Fantasy Football Today - NFL Draft Day One Winners and Losers (04/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  Two running backs in the Top 12!? Only three quarterbacks selected? And how about that run of wide receivers from 20-23!? It was a fun night with a lot of Fantasy implications and we'll tell you the winners and losers. First, a game of "Hey, Real Quick" (1:45) as Dave and Jamey tell you their favorite rookies at each position for 2023 and for dynasty ... Winners (8:40) include Bijan Robinson, Tony Pollard, Anthony Richardson and veteran QBs who added WRs in the NFL Draft ... Let's talk more about Richardson (16:35)! Are we getting too excited about him? Then let's rank Robinson and Jahmyr Gibbs (24:24) and we'll rank the WRs (35:15) for 2023. Jordan Addison has a great opportunity for early success ... It's time to talk about losers (43:50) including the Seahawks and Chargers WRs. How much of a downgrade are they getting as they have to compete for targets with rookies? And we finish by talking about Dalton Kincaid (53:00) with a bold prediction and a wager ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Three quarterbacks in the first four picks. Two top 12 running backs. That was pretty surprising. No wide receivers for the first 19 picks. And then, bam, 20 wide receiver. 21 wide receiver. 22 wide receiver.

20. I messed up. 23 wide receiver. I get that right? Yeah, 23 wide receiver. I can't count. You're on a roll. It's too late.

It's after midnight, 12.09 a.m. Eastern. Thanks for hanging out with us. If you're watching live on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasyfootball. Today, recapping day one of the NFL draft. Only three quarterbacks. None after those first four selections. That was a little surprising.

I'm Adam. Got Dave. Got Jamie. How were your mock drafts? How'd you guys do do I did better than I did last year all right um do I get credit for picking the right player at the right spot but to the wrong team no no then your your Giants uh got me ah yeah that's. I had banks at 24. Speaking of the Eagles. Okay, so wait a minute.

Do I get credit for Nolan Smith? I did have him mocked. Me too. I did. Yes. Right. I had him trading down a little bit, but not getting him a three.

Do I get credit for that? Only if I get it too. You get credit for it. I get credit for it as well. Everybody's a winner. All right. Winners and losers coming up in a second. I got eight quick questions for you.

This is, hey, real quick. Who is your favorite rookie quarterback in 2023? Anthony Richardson. Hey, real quick. Who's your favorite rookie quarterback in Dynasty? Richardson. Will Levis. No.

No. Richardson. It'svis. No. No. No. Who? Richardson. I don't. It's Richardson. Me. It's us.

Richardson. Stick together. If you're ranking him number one in 2023, you obviously think he's starting pretty early. Oh, we'll see. I don't think they take him at four to say, hey, Gardner Minshew, you're a guy. Unless he really sucks. Who is your favorite rookie running back in 2023? Oh, Charley.

Anthony Richardson. Well, is it Bijan or Gibbs? It's Bijan. You have to answer the questions. I'm sorry. They're very elementary. And in Dynasty, it's Bijan, right? Yes.

Yes. Okay. I'll substitute another question. As of right now now who is pick 1.2 in dynasty uh one qb league uh once the lions move on from swift it'll be good i might take the upside with anthony richardson and it could be Charbonnet, depending on where he ends up. Okay, who's 1.1 in a 2QB league? Richardson. Haha, okay.

This is a fun one. Who's your favorite rookie wide receiver in 2023? And for those of you who don't know, I should probably tell everybody. All right, so Bryce Young went to the Panthers, CJ Stroud to the Texans, Anthony Richardson to the Colts. The running backs are B. John Robinson,

eighth overall to the Falcons. Jameer Gibbs, 12th overall to the Lions. They traded back and they got him. That was interesting. Pete Prisco with a D. Nobody likes running backs in the first round. I get it. It's a terrible NFL pick.

We'll come back to that. The players who were on the board that they passed on? Especially Detroit. It was bad for Atlanta to a degree, but Detroit's was ridiculous. Gibbs wasn't

going to make it to 18? Right. Right. Just to go back to your previous question i i posted a poll when richardson went not knowing where bijan went at the time because it was after the fourth pick who should be the 101 in superflex leagues yeah bijan richardson bryce young or other uh bijan 70 of the vote yeah okay so so the wide receivers were jackson smith and jigba to the seahawks quentin johnston to the chargers zay flowers to the ravens and jordan addison

to the vikings so now back to hey real quick who's your favorite rookie wide receiver in 2023 addison jordan addison to the vik. Who's your favorite rookie wide receiver in Dynasty? Addison. Give me the chance to change my answer in one to two days, but for now it's Smith and Jigba. Look at Thomas Schaefer pumping. He's so pumped about Addison to the Vikings. Love it.

All right. Thomas, get to work. We'll figure out who won the draft contest. Thank you all, by the way, for your submissions. Hey, real quick. Dalton Kincaid or Kyle Pitts in 2023? Oh, stop it. Okay, wait.

Before you say that, I kind of feel like Dawson Knox outscored Kyle Pitts each of the last two years. He definitely did in 2021, in 2022. Yeah. On a per game basis, Dawson Knox outscored Kyle Pitts each of the last two seasons. I'm just saying, Kyle Pitts' team just drafted

Bijan Robinson and Dalton Kincaid's on the Bills. It's not that crazy. It is crazy. Because Knox is still there. Oh, forget him. The Bills aren't forgetting him. They're changing the way they're going to look at teams. Their GM already said so.

Geno Smith or Dak Prescott? You can move up Geno. Oh, stop. Well, was he that? Okay, fine. Geno Smith or Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones. That's close.

I'll take Gino. Gino was really good last year. He was a top five quarterback. Now he's got JSN. Yes, but his top five quarterback at 20 points per game was not exactly the most overwhelming season. I love watching reruns of

Card Sharks on JSN. Okay. I don't even know what we're promoting today. Check out the With the First Pick podcast. You should definitely do that. They're going to talk about all the results. Ryan, very anti Will Levis. He looks smart now.

And we have an episode for you tomorrow night. Well, I guess it's, I don't know when you're listening to this. After day two, after day three, and then we'll be back on Monday to recap it all. And we've got mock drafts next week. We've got the Dynasty Show with Heath. We've got some great stuff coming up. The Dynasty Show on Tuesday will be live rookie only mock draft. That makes sense.

Boy. That's a good Dynasty show. Would you like to know, to get you to Jameer Gibbs, maybe the weirdest pick of the night, how would you think of these guys? I'm going to tell you these running backs. How would you rate them for their careers? Kevin Jones.

Not great. Javid Best. Injuries ruin his career. Mike Lashore. Injury ruined his career. Amir Abdullah. Oh, I know you're heartbroken about that. Little Dab Abdullah.

Little Dab Abdullah. DeAndre Swift. He's a very good player. Yeah, injuries have ruined his career. These are five running backs. A lot of guys who went right. In the first or second round by the Detroit Lions. Injuries ruined their career. And here's 200-pound Jameer Gibbs,

who's never been a dominant full-time back. Maybe in high school he was. Getting the opportunity in Motown. So what's worse, that list or the list of quarterbacks who were selected number two overall in the last 26 seasons, which would be Ryan Leaf, Donovan McNabb, RG3, Marcus Mariota, Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and now CJ Stroud. It's really not that bad because McNabb was great.

RG3 was really good as a rookie, and he tore his ACL. Mariota's had an okay career. Carson Wentz, you know, was playing at an MVP level before he got hurt. You got Trubisky, you got Zach Wilson, you got Ryan Leaf on there. That's not good. But number two overall quarterback, it's kind of a dicey history. So let's do some winners and losers, NFL veterans or incoming rookies. Dave, you can start. Give me

some winners from day one of the NFL draft. Let's start with the most obvious one, the Philadelphia Eagles DST, who for one year will just absolutely, they should absolutely dominate because they've already got

good veterans. Well, the veterans are eventually going to move on. We're talking about Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox moving on. But they'll restock again with more Georgia Bulldogs in the 2024 draft. They'll be outstanding. So that's my first winner. I think Bijan's a winner. We were worried about him going to the Chargers, the Bills, the Cowboys, at least for one year.

And he went to a team where he should dominate touches, and it's a team that loves to run the ball, and a team that's got an amazing run scheme, great offensive line, very, very bullish on B. John Robinson. And just to kind of piggyback off that, Tony Pollard, winner so far. Okay. So Eagles DST. That was kind of a joke.

No, but it was a good night for them for sure. I can understand. There's these guys like Nolan Smith you see get in mock drafts. He goes very high. And then he ends up being the 30th pick. The Carter thing. I mean, we know why he's, he slipped down to nine.

They traded up from 10 to nine. Uh, I wonder about the non kind of off field guys. And he only had 12 and a half sacks, Nolan Smith in his four seasons at Georgia. So I don't know if every, if NFL GMs are just all idiots for passing him up or if he's overrated. You know what it kind of reminds me of?

Who did the Jets get? Oh, the FSU pass rusher. Last year, right? And he didn't really do much last year, as I recall. I can't say that with certainty, but it's not like he... People were acting like they stole the draft because people were mocking him

as a top 10 pick potentially as one of the jets uh early picks so it reminds me a little bit of that we'll see um jamie who you got bjorn robinson tony powert also winners for dave who you got as winners uh gabe davis and the fact that the bills didn't take a receiver that they took a tight end you know and the fact that it's not going to be somebody that plays on the outside you know there's been a lot of is gabe davis the right number two to play opposite Stephon Diggs? And so the fact that, at least as of now, they can still bring in DeAndre Hopkins, clearly. But if they escape without adding another premier receiver, which they did with the first round,

Gabe Davis is a winner. I'll go back to Anthony Richardson going to a team that has a coach that knows how to use a running quarterback and not a strong starter in place um he could be a number one fantasy quarterback by the end of the season based on what he should be able to do with his legs and we know what those guys have been like in years past these uh premier running quarterbacks he might be you know one of the best by the time his his career is done at least hopefully in terms of how he projects and then uh you can just lump all the veteran quarterbacks that got receivers into one category.

Gino Smith, Justin Herbert, Kirk cousins, all these guys, you know, come out of the draft looking like winners because they got weapons. So nice to see. I mean,

Lamar Jackson, probably the biggest winner overall. We should talk about that, right? Signs of your deal and get safe flowers. Yeah. And, we should talk about that, right? Signs a five-year deal and gets Zay Flowers. Yeah, and just looking at this receiving core now with a change in coordinator, you got to feel a lot better about Lamar Jackson's situation.

So if Beckham has anything left in the tank, Zay Flowers, we were talking about, could be the best receiver in his class. Wouldn't be surprised if he is. A healthy Rashad Bateman. It looks a hell of a lot better than it did a week ago for Baltimore right now.

Why don't you guys rank those four quarterbacks? I'll say them in the order of their NFL draft picks today. Geno Smith getting Jackson Smith and Jigba. Justin Herbert getting Quentin Johnston. Johnston being the bigger outside guy,

whereas the other guys are more slotty, slot-specific. Slotty? You know, they're slotty. Gino Smith, Justin Herbert, Kirk Cousins. Oh, no, sorry. Lamar Jackson getting Zay Flowers, Kirk Cousins getting Jordan Addison. Obviously, there's kind of two different tiers here,

but Dave, how would you rank those four quarterbacks? Lamar one Herbert, right behind him. Cousins, a big gap, then Kirk Cousins, and then a smallish gap, Gino Smith. Jamie. Yeah, I would agree. I had Herbert ahead of Lamar before the contract, and now that he's got his contract, I think it's easy to go back to Lamar based on what his legs should be able to do by comparison just to Justin Herbert's upside as a passer. But they're very close, and then Cousins, and then Gina. And if, let's say Lamar Jackson just signed his contract today, but they did not draft a wide receiver in the first round,

would you still have Herbert ahead of Jackson, or would you have made that move regardless? No, Jackson, once he signed the deal, look what he's had in years past. Marquise Brown was good, but that was the biggest difference maker in Lamar Jackson's game. He's got 4,000, 1,000 potential, and that's hard to overlook. Especially now. There's two other factors that help me put Lamar over Herbert

before Zay Flowers. Number one, it's a different offense. Todd Monken, different cat than Greg Roman. Me too. I did say Olsen. I'm sorry. Greg Roman. Not correct. Greg Roman. I think that that'll help keep opponents guessing against Baltimore, which makes their offense better. And number two, did either of you feel like maybe last year Lamar could have come back and played, but didn't talk of that. You know, he sort of, you know, I think tried to squash that. I would think that for a team that was leading the division when he went down, if I remember correctly, he does not strike me as that type of guy. So I would be surprised if that was the case now.

Well, it won't be the case anymore. Well, I mean, you never know. You know, now that he's got his guaranteed money, uh, you know, he, he may feel like, okay, I don't need to go out there and prove anything, but I, I don't think he's that type of player that he was going to low fit because he was trying to, you know, save himself. I think if he could have gotten the team to the playoffs at a hundred percent, he would have, he would have done so. All right. When we come back, we'll take a quick break here. We got losers to get to.

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All right. Earlier in the show, Dave and Jamie said Anthony Richardson was their QB1 among the rookies for 2023. And also with Dynasty? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah, that's fine. I think my issue is looking at him.

I mean, raw is obviously a word that gets thrown around a lot and you got to say, don't go there. He, as a passer, he is not, I don't think he's going to step in and be successful. And I don't think he's necessarily, it's not raw though. I don't think he's going to step in and be successful.

And I don't think he's necessarily. That's not raw, though. I don't think he's going to start. Well, when you have a 53% completion rate, I hope you're raw. Otherwise, you're just inaccurate. And I know there were drops and all that, but his completion rate is among the lowest that we've ever seen, or at least in the last 20, since Cam Newton, for a first-round quarterback.

So obviously this guy has a lot of work to do, and I don't think it's crazy for him to sit behind Gardner Minshew for a little while if he's not ready. I don't think that's ridiculous at all. I think they do draft him, even if they plan on sitting him in week one, or even if they're open-minded to sitting him in week one. I don't think they draft him at four and say, okay, he needs to be our day one starter. And also, I mean, there is, I personally agree. I think he's going to be good. I think they're going to, for fantasy at least. I think when you look at Jalen Hurts

and his struggles, when you look at what Justin Fields became from a fantasy perspective last year, when you look at Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson, I mean, Lamar Jackson was not a polished passer. These coaches know how to figure out a way to make these guys work. So I'm optimistic about him. But obviously he's got some downside here. You know, like I think a lot of people don't think he's a good quarterback yet. They're just hoping he will become one. So do we need to pump the brakes on Anthony Richardson?

I'm making the case that we do. I mean, I guess it's just relative to where you're pumping the brakes on. You know, you're saying pump the brakes on him to draft him for fantasy? If you're deciding, yeah, in a dynasty draft, when you're deciding between him and Bryce Young. If you're deciding between him and B. John, I mean, that's the obvious place to start when you're talking a super flex league. And so that's where I think people have to make that decision because if he hits and you're talking about a 10-year run,

if you want to go a five-year run, put him in the Lamar Jackson category, that's one potentially or a few dominant seasons or where Justin Fields is now hopefully ascending to, you know, based on what we saw or Jalen Hurts. So you have to take that into consideration, knowing that the running back value is like a car. Once it comes off the lot, it starts to get worse and worse. You know, there could be a good two or three year stretch. And then, you know, unfortunately that position just is what it is.

So that, that I think is a, is a tough call, but I think when you're comparing them to this class of, of his position, you know, Bryce Young is tiny. And you don't know how that's going to materialize. We've already seen Kyler Murray get hurt four years in or multiple times. But we see running quarterbacks get hurt all the time. So I think you've got to throw that in there for Richardson. Yeah, that's true.

But to what extent are these injuries? Is it Justin Field's bang banged up shoulder type injury? Is it Jalen Hurts, you know, dealing with, what do you have shoulder injury to? And Lamar Jackson. Or is it RG3 tearing his ACL, you know, in year one? But Russell Wilson ran the early part of his career, you know, avoided injury.

Russell Wilson was also small and he avoided injury. Bam! Yeah, no, yeah, that's true. He was short, not small. That's true. I think, for me, the quarterback comparison is easy because if he hits, he's going to be better than Bryce Young

and CJ Stroud, even if they hit, because of what he'll do with his legs. That's, to me, a no-brainer. When you start to compare him to other positions, that's where I think you have, obviously, a lot more different directions to go. Yeah, I think people...

You just said it, Jamie, and I don't necessarily agree that if he hits, he'll be better than Bryce Young or C.J. Stroud because in six-point-per-pass in touchdown leagues, I think people maybe overlook how important... You've got to be a great passer to be the best quarterback. The year Lamar Jackson finished number one, he threw 35-plus touchdown passes.

So you can't just get there with your legs. I feel like people get a little bit too obsessed with running quarterbacks. But anyway, Dave, go ahead. You don't seem to agree with anything I'm saying. Because 125 passing yards is the same as 50 rushing yards and so if a if a rushing quarterback gets you 50 rushing yards and a touchdown that's the the equivalent of 125 passing yards and a touchdown

and they're still going to be able to put up a couple hundred passing yards on top of that which means the non-running quarterback has to get 300 yards, has to get two or three touchdowns to keep up with those rushing quarterbacks. It's a cheat code. We've talked about it for years and years. And this is the one thing that he can be ready to do when he steps onto the field for the Colts is run an RPO and it's going to be with Jonathan Taylor. That's going to be an amazing combination for Indianapolis. That's going to be something that defenses are going to have to pack a lunch for. He has arguably more talent than the other two guys right now around him.

Yeah. Well, sure. Sure. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? We'll, we'll go on to your losers. Maybe. How is this?

Let's say is a Bryce Young versus Anthony Richardson argument different than a Joe Burrow versus uh Lamar Jackson argument because I would take Burrow and Dynasty in a six point per passing touchdown league and yeah and that would be my case for taking Bryce Young ahead of uh ahead of Anthony Richardson in a six-point prep. Would you have said that, though, Burrow coming off his best season and Lamar Jackson coming off his best season? No. Yeah. No, I wouldn't have.

But now I've seen multiple seasons. True, but you're also you have the ability to look at what Joe Burrow has around him. I mean, that's a big part of it, you know, and that,

that's a big plus for Joe Burrow. You know, it's, it's a luxury that most quarterbacks don't have to have that receiving core. That's an interesting question. Maybe for another show is, I mean,

do you even look at these guys and what they have around them right now and factor that in? Cause you know, it's going to, it might change as soon as tomorrow for these, for as soon as Friday night. But like, I mean, Sure, but Bryce Young's receiving core is terrible.

Yeah, but it's not going to stay that way. It might this year. CJ Strauss might this year. They're going to add guys. Sure, but you would anticipate the Colts adding guys too. It's not like, okay, these two teams are going to add and the Colts don't.

What they're not going to do is add the rushing talent i'm sorry we oh go ahead yeah we have to talk i'm just saying they're young and stroud aren't going to run for even like 600 yards in a season i don't see that happening and that's the floor for anthony richardson and he's already started making progress on on his mechanics. You saw it at his pro day. You saw it at the combine. His footwork's getting a little bit better. That will help his accuracy.

And whatever Shane Steichen learned about developing Jalen Hurts, he can apply to Anthony Richardson. Richardson isn't a dummy. He should be able to get it. And the last piece of the puzzle will be getting an explosive playmaker at receiver. And when they do that the puzzle will be getting an explosive playmaker at receiver. And when they do that, you could really see Anthony Richardson legitimately become one of the top three or four quarterbacks in fantasy. I have a hard time leaving that on the table

in a dynasty rookie only draft. Okay. Let's, uh, before we do losers, I think people really want to hear about Bijan Robinson and Jameer Gibbs and what you think about them. So as of right now, first of all, this idea DeAndre Swift is not going to be on the Lions anymore. Do you guys feel that way, that they will move on from him? If I'm every team that needs a running back, I'm calling the Lions and saying here is a fifth-round pick, a sixth-round pick, a seventh-round pick, something conditional that may turn into something if he has some playing time incentives i mean it just makes no sense that first of all the lions had one of the more puzzling drafts you know to get gibbs at 12 and then campbell um and off the ball linebacker you know they they obviously don't subscribe to a lot of what the positional needs are for for most teams. Um, Oh man. I, I, I think I said this to Dave when we did the,

we, we did these vignettes on, on YouTube, on these players. Um, I, I, as a dynasty manager,

I'm going to go make offers to the Deandre Swift owners right now, or managers right now. Um, because he may end up by the time this weekend is over in a much better situation than he's in right now. And clearly, if you have DeAndre Swift on your dynasty team, you're pretty frustrated. So take advantage of somebody who doesn't think that he's going to get moved.

I hope he gets moved. So it's just strange for what they did to sign David Montgomery and then to draft Gibbs 12th overall, I don't understand it. They're going back in on the Jamal Williams-DeAndre Swift combo from last year, but they're doing it with younger players with a little bit more juice to them. I know you've got a bad running back to have less juice than David Montgomery, but that's what Jamal Williams was.

I don't know if Gibbs has more juice than DeAndre Swift, though. He just has, I think, a better track record of health in the mind of the Lions. And Dan Campbell and the coaching staff there does not obviously value DeAndre Swift. They don't trust him. All right, so for the record, I love the Gibbs pick because I think the lions really need explosiveness on offense. Monroe St. Brown's great,

but he's not that Jameson Williams. I think he's that, but he's suspended and hasn't done much so far. So I don't mind it at all, but I understand it on receiver there. Yeah. But which receiver would they take if they wanted that? Yeah.

I mean, you can make a case for any of those guys to help in a variety of ways. I mean, I know there's some redundancy with Smith and the Jigba and Amaro St. Brown, but if they're as good as one has shown and one could be, you make that work. I mean, if you wanted to get a bigger receiver, Quinn Johnson would have made some sense. You wanted to get a guy that has an opportunity to do a variety of things. Jordan Addison or, say, Flowers would have made some sense. I think that opens up your offense even more so

at one of the two picks. Yeah. I don't know. People really love Gibbs. They really... Yeah, well, he's fun. I've just listened to a lot of people that I respect in their opinions on Gibbs. I think he's going to be a real big difference maker for them.

But okay. Anyway, I want to know where you guys are ranking them as of right now. Is Bijan Robinson a first round pick? Yes. He's close. Ken Walker or Bijan Robinson? Bijan Robinson.

Yeah. Okay. So we know the top four in some order, McCaffrey, Eckler, Barkley, Taylor, who's five.

B. John Robinson. Pollard. The fact that the Cowboys got out of this without a, uh, one of the, the better rookies. I mean,

we'll see, you know, as long as they don't surprise us, but right now, Pollard. Okay. Subject to change, but right now, but okay. That's the, and then six, six'll see, you know, as long as they don't surprise us. But right now, Pollard. Okay, subject to change, but right now, okay, that's, and then 6-6 Bijan for you, Jamie? Yes.

Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! I love, you know, I was looking back at some of the stud rookie running backs who got drafted early, like Zeke, drafted early in fantasy drafts, Zeke, Barkley, guys we expected to be really good, even Najee Harris. They actually all outperformed their ADP. Even when we thought they were going to be really good. Even Najee Harris. They actually all outperformed their ADP.

Even when we thought they were going to be really good, they were even better. So if someone tells you that you're drafting B. John Robinson too early, it's very possible you are drafting him too late. I mean, it wouldn't be a surprise if this guy's number one. He's that good.

Are they going to throw to him? Give me a number. How many catches do you think B. John Robinson's going to have? 42. I would say 35. Okay. Hard to be number one at that in PPR, but we'll see. Okay, Gibbs, Jameer Gibbs.

Okay, I had a Twitter poll. Who's your favorite Lions running back? I put all three of them up there, and Gibbs was winning. I'm assuming you guys are there. Where are you drafting Jameer Gibbs as of now? Sorry, I'll just tell you the results real quick. Jameer Gibbs, 53.5% of the vote line,

which lions running back. You're drafting first. I even put half PPR. Gibbs gets over half the vote and the other two basically split it. Uh, so, uh, give me a round Dave on Jameer Gibbs.

I'm going to say late round six on Jameer Gibbs. Wow. Is PPR. Yeah. Okay Gibbs. Wow. Is PPR? Yeah. Okay. Jamie, how about PPR? Maybe that's round seven. I'm still taking Montgomery first.

I would say probably round seven. And that's if Swift is gone. I'm going to tell you that if Swift is there, he's not playing that much in PPR leagues. I Jameer Gibbs is gone. I'm going to tell you that. I'm assuming that if Swift is there, he's not playing that much. In PPR leagues, Tamir Gibbs is going, I think he's going to go way earlier than that.

I think people are going to look at this almost like Jonathan Taylor and Marlon Mack in that nobody's going to believe in David Montgomery. And everyone's going to be clamoring for Gibbs.

There's just one problem with that. This is yeah. What's the problem? I think Dan Campbell believes in David Montgomery. Maybe. Especially at the goal line. Well, I'm going to bring up the stats on Gibbs at the goal line.

I'll, I'll share it with everybody. Give me 60 seconds. Yeah. And while you do that, I'll remind everyone of what their offensive coordinator said. Ben Johnson, I believe it was him. He said, we need running backs who are going to turn a four yard run into something bigger. Basically, they were disappointed with the meat on the bone basically from last year. I don't know if that was

a just the Jamal Williams thing or a Williams and Swift thing. But Jamie, what do you think? Oh, yeah, there was we just saw a graphic comparing Barry Sanders to Jameer Gibbs. Why did you mention Barry Sanders when you were talking about all those Lions running backs? Well, I mean, it's since Barry Sanders and you're talking about one of the best of all time. I agree with Dave. I think this is going to be another situation where he just doesn't get enough touches. Now, I just spent some time recently, I mentioned this on a previous show, with the guy who trained Jameer Gibbs for the NFL Combine, Tony Villani, who's worked at XP Sports. You've heard me mention him many times over the last several years. He's been training guys for the Combine for 20 years, 20 plus years.

And he said almost exactly what you referenced in terms of Ben Johnson. This is before he was drafted, so no idea where he was going to go. But I said, is he going to be a featured type of running back, or is he more of a specialty back? And he said, he'll start out as a specialty back. But once he hits one of these two home runs, or hits a few home runs, it's hard to keep those guys off the field is what Tony told me. And so is he going to be a 250-plus carry guy?

I don't think so. But I think he could be, you know, a 200, 220 total touch guy and still be pretty special. So I wouldn't shock me if he's better than Montgomery, but I do think that if the blueprint is what we saw a year ago, I don't think David Montgomery soaring 17 touchdowns, but I think 10 is realistic. And I think if he scores 10 touchdowns, if he's healthy in that role, knowing how many one yard touchdowns that they had, that's hard to, that's going to be hard for Gibbs to outscore him, especially if Swift is still there, because that's how you maximize Swift's potential is to use him in the passing game as

well. So, um, I think if they keep Swift, it's hard for Gibbs to hit a ceiling if Montgomery's healthy as well, but you know, in one injury, he could be easily a superstar caliber player. Dave, you got your stat. I got my stats. Uh, last year with Alabama. Okay. Awesome program. He was their lead back. He played 53.5% of the offensive snaps for Alabama. And, uh, when he was in Georgia tech, he transferred to Georgia from Georgia tech to Alabama. When he was at Georgia tech, he was sharing with Jordan Mason. So these are two different coaching staffs that believe that Gibbs is not a full-time guy and maybe it's college. They don't have to do that. They've got so much talent. They don't need to put it all on, on Gibbs plate. Uh, he played in three years of

college football, 113 snaps and 46 carries in the red zone, 20 snaps and six carries inside the five yard line. Once again, two different coaching staffs looking at Jameer gibbs and saying yeah i'm not sure if he's the right guy to play in short yardage situations and the one other thing that i noticed with him when i watched his film it's in the draft profile that i wrote leading up to today is that he's not a physical punishing running back he averaged just 2.2 yards per carry when he was contacted two yards past the line of scrimmage or lower. So behind the line of scrimmage and he's hit, he's not getting anything. Um, a couple of yards past the line of scrimmage, not going to get you much.

He's an explosive play type of wide receiver. We can still sit here and say that he's got an Alvin Camara type of ceiling, but I think he's got a pretty serious floor too. And I think the lions doing understanding what happened with Deandre Swift, I think they've got to try and manage him a little bit. And that's why I don't see him with the same rose colored glasses that a lot of others do. Certainly a lot of our commenters do, uh, as far as being that superstar in Detroit,

I still think Montgomery is going to take a lot of meaningful work away. I do like the Freudian slip though, because we see a receiving core right now that is down an explosive guy for six games and Jamison Williams and Marvin Jones being what he is at this point in his career, that if they do keep Swift for a guy that led Alabama in receptions last year, which Gibbs did with 44, could he be used not exclusively as a wide receiver, but certainly a lot more than maybe their traditional running back? So it could be interesting to see what they do there.

Yeah, so the issue with Gibbs' size, he's 5'9", 199. That's what he weighed out at the combine. And he's pretty similar to what Christian McCaffrey was. McCaffrey was 202. Gibbs is 199. But McCaffrey, two inches taller, 5'11 to 5'9. But that is a comparison. Kamara, McCaffrey are the comps for Jameer Gibbs.

Okay, how about the wide receivers? So Addison, you guys said was your favorite rookie wide receiver. I did a Twitter poll asking. For 2023. For 2023, yeah, sorry. I did a Twitter poll asking the same thing. For 2023, yeah, sorry. I did a Twitter poll asking the same thing, and Addison had 34% of the vote. Jackson Smith and Jigba with Seattle had 29%. Zay Flowers had 23%.

Quentin Johnston had 14%. So if Addison is your favorite, how high up in the rankings and around which other wide receivers are we looking at him, Jamie? Oh, he won't probably crack the top 35. I mean, I almost think I'm going to put him where I had KJ Osborne,

you know, which is low 40s or high 50s, right around 40s. I had Osborne 50th. So it's, I don't think any of these guys, barring something happening, step into a role where they're must-start fantasy receiver. I mean, you know, Smith and Jigba's fighting for targets with two very good receivers. Quinn Johnson, same thing. I think just Addison right now, you know, knowing that Osborne still has to prove himself.

But, you know, the first round pedigree versus where Osborne went is a little bit, you know, in that Osborne still has to prove himself, but you know, the first round pedigree versus where Osborne went is a little bit, you know, in the favor of Addison. So that's why he's my favorite. I got to go do HQ. So I'll be back. Okay. Well, that's really interesting. Do you agree, Dave, not going to be a top 36 receiver? I do. Um, I I'm just looking at some of my low end number three wide receivers in my rankings. Christian Kirk, Mike Evans, Jahan Dotson, Brandon Ayuk. I think he could be close to them projection-wise. I don't think any of these guys are necessarily slam-dunk, 1,000-yard, seven-touchdown wide receivers.

And I kind of feel like that's where Addison falls short. I think he's like 906 on like 60 catches, something like that. And I almost think the story for 2023 for all of these four receivers is which one gets the big opportunity because of an injury to one of their teammates. And if that's the criteria, then you're an a, you're not going to feel really good about drafting any of them, um, before 80th overall. And two, you might kind of point to Zay Flowers and say, okay, he's the receiver playing with, um, an underwhelming young receiver who got hurt last year in Rashad Bateman and with with a veteran plus 30-year-old Odell Beckham who's torn two ACLs. I mean, and I think that's where Flowers' path is

to potentially breaking through that 906 stat line that I laid out for Addison. I'm going to make a strong case here for Addison, and it is so easy. This has to remind Vikings fans of 2020. They lose Stefan Diggs, and 22nd overall, they draft Justin Jefferson. This year, they lose Adam Thielen, and 23rd overall, they draft Jordan Addison.

Was Jefferson, by the way, the fourth wide receiver off the board that year? No, he was the fifth wide receiver. I think you're right. I'm looking at it now. It was Ruggs, Judy, Lamb, Jalen Rager, Justin Jefferson. You've got a guy who is stepping in. I'm sorry, K.J. Osborne.

Addison is, from a college standpoint, on a completely different level. He is stepping into an offense that became extremely pass-heavy last year. They were one of the most pass-heavy teams. Remember, when they drafted Jefferson, they were still in the Mike Zimmer era.

Now they're in the Stefanski era, and they throw... Stefanski? Oh, you mean... Sorry. Not Stefanski. Sorry. Who's their freaking coach?

Kevin O'Connell. O'Connell. They were the third-highest pass rate last year. Yes. It's okay. not not savansky sorry who's their freaking kevin o'connell they're they're they were they had the third highest pass rate last yes it's okay i made a freudian slip maybe that was a freudian slip either way they had the third highest pass rate last year at 64 and i don't see that changing anytime soon they're passing him you're gonna tell me hawkinson is a concern i mean there's validity to that i think hawkinson's a loser here. I think Addison, I think Addison has huge upside, you know,

you don't have to draft them at that upside, but I am making it a point. What is like the one calls I'm going to, I'm going to talk about forever as I was the adjusted Jefferson guy three years ago and everybody made fun of me for it. And then I dropped them in week two for, for that scrub on the can. Peyton Barber.

Peyton Barber. Oh, man. And I can't remember anything tonight. And I think Addison has a similar opportunity here. Of course, I'm not going to say he's going to be Jefferson, but he has a similar opportunity to have that boom year. He does not need an injury to anyone else on his team. Oh, boy.

Well, I think I look, I obviously tend to lean with you on this because I have him as my favorite receiver for 2023. And I think that'll probably say the case, no matter who else gets drafted along the way. But I don't know if that necessarily means that he's about to fall into 125 targets and catch 80 passes and get 1,100 yards. He's also not a perfect prospect.

He had a drops issue. He went to Southern Cal after balling out at Pitt with Kenny Pickett, and his numbers weren't as good. And he was playing with Caleb Williams, who's supposedly better than every quarterback that's in this draft. I'm a little more hesitant than you are to just shove the chips in on Jordan Addison. Well, David.

Particularly since Adam, he's playing with the guy that before today was a slam dunk one-on-one in fantasy PPR. Yeah, no, that's fine. But you're, I'm saying if he's really going to be something like wide receiver 40 and ADP, I will throw all my chips in. If it starts becoming where he's in the top 30 and I have to choose between him and like DK Metcalf or something. And right. You're talking about around eight pick. the top 30 and I have to choose between him and like DK Metcalf or something.

And right. You're talking about a round eight pick. And by the time you get to round eight, you're firing darts on upside anyway. Right. And I think he'd be a terrific pick. I would take him over to Han Dotson, for example. But some of the other names you said, like Mike Evans versus Addison, that's that's tough. That's very tough. OK, so those are the wide receivers.

The other guys are obviously going to be later than that. I'm sorry. I know there are a lot of things that I'm not really covering today, but we just can't. But luckily, it's April, so we have plenty of time to get to that. But I know there are going to be a lot of things I forget. The wide receivers, we've got to get to losers. Maybe this will be a segue into losers.

I need to get your thoughts on the Seattle Seahawks wide receivers and the Chargers wide receivers. And we're going to come back to that after we take a break on fantasy football today. All right, it's Adam and Dave here. Jamie had a hop off to do CBS Sports HQ. He might come back on in a little bit, but obviously it's a busy night for us. I hope you've been enjoying our draft coverage. There's everything on CBSSports.com. Just check it out. Terrific draft coverage for you. Now we got grades out for all the picks

and your teams get grades and all those wonderful things. All right, so why don't we get your losers, Dave? And if that brings us into DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, great. If not, I'll answer about them separately. All right, go for it. I mean, there's three teams.

I mean, four. Well, yeah, there's four teams full of losers among pass catchers. We already talked about how TJ Hawkinson is going to be impacted by Jordan Addison. It takes the ceiling off of him. We talked about Odell Beckham and Rashad Bateman, and obviously the Ravens kind of telling us that they need more juice in their passing game

and that Beckham and Bateman, they can't count on for that juice anymore, so it hurts them. Michael Pittman and, to another degree, Alec Pierce, I think it hurts that they've got a running quarterback now, particularly since there could be some inaccuracy issues. But you think about Richardson and Jonathan Taylor in the red zone, and we already knew that Michael Pittman had a hard time

getting targets in the red zone anyway. Now it's going to be even tougher for him to pick up touchdowns. He's going to need good volume. I'm not sure he's going to get it. And then last but not least, it's all of the Seattle. I'm sorry. Who, who's having trouble getting read?

Michael Pittman. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I was thinking about,

I mean, there were some games where he got a couple, but yeah. Okay. Pittman. Yeah. Pittman to me, Pittman's a loser.

Yeah. Big time. Okay. And then the Se. Pittman to me, Pittman's a loser. Yeah. Big time. Okay. And then the Seahawks wide receivers. I get that like Seattle at 20 had a luxury pick. They didn't necessarily have a need. And that's why they took Smith and Jigba. And I think, I think in dynasty, you'll bet on his talent. And eventually it will play out.

Eventually, his quarterback will not be Geno Smith. Eventually, he will not share the field with Tyler Lockett. Eventually, he might prove to be a better receiver than DK Metcalf. Silly as it sounds as we sit here right now, he's a really good player. He's a really good wide receiver. He's very quick. He's got great routes. He's got really good player. He's a really good wide receiver. He's very quick. He's got great routes. He's got great hands.

He will make his quarterbacks better. It's just a matter of what kind of opportunities will he get in his rookie year? And if Lockett sticks around in his second year, I mean, does he really elevate to being the number one target getter in an offense that Pete Carroll talks about wanting to run the football in all the time? Makes me nervous. Makes me nervous for 2023, maybe less nervous about Dynasty. Yeah, it's weird.

I think it's been now five straight years that the number three receiver, not wide receiver, just number three receiver on the Seahawks has had less than 500 yards. They have been a team with two guys, whether that was, you know, it's been Metcalf for four years. I don't think it was Baldwin the year before that, but it may have been. But it's been the Lockett era, basically. It's just been two guys. And this changes things. I mean, this is really confusing to me,

Dave. I don't know how it's going to play. I'm not afraid to say it. I just don't know how it's going to play out. Obviously lock. It's getting up there in age. So that's a replacement, you know,

down the line, but it's still here. And I don't think it's going to be this year. You know, if they still have to eat $7 million in cap, if they cut them before the season starts this year, you know, if they still have to eat $7 million in cap, if they cut them before the season starts this year, next year, it's the same 7 million that they'll have to eat, but they'll save more against the cap if they cut them before next year and they love him

and he's productive. So I don't see how the Seahawks just wash their hands of Tyler Lockett and insert Jackson Smith and Jigba into that role. We might have to wait. You might have to be very patient with him if you take him in Dynasty, and some people don't want to be that patient. I made the point last week that if you go back and you look at the history, really good wide receivers, Good to great wide receivers.

Jamie's back here, so we'll bring him in. Jamie, we're talking about all the veteran wide receivers who had someone added to their competition, like the Seahawks and the Chargers specifically here. I made the point that great wide receivers, really good wide receivers, you just look at recent history, they're just not really affected by rookie wide receivers

almost no matter how good they are. You got a guy like Tyler Boyd on the other hand, okay, he's affected. But Tee Higgins, like Tee Higgins had a great second season even with Jamar Chase having a massive year. Adam Thielen had a great year with Justin Jefferson setting the rookie record, you know?

We did see at the end of that year Jefferson started to sort of take away from Thielen, but it wasn't all year. But this is just so different. I don't know. This feels so different to me, this Seahawks situation. And the Chargers maybe as well. The Seahawks more so, I guess,

because I feel like we expect Jackson, Smith, and Jigba to have a pretty good impact as a rookie. But I don't know, Jamie, how do you see it with those? Yeah, I, I, I think it's not necessarily that they're, they're impacted to the level of they're not going to be good, but they just all get brought down, you know, so Smith and Jigba ceiling definitely does not get anywhere close to where it could have been. If he ended up, let's say in green Bay, you know,

or a situation where, you know, there's going to be a path to significant targets. Metcalf and Lockett, they lose because we haven't seen, really ever, three receivers of this caliber in Seattle. It was Doug Baldwin and Tyler Lockett, then Lockett and Metcalf. They've been trying to find a third guy. They're bringing Josh Gordon, for example, to try and see if they had something there. It's going to be really interesting to see how it all falls into place.

And that's why I like Jordan Addison the best. I think just his path to targets is so clear and such a chance to be a significant contributor right away. So I wouldn't be surprised if Smith and Jigba makes an impact and really crushes one of those. I mean, again, Tyler Locke's 31 and his best success. If I, if, if, unless I'm completely off base here, it's come when he's been sort of playing a little bit more inside than playing outside. Not that he can't do it, but I think he's more on the outside now, clearly.

So I'm curious to see how it's all going to work. But again, that's why I go back to Jordan Addison. Iison i think just you know you see his opportunities is right in front of him and remember with lockett i think was nine one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve uh fewer than 70 yards in 11 of his last 12 games, something like that, including the postseason. So we don't know if he's getting older and that was a factor or it was just a fluke. Do you guys anticipate moving those guys down? Metcalf, Lockett, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen.

Do you anticipate moving them down in your rankings? Keenan Allen, no. Mike Williams, yes. Who's the biggest loser of those four? Oh. Say the names again. The two Chargers and the two Seahawks. Oh, Mike Williams.

And who is the first to get drafted? Because I think you could argue that Kyle Pitts and Drake London are losers today. You could argue that. You know, they're not going to be pass heavy, but they should be better offensively. Who's the first guy to get drafted? Metcalf, Lockett, Keenan Allen,

Mike Williams, Kyle Pitts, Drake London. Keenan Allen. I don't think his status changes at all. Okay. Do you think that Quentin Johnston just doesn't really have much of an impact, or do you just think Mike Williams is the one who suffers? And you know who another guy, by the way, could suffer is Austin Eckler, because he caught a lot fewer passes when Allen and –

very rarely that Allen and Williams were both healthy, but Eckler's target share went way down. That's just another angle to this, but Jamie, what do you think? If they're more explosive offensively, he had what?

25 rushing touchdowns last two seasons. So, you know, that's not a bad place to be. Yeah. I, to me, he's,

he's, he's a big play threat and he's going to help them on the outside. I just think that Keenan Allen is, is untouchable right now. Like if, if, if you're just looking at how they line up, how they play, you know, what he, what he's meant to them, you know, we, we, we've talked a lot about what DeAndre Hopkins did when he came back from his suspension and that stretch that he had Keenan Allen, when he came back from his suspension and that stretch that he had. Keenan Allen, when he came back from his hamstring injury, was almost as good, if not better, you know, in PPR. He just is so tried and true.

Now, again, he's older and you might have to deal with some injuries. I just think that it feels like when you look at it, and I know they're not the same, but it's almost like a clone of Quinton Johnson and Mike Williams. They're the same type of guy. Allen's been a top 13 PPR per game wide receiver, six straight seasons. Finished per game, top 13, six straight seasons of PPR. That's amazing.

Dave, let's talk about the tight end. I thought there'd be two tight ends. Amazing that Michael Mayer didn't go to the Cowboys. They've got to trade up for him. They have to. He's Jason Witten, Jason Witten, Jason Witten. Yeah, so you're not really a Kincaid guy, I guess. But what do you think of him? I'm not.

And I don't love the fit in Buffalo. I imagine that Stefan Diggs is going to retain his role as the top target getter, big shockeroo there. And then it's going to be somebody different every other week. It's going to be a little bit of that Chiefs offense, where one week it will be Kincaid. And then the next week it's Gabe Davis because he catches a 40-yard bomb. And then James Cook is used a little bit more in the passing game,

and he goes off. And they'll just rotate. Khalil Shakir could be their slot receiver. He has an eight catch 85 yard game, something like that randomly. I think you're going to see a lot more uncertainty and inconsistency among the role players in the Buffalo offense, provided that this is the last move that Buffalo makes on offense. They can go and acquire DeAndre Hopkins and that just blows everything to smithereens.

And Dalton Kincaid, you almost shrug your shoulders and say, why even bother making that pick? The thing that Brandon Bean said to the media is, I think, somewhat telling, and you just sort of interpret it from what the people who cover the team are saying. They did not use a lot of two tight end sets at all last year. And this is going to change that, I think, dramatically, mostly because I don't know how much faith they have in Khalil Shakir.

But what it does is it keeps teams off balance in a big, big way because if Kincaid is anything close to a significant pass catcher for them because now you still have the speed of the two receivers that they play on the outside with Diggs and with Davis. You have now still a valuable commodity to them in Dawson Knox. And now you have a tight end that's a pass catching threat as opposed to a complete tight end. And so I think that it changes the look that Buffalo will throw at people.

Now, again, we'll see how they use both of those guys in terms of how their fantasy value will end up coming across. But this is why I go back to I think Gabe Davis was a winner here. I don't think he's coming off the field now. Had they drafted a Zay Flowers, a Jordan Addison, one of those guys, if it had felt to them that that's something they were looking at, then I think he's clearly a big-time loser. And even Stephon Dgs would be a loser but barring deandre hopkins coming to buffalo if this is what their pass catching group looks like it helps the two top receivers and i think it makes you know kincaid interesting but not somebody that i'm very interested in it just you

know crushes i think what dawson knox might have been like he's now we're talking about this i think he said he had him at 15 it was right on 15 for me. Would have been one of those guys, like if you don't get, you know, you don't go great, you go late, you know, he's got the chance to be still a red zone threat. But I just think that right now

he's going to lose enough targets where he's closer to tight end 20 than he is to tight end 10. All right. Well, listen, you guys, I think that I'm more excited about a lot of these rookies so i'm just gonna throw this out there dalton kincaid is no lower than tight end 10 for me this year

oh wow yeah i mean you're talking no lower than tight end 10 as of right now yeah obviously look it's it's april 28th yeah things can change but you're talking about pat fryer muth greg dulcich okonkwo nojoku first i really love Kincaid and he's older. And that, you know, first I thought, okay, he was doing that at an older age. Maybe that's why he was just more physically gifted and, you know, developed. And that's why he was having such a good year. But also I think that actually might help him make an impact as a rookie. And then you're talking about Dawson Knox, who I just don't think is going to have that big of a role in the passing game. And Kincaid is not a blocker. He can't block.

Everyone knows that. He's not in there to help the run game. He's in there to catch passes. Dawson Knox has been, on a per-game basis in PPR, tight end 10 and tight end 14 each of the last two years. I mean, that is a very low— But he's not coming off the field, though. I think he will come off the field because if they're running one tight end sets, it is not going to be with Dawson Knox. It is going to be with Dawson Kincaid. It is because he blocks. Right. It depends Because if they're running one tight end sets, it is not going to be with Dawson Knox. It is going to be with

Dawson Kincaid. It is because he blocks. Right, it depends on what they want to do. It depends on who they're playing. Yeah, they don't run the ball. Above all, Kincaid's going to be able

to be just another chess piece in that offense. I just think he's going to be, I just think he's going to fit in perfectly with them. And they throw so many touchdowns. I wonder if he said the same thing about Hayden Hurst

when he came into the league too. An older tight end. I didn't say anything about him when he came into the league, honestly. But anyway, I have high hopes because I just think when you look at the guys who are ranked around 10 through 12, they're just whatever. You know, this guy's

got a chance in a great offense. Gabe Davis is a deep guy. This is a guy that could be second in targets. It wouldn't shock me. I want him. I want Dalton Kekin. I want Jordan Addison. What's the difference between him

and his situation this year than Trey McBride in his situation last year? Well, I think... Is that Zachary is much better than Dalton? A lot. Yeah, I think you're going toachert is much better than Doc Knox? A lot. You got...

Yeah, I think you're going to have much better passing numbers from the... Okay, well, a lot. Josh Allen better than Kyler Murray. Going to throw for more yards and more touchdowns. You had the Marquise Brown, DeAndre Hopkins thing. You don't have that with Buffalo. And Zachert.

And Zachert, yeah. So I don't... Yeah, I don't really see a comparison there, I guess. McBride didn't even really fit into what Cliff Kingsbury's offense was. My other point is that me saying he's tight end nine or ten, it's not really like that's such a great player. But I think he has a chance more so than the other guys to... All right, let's make a bet.

I'll take Oconquo. You take Kincaid. Oh, yeah. Let's go. The bet, actually... Barring Ryan Tannehill getting moved and it's just some... Like, if they go Hooker or Will Levis... Absolutely.

I like Oconquo, but yeah, I got this. I'm going to fist bump on it. Cool. All right, we're out of here. $100. $100. Oh, hey.

Absolutely not. All right. I'll do... You sounded really confident, Adam. Absolutely not. All right. You sounded really confident, Adam. I'll do 50 bucks to charity. Works for me. 50 bucks to a charity of our choice. Schaefer, you got to write that down. I'm going to forget it.

I don't think we missed anything too big. If we did, we'll cover it tomorrow or the next day or the day after that. We're podcasting every day forever. So we'll talk to you tomorrow after day two. Thanks to Dave and Jamie and Thomas for staying up late with me. Thanks to all of you watching live on YouTube. That's awesome. Please hit the like button and have a great night, everybody.