Fantasy Football Today - Post-Free Agency Mock Draft: JSN in Round 2! Pickens over Metcalf! Najee in Round 5! (03/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Taking a look at our 12-team, 3-WR PPR mock draft. It's our first mock draft since free agency and we'll tell you where guys like Ladd McConkey and Jaxon Smith-Njigba (4:40) were drafted, if Quentin J...ohnston (9:05) has value this season, if DJ Moore should go ahead of Mike Evans (12:00) and more ... Is Ken Walker (18:45) a free agency winner? Should he be drafted ahead of Joe Mixon or Chuba Hubbard? We also talk about free agency loser Garrett Wilson (28:00) and if the middle of Round 4 is actually great value for Wilson. Plus, our thoughts on Chris Godwin (32:00) and Najee Harris (37:30) ... We look at other players impacted by free agency and trades including George Pickens and DK Metcalf (43:30), the 49ers wide receivers (44:40), Jakobi Meyers, Evan Engram and many more ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:38 It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Well, should Lad McConkey and Jackson Smith and Jigba both be top 13 wide receivers? Should Garrett Wilson fall to the middle of the fourth round? Should Shuba Hubbard and Chris Godwin go back to back to Dave Richard? Well, that's what happened in yesterday's mock draft.
Starting point is 00:01:08 12 team full PPR draft post free agency, our first draft post free agency. Of course, we still don't even know where Aaron Rogers and Russell Wilson are gonna go. So that could change things too, but DK Mecca, George Pickens went ahead of DK Metcalf. That was something that we will also talk about. Where did Najee Harris go and and all those things. Welcome everybody it is
Starting point is 00:01:29 Thursday. It is two hours until tip-off. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. Do do do do do do do. Yeah okay thank you Dave. Who's your favorite? I'm so excited. I didn't make any of my picks in the bracket this year. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Jamie's pointing at the Gator. Oh, Gators. Yeah. Jamie Gator. Yeah. I think Duke's the obvious choice. There's definitely not an obvious choice. Duke is definitely the, assuming Cooper Flags healthy, Duke's the obvious choice. That's why it's not an obvious choice.
Starting point is 00:02:20 He's healthy. Okay. All right. He is terrific. I cannot wait to watch him in the NBA next season. Not a fan? No, he's really awesome. I just think, I do think maybe he's a lot better in college than he's going to be in the NBA. I don't think so. The guy does everything. He does everything.
Starting point is 00:02:37 He's terrific. All right. Anyway, we'll place a bet on that and we'll revisit in 10 years. So let's get to our 12 team draft. We also have some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com and we have an Apple podcast question. If you wanna leave us a nice five star review on Apple podcast, please do that
Starting point is 00:02:56 and leave us a question there. And that question will in all likelihood be read on the show. It's the best way to get on the show. OK, so I'm not going to go through like every pick or ever. I just really want to focus on the free agents. But in case you're interested in the first round, it was B John Robinson, Jamar Chase, Saquon Barkley, Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, Amanra St. Brown, Jameer Gibbs, Tyreek
Starting point is 00:03:22 Hill, which was a little bit of a surprise. Nico Collins, Pooka Nakua, Christian McCer Gibbs, Tyreek Hill, which was a little bit of a surprise, Nico Collins, Pukka Nakua, Christian McCaffrey, Brian Thomas Jr. And you're going, where's Malik Davis? He was 13th. All right. So the first thing I want to talk about is pick 16 overall and pick 21 overall. And these were wide receivers, Jackson Smith and Jigba and Lad McConkey. They went as wide receivers 11 and 13. In between them was Drake London. So you had like the big names that we definitely expect
Starting point is 00:03:54 to go ahead of them, including AJ Brown, but Tyreek Hill also did. And then you had JSN fourth pick of round two, couple picks later, Drake London, few picks after that Lad McConkey, then T Higgins after that. So Jamie, looking at Smith and Jigba who benefited from DK Metcalf being traded and maybe McConkey
Starting point is 00:04:13 who perhaps benefited from the Chargers not making any moves at receiver, except for Mike Williams and getting rid of Josh Palmer. Round two, is that a good spot for these guys? It's a little too soon in terms of the overall selection, but I think if you were to say they were back end of round two picks, then I have no problem with it. I think when you look at the group of receivers,
Starting point is 00:04:33 and I do think it's probably still after AJ Brown at this point, so I like that he took Puka Nakuwa at 10, so he's still a first round pick. I know there's gonna be some questions about what happens with him now that Demonte Adams is there. But I think that group of receivers, so JSN, London, McConkie, Higgins, that's the next group of receivers I have ranked, not in that order, but that grouping. And so if you are inclined to take a receiver there, like, you know, I was debating, for example, London versus Bowers at my selection, which was at 19 overall in round two.
Starting point is 00:05:14 But that group of receivers, I think, you know, they're going to, you know, be polarizing. They're going to be, I think, somewhat, you know, in this range of mid round two to mid round three. Again, you know, if you if you want to go receiver, receiver, running back receiver, you know, however you build your your team, these are the guys you're looking at in that second round, you know, unless you're going to go the veteran route of, you know, Mike Evans or the Monte Adams, which I think for me would be too soon. Okay, anybody else have strong thoughts? I'll give this stat for you here. Greg Roman's been an offensive coordinator for 11 seasons. Only once has a wide receiver finished top 12 per game
Starting point is 00:05:52 in full PPR. And I definitely think McConkie could break that streak. Cause you know, last year was the first time that Greg Roman had like a true drop back passer. He was, let's see, what was he overall? I think he was wide receiver 18 per game last year. But anyway, I did think that was interesting. McConkie going as wide receiver 13 in this draft.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That would be the second best finish. Sammy Watkins had the best per game finish ever under Greg Roman, but McConkie would be second best if he, I think there's a little bit of talk about the chargers, maybe having conversations with Kenan Allen now. So that could definitely impact whether lad McConkie is around two or around three pick. Um, I think like, I would prefer T Higgins and Drake London to both lad and
Starting point is 00:06:44 JSN. Agreed. I've got lad. I've got lad in the round two range. I, I'm not going to draft JSN until round three. Probably. Does anybody have lad, uh, behind Tyreek Hill? Yes. No, no, I don't either.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So two out of three ain't bad. Um, they're close. Um, banking on Tyreek Hill to have a bounce back year with two. I don't know. So two out of three ain't bad. They're close. Banking on Tyreek Hill to have a bounce back year with two. I don't know what's really changing in Miami. They added another speed receiver. I was real surprised to see Tyreek going round one, but the guy that drafted him, it's Brandon. He tends to draft like he's drafting a track team more than a fantasy team in our drafts. And that's just how it goes. And that's fine. But in a full PPR, I like McConkie better. And I still think that he's going to be in line for around 15 PPR points per game. He's still going to get a lot of targets. He's still going
Starting point is 00:07:33 to work the middle of the field. But any more additions to this receiving court by LA is going to mess up McConkie's upside for sure. Yeah. You know, you mentioned Tyree Kill, who went McConkie's upside for sure. Yeah. You know, you mentioned Tyree kill who went, uh, ninth eighth overall, pardon me. And Tyree kill had basically the same exact yards per route run and target per route run rate. As lad McConkie.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Oh wait, no, not lad McConkie as Quentin Johnston, uh, looking at chargers, wider series. I was looking at Quentin Johnsonston. Looking at Chargers wide receivers. I was looking at Quentin Johnston because I was another guy I wanted to talk about. Maybe you could argue Quentin Johnston is a winner or at least keeps him fantasy relevant. Last year, Quentin Johnston was a number four receiver. He's about 40th per game.
Starting point is 00:08:16 A lot of that was touchdowns though. He caught eight touchdowns on 91 targets in 15 games. But I don't know if there's any hope for this former first round pick to make the next step. He was picked with the 11th pick of round 10 and it's amazing. He had, yeah, the same target per route run rate and the same yards per route run rate as Tyree Kill, which is really an indictment on Tyree Kill's season. But also he didn't run that many routes. Tyree Kill ran five more routes per game than Quinton Johnston. But yeah, so just to kind of talk about some players
Starting point is 00:08:48 that we haven't spoken much about. Quentin Johnston going after Rashid Shahid, Stefan Diggs and Amari Cooper, second to last pick of round 10. So 118th overall. Do we like that value for Quentin Johnston? That's not a bad throw at this point. You know, I mean, looking at, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:04 receiver entering year three, um, with the hope that he can, you know, still continue to grow in this offense. And look, he had some, some big games last year, but he had some disappointing ones and he battled some injuries again. So it's just a matter of, you know, what's your, what your expectations are. It's a really good pick as long as the chargers don't sign one of the veteran wide receivers who are still left or draft a wide receiver on the first two days of the NFL draft, which is a lot of this.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah. I mean, is there any, should we take Mike Williams over Quentin Johnson? Or an eye would because I don't know if Mike Williams can still play at even like a moderately high level, at least with Quentin Johnston, if you're stuck during the bi-weeks or if you've got receivers that are hurt, I don't think you'd ever mind putting him in as a one-week replacement type of receivers. Bench receiver, all those guys that you named that were picked around Johnston, they're going to begin the year as bench receivers for fantasy managers.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Some of them might reemerge. And I'm thinking of like Amari Cooper, Stefan Diggs, like at some point during the season, those guys could come back and be like number three receivers for your fantasy team. I don't know if Quinton Johnson's ever going to be that reliable to be a number three receiver, like that type of consistency from game to game. 42% of Quinton Johnson's receiving yards came in two games last year. Yeah. He has such a big week 18 and he had what a hundred and nine against the Browns was
Starting point is 00:10:35 big also, but other than that, not one game over 51 yards. Yeah. And his last game. So week 18 was 186 yards for Quinton Johnston. His next game was the playoffs, he had zero catches. All right, next up I wanna talk about a pick Heath made. You went with DJ Moore, so he was pick 3.8, so eighth pick of round three, and, nope, tenth,
Starting point is 00:10:59 tenth pick of round three, sorry, and just ahead of Mike Evans. I could just look at the draft board. If you, oh, yeah, so if you wanna follow along, our draft shows are great ones to watch on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasy football today. Also, Jamie, when will the results be published on cbsports.com?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Today. Today, all right, so Thursday. cbsports.com slash fantasy, you can see the results there. But anyway, pick 10 of round three was DJ Moore to Heath. You took him one spot ahead of Mike Evans. Mike Evans averaged 3.2 more PPR fantasy points than DJ Moore. So could I look at this pick and say that DJ Moore
Starting point is 00:11:34 is a free agency winner? I think so far for sure. The absence of Keenan Allen, the improvement of the Bears offensive line, hopefully the development of Caleb Williams. In my way too early projections, I actually have DJ Moore and Lad McConkey projected for the same number of fantasy points and both higher than Jackson Smith and Jacobus.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So I was really happy to get him at the end of round three. Jamie and Dave, DJ Moore, Mike Evans. Evans more for me. Dave, you're on Evans Island. It's More for me. Dave, you're on Evans Island. It's fine with me. Dudes getting over a thousand yards every single season, gets a ton of touchdowns. Nothing's really changing in Tampa. I know they're changing play callers for the third year in a row.
Starting point is 00:12:18 It doesn't bother me. I still think Evans is going to get good volume and be in that range of 15 PPR points per game. That's kind of the number that you look for from a wide receiver. Once you're out of the middle of round two, all the way through till, you know, round five, six, somewhere like that. He averaged 17.2 last year. I'm not expecting that, but I think he can still come through maybe on an inconsistent basis.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So I'll give you that, but I still think he could be a good, real good fantasy receiver. We've seen DJ Morgo way up and way down. Romo Dunze, I think we'll take a step forward this year. Uh, if, if we learn sooner than later that DJ Moore was going to be the slack guy and he's going to play the Amunra St. Brown role in Chicago, I might change my tune. I think I'd have to change my tune on that one. But short of that, I'm fine with Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:13:06 As the Mike Evans guy from last year, I hate to argue against him. But I would disagree with the nothing's really changing. The offensive coordinator is changing. And Chris Godwin played seven games last year and we think he's going to play a lot more this year. Well, it's also what Edvins did in those seven games with Godwin was not 17 points per game. It was close to 14, which still very good, you know, clearly. But, um, now you're factoring in Jalen McMillan too. You know, what kind of role does he have, which should impact both those guys, you know, so Godwin and Evan.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So I'm hopeful that more is trending up and Evans is hopefully just leveling off and continuing to do what he does. But again, going to be 32. We know what that age is like for those receivers. So for me, I would take I would take DJ more of him. Okay. So just to clarify, and I think it's worth bringing up because Jamie, you said he was close to 15. He was less than 14 PPR points. I said 14. Okay. He was under that. He was at, I'm looking at it now. 13.6, three monster games over 23 PPR points in three of them under 10 PPR points in four of them. And there was only one guy hurt, you know, for older receivers, something to keep in mind. Yeah, it's true. It's true. I'm pulling a Kurt angle there. Look, I think that
Starting point is 00:14:26 Odunze, if Odunze doesn't take the step forward, Moore will be great. If Moore's in the Amon Ra St. Brown role, he'll be great. How else can DJ Moore get to, you know, where was he two years ago? 16.9. How else can he get there with the Bears not changing anything else in their offense? Well, hold on. You talk about Ardunze. So I do want to get to that was one of the most interesting picks of this draft. We're going to talk about Romo Ardunze right after this break on Fantasy Football today. Survivor 48 is here and alongside it, we're bringing you a brand new season of On Fire, the only official Survivor podcast. If you're a Survivor super fan, you won't want to miss this deep dive into every episode
Starting point is 00:15:13 where we break down how we designed the game, the biggest moves, your burning questions. It's the only podcast that gives you inside access to Survivor that nobody else can. Listen to On Fire, the official Survivor podcast with me, Jeff Kropst, every Wednesday after the show, wherever you get your podcast. All right. So look, obviously we're expecting big things or better things, better things from the Bears offense. That'd be great. Should you really take two wide receivers from the Bears offense with your first five picks? I think that would obviously, I think we would all agree that would be absolutely insane. Oh, Heath did it. He took DJ Moore in the third round. He took Romo Dunze two rounds later with the 10th pick of round five.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So you locked that up right there, Heath. What were your thought process there? And the next wide receiver off the board was Khalil Shakir, then George Pickens, then DK Metcalf, Jerry Judy, but you took both more and Odunze rounds three and five. Well, so far we have removed a wide receiver who earned eight
Starting point is 00:16:13 targets per game from this offense. We've added a head coach who we all agree is arguably at least one of the best offensive minds in the NFL. And we have what we thought was close to a generational prospect at quarterback entering his second year in the NFL. I think that we all expect a massive leaf leap from the Browns passing game. And if DJ Moore and Roma Dunze are the one and the two, then it's not that crazy for them to be a high end number two wide receiver and a good number
Starting point is 00:16:44 three wide receiver, which is the range where these guys were taken. As the guy who drafted Caleb Williams, I love it. No, it makes sense individually just to double up on them. You're cool with that. I don't really think about that type of thing very often. I also took Pukunakua and Kyron Williams with my first two picks. So I have two Rams and two bears. I don't generally think in terms of, Oh no, I already have another bear. I can't take this one. Okay. Well, luckily for you, I think you only have one chief.
Starting point is 00:17:15 It's no, no, I took two. Yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. Sorry. Round six, 11 and 13. Yeah. Elijah Mitchell, Marquis Brown, Patrick Mahomes, or in order, Mahomes, Marquis Brown, Elijah Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Okay, let's go to our next conversation here about running backs, Ken Walker. So is he a free agency winner when you look at the Seahawks? He went at pick 4.1, so first pick of round four, just after Alvin Camara and Walker last year was this is PPR. He was actually RB 12 per game in PPR So if he hits that that would be a great pick at the beginning of round four He was RB 16 per game and non PPR But he did miss six games and he only had two games of more than 16 carries and he did not finish well
Starting point is 00:18:01 He did not score more than 14 PPR fantasy points in any of his last six games. And he averaged 3.7 yards per carry. It was a weird year for Ken Walker. And you know, he has actually not been on a run heavy team once in his career. Seattle has ranked 21st, 25th, and 29th in running back rush attempts in three seasons for Ken Walker.
Starting point is 00:18:24 So anyway, Ken Walker, I just wonder if he has to be the focal point of the offense, but I also wonder is he anything like what we saw in his rookie year when he was one of the most explosive players in football. Jamie, good pick, Ken Walker at first pick of round four, 37th overall. I mean, I love it. I think Ken Walker's in line for another, you know, high productive season, you know, whether he can be a top 10 running back or top 15, I think probably depends on how soon you want to draft him.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But you know, looking at the build of what Joel did, taking Thomas Navers with his first two picks, you know, doubling up with running backs with the next two, I think that was smart. Really the only one I think that you could compare him to is the running back who went After him two picks later is Joe Mixon because I think you know once you start to go down the line here I think Walker's in a better spot than Montgomery at this point than Hubbard at this point You know going into round six around there was around five nausea Harris
Starting point is 00:19:20 You could probably debate that one if you want to James Conner could bait that if you want to But Walker last year showed something in the passing game, which was a big question for him maybe coming into the NFL. And if he can continue to do that on an offense that's still lacking pass catchers, I mean, yes, they signed Cooper Cup, but it's still a very incomplete receiving court at this point. Geno Smith's a very accurate quarterback. Hopefully, Sam Darnold hopefully will be as accurate as Dino Smith and can
Starting point is 00:19:45 move the offense, you know, continuing it in the right direction. But I think, you know, you said it, you know, he's never been in a run heavy offense and this is potentially trending in that direction. So if the offensive line holds up, I think there's an opportunity here for Walker to have a very successful season on the ground, be involved in the passing game. I think he's a breakout candidate for 2025. He led all running backs with a hundred or more carries. There were 46 of them in a void rate, which I know a lot of people like he had a 40% avoid rate. That is bonkers, but he also had a 5.2% explosive run rate. It was 10.5% as a rookie. So Ken Walker is just like, he's, he's always a guy that has a lot of
Starting point is 00:20:26 carries for, for zero or negative yards. That's just part of his profile. He needs to supplement that with these home runs. And he's like, Chris Davis, where he hit like 50 home runs and then he hit 30 and then he was at a baseball because he couldn't hit home runs anymore. So that was Chris Davis with a C by the way. I, and I think that range of running backs really just is like, how much do you care about the age of Alvin Camara and Joe Mixon? I would take Joe Mixon over Ken Walker without hesitation. Right. Because like performance wise, last year, the year before the year
Starting point is 00:21:04 before that, those guys have been considerably better than Walker on a per game basis every year. It's just, do you think that the age catches up to them this year? I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I would take both of those guys over Ken Walker is Camara. Like his, his value is really, it's almost not even as a rusher. You know, he's just such a unique player, just gonna catch so many balls. So he'll age fine in that regard, I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:30 He hasn't been a good running back for four years and he's consistently a PPR stud. This was a PPR draft. So Kamara Overwalker is easy. And Mixon Overwalker to me is also easy. He was just so good last year. And then you mentioned Jamie. Mixon closed the season so poorly.
Starting point is 00:21:47 As poorly as Ken Walker? Well, yeah, you know what? Mixon did have really tough matchups down the stretch, as I recall, and he stunk, he stunk in them. And then he was somehow good against the Chiefs in the playoffs when the Chiefs run defense was as good. But no, it's a good point. But Walker, like I said, no more than 14 points in PPR
Starting point is 00:22:05 and six straight games to end the year. And then you said he's in a better spot than Chuba Hubbard. Is he though, is Doudel a bigger threat to Hubbard than Charbonne is to Walker? We'll find out. But just to answer my question, would you guys also take Mixon and Camaro over Walker? I would.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Oh yeah. I would take Camaro over Walker, Walker over mixing. Okay. And it's like just the Joe mixing conversation. He finished the regular season. Awful. Right. He, he was really good against the chargers.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He was really good against the chiefs. All right. Let's go to the playoffs. Yeah. Right. Um, can I touch on just one last thing? Yeah, sure. Let's remove to, yeah, right. Um, can I touch on just one last thing? Yeah, sure. Let's remove the running backs.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Well, let's remove Walker and Hubbard just for a second from their respective situations. Who who's got the better offensive line between Seattle and Carolina right now. Carolina. I would argue that it's Carolina. I think it's close. I would think that Charbonneau is a bigger threat to whatever running back. Remember we've removed the running backs in question, then Dowdle would be in Carolina. I think the
Starting point is 00:23:13 offense quarterback, I would give the lean to Seattle, but the offense in general, it's the same offense basically. Canales is running in Carolina and it's Kubiak his first year in Seattle. I kind of think the only reason why you'd put Walker head of chopper, this is why I did it is because of talent and because of upside. And, you know, we know that Ken Walker, a couple of years younger than Chuba just feels like he's got a little bit more upside and more juice to his game than Chuba.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And when you go and look at their per game averages last year, Walker was four tenths of a point better in full PPR. They're about the same is what I'm saying. And so I think the argument could be made that Chuba is a better pick than Walker, but I think I'm taking Walker just based on talent more than anything else. The only thing I would push back on is the Charbonneau Dowdell thing. We really haven't seen Charbonneau impact Walker to the extent that it's a problem, except when Walker's been injured. We don't know if Dowdle
Starting point is 00:24:11 will impact Chuba to the extent that it could. I would slightly disagree with that because Charbonneau has been the third down back. I know the passing game worked two years ago. Yes, he certainly had that role. Right, he had a role. But to to your point maybe dowdle has a role too It wasn't that detrimental to walker. It may have impacted his ceiling, but he was still a very good fantasy option Okay, he's walking in trouble potentially. Here's walkers Receptions per game in three seasons 1.8 1.9
Starting point is 00:24:41 4.2 he was on pace for 71 catches last year. It was a new coach. Yeah, I don't know what it was. I mean, like you had completely uninvolved locket basically, but no, there were a couple of games where he had like eight targets his last year. He also has a new coach again this year. Like the guy who.
Starting point is 00:24:57 The new head coach. Right, but the offensive coordinator, the system that chose to give Chubal that work last year is still there. Kubiak may have a different preference but how to use Walker and Charbonneau. How did Alvin Kamara do with targets last year? He actually led all running backs with six. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:15 But wouldn't you have said before the year Charbonneau is a better pass catcher than? I would go into this. I definitely went in the last year saying that. Absolutely. I don't know. Two guys who can in the last year saying that. Absolutely. I don't know. I have two guys who can do it. Walker proved that he could. I always wanted them to give Ken Walker more work because I think the in the passing game
Starting point is 00:25:34 because I think the offensive line was a big issue for Walker last year. Like if a guy needs to hit a bunch of home runs, like it's hard for him when he's when his line was really bad. I'm afraid some bad news for you, Adam. But get him out in space is what I'm trying to say. So I just, I would hope that they would continue to use him in the passing game. But gosh, if he has two catches per game, he's going to be in trouble. Seattle really does need to get on improving the O-line.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Their tackles passable, but the interior is a problem. All right. So we could go to Chuba Hubbard if you want a real quick, you know, just let's just do this real quick on Chuba Hubbard. What's better value Chuba Hubbard with the last pick of round four, so 48th overall, or Rico Dowdell in round nine? Chuba, Chuba. I'm, I'm abstaining because I'm the one that took Chuba. You don't have to abstain the one that took Chuba.
Starting point is 00:26:25 You don't have to abstain. All right, Chuba, he's awesome. What a great pick. Whoever made that pick is a genius. All right. In between the Ken Walker and Chuba Hubbard picks in the middle of round four, we had Garrett Wilson with the sixth pick of round four.
Starting point is 00:26:38 He went just after Terry McLaurin and Zay Flowers. So McLaurin was the second pick of round four, then Flowers was the fourth pick, and Garrett Wilson was the sixth pick. They were the first three wide receivers taken in that round and then you had Marvin Harrison Jr. and Chris Olave. But we had decided Garrett Wilson was a loser in free agency because of Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:27:03 But, you know, Terry McLaurin had 117 targets last year. Is Garrett Wilson gonna have more than that? Garrett Wilson, wide receiver 19 per game last year in full PPR. It's a harder case to make to take Wilson over McLaurin in any other format, but in full PPR, Garrett Wilson was wide receiver 19 per game, McLaurin was wide receiver 16 per game.
Starting point is 00:27:24 That was with McLaurin having six more touchdowns. Do you guys think McLaurin should go ahead of, of Garrett Wilson? Do you think Zay Flower should go ahead of Garrett Wilson? No, no, to penalty flowers should. I do have McLaurin over Garrett Wilson as of now. McLaurin definitely flowers and Wilson right now for kind of a toss up for me. Yeah, I'll take Wilson easily over both. And I know I was on the Wilson is a loser because of Justin Fields. It wasn't necessarily because of Justin Fields per se. It was because I was hoping for maybe a little bit better passer than Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Okay, I get it. Well, I just don't know how many passes the Jets are, like he might, I think he'll have a 33% target share. He may lead the NFL and share of targets, but if they're throwing 28 passes a game, it's not quite as exciting. I mean, I'm just looking at the receiving core right now. We'll see what they do in the draft. You know, at least field has given us a season of supporting a receiver that has more two
Starting point is 00:28:32 years ago. I, I, I, I know hopefully elite level talent, but it's only above average talent and DJ more and making him, I mean, giving him his best season to date, you know? And so can Wilson be north of 16 PPR points? That's the question, you know, so I mean look I drafted I was thrilled, you know to get him in round four as my as my number two receiver. So Based on the expectations we had from him for him a year ago where he was going borderline first round pick You know to me this feels like an incredible discount for a guy. Look they have history together I mean these they were two years together at Ohio State and hopefully that
Starting point is 00:29:07 matters. Yes, the volume is not going to be as ideal. Again, this is why I think he didn't win in free agency. But there's still an opportunity here for him, for a guy that had 154 targets really was last year to have, you know, I think 130. For what it's worth, George Pickens was on pace for 125 targets with Justin Fields, six games. I think DJ Moore was on pace for more than that, like 140, right? Two years ago. He averaged over two years ago.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Eight targets a game. With Fields? Yeah, with Fields specifically, let me see if I have that. I have it somewhere. Yeah, 8.2 targets per game and 13 games with Justin Fields. Coincidentally, DJ Moore averaged 8.2 targets per game last year in Chicago to one thing that DJ Moore did that year, 2023, caught a lot of long touchdowns. Garrett Wilson has pretty much never
Starting point is 00:30:08 done that. He has two touchdowns longer than 30 yards in his career. He has five touchdowns longer than 15 yards in his career. I don't know that he can't do that, but that's kind of the play with some crappy quarterbacks. Yeah, but it's kind of the issue with Justin feels like when he gets down to the green zone, he's running a lot. I don't think you should be expecting 10 plus touchdowns for Garrett Wilson. Okay, did you give any thought to drafting Marvin Harrison Jr. over Garrett Wilson?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, if Wilson wasn't there, that was my next choice. And that was the next pick. All right, let's take a look at some other things we noticed from this draft. So we talked about Chuba Hubbard, Chris Godwin, re-signed by the bucks. He went with the first pick of round five. He went 49th overall to a very handsome drafter. I didn't take him. Yes, you did. I did. Oh, well, thank you. Maybe I was talking about a different handsome drafter. I'm surprised anybody calls me handsome.
Starting point is 00:31:08 My mom isn't on the show, so no one else out there calls me handsome. 49th overall, and you had Sutton on the board, Devontae Adams, Xavier Worthy, Jordan Addis. I actually really like this round of wide receivers, round five. Me too. But you took Godwin, who was, as I mentioned last time, we talked about him, probably the best pick in fantasy last year while he was healthy.
Starting point is 00:31:29 He was wide receiver two or three per game. He was unbelievable. You took him 49th. Go Bucks. I like a receiver that had 20, almost 20 PPR points per game in the games they play last year, almost nine targets per game.
Starting point is 00:31:47 We can make the argument of OK, what's the impact of Liam Cohen leaving the team? What's the impact of Jalen McMillan? Does he take a big step up? Is Baker Mayfield going to be as good again? Is the run game going to take a bigger slice of the pie?
Starting point is 00:32:03 I just I look at Godwin, especially when we're talking about 50th overall at the draft in the draft, like he's, he's very capable of being at or near 15 PPR points per game. And now we know what his upside is. We saw it last year. So no, I'm not telling you that he's going to go and get 1920 PPR points per game. That would be ridiculous, but he's in that range of wide receivers who I think you can count on for near if not over 15 PPR points per game.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Would Jamie or Heath, would you guys take Sutton Adams, worthy Addison Odunze ahead of Chris Godwin? The only one I would consider is Adams. And I'm still on the fence of how much does his age and maybe being second on the team targets matter by comparison to the landing spot and the offense that he's in. So they're very close. If Godwin's a hundred percent healthy, no issues, I'll probably lean Godwin,
Starting point is 00:33:04 but that's the only one I would consider. Yeah. I've got a pretty significant projections edge for Adams right now, but I'm obviously downgrading him because of age. I don't think I could downgrade him past Godwin because I'm not sure Adam's age worries me as much right now as Godwin's health. So yeah, I'd take Adams, but they're right in the same range. And this is a good range for both of them.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Courtland Sutton was the number 10 wide receiver per game in his last 10 games. He was number 21 per game overall. So he went in this range too. But let me add another guy who you could say has been a winner from free agency just because Depot Samuel got traded was George Kittle. So you have Godwin, Cortland, Sutton, and Devontae Adams, all going just ahead of George Kittle,
Starting point is 00:33:52 all within the first five picks of round five, which was Godwin, Jalen Hurts, Sutton, Adams, George Kittle. Should Kittle have been taken ahead of those guys? I mean, Kittle should have been taken ahead of TJ Hockinson. Well, that is true. TJ Hawkinson went in round four. That was a, it was a reach.
Starting point is 00:34:10 But but should Kittle have gone ahead of Godwin, Sutton and Adams? Or do you feel like it's it's reasonable? Depends on your team need or how we want to build it. I think again, you know, just playing it out to managers had already taken tight ends. So it's probably not realistic to say everyone should have taken him there. But you know, this is a great pick. I was considering him for sure. You know, Thomas drafts him two picks in front of me. So had he fallen, I would have definitely
Starting point is 00:34:37 you know, pull the trigger and even the next pick after him, Joe Burrow, you know, that was, that was tough to watch both those guys go right in front of me. Yeah, I was debating Kittle and Hertz and I took Jalen Hertz. I also took a commercial break. We're going to do that right now and we will be right back with the rest of this draft. What you need to know, Najee Harris. We're talking about him soon. The Steelers wide receivers, the San Francisco wide receivers, they all went around seven. We'll be right back on FFT.
Starting point is 00:35:02 All right, welcome back. So by the way, we have well over a thousand entries, I believe in our March Madness pool and I am currently in 10th place. It is alphabetical based on first name. So I am pretty happy with where I stand right now before the games have started. So Najee Harris went with the eighth pick of round five. This is a bit of a dead zone, and I don't mean that in the, well these guys are going to stink way. I just, there aren't a lot of running backs
Starting point is 00:35:36 being drafted here. You've got Hubbard with the last pick of round four, and then you've got Connor eight picks later, and then you, oh sorry, Najee eight picks later, and then Connor four picks after that, and then we get some running backs in round six. But round five, only two running backs. One of them was the last pick of round five,
Starting point is 00:35:51 but Najee Harris, eighth pick of round five, three picks ahead of James Connor. Then Aaron Jones went, and then Jaylen Warren went in the middle of round six. If they miss any running backs, Tyrone Tracy as well. So you do have Najee going about a round ahead of Jalen Warren and in between them you have James Conner, Aaron Jones, Tyrone Tracy. Your thoughts on that group of running back? Trey Lockerbie As long as the chargers don't make a significant add at running back, this is at minimum the range that Najee will go in, I could see him going even a little bit sooner
Starting point is 00:36:28 as fantasy managers gravitate toward the lead guy, the main guy in the Chargers run game. But I do think that they will ultimately add somebody. That's why I've got Connor ranked ahead of them for now. They're both going to share. They're both guys that aren't necessarily desirable, but at least Connors got the better track record than Najee. Um, did you see his comments by the way, he didn't interview nowadays with the chargers about how like there wasn't an identity, like a clear identity for the offense in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That surprised me because usually you think of the Steelers and you think that they do have a good identity, at least with their run game. Uh, but he says that they didn't have it. I thought that that was mildly interesting. This is, this is where he's going to go somewhere between, let's just call it 48th and 60th round five is that range. And it's just because of volume and the hope that he scores a lot more touchdowns than he ever did in Pittsburgh. You ever seen the movie identity? John Cusack? No, it's good. Maybe it's good.
Starting point is 00:37:29 It's about like, it's like 12 stranded at a desolate Nevada motel during a nasty rainstorm. 10 strangers become acquainted with each other when they realize that they're being killed off one by one. It's very, it's a very good movie. How long is it? Uh, I don't know. Two hours, right?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Sure. So that could have been two Sopranos episodes for you? I haven't seen this movie in a long time. Would you take the following running backs ahead of Najee Harris? James Connor? Yes, I would. Nope. Aaron Jones? No, I would not. Hold on. I'll get back to you. Tyrone Tracy? Yes. I'll. Nope. Aaron Jones. No, I would not. Hold on Heath. I'll get back to you.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Tyrone Tracy. Yes. I'll take Najee. Jalen Warren. Nope. Najee. Heath? This is all entirely dependent on events that are going to unfold in the next
Starting point is 00:38:22 two months. I know. I know. Like more than most of the players. I know I can say that about a lot of guys, but it is way more about that with Najee Harris. I think there's a chance that Najee Harris is not available in any drafts this late. And there's a chance that nobody wants to take him this early. But even at best case scenario,
Starting point is 00:38:40 they don't add any running backs and he's the lead. They don't add any running backs? They add a day three running back. Yeah, they'll add running backs, but. Well, they get one of the any running backs and he's the lead. They don't add any running backs. They add a day three running back. Yeah, they'll add running backs, but. Well, they get one of the Michigan running backs. Is it a day three running back I like? I mean, it's still. I guess the way everybody's gonna view it.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Like, is it, did Devin Neal fall to day three or something? And I think if it's not a name that people were excited about before the draft, then Najee is an easy top 48 pick. Oh, in full PPR? Yeah. I don't know that I'd do it.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I just don't know if he's good enough. Like, Dobbins is an explosive player and he made big plays. Najee never does. Never. So, that's, I don't think I'd take him in the top 48. I definitely see your point. I definitely see your point. I mean, that would be taking him where Chuba Hubbard went.
Starting point is 00:39:31 This is the range of, like Dave said it best, you know, end of round four to the end of round six, you know, is where he's going to most likely come off the board. And I think even if they do bring in, you know, a day three guy, this is where he's going to go. Even if you like that player to Heath's point, I did just happen to see the athletic release their beat writers mock draft today. And they had Omarion Hampton going to the Chargers in the first round.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Like that's, there's no way he's going to get us. Yeah, that'd be bad. That'd be bad for Naschi. in the first round. Like that's, there's no way he's going to get us. Yeah, that'd be bad. That'd be bad for Najee. Okay, so let me just say, I'm looking at- Remember, it's only a one year deal. So, you know, they're very much still in play to bring in somebody else,
Starting point is 00:40:16 but they also did the same thing a year ago. You know, they brought in JK Dobbins and Gus Edwards on short-term deals just to see what they had. And, you know, again, the landing spot for Najee Harris could not have been any better until we see what happens with the NFL. Well, they got a lot of ammo because they got a lot of comp picks.
Starting point is 00:40:34 They have four sixth round picks. Sixth round picks. So if it's a sixth round running back, I'm gonna like Najee Harris a lot. They could trade those sixth round picks to move up in the third round or the fourth round to get someone they like, you know, whatever, but let's, let's go to the Steelers wide receivers, DK Metcalf,
Starting point is 00:40:56 seven picks after George Pickens. I didn't get that one at all. I don't get taking either one of them this early, honestly. Metcalf I could see in this range, I mean, you know, when you're talking about the receivers are still on the board here, it starts to get a lot of questions. So you know, can he be the guy with whoever the quarterback is and get back to north of 14, 15 points per game? I don't think he gets back to the 17 points that he had his best season with Russ, but it's just, it's hard to fathom that for Pickens if Metcalf is there with an unknown quarterback situation. That's the thing. I could see either one of these being good picks if George
Starting point is 00:41:39 Pickens is getting traded. If they're both on the same team and you've got Arthur Smith, whose teams have averaged 481 pass attempts over the last three seasons, and he currently has Mason Rudolph as his best quarterback. Like, hopefully George Pickens is getting traded on draft day. No, I totally agree. Like, and the guys that went after him, I'd rather have Judy, I'd rather have Waddle, I'd rather have Ridley, you know, you start to get into the 49ers guys, okay, there's there's questions there, Cooper Cup, there's questions there, Debo question, you know, so this is the range
Starting point is 00:42:12 for these guys. But again, you know, if you're if you're hoping for upside, there's still upside for both these guys. To your point, one's got to get trade. Let's go to round seven and the San Francisco wide receivers. They all went in round seven. Joanne Jennings. And former. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Joanne Jennings, the second pick of round seven. Brandon Iuke, the fourth pick. Ricky Pearsall, the fifth pick. So those were back to back to back receivers off the board. He had Baker Mayfield in between them, but Jennings, then Iuke, then Pearsall. And just for good measure, a few picks later, Debo Samuel went. So yes, like you said, then Pearsall. And just for good measure, a few picks later, Debo Samuel went.
Starting point is 00:42:45 So yes, like you said, former and current wide receivers, four of them in round seven. It was- Yeah, your ice to end the round too. Jennings, Iuke, Pearsall, Debo Samuel. Dave, your thoughts on that group. This is the dart throw range.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I took Ridley over those guys because I think there's a lot more clarity with what his role will be. And I'm, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's Cam Ward at quarterback for Tennessee. And so a Titans team that should be a little bit more competitive, certainly creating scramble plays, that'll work out for Ridley. Maybe he'll be dialed in a little bit more than he was last year. As number three receivers go, I don't hate him.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And I think that he'll be okay. Can we make the case for the upside for any of the 49ers guys that were taken after and throw Debo Samuel in there? I think he can. I think that there's all kinds of upside for all of them. But this is the range where they're gonna go. They're all on that cusp
Starting point is 00:43:43 of being a number three wide receiver and fantasy. Any other any comments here? You want to talk about Calvin Ridley? Calvin Ridley is kind of just sort of exists in this very non interesting world right now because there's been no there's been nothing going on with the Titans basically in free agency except they may they've added to their offensive line. I've read a few people who think that they dramatically overpaid for Dan Moore. Yes. They lost their touchdown guy.
Starting point is 00:44:12 They lost Nick Westbrook, Hakeena to the Dolphins. Which is another thing in favor of Ridley. At this point, how can I get excited about Calvin Ridley after the last two seasons? In this range though, it's perfect. Especially the way Dave's got really a lot of questions. He's receiving core when you look at it. Rashi Rice is the leading guy. Who knows what's happening there? Godwin's the second guy. Ridley's at least the steady factor. I've got a receiver who isn't even on a team. And then Keenan Allen and Keon Coleman, there's a lot of questions there. So Ridley at that spot for him was a fairly solid pick with the hope of Cam Ward elevates him a little bit.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Targets are certainly going to be in his favor. And he had some good moments last year. So yes, it's not exactly a sexy pick, but it's, you know, a good number three receiver, understanding what his roster build is and the hope that maybe he gets a little bit better with an upgraded quarterback. And I think like you might be being a little bit harsh on the last two years for Calvin Ridley, Adam, uh, he played with an average quarterback. He played with an awful quarterback system. He went over a thousand yards both seasons. Like, he hasn't been like top 12, but we're
Starting point is 00:45:37 talking about it, what a seventh or seventh round draft pick. Yeah. And honestly, if they would just lower his ADOT, because that was a big issue with him with Will Levis. Will Levis only knows how to throw the ball super deep. I haven't done it, but I think if we went back and just looked at him with, honestly, with Mason Rudolph, probably some decent production there. Like, I just looked at his last three games. I think they were all, or like two and a half of them
Starting point is 00:45:59 were with Rudolph. 78 yards, 84 yards, 76 yards. On only five to six targets. It's pretty damn good. I think if you're expecting like 75 catches, a thousand yards and six touchdowns, it's pretty solid production. Just tough to pass up somebody in the 49ers offense who could be the lead receiver in the 49ers offense. I would think that if you say right now Brandon Iyuk is going to miss half the season or get
Starting point is 00:46:25 straight right and there's no holdout for party, then the 49ers guys upside is probably better than what Calvin Ridley can give you. Which one of those two guys it is, that's that's the dark throw to Dave's point. You know, there's a dark throw range. If you say Iyuk is ready for week one, then it's a little bit more of a mystery bag, right? Because, you know, who's the best of the trio there? Like, could be Piersol based on what we saw the last two games and knowing what his pedigree is. Could be Iyuk based on what he showed us, you know, the first couple of seasons of his career. Jennings last season was very up and down, but still
Starting point is 00:46:58 finished 14 points per game, you know. So there's a lot of questions there. So, you know, really probably a little bit safer. So again, roster build, Dave didn't, and I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but maybe not wanting another receiver with some question marks, at least get somebody that can give him some consistent production.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Actually, let's go rapid fire here through the rest of these so we can have time for some emails. Jacoby Myers getting an upgraded quarterback. He went at pick 8.1, just ahead of DeAndre Swift and Josh Downs. You could say DeAndre Swift also a winner here. So Jacobi Myers, first pick of round eight,
Starting point is 00:47:31 ahead of Swift and Downs. Heath. I took Downs. I was very, very upset that I didn't get Myers or Swift. Very good picks at this point in the draft. Christian Kirk went with the sixth pick of round eight. Jamie. I mean, I drafted him. I was, you know, pretty happy to get him in the spot just as a fourth receiver with, you know, the opportunity to still be a top 30 ish guy.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I don't think he's going to get much higher than that, but, you know, 12 to 14 points per game in an ideal world. You know, he's kind of been living in that 12 point per game range for the majority of his career in Arizona and in Jacksonville, you know, on the, you know, hope that he's still going to be the second receiver for the Texans, assuming they don't add anybody or Tank Del comes back based on the current construction of their team. So I like it. Dave, Gervonta Williams went with the eighth pick of round eight, just ahead of Travis ETN and Tai-Jay Spears. Gervonta Williams. He's a lot like Najee. I don't think adding Miles Sanders is the last thing that Dallas will do with their backfield. If you knew that Gervonta Williams was going to be just the
Starting point is 00:48:38 passing downs back for the Cowboys, would you take him in round eight? No, I don't think you would. I think you'd take him a couple rounds after that. And that's where I would expect him to end up going. So this feels a little too soon. Sorry, Shafie. Dave again, Evan Ingram went one pick after Javante Williams, 8.9. And that was right after Dalton Kincaid as well.
Starting point is 00:48:58 They were tight ends 10 and 11. Four tight ends went around earlier. Sam Laporta, pretty good value for Laporta, round seven. Agreed. Sam Laporta, John who Smith, David Njoku, Travis Kelsey. Then we had Kincaid and Evan Ingram in round eight. I would have taken Ingram where I took Ridley if I hadn't have taken Trey McBride at the end of round two. Oh, I'm going to like Ingram this year. I think he's got a shot to be the second best target getter in Denver, can make plays after the catch and come back to being like double digit PPR points per game. That's a fun way of saying 10 PPR points per game, which is
Starting point is 00:49:41 good for a tight end. It's not amazing. You would have taken the that'll make him top 10. He'll be a top 10 tight end in fantasy. You would have taken the Porto over him. Oh, if he was there, of course, because he was there when you took Ridley. Okay, that's fair. But he said if he didn't take McBride. Well, obviously, I and the joku too, like there were a bunch of tight ends that I love there. I actually this draft may I'm sorry, James, this draft made me think twice about round two capital. Oh, you are falling for the tight end trap again. Come on. You got your stud in round two.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Twenty fourth. He's a bride. I will say I hate the Kincaid pick of where it was, especially since that manager already had Brock powers. But I don't know if you saw what Brandon Bean said recently. I hate the Kinkade pick of where it was, especially since that manager already had Brock Bowers. But I don't know if you saw what Brandon Bean said recently. I don't know if it was this week or the last couple of weeks addressing for HC. He said that they probably should have shut down Dolan Kinkade.
Starting point is 00:50:34 He was really banged up with his knee. So hopefully there's some bounce back potentially. I still think again, you know, taking him in round eight is too soon, especially after you already have Bowers. But if you get past the top 12, 14 tight ends, you're looking for a second guy with upside. I think he's a good late run pick. I just, I know it's rapid fire, but if you're going to draft a Jag at tight end, just wait
Starting point is 00:50:54 until the double digit rounds, in my opinion. Well, I tried to do that and I kept waiting and it did not really work out for me. I wanted to take Tucker Kraft. I did not not, I knew Dave loved Tucker Kraft, but I didn't think he was gonna take Kraft in round 10 when he already had McBride. Of course he took him in round 10, one pick before me. And then I was like, all right, I'll get Jake Ferguson. And somebody took Jake Ferguson one pick before me.
Starting point is 00:51:17 So I took Hunter Henry. So I honestly think that's not the worst pick, Hunter Henry, but it's not a very good pick. I'll be playing the way we're wired at tight end in this league that we're not playing out. I would be 0% surprised if Hunter Henry scores more fantasy points than Dalton Kincaid and Evan Ingram next year.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I'd be surprised if he scored more than Ingram, but. I just don't understand where you started with Quinton Johnson, after Kraft went off the board, why didn't you not take a tight end there? I didn't think any of that. Well, I would have taken gambling that I wasn't going to take craft. You're saying after that, though. No, you took craft. David is taking craft. Then you went Quinn John, like you went Quinn Johnston, Austin Eckler,
Starting point is 00:51:58 Richardson, Don Tavian, Wicks, like, why did you wait and wait and wait and wait and wait? Who was I supposed to take? We just said Ferguson was the guy that you wanted. I mean, he's not that good. Like, I'd rather take Eckler. Neither is Quinn Johnston. Neither is Austin Eckler. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You cannot sit here and tell me to take handcuffs over second quarterbacks and then tell me Austin Eckler is not that good. Austin Eckler does catch passes and he's got huge upside if Brian Robinson gets hurt. I would have had no tight end if I had taken Jake Ferguson or Hunter Henry. I disagree. I would have taken the tight end there. You could have gotten Austin Eklund around later. I don't know. I mean, quick trivia, Adam, who was the only tight end last year who had more than 50 targets and less yak than Evan Ingram.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Hunter Henry? No. Nijeroku? Zach Ertz. Oh, Ertz? And they were very close. I could have taken, maybe where I took Wix, I could have taken a tie. I really thought I would be able to get Ertz
Starting point is 00:52:59 or Ferguson or Henry and they went, Ertz, Ferguson, right before I picked Henry. But hey, if Drake, look, the Patriots haven't done anything significant at wide receiver. Henry had a pretty significant role. Unfortunately, Hooper was kind of annoying. We were not doing us the Fond Diggs Emergency Podcast later today. No, actually, that'd be kind of interesting. But no, not coming off Tony SEO. Anyway, that's going to do it for our free agency
Starting point is 00:53:25 talk. Let's go to some emails, fantasy football at CBSI.com and some Apple podcast questions. This one is from Brock 10 team PPR single quarterback league. I am planning to draft running backs at 107 and 110. Who should I draft? Travion Henderson, Quinchon Judkins, Caleb Johnson or tight end Tyler Warren Henderson andinchon Judkins, Caleb Johnson or tight end Tyler Warren. Henderson and Judkins from Ohio State, Caleb Johnson out of Iowa, Tyler Warren at tight end. Yeah, so how do you guys, like Heath,
Starting point is 00:53:56 before the NFL draft, do you even have rankings for those four? Yeah, I don't think that Henderson's going to be available, but he is currently definitely my favorite of the group. I would currently, like I pretty much have Johnson, Warren and Judkins in a tier and Henderson in a tier above them. Landing spots going to determine, but if I had to guess right now, I'd go Judkins, Warren,
Starting point is 00:54:21 Johnson ranking those three. Oh, well yesterday I was on Henderson Island when we asked which running back, which Buckeyes running back do you like better? I guess I have some company there. You do have some company. Let's go. All right. Let's go to our next question.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It is from John. Yes, I didn't put a, okay. I messed up the format of the email. Sorry. John is in a half PPR league. He is a contender. He needs help with who he will keep. I can only keep two at each position and five overall.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I am keeping Bijan Robinson, Jamar Chase and C.D. Lamb. Yeah, you're a contender. I can keep two more players out of the following Brock Purdy or Drake may David Montgomery, who's fairly cheap or Ken Walker, who's very expensive and George Kittle. I don't know what the costs are, but I would go Kittle and Montgomery if it's that much of a difference in cost. Agreed. Is it Super Flex though?
Starting point is 00:55:30 No. Oh yeah, then Kittle's easy and probably the cheaper running back. Yeah. Okay, cool. This is from Sports Nerd 07 on Apple Podcast. Grade the trade. 10 team, 1QB dynasty league. It's PPR. I get Jordan Addison and a 2026 first round pick.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Congratulations. That's good. It's 10 team league. I give up pick 203 204 and 309. What? Picks 13 14. nine. What picks 1314 two twos and a three for Jordan Addison and a first. Yeah, that's you won that deal by about seven miles. Why? This is amazing. Way to go sports nerd. Yeah, I don't. Good. Good job. This is a brag email. Not a plus. Seriously. It's a good one. It's a good one. But picks 203 and 204 in a 10 team league
Starting point is 00:56:27 this year. It could be some good running backs there. Super duper. You know what's going to be good in a 10 team rookie only draft next year? A first. It's 2026 first. Yeah. All right. This is from Matthew 10 QB. Nope. 10 team one QB PPR league. I can only keep one. I hate those 10 QB league. Oh 10 team, 1QB PPR league. I can only keep one. I hate those 10QB league. Oh man, this is tough. Saquon in the second, it's not that tough.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Saquon in the second, neighbors in the, ooh, it is tough, neighbors in the fifth, Jayden Daniels in the eighth, JSN in the 16th. To only keep one? Yeah. And you said one QB. One QB, he'll Barkley in the second, neighbors in the fifth, Daniels in the eighth,
Starting point is 00:57:10 JSN in the 16th. And it's just funny because in the draft that we just talked about, JSN went like three picks after Malik neighbors. Yeah, I'm taking JSN. JSN. I was gonna lean toward neighbors. Same, but that was, it was between those two.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Oh man, neighbors in the fifth or JSN in the 16th. Yeah, both tremendous values. I get it. I get why you guys would take JSN. It's like taking your last pick and turning it into a second rounder. What about this? If you can wait until after the NFL draft,
Starting point is 00:57:43 which I assume you can, if the Giants get Cam Ward, I would take neighbors in the fifth. If the Giants don't have, like even if they get Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers or Cam Ward, I'd take neighbors. Anyone else or Jamus, anyone else I'd take JSA. I'm taking JSA.
Starting point is 00:58:00 The value is amazing. It is. That's pretty good. All right, and this is from Shawn. How long can you keep them for at this value? I don't know. And I'm not asking. So like that's another factor. If we're talking about like, you can keep JSN as a double digit round pick
Starting point is 00:58:14 for like five years or something like that. Yeah. That that's the keeper. If it's a one year deal, then I don't mind neighbors. Uh, this is from Shawn. Superflex 12 team dynasty, strong contender, but I'm weak at running back. I have Bucky Irving, Brian Robinson, and James Connor.
Starting point is 00:58:31 They're my only startable assets. I try to build depth, but I'm seeking to trade that depth as I prepare for this year. So I would trade Ray Davis in a mid fourth round pick for Jonathan Brooks. And I would trade Kamani Vidal for Adonai Mitchell. Those are fine trades. I think I'd probably do both of them.
Starting point is 00:58:55 It does nothing to solve your problem about not having good running backs this year. Right. Does it help? It's actually not horrible this year. I mean, you're talking about those three guys assuming Connor stays healthy. Like, I mean, Bucky's a number one running back.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Connor's just getting healthy and number two running back. And Robinson's a great number three. Like, you're banking on Jonathan Brooks hopefully coming back in 2026 and being what we hoped he could be. But it's such a big if at this point. So I might hold on to Vidal just to see like through the NFL draft, at least if you can. But I would make the move for Brooks now. I mean, he was a first round pick last year and now you're getting him for Ray Davis and a fourth. I don't even
Starting point is 00:59:37 know if I do that. Yeah, that me too. Like James Cook goes down, right? Exactly. Ray Davis can win you your league based on how your team is set up. Hopefully that's not But me too, like James Cook goes down. Right. Exactly. Ray Davis can win you your league based on how your team is set up. Hopefully. That's not that Brooks is not playing this year. Mostly. Nope, but it sets you up to have some running backs. Hopefully something in 2026 and beyond.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Would you trade for this manager who has Bucky Irving, Brian Robinson and James Connor? Would you trade Ray Davis and maybe the mid fourth round pick, but I would offer without it for Cedric Benson, or Trey Benson, for Trey Benson. Not Cedric for sure. David's in a fourth for Trey Benson? Yeah, it's a backup guy. Yeah, I would.
Starting point is 01:00:17 But I don't know if the Benson manager would take that little form. No. Right. You're, I mean, you're hoping that Jonathan Brooks is Jonathan Brooks. It's funny. This is almost my entire backfield in your league. Bucky Irving, Bucky Irving Brooks, if I had not traded Bucky Irving, how much different
Starting point is 01:00:38 my team would look? That trade haunts me. Haunts me. Yeah. All right. Speaking of haunting, go watch identity. I enjoy that trade quite a bit. I'm sure you did. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody. Thanks, Bigsby.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah. And Wondell Robinson. Wahoo. After that first week, you really won the trade. That was the week Bigsby went for 100 yards and Wondell had a 7.8 cash game. You were gloating. I'm not a gloater. I don't believe that for one second. Oh, look, it's my podcast award. All right. Well, talk to you on Monday.
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