Fantasy Football Today - Over-Rostered Players, Handcuff Strategies, FAB Tips! (09/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 8, 2020So you've completed your draft and you have Miles Sanders on your team. You also have Chase Edmonds, but now you have an opportunity to trade for Boston Scott. Should you do it? We discuss some handcu...ff strategies (3:45). And who is more valuable: The Latavius Murray/Edmonds/Scott/Tony Pollard group, or guys like Darrell Henderson, Darrel Williams and Joshua Kelley (9:50)? ... News and notes (17:15)! We talk about Kareem Hunt's contract and some Week 1 injury notes. Then we'll tell you about some players who are rostered in too many leagues (23:30). Should Leonard Fournette be universally rostered? And we've got some veteran WRs who you can probably cut ... FAB tips (37:10), Fantasy Cops (51:00) and a major announcement ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports.
On his way to the end zone.
I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play.
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
What a play.
Off to the races.
Touchdown.
Oh, he's done it again.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben.
All right, welcome to the show.
It is Tuesday, and we're wrapping up our drafts.
Ben Gretzky, Dave Richard, you got any drafts remaining?
Oh, yeah.
I have at least three that I know about,
and I have to tell a heartbreaking story to begin.
And then I'll tell a funny story to make everything better.
I was invited to a draft that I had to turn down.
It's a draft that I've wanted to be in for a long time.
And the timing just didn't work out.
And so I'm going to be in one less league than I maybe could have,
should have been in.
I turned down the Waterbury Open,
hosted by none other than Twitter's version of Shooter McGavin.
I don't know what that means.
You don't know who Shooter McGavin is?
I know who Shooter McGavin is.
Shracker doesn't.
But Twitter's version of Shooter McGavin?
What does that mean?
Well, it's not the real Shooter McGavin.
Shooter McGavin was a fictional character
played by Chris McDonald in the movie Happy Gilmore.
But this is somebody who took on the persona on Twitter.
And honestly, it's maybe the only Twitter handle
that's changed my life.
And now I can't even participate
in his special fantasy league that he invited me to.
Shooter, yeah.
Well, I'm sorry to hear that, Dave.
I told him that usually by 10.30,
I'm finishing up my warm glass of milk
and going to bed,
but because I'm unable to participate in his draft,
I'm going to have a warm glass of shut the hell up.
Yeah, all right.
Well, now you're back to her.
Happy the gold jacket's yours.
Shooter's going to choke.
That's such a weird one-off line in that movie.
So it's me, Dave and Ben.
Adam Sandler wanted to give his buddy a line in the movie.
And that was the line that they put in.
Yeah.
So weird.
So funny story.
I think this is a funny story.
Somebody,
we have an office league and I guess Jamie picked up Daryl Williams a few
days ago,
but that was before the commissioner of the league had set up waivers.
So someone else in the league sent an email and said, Hey,
shouldn't Jamie have to give back Darrell Williams and have him go back on
waivers? Cause Jamie picked them up before waivers were set up.
And I, and I just knew that if I didn't reply, I don't,
I really don't think anybody would have replied.
That email would have just sat there. So I wrote back. I was like, yeah,
I think that's a good point. If that's what happened. Um, something Something like that. So Jamie, we just got off the phone. Jamie's like,
why did you respond to that email? I'm like, well, because nobody was going to say anything.
I didn't want to just sit there. And Jamie's explaining to me probably what happened and
what the mistake was. And I was like, yeah, I didn't want it to go unnoticed. And Jamie goes,
but you're not even in the league. I was like, I'm not?
I think Jamie made me a co-manager
so I could see the league for content
or something like that.
And here I am responding to your...
Here I am playing fantasy cop
in a league that I'm not even in.
So I felt really bad about that.
Well, I mean, it's not surprising
after you called your local government officials
after a golf course was open.
But no, I love the way
Dave said he has three more that he knows of.
I don't know. I know
I have two more, but that's all
I know of. Well, I got Twitch tonight
sharing a team on Twitch. So the Twitch draft is
tonight and Twitch 7pm
Eastern Time, Tuesday,
Thursday, and then 1130 a.m on sundays answering
all of your questions all right let's get to it first topic i want to address came up from a
couple of emails and it's about handcuff strategy uh and i know i know we've talked about this but
let's do it again because i'm getting enough questions about it so nick from chicago says
should i trade boston sc Scott to the Miles Sanders manager
for Chase Edmonds? Because I have
Kenyon Drake.
Do you just swap handcuffs there?
And then Steve from a Michigan
town known for chicken and Christmas.
Dave?
Detroit.
Oh, okay.
That's a big town.
I'm pretty sure they have chicken and celebrate Christmas in Detroit. They do. It's a big town. I have James Conner. I'm pretty sure they have chicken and celebrate Christmas in Detroit.
They do.
It's a good point.
I have James Conner and I have A.J. Dillon.
Should I drop Dillon for Benny Snell?
So we're getting these types of handcuffs questions.
So let's start with that first idea of I have Chase Edmonds
and I drafted Boston Scott.
Should I make a trade to the Miles Sanders manager? Give up Edmonds.
Oh no,
I got it backwards.
I have Boston Scott and I have Kenyon Drake.
Should I give up Scott to get Chase Edmonds and everybody gets their
handcuff?
Dave,
where would,
where would you stand on that?
Would you,
is that something you would do?
It's something I would do.
It's not something that I would actively seek out.
There's probably a reason why you drafted Boston Scott in your draft and
you probably wanted to have him and he probably carries a little more standalone value at this point than chase edmunds
does i might wake up i might wait a week before following through on that trade because what if
sanders re-interests his hamstring again week one what if he is limited in week one and boston scott
ends up playing great
i i would hold i would wait a week i would tell the other fantasy manager you know what it's not
a bad idea in principle let's give it a week and see what happens of course you're running the risk
that kenyan drake you know gets hurt and misses time and then you don't get chase edmonds at all
but i i think you i think you wait i don't think you'd jump into it right now. And Ben,
you like to have your hands in as many pies as you can.
Right.
So you'd rather have.
And I do too.
Yeah.
And for me,
it's,
it's kind of similar to what Dave said.
It's a player value.
And Scott,
for me is a full tier ahead of Edmonds.
I understand like that.
They're similar in a lot of ways,
but I'm really high on Scott.
Um,
and so I wouldn't make that particular
trade but i it's funny we did a the fft draft what at the end of last week or i don't know
i guess it was monday morning early monday morning and uh i ended up dave called me out
because i ended up grabbing uh pollard and i had taken ezekiel elliott fourth overall and
that was because pollard was my top running back for over a round.
And so, yeah, I ended up handcuffing,
but it's mostly just because Pollard was the clear pick for me at that point.
And I don't even necessarily love it, but he was a clear best option for me.
So to me, it's just like, where do you rank the backups?
I'm not necessarily going to completely avoid it,
but I would much prefer Scott.
And so I'm going to keep Scott.
Right. So if we go to our second email from Steve from,
I don't think it's Detroit.
I think it's Santa wing.
It's known for chicken and Christmas.
That's probably Detroit.
It's one or the other.
Yeah.
I've never been to Santa,
Santa wing.
And he says,
dear Sam cliff,
Norman coach.
Do either of the Ben's know that?
Oh,
Dave ruined it.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Cheers. Yeah. I knew that. Okay. The other Ben Trager did's know that? Oh, Dave ruined it. Sorry, sorry. Cheers. Yeah, I knew that.
Okay. The other Ben Schrager did not know that.
No, no, no. You didn't know that?
No.
Classic show. Do you even know who Ted
Danson is?
Ted Danson? The guy
dances in a gif?
No, Ted Danson. What do you think
he would know Ted Danson from?
Three Men and a Little Lady?
Well, I mean, that is a classic.
He's been in a lot of stuff.
You definitely know Ted Danson.
He might be the best comedic actor in television history.
Yeah, there's that song about him,
Hold Me Closer, Ted Danson.
No, that's Tony Danza.
That's Tony Danza, man.
Oh, Tony Danza, that's what it is.
Come on, man.
All right, but this question is a little bit different.
I'm starting to think that Schrager was literally born eight months ago.
Oh, I know him from CSI.
He wasn't on CSI.
Yeah, he starred in it.
Ted Danson was on CSI?
Yeah, maybe like in my time, like the past 10 years.
Adam, is this true?
I have no idea.
I'm Googling. He's definitely on The Good Place, which is one of the best comedies made like the past 10 years yes i don't know i have no idea i'm googling he's
definitely on the good place which is one of the best comedies made in the last five years
ted danson csi all right so anyway yeah i guess he was on csi i'm way off i thought ted danson
was like only legally allowed to be on nbc sitcoms okay okay so aj dylan this uh so steve wants to
know if he should drop AJ Dillon
for Benny Snell since he has James Connor. And we just got a report. I mean, we got a report that
made this probably an easier call, but the athletic saying that don't expect AJ Dillon
quote, don't expect AJ Dillon to unseat Jamal Williams anytime soon. Yes. People have been
mesmerized by Dylan stature, especially his tree trunk quads, but Williams can catch the football.
Dylan hasn't shown yet that he can in aunk quads. But Williams can catch the football.
Dylan hasn't shown yet that he can in a game.
Running backs coach Ben Sermon said that's the biggest difference between the two.
So I do think you could do this.
Would you drop A.J. Dillon for your handcuff?
It doesn't have to be Benny Snell or whatever,
but in general.
I think I'm close on this one, too.
There's two things that I have to have to take a handcuff or to pick one up. One, they have to be cheap. And in the case of Tony Pollard, I just made that example. He was a lot later of a pick than I expected him to be. And then the second is they have to be the clear backup. There can be no ambiguity because, I mean, if you're a high picked running back, it's hurt early in the year, you're already in a bad spot.
If they get hurt late in the year,
if there's any ambiguity,
he might not be the handcuff anymore.
The guy you thought he was in August
might not be anymore.
So I don't know where there's really value
that gets brought in.
The early injury, I guess, there's some value,
but it's like, well,
you're already kind of in a bad spot.
Benny Snell seems to clearly be the number two.
They really, really like him, and similar to Pollard. It doesn't seem like there are a ton of those
situations this year though. Okay. All right. So then that brings us to this question, right?
Who is more valuable? Some of these guys are kind of handcuffs, but they're in the, you know,
the Boston Scott Chase Edmonds, that group, where they might have some standalone value,
or these other running backs who are owned in fewer leagues. I just find these ownerships interesting. So if you're sitting there and you're wondering if you should hang on to a backup
running back, you're probably not going to start or take a chance on a guy like Josh Kelly.
Who's more valuable? Okay. So the five running backs I highlighted here that are all in 64%,
rostered in 64% or more of leagues,
Latavius Murray, Alexander Madison,
Tony Pollard, Boston Scott, and Chase Edmonds.
Latavius is 89% rostered.
The others are in the 65 range.
Madison, Pollard, Scott, and Edmonds.
Would you keep them or would you drop them
for any of these players who are rostered
in less than 50% of leagues?
Daryl Henderson, Damian Harris, Chris Thompson,
Daryl Williams, Josh Kelly, Justin Jackson,
Devine Ozigbo, and James Robinson.
I'll give that list again.
Daryl Henderson, Damian Harris,
any of the Jacksonville running backs, Daryl Williams, Josh Kelly, and Justin Jackson.
Let's take Zigbo Harris and Jackson off the list because I'm not, I'm not keeping them in the case
of Harris. I'll keep him if I have an IR spot. But otherwise, I'd rather spend that roster spot on another running back
who could have some breakout potential early on in the season.
And that list, the running backs with early season breakout potential
would include Kelly.
It would include Daryl Williams.
It would include pretty much everybody else that you named.
James Robinson is absolutely on that list.
Daryl Henderson might not play in week one.
He might not play in week one he's he might not play in week one he would be he's like a better version of damian
harris because i i almost figure if you're if you're stashing him you're doing it for the first
month because you want to see what you get out of him and it goes without saying that almost anybody
that you named is going to get cut if there is a really good player that comes up off the waiver wire that we've all completely missed
and you lost in week one so that you can pick them up easily.
Yeah, I pretty much agree with those identifications.
This is interesting because Murray, Madison, Pollard, and Edmonds
for me are all really close.
I mentioned Scott.
I have a tier higher, but I have Kelly in that tier above with Scott. So he's
one that I think I would prefer to all of these
guys other than Scott.
So if you're the Alvin Camaro
owner, would you drop Latavius
Murray for Josh Kelly?
Because I would not. No, I
think Pollard,
Madison,
Murray, and Scott in full PPR.
And maybe half PPR.
And maybe non-PPR.
Okay, fine.
Those four for sure you got to hold on to,
especially if you've got the starter in front of them.
I think I would.
I would take Kelly over Murray in that scenario.
And I know it's a little bit risky and goes against what you guys both just said.
But I think I would.
And then I was also going to know that Daryl Williams and Robinson for me
are both in that group, the tier with Madison and Pollard and those guys.
So if you prefer one of them, I don't have a huge issue with it.
Yeah, I would say that with all of those running backs I mentioned
being rostered in less than 50% of leagues, Henderson, Harris.
Well, let's forget about Harris,
so Zigbo and Justin Jackson, right?
Henderson, Thompson, Darrell Williams,
Josh Kelly, James Robinson.
They're owned in 20 to 49% of leagues.
Hopefully you can make room for them.
Okay, hopefully there's maybe like a crappy wide receiver
that you have or something.
We're going to talk about some players
who are owned or rostered in too many leagues.
But I don't know
I see Dave
I see
five running backs
what is it
it's Henderson
Thompson
Williams
Kelly
Robinson
five running backs
in less than 50%
of the roster
in less than 50%
of leagues that
should be
should be
yeah I'm not saying
they should be
100% rostered
no
but
there's an opportunity right now.
Absolutely.
Well, I don't know about Henderson getting that opportunity.
No, no, I mean for fantasy managers.
It's an opportunity to get a running back.
But still, I think I'd rather roster Robinson, for example,
who's the running back that no one really knows about.
We could introduce everybody to him if you wanted to,
but no one really knows who he is,
and no one might want to know who he is
because he might be a starter for Jacksonville,
but he's part of a committee in Jacksonville
where they're going to play from behind in Jacksonville
where their offensive line makes Washington feel better
about their offensive line.
And he's not a great pass catcher,
certainly not compared to Chris Thompson,
but I would still rather have him just in case,
just in case he ends up being the reason why the Jaguars give the Colts
a run for their money in week one.
And all of a sudden he turns into a potential breakout
who by week four, week five, we end up starting.
Okay. All right.
We got a lot more coming up, including some fab tips,
how to get to the season if you're managing your fab, the most over-rostered players, the fantasy cops. And I want to ask you guys who's moved the most in the ranking since training camps opened. There's one player in particular that I, that I really want to focus on here that starting to think I may have overreacted a little bit, but I'll get your thoughts on it. But it's been a while
since I have worked on a resume, thankfully, knock on wood, or written a cover letter,
something like that. But I do send important emails at work, not the ones that I send to
Dave, Ben, etc. But when I need to sound better, communicate more effectively, more clearly, I use Grammarly.
I just started using it. Grammarly.com slash FFT is where you want to go. G-R-A-M-M-A-R-L-Y.com
slash FFT. You can get 20% off Grammarly Premium. So like Dave, when you write your columns,
just upload the document right into Grammarly. What it's going to do is it's going to look at
your writing. It's going to suggest different vocabulary. It's going to make some grammatical
changes, unless you're just so good you don't need any grammatical changes, but it's just going to
maybe eliminate some sentences, make it less verbose. This is a really cool feature for anyone
who's writing, who has a speech coming up, anything like that, grammarly.com slash FFT.
Give it a shot. You're going to be writing more confidently and more effectively. So yeah, you can either upload something or you can write,
type directly onto Grammarly.com. And it's just going to scan your document and find some things
that can be better. And it's going to talk about your clarity, your engagement, your delivery.
So like I said, I've used it for work emails. If I were a writer for the website, if I had to write
some columns, that would be bad news for all of you. But if I did, I absolutely would use Grammarly. It would
make my columns a lot better and a lot more effective. Sometimes you don't even realize
how repetitive you're being when you're writing something. So that's been the case sometimes where
I've written an email, put it in Grammarly and says, you can eliminate this. It just makes it
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I got contract news here.
The Saints close to an extension with Alvin Kamara.
The Cardinals signed DeAndre Hopkins to an extension.
And the Browns signed Kareem Hunt to a two-year $13.25 million deal.
Ben, what did you think of this Kareem Hunt signing?
I thought it was interesting. I mean, obviously, there was some talk in the Dynasty community that
Hunt could potentially be a three-down back next year somewhere else, and Chubb could also be a
three-down back. But now we're looking at a multi-year situation where they're probably
going to be splitting. I don't think it changes anything for 2020 and what our expectations were.
And as far as Dynasty is concerned, I'm not really sure.
I think it's a little bit of a knock on Chubb,
certainly, obviously, to have Hunt back.
I don't think it really impacts Hunt too much
because I don't think there was ever really a reason
to believe that he was a lock
to get a three down roll somewhere else in a great situation.
And this is not a bad situation.
He's being used pretty heavily.
There's a reason he's being drafted in the fourth,
fifth round in some redraft leagues,
he's being used as standalone value.
And then he also has plenty of upside.
If something happens to Chubb over the next couple of years,
at some point he could have a league winning season.
So yeah,
I mean,
I think fine for hunt and his like dynasty value.
And then,
you know,
a little bit of a knock for Chubb,
certainly long-term.
Dave, Justin Jackson expected to play week one. Daryl Henderson
trending in the right direction. The Rams apparently
are going to use three running backs if Henderson plays
in week one. What's
a bigger mess right now?
Yeah, maybe.
I really
feel like the Niners were more of a two-back
team than people think.
Yeah, well, that was when they didn't have Jerick McKinnon.
That is true.
His contract, speaking of contracts,
they gave him a lot of money to not play the last two years, I'm sure, obviously.
He got hurt, whatever.
I think it could get messy.
I think Malcolm Brown is going to be one of those disposable running backs
where you'll have them on your team now, and by week four, you'll say,
why is this guy still on my team?
He's not doing anything.
He's not very good.
Akerson and Henderson, to me, are the key guys moving forward.
They're more explosive.
Brown is almost like the safety net who is going to get the ceremonial first carry
and first start
because he's been with the team for so long.
He is rostered in 17% of leagues, Malcolm Brown.
So it doesn't sound like we have much interest there.
You'd have to be 3 a.m. at the bar desperate
to start Malcolm Brown week one.
Man, there have been plenty of nights
where I have gone to the bar at 3 a.m.,
just desperate as hell, said,
hey, open up the kitchen,
give me a damn pizza or some chicken wings or something.
That's what you meant, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
What do you think on that?
I don't know.
Patriots expected to ease Sonny Michel into the mix,
so are we not starting him in week one?
You shouldn't.
Yeah. Please don't make me have to choose between Sonny not starting him in week one? You shouldn't.
Please don't make me have to choose between Sonny Michel and Malcolm Brown week one.
Okay, you don't have to.
Michel, I expect to see a lot of white
in Rex Burkhead in week one.
We know Harris is going to be out as well.
And Brandon Cooks was limited with a calf injury.
Is he in jeopardy of missing Thursday's game?
I haven't looked into it yet,
and we'll see
if he practices or how much he practices on tuesday and wednesday ultimately the injury report comes
out but aaron wilson who covers the texans said that he's been fast throughout camp he's been
separating from defenders and uh that leads me to believe that he'll be okay for the game and i like
him if he's active i like him i like fuller more but I think both of them can
end up getting minimum eight targets against the chiefs imagine if will fuller was limited with the
calf injury leading to week one would Dave be saying that he liked it if he was hold on if
he's limited and he's playing I would say I liked him yeah fuller's gonna get I think fuller's gonna
get 12 targets and go for about 150 yards I think the opener. I think 100 yards is at least the minimum.
And he's going to be chalky in DFS,
which is why I think going to Cooks might be the better idea
because everyone in the world is going to be on Fuller.
But Kansas City's secondary right now has some issues.
Charvaris Ward is their only reliable starter.
Everybody else they have is a big, huge question mark at this point.
Their other outside cornerback, Bashaw Sean Breland suspended to begin the year. So Houston can win there.
It's Watson evading the Chiefs pass rush and uncorking a couple of deep balls where he can
really give the Texans a chance to make some big plays. And he did it in two games last year,
had 42 and 52 pass attempts in those games. Yeah. It's a huge number there.
Um, by the way,
those two teams,
I'm looking forward to previewing this game tomorrow,
but the chiefs and the Texans gave up the most receiving yards to running
backs last year.
We'll see if that continues in this one.
That'd be great for Clyde Edwards.
He layer,
maybe for David Johnson,
maybe for Duke Johnson.
Um,
but you know,
actually if,
uh,
if Watson's going to throw more than 40 times,
I bet Duke Johnson is like a five-catch guy or something like that.
Wouldn't shock me.
I'm not starting him.
No.
Maybe, you know, 16-team PPR league, three running backs.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
Sure.
Well, I'd start him over Malcolm Brown in PPR.
There you go.
How about you?
I would, too.
Would you do that?
Okay.
All right. Two more notes here.
Colts tight end Trey Burton is on IR with a neck injury.
Jack Doyle gets the Jaguars in week one
and 50% rostered for Jack Doyle.
Dave, did he crack your top 15 in week one?
At tight end, I will double check,
but I believe he did.
Okay.
All right. I'm checking right now. Well, while you do check, but I believe he did. Okay. All right.
I'm checking right now.
Well, while you do that, I'll let everybody know.
I just hit T.E. on the pull down.
He is exactly 15.
Hey, how about that?
Ahead of Gronk, Gesicki, Chris Herndon, Austin Hooper.
He's ahead of C.J. Uzama.
Oh, okay.
That's Jack Doyle.
And finally, the Giants waived
DeAndre Baker,
who was their first round,
one of their three
first round picks
a couple of years ago.
Yeah, 2019,
I guess that was.
And the only cornerback
selected in round one
that year, actually,
and now waived.
So, the most
over-rostered players
on too many rosters,
get rid of them.
I came prepared with a list
just in case you guys
don't have any names
off the top of your head.
I can throw these at you.
Please do.
Okay.
Is that what we want to do?
Yeah, because I don't have a list.
That's my fault.
I should have sent that out earlier
to give you time.
But 99% rostered Leonard Fournette.
I just told someone to cut him the other day.
No way.
Somebody asked me, they needed to cut somebody to roster somebody.
And I can't remember what I answer a lot of these DMS, but, um, they needed to add somebody
that they needed to add.
Maybe it was a kicker or something.
And they, it was a shallow league.
They didn't have a lot of options.
And I said, looking at the roster,
in my opinion, Fournette, I don't get it.
Like, I mean, I don't think Fournette is
a bad person to have on your roster right now.
I certainly think there's a lot of upside here,
but there's also a chance that Leonard Fournette
is just bad.
And there's a lot of people that are acting like
he's still just a top five pick
and the last three years didn't happen,
but he wasn't,
he was a compiler running back vault, like volumes.
That's people like, look how many total yards he had last year.
He wasn't good.
He got a ton of touches.
I just don't buy it.
I don't get it.
How, how do you get points in fantasy football, Ben?
Lots of touches.
Okay.
Well, I don't know if he's going to get a lot of touches in Tampa Bay,
but I think the potential is there and half the reason why i was in love with ronald jones from you know the
start of training camp until a week ago was because i thought he was going to get a lot of
touches and now that could fall on four net it's not a guarantee but i think he's he's absolutely
worth rostering yeah but 99 because i'm not sure. Yeah, 99%.
Absolutely.
He belongs on a roster in every fantasy league.
Are you sure he's better than Ronald Jones?
I know it's blasphemy to suggest that Ronald Jones is good,
but he was pretty decent last year.
If I am basing it off of last year,
I would say, yes, Fournette is a better fit
for what Bruce Arians wants
and is therefore the better running back for Tampa Bay.
But I don't have an intimate idea
of exactly how good Ronald Jones was in training camp.
Okay, I know what he did to get ready for training camp,
but if he was amazing in training camp, Ben,
they wouldn't have given Leonard Fournette
what they gave him.
Sure.
Yeah, they just wouldn't.
They would have stuck with they would have stuck with
McCoy and Agumbo Wally
and everybody else that they have.
I did just pull up PFF
player grades literally after asking
that question and Ronald Jones was
graded better was better in the running game
was slightly worse in the passing game
than Fournette better better
pass blocker. Everyone says Jones a terrible pass
blocker Fournette was even worse somehow by two spots but they were both like after they were both terrible
but jones overall had the better grade it was weird last year i think i saw this on pff where
four net was top 10 in elusiveness after being in the 30s the previous two years so there must
have been a couple of plays where he just like just broke a tackle or something or he made a guy
miss and he was just off to the races.
Yeah, he makes some big plays. It could have been that game
against Denver. He had a big run like that against
the Broncos. And that could have
pumped up his elusiveness.
But physical, he's
absolutely more prepared
to handle a goal line role than Rojo.
Well, I don't
know if you did, Dave,
your pros with Joe's draft,
but I just had mine as 14-team league PPR.
You want to guess where Leonard Fournette went?
Round six.
Give me a number overall.
If it's round six in a 14-team league,
that means he's probably like 81st.
Ben, where do you think Fournette went?
I don't even
think I want to know. 45th.
You don't want to know. 47th
he went. 47th overall.
That's so bad. I'm sorry.
Guys, he could be Trent Richardson
2.0, and no one is acting like that's
a possibility.
I was nervous because
the guy I'm sharing a team with, Matthew,
had him in our queue in round three, but we didn't take him, luckily.
We took Patrick Mahomes instead, but no, we didn't pick again for a while,
and Fournette was off the board in round four.
Okay, so anyway, what was I?
All right, let's go back to our list here.
Most over-rostered players.
So I had Fournette at 99%.
That was really the only running back that I thought was
extremely over-rostered. Maybe. Maybe.
I think maybe he should be like 85%. I don't know.
Something like that. But anyway, Emmanuel
Sanders, 83%.
Should be lower.
He will
be
completely unsexy,
but still find a way
to get you four for
65 every single week.
Pretty interesting
in week one, though. Week one
I think is going to be interesting because the Bucs
I can see a lot of points in this game.
Saints, Bucs, the Bucs,
their secondary got a lot better last year, but
actually they were doing pretty well against
number one receivers, not necessarily the number two
guys.
If he gets four catches
every single week, never fluctuates,
which would be good to be that consistent,
he would have 64 catches. There
has been,
I'm pretty sure it's targets, right?
The 75 stat, no one
since Alvin Kamara was
drafted three
years ago, no one other than Alvin Kamara or Michael Thomas on the Saints
has gotten more than 75 targets.
So if he gets 64 catches, he's probably getting over 75 targets
unless he catches every single target he gets.
And so that would mean that he's going to be the best third receiving weapon
in New Orleans in the last four seasons.
And that's not even considering the fact that Jared Cook
already established himself last year as a pretty solid third weapon. I don't see how Sanders can even get four catches a week. Let me give you a fun
take here, right? Emmanuel Sanders. See if you agree with this. So a lot of people really like
Emmanuel Sanders, probably more than anyone on this show does. If you have Emmanuel Sanders and
he has a good week one, I would say he is the best trade candidate. And I could see him having
a good week one. Yeah, but who's going to give you anything
for him? I think a lot of people would, Dave. I think
people are buying in. Chris Harris came on
on Friday and he... Was it Chris Harris,
tracker? Was he the one saying that he likes...
Yeah, Chris Harris was about it. Yeah. A lot
of people like Emmanuel Sanders. He said, hey, once upon
a time, Brandon Cooks and Michael Thomas were both good.
So I think there is some Emmanuel Sanders love
out there. I think that was evident in his ADP.
The fact that he's rostered in 83% of leagues.
You trade him.
He has a good week in week one.
That's a sell high.
Yeah, but what are you going to get?
I don't know.
Anything.
DeAndre Swift.
Okay, all right.
You know, get something.
We'll talk about it after week one when he has 60% touchdown.
Emmanuel Sanders and a bench running back for DeAndre Swift
who disappoints or Devin Singletary.
There's someone that'll have a bad game.
Yeah, that's a great move.
Flustered and they'll go.
That's fine.
And I'm not trying to stand on a podium and say, you know,
make sure Emmanuel Sanders is on your roster.
He's one of those other players who's cuttable for sure for the running
backs that we talked about 10, 15 minutes ago.
Right, right. Like if I'm going into the season, I know I'm not starting Emmanuel Sanders. who's cuttable for sure for the running backs that we talked about 10, 15 minutes ago. Right.
Right.
Like if I'm going into the season, I know I'm not starting Emmanuel Sanders.
If he's my fifth,
sixth or later wide receiver on my bench,
when am I ever going to start him?
Even if he does get four catches per game,
he's like a bi-week replacement.
Right.
So you could certainly cut him for one of the running backs that might be
out there on the waiver wire.
John Brown,
78% rostered Sammy walk in 74% roster. John Brown, 78% rostered. Sammy Walken, 74% rostered.
John Brown, 78%.
Sammy Walken, 74%.
You know what they have in common with Emmanuel Sanders?
They're wide receivers.
They've all been to the chicken and Christmas capital of Michigan.
That's what they've been.
They're wide receivers?
They are familiar names.
And if there's one thing that stands the test of time in fantasy football,
it's that people gravitate toward names that they've seen before.
It's why Adrian Peterson is probably on a bunch of rosters at this point.
I mean, you'll tell me what his roster share percentage is.
I'm going to guess it's about 50.
Yeah, okay.
No, I'm going to guess it's much, much lower.
I'm going to guess it's like 15.
Really? For Adrian Peters?
I'd be surprised by that.
What do you think? Go ahead.
Go ahead, guess.
I'm just saying,
John Brown had 1,000 yards last year.
Sammy Watkins had 1,000 yards
once before in his career.
Manuel Sanders was pretty good
once upon a time.
People will gravitate toward those names
late in their draft.
Are they over-rostered?
Yeah.
Okay.
Go get James Robinson. I kind of think Watkins might prove to they over-rostered? Yeah. Okay. Go get James Robinson.
I kind of think Watkins might
prove to be under-rostered. It's been weird
all year that he hasn't been higher. And I like
Mikko Hardman.
Probably in that offense,
he should be rostered.
Peterson, 38%. I could see Hardman
taking work away from him. Sure.
Golden Tate, 62%.
Hunter Renfro, 56%.
Fine.
I'm fine with Tate.
And Tate kind of belongs
in that same group of names you know.
But he could end up being pretty good,
especially in PPR,
as the Giants pass to save their lives every week.
My issue with Tate is,
do you have the guts to start him against Pittsburgh, Chicago, save their lives every week. My issue with Tate is like,
do you have the guts to start him against Pittsburgh,
Chicago, or San Francisco?
That's his first three.
He's a bye week.
For now, he's a bye week receiver,
but he's one where the target volume
should be better than any other receiver
that we've talked about since this segment began.
Okay.
Robbie Anderson is 43% rostered.
D.D. Westbrook is 25% rostered.
I mean, I know that's not a high percentage, but why?
Watch him catch a touchdown this week,
and then everybody rushes to add D.D. Westbrook.
He's the same percentage as Chenault.
Same roster percentage as Chenault.
That's a problem.
Yeah.
Robbie Anderson at 43%.
There was one beat that said that they were going to cut him
because he was so banged up in camp.
Westbrook.
I mean, it was like an outside shot,
and it made a little news because it was like,
ooh, there's a 53-man projection.
And it didn't happen, obviously,
but I don't see how at this point you can be optimistic
about a guy in the last year's contract
who's never really been productive.
He's 27 years old, and they have this rookie
that they liked enough to take in the upper half
of the second round who is exciting.
That's just not good for D.D. Westbrook.
Okay, what about Robbie Anderson at 43%?
I wouldn't mind having him on my bench for week one
just to see how this Panthers offense operates
and to see whether or not he's
the third most targeted player
or the fourth most targeted player.
And if you're looking for wide receivers that you could
replace these guys with
Paris Campbell, 17%,
Cordell Patterson,
16% rostered.
But he's a running back, Adam.
Yeah, but he is also eligible wide receiver.
Uh-huh.
Wouldn't that be interesting if Cordell patterson ended up being a thing for the bears and you could start
him at receiver even though he's more running back that happened in the middle of the year a
couple years ago and then the like there was talk about switching his position mid-season that was
yeah yeah no there were a lot of fantasy cops on that one. Yeah. And CBS has him eligible at both.
James Washington, 11% rostered.
I mean, there's just like no thought
that the guy who led the Steelers in receiving last year
could actually be the number two receiver on the team.
Yeah, it seems like a problem.
I mean, that's kind of a mistake in my opinion.
The issue is obviously Claypool,
their second round pick is more, you know,
similar to the point I just made about Westbrook.
He overlaps with Washington's skill set
more than Deontay Johnson's,
and he's probably going to take some snaps from Washington,
but that's too much certainty.
He should be on more than this.
Okay, and as far as tight ends go,
Rob Gronkowski,
oh, also I want to say Van Jefferson is 8% playing a deep
league. There's been some Van Jefferson buzz.
We've seen them use three receivers before.
I like that. I
couldn't really find
tight ends who are over-rostered. Maybe Gronkowski
at 93%. Jared Cook at 90%.
But Jared Cook
I think is a week one starter, isn't he, Dave?
I agree. I think he is.
40 and a touchdown. I'm not going to spend much time on tight ends. I think when we week one starter, isn't he, Dave? I agree. I think he is. Yeah. So. Yep.
40 and a touchdown.
Yeah.
I'm not going to spend much time on tight ends.
Well, you know, I think when we preview the games and you just want some streamers,
Cook scored, I think Cook scored in both games
against Jags, against the Bucks last year,
if I recall.
He might have.
I'm pretty sure.
I'm more looking at the linebackers and safeties
and wondering, well, are they really going to dedicate
one of their great linebackers to covering
Jared Cook? I don't think they will.
It'll probably be a safety. That's a matchup
that I think Drew Brees will believe in.
Okay.
Those would be your over-rostered players.
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All right.
Fab tips.
I want to go over a few of the 20 plus dollar fab
bids from last year's 14
team podcast league.
Okay.
Go for it.
Terry McLaurin,
$21.
And you know what?
We are in order.
I think week one,
but like after week one,
but all I know is starting early in the season and moving on.
Okay.
McLaurin, 21.
He was the biggest guy after week one.
Demarcus Robinson, $26.
That might've been me.
Got a few decent games there.
Yeah.
I thought he'd be more involved and better in that offense.
This was the one that you got to learn your lesson from.
Wayne Gallman,
$84 out of a hundred,
by the way,
a hundred dollar budget,
$84 for Wayne Gallman,
who probably won you one week.
Then he got hurt,
unfortunately,
but wow,
$84.
I mean,
at that time,
it sounded like Barkley would miss a month plus and so i understand the
you know the aggressiveness there but as it played out barkley only missed a couple of weeks because
he's superhuman and gallman got hurt himself yeah yeah is it worth it would it do you think it's
worth it to spend 84 to help clinch a win one week. No, not one, but how many weeks?
I believe there was someone on this podcast
who believed that it was worth it.
The way that it...
I think I make a lot of transactions in that league, right?
A lot of $0 bids, but a lot of $1 bids too.
A lot of $5 bids, those types of things.
I cannot imagine going through that season with $16 other than the Wayne Gallman cash in. But let's take Latavius
Murray. He gave you two weeks with over 30 PPR points. How much was that worth?
168, according to the Wayne Gallman chart.
I would say like 50.
And it was
two weeks in the middle of the season.
He might have helped you
kind of keep your playoff hopes alive
for a couple of weeks. It's got to be worth at
least a third. My first thought was it's dependent
on your team's
level at that point when
he emerged. If you were on the playoff bubble, yeah,
he was probably worth every dollar you had left at that point.
Daniel Jones was $21.
Cortland Sutton was $26.
That was like mid-season or
just shy of mid-season.
Gerald Everett, $26.
That was bad. This was an interesting
one. Kenny Stills. This is when Fuller
got hurt. Kenny Stills, it seemed like he had
a great opportunity. $49.
Bad. $49. Bad.
Brian Hill.
So, okay, this is an important lesson.
We don't always know what these teams are going to do with their running backs.
So, Brian Hill is coming off a game where he has 20 carries for 61 yards
and also a 10-yard touchdown catch at New Orleans.
But you look at the touches, you say 21 touches,
he faced the good run defense,
I'll take him.
And he got 15 carries
the next week
against the worst run defense
in football,
what ended up being
one of the worst run defenses
in football, Carolina.
I don't know how bad
they were at that point.
And Brian Hill,
he went for $66,
$66 fab dollars,
and he followed that up
with 15 carries for 30 yards
and one catch for eight yards.
That is four PPR fantasy points.
That sucks.
If I remember correctly, that was, and I'm looking,
yeah, it was one week after Carolina got torched by Washington
by both Darius Geis and Adrian Peterson.
I think they both had 100 yards rushing.
And so Brian Hill was the DFS play.
And I remember I did not play him a lot.
I faded him, and I felt very smart about that
when he didn't do very well.
It sounds like he's the number two now, by the way,
in Atlanta, behind Gurley.
Well, you know, if there's only a week or two long injury,
because Freeman was not supposed to miss that much time,
don't spend $66 on Brian Hill.
No, I thought he'd be better than he was too.
Bo Scarborough was a $35 bid.
He had a 14 carry, 55 yard and a touchdown game.
And then he scored seven, eight and seven fantasy points
in basically both non-PPR and PPR the next three weeks.
He was okay.
He had one catch.
And those were the big bids.
Yeah, I guess um you know bad running
backs or not not great running backs if you're gonna bid a lot on them it's risky yeah i mean
there's a reason why these guys are backup running backs on their own teams right they're not good
enough to be starters on their own teams and overspending to get them these guys aren't going
to be like the rookie running backs like if mark ingram goes down with an injury someone week one mark ingram goes down and if dobbins was somehow
a free agent you know someone would unload all of their fab to get dobbins so it really it's
going to come down to a spot where the the starter gets hurt and the backup is someone that's already regarded as a like high upside
running back that's when you should unload the fab you shouldn't unload for wayne gallman slash
brian hill slash ty johnson or mike boone right that punk i can't stand him and i think another
another point here including boone and hill and Scarborough is people love to save their fab. And then they,
they use it all late on a guy on guys like that.
And I I'm a fan of using it early.
I think guys like Terry McLaurin going,
being willing to be aggressive early in the season that helps you all season.
And,
and these guys you were hoping would help you for a couple of weeks at the
end.
And a lot of them didn't even end up helping because you don't really know
when a,
when a running back goes down late in the year, if the team's going to just mix in some young guys or what so i don't
think like saving all your fab so you can blow it on a brian hill or bo scarborough like that's a
big point here i think i would yeah so if you're in a shallower league versus a deeper league and
you're trying to use your fab does that matter uh are you more aggressive in a certain type of league dave um yeah probably well what shallow
or deep i'm probably going to be more aggressive in the deeper league than the shallow league
because i know that there will be more talent that comes around in the shallow league yeah yeah me too
right early on especially because in the deeper league guys like terry mcclern weren't necessarily
rostered in
pretty much any league. Maybe
they were in some deep leagues, but
there's guys that are the breakouts
of your Alfred Morris or whatever.
I guess he was preseason still a little bit.
There's these guys that come kind of out of
nowhere, and
that's going to be true across any league. They're not going to
be rostered, but like Dave said, you're going to
have other options in a shallow league and a deeply,
that might be your only shot.
So early on,
I'm,
I'm going hard at it.
You probably don't want to spend too much on quarterback streamers and
tight end streamers.
Cause you're going to be doing that every week in some case,
not every week,
but in a lot of weeks,
if you find a quarterback that you think you're going to keep for five
weeks,
that's another thing.
But,
um,
you know,
just,
uh,
first of all, I really recommend $0 bids. I would not want to play in a league that had a hundred
dollar budget, no $0 bids, but Hey, whatever. I don't, I don't, I don't understand the, the like
five, $8 bids. Um, I, I kind of think you either are deciding that you're going to have to beat
someone else's bid and you need to be aggressive. And maybe that in some cases, rare cases that only requires five to eight, but you might need
to be aggressive or you go $0 and you hope no one else bits. And you're like, I could do without
this guy. I'm, but don't, don't get caught in between where you're either going to get out
or you're going to waste some fab. Okay. Any other tips?
Well, to that end, would it be so bad if you spent one or two just in case there's a waiver tiebreaker?
I'm probably guilty of that more than anything.
There's a player that's available that I'm okay with and I wouldn't mind having, but not going to break the bank for.
Don't want to spend 10% of my fab to get them if I only think it's going to be for a couple of weeks.
But I'll spend 2% or 3%.
Yeah, I think going 2% or 3%. Yeah. I think going two or three bucks chance. Yeah. Going two or three bucks to beat the other
people that are trying to get that, that person for zero or one, you know, I think it's totally
fine, but like the, the $8 or $10, when you're probably not going to get them for eight or 10
often, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't play out well.
Um, and we'll, we'll keep giving fab advice throughout the season. We do that a ton.
So when players come up off the waiver wire
that are available that's what our Tuesday
shows are for to help people
set those claims and make sure they're
spending their money the right way
and if you've never played in a fab league it's the best
it's the most fair way to do it
it's fun it's the best
absolutely and there's an option on
CBS and our commissioner leagues
to send the full
fab report out so you can see what others bid.
So if you want someone for 30 bucks and you want to know,
well,
how overaggressive was I?
And you get the fab report and the second highest bid was like eight.
You know,
you can,
people can make fun of you for it or whatever,
or maybe you,
maybe the second highest bid was 26 and you feel really good about your bid,
but you could,
that's an option for the commissioner
to select. I'm sending it out this year. I think
it's a really cool idea.
Okay. So we're going to
save the players that moved the most in your ranking
since training camp opened for tomorrow.
And we'll do some NFL standings predictions
tomorrow and preview the
Thursday night game. We're going to read your
emails now, including a fantasy regulator
slash cops question.
But first,
the worst part of the show.
Okay, Ben.
Big announcement.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is going to be my...
What an intro.
I'm very upset.
I'm honestly very upset.
I'm glad you're sad.
Yeah, this is going to be my last show,
at least for now. Yeah, I'm going to be leaving for the regular season. Um, I'm going to be
doing some, some sports betting writing and also just going to be taking some time away for a
little bit. And, uh, I'll still be around on Twitter. You can follow me on Twitter at yards
per Gretsch, but yeah, I won't be a regular on the pod um you know after after today so yeah it's a bummer i i
have really enjoyed this i've really enjoyed working with you guys for the last 16 months
this is an awesome team i i was telling you guys this you know and not on the air but i've learned
so much from every single person on this team that's been such a blast for me personally but um yeah a little bittersweet not not not you know there's
sometimes it's a business type type of thing you know but it sucks yeah very upset about it
i've enjoyed having ben so like on the show so much and i've had the pleasure of working with
a lot of really really nice people we have almost entirely like really nice people on the fantasy
staff since i've been at the company since 2009. And Ben fit in perfectly. He's one of the nicest
people I've worked with. So that's always the first thing. I mean, that's the thing I care
about the most. Do I enjoy working with the person? Yes. Ben, I enjoyed working with you so
much. I learned a lot from you. Your prospect profiling is like top notch. I learned a lot
about college players. I'm going to like,
you taught me to draft Le'Veon Bell and David Johnson and Melvin Gordon in every single one of my drafts. So I'm going to do that. No, I, I, I'm not a hundred percent in on the running back
dead zone, but I'm probably about 85% in. So you've influenced me quite a bit there. Um,
I'm going to miss you, man. And hopefully we'll have you on from time to time.
And first of all, I did not expect to hear news like this when I woke up today. And I'm frustrated
and I echo what Adam said. I've learned a lot from you and you were great to have around.
Is there one piece of actionable advice, one thing that you want our listeners to
take away with them for their drafts for the rest of
their lives yeah do everything that dave richard says thank you perfect i and listen you you
clearly are a man of you know high intelligence and uh i like your advice no for real is there
is there seriously one thing well Well, I mean, um,
I don't know that there is,
you guys know that I've always kind of been the,
the,
the,
the little edges things,
but yeah,
I mean like structurally and drafts don't overvalue running backs.
It's probably my biggest thing.
There's no such thing as guaranteed touches,
you know,
be,
be open to not chasing the running back position.
That's kind of my biggest mantra. So basically the opposite of follow everything that Dave Richards, right, be, be open to not chasing the running back position. That's kind of my biggest mantra.
So basically the opposite of follow everything that Dave Richards.
Right, right. Exactly. Yeah. Literally the opposite.
Perfect. Like I knew all along, you're a dummy. You have no idea what you're talking about. And,
uh, no, I'm just kidding. I'm teasing. Um, all right. Philosophical difference between the two
of us, but still I'm sad that you're going and you'll be missed. And now it's time for me to let you know that I tried Seattle hot dogs again. And this time I had it time that I prepare hot dogs at home, I'm going to make them Seattle style.
So here's the recipe.
Grill a hot dog, toast your bun, put some cream cheese on the bun, grill some onions, put butter and salt and pepper on the onions as they're cooking.
Let them get nice and tender.
Put the onions on the hot dog, hot dog in the bun, of course, and then put just
to taste how much hot sauce you want.
If you want crazy heat, go crazy.
And if you want just a little, just a few drops.
But I believe that it's having something hot that made the hot dog really be great.
So the cream cheese goes on the outside of the hot dog bun, right?
Yep.
Okay.
No. And the hot dog bun, right? Yep. Okay. No.
And the hot dog is horizontally laid across the bun.
Right.
You chop it up into pieces, and you slather each piece with cream cheese.
Okay, that makes sense.
Let's do some fantasy cops from, oh, I don't have a name here,
from a small town in West Kentucky.
Who is it, Dave? Percy. Percy, from a small town in West Kentucky. Who is it, Dave?
Percy.
Percy from?
A small town in West Kentucky.
Yeah, okay.
Last night, we had our live draft.
Today, our commissioner put all of our players
into our rosters.
The last skill player he drafted was Artavis Pierce,
but that player was not available to put on a roster,
so he added James Robinson. About one o'clock, he sent us a message Oh, man.
Was it the very, very last pick of the draft?
It was his last pick.
It doesn't even matter.
To me, this is the easiest fan.
I'm going out with an easy one.
There's no chance the commissioner can just add him after the fact.
The player you picked at draft day was the player.
Everyone else gets a chance at him the news
can be updated you could have saw more information after the draft you had to draft on draft day
james robinson you didn't and you can't just add him to your roster because you know that that spot
was i understand the commissioner's thinking i can't get the guy that i actually drafted onto
my team but you you can't just add somebody that's going to be somebody that's clearly going to get bet on.
No, I agree.
I was just wondering, could it be a situation
where he had the last pick anyway,
and he took a player and just, oh, sorry, wrong.
Well, no, never mind.
No, it was Artavis Pierce who,
I don't know if he didn't make the Bears roster or something,
but he's not.
Right, he got cut.
He couldn't put him on his team.
So he just said, okay, I'll take James Robinson.
But time had passed. But what do you do? Like, what do you do then? Like, who do you even him on his team. So he just said, okay, I'll take James Robinson. But time had passed.
What do you do then?
Who do you even put on your team
if you cannot physically put Artavis Pierce on your team?
Well, why are you drafting somebody
if you can't put them on your team?
He didn't know.
He didn't know because he's looking for a Bears running back
with Montgomery Hurts.
So he didn't know that Pierce would not.
So was Pierce on his team or not?
He drafted him, and then he went to upload the rosters.
They did a live draft.
Then he went to upload the rosters and put all the players on,
and he could not put Artevis Pierce on.
But that doesn't mean you get to choose James Robinson.
What I would do is find somebody who certainly is just a placeholder.
Yeah.
Put him back in the league.
Everyone gets to bet on him.
The fantasy cops say so.
All right, let's do some emails to finish the show.
FantasyFootball at CBSi.com.
This is from James.
Dear Blanche, Rose, Dorothy, and Ma.
Schrager, you know that?
No.
Thank you for being...
Excuse me, Ben Gretch, what was that?
I was going to ask you if it's Golden Girls.
Of course it's the Golden Girls.
What's the age difference between Ben Gretch and Ben Schrager?
I just guessed. Sometimes I
feel like it's like two months, but I think it's like 10 years.
Schrager, how old are you? 23.
Yeah, 10 years. It's a decade.
Yeah, I guess that would make the difference between
knowing who the Golden Girls are.
It was 12 years before I was born.
The Golden Girls, I mean, it's not like
the Golden Girls were wildly popular when
I was born. Well, maybe they were, but not when I was growing up.
Okay, anyway.
Grade the trade.
Give up Dak Prescott and Cooper Cup.
Oh, actually, he said, I was offered this trade, and in a fit of disgust,
I told the man who proposed the trade to pack a bag full of sand, get into his car, and drive it straight to hell.
Maybe I'm overreacting, but here's the trade.
I give up Dak Prescott and Cooper Cup.
I get Matt Ryan, Debo Samuel, and J.K. Dobbins.
I have Mark Ingram.
No.
So he didn't make the trade?
Not only did he not make the trade,
he told the guy to go to hell.
Create the trade that didn't happen.
It wasn't great.
I don't think it's that awful. I don't think it's
sending him straight to hell with a bag full of sand,
but I mean, it's probably not a trade I'd make.
You should have given him six bags
of sand. Okay,
from Nick. My friend is the commission
in one of my leagues. He limited the
max amount of ads for the entire season
to 10 in a
year with potential COVID cases.
Max amount of trades is 5.
The rosters are already shallow.
Nick just wants us to
vent.
10 ad drops
all year. Definitely do more than
10 ad drops. That's ridiculous.
That's awful. Why do you have to have a limit
on ad drops?
Even if you are going to limit it, I agree with you ad drops i know but even if you are going to limit
it do that i agree with you dave entirely but even if you are going to do that even if you like that
idea a couple of things one this year they've stacked the buys more in case they have to
reschedule games that means that you're going to need to be able to be flexible on buy weeks
um to 10 is less than one per week one one transaction per week. I mean, like, this is crazy.
Okay, guys, rapid fire.
Finish these emails from Dave.
I have David Montgomery.
If he doesn't play, who's my best bet in week one?
I don't know the scoring.
Patterson, James Robinson, Latavius, Madison, Fournette.
Fournette.
I'm going Robinson.
It's an upside play for me, always.
From no name here.
Sorry about that.
I drafted A.J. Dillon in the 14th round.
PPR.
Should I drop him for Josh Kelly or Darrell Williams?
Kelly for me.
Kelly for me, too.
Andrew in Chicago.
12-team standard scoring league.
I give up D. up DK Metcalf,
Hayden Hurst,
Michael Gallup,
and Marlon Mack.
Metcalf, Hurst, Gallup, and Mack.
I get Kelsey,
Crowder, and Edmonds.
Ooh, I hate this trade.
I think I hate it.
I think I hate it too.
I'd want to run it through the trade chart
before I officially hate it.
I love getting Kelsey,
but yeah, that's a lot to
give up to get Kelsey. Yeah, Kelsey, you're getting
Crowder and Edmonds who in a standard
scoring league, you know, Crowder's not
I don't know. Yeah, for Metcalf, Hurst, Gallup
and Mack. Nope, don't do it. It probably
does work out in your favor on the trade
chart because you're getting an extra player.
Oh, no, you're giving you're not getting
an extra player. Never mind. Oh, I
don't know, Dave. I don't like it. I don't really love it either. You better have receiver depth if you're giving. You're not getting an extra player. Never mind. Oh, I don't know, Dave. I don't like it.
I don't really love it either.
You better have receiver depth
if you're giving up both Metcalf and Gallup.
But otherwise, I think,
I mean, those guys for Kelsey make some sense
and Hurst for Crowder and Edmonds.
Yeah, it's too much.
It's too much for Kelsey and Crowder.
Yeah.
From Dom in Prescott, Arizona.
Grade the trade.
10-team PPR.
Give up Kyler Murray,
Clyde Edwards-Elair, and James Con Kyler Murray, Clyde Edwards-Elair,
and James Conner.
Murray, Edwards-Elair, and Conner.
Get McCaffrey and Cam
Newton.
Anything for McCaffrey.
That's a lot. That's a lot.
That's tough.
I'm going to say C-.
I don't think I'd do it.
It's too much for McCcafree anybody gonna give a grade today or in a 10 team league i'll give it a i'll give it a b
i'm fine with it okay they should give it it's a deep enough league you can find replacements
ben you want to sign off you want to do the outro um i mean i i'm terrible i think yeah so is adam
that's why he's asking.
It's been a blast.
It has been an absolute blast.
Thank you guys for listening and all the feedback in the DMs
and in the emails and stuff.
I really appreciated it.
At yards per Gretsch does not rhyme with catch,
and we'll leave it at that.
Talk to you tomorrow, everybody.
See you.