Fantasy Football Today - Players We Keep Drafting; K and DST Talk; Superflex Draft! (08/29 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Let's take a look at some recent draft trends (2:10)! Who is be drafted earlier in recent drafts: Jahmyr Gibbs or Drake London? Cooper Kupp or Deebo Samuel? Christian Watson or Keenan Allen? Then we've got your news and notes (9:05) with thoughts on Russell Wilson, Jacoby Brissett and more. Does Samaje Perine hurt Isiah Pacheco's stock? ... Which players do we keep drafting? Our guys have drafted well over a dozen teams each and they'll tell you who keeps ending up on their squads. Dave (24:00), Jamey (32:30) and Heath (42:00) reveal their lists with guys like Ken Walker, Chase Brown, Kyler Murray and Trey McBride ... How to plan for bye weeks (50:00), how to draft Kickers and DSTs and we review our Superflex league (56:55) with Thomas going Zero-QB! ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Well, we've reached the one week mark. Yeah. Thursday, it's Chiefs and Ravens. We're getting pumped. Biggest weekend of the year for fantasy drafts, so we're going to continue to get you ready for that. When we get to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

we'll still help with draft stuff because I know people are drafting next week. We all have drafts early next week, but we'll start talking a little bit about week one as well. We welcome you to Fantasy Football Today, presented by Bet MGM, the sports book born in Vegas, Heath,

a one week out prediction for week one. Who do you got Ravens or chiefs? Um, you know, I think that the it's, you know, it's week one. So probably going to be Ravens 35 chiefs,

31. Okay. And then let the, what's, what's wrong with Patrick Mahomes? Are the chiefs done? The dynasty's 31. Okay. And then let the, what's, what's wrong with Patrick Mahomes? Are the chiefs done? The dynasty is over. Yes.

The dynasty will be over. Um, they probably lose to the Bengals in week two as well. And then when 17 straight. Okay. So let me, we got a lot of stuff today. This is smorgasbord fantasy smorgasbord.

We're going to tell you the players that we keep drafting players players that are on the most rosters for Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Russell Wilson and Jacoby Brissett have been named as starters. Updates on Brandon Ayuk and Jamar Chase. Updates on Trent Williams. I'm going to try to get to players that we don't talk enough about. And if we have time at the end of the show, we will talk about our podcast league team, which is a 14, to give a little 14 team league advice and our super flex league that we did yesterday at 12 team super flex draft. Let's start with this.

NFC ADP over the last four days. This is more than 80 drafts. Whose ADP is higher? You guys give me a quick answer and then tell me what it should be. Whose ADP is higher over the last four days on NFC? Jameer Gibbs or Drake London?

I'll say Gibbs. Gibbs. Yeah, it is Gibbs. I think last time we did this segment, it was like a week and a half ago or something, it was London.

And I was flipping out. Like, how could this be? I think it was these two, but it is Jameer Gibbs. And he's back. He's like a one-two turn guy in wide receiver heavy leagues. Okay. Cooper Cup or Debo Samuel, whose ADP is higher?

Debo. Debo. Tyshawn Samuel Sr. You are incorrect. It's Cup? Yeah. Who should be going first, Cup or Samuel? Samuel. Debo. Debo. I don't think, Cup or Samuel? Samuel.

I don't think I've ever called him Samuel. Who's ADP is here? Rishi Rice or Brandon Ayuk? Ayuk. How many days? Last four days. 81 drafts, I think. Yeah, I would say Rishi Rice.

Would you say Heath? Ayuk. Heath wins! Who should it be, Ayuk or Rice? Rice. Rice. Would you say Heath? Ayuk. Heath wins! Who should it be, Ayuk or Rice? Rice. Rice. Rice, Jamie?

Rice, yes. Did he say Ayuk or Ayuk 2? Is that a Fantasy Feud reference? Yeah, putz. No, wrong. We'll revisit that in a moment. No, you are a putz. Well, not wrong. Again, you saying a putz. It's not wrong. Again, you saying wrong when we are correct.

For this? For what happened yesterday? Yes. Oh, wow. I feel a strong conviction that I'm in the right. Okay. Whose ADP is higher last four days? Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid? Haven't you ever seen a Russian judge at a Russian Olympics? Come on. Mark Andrews or Dalton Kincaid? Kincaid.

When has there been a russian olympics um like eight years ago kinkade who is it kinkade who mark andrews andrews i don't think you'd be asking that if it was andrews back to back it's kinkade strange is there justification for that guys car accident i guess for Andrews, people concerned that he's hurt? Maybe. Maybe people waking up to the fact that there's not any sure good wide receivers on the Bills and thinking Dalton Kincaid might just see 140 targets. Who gets more targets, Andrews or Kincaid?

Kincaid. Okay, then I'd say it's justifiable um we don't have it that way right we all have answers ahead of kincaid i do yes yeah uh they're very close for me but yes who's going first in the last four days christian watson or keenan allen what's what's it i don't think you'd be asking this if it were allen get out of get out of your own head. Yeah. Fine, I'm not answering. Dave's right. It is Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen is going ahead of Christian Watson.

Who would you guys take? Watson. Zemir White or Javante Williams? Who's going ahead in the last four days? I'm going to use the same strategy I've been using all along. You wouldn't ask that if it were Zemir, so I'll say Javante.

Jamie says Zamir White's going first. Dave says Javante. Heath, what do you say? Javante. It is Zamir White. Jamie for the win. Who should go first, Zamir White or Javante Williams? Zamir White.

Javante. Javante, how many times have the Olympics beenics been in russia during dave's life in russia well there was the one year sochi right right is that how you pronounce it or did i botch that sushi sushi sushi no i think it's sochi i think you're right yeah it's right. Now I know what I want for lunch. It was also in 1980. Any other times, Heath? Go ahead. Was I born in 1980? Yes. Okay. So twice in my life.

You looked exactly the same in 1980 probably, don't you? I don't think it was. No, wait. 1980 was in, was winter. Lake Placid was the winter. Yeah. Summer was in Moscow. Okay. All right. Moving on. Jordan Love or Jaden Daniels? Who was being drafted first? Lady was in winter. Lake Placid was in winter. Yeah. Summer was in Moscow. Okay.

All right. Moving on. Jordan Love or Jaden Daniels? Who was being drafted first? Jordan Love or Jaden Daniels? Jordan Love. That's Love. It's Love.

Love, love, love. It is Love. And who would you guys take first? Daniels. Daniels. Love. Derek Henry or Isaiah Pacheco? Who's going first?

Ooh. Pacheco. Pacheco. P's going first? Ooh. Pacheco. Pacheco. I will say Pacheco as well. Three wrong answers. Derek Henry is going first. Who should go first? Is this Samajay Piran?

Oh, no. Who should go first, Pacheco or Henry? Pacheco. Pacheco. I still have Pacheco two spots higher than Henry. We do have to talk about that, though. Samajay Piran going to the Kansas City Chiefs. What might it mean for Isaiah Pacheco two spots higher than Henry. We do have to talk about that, though. Samash AP Ryan going to the Kansas City Chiefs. What might it mean for Isaiah Pacheco?

A few things I want to promote real quick. Jamie's doing a mock draft Friday at noon Eastern. That's tomorrow. Noon Eastern. If you want in, this is one of the last things you can get on tinyurl.com slash draftathon2024 to support St. Jude. So we have some spots left. It's, what, I think $502024 to support St. Jude. So we have some spots left. It's what, I think $50.

All goes to St. Jude. The draftathon has been a huge success the whole month. We are now over about $105,000. Unbelievable. Yeah. We had over $30,000 in donations yesterday. So big thanks to several people who donated $10,000, including Todd Rones, who was on the episode

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Mailbag, we got the Saturday mailbag. We usually record it Friday afternoon. We're recording it tonight, Thursday night at 9 p.m. Eastern. Me, Jamie and Dan. So if you want to watch that live, 9 p.m. Eastern, youtube.com slash fantasy football today. I wanted to do kind of a mini staycation with my family. Oh, you're the one. I'm no longer doing that. But Dan is not supposed to work on Fridays, so he always does that for us anyway, so I figured we'd give him the Friday off. And regular season programming, we've got episodes.

Monday is Beyond the Box score. Tuesday, Waver Wire. Wednesday is more or less a trade show. Buy low, sell high, that kind of stuff, and any other things that we want to discuss. Thursday, starter sit for the AFC games. Friday, starter sit for the NFC games. You will not find more in-depth start sit advice than what you're going to get on this show.

Saturday is mailbag. We record it on Friday. Sunday night, we recap the action. Sunday morning, you're going to get on this show. Saturday is mailbag. We recorded on Friday, Sunday night. We recap the action Sunday morning. We're going to give you like a eight minute episode with starts and sits based on the latest injury news. So your, your league is not done after your draft.

Stick with fantasy football today. We've got you covered. Let's go to the news and notes here. Russell Wilson is Pittsburgh starting quarterback. And he was per game last year, 14th in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, 13th in six-point. Russell Wilson basically scored the same amount

of fantasy points per game as Jared Goff. Does anyone think he can... He has a better-than-50% chance of finishing as a top-15 quarterback, being fantasy-relevant most of the season? Russell Wilson. On a per-game basis, maybe, but at some point he's going to get benched

and field to play. That's the part I disagree with. Better than 50% is wrong, I think we can't say, because if we thought that, we would have him ranked as a top 15 quarterback. But I think better than as being accounted for by his ADP. And the reason I think that he's not going to get benched is Mike Tomlin doesn't

have losing seasons. There's not going to be a time where we're going to go to the young guy because we're out of it. He's benched quarterbacks before. Haven't they struggled each of the last two years and had strong finishes? That's true. In the case of last year,

he did replace his quarterback because there was struggles. I typically lean toward what Heath is saying, that it would have to be a disaster for Russ to get benched. I did the fantasy segment for HQ

on the news yesterday, and I was listening to Brian McFadden and Pete Prisco discussing this. And McFadden is a former Steeler who played for Mike Tomlin. And Pete said Fields was going to play because I think – correct me if I'm wrong. Their bye is week eight or nine, something like that? It is week eight, nine. Week nine.

So Pete's point was if they're sub 500 come the bye week, that Fields is going to play to close the season. So I think, and that makes sense. And McFadden's point was if he gets hurt is really the only way Russell will come out because of exactly what he said. He's obviously a Tomlin guy. So I think you just have to understand that if you're taking russell wilson in a super flexor two quarterback because nobody's drafting him into one quarterback you may pick him up at some point early in the season just understand that you probably should

you know dip your toe in the third quarterback pool very quickly to get yourself somebody else and it might not be a bad idea and thomas can probably speak to this of trying to get both those guys thomas was sniped by dan, of trying to get both those guys. Thomas was sniped by Dan, I believe, trying to get Fields after Wilson. No, he took Fields ahead of Wilson. And then Dan took Wilson. I guess so. This is the strangest thing I've ever seen.

I was like, let's go look at the Steelers' schedule to see what their record might be. They don't play a division game before they're by. Yeah. The Falcons, the Broncos, the chargers, the Colts, the Cowboys,

the Raiders, the jets and the giants, all their division games start in week 11. They might be six and two. Let's finish up here with the, okay. So we've said, we've said our piece on that.

Someone asked in the chat, did Adam get hit in the side of the head with a softball? Because I have a big line in the side of my head. Because I was told to do it yesterday. I shaved a line in the side of my head for a $5,000 donation to St. Jude. So you can get off my back about that now. Was it $5,000 to shave a line in your head or $5,000 to shave your head?

I don't know. I shaved a line in my head. We got a $5,000 donation. That's all I know. Jacoby Brissett is New England's starting quarterback. He actually was solid in 2022 with Cleveland. Not really for fantasy, but he is... I don't know. Who's more likely to see the field first

as a starter? Justin Fields or Drake May? Drake. Okay. Brock Bowers has a foot injury, but Antonio Pierce, he's had a foot injury. But Antonio Pierce expects Brock Bowers, Raiders rookie tight end, to be ready for week one. Let's talk about the Niners and the Bengals. Brandon Ayuk has been medically cleared, but he's still not practicing.

So that means they can fine him now. He can't claim injury. He still did not practice yesterday. And Mike Garofalo of NFL Network said they're not close. The Niners are not close to an agreement with left tackle Trent Williams. It seemed like their comments indicated they were having, I think they said they were having good discussions with left tackle Trent Williams. But at this point, Heath, Brandon Iuke, I think we said we'd take Rice ahead of him, right?

Yeah, I don't know. I woke up this morning feeling more nervous about these situations than I have. It seems like maybe it's just gamesmanship, but it does seem like both situations have escalated a little bit with the 49ers' comments that he's going to have to play at some point. And Chase showing up for one day, the Bengals saying, we expect him at practice now.

And then he doesn't, he shows up the next day, 15 minutes late and street clothes. I'm back to, I've moved Jamar Chase back down to the ninth pick overall. And I've moved Brandon Ayuk to the end of round four. I did the exact same thing with Ayuk.

He's late round four at best. That situation, to me, that comment about he's got to play at some point kind of tells me that they're resigned to the fact that they're not trading them. They want to keep them maybe by choice or by force. Maybe they didn't get an offer that they liked. Oh, there might be a new team in the mix. Oh, yeah. I mean, the Browns just opened up a lot of salary caps.

They did. Yeah. They restructured Sean Watson's contract and opened up millions. Deshaun Watson got a $44 million check today. I can imagine that. Wow. So maybe he'll – he doesn't need to shave a line on his head or anything like that to get – No, no, no. I think he has probably people that do everything for him.

How much money has he made on a per start basis in Cleveland? I think I heard this morning that he has started one more game than he's been suspended since the suspension. All right, but let's move on here. That's right, if it's 12, because he was suspended for 11 games, I think. By the way, I'm okay with Chase. Let's see if it continues through the weekend that he doesn't practice, but he's been with them. He started a practice.

He's got two years left on his deal. So he doesn't have as much leverage as Iyuk would have. Here's the thing. If you're picking in the first round and you don't have picks one, two, or three, because I think it's safe to say Lamb is in the top three again. If you don't have picks one, two, or three, or you don't want to take one of the running backs, so let's just say you're past pick five, right?

There's concerns with Jefferson. There's concerns with Chase. Just take St. Brown. It's very easy if that's the way you want to go. Yeah. I have so much to Mark Chase. I wish I had a little more Amon Ross. I picture Heath always waking up like a happy person.

I wake up grumpy because I never sleep enough. Was it like wake up and like, hmm, like the light bulb over his head? Maybe he had a dream about it. You can chase. I don't know. Maybe he had his non-cereal breakfast, his sausage and eggs. Oh, I had some delicious.

My wife made these gluten-free muffins out of eggs and sausage. Oh, they were delicious. A muffin made out of egg and sausage. I need the rest. I cannot wait for basketball season to start, and Heath just to run the bleep out of my son. All right, listen. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use the bonus code FANTASY

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We got some really great promos. I hope everybody was able to see some on Twitter. If you didn't see it on YouTube, you can see it on Twitter. Follow the Fantasy Football Today account. Major flashbacks to when I worked out at Diamond Dallas Page's house with Jake the Snake. Ooh, name dropper. Yeah. I had never seen that before until right now, but it reminds me of that day.

Just because, gosh, I look like a dork. Whose glasses and the bandana. But it's legitimately how I dress up in the gym. What? Was your shirt tucked in? Uh, yeah. I don't think you saw belly. I mean, you saw belly, but I don't think you saw skin of belly. I'm going to give you three running back signings. We talked

about one of them. Thanks for making me feel self-conscious about my weight. Your shirt was tucked in. I'm never eating again. Your shirt was tucked in the workout. That's very formal. All right. I'm going to give, man. Your shirt was tucked in the workout. That's very formal. All right, I'm going to give you three running back signings. Tell me which one matters the most. Dalvin, I know we talked about Dalvin Cook yesterday,

but we'll do it again. Dalvin signing Dallas Cook. Cleveland re-signing Deontay Foreman. He's back after a brief goodbye. And the Chiefs signing Samaje Pirine. Heath, which one matters the most? I think it's likely that there is no answer because they don't matter. But I'll say I did not move anybody in the rankings because of them.

But I'll say potentially Dalvin Cook matters the most. Does anyone get concerned about Pacheco? Because it's really when McKinnon got hurt last year that Pacheco's season took off. He averaged something like five targets per game. He averaged five targets per game in four regular season games without Jarek McKinnon, which was basically double the amount of targets he was averaging with Jarek

McKinnon. So they bring in P. Ryan, an experienced third down guy. Is anybody downgrading Pacheco at all? No, but I think P. Ryan's definitely the number two running back there in Kansas City and worth a later-round pick. I'm passing on any other Chiefs running backs. That's probably the smart play deal, yes.

But if you are looking at who can have an impact, I don't think this is good for Carson Steele. I don't think this is good for the status of Clyde Edwards-Alaire. I mean, you've seen this with Andy Reid in Kansas City before, trying to be – he's been successful with it with McKinnon, bringing a guy who can play on passing downs and getting amazing production at times. And they've tried it with veteran guys before. I mean, they tried to resurrect Le'Veon Bell at one point. So he's got something.

I was reading a couple stories last night. Like, this was the smartest move of the non-factor moves that they've done this offseason. It's interesting. I look at it very much like the juju move. I don't think either one of them matter if everyone stays healthy, but they're great team-depth moves. Maybe if somebody gets hurt, they will matter.

Coaches trust them because they're experienced. They know what they're doing out there. It's a lot different than an undrafted rookie running back who's never been in a situation before where there are passing downs back but i do think that if something were to happen to pacheco we'd see a lot more of carson steel and not a lot more of samaj ap run and pacheco he became the feature back in week 10 of the 2022 season, a season and a half ago. Over his next 22 games, Pacheco scored more than 16.2 PPR fantasy points once. He always had this ceiling.

22 games, one time more than 16.2 PPR fantasy points. And then he eclipsed that number in five of his last eight games, including the postseason last year. And in three of the last four regular season games, Pacheco scored more than 21 fantasy points. So he was this like very solid, but definitely a number two running back for 22 games.

And then for eight games, he was unbelievable. So I'll just ask you, I guess, to finish off, should Isaiah Pacheco be a top 20 pick in fantasy drafts? Easily. I would take him then. Definitely a non and half. Very, very close in full. All right.

Washington signed Noah Brown. That's pretty interesting. So last two seasons, he's had an ADOT over 10 yards, and he's lined up all over the place he's definitely spent time in the slot he's worked out wide he's even been in motion before so he's got a speed element to his game last year 6.8 yards after catch per reception in houston and so i it's kind of sad when your team adds no Noah Brown and he might be the second best receiver on your team immediately. But that might be what's going on in Washington.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he had an opportunity to play sooner than later. Start throwing the deepest of full PPR leagues. Man, he had an eight out over 10 and he averaged 6.2 yards after the catch per reception. Whereas 6.8, unbelievable. Drake London averaged 2.7 yards after the catch per reception. Whereas 6.8, 6.8. Unbelievable. Drake London averaged 2.7 yards after the catch per reception. Okay. Uh,

Drake London or Noah Brown. Let's talk about the players that we keep drafting. Drake London. Wait, you know what? I'm sorry. Just real quick. If you were going to gamble on a number two receiver for Washington,

obviously in a deeper league, would it be Noah Brown or Deami Brown? It would be Zach Ertz. It would be Luke McCaffrey. Yeah. Okay. It'd be Pierre Garçon for me. Players, we keep drafting. You guys gave me a huge list of names, and I just want to point out one name that's not on any of your lists

is Devon Achan, 26th overall in CBS ADP. Jamie, when would you take Devon Achan? Middle of round three. Okay. That works for me. And I did take him once so far. I only gave you the players that I drafted three or more times. Fair enough.

That was out of 15 leagues as of Monday. I know Jamie's got more leagues since then. 28 since then. Double. And I only gave you the players I drafted Jamie's got more leagues since then. But yeah. 28 since then. Double digit. And I only gave you the players I drafted in four or more. Okay, good. Double digit drafts for all these guys who are players that they've drafted at least three times, let's say. Dave, three quarterbacks for you.

Jordan Love, Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy. And I don't feel great about Purdy right now just because of Brandon Ayuk and his situation there, but if I'm the type of drafter that wants to wait on quarterback and feel like a steal, I'm probably not going to get a lot of Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts, you know, the top four names. And so the ones that I end up going with are the ones that are available in the middle rounds, and that's usually been Love and Dak. And I feel a lot better about Dak now that CeeDee Lamb is there. And I like his floor.

It's actually a pretty high floor. I think it's around 24 fantasy points per game. That's what he had last year. That's what he had two years before last year. I guess that would be three years ago. And the year in between, once he was healthy, he was at 24 fantasy points per game. So there seems to be a number that fancy managers can feel good about with

Dak Prescott. I don't mind waiting around for him and getting him at a good value. Two years before last year is a very funny way to say three years ago, uh, Josh Jacobs and Ken Walker in round three for you, you take them and chase. And now I think I got to take them in round two, especially Jacobs.

I don't think it's coming out of the demand for Jacobs. And it's somebody that I really like, but not Walker in round round two right unless there's a massive running back run or if it's non-ppr i would be in on walker i do have walker ahead of a-chan in my rankings okay and then chase brown and chuba hubbard late for dave so let's go to some wide receivers yeah yeah no i was gonna take a screenshot of this list. Cause I am trying, we have our auction draft three hours and I wanted to know who to

nominate. So just, just getting a list. I'll get Jamie. I love these guys, but I'm not going to overpay for them in a, in an auction. Well,

Heath, if you subscribe to the theory of nominating players that you don't want, and you look at the players that Dave keeps drafting DK dk metcalf george pickens calvin ridley terry mclaurin chris godwin jayden reed josh palmer metcalf pickens ridley mclaurin godwin reed palmer uh who would you nominate because you don't want him you want dave to bid on him um yeah i i would probably nominate terry mcclurin um would be the guy um no i'd just nominate him for a dollar and let you guys bid him up like i i pickens on that list and probably ridley because i was really higher on him earlier in the summer

and then it just turns out we start drafting real teams and i've only got him like once um but pickens and ridley are probably the two guys that this last week of drafting, I'm going to make sure I get a little bit more of. Yes. You're going to buy the dip, right? If there's a dip.

Sure. I think with Pickens, there is. I don't think anymore as we get away from the trade. I don't know. He's always been one of the guys I've highlighted as one of those round five guys that, but he's fallen to round six. Okay. Yeah. That's always been one of the guys I've highlighted as one of those round five guys that... But he's fallen to round six.

Okay, that's insane. But round... I mean, I take Pickens in round four. I consider taking him in round three sometimes. I just, I don't really... I don't think Iyuk's going there, I guess. But I guess you gotta at least accept there's a possibility of that.

But let's say you knew for a fact that Brandon Iyuk were not going to be on the Steelers. When would you take Pickens? Round four. Right where I have him right now. For a fact, I might go round three. All right. I've got him as a round four guy.

Late round four. And then you got this range of four receivers, Ridley, Metcalf, sorry, Ridley, McLaurin, Godwin, Reed. So they're all round six picks, basically. So that's the area you're going to live in. Absolutely would love to get at least one of those guys. I'm fine with any one of them being a number two receiver. Where's Jordan?

Where's Jaden Reed going? Reed in round six is a bust. Yeah, I don't mind him in round six but when i get him in round seven i'm i'm thrilled i've said he's still going ahead of watson as a mistake i i disagree i think that he's going to end up being the better pick over the course of the season he's around seven picks sorry so these are around six only way he's better is if watson's hurt all right i know jay Dave Jane Reed is your guy. I kind of know the track record of Christian Watson.

Very true. Yeah. Okay. And then, well, yeah, you know what, guys? Give me a thought on Metcalf. He's one of the players I was going to have in our Players We Don't Talk Enough About segment. You're going to have to decide between Devante Smith,

DK Metcalf, Malik Neighbors. Who else is going around there? Iyuk, Jalen Waddell is going around there. I think we all like him better than Metcalf. Malik neighbors. Who else is going around there? Iuke Jalen Waddle is going around there. I know we like, I think we like all like him better than Metcalf. I don't know about Dave. Um, but, uh, I'll give you the first word, Dave, since you keep drafting DK Metcalf. I keep drafting DK Metcalf because I think his role is going to be a little bit different this year. We've seen him as a downfield perimeter receiver in Seattle. And I think they're just going to be more creative overall offensively.

And that'll include Metcalf. He has been lining up in the slot a little bit more. He might get some shorter targets this year. So maybe the ADOT comes down and that improves the efficiency. And he's been, what is it, Adam? It's been every year of his career. He's been top five and end zone. I think actually top four, but maybe top five and end zone targets.

I don't think that goes away. I think that he could have a setup for a massive year where he's getting more targets per game, shorter throws in general, making plays after the catch. We know he's fast and we know he's strong, so he could be put in positions to just make much, much better plays. I am bullish on DK Metcalf. He's a round three pick for me, and I have struggled with keeping him behind Malik neighbors. And I know that sounds a little silly. A lot of people look, ADP will tell you to take Metcalf out of neighbors, but I think that they both have huge upside based on athletic traits and target volume. And Metcalf is a guy I have him in round three. Also,

I also have zero DK Metcalf teams out of 15. I don't have him in dynasty out of nine dynasty managed rosters. And so I might have to try to find the problem is I had just draft Jalen Waddle and Mike Evans instead. And now rushy rice Metcalf last three seasons. He has been in full PPR. He has been wide receiver, 23 per game,

wide receiver, 22 per game and wide receiver, 23 per game. And he's being drafted a little bit ahead of that. And by the way, Dave, he and neighbors are back to back and NFC ADP over the last four days. Okay.

I don't believe that's the case on CBS. No, it's not even close, but that, but you know, neighbors is climbing up. Neighbors is climbing up. Neighbors is at 60.2. Yeah.

Oh, man. If you guys get him at 60.2 in your drafts, I think you are crushing it. Even Heath would do that. Jake Ferguson is a tight end that you draft a lot, and we can finish with that. When I whiff on tight ends, meaning I don't my hands on like the first five or six of them. I'm going to wait a little bit and get Ferguson. I don't like him in around seven. I've seen him going around seven in some of our drafts.

I like him better in round eight. And if I miss on him, the joke, who is the backup to that? So Ferguson and then the joke, who are the settle for tight ends? It is not a strategy to just wait for Ferguson and Njoku. I think you should be on the lookout for a better tight end on draft day, but if you've

got to reach for them over the course of your draft, I wouldn't do it. And in which case you just don't have a tight end. It's round eight. Ferguson's there around nine. Njoku's there. Take one of those guys. Let's take a look at Jamie's most drafted players at quarterback, Anthony Richardson, Kyler Murray, and Matthew Stafford is a name I wasn't expecting to see here. Richardson, Kyler, and Stafford, Jamie. I mean, Richardson obviously is shooting for the upside. Murray, I think is, you know, not far behind. They're both five and six in my ranking. So love the upside for both of these guys. And I think both can, you know, challenge to be top three quarterbacks, depending on an injury or something an injury or something just fantastic happening for them.

But the rushing ability is what you're banking on with those two guys. For Stafford, it's mostly 2QB and super flex leagues that I've been taking him, but he cracked the list of the top three of quarterbacks. But not a bad fallback option if you're taking a second quarterback. Matthew Stafford was a stud down the stretch last year. but not a bad fallback option, you know, if you're taking a second quarterback. Matthew Stafford was a stud, a stud down the stretch last year. I don't have time to pull up the numbers, but he was great.

Running back, okay, you've got a lot of Bucky Irving, your most rostered running back. That's funny. He is, yeah. Do you think that he's just a handcuff, or do you think he could take significant work from Rashad? Could he make Rashad White a bust? No. When you said the word significant, the answer was going to be no for me he's no he'll have work uh will he have significant work no five touches maybe per game if white is healthy but if white goes down i mean we saw in the preseason he looked good you know and that

was with backups and so we'll see how he does with backups and against backups but i do think that his skill set fits this offense i think that he think that he will prove to be a good pass catcher on the backfield based on what he did in Oregon. And the thing that concerns me is he's small. So will he be a featured guy? But looking at the depth on their roster, it feels as if they'll trust him. So more of a handcuff than anything else,

but a lottery ticket type of guy. Jamie, just like Dave, also has Ken, and Chase Brown and a lot of leagues. Now you have Jalen Warren and Rico Dowdle on this list. Zach Charbonnet and Tyrone Tracy. These guys are in four of your leagues or the, as of Monday, uh, Jalen Warren, Rico Dowdle, Zach Charbonnet, Tyrone Tracy, Warren and Dowdle. I could see going pretty close to each other. Who do you prefer? Warren and Dowdle, I could see going pretty close to each other. Who do you prefer?

Warren and Dowdle? Yeah. Oh, Warren's going to go ahead of Dowdle now. Yeah, but close. Why? Because of the Dalvin Cook thing? Yeah, I mean, that's going to scare people off. And look, Warren getting healthy also. Yeah.

Warren is falling because of the red tag next to his name, simply put. And he might play week one. He said he will be. He said he would have played in the preseason if it had been a regular season game. Charbonnet and Tracy, just pure handcuffs, you think, or have a role? Yes.

Brian Robinson. Charbonnet just become free. It's just so easy to draft him. Brian Robinson is someone that, way back in the beginning of this process you were talking about, is someone someone you liked and you have a lot of Brian Robinson. And continue to take more of them. You know, it's, you know, thought all along,

he'd be the best running back for the commanders. And, you know, it's proving like that's going to be the case based on what the expected touches will be. We'll see what happens in the regular season, but should lead them in carries, should lead them in goal line work. I think the passing work is a slight edge to Eckler as opposed to a huge edge to Eckler. And so we'll just see how that goes in that part of the game. But I think Brian Robinson is in line for career season. And Tajay Spears and Kamani Vidal are on your list.

Spears is an easy one, similar to Warren, you know, just somebody that you could take as even a number two running back in a hero RB build or certainly a zero RB build. We, I think, have all sort of slanted toward Tony Pollard, understandably so, because he's had a good preseason and seems to have the better opportunity to be the lead running back there. But we heard all offseason, they're going to split touches. They're going to split touches. They're going to split touches. We saw each of them get a goal line opportunity in the preseason.

So who knows how that plays out? Passing down work, we really didn't get to see a lot of it, but probably going to give a slight edge to Spears there. But again, both will play in both parts of the game. I just think Spears' ADP is fantastic on CBS. It's after pick 100. Just an easy guy to take. All right. Let's take a break.

That's an easy thing to take. A break. We'll be right back. We'll talk about Jamie's wide receivers and tight ends. We'll get Heath's list of players that he keeps drafting. We'll talk about the binatos that you might need to plan for in fantasy football this year and a lot more. We'll be right back on FFT.

Man, these promos are great. They're just great. Heath, do you have any? Oh, no. Oh, why not? We need some Heath Cummings promos. Let's go, guys. Let's go.

We need Heath in there. Heath, do you have a story about someone finding you in an awkward moment, but you're still helping them with their fantasy team? No. Oh, wow. Really? Really? Okay.

I'll try to think of one. Well, we'll make one up and make a promo out of it. Wide receiver. Fantastic. That Jamie keeps trapping. Drake London is your most rostered wide receiver and justin jefferson i'm sure would you start your team jefferson london be pumped about that would i start my i've done it quite a bit um you know just because jefferson's a mid first round

pick and i tend to take london a few spots before his adp um actually last night in a draft um for michael fabiano and Sports Illustrated with other analysts, I purposely passed on London and took Chris Olave because those guys tend to go in the same range. And I was like, I got to just diversify a little bit. So I passed on London and took Olave. But yeah, I'm buying in on London. I think the quarterback change, the coordinator change, all these things are going to be very helpful for London. And we finally see the best of him. So a second round pick for me. And again, a guy that I have a lot of shares on. Yeah. And Matt Ryan, pretty, pretty excited about what the Falcons offense is going to

do this year. So Chris Godwin, you have on five teams. Dave also had him there. Heath is Chris Godwin making a trifecta. I guess not. Yeah. I don't see him on your list. Chris Godwin. He's not on my list. I think I've drafted him once, so I haven't avoided him. I just, a lot of times I'm finishing up my starting wide receivers just before we get to that range, it seems like. Okay. Jamie, you got Pukunukua on here in four leagues. So that's an interesting one.

How afraid are you of Pukunukua and the knee? I'm not afraid of the knee. I'm afraid of maybe him being hurt just based on his track record. Again, you know, he was lucky to survive the injuries last year and clearly Cooper Cup coming back, but I'm not afraid of the knee situation. So he's somebody that I take it, you know, 11 or 12 at the turn, you know, if you back into round one, um, early round two type of pick. Does anybody still have him ahead of Marvin? No, he's one spot behind for me.

Yeah, me too. Same, because I had the 12th pick in our pick-by-pick, and I took Harrison and Barkley. I think Puka was the next pick. Okay, and then let's see who else for Jamie. You've got Malik Neighbors in three leagues, Debo Samuel in four. Debo in four, Neighbors, Waddle, and Higgins,

and Jamison Williams in three. But you could probably, you'd have to choose between Waddle, probably have to choose between Samuel, Neighbors, and Waddle, unless you want to take one of them in round two. So how do you rank those three? Samuel waddle neighbors. I got to stop saying Samuel.

It's just weird. He's Debo. So you go Debo waddle neighbors. And I did, uh, take Debo and I take waddle. I took Debo with the Olave draft last night. And I did two drafts last night. I'm a little confused.

Here's my future FFT promo from Joe. Adam's at a sandwich shop putting up a stink about them not having cinnamon raisin bagels. Worker about to blow up and realize it's Adam. Hey, you're out of Azer. Is Neighbors of the Third too aggressive? It would actually be kind of funny if they recreated your haircut where you wore the shirt with your name on it.

Oh my God, it was so embarrassing. And then the punchline is, oh, I knew you were Adam because your name was on your shirt. Yeah, oh, ridiculous. Wait, let's see. Okay, I'm looking for more of these. These are funny. Okay, sorry. Jamison Williams in three teams. Jamison Williams, Jay's see. Okay. I'm looking for more of these. These are funny. Okay.

Sorry. Jamison Williams in three teams. Jamison Williams, JSN. Like, Jamison Williams, JSN versus the rookies in that range. Worthy, Odunze, Thomas, Coleman. What do you do in that range? Thomas, JSN, Odunze. I'm sorry, Thomas, Jameson, Odunze, J.S.N., Worthy Coleman.

Okay. The ultimate Adam promo would be that no one recognizes him. J.B., your most drafted tight ends are Dalton Kincaid, Sam Laporta, and Trey McBride. So would you say it's a big priority for you to get a top five tight end? It's just kind of fallen that way. I tend to take a lot of Dalton Kincaid, you know, and so we talked about where Andrews and Kincaid have been going in the recent NFC drafts. In our drafts, he's pretty consistently around five pick and probably mostly because of me. So I do like the upside. I do like the potential. You know, it's hard.

It's hard to say that there's five guys that could finish as the number one tight end. But if there is a fifth, I think it's him. Adam's commercial is him drafting his fantasy football team and eating a cookie, then taking a sip of his milk. But there isn't any milk. And his pick is next in the draft. Adam struggles. His draft was an auto pick. Got milk. That's pretty funny.

My lack of enjoying these as much as you. These are great. That's a funny got milk twist. Okay. Heath, let's go to your most drafted players. Oh, Patrick Mahomes,

your most drafted quarterback. Very original. Now question. Is that only in these analyst leagues where he's going in like the fourth round or would you be willing to take him early in the third? Well, the funny thing is like every other position I have guys that I've drafted in seven drafts, six drafts, five drafts. Mahomes is the only quarterback I've drafted in even four drafts and I've only drafted him in four. So I'm pretty diversified at quarterback. For the most part, it's just analyst drafts that I've done that. I think I've gone late QB where I've drafted in my home leagues. Most of those are full of Kansas City fans. And so Patrick Mahomes goes a little earlier than I would like to draft him. But I do think it's worth remembering. It was two years ago that Patrick Mahomes threw for 5,250 yards and 41 touchdowns. His number one wide receiver was Juju Smith-Schuster.

And that's his number four now. And that's why I sit here and I'm like, really, am I taking, am I really taking Trey McBride ahead of Patrick Mahomes, which happens a lot in our drafts? Am I taking even Travis Kelsey or any tight end ahead of Mahomes? Am I taking Devontae Smith ahead of Patrick Mahomes? It feels like we go a little bit too crazy here with where quarterbacks draft.

It's probably not a conversation worth having because in most people's leagues, this is not an option. But it could be something like, am I taking Drake London or Chris Olave over Patrick Mahomes? That's a question that people are going to have to ask themselves.

And I am. But I do, like, I have Mahomes basically and Hurts early in round three in my rankings I think if you're in a normal league if you can get one of the guys guys you have the two three turn you're doing well all right you have Jonathan Brooks in seven leagues now I'm sure a lot of those were before he was put on the pup list so how are we feeling about that no um I think my last five drafts I've drafted Jonathan Brooks so So pretty much after we knew that he was, he's falling to the round nine, 10 range in drafts now. And I absolutely love it. I need to have, like you see Javante Williams on here, James Cook on here, Tony Pollard's on there as well.

I need to have two of my top 24 running backs and feel pretty decent about my RB too. But if I do, Brooks is one of my favorite guys to draft. And then it's a free roster spot, put him in an IR spot and go pick up somebody else. Okay, let's look at the other running backs that Heath is drafting a lot of. I like that in one league, you put Brooks on IR and added Keaton Mitchell. Yep, and put him on PUP and add somebody else. There you go. James Cook, Javante Williams, Tony Pollard. We'll start with that trio. Cook, Williams, Pollard. Would you be happy if your team, if those were your top two running backs, a combination of Cook and then one of Williams or Pollard?

Happier with Cook and one of those two, but a lot of my zero RB teams have ended up with Javante and Pollard in the next two rounds. And absolutely love that. If I can have three wide receivers and a tight end and a quarterback and then draft Javante and Pollard in the next two rounds. And absolutely love that. If I can have three wide receivers and a, and a tight end, a quarterback, and then draft Javante and Pollard,

um, they're getting a little bit more expensive, but still pretty cheap. And Zemir white is in this group too. He's in four of your leagues. He's this. Yeah. And I,

I think I took him in around nine of our super flex draft yesterday. Like it's, it's begrudgingly. Okay. So then he's like one of the last settle for running backs on your list right yeah yeah i guess so like he's in that i think he's right in the in the deandre swift naji harris group okay so then you got these three kind of late round running backs braylon allen jaleel mclaughlin and Audrick Estime. You love those Broncos running backs.

I have a big 506 opportunities for them last year. Hopefully it's just two guys most of the time this year. Okay, and Braylon Allen, clear handcuff for Brees Hall. Yep. Wide receivers Heath keeps drafting. Mike Evans, T. Higgins, Garrett Wilson, Jalen Waddell. We'll start with that. So, you know, you could definitely take Garrett Wilson in round one and pair him with Evans, Higgins, or Waddle.

I'm not sure that Evans and Waddle will definitely make it back to you. I've taken Evans, Waddle at the 2-3 turn quite a bit. Waddle usually in two and Evans in three. Wilson obviously in one. Higgins sometimes in five or six. Wow, at the two three turn okay i was thinking more like the three four turn maybe evans and waddle could be there i mean adp like waddle at adb waddle will be in evans might not our drafts waddle almost always goes before evans yeah adp has waddle 10 spots behind evans 36 and 46. Evans 36 and Waddle 46.

That's CBS ADB. It might be one of the best steals you could find. Jalen Waddle at that price. I would take Waddle at that price for sure. Yeah, 47th overall. Let's see where he is. He's 26th overall on NFC, but that makes him wide receiver.

I would be way out on him at 26. They go crazy for... He's wide receiver 17. him. I would be way out on him at 26. He's wide receiver 17. He's actually back-to-back with Mike Evans. They just go nuts for wide receivers on that site. Anywho, we love

T. Higgins. Corlin Sutton, Xavier Worthy, Roma Dunze. Yeah. If I'm thin on wide receiver, I like to have Sutton and one of the rookies because I think Sutton's got that pretty sure wide receiver, three floor clear, number one wide receiver for the Broncos. Worthy or a Dunze or Brian Thomas,

who didn't quite make the list, have, I think, that second half league winning upside that Sutton doesn't really possess. But I'm not sure you're going to be able to start him the first couple months of the year. Sutton more of a high floor type of wide receiver, like you said, Heath. I don't think he gets close to double digit touchdowns,

but more targets and decent yardage with it. I don't think Bo Nix is a disaster at all. I think he's going to end up being okay for that Denver offense this year. And again, another really good value. Sutton's ADP is around 10. Yeah. And tight end, Trey McBride in seven leagues.

It appears to be he and Jonathan Brooks, your most rostered players. Trey McBride and TJ Hawkinson is someone. Heath, got to have IR spots if you're playing with Heath. That's for sure. You know, and I realized, because my big thing last year was I'm not drafting injured players, and then two guys on IR are two of my most drafted players, which I don't love.

But again, Hawkinson is there a lot of times in round 10, 11, 12. And if you miss out on the top four, or if it's for you a top five or a top six tight end, like the guys that you think can be difference makers, you can just pair Hawkinson up

with a guy who's not a difference maker, and maybe in the second half, you'll have a top five tight end. Look, it's, you know, being kind of hesitant to draft injured players in the first two rounds, totally get that. You know, you probably would have been right

in most of the cases, but there's nothing wrong with it late in the draft, especially when you can stash them in an IR spot. It's really a good use of your late draft picks. Now, we had a question yesterday during the draft-a-thon, and I tried to answer it, but we got so goofy

that I couldn't. So I'm going to answer it now because someone asked, the same guy, he asked it again. Do you think Ricky Pearsall is going to be fantasy relevant this season,

Jamie Eisenberg? I don't, unfortunately. If anything, late in the year, it just seems like he's so banged up dealing with shoulder injury. Hopefully it'll be okay. But I mean, you know how teams are in certain cases like this.

Like we don't like Jawan Jennings, but they like Jawan Jennings, you know? So if Ayuk is going to miss some time, it's probably going to be a lot of Jawan Jennings as opposed to Pearsall. Now, who knows by the time, you know, we get to the latter half of the season, how rook probably going to be a lot of Juwan Jennings as opposed to Pearsall. Now, who knows by the time we get to the latter half of the season, how rookies tend to pick things up

and can perform. It's not a bad stash candidate if you have a deep enough roster, but I think you just be aggressive on the waiver wire and pick them up maybe a week or two when you start to hear some positive reports. Okay. So, miscellaneous topics here. Let's fire through these. Ready? Dave, talk about the binatos in weeks 12 and 14 and if it should have any impact on how you draft. that's going to be a tough scene for your squad, but there there's six teams missing on week 14, six on week 12. And then in week six, it's only four teams, but it's the chiefs. It's the Rams.

It's the dolphins. It's the Vikings. There are a lot of pretty good players on those four teams. Try and keep an eye on, on the players buys. Once you draft them, especially early on, try not to double up on as many players. It's almost like the same thing with players on the same team. You want to diversify that a little bit. You don't want up on as many players it's almost like the same thing with players on the same team you want to diversify that a little bit you don't want to have too many players on the same bye week especially later on in the season it's really amazing if you draft you know cj stroud and mark andrews or something and week 14 is the last week of your regular season is 15 16 17 could be your playoffs and they're both on by like he's terrible jonathan taylor mark andrews cj stroud you're screwed in week 14 no i kind of like it's

like how how much is your team gonna look like your team in week 10 even yep like there's such an advantage to not having those guys on by early in the year. And if you're 8-2 or 9-1, then you can know who cares about Week 14. And if you're 5-6, then you can trade those guys to somebody who is 8-2 or 9-1 and have somebody to start those weeks. I did. I made that decision in our office league,

which is 20 teams. It's a weird draft. You have to take running backs and tight ends in the first round and then wide receivers and quarterbacks in the second round. And I had an early pick in the second round, and I was going to take quarterback. And so I don't have very many shares of Jalen Hurts, but they have an early bye week.

And in that league, that could really screw you. So I was like, I'm just going to stick to my rankings. I'm going to take Josh Allen late bye week week don't worry about it you know exactly your point heath i'll figure out what my situation is by then and be a fine um as opposed to uh you know maybe needing a win early otherwise you're out of it uh by the way if you play in a tqb league and uh tasemill's quarterback look out oh he's our number one the saints are our number one projected quarterbacks from sportsline wow okay so yeah the other thing is by week 14 even week 12 you got to know your league if it's a casual league a lot of people are not even making waiver

claims not even picking up their teams out of it they don don't care. So if you have players on by, it's easier to fill those spots because there's less competition in some leagues. Other NFL trade deadline is now November 5th, Dave. That's before week 10. I think it's just great for the league in general because there's going to be more teams that are out of it in the NFL. They're going to be three and six or something like that. They don't really have much of a playoff shot. They'll start to turn the page. It could turn into what we see in baseball every year where the teams that are out of it just have a fire sale, get players off their payroll and turn the page toward the following season. We might see more of that in the NFL this year. The impact that it has for your fantasy team, you might want to target

players who could get moved from those really bad teams because in theory, they'll get traded to really good teams and have prominent roles with them in the event that they do actually get traded. And if not, then they're still good players. They're just not on good teams. Think about Devante Adams, for example, let's say the Raiders just have an awful start. They could potentially move on from Devante, maybe overpaying for Devante in a trade could work out for you if he does get traded before the deadline to a contending team.

Okay, and then the last miscellaneous topic here to talk about is when to take a DST and or a kicker. Heath, any thoughts on that? Usually the last two or three rounds. There might be an exception in a 10 team league especially if it's one of those leagues where like there's not very much activity where you go just a little bit earlier than that to get the best one but generally the last two or three rounds it's it's funny because like we don't do any mock drafts in the offseason with kickers or defense

and then we get to some real leagues and then they're there and especially like if you're drafting with non-analysts which we're starting to do with our you know friend leagues home leagues uh how quickly those guys come off the board it's like eye-opening like wow that's a defense around eight yeah let it happen yeah i mean don't be worried about it but to second like the last two or three picks i think is important right i don't mind in rounds in the third to last and second to last rounds, taking my DST and my kicker. Do you guys have a preference of which position to take first? I think if you're in a league where they start to come off the board first,

then you might want to pivot to the other one, if there's a higher value on that particular player. So I think for kicker, for example, there's maybe six guys that you could say you know what you're getting, right? Hopefully. Every year we have a top two or three kicker that just turns to dust.

And a guy who we didn't hardly draft who finishes top three of the position. But Tucker's really good. You know, Tucker is... Tucker is really good. Not just that, but I mean, Tucker is an advantage. Every single year, he's a top five kicker. No, was it last year or the year before

that he was not at all? All right, well, almost every year. He's had a very long, like illustrious career. He's been a really good kicker and it's probably worth the extra couple points, I don't know to take to make a him a priority dallas's kicker aubrey is incredible holy cow but again like not drafted in fancy football right but you could do that with every position right i mean

there's still an advantage that's the position where you can count on it you can set your watch to it every year so don, the problem is that like, if you take your kicker early, let's say it's with your third to last pick before you get a DST, before you throw a dart or add a second quarterback with your last pick, are you kind of committing to that kicker? Yeah. Cause Tucker's the kind of guy that you're going to draft and say,

okay, and at least I don't have to worry about this position. And you don't with whichever kicker you get until that kicker starts to suck. And then you've got to go and hit the waiver wire. And some people find that to be a nuisance, but other people who are going to make their waiver moves every week, they almost don't care who their kicker is

as long as he's on an offense that puts up points. If you want your league to be more fun, just remove your kicker and add another flex. Also, one advantage for Justin Tucker and Kaimi Fairbairn and Matt Gay, who's not quite as good,

but he'll get drafted. They have the week 14 bye. So you don't have to worry about that for a really long time. And maybe you can even roster two kickers at that point because maybe week 14 might not really matter to you

depending on your standings. So, all right let's talk a little bit about our super flex mock draft it was a fun one oh man heath and i did a super flex mock draft tuesday night on a live stream i had never seen quarterbacks get pushed down the way they were being pushed down so thomas has the that was a 10 team super flex league this was 12 and both of these are real drafts the tuesday night one was our podcast leftovers league 12 team super flex we had one two three four five quarterbacks to start they were mahomes alan

jalen hertz lamar jackson and cj stroud and then we had four non-quarterbacks then anthony richardson was qb6 and then another non-quarterback kylerler Murray and Joe Burrow went at the one, two turn. So that's eight quarterbacks in the first 13 picks quick. Let me just tell you real quick. This was a 12 team super flex, full PPR league, where you also start three receivers. So, um, 12 team super flex is definitely different than 10. Not everyone's going to have three quarterbacks they love. And number three quarterback might have been a little bit of a priority. I don't remember what I did. I think it was, yeah, I took Baker Mayfield in round seven.

But let's see, Jamie, you had the second pick. Did you give any consideration after Mahomes went with pick one, did you give any consideration to going with McCaffrey? And you did take Josh Allen. Did you give any consideration to going with McCaffrey? And you did take Josh Allen. Did you give any consideration to McCaffrey? No. Okay. So how many quarterbacks do you guys think should go

in a six point per passing touchdown league before Christian McCaffrey? Four. That's the number. Four. Okay. And I'll just say I don't disagree. However,

I did in a mock super flex draft a couple weeks ago, took McCaffrey third overall, and I ended up liking my team just fine. I think my quarterbacks were Caleb Williams. I can't remember. I know Caleb Williams. It was Caleb Williams, Deshaun Watson was your third, and maybe Geno? I think Deshaun was my second

and Geno was my third. And I had a pretty loaded roster. So, you know. third and maybe Gino. I think Deshaun was my second and Gino was my third. Yeah. And I had a pretty loaded roster. So, you know, but you guys say four. Okay, perfect.

How about in a four point per passing touchdown league? I did one of those last night also. And it was before McCaffrey you're asking. Yes. I think it was also four. Well, hold on. Somebody actually auto-picked Justin Jefferson second. Okay.

All right. But you wouldn't throw like Anthony Richardson ahead of Christian McCaffrey. I got Richardson in that draft. I had the 11th pick. I got him the second pick around two. Wow. Wow.

Nice job. That is really good. All right. So in five minutes, to sum up our super flex draft, Heath, what would you say about this draft? One of my favorite teams that I drafted all year long. Went pretty true, zero RB, didn't take a running back until round eight.

I didn't take a third quarterback. I have Jalen Hurts and Geno Smith, and that may come back to burn me, but also Jacoby Preset's still on the waiver wire. They're going to be starting quarterbacks who pop up. Hopefully I can find them on my bye weeks. But four wide receivers, a tight end, and two quarterbacks before I took a running back

still ended up with Javante Williams and Zemir white and Jonathan Brooks and a couple of Rico Dowdle as well. I took four so I could trade you one. There we go. That's another strategy to take four quarterbacks. Well, one is Taysom Hill. Well, then you did not really take four quarterbacks. If he's QB eligible, then that's four.

Yeah. But, I mean, Taysom Hill's not going to be worth starting at quarterback in a super flex league. He is a big desperate for a quarterback. He would be in the super flex play if, by the time you may need him, we know exactly what his role is because we just don't know. But, I mean, what if Alvin Kamara's out and he's the running back? Yeah, maybe. role is because we just don't know but i mean what if what if alvin kamara's out and he's the running back yeah maybe so my my number one flex week five because i've got a week five quarterback

by as of right now is either going to be jonathan brooks or marquise brown i'd probably just start those guys over tasem hill unless something really weird has happened with the saints okay dave what was your strategy i wasn't in this draft, so I didn't have a strategy, but I'm noticing that there are six teams that took two quarterbacks with their first three picks, which sort of surprised me. I would have expected more teams to go after quarterbacks early on. And so the team that I'm really looking at is Thomas's team, who didn't take a quarterback until round six. His first five picks, Hill, Chase, Drake London. Arguably the best three receivers on the same fantasy team that we've seen in a draft this year. Then he took Pacheco in round four, Kelsey in round five. And on the surface, that seems amazing, but hello, it's a super flex league and you don't have any quarterbacks. He took, he basically went zero QB Levis in round six, Bryce young in round eight, Justin Fields in round nine, Drake may in round 10. He's going to piecemeal it together with the quarterback position.

If one of those guys hits and it could be Levis, then his team is going to be very, very tough to beat given all the other star power that he's got everywhere, but quarterback. And all he has to do is just find one more quarterback, either via trade or off the waiver wire, or he's got one already on his team and he's off to the races. That's the, that's the thinking. That's the strategy of zero QB, so to speak in a super flex. I don't particularly love it, but now that I'm seeing a team that's just as loaded as Thomas's team is, I kind of get it. I kind of get it.

I think it's, I think it could be really good. And the other thing is like, I'm looking at round five when he was up in round five, the only quarterbacks that were left that he could have taken over Kelsey were cousins or Herbert. Would his team be that much better with cousins or Herbert and Dalton Kincaid instead of Kelsey and Levis. Maybe you feel a little bit safer about that, but I don't think it's got the same type of upside as Kelsey and Levis do. I love it. I love super flex. There's just so many different ways you can win. One thing that I learned, you know, maybe this should have occurred to me, but I do like Dak Prescott better than Tua. We all like Dak Prescott better than Tua. I had the seventh pick.

Five quarterbacks and Christian McCaffrey were off the board, and I tried to diversify the portfolio a little bit because I had Tyreek Hill. I drafted Tyreek Hill a day earlier.

I've drafted Brees Hall in a few leagues, so I took CeeDee Lamb, but the best quarterback available to me in round two was Dak Prescott, and I don't love that start. Like, it could be amazing.

No, I love that. You like Dak and Lamb? I would rather have had, I would have preferred, like, Jade and Daniels. You are anti-stacking. But Daniels actually, like, I thought, okay.

Right? No, I'm not anti-stacking. And I could have taken Jade and Daniels. In a one QB league, I would have taken Daniels over Prescott. Two QB league, Daniels is a little bit too risky for me, so I did take Dak. jim daniels in a in a one qb league i would have taken daniels over prescott to qb league daniels is a little bit too risky for me so i did take dac so i didn't love lamb and dac but putting the feedback on twitter people love that start so if you're okay with it lamb and dac is like from the

middle of round one i had the seventh pick it's pretty realistic didn't i thought you actually put in the chat during the draft that you didn't like stacking? I don't hate it, but I don't seek out stacking. I don't want to do it. But you were talking about, I was very emotional at that point because I absolutely hated my team. It ended up being, I got Ken Walker in round six, which really made me happy. And it's kind

of salvaged my team a little bit, but it's fine. My team's fine. My team's good. My team's fine. This is the first time, this thing is the first team I've drafted that doesn't have a top nine tight end i have no joku but who's like 10th yeah so um yeah anyway just keep that in mind if you take lamb and you want dac or don't want dac it's very it's a very strong possibility for you in the second round since it's a smorgasbord show you have said that top eight or top nine tight end thing a lot this year. Yeah.

Abandoning your great or late roots. Do you think that there's a – because I see the difference between four and everybody else as kind of the cutoff. You think five through nine are closer to four than the rest of the guys are to five through nine? I think five is like Jake Ferguson or, or Evan Ingram or those guys in round eight versus piecing it together with Dalton Schultz and Dallas Goddard late. You think there's a bigger gap between going? Um,

not necessarily, not necessarily. I would love to get a top four tight end. I have trouble with it because I love the wide receivers. I love the wide receivers in that range. Um, but I just feel like it comes down to you liking to get your second running back relatively early. If it's a top 17 guy. Yeah. But I just feel like after the top nine, look, obviously there's no way the position is going to play out exactly how I feel.

It's going to play out. That's just not how fantasy football works. I acknowledge that after the top nine, I just don't know. I can't think of one guy where he's going to be consistent every single week. And you're never going to think about streaming. You're never going to think about streaming.

I never think about streaming thing. I get, I don't think people should expect the five through nine guys to be consistent every week. I don't think the one through four guys are going to be consistent every week. I mean, they're going to have bad weeks too.

Everybody has bad weeks, but obviously you're never, you're never even thinking about benching them. Um, but that's just, it's just a security thing. No, your point is taken.

You'd much rather have a, I wasn't making a point. I was asking, like, you've talked about, like, I've talked about the top four thing. You've talked about the top eight or nine thing.

And I was just wondering, like, if you see a big difference between Jake Ferguson, who I think we might average 11 fantasy points per game, and generally we have 20 tight ends that average nine fantasy points per game. So. Yeah, I, yes, I'd see a big, huge difference between Trey McBride and Jake Ferguson.

But when we first did this position preview weeks ago, we kind of said, like, we don't see a tight end averaging more than 15 points per game. I feel like Jamie said that. We don't see a tight end averaging more than 15 points per game this year. Whereas in years we've had Kelsey flirting with 20 and Andrews had that one year. So if that is the case,

then Ferguson five rounds after McBride might make more sense. Um, I will just finish up by saying, I would love to get a top four tight end and a two receiver league, probably more like a top nine tight end and a three receiver league. Does that make sense? Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel bad.. I feel like I've controlled the tight end narrative here. I do say it all the time. And I want to make sure everybody else has their own tight end narrative that they've put out there. So if there's anything you'd like to say about tight ends, now's the time. Make sure you get a top nine tight end in a

two-receiver league. You want to get one of the top four guys in a three receiver league. It's okay to go five through nine. I'm sticking with greater late sticking to my roots, Adam's roots or Jamie's roots. He came up with it. Yeah. Right. Don't reach too big.

We see Kelsey's ADP as the one, the two, three turn that's too soon. Don't reach for any of these guys. They're good, but don't go crazy. Okay, guys,

thank you very much for your time today. We've got FFT express coming up with the all bus team from Dave Richard. And tomorrow we'll do a thorough average draft position review. And Jacob Gibbs is going to come on to do some rankings disputes with the guys as well. Adios. Oh, mailbag tonight.

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