Fantasy Football Today - NFL DFS Week 17 Preview: Main Slate Lineups, Picks, Stacks and Ownership
Episode Date: December 27, 2024Join our contest: https://www.draftkings.com/contest/draftteam/172267214 0:00 - Intro 2:00 - Panthers (+7.5) at Buccaneers (48.5) 8:00 - Colts (-7.5) at Giants (40.5) 11:30 - Titans (+1) at Jaguars (3...9.5) 16:30 -Raiders (-1.5) at Saints (38) 19:15 - Jets (+9.5) at Bills (47) 23:30 - Cowboys (+8.5) at Eagles (41.5) 26:40 - Dolphins (-6.5) at Browns (39.5) 29:00 - Packers (-1) at Vikings (48.5) 37:40 - Meg’s Cheat Sheet 38:20 - Sia’s Cheat Sheet 39:45 - Mike’s Top 3 43:30 - Saturday Slate Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Happy holidays and welcome to Fantasy Football Today.
DFS as usual.
I am joined on Thursday at 11 o'clock by Meg Schaup and Mike McClure.
We've got an eight game slate.
We're going to talk about that like we always do.
Go game by game.
Six at one o'clock, two at 4.05, 4.25.
And then we're gonna talk about the three game slate
for a few minutes at the end of the show.
Meg, how you doing?
How's your holiday season going so far?
Yeah, holiday season is great.
Happy holidays to everybody as well.
And I got a nice bonus that I have a best ball finals team
on underdog as well as a marathon.
That's one of the underdog season long format
on best ball sweats.
So I have two weeks, 17 sweats.
So I'm very happy.
That is interesting.
We'll be on standby waiting for that.
Mike, how's your holiday season going so far?
Very, very good, Sia.
I had a great, great day yesterday in DFS,
the small two game slate,
but it was heavy on the right guys.
A lot of Xavier worthy.
I'll obviously a lot of Derek Henry nailed the defense.
It was just a great, great, great slate for two games.
So nice to roll into the weekend where it feels like we have a
slate essentially every day now.
That's right.
And we got a three games late Saturday and eight game slate
on Sunday.
I did well too.
I made some money not not as much as I felt like I should
have, but I made some money on the two game slate.
I actually had Derek Henry and Xavier worthy in every lineup. So that
certainly helped. Uh, Patrick Holmes was pretty good too. I had Lamar anyway. I digress. I
like these short slates. And as we do this fantasy football today, DFS show, we are going
to be more and more focused on those short slates as, as we get to the playoffs. Cause
those are obviously, um, automatically short slates. All right, let's get to the eight game slate.
Let's start with one, and by the way, the contest,
it's already in the chat.
It'll be in the YouTube description.
It's only $5.
Definitely join that contest if you can for week 17.
That will be just to be super clear.
That will be on the eight game main slate
as opposed to the Saturday slate.
So just keep that in mind.
But let's get to Panthers Buccaneers. I think this is a really interesting game to start
with Mike and Meg because, Hey, I mean, we've got a high total. It's in that 48 and a half
range here. You know, mostly we have to monitor whether as we get close to kickoff for all
of these games because of the time of year, but I don't think whether it's going to be
a huge concern here. And the total is reflecting that Mike, I'm going to start with you.
There's a lot I like here. I know Meg is a fan of a stack in this game.
It's hard for me to reduce it to like one or two players here. So I'm just going to give you sort
of a blank slate here. What do you like in this one? You know, there's a lot of little pieces that
I like. I really like Bucky Irving here. I think he's clearly going to be extremely
popular. But I'm actually getting it all the way up to where the number is. So for some
perspective on it, I'm showing him basically coming in around 35 to 40% owned. And that's
how often I'm getting him when I tell the computer to build, you know, 5,000 lineups.
He's showing up that often still. So I think he's a great play into ownership. Love Truba Hubbard as well, but I think it's still Mike Evans.
I think you could play Adam Thielen.
I think you could play a lot on both sides because I think Carolina is finally
to the point where they can push. We've seen it a number of times.
And we know that this Tampa Bay offense is going to be able to move the football,
but defensively there's such a pass funnel.
There should be a lot of passing volume in this game.
And if it's not efficient,
it's not the end of the world because it's a stopped clock and the ball coming
back to the buck side. So I like this game a lot.
I think a lot of people are going to like it,
but core piece number one for me here is clearly going to be Bucky Irving.
Yeah. Bucky Irving, a core piece for me as well. Meg,
you've got a core stack in this one though. I kinda, I'm not going to spoil anything. Of course we give out our cheat
sheets and Mike's top three at each position. This game will have some featured elements
of that. What do you like in this one? Quite honestly, I like the stacks on both sides.
I like Bryce young dad. I'm feeling, I like of course Baker Mayfield to Mike Evans. We
see Baker's using his legs more this season, which is an added bonus for us. And then obviously their backs are absolutely against the wall after the loss last week. So,
you know, I think we always know Baker can play with his hair on fire. And as Mike mentioned,
we have the pushback now that you used to worry about with Carolina, you know, Bryce Young's
playing well. So we have the pushback. So I honestly like the stacks on both sides. And of
course, I like Bucky Irving. I think you can add Chubba Hubbard to your player pool for sure. So, and I think
you could add Bucky Irving to a Baker Mike Evans stack as well. So really like a lot
in this game.
I'm going to ask you both a question here because Jalen McMillan is starting to come
on. He's only 4,600. I mean, we have, we have Kate Otton at 4,200. And then of course Bucky
Irving, like, you know, Meg, I'm going to start with you. Baker to Evans.
I think that's like the stack that makes the most sense.
I do think there's other ways to play this though, especially on, on a somewhat shorter
slate where fading Evans kind of sounds silly when I say it out loud, but maybe Baker, Bucky
and you're throwing Jaylen McMillan and you have a piece or two coming back.
Meg, I just wanted to ask you in terms of the stack and you don't have to respond to
that specific stack, but we know Bucky catches some passes too,
and he's super dynamic in the open field.
What are some other ways you would stack this
outside of Baker, Mike?
Well, I think you could stack it the way you just said,
and I think you can certainly to the buck stack,
like I said, add Bucky or to like you said,
add Jaylen McMillan.
He's definitely the number two receiver now.
So I like that a lot.
And then again, I'm willing to bring it back with, you know, Adam Thielen,
you could do Jaylen Coker, you can do Chubba Hubbard. Again,
there's so many pieces in this game that I like.
Mike, your thoughts on an alternative way to stack Baker Mayfield?
I would play him with Bucky Irving. I just, again, try to look for,
I know it's tough with that offense because of the other backs and everything
But I do think in the scenario that you get a tournament winning lineup from Baker. It's likely one
That's using a little bit of Bucky Irving to like really drive up that yardage total in that passing game
So I like stacking those two together
And really capitalizing on just offensive production there
and really capitalizing on just offensive production there.
Yeah, that looks like I've got a little bit of, the news here that we don't know yet, unfortunately,
that will matter is Kate Otten's status.
If he plays at 4,200,
I think you're going to want to include him
in a lot of your Baker Mayfield stuff.
If he doesn't play,
I think it just solidifies Bucky Irving's role
in the passing game even more.
So a little too early to tell there, but monitor the K. Dot in situation.
I think it is truly a coin flip at this point.
Like I do not have a strong take one way or the other.
Let me ask you this, Mike, if you're doing the Baker Bucky stuff, cause this reminds
me of earlier in the season when Christian McCaffrey was healthy, we would do Brock Purdy,
Christian McCaffrey.
I'm not comparing those two running backs by the way, so please don't do that to me. But if you're doing the Baker-Bucky
thing, are you also layering either Mike Evans or Jalen in some of those scenarios?
I could see the Mike Evans side. Jalen, yes, I think is also fine as well. A lot of that
really to me is going to depend on Kate Otten though, unfortunately, because I do think
Kate Otten does impact Jalen.
I think he impacts everyone maybe other than some of the upside for Mike Evans. Just Mike Evans isn't
typically a massive volume guy, just big play kind of guy. But I think Kate Otton would impact some
of the other guys quite a bit. Okay. And Meg, any final thoughts on this game before we move to
Colts Giants? No, other than, you know, there are a lot of games that I don't like a lot and I really,
really like this game.
That's fair enough.
By the way, I like that we have so many people active in the chat.
I want to give some people a shout out.
And by the way, if you're watching, have I said by the way, like five times already,
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I say it too much.
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Jeffrey, Smith Waller, Allen, Scott, AIB,
we've got a lot of people in here.
James, Oowe2K, I haven't seen you in a while.
Thanks for being in here.
We got Brian in here, Tristan, so many, Haas, Geo,
all in here.
We appreciate all of your participation.
All right, Giants Colts.
This one's interesting to me, Meg.
I'm gonna start with you.
Last week, my stack was Anthony Richardson to Josh Downs.
It was good.
Borderline, almost great,
but they stole a touchdown from Anthony Richardson and gave it to
Jonathan Taylor so I won money on
my Anthony Richardson stacks,
but I should have won a lot more.
So I was actually really
disappointed in that he's 5900.
He's going against the Giants.
I'm going back to it.
Josh Downs hasn't been priced up.
Him and Michael Pittman both under 5K.
Listen, I listen.
I understand he popped up on the injury report.
He's got some ankle and foot issues,
but I really think that's just a rest day. Jonathan Taylor, those 7900. Maybe he steals some more from
Anthony Richardson. My bottom line is here. I'm going back to this stack and I think there's some
interesting runbacks on the Giants. Are you in or out on this game?
Oh yeah, for me, I don't have a ton of interest on this game. I get the case for it because we always have the ceiling with Anthony Richardson.
We got the Josh Downs touchdown last week.
So have a little interest in Josh Downs.
Obviously, you could go back to the well and Jonathan Taylor.
For me, I don't have a ton of interest on the Giants side.
So I'll go ahead and say that because, you know, not every target is created
equal and coming from the Giants quarterbacks that is these are not obviously quality targets.
So no interest on the giant side for me, totally get your case for the Anthony
Richardson down stack.
And of course you can go back to Jonathan Taylor after what he did last week.
I don't know how much I would personally get there.
All right, Mike, your thoughts on this game.
Yeah, I think it's interesting.
Um, I like Malik neighbors.
You kind of saw it a little bit in that last game.
It wasn't a super impressive game because as Meg mentioned, we mentioned often not all targets created equally, but they do force feed the football his way.
And that's a clear directive from someone in the organization. It's going to continue to happen.
My only concern here in this game is we have to monitor the weather here a little bit. It's not going to be particularly cold. We're talking 50s, like warm in this game, but it is potentially going to rain with 15 mile
per hour winds. So we do need to monitor that because we're looking at rain for like four or
five days in a row here. So if we're getting into a rain situation, it would be a lot of Jonathan
Taylor for me and quite a bit of Anthony Richardson still. I like Anthony Richardson as it is, but if weather forecast becomes
clear, I actually love the skinny stack of Anthony Richardson, Malik neighbors and move
on. I is something I really, really like this week.
Monitoring the weather huge there because we get wind and rain that kind of shakes things
up a little bit. Malik neighbors. I mean, so I had a winning week in the prop in the betting department on sports line
last week.
One of my losses though was Malik neighbors.
I had him over 69 and a half receiving yards.
He got to 68.
But again, my process was good.
He had 14 targets, you know, it's true locks.
So some of them not catchable.
But if he's going to get 14 targets or even 12 targets, I'm all in on Malik neighbors
at 6,600.
Wondandel Robinson,
Mike, you might have mentioned him at 4400 I think is interesting.
If you want to kind of dumpster dive, but there's other dumpster dive
options in other games. And I think it's a good time to move on to
another game. But let me ask you, Meg, in or out on Jonathan Taylor,
is he in the player pool? Or you just go on a different direction?
He's in the player pool, but I don't know how much I'll get to him.
Mike, is it a similar answer for you? Yeah, I Yeah, he won't be in my top three, but I don't know how much I'll get to him. Mike, is it a similar answer for you?
Yeah, I yeah, he won't be in my top three, but probably top five. Okay, well, we'll get to your top three later in the show, but let's
bounce around to Titans Jaguars. This one's interesting. We had a comment in the chat.
I'm forgetting who it was from. Mason Rudolph stacks were apparently showing up in his runs,
optimizers, what have you you Mason Rudolph is 5k
Listen, there's some pieces here that he can throw to we know Meg about Calvin Ridley. He's 5,500
It seems to be price effective
although we're not seeing Mason Rudolph necessarily throw it down the field like will Levis did in terms of like
Ariards and stuff like that where Calvin Ridley really grabs those those long bombs
But I mean he caught one last week.
If memory serves, he had a nice little touchdown early Chigga Conquist 3600.
I understand the argument for this game.
And thank you, Claire, on the ones and twos.
It's Brian on Nosikov.
I might have butchered that last name. Apologies.
Who had the Mason Rudolph question?
Meg, anything in this game?
It's only a lowly thirty nine and a half point total.
But I don't know. Tony Pollard, Calvin Ridley, a Conquist.
Decent. And then, oh, by the way, Brian Thomas on the other side.
Yeah, oh, by the way, Brian Thomas,
I mean, he is just absolutely so fun to watch
and what a rookie season he's having.
So definitely have a ton of interest on Brian Thomas,
even though he's not playing with a very good quarterback.
And then on the Titan side, I mean, I almost wrote,
like, should I consider Mason Rudolph? Because I do like Calvin Ridley and Chigga Conquo. Chigga Conquo is getting a ton of targets the last two weeks with Rudolph.
And then, oh, by the way, we got a little Calvin Ridley revenge game if you want to go to that narrative. But yeah, I mean, I absolutely think there's a very condensed target tree there for a Calvin Ridley, Chig Aconquo. So if you want to do Mason Rudolph, I don't hate it,
but I have a lot of interest in Calvin Ridley,
Chig Aconquo, Brian Thomas Jr. in this game.
Mike, I don't think the Aconquo thing is like chasing.
I think he's just getting the targets for Mason Rudolph.
I ended up playing him a lot.
I am jamming him into some lineups that did pretty well.
At 3,600, I still think he's a bargain.
How are you playing this game? I'm playing it. I actually think he's a bargain. How you playing this game?
I'm playing it.
I actually think I'm probably gonna have a
Mason Rudolph double, believe it or not.
It just, it works.
It works.
You know, I know we don't like to share lineups
on the show, but I'm going to because it's the holidays
and we're just, we're just gonna do it.
Cause it works.
I mean, this lineup to me is kind, it's kind of nice.
It's a Mason Rudolph double.
We go Rudolph, Bucky Irving, Aaron Jones, Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas, Mike Evans, Chigga Konkwu, Adam Thielen.
And you've got three thousand for your defense. It kind of works.
Meg, that sounded good to me.
I like it. I actually like it. It's now making me a little more confident about these Mason Rudolph stacks. And then I also have to throw out that Chig Aconquo.
I did a very late round tight end build and Chig is on my finals team. So really pulling
for Chig to keep up those targets this week. Maybe get in the end zone.
Good timing. Cause Andrew Peterson is in the chat and he says, Meg is the best ball goat.
Congrats this season. Keep crushing. Oh, thank you.
For the record, Meg puts out picks on Sportsline and articles on CBS Sports.com and
Sportsline so you can check out her work other than I mean you do you have your other site too which somehow the names
alluding me Meg where you actually focus on best ball like you do with Sportsline. What was the name of that?
Fanspeak.com we had best ball content all summer long and we will probably starting by Superbowl this
year.
We'll certainly be doing similar stuff for CBS sports and sports line as well.
So a good shout out, Andrew Peterson.
Absolutely appreciate that.
Okay.
Well, full disclosure, I think I'm not going to be on the Mason Rudolph stacks, but I'm
not, this is not me being critical.
I am going to take pieces of this game.
Brian Thomas makes a lot of sense.
Although if everybody's going to play him, Mike, I got to ask you about ownership. He's got to be one of the more popular receivers
on the slate. If everybody's going to play him. I actually don't mind fading him given that Mac
Jones is his quarterback and it's possible he doesn't get there. Uh, is his ownership looking
like out of control or what? Yeah, it is. It is up there. Uh, I would say that he's going, well,
maybe 20%. I could see it steaming a little higher.
I mean Mike Evans is going to be the clear chalk. We'll see what Tyree Kill ends up being depending
on just the price point and everything there. And then neighbors stealing. So he's right in
that range but I do think that he will probably steam up a little higher than what I'm showing right
now.
Okay.
Good stuff.
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All right, Brian Goodwin says, thank you, Mike. Love a lineup that I can change around
some pieces. I think that's the point too. Like things change as we approach the slate,
whether it comes to weather, injury reports, value popping up, things of that nature. So
it's always helpful to get into the mind of, of Mike and, and, and how his simulations
work. So take that information and do what you want with it.
So absolutely appreciate that. Hit the like button, by the way, if you haven't already,
let's talk about Raiders Saints a game. We don't want to hit the like button for, if
I'm being honest, Aiden O'Connell, listen, I've, I've been a part of the Aiden O'Connell
experience. I've played him, I think last week I might've played him in the afternoon
slate. Uh, whoops, that didn't work out. Like I thought Aiden O'Connell had some upside
potential perhaps Mike. He does in this matchup against the Saints, but I got to tell you, I don't care what values
opening up. I mean, Kendra Miller's 5,500. That doesn't seem like a ton of value to me.
The receiver core, I suppose, like a Kevin Austin or Dante Pettis, if you wanted salary
release relief at a three K or 3.1, you could do that. But Brock Bowers, Jacoby Myers, I
get it. I'm out on this game.
It's a 38 point total. Mike, your thoughts on this one.
Yeah, I'm mostly out on like skill position players. I have some interest in the Raiders
defense on DK mostly just because they're 2600. And if you need a cheap D, I think it
could be worse than that. So I definitely think that there are worse options
than the Raiders D in this particular spot.
What we've seen out of the Saints,
I know it's a dome game and I know it's not gonna be
as ugly as it was at Green Bay, but it's still not pretty.
And it's not going to be pretty the rest of the way.
So I think Raiders D and move on
would be my interest in this game.
It's not pretty is about the nicest thing you can say about what we've seen from the
saints. It's holiday season. So Mike is turning on the charm for the euphemisms for some of
what we've seen from both the Raiders and the saints. Mike, I do. So I'm going to get
to you, Meg right now, but Mike, there was a question about defenses. When we do your
top three, which we're going to cover at each position in a few minutes, we don't always
do the defenses. So I'm going to ask Meg about this game.
And if there's a couple other defenses that are popping up in your simulations,
maybe we could come back to that now.
And other than the Raiders Meg, any interest in this game?
Yeah, it's an ugly game.
I will just throw out in addition to the Raiders defense, you could
pair it with a Raiders running back.
It's not pretty, but for salary relief, if you want to go to Madison or Miradoula
has, has two games near, I believe, 20 DK points because he gained the targets.
I think he's found the end zone two weeks in a row.
Again, not pretty, but if you need some salary savings, that is an option.
Wheels Up is in the chat.
This is who I think it is.
Wheels Up does his own DFS show.
It's very good.
He says, Raiders D, that is all.
And I think that's probably the way to close this particular game out.
And I'm trying to find something to say, listen,
I played Madison in the afternoon slate as well, uh,
in other lineups than eight Aiden O'Connell and Abdullah would just look like the
more effective back. And you just don't know what, what share is going to what.
So I hear you on Madison, but it just seems like a huge headache.
This seems like maybe a ball control game and the teams get in and get out. All right. Not maybe not
a ball control game here. Jets bills, 47 point total. Obviously the bills are a huge favorite
in this one. Still sticking around nine and a half. Although Mike, I don't know if there's
Kansas city chiefs solidifying the one seed impacts this game really.
Cause I do think the bills have something to play for still in solidifying the two seed impacts this game really? Because I do think the bills have something to play for still
and in solidifying the two seed.
With all that said, Mike, I'll start with you.
Josh Allen, 8500 very expensive.
The receiver core with Shakir and Amari and Kion and Mack
and Curtis Samuel and Kincaid.
Like I'm out on all that.
James Cook, I think is an interesting contrarian play at 7200.
And then there's the other side of the ball.
So start with the billsills and let me know
if you like any Jets as well.
Yeah, I need to investigate the scenarios
for the Bills losing the two seed.
I think we've seen some of the coach speak and all that.
They say they're going to really kind of close the playbook,
so to speak.
They're not gonna put anything else on film.
So I expect a very conservative game plan.
I would be more interested in stacking the Jets side
than anything here.
We watched the Patriots be able to push the Bills
just a touch in that game.
And again, the Jets,
while it's been an awful season for them,
they're playing a lot closer to a playoff team right now
than they are playing as a bottom of the league team.
So I think it's still an audition for Aaron Rodgers
and company to continue to get the opportunity to play.
So I think Rogers doubles makes sense to me,
just cause you know exactly where the volume's going.
It's very, very clear cut.
So I have a little interest on the Jets side only,
no bills for me.
Yeah, it's interesting because we have an implied total
for 27 for the bills,
but it's creeping to 20 Meg for the jets. And Mike's right, you know, when you know
where the volume is going, like to me, if I, if I'm looking at, I'm not really actually
doing math here, but if I'm looking at a 20 point implied total, but I know where the
volume is going to me, it almost like, I want to like add four points because I, like, I
just know where the scoring is likely going. It's Devante Adams and Garrett Wilson. I'm
not stacking the jet side, but I think if you wanted to
take like for me, I kind of want to take a piece of
maybe Devante Adams, even though it's 7100 any thoughts
on that. Maybe you like the stack on on that side. Maybe
you like Josh Allen. What are we doing in this game?
We've discussed it the last few weeks. I do think Rogers
doubles are definitely in play here. Sometimes the past
couple weeks. Sometimes it's gotten there. Sometimes it hasn't, but I do definitely I doubles are definitely in play here. Sometimes the past couple weeks, sometimes it's gotten there.
Sometimes it hasn't. But I do definitely I think it's in play
here. For sure. I'll say that. I also think if you do want to
take just a piece of Devante Adams or Garrett Wilson, I
think there's a little squeaky wheel there. You certainly
could. And then you go Josh Allen's always in play, but I
would not stack them. I mean, trying to pick what would be who
would be the stack with him feels very, very a difficult task.
So if you do play Josh Allen,
I would just honestly play him naked
and maybe run it back with like a Devonte Adams
or Gary Wilson.
Mike, I'm seeing that there might be some precipitation
in this game as well.
And that makes sense, right?
Buffalo, we talked about New York,
like the Northeast might get afflicted with some rain.
I'm not seeing a ton of wind in any of these games,
but if we start to see rain come down,
does that affect your position on Rogers double stacks
or really anybody in this game?
I mean, if it's really, you know, heavy heavy rain,
then yeah, definitely.
But if it's just kind of a light rain,
then probably not going to affect a lot.
I know a lot of people want to play Buffalo guys.
Like I the problem is is I don't think they're going to push too terribly hard Um, I know a lot of people want to play Buffalo guys. Like I, I, the problem is,
is I don't think they're going to push too terribly hard.
They obviously want to win.
They need one win in the final two games to grab the two seed. Uh,
they could lose it out to Baltimore if they were to lose both of those games.
Uh, they would lose the seat assuming Baltimore wins. So like,
if you want to play cook, it's fine. I just think there's better running back plays.
So again, I would not force them run back here.
I'm mostly off of the bills in the final two games here.
Yeah. And we have a question from Uwe to Kay.
Like is cook a safe play?
I mean, I don't know that safe is how I'd characterize it,
but Mike and Meg like with, with head nods or head shakes,
like he does seem like a pretty good contrarian play.
Cause I don't think a lot of people will get to a James Cook 7200 right? Sure. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. So maybe maybe a
tournament play to consider in spite of the fact that you know, Ty Johnson, we know Ty
Johnson, Ray Davis sometimes get involved. All right. The last of the one o'clock games
I believe is Cowboys and the Eagles. Claire is on it. Props to Claire. Hit the like button
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Cowboys plus 8.5.
It's a 41.5 point total. Nothing
super exciting here from a
scoring standpoint but we've got some
exciting players. Mike, I'll start with you.
Saquon Barkley, 8600.
At this point, it's hard to look away from
him regardless of what his price is.
I don't know what's going on with Jalen Hurts. I don't think anybody has confirmation on that.
AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, regardless, I'm out on both of those. Although Devontae's price of 5,800
makes sense. Cowboys side, we have C.D. Lamb. The AC joint sprain really kind of makes me a little
scared about that. Rico Dowdle, I'm out on the Cowboys. Barclay is the only one I'd consider
here. Tell me I'm wrong. Yeah, no, you're not wrong at all.
I think we need Jaylen Hurt's news big time.
If, you know, before you can really do anything,
if we get a scenario where Hurt's is out,
I actually would probably play Kenny Pickett here at 5,500.
I think he's actually still got a tiny bit of rushing upside.
I know a lot of it at the goal line,
obviously he's gonna go to Saquon,
but it would be a scenario where I'd have some interest
in basically playing Pickett and Saquon together
and just backing this Eagles offense to roll still
and still put up 30 points in this game.
And I think you could do a lot worse than that.
But I can't do a ton with this game, unfortunately,
until we know the status of Jalen Hurts
because it does impact everything
in a really, really big way.
And I think we have to monitor if Jalen Hertz is declared out, we have to monitor what that does with the total, probably nothing because it's already so low.
But if the total is what it is now, I mean, we still have a 24 and change total
for the Philadelphia Eagles.
So that's obviously not nothing.
So I think that would be the justification in considering like a Kenny Pickett
type lineup. I will say this.
I thought he might've had like some sort of ribs issue that we have to
monitor.
Meg, I see you kind of nodding your head there.
And if that's the case,
maybe some of the rushing equity sort of gets kind of like taken away there
something again,
these these types of things we have to monitor Meg your thoughts on this game.
Yeah,
if it hurts is out and pickets in I don't I don't I don't mind Mike's call of just kind of soaking up all the the scoring equity with Saquon and Kenny Pickett.
So I don't mind that at all. I'm like you, I'm out on the Cowboys. I just, you know, it's a little too risky there. And then, you know, I know Washington got over on them, but not many other people, not many other teams have this is has been a very good Eagles defense. So out on the Cowboys, I would say just
say one was my main interest and then you could make a case for
for a picket. But you Yeah, it's just really, really watched the
injury news on this one.
Meg, I'm sorry. I was so busy last Sunday just doing non
football things that when you say Washington got on them, them
being the Eagles, I have no idea what you're referring to. Can
you remind everybody including myself like what that might've been referring to?
Yeah. Coming back and scoring what? Five touchdowns against this vaunted, vaunted Eagles defense to,
to win. And yeah, we're putting ourselves in a very nice playoff position, which is very exciting.
Well, that is shocking. I did not know that. That is, that is big news for Washington. Five
touchdowns. That doesn't even sound right against that vaunted Eagles defense. Like
you said, but, uh, just, I just stat checked that and it confirmed, uh, that actually happened
to four o'clock games. Let's start with the dolphins and the Browns. You know, I'm so
mad at the Browns. First they give us Deshaun Watson for two months, which was like a complete
disaster in every possible form of that work. And then they're like, Oh, we're going to
get to Jamis Winston. And then they take like, Oh, we're going to get your Jamis Winston.
And then they take him away when he gets to play or should be getting to play
the Cincinnati Bengals defense.
They give us DTR for six points.
Like give Jamis that game.
I think Jamis deserved that game against the Cincinnati Bengals.
That would have been a back and forth affair.
It would have been probably like 60 total points.
And we missed out. And I'm really, really upset about it.
All right. I don't love this game, but there certainly are pieces.
Mike, I'll start with you on this one.
HN 7700.
Boy, did he make my day by not sliding and scoring a touchdown at the end
because I had him in so many lineups.
7700 most are, you know, getting some action.
He looked kind of spry too, but HN at 7700 hard to look away there.
Tyree kill 6900.
John who 5,700 Mike,
do you like this game?
I do actually.
I like a little bit of the Miami pieces.
HN number one for me for sure.
I just, the workload is incredible.
I mean, he's getting seven plus targets every day,
every game and you know, 10 to 20,
depending on the game script touches
in the running game as well. So I just
love the way that he is involved and I think he should be an 8,000 plus stellar player still.
So considering there's value at quarterback and kind of mid-range receiver I do like paying up
for A-chan here. Tyree Kill I think is still playable 6900 as long as he's on the field.
He's got to monitor the injury. I think he still plays through it the rest
of the way, but something to monitor. But for me, it'd be a
chant as a primary piece here.
Yeah, monitoring injuries and whether going to be really
important because this one is up in Cleveland. And again, what's
interesting is that the temps in the Northeast mag are don't
look to be cold really, especially for this time of
year. It's just the precipitation that could be an
issue. Wind doesn't look to be like a huge factor.
What do you like on the Dolphin side?
And are there any Browns like Jerome Ford
at 5,900 that you like?
Yeah, I think obviously eight hands in play.
You could go back to Johnu obviously as well.
Those would be the two main Dolphins pieces for me.
And then of course, Jerome Ford on the Brown side,
I think is probably the only Browns player
I have interest in. Okay, I think we can the only Browns player I have interest in.
Okay, I think we can move on.
Maybe you just said this.
You are in on John, you're the John New Smith whisperer.
I have to ask you again, you're in on John New Smith at 5700?
Yes, I am in on John.
I likely will play Chica Conqua or somebody tight end cheaper,
but if you did do tight end, two tight end lineups,
or just if you did want to spend up, I do like John in the air.
All right. We're onto the next game. Packers minus one at the Vikings 48 and a half point
total, a big game and exciting game. Uh, two quarterbacks that can get there to running
backs that can get there. Let's see. I'm counting one, two, three, maybe four receivers that
can get there. A couple of decent tight ends, particularly TJ Hawkinson. Meg, I'll start
with you. There's so much you can do with this game. Like the main slate, I feel like we just bracketed the main
slate in terms of we started with the Buccaneers, which has the same total, and we ended this eight
game slate. And by the way, we still have our cheat sheets in our top three. And we're going
to discuss the Saturday slate later in the show. But this is like the other game that I think people
will really gravitate to others as well. But these two, what do you like in this one?
Yeah, I think there's lots of like there.
The first matchup early in the year was a shootout.
It was more of a Packers fell very far behind.
And then Jordan Love had to kind of play with his hair on fire
and really had a massive ceiling game because of that.
But Darnold, as he's looked good all year long, looked great in that game as well. So I think
you could go to really any piece in this that you kind of want to play. You could stack up Darnold with Jefferson and
Addison. You could stack up Love, though that's a much tougher task because of their receiving core. You could approach it
from the running backs. You could add the running backs to the stacks. I just I really think it's just kind of, you know,
dealer's choice and however you want to play it. But obviously, I
think this could be similar to the first game, a very high total
game, and definitely have interest in a lot of pieces here.
Yeah, Mike, I have some interest in pieces in here as well. But I
think it's the is the Viking side that I like the best. And it's
partly because we do get that more condensed target share with
the Vikings with Justin Jefferson, Addison, and
of course, TJ Hawkinson kind of kind of getting in the mix
there too. I do think an interesting contrarian play,
maybe it's not contrarian because his price is so low. But
Aaron Jones at 6200 has my interest as maybe a double
leverage piece off of these stacks. What's your interest on
the Viking side specifically?
Yeah, Aaron Jones is popping as the top option for me,
Hawkinson a decent amount as well.
And then as you mentioned,
it is mostly heavy Viking side.
Because again, I think that as you mentioned,
the targets while it is expanding with Hawkinson back,
it's still pretty concentrated.
So and it's concentrated in that we kind of understand
some of the correlation as well.
So you can build, you know, an Addison
or an Addison Jefferson lineup or just the hockey, you know,
you can build for certain scenarios
pretty easily with that team.
So I'm way more interested there.
I do have some Addison, I do have a little Jefferson,
a lot of Aaron Jones though,
a lot of Aaron Jones at 6 6200. I think this is a
really good spot for him. I'm not getting anything really on the Packers side, really at all.
It makes sense a little bit to me if you want to, like, yeah, stack it up. Take a shot on
Christian Watson. He has a questionable tag, so monitor it. Take a shot on some of those guys, but the pricing, I'd kind of rather focus on the Minnesota guys and then still
sprinkle in the guys like Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas, things like that and similar price
ranges. So Minnesota only really hear from me.
Meg, this does seem like the type of game where you could stack up Sam Darold with two
pass catchers and whatever, however you want to stack it and not have a run back.
And you know, if Christian Watson were to be out,
which I don't think he will be,
I think that makes it a little bit easier
because it condenses a little bit.
But I mean, Jayden Reed, like, do you go there?
He's not on the field all the time.
Romeo Dobbs, I do like that at 5,100.
He's a red zone machine.
Don Tavian Wicks got into the mix.
He's only 3,900.
But now Luke Musgrave's back.
Tucker Kraft, like, even if Watson is out,
which again, I don't think he will be,
I'm not 100% sure there,
I can't see myself getting to any pass catchers
or Josh Jacobs at 8,100.
Do you agree?
Yeah, I think it's kind of price prohibitive
for some of the top options.
And then again, if Watson's in,
it's just such a crowded wide receiver or pass catching core.
Yeah, OUI2K says no Jacobs love.
Yeah, that's true.
By the way, there were some questions.
It's probably my sixth, by the way.
I will say they have been getting Jacobs
a little more involved in the passing game.
I do like to see that on DK.
So that's at least nice because if they get him
a little more involved in the passing game,
he has been getting a lot of high value touches
and scoring touchdowns.
So I think he still could be a contrarian piece
for that reason.
That's what I was gonna ask Mike.
Are you looking at ownership?
I can't imagine Josh Jacobs is a top five running back
from an ownership standpoint.
He's not far off actually.
It's about sixth.
He's coming in right now about 20%,
which I think is a touch high.
My data says that I should play him around 12 to 13%.
So it's just a little over owned.
And I think intuitively that probably makes a little sense
to you guys and everyone as well, right?
If you said Josh Jacobs is 20%, you're like,
and maybe I don't want to play into that.
But if I said, Josh Jacobs, you know ahead of time,
it's 12%, you're like, okay maybe I don't want to play into that. But if I said Josh Jacobs, you know, ahead of time, it's 12%.
You're like, okay, yeah, probably. Right. So it's like right on that, that range.
I think the guys that could really impact it though, is just however the
field gets to Devon HN and Jonathan Taylor. And for those two, it's a weather
situation for me, um, that me that both could benefit from.
But I ultimately think A. Chan and Taylor take away a little bit of the Jacob stuff,
but I think they're all kind of evenly dispersed to the point where none are like just must
haves.
And real quick, there were a couple of questions going back to that Jets game about Breece
Hall in terms of any love for him.
I'm out on Breece Hall.
Meg, I'll start with you. Any Breece Hall love? Yeah, I didn't know. I don't. I'm out on Brice hall. Meg, I'll start with
you. Any Brice hall love?
Yeah, I didn't know. I don't think I'm getting the Brice hall. No, Mike. Nope. All right.
Yeah. It was AIB and at least one other person asking about Brice hall. It's definitely,
definitely a no for me. All right. Well, we've got a lot more to cover. We just covered the
eight games, but we still have our cheat sheets. Mike's top three at each position. And we're
going to have a short discussion on the three game Saturday slate, which is kind of fun because those three games are staggered early
in the day, mid afternoon and eight o'clock at night.
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We're back on FFTDFS. Gerard Ford says, I asked Santa for Sia's hair.
No such luck. Well, you can always ask next year. Let's see what happens. But thank you for that
compliment. Jeffrey Lightsey says, question for all three. If Christian Watson isn't a go,
would a Green Bay stack interest you guys? Interesting question. We kind of addressed it.
I still think it's too condensed of a target share and there's too much volume in the running game
going to Josh Jacobs for me to be really excited about that. Meg, your thoughts real quick.
Yeah, I don't know that I'll get to the Green Bay side,
even in that situation, because I do think,
you know, they have been a little more run heavy,
and I do think that Love got there
because they were playing from such a negative game script
last time, the first time they met.
So I don't... So my answer would probably be no.
Mike, your thoughts?
Yeah, honestly, I talk about this a lot here.
I think that I would only do it in small field stuff.
So like single entry or three max stuff
with smaller contests.
And I would probably just stack love in Jacobs
and just bet on the Packers scoring 30 points in the game,
potentially bring back on the other side.
Well, not potentially,
definitely bring back on the other side. But I would rather just, you know, we've seen Jacobs get involved in the game, potentially bring back on the other side. Well, not potentially, definitely bring back on the other side, but I would rather just,
we've seen Jacobs get involved
in the passing game a little more.
I would basically, if you've stacked Jordan Love
and Josh Jacobs, you are going to get exposure
to nearly every point offensively in terms of scoring.
So that's how I would play it personally,
but you're not gonna win a Millie maker with that.
You're going to win a single maker with that you're going to
win a single entry kind of thing with that.
What's interesting is we have a two game afternoon slate. So you
could really get creative with your and try to get lucky with
certain pieces from the Green Bay side with that two game
slate, similar to what we had yesterday. So Jordan love stacks
probably won't be the most popular in that between Dolphins,
Browns, Packers Vikings
It'll probably I'm guessing it'll be Sam Darnold stuff in that two game slate
Maybe some to a stuff tied with Jordan Love stuff
So get creative there on the main slate you get creative to just have to wait on the news on Christian Watson
I think all right Meg your cheat sheet. Let's start with your favorite stack chalk by chalk fade contrarian and value play sure
So my we talked about it off the top of the show, uh, Baker,
uh, to Mike Evans mix, feel free to mix in Bucky Irving, um, and J and Macmillan
in that one. So that's my favorite stack. My fade is going to be neighbors. Uh,
just he's looking to be, I own, and it's more because of who's throwing the ball
to, uh, my contrarianian play is gonna be Jordan Addison.
We talked about the Vikings stack potentially.
If obviously you always want to play Jefferson
in a Vikings stack, but Jordan Addison
is very intriguing there.
And then my value is gonna be Chigga Conquo,
both for best ball and DFS.
Hopefully he gets me there this week.
Okay. I am copying one of your picks because,
and I'll start there with the value.
I like Chigga Conkwo. I put him into a lot of lineups last week and it really ended up
paying off. So I want to just get it out early that I'm on him again. I really like how he
matches up specifically with Mason Rudolph as the quarterback here. But let's start with
the stack. We're going to go Anthony Richardson to Josh Towns. I'm going right back to the
same stack last week against the Giants. Of course, if the conditions get messy with the weather, I will pivot off of this very
easily.
So just obviously keep that in mind.
But a rich to Josh Downs is my play there chalk by Bucky Irving.
I mean, I'll listen.
I know he splits with Rashad White, but if they have any interest in actually winning
this game and making the playoffs, which I still think they will.
And at minus one 35, I think it's a good bet because I do think the Falcons will end up
losing to Washington this week. The other game for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
is the Saints, I believe. So they're going to, they're, well, it's the Saints in the
Carolina Panthers. So I think they're going to coast. They need Bucky Irving. So I like
that. My Chuck Fade is going to be Justin Jefferson. Just not going to get there with
him. I don't mind if you decide to play him, but, but he's pretty popular. I'm not going
to get there. My contrarian play. I, I had a tough time coming up with this one.
Jerome Ford not getting a lot of ownership and I do think they lean on him in the receiving game
and in the running game a good amount. And then of course I mentioned my value play of Achiha
Conquo. All right, Mike, top three at each position. And I did forget to come back to you on defenses.
So after you give that out, maybe I'll ask you about a couple of defenses outside of the
Raiders that you like, but let's start at quarterback.
I'm going to go Anthony Richardson one, just the rushing upside.
They obviously lots to play for. So I like that for them and for him,
Baker Mayfield too. And Mason Rudolph, I've listed three right now.
It was close between him and Bryce young.
And ultimately why I'm listing Rudolph is I feel that I can get
a lot of the exposure to Bryce Young through just Baker Mayfield's stacks and those game stacks.
So I'm going to elect to just play Baker and bet that he outscores Bryce and still build around
that. And then Mason Rudolph, just the price point, the doubles, they make a lot of sense.
You've seen some of the clear volume with Chigga Kon Konkuk Calvin Ridley. So give me a little Mason Rudolph here. All right running backs
Bucky Irving Aaron Jones Devon H. Ann. I like Bucky Irving a lot again part of that that team that's got to win
He's just so dynamic in the passing game
Aaron Jones little bit of a revenge narrative against the Packers. Not a revenge.
They love each other, but it's a plot that he certainly gets up for.
And then Devon Aitchend.
Just the volume's incredible.
I think we could see a tiny bit of weather, and I think he's going to succeed here again.
Okay.
Top three wide receivers.
Pretty chalky here, but I think it's clear, good chalk.
Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas.
Again, I'm playing Rudolph, so I like Ridley.
I like Brian Thomas as the bring back.
I think that game, despite a 39 and a half point total,
is a good candidate for an ugly over.
A 23-20 kind of game with a lot of passing volume.
So yeah, Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas.
Okay, and then finally, top three tight ends. Chigga Konkwu, TJ Hockinson and
Britton Strange. I like those three again, but it's mostly Chigga Konkwu is going to be
the guy I'm going to bet on again. You know, we've seen 21 targets in the last two weeks.
No reason to think it stops here at this point. And for the record, even though we're not explicitly
saying like these are the cash game plays, these are the tournament plays, it's pretty clear based on what we're discussing and how
we're discussing some of these players like Jigga Conquo, you know, like Bucky Irving,
for example, like some of these other players, like where you might be able to find the right
pieces for your cash game plays and the defenses, Mike.
Yes, I'm going to start with the Raiders, just price point and pick on the Saints.
Right now, I've got the Dolphins actually, number two.
I know it's a road game,
but Cleveland is a mess right now as well.
Then after that, for me,
it's a toss-up here.
I'm looking at the Eagles still as
a team that I think should be more than 3,100 frankly,
playing against Dallas.
And then the Colts against the Giants,
if we get a little bit of weather,
I think it would be a fantastic spot
to back the Colts on the defense.
And you got the stack essentially with Jonathan Taylor
and or Richardson.
Yeah, I love that.
I gotta say, cause there was somebody that asked about
Devin Singletary, if Tyrone Tracy is out, if there would be any interest there.
The answer to that is no.
I think the Colts are good.
For the record, I think they're the best team in the AFC South.
I actually said that preseason, that was my pick to win the AFC South.
This is a good team.
It's just Anthony Richardson was so below average almost this entire season.
I thought, I didn't think he'd be amazing.
I just thought he had to be average and they would win this division.
Turns out, I think I was right because the Texans just have really regressed in a lot of different ways
But this front seven for the Colts is no joke like this is a good team and I think we've seen glimpses of it
We've seen some tough losses for them. Otherwise, they would be firmly. I know there's technically still in the playoffs
They would otherwise be firmly in this playoff mix
Anyway, just my thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts. All right.
Let's talk about the Saturday games real quick. Let's spend five minutes. We got a three game
slate. We got the Chargers and Pats 42 and a half point total Broncos, Bengals 49 and a half point
total, which is very intriguing. Always monitor weather. Of course, Cardinals Rams in a dome,
47 and a half point total. Mike, I'm going to start with you on this one. I mean, Chargers,
Pats not going to have a ton of intrigue in terms of stacking. Although I
think Drake May is always just going to be interesting, especially since he has some
low price options and guys like Kaishan Bhuti, who really shined last week, DiMario Douglas,
of course, Hunter Henry. Broncos Bengals is going to get everybody's interest. Understandable.
I think you can play both quarterbacks. Obviously all the, all the skill position guys, particularly on the, uh,
Bengal side are very intriguing. I like courtland Sutton at 6,300 and then
Cardinals Rams I think is really interesting. Matt Stafford only 5,700.
Pair him with Pooka Nakua at 8K. That one makes a lot of sense.
And then with James Connor may be out, but Trey Benson may be out.
You got some value in who's it going to be? Michael Carter, DJ Dallas.
Like these are like very men priced
oriented guys. I just said a lot but I'm just trying to cover
bases in a short amount of time like I'm going to start with you
what has your interest in this one?
Yeah, I think there's a couple just really clear spots. You
know, I think that you're most definitely going to be jamming
chase Brown and Jamar chase in the lineup. I think that you're most definitely going to be jamming Chase Brown and Jamar Chase in the lineup.
I think the question for me becomes is it a full on stack with Burrow or not? Or do I look to
get a little different? So the guy that I would get a little different with would be Kyler Murray and it's just the savings.
You know, clear spot where they need to go win game here. It's a dome. It's comfortable.
And the $1,200 is a big savings from Joe Burrow
to Kyler here.
So I'm looking at builds basically where I've got,
Chase Brown, Michael Carter, Cortland Sutton,
Jamar Chase, Marvin Harrison, Trey McBride,
Kyler Murray, like all in the same lineup.
That's basically where I'm looking,
I'm gonna jam the big volume guys in.
So like I personally,
especially if we get the Carter situation at running back,
I can't imagine a scenario that I would play a lineup
that didn't have all of Chase Brown,
Jamar Chase, Trey McBride in it.
I think that those three are a near must in every team.
Meg, your thoughts on this one,
those arguments make a lot of sense.
Are there other quarterbacks that you would consider? I mentioned Matthew Stafford, who I think is interesting.
Marvin Harrison's price. I know Mike just mentioned him at 5,200. It just keeps cratering
to like, do we jump on at this point? What are your thoughts on this three game slate?
Yeah, I think we're all going to want to gravitate to the second game, the Bengals and Broncos.
Obviously all the playoff implications are there. And then, you know, obviously from
a matchup standpoint,
it makes sense whether you want to, you know, pay down for a next stack
and run it back with Bengals or vice versa,
like Mike talked about, and do a burrow stack.
I think on that one, you just, I think you can overplay,
you know, like really stack up that game
if you want to kind of try to be different
because everybody's going to be playing that game.
Maybe you over stack it and add pieces like a Marvin Mims
who can have like a big explosive play something along those lines
If you want to get different in the stack department, this is there's gonna be a lot of best ball themed
Rooting interests. I wouldn't mind like a Herbert McConkey to be just to be different
But of course they can probably do what they want to get a win there against the Patriots.
But I would say that would be maybe a more contrarian stack.
But yeah, I would say maybe just over stack that second game.
Mike and Meg, I want to ask you about a couple of players before we get out of here that
we didn't really touch on too much.
And it's in that Broncos game, but it's on the Broncos side.
Well, for two players, I want to ask about Bo Nix, because there's another game I want to ask about somebody. Bo Nix at 6,200. We know the
rushing equity is potentially there. He's going against a bad defense. Again, I'm going
to say it again, monitor weather because it does look like we might see some precipitation,
but the temperature looks to be very solid. I think a Bo Nix, Cortland Sutton stack with
a couple of runbacks, chase Brown, Jamar Chase. I think that makes a lot of sense
too. Any thoughts, Meg, I'm going to start with you. Any thoughts on Bownix and maybe
Cortland Sun?
Oh, I definitely like the Bownix side, just saving a little there on that stack, probably
saving a little on the ownership side too. So yeah, I definitely am fine with the Bownix
stack. And again, I would probably to over stack it, maybe add a Marvin Mims piece.
Yeah, actually, that's a great call. Marvin Mims at 3,900. Mike, I would probably to over stack it, maybe add a Marvin Mims piece. Yeah, actually that's a great call.
Marvin Mims at 3,900.
Mike, I know, you know, there's other stacks that look a lot better, but it
seems to me like you'd at least get a little bit of leverage with a Bo Nix stack.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, possibly.
Um, I would rather play that if the slate was a little bigger personally, um, just
because of the nature of the slate, he's
still going to come with a decent ownership tag. So you're not like, I mean, you're separating a
little bit, but you're not separating in a big, big way. I'm a little off of it. I actually think
the Broncos are horrible defensively. I think they're almost as bad as the Bengals right now.
I think they've fallen off a cliff. So I love, I think I wouldn't shock me if since he put up 35 plus in
this game. Um, so I'm personally going to be way heavier on that side. And because of the situation
that we have ourselves in with Arizona, I like, I think Kyler Murray outscores Bonyx by a few points
here. So, all right. All right. Love that. One other guy I wanted to ask about was in this Rams
game. People are going to get, going to want to get pieces of puka.
Obviously, kind of Williams is going to get played, but in games like this, Kyron is just
like the guy. They don't really go to Blake quorum. He gets all the violence, like a Josh
Jacobs type role, even though he's not a Josh Jacobs type build necessarily. Are we like,
can we get Mike? I'll start. Well, Meg, I'll start with you on this one. Kyron Williams,
is he going to be in the pool or are you going to try to jam him into lineups or do you think you're just
going like we know there might be salary relief at the Arizona running back position we know Chase
Brown is going to be in the mix in lineups but it seems to me like Kyron Williams should be in that
mix as well. Yeah I definitely think Kyron has to be in the mix for especially for his volume and
I think you can attack the Cardinals on the ground too.
Hopefully, I think Rams are gonna probably want to just,
just try to play ball control.
I wouldn't be surprised about that either.
So yeah, that's a long way of saying
I like Kyron Williams a lot in this.
Mike, Kyron Williams popping up for you as well.
Yes, the question is really,
you know, how do you prioritize it with the sensei guys?
I think that, you know, winning this slate, the answer is going to be basically out of the three
between Kyron Williams, Jamar Chase and Chase Brown. You can, I mean, you can get all three
pretty easily, but you really are going to play two of those three comfortably and nailing which two of those are
will be ultimately what decides who wins this slate
in my opinion.
Okay. So if you had to order those,
it sounds to me like you really like the Cincinnati side.
Again, weather permitting and all that stuff,
which probably will be fine.
Chase Brown, Jamar Chase are the major priority for you.
They are the major priority,
although I am building right now.
And I do think that we can get all of them.
So we can, we can get all of them.
So I've got a lineup that I love with Kyler Murray
with Kyron Williams, Chase Brown.
Wait a minute, sorry guys.
It doesn't fit, unfortunately.
Yeah.
But Michael Carter does provide like,
if Connor and Benson are out,
you're jamming Michael Carter in?
Definitely.
Okay. Definitely.
All right.
Well, I think we covered what we could
on that three games like gave you some ideas,
covered the eight games late as well.
Gave you Meg's cheat sheet, my cheat sheet,
Mike's top three each position, including defense.
We did it all in 50 minutes.
It's not bad.
That's not bad. Uh, good stuff, Meg.
Thank you so much.
Uh, Mike, thank you so much.
This has been a great show.
You'll see us next Thursday.
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