Fantasy Football Today - Players We Love! Jonathan Taylor, Dak Prescott, Luther Burden and More (03/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

As we continue to participate in mock drafts, we're starting to see which players we value more than others, and now we'll tell you the Players We Love starting with Dave's list (6:55) which includes ...Tyler Allgeier, Dak Prescott and a wide receiver that hasn't reached his potential yet. We also talk about the best tight end values (14:00) within this discussion ... Jamey's list (25:30) is comprised of young players who are ready to bust out. Omarion Hampton, Luther Burden and more ... Heath (38:30) loves the values for Jalen Hurts and Jonathan Taylor. We also talk about Zay Flowers and why he could be a steal ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:10 Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Fantasy football today, live in studio in Port Lauderdale, and I have the worst seat in the house. Why is it the worst seat? Jamie is attacking me. Oh, you're sitting by Jamie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Absolutely. What's up, guys? Literally walked into the studio and did exactly that. A lot of tickles today. Anyway, Adam, Dave, Jamie Heath here to talk about players we love and seats we hate on fantasy football today. Jamie's. What's up, how are we doing, guys? Good to see you.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I think we're all better than you currently. Yeah. You coming to lunch? What lunch? Yeah. Apparently there's been a lunch plan. Yeah. What happened?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Jamie forgot to invite Heath to lunch. No. Not true. Yeah. Not true. It wasn't me. I didn't even want to go to lunch. Just like this is normally when we don't have a show when I eat lunch.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I'm a 10 a.m. lunch guy. Wake up early. I don't usually eat breakfast, eat lunch at 10 a.m. So like if you're going to lunch immediately after the show. Immediately after. Immediately after. Immediately after. Like just like quickly, then yes.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Oh, no. It's not going to be that at all. I have to edit. No, no, you're editing after. Fine. Whatever. All right. Anyway, today on the show, players we love.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Dave's going to talk about Dak Prescott, Tyler, Alger, couple tight ends, Christian Watson. Jamie's going to talk about Amari and Hampton, all the young guys, Emeka, all the young guys, Emeka, Luther Burden, and Isaiah Lightley, he's not that young. He's going to talk about Jalen Hertz, Jonathan Taylor, Sam Leporta, and Zay Flowers. First, Cincinnati re-signed Joe Flacco in six stars.
Starting point is 00:02:54 We talked about this, right? No, you did it? Yes, we did. I asked them before the show. They said no. Yeah, we mentioned it. I don't know if we need to get into it. We need to spend time on Joe Flacco.
Starting point is 00:03:03 No, okay. How about Carnell Tate did not run his 40? That we didn't get to. Okay. So he ran. at 4-5-3, which was a little slower than people thought. I brought it up on the show. Everybody made fun of me for bringing it up on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Then he decides not to run his 40. He says they're overrated or something like that. Marvin Harrison Jr. also did not run his 40. I don't love it, Heath. I don't think you care that much. I could not care less. I think it feels like it feels like he's afraid to run a slow 40
Starting point is 00:03:29 if he's not going to run it at his pro day. I don't know. I think I agree with him that 40 times four wide receivers are overrated. I think if let's go look at the fastest wide receivers 40 times and how successful they've been in the NFL. And it's not. Jerry Rice ran like a 4-7. Lots of good wide receivers in the NFL ran 4-5s.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Lots of elite wide receivers in the NFL ran a 4-5. And it's not like that's his number one trait. Like that's not his strength at all, if you ask me. I think he's fast. There's no question about it. But I feel like there's a lot of other things that Carnell Tate does that, you know, help him be a better receiver than just pure speed. There's other speed receivers in this draft if you're looking for that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I think if he ends up in the right situation, nobody's going to care. Well, I think from, you know, all right, it's just, it's worth mentioning from a dynasty perspective because obviously people have to invest a very, I think it might be the second player off the board. So if he goes, if he goes to Tennessee, right? Yeah. Not the most ideal situation. Why? I'm just saying, like, Camward.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We don't know what Cam Ward is. Well, no. What I'm getting at is like if he goes to great quarterback, great system, has a chance to flourish, we're going to be super excited about it. He goes to – and I shouldn't just crap on Tennessee because, yes, Cam Ward could be good. And obviously Brian Dables and now and all those things. But I'm just saying, like, if he doesn't go to the most ideal circumstances, maybe that was the case from Marvin Harrison, that he's not in the most ideal circumstance because Kyler Murray wasn't the guy to elevate him, et cetera, et cetera. So, you know, if he falls into the right spot, I don't think anybody's going to worry about his 40 time on draft date. Now, how it plays out, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Also, like, Kansas City might be that perfect spot. Like, maybe he goes to play with Patrick Mahomes. Rishi Rice ran a 4-5. Xavier Worthy ran a 4-2. Who would you rather have? Which one would you rather have in Dynasty? Yes, exactly. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Hold on. Is Rishie Rice, like, out of the clear with off-field issues? We're going to have a week one. Our season over is going to be on Wednesday. Nice. Wednesday and Thursday of week one. So clear your calendars. Can't ever have enough days with football on a game.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Oh, no, there's not because the Friday game is in Australia, which will be airing on Thursday in America. So Wednesday and Thursday. The Seahawks play Wednesday. It's Rams Niners on Thursday. I can't believe the division games away from the home game, home team sites. Drive me crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Why? Because, like, that's what you want to see. You want to see your rivals. You know, like, that should be, it should be a non-division opponent. where they do this with the overseas game. Yeah, fair enough. Who do you want to see the Seahawks play in the opener? I wanted to see them play the Rams.
Starting point is 00:06:10 That's not happening, so now the Bears is probably the team I'd like to see. It's a good game. Yeah. I just want to, whoever drafts Carnell Tate. Let's see that speed. I'm not sure he's the best receiver in this draft. Yeah. Who?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Carnell Tate. No, who do you think? I think you can make the case for Lemon and Concepcion. Not Tyson? You can make the case for Tate. You can make the case for Tyson, too. Okay. Beyond the box score, they're going to talk about,
Starting point is 00:06:37 I'll make sure they do an episode on 40 times. 40 minutes of 40 times. I'd like to hear Dan's. That's the age. That's the A block. But anyway, Beyond the Box score, great stuff. They have their own YouTube channel, so just look it up, go to YouTube, type in Beyond the Box score.
Starting point is 00:06:53 All right, let's get into players we love. I got Dave's first. Dak Prescott was the number five quarterback in fantasy. He was number eight per game. That was with a terrible week 18, where he played half half the game and didn't do much. You take away week 18 points per game go up to 22.9
Starting point is 00:07:08 fantasy points. Higher than that. 23.3. Oh, good. Here we go. This is my favorite thing. Four tenths of a point in points per game.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I just want him over the 23 point. All right. We'll call it 23.1. Okay, fine. Compromise. Fair enough. 23 points very good. It's clear that he was a really good fantasy quarterback last year.
Starting point is 00:07:30 He wasn't the best of the best, but I've got him in one of our mock drafts in round eight and another one in round 12. We're taking two of his wide receivers as top 10 wide receivers at the position. I don't think the Dallas defense is going to be that much better. It'll be better, but it won't be like one of the best run defenses in the league or the best defenses overall in the league.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I think you're going to see Dallas still throw the ball a lot. That means a lot of fantasy points for Dak Ruska. When's the last time he had back-to-back good years? It's probably been a few. I'd have to double check. Never? Never? He's never, it's been a long time.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Well, is that because of injuries playing a role? Because there's definitely some years where he missed time. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's been injuries. It's been his wide receivers not being healthy as well, you know, Cid Lamb. He had 20 plus three straight years, 2021 through 2021 through 2023. Okay, 2020, 2019, 2020, 2021. He's over 24 points all three years per game.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Four games in one of those seasons and eight other? No, 16, 5, and 16. Then a bad season in 2022 where he threw a lot of interceptions. Then he came back with a great 2023. So he basically, to me, had a five-season stretch where he's awesome, except one year where he threw 15 picks and 12 games. And then 2024 wasn't great. I don't really know what happened there.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Again, he threw a lot of interceptions. He started okay, and then he was really bad. And last year was pretty good. Last year he didn't run a lot, though. He has two years in a row where he's not running a lot. He's not going to be a running quarterback. No, not anymore. But can he get to two hundred?
Starting point is 00:09:00 He was like 180 yards or something like that. I think if you can get to 250, which is where he used to live. And that's realistic. But I don't think you're going to get the 400 yards from him again. And, you know, the rushing touchdowns are hard to expect. I think, you know, like Dave said, he's one of the best quarterbacks to wait for. You know, if everybody's going to chase Jackson Dart and, you know, Caleb Williams and, you know, these young guys that are on the rise, Jane Daniels coming back.
Starting point is 00:09:22 It's just easy to just sit there and say, okay, I'll wait out, Dak. And I think you took Dak from not mistaken either right before or right after Trevor Lawrence in that draft yesterday. So, you know, another guy that's going to be in that conversation as well. It was around 12 and I had already drafted Joe Burrow. I couldn't help myself. It was a really good value. Throughout the rounds for our drafts, but, you know, was QB 10, QB 11? Right.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But at some point in your drafts, you're going to have to stare value in the face instead of what you. Oh, sure. You know, you might be a drafter that you've got your stud quarterback already. And it's easy to pass up a DAC Prescott in round eight or round nine when you've already got Joe Burrow. When did I get Burrow? Like round six? I felt like I stole Burrow from you guys too. But it's round 12.
Starting point is 00:10:00 There's literally nobody left at any other position that's any good. I just said to myself, I might as well take Dak Prescott here. He's the best value on the board. To be fair, we may talk about this. You're off next week, right? So we'll probably talk about this draft next week. I think, if I'm not mistaken, Kyler Murray definitely went before DAC, which I don't think we'll see average job position.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And Malik Ballas also might have went before DAC as well. So those are two guys that I don't think we'll see. Six point, right? Six point, yeah. I don't think we'll see that. I don't think we'll see that. But Kyler was definitely drafted at it. All right, Dave also likes Tyler Alger, loves Tyler Alger, apparently.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Now with the Cardinals, yards per carry in four seasons, 4.9, 3.7, 4.7, 3.6. So you never know with him. 13 to 18 catches in all four of his NFL seasons. Tyler Alger, you love him. I just love the value of a running back who the new coaching staff brought in and will be paired with James Connor and maybe Tray Benson works his way in there. I don't know. but Connor, we all know at this point in his career, you can't count on him for a full season.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Algiers is going to at worst be a 1B running back. We're taking him in the back half of fantasy drafts. It's round nine where I took him, I think in two drafts, is where I got him. I just love that value for a bench running back who could end up being an RB2 at some point during the year. If looking at a draft we did the last week, Connor went two picks ahead of Alger, both in round nine. So what's your read on that? And Trey Benson went in round 12, first pick. Yeah, I think if they're that close together, I'll just,
Starting point is 00:11:27 take James Connor and take the good production for however many games that he can play. My concern with Alger is like this is probably still one of the worst teams in football. They were terrible running the football last year in terms of rushing efficiency. Alger, I don't think it's necessarily. He's really good at getting whatever the offensive line gives him. I don't think this offensive line is going to give him very much. They're not going to score very many touchdowns, at least with James Connor, like we could get a situation where he's also catching three passes per game.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Tyler Algier, even at his best, if something happens to Connor, is maybe 15 to 16 rush attempts per game. Maybe he catches a pass, and it's probably poor efficiency with low touchdowns. So I'll take Connor. And to your point, the rushing efficiency probably had a lot to do with who the guys were. You know, I mean, it was no Connor, no Benson, didn't have Algeria on the roster. You know, we're looking at Michael Carter and Mari Di Mercado. Line wasn't that great either.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah, I mean, that's obvious. And the other part of this is we didn't see Connor. in the Jacoby-Bressette offense. Not that that's great, per se, but it's a pocket passer from a past catching standpoint. That might have been something that could help him. So if we see more of a traditional offense as opposed to Kyler-Murray offense, we might see a little bit more receptions for the running back. So it could be a good situation for Connor, at least.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I still prefer Connor. I don't know if you're taking out of your first. No, I think I have Connor. Yeah, I still prefer Conner because I'm with you. I think, you know, you take that stretch of whenever he's healthy. And, you know, you say new coaching. staff, this is still the same regime that restructured Conner's contract. So, well, they, he took a pay cut to stay.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah. So they didn't kick him to the curve. But the point would be is like they still obviously see some value in him that they're going to use him to whatever degree they use. Okay. Dave, give me your thoughts before we go to break on Tyler Warren. You say you love Warren or Fanon. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I guess that's the, that's the tight end value that you're looking at. Late round five is where I'm targeting one of those two tight ends. Lovell and two if he happens to be there. I just don't think he's going to be there. He hasn't been there in any of the drafts that we've done so far. But I think that both of them, especially in leagues where catches count, they're going to be able to give you more than your typical tight end would at that point. And I think that that's fairly good value, not necessarily amazing value,
Starting point is 00:13:40 but you're going to be happy having one of those top five tight ends that's going to see a lot of targets and has upside to be the top target getter on their team or someone who could be north of 12 ppr points per game at that position. I'm just kind of waiting until one of those guys is the last guy, and that's when I want to pounce on them. And I'm usually finding them late round five. Is this the year that Jamie's late or great at tight end just goes away? No wonder we need to know. We're still going to talk about the late or great tight end.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Because it seems like we're really excited to draft these guys in round five, round six, round seven, which has generally been when the tight-in busts have happened. I do think we're going to see a pretty good group of that middle tier, though, right? Oh, it looks, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So is later, but I feel like usually when we're doing that, yes, later greatest will be good. Don't worry, we have it. We'll find Seth like Isaiah likely is already the headliner for that list. Well, I think you probably extend it a little bit too, right?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Because you have Goddard still, you know, who's top 13 every year, but his rookie season. Kelsey. Kelsey, we talked about Kelsey. Kelsey. Kelsey was fifth per game when the Holmes was healthy last year, six per game, I think, in PPR. I guess the biggest question I have is, first off, can you look what the best ball ADP is right now for the tight ends? Because I wonder if they're going in round five. Can we get a break in?
Starting point is 00:15:01 When we come back, James. Yeah. Jamie's thoughts, when we come back, we'll take a quick break on fantasy football today. We'll pick up this conversation about tight ends because Heath also has Laporte on his list. So we'll talk about when should Laporta go in relation to Fanon and Tyler Warren. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. All right, we're back. Hawkin, I didn't get the ADP.
Starting point is 00:15:20 I failed during the break. You look, my question to you is, because you like Leporta, and Kraft, I think, is going to be somebody that comes into the conversation as well. Are you still going to look at those guys if Daniel Jones is not ready for the start of the station, you know, coming off the Achilles? And it's Deshawn Watson, maybe Watson, maybe Sanders. Like how is your excitement level with those two in particular? So my excitement level will change with Fanon, if the,
Starting point is 00:15:48 Browns make some big changes to the receiving court. And I'm talking about more than one guy. They've got to, you know, they get Tate in round one. And then they've got a day two wide receiver. Or sign day is a good fit. Right, sure. Tyree Kill or something like that. Obviously in that type of situation, we can't look at Fanon and say he's going to get a ton
Starting point is 00:16:06 of targets. It's going to drop him down a little bit. That's when I might consider Laporta over somebody like Harold Fanon. And if Daniel Jones isn't ready to start the season, yeah, it's kind of a bummer. But I still look at that passing game for Indianapolis. and as long as they don't replace Pittman with someone of equal value, I still feel good about Warren being at least the number two target getter in that offense, and I feel fine with that.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And he's locked in as a top four tight end for me. Okay, I got Loveland 45th. Yeah. And Warren's 67th. Okay. Oh, wow, that's around six. Bannon 75th. Love it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 So there's probably quarterbacks going earlier. Yeah, eight quarterbacks up to that point. 39 wide. He was like Michael Wilson, D.K. McCaff, Cortland, Sutton, Park, and Washington. Where are any other tight ends in relation to that? Like LaPorteur, you mean? Yeah, sure. Tight end six.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, who were the next tight end? Tidon six is Tucker Kraft at 83. Tideon 7 is Pitts at 89. Tight end eight is Leporta at 92. I like the Leporta value a lot. You like the Leporta? Dave loves my love. I mean, how close is Loporta to the three second year tight ends?
Starting point is 00:17:14 The same. Yeah? For me, I think. He was better than those guys as a rookie. He has shown, like, traditionally in their offense, he's at very least one of their top targets in the end zone. Now they've got a new offensive coordinator who comes from the Kevin Stefansky tree
Starting point is 00:17:33 that throws the ball 10 times per game. Thomas Betzinking. Right. Yes. throws the ball 10 times per game. Coming to lunch with us. To everybody but me. And I think he has a better quarterback than at least two of those guys.
Starting point is 00:17:47 He just has more target competition, which is- Right. He does. I wonder how much, though, is Dan Campbell still going to be calling play? And I wonder how much of it is, well, he had Trey McBride to throw to in Arizona. And so they really wanted to utilize that element. And is Leporta the same guy as McRy? Which I don't think we can say. Heath would probably argue if it's getting closer to McBride, not being McBride, but the arrow starts to go up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Well, McBride was getting north of eight targets per game. Sure. Leporto was at five and a half. Well, but it's not just like if, and maybe you don't associate Cleveland with Arizona like I do, but it's also David Njoku. It's also Harold Fannan. Like, it's just been the,
Starting point is 00:18:26 I don't think all of those guys are on a different level than Sam Leportas, how always. Sure, but to counter that, I guess, would be as you had, you had an Amari Cooper year, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:36 there really wasn't a Montresne Brown and Jameson Williams that those offenses were competing with. But I think, like, I got Loporta, after those young tight ends as well in the half-p-r draft we did yesterday. And that was an easy selection for me. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, he was the eighth tight end off the board. I mean, Leporta and Kraft, they're both really good. But I don't know. Are they going to even get 100 targets? Well, Leportas had 120 in a season before, and does the new offensive coordinator matter? I would say yes. I would say yes to a degree.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I'd be worried about like six and a half targets. I'm worried about Laporta being in the same range of targets as Warren and Fanon for now. And his old offensive coordinator, Ben Johnson, right, had just had. It was really good for him. Yeah. And so you're saying he did get the 120 targets there, but was that with, I don't know when that was. Was that with Jamison William matter? It was before Jamo became a big thing.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Like, I feel like that matters too much. And two years in a row, we've seen Detroit not throw a lot when their defense was healthy and good. their defense completely falls apart in the second half because they're getting so injured and then they start throwing a lot and LaPorta wasn't really a part of that this year. But he had 49 targets and nine games. I like him.
Starting point is 00:19:54 It's just I don't know if he or Kraft are getting to 100 targets. It's kind of hard to be great at that. So you're going to take the younger tight ends ahead of those. I'm going to skip them all. No, no, I'm saying, but you had to choose. You would take Fanon and Warren, obviously, Lovelland, but Fanon and Warren over LaPorter and Kraft. Because they're all, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They're all two rounds apart. Yeah, yeah, I am. Okay. I am. And you would take Leporta over all the... I would just wait until the rookies are taken, then take Leporta like you didn't run last draft. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Whatever were an auction? I mean, you just would spend less on Leporta? He's going to go for less. Who are you ranked the highest? I'll probably have Lovland, Leporta, Warren, Fennon. Okay. All right. So, yeah, I mean, just get the value there,
Starting point is 00:20:37 whoever goes less, right? Dave, Christian Watson, you know, It just feels like there's something untapped there, doesn't it? Yeah, it's been that way his entire career. But they looked like they were tapping into it. A little bit. But even he was still, even at his best, it was still on like 104 target pace. Which was with like a 22 or 23% target chair.
Starting point is 00:20:58 They just didn't throw enough. But I look at numbers here and I see potential explosion for Christian Watson. I do too. But the number going back to targets that I'm worried about is exactly that because there's only been one wide receiver in the LaFleur. in Green Bay that's been north of 6.7 targets per game. And that was Devante Adams. And Christian Watson, as good as he is, he is no Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I just, I love the idea of getting him to be a high end number three type of wide receiver. He's in that boat for me. Don't want to push him into the top 24. I hope I don't ever push him into the top 24. We know about the injury concerns. We know about the boom or bust nature of his game. But if Dobbs is out of there and they don't really take steps to replace him in that offense, it's one less mouth defeat.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And that makes me more interested. in pretty much all the Packers' past catchers, Tucker Kraft included. But Watson's the one that I would like the best. And when I can get him in late round six or into round seven, I feel pretty good about that if he's my number three receiver. The guy, go ahead. The guy that I always think about with Christian Watson is Will Fowler. It's just the perfect comparison.
Starting point is 00:21:59 That ruins it for me. Oh, he was really good. He was good for like in spur. Well, same for Christian Watson. Yeah. Yeah. And like through the first four years, their numbers are pretty similar. Will Fuller had actually been a little bit more involved in the offense than Christian Watson had.
Starting point is 00:22:15 About that. Year 5, he averaged 80 yards a game, Will Fuller. Like, he was awesome until he got hurt again. But, like, I think there is upside for the breakout. The problem is the Matlafloor problem. Well, and to your point, you know, what we saw last year, that's coming off on ACL tear. I know. That was incredible.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And now we're, you know, hopefully you're removed. No Romeo Dobbs. I know you made a case when we were reviewing our last mock. draft for Matthew Golden, you know, and maybe him also taking a step forward, too. So that could be the Dobbs replacement in terms of just, you know, a guy getting on the field and getting more chances. But, I mean, the sky's the limit for Christian Watson. And this is the first draft.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I think we've done five or six that I haven't actually taken him. You took him instead of me. You know, so I've been targeting Christian Watson as much as possible. I think he's a huge breakout candidate. 13.2 PPR points per game last year. But it was very boom-abust. There were four games where he was north of 18 and six games where he was under 13. But as you said, you know, number three receiver.
Starting point is 00:23:12 That's what you asked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good boomer bus number three receiver. Not a safe number three wide receiver by any stretch. All right. So, Jamie probably, if he had sent the text message first, probably would have put Christian Watson on his love list. But Dave stole him. So Jamie went with Amarian Hampton, Ameka, Abuka, Luther Burden and Isaiah likely.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So let's start with Amarion Hampton, who you took two weeks ago in that draft, I think early second round, which is great because you let trade. Chase Brown. You've made a mistake. She's taking Chase Brown over Hampton. But that's good. 17th overall. Ahead of Ashton Gentie. So comparing those two second year running backs, you're going Hampton over Gentie.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So we discussed this yesterday in the show you took off because you were lazy. But I keep shuffling those running backs around. Ken Walker, Gentie, Hampton, Chase Brown, now ahead of those guys. But just looking at that group of, you know, back-end number one running backs, I can make a case for all of them. But the thing I like about Hampton, obviously is the addition to Mike McDaniel, assuming that the tackle stay healthy there. The offensive line should be great.
Starting point is 00:24:17 What we saw from him at the end of last season, because I think that's the best sample size to use because Najee Harris was gone, you're looking at a guy, I think, that's going to get a lot of opportunities. And the thing I like about McDaniel, we've seen different running backs flourish in his offense. The first year when he was there, Rahim Moster, leads the NFL in rushing touchdowns and older running back but gets 18 rushing touchdown. Then we see Devon H.
Starting point is 00:24:36 18 in the last two years, 170 combined targets, very much involved in the passing game, obviously explosive as a rusher. So I think Hampton's sort of a good combination of both of those guys. Can work at the goal line can obviously be involved in the passing game. We'll see what Keaton Mitchell and Kamani-Vidal do and how much they use those guys. But McDaniel has shown us that he's very comfortable using one guy and featuring one guy. So I think Hampton, had he stayed healthy last year, he'd be an easy guy to rank in this range because had he done what we expected him to do, first round, you know, pedigree coming
Starting point is 00:25:05 into the NFL. So just love the setup for him. So somebody I'm going to be probably aggressive drafting. All right. Here's the best ball ADP. Gentie is RB 6, A. Chan, 7, Hampton, 8, Jeremiah Love, 9, Barclay 10. We haven't been drafting Love in our drafts. But Genty A. Chan, Hampton, love, Barclay. Thoughts? Berkeley too high, but the other guys, I think, fine, and we'll see where Love ends up.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Barkley too high at RB10? Mm-hmm. Okay. For me. Ken Walker at RB 11, Derek Henry 12. He's Brown 13. Come on. That's the one who's too low. Brown has earned it. He's ahead of all these guys.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, baby. Ameka, Buka? Yeah, I mean, we spent a lot of time talking about this yesterday. I remember, yeah. In just the opportunities, you know, Dave and I did Fancy Football to Express talking about, you know, free agents and the movement. But I think just in the case of Abuka, the opportunity is there. You know, no Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And now you're seeing the chance to hopefully build off what the start of the season was. And I think, Adam, you know, you can. can chime in because Heath has a little bit of a pessimistic view, right, on Baker Mayfield. Not Baker Mayfield, yes, not Abuca. But Baker Mayfield, you know, Dave was making the case that maybe we see more of a prolific passing attack because suspect defense, run game maybe not as good, and Baker having to throw the ball more. And that opens up things for not just a Bucca, but also Godwin and maybe Jailin McMillan.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I regret to not taking McMillan. I did at the end to two wide receivers. Jacob was funny in the draft. He said I kept sniping him. and then I took Darno Mooney and Christian Kirk. As we discussed with Dan, Mooney went way too soon in that draft. I thought so.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I got him at the end of the draft. It was like my last two picks. I took Christian Kirk and Darno Mooney. And then right afterwards, Jacob took Jayne and McMillan. I was like, oh, I really would have taken him over, probably Kirk. For sure. But I like the opportunity for all three of these receivers to take a step forward without Evans there. And I kind of agree with both these guys.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I want to see what Baker looks like because it's now another offense coordinator and another system that he's got to learn and hold. Hopefully, you know, last year was more about injuries for him and the offensive line more so than maybe what we saw, 2023, 2024. But I think when you look at Abuca, you know, this was their plan, you know, draft him in the first round last year. If Evans or Godwin are gone, he gets the chance now to be the superstar. He probably accelerated that expectations, those expectations last year when he got off to such a hot start and then really cooled off. I think we'll see sort of a mixture of that, you know, somewhere in between. But easy guy for me to target him round three.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You know, so Dave was saying he would have taken Waddle, Abuca, where he took Waddle in that discussion. And I agree. I think that's a spot from the top 15 wide receiver, you know, coming in this year. Would you take Abuka or Devante Adams? Abuka. Boca.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah. Zay Flowers. Abuka. Zay, we'll talk about Zay a little bit later. T. Higgins. T. Higgins for now. I'll take a Bucca. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Okay. Okay. Okay. Anything else on it? Let's see. Abuka. Oh, yeah, I want to mention this. I don't know if anyone cares.
Starting point is 00:28:03 ESPN analytics, they have the open score. They rate players on how open they get. He was 104th out of 110 wide receivers. This was something that was talking about all year, basically, because he was low in this metric all year, and he was putting up these big numbers, and he's still, like, very low. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I mean, I think he gets open. I don't get, Nico Collins, by the way, more so in the first five games of the year than toward the end of the year. It seemed like a lot of the times he got open, which is like, and it was kind of the way Baker had success early in the year, too. Yeah. Like we'd get to the fourth quarter and things weren't going great. And then there's one broken play.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah, the Eagles game, for example. Hey, there's a Bucca running 30 yards down field. And he's, like, I don't know how much it factors into the open score when you're 30 yards open on one play. But he had several of those early in the year. And then that kind of went away. Yeah. All right. How about Luther Burden?
Starting point is 00:28:51 All right. So here's my question for you on Luther Burden. 60 targets. That's not a lot, obviously, to go off. He was very encouraging, but only 60 targets and 15 games. games for him. Is that enough to justify somebody in the fourth round? I mean, this is where we have to justify our jobs, essentially, right? You know, so we're projecting him to take a step forward. We're telling people that this is
Starting point is 00:29:14 going to be a big year for him. We're excited about the opportunity for him to, you know, take advantage of no DJ more. And then you look at what he did when Odunze was hurt at the end of the season and kind of right before Loveland became this Uber targeted, you know, player, not just tight end, but obviously focal point of the offense. And then buying into Caleb Williams and buying into, you know, Ben Johnson. So I think when you look at it, we had this discussion last year, and Burden was, I think, kind of the afterthought, correct me if I'm wrong, but it was who's going to be the Amon Ross St. Brown in Ben Johnson's offense?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Is it going to be Loveland because he was the guy drafted first of this regime? Is it going to be burdened because of his chance? I think we were more looking at it, maybe DJ Moore, because he's had some success in that type of role or Romo Dunezay, you know, sort of being the bigger option and maybe being the slot guy there. but now you see what's available to them. Assuming they don't make some sort of splash with the NFL draft or sign of John Jennings or Stefan Diggs or Tyree Kill,
Starting point is 00:30:07 which doesn't seem likely to any of those guys. But you're looking at 85 targets available because DJ Moore's gone. You're seeing what this kid has an opportunity to do. He was open all the time. Caleb Williams missed him quite a bit toward the end of the season when sort of everybody was getting healthy. And so for me, it's, you know, and I think Heath is probably the most excited about him.
Starting point is 00:30:26 So I probably stole burden from him and Dave Stoll Watson for me. 100%. But I think you look at it as you don't want to get like over-excited. At least I don't want to get over-excited. And Heath, you like Burden more than Abu-Ker, right? I've got him just ahead of Abu-Ber-Ga-huh. So I'm not there yet.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And I think we're probably all not where Jacob is, Jacob Gibbs, you know, who seems to love Luther Bairn the most. But when you're talking about breakout potential and opportunity and everything that sort of you got glimps, is up as a rookie. Like, I can't wait honestly to see what he does this year when I read about 30-year wide receivers because I feel like he's going to be one of those guys that tracks in that direction. You know, not a huge rookie season, should have a very good sophomore season,
Starting point is 00:31:12 and then maybe we see that huge breakout year in year three. But he may accelerate that even in year two just because of what he's capable of doing. I hope so. I looked at the last 10 years and have there been any wide receivers who had 60 or fewer targets as a rookie and then average 13 or more PPR fantasy points in their second season with a minimum of eight games. I had to make it 61 to get Michael Pittman. They understood. Well, otherwise, so there have been five.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Five wide receivers over the last 10 years. The most recent was Michael Pittman. So again, 61 or fewer targets as rookies. And then 13 or more PPR fantasy points as second year players. They were Tyrell Williams, Cameron Meredith. Kenny Ghaladay, DJ Chark, and Michael Pitman. So these are guys who really, we didn't have much to go off as rookies. And they had very good second seasons.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But most of them were 14 or fewer. Only DJ Chark averaged, like, he averaged 15.1. He was only one at great seconds. I don't think any of those receivers are similar stylistically to Luther Burden at all. Which makes it a little bit more interesting. But honestly, like Jamie said the best we're projecting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:25 You can't just say, oh, he had 60 targets. Let's see what he did. It's not like he had six over course. His year was very different. There's a lot of context that has to come into play. The other thing is we're focusing so much on the targets. I think if Jacob Gibbs was here, he'd be like just his face would be bursting from wanting to spewed out. Like he was elite when they threw him the ball.
Starting point is 00:32:45 He was elite when he was on the field. Like half the year, Lomadee Zakias is on the field and Luther Birden isn't even playing. I don't know if it was because he was still learning the playbook or what the reason was. But it was the reason I think. we project the big leap in targets is because when he was on the field, he was so awesome. It's a great talent. He never had one game where he played where he ran 70% of the routes. I bet that changes next year.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I hope so. That's the first thing that changes. And the second thing is going to be more consistent target. Yeah. I just hope they don't, you know, sign some, did he still have it, Zakias? No, he's on a different team. Oh, I hope they don't sign someone like that. Well, they actually have a very.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Midway through the season, though. I mean, he didn't get to 70%. Yeah, but he never, they never use them as a full-time receiver. I don't know why. They're going to have to this year, though. And if they do, you're right, like, elite per route metrics. He should be drafted as a number two fantasy receipt. I don't think anybody's drafting him as number one.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And I don't think he's number three. Well, Jacob might draft him as another. No, I don't think Jacob would based on what we've seen. But I think that the interesting part of this is because we say this all the time, can he be first or second on the team in targets? I think that's easily in the conversation. But it wouldn't surprise me if he's third. I mean, based on what we saw from the level at the end of that.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Between the three of them, it's going to be. Oh, I would think so. But what I'm getting at is, like, it's not a guarantee that he's going to be first. It's not a guarantee that he's going to be second. I mean, they have three very talented options here, plus they'll throw to their backs. And then we may see the Cole Commets still be a part of this. You know, I mean, like, there's going to be some other wrinkles to this offense just because that's what Ben Johnson does.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So the other thing is, like, we're all excited about these three players. I think you said when we talked about this between DJ Moore and the two receivers, you have them five spots apart, right? Yeah, they're all very close. Similar, right? Similar for me. They're all in a similar range, and Loveland's going to go in this spot.
Starting point is 00:34:33 We're hoping that we see a 4,000-yard season for the first time ever for the Bears. We're hoping for that. So that has to happen also. Like Caleb Williams has to take this leap for all of these guys to be successful. So unfortunately, if he doesn't, and they're in a similar range, just around 4,000,
Starting point is 00:34:49 one of these guys are probably going to be a bust. And you hope it's not burden. You hope it's not Loveland. You hope it's not Oduonze, but it's just the nature of how this is all going to go. All right, so we're going to take a break. We've got one more guy for Jamie, Isaiah, likely, and then four more for Heath. So let's get to that.
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Starting point is 00:35:30 We'd love to talk. Business. All right. We are back. Isaiah, likely quick thoughts on why you love him. Just opportunity. You know,
Starting point is 00:35:41 I mean, going to a situation where the head coach clearly is familiar with him, Jackson Dart, we spent some time talking about this in the last couple of days. I think just looking at Dart and what he did with Dio Johnson, we're hoping that Malik Neighbors is right, but, you know, still an if and maybe get off to a slow start.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And then Darnal Mooney, I don't think is the most ideal. I know Dan is very excited about it, but I don't think he's the most ideal number two option in a passing game. I think he's a good third option. So if likely can show what he showed in glimpses in Baltimore, I think we're looking at a guy that could push to be a top five tight end, but an easy got a draft as a top 10-th inning. All right, Heath, you're up.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Jalen Hurd. I like what you've done here. You've gone with these veterans that people seem to be as kind of forgetting about. Jalen Hertz, we already talked about Leporto, Jonathan Taylor, and Zay Flowers. But Jailen Hertz was QB7 per game last year. was his first season averaging fewer than 23.4 fantasy points per game in the AJ Brown era. Yeah, what do you like about Hertz? Well, first off, it was his first season averaging fewer than 23 fantasy points per game.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Jalen Hertz, I think people have been questioning or doubting him since before he was drafted. And what he does almost every year is give you 30 plus total touchdowns, finish as a top five fantasy quarterback. He just had his big down year, and he was QB7. And now he's being drafted. I think round seven and round eight is the two times that I've drafted him. I took him just before Dave took Joe Burrow in our most recent draft. He is the most likely guy maybe to finish above where he's being drafted at the quarterback position.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It's just free money. It's been late season swoons. That's actually cost some fancy points in each of the last three years. Jalen Hertz has averaged at least 25 fancy points per game in at least his first eight games. There's a lot of at least in there, but he gets off to such good starts for fantasy managers, and then either it's injuries or something else that happens where his averages just plummet toward the end of the season. Do you like Heath that? I do like Heath.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It seems like they're running it back, assuming AJ Brown stays. Dallas Scotter comes back. Lane Johnson comes back. New office coordinator, clearly. I like that they're not running it back on that part. That's been the theme for Jaylen Hurst is a new offensive coordinator every single year. sometimes it's been better than it has been others. I can't imagine it's going to be worse than it was last year, let's hope.
Starting point is 00:38:00 But yes, I like A.J. Brown, Devante Smith, Dallas gutter back. I just wonder, like, based on how things went last year, could the bottom fall out. I'm a little worried about that. And, like, you know, we're looking at every, like cleaning house. Not not Roseman, but, you know, head coach on down. But in round seven. No, no, no, you're taking that. There's no, there's no question.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And, and again, I don't. I don't think we should use rounds for our drafts, but, you know, QB8. QB8. Right. But you would take Hertz over Burrow. Yeah. That's interesting. I'd rather have Burrow.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Me too. But, I mean, I certainly see the appeal for both. And again, that'd be one like, you know, you just wait to take which one's later. Only 105 rush attempts for Jalen Hertz. So usually he's 140 or more. So I'd like to see him. Yeah, but a hundred of them were at the goal line. He actually was, is, they were not as successful with the Tush push last year.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And they didn't do it as much. Josh Allen was the Tush push. merchant. About that. Jonathan Taylor, actually, believe it or not, number four per game in PPR, even coming off this amazing year with 20 total touchdowns, number one per game and non-PPR, number two per game and half PPR. And this, you know, what's the concept here that people might be just forgetting about how great he's been? Every draft I think we've done so far, I've, for some reason, every draft I've done, Jamie gives me one of the last three picks in the draft. I think I need to complain. I remember one time somebody complained about that, and so Jamie redid the
Starting point is 00:39:23 draft orders they could draft higher. It wasn't me. No, it wasn't. One of our frequent guests. I don't really care. But every draft, it seems like, at the end of round one, Jonathan Taylor's still there. I draft him at the end of round one.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And I absolutely love it. When you look at my projections, there's four guys that I have projected to definitely score more fantasy points than Jonathan Taylor next year. He was RB5 last year, so that makes sense. It's McCaffrey, Gibbs, A. Chan, and B. John Robinson. Yep. And then there is a huge gap. in my projections behind Jonathan Taylor.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Jonathan Taylor is still up there around 19 fantasy points per game. There's a big drop off after him for me. So if you can get that guy that's closer for me to the elite running backs in production and get him at the end of round one, that feels fantastic. He averaged almost 25 PPR points per game in the 12 full games with Daniel Jones last year. Yeah. That's like QB1, top half of QB1 type production. I don't think people recognize.
Starting point is 00:40:23 him as this as much as they should. But he is in the discussion for like the best running back in football. Yeah, he's phenomenal. Absolutely. He's phenomenal. I think when you, when you, to me there's two guys in the first round that like after you get the top four or five picks, like it just feels so safe. And it's Samara St. Brown and Jonathan's like you just
Starting point is 00:40:41 yep. You feel like you're settling it at some cases, you know, because you may say, oh, Malik neighbors could be better than St. Brown or if C.D. Lamb gets back to what he is, he's better than St. Brown. Or, you know, maybe James Cook gets better or A-Chin's better, you know, those type of scenarios. Like, Taylor just feels as safe as it comes. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Zayflower is so interesting that last year, I feel like during our draft process, we were looking at ADP and Zay Flowers, I feel like he was in the about five, six-turn range. And I feel like we didn't really like them that much there. No, I think if I remember this correctly, it was about this time of year and we were looking at it. And Zay Flowers, when we were looking at certain ADP, was in the round three, four.
Starting point is 00:41:23 range. And we all hated him. And then we got to July and he was in the five, six range. And I was like, yeah, that's okay. I feel like we like a lot of guys better than him. And I think we were worried about target volume, right? He had the same amount of targets, basically. Like 2024. Okay, if you take out week 18, which doesn't really change much of 2020. He was on pace for 118 targets. He had 118 targets in 2025. And he went from wide receiver 36 per game in a year where the Ravens threw for 4,200. yards and 41 touchdowns to wide receiver 12 per game and a year where they threw for 3,300 yards and 23 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:42:01 He had a higher catch rate. He was a little bit more efficient, but really the same. Not that much changed for Zay Flowers, really, right? What am I? Well, I think the big change was he had a 71, like you said he had a higher catch rate and just kind of dismissed that, but he had a 71% catch rate as a rookie. He had a 73% catch rate last year. The year that they threw for all years, he had this.
Starting point is 00:42:23 a 64% catch rate. Well, that's, that's, that's a difference in 12 catches between the two years. And that amount of yardage also. Yeah. The fact that he could finish as high as he did at wide receiver last year on a team that threw the ball 490 times or whatever and still hasn't scored more than five touchdowns but has given us that type of production. I think there's really sneaky upside with Zayflowers.
Starting point is 00:42:47 The fact that Isaiah likely is gone and they've not really made any significant additions in the passing game, he is the number one wide receiver with a bullet on this team. And if he just happens to have a season where he scores eight touchdowns, he's an easy top 10 wide receiver. It's nice when the talent finally with production. Yeah, right, right, right, right. That's like, like, he looks like Luther Burden, right? I mean, you could see that we hadn't mentioned that, but you can watch Luther
Starting point is 00:43:14 Burden go. This guy's so good. I guess one of the reasons why forget about all the stats and all that. I mean, you watch football and you see a guy that looks like he's got it. I think we've all sort of felt that way about Zayflowers, finally, wide receiver 12 per game, pretty good. That was the biggest knock I had on him was that he never really seemed to get those kinds of opportunities,
Starting point is 00:43:31 and over the last two seasons he started to, 2024, the numbers didn't show it. Last year they did. So now I'm more interested in Zay Flowers than I've ever been before. But 118 targets, though. If I said to you 118 targets, just what he's had, two years in a row, basically. Do you still take him in the third round?
Starting point is 00:43:48 I wouldn't take him to third round. No. Fourth round. Yep. I mean, because you start running. out of wide receivers we start running out of wide receivers that that look like they're going to be a third round caliber player so i get it well we're reaching at wide receiver this year based on last year's results which is just such a bad year right but it is two years in a row with a
Starting point is 00:44:06 118 targets right around there so it's tough i think if it's 180 if like if it's just guaranteed 118 i'd probably take him in round four okay but i i think it's more likely that that number goes up than down assuming he's healthy is there anything else you wanted to say about Leporta? I think we said enough about Leporta. He's a fantastic, I mean, for me, and Jamie stole another one of mine would have been was likely, likely. For me, it's just that with Loporta and likely and Pits,
Starting point is 00:44:33 you read the ADP going round seven, round eight, round nine, round 10 even in one of our drafts. Like, it's just so easy to wait on tight end. Tight end is so deep. We were praising you that you're likely Kelsey pairing. I felt good about it. I'm glad you guys liked it too, Because I was thankful that likely got there.
Starting point is 00:44:53 But then I just didn't realize how good Kelsey was with Mahomes. Man, that offense was terrible, those last three games or four games, whatever it was. It made everything look so much worse. Sixth per game, you know, just got so many targets. And now, Rishi Rice missed a lot of that. But it didn't really change when Rice came back. And Xavier Worthy missed some time. They might again.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Yeah, I know. So it's not perfect. But, yeah, there's some good late-round tight ends. All right. Well, thank you guys. Good to be in person. Good to do this. Hope you all enjoyed it. Hope it looked good. When we go to lunch, I'm not sitting next to Jamie. Thank you so much for watching and listening to Fantasy Football today. We will talk you out Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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