Fantasy Football Today - NFL DFS Week 16 Preview: Main Slate Lineups, Picks, Stacks and Ownership (FFT DFS)

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

Join our Week 16 DFS contest! : https://www.draftkings.com/draft/contest/171947369 00:00 - Start 01:50 - Browns (+7.5) at Bengals (47) 05:50 - Lions (-6.5) at Bears (48) 09:27 - Giants (+8.5) at Falcons (42) 13:10 - Titans (+3.5) at Colts (42.5) 16:46 - Cardinals (-4.5) at Panthers (47) 19:50 - Rams (-3.5) at Jets (46) 24:52 - Eagles (-3.5) at Commanders (45.5) 28:44 - Vikings (-3) at Seahawks (43.5) 32:29 - Patriots (+14) at Bills (46.5) 35:24 - 49ers (+1) at Dolphins (44.5) 38:51 - Jaguars (+1) at Raiders (40) 42:02 - Meg's Cheat Sheet 43:36 - Sia's Cheat Sheet 44:38 - Mike's Top 3 Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and we've got, or maybe it's five. Well, we'll find out as we get through the show here. Last week wasn't great for me. I mean, when I'm hitching my wagon to that Dolphins Texans game, it's not gonna work out, especially since I was on the CJ Stroud side. Everybody, we're gonna have the contest link in the chat. Meg, how you doing today? I'm doing great. I'm laughing that Kirk Cousins is behind

me. I said bad timing for that. I always have to like that shirt, but he doesn't like it. So we're moving on. Yeah. Yeah. It's the, you like that t-shirt that's behind Meg. I gotta love that. Mike, how you doing today? Doing well. As you mentioned a tough week last week for me. So best ball exposure, right? I advanced 33 teams to that next round. Long story short, we have one remaining entry. Yeah, you only you had to finish first this week out of the 12 to advance the first round. It was 12. You had to finish first and second then 12 again. You had to finish first. I had 11 entries finished second or third. I had Saquon Barkley and Derek Henry

in nearly every one of them. They combined for 14 points, just a brutal, brutal ending, but we've still got one entry and that's literally all it takes. So we're still alive and looking forward to this week. Quarterfinals are a buzz saw. So yeah, don't feel bad, we're all there. Absolutely, all right, we've got Alan, Fantasy Life,

Jason, James, all in the chat. Hit the like button if you could. Thanks for being in here, ask away on any questions. We got a lot of games to get through, so we're gonna get started. Hopefully no fire alarms go off today. Let's start with maybe a fire alarm in Cleveland. Jamis Winston, everybody's the world world's favorite quarterback gets benched for

Jordan Thompson Robinson. Interesting game. We got a 47 point total here. Brown's seven and a half point dogs. Meg, I'm going to start with you. I mean, I have no issue with the 27 and change implied total with the Cincinnati Bengals going to Joe Burrow. I mean, I think there's a lot of value on this slate at the quarterback position, or at least a lot of perceived value that we're going to get to Joe Burrow. I mean, I think there's a lot of value on this slate at the quarterback position, or at least a lot of perceived value that we're going to get to. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, it's pretty expensive. On the other side, DTR is only $4,800. Your thoughts in this game? Yeah, there's some other cheaper, cheaper quarterback plays that I'm a little more

interested in, so not going there. I do think obviously Chase Brown's in play. Unfortunately, I don't have him in my best ball exposure that's left. So I'm kind of selfishly hoping he doesn't do well from where I'm at. But I do think he's in a good spot as a favorite. So I think Chase Brown's the play for me here. Mike, we were talking pre-show and it looks like you have some interest in this game, which makes sense, right? It's a 47-point total. It doesn't look like the weather is going to be a big factor, just going to be cold. And that's, that's about it. Uh, Jerome Ford makes sense. Chase Brown makes sense.

Your thoughts on Dorian Thompson Robinson at 4,800. Yeah, I'll say I like this game a lot. Honestly, I think it's, you see the 47 point total outdoors, uh, late December. You would typically think this would be a 41, 42 kind of total. So I think you got to take note, but for me, Dorian Thompson Robinson is definitely playable because anyone and everyone has put up points on the Cincinnati Bengals defense. And with Dorian Thompson Robinson, you get the added upside of the rushing. You know, you don't have large sample sizes to

look at here, but even in games where he's been out there, you're going to see like 30, 40 rushing yards kind of going to be the floor there in my opinion. So when you've got that essentially baked in, you don't need a whole lot to really go right the rest of the way. So I like him. I think that, you know, we talked, you guys mentioned Jamar chase, chase Brown and Joe burrow.

That kind of triple onslaught is a very expensive now. I actually kind of like playing Thompson Robinson and then just playing Jamar Chase and Chase Brown and skipping the Joe Burrow portion of it because of the rushing upside you get with Thompson Robinson. So my lone basketball entry does have Chase Brown still, so I'm definitely rooting there. But my biggest interest here is going to be Jamar Chase first. They're going to force feed them targets, 15 targets coming again. And I like Thompson Robinson just because of the price point. Yeah, I don't have any argument here. I don't know, did we address Jerome Ford at 5600?

It does seem like that's pretty decent value with unfortunately Nick Chubb sustaining that foot injury. I mean, he gets the in the passing game too, negative game script. It seems like an easy target for DTR to just get the ball out quick too. Like I don't have any faith in the Cleveland receivers, but Jerome Ford seems like at 5,600 could have tremendous value. Mike your thoughts and then Mike. Yeah I was just looking. I do have some Jerome Ford.

So I'm going to list the five running backs in terms of exposure when I have the computer build 2000 lineups, it's Jameer Gibbs, Chuba Hubbard, James Connor, Devon H. Han, and then Jerome Ford, ahead of Chase Brown. So we've definitely got interest in Jerome Ford here in this game. Meg, are we in on Jerome Ford? I have a little concern of how much DTR

will check down to him. But yes, I think in a negative game script, he'd be the one I do also think they'll make some other running backs and but if he gets that check down as he if he is the check down option in the negative game script, I get the case for it. Yeah, certainly the one thing going for him. I mean, the other the running backs behind and pierce strong, or at least this is what I think the depth chart looks like pierce strong Deontay Foreman. You know, I like Deontay Foreman as a running back, but he's more of like a grinder,

gets you those two yards, you know? I mean, you know, he's a little bit better than I'm describing, but Jerome Ford, certainly the more dynamic of those three running backs that I mentioned. All right, let's move on to another game with a high total. We've got the Lions and the Bears. This is a 48 point total.

And if you've been listening to me really anywhere, I've been such a huge fad of the Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams specifically this entire year with all that said and Mike I'll start with you boy If you were gonna play Caleb Williams It would be at home against a Detroit Lions defense that keeps losing players at a rate that doesn't seem Like reality. I mean, it's just so unfortunate for a team that that looked so good now They're gonna really have to lean on their offense, which is probably part of the reason people love Jameer Gibbs.

We know DeMont is injured. My question for you, Mike, is A, do you like this game? Again, 48 point total. And B, would you be willing to play Caleb Williams? Yeah, I'm definitely willing to play Caleb Williams. And I will say I think the ownership is going to steam up a little bit just because of the stack ability. Jameer Gibbs is essentially a free square this week at even at $7,500.

He should be a $9,000 player minimum with the role that he's likely going to have. So that will inflate the ownership a bit. But yes, I like Caleb Williams a lot at $5,500. Gene and Alan just $5,300. You could play DJ Moore as well. I like Sam Laporta down at 4,700. I think Sam Laporta becomes way more viable in the red zone without Montgomery on the field.

So I like this game a lot. By far the game I'm stacking the most this week. And it's really because of the free square with Gibbs and building around that. Let me ask you this. It sounds to me like if you're building around this game and you're definitely getting Jameer Gibbs in there, it probably means your simulations aren't probably including a lot of Amon Ra St. Brown. Like he's probably out of most of those

lineups. Yeah, not a lot of Amon Ra, but mostly because it's prioritizing Jamar Chase at the high end. So yeah, it's going to be a lot of Jumeir Gibbs, a lot of Sam Laporta and more bears stuff with, uh, Caleb. Cause I'm confident that the Detroit Lions are still going to score points. Right. Uh, I just think that they're going to surrender points, which is going to put what Caleb Williams and one of those awesome game scripts where they're just always down 10 points. Yeah. This is interesting, Meg, because I think their, their path is going to be through the pass. I mean, I think Deandre Swift is an interesting contrarian play.

If you wanted to get into this game with a couple of pieces, but get different parts of the game, I think Deandre Swift would be an interesting play there at 5600. But it's hard for me to ignore what Mike just said. I mean, I don't know that I'd be stacking Jared golf, but Caleb Williams with maybe two pass catchers. It's so inexpensive. You can run it back with a chalky that, you know, quote free square at 7,500. Jamir Gibbs, your thoughts.

Yeah, I mean, we don't need to analyze Jamir Gibbs. You guys have set up perfectly. He's a great play. So definitely in on Gibbs. I'm more probably interested in skinny stack. I have a lot of interest on in Keenan Allen. Mike mentioned his price point. So don't know that I'll be doing a big stack in this game.

But I certainly think if you wanted to stack up around Jameer Gibbs and do Goff Gibbs, La Porta or Goff Gibbs, J Mo or whatever you can fit and bring it back with like a Keenan Allen or DJ Moore. I don't mind that. I likely personally will just be doing Gibbs and Keenan Allen, but I get the case for if you wanted to expand the pool.

Yeah, I'll say this. Goff got, you know, relatively ignored. I know some optimizers were showing Jared Goff last week, but got relatively ignored. And he was in, granted, that was a different game script than what we're going to have here, because he was playing from behind against the Bills. Here, he's going to be playing most likely from ahead for a majority of the game, in spite of the fact that this one is in Chicago. But yeah, Caleb Williams very intriguing to me. And again, it's largely because of his price, but also his stacking partners are so inexpensive. If we're going to have a Caleb game, this would be the one to do it. All right. Drew Locke is starting for the New York Giants. 42 point total. I mean, I'll say this, Drew Locke is better than Tommy DeVito. I don't think I'm breaking news

there. That's at least my opinion. Atlanta Falcons, that's the bigger news. Michael Pennex starting for Kirk Cousins. You've got that shirt behind you, Meg, which you called yourself out. I don't think anybody was gonna notice, but here we are. Michael Pennex, 4,500, Drew Lock, 4,900. We've got some pieces on each side.

Meg, especially the Atlanta side. Of course, Bajan Robinson, 8,100. He makes a ton of sense with the game script and the workload he's getting relative to Tyler Algier, Drake London, Darnell Mooney, reasonable prices at 6,400 and 5,400. Your thoughts on this game, Meg? Yeah, I have some interest here.

I mean, it's an unknown, but I have interest here with a cheap Michael Penick's going against that Giants defense and stacking him with Drake London and or Darnell Mooney. So I do have a lot of interest there. I will say if you didn't want to do that, and I don't know what exactly Bijan's ownership is coming in and now, but if we see it getting depressed by the end of the week because of Penex's ownership, then maybe you'd want

to look at Bijan because obviously he's in a great spot too and getting a ton of workload. I know they got very run heavy with Kirk struggling, but they certainly could still be run heavy to ease the rookie in. So I don't mind approaching it that way too. If you don't do a panic stack, you could certainly approach it from the Bijan side.

I'm not gonna go to any giants here. I know neighbors is getting a big target share, but with bad quarterback play, there's just other places I like more. Mike, are we considering Michael Pennex with a pass catcher and a Malik Neighbors run back? Yes, I definitely am here in this particular spot. I think the Pennex just the volume could be there because I still just, I don't

think Atlanta is a good team at all. And I think the game's just going to be competitive, right? So I think that there's definitely some interest here. It's obviously the price point over everything. And I do have interest on the bring back with Malik neighbors at 6100. I'm willing to play along here only because the one area the Falcons really aren't very good is they don't generate a ton of pass rush. So I think that there's going to be time to throw. And I think that there's going to be, you know, obviously just

perfect conditions, right? You're talking about indoors in a dome. I think that can only help a guy like Locke. So I will be playing a little bit on the leak neighbors, assuming that he's out there. I assume he's going to be limited participation. He looks fine. Just the target share, basically locked in for double digit targets. Okay. Tyrone Tracy at $5,500. Obviously, we see Singletary getting some carries. Meg, are you kind of out on Tyrone Tracy, even though the price looks pretty good?

Yeah, the price is nice, but no, there's just too many other running backs. This is a really good running back slate. I think I'm struggling with quarterback stacks, but this is a really good running back slate. Yeah think I'm struggling with quarterback stacks, but this is a really good running backs late. Yeah, we're gonna talk about a lot of inexpensive quarterbacks, including Michael Penex, who we just talked about. I don't know

that there's any anybody else to talk about. There was a question from Greg who says Did I miss DJ Moore, so we did kind of touch on him. But Mike, we usually do this with the the Bears running backs where I kind of ask you to rank them because we've had this sort of Barsing it and I'm guessing your ranking is not going to be any different than it usually is you usually like Keenan Allen Then DJ Moore and then Roma do and say is that how you like it this week? Yeah, it's gonna be the same order I just I think Keenan Allen will be there for the volume the game scripts super good for him

You know DJ Moore we saw a few more rushing attempts last game. While that is okay in theory, I actually think it reduces his workload overall when he gets asked to be in some of those situations. So or at least reduces the upside. So I like Kenan Allen Moore. All right. Let's move on to the next game here. We're going to go to the Titans and the Colts.

Titans are three and a half point dogs walking into Indy. Speaking of backup quarterbacks, maybe two backup quarterbacks here, if we're being honest. But Mason Rudolph taking over for Will Levis. Anthony Richardson, the quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. So we talk about inexpensive quarterbacks and inexpensive stacking partners. And Meg, Anthony Richardson, listen, I know he's not a very good quarterback right now, but he certainly has some upside, particularly against this Titans defense who we saw against Washington can give up points

in bunches depending on the day. They're away from home. Richardson has some stacking partners like Michael Pittman, more importantly, Josh Downs, who's sub 5K at 4,900. And the other side, we can play the Calvin Ridleys and NWIs seeing who's healthy and who's not here. But I kind of like the Anthony Richardson stack. Your thoughts? I don't think I mean, I again, I'm struggling with quarterback stacks on this slate. For sure. I think it's kind of a gross quarterback slate. But in I still not getting to Anthony

Richardson, I get the case with the upside I do. I'm personally not likely going to do it. And then as far as the Titans, you know, I'd love to think that Rudolph would elevate Ridley. I know we need to pay attention to the Pollard-Spears stuff. Is Pollard a go or not? If not, then obviously Spears is in play. And then if you want to, you know, gross cheap tight end, Chig Concho got a lot more targets last week. I don't know what that was a end, Chig Conco got a lot more targets last week. I don't know what that was a product of the quarterback change. I think they both targeted him,

but he did get a lot more targets last week. So it's a cheap tight end play. If you're interested, I'd love to play a cheap Josh Downs. I just, it's the lack of faith in Anthony Richardson as a passer. Makes sense. Mike, anything on the Colts side? Again, I'm intrigued by this week in particular.

I'm intrigued by maybe going to Anthony Richardson, you know, one additional time here, your thoughts? Yeah, I think that Richardson is playable. I'm going to elect to just save a little bit and play the even cheaper guys, but I say even cheaper. I guess Caleb Williams is actually more expensive. I am more talking Thompson Robinson and Pinnix and That's just pure speculation here, but I like downs a little bit with him and I feel like

Downs is the guy that's just making a lot of lineups here because of the price point at 4900 Whether that be in the wide receiver or the flex spot, so I'm interested whether that be in the wide receiver or the flex spot. So I'm interested. I could get to Calvin Ridley as well, being in a dome, perfect condition, certainly gonna help a guy like Calvin Ridley. Don't love it though. I'm getting a lot of it, a lot of Ridley, a lot of downs.

But if you were to ask me, do I think that downs could absolutely fail here? Yes, I think that there's definitely a scenario here where we're talking another single digit performance. Yeah. Um, I'm probably still going to end up with a decent amount though. I mean, the reality is, you know, when you're playing tournaments in DFS, like the floor is going to be low for an Anthony Richardson lineup, but we know

the ceiling, you know, in a stack with Josh Downs is potentially quite high. So I'm going to be willing to play that. We'll talk about our cheat sheets and Mike's top three at each position. After we go through these games, that's four one o'clock games. We've got three more one o'clock games to take care of. We're going to start with Arizona, Carolina, but we're going to wait until we hear a message from our partner. Sephora's biggest fragrance sale of the year is on.

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a 47 point total, a lot of big totals here. I mean, especially considering this time of year where it doesn't look like weather's going to impact many of these games outside of it just being cold, but not a lot of precipitation as of now on a Thursday afternoon, not a ton of wind. There's a lot of games to choose from, I guess is the point I'm making Bryce Young 5300 Chuba Hubbard, a popular guy these days, 6800 Jalen

Coker interesting on the Carolina side at 4200 of course, Adam Thielen getting priced up a little bit these days at 5600. The other side, Mike, I'll start with you. I mean, the Kyler Murray experience has been kind of troubling, particularly lately, I think early in the year, he was popping here and there. We're not really seeing it. Marvin Harrison not seeming to like have these big pop games, not really getting the contested catches that you'd hope Marvin Harrison would get. James Connors, 7100. Are we in or out on this game? I'll be in a little bit. I thought I was going to get to Kyler and I think he's fine at 6100

I think that the matchup is actually decent for them and games they got to win James Connor will have some interest in Truba Hubbard definitely one of the top running backs for me once again Just I think the volume is gonna be there the guy that I'll play the most so it's gonna be Jalen Coker at 4200 Just the price point, the value. For me, it's coming down to him versus Josh Downs essentially. And I think I like some of the other pieces a little bit more here, particularly the running backs with Chuba Hubbard and James Connor. So I'm more likely now to go to the Coker side over Downs. But yeah, sprinkling in these individual pieces, definitely not stacking anything here.

Very interesting because as we're doing this, Meg, I'm seeing a decent amount of value, particularly at the receiver position. We know we have it at the quarterback position, but if we're getting this type of value at the receiver position and if it actually hits, it incentivizes me to maybe do what might end up being the contrarian thing and like paying up at quarterback, like with the Joe Burrow, for example, if everybody's going to kind of live in the price the cost efficient quarterback range we'll have to see to see where ownership ends up there but your thoughts on this game yeah i'm like mike that i have a lot of interest in both the running backs in this game

james connor tuba hubbard definitely have interest there obviously i know everybody wants to see trerey McBride get a touchdown and I think the Cardinals do too. I likely, as I typically do, I'm more likely to pay down for a tight end, but I get the case if you think he could get in the end zone and do what he's been doing from a volume standpoint. So I'll get the case there.

And then I'll point out, I get the case on, or excuse me, on Coker's price, but then Adam Thielen, you know, he kind of let us down a little bit, but you know, he's still getting the target share. So I think Adam Thielen is still in play at, I believe, 5.6K. Yeah, he's 5,600.

I think we can move on from this game. It doesn't look like it's going to be a truly less stackable game for us, more like pulling out some pieces that you all just talked about. Let's move on to the Rams and the Jets. I'll tell everybody on sports line, the first pick I put in this week, which. It's not that I have buyer's remorse, but the, you know, the very cold weather

does intimidate me a little bit with the Rams, but I laid the three points. I think it's three and a half in a lot of places. So I guess I got some value here, but I laid the points against the Jets here. I was on the Jets team total last week that ended up coming in. I think this is an interesting game Mike to potentially get some pieces in. Again, Rams on the road in a cold environment in New York, not the best situation,

but it does look like Pukka Nakua at 8K is getting some ownership. And it's hard to like completely look away from Devonte Adams, Garrett Wilson, Devonte Adams having that big game last week. Are you in on anything in this game? Not planning to be right yet. Devonte Adams would be the first piece for me. Just the volume is good. The efficiency is getting a lot better. They obviously you

question whether or not they've got stuff to play for, but I think that Aaron Rodgers and company, they're just they're playing to prove that they should still have an opportunity to play again next year, essentially. So I do like Devontae Adams a little bit here. I'm not finding myself too much on Puka. Yeah, definitely underweight. It looks like he's around 20 to 23%. I've got like 10. Yeah, so mostly just Devontae Adams would be the only piece I could get to here, it looks like. Meg, I know you're a Kyron Williams person. Last week I had Blake Quorums over. I think I took his, it was either rushing attempts or rushing yards.

Well, it didn't come in because in these important games, even on a short week, remember that was a Thursday night game, it was all Kyron Williams, which is a little strange to me only because he wasn't super efficient. It's not like he was mowing everybody down. He was just, that's who they trust. That's who they decided to go with. Your thoughts on Kyron Williams here. Are you going back to him at 7,200?

And are there other pieces like Cooper Cup? We didn't even mention coming off that zero game, but we know, we know he can bounce back. I mean, he's Cooper Cup. He's only 6,500. It's Jets defense sustaining some injuries on their end. So, I mean, why did that Rams are away cold weather, East Coast game, all that stuff, they still could go off here. Your thoughts on this

one? Yeah, I mean, I think Kyron is one of the ones I said it's a good running back slate. He is one of the running backs that are in play. Obviously, he's expensive, but it's the volume and the trust that McVeigh has in him. Of course, I like Pooka. I think he's in a great spot. But as Mike said, you have to pay for it both at cost and ownership. I'll be interested to see what Cupp's ownership comes in at,

because he certainly, like you said, could bounce back. So it's kind of like all those pieces are in play for me on the RAM side. I just don't know how much I'll get to each. I think we talked about it last week. I did do a 1 PM only with Aaron Rodgers. And, you know, it wasn't like a huge massive win, because there were some holes in other places. But like, you know, it's a condensed target share. And if

you, you know, I think that they're like what Mike said, the motivation is still there to put some good stuff on tape for him and Devante to set more records. So I think there's some narrative stuff there. And it's just a double stack that you know exactly where the ball is going. So don't mind Aaron Rodgers double stacks. I wanted to get there too,

especially since Aaron Rodgers again, a very cost efficient option here at 5,600. Devontae, Garrett Wilson, if you pair them with Rodgers, you can do a stack like that. I think my issue was, the reason I liked the Jets team total last week was because they were playing Jacksonville. And Jacksonville with the way they play defense,

the man coverage, the fact that it's just a bad defense already, I'm not saying the Rams are a great defense, but the reason I, and Meg, I like your take on that because of the condensed target share and because of how they looked, particularly in the fourth quarter last week. I don't think I'm gonna get there,

but I don't hate the call here. Mike, real quick, minus three. Do you like that play? I lean there. I do always worry about being outdoors this late in the season, cross country, you know, East Coast, West Coast team to East Coast, and the start time, but lean there. But lean there, you know, the Jets, they're an interesting team because they're, they're not great, but they're not as bad as their record. And the way that they're playing right now, they're, they're definitely not as bad as the record. They had an easy schedule is a huge missed opportunity for them this season. Yeah.

Uh, but they, you know, you can laugh, but they're, they're a lot closer to a playoff team than a bottom of the league team. Fair enough. Uh, especially when you see where a playoff team than a bottom of the league team. Fair enough. Especially when you see where the playoff teams are in the AFC. The Chargers and Broncos playing well this season, but those two, not great teams, the two teams that play tonight,

they're regressing a little bit too. And I don't think the Jets are too far behind those teams. Meg, you had something before we move on to the commander's game. I think I was going gonna ask Mike about ownership, what he thought ownership would come in on Cup in this game. Cooper Cup, let's see if I've got. I think that's a big question mark.

Yeah, five, 6%, somewhere in there. Less than 10, yeah. Interesting. Yeah. You could have a bounce back game here with Cooper Cup at 6,500, you know, 25 almost a 25 point implied total for the Rams, which isn't nothing. So interesting.

All right. Good question. Philadelphia Eagles, Washington commanders. This one I think is still at three and a half. I wouldn't be shocked if this moves to four before kickoff. We got about a 45 and a half point total here. Meg, of course, I'm going to start with you. We're the commander's fans.

I think this one could get ugly. Maybe it doesn't, because it's a division game and all of that stuff. We usually play the Eagles pretty tight, or at least lately, the last few years here. I don't know. This could get away from them, based on what I've seen from Washington

the last three, four, five weeks here. Either way, any fantasy intrigue here, Jane Daniels, 7,300. I really don't think we're playing any Washington people, not even Terry McLaurin at 7,300 against this particular defense. The other side of the ball, I could see Saquon Barkley getting loose at 8,300. We got Jaylen Hurts, 7,800, AJ Brown, 7,800. This feels like a game we're just not playing. Yeah, the only piece that I would say is if we think Saquon's going to come in at low ownership,

a Saquon contrarian play, you know, he went off for two touchdowns in this matchup. What ownership are you seeing on Saquon currently, Mike? Around 12, 10 to 12. Okay, I thought he was coming in lower. So, yeah, if he was coming in lower, I definitely would have interest because, you know, he, you know, obviously exploded in this matchup the last time and I could see him doing it again. Yeah. Mike, any thoughts here on Barkley or anybody else in this game?

Yeah. The only thing I'm getting in this game, which we can all laugh is a Diami Brown at 3,400. And the reason why the computer is going to love him every week, right? Cause he's the price never moves. He's just 3,400. He's actually getting targets. Like he's actually getting the ball thrown to him. We should. I know this game is a three and a half point spread. It's a three and a half point spread, but I don't think it would shock anyone

if the commanders were down 10 at some point in the second half of this game. Yeah. Kind of throwing the football. So for me, at thirty four hundred hundred getting three to four targets in games where they're actually ahead, I think is interesting because I think he could get six, seven targets if they are trailing in this particular game at thirty four hundred. I'm not saying it's a great play for your lineup, but if you were considering someone like Josh Downs or Jaylen Coker

and the extra money here, like he's fifteen hundred dollars cheaper than Josh Downs, Jaylen Coker and the extra money here, like he's $1,500 cheaper than Josh Downs. There's definitely a scenario where he matches Josh Downs on the day that Josh Downs doesn't score a touchdown. Meg, I think the upside for a guy like Ben Sinnott is probably capped enough for me to maybe ignore his price tag at 2,800, but memory serves, Zach Eritz with a concussion probably not playing this week. Any consideration to get the price relief,

I don't know, maybe in two tight end lineups, would you even consider Benson it? I mean, I have so much anger that the people that drafted Benson might get lucky here because I thought it was a terrible pick. But so letting that anger go, yeah, I don't know, there's another cheap tight end that I'm gonna talk about later

that is my absolute favorite. You'd pay a little bit more for it, but I would rather go to that CheapTideN even at more ownership. So likely no, but it could happen. CheapTideN, if he's running enough for outs, can get there because he's only 2,800 I believe. Yeah, Mike, any chance your simulations

have him popping up at all? Um, didn't stick out in my mind. But let's see. And I think that's, go ahead. Not really. Okay. He did sneak into a lot of the player pool just barely. But no, not not really. All right. Well, I don't know, maybe we'll get some coach speak. Hey, we're really going to target Ben Sam, but I doubt that's what happened. I hope not. Meg, you teased a tight end you like at a cheap price. There's a few tight ends we can talk about or that we will talk about. We got the four o'clock games still to cover and we're going to do it. Oh, wait, you know, let's cover one of the games first. And then we're going to take a break Vikings minus three at the Seahawks You know, this is interesting Meg. I'll start with you. Gino Smith looks like he's gonna play I didn't think that was gonna happen Kenneth Walker. We're still not sure about I think he's trending to not playing Zach Charbonneau at 6k is gonna be great if Kenneth Walker is out

We're gonna have to wait on the news on that JSN is is like the wide receiver one, and it's not even close. I don't know if DK Metcalf is still nursing an injury. He looked fine on the field. He got three targets last week, caught all three. JSN got a billion. And by a billion, I mean 12. And he caught most of his. I mean, they were just, Chino was locked in on JSN,

was barely even looking at DK Metcalf. Are you any interest in this game? It's a pretty low total at 43 and 1 half. The Viking side, Justin Jefferson, 8,200, Jordan Addison, 6,200, Hawkinson, 4,800, AJ, 6,400. I think I'm out on this one. The prices make it a little more prohibitive,

but I do like the receivers in this game. I do like Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, JSN. I do like those three receivers a lot. And I don't mind Hawkinson honestly at his price too, but it's just the prices. I don't know if I'll get there with, you know, other, you know, likely expensive running backs that I want to get to

and stuff like that. So I get the case for those receivers. Don't know if I'll get there or not, but I get the case for all three of those receivers. Yeah, Mike, I probably misspoke a little bit cause I'm not necessarily out on this game. If we get Zach Charbonne as the starter and it's hard to ignore JSN at 6K. What are your thoughts on this one? My thoughts are we might get Kenny McIntosh as the starter. I think that there's a chance Charbonne doesn't play here as well. He missed practice with the oblique injury and they put him through a lot recently with Ken Walker being out.

My best ball team hopes that he's in because I have Charbonneau on the best ball team. I need that one badly. But at 4k a lead running back in this offense could definitely be playable, particularly with a beat up quarterback that could be looking to dump the ball off. So I will have to monitor that. I my guess is Charbonneau still plays and ultimately gets a practice in either today or tomorrow. But it is worth noting that both Walker and Charbonneau have missed practice.

I think Walker is out. I think Walker is probably out for the season, but we will see. I like JSN. He's clearly wide receiver one. I think Aaron Jones is interesting as well. I know the Vikings throw the football a ton, but I think this could be a situation, particularly if the Seattle guys are really banged up

and not actually going to play and Geno's really hurt. I could see the Vikings kind of running the football a little more here. Yeah. Are you, are you going to be out on Justin Jefferson at 8200? I am. I like him. I think he's, he's playable in every matchup. I think we all know that. It's going to be Jamar Chase for me. They're going to try to get him the Triple Crown. There's a scenario where he has 20 targets. It's Jamar Chase.

And I'll ask you both. Jordan Addison. I'm probably going to end up being out on him. I mean, $6,200, it's not a bad price. Mike, in or out on Jordan Addison, I'm probably gonna end up being out on him. I mean, 6,200, it's not a bad price. Mike, in or out on Jordan Addison? Probably, I mean, for main slate out, yeah, main slate out. Meg? I'd say in, he's in my pool, but I don't know how much I'd get to him.

Yeah, fair enough. All right, we got three more, go ahead, Mike. I would just say the reason why is he's a hundred bucks more than Malik Neighbors just I'm going to play Malik neighbors in the dome when I know that he's getting double digits. He's not going to be as efficient as Addison on the touchdown upside, but I think he's getting 10 targets minimum. Yeah, completely makes sense. All right, we got three more four o'clock games to get to then our cheat sheets, then Mike's top three at each position. We're going to do it right after this message from our partners. Breaking news coming in from Bet 365 where every nail biting

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Experience A&W's classic breakfast on Now, dining only until 11 a.m. All right, we move on, Patriots, Bills, 14 point spread, or is it 14 and a half? I think it's still 14, 46 and a half point total, implied total for the Bills, 30. You know, Meg, I think people look at games like this and they're like, well, we're not going to have that

back and forth, but we've seen that before with like the lions a couple of weeks ago where their implied total was in the 30 range and they went off because you got to get to 30 somehow. Right? So my question for you is, have you considered this game at all? It's really hard to stack Josh Allen for obvious reasons. It's really hard to play James cook in my opinion, when you know Ty Johnson's getting so much run and in the passing game as well,

Ray Davis getting a few looks as well. Josh Allen, 8,700. I mean, this is one of those situations where it's like, well, maybe nobody plays Josh Allen because of how this game sets up and all the value at the quarterback position everywhere else. Would that make you consider Josh Allen or are you just out on this game?

Certainly the run back options aren't very good. Yeah, I kind of noted that I don't think it's a very good quarterback slate. So if you just want to say, well, I'm going to play the best quarterback on the slate, who does have the highest upside, I, I get it. And so he's definitely in my quarterback pool for that reason, without forcing any stack at all, because we know that is very, very hard to

predict. And I don't do enough lineups personally, to try to play that guessing game. So I would say just Josh Allen is for me in this game is pretty simple. Like I said, Yeah, Mike, I see plenty of optimizers that will throw in a quarterback in a quote optimal lineup

and have no other pieces in the game, no stack, no run back. They just move on to the value and the upside everywhere else. This seems like a pretty good candidate for that. Like I haven't decided that I'm getting there, but again, with value kind of opening up potentially in other places, Josh Allen at 8,700, I don't hate it. Your thoughts here.

Yeah, I don't mind it. I'm going to elect to move on from it. Personally, I just think their only mission at this point is to not get him hurt. Um, I really don't think that he has quite the huge game here. I have a little interest in Hunter Henry at 4100, but mostly going to be off of it. You could obviously always talk me into the Bills defense here. But yeah, mostly going to be off the game other than Hunter Henry. Yeah, it's a good point because when they're up, there's not going to be

enough pushback from the Patriots like you might've gotten from the Detroit Lions for them to invest in dropping Josh Allen back and having him scrambled. It could be kind of the James Cook, Ty Johnson, Ray Davis show in the second half. So that's actually, that'll get me off of Josh Allen, but it is still worthy of noting that it is a 30 and change implied total for the Buffalo Bills. So do with that what you will. Well, speaking of will, the 49ers and the Dolphins will not be playing in the playoffs. Two franchises that had high expectations this year, they have been dashed. We've got the 49ers as I think this line still right around pick and 49ers plus one at the Dolphins 44 and a half point total

Everybody knows I was invested Mike you were to you in the two aside against Houston last week in the CJ Stroud side Nico Collins Tyree kill John who Smith waddle HN It looked like it could have some some DFS goodness in it You know, I don't hate going back to this game to be honest with you Mike I'm gonna start with you. Are you interested or you just go in other places? Looks like I'm going other places mostly, at least from a stacking standpoint. I have a little interest still in Tyree Kill at 6,900 and it's cheap for what he offers in terms of upside.

Devon Achan is the other piece. I don't think I'm getting anything on the San Francisco side though. All right, Meg. Isaac Garendo, you know, it's interesting. He's 6700. I thought he would be like way cheaper. Not that he necessarily deserves to be cheaper, but 6700. I think I'm off that. I think Joanne Jennings is always interesting. You know, I think this is a sneaky game that could have some potential shootout appeal in spite of the fact that the totals a little low. I mean, a Brock Purdy stack to like a Juwan Jennings, George Kittle, like I don't hate it, particularly in the afternoon slate only. With that said, I have a lot of like, I'm shy to play this game. Are you interested in anything on either side?

Yeah, I'm shy to play this game as well. I think that's a good call if you want to do that, like in an afternoon only, I get the case for that, but I'm a little shy. I think the only pieces are kind of Tyree Kell maybe on the Dolphin side and Joanne Jennings on the San Francisco side. Isaac Rendo is intriguing, but the price is just too high, you know, I think. Yeah, I agree. Mike, I don't know if you addressed this. Devon H.N., are we in or out at $7,400? I have a little interest there. Not going to be a core play by any means, but I think he's fine in tournaments. Okay. And Meg, I have to ask you, you're the John-Hoo Smith whisperer, 5,500,

in or out on John-Hoo? Well, I'm certainly rooting for him for some best ball shares. I'd say he's in my pool, but again, I will likely go cheaper. And finally, before we toggle to the next game Tyreek Hill is only 6900 as a lone piece maybe Mike as opposed to a stack but also certainly stack considerations I guess too. I gotta say I had Tyreek Hill's over receiving yards last week

and it wasn't working out but there was that final throw that would have gotten him over it but it was picked off by I think Derek Stingley who had perfect coverage on Ty Hill. And I kind of thought Tyreek was going to wrestle it from his hands. I would hit the over. But anyway, nobody wants to hear about my sob stories. Tyreek Hill 6900, yes or no, Mike? The computer says yes. I'm kind of leaning towards no only because he didn't practice. It's the wrist injury. We've seen him play through the injury when things have really mattered. Now that things don't matter so much.

Yeah. To be determined. I can't give you an answer on it just yet. Yeah, fair enough. I do think monitoring what's going on with the Dolphins offensive line kind of matters as it pertains to the passing game. Even though Chua gets it out real quick.

I think if they get some pieces back on the offensive line, that would make my Tyreek Hill playing at 6,900. I'd be a little bit more confident in it. But again, Tyreek Hill, one of those guys, if everybody's gonna be off of him, we're talking DFS tournaments largely here, he could absolutely go off for a big game and remind everybody that next season

he's gonna be that dude again. All right, Jaguars and the Raiders. It looks like for the Raiders, go off for a big game and remind everybody that next season he's going to be that dude again. All right. Jaguars and the Raiders. It looks like for the Raiders we've got Aiden O'Connell back as opposed to Desmond Ritter. Mac Jones on the other side. Mac Jones, you know, at 5200 he's playing okay because we see Brian Thomas kind of going off here.

Breton Strange has been really good, particularly last week. Running game there. It kind of toggles back and forth between ITN and Bigsby. Meg, I'm gonna start with you. You said you liked a cheap tight end. I'm thinking it's in this game. It is, it's Brendan Strange, you just said it.

He likely will garner some ownership. I really don't care. He's getting the target share. And at that price, I just think he's likely to pay it off. And then I also have a ton of interest in Brian Thomas Jr., which made me think, like, should I like Mac Jones? It just feels so gross, and that goes back to the whole, I think this quarterback slate is kind of gross.

But, I mean, I guess if you wanted to stack Mac Jones with Brendan Strings and Brian Thomas Jr., it makes sense, because I do really love both of those receiving options for the Jaguars. Fair enough. Mike, any interest in this game? Bryn Strange, as long as he plays, I think he's going to. He limited participation in practice. I think he's fine. Definitely if you're playing double tight ends. I like that a lot. On the other side, Jacoby Myers is always someone that's kind of interesting,

particularly with the better quarterback play. Yeah, mostly those two though. No, definitely not stacking. I like Jacobi Myers. I think the upside is a little limited here, but at 5,800, he could be an absolute volume, a monster. Brock Bowers. Let me ask you this, Mike. I don't know that a lot of people are going to get to expensive tight ends this week, Mike, and then Meg on this one. Let's say you were playing a two tight end lineup and you just wanted to force in a Brock Bowers or a Trey McBride. It would be Trey McBride, correct?

Yeah, I'll lean towards McBride there. Between those two, I'll lean towards that direction. I think I'm more likely to play Laporta and Strange together. And that's going to allow me to play Gibbs, Jamar Chase, and one other big spin that I like. Meg, any thoughts on Trey versus Brock? Yeah, if it was between those two, I'd go McBride. Okay. Must be trouble in the chat. It says 49ers secondary is suspect. True.

I mean, listen, Tyree kill. Like a two-a-stack, we've liked two-'ve liked to a stacks before if we see this 49ers team really wilt and kind of give up away from home Playing it's a four o'clock game, but still having to go to the East Coast I mean I could see to having one of those big games where you double stack them with you know John who and Tyreek and or whatever throw an a Chan you kind of have that. Wouldn't shock me if that stack goes off, especially if nobody's playing it. Maybe maybe that's the direction to go with at least a couple of your lineups. Did we already go through we already went through 11 games. That's amazing. We're either getting really good at this or really bad at this.

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It's really fun. Get involved with everybody there. All right, let's get to Meg. We're gonna get to your cheat sheet. Start us with a stack and then get to your Chalk by Chalk Fade, Contrarian and Value Play. Sure, yeah. I'll do the cheap quarterback play of Michael Pennex

to London and or Mooney. I'll say give a second option. If you wanted to do like a Bijan play and kind of leverage off that, then my second one would be an Aaron Rodgers double stack and just lean into the narrative there. Chalk buys, Jimmy Gibbs, we've all talked about it. Don't need, I think, any further explanation there.

Chalk, Fade fade I was having problems seeing like who was really chalky on the slate. I was seeing Debo coming we didn't even talk about Debo. And really, and I was seeing him come in pretty chalky. So he would be my chalk fade if he is indeed going to be chalky. Contrarian I'll say Bijan or Saquon towards the end of the week who we're seeing could be lower own one of those high priced running backs that people just can't fit in. So we'll see ownership later.

And then value play, I talked about it is the course, cheap tight end has been a theme of mine this year. And I'll go to the Brenton Strange. Okay. Yeah, it's interesting what you were saying about that Debo because it wouldn't shock me if he got a touchdown just to atone for what happened last week. Honestly, they should have scored a touchdown on that drive where he dropped the easy one that would have gotten them to like the five yard line, if not the end zone.

But I do think if you were considering getting pieces in that game or even stacking to a, I think Juwan Jennings would be like the natural run back there and definitely not D book. We know Jennings upside is pretty tremendous. All right, I don't think I have a chalk fade. Maybe after Mike goes, I'll give you a chalk fade, but my stack is gonna be Anthony Richardson to Josh Downs. I think there's a lot of different quarterbacks I can play depending on what value I decide to grab a hold of.

I do kind of like, I'm starting to like Jamar Chase to, excuse me, Joe Burr to Jamar Chase as well, because, and maybe with the Jerome Ford run back because I think there's such good value potentially at running back to the wide receiver position. But for now, Anthony Richardson, Josh Downs, my chalk by if Zach Charbonneau is healthy and if Kenneth Walker is out two ifs there. Zach Charbonneau is going to be my chalk by chalk fade. I don't have one yet

contrarian. Jerome Ford's not picking up any ownership. And again, with DTR quarterback, I think they're going to run the ball, of course, with Jerome Ford. But when they get Fate, I don't have one yet. Contrarian, Jerome Ford's not picking up any ownership. And again, with DTR at quarterback, I think they're gonna run the ball, of course, with Jerome Ford, but when they get down, I think we're gonna see a lot of check downs to Jerome Ford. My value play is gonna be Jalen Coker at 4,200. All right, now it's time for Mike McClure's

top three at each position. Mike, we start at quarterback. It is the grossest top three of the season at the quarterback position. Caleb Williams, Michael Penneick, and DTR. Essentially, I'm paying up at some of the skill position players for some heavy, heavy volume. And I think these guys have some upside.

I think Caleb Williams, we know the upside in trailing game scripts. Michael Penick's total wild card does get a good game in the dome against the Giants. And then DTR has got rushing upside and the the Bengals Defense has just been atrocious to everyone Yeah, fair enough top. Yeah, Caleb Williams. I'm really starting to like especially with his stacking partners running backs Jamir Gibbs Chuba Hubbard and James Connor. I

James Connor Chuba Hubbard. I know we're always a little iffy on kind of same game, two running backs. I like both of them here. The volume should be good. Jameer Gibbs, again, I called it a free square. It's a little, you know, it's not totally a free square, but I think he's way too cheap here. Definitely playing him regardless of any ownership.

Speaking of that Caleb stack, let's talk about top three wide receivers. Keenan Allen, Jalen Coker and Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase volume just, they're going after the triple crown here. They're gonna force feed them the football. Keenan Allen, I think again, trailing game script, natural stacking partner with Caleb Williams, but also bring back on the Jameer Gibbs stuff.

Just love that game in general. All right. And top tight ends. Sam Laporta, number one for me. 4,700, I think he should be 5,500 in this matchup, considering they remove a pretty big piece in the red zone in David Montgomery. And I think the game could get a little loose. I think we could see some scoring here.

Brinton Strange, as Meg mentioned, just love the value. It makes a lot of things work. And then Trey McBride. All right. Before we get out of here, Mike, I want to get your, if you have any thoughts on showdown tonight, I think this is a really weird game. Two teams that, I don't want to call them fraudulent,

but two teams that have been underwhelming as of late. But Meg, it's a two and a half point spread charges lay in the points at home. Any thoughts on this one? I'll go chargers at home, but with not much confidence. Totally fair. I have the chargers first quarter money line and I have Gus Edwards longest rush under 10 and a half yards. You know, Gus Edwards is not very good 10 and a half yards is a very low number. So it's not a huge bar for him to exceed,

but that running game is really in trouble right now. Mike, any showdown thoughts on this game? I'll play kicker again. It's gonna be Cameron Dicker for the Chargers. I think that they could move the ball and stall in the red zone a little bit in this matchup. Lad McConkey just volumes there. Yeah, you gotta play him.

And I think both quarterbacks, they do have sneaky rushing upside, both of them. So I think they're firmly locked in. I think it's more of a balance build night than a onslaught of one side. That totally makes sense. All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, that is our show. We gave you 11 games, the main slate.

There's of course two games on Saturday. We didn't have a chance to cover that, but good luck. I mean, those two game slates are really fun. We've kind of talked about shorter slates. So hopefully you dabble in that as well. We got our cheat sheets out of the way. We got our top three at each position. I got a bounce back from last week

because I had a bad week, but that's what happens in DFS, especially when you're largely playing tournaments like most of us are, but we're going to have a good week this week. I can feel it. And hopefully Washington doesn't get completely obliterated Meg by the Philadelphia Eagles. We gotta get to the playoffs and see what happens from there.

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