Fantasy Football Today - Non-PPR Mock Draft Review and Player Debates (03/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 30, 2020

We're showing a little love to non-PPR today as we review our latest mock draft, but first we read an email comparing Alvin Kamara to Austin Ekeler (2:00). And then we debate: Kamara vs. Derrick Henry in non-PPR (5:30) ... A quick look at some news and notes (14:55) with a note about Melvin Gordon's workload, and then we get into the draft. We compare where Michael Thomas was drafted in non-PPR vs. PPR (18:00), and the same for D.J. Moore (20:48). And what other trends did we notice in the two different formats? ... Going through Rounds 1-4 of the draft (28:40). We discuss some controversial picks (T.Y. Hilton over Courtland Sutton? Todd Gurley over Patrick Mahomes? Joe Mixon over Nick Chubb?) and we review our teams and strategies (51:40) to see what worked and what didn't work ... Your emails at [e-mail] and tweet us with #AskFFT 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome back, everybody, to Fantasy Football Today.

Hope you had a great weekend. It is Monday, March 30th. Adam Azer with Dave Richard, Heath Cummings, and Jamie Exotic. Alright. Jamie Exotic. Funny? No? Well, I started

watching Tiger King, so yes. How far did you get? Two episodes. What do you think? Yeah, it's good. It's, you know, it's I listen, like I i said listen to the podcast but you got to get the visuals of these gigantic tigers and lions and stuff that's the visual you mean well so far i mean i know i know what's coming but yeah so far that's uh the visual of all these people is what you need oh joe oh yeah well yeah like If Jamie is Joe Exotic, you're obviously Carol, right?

Oh, gee. You are the Carol of the group. I don't think he killed anybody. Yeah, come on, man. Carol's evil. Carol's evil. They're all evil. They are.

They are all pretty evil. They just exploit, exploit. But I look forward to the next five episodes. I look forward to today's show because we don't give a lot of love to non-PPR. We talk PPR all the time, but the non-PPR mock draft we did was great, and we're going to review, we're going to kind of

compare the differences between PPR and non-PPR. We did one of each last week and just see kind of what some of the trends were. We'll review our teams. We'll try to go over the first five rounds or so of the non PPR draft and have some debates that we had on HQ that were interesting, like Derek Henry versus Alvin Camara. Where should DJ more go?

I want to start with an email email of the day. It is from Matt staring at the same four walls for the ninth day in a row. Yes, we've been there. Hey, Alvin, Simon, Theodore and Dave,

Dave, which, Theodore and Dave. Dave, which one are you? Alvin. Heath tweeted some stats earlier today comparing Austin Eckler and Alvin Kamara over the last three years. It seems to demonstrate how good Eckler is. But what does it say about Kamara?

Kamara's 2017 stats were obviously crazy good. His 2018 had unsustainable touchdowns. Is 2019 what we should expect going forward? Are we blinded by Kamara's first two years, given his outlier performances in two different areas? Well, Heath, you're the one who tweeted it. What do you think?

Yeah, I mean, I think probably, and this won't be surprising that I say this, but it probably makes more sense to just look at the sum total of the three years. Alvin Kamara, over the last three years, has averaged five yards per carry, 6.8 yards per target. I expect him to be right around those numbers. The five yards per carry, very similar to Eckler. He's not been near as good on a per-target basis as Eckler has, and really no one is because Eckler's been one of the most efficient

pass-catching running backs in NFL history. I still think as long as he stays healthy, you should expect Alvin Kamara to deliver first-round value this year. And if the Chargers don't add someone, the same is true for Austin Eckler. But don't you fear Eckler's reception total being hurt by tyra taylor oh i i think it is likely that the total running back targets go down let's see who they add i mean if they add a rookie and justin jackson that i think eckler's share of the team's running back targets will be bigger than it was last year. I don't think they're going to throw the ball to Justin.

I just don't know how. I agree with what you're saying. His target share should be better from that position. But the volume is going to go down because of Tyrod. 92 catches. Everybody who thinks Tyrod's playing even eight games is crazy. 92 catches, 993 yards. It depends on what they get to and he can't play.

Well, I just think like just 92 catches, 993 yards, and eight touchdowns. If you're not Christian McCaffrey, I cannot bet on anyone even coming close to that. I mean, that is like. Heath, you haven't projected for 75 catches? I think 81, I believe. Oh, that's exactly what Alvin Kamara has gotten in each of his first three seasons. 80.

Oh, that's not exactly... 80 for 803. I would probably put him closer to 65. Interesting. And I like Eckler. Don't get me wrong. I think I like him. Because I think his rushing totals will come up,

you know, just based on what he did in those first four games, where he had, you know, three over, what was it, 15 carries? Or 14 carries? I just think the catches will come down by nature. Even if it's Herbert. Herbert's a much more mobile quarterback than Rivers. You know, so if it's the combination of Taylor and Herbert or even Taylor and Love.

You know, I just think the thing that helps Kamara, it's what helped Eckler, it's what helped James White, it's the non-mobile quarterbacks. They just, by nature, are going to dump the ball off more. Yeah, and I just think that we have to be careful with Tyrod and mobile quarterback. He throws the ball to, or has thrown the ball to running backs more than other mobile quarterbacks do.

Not as much as Ripps. He did a ton of it in college as well. But his target rate for running backs his three years in Buffalo was well above league average last year. So it'll fall off from where Rivers was for sure. I don't know that it'll be below, like I still expect it to be above average. This question was also about Alvin Kamara. So Dave, you took Derrick Henry over Kamara

in non PPR I believe they went with back to back picks and then we talked about it on HQ and you were the only one that I mean I thought it was like so close such a toss up I would go with Kamara but you went with Henry six and then George took Kamara seven I think you were the only one that would

take Henry over Kamara but I think we all acknowledge it's a debate worth having so let's have that debate Dave why did you go with Kamara's seven. I think you were the only one that would take Henry over Kamara, but I think we all acknowledge it's a debate worth having. So let's have that debate, Dave. Why'd you go with Kamara over Henry? I went with Henry over Kamara. Sorry, why'd you go with Henry over him? I went with him because I think that there's a better chance that he gets 1,500 total yards and over 10 touchdowns than Kamara does.

And I know Kamara did exactly that. He had monster years his first two years. And last year, we can chalk it up to the leg or ankle injury. He said he was playing at 75%. I wonder if Emmanuel Sanders' arrival hurts him a little bit. I'm curious to see what the draft brings. I know Alvin Kamara is going to get a bunch of work. And Sean Payton is obviously mindful of it.

Did you see the tweets that he sent out on sunday night with uh with these plays he he drew out three plays from his playbook and one of them was specifically designed for camara and he said we've got to give camara his touches so i i think he's got a chance to get pretty damn close to 1500 and 11 touchdowns let's just call it that but i I think Derrick Henry's different, and I know that workload's going to be there for him. I'm not as worried about him breaking down. What I am worried about is the Titans adding another running back in the draft because they are set for it.

They could do it with their first-round pick if they wanted to, and that could absolutely crumble crumble Derek Henry's eye, and it would be the smart thing for that franchise to do. But until they do it, I'm going to be cautiously optimistic about Henry still beating up on these defenses next year. I want to say one thing about Kamara. Well, I want to say a lot of things,

but this is what I'll start with. I think his workload is interesting. Now you talk about 1,500 total yards. Here's total yards in three seasons, 1,554, 1,592. And then last year he played only 14 games. He barely had any touches in one of those games, his first game back from injury. And he still had 1,330. So he's shown in two or three years, he can get over 1,500 yards. But what is his workload going to be like? Because if you rewind one year from today

or just before the draft last year, before the fantasy draft, before the season started, we had this four-game sample size of Alvin Kamara without Mark Ingram. And it was, like, unbelievable. We didn't know what kind of role Latavius Murray was going to have.

And if you recall, the first five games before he left week six with an injury, he was on pace for 323 touches and almost 1,900 total yards. And then he came back and in his last seven games, and I'm not including his first game back

when he had only four carries, he was on pace for only 276 touches down from 323 in his first five games. So I think Kamara really saw an increase in workload from his days with Mark Ingram to his days with Octavius Murray before he started playing with the ankle injury, which was the case the last half of the season. And if he gets that increase in workload, if he gets 323 touches, it might not be as much as Derrick Henry, but it won't be far off.

I mean, maybe it will be. If he gets 323 touches, he's going to challenge to be number one. Exactly. And that, you know, so we have this year of him not having a huge workload, but don't forget, he did get that huge workload before he got hurt.

And the managing, the lack of, or the lesser touches, the on pace for lesser touches once he came back could also be by design of the coaching staff knowing he's not 100% and trying to manage him for the playoffs. It's true. So, Jamie, you, I think, had the easiest time saying Camara over Henry. Without a doubt. Henry is not somebody I'm going to draft. I'm certainly not going to draft him

in the first 10 picks, no matter the format. It's just not something I'm going to do. I fear the workload. And the other thing in regards to Camara's workload, which I think could be something we start to see, Bucky Brooks of the NFL Network tweeted this the other day,

which I kind of agree with, which is sad about the position, is you draft a running back with an early pick. Doesn't have to be a first round pick. You completely run him into the ground his first five years, four years, whatever the case may be, depending on when you have your option, and then you let him walk. And so this could be, Kamara, have your year. Go see if you get your money. We're done with you. We're going to beat you up. And I think we saw it with Henry last year. The franchise tag made a lot of sense for their team

because bring back the same cast of characters, beat him up for another year, and then let him go. The franchise tag is going to continue to get lower for running backs as these contracts come down. But it's the workload for Henry that scares me the most. You know, it's funny because we love workload, and then when we get the workload, we hate workload.

And that's kind of where I am with Eric Henry right now. It's just I think he was used too much for a guy his size. He's a beast. And if he stays healthy for 16 games, Dave's going to be a smart guy for taking him at six, maybe not over Kamara, but certainly, you know, if Kamara does what he's expected to do. But, you know, he could have another fantastic year.

It's a good offensive line. They lost the key piece we'll see how they replace jack conklin um but you know it's uh you know he has talked about the regression for ryan taniel so if that comes down and the offense isn't as efficient and they still continue to uh you know not continue but if they have some negative game scripts as we've talked about you know will derrick henry be as successful if they're chasing 10 points or 14 points? We also stopped to see what they do to address their back foot. As Dave said, if they spend an early round pick, it's going to be bad for Derrick Henry. If it's a late round pick, depending on who that guy is, it could be a little bit frustrating.

But for me, it's just a matter of I'm scared of a guy coming off nearly 400 total touches with the playoff. All right, Heath, I'll give you the last word here, and then we will move on. By the way, I don't know if I clarified this. This is non-PPR. Henry versus Kamara, non-PPR. There's no question in PPR you're taking Kamara. Right, everybody's doing that, but this is non-PPR specifically. So, Heath, you also said Alvin Kamara,

but you thought it was pretty close. This is one where I'm at odds with my own projections, and I don't mind that in uh march or april um but i'll look at it more closely after the draft like i in non-ppr i project derrick henry for more fantasy points i think the important thing to remember and jamie kind of said it if he stays healthy for 16 games dave's gonna feel good about taking him six i don't think the like i wouldn't say this for just about anybody else but the enormous touchdown total that we saw from derrick henry like it's pretty close to in line to what he's

done over his career in terms of touchdowns per touches and i do think that as long as he stays healthy they're going to give him 300 plus touches which means that we should probably expect he's close to leading the nfl in touchdowns And what if he catches 35 passes this year? We haven't seen it from him. But he talked about it. He told us that that's something that he wanted to work on. And maybe that's just the next step that this offense takes. Remember, they've got the same offensive coordinator.

It's basically the same offense, different tackle. We've seen Derrick Henry catch passes before, but I've said it before. If they use him in the passing game, they're matching him up on the outside against cornerbacks and safeties. And he's going to destroy them. They're not going to use him like that. It's a matter of using him. They should, maybe. Maybe.

It's really like doing what they do, but throwing it to him 10 more times. I mean, the screen passes and just the balls in the flat where he just gets out, and their blocking has been exceptional in those plays. They should just do that at least 5 to 10 more times, and that would help his value. For me, again, it's just a matter of the injury risk. Okay.

Time and again. Yeah, Henry has been really good in terms of efficiency. 10.1 yards per catch. You expect that to go down if he has more catches, but that's in his career. 57 catches. 10.1 yards per catch. That's really good. So maybe they can

try to get him more involved there. All right. We're going to get into... I was going to go to Heath's team, but I think we'll save that. We'll definitely have time to talk about Heath's team and non-PPR because it is fascinating. He's got the number one, arguably the number one quarterback, Lamar Jackson,

the number one tight end in Travis Kelsey, and he is starting two running backs from the same team in his backfield. So interesting team there. I want to talk about that. A lot of interesting teams. First, though, you got to join our team there. I want to talk about that. A lot of interesting teams. Uh, first though, you got to join our Facebook group,

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And if you're working from home this week or for the foreseeable weeks and months, you can ask Alexa or your Google Home to play Fantasy Football Today. Should I say play Fantasy Football Today? You can start and stop FFT episodes with your voice. All right, let's do your news and notes here. Bruce Arian said that Tampa Bay is not a fit for Antonio Brown. Dallas signed Greg Zerline.

And James Palmer of NFL Network said quote, the belief is that Melvin Gordon will be Denver's bell cow. Dave, what do you make of that? Makes me think that Melvin Gordon's going to have more touches than Phil Belenzi and the coaching staff found things in Phil Belenzi's game that they didn't like

and it probably came in passing situations. I'd love to know what Jesse Palmer thought about. Me too, but he doesn't work for NFL Network. He covers college football. Melvin Gordon was taken... What about Carson Pullman? Melvin Gordon was taken in the fourth round of this non-PPR 12-team league

in between David Johnson and Le'Veon Bell. So it went David Johnson, Melvin Gordon, Le'Veon Bell. How do we feel about that order? David Johnson should not be ahead of either of those two guys. I think Le'Veon should be ahead of both those guys. I know he agrees with that.

In PPR, yeah. I think non-PPR, I'd rather have Gordon. I would take Bell first in both formats. It's closer in non-PPR. I don't know about the Bell-CalPR. I don't know about the Bell Cow thing. I don't have it projected that way right now. I think I've got Gordon projected for like 260 touches

and Phillip Lindsey for 150. So I'm too low on Melvin Gordon if he's going to be a Bell Cow. Wow, 410 carries between the two of them. Touches. If Melvin Gordon is going to be a bell cow, then why wouldn't he be a second round pick? It's hard to believe it with Phillip Lindsay there. Obviously, they don't love Phillip Lindsay,

but they're still going to find ways to use him. I don't think they're going to phase him out. And they'd be dumb as hell to trade him. Not that anybody would give anything for him, but his contract is so cheap. His contract is so cheap. And he would be great as hell to trade him. Not that anybody would give anything for him. But his contract is so cheap. His contract is so cheap. And he would be great depth at the very least.

But why wouldn't a team want to trade for him with his contract so cheap? Because you'd have to eventually repay him. You'd rather just spend a draft pick on one of the seven or eight very nice running backs in this draft class. I don't know. I'd rather maybe take Lindsey for a year and just see what you could do. Would you give up a third round pick for him? If I was a running back needy team? Absolutely. Really? Why wouldn't you just draft someone in the third round?

You got him under control for four to five years? We don't know what running backs are coming off the board by then. There'll be some in the third round. If the top six guys, seven guys are gone, I'd much rather have Lindsey for a year. And now that I'm thinking about this, maybe I have to double check it, but what if Royce Freeman's better in pass protection

and the coaching staff is more comfortable putting him in that role? Maybe they send out some feelers for Lindsey if there's a running back run through the second round. Maybe there's a chance he does get moved. We'll see what happens. Philadelphia GM Howie Roseman said that J.J. Ortega-Whiteside needs to take a big jump this season, but he also said Ortega-Whiteside was playing with a lower body injury in 2019.

Detroit signed Geronimo Allison to a one-year deal. Kansas City signed Demarcus Robinson to a one-year deal. The Redskins signed cornerback Ronald Darby. Not a lot of news and notes. Okay, let's rock and roll. So I wanted to compare non-PPR versus PPR. They were the same format. 12 teams, quarterback, two running backs,

three wide receivers, a tight end, flex. Three wide receivers and a flex. Kicker and DST. And in just scoring purposes, like in non-PPR, if you look at the top players from last year that were not quarterbacks, 12 of the top 14 were running backs. So only two were wide receivers. Todd Gurley was RB12. And Gurley didn't have a great year.

And he still was better than all but two wide receivers in non-PPR last year. So big difference. And we'll see how that sort of played out. However, number 15 through 24 in the rankings, I mentioned 12 of the top four team were running backs. 15 through 24, eight of those 10 were wide receivers. The wide receivers started producing after the top 12 running backs, basically. So that brings us to Michael Thomas.

He was taken fifth overall in non-PPR. He was taken third overall in PPR. Heath, Michael Thomas, fifth overall in non-PPR. What do you think? I think that's fine. Like, I am one of the people who have said I could see taking him as high as second in ppr and that's harder to do with emmanuel sanders there i mean i don't think he's

going to cut into thomas's workload big but he could a little bit and thomas does have that weird thing where he's never scored double digit touchdowns i think fifth is fine i could understand if somebody wanted to take a running back instead there as well. Would anybody consider going earlier? It was McCaffrey, Barkley, Zeke, Cook, and then Michael Thomas, followed by Henry and Kamara. Can you make an argument for Thomas ahead

of any of those top four running backs? Non-PPR? I guess if you're worried about Zeke with Frederico. Yeah, that's it. You gotta go with those running backs. I guess if you're worried about Zeke with Frederico. Yeah, that's it. I mean, it's not a... You got to go with those running backs. Well, I mean, he is, even in this format, I think, safer than any of those guys after McCaffrey.

He's safer than Zeke? Zeke's the safest player? I think that you could definitely have concern about Zeke without his starting center and with his workload over the last couple of years. He managed to sign without his starting center and with his workload over the last couple years. He managed to sign without his starting center two years ago. Right. He was great that year. I think that was the year he only played

10 games. Either way, he was great. Alright. More non-PPR. Derek Henry, we already did that. Let's talk DJ Moore. DJ Moore went 24th overall in non-PPR and 13th overall in PPR. Jamie, where would you take DJ Moore?

In non-PPR? Either one. What do you think? Should there be that big of a gap? I think in PPR he's closer to 24. I wondered, after looking at the results, if he would have fallen a little bit further. I don't think he's going to have a third round,

but the fact that Ben Gretsch was picking at the results, if he would have fallen a little bit further, I don't think he's going to have a third round, but the fact that Ben Gretsch was picking at the turn, he had the first overall pick, and then the 2-3 turn, we know how much he loves DJ Moore. So you can certainly have an argument and a conversation about Moore versus Cooper, Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, and Juju Smith-Schuster, the three receivers who went after him. So I think that's kind of where it comes in. I think he loses in non-PPR more so than PPR

because you just have to wonder about the touchdown. So he could still be, I don't know what you have him projected for, Heath, but he could still be 85 catches and 1,100 yards, 1,200 yards in this offense. But I don't know if he's going to score 10 touchdowns. I'm hoping your projections are higher than that. I would want more than 85 catches from a second round pick.

That's what I'm saying. I'm sorry. I would say that's probably the floor. I've got about 90 and 1250. And how many scores? Six. And that makes him I've got him at 90 and 1250 and how many scores? 6 and that makes him the number 9

wide receiver in non-PPR and I've got him right around the start of the third round like maybe 3 or 4 picks after where Ben took him in non-PPR? ok so that's DJ Moore how many running backs went in the first 5 rounds?

28 in non-PPR, 24 in PPR. How many wide receivers went in the first five rounds? 26 in non-PPR, 30 in PPR. All right, makes sense. A little more wide receiver heavy. What I thought was really interesting, remember this is a three receiver league. These are both three-receiver leagues with a flex. But in non-PPR, there were maybe three or four teams that would be starting a wide receiver at flex, which did not surprise me. Maybe it felt a little high, but there aren't that many good running backs to go around, right? Three or four teams that would be starting a wide receiver at flex, a fourth wide receiver in their lineup.

I figured in PPR it would be starting a wide receiver at flex a fourth wide receiver in their lineup i figured in ppr would be mostly wide receivers but actually they're really only a few teams in ppr that were definitely starting a wide receiver at flex um you know so i don't i don't know what that means i guess that means that you got 12 teams. We're talking about 36 wide receivers are definitely starting. And then, you know, the 40th best wide receivers, maybe not somebody you want as your flex. Maybe that's just somebody you want on your bench to see what happens. But I thought that was kind of interesting.

Dave, not a lot of teams in the PPR draft. We're going to be starting wide receivers at flex. Most of them are set to start running backs at flex. Well, not PPR. i think that's going to be the case quite a bit yeah yeah but in ppr i'm saying that i was surprised at how many uh running backs were set as flex yeah it's surprising i think it's easier to find a flex

in in ppr because of all the catches and we know that there's going to be more running backs who catch passes that'll gain value. So the talent pool is deeper. And you could say the same thing, a wide receiver. Talent pool is going to be even deeper than it already is in PPR because you've got so many extra receivers who might only be good for 700 yards and five touchdowns, but they might catch 60 passes along the way. And those guys will be at the very least good bench receivers and at most decent flexes from week to week. Guys that can get you double-digit PPR points. So I guess that is surprising that there's more running back flexes than not, but the town pool is just deeper all the way around.

I'm curious how many teams, there's probably zero, how many teams have a tight end starting in their flex? I don't think any. I kind of went through all the rosters and looked at who was drafted to be the flex, but that doesn't necessarily mean you'd be starting that person and then who would have a genuine decision to make. I don't think there are any teams that are going to be starting tight ends at flex, at least not in week one.

We're not playing this out but no i mean it's mostly running backs i think that might just tell you sort of where wide receiver dries up and i think i really don't think it's that surprising when you're starting 36 wide receivers and 24 running backs like it would be very surprising if it was two and2, but when it's 3-2, I don't think it's that surprising at all. Right, so what does that mean? That means that the 30th best running back is probably better than the 40th best wide receiver? Or am I going too deep? I would say 30th best running back

is better than the 42nd best wide receiver. Okay. Which makes perfect sense. Quarterback wasn't really drafted differently. Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes were round three picks in both formats. Dak Prescott in PPR was the next one off the board. That was round six in non-PPR.

Russell Wilson in round seven was the next one off the board. Jamie, certainly in a non-PPR... Well, this is how I feel anyway. I think it's pretty obvious, but not everybody agrees. I think in a non-PPR league and a six-point-per-passing touchdown non-PPR league, the quarterbacks are more valuable because they just score a bigger chunk of the overall points. They obviously don't catch passes, so I feel like they lose in PPR.

Do you agree with that? And were you surprised that more quarterbacks didn't go earlier in the non-PPR format? I always hate talking about quarterbacks in our drafts because they're never relative to what most leagues do. So you're right. Quarterbacks are more valuable in non-PPR leagues than PPR because when you start weighing the catches for other positions, it's going to change things a little bit in how people draft.

But I think when you look at our drafts, it's always going to be skewed a little bit. So the fact that there's not much difference I don't think really is telling to what most people are going to do. Like I think PPR drafts, you're still going to get quarterbacks going the first round, at least the first two. And non-PPR drafts, it's going to be the same thing. The next draft we do that we're going to do this week, the Superflex draft, will be a little bit more telling or a little bit more relative to what most leagues look like. And tight end was, I think, also drafted pretty similarly. In non-PPR, you had Kelsey in round one.

You had Kittle in round two. In PPR, Kittle and Kelsey actually went later. You know what? Let's talk about that real quick. Kelsey went ninth and Kittle 18th in non-PPR. Kelsey went 17th and Kittle 25th in PPR. You make anything of that

or is that just weird? Probably has something to do with me having the ninth pick as far as Kelsey going ninth. And I think, like, I thought in the PPR draft, man, Kelsey, I remember because I'm pretty sure

did you take him, Jamie, in the PPR draft? I did. Yeah. And that was just stealing. There was no reason for him to be available there. And it's funny because I did this, like I said, purposely. I don't think we spoke a lot about this draft. Maybe we did.

I don't remember because between this and HQ. I took DeAndre Hopkins in the first round just to do it. And then I took Kelsey in the second round. That was the PPR draft. Given the options again, I would have just flipped it. Yeah, Kelsey 17th was really good. Kittle 25th

in PPR, 18th in PPR. Sorry, Kittle 18th in non-PPR, 25th in PPR. And then after that, it was pretty much the same. Zach Ertz went 46th in both drafts. Mark Andrews went in round 5. Hunter Henry and Darren Waller went in PPR. And then after that, it was pretty much the same. Zach Ertz went 46th in both drafts. Mark Andrews went around five Hunter Henry and Darren Waller went in round six. So, uh, let's talk about, um, our teams in the first five rounds of the draft here. And why don't we go, why don't we go round by round? All right, here we go. The non PPR mock draft looked a little

something like this. Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Ezekiel Elliott, Dalvin Cook, Michael Thomas, Derek Henry, Alvin Kamara, seven. Devante Adams, eight. Travis Kelsey, nine to Heath. Tyree Kill, 10. Julio Jones, 11. Aaron Jones, 12 to Shraggy B to finish out round one. McCaffrey, Barkley, Zeke, Cook, Michael Thomas, Henry, Kamara, Devante Adams, Kelsey, Tyreek Hill, Julio Jones, Aaron Jones.

Jamie, anything stand out in round one? I mean, no. Hopkins obviously is going to surprise some people. Let's see. Where did he go? He went two picks later to you. Maybe Nick Chubb too. We got a lot of questions about that. Oh, right. He He went two picks later to you. And maybe Nick Chubb, too. We've got a lot of questions about that.

Oh, right. He went a few picks later. How about Aaron Jones? Dave, how do you feel about Aaron Jones' 12th overall? I'm liking him more and more. I spent the weekend looking at the Packers, and I love realizing that he was their goal linebacker on top of everything else.

He had 285 touches, managed to survive the season, had 49 catches, so he didn't qualify for Adam Azer's 50 reception running back list. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. I know, but he's fantastic, man. He's very good. I think he's worthy of a pick right around there.

I think there were too many receivers taken in the first round. I think in non-PPR, you've got to go with running backs. There were 11 receivers last year. Oh, no, that was in... Was that in non-PPR that averaged double-digit fantasy points per game? And there were 19 running backs? Same thing? Pretty sure that's in non-PPR.

Okay. same thing pretty sure that's in non-ppr okay so there were there are more running backs that can get you big fantasy points in non versus ppr so i think a smart fantasy manager who's drafting in round one should target those running backs and then look for a receiver in round two but what's the difference at that point in the draft at what point in the draft late? Yeah. Because there's going to be enough running backs to go around, and there will be people in your league that will take a wide receiver somewhere between 5 and 11 or 5 and 10. Quarterback, we don't draft them early. Other people will.

I want to take advantage of the running backs. I'd rather get one of the stud running backs than one of the stud wide receivers in non-PPR, just based on the fact that they tend to score more points in non-PPR. Okay, but I think what Jamie was kind of saying is, if you look at number 10 overall, I took Tyreek Hill. And the reason I said that was the third receiver off the board. There were four wide receivers in round one.

Jamie had the 11th pick. He actually went receiver, receiver, Julio and Hopkins. We'll see how that worked out. I'm looking at the board there, and the top six running backs are off the board, the big four plus Derrick Henry and Kamara. And I actually felt like if I was going to go receiver, running back, or running back receiver with my first two picks,

I felt like the tier was going to dry up earlier at wide receiver. I was looking at Tyreek Hill, Julio Jones, and Hopkins, and Goblin maybe. As opposed to, there were a lot of running backs. There was Aaron Jones, there was Mixon, there was Miles Sanders, there was Nick Chubb. I felt like I needed to actually take a wide receiver first because I like Tyreek Hill. He was number one in this format two years ago.

So that's why I went wide receiver first, because I like Tyreek Hill. He was number one in this format two years ago. So that's why I went wide receiver first because I knew I was going to take a running back in round two and I felt like Tyreek Hill probably wasn't going to be there with my pick in round two. And that makes sense if you have to have Tyreek Hill or if you feel that way about Julio

or Devante Adams or Kelsey. Well, Adams is off the board. Adams is not making it that far. Yeah, I would have taken him, but I actually think I do really, in this format, non-PPR, really do prefer Tyreek Hill to Julio Jones and DeAndre Hopkins.

Heath, how do you feel about that? I definitely prefer Tyreek Hill to DeAndre Hopkins. I don't feel quite as good about preferring him to Julio Jones just because Julio's been almost as good on a per-target basis as Tyreek. They're both elite in that regard. And the Falcons, one of the reasons I like Calvin Ridley as a top-12 wide receiver is they've replaced Austin Hooper and Mohamed Sanu with Hayden Hurst.

Yeah, but you know you're getting probably four more touchdowns from Tyreek Hill, right? So that's 240 yards that Julio Jones has to make up. But Julio's pretty much done that most years. Yeah. He's probably going to be a 1,500. We're talking about 1,500 yards with the running backs. That's probably what Julio's going to do.

He's 31. Hill's like squarely in his prime. They went back to back, so I just... I've got them back to back. Okay, yeah. Whatever. Splitting hairs. Hey, you know what?

Let's bring on a special guest. He's on mute right now. He's listening to the show. He sounds like crap because he's wearing ear pods or whatever the hell they're called. Air pods? Ear buds? Ear buds? Ear buds. No.

Ben, what are those things in your ears? What are they called? They're air pods. Air pods. Thank you. You sound like you're on the moon. Yeah, they're terrible for these purposes. You had the 12th pick and obviously the 13th pick.

You took Aaron Jones and Joe Mixon. You left Miles Sanders and Nick Chubb and Josh Jacobs and Austin Eckler, Kenny and Drake. You left them out. You took Aaron Jones and Joe Mixon. Tell me why you took those two running backs with picks 12 and 13. Yeah, I was hoping Tyreek Hill would fall and was frustrated you took him there

because I think he's the third best receiver in non-PPR. But when those two running backs were there, to me, I like Mixon just as much as Jones. And I think Jones has the top five upside that Mixon has in non-PPR. In PPR, it's a lot different. But I see Mixon and Jones both having the 12-plus touchdown upside that I don't think the other running back that you mentioned have as much. Guys, what do you think?

I can't get over how many bad games Aaron Jones had last year. We're talking like three fantasy points. One, two, three, four, five times he had three. No, six times. No, five times. He had three or fewer fantasy points in non-PPR, which is amazing considering he was the number three running back in this format. Also, his catches were not as good when Devontae Adams was playing,

so keep that in mind. And then, you know, I know Mixon, like Heath would not have taken Mixon there, but passing up Chubb. I would have. Yeah, all right. We'll talk about it, guys. The running back order there of Aaron Jones and Joe Mixon going ahead of Nick Chubb and Miles Sanders.

So with Mixon in the second half of last year, he averaged just over 15 non-PPR fantasy points per game. The Bengals figured out exactly how to use him. He's a good patient runner. Their offensive line did a better job of opening up lanes for him. He was great. And the offense stands to get considerably better this offseason. So I love Mixon. I think he's first round worthy. And if you get him in round two, you're stealing for sure. The one guy that we could debate about with Aaron Jones is Nick Chubb, because we know that Chubb is certainly a super talented back. We believe that the Browns are going to use him quite a bit.

That would make perfect sense for them to do. It's just a matter of how often he'll have enough touches to be this amazing superstar that we've built him up to be when he's going to share with Kareem Hunt and the offense is still going to throw the ball and they might have to throw the ball a little bit more than we want to give them credit for because their defense might not be so good. So I'm, I'm, I'm ranking those three, those four, let's throw Sanders in there too. For right now in non PPR, it's Mixonon, Jones, Chubb, Sanders. And I would even consider Josh Jacobs out of Sanders at this point. Interesting. All right, Heath.

Yeah, Sanders isn't really in this equation for me. You said I wouldn't take Mixon here, but I would take him over Sanders. I think I'm fine with Jones there. That's really right about where I've got him in non-PPR. I had Chubb as the next available at back. I was thrilled that he fell to me in round two. And even in non-PPR, I think Austin Eckler and Kenyon Drake ought to be considered not too far from here as well. Jamie, your rankings of those four?

Jones, Mixon, Sanders, Chubb? Mixon, Jones, Chubb? Mixon, Jones, Chubb, Sanders. All right. Let's move on. Let's talk about round two, guys. Joe Mixon, first pick. DeAndre Hopkins to Jamie. I took Miles Sanders. Heath took Nick Chubb. Chris Godwin, George Kittle. Dave took Josh Jacobs.

Mike Evans. Let's talk about these two picks. Austin Eckler and Kenyon Drake they go 9th and 10th in round 2 Kenny Galladay and DJ Moore so yeah we got Eckler and Drake I mean I think

in PPR we'd love to get them late in round 2 but how about in non PPR Jamie were these good picks yeah I like Drake better than Chubb, even in this format. I think this is another steal for him. Not as big as the one in round three.

Jamie's talking about Kenny and Drake went in round three in our PPR draft. Which is preposterous. Which was weird. Which was to me, which is why I have the best team. Yeah, so he's 22nd overall. I would take Drake over Chubb and Jacobs for sure. And Sanders.

And Sanders, yeah. And Eckler. Dave, Eckler in round two, non-PPR? This is where he belongs. Maybe a little bit higher than 21st overall. 21st overall is a pretty good bargain for Eckler. I'm starting to get the the feeling that he's going to be their bell cow and that the chargers just look at their their running back

depth at this point they say you know what this guy's good we've had him for a few years we just paid him that if they didn't like him they wanted to pay them they didn't even have to they could have just let him play on the restricted tag this year so i i think the signs point to him having a pretty decent workload after all. You just got to hope that those catches are there, and we've already talked about that. Round two is great for Eckler. In both formats, for sure,

you can make the case in round one in PPR. 21st overall seems like a little bit of a bargain. Heath, Kenny Galladay over DJ Moore, and Amari Cooper, and Adam Thielen, and Juju Smith-Schuster, all of them went in round three. Your thoughts on Galladay 23rd overall? I'd rather have more than Galladay, even in this format, but this is the format

where I really like Galladay as a borderline top 12 wide receiver. It's not, his lack of targets and catches don't hurt him very much. I do expect he's going to be a pretty decent touchdown guy and an awesome guy on a per-catch basis. I think this is a fine spot for him in non-PPR. You know where he finished last year in non-PPR?

Third! Wide receiver three in non-PPR. Number nine in PPR. 65 catches. Very, very low amount of catches for a top five or probably even top 10 wide receiver. With Matthew Stafford, he was on pace for 70 catches, 1,280 yards and 14 touchdowns, but only 124 targets.

Yeah, I mean, he finished first in receiving touchdowns. I think it was sixth in receiving yards and 12th in targets. It's gross how far he was in targets. I'll tell you right now. But he is amazing. 25th in targets. He was 25th in targets with 116th. Seventh in receiving yards.

But he's very good. First in receiving touchdowns. His yards per catch is outstanding. I think it's important because people can take that a little too far i think like he is very good i don't really project anybody for better than 16 yards per reception he was at 15.2 in 2018 his first year with 100 targets he was at 18.3 last year so that's going to regress and he had eight touchdowns and 160 career targets before last year and then scored 11 on 116.

So he needs more targets to come anywhere close to what he did last year. Do you think he can get him? 130. He had 116 last year. No. I don't. They brought back Amendola. They've got Marvin Jones.

They just signed Geronimo Allison TJ Hawkinson's role could grow I've got him projected for 119 which is what he had in 2018 for his career we're talking at 16.7 yards per catch for Kenny Galladay okay I mean

why not just look at Kenny Galladay and say he's gotten better every year he had a third-year breakout. Why wouldn't he just be a superstar? He could be a superstar, or maybe not quite a superstar, but a star at least. And we're talking about him getting drafted in late round two. I think right here, or maybe at the early part of round three, it's just fine. Yeah, I mean, again, it's the same thing like what I was saying about the running backs

at the end of round one versus the receivers. You're kind of splitting hairs at this point. It's just a matter, I think, of personal preference between Galladay, Moore, Cooper, Thielen, and Juju. Okay, let's go to round three. We're all within five picks. Yeah, so round three has Leonard Fournette, then Cooper, Thielen, Juju, then Carson, Holmesomes Todd Gurley

Odell Beckham Lamar Jackson Marlon Mack Cooper Cup and Calvin Ridley so it's Fournette Amari Cooper Adam Thielen

Juju Smith-Schuster Chris Carson Patrick Mahomes Todd Gurley Odell Beckham Lamar Jackson Marlon Mack Cooper Cup

and Calvin Ridley. Heath, what's the best pick of round three? What's the worst pick? Lamar Jackson's obviously the best pick. I made that one. And you took Marlon Mack, so it's probably the worst. Come on. No.

And this will probably be surprising, but I really like the Cooper Cup pick at the end of round three. He has been elite pretty much whenever he's been on a field in his career on a season basis. Now, last year he had a cold stretch at the end of the year, but they're trying to get rid of him. I don't think Brandon Cooks is probably going to be there by the time we get to the start of the season. I expect him to dominate targets for the Rams

and be a number one wide receiver in both formats. And their run game could be bad. I'm not sure it's going to be much worse than last year. They may not run it as much. It may not be as stubborn. A touchdown production. You're right. You're right.

A lot of goal line plunges there. And who's the guy that's the security blankie in the red zone for the Rams? It's Cooper Cup. So let's go around the room. We'll go Jamie, Dave Heath, Cooper Cup, or Calvin go around let's go around the room we'll go Jamie Dave Heath Cooper Cup or Calvin Ridley Jamie Cup Dave pour one out for Cup Heath they're both my top 12 but I'll take Cup and you see Mahomes go middle of round three to Dave and then Gurley and Beckham and obviously huge question marks on both of those guys and then

Lamar Jackson. So you know when do you take Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson when you start to have questions about the other guys perfect perfect way to put it right. That's what I think

now in taking them you have to accept the fact that you're going to watch other teams in your draft get very good values at quarterback, but you're going to get a guy who has the chance to consistently put up 25 to 30 plus points per game with a chance at super consistency and a league-winning type of player for your lineup. So it's a sacrifice you have to make, but I think in round three, that's the perfect time to do it, whereas round one or round two, to get those guys, I think you're just leaving too many other good players on the table. But the distinction here is we're basically just telling 90 of our listeners you're not drafting patrick mahomes or lamar jackson this year unless they slip you know they're probably not going to sure yeah i mean that's fine but i think we feel like those guys get taken too early and we're going to stick to that and let's go around four a.j brown devin singletary t..Y. Hilton,

Cortland Sutton. We certainly are in a different tier of wide receiver here. David Johnson. Well, when T.Y. Hilton was taken. No, you're wrong about that. You're wrong about that. Let's go. Let's go. I took T.Y. Hilton. Let me count how many wide receivers are off the board at this point.

You're talking about A.J. Brown. I would rather have A.J. Brown over T.Y. Hilton. But you like Cortland Sutton, I think, a lot better than Hilton, right? Yeah. Why? They went back-to-back. I took Hilton. Heath took Sutton.

I think they're going opposite directions. We've seen Hilton in the past two years really struggle to stay healthy. Hilton has never been a big touchdown guy. He's really rarely been a huge target guy. I think the Colts have, like, they answered their quarterback problem, probably, but they've made bigger upgrades on the defensive side than they have on the offensive side. They could be a very good defense this year.

And I don't know that T.Y. Hilton is going to see more than maybe 125 targets. I don't think he scores many touchdowns this year. He's the only guy they got. I mean, unless Paris Campbell takes a big step. I mean, he's their guy. He's it. And he and Andrew Luck's last three healthy seasons,

he's been in this format 10th, 4th, and 13th in those three seasons. What years were those seasons? Most recently, 2018. You know, 2018. I believe it was every other year. I believe it was 2014, 16, and 18. 76 catches, 1,270 yards, 6 touchdowns

on 120 targets in 14 games. And he was the number 13 wide receiver. He had 120 targets in 14 games. So, easily could have had 135 targets. And again, you know, he's just very good. I don't know.

Corlin Sutton, you're hoping for something. You got a much worse quarterback than what T.Y. Hilton's got. All right, Dave, Jamie. I don't think we know that. We don't know that. Dave, Jamie, what would you have done, Sutton or Hilton? Sutton. But I see where you're coming from.

I mean, it's just a matter of is T.Y. Hilton? Sutton. But I see where you're coming from. I mean, it's just a matter of is T.Y. Hilton going to stay healthy, and is he the same guy that he was two years ago? Like he said, he's 31. So I'll always gravitate toward third-year breakout type of guys, and I think that's where Sutton is headed.

What if the Broncos draft one of these top three receivers? No, forget that. Right now, Hilton or Sutton? It's still Sutton. It's easier to say Sutton because the Broncos haven't added somebody. By the time most people are listening to this, we will have done this mock draft that we're doing on Monday on CBS Sports HQ. But if you look at most mock drafts around the industry, NFL mock drafts,

the Broncos are very heavily linked to Henry Ruggs. And it makes perfect sense for them. Right. They need some speed. Sutton's not the fastest of guys, but he profiles more as a number one type guy than just a strict burner. Ruggs makes a lot of sense as the second guy there, and I think that will be fine for Sutton's fantasy value still. So, you know, like I said, for me, I don't think there's that much disparity between what the two could be.

Hilton probably could be better if things just absolutely work out well for him, but it's a matter of, like, I think he said it best, they're going in opposite directions, and you'd much rather... I see that. Huh? Yeah, I see that. That's a great point. You'd much rather be with the guy that should be

on the rise than the guy that should be on the decline. It's funny because I was really thinking about taking DK Metcalf there and that would have been a huge reach because I got him 24 picks later. But I don't see what's different about Cortland Sutton and dk meccaf

in non-ppr especially like title lockets on on the seat right but you expect them to add a wide receiver and they just added melvin gordon and they need touchdowns for melvin gordon like melvin gordon if things go right he's gonna try to you know he's gonna get their goal line where he's gonna get touchdowns so they're often have to take a big jump I think for Cortland Sutton. What is the difference between DK Metcalf and Cortland Sutton in your mind? Is it just Lockett? There's more weapons on Seattle's offense.

Seattle's offense might be more aggressive with the football too. Yeah. I mean Sutton was a lot better than Metcalf last year. Right. Metcalf was a rookie and he was just getting his... I think you could a lot better than Metcalf last year. Right. Metcalf was a rookie, and he was just getting his... I think you could make the case for Metcalf to be the better draft day value.

Better draft day value, sure. If Hilton ends up sliding, he might be the best draft day value of all three of these guys. Just depends on where you get them. Round four isn't the time for T.Y. Metcalf, obviously a lot better than Sutton was in Sutton's rookie season. But Sutton a year ahead.

Okay. Finishing up round four. Brown, Singletary, Hilton, Sutton, David Johnson, Melvin Gordon, Le'Veon Bell. We already talked about that group. Tyler Lockett. How about James Conner? Then Zach Ertz, Mark Ingram, and Alan Robinson. That's actually a really interesting last five picks of the round.

Tyler Lockett, James Conner. Tremendous. Zach Ertz, Mark Ingram, and Alan Robinson. What do actually a really interesting last five picks of the round. Tyler Lockett, James Conner. Tremendous. Zach Ertz, Mark Ingram, and Allen Robinson. What do you like about it there, Jamie? Everything. I mean, you're talking about Gordon Bell could be fantastic picks. Lockett, I still think,

is the number one guy in Seattle. We'll see what the gap is between him and Metcalf, but you can make a case that Lockett could be ahead of Brown, Hilton, and Sutton. Ertz is, you know, I think he's going to go in round four, but that's the right spot for him for a team that has not added anything offensively at the wide receiver position for Philadelphia.

And then Robinson could be great with Nick Foles, or at least serviceable to where he was, while Ingram, when you look at the running back fall off you know to get him at the end of round four in my opinion just great value considering what went after him let's talk about our teams

let's do it here we go Dave I'm going to let you go first who are your first two picks in this draft Henry and Jacobs. Running back, running back for you. Staying true to my word that I was taking running backs early on.

That combined with getting Mahomes in round three and having Le'Veon fall in round four set the table for me to do something that I wasn't expecting to do. I went full snips in this draft and didn't take a wide receiver until i think round six which may not be ideal obviously right your first five loaded everywhere else were

two running backs my homes a running back and a tight three running backs my homes and mark andrews yeah all right so let's hear that lineup everybody listen listen to these wide receivers ladies and gentlemen go ahead ready to be envious of these receivers. Here we go. Jarvis Landry is my one. Darius Slayton and Mike Williams, they're probably more like my three, my co threes. And then on my bench, my wide receivers are Deontay Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald. And with my very, very, very last pick, I took Antonio Brown just in case he comes back. Okay, but the rest of your team's good. Mahomes, Henry, Jacobs, Le'Veon Bell at flex,

Mark Andrews at tight end. I wonder if we go back to round five when you took Mark Andrews, you could have taken Stefan Diggs, Dave, or Michael Gallup, or Terry McLaurin, Robert Woods, and then in the next round, you could have taken Darren Waller. So I, or I could have just waited like another four or five rounds to,

uh, to take a tight end. I think that's, I think I don't like the move I should have made, but, or, or maybe the move I should have made was not taking my homes in round three and going with a wide receiver there.

Eh, come on. Mahomes is fun in round three. My philosophy on this, which is always subject to change, A, I thought there was excellent value at the other positions, rounds one, two, three, and four, and pretty much in round five, too. And two, I think that just there are you can find receivers in non-ppr a lot easier than you can find running backs i think you just i think you just did buzz from home alone accidentally you went one no you did a i blah blah blah blah and two and then you made your second point right right? Isn't that what Buzz does? He's like, one, blah, blah, blah.

B, yeah. You know what I'm talking about? I think everybody gets the point without me doing it. So in closing, I don't necessarily love this team, but I would take it to start a season. What the hell? I think I could do better in our next mock. How are we feeling about Heath's team?

It's got Lamar Jackson, Travis Kelsey, Nick Chubb. I think we should save this one for last, to be honest with you. Let's go to Jamie's team. Jamie, with a non-PPR lead, goes wide receiver, wide receiver with his first two picks. Julio Jones and DeAndre Hopkins. Jamie had the 10th pick, right? No, 11th pick. Oh, who was your third pick?

Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup. All right. So interesting here. All right, give us your team. Picking 11th, you took three receivers with your first three picks. Yes, my team is Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, and Cooper Cup as my first three picks.

My quarterback is Brady. I took two tight ends and Noah Phan. I also have Robert Woods, so I have four really good receivers. Did you go receiver with four of your first five picks? No. Yes, four of my first five picks. Adam ruined me on two occasions in the first five rounds. He took Marlon Mack in round three as much as I like Cooper Cup.

I like Cup, I think, better than Mack just based on overall. But after going receiver to receiver, I was hoping Mack would have been there. And he took Mack. I took Cup at the end of the third round because I knew Ben Schrager had started running back, running back, so he was going to probably take a receiver. So that's why I took Kopp as opposed to taking running back, running back. But in any event,

my receiving core is the strength of my team. My running backs are not. My first one was Devin Singletary in round four, and then the rest of my running backs are Phillip Lindsey, Justin Jackson, Tevin Coleman, Tariq Cohen, and Latavius Murray. And Jamie referenced how I ruined him twice.

I just want to celebrate that. Ronald Jones in round five. Yes. You wanted him and you took Philip Lindsay instead, right after I took Ronald Jones. Yes. Somebody could be ruined by Ronald Jones. Yeah. How about that?

And Buckspan. But do you feel okay with it in a non-PPR league? yes somebody could be ruined by ronald jones yeah yeah how about that um all right so and bucksman but why but do you feel like you feel okay with it in a non-ppr league you know would you do do it differently and specifically i think why take cooper cut like in rounds three and four why not take devin singletary and levion bell or melvin gordon or james connor or something like that whoever your highest rankranked running backs were. Yeah, I mean, if you were to tell me that, I could have gotten Robert Woods in round five, which is probably something I should have done.

But like Heath said, Cupp at the end of round three is just a very good value pick. So I didn't expect Daryl Henderson and David Montgomery and Kerryon Johnson and Ronald Jones to all go in the fifth round ahead of me. So I was kind of looking at it as okay i'm comfortable with singletary given the way that i started this team as my as my number one guy i thought i was gonna have essentially like two number two running backs as my starters you know not not having a stud but then doing the same thing so like if i had even ronald jones as as uh polarizing as he may be, instead of Lindsey. If I had Singletary and Jones in the same collection, because Jackson could still be really good with the Chargers.

Coleman, for what it's worth, is probably still penciled in as a starter for the 49ers, even though Mostert's better. Latavius Murray is going to have a role for the Saints. And I think Tariq Cohen will be better than he was last year. Maybe not as good as he was in 2018, but still good enough to be a rotation guy. So I don't mind it. I just don't like the fact that Lindsey is not in good standing right now as my number two guy. All right.

Since we're saving Keith for last, I'll run through my team real quick. I have the 10th pick, Russell Wilson, Miles Sanders, and Marlon Mack, Tyreek Hill, T.Y. Hilton, and D.K. Metcalf, Austin Hooper, and I also took Jared Cook later in the draft because I think Cook might be better than Hooper, but one of those two tight ends, and Ronald Jones. Again, Wilson, Sanders, and Mack at running back. Tyreek Hill, T.Y. Hilton, D.K. Metcalf at wide receiver.

Austin Hooper or Jared Cook at tight end. And Ronald Jones at flex. I have Brandon Cook. You got all your guys. I didn't like this team, to be quite honest. Those are all your guys. It's a good team. It's okay. The best one so far.

It's okay. Oh, you think? I don't know. I mean, I think Marlon Mack in this format could be really good. So I was happy to get him in round three. You know I love Miles Sanders, obviously. As much as I can defend T.Y. Hilton, I also see a lot of downside there.

And we'll see about Ronald Jones. Right now, Ronald Jones looks like he could be one of the best value picks, but who knows what the situation will be as we get closer to the season. Yeah, but I think, like, you know, forget about where you took Hilton. The fact that Hilton's your second receiver

is perfectly fine. All right. All right, then I's your second receiver is perfectly fine. All right. Then I guess I'll be happier about it. Well, Heath's team is pretty fascinating. And Jamie's got a lot of running backs on his bench that are one injury away from being really, really good. And Heath has the same thing. And he's going to need it.

All right, Heath, go ahead. Give us your team. I might need them. I'll need them for one week for sure. I started off with Travis Kelsey, Nick Chubb, Lamar Jackson, and Cortland Sutton. And I just absolutely love that start. You're going to have to get a little bit lucky later for that to work out. When you take a quarterback and a tight end in the first four rounds,

you're probably going to be bad at either wide receiver or running back and maybe both of things don't work out well my wide receivers are Sutton Gallop Devante Parker Marvin Jones and Golden Tate I don't feel bad about that group at all now I may like Sutton a little bit more than most people do as a number one but Gallop is a solid number two. I don't really even like Parker that much relative to where he's being drafted by ADP, but I think he's a good number three wide receiver. And then Marvin Jones is a pretty underrated flex,

uh, running backs, Nick Chubb and Kareem hunt are my number one and number two running backs. And I think that it's interesting because they're going to hurt each other a little bit. If one of those guys gets hurt, I probably have a top three running back. Yeah.

Top five. But then I don't have a number two running back. My bench is Chase Edmonds, Tony Pollard, Royce Freeman, Damian Harris, and Lamar Miller. Yeah, there's potential there. And it's just, you know, you look at this team and you say all right he's starting nick chubb and kareem hunt he's not starting a running back at flex he only has two running backs on his roster that are even worth considering as a starter and quite frankly i don't even know that kareem hunt should be a starter in a non-ppr league i guess i'll let you weigh in on

that but in his eight games he was the number 25 running back i'm pretty sure in non-ppr in that stretch don't number 26 um yeah so the question is you know could if you were really going to play this league out can you just say okay look obviously i'm weak there but i have arguably the number one quarterback in Lamar Jackson. I have the number one tight end in Kelsey's, the price you pay. And I'll just play the waiver wire and get my second running back. Well, that's kind of what you're saying, except I've got three people's handcuffs. And you have to hope one of those turns into a starter.

One of those handcuffs is your own. No, I was talking about Pollard, Chase, well, I guess Pollard and Chase Edmonds, it's really just two, and then I've got three lottery tickets. If LeVar Miller is still a lottery ticket, what year are you playing the lottery? He'll probably be starting

running back in Tampa Bay. He might. He might. I don't think he's better than Ronald Jones. Or he's the type of lottery ticket where you win a free three-day-old egg roll or something like that somewhere. Yeah, I mean, you just have to hope it happens fairly early

because you're going to be dropping them. You're not going to hold on to Tony Pollard and Chase Edmonds. I don't even know why you drafted Royce Freeman. Well, this is an interesting team if you talk about just getting studs at a few spots because look nick chubb even with kareem hunt there is still in the stud conversation uh jackson

and kelsey are obviously studs sutton could be but the the combination of sutton gallop and parker should be fine um but you know if if that's just a skeleton of what his team is by the end of the season he'll add to it and be fine. It's not going to look pretty on draft day when you have two guys on the same team as you're starting running backs. And then I think my depth at running back, while I don't have a Nick Chubb, is better than what Keith has in terms of the guys right now.

Guys like Tevin Coleman, right? And who else? Justin Jackson, Latavius Murray and Tricon. I'd rather have those guys on my bench for sure. I'd rather have Kareem Hunter as a number two than Lindsey. I like Jamie's bench more. I like my number two more. I think Lindsey and Hunt are kind of in the same boat. We just don't know what Lindsey's role is going to be.

We kind of have an assumption of what Hunt's role is going to be. I'll give you the team that I thought was the best if you have a second. I just want to know why Heath took Young-Wei Ku at kicker. Talk about your strategy there. Jamie, go ahead. What's the best, if you have a second. Yeah, I just want to know why Heath took Young-Wei Ku at kicker. Talk about your strategy there. Jamie, go ahead. What's the best team? Alright, this team has Drew Brees at quarterback, Austin Eckler,

Dalvin Cook, and James Conner at running back. Juju Smith-Schuster, AJ Green, and Will Fuller at wide receiver as the top three guys. And Evan Ingram at tight end. That's Marone Berkson, baby. Yeah, that's

pretty good. And so what did he do? He waited on quarterback, waited on tight end, and just went after receivers and running backs. Yeah, I mean, Ingram's going to be in that jumbled mix. You know, so whether it's

waited or round eight, though, round mean, Ingram's going to be in that jumbled mix. You know, so whether it's weighted or... It's round eight, though. It's round eight. Probably jumped at the end of the run, I would say. Round eight, baby, for Evan Ingram. And he also has, you know, he handcuffed Fuller and Stills, so he did the friendship strategy. Oh, that's cute. And Marquis Brown. Ooh, that is good.

Ooh, that is good. I like that. That's a great team. Good job, Mehron. He also has Madison to handcuff the cook. Mehron Berkson is representing, and good job to him. And I just realized that Heath, me, and Jamie had back-to-back-to-back picks. That always seems to happen. It's very strange.

Thanks for listening, everybody. We'll talk to you on Wednesday with some bounce-back candidates and a lot of your emails. I was going to read a few today, but ran out of time, so we'll read a lot of them on Tuesday. Until then, talk to you later on Fantasy Football Today.