'm saying it,
but Nick Westbrook-Akine at 4,700.
Both of these guys can explode, we've seen that.
And so I have interest in both of them.
I think I'm more inclined to pay up for Calvin Ridley at 5,700,
but this isn't a great game, right?
But Jacksonville's defense is terrible.
Do you like anybody on the Tennessee side or anybody in this game in general?
I like the Titans defense and I like Pollard.
Just the two correlations there.
You know, 6,400 for Tony Pollard is always
interesting. I'm getting a lot of them though, because I think that he's going to have the
opportunity. They've let him touch the football quite a bit. And I also think that they could
be ahead in this game. And I think this team has maybe learned their lesson a little bit.
Again, this Titans team, while they're not a great team by any means, there were situations early in
this season where if they had turned around
and handed the football off or literally taken a knee, they would have three more
wins on their record right now.
Uh, and I think that they've learned from that.
So if they're in a situation late, I think this is all Tony Pollard here.
Um, I like him quite a bit in this game.
So it's 6,400.
I get that there's other guys in that range, um, in terms of running backs, but I like him quite a bit. And that'll be my first piece. You can continue to play Calvin Ridley if you want, you can try and play Will Levis. If you think the Jags can push back here. We mentioned it last week, Will Levis is a little bit like Jameis Winston, not the deep ball threats necessary. I mean, he's got the deep ball, but it's not the massive, massive upside, but he's someone who can definitely
sling it around. And if he's playing one of those games where
he has the turnover, that's just meaning more throwing passing
attempts for him. So I don't mind Levis here, but mostly
Pollard and Titans only.
Okay, I'm going to make this statement right now, because
Jamus isn't on the slate, right? He's the most exciting player in
the NFL right now. He's on the slate. Oh, he is on the slate. right? He's the most exciting player in the NFL right now.
He's on the slate.
Oh, he is on the slate.
Sorry.
I was thinking, what was it?
Monday night that they played.
Okay.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, Jamis is the most exciting player in football right now in every way.
Like any way you want to interpret that word exciting.
Uh, he, he qualifies absolutely loved the Jamis Winston experience.
Meg, the Tony Pollard argument is excellent. 6400 is a reasonable price, a potentially positive game script here. And
the Will Levis argument, like you're no stranger to liking Will Levis. I mean, that stack to
either of those two receivers certainly makes sense. Brian Thomas on the other side, Evan
Ingram on the other side. Any interest in this game?
Actually, yes. And I think Mike makes a great point about Pollard. I think he would be kind of a leverage play off
of the Levis stacks, because I think the Levis stacks will
be popular just because of the price point.
And even if you wanted to include
Conquo in that stack, you know, Levis, Ridley,
I mean, the Nick Westbrook, Kikini stuff is just wild to me.
Just how many touchdowns he gets on the lack of volume.
I don't think I can go there.
But maybe he'll keep he'll keep burning us.
But if you wanted to do I do like
Levis Ridley, a concho as like a cheap sack.
But I think a lot of people do.
So I do think Pollard could be a fun leverage play. Maybe I'm biased.
I do need some levels.
Love us Ridley in my best ball shares for the week 14 push to the playoffs.
So could be a little biased there.
But I do think it makes sense in this
game attacking the Jaguars defense and on the other side
love Brian Thomas Jr. in the spot. Absolutely love Brian
Thomas Jr. I think and then I might just have some interest in
like Ridley Brian Thomas Jr. like skinny stacks like that.
That makes sense. I mean, you know, it's funny, like Nick
Westbrook at Kane and Marcus Valdez-Scantling, like the way it's going, they could, they could have a total of four or five,
uh, receptions and have like two or three touchdowns in a combined 150 yards.
I'm not saying you should play that. NWI MVS, a very interesting acronym,
uh, riddled DFS lineup that you can put in there if you're,
if you're really daring in a tournament. All right,
let's go to
The Jets lost season versus the Dolphins 45 point total Jets are six point dogs. This one's in Miami
The condition conditions should be pretty good
H& 8200 Tyree kill Mike Tyree kills only 7100 but then again John new Smith 5300
He's like the wide receiver one. It feels like. Jalen Waddle, 5400.
What do you like in this game?
On the other side, we've got Devontae, Garrett Wilson.
I'm not interested in any of them.
Breece Hall, we have to monitor.
I feel like this is the Miami side or nothing.
What do you say, Mike?
Yeah, Miami side or nothing.
I think it's a great time to potentially play A-chan again.
Look, he's more expensive than Alvin Kamara.
Alvin Kamara is going to be chalky.
I don't necessarily love Kamara outdoors
in that particular matchup.
So I think this is another spot to potentially
just onslaught Miami.
Run it back like we have a couple of times,
at least I have, which is just Tua, A-Chan, and Johnu
all in the same lineup
and just collect all those offensive points.
This projects as a spot where, again again you see a total of 45 wouldn't shock me if the Dolphins score 28 to 31 in this game
See, I like the Miami side quite a bit and I still would play Tyreek as long as he's out there
Yeah, I think Meg last I checked Tyreeks not getting much ownership and I kind of why, but all the more reason to play him for sealing potential
and 7,100 is just such a low price.
I say that to you knowing that Johnnu Smith
is the most appealing person, like at 5,300.
So how are you playing the Miami side
or are you even playing the Miami side?
Yeah, my guy Johnnu is up to what, 52, 5,300.
So his price is up, but he's been like the tight end one,
like the last six or seven weeks combined, I believe. So,
you know, you certainly could go back to John who I think John is
in my pool. As you said, I like to typically pay down there are
a couple pay up spots at tight end, if not likely be paying
down in that Chigokanku, John, John Johnson range. So the one
point I'm keeping them are monitoring is the Breeze Hall injury or Breeze Hall injury report.
And if Breyland Allen becomes the option here, if Breeze Hall were to sit, I have a ton of interest in
Breyland Allen because he can catch passes, you know, just his utilization.
So Breyland Allen would be the piece if only if Breeze Hall is out.
And then probably Johnna would be
in my pool, but don't know how much I'll get there.
Okay, and just to be clear,
if we're playing Miami Dolphins stacks or onslaughts,
are we running it back?
I mean, I understand the Braylon Allen argument, Meg,
but if you're playing it to a stack,
and I'll ask you the same question, Mike,
are we running it back with anybody?
Let's assume Brice Hall's healthy for this Mike, are we running it back with anybody? Let's assume Brice Hall is healthy for this one.
Are we running it back with anybody?
I'm not running it back.
Okay.
Yeah, it would be just Miami onslaughts.
And I will say looking at some of the projected ownership here, I think HN is going to get
a little ownership, maybe 10%.
Tua, I'm projecting 1%. Tyreek, 1%. So you're talking slow single digits on that
stack if you want to go that way.
That's incredible. I mean, Tua to Tyreek, what-
I would recommend if you're going to play Achan, I would pair him with Tua. Just for
Achan to hit the ceiling, it's got to come through passing work. He's not getting three
goal line rushing touchdowns.
Right. So I would bring Tua along for that ride at 1% for sure.
So, in other words, would you do Tua and H-Chan
without Tyreek or would you put them both in a Tua lineup?
Tua and H-Chan without Tyreek,
like the build that I've been playing a lot
that's had a lot of success was Tua, H-Chan and Jono.
And again, if Tyreek goes nuts,
you're getting some of that exposure through a low-own Tua. So yeah, that's the way I would build it.
Yeah. All right. Well, part of the reason guys like Tua have such low ownership is because
there's so many quarterbacks that are really cheap that people want to play. We've already
talked about a few of them. Well, I don't think a lot of people are talking
about the next guy that is my favorite quarterback
on the slate that is super low priced,
shades of Bryce Young last week.
Can't wait to talk about this game.
It's my favorite game on the slate,
but you gotta wait,
because we've got to hear a message from our partners.
All right, we're back on fantasy football today, DFS.
Meg and Mike, the Bryce Young thing. It worked last week.
I had a great week and it was because again, he was paired with David Moore who was like
very average, but it allowed me, that stack allowed me to do so much.
Now I don't have the same situation here because Aiden O'Connell, AKA AOC, his receiver core,
like the people I want to pair him with Brock Bauer, 6,500, Jacoby Myers, 5,600.
I don't get that David Moore price tag, right?
But I absolutely love AOC at 4,800.
I'm 100% playing him.
We got to keep an eye on the other side
because Mike Evans popped up on the injury report.
Could be just a rest day on Wednesday.
We'll see about Thursday's practice report.
It is notable though that he pulled up
on that injury report with a hamstring,
which is totally normal because he's had that all year, but a calf was added to that so again we have to be cautious
with looking at these injury reports whether Mike Evans plays or not and I do expect him to play
I love this Aiden O'Connell stack a double stack single stack with either Jacobi or Brock Bauer so
Meg I'm going to start with you do you like this as much as I do or perhaps are you on the other
side because Baker Mayfield's only 6400.
Oh, I should say he is 6400.
Mike Evans, 7200.
How you playing this one?
Yeah, I'm like you.
I have a lot of interest in this game overall.
I actually do like the other side a little more.
You know, Tampa has a ton to play for.
It was way too close for comfort for them last week.
They have a lot to play for.
They can win the NFC South, obviously.
And so I really do like Baker, Mike Evans,
of course, big asterisks, if Mike Evans is indeed healthy,
because that is something we do have to monitor closely.
You could also go to Baker, Mike Evans, Kate Otten,
or if Mike Evans was out, certainly Kate Otten.
Very good matchup for him here against the Raiders.
So I do like the other side, but I like your point on the Aiden O'Connell side.
And I totally get it.
And it likely will be in my pool, just not as high as some of the other quarterback stacks.
Love the Aiden O'Connell again, because it's the condensed target share
where we're just targeting Brock Bowers, Jacoby Myers.
So that's why I love this game in general.
Then you throw in Bucky Irving again, watched the injury report.
He's quit currently questionable as well.
So lots of monitor here,
but like you love this game in general.
Mike, isn't this everything we want in a DFS situation?
We've got a team that has an implied total
that's not super low.
It's around 20.
I'm talking about the Raiders.
We've got a very, very likely negative game script.
We got options on both sides to bring it back.
We got a quarterback that's coming off a 300 plus yard game and two touchdowns.
And oh, by the way, before he got injured and Minshew was reinserted,
he looked pretty good in that game too.
So I don't think it's necessarily a flash in the pan.
I mean, maybe 340 yards is but this checks all the boxes.
And Meg said the most important thing, the condensed target share.
It's literally like Jacoby Myers Brock Bowers anders, and like, that's kind of it.
So I just love that side.
Do you love this game as much as I do?
I do. Yeah.
I look, I think it's certainly going to grab some ownership,
you know, for, for a good reason, right?
So I'm showing Aiden O'Connell up to 17%.
I can get behind that.
If he gets up to 30 to 40,
I might just play his pieces in Brock Bowers and Jacoby, but I like it. I think that what's interesting on this
slate is the fact that, uh, we have a severe lack in my opinion of playable
top end quarterbacks, right? So you don't get homes, you don't get Lamar here.
You get Josh Allen at the top, but then you get Jalen Hertz, but Hertz is in
that blowout game likely against the Carolina Panthers.
So I like Aiden O'Connell.
I think a lot of people are going to go that direction on the builds. Doesn't mean that I'm not going to play him.
I certainly am, but I'm mostly going to focus on Bowers and Jacoby Myers here.
Not to pivot back too much, but the reason why two is projecting at 1% back on that other game. Two is the fourth most expensive quarterback now this week.
We're talking about a guy that was like 14th most expensive a week ago, two weeks ago,
just a product of how slates change like that, right?
So like I like Aiden O'Connell.
My only concern is it's such a strong play that we could see a lot of ownership really
concentrate there.
Fair enough.
And let me ask you this, Mike, is the expectation
that most of those lineups that are playing Aiden O'Connell, is it that they're taking one of the
two main pieces or double stack? I would imagine it's taking one of the two main pieces. Does that
mean double stacking it might be the way to get a little different? I would almost definitely double
stack it and I would almost definitely game stack it. So I think that you're gonna want,
but again, I think it's still gonna be a popular build, but one that's gonna project extremely
well is gonna be AOC, Myers, Bowers and Mike Evans. That's gonna be a very popular build.
And my concern is, is we have Isaac Arendo for the 49ers, just a free square at 5,400.
My concern is, is now you've got five of your lineup spots
that are 30 plus percent owned in a lot of your tournaments.
That is my only, only concern here.
Meg, you mentioned Bucky Irving.
Obviously this show has been on him for quite some time.
And he's a great option against this Raiders defense,
but the hip injury does concern me a little bit. How much does it concern you? Cause my, my guess is he's a great option against this Raiders defense. But the hip injury does concern me a little bit.
How much does it concern you?
Cause my, my guess is he's going to be active and there's going to be coach
speak that's like Bucky Irving's good to go full allotment of snaps,
but we're going to see kind of what we saw at the end of the Carolina game
where he kind of came in, but then Rashad white came in.
Like I think Bucky could have played overtime personally,
but I think they just opted to go with Rashad white.
That's just my impression here. I feel like Bucky Irving played overtime personally, but I think they just opted to go with Rashad White.
That's just my impression here.
I feel like Bucky Irving is going to be really popular, but just this particular week with
that hip pointer or that hip injury may not get as many carries.
If he's active, are you playing him or are you going to read into it like I just did?
It does make me nervous.
And that's honestly why I like the Baker Mike Evans stack is one of my favorites.
Again, Mike, if Mike Evans is okay,
or the Baker K. in stack,
because then it's kind of like that leverage spot
or just then it takes me, I mean, not that you,
we know you can stack with,
especially Bucky Irvin has been getting targets too.
So, but I think I would just then side
with really the passing game.
Okay, Grey Goose Hayes has a question.
Michael, give this one to you.
Aiden O'Connell or Tua in
cash? Aiden O'Connell. Tua is definitely not in consideration in cash this week. It would be a
tournament only play for me. And again, speaking to the product of the slate, Baker Mayfield that
we're talking about in this game is the third most expensive quarterback on the slate on DraftKings.
And he has not scored 20 fantasy points in four consecutive games.
So that click may not be as popular as some may think.
So I personally like building it with the,
it's very expensive relative to Aiden O'Connell,
but I think you could play Baker with Jacoby
and Brock Bowers and there's always a scenario
that Baker just simply still outscores Aiden O'Connell. Yeah, makes sense. All right.
Let's move on to the Panthers and the Eagles,
not exactly as exciting of a matchup given the 12 and a half point spread total
though is 46 and the implied total for the Eagles is, is 29.
We see these sometimes with Detroit games where it's a widespread and people are
like, they just want to be off it, but they're really not paying,
paying enough attention to the implied point total
So Mike, I'm gonna start with you. These guys are really expensive
Nonetheless, say Kwan Barkley probably gonna be pretty popular because there is some value on the slate. He's 9k
I'm out on the eagle side outside of say Kwan Barkley. What say you? Yeah, I'm gonna be out on it
I'm not even gonna play say Kwan. I don't think at this point
I think that they would be
extremely wise to not get him hurt in this game, considering where everything is. I think that we
could see a little more gain. Well, I think we could see some more packages with Shipley. If you
watched the last game, Shipley was actually had a play early in that game. To me, I don't think they
want to put anything else on film here. So I'm off of this one personally.
Yeah, Meg, this makes sense.
I think Carolina is getting enough of sort of a bump in the industry for people to at
least want to consider some Carolina receivers.
I'm off all of them though.
I think this is a really tough matchup.
I think one of these guys, Jalen Coker is going to be back for this game.
I think one or two of these guys is definitely going to get some sort of low end volume, but I think I agree with Mike. I mean, I don't mind being out
on St. Quentin. I'll probably play him here and there, but this is a game I'm kind of moving on
from, but it's scary, right? Because it's a 30 point total of those for the Eagles. So what are
you doing in this game, if anything? Yeah, on the Panthers side, I'm out. This Eagles defense looks
elite and I'm not messing with the Panthers. On the Eagles side, they are, you know,
pretty run heavy. Jalen Hurts volume is down because they are just so efficient. Saquon is
so efficient. Saquon is, I will say, I get the concern of, you know, watching Saquon's volume and
everything, but he is chasing some records. And I've heard, you know, truth be told, I've heard
this from other content in the industry this week, kind of debating that very thing. He's chasing some records. Do the Eagles and Saquon go
for that? Or do they kind of, you know, pull it back and monitor his workload? I think
that is a fair question. We don't know. I don't know. But I'm just, you know, I do think
that is in consideration. And obviously, he just has an elite matchup with a very positive
game script. You do worry if they're up by so much
as he's sitting in the fourth quarter
like he has in some other games
to Mike's point with GameWell and Shipley getting run.
So I think there's just a lot to unpack there.
With all that said, I am gonna play some Barclay.
So it's kind of, you know,
I think like a lot of people was gonna have
a preloaded lineup of Garendo and Barclay,
but I'll just have to find ways to get different elsewhere.
Yeah, and practice reports are going to dictate
whether some of these guys are as popular
as they end up being.
I'm kind of referring, going back to that Bucks game as well,
but we'll have to wait and see on that.
But yeah, I agree with that analysis.
I think Mike has me convinced to pretty much be off
of this game a little bit of Saquon for me though.
Mike, go ahead.
I should see the question in the chat.
No, we're not benching Saquon.
You have to definitely separate
season long fantasy from DFS.
There's 0% chance you would ever bench Saquon Barkley.
There is a big chance you would not pay 8,200
or whatever the price point is in DFS though.
Yeah, good point.
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All right. Let's move on to this is the last of the one o'clock games
There's seven one o'clock three four o'clock like we had last week James Winston on the slate
Kind of love that he but he's playing at Pittsburgh. This one's gonna be interesting
Pittsburgh's implied total pretty high here
It's a 43 and a half point total, but Pittsburgh implied for around 25 points. Not a game,
Meg, that I've really looked at in terms of wanting to play anybody. Najee Harris,
it's notable, is only 6K. George Pickens up there at 6,800. The other side I think is interesting
to people because of what they saw with Jerry Judy at 5 5700. It does appear, actually I could be wrong.
My thought is Cedric Tillman is going to play, but maybe you all have information.
I don't know that he actually has gotten a practice in Elijah Moore's 4,800.
Jamari Thrash got some run.
David and Joku 5100.
I don't think I'm going to hop back on any of these receivers, Meg, given that
it's at Pittsburgh and that, yeah, I'm just not expecting the same output.
What, what say you on this one?
I'm like you.
I absolutely love the Jameis Winston experience.
When the matchup dictates, I will have a lot of him in DFS and in the prop market and everything.
Steelers defense is one that I'm not necessarily going to go to and there are other just spots
for quarterbacks this week.
So don't know that I'll get to a James stack, but I got it.
If someone wanted to do it, I wouldn't fault them for it.
Cause look what he did against the Denver defense.
So I actually have some interest in Russ and Pickens.
I mean, I'm coming off a massive, massive game
and Russ put up, you know, I think 280 in the snow.
So I actually have, do have some interest in, in Wilson
and Pickens in this game.
Okay, and I'm reading updates right now, Mike. These are from yesterday regarding Cedric Tillman.
I don't think he practiced Wednesday, so we'll have to see. You know, he's almost two weeks removed from his concussion.
So we'll have to see if he practices Thursday. If he's out, do you go right back to Jerry Judy at 5700 or Elijah Moore 4800? Probably not. I don't mind, Judy, it does seem that they're
going to continue to target him at least, which is encouraging.
It's important to remember not all targets are created equally,
especially in this particular matchup and with Jameis throwing
them. And Joku is interesting at times as well in tournaments.
But for me, this will personally be just that same. It's very
similar to me to the Titans game. And that what I'm really interested in here is the running back
DST correlation. It's going to be Najee Harris and the Steelers D. I would play those two together,
just like I would play the Titans and Pollard together. Other than that, for me, it's just
going to be Najee Steelers D and I'm out. All right. Makes sense.
I don't think we need to spend any more time on that one, especially when we've
got three, four o'clock games to cover that are all actually maybe two out of the
three are interesting.
One is very interesting to me and it's the next one we're going to cover.
It's the Seahawks and the Cardinals and we'll cover it right after this
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DFS, apex fuzzies asking about Njoku and Chubb. Not I'm not playing either of them. It doesn't sound like they're on Meg or Mike's
list. There are other tight ends I want to play, frankly, not really targeting Njoku at Pittsburgh.
And you've heard some of the tight ends. We talked about Brock Bowers, some cheap tight ends.
So I might even have some two tight end lineups. They will not include David Njoku. I'm definitely
out on Chubb. All right, Seattle Seahawks at the Arizona Cardinals.
Mike, I'm going to start with you.
First of all, I'll say this.
I really like Arizona to win and cover in this game.
I love Arizona at home.
I think Seattle is good, particularly since the buy.
I think they're a little broken on offense personally.
And I, from a DFS standpoint, maybe you disagree.
I don't really want to invest in anybody on the Seattle side.
Arizona, slightly different story.
What do you think? Yeah, I think there to invest in anybody on the Seattle side. Arizona, slightly different story.
What do you think?
Yeah, I think there is a couple little spots you can invest on the Seattle side, depending
on the injury report.
But I love Kyler Murray.
Going to be one of my favorite plays this week.
This is the cheapest price tag you've seen on Kyler Murray this year.
Maybe the cheapest of his career ever as a full-time starter.
Down to 6K here.
Just a flat 6K,
season on the line in a sense here.
They win this game, it's a huge, huge deal for them.
They get to do it at home in a perfect,
in a dome and controlled environment.
And he's got a natural stacking partner that I just love.
And it's gonna be Trey McBride.
He's got 27 targets in the last two games.
Gonna continue to play him here.
Yes, I will be playing two tight end lineups with the ride receivers named
Trey McBride and Brock Bowers, uh, in the tight end flex position.
So I like both of those guys.
I love the fact that Bowers is on the slate and everyone wants to play Bowers
quarterback because that's going to push more ownership to Bowers than McBride.
Um, I love Trey McBride here.
He's essentially a free square in this matchup,
the way Seattle wants to defend.
As far as bring backs,
I always have interest in important games in DK Metcalf
because of the upside and big playability.
He was a limited participant.
He's dealing with a shoulder injury.
I don't love the shoulder injury
because of how physical he is
and the way he tries to break tackles.
I don't love dealing with that. However, I think this is a decent spot to back him.
We haven't seen an explosive game from him
really since the first two weeks of the season.
But I think that with the season on the line here in the sense,
just a huge matchup, I could have some interest here
at what feels like a low point in his salary as well.
This is definitely he's right back to week two
where he was 5,900 on the road at New England.
I like the price point.
Meg, I think I totally agree.
First of all, two things.
I like Kyler Murray a lot.
If I had a top three and you'll hear our cheat sheets
in Mike's top three in just a couple of minutes,
but Kyler Murray would definitely be in the top three.
Probably number two behind Aiden O'Connell,
maybe Baker Mayfield's in that conversation as well.
I love Trey McBride and I really love what Mike said about Trey
McBride and Bowers. You get to play those two, in air quotes, receivers in the tight
end slot or in a quote, double tight end lineup, you get Trey McBride and Brock Bowers and
they function very much like top end receivers. So take advantage of that when you can, is
my advice there. But do you like Kyler Murray as well? Will you be stacking in? Will there be a runback?
I'm out on Kyler Murray, I am a little gun shy from this game being solo scoring just a couple weeks ago. So I don't know if it's more
that or just more, you know, I've listed probably four other quarterback stacks that I'm really interested in. So you got to narrow
down. And so I think I just like those other quarterback stacks and price points together more.
I like the individual pieces in this game,
treating Trey McBride like a wide receiver,
whether you're in double tight end lineups or not.
I kind of like JSN.
And I was never a JSN girl this basketball season,
you know, to be full disclosure.
Didn't even play much in the beginning of the season,
but I've kind of come on board
with his volume and everything.
So have a little interest in JSSN and McBride individually.
And then that's kind of it for me in this game.
I certainly like the Kyler Murray,
Trey McBride, JSN bring back.
I think if you want to get cute with it
on the afternoon slate, you can add Marvin Harrison to it.
I personally don't think you need to double stack
Kyler Murray in general.
I don't think you need to do that too much, but I
think in the afternoon slate, you could do that if you think Seattle, like the wheels fall off on the
defense, but I do got to give that defense a little bit of credit. They've been pretty great since the
by, I think going into Arizona is going to be a different problem for them though. Let's go
speaking of problems. Wow. San Francisco 49ers host to Chicago bears, a host of problems for each of
these teams. Mike, you mentioned it. Isaac Garendo, pretty much the free square at 5,400.
I mean, I would imagine Patrick Taylor will steal some carries,
but it's the Isaac Guarendo show, most likely.
Deebo, 5,900.
Jawan Jennings, a paltry 5,200.
And then on the other side, got to monitor practice reports.
DJ Moore, a little dinged up.
He's 6,100.
Caleb Williams, only 5,600.
Mike, what do you like in this game?
Yeah, I mean, Guerrero's definitely the free scorer, 5,400.
I like Joanne Jennings, he's gonna be popular as well,
but could certainly get to him in this particular matchup.
I think the interesting side is probably still
maybe some Caleb Williams stacks.
Caleb's really, really, really turned it on of late.
We've seen some of the upside that he has.
He's still extremely cheap at 5,600.
But Gerindo definitely, as you're seeing on the screen here,
if you're watching on YouTube, this is definitely
going to be the free score.
The thing about San Francisco is no one replaces Christian
McCaffrey, right?
We watched Gordon Mason fill in and absolutely crush.
We've watched Gerendo step in and absolutely crush.
It is a product of the system a lot.
So for me, I think that this is one
where he's going to have success.
Meg, any thoughts on Gerendo, but also the receiving core?
I mean, Debo at $5,900 does seem like there's some value there.
Juwan Jennings at $5,200 certainly
value if we think Brock Purdy is any semblance
of the classic of Brock Purdy.
Do you like anything on either side?
Yeah, definitely think Isaac Rindo
is a free square here, I agree with Mike,
and definitely he will be kind of preloaded
in my lineup as he will for a lot of people.
But I can see like a Brock Purdy stack
kind of being a little more contrarian.
I don't know.
I've seen Deebo and some of the other ones getting some ownership.
So I don't know that I have interest in like them individually.
But if you want to do like a Purdy stack with the receivers, I do think that could be interesting.
Again, I like so many other stacks that I don't know that I'll do that.
But I think Kittle could be low owned.
I think there could be some low owned pieces in game, because Garendo is going to
garner so much ownership. And then on the other side, I really
want to pay attention to DeAndre Swift, practice report or excuse
me, injury report, because both the running backs are currently
questionable. I don't think Roshan Johnson would play with a
coming off a concussion. So I think we need to really watch
DeAndre Swift. And to Mike's point, I don't know that I'll
get to a Caleb stack,
but I do have some interest in potentially DJ Moore or Keenan Allen.
Yeah, and I'll say this, the Thanksgiving slate,
I was kind of all in on Roma Dunze.
That didn't work out.
And they like clearly have no chemistry right now.
So if you're going to stack Caleb Williams or take a piece from that receiver core,
in my opinion, I don't see a bounce back coming this week for Roma Dunze.
I think it has to be DJ Moore or Kenan Allen. Mike, go ahead.
Yeah, and Kenan Allen also didn't practice yesterday
as well, dealing with an ankle injury.
So they've got a number of things you need
to watch there for sure.
If memory serves, he suffered that in the Thanksgiving game
and then actually came back and played
and really contributed.
So running on adrenaline during that game,
but we'll see how it ends up.
Again, practice reports this time of year, looking at the weather this time of year, optimal
conditions with dome games or games in Miami with no wind and good temperatures.
Those are always going to be important.
Well don't game here.
This is our last of the four o'clock Mike, before we get to Rams bills, you had another
follow up.
Yeah, just see the Mason may play.
Yeah, there's been a lot of confusion on Mason.
It was reported he was headed to the IR.
The transaction obviously has not happened yet.
He didn't practice yesterday.
They said he's likely still heading to the IR.
I don't know why they haven't made the move yet.
So something to monitor and watch.
But as of right now, I would say he's probably still not playing,
but it is at least interesting that they haven't made the transaction yet.
Fair enough. Yeah, keep an eye on that. Bills at the Rams. Meg,
I'll start with you. This is a high total. So there's something
to be said for that the implied point total for the bills 2027.
And for the Rams, it's not bad either. It's 23 got Josh Allen
at 8k, who I assume is not getting much ownership. The
receiver core is kind of a mess for the bills.
You don't really know where it's going outside of a little bit to Khalil Shakir.
We'll have to monitor Dalton Kincaid status. James Cook, 7400.
I just don't have much interest in this game.
I think the pieces are a little probably too expensive for me
and the portfolio a little too diversified.
But the other side, not so much. Do you like any Rams or bills?
Yeah, I think you set it up perfectly with the Bills.
It can be a high implied total.
It can be a high real life total,
but Bills are not fantasy friendly
and have not really been outside of a couple
of Josh Allen games, a couple of James Cook games.
It's really not, they have not been fantasy friendly.
And I'm not, so I'm not going to go to them here.
And to Mike's point in the nature of the slate, we really just have to
dodge Josh Allen as far as like the elite quarterback. So if you think he is going to be
the one that laps the field, then by all means play him. I'm going to hope that he doesn't get a
passing and receiving touchdown and just hope that he doesn't break the slate. And I'm going to play
other quarterbacks because of the nature of the slate. So I'm out on the bills on the Ram side. I think you can look at Kyron Williams because you can attack the bills on the ground.
And, you know, even pass catching to, to the running back.
So I'm going to go to Kyron Williams online.
If it's especially that I don't, don't do Barkley, maybe do a Kyron for an
ownership discount there.
Yeah, Mike, I think I'm out on this game largely.
I'm also out on Kyron just because I, I, the efficiency hasn't really been there. Yeah, Mike, I think I'm out on this game largely. I'm also out on Kyren just because the efficiency hasn't really been there.
In Blake Quorum's getting a little bit more work.
I am interested a little bit in Puka Nakuwa because I don't think a lot of people are going to play him.
He's expensive, but at $7,700, I don't think a lot of people are going to play him in this matchup.
But I just think game to game, he could have that not a Tyree kill type player, not a Justin Jefferson type player,
but he puts up those stats game to game sometimes.
So any thoughts on Puka Nakua or anybody else in this game?
I lean towards playing Puka a little bit.
It depends on what the final ownership number looks like.
I'm showing about 10% right now,
which actually maybe feels a little high.
I would kind of expect six, seven, eight.
So gonna continue to monitor that, but I do like him.
I like the upside.
Kyron, I like, Kyron's a classic example
of someone I'm probably not going to end up playing
and might bet is anytime touchdown.
He's not beating you without two touchdowns.
So at that price point,
just because of his lack of involvement in the passing game,
the only way that he really puts up a day that just
buries you if you don't play him is with multiple touchdowns. So I
don't, for me, it would just be better as anytime touchdown,
which will certainly come down. Yeah, Puka is fine, largely off
the game, not playing any bills.
Okay. Yeah, sounds like Kyron for Meg and maybe a little bit of Puka for me. And we're
out on this one. I'm not taking the shot on, on Josh Allen in this particular game, but
again, we can't just ignore the implied point total. It's coming from somewhere, but Josh
Allen's going to have to rush a couple in and pass a couple for him to pay off. All
right, Meg, let's get to your cheat sheet, my cheat sheet, then Mike, your top three
at each position. Meg,
start us with the stack and then go to the chalk by chalk fade contrarian and value.
Yeah, I did mention several stacks today, but Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans, provided that Mike
Evans is fully good to go is my favorite one. But of course, watch injury report there. And of course,
you could add KDOT into that because that he is a really good matchup. Chalk by I think it's
gonna be a lot of people's chalk by
is Isaac Garendo.
We talked about it, how it's kind of a free square.
Chalk fade for me in that same game
is gonna be Debo Samuel.
We haven't seen a ceiling Debo Samuel game
since I believe week six.
And I'm gonna just kind of keep avoiding them,
though really not,
hasn't been good for my basketball shares.
But so if he did help me there, I wouldn't be mad,
but I'm gonna fade him here. Contrarian play, I just talked about it.
If you kind of want to replace Kyron for Saquon, I think that could be an interesting leverage
point. So Kyron would be my contrarian play and value is I mentioned Isaac Gurindo, but also keep
an eye on the Breece Hall. If Braylon Allen were to play, I think that's excellent value as well.
All right, my cheat sheet is Aiden O'Connell
to Jacoby Myers.
We can swap Jacoby for Brock Bowers between the two.
I guess I'd lean Jacoby,
but I'm gonna play them both in Aiden O'Connell lineups
with hopefully my chalk bye with a Mike Evans run back,
but we gotta monitor that of course.
My chalk fade is gonna be Bucky Irving.
I think he's gonna be active,
but I don't think he's gonna get quite as much work as we've seen the last three or four weeks because of that hip injury, which, oh, by the way, he could potentially aggravate. I don't know. So that's my chalk fade, even though I absolutely love Bucky Irving. My contrarian plays Tyreek Hill, a very high implied total for the Miami Dolphins. And one of these days it is going to be Tyreek Hill this season. And maybe it's this week, he's only 7,100. My value play, Juwan Johnson, just very cheap.
I'm just trying to get maybe three or four catches out of him
and I probably meet the value I need there.
All right, Mike, top three at each position.
We start at the quarterback.
Oh, I think you might be on mute because I can't hear you.
I am muted.
We have a barking dog over here that wanted to,
yes, Chief was a little upset that his team is not
on the main slate here, but we're going to go Kyler Murray,
AOC and Sam Darnold.
I like Sam Darnold a lot here.
I just, this Falcons team,
I think they can get themselves into shootouts,
which I think is good for the other side.
So I like AOC, Kyler Murray, Sam Darnold.
All right. Top three running backs.
Gurindo number one, just the free square, gonna play it.
Number two, Tony Pollard and number three, Najee Harris.
As you see, I am not spending up necessarily
at the running back position this week,
looking for those mid-range plays.
Love Pollard and Najee Harris in addition to Gurindo.
All right, very interesting there.
Wide receivers.
Drake London, number one.
I love the volume, and it's going
to be on the other side of my Darnold lineups.
Jacoby Myers, chalky, love the spot though,
going to be pairing them with AOC,
going to be playing them in nearly every lineup.
And then Joanne Jennings.
I think that this is a spot where San Francisco is still
going to be competitive.
The run game may not be the focus as much,
considering the circumstances.
So Drake London, Jacoby Myers Myers and Joanne Jennings.
And then finally, I think we could guess two of the three tight ends here. They're certainly my two.
What are the top three tight ends? Yeah, give me Trey McBride, Brock Bowers and TJ Hockinson.
I like Hockinson with Darnold a lot. I love McBride, love Bowers. They are legit wide receivers. I will have two tight ends in every single lineup.
I'm glad you closed it that way because I think I am too.
And I think people need to hear that,
especially since these tight ends are in fact,
in my opinion, wide receivers.
All right, we're gonna spend 60 seconds on this.
Meg, who covers?
The line is three and a half tonight
on Thursday Night Football.
Lions at home, given the three and a half.
I'm nervous with all the injuries to the Lions defense, but I am still going to go Lions here.
All right. I actually went to Packers. Mike, you agree you're kind of on the Lions here too,
not as an official player. Yeah, slightly. And I made the number four,
not really something I'm comfortable playing. Yeah, it wouldn't shock me in this division
game if it ends up being, you know, right at right on where the spread is. But I have injury
concerns on both sides. Definitely on the Lions stopping the run, but there's still some injuries
on the Packers side that matter too. And Mike, if there's one or two names in showdown that you want
in your lineup, again, I know you haven't run your simulations. I haven't run anything yet there.
I would say probably Sam Laporta is going to be a huge focal point and Tucker Kraft on the other side.
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