Fantasy Football Today - Players We Keep Drafting, ADP on Other Sites, Travis Hunter Projection (08/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

If you missed our Draft-A-Thon, you missed a big Travis Hunter projection and some players that other analysts are very high on (4:00). We'll tell you about that at the top of the show as we get into Tetairoa McMillan, Ricky Pearsall, Matthew Golden, Bhayshul Tuten and more ... A preview of what to expect if you're drafting on other sites (18:00) and when to take Pearsall and Emeka Egbuka. Then we have some news and notes (24:40) as we update our Chiefs wide receivers rankings and talk about Kyren Williams and Najee Harris ... Who are the players we keep drafting (35:10)? We each give a bunch of names and let you know who you might want to put in your queue. Then we finish a review of ESPN and Yahoo ADP (59:00). Who are some of the good and bad values on those sites? ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, presented by that MGM, the sports book born in Vegas. And what's up, everybody? We've got a lot to talk about today after a long day of podcasting and being on CBS Sports Network yesterday. We had three shows. We had the draftathon from 5 to 8. Thank you to everyone who hung out for that.

It's available on YouTube if you want to catch up and watch it. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. We had, I would say a borderline bombshell dropped in the last 5 to 10 minutes of the show. Heath and Dave, do you even know what I'm talking about? that you that fruit salad is your favorite food at a barbecue what is that but no an extremely fantasy relevant bombshell dropped Jamie you know what I'm talking about yeah Pete Priscoe telling us what the role for Travis Hunter will be from what he is hearing Travis Hunter is going to be primarily more more on defense than offense going to be a starting cornerback and he said they're hoping

for 55 to 60 catches from Travis Hunter. this year. That's pretty interesting. Look, Pete is plugged in with the Jaguar, is plugged in with a lot of teams. He knows what he's talking about. Doesn't mean they're necessarily going to be right with those numbers, but that is what he heard,

and I take it pretty seriously. So, Jamie, did you change your rankings last night? I moved him down a couple spots. He was already, like, wide receiver 33, so I moved him behind Golden, and I moved him behind O'Donzing. So he's still somebody that I would take late round six. but with a little bit more trepidation, you know, so I still think that if he stands out offensively and based on what this team, I mean, look, they just traded for Tim Patrick.

Like, this receiving core needs him to be, you know, I don't think dominant, but needs him to be somewhat special. Honestly, what it should do, it should make you more excited about Brian Thomas Jr. He was already the sixth receiver for me. He was already the first round pick. I would take him ahead of Puka. I would take him ahead of Mara St. Brown. I would take him ahead of Drake London. like there's the same target share potentially coming his way

that we saw in those last six games which is basically 10 per game. Take him ahead of neighbors yet? I would not take him ahead of neighbors yet because I still think that the rest of the receivers, the receiving options for the Jaguars are still better than the rest of the receiving options

for the Giants. And I don't think Pete's estimation of the his projection of the stats, I think that's a little low. It was what he was told. It wasn't his. projection it was what he was told

someone else's projection of but no what he said was they're hoping for yeah and just just for reference Marvin Harrison Jr. in his rookie year caught 62 passes and yeah

and he was I don't think he was a top 40 receiver right so to put that maybe not per game like overall he was I don't remember how did James William's miss a game? Yes, I think so.

He got 58. Jordan Addison caught 63. James and Williams, yeah. Sorry. James and Williams got 58 in 15 games, so he missed two games. Okay. Okay. All right, some other takeaways from the Draftathon.

The analysts that we had on, not all of them, but many of them really love Teteroa McMillan and Ricky Pearsall. I think these were names that popped up a lot during the show. We're going to do teams that we, players that we draft a lot today. That's one of our topics. And I just looked at my teams. I think I only have one Ricky Pearsall team,

and it was the first team I drafted. It was the Scott Fish Bowl because the price has gotten so expensive for Ricky Pearsall, but ADP is not necessarily suggesting that. So I'm more optimistic that you all will be able to draft Ricky Pearsall and Tetero and McMillan. Actually, because the other topic today is, ADP on Yahoo and ESPN.

And also I kind of looked at the real-time fantasy pros kind of updated ADP. I still think we're getting very good values on Tetero McMillan and Ricky Piersaw and Ameca, Abuka, not happening in the drafts that we're doing, but I'm optimistic for all of you that you'll be able to get these guys without having to take them in round five. I think these guys that we all get really excited about the last month before the season and start racing to draft. And Keon Coleman probably fits into that, too. to a lower degree.

I told somebody that he went at the 6-7 turn in one of our drafts, and they're like, he's available after round 10 in every draft I'm in. What are you talking about? It's the exact opposite of the quarterback thing. I always talk about how you really shouldn't expect Jaden Daniels and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson to all be available in round three of your draft like they always are in hours. And you really probably shouldn't expect Ricky Pearsall to go in round five and Keon Coleman to go in round seven and Tett McMillan to go in three.

But they will in our drafts. What round someone, Sean is asking in the chat? What round should Ricky Pearsall go in? Six. I think I haven't been saying. I would take them in five, late round five. Yeah. Hopefully you don't have to, though.

ADP, it's tough. So where was he? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Dave, you say you would take him in round five. But if it's a normal person draft, not one of ours, and Tedd-Roe McMillan's there in round five. I'm taking McMillan first. Right, right.

So the way that I kind of configure my rankings is who do I like better? And the players that I like more, I'm going to put ahead of the players that I don't like. Garrett Wilson and Ricky Pearsall are back to back for me. Ricky Pearsall and Garrett Wilson are late round five picks for me. I'm not getting Garrett Wilson in late round five in any typical home league draft that I'm in this week. His ADP and CBS is round five. Is it? Because I had a friend reach out and say, I just had some.

somebody take Garrett Wilson in round three, and they looked at your rankings in WTF. And I had to, like, explain why I don't like Garrett Wilson. Well, and it doesn't mean that I'm going to, like I say, I'm going to take Tyler Warren in round eight in every league. That's a move that I'll do. But I'm always going to stay true to my rankings, and I'm always going to take the player that I've ranked the highest. And so, yeah, if Garrett Wilson and Pierce all are there together and it's round five,

and they're the best two receivers, and there's no one else I like, then I'm picking between those two guys. I think the thing, first off, because a lot of people are going to be drafting this weekend and haven't drafted yet, if you're looking at average draft position and there is a player that you want, screw average draft position and take the player that you want. So if you want Garrett Wilson in round three because you think he's going to have a breakout season, then you go get Garrett Wilson. If you want Ricky Pearsall on round five because you think he's going to have a breakout season,

then go get Ricky Pearson. You don't want to leave your draft with, I want to get this guy, but this piece of data says he's going in round seven. Every draft is different. Dave just gave an example of Garrett Wilson going in round three. The data says he's going in round five. We may not tell you to take him until round six. Like there's different things that are happening in every draft.

And there are so many drafts that are happening that average draft position is going to change dramatically over the next three or four days. So don't look at ADP as anything more than a range. The thing we'll tell you all the time is tier your players, tier your rankings, and wherever the cutoff is for you, make sure you get one of those guys in those tiers, if that's in that tier, if that's something that you really want.

But if there's a player you really want, I want Braylon Allen in all my drafts. His average draft position is like 120. I take him in round eight without fail. Okay. Because I want to leave my draft with Braylon Allen, and I don't want to look back on and say, I missed on my guy.

Dave's probably doing that the Keyon Coleman Coleman in all his drafts. Heath is doing it with the Andre Swift and all of his draft. Like there's players that you just have a feeling on that you think are going to do something special. And again, the later the better, clearly, because you have the opportunity to take them a little bit ahead of ADP, in some cases, maybe a lot ahead of ADP. But don't leave your draft if you have a feeling on a certain player and say, I can't believe I missed that guy because you know, one of those players could be Trevion Henderson too. And I'm just looking at his 24-hour ADP, and it's late round four. And that might be where I would take them, but I know that I'm the low guy on Treveon Henderson.

And we all love Treveon Henderson. That's an example of a guy that you would reach for because you just have a feeling on. But that's also an early round pick. I think the tougher thing is when do you buy into the mid to late round picks? Because as the draft is unfolding, like you're seeing your board, you know, you're seeing your players, you're seeing the rank list that you're following. I just phrase it that way because most people don't have their own rank list. But you're seeing the draft list that you're following and you're saying, okay, this player

that I want is 15 receivers away or 10 running backs away. Oh, I can't wait. Maybe you can't. Maybe you can't. You're right. And actually, I thought doing the podcast league draft on Tuesday night or Monday night, 14 team league, and I had the sixth pick, I think. And when you're in that spot, in a 14 team league, you really can't,

you can't really play the game of, well, I'll just wait until next round to get him. That actually makes you really put your feet to the fire and makes you really evaluate who you want on your team. And made me reach for Tyreek Hill, who I decided I really want on this team. But whatever. So, yeah, like go ahead. And if it feels like a reach, you know, just, who cares? Just do it. Hopefully not too early in the draft.

ADP can help you figure out, like, how early you might have to reach. But also this Dave keeps talking about, and I keep talking about this 24-hour ADP, it's fantasy. That's what you're talking about, the fantasy pros real-time ADP, Dave? Yes. It's a good tool. So just Google that. Just Google Fantasy pros, real-time ADP might help you.

And I'll tell you, in a second, I'll tell you some of the other, like, really good values that I've found on other websites. and just overall. But yeah, the Draftathon takeaway is the Travis Hunter note, which we talked about, the names that came up a lot as buzzy guys, breakout guys, were McMillan and Ricky Pearsall. And I said to Dave, like, no wide receiver ever gets 120 targets on the 49ers. Well, Joanne Jennings was actually on pace for 128 last year. Debo Samuel had 121 in 16 games in 2021.

It has happened. It's going to take some injuries probably. There already are injuries. So, you know, it could happen. I don't think you're going to get 140 target season, but you don't need that on the 49ers for a while. I had a lot of dispute on the segments I was on about Brock Bowers. We had some people that feel like I do about him

and some people who think Trey McBride's the tight end one. And we had plenty of dispute about Christian McAfee. And honestly, the McAfrey dispute, hearing from a number of analysts that I respect, it does make me think that I need to chill with Christian McCaffrey and if I'm on the clock in another draft and I have

McCaffrey and Barkley available to me I'm going to take Berkeley. I already took McCaffrey once and I'm going to I think a lot of our listeners like us play in five to 10 leagues. I mean I've got I'm going to have we have some of us have 20 plus but play in five to 10 leagues

and I think that's a good point to make especially with your first round pick you don't want to draft Christian McCaffrey over Saquan Barclay five times. Exactly. Like that is just setting yourself up for an absolutely miserable season. My 20 shares of C.D. Lamb out of 30 leagues is bad.

It might be. But yeah, I mixed it. Don't be afraid. I made that decision yesterday in the St. Jude draft is I had Brock Bowers on literally half of my teams. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and just take A Chan over him this time. But if you've had conviction

in Christian McCaffrey for say six months. I'd still And now a week before the season, you go, oh, you know what? I think next time I'm up, I'm going to take Sequin Barclay. I don't understand that. Okay. When I got conviction on a player, I understand what you guys are talking about, about diversifying the portfolio, you're playing a lot of fantasy leagues, that's fine.

But when I like a player enough to put them, I don't know, third overall. Yeah. It's not about the player. I would just, I would lean into it because if you're right, you're going to have an awesome season. But I do think, though, So, to Heath's point, if you play in multiple leagues, it's easy to do that. Most people, though, our audience might be different, but most people maybe play in two leagues, maybe at most three leagues. And so they could, you know, diversify in that situation.

But a lot of times, though, to Dave's point, like if you're sold on somebody and that's the main league, you know, like, Heath, I'll put your feet to the fire here. The St. Jude League is something we do as a donation. Right. you're not putting up any capital on your end before this. If this was your most expensive league, which were the two players you're taking? Forget about whatever drafts you've done before. I think it would depend on when you say most expensive. Like there's a lot of, I'll just use dollar amounts.

It's fine. There's a lot that are worth 50. And if this one's worth 500, then it's probably Brock Bowers. If it's 100, then I'm probably still doing the same thing. You've inspired me to do a Twitter poll, and maybe it'd be better if it was a YouTube poll because it would actually be people listening. But I am curious, like, what's the, how many leagues do most of the people who listen to us or follow us have? Well, I inspired myself first because about 15 seconds ago, I just put up a Twitter poll.

How many fantasy football leagues do you play in? One, two, three, or four or more. So we'll check in on that. Yeah, no, look, Dave, first of all, I'll retweet it. Christian McCaffrey is no longer third for me, Jemir Gibbs is. Christian McCaffrey would be probably fourth for me. and if I were in one draft, I would take McCaffrey over Barclay. But it's not like I hate Barclay.

It's not like I can't be successful with Barclay on my team. So McCaffrey's 29. It's the 29 thing still does bug me a little bit because before last year, 29 was a bad year for running backs. Last year changed everything with age. I get that. I still love McCaffrey. I still have conviction on him,

but I also want to get these other great players on my fantasy teams and not be too overweight on Christian McCaffrey. Okay, so just real quick stuff. Pete Priscoe has some concerns about R.J. Harvey and Basil Tutin in pass protection. And with Tutin, Prisko said he thought Tutin would be the starter. He said, quote, at least in my mind, if he were better picking up the blitz. That's always an issue with rookie running backs.

And Pete raved about Matthew Golden. We talked a lot about rookies yesterday with Pete, and he raved about Matthew Golden. And he said, of all the rookies he saw, that was the one that really stood out at wide receiver. So did Tom from the Packcast, who saw Golden practicing this summer and said that he just looked outstanding. So maybe you put a star next to his name in your drafts this weekend, too. Tom was a great guest, actually, really great guests. Tom Grosse. All right, hey, football fans, bring that playoff energy to your pro football bets all season long.

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The best values to me appear to be a couple of Broncos. Cortland Sutton, who is, I would say no earlier than wide receiver 25 in ADP, we have him 17th, I think, and RJ Harvey, who just, still, I mean, I say this all the time, still is seeming like a late round five pick, R.J. Harvey. We like that. Teteroa McMillan also a good value. And Jerry Judy, I mean, I'm seeing in the 80s in some leagues. So Jerry Judy seems like a very good value. And it is possible that Ricky Pearsall and Emeka Bucca are on that list. If we look at that

real-time ADP, because, like, Ricky Pearsall and EmekaBook are definitely good values based on Yahoo and ESPN ADP. What I don't know is how to the the recent drafts impact that ADP. But if we look at the real-time ADP, they're still not top 30 wide receivers. Pearsall is 35th. Abuka is 32nd. Dave and Jamie have both of those guys in their top 30.

Heath, you are actually lower than top 35 on Pearsall and Abuka. So we haven't really had that counter argument. Would you like to make that counter argument? I didn't really, like I know Chris Godwin's still not going to play in the early months. but I do think that when Chris Godwin is back and Mike Evans is there, Emeka Buka being a difference maker for your fantasy team is a really difficult path.

Now, he has the upside that if Chris Godwin comes back and suffers a re-injury or Chris Godwin's just not Chris Godwin anymore or Mike Evans falls off the age cliff, then it's great. But when you're talking strictly from a projection, I rank him higher than I project him, strictly from a projection, if you think you're getting 12 games of Chris Godwin, being Chris Godwin, and Mike Evans being there, then it's really hard for Abuka to be someone that really beats where his ADP is now. And I think, like you said, I had Pierce all outside the top 35, I might have him 36th. He's definitely higher than Abuka for me.

He's in that range. I just, it's still, even though I think Brock Purdy might set a career high in pass attempts, it's still a run. first offense, it's still, even if there's, if Joanne Jennings, I don't think anybody thinks he's going to miss the year, and George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey are still going to take probably 40% of the targets. So I'm, I feel less confident in being lower on Pierceol than Mbuka right now. I think what we're hoping for, and I would even put Xavier Worthy in this category now that Rice is out. With the people who are bullish on these guys are hoping for is that these players just nail their auditions, right? That they have, oh, I'd snap my fingers and I knocked

my camera out. All right. We'll fix that in a moment. You can hear me, right? You never look better. Yeah, we can hear you. This is the best screen we've ever had on you. Jamie's on mute. I have no camera. Jamie's got no mic. I said you're Thanos. What a great joke. I got ruined. I sort of get that joke. Yeah, I think we're hoping that they nail their auditions and they just keep that momentum going. Is that what it is? And Jamie, would you put worthy in that in that boat too now? Like, we've got a huge opportunity for big starts this season for Abuka, Worthy, and Pearsall, and then they just run with it.

I started to say that, well, I guess I didn't realize I was a mute that Scott Fish brought this up yesterday that he wanted to pair Ricky Pearsall with Rashi Rice. It's a great strategy, you know, if you want to sort of double up on two receivers that are going to be in that round five through seven range, that Pearsall can get you off, you know, to whatever start he does without Ayuk there for short is what it appears like, right? Is he officially on pop for the first six team? And then whatever happens, John Dennings. Four games, right?

Four games, right. And then Abuka with his, excuse me, with Godin, with his situation, you know, probably not playing for the first month, or at least not up to speed for the first month. So yes, this is, that's a great rice combination, you know, with either of those guys and obviously worthy if you want to, you know, double up on both chiefs. But I think in the case of where you're drafting them, you're not only hoping that you know, that they nail their audition, you are talking about guys coming off significant injuries. that the chance for re-injury is certainly possible there. So it's not only in the case of, you know, Heath is right. You know, Godwin, if he comes back as he's the same guy, then yes, Subuca is going to struggle for targets if Evans and Godwin are doing what they do.

That being said, Jalen McMillan, we don't know when he's going to be back at all, you know, dealing with his neck injury. So he should still remain on the field in all three receiver sets and potentially even two receiver sets that they just decide they want to really build up Godwin toward the end of the year. In the case of Pierceall, I don't see him coming off the field at all. you know so while they're going to be target share problems potentially and yes they don't typically have a high volume of past attempts in the kyle shanahan era i still think piercell could be the

leading target getter for this team not just while those guys are out but even when those guys are back to healthy all right let's take a break and um a little bit more on the chiefs when we come back including some wide receivers that you might want to pair with rishi rice or wide receivers that you might want to avoid if you draft rishu rice um we'll take a look at the youtube polls and the YouTube and Twitter polls. We do have this poll on YouTube about how many leagues people are in. And we'll be right back on fantasy football today. Summer's here. And you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. What do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well-groom lawn delivered, but you can get a chicken parmesan

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like Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Detroit, they have very good secondaries. Chargers should have a good defense, but also I think the opportunity for some high-scoring games. Anyway, Dave, well, let's get everybody here. Dave, Jamie Heath, wide receiver rankings.

Where's Worthy? Where's Rice? Worthy is still a number two fantasy wide receiver for me. Didn't really move him that much. I was high on him to begin with. Rishie Rice. I am drafting like a number three wide receiver. I'm really targeting that round five to six range.

Hopefully when I take them, I will already have two wide receivers on my team, and I will take one, if not two wide receivers in the three to four rounds after I take Rishi Rice. Jamie? I will take Rice in round six. I would take Worthy late round four. Again, you know,

Worthy could run away with this audition and be fantastic. And then we get both these receivers playing at a high, level. So I think you've got to build a little bit of risk with Rice just because, again, missing so much time and what his role will be coming back. The nice part about the suspension early in the year is you should be able to manage your roster at a good enough

level that by the time we get to the buy weeks that you know what you're dealing with here. And hopefully your team is in great shape and then you're getting this added piece back. There could be a significant difference maker and a league winner. Yeah, I've got worthy at wide receiver 19, pick 46. I've got Rice at

wide receiver 28 pick 59 so i think we're all in relatively similar range the thing i would say with rice is he is probably one of the more format dependent players um obviously he's more valuable in full ppr than he is in half or non because all of his catches are so close to the line of scrimmage but also if you have a shallower league 10 team league two wide receiver league he's more valuable because it's easier to replace him. If you're in a deeper starting lineup league, then you have to be a little bit more concerned because you have to start worse players while he's out. And then the bench depth is the opposite. Shorter benches, it's harder to hold a guy for six games that you can't put on IR. Deeper benches,

it's easier to hold a guy. So if you had a two wide receiver league with deeper benches, that might be his best format. So Heath, we did a draft yesterday. It was the Draftathon League, and you took Rice at the end of round five. I just kind of want to, like, if you could recall what was going through your mind when you did that and what your intentions might have been. I was, I think if you look on Twitter, especially Jacob Gibbs or the fantasy points guys, there's a lot of people making arguments for Rice at the four or five turn or definitely or in round four. and I when that happened I thought you know this might be the one chance that I have to take him at the five six turn I'd like to have Frasci Rice on one of my teams and it was it was an interesting build because the prior turn I had gone tight-end quarter-wreck I got Jaden Daniels and George Kittle so Rice was literally the second wide receiver you took yep and how many wide receivers you start in this league three three so who are your receivers I when pulling my team up now my receivers are bad um so i have nico collins i have jacobi meyers which i am perfectly fine

within that two three range in full pbr and i don't believe he's actually going to get traded i have you're the raiders joe russia rice i have juan jennings i have wandale robinson who i'll probably probably start week one right and i have lutherberg all right so listen i think you guys might be a little high on Rishi Rice just I wouldn't say that I think that you may not have to draft him as early because right now I'm looking at the real time ADP and he's going 77th so that's round seven and I'm looking at NFC ADP where wide receivers get pushed up and he's going 70th but he's wide receiver 36 and in the real time ADP and I'm sorry the NFC ADP is from yesterday and today the real time

ADP has him as wide receiver 34. So I don't think anyone has to should be drafting, or I shouldn't say should, but has to be drafting him as a top 30 wide receiver. All right, we got to move on. I'm sorry. I would say two receiver league is going to change some things. Three receiver leagues,

you might get him a little, you might have to take him a little bit sooner. Two receiver leagues, he might fall a little bit. And it's just really, I think, a matter of, you know, do you think you can get a Pierce-all-Abuca, you know, like Heath is high on Devo Sandwin, for example?

You know, I think you get those guys a little bit later, then you maybe pull the trigger a little sooner on Rice just because you know you're going to back them up for somebody that has a chance to start off to see the playing really well. If I have time later in the show, I'm going to go through some players who have good and bad matchups for the first six weeks, which is very subjective, and I

don't feel super confident in it. So that's why I'll save it to the end. But there's one guy do want to highlight, and it's Calvin Ridley. If you're not starting Rishi Rice for the first six weeks, you're probably not starting Calvin Ridley in week one. He's got the worst matchup. He's at Denver. He faces the Rams.

the Colts, who did add two members to their secondary, including Charverius Ward. Then he faces Houston. So in the first four games, he could be shadowed by Patrick Sertan. I don't think Derek Stingley is a shadower. I think he stays on one side, but it's possible that he'll follow Calvin Ridley. It's not a great start for Calvin Ridley. Plus, you have a rookie quarterback making his first, you know, six starts. So that's just one guy I wanted to highlight that maybe you don't want to pair with Rishie Rice.

But we'll try to talk about that a little bit later. Heath, you've been super high on Kyron Williams. We get a report to today or last night that Rams offensive coordinator, Mike LaFleur, says he wants to give Blake Corum more touches. He wants to keep everyone fresh, basically. Your thoughts? I have Kyron projected for basically two fewer touches per game than he's had the last two years. And that has him at RB8.

So I think it really depends. Like Blake Corum more touches than he had last year is an exceptionally low bar. And so how many more touches is? Is it? Are we talking about he's taking five touches away from Kyron Williams? I think that would probably be the max in my mind. And so it really just depends on two things. One, what's the number? Is it two or three touches more for quorum per game?

Is it five or six? And then the other is, does the fact that Kyron Williams is off the field for maybe 10% of the snaps that he wasn't last year, cause his efficiency to go back to where it was two years ago, which was much, much better than it was last year. There's a third factor. Where on the field is Blake Corum getting these touches? Are they really going to put Blake Corum in and short yardage goal line? Or even in the red zone?

No, not when they've got Kyron Williams, unless Kyron Williams starts fumbling again. And then that could be a problem. But I don't think that's going to happen. So this doesn't worry me at all. I'm not moving Kyron now. But is Blake Corum the obvious handcuff now? If it wasn't obvious already? Yes.

Okay. I don't know. I kind of like Jamie's theory. Well, handcuff and tandem are two different things. If Tyrone misses time, it's going to be Blake Corum. If they want to maybe get some juice on the field, then it's probably Jarquez Hunter to add a speed element or maybe a change of pace type of guy. That does not mean also that Hunter will play over Corum in some situations based on what LaFleur is saying. Like, we could still see Corum being that second guy.

I just think that Hunter's kind of locked into his role, and Corum could play multiple roles. Cade Otten could miss week one with a leg injury. They're at Atlanta. Even more targets for Abuka, maybe, and Mike Evans. Najee Harris did practice in pads. Should Amory and Hampton be a third round pick if Najee Harris is ready for week one?

Yes. I'm still in round four. okay the dolphin signed jeff wilson to their practice squad they do need some running back depth Marvin mims has a groin injury hopefully nothing serious the san francisco 49ers say they will not trade juan jennings and he has not been ruled out for week one at seattle the chief signed clyde edwards illair to the practice squad welcome welcome back clyde and jaden reed has a fairly serious foot injury it's pretty painful i guess but he's plans on playing through it he's beaten yeah I do not like that.

Me either. No. You saw what it was, right? Is a Jones fracture? And he's just going to play through it? Well, he says he's not listening to the timeline, I believe was the quote. He's going to beat the timeline. And the timeline for a Jones fracture could be a month plus.

So it's very difficult to, I think, count on Jaden Reed early in the season. Now, again, who knows how he's healing and at what point he suffered the injury? In fact, he's out of a walking boot. is obviously a good sign, but this just feels like it could be a disaster. Okay, let's take a look at the YouTube poll and Twitter poll. How many leagues are you in?

One, two, three, or four or more? On YouTube, not surprisingly, four or more has 42% of the vote. Three and two and one are pretty close, between 17 and 22% of the vote, but four or more, 42% of our audience. How about 62% of our audience are in at least three fantasy leagues on YouTube?

And it's almost identical on Twitter with 405 votes in 68% of our leagues. I'm sorry, 66% of our leagues of our listeners right now who have responded to this poll are in at least three fantasy leagues. 40% are in four or more. If you did not have this job, all of you, how many leagues would you play? Five-ish. Eight. I think four redraft and four dynasty sounds like a good number. I'd say three or four.

I'd probably be 10, yeah. That's a great question. We got mailbag coming up. I haven't decided when we were going to record it. No, tonight, let's go. I don't really want to do it tonight. Yeah, you do. I don't.

But I also, we'd like to free up Friday afternoon a little bit. So maybe we'll do it tonight. We've got it this night. Okay, all right. We can probably do it tonight. So let's talk about players we keep drafting. I asked you guys yesterday, briefly in the fill in the blank

who do you keep drafting but now we'll get some more names he if you have this always very nicely laid out in a spreadsheet and all that who's on who which players are on a lot of your teams and that spreadsheet does cause me to do things like not draft Brock Bowers yesterday so there's I'll give you kind of a top

two or three at each position there's two quarterbacks I have on more teams than any other deck Prescott and Justin Fields and Jalen Hertz is third gonna try to get Jaden Daniels up there in this last week of drafting uh two running backs ken walker and dandre swift and devon a chan's right behind them also will shippley because for as much concern as we have about sayquan barclay shipley is always the last handcuff to be taken it seems

so i've got tim in the final round of a lot of drafts at wide receiver no surprise that it's cooper cup and luther burden but nico collins is the best good wide receiver oh jerry judy i'm sorry jerry judy cooper cup luther burton nico collins and then it tied in it's just brockbowers okay jamie well start with Dave I'm too many leagues I do not have a spreadsheet on hand like Heath does

but I do know who I have on a lot of my teams the quarterback that I end up gravitating toward because it's such a value pick and I draft with you, Nudniks so of course he's available

is Jared Goff and I know Heath especially is worried about some serious scoring regression across the board for the Lions but I'm encouraging

by what I've heard out of training camp this year or this summer. Really, it has been the year because the offseason, there's been a lot of talk about James and Jamison Williams and Jemir Gibbs. Anyway, I think this line's offense is still going to put up a lot of points. Will it be as many as last year? No. But getting Jared Goff, I think I got him. Was it our pick by pick?

Or was it the draft we did yesterday where I got him with my last pick? He might not have even been drafted yesterday. And I took a guy to stash on IR and now I'll go pick up golf. Anyway, anyway, when I see Jared Goff after. like round nine, I start to get a little excited. And I don't necessarily like getting excited by Jared Gough, but here I am. And I think he can be pretty good in 2025.

I've drafted a lot of Devon A. Chan, especially after the injury because he's available in round two. So I'm buying that dip. I'm the only one on the show that really loves Alvin Camara. I'm okay taking him in round three in full PPR. So I have him on a number of my teams. I'm good with that. I've been drafting a lot of Jaguars running backs.

Earlier in the offseason, it was Tank Bigsby. More recently, it's been Travis E.TN. and Basial Tutin. I am trying to get Tutin in all of my drafts. I just don't want to reach for him. I don't want to get him in the round eight range. If it's round nine, I could handle that. You can find him in round 10 or later.

You don't have to take him in round nine. I mean, yeah, I feel like Tutin is available pretty late. Sure. I'm seeing him. I draft with other sharks. I know that they're going to be looking at... That's what I say. I correct me from wrong day,

but most of your draft so far have been analyst leagues, right? Right. So... Yeah, he's like 150. The first period are analyst leagues. I only have a couple of leagues. You people out there, please do not,

I do not think you should take Bachel Tutin in round nine. I mean, maybe I'll see him like an idiot, but I think you can get him in round 12. You might be able to get him in... Well, sure, that's what the ADP suggests. So if you can, you want to take that risk, go ahead. Also, he's a RB3 right now. That's a player that I don't mind

trying to just corral in as many. leagues as I can. If it's round nine, so be it, round 10 would be better. Yes, of course, if you can get them later, you should get it later. That goes for literally every human. But I think you can get them. I'm not saying that you should. I know that you can. Yes, you can. You might. Unless you're drafting it with me, then you won't. You have no shot. Okay, wide receiver. sticking with the Lions theme, Jameson Williams, picking him, him up a lot. Adam, you can say the exact same thing you just said. I'm comfortable taking Jameson as soon as late round four. It's crazy high.

But his ADP is going to be lower than that. I don't think it's as low as like, you know, the difference between where I'm taking Tutin and what Tutin's ADP is. But it's still somebody that I'm targeting in a lot of my drafts. Ricky Pearsall has been a rocket ship that I've been riding since the middle of the off season. Matthew Golden and Keon Coleman are two wide receivers that I'm certainly targeting in the middle rounds. You don't have to do that with Keon Coleman. You can wait until round 10 for Keon.

Coleman. And DeMario Douglas has started to enter the late round fray for me as well, just because he's kind of a safeish full PPR guy. And have you heard me talk about Tyler Warren at all? I said to Heath on FFT Dynasty because I took Tyler Warren third round in a startup rookie dynasty, tight end premium league. And Heath's like, this Dave, is Dave Richard like influencing you. And I said, you know, Dave Richard crushed it with Brock Bowers. last year. And once upon a time with Darren Waller, he's the late-round tight-end whisper. I feel like there was another one maybe in there.

So that did kind of the fact that you were so on Brock Bowers and now you're so on Tyler Warren, it does. And I don't even love Warren as much as I love Bowers. And I, like Warren, it was a tight-in premium league and Warren could be a great pick. As we went through that draft on FFT Dynasty, the fact that Sam LaPorta and Colston Loveland went two rounds later. Yeah, it was weird. Made it feel a little bit alarming.

Yeah, sure. But it's a dynasty league, right? Right. Yeah. So I kind of get it. If I don't get Tyler Warren, Tucker Kraft, who we've been talking about this since January, I still feel like he could be the number two target getter in Green Bay. And Heath, I know you love the efficiency that Kraft gave last year. So if he gets a target bump, he's going to be awesome.

Right. And you think about Christian Watson's out for a little while and Jaden Reed's got a Jones fracture. It could happen. All right. So for Heath, it was DAC, Fields, and Hertz. More so, DAC and Fields. He's going to try to draft some Jane Daniels. Ken Walker, DeAndre Swift, Devon, A. Chan, and Will Shipley.

Cooper Cup, Luther Burden, Nico Collins, Jerry Judy, Brock Bowers. For Dave, it was golf. A. Chan and Camara. The Jaguars running back, specifically Tutin. James and Williams, you're saying you take him in round four, late round four and the thing is I get that because you're almost certainly not going to get him

in late round six. Now his ADP Jameson Williams is close to the five six turn. So if you have a late round four, early round five pick and you feel like you're reaching for Jameson, you're really not because you're not, if that's your guy you're not getting him if you wait. Matthew Golden, Ricky Pearsall,

Keon, Coleman, DeMario Douglas, Tyler Warren, and Tucker Craft. Jamie, you ready? Yep. Okay. Quarterbacks would be Justin Fields and Drake May, take a lot of those two guys, Jordan Love as well. Running backs, I take a lot of Christian McCaffrey, so I'm with you, Adam. If he's there in the top five, I typically draft him a lot. The rookies, a lot of Trevionne Henderson, a lot of R.J. Harvey, starting to get a lot of Omerian Hampton, which I'm happy about.

So definitely looking at those three guys. I draft a lot of Jalen Warren, a lot of Zach Charbonnet, a lot of Jordan Mason, and a lot of Braylonne. Allen. Alan's probably my most rostered player at that position, just because I reach for him sooner than I need to, but I want to make sure I get him on most of my fantasy teams. Starting a lot of Dylan Samson, too. I want to see what's going to happen there with this Brown's backfield, especially as we're getting closer to week one and no Quintan Judkins. A lot of C.D. Lamb, just because if he gets anywhere for me from three on, I will take him probably too much exposure, but I like that a lot. And I'll ask you guys to think of this just because I did it in the draft yesterday with C.D. Lamb and George Pickens got Lamb in round one and Pickens mistakenly in round five and then on purpose in round six. If you like pairing those two receivers together in that offense. But a lot of C.D. Lamb, I take a lot, I draft a lot of Cortland Sun, a lot of Cortland Sun.

D.K. McCaff. I'm trying to think these are a lot of a mecca Buccah lately. very much in on a Mecca, Buka. A lot of Matthew Golden. And then later, a lot of still Darnal Mooney, just because he's cheap. A lot of DeMarro Douglas. He's on a lot of my teams.

Tight end. A lot of David Najoku and a lot of Tucker Kraft. Okay. I have a question if I can butt in at him. Yeah. Can I read the list again real quick? Yeah, sure. Especially the running backs, because that's where I'm going.

All right. Jamie says Fields and Drake May. Running back's McCaffrey early and then mid-round guys We're looking at Trayvion or early to mid-round. Trayvion, Henderson, R.J. Harvey, O'Marion, Hampton. And then Jalen Warren, Zach Charbonnet, Braylon Allen, Jordan Mason, that group there, and Dylan Sampson. I may have missed one, sorry. C.D. Lamb, Cortland, Sutton, D.K. Metcalfe, Emeka, Abuka, Matthew, Golden, Darnel Mooney, DeMario, Douglas,

David Najoku, and Tucker Kraft. That's Jamie's list. What's your question? So it's about that group of mid-to-late running backs, that Mason, Charbonne, Jalen, Warren, Dylan Sampson, you can kind of throw in there, although you can get them a little bit later, I think. How often have you taken multiples of those running backs in a hero RB build, meaning maybe McCaffrey is your first pick, you load up on receivers and other positions,

and then starting in round seven or eight, wherever you're getting those guys, you start picking off those running backs. How often have you done that? And how comfortable are you doing that, knowing that one of those four, let's say four running backs, we'll end up starting for you each one.

It was also Braylon Allen. So, yeah, throw Braylon Allen in there too, for sure. I've done that in like three or four drafts recently. One was our IDP draft where I started with Justin Jefferson and Puka Nakuwa. I ended up with Lamar Jefferick. I think I might, I don't know I took in round three. Jefferson, Nakuwa. I took Lamar Jackson in round four.

And I believe I took R.J. Harvey in round five. And so that was my first running back. My second running back that I drafted was, I think it might have been Charbonnet and then Echler and Ford. So, like, that's the group that I'm pulling from until somebody becomes a starter. I mentioned this other draft the other day where it was Jalen Warren was, you know, I went four rounds without a running back. DeAndre Swift was my first running back around five. and then Jalen Warren is the running back that I'm starting in week one.

So there's the IDP draft. And obviously you're comfortable. I took George Killal, I'm sorry. So it was Jefferson Round 1, Nakua, Round 2, Killow, Round 3, Lamar Jackson, round 4, R.J. Harvey, round 5. And then right now it would be Jerome Ford as the number two running back. So I think I have Braylon Allen or Charboning

one of the two on this team, if you scroll down. You have Alan Echler, Tootin, Ramandre Stevenson. Yep. You have some option. So you have a whole smorgas board of mediocre running backs. Yep. So it'll probably be Ford or Echler or Stevenson in week one. And then just kind of wait out to see what happens with Allen and Tutton, you know, trade or waiver wire options.

So it's, you know, again, when you get into those middle to late rounds, the only thing you should be looking for is upside. You could obviously have a different build and, you know, you're hoping for a play. player that's going to have a floor of, you know, a solid product. I'll give an example. Romeo Dobbs versus Cedric Tillman. The floor is dramatically safer for Romeo Dobbs. The ceiling, in my opinion, is dramatically higher for Cedric Tillman. So which of the two players do you think is going to most benefit your team?

Now, you can argue each side of it, you know, quarterback favor of Dobbs, injury situation right now in favor of Dobbs, all those things. But what's his most likely outcome? Wide receiver 40 maybe? Yeah. Like, Cedric Tillman may not be much higher, but the small sample size we have was pretty amazing. You know, so with this quarterback situation being what it is, his role in the offense, like, he could be awesome. You know, so again, it's, it's for somebody just, just posted in the chat, and I'm sure Dave would agree.

The floor for Cleo Shakir is much safer than Keon Coleman, much safer. The ceiling is much higher for Keon Coleman. Yeah. So when you start to get in those middle rounds of players, Again, your build will determine this, but just in a vacuum, uh, I think you're just, you should be shooting for upside as much as you possibly can. Okay. And do you recommend the, the hero R.B.

Is that like I don't, that's not my favorite way to go about building a team, but I don't hate it. And I especially like picking off those running backs, not just those guys, but also like in, in that range where you're drafting Tillman and Dobbs, man, I'm looking for running backs there two. I'm just looking for anybody that has, you know, a scintill. Yeah, I was just giving an example. I would say it's, it's more of a modified here, R.B, because I said this, I don't remember which show we've done so many. I want to leave round five with two running backs. So it does not mean take one early and wait until round five.

I would be fine with two in round five. If you tell me I have, you know, two stud receivers, tight end quarterback, and then we get to around five and six, or four and five, excuse me, however that bill gets there. You get to around. four and five and you tell me that I'm getting R.J. Harvey in round four and DeAndre Swift in round five, I am thrilled with that. Absolutely thrilled with it. Is it the most ideal situation? No. But if you tell me, I nailed my first three picks with start with that IDP league. If it goes Jefferson, Puka, Kittle, Harvey, and Swift, love that. Absolutely love that. And I would just like to add, like, you never go into a draft with one specific strategy that you must follow. But

it's not wrong to keep in mind that if you start with one running back, and you might have the intention of getting two with your first five picks, but someone falls and you can't help yourself. You can't resist a good value on draft A, and you shouldn't going with that hero RB build, especially with the running backs that you talked about, Jamie, and there might be a couple of other ones that I like to, the Jacksonville guys, for example, I think that's A. And you can have that RB2 spot as a weakish spot in your starting lineup and not feel bad about it. But to your point, just to give you another example, like, I would rather take a chance on

Zach Sharpernay than one of the Jaguars running backs. I know you're probably different than that. But, like, I would rather not deal with that mess. Well, I shouldn't say that. Like, Tooten later is a different story. But, like, the ETN Bigsby range of where you have to take those guys, I would rather take Charbonnet. And personally, I'd rather take Braylon out.

There's a guy that is not, is like in his own category. And it's Giovante Williams. And he fits in that range of draft, but he also is going to be the starter in week one and is going to have an opportunity, his competition. I mean, it seems like I have not read a single good thing about Miles Sanders. So we're really just looking at Jaden Blue as this rookie. He's got really good speed, by the way. Jaden Blue may have run, he ran one of the fastest 40s among running backs.

So that's exciting. But he hasn't been on the field that much. He's back now. He got hurt in their last season. He's hurt. Oh, he got hurt again. That's right. You got hurt again.

I don't know if it's going to cost him week one. But he's not at 100%. But Javante is interesting. It might depend on your roster build and how badly you need to start someone. in week one, you know, because you probably, I'm assuming you're going to rank Javante ahead of Charbonnet in week one. It doesn't mean, you're, oh, you're, right? So, you're, how does he, you're dead on with this?

How does he fit in? I feel like Javante is like a poor man's DeAndre Swift at this point, just because the competition for touches in the early part of the season is non-existent. I'm probably starting in week one in our podcast league, 14 team podcast league. I took Jalen Hertz and Brock Bowers, and so I'm week at RB2. And just to go back to Dave's point about, like, when you go into your draft, And again, this is a lot different for what you could update the poll.

Like if you have multiple leagues versus one league because your focus is a lot different on that draft. But if you have the opportunity to just play the board, you're going to either love the way it works out for you or you're going to hate it. I try to be as transparent as I can and I post a lot of my drafts on Twitter. And the two that I did this week, one was our podcast league. I don't remember. Two different builds. One was very running back heavy. one was very receiver heavy and killed on both of them i hate your running backs i hate your receivers

your team sucks you know it's just again i don't care you you have your opinion on what i did fine cool um you have to you have to be flexible you have to be flexible you know it's it's it's different in an auction because you can control what happens in a snake draft you're at the mercy of what is going to be available to we talk about this all the time what happens at the turns what happens in the middle you know you have the ability to sort of to dictate some of those things, depending on where you're picking. So, you know, I think you have to be flexible. You referenced the F50 Open League.

I never in a million years would have told you in June that a league that I'm playing out, I'm going to start running back, running back, running back. Two receiver league. And my first three picks were Jemir Gibbs, Bucky Irving, Jonathan Taylor. I was not passing up the value of those three guys. It's beautiful. All right. Since nobody asked, here are the players that I've been drafting a lot.

I haven't really had that many redraft leagues yet. Chris McAfree, Tyreek Hill. No, I don't have enough of those guys. I don't, you know, it just hasn't worked out. I do have... Isaiah Pacheco. Pacheco, yeah. I mean, I have some Gentie.

Hampton, Pacheco, James Cook. Caleb Johnson is someone that I've been drafting a lot. I've been thinking about this. Like, he might be too slow. He might just be slow and it's not good. But why can't he just be Naji Harris? And with where he's going, if you got the production of Naji Harris, you know, in the, like, the eighth round or whatever we're getting Caleb Johnson at,

I think that's a fine pick. And I'm hoping that he's a lot better than Najee Harris. So he's definitely not going to be their third downback. But if he can play first and second down, Aaron Rogers throws through his running back. Caleb Johnson can catch some passes. And if he can be their goal line guy and be their primary rusher, then I... A lot of is, man. There are a lot of ifs, but there are the same amount of ifs.

If you're going to keep drafting Jalen Warren, there are as many ifs for Jalen Warren as there are for Caleb Johnson. No. No, no, they're the opposite ifs, but Jalen Warren is the starter. Jalen Warren is definitely the past catching back. No, I don't agree with that. I'm not a hundred percent sure on that either. Probably, but Gainwell was used as the third downback in their last preseason game. Gainwell has had higher past blocking grades on PFF in each of the last three seasons.

I think you're right, Heath, but I don't know it for sure. Okay, Jalen Warren is going to lead the team. in targets at running. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I meant to say. Like it, I think that the big problem for me with Caleb Johnson being nausea is not doing what he did as a rusher. It's that part of the problem with Jalen Warren the last two or three years is that even

though he was the quote unquote past catching back, Jalen Warren still had 41, 36, 29 catches in a year. I think it's hard to project Caleb Johnson to do that with the way he's straight. struggling in the passing game right now. I'll just say this. I think they drafted Caleb Johnson so he could become their primary running back. His preseason wasn't great. I am trying not to overreact to his preseason.

I'm obviously concerned because he isn't fast and he looked slow. But I'm, you know, he was a good running back at Iowa. I think they're going to give him the opportunity. If he can take it, then I think he can pay off. And you would draft him ahead of Jalen Warren, correct? I would in all formats. I think, I just don't know. Good news for you, by the way, with one of the guys you like.

Oh, who? Just got news that Mike Big Daniel said Tyree Kill will be ready for a week one. Of course he will be. Jerry Judy is on too many of my teams. It's getting very nervous. But I have a lot of Jerry. Because, like, if they go to Gabriel or Sanders, I think it's going to be bad for Judy. And also, I just, I know that Joe Flacco has been really, really good and really productive.

He's still Joe Flacco. And I don't know. I don't want to have too many browns on my team. I think if they run the Dylan Gabriel offense that we saw in the preseason game, like there's going to be a lot of catches for Jerry Judy. And probably for the other team, too. And it's not like you're spending even a fifth round pick on Jerry Judy. You're drafting in round six or round seven every time.

It's true. It's true. You know what? Look, I'm just going to embrace it. And I'm all like, let's go, Heath. Jerry Judy, you've been talking about it. Here's a trivia question for you. How many receivers last year had 90 plus catches? 12.

That's a lot. I kind of like six is the answer. I'm going to just stuck with 12. It was 11. 11. 11. He was one of them. Judy was the 11th at 90.

Who had like 7? Who had the few weeks of six? What did you say? Who had the few is receiving yards of those 11? Is it Judy? No. It was very drastic who it was. Wondale Robinson.

Oh, Wondale. Wondale. Oh my gosh. He had like 90-something catches for 300 yards. He had 40-something catches for 699. All right, Christian Kirk's on a lot of my teams, and surprisingly, T.J. Hawkinson is on two of my teams, which counts as a lot right now. I wanted to mention one thing real quick in Superflex. I took Cam Ward as my QB2 in Superflex. I think if you want to pair him with someone, I think Joe Flacco, who nobody wants in Superflex for obvious reasons, is not bad to pair Cam Ward with because Cam Ward has Denver in week one. He could get off, we're not starting him there. Joe Flacco starts with Cincinnati, and then he's at Baltimore. Baltimore's got a super talented secondary, but you have,

have to throw against them a lot. So I think they're a good pairing. I mean, that's kind of a weird random thing, but just wanted to bring it up. We never talk about that. All right, drafting on ESPN and Yahoo. Did I take the second break? I did, right? I don't remember one. I don't remember one either. I don't think I did. All right, I'm sorry. Let's take our second break real quick and come back. I'll give you the ESPN and Yahoo values that you need to know about after this. With MX Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject

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Eligibility restrictions apply. See Golden Nuggett Casino.com for details. Please play responsibly. All right. So Cortland Sutton, RJ Harvey, Tedderoa McMillan are three guys that I think really stand out as great values on ESPN and Yahoo.

And even on CBS for Sutton and Harvey, I don't know about for McMillan. Okay. On ESPN, some guys that I think are going a little bit earlier than I usually see Jonathan Taylor tied with Brian Thomas Jr. on ESPN, 19th overall. He's also going 19th overall on Yahoo. So Taylor maybe is just, I'm not used to seeing him go in the middle of round two, but it was the fact that he was going basically the same ADP as Brian Thomas Jr. surprised me. Would we all take BTJ over Jonathan Taylor? Yes. Yep. In PPR, yes. What about in half PPR? Probably still yes, but in non-PPR, it's easy to go with Taylor. On ESPN, Justin Herbert is QB11, which surprised me. And ESPN and Yahoo, I am assuming, are defaulting to four point per passing touchdown league.

This doesn't mean every league is, but that's probably more normal than not for them. Who's going lower than normal, like later than normal, sorry? Mid-round-wide receivers, I would say, are going later than on CBS than they are, later on ESPN than they are on CBS. but Justin Fields on ESPN is QB 14. Chase Brown is going 26th overall. Kairn Williams is going 31st overall. Amarian Hampton, 41st overall.

Trayvion Henderson, 50th overall. So good running back value. Tony Pollard, RB 25. He's going 78th overall. And R.J. Harvey is RB 26. He's going 82nd overall. So I think the running back value on ESPN is very good. Chase Brown,

William's, Hampton, Henderson, Pollard and Harvey in particular. Wide receivers, Drake, London, 22nd overall. I mean, in recent drafts, don't be surprised to see London going in the top 15. Mike Evans is wide receiver 17, but he's six spots after wide receiver 16. So, JSN's wide receiver 16 at 39. Evans is 45th. Cortland Sutton, 63rd, George Pickens, 73rd. Again, it's not so much that, like, Pickens, James, and Williams, it's not so much

that they're going earlier at the position, and Tetero and McMillan, too, than they are on CBS, I'm sorry, later at the position, they're going later in drafts. So wide receiver 28, right receiver 30, wide receiver 33,

that's Pickens, Jamo, and McMillan. It's pretty much what they are in ADP on CBS, but it's just later in the draft. Ameca, Abuka, and Ricky Pirsall, I've talked enough about them.

On Yahoo, Nico Collins is ninth, and Nico Collins is a guy that where's he on CBS these days? Still like 13-ish? I think ESPN. Nineth overall,

ninth receiver. Ninth overall. Sorry. He is, I believe, there for me. Yeah, but ADP on CBS. He is going 16.1

on CBS. Yeah, on Yahoo, he's going ninth, Nico Collins. On ESPN, I think he's going 12th, 16th on CBS.

So Yahoo's got him ninth. We like him quite a bit. I have a ninth. Yeah, ninth overall, not a receiver. George Kittles 31st, that's a little earlier than normal. Sam Leporta, Mark Andrews, their 50th and 63rd. I think there's a theme that we are not drafting tight ends in rounds five and six, basically, and a lot of people are.

Caleb Johnson on Yahoo is going 18 picks ahead of Jalen Warren. I do like Caleb Johnson better than Jalen Warren. I don't like him 18 picks better than Jalen Warren. Who on Yahoo is going later than normal? Brock Bowers is 22nd, a little bit later. Chase Brown is 24th. So on ESPN and Yahoo, if you have the first pick, second pick, you might be getting Chase Brown in rounds two or three.

Would you pair him with Jamar Chase or would you hesitate on that? No hesitation. No hesitation. Did get a question yesterday about T. Higgins and Jamar Chase, and I would not do that. I did get an email from someone who took Chase, Brown, Jay, sorry,

Jamar Chase, Chase, Chase Brown, T. Higgins, and Joe Burrow with four picks in a

10 team league. So that's pretty cool. Like, you have, that's kind of, to me, like taking Christian McAfree

with a top five pick. Like, it's possible that taking those four bingles with your first four picks just wends you

the league. And it's possible that Joe Burrow gets hurt and it runs your, yeah. Yeah. But it's different with four players

compared to one. it's so fun i really am going to try to do it in the auction that i'm in uh what else uh sorry yahoo good information to have yeah i know some people in the auction are listening to this right now corlin sutton is wide receiver 25 is going 60 second travion henderson is going pretty late in yahoo uh he's back to back with pacheco he's ahead of d'andre swift d'andre swift is going 70th but that's full here yeah i'm pretty sure I think ESPN's full and Yahoo's half. Okay.

Because there's more met. I think I thought I toggle to full, but I could be wrong. No, I think you're right, Heath, half. Okay. Trayvon Henderson, 63rd, Pacheco 64th, Swift 70th. Teteroa McMillan is wide receiver 30, but Tetero and McMillan's going after Zay Flowers, after Jalen Waddle, after James and Williams.

I know you guys would take Tettoroa McMill ahead ahead of at least Flowers and Waddle, right? Oh, way ahead. Yeah. way ahead and jerry judy is wide receiver 35 going 93rd overall on yahoo after chris olivate after romo dunzee and then after judy at wide receiver 35 we have abuka and pierceau at 36 and 37 and there's one quarterback that's got very good value in yahoo a dp it's keiler murray he's going 12th okay fun show anything anything you guys want to leave us with let's wait i've one one last segment ready look at the first four rounds of the draft we did in Draftathon. Give me your favorite build and why?

I can't read that. You gave me Rashi Rice in round four? So that must have been an auto pick. Well, maybe the first three rounds. I love Team two. Team two is really good. Team two is he. He took Bejohn, McBride, T. Higgins, Ken Walker.

It's pretty salt. Can I get it? So it's just the... You can go ahead and just say that Jerry Judy's on that team, too? Most likely. My build was McCaffrey, Chase Brown, Josh Allen, and that I definitely did not take Brissau. That was an auto pick.

Team 10 is great. Team 10 is Amon Ross St. Brown, Derek Henry, Jaden Daniels. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Then I'm looking, Team 9. Oh, Team, yeah, okay, Team 9. Team 9 was the audience team. Nico Collins, Brock Bowers, Trayvion Henderson, Joe Burrow. You're only showing 11 of the 12 teams.

Sorry, let's get to Team 12 then. there they are I like the first three picks Paul's pretty solid until round four right neighbors A-chan Kittle and then McCloren in round four who Heath would like that pick right I think that's right where I have them

that should have been Evans go neighbors A-chan Kittle Evans yep love that I do like that better all right everybody I like Schaefer's team and then three wide receivers I've got one last thing

finish up with, Adam. Okay. Because we talked about last year, my parents got into fantasy football for the first time ever. Nice. And they were the highest, highest scoring team through the first four weeks of the season and started O'N4. Um, had a very, very disappointing team, uh, our season. So last night they drafted, drafted a very good starting lineup, but they ended up with too many wide receivers on the bench and it's a running back heavy league, 10 team league. So Braylin Allen's available on the waiver wire. Dylan Samson's available on the waiver wire.

Most of the backup running backs that we like, Jerome Ford's out there, Ray Davis is out there, they have DeMario Douglas and Cedric Tillman on their bench. Yeah, get rid of those guys. The reason I bring that up is to highlight to people, and we've talked about this before, when you have enough wide receivers on your team, when you get to round 11, that you can just pound handcuff running backs. That's what you want your last four picks to be is those types of guys.

So I'm going to tell them to drop to Mario Douglas for Braylon Allen. I haven't decided. Tell them to drop Tillman for Samson, too, because there's more upside long term for Samson than there is for Tillman. Who are there running backs? Starting running backs? Yeah.

Ashton Gentie, D'Andre Swift, of course. And then they have Zach Sharman. A and Tank Bigsby and Rico Dowdell. Oh, I think I'll drop Dowdell, too. Yeah. I'd rather have Douglas and Tillman than Dowdell. Yeah. So we're going to drop Douglas and Dowdell and pick up Alan and Samson.

Well, Tillman and Dowdell, but yeah. And I'm going to tell my parents what fantasy football is. And we'll see how that's received. The good thing is your dad won't answer, so he's easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I think he knows what a podcast is. All right, we will talk to you all tomorrow. Does he know what you are?

Yeah. If someone said, hey, Ron, what does your son do for a living? I don't know that what he would say. He'd be in the ballpark. I'd say that for both of his sons. Yeah, he'd be, no, he knows that. He'd be in the ballpark. He'd be like, one of them used to be on Nickelodeon.

He talks a lot. The other eats a lot of Greek yogurt. Oh, I got to get back on that train. I got to lose some weight, guys, before football season. You have to 160? I don't even want, I'm too afraid to step on a scale. All right. See you later, everybody.

Talk to you, hopefully, tonight. Bye.