Fantasy Football Today - NFL Draft Day Three Recap: Hidden Gems, Rookie RBs Impact on Veterans, Favorite Prospects, & More! (04/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: April 28, 2024Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts NFL draft expert Chris Trapasso joins hosts ...Jamey Eisenberg and Heath Cummings to recap Day 3 of the 2024 NFL Draft. The trio shares their insights on standout picks, including the Chargers' selection of RB Kimani Vidal (1:10) from Troy and the Broncos' pick of WR Troy Franklin from Oregon. They also analyze the Dolphins' move to shake up their running back room by drafting Jaylen Wright (4:05) from Tennessee and its potential impact on De’Von Achane. Plus, they discuss Javon Baker's (9:12) landing with the Patriots. We review day 3 running backs (14:10) like Braelon Allen from Wisconsin going to the Jets and Notre Dame's Audric Estime to the Broncos (19:00) and quarterbacks such as Spencer Rattler from South Carolina to the Saints (25:12) and a detailed exploration of the wide receiver (40:20) class, featuring analysis from Florida State's (50:10) Johnny Wilson. Stay tuned until the end as they delve into the opportunities for sons of (54:10) NFL legends, with Frank Gore Jr. heading to the Bills and Brenden Rice joining the Chargers. SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The NFL draft is over.
Day three is in the books, and we got you covered here on Fantasy Football Today.
I'm Jamie Eisberg.
Matthew Cummings joining us as a special guest.
A very tired, a very busy Chris Trapasso,
breaking down the NFL draft on CBSSports.com with the grades.
Fantastic job as always, Chris,
and we're looking forward to your insight on some of these players that we probably don't know as well as you do for sure
because you've been studying these guys for months and months and months,
and the grades have been fantastic on the site.
So please check them out because Chris has done a fantastic job
throughout all of our draft coverage on CBS.
He's going to have a lot of Dynasty coverage, I'm sure, coming up.
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So we're going to have you covered from a fantasy perspective,
but we're going to talk about some of the picks in rounds four, round five,
round six, and maybe even round seven as we look at what was a busy Saturday afternoon.
So, Chris, I guess I'll ask you this first,
just as somebody who's been studying this.
Is there a rookie that was taken on day three that stands out to you,
skill position-wise, obviously, wide receiver, running back, tight end,
maybe quarterback, Spencer Rattler, for example?
Anybody that stands out with a landing spot that you're just like,
man, I love this player in this spot?
You're talking day three only or just the entire day three only.
I know you're a big Javon Baker guy, for example.
So he goes to the Patriots.
I know you were.
For sure.
Let's see.
I'm trying to look.
You're just.
I'm trying to look.
For example, I know you're a big fan of his.
Yes.
I think him going 181 sixth round.
It seems like he could have been picked earlier to be stocky like he is like
5 8 5 9 220 and was the bell cow with troy and what i like to do with running backs is kind of
categorize them are they slashers are they those zone stretch play runners that just make one cut
put their foot in the ground get up field or are they those multi-cut runners that can kind of be side-to-side wiggle,
make a linebacker miss in space with Vidal?
You get that like both rushing styles.
He blends them together very well.
We know obviously that the Chargers have a pretty big hole
after moving on from Austin Eckler.
So I think he's someone that not a lot of people are going to think about too much,
being that he's from Troy, being that he was a sixth round pick.
But I really like that fit there just because of the opportunity that he has.
And I think he's a runner that can get more than what's blocked for him.
And I think that's, of course, more important than any other trait that you can have at the running back spot.
We'll spend a little bit more time talking about the Chargers backfield.
Heath, I'll ask you the same thing from a fantasy perspective. Was there somebody on day three that ended up in a spot that you're like,
wow, I really got to maybe reevaluate this
or take a look at this player and say,
this guy could be somebody that I'm taking
with a mid to late round pick in fantasy
that can make an impact in 2024 and beyond.
Yeah, it's probably a late round,
not a mid pick, but Troy Franklin.
Before the combine item
is my number four wide receiver.
The combine did not go well for him at all in a variety of ways.
And so I kind of dropped him to seven or eight.
And then the draft didn't go so well for him either.
But if you're going to fall to day three as a wide receiver, being drafted in a place
where Jerry Judy was just traded away and oh yeah, they drafted your college quarterback
in round one.
I think that probably earns him more chances in Denver over the next two years
because Bo Nix is there.
So the Troy Franklin to Denver thing was probably my favorite.
Wide open opportunity for him because we know Cortland Sutton,
at least for this year, should be the number one guy.
We know Sean Payton, for whatever reason, doesn't love Marvin Mims
or at least appears not to love Marvin Mims based on how he played him last year.
They bring in Josh Reynolds.
So there's a chance for Troy Franklin to be an impact player right away.
And the Broncos did trade up into the fourth round to get him.
So we always love those type of situations.
So another guy that we'll spend some time talking on.
So again, we're covering rounds four, five, six, and seven today.
I'm going to ask you guys this question to think about this because Adam typically puts us on the spot. So again, Chris, I'll ask you more from a prospect standpoint and
a destination, a winner and a loser, either from today or from the entire NFL draft. We'll talk
about this later. He's same thing for you from a fantasy perspective. We've talked a lot about
this already, for example, like Kyler Murray is a winner because he gets Marvin Harrison. So there's
some obvious ones, but if there's another one or another situation that ended up today and the same
thing, like a loser, like for me, for example or another situation that ended up today and the same thing,
like a loser,
like for me,
for example,
Jalen,
right.
Going to the dolphins.
Oh,
do I hate that?
Because I was hoping he was going to end up in a spot where he could be
more or get an opportunity to be a little bit of a feature back.
And it doesn't feel like that's going to happen.
Miami.
No,
that was the thing that I wondered.
Like I didn't,
you love it because if Jalen,
right.
Does end up getting the opportunity and
he's in that offense,
I think he could be an absolute star in that offense.
I,
I wondered if it was actually a loser for a Chan,
just like further confirmation that the dolphins view him as a 10 to 12
touch back and not somebody that they can give the ball to 40 or 20 times a
game.
Oh,
it's definitely a loss for a 100%.
You know what I mean?
Especially that, you know, Raheem,ostert coming off a season where he led the NFL
or tied Christian McCaffrey in total touchdowns and led the NFL in rushing touchdowns.
So he's still there.
And now they bring in, you know, an impact rookie, impact type of player at the running back position
who doesn't need a lot of touches to be successful.
Kind of like what Devon HN was last year.
And, you know, it's hard to justify taking Devon HN as a top 10,
uh,
running back top 24 overall pick,
which is what we've seen in the drafts we've done so far.
So,
uh,
what I'm going to do here is,
you know,
you can see all the draft results,
uh,
on our draft tracker on CBS sports.com.
And I highly encourage you to do that because Chris has spent an absolute
amount of time,
uh,
where he said,
he told us before we started,
he's,
he's tired and I get it.
Um, grading all the picks and it's great. He's tired, and I get it.
Grading all the picks, and it's great.
It's a great read because it gives you a quick insight.
You could open up.
If you click on the actual grades, there's the full draft profile there.
It's a great read, a ton of information to give you some updates on some of these players.
So if you like the team, it's a team you're a fan of,
you could read about the player that your team drafted. If you like the player, it's a team you're a fan of. You can read about the player that your team drafted.
If you like the player, you know, you're looking for some insight for some fantasy perspective.
Chris has got you covered.
So check out the grades on CBSSports.com.
And as you can see, if you're watching us on YouTube, that's what it'll look like on our draft tracker.
But I'm going to highlight some of the skill players that were taken in rounds four, five, six, and seven.
We'll start in round four and the first pick of round four.
I'm probably going to butcher some of these names,
so I apologize.
But Jadavion Sanders, the tight end from Texas,
goes to Carolina.
Chris, what do you think about him as a player
and the fit going into Dave Canales' offense?
I think it's a good fit,
and certainly there's targets to go around
even after drafting Xavier Leggett in the first round,
moving up that one spot with the Buffalo Bills
to pick a wide receiver.
But we know they bring in Deontay Johnson.
It's still, like I said, there's so many targets that could go around.
Jadavion Sanders is interesting because he was a big-time recruit.
He was like the number one recruit in the nation at tight end and actually produced
pretty well at Texas, but he never quite met that hype.
I mean, clearly, you know, being that big of a recruit, playing at Texas, winning a
lot of football games, being productive, you would think, oh, he's going to be first, maybe second round pick.
He didn't test very well at the combine.
He ran a lot slower than people expected.
And he kind of has this sleeker frame that you would think he could be maybe like an Isaiah Likely or a Chigakonkwo, but he's really not that sudden or compact after the catch.
Like a lot of times, first contact brings him to
the turf. So I think you see the smoothness at times where he might be able to get open,
maybe underneath or at the intermediate level. But Jatavian Sanders isn't really someone that
I don't think quite met the hype of how big of a recruit he was. And just in terms of his overall
speed to be that fantasy viable tight end even early
in his career.
Keith, is this a tight end too for you in redraft dynasty for, from a rookie perspective?
We know that Ben Sinnott went yesterday to Washington or excuse me, around three, I believe
it was to Washington, but on day two of the NFL draft to the commanders, we clearly know that Brock Bauer is going to be tight end one.
Where does Sanders stack up for you?
Sanders, I have right behind Ben Sinnott.
I had kind of tweeted yesterday that Sinnott was the leader in the clubhouse, and there wasn't anything that happened today that put anybody ahead of him for me.
But Jatavian Sandersers right after him i i think that he's the
easiest guy once you get past bowers that you can show a highlight clip and look at the things he's
gonna be like oh man that that guy's gonna be good but that there's a lot of things that happen
other than the highlight clip and so i'm semi-skeptical of all the tight ends besides
bowers in this class sand Sanders is third for me.
And Theo Johnson goes at pick 107 to the Giants.
We know there's still the potential of Darren Waller retiring, so that's another player to keep an eye on.
From an opportunity standpoint where he could come in and make some plays,
I don't know right away, but certainly down the road,
but there's a potential need for the Giants.
There was a report yesterday that Darren Waller was going to retire.
It seems like that was a little erroneous.
So something to just keep an eye on, as he said at an event,
I believe yesterday, as a matter of fact,
that he is still mulling over the decision.
So something to keep an eye on there in terms of fit,
but that's another pick to look at here.
107, the Giants taking Theo Johnson.
We talked about Troy Franklin going to the Broncos from Oregon,
the wide receiver there.
So another player to look at.
Chris, I want to talk to you about Javon Baker,
because prior to the draft, when we did our wide receiver breakdown,
you were excited about him with his ability to make plays down the field.
I think it was 21.9 yards after the catch that he averaged at UCF.
Is this the type of player that's going to help elevate Drake May
and maybe could be the wide receiver one in this offense?
I don't know right away, but maybe down the road.
Well, yeah, I mean, they picked Jalen Polk in the second round.
He's more of a kind of move him around.
I don't want to say gadget type, but he's better in the slot and he's just kind of the
jack of all trades, master of none.
With Javon Baker, I mean, there weren't a ton outside of the, obviously the premier
guys, there weren't a ton of those true x receivers and that's
just the guys that can play on the perimeter they run a variety of routes a lot of comebacks a lot
of digs a lot of post routes can win with speed route running ability they're going to see more
press um javon baker to me i think is kind of the exact type of wide receiver that will work well
with drake may because we saw even last year with Devontae Walker that he wants to push the football down the field and to average
over 20 yards per catch at UCF without being you know a burner he's a mid four or five guy
kind of indicates that he does feel confident and was very successful winning in those jump
ball situations so I think Devon Baker went a lot later than I thought,
but a former Alabama guy goes to UCF.
I think he has a pretty complete skill set and maybe not instantly,
but I could see by midway point of the season or toward the end of the
season, we're like, all right,
this is the future wide receiver one that the Patriots actually got on the
third day of the draft.
Keith, when you look at this Patriots receiving core,
I know you have some moderate expectations.
At least prior to the draft with Kendrick Bourne coming back from the ACL tear.
He's somebody that you had ranked certainly higher than Dave and I had. And the only reason I know
this is because we did the one mock draft where I'd use your rankings and draft Kendrick Bourne
for you. They have Demario Douglas. They draft poke as Chris alluded to earlier in the NFL draft
and they bring in, you know, Baker with a new quarterback, really a couple quarterbacks as they added another one today,
which we'll talk about.
But how do you view sort of the Patriots pecking order at receiver right now?
Like who's somebody to covet?
Who's somebody that you're looking at maybe late round pick?
Is there anything that excites you about this receiving corner?
I think it's interesting because like Chris is obviously right.
The chances of becoming the number one wide receiver there are higher than most places that a rookie,
especially on day three, could go.
The upside of being the number one wide receiver for the Patriots,
maybe not quite as good,
unless May is enough to change the culture and the offense there.
But I'm probably going to be pretty much like who's going last of Baker,
Demario Douglas, and Polk.
I wouldn't want to make a big bet on any of those guys.
And I think Bourne is probably going to see his 80 to 90 targets as well.
So you're probably looking at two out of the three young guys
that have a chance to have a real role in this offense.
And any of them that are available in the double digit rounds are
probably fine.
They have this thing.
I'll just say on this quickly,
just yeah,
just on the situation in new England with the Patriots,
it kind of reminds me for Drake may of the type of wide receivers that he
had in 2022 at North Carolina,
when he had Josh downs underneath underneath who caught like 100 passes.
That can be your Demario Douglas.
And then Antoine Green, who went in the seventh round last year, was this bigger down-the-field guy.
Wasn't particularly fast, but they used him to just get down the field a lot of vertical route tree stuff.
I kind of feel like not necessarily that the Patriots were trying to totally replicate what he had
when he really burst onto the scene, but I think Drake may, we'll kind of understand that very early on that he has
the underneath slot weapon and then the down the field guy right away that he can kind of grow with
as they're both, or all three of them are still very young players. And I know, you know, people
will look at the Patriots receiving core and probably say they've failed to develop some
young receivers. Recently, Taequann Thornton was a guy that they drafted a couple years ago.
He struggled.
And then we know Demario Douglas.
We kept talking about him a lot last year, and he didn't exactly have consistent performances.
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Mack Jones has been terrible.
So hit the reset button, not just on the offense, but also on your opinion of the Patriots.
And we'll see how things change there when it comes to this offense in 2024.
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All right, so we're back here and we're looking at round four picks of note.
Again, skill players that sort of stand out to us that could be difference makers for fantasy in 2024 and maybe beyond and round four saw a lot of running backs come off the board
starting with jaylen wright at pick number 120 the bucks take bucky irving running back from
oregon at 125 the eagles take will shipley from clemson at 127 the bills take ray davis from
kentucky at 128 the 49ers take Isaac Guerinado.
Am I saying that right?
Guerinado.
Guerinado from Louisville at 129.
And the Jets take the big guy, Braylon Allen, from Wisconsin at 134.
So, Heath, of those guys, we already talked about Jalen Wright
and the potential impact they'll have on Devon Achan
and obviously Raheem Mostert as well.
Which of these other guys is going to impact the player in front of him on the
depth chart that worries you the most?
I think we lost Heath's audio there.
It seems like you did,
but I'm back.
Worries you the most is probably Rashad white.
Yeah.
Just because he was really efficient as a pass catcher and just caught
everything they threw at him last year,
but he's never delivered a good rushing average.
And I don't think a lot of that's necessarily his fault,
but if bucking Irving can show up and just all of a sudden start pumping
out five yards of pop,
then I could see Irving cut into the rushing volume for Rashad white in a,
in a pretty,
like pretty early in the season.
And from a pass-catching perspective as well, Chris, right?
I mean, he's a good pass catcher.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And he's someone, I mean, in the pre-draft show that I was on with you guys
that talked about running backs, like his elusiveness,
even though he did not test very well at all,
I don't want to say all-time bad workout, but just tested.
His testing didn't align with how explosive and how elusive he looks on film.
Like his numbers in terms of just making guys miss are through the roof.
He kind of feels like could be someone in training camp and preseason that he really turns heads by just throwing him a swing pass.
And he makes the veteran corner miss and he turns a swing pass into a seven or eight yard gain.
And then if there is any room between the tackles,
he's small enough and shifty enough.
And again,
was good enough between the tackles at Oregon to kind of make a name for
himself early on.
And then suddenly Rashad white isn't as valuable in fantasy and Bucky
Irving's maybe even eating up some of those second and long and third and
long targets in the past game.
Heath, when you look at this group of guys,
is there somebody that you say,
I want to have this player as a handcuffed,
either to the guy that you're drafting,
so let's say James Cook and Ray Davis,
Braylon Allen, obviously for Brees Hall,
they actually drafted another running back in round six,
I believe it was, when they took Isaiah Davis
from San Diego State, the Jets did,
so they're adding to their backfield.
Sorry, Israel Abanacanda.
But in any event, when you look at these guys that are coming off the board here,
Isaac, say his last name again, Chris.
Garendo.
Garendo.
You know, he could be in the mix for the handcuffed to Christian McCaffrey.
There's somebody that you're going to look at once we get to training camp and say,
I want to take this player because of potential situation X.
So if we've ruled out Jalen Wright and we've ruled out Bucky Irving,
then I think it's probably Garendo, just because we know if you can be that guy that fills in for
a couple of games in San Francisco, they're going to open up five yard holes and you're probably
going to average four and a half yards per carry and score a touchdown. But it's more of a
situational thing. I'm more excited about Wright and Irving than I am the rest of the guys
that we're talking about just as in terms of their skills.
Chris, I know you were, I think, not the biggest Braylon Allen fan,
if I'm not mistaken, right?
I think I had him as like my running back seven or eight.
I like them in the right scheme.
I just think it's weird with, like you mentioned,
they draft another running back.
Izzy Abanacanda, I loved last year.
He didn't really get to play because of injury.
And then obviously Brees Hall.
I wish he would have gone maybe again to the Chargers.
I feel like you brought that one up, Jamie, pre-draft.
That would have been a nicer landing spot for him
where he could have been that unique type
and maybe gotten feature back carries right away.
But it's just such a crowded backfield,
and they're all big bodied running backs. I mean, Brees Hall is certainly the most talented in the whole bunch. But like I mentioned before, Braylon Allen's pass protection could
maybe at least get him onto the field early to make some opportunities happen for himself in
the past game, or just as that kind of effortlessly powerful runner. All right. So we'll see what that
means for Brees Hall. Again,
adding to this backfield,
I'm sure Aaron Rogers likes weapons.
Brees Hall probably does not like competition and we certainly do not like competition for our star running backs right now.
Brees Hall is going to be in the top three of the running back position and a
first round pick in the majority of leagues.
I don't think this will change that very much,
but again,
the Jets adding a running back in round four,
let's go down to some of the picks in round five.
And the first one that stood out to me was another running back. The Denver
Broncos taking Audrick Estime. Am I saying that correct? Um, from Notre Dame, uh, Spencer Rattler
comes off the board in round five, as he goes to the saints, uh, the Ravens take another running
back and Rasheen Ali, uh, Tarone Tracy goes to the giants from Purdue Keelan Robinson. Another
running back from Texas goes to the Jaguars. The Jets take an interesting prick with Jordan Travis, quarterback for Florida State. We know he's
coming back from that devastating injury last season. And again, Isaiah Davis from San Diego
State goes to the Jets. So Chris, in terms of Estime, Broncos have an interesting backfield
right now with Javante Williams, Julio McLaughlin. Right now, Samajay Piran is still on the roster.
Where do you sort of see Estime fitting into denver system and what do you like about the prospect he could be truly
i mean this sounds like it's a low-hanging fruit but i think it's just too easy he could be that
goal line guy because he is built like you would expect an old school power runner to be and with
braylon allen there's effortless power. With Estime, I mean, it's another level. He truly will almost never go down on first contact,
and he will fall forward two and three and four yards.
Not really anyone else on that roster is, I don't think, a stable, short-yardage guy.
I know Piran's a little bigger.
Javante Williams certainly has size as well,
but hasn't quite been the same after that devastating injury that he suffered.
So I could see Estime, who has a bit more quickness than you would think for this wide body kind of
battering ram. I mean, he forced a missed tackle on 31% of his rushes. That was his high watermark.
I think this past season, which is right there with Jalen Wright, who's a totally different
runner, but if you're just looking at it elusiveness wise he actually can make guys miss in the hole he has that 230 pound frame uh certainly very powerful from his lower half all
the way up to his shoulder so i think he could be that guy that kind of vultures some tight uh some
touchdowns just because of his build and how productive he was doing that at notre dame
heath when you look at this backfield it's's just another guy. We know Sean Payton has
used multiple backs throughout his tenure in New Orleans. He did it last year with the Broncos as
well. What's the depth chart going to be in your mind? Is Javante still safe as the lead guy?
Because remember, he inherited Javante Williams. This is a guy that he went out and drafted for
the first time. He brought in McLaughlin last year as well. And we know he was very high on
Samaj J. Pierre, at least going into the season. So is Javante Williams in trouble in your mind with this addition?
Listen, I don't think this was a very good running back class.
That was our speculation before the draft,
and I think most of the actions from the NFL indicate that they agree.
And so a fifth-round pick at the seventh or eighth running back off the board,
I'm not going to take that as a sign that Javante Williams is in trouble.
I think there's kind of two questions that I have because he did bring in Julian
O'Glock last year and he was extremely efficient and actually had some success inside the 10-yard
line. Does he still have any role at all? I do think that Javante Williams is going to be the
lead back, but it's not going to be a lead back role that's valuable if we still want joliel to touch the ball eight to
ten times a game and estimate is going to take short yardage work and touches inside the five
so i think whether it's if it's a two-headed monster and giovante's in the alvin camara role
and estimate is mark ingram then that's perfectly fine if joliel mclaughlin gets involved then we're
in trouble yeah could be tough to see i'm gonna kind
of pair these together because we often pair jaleel mclaughlin and keaton mitchell together
as sort of these explosive type of guys and again the the ravens in the same round round five select
the running back rashid ali from marshall so uh heath i'll start with you just on the same
situation you know derrick henry clear the lead guy i know mitchell is somebody that you talked
about as a sleeper when we did our sleeper show earlier this month.
How do you view this backfield now shaping up with Justice Hill
and Mitchell still there?
You talked about it, how Chris is going to know these guys better than we do,
and we get to a certain level in terms of our position player.
This was one that kind of caught me off guard.
Not a guy that I was expecting to be super excited about
in terms of fantasy football. And so for the time being until they indicate otherwise i'm going to
kind of anticipate that it's henry's the hammer and mitchell's going to be the change of pace guy
and this is not going to have that big of impact but i'm open to chris telling me that he's going
to take keaton mitchell's job no i don't think he will. I mean, I like, again,
I always look at elusiveness numbers just to help me kind of delineate how
good these guys are just making guys miss.
Rashina Lee's missed tackle force rate was only like 23%,
which is pretty low.
But the thing with him,
if you're talking about like that,
they have Derek Henry.
They do want that explosiveness. They certainly have that with keaton mitchell and i assume he'll be 100 healthy coming
off the um acl tear last year but rashina lee is big and when he finds open space he can really go
too so he's not going to be someone that's going to make defenders miss but they usually block it
up pretty well there in baltimore he could be someone that maybe the Ravens kind of view as more of a stable
or sturdier player because he does have a bigger frame.
But as someone that absolutely loved Keaton Mitchell last year,
it was so fun seeing him go undrafted and then playing really well,
averaging over eight yards a carry before the injury.
I still think like you're mentioning that it will be Henry as the hammer
and then Keaton Mitchell as the change of pace guy to just keep defenses on their heels I don't think Ali is that talented of a back
to again take or make more of what's blocked for him could he hit a long run every once in a while
sure but I still think Keaton Mitchell truly is the more talented back just in terms of
being in that niche role opposite Derek Henry Henry. And let's be fair.
He is coming back from an ACL tear.
So who knows when he'll be ready?
They have the luxury of taking their time because of Derrick Henry, but also they have
to start looking to the future because Derrick Henry is 30.
And so if this is somebody that we know running back as, as Heath alluded to, this draft class
was not exactly the sexiest coming into the league, but Kyron Williams was around five
pick.
We know that it doesn't necessarily mean where the draft, it's not the same where the draft
capital spent on this position.
Isn't necessarily going to dictate how a team use them long-term.
If they could play, they'll give them the opportunity for a couple of years.
And if this is a situation where maybe Ali in 2025 could be a playmaker for them, if
he comes out playing well in his rookie campaign.
Let's see, see what's where should
we go to next let's go let's go to the quarterback because uh i'm curious he's take on this from a
dynasty perspective because you don't really love their car we know that right not exactly your
favorite guy accurate so this needs to go out and get spencer rattler quarterback from south carolina
in round five i think he probably fell maybe a round or two uh more than some people expected
is this somebody in dynasty drafts that you'll
be looking at and saying, maybe not 2024, maybe not 2025, but if the Saints do decide to move on
from Derek Carr at some point, that Rattler could be the quarterback of the future in New Orleans.
So I think that Michael Penix is the maybe not 24, maybe not 25 guy from this class.
Maybe not 26, maybe not 27.
Right.
I mean, Spencer Rettler most likely is just the maybe not guy.
But I do think if you're going to – it's kind of like, for example, Troy Franklin,
and it's not as good a spot, and it's around later.
But if you're going to fall further than this, the guy –
I wouldn't mind being behind an aging derrick carr who looked like at times like
he battled to stay healthy last year um and if he got an opportunity in that offense with pretty
decent weapons around him um i i'm thinking in a super flex league i'm probably not like a rookie
only draft i'm probably not taking rattler until round three which is pretty low for a quarterback
so it's low expectations, but it's,
it's not a bad landing spot if you're going to fall this far.
And Chris, you're kind of shaking your head when I said, you know,
round or two farther than some people expected,
where was Rattler for you and just talk about the fit, you know,
going to the saints and what he can maybe accomplish there.
If he ever gets a chance to play.
Yeah, I had him like end of the third, early fourth.
So I think that was spot on or just at least in my estimation.
The one thing I'll say that I think could make this intriguing,
and this is not to suggest that I think Spencer Rattler is going to like beat out Derek Carr week one and play.
But we saw last year and it was great for fantasy, especially if you were if you owned Alvin Kamara
or anyone of the Saints backs, Kendra Miller, that there was that long stretch where Derek Carr was like afraid to throw the ball over like two yards like he just kept checking the ball down over and over and over
Spencer Rattler is the opposite quarterback of that he will literally off his back foot with
a defender in his face flick it 40 yards down the field because he was a big recruit and three years
ago we were like oh he and Sam Howell they're going to be number one number two overall like in the 21 or 22 draft ultimately that never came to fruition but you see the arm talent from him in the SEC
the last two years at South Carolina the offensive line wasn't very great I mean he threw to
like get this past season which was by far the best wide receiver that he had but the arm talent
the aggression as a thrower it could be something where the Saints are,
whether it's, like you said, maybe next year or maybe just at points this year where they're like,
man, it's third and six.
We need not Alex Smith 2.0 here and Derek Carr.
We need someone that's willing to make those throws.
And Spencer Rattler can't really move around very much.
He sometimes makes some bad reads.
But the arm talent and just the style of play that they play.
The quarterback position is drastically different,
which maybe gives Rattler a glimmer of hope to eventually unseat Derek Carr,
especially as he gets older and a lot more costly for the saints.
I think you nailed it Heath in terms of the draft value for fantasy,
you know,
third round super flex type of guy that you could sit on like a Jordan love,
for example,
not the same draft capital NFL wise,
but maybe able to be a player at some point.
And who knows what the saints look like when he does get the chance to see
the field.
I'll stay with the quarterback position in around five jets,
taking a interesting flyer on Jordan,
Travis and Chris,
I'll start with you.
Where would Travis have been for you?
If he was 100% healthy.
And what do you think about his long-term impact?
We know Aaron Rogers in his forts may not be playing past 2024.
Could he eventually take over as a starter there for the Jets?
Well, it's so ironic is that they have Aaron Rodgers coming off an Achilles
and they draft a quarterback that's coming off a late season broken leg.
So it's kind of like not necessarily how I would do it if I was drafting.
To be fair.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's true. You're right. With Travis, to be fair. Yeah, okay, that's true.
You're right.
With Travis, maybe a third or a fourth round pick,
maybe he would have gone a round earlier.
What I like about him and why I think he still got drafted despite the injury
is that he showed improvement as a passer every season in college as he started.
Like three years ago when he was just kind of a spot starter for Florida State,
it was like, all right, he can run around a little, but he's just not a passer.
And then the next year you saw better arm strength, more accuracy,
more anticipation, like he understands that he doesn't have a big arm
and that he needs to lead receivers or throw away from coverage.
And then before the injury late in the season at Florida State,
I thought, hey, if a team picks him in the third or fourth round
and wants him to eventually be the primary backup and be like a Tyrod Taylor-esque stopgap guy or someone that could play three or four games while your starter has an ankle injury, he can be that type of player.
Because he is a pretty good athlete.
Is he going to run away from cornerbacks that run 4-3?
No.
But the improvisation, the spatial awareness that we talked about with Patrick Mahomes
and maybe Jaden Daniels didn't really have that.
You get that with Jordan Travis.
Just doesn't have a big-time arm.
So he's an interesting player to see how he'll translate because a lot of times it felt like,
oh, maybe he's just not quite physically capable enough in the ACC.
But again, he was just really efficient.
Completion percentage, accuracy percentage, all was just really efficient, uh, completion
percentage, accuracy percentage, all of those things as he grew as a quarterback for the Seminoles.
Keith of the two quarterbacks that were taken in this round, Spencer Rattler and Jordan Travis.
Again, you mentioned third round capital and the super flex rookie only draft. Which one of these
guys would you be taking first? Uh, the very slightest of lanes towards Spencer Rattler,
but I will, I will go with Rattler over Travis.
I think that's probably the safe way to go just based on the injury
and who knows what the Jets will look like by the time he's starting.
I mean, close the same thing for the Saints,
but Rattler does seem to have a little bit more upside.
But yes, I think both guys around three range,
depending on how deep your rookie-only draft is for super flex leagues,
not a bad idea to take both these guys.
And if you have IR spots, you could stash Travis probably.
Maybe looking at a redshirt season for his rookie year in the NFL.
We'll get back to some running backs here, and then we'll take a break.
But Tyrone Tracy going to the Giants.
Chris, talk to me about him running back from Purdue.
And we know this is a backfield that doesn't have an entrenched starter,
I think, that is not having to
look over his shoulder they bring in devon singletary to replace saquon barkley could tracy
i know round five pick again you know what this class is the the the number running back he was
taken in this draft but is he somebody that can push devon singletary in your mind based on the
type of prospect that he is i do think so because i think think being a guy who ran in the mid four fours
or I know he ran four four eight he has the juice that Devin Singletary doesn't I think Devin
Singletary is a fine back but that's kind of been the book on him since he was coming out of FAU
that he's just going to be very good laterally but not down the field with Tyrone Tracy you get
that you certainly get receiving capability as a former Iowa wide receiver and then the fact that just even though he's relatively new to the position
the elusiveness in the hole when it's a linebacker waiting for him to the jump cut sideways or to
bounce off a tackler or a spin move in the hole it's almost truly like we always say with wide
receivers that oh they morph into you know
a running back once they get the ball in their hands Tyrone Tracy just gets the hand off and
is suddenly feeling like he's already caught the ball and is just good at making defenders miss
at the line of scrimmage beyond and then at the third level so I think he could be someone
truly because he has enough athletic talent and has shown so much promise starting off playing running back like so late in his collegiate career.
I don't know if he'll necessarily overtake Devin Singletary, but Singletary is not so amazingly talented that he, to me, has a stranglehold on that starting job.
Heath, our new favorite word, and I'll give Ben Gretsch credit for it, the ambiguous backfields. Is this going to be one of
those ambiguous backfields for you if Tracy can work his way up to number two on the depth chart
early in camp, knowing that again, Singletary, while he's led his team in rushing, I believe
Adam Azer has said five years in a row between Buffalo and Houston. Again, not the biggest of
talents, best of talents, I should say, from a fantasy perspective. So is this one of those backfields you'll be looking at?
Yeah, I think that Chris made a good point.
Yes, Tracy can impact Singletary, but I don't think he'll ever make anything ambiguous.
I still think Singletary is going to handle the dirty work, the inside work.
And Tracy, if he does impact singletary which he might is going to be
doing so with those outside carries or with the passing game work so if it might turn into more
of one of those like 1a 1b situations but we're pretty certain about what the two guys roles are
it's a it's a weird combination to have a guy who's an older prospect, I think already 24 years old, but also inexperienced as a running back.
You can see there's more potential because he hasn't played running back
very long, but how much potential is there because he's already 24 years old?
Probably not a guy I'm going to be super high on in terms of the dynasty rankings,
but he could absolutely prevent Devin Singletary from mattering.
Also, though, you could make a case that Singletary from mattering. Also though,
you can make a case that Singletary is a winner with this being the
selection.
It's not like they spent a lot of capital to upgrade over Devin
Singletary.
They brought in somebody that feels like complimentary or backup to
Singletary with Tyron Tracy going pick one 66,
the giants out of Purdue.
One more running back that we'll look at from round five is Keelan
Robinson from Texas. So Heath, we know that the Jaguars have said, or at least we heard a lot of wanting
to take some work off of Travis Etienne. Tank Bigsby's still there. They bring back Dearness
Johnson. Is this the type of player that is going to make you more nervous about Travis Etienne or
just, okay, maybe this is more of an indication of Bigsby struggling in his rookie campaign
and Dearness Johnson just being more of a guy.
Yeah, this type of investment in this specific player makes me think more.
Yet Jacksonville might continue to want to take more off of Travis Etienne's plate, but
they're going to be in competitive games and Etienne's going to be the best guy to give
the ball to.
I think he's a winner and maybe somebody develops to a point
to where they take as much work as Jacksonville would like,
but I think it's really going to be them just kind of gritting their teeth
and giving the ball to ETN more than they want to.
Talk to me about the prospect, Chris,
and I'm looking at our YouTube site right now.
The player comp, the pro comp is Naeem Hines.
I don't know if that was your comp or not.
It wasn't mine.
Is he that type of player?
You know, just somebody that's going to be more of a gadget role type of guy, role player type of guy.
Or is he going to be somebody that could be an impact player for the Jaguars?
I think he's more Heinz.
Like, I don't know if that was Ryan Wilson or Josh Edwards, but that's a really good comparison because this is someone from Alabama where he started at to Texas.
Only 121 carries in his college career, which usually that's great.
But I think there was a reason for that, that he's smaller. And even though he's under six
foot and like around 180, 190 pounds, he's not this super sudden, like four, three guy who's
crazy elusive. It's just, he was blocked for very well and can make a lot of, you know,
huge, uh, rushing lanes and be that capable
swing pass screen guy out of the backfield he's a good talent um and runs a lot harder than you
would expect at that size he's very unique in that he's smaller but he's kind of a power back
so i don't ever see him even approaching i don't even think tank bigsby honestly in this backfield
um it does show that maybe they want in in terms of the pass game, though,
to kind of have another player to take some of those touches away
outside of the pocket for Travis Etienne.
And that's really what they get with Keelan Robinson,
who is very much a project, again, not even having 125 carries
across five years in college.
Different from what they have in their backfield now, again, with ETN, Bigsby, and Dearness
Johnson on the roster.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, I want to jump back into round four and round five quickly on some
of the wide receivers that I skipped over.
I was really looking more at some situations that stood out that could be impact for a
lot of players in fantasy, but I don't want to overlook some of the receivers that we
haven't talked about.
We'll cover round six, a little bit around seven, get some winners and losers,
and also talk about a couple of situations that did not necessarily change
that we thought were going to change in Dallas and San Francisco.
So stay with us after this break.
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and seven as the NFL draft has concluded. And we're talking to Heath Cummings and Trish Trapasso. I'm
Jamie Isberg. Let's go back to round four. I'm just going to say some names. If somebody jumps out to you, stop me, and we'll spend a couple of seconds on it.
Not too much time.
But I want to just cover some of the names that we did not touch on from a skill position standpoint.
So, Devontae Walker from UNC goes to the Ravens.
Eric Alltiden from Iowa goes to the Bengals.
AJ Barner, tight end from Michigan, goes to the Seahawks.
Kate Stover, tight end from Ohio State, goes to the bangles aj barner tight end from michigan goes to the seahawks kate stover tight end from ohio state goes to the texans jared wiley tight end from tcu goes to the chiefs
nobody no that's not travis kelsey aj barner i can i can go back to aj barner that he's someone
i mean you guys can give the like fantasy side of it, but in terms of someone that,
of course we talked about JJ McCarthy, that it was, you know, he wasn't really utilized a lot.
It was the run game and the defense that got Michigan to win that title. When AJ Barner was
given an opportunity and their other tight end Colson Loveland might be a first or a second round
pick next year. Um, AJ Barner made the most it. And you watch him on film, the separation ability
is there. He's got good burst off the line. He's not this big lumbering tight end. He's a good
blocker. So that should help him get on the field relatively early that almost no tight ends are
good blockers anymore. But being in that Michigan system, being a little bit bigger, he does have
the ability to move people. And he made a couple like spectacular grabs at Michigan. So he kind of is that later round tight end that was low volume in college,
just because of the situation he is in that I could see.
I mean, I guess I can't predict that he'll have a great rapport with Geno Smith,
but it wouldn't shock me because he does have the athletic chops and just a very
reliable hand tight end to maybe just outplay his draft
position. Just a lot of mouths to feed in this offense. We saw, you know, Jackson struggle last
year to get the targets that we were hoping for. And the tight end just hasn't been something that
Seattle has done, but again, new offensive coordinator that could change things. But yes,
the prospect, I think an opportunity is there for him to make some plays right away. And then the
last wide receiver that I'll mention, Jacob Counting from Arizona, goes to the 49ers.
I want to mention him quickly that we talked about earlier.
Like, you obviously want these wide receivers, tight ends, running backs to go to good situations.
That's a bummer for me.
Like, they pick Ricky Pearsall.
They don't trade Brandon Ayuk.
They don't trade Debo Samuel.
They have Juwan Jennings back.
And Jacob Cowing, for a lot of people, I didn't quite feel this way,
but I could see glimmers, felt like Jacob Cowing was maybe the tank del
of this class, like similar size, big-time separation ability,
crazy production in college.
And then he lands on one of the most crowded pass catcher groups
in the entire NFL.
Now, that's not to say that I don't think Kyle Shanahan will just never feature him, but it would have been one
thing had he been packed and Ricky Pearsall wasn't a selection in the first round, but for someone
that was just so good at all three levels at Arizona and does have that wiggle that Tank Dell
has, I was like kind of bummed that he ultimately landed in San Francisco just because it's too crowded there. We'll talk about the 49ers in a couple of minutes, but yes,
for this year, it could be tough for him, but there may be a situation based on the contracts
that they have to give out that Pearsall and Counting may be replacing Ayuk and Debo Samuel
at some point. And you said a big word there that matters to the 49ers, separation. Separation
ability is going to be big in that offense because they create as much separation for their receivers as any team in the league.
And a lot of teams have obviously copied that by hiring their offensive coordinators.
So we'll see if that matters for counting down the road.
Round five, again, just stop me if there's anybody that stands out.
So the Colts take Anthony Gold, wide receiver from Oregon State.
Aeneas Smith from Texas A&M goes to the Eagles.
Jamari Thrash from Louisville goes to the Browns. Bub Means, I think that was on Pete Prisco's Better Than team, goes to the Saints.
And I remember Dennis Allen at the owner's meeting saying they were going to add a pass catcher.
Didn't necessarily mean a wide receiver, but they do add a wide receiver from Pitt and Bub Means.
And that's it for rounds four and five. So now we're caught up. Let's get into round six here.
And again, here's some of the players that stood out.
We already talked a little bit about Kamani Vidal,
the running back from Troy going to the Chargers.
So Heath, Chris likes him as a prospect.
When you look at the guys that they have on their depth chart now,
Gus Edwards and J.K. Dobbins,
does Vidal have a chance to maybe overtake them at some point during the season?
Yeah, I think it's, listen, it's a tough ask
if Gus Edwards doesn't lose anything because he's 30 years old and J.K. Dobbins becomes who he was
before the injury again. But the fact that those two things exist, Edwards' age and Dobbins' injury,
really presents a nice opening. And I definitely think that if you're asking me,
if he finds himself in the RB one job job in a,
in a,
in a Harbaugh Greg Roman situation,
can he be successful?
100%.
Yes.
I think like if,
if something happens with Edwards,
if Dobbins doesn't get back to being the guy,
if he gets a four game stretch where he's just the guy,
this rookie,
I think he could be
very special yep just someone to keep an eye on and again probably more popular for dynasty leagues
than he is for redraft leagues but could be a waiver wire addition that we're talking about
during the season before we get into joe milton going to the patriots two other running backs in
this round that stood out to me the texans taking jawar jordan running back from louisville at pick
number 205 and the raiders taking d Dylan Lobb, Lobb or Lobby?
I think it's Lobb.
Lobb running back from New Hampshire at pick number 208.
Both interesting picks, Chris, because you have Joe Mixon, 27 years old.
He was just added via trade from the Bengals.
Could be somebody that has an impact this year, but certainly beyond.
And we know that they've not been afraid as a franchise to not necessarily spend a lot
of capital in the position in the draft and use that particular
player.
When we talk about Damian Pierce out of Florida and then the Raiders,
they move on from Josh Jacobs.
They bring in Alexander Madison.
Heath made a very bold call,
which at first I was like,
I don't think that could happen.
Then as I thought about it,
I'm like,
you're a hundred percent right.
Uh,
Heath,
that Zemir white could be among the league leaders in rush attempts this
season.
And I don't know if this changes that,
but there's another body there.
So, Chris, you give me the perspective on the prospects.
And then Heath, you talk about these two guys as fantasy assets,
Jawar Jordan from Louisville and Dylan Lobb from New Hampshire.
One goes to the Texans, one goes to the Raiders.
So with Jordan, he was kind of in a two-headed backfield with Isaac Arenda,
who went earlier, who was the big-time tester.
Jowar Jordan didn't really do it for me on film.
I think he's pretty straight-lined, runs with a lot of power, almost seeks out power at times.
So I would be really surprised, just based on the talent, if he ever overtakes anyone or starts to really eat into Joe Mixon or anyone else there in Houston.
Dylan Lobb's interesting.
To me, he's the small-school Blake Corum.
If you loved Blake Corum in this class,
he goes earlier to the Rams.
He was the one to target from New Hampshire.
And he had a game.
I don't have the exact stats in front of me.
I was just looking them up.
He had like over 200 yards receiving in a game last year
where they were just, it was kind of like Evan Hull
where they were just throwing him the football over and over.
Pretty elusive, tested pretty well.
Not going to run away from people,
and I don't think Blake Corham is either,
but he's someone that just kind of feels like if this was like prime Tom Brady era
and maybe Tom Brady was maybe part of this pick, being part owner now,
he would have just been a Patriots pick, a Danny Woodhead type.
That's how I really feel about Lobb, but he's a pretty talented runner.
Now, of course, the jump in competition will probably take him some time to acclimate,
but he's not necessarily a running back you want to see in space if you're a bigger linebacker
or a bigger corner because he does play so low to the ground, was very productive, has
good hands.
He could kind of be that, you know, if you're an owner of Zamir White, you'd be kind of
ticked off that he's catching all these passes.
And if you're a Raiders fan, you could be excited about him as just that possession guy out of the back
field. Yeah. It's funny because Jordan gets picked four picks before Lobb, and I'm probably not going
to draft to our Jordan in any dynasty rookie drafts this year. And I might kind of target
Dylan Lobb in round three of rookie drafts.
One of the things I said a lot about Corum,
and I wonder if Chris thinks this is true about Lobb,
I thought he was the type of running back that an NFL coach is going to like more than the fans do
and more than fantasy managers do
because he goes exactly where he's supposed to go
and does the right thing.
This is one of those situations
in las vegas where if you're that kind of guy you can just become the feature back there's nobody
to prevent you from doing that um it's zamir white's job right now and i don't think he's
gonna lose that job in the offseason but if dylan lab comes out and he's like just is accepts the challenge of the increase in competition he could just take
the job he had 68 catches for 699 yards and seven touchdowns last year now of course small school i
get it he's you know not playing against anywhere close to nfl talent but what's what i liked about
him is that at the combine it's pro day it's not like he tested he didn't run 4-8 with a 20-inch
vertical like he has nfl caliber athleticism-8 with a 20-inch vertical like he
has NFL caliber athleticism and like what Heath just said I think they're in Las Vegas they're
not necessarily gonna say hey you know Zemir White is is our godsend we're not gonna let anyone else
eat into his touches I think Dylan Lobb has again that just kind of pesky ability to be a good third
down back and even when he can get outside, make a defender miss or two
and just outplay his draft position.
It's going to be interesting
to see how camp goes for these guys.
But again, three running backs
in round six that stood out.
Kamani Vidal going to the Chargers,
Jawar Jordan going to the Texans
and Dylan Lobb from New Hampshire
going to the Raiders.
I'll run through again,
the round six picks skill position wise.
Again, if anybody stands out,
you know, feel free to stop.
The Titans selecting Jaquan Jackson,
wide receiver from Tulane,
the dolphins take Malik Washington,
wide receiver.
Yeah.
Stop.
Stop.
Stop.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I was,
I'll let you go first.
I'll watch it.
I was just going to say like,
it was funny when you were going through the round four and round five wide
receivers.
It's the first time I realized that I might like the round six wide receivers
more.
Yeah,
no,
I do.
I definitely do.
So this is like,
it sounds bad that I'm going to admit this,
but it,
it definitely happens every year with when you're grading an entire draft
that you put,
you know,
a guy in the sixth round who goes in the second and vice versa.
I had a second round grade on Washington.
I thought 42 and a half inch vertical four or five speed. He was so good at Northwestern,
transfers into the ACC, catches over a hundred passes. The short, but not small kind of Rondell
Moore type frame, even a little stockier than Rondell Moore, allows him to just be so good
in that kind of Debo Samuel role,
not necessarily being as powerful as Samuel, but he's that type of player.
Now, of course, super crowded and there's only one football to go around there
with Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddell and all the pieces that they have.
They want to run the ball too.
But I think out of the slot to just run at a linebacker and explode out of his break
and just catch an anticipatory throw from Tua
Tungabailoa I think Malik Washington can be that guy and could kind of like Dylan Laub in Las Vegas
earn the respect of his coaches early on by making a few plays because he has the athleticism
and we just saw it on film him making something out of nothing so often at Northwestern and then
Virginia and he's a plus athlete all the way across the board.
And Tyree kill is 30 and who knows when he's going to hang it up.
He did talk about at least last year that he was going to play a couple of more seasons,
but we'll see how things go for him.
Still playing at a very high level,
but dolphins doing a,
at least their due diligence to maybe find a wide receiver of the future to
pair with Jalen Waddle.
If in fact,
Tyree kill at some point in the near future decides to hang it
up all right you got Johnny Wilson from Florida State that's the next one like just right after
the Washington pick and I think the first question is can we get Johnny Wilson to agree to play tight
end but even if we can't just another exciting prospect a huge body body, 6'7", 237 at wide receiver,
if that's where he plays.
And like Washington, he lands in a good situation with a good quarterback,
a good offense.
If he gets the opportunity, he'll have success.
But will he get the opportunity, though?
That's the problem.
Yeah, that is the problem.
Both A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith for many years.
What I would say about Wilson is, and this is going to sound silly but there's not and I'm not sure if this has been updated but when I checked a few years ago there had not been any
studies done that that or there have been studies done that say drop rate in college doesn't really
necessarily correlate to the NFL if Johnny Wilson had just had better hands and there were some just
egregious drops on film, like in key moments where there was really no one around him,
I think he probably goes two rounds higher than this because at six, seven, like he said,
almost 240 pounds, you think, oh, he's probably the sluggish and can't move. He actually has
pretty good movement skills. And even despite those drops, I think his drop rate was over 10%
last year at Florida State,
which is very high. He also made a bunch of like ridiculous, like back shoulder body control grabs
where you're like most tight ends would not make that type of catch in traffic or near the sideline.
So if we're looking at him in November, December, if he is maybe transitioning to tight end at that
point, and he's not dropping the ones where he's wide open. He is that kind of special talent that I think was certainly worth the roll of the dice
for the Eagles this late because of his just enormous catch radius. And he could be one of
the more athletic tight ends in the league. If he makes that switch, probably a better move for the
team than it is for fantasy, because again, not just those two receivers, they're Dallas Goddard's
they're going to be hard for him to get the targets that he needs to make a fantasy impact right away
casey washington goes to the falcons from illinois to juan to john palmer from uab goes to the
cardinals uh tanner mclaughlin mclaughlin uh tight end from arizona goes to the bangles
and jordan whittington from texas goes to the Rams. Ryan Flournoy, Flournoy from Southeast Missouri State goes to the Cowboys.
And then Joe Milton, quarterback from Tennessee, goes to the Patriots.
Heath, they drafted Drake May.
You know, I don't know if this will end up being a RG3 Kirk Cousins situation at some point down the road.
But Patriots adding another quarterback.
So I think we'll see uh Milton not play very much
but an interesting prospect because we know he can run a little bit so what do you think about
him as a dynasty flyer in super flex leagues yeah I mean like if they have a fourth down with six
seconds left and they're on their own 20 bring Joe Milton in he can probably get it there um but and
he's the type of guy, because you mentioned it,
he has some athleticism and he can throw the ball a mile
that you would like to get excited about.
But landing in the place that just drafted Drake May
kind of saps all of that.
I don't have any optimism at all now.
Yeah, it's tough to feel excited about it.
But you never know.
Could have a good preseason.
Maybe they make a trade at some point.
Maybe the Falcons want another quarterback,
and they go out and get Joe Milton from the Patriots.
I'll run through the guys in round seven real quick.
We don't need to talk about them.
Just these are the skill players that were taken in round seven.
Brendan Rice, Jerry Rice's son, goes to the Chargers.
Wide receiver from USC.
Jaheim Bell, tight end from Florida State, goes to the Patriots.
Devon Vail.
Am I saying that right, Chris?
I think it's Vailay. Vailay from Utah goes to the Patriots. Devon Vail, am I saying that right, Chris? I think it's Vailay. Vailay
from Utah goes to the Broncos. Taj Washington, another receiver of the Dolphins take from USC,
pick 241. Michael Pratt, quarterback from Tulane, goes to the Packers. Devin Culp,
tight end from Washington, goes to the Buccaneers. And Cornelius Johnson,
wide receiver from Michigan, goes to the Chargers with pick 253. All right, we're going to skip
winners and losers because I want to spend a little bit more time on these two situations, and then Chris needs to get some
sleep. So we're going to wrap this up with these two scenarios here. The first one, and I saw in
the chat, somebody said, are we going to talk about the elephant in the room? Yes, we are.
You have, oh, I guess there's three more things I want to get to. I'll just bring this up real
quick. So Brendan Rice, Jerry Rice's son, gets drafted by the Chargers.
Frank Gore's son, and it feels like Frank Gore was just playing,
but Frank Gore's son goes to a team that he spent some time with,
the Buffalo Bills.
And we also have Terrell Owens' son, Tariq Owens.
Is that right?
Taniq or Tariq?
I'm not sure.
He was not a big-time draft prospect.
Tariq Owens, Missouri State wide receiver.
He goes to the 49ers.
So we have a couple of legacy situations there.
So Threll Owens' son goes to the 49ers.
Frank Gore's son goes to the Buffalo Bills.
Just, you know, Chris, anything on the three children of some pretty prominent players,
Rice's son, Gore's son, Owens' son, going to the teams that they ended up with.
So I think with Brendan Rice, there is a little glimmer of hope that he could be good with Justin Herbert.
Now we'll see how much Greg Roman kind of hampers or kind of, you know, doesn't allow Justin Herbert to kind of accentuate all that arm talent that he has.
Because that's where Brendan Rice wins, like down the football field.
He reminds me so much of Gabe Davis when he was coming out of UCF,
that he's pretty stiff.
He's not going to run intricate routes.
He's not going to have burst off the line to win underneath,
but the buildup speed is there, and he tracks the football very well.
That's what he did at Colorado and certainly this past season
with Caleb Williams.
This may sound hot takey.
I will not be surprised, and this is coming from a Bills guy too.
If Frank Gore is, I'm not going to say he's going to make the team and be better than
Ray Davis, but I think it'll be a closer competition than being a fourth round pick and undrafted
guy normally would be.
That Ray Davis did not really do it for me whatsoever in terms of elusiveness.
He's big, he's stocky, he can catch passes.
But I think Frank Gore gives you more explosiveness.
And the Bills clearly have been looking for that this offseason.
That's, you know, they've mentioned it.
Their coaching staff, Josh Allen, has said, like, we need more explosive plays.
I think you can get that more with Frank Gore Jr. than you can with Ray Davis.
And then Heath, in terms of Owens, I think just a fun story.
You know, see what happens.
Let's just go right there.
49ers add three receivers on draft weekend.
So they draft Ricky Pearsall in the first round.
They draft the kid from Arizona, Jacob Cowan, right?
Yep.
And they end up with Terrell Owens' kid.
So not necessarily somebody who's going to make an impact.
But Brandon, now you're still on the roster, Heath.
We thought that that was going to be something that happened,
that they would trade him or maybe trade Debo Samuel.
So give me your take on the 49ers receiving core now
because I think prior to the draft, we thought, okay, Ayuk's going to stay.
Just, you know, he's stripped of social media of all the 49ers stuff,
but they'll work it out.
He's still there for now.
Again, a trade can still happen.
But if they go to week one, Ayuk's there, Debo's there.
Now Pearsall's there, a huge investment with the first-round pick.
And Chris told you he likes counting.
How are we viewing the top two guys, at least, and factor in George Kittle too?
Because they were being selected as starters.
In the case of Ayuk and Debo, basically round three picks.
I wonder if the 49ers just made a mistake in taking Pearsall before they got one of the trades done, and now they're getting squeezed.
Because it does seem like they really want to trade one of these guys,
and they've not been able to get it done yet,
and they're clearly not going to accept what anybody's offering, at least during draft weekend.
And I'm kind of ranking it this way right now, because it didn't get done during the draft.
If Ayuk and Debo are there, I'm just going to be pretty out on Ricky Pearsall. I don't think he's going, I don't think he's going to matter if I, you Debo and George Kittle and Christian
McCaffrey are all playing football for the 49ers. He might just be kind of a red shirt guy. And then
I, I still don't think they're going to have the money to pay Iuke and he's not going to accept
a discount to stay there. So it might be a one-year thing. We were, we have to wait for Ricky Pearsall,
but I don't think he impacts those guys.
If they all stay.
Let me ask you this.
Heath.
If a lot,
a lot of rookie only drafts happen this week,
this coming week,
because people get excited.
We know that.
Are we going to get to a situation where Pearsall falls and Ayuk gets traded?
Or are we going to get still, okay, Pearsall will get drafted in round one
because of his round one capital.
And then we find out in August the 49ers found magic money
because the salary cap doesn't really matter.
And they give Brandon Ayuk a contract.
Do you see either of those two scenarios playing out?
I think the second's more likely than the first. I don't think Pearsall is going to fall.
Now, I don't think he's probably going to go round one either, at least not in super flex,
maybe in one QB. I think he's probably an early round two pick for as long as Ayuk and Debo were
there. But I've run into more when I've been sharing my projections and dynasty rankings from this class,
more people saying, well, obviously one of Ayuk or Debo is going to be gone than people like
honestly considering the fact that maybe they won't give up one of the best wide receivers
in football for less than I think he's worth. Chris, in terms of Pearsall, do you like the fit
for the 49ers? Did it surprise you that they took him in the first round? How does this all play out
for you? It did surprise me just prospect wise, because you mentioned about space. And I think
the next level to that is the 49ers have always like in the Kyle Shanahan era have prioritized
yards after the catch with, um, you know, whether it's Debo, whether it's George Kittle,
Christian McCaffrey, even Juwan Jennings was so good after the catch with his
contact balance and his power at Tennessee. I think that's why they rolled the dice in the
seventh round and he's like their starting slot receiver now. Ricky Pearsall is more of a,
you know, route salesman who can get open. And that's really where Brandon IU played in that
X role on the outside. He's, you know, certainly better and more explosive, I think, and faster
than Ricky Pearsall, I think,
on the field. But he's not someone that's playing like Debo Samuel or like George Kittle after the
catch. And it felt like, okay, I don't think any other team, I mean, obviously it was the 31st
pick, but it felt like this is a team that wanted to draft Ricky Pearsall to just plug him in as a
polished route runner, to run all the intricate
routes that Brandon Iuke has run the last couple of years as he's kind of grown into one of the
league's best route runners. And they're not going to necessarily ask him to be amazing after the
catch. Had they not picked him, I could have seen him going somewhere in the middle or the late
portions of the second round because he just doesn't really give you that much after the catch.
So it was, I think what Heath first said,
that they wanted to draft Pearsall and then wanted to trade Ayuk,
but then just haven't been able to do it and are getting squeezed.
That, to me, feels like the most likely scenario,
just based on the skill set of Ricky Pearsall
and how similar it is to Brandon Ayuk.
It's going to be interesting to see if they continue to get offers.
But when you get these type of trade rumors, we talked about this,
it usually feels like it happens day one of the draft. continue to get offers but when you get these type of trade rumors we talked about this it
usually feels like it happens day one of the draft aj brown for example you know when you get the
the current draft capital that you can use but san francisco may be in the market for 2025 picks
and beyond if they are still going to move on from brandon ayuki saw the message that was posted
there i don't know if that's the real adam azar it could be a fake adam azar but it says what is
happening i just got here.
So Adam is not working.
It's his wife, his beautiful wife, Allie's birthday today.
So wish her a happy birthday.
That's why Adam took the day off, and we're talking here without him.
Last topic that we'll cover is a big one,
and the Dallas Cowboys do not come away with a running back in the NFL draft.
So there was this story that came out it's kind of been a an ongoing story of ezekiel elliott is going to sign with the cowboys
not official yet but it sounds like that's what's going to happen that's according to todd archer
from espn adam schefter also reporting that um rico dowdle royce freeman deuce vaughn keith
who's your favorite cowboys running back and And we'll put Zeke on the roster
I'm going to put Zeke
On the roster and I'm
Going to say that Zeke is my
Favorite Cowboys running back
They're all in
On Zeke Elliott apparently
And
I wouldn't be surprised if he's
A low end number two running back
I don't Rico Dowell is going to touch the ball and do some things,
but Zeke's going to score probably double-digit touchdowns
and catch 40 or 50 passes and be on the field always
when they need somebody to pass block.
And so I guess he'll be okay.
It's bad for the Cowboys.
It's great for Zeke.
So what round are we targeting Ezekiel Elliott?
Oh, I wouldn't say I'm targeting him ever.
But I would settle for him.
Not in 2024.
Yes.
Round 6-7?
Okay.
It's 2024.
We're talking about Ezekiel Elliott and the Cowboys.
Chris, I don't know if you mocked the Cowboys,
a running back to the Cowboys at any point.
How surprised are you that they did not take a running back at all?
So after the first round Thursday night, they had me do a round two and round three mock,
sent a running back to the Cowboys, I believe in the second round. Then last night after the
third round was done, do a round four mock up until 1230, one o'clock, which is fine. It's,
it's, it's, you know, it's part of the job was like, why have they not picked a running back
yet? Sent them, you know, all those running backs went in the fourth round.
I don't remember who I sent to them, but I know that I sent a running back and I'm thinking
they have to pick one.
We heard Jerry Jones before the draft gush about the university of Texas running back,
Jonathan Brooks, who went like five or six picks in front of them in the second round.
So maybe they did have him as a target.
Didn't want to trade up.
And they did mention Steven Jones said they wanted to rebuild the offensive line.
And they picked one, two, three offensive linemen in this draft.
So, of course, we're not getting 2016 or 17 Zeke here.
But I do think, I'm actually very surprised they didn't pick some running back.
But we could be getting just more holes for the likes of Zeke Elliott and Rico
Dowdle because the offensive line did need to be rebuilt and they added a lot
of depth at that position in this draft.
I would not be surprised.
The one name that I keep coming back to just because of what the backfield
looks like is somebody like Khalil Herbert being a training camp trade. Not that I think he's getting cut, but sixth round pick, uh, uh, I would like that a lot, you know, training camp trade.
Not that I think he's getting cut,
but you know,
sixth round pick seventh round pick some conditional type of,
of,
of compensation,
someone like that.
What are the chances that Jerry Jones has ever actually heard Khalil
Herbert's name?
Does he,
does he know who Khalil Herbert is?
Like you need to have a big name.
We get Dalvin cook in there.
Well,
they can certainly bring back,
you know,
a retread type of guy.
Dalvin cook is still out there. I'm trying to think of the industry agents that make cam acres, I guess it's still in there. Well, they can certainly bring back a retread type of guy. Dalvin Cook is still out there.
I'm trying to think of any other free agents.
Cam Akers, I guess, is still out there.
They could try and get creative.
And Jarek McKinnon, somebody like that.
But I keep going back.
Oh, you know what?
Adam just posted this one in the chat as well,
since apparently he can't work, but he can post.
That Miles Sanders is somebody that they may consider as well. Or Ch well, or to Bob or, you know, who knows what the, uh,
what the Panthers are looking at.
So we're glad that Adam is, uh, contributing to the chat, but not contributing to the show.
Uh, but in any event, that'll do it for us.
We're going to let Chris go because he's killed it this weekend, uh, starting Thursday night
with the NFL draft rounds four or five, six and seven as day three has wrapped up.
And again, a lot, a lot, a lot of fantasy content coming your way.
Starting on Monday, we'll be back with our podcast as we normally do.
We'll have some mock drafts coming up.
Our rankings will be up on the site and we'll have you covered as we start to now really
dial in to the 2024 season with the NFL draft finally completed.
For Chris Trapasso, Heath Cummings, I'm Jamie Isenberg.
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