Fantasy Football Today - PPR Mock Draft Review! It's All About the TEs? (06/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 28, 2021

Follow the draft here: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/fantasy-football-june-ppr-mock-draft-reflects-risers-and-fallers-like-davante-adams-kyle-pitts-mike-davis/ Tight end strategy played a big part in this mock draft, and we'll get into that. But first, let's debate Stefon Diggs vs. Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill (3:30)! Is there a case to be made that Diggs is the safest? Then we've got news and notes as a couple of AFC teams made some offensive line changes (14:30) ... Getting into our 12-team, PPR mock draft, we look at how Adam, Dave and Heath structured their teams through five rounds (19:15). Who did it best? Did Adam completely screw up his team by taking Travis Kelce fourth overall? We review Dave's team, then Heath's team (27:06), then the Round 4 RBs who might make you cringe (29:30) like Mike Davis and Josh Jacobs ... What if you are picking 10th or later? How can you go about putting together your squad (36:05)? And finally we look at WR battles (42:35)! How were the Bengals, Cowboys, 49ers, Jaguars, Dolphins, Raiders and Colts WRs drafted? ... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Hey, what's going on, everybody? Happy Monday. Welcome back from what was hopefully an awesome weekend, or for Heath, what was hopefully an awesome week. And even Schrager was on a little weekend vacation. Everybody's having fun. It is summertime.

It's time to get excited about football. Look at a mock draft we did a couple of weeks ago. And yeah, here we go. I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Heath Cummings. Welcome back, Heath. Hey, thanks. I missed you guys. Missed you too. Yeah. In your stead, Dan Schneier was on an episode last week. He was on the

mailbag episode. He crushed it. He was great. He'll be back on later this week. We have a great team here. Very happy to be working with you guys. I'm sentimental today. Dave? Are you putting in your two weeks or something? Dan Steyer's replacing me. No, no.

You know what? It's a fun time of year. I actually really like it when there's not a lot of news in the NFL. So you don't want to work is what you're saying. No, this is actually a good time to work. You can dig into some things and find some. I did a lot of tight end, not a lot,

but I did some tight end research over the weekend. And tight end was a big theme in the mock draft that we did. We had the three, four, five picks. Heath picked third. I picked fourth. Dave picked fifth. Heath, you have Andrews, right? I took Andrews in round five right after TJ Hawkinson. Right. So you took Andrews. I? I took Andrews in round five, right after TJ Hawkinson.

Right. So you took Andrews. I took Kelsey. Dave took Kittle. So it was important for us to grab an elite tight end or a top six tight end, and we'll see how our teams played out. Also want to remind you that the link to the mock draft

is in the episode description. So if you're watching on YouTube, you'll be able to see the results. Schrager's going to put those up, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday as we go. If you're listening and you can, please check out the link to the draft. It's in the episode description.

All right. I wonder what the weakness is on everybody's team that took a tight end early. So what's the weakness on Heath's team? I know what the weakness is on my team. Adam, you took Kelsey so early. There's got to be at least one weakness in your squad. And then another person, Andy Singleton, took Kyle Pitts in round three. What's the weakness in his team? And if there is no weakness, if we truly look over these teams and we don't see a weakness, then I think that that's a

sign of a great draft, obviously. But typically, if you're going to take a tight end early, especially if you're starting three receivers, there's going to be a weakness there. Can you live with the weakness that you put forth with your team? That's a great question. There will be a weakness, but just because you have a weakness on draft day doesn't mean it's going to be a weakness throughout the course of the season.

Correct. 100% true. We should get into this a little bit more when we talk about our teams and the tight ends that we took. i think that that's the give and take that you have with tight end this year is that if you're going to take one early you're you're gonna have to make up for it somewhere along the way whether it's on draft day or during the season and i will say also like not always but for the most part if you have a weakness at tight end on draft day, you're probably going to have a weakness at tight end for the rest of the year. Right? That's a good point.

Let me read an email of the day. This is not really... Oh, this gets me fired up. Oh, okay. Okay. Cool. Good. It's from Kyle. Where's Kyle from? I guess he's either from Buffalo, New York or from College Park, Maryland.

Wrongtowned Wrongville. Hey, Troy, Lionel, Hank and Dr. Nick. Heath, do you know them? No. Okay. It's the Simpsons. Yes. Troy McClure, Lionel Hutz.

Those are Phil Hartman characters. I'm guessing Hank Scorpio and Dr. Nick. After listening to the entire top five wide receiver show last week, I was shocked at how little respect you are putting on Stefan Diggs' name. He was brought up here and there, but it was largely a debate on

which excuse you like more to have Tyreek or Devante number one. The problem is Diggs has a higher floor and just as high or a higher ceiling in PPR. He writes a really long email here. So I'll sum it up. Diggs had a lot more catches than Tyreek Hill ever has had. Tyreek Hill has to deal with Travis Kelsey.

Diggs does not. And Kyle expects a little bit more production from the running backs in the passing game in Kansas City, but not in Buffalo. Arguments against Devante Adams is Aaron Rodgers. His QB. Really? Are you sure? That was a great argument.

That was the best argument, maybe, in the whole email. Respectable run game for Green Bay. And what about his targets? Blah, blah, blah. 18 touchdowns, not sustainable. You just blah, blah, blahed his email. No, it's a long email. Too long, 18 touchdowns, not sustainable. You just blah, blah, blah at his email.

No, it's a long email. Too long, didn't read, he wrote. Diggs is the alpha and a pass-heavy offense with an improving quarterback with no competition from running back or tight end. High floor, high ceiling. And then he added

a Daniel Jones stat. Jones graduated from Duke University in December 2018 with a degree in economics. So thank you for that. All right, So I look, I think he brings up some good points.

The Heath does it. Kyle thinks Stefan Diggs should be wide receiver. What? First off the Stefan Diggs has a higher floor and just of high of ceiling. When he did last year, what Devante Adams and Tyree kill have done for each of the past three years does not compute in my head.

And I know Tyreek Hill had the year two years ago where he had some injuries, but on a per game basis in the games that he played a complete game, he was just as good. He's been almost exactly the same guy in terms of fantasy points per game. And that's right around 20.5 fantasy points per game, which is what Diggs did last year. We saw Diggs. You can make the argument that he went to Buffalo and was unleashed and is just going to be this good forever. have a 27 year old 26 year old wide receiver who bests his career yards by four or five hundred yards and catches 30 more passes than he's ever caught you should not bet on him being that good for the next three to four years now there's there's a little bit of a change here because he had a new quarterback but again j Josh Allen took that leap last year. And for the most part, we've seen the young quarterbacks that take that leap don't just continue on that trajectory forever,

or Patrick Mahomes would be throwing 100 touchdowns per season by now. They flatten out, or they come back to earth just a little bit. The two things that really got me fired up, one was that Devontaeams is not going to have is going to find it hard to repeat his 140 plus targets he had 140 plus targets in 14 games last year he's been on pace for at least 169 targets each of the past three seasons yeah um and like 111

or more catches each of the last three seasons and I don't really like the fact that Tyreek Hill has to compete with Travis Kelsey he's had Travis Kelsey on team each of the past three seasons when he's been every bit as good if not better than Stefan Diggs so I don't really care about that I just and then finally what if Josh Allen regresses well what if he continues to improve like he has every year since coming into the league. That's just not the way that it works. Like you just don't continue to get better every single year of your career.

Yeah. But yeah, I agree. Do you think, but the thing is the only argument for not the only argument, an argument that he didn't even make, I don't think unless it was in that email was that digs was probably pretty unlucky with touchdowns i mean alan threw 37 of them and digs

had what eight eight whereas adams had 18 and hill had 15 receiving and two rushing so he had like 28 of the targets and 20 of the touchdowns something like that um that's roughly uh so i don't know you could see more touchdowns from digs i i would agree except that like if you're telling me that digs gets 166 targets or or 10.5 targets per game again this year and catches 77 of them like he did last year, then yeah, he should score more targets or he should score more touchdowns. Yeah. But he, it was,

it was 40, it was 20% of the team's touchdowns, not Josh Allen's Buffalo through 40 touchdowns. And he had eight of them. All right, Dave, you want to weigh in quickly here? I just think there's more upside with Tyreek Hill and Devante Adams

catching passes from Aaron Rogers, because we've seen it from them before. We've seen Adams finishes a wide receiver one in PPR two of the last four seasons it's because of high volume it's because of a high touchdown rate Tyreek's got the potential to do it too we've seen him finish very strong over the past four seasons certainly not the season where he didn't have Patrick Mahomes the whole year but outside of that he's been really good and Diggs was awesome last year. Allen playing better was a huge part of it. All the hallmarks I talk about for breakout quarterbacks,

it happened there. Josh Allen proved it. And I think that they'll continue to be strong. I like him as my third favorite quarterback to draft. I see him as a pretty safe floor fantasy receiver, but I don't think he quite has the ceiling of Tyreek and Devontae. But still a receiver I would love to have on he quite has the ceiling of Tyreek and Devante, but still a receiver I would love to have on my team when the running backs dry out, when the tight ends are

gone in those early rounds. Yeah. To be clear, all those things I said, I'm still taking Stefan Diggs early in the second round. I'm not, nothing bad about Stefan Diggs. I just don't think it's reasonable to say he has a higher floor in the same ceiling as two guys who have done this thing that he did last year for three years in a row. Okay, let me just... I think that, Heath, you might be holding his Minnesota seasons against him a little bit too much. If he had just...

If the only year you ever knew of Stefan Diggs was his Buffalo season, right? Uh-huh. So you're wanting to hold his Minnesota, I'm not holding his Minnesota seasons against him, but you're wanting to pretend as if his Minnesota seasons just didn't happen at all. No, I mean, look, he was really good in Minnesota. Obviously, he wasn't this good, but he finally had the chance to be the alpha, to truly lead the team in targets in a runaway fashion, with a quarterback who threw 38 touchdowns.

Kirk Cousins hasn't done that. And you look at, I'm sorry, 37 touchdowns? I keep forgetting. More than 12. More than 12 touchdowns. 37. Basically, what I'm saying is Mahomes threw 38 touchdown passes. Allen threw 37. Tyreek Hill caught twice as many touchdowns as Stephon Diggs.

Diggs had a lot more catches. Diggs, I'm pretty sure, averaged more yards per game. I mean, Diggs led the NFL in receiving yards. Yeah, he absolutely averaged more yards per game. A lot more yards per game than Tyreek Hill. In terms of yards per game and catches per game, Diggs and Devontae Adams were almost identical. And then in terms of touchdowns, Aaron Rodgers threw 48.

We don't expect that to happen again. And Josh Allen threw 37. And even with that gap, you wouldn't expect 10 more touchdown catches from Devontae Adams. That's basically the entire gap between Rodgers and Allen. So what I'm saying is, if this was the only year you knew of Stephon Diggs, I think it'd be pretty reasonable to rank him number one because there is, I think that floor is pretty, I think that's a good point about his floor. If it was also the only year of Adams and Tyreek Hill,

I would be closer to agreeing with you. But it was the best year for Adams. And Adams and Hill had done it three years and Diggs had done it one year, even if Diggs had never done anything else. Adams has not done it three years though. This was his best year by far. Who? though. This was his best year, by far. Who? Adams. This was his best year, by far. It was his best year, by far.

He did it for 12 games. But he didn't do... Okay, if you just look at points per game, I think I'm looking at PPR, 25.7 last year, and Diggs was at 20.5. Adams was better than that. That's not even close. No, it's not, but it was all touchdowns. I mean, legitimately, it was

the touchdowns. It was 10 more touchdowns. Right, so wouldn't you rather have a receiver that gets a lot of touchdowns? That's been something that's been consistent with Devontae Adams since he's been in Green Bay catching passes from this quarterback. Yes, I would, but Diggs has more touchdown potential than what he showed last year. I'm making the case. But not as much touchdown potential.

It's not reasonable to say he has the same touchdown potential. I don't think. Right. They have shown year over year. I agree with you too. I'm just, I'm just trying to give my, give our listener a little,

it's not going to be, it's not going to be surprising if digs catches 10 or 11 touchdowns, but that's kind of what you expect from Devante Adams. It also wouldn't be surprising if digs finished up with six or seven touchdowns. But that's kind of what you expect from Devontae Adams. It also wouldn't be surprising if Diggs finished up with six or seven touchdowns, which if Devontae Adams finished with six or seven touchdowns, you'd wonder, well, what happened and why did he only play eight games? And I want to clarify, I wasn't saying that Devontae Adams had done what he did last year for basically the last three years. I was saying he's done what Stephon Diggs did last year in terms of fantasy production for basically the last three years.

Adams in PPR finishes wide receiver one, twice, wide receiver six once, and wide receiver 12 over the last four years. In the year he finished wide receiver 12, Aaron Rodgers was hurt for a huge chunk of the year. Yeah, but last year Stefan Diggs averaged three more

fantasy points per game in 2020 than Devontae Adams did in 2019. Yes. So let's not just completely... I'm arguing against myself here because I agree with you guys, but I don't think it's a horrible email here. And Daniel Jones did graduate with a degree in economics. We're going to be playing poker.

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who Washington released for cap reasons not long ago. And Pittsburgh signed Trey Turner. And David DeCastro, their longtime starting guard, he might retire. He needs ankle surgery. Won't play this year for the Steelers. Did we talk about Najee Harris at all

in regards to this? We've been talking about it ever since he got drafted by the Steelers. But this is just another little ding. Is it? I think that Trey Turner's not really been good.

Last year he wasn't good. I can look up his grades. I think David Castro's been pretty much regarded as better than Trey Turner, hasn't he? I think both of them were not graded high last year. Trey Turner was. They were both excellent in their day. Turner was hurt a lot last year,

as I recall. He was a massive flop. The run-blocking grades for DeCastro plummeted after 2017. Okay. He was at an all-pro level. And then 2018, 2019,

they were bad. It got worse in 2020. His pass-blocking was fine. But his run- run blocking wasn't good that's according to our friends at pro football focus i'm going to trey turner right now trey turner last year i believe it was the same thing yeah his run blocking grade was terrible but yeah like adam said he didn't really play a lot and he hasn't really played consistently uh for much of the last four seasons but his grades were actually he he started his

career in carolina really strong and then his grades have tapered off since then so it's probably a bit of a downgrade obviously just just by looking purely at his pass blocking grades trey turners have been poor compared to de castro and de castro was a good pass blocker as recently as last year how many offensive linemen do the Steelers have who would grade just as average? Can we just say that they have a terrible... They have on paper what looks like a terrible offensive line. The worst offensive line.

Awful, awful, awful. It's a sore spot. It's the only thing that's holding Najee Harris from being a top 10 pick in fantasy. And he's close to that already. There are people that are ready to take him. He's 12th in best ball right now. Sure, sure.

Can the talent overcome it? Can his talent overcome what they're doing? And some of it has to be, you've got to look at the line that they're building. They're going to be physical. They're going to use more power running scheme. Maybe that'll help them because they're not going to do a lot of zone blocking,

but we'll see. It's just funny because like conventional wisdom in the industry over the past few years has really shifted towards situation matters. Running back doesn't in most regards, there are certain running backs who definitely do. And with Najee Harris, it's kind of like we're just ignoring the situation and his talent is going to have to overcome it. But when you say situation, there are more than one.

It's not just the offensive line. It's the touches. I think that's when people look at the situation, they look at the opportunity. To say it's a good situation for that, you would have to hope that they are going to go back to throwing to their running backs like they did before they had juju dionte it's happening that's going to happen yeah i think people are banking on that happening right well i mean you just look at the track record of the offensive coordinator that's coming in

and they're just going to do things a lot differently than what they did last year and here's a running back who can catch the ball out of the backfield but they're just going to do things a lot differently than what they did last year. And here's a running back who can catch the ball out of the backfield and make plays with it. But they're talking about not throwing it short as often. But we're going to see more throws and running backs. I think that that's the thing that's going to continue is that they will continue to throw it short. But Heath, even if teams throw the ball deep,

they still have... Can you think of a team that throws the ball deep and still throws to running backs? I mean, Tom Brady still threw to running backs last year. I know it wasn't one guy, but Fournette was getting a lot of catches. I don't know. Running backs can still have a role.

Tom Brady has wide receivers who mostly succeed down the field. All right. Okay. Are you saying that the Steelers receivers can't succeed down the field, or are you saying that the Steelers receivers don't have a quarterback that can help them succeed down the field? I don't know.

Maybe both. I'm going to wrap this up here. The Jets, though, with Morgan Moses, that's an upgrade for them probably. It'll be a tackle. Yeah, that line used to suck. Yeah, it could be good. It could be good. That's a good pick.

The Steelers should have signed him. Okay, let's get into our mock draft. Here we go. Remember, the link to the article is in the episode description. You can follow along there. 12-team league, full PPR, three receivers, two running backs, three receivers, and a flex. Heath had the third pick. I had the fourth pick, and Dave had the fifth pick.

So how about that? I did a Twitter poll. Now, I'm not going to go through all the results. I will tell you round. I guess I'll just give you rounds one and two real quick. But next week, I want to do a live mock draft where then we can start really figuring, going through the order. I'm not going to just read the results, but I'll give you rounds one and two. It was McCaffrey, Cook, and Henry with the first three picks. As an experiment, I took Kelsey fourth. We'll see how it played out. Dave took Kamara, then Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, Zeke, Eckler, Aaron Jones. The first 10

picks are nine running backs and Travis Kelsey, who went fourth overall. Tyree Kill was the first wide receiver taken. He was 11th, then Joe Mixon was 12th. Round two, Diggs, Chubb, Najee Harris, Cam Akers, DeAndre Hopkins, Devontae Adams went with the sixth pick of the second round. Calvin Ridley went after that. I just hit a button, so give me a second. Here we go. Calvin Ridley, Antonio Gibson, Justin Jefferson, A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcalf, and Terry McLaurin.

Some young, look at that run of year two, year three wide receivers. Jefferson, Brown, nope, sorry, year two, then year three. Jefferson in year two, then A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Terry McLaurin. Okay, so that's the first two rounds. I want to just talk about how we went about structuring our teams. And so I put up a little Twitter poll. Since we had picks three, four, and five. Heath three, Adam four, Dave five.

Which team had the best start in a full PPR league? Three wide receivers and a flex. Was it team A? Derek Henry, A.J. Brown, Titans fan. Keenan Allen, Mike Davis, and Mark Andrews. So that would be Heath's team. It's funny because Adam's team also looks a lot like one of my teams. Well, I wish it had been because I got the fewest votes.

Henry and Mike Davis, A.J. Brown and Keenan Allen, Mark Andrews. Team B was my team. Kelsey, Jefferson, Swift, Jacobs, and Cup. So that would be Swift and Jacobs, Jefferson and Cup, and Cup. So that would be Swift and Jacobs, Jefferson and Cup, and Kelsey. And then Dave's team, Kamara and Gibson, then Kittle, then Woods and Deontay Johnson.

So we each have two running backs, two wide receivers and a tight end. Dave's are Kamara, Gibson, Woods, Deontay Johnson, and Kittle. And Dave won 46% of the vote. I got 20% of the vote. I got 20% of the vote. Heath got 34% of the vote. I was going to guess that Heath won.

That's interesting. I think Mike Davis in round four probably scares some people. Maybe. Dave went running back, running back. Heath went running back receiver. I went tight end receiver. And again, Dave's team.

I really liked your start, Dave. Kamara, Gibson, Kittle, Woods, Deontay Johnson. And that is an argument against taking Kelsey with a top five pick is that you can even get Kittle a little later in the third round

according to ADP. If you think they're close, then Dave got Kittle in the third round. But yeah, all right. So what do you think about the way you started? I loved it.

And it's probably the way I'm going to recommend that everybody start drafting their teams this year is just to go with running backs early on. When you've got a top five pick, and we might be able to extend this to the top seven picks this year, you're going to find a running back that you'll love, someone that has the potential to have big games every week,

average north of 18 PPR points per game, come through with double-digit touchdowns over the balance of the season, certainly be a candidate to score no matter who they play. Easy start option, obviously. Your first-round pick, you're going to start no matter who they play. But then you also want to find running backs that can come close to that or exceed that as long as you can in the draft. And I think Gibson does have a chance.

I think his upside is top five. And I know that sounds a little silly to say, but he scored a lot of touchdowns last year. His coaches are talking him up like he's improved as a player this year. I'm sure he's going to continue to see a lot of opportunities in this offense. And that offense should be better overall with Fitzpatrick under center, threatening downfield a little bit more. So Gibson's one of those running backs that I look at and say, okay,

he's got that upside. I can get him in round two, happy to take him. And then my strategy with tight ends is that if I can get one at a fair value or better, I'm going to go for one early. So when I was up at pick five in the first round, I didn't think Kelsey was a good value he was gone anyway he had been there uh i i don't think i would have taken him there but i was absolutely i would consider kelsey wouldn't make it back to me in round two but waller and kittle

i would consider at my spot in round two depending on what was left at running back and gibson was there that was an easy call for me to take the running back ahead of the tight end. And I wouldn't have been upset if I didn't see one of those tight ends, make it back to me in round three. In fact, I wouldn't expect it to happen. And at that spot, I'd either go receiver if there's a great receiver left or just take the best available running back to really load up at that position. But I got lucky. I feel like I got lucky. I know the ADP says that Kittle is there in round three, but I'm thrilled to take him there and kind of issue the top 10 at wide receiver to get that stud tight end that's going to give me a positional advantage over the majority of the league. And in fact, I think I've got an advantage just because I've got these two great running backs

that I think will catch a lot of passes and or score a lot of touchdowns, plus the tight end that should finish top three. If you had known when you picked Antonio Gibson in the second round that you could get Clyde Edwards-Ziller in the third round, because he went two picks after you took Kittle, would you have maybe taken instead of you? Okay, so you took Kamara in round one, then you took Gibson. If you had known CEH would be there in round three, would you maybe have gone wide receiver there? Would you have taken Justin Jefferson

or whoever your highest rank receiver was at that point? I think it's Jefferson. Nope. Nope. So you'd rather have Gibson and Kittle than Edward Ziller and Jefferson. Yeah. But I also couldn't... You couldn't have guaranteed...

Maybe you could have guaranteed me that Edwards-Ziller would have been there in round three. Couldn't have guaranteed that. I mean, he fell... I think he fell... Well, what's his ADP? Kittle's ADP apparently is right on to where I took him in round three. Yeah, you took him, what, 30th?

And his ADP, I'm looking at NFC since June 1st. His ADP is 32nd. Okay, and then Edwards-? And his ADP, I'm looking at NFC since June 1st. His ADP is 32nd. Okay. And then Edwards-Hilaire? 24th, I think. 22nd. Oh, wow. Okay.

Yeah. So I'm obviously not valuing Edwards-Hilaire like the majority of the world is. I don't know if any of us are. That's just how I'm rolling. Heath, what format is this for NFC? Is it PPR? Half PPR. Half PPR. That makes a difference. And it's a ppr uh half ppr half ppr that makes a difference and there's a lot of best ball drafts in there okay um all right so that's how

dave started his team he did not take a wide receiver until round four took the best available wide receivers in rounds four and five you all can my six round pick is where i'm really happy you can figure out if you like Dave's receivers enough in a three-receiver league with a flex that's full PPR. He's got Robert Woods, Deontay Johnson, and T.Y. Hilton. And he found the weak spot. Yeah. Michael Carter is his flex.

His bench receivers are Paris Campbell, Gabriel Davis, Jalen Rager. So, all right. That's Dave's team. No question. I've got work to do. Heath, how did you feel about your start? You came in second place in the poll. Derek Henry, A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, Mike Davis, and Mark Andrews. I

liked it, and even after looking at it today, I still like it, but I do think that I kind of made Dave's team win the poll with a couple of decisions that I made that are unpopular. One is Derrick Henry at three over Alvin Kamara. And if Drew Brees were still the quarterback, I would not do that. It's quite possible Jameis Winston starts 16 games, and I regret doing that. If Taysom Hill starts

16 games, I don't believe I will regret doing that. In fact, I think I would be very pleased that I did that. 17. Yeah, well, if Taysom Hill starts 16 games, I think that you're still going to regret it. Regardless of who starts that 17th game. Okay.

But the more interesting decision, I think, is that we've talked about it. The third pick is frustrating. It doesn't feel like there's anybody who should go third to me. I'd rather have four or five. I can feel more justified. But the other decision was at the end of round two,

I chose A.J. Brown over Darren Waller. And early in round three, I chose Keenan Allen over George Kittle. I don't imagine that the second of those decisions is very popular, but I actually have, like I had a little bit of strategy with both my two, three turns

and my four or five turns. Keenan Allen was my top player available when I took AJ Brown. Yeah, I was going to say, I was surprised you didn turns, Keenan Allen was my top player available when I took AJ Brown. Yeah, I was going to say, I was surprised you didn't take Keenan Allen ahead of, you just figured. I didn't think anybody else would. Yeah, you were right.

And then Mark Andrews was my top player available when I took Mike Davis, but I didn't think anybody was going to take him. So like that worked out well for me, but I also, and I went and looked at it today because when I took Mark Andrews the top wide receiver of mine available was Cooper Cup and I thought that was a good pick by you

in round five Adam but for me the difference between AJ Brown and Cooper Cup is bigger than the difference between Darren Waller and Mark Andrews the difference between Keenan Allen and Cooper Cup is different bigger than the difference for me between George Kittle and Mark Andrews.

So I'm going to take those top 10 wide receivers there. Yeah. Yeah, I think the Mike Davis pick. So there was a run of running backs at the end of round four, right after Dave took Robert Woods. I took Jacobs. He took Mike Davis.

Then it was Miles Gaskin. Then it was Travis Etienne. I'm not sure if any of the four people who drafted there are like, yes, I got my guy. I mean, I don't feel that way, but I think Jacobs is fine. The running back who went before them was David Montgomery. And then it was three wide receivers. And then it was Jacobs, Mike Davis, Miles Gaskin, and Travis ETN. So what were your emotions when you took Mike Davis as your RB2? Because when I took Josh Jacobs as my RB2, I was like, fine.

It's fine. I was still kind of flying high from the fact that I was going to have a team that I drafted this year that didn't have Josh Jacobs on it because you took him right before me. Because basically, Josh Jacobs' ADP in our mocks has been

when does Heath take him? And I don't like... This is going to sound a little bit crazy but in my full ppr projections i project mike davis to score more points than clyde edwards lair so i'm pretty happy to get mike davis at the end of round four when clyde edwards lair is going in the middle of round three okay and then let's let's see how Heath's team played out. A little more conventional drafting than what Dave and I did

because he took his tight end in round five. I took mine in round one. Dave in round three. And let's take a look at Heath's team here. Shraggy B, if you got it. Coming. All right. So Heath has Joe Burrow.

I didn't go through all Dave's team, but I should have. And it has Joe Burrow. I didn't go through all of Dave's team, and I should have. And it's so much fun. I've got Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence. Right. Which means it's not that much of a weakness. I don't know if that's your weakness. I think RB2 might be your weakness.

I'm sorry. If you assume that Mike Davis plays well, it's not as big of a weakness. He drafted Mike Davis where you draft a number two running back. Yeah. Okay, so quick experiment. I feel like that's not the right weakness to point out.

I don't know if there really is one. Read the team. Yeah, all right, all right. Burrow, Derrick Henry, Mike Davis, A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, and D.J. Chark, Mark Andrews, Robbie Anderson. Burrow and Lawrence are his quarterbacks. He also has Tevin Coleman, Darrington Evans, Melvin Gordon.

Definitely could be useful. And Latavius Murray, who got a chance to be incredible. Let's do a quick experiment here comparing my team to Heath since we both took... Well, obviously you have Derrick Henry and I have DeAndre Swift, so it's a big difference there, but we both took our second running back in round four back-to-back. I took Jacobs

and you took Mike Davis. Your other running backs, just for depth, are Coleman, Melvin Gordon, and Latavius Murray. Mine are Mostert, Drake,

Madison and Pollard. Dave, do you see a big difference in either of those stables? Yeah, I don't like Heath's running back depth. I think you have better depth than I do. I think it's, I think that's the,

the first glaring weakness, but that's a weakness, and I'm using air quotes, that I think everybody can live with. When you're putting your fantasy team together, okay, so I don't have great running back depth. Really? I don't know that he can live with that. Because I think

he's good at receiver. I think he got very fortunate with getting Keenan Allen when he did. No complaints about Robbie in the flex we'll see about charke as a third receiver he's fine or you could put charke in the flex and put robbie as your third receiver and antonio brown in the and i was going to get to ab like that's a great receiving core that kills my receiving core yeah so why so i think the difference in our teams is the back-to-back picks in round seven you took robbie anderson and i took raheem mostart and i just feel a little better having another

running back option since but but you do have derrick henry i had swift as my rb1 i had swift and jacobs then i took mostart in round seven you have henry and uh mike davis and i mean when i think clearly has a higher floor um thaneem Mostert in PPR. And I'm just not sure, like, if everything goes right for Robbie Anderson, everything goes right for Raheem Mostert. I think I'm still starting Anderson over Mostert most weeks. Adam's receiver depth is very shaky with John Brown, Amari Rogers, and Terrace Marshall. Yeah, that Terrace Marshall. Yeah, that's pretty bad.

That being said, you're starting three receivers, Jefferson, Devante Smith, Cooper Cup. They're awesome. Well, maybe.

If Mostert doesn't, if Mostert doesn't get the job done, you're going to have a problem at flex. And if one of your other running backs doesn't get the job done on top of that, you're going to have holes for days in your lineup. You guys like Mostert and Drake a lot more than Melvin Gordon? Mostert, I think I've got them all very close together.

Drake is third for sure. Yeah, I like Gordon ahead of Drake. I didn't take Drake ahead of Gordon, did I? No, I was just saying we were comparing depth, and my best bench running back is Melvin Gordon. I think yours are Mostert and Drake. Mostert, unfortunately, as a starter for me, he's a flex.

Oh, right. So your number one backup running back is Kenyan Drake. And mine is Melvin Gordon. But no, but that's not entirely true because I could use Gore. I could use most started at running back and put a wide receiver. Okay.

Okay. No. So most are it's most versus Gordon, I guess in theory. Yes. But, but you have Robbie Anderson and I have, yeah, right. I it's Mostert versus Gordon. I guess in theory, yes. But you have Robbie Anderson and I have... Yeah, right.

I have Mostert. But, right, I guess I prioritized running back a little bit more because I was weaker at running back. When did you take a quarterback? Russell Wilson in round seven, I believe. So I think that's a big part of the difference. I took him in round eight. Russell Wilson in round eight, and you took Burrow in round 12.

And then Trevor Lawrence in round 13. So maybe what Heath has proved is that if you are going to take tight end, and we've talked about this before. We used to say you can't take a quarterback in a tight end with your first five picks. Yeah, I didn't. So I took Wilson in round eight. Neither did I, but I did in my first six picks.

I didn't. And I think if you do commit to taking a tight end early, you should probably wait on quarterback. I think Wilson around eight is waiting. We can say Joe Burrow is Heath's weak spot, but it's not really. Like, he did good. Burrow and Trevor Lawrence as a combo platter at quarterback.

It's totally fine to start the season. All right. So those are picks three, four, and five. What if you had a later pick? How did some of those later teams look? Some different ways to start. I looked at picks 10, 11, and 12. Pick 10 was David Mendelsohn, a guest drafter with us. Pick 11 was Samantha Praviti, another guest.

And pick 12 was Dan Schneier. So pick 10 looked like this. This was the first sixiti, another guest. And pick 12 was Dan Schneier. So pick 10 looked like this. This was the first six picks for pick 10. Running back, running back, running back was the start. Aaron Jones, Najee Harris, Chris Carson, DJ Moore, whose phone is ringing.

It's my house phone. No one's active enough to go get it right now. Your what phone? You have a house phone? We still have a house phone. Telemarketers, we like to talk with them. All right. The kind you plug into a wall?

Yes. Holy cow. Okay, so I'm sorry. Pick 10. Do you really want me to get into why or not? No, no. God, I want to get into pick 10. Aaron Jones, Najee Harris, Chris Carson, DJ Moore, Brandon Ayuk, Kyler Murray.

That's how pick 10 started his team. Pick 11 went wide receiver running back, running back. It was Tyreek Hill, Nick Chubb, Miles Sanders, Amari Cooper, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Dallas Goddard. And pick 12 was Mixon Diggs, Julio Jones, Chris Godwin, Chase Claypool, Josh Allen. So that's Dan Schneier who took one running back of those first six picks. And he loaded up at receiver Diggs, Julio, Godwin, Claypool, and then Josh Allen.

I want to see what he did at running back. I don't think I like, because I kind of like the one running back early and then build everything else. I don't think I like doing that and also punting tight end. I guess it's like the Claypool pick maybe I didn't like. Is there a running back you could have taken there?

Not really. I mean, when he took Claypool, it was another full round, basically. It was 11 picks until another running back went, and it was Chase Edmonds and Javante Williams. His RB2 is Damian Harris. So this team for Dan Schneier, picking 12th, was Josh Allen, Mixon, and Damian Harris.

Diggs, Godwin, Julio Jones. Claypool at flex. Robert Tunyon at tight end. And the Browns Diggs, Godwin, Julio Jones, Clay Poitflex, Robert Tunyon at tight end, and the Browns DST. That's good. He also has Trey Sermon, Giovanni Bernard, Jamal Williams. He has Tyler Higby, who I think a lot of us will have ahead of Tunyon.

Michael Gow. Yeah, I don't know. I don't love it. It's like, yeah, as you said, Heath, we have one running back who also doesn't have any elite tight end. Yeah, I don't know. I don't love it. It's like, yeah, as you said, Heath, we have one running back who also doesn't have any elite tight end. Yeah. There are enough question marks about Godwin and Julio Jones and Chase Claypool.

I don't think all three of them are going to hit. I think one thing you take from this is it's not very fun to pick 12th. Yeah, but that's the case. I like picking 12th. No matter what you do. His strategy was probably just taking the best available players

each time he was up and he made sure to get one running back that he could build around. The modified zero RB, as the kids call it. He also went modified zero quarterback and modified zero tight end because he drafted one of them. Well, he had Josh Allen. The price he paid for loading up at wide receiver and getting joe

mixon was to get a low end starter at tight end and quarterback or not quarterback at tight end i should say and at number two running back quarterback he did pretty good but that's again part of the price that he paid you understand what i'm saying yeah yeah it could work out except it's gonna work out if he... It's going to work out if he finds another running back. That's really what it comes down to with modified zero RB is that you're going to load up

at all the other positions, which he did at quarterback and wide receiver, and one running back spot. No, but that's the thing. We cannot forget... Could he have taken Chase Edmonds over Chase Claypool

and felt better about his life? Dave, we cannot forget how bad Joe Mixon was last year. We can't sit here and look at this team and say, oh, he drafted Joe Mixon. He's totally fine at RB1. That's a different conversation. But that's part of it.

If you're going to go with this one RB approach, you've got to feel pretty damn good about your one RB. I could have had Chubb. He could have had Akers. He could have had Najee. He could have taken Gibson if he really had conviction over Gibson. He obviously had conviction Chubb. He could have had Akers. He could have had Najee. He could have taken Gibson if he really had conviction over Gibson. He obviously had conviction over Mixon.

Convixon. He should have taken Devontae Adams. Should have done. Well, let's say he had. If he started with Adams and Diggs, when he's up in round three, who are the available running backs for him to take? So if you push every...

David Montgomery was the best running back. Josh Jacobs, Mike Davis, Miles Gaskin. If you push every running back down one, because he would not have taken Mixon. Who's to say that somebody that took a receiver wouldn't have taken a running back? I mean, maybe, but Miles Sanders and David Montgomery could have potentially been his two picks in rounds three and four.

If he had gone Diggs... If you feel good about those guys, then you could have done that. Well, I'm just saying you should have taken Adams over Diggs. You didn't have to take both Adams and Diggs, but you should have taken the Montee Adams. Okay, let's see. I want to have taken the Vontae Adams. Okay. Let's see. I want to look at the wide receiver battles.

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and a flex. So where did the Bengals wide receivers go? Jamar Chase, round 5. Tyler Boyd and Tee Higgins back-to-back in round 7. Boyd with the first pick of round 7 t higgins back to back in round seven boyd with the first pick of round seven higgins with the second pick of round seven chase round five then boyd and higgins around seven heath i think in full ppr i like the value on all of those i have chase at 50th so the very very early in round five i have boyd and higgins both at like 66 and 67 i do currently in full ppr have boyd one spot ahead of higgins that feels like something that

might change and i might just not be able to pass up the upside of higgins especially if we get more steam on this jamar chase playing more in the slot i think that would would be very, very bad for Tyler Boyd. Yes. Can I take a quick detour here? I forgot to do something important. We're giving away our spots on the Scott Fish Bowl. So here are the winners. Oh. Make sure I have them.

Just out of nowhere here. Yeah, I completely forgot. At J-E-P-O-D-E. Yeah. Okay. At K-Jones0053. Yeah. At G-J Eckert. G-J Eckert.

Yeah. At live... Is he related to Austin Eckert? Mm-hmm. Live from Kevin. At live from Kevin. And at Logan ride an hour to congratulations.

Now, I think we go right now. I think you're gonna be wrong. I usually am. Okay, so those are the Bengals wide receivers. How about the Cowboys wide receivers? Dave Amari Cooper second pick over the fourth round. That's 38th overall

CD lamb four picks later. And Michael Gallup, we never really talk about. Last pick of round nine. Seems right about where I would expect them all to go. Cooper had a lamb. Most of the time, that's what you're going to see, and they'll be no more than 10 picks apart.

And then Michael Gallup will be much later on in the draft. Where did they go again, the first two? Round four, second pick of round four, and then four picks later. Cooper, second pick, and then Lamb, four picks later. Yeah, I think if my choice is at those costs, I may just take Gallup.

Gallup is, he went right after Corey Davis and before Devante Parker. Yeah, I... I'm kind of coming around. I definitely like Gallup better than those two. So it's been about two full seasons of Cooper and Prescott. If you just look at the last eight games of 2018,

then all of 2019, and then the first six of 2020, his 16-game pace, Amari Cooper's 16-game pace, 91 catches, 1,247 yards, eight touchdowns on 133 targets. 91 catches, 1,247 yards, eight touchdowns. Do you think either Cooper or Lamb gets that production this year? Per 16 games, I guess. No, I think Cooper is the one

in line to get it because he's demonstrated it. I think it's going to be a lot of zone coverage against this Cowboys defense. I think the teams aren't going to man them up very often. You can't. I don't think. Well, it depends on your personnel and how good your front

four are, but I just have a feeling that Cooper is still going to be a primary target for Dak, and I think that CeeDee Lamb will still be a primary target for Dak, which makes me nervous about Gallup, even at the round nine price.

Actually, I have Gallup as a round ten pick. Brandon Ayuk. Let's look at the Niners. Brandon Ayuk in round five, just after Jamar Chase, Kenny Galladay, and Tyler Lockett. And then Debo Samuel in round seven. Again, I like Ayuk better than Samuel, but if they're two rounds apart,

I'd probably rather take Debo. All right. I'll get the debate going. Debo Samuel was one of my least favorite picks. Same. It was Ben Gretsch's pick. I told him, actually, while we were doing this show. In round seven? Yeah, I didn't like it.

He went just after Beckham, just before Brandon Cooks, Will Fuller, Jarvis Landry. Okay, I would much rather have Cooks than Debo. Yeah, Cooks is one of my favorite picks. But I would strongly prefer Debo to Odell Beckham. I can't do that. Not me. Even with all the horrors that are Odell Beckham's stats

over the past several seasons, I still think that he can return better value as a No. 3 receiver than Debo can. I see Iyuk ascending. I see Kittle being healthy. I see a quarterback question mark where once the 49ers flip the switch to Trey Lance, then maybe all bets are off for all three of those pass catchers.

But Debo, to me, is someone who is going to get schemed up a little bit more to get work, but it's not going to be a lot of work. He's in that five to six target per game range, whereas I think Ayuk is a little bit better than that and Kittle's a lot better than that. And I'm nervous that he's going to underwhelm as a top, even like eight round

pick. I don't think I'm drafting Debo this year based on ADP. I think I have Beckham and Debo pretty close in terms of receiving production. It's just the rushing production for Debo. And I don't think like you can't count on what exactly it's going to be, but I would expect he's going to score 15 to 20 more points than Beckham does in the running game. My issue with Debo is that there has not been a Niners player with more than five touchdowns under Kyle Shanahan. And I, I just can't see him doing it.

I can't see him having more than five touchdowns. Of course it could happen. You know, could always be wrong about those things. But if that's his upside, what's, what's his upside? Yeah.

I just, I just don't see it happening. And I don't see three good players in this passing offense on the Niners, and I believe pretty strongly in the other two guys. I think this is more about me thinking Odell Beckham was drafted too high than thinking that Debo fell too far.

Where did Odell go? Just before him. So let's go to the Browns then. Beckham and Landry were both around seven picks. Landry went five picks after Beckham and Landry were both round seven picks. Landry went five picks after Beckham. I'll tell you one thing I really have noticed about Beckham with the Browns is he has been, he doesn't get a ton of targets, we know that, but he has been a matchup dependent guy

and he's had a pretty tough schedule. He played, what, five games last year? He faced Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Washington and he struggled against them. He had 74 yards and a touchdown against the Bengals. He had a huge game against the Cowboys. And that's basically what he was in 2019, too. He had one of the toughest schedules.

So that's something to keep in mind. That's going to happen playing in the AFC North. Yes. Yeah. I'd rather know when to start and sit a guy because I think if he has a good matchup, he's showing he can be really good. And then on the other hand, with Landry,

if you look at Beckham, Beckham is the most injury-prone wide receiver in football. So Landry, on draft day, may not look that great, but he's one injury away from being the number one target on the team.

How'd that work out last year? It was interesting. He got a lot of touchdowns toward the end of the season. If you recall, after Beckham got hurt, they had a series of terrible weather games, terrible.

And then Baker Mayfield got a lot better later in the year. And in the last six games of the season, I think it was Landry was, uh, kind of a stud in a deceiving way. Cause he didn't have a ton of yards per game. Well, he did cause he had one huge game,

but then you had like a lot of like 60 yards. He kept scoring. Um, I take that in the seventh round. I think it, but then he had a lot of 60-yard games. He kept scoring. I'd take that in the seventh round. I think it was the second-to-last pick of the seventh round, too. That was definitely worth it there. I don't know. What do you guys think? Is round seven

good for the Browns, guys? Too early for me. I've got Odell and Landry both outside of the first seven rounds. I think you'd have to be pretty reachy. Not pretty reachy, a little reachy to got Odell and Landry both outside of the first seven rounds. So I think you'd have to be pretty reachy to, not pretty reachy, a little reachy to get Odell there. Definitely to get Landry there. We used to say that Landry was always a good value no matter where you took him. But I'm not sure if he was last year because you might have started him early in the year and he disappointed you.

And then when Odell got hurt, you probably started Landry again. And he let you down maybe the weather played a factor and then once you said okay no more jarvis landry then he started to perk up we'll see we'll see how he does but i i think he's like i don't know adam i i think he's at best a number three fantasy receiver i think you can find you can draft wide receiver threes in round seven but the kind that you get there you're hoping have a little bit more upside than what Landry gives you. Okay. And I think Beckham has five games in his Cleveland career under 30 yards receiving and two games over 100.

I'm just not sure that he's as good as he used to be. And it's a very, very low pass volume team. And their defense got even better, so I don't think that's going to change. They have a lot of other receivers that they like there, too. If Adam's right about the schedule, and

Beckham's 100% week one, we've got a lot of ifs and ands, he starts off with the Chiefs and then the Texans. You could just get two good games from Beckham and then trade him. I don't know about the Chiefs. No the Texans. You could just get two good games from Beckham and then trade him. I don't know about the Chiefs. No, I don't either. Snead is their second-year cornerback.

He's got the potential, I think, to be kind of a lockdown guy. The reason I say the Chiefs is I think the Browns are going to have to throw it 35, 40 times. Right. Yeah, right. Look, I think I've kind of come to the conclusion. I feel like I like Beckham a little bit, if I can get him in round eight or later for sure. But I know he's just not a he if you're like, oh, this could be someone I start every week. I think the chances are pretty small. But if you think that he's a matchup guy, then hey, you might be able to kind of play the matchups and get a good player. Sometimes at least. Okay, let's go to the jaguars guys dj charke in round

six lavisca chenault in round eight marvin jones with the last pick of round 10 heath charke in six chenault and eight jones and 10 yeah charke i took that's right where i've got him so i feel pretty good about that one i i currently still have Marvin Jones ahead of Chenault. And so I like Marvin Jones' value there a lot more than I do Chenault's. Okay. I'm the same.

Will Fuller in round seven, Jalen Waddell seven picks later in round eight. The Dolphins. Fuller in round seven, seven picks later, Jalen Waddell. I'm fine with Fuller in round eight? The Dolphins. Fuller in round seven. Seven picks later, Jalen Waddell. I'm fine with Fuller in round seven. I probably prefer to wait a little bit longer on Waddell, but if you like him, you got to have him, then round eight is the time to take him.

I have them both in round seven, but I would rather take Waddell. There's a chance that Waddell plays 16 games in this. Good. 17 games. Yeah. I'm telling you, we need a swear jar every in this good 17 games yeah i'm telling you we just swear jar every time you say 17 games or anyone uh john brown in round 10 henry ruggs with the first

pick of round 12 i just so you know i take john brown in every draft um yeah, I don't know that I've drafted a Raiders wide receiver this year. They're bench guys. You're hoping that Brown can be what Aguilar was for a span of last year. Right. That's as long as he stays healthy for it. Ruggs has all kinds of upside. Like that rugs is a great dart throw to be impatient with. If you see in the first couple of weeks of the season that he's

just not that guy for the Raiders, you can drop him. They're not a bad passing offense. Derek Carr is like a 4,200-yard guy. They're going to be throwing a lot, too, because their defense is miserable. It's just that every year, they're towards the bottom of the league in the percentage of their targets

that go to wide receivers. If it's only one wide receiver... Aguilar was useful last year. I think basically Aguilar, if you got that kind of production, that's worth a 10th round pick. What kind of odds can I get on Hunter Renfro leading the Raiders wide receivers and targets?

I'd give you a pretty good... I'd give you a 4-1. 4-1? Because he was only five targets behind Aguilar last year. Let's go four to one. Four to one deal. Okay. Dave, how much should we bet?

Um, I thought we were betting like, I would have been like double that at least. Oh, I'm taking Dave's odds. Yeah. Right. Uh, Colts, Michael Pittman, first pick of round nine,

T.Y. Hilton, round 10. I like T.Y. as a bench receiver, and unfortunately I had to draft him as my number three receiver. Pittman is the one that's got the upside. I absolutely love both of these values, and I'm trying to figure out why neither of these guys are on my team. It's funny. Pittman basically had one good game last year.

It's he's big. It's the type of receiver that Wentz gravitated toward in Philadelphia. Because his ADOT was like eight yards. He was not a downfield guy at all last year. As a rookie, no. They used him a lot on shallow stuff.

They used him in the slot last year. He was more outside, but they used him in the slot. Maybe he could be a different guy. He's not a burner, but he looks fast. He looks like he's got good speed when you watch him. He had a pretty slow 40 time. I don't know if he's a fit for Wentz because he was an underneath guy last year.

He's going to have to change his style. He wasn't an underneath guy at USC. Somebody sent me an article about T.Y. Hilton being a really good fit with Carson Wentz. While I was on vacation, I didn't actually read it. Okay, Heath, how was your vacation? It was really good. I went camping for a night. I smoked some brisket.

I smoked some burnt ends. Did a lot of great things. I love your commitment to it because you could easily say, I put some brisket and burnt ends on the smoker. But there's just an effect when you say, I smoked some, and then people are like, and then they hear the food. When did Heath smoke on vacation? Right, exactly.

Did you go anywhere? I went camping for a night, but no, I didn't go anywhere. Okay. I think I want to take a vacation, a little vacation. I think I'm going to Boston in July, so. Oh, why? That's awesome. Yeah. Have you been there?

Great town. I've been there for like a day. Okay, it's fun. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be there, I think, for a week. Adam, did you go into the New York City like you said you would? I did not. Yeah, I know.

I know. But my friend, I did have a friend come over, which was fun. It was fun to see my friend who is from San Francisco. So don't get to see him often. We saw some live music in the park. We had a very nice weekend. It's good stuff. All right, everybody, enjoy your day.

And we'll talk to you on Tuesday as we look at the top five backfield battles that we're keeping an eye on heading into training camp and heading into 2021. For Schrager and Richard and Cummings, I'm Adam. Azar. I'm Acer.