Fantasy Football Today - Predicting Breakouts; Mailbag (07/29 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

Vote for us for Best Sports Podcast and Best Male-Hosted Podcast! http://podcastawards.com/app/signup/ Dave and Jamey tell you the big news you may have missed over the last couple of days (2:30) as ...we look at how the Dolphins wide receivers are being used and the Packers rookie who is turning heads. We also react to the Ryan Jensen injury and discuss what it means for the Bucs. Then it's time for some Fill in the Blank as we predict some breakouts! Who is this year's Cooper Kupp (6:45)? This year's Leonard Fournette (9:05)? This year's Diontae Johnson (12:50)? This year's Elijah Mitchell (16:50)? ... News and notes including some Cowboys WR talk (21:10). Then we'll read your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com starting with a couple of Christian McCaffrey questions (27:15), strategy for a total points league (33:45), ranking the handcuff running backs (36:25), FAB strategy and more (39:30) ... Your Apple Podcast questions (44:00) and your YouTube questions (58:00)  Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy Friday, everybody. It's almost the weekend. It's almost August. It's almost time for position previews as we'll be beginning those late next week. But today's show is all about you. We're answering your questions at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That is the letter I. If you want to email us, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Also is the letter I. If you want to email us, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Also, leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts. We're reading some of those Apple Podcasts reviews. And if you're watching on YouTube, you know we're going to be reading your YouTube questions as well. Those will be later on in the show. I'm Adam Azer, and I've got Jamie Isenberg here. Hello, Jamie. DK Metcalf signed a three-year contract extension.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Would you rather have the 6'4", 235-pound chisel DK Metcalf or the 5'11", 173-pound noodle Darnell Mooney? Darnell Mooney. But he's a noodle compared to DK Metcalf. That's fine. That noodle will get more targets and might have a better quarterback. Should have a better quarterback. Hello, Dave Richard. Dave is here as well. Dave, Ric Flair
Starting point is 00:02:25 addressed the Titans in camp. Which pro wrestler would you like to have you, give you an inspirational speech, I guess, is the best question there. Who do you want to fire you up? I would like to hear from George the Animal Steel, because that sounds like a short speech, and I can get on
Starting point is 00:02:42 with it. Come on! Kamala the Ugandan Headhunter. What about Jake the snake your boys with him i've already had the speech from jake all right all right so work let me ask you guys we're gonna do today on today's show we're gonna do some uh fill in the blank this year's cooper cup is blank this year's leonard fournette is blank that kind of stuff but before we get to that, what was the most interesting news item that you saw yesterday as it relates to fantasy? Jamie, what comes to mind? Most interesting news item? Yesterday. Yesterday. It seems like it's all bleeding together.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Sure. Recently. Recently. But I've got two. Okay. Go ahead, Dave. You want me to go all bleeding together. Sure, recently. But I've got two. Okay, go ahead, Dave. You want me to go with? Yeah. One, kind of buried inside a story about how fast and elusive Tyreek Hill and Jaden Waddell have looked in Dolphins camp is how they're being used. And lots of misdirection in the offense, lots of play action in the offense. And Tyreek said something about being able to run free across the middle of the the field and both of them were picking up chunks of yardage after the catch
Starting point is 00:03:48 granted it was a team practice it wasn't um with hitting so I wonder if that's just the plan's going to be just target these guys short hope they make plays after the catch should lead to some pretty big weeks for both of them so I I'm excited by that. And I was excited to read about Romeo Dubs stepping up in Green Bay and having a really good day in practice. We know that there are a lot of jobs open in that passing game. We know that Christian Watson's hurt right now. He's not practicing. Sammy Watkins is hurt right now.
Starting point is 00:04:18 He's not practicing. I loved watching Romeo Dubs when he was playing at Nevada, and now he's got a chance to to grab himself a spot in that offense it's a name I'm keeping an eye on and I'll give you credit because you talked about him the second he was drafted basically you've been all about even before that but you loved the draft pick of Romeo Dubs in the fourth yeah I like I like the player and then you put him with a great quarterback like Aaron Rodgers you hope that it can come together I mean it's just one day training Training camp's just open.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I'm trying not to get too excited about anybody, but I've already moved Michael Thomas up in my rankings quite a bit. So I guess I'm breaking my own rule a little bit about getting excited about players. Right. I think so. He's out there. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It's not an exciting thing. It's a negative thing, and it's Ryan Jensen's injury. It's you know, we know Brady hates most quarterbacks hate pressure up the middle, but you know, Brady, since his ACL tear has certainly made that known. And you know, they're talking about, you know, some of the free agent centers who are out there and maybe even bringing back Ali Marpet who played some center for them before. But now you're talking really about three interior linemen
Starting point is 00:05:25 that are missing for the Bucs from a year ago, which was such a huge strength for them. And it's making me a little bit nervous, not so much about the passing game, because I think Brady will still be fine, but a little bit about Fournette, just a smidge that I might drop him, and this is going to make me a little bit cringeworthy to say it, but this is a guy that has looked good in camp so far, you know, speaking of early camp. I'm going to put me a little bit cringeworthy to say it but this is a guy that has looked good in camp so far you know speaking of early camp uh i'm gonna put him behind saquon
Starting point is 00:05:47 barkley i admit i'm starting to drink the barkley kool-aid they are starting to drink the giants kool-aid no don't do that i don't know about all that but no tony tony and wandell robinson with everything that that you're just hearing and seeing it's just been from from many people not just giants beat writers but people that visited camp. It's impressive so far. Yeah, you could drink the Giants Kool-Aid and only be in on two players, I think, and that's Barkley and Tony.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I mean, Galladay's a quite- Robinson's free. Wandale's free. Right, but how is he going to make an impact? How's he going to make a fantasy impact? It's worth a flyer, depending on how deep your draft is. Would you take him over Kenny
Starting point is 00:06:25 Galladay um not yet okay all right so those are some news items um as far as Ryan Jensen goes that Tampa Bay Center knee injury we don't know the severity yet but you know seemed like a bad sounds it sounds like it's a season ender but you're not lowest grade among pass blockers in Tampa Bay among their starting five last year. He had the lowest grade? Lowest grade. But I think probably still not bad, right?
Starting point is 00:06:54 No, it was pretty bad. Was it? Yeah. Alright, that's interesting. But he was good in the run game like Jamie talked about. How about this? Ali Marpet was number one. He retired. Jensen was number two. He's out for the year. And then where's Alex Kappa on the list?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Kappa might have been fourth or fifth, and he's no longer on the team. The entire interior of that line is now going to be different in 2022. So, Fournette, does he still make it as a round two pick? Yes, I think so, yes. And the good news with Fournette, does he still make it as a round two pick? Yes, I think so, yes. And the good news with Fournette based on last year was he didn't really do much.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It wasn't his rushing. He only had 180 carries. He did have eight rushing touchdowns, but it was his pass catching that was so huge for his value. Okay, so let's do some fill in the blank. This year's Cooper Cup is blank. And I'm thinking mid-round wide receiver who becomes, let's say, top five. You know, this year's Cooper Cup or the 2019, the 2020 Stefan Diggs,
Starting point is 00:07:55 that model is blank this year. I will say Michael Thomas. Go right back to it. I'm excited about him. I'm looking for wide receivers that I can push up into the top 15 and maybe even top 12 of my rankings. And Thomas isn't there yet because I'm still a little worried about him sharing targets with Chris Olave and with Jarvis Landry.
Starting point is 00:08:18 But we've seen it from him before. We know that when he gets a high volume of targets, he comes through with some really good numbers. He definitely potential to get i don't know if he's got potential to get like 15 touchdowns but 10 i think we could see him get close to that from jamis winston this year if he's really back to normal if he looks as good as all these videos say um or look like he is whatever i i think he's got a chance to really be one of those guys that you'll draft in round four and he'll give you round one or round two value. Okay, Michael Thomas for Dave.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Jamie, who's this year's Cooper Cup? Of course, the disclaimer is there probably won't be someone quite that good, but you get the point. Go ahead. I love Corlin Sutton. New quarterback. Obviously, we've seen a quality season from him already
Starting point is 00:09:03 with a worse quarterback situation by far, his second year in the league, then he tore his ACL in year three. And he's the big play threat for Russell Wilson, for a quarterback that we know likes to make a lot of big plays down the field. So while Judy's had some struggles early in camp, and Tim Patrick is going to kind of play a little bit of a swing role, Sutton, I think, is locked in as the number one guy, number one option for Russell. And yeah, just a huge ceiling if things go right.
Starting point is 00:09:29 A lot of touchdown potential and certainly a chance for, you know, north of 1,200 yards. Yeah, I like that call. There have been conflicting reports on Judy. There have been some I've read where he doesn't look good and some where they say he looks fine. I've read almost nothing on Tim Patrick and everything about Cortland Sutton.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, first day was bad for Judy yeah okay here's an interesting one from the chat from Broward Bravado Terry McLaurin oh I want to say McLaurin so bad yeah I want to but I just I feel like
Starting point is 00:10:00 he's capped at a wide receiver too I wish he had an even better quarterback than Carson Wentz. Okay. Let's go to our next one. This year's Leonard Fournette is blank. So I'm thinking mid to late round running back. Someone who wins the job in a committee right now,
Starting point is 00:10:19 wins the job, becomes a must-start running back. This year's Leonard Fournette is blank. The one for me is more injury related but i'm going to draft a lot of ramondre stevenson i i mean you know again another situation where i don't think he wins the job uh you know this adam and it's kind of been the case in in preseason so far or practice so far um the last seven games, how they were 50-50 in terms of their touches and snaps. I think Stevenson's going to be – you know, Pierre Strong right now is missing practice. James White is out.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So Stevenson is going to be their passing downs guy if things work out right for him. And just by all accounts, he's had an amazing offseason. So this is going to be one of the most drafted guys in a lot of my fancy teams. I'm really excited about Ramondre. You know, you asked this question a few weeks ago or, you know, maybe months ago, are there any Patriots worth drafting?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Um, Ramondre Stevenson is my favorite by far. Okay. Dave, who's this year's Leonard Fournette? Uh, first, I,
Starting point is 00:11:16 Stevenson just makes me a little nervous because even if something were to happen to Damian Harris, I'm not convinced that Stevenson would be the only guy in that backfield because it's just the way the Patriots' offense rolls. They like to use multiple running backs. I love the talent. I like that he sheds some weight. It's possible that he could be – like, Damian Harris gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Reminder, he's the lead guy. He's a startable fantasy running back. Could he be like a top 10 one? Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't like this question. I don't know if I've got a really good answer for it.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I'm going to say Ken Walker because we know about Rashad Penny, and right now he looks great and everybody's excited about him. And, yes, I've moved Penny ahead of Walker in my rankings. But I also think that Penny is very, very injury prone. You look at the history, and he gets banged up pretty easily. All you have to do with Ken Walker is draft him, wait for him to get banged up, and then Walker's going to be the feature back for Seattle. And I also expect Seattle to improve their passing game.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm waiting for Jimmy Garoppolo to find his way there. It might not happen until late August, but when it does, it'll be better than Geno Smith. It'll be better than Drew Locke. That passing game will make the receivers a little bit more appealing. It'll force defenses to think twice about slamming against the run. And I think Walker's a really good talent. Definitely a player whose ADP continues to slide. I talked about it with Chris Towers on FFT and five. If you're getting him past 100th overall, I think you just draft him and you commit to having him
Starting point is 00:12:39 on your bench for at least half the season. And eventually he will pop for you. Question, follow upup here right and the thing about four net that made him so valuable was that he became an every down back we just did not see that coming when they had giovanni bernard is there anyone i'm looking at the chiefs i'm looking at the seahawks i'm looking at the patriots um maybe mile sanders is there and that was the one i was thinking but i thought it was a little too obvious. Which one? Gamewell? Sanders. Oh. Is there anyone that could become an every down back?
Starting point is 00:13:10 That's why I picked Walker. Because that's a team that is still willing to lean heavily on one running back. They're talking about Travis Holmmer again as their third down back, though, which is funny. When is that? That's okay. I'm not drafting walker i might draft penny for his passing down skills his receiving chops but not walker not as a rookie all right i guess you can maybe say in this category just the the offenses are not going
Starting point is 00:13:35 to be great as you know tyler algier damian pierce you know they have not not leonard for net ceiling by far but you know they can easily win their backfield jobs, especially if Patterson's more of a receiver. And volume will certainly help as opposed to talent. Yep. And Algier would almost certainly be after pick 100 on draft day. All right. Last one or two here.
Starting point is 00:13:58 This year's Deontay Johnson is blank. And what I'm getting at here is Deontay Johnson was a top 12 wide receiver, but he was third in targets. He was fifth in catches. So a high volume guy, maybe a sort of a PPR specialist. This year's Deontay Johnson is blank. When was Deontay drafted last year?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Four? I'll look. I'll look right now. This could be a candidate for Mooney, Jamie. Yeah, the three that came to mind for me, that's why I'm curious about ADP, because I don't want to be too obvious, but would be Pittman, DJ Moore, and Mooney
Starting point is 00:14:35 because of just the target shares that they're going to get. Yeah, Pittman's going to get it. Pittman and Moore are ahead of that group. Hold on. You're looking for someone drafted even later than top 50. Let me tell you where Deontay Johnson was drafted. Oh, I went to 2020. That's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:14:56 No, he was drafted much later in 2020. Yeah, in 2021. Anybody want to guess? I'd say round five. Almost. 45th overall. say round five. Almost. 45th overall. Late round four. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Well, I think Pittman and Moore are going to go ahead of that. Yeah. So Mooney makes sense there. If you want to wait a little bit, I think Traylon Burks, who's already got the clean bill of health in training camp, could be a massive target hog for Tennessee. And then the Hall of Famer, Alan Lazard. The Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:15:28 He said that because Devontae Adams said that he's going from a Hall of Fame quarterback to a Hall of Fame quarterback. Sure, sure. Yeah. One thing, though, is I had a feeling you guys were going to say Darnell Mooney. Pittsburgh threw the ball as much as just about anyone. I don't know. 63% of the time last year.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And they may have led the league in pass attempts. I don't remember. I think it was the Bucs. But Pittsburgh was up there. Andy Dalton for the Bears, he had five games where he started and he finished. 40 pass attempts. There we go. 40 pass attempts per game.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Nick Foles had one start, 35 pass attempts. Justin Fields averaged 27 pass attempts per game in the nine games he started and finished. He also was babied in Henka. So let's take away the first three games where he threw 17 to 20 passes in all three games. Goes up to 31.2 pass attempts per game, which is still way down from Dalton, which was 40 pass attempts per game. The last two starts were very encouraging for Justin Fields. He threw 33 and 39 times.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They actually threw the ball a lot when Fields wasn't under center, but I guess I just wonder if there's going to be enough volume in... Mooney had a 25% target share last year, so he might need even more than that to get up to 140 targets because the pass attempts might come down if Fields is the quarterback all year. Sure. His target share with Fields was 25%, and that's great. But on the season, it was 28.5%. He got way more volume from Dalton than Foles. It was 28.5%?
Starting point is 00:16:53 That's what I've got. Oh, I have it at 25.8%. Oh, that's his target share with Fields off the field. Oh, okay. For the season, it was 25.8%. And I guess with Fields, it was 25%. Yeah, 25% is great. He was still targeted on one out of every five routes.
Starting point is 00:17:09 20% target per route run rate. That's pretty good. Who's a target hog in a high-volume offense? Is there one high-passing-volume offense in the mid-rounds? I don't know if there is one. Well, I mean, Juju? Is he? in the mid rounds i don't know if there is one well i mean juju uh is he man you want to talk about camp riser yeah he's made a couple of highlight reel catches um high volume offense pass offense yeah high line pass offense all right how many games are we projecting for Julio Jones? 18.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Then he would qualify. All right. Well, we'll think about it. Let's go to our last one real quick here. This year's Elijah Mitchell is blank. Waver wire running back who becomes a must start. This year's Elijah Mitchell. See, this is where Algier could have.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Well, Algier is going to get drafted, though. So you're looking for somebody based on what's happened so far already, and I don't know how much he'll get drafted in 14, 15-round drafts, but Brian Robinson. Yeah, he's moving up. Okay, Brian Robinson. It could be like a Zemir White, if he gets healthy by the time the season starts and something happens to Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I mean, obviously, depending on where Jair and Davis Price gets drafted or not. Isaiah Spiller. He's going to get drafted. The problem is that with all these picks. He'll be 40%. What happened to Elijah Mitchell was the starter got hurt in front of him. Yeah, but even if the starter gets hurt in Tampa Bay or in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:18:37 But he was the third string guy. We thought he was the third string guy, Elijah Mitchell. No, he was the third string guy until they made trace urban inactive. You know what I mean? All the reports where the backup is, uh, both those guys. Um,
Starting point is 00:18:53 anyway, yeah, I just, who, who, which handcuff could step in and I'll give you a name. Oh, the irony,
Starting point is 00:19:00 the irony of it all. Raheem Mostert. Could be him.t could be him could be Dearness Johnson who gets traded right Mike Davis Mike Davis
Starting point is 00:19:12 that's a good one could be the same team different back Tyler Beatty alright listen we have a handcuff question later on in the show
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Starting point is 00:20:24 And then once the season starts, we're on Sunday morning starting at 10 a.m. Eastern. I am going to be running a competing league against Adam Azer. We're going to do a fantasy football today, CBS Sports HQ Viewer League. And I'm not going to cap it at 12.
Starting point is 00:20:39 We're going to have a big, monstrous, fun fantasy league. So you have to watch CBS Sports HQ starting at noon Eastern on Monday, and I'm going to give out a code word. I don't know how many days I'm going to do it, but you have to have all of the words to get into the league. It's going to be a lot of fun. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:58 All right. Of course, the podcast league is 14 teams, so, you know, just saying. We don't cap it at 12 either. That's all right. We'll both be playing in all of them. Yeah. Well, that's something certainly to look forward to. All three of us, excuse me, and Heath.
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Starting point is 00:22:03 Now he gets to play video. Probably shouldn't have put it in there. One of the stupidest, best stories I've ever heard covering this league. It's pretty hilarious. It's pretty insulting. Well, it's either insulting or it's necessary. I want to know what's behind it.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Why would you put it in if he didn't? Exactly. Either they're idiots or he doesn't study it enough. And I don't know what the answer is. Well, they're not putting it in if he's a film nerd. And he admitted to not being a film nerd. All right. Maybe it's somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Who knows? Okay. I don't think it's in the middle. Lamar Jackson has bulked up. Murray in the middle? Murray in the middle. There you go. I noticed that about Lamar. Yes. He bulked up and he threw in the middle. Murray in the middle. There you go. He threw it.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I noticed that about Lamar. Yes, he bulked up and he threw with better velocity and tighter spirals. According to ESPN's James. Yeah, it's, it's easy to get excited about him. Uh, and take him over Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Sounds a little blasphemous right now, doesn't it? Well, I think in a four point league, it's, it doesn't. Sure. Would you, would you do think in a four-point league, it doesn't. Sure, that makes sense. Would you do that in a four-point league?
Starting point is 00:23:08 I think I would. All right. Running back news. J.K. Dobbins wants to practice. He's itching to get out there, but the coaches won't let him. Doctors. And coaches. No, just doctors?
Starting point is 00:23:23 I believe the doctors are the ones that are holding him up now. Kenyon Drake is expected to have a significant role in the Las Vegas backfield, according to The Athletic, and rookie running back Samir White is expected to return to practice within the next week. So if you have Josh Jacobs, or even if you don't, if you want the backup there, would you take Drake or Samir White? I think if you're taking a long-term approach, you'd take White. If you're taking who gets probably the first opportunity
Starting point is 00:23:46 should something happen to Jacobs, it's probably Drake. The early reports following the NFL draft where they were going to almost redshirt Zemir White. So we'll see how much they need to play him and want to play him. I'm going to guess they play him. But it sounds like Drake is probably going to have a role in tandem with Jacobs like they intended to last year before he got hurt. Would they not play him if Jacobs stays healthy?
Starting point is 00:24:07 And Zemir Wyatt is a break glass in case of emergency running back for them. He'll probably be inactive every week until they need him. Wide receiver news. DK Metcalf got that extension. $72 million over three years. $58.2 million guaranteed. I guess he will not be buying a lottery ticket tonight.
Starting point is 00:24:25 You guys in on that? $1.2 billion? Probably should be. Yeah, I think I'm going to get a lottery. I'd never buy a lottery ticket. I think I'm going to. I know somebody who's very happy about DK's contract.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Debo. Yeah. If you guys win, you know, a few hundred million dollars after taxes in the lottery, how much would you give to all of your FFT showmates? a few hundred million dollars after taxes in the lottery, how much would you give to all of your FFT showmates? A few hundred million?
Starting point is 00:24:52 Let's say you win 1.2 billion. After taxes, I'll just cut it in half. You win $600 million. I don't know if you'll see me again. How much am I getting before you leave town? $600 million?
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'll give you guys at least $100K. I give $10,000 each to your kids. Okay. Yeah, it's going to the kids. It's not going to you. What if I promise to give it to the kids? It's going to the kids. It's not going to you.
Starting point is 00:25:18 All right. More wide receiver news. Michael Gallup not expected to be ready for week one. That's kind of big news. And he has to miss four games if he stays on the pup list. So Michael Gallup, again, not expected to be ready for week one. So when does Jalen Tolbert enter the discussion here? How does he rank among the other rookie wide receivers, Dave Richard? He's going to be toward the end of that list, but still somebody who's draftable. I'm thinking around 12-plus,
Starting point is 00:25:46 and he's the perfect type of receiver to draft late because he might be usable at the beginning of the year, and if he stinks, you cut him, and you don't even think twice about it. Short-term, he's like a hookup just for the early part of the year, and then you're probably never going to need him or see him again. So would you rather have John Dotson or.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I have Dotson ranked higher. I think Dotson will be better over the course of the season than Tolbert. All right. If you're drafting right now, Romeo dubs or Jalen Tolbert. Tolbert. Okay. Jets wide receiver Corey Davis
Starting point is 00:26:25 has lost 10 to 15 pounds and he feels faster. Cleveland wide receiver Anthony Schwartz had a left knee or just a knee injury, but it was a non-contact injury and that's not good. So hoping for the best for Anthony Schwartz. Jacob Harris is a player on the Rams who played tight end
Starting point is 00:26:41 last year. Now he's converting to wide receiver. I think he tore his ACL who played tight end last year. Now he's converting to wide receiver. Is there any... I think he tore his ACL, too, right, last year? So is there any dynasty value in Jacob Harris? No. Okay. Not as much as it would have been if he had stayed at tight end
Starting point is 00:26:57 because the whole idea with him is receiver playing tight end. He was like the super low-rent version of Kyle Pitts. And now they're going to move him to wide receiver. Well, there goes the tight end. Right. Opportunity out the window. And some defensive news,
Starting point is 00:27:15 Seattle safety, Jamal Adams is going to miss some time with a hand injury. Washington defensive end. Chase young is unlikely to be ready for the start of the season. He tore his ACL in week 10. That was before Chris Godwin tore his ACL. Everyone recovers differently. Jets, they signed linebacker Quan Alexander.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Now, Quan Alexander tore his Achilles in December of 2020, and then he made it back for week one of 2021. So it's hard to predict these things. He played 12 games last year. He played in week one. He missed weeks two to five or something. Kansas City signed defensive end Carlos Dunlap. And that's the end of that chapter.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Here we go to the emails. Fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Got a couple of Christian McCaffrey questions. This one comes from BK. Basically, he wants to know if you guys like Christian McCaffrey. I've had him each of the last two seasons. On the one hand, there's the third times the charm approach. If he's healthy, he's still in a league of his own
Starting point is 00:28:13 and should be first overall. On the other hand, there's the fool me twice, shame on me approach. Since I've done this song and dance before, what would you guys do regarding Christian McCaffrey? Draft him and reap the benefits and cry if he gets hurt again. I think every fantasy manager should make a list of the players that they feel are safer picks in round one than Christian McCaffrey. And you might sit down with a pad and a pencil
Starting point is 00:28:40 and not even write a single name down, and that's okay. That just might be how you feel about it. But make that list and say, i i definitely know that jonathan taylor safer than christian mcafree um some people might say austin eckler safer than christian mcafree i'd rather take the chance on him but make if you make the list and you go into your draft with that list you'll know exactly where you'll feel comfortable drafting mcafree i've got four names ahead of mcarey on my list. I am not comfortable taking McCaffrey first overall, second overall, third overall,
Starting point is 00:29:12 and probably not even fourth overall. So I'm probably not going to get a lot of McCaffrey this year. I still struggle Taylor versus McCaffrey because if he hits, he's the best player by far. Do you have to feel like you're drafting a risky player? Because Taylor's not risky and eckler at least in full ppr doesn't feel very risky just he catches so many passes i feel like the worst case scenario for eckler is he's a back end of round one type of running back and well injury yeah yeah but you can say that with everybody, but not everybody has the injury history of McCaffrey now. But you go to maybe Najee Harris, and maybe there's some more performance risk?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Do you feel like you have to get to performance risky? Obviously, Jamie doesn't. There's no performance risk with McCaffrey. Right, exactly. Do you feel like you have to get to the performance risky guys? Ooh, heard an mm there from Dave. We'll explore that. What's the performance risk with McCaffrey?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Last year, in the five games he started and finished, there were only five, he averaged 22.6 PPR points per game. Great number, but it's not what you used to expect from McCaffrey. Sure, but in two of those, he was north of 24 points. So he had one bad game. He had one bad game.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It was his first game back from injury. He got kind of limited work against the Patriots, I think. The other games, he was in his own little cushion. I mean, if that's what you're pointing to is performance, I'll take that over. No, but he's right. 22 points per game is about seven points
Starting point is 00:30:39 worse than what he's used to. Is it first or second overall good? Yes. For what he gives you, yes you yes well if he gives you more than that of course well it's going to come down to just how healthy he is how much the panthers try and shave off unnecessary touches and play time from him he's obviously going to be used in all the high value situations i think that includes goal line work i think it would be weird if they went to Deontay Foreman every time for short yardage work. There'll be times where they do, but it's not
Starting point is 00:31:10 going to be every single time. You know he's going to be in on passing downs in the two-minute drill and they're playing from behind. I don't think Baker Mayfield is a strike against him at all. I think it's probably good for him if Baker Mayfield wins the starting job there. It's just a matter of how healthy he can be. He's had five separate injuries over the last two years, four of them to his legs, and they're all soft tissue. Well, the shoulder injury might not have been. Well, the ankle's not soft tissue.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah, it is. Your ankle's soft tissue. It's not a broken ankle. It's a high ankle sprain. It's the ligaments. Okay, so I talk about something. I guess i really haven't brought this up in a while but dalvin cook comes to mind dalvin cook in his rookie year he played four games in his second year he played 11 games in his third year he was a second round pick he was the third pick of round two and he finished as i'm trying to look it up now mean, he was at least top three per game. He finished his RB6 because he missed two games, but per game he was RB2.
Starting point is 00:32:09 He averaged 21.2 points per game. He just had a massive season. So he looked like a very injury-prone player, and he's been fairly injury-prone. He's missed usually two to three games a year, but he's mostly been on the field after really struggling in his first two seasons. So you can do with that whatever you will.
Starting point is 00:32:29 All right, second question about McCaffrey. Comes from Jeff in South Jersey. Hey, AJ, Nick, Sam, and Kevin. Huh. It's got an Eagles feel, but also a Backstreet. Yeah, Eagles quarterbacks. But it also has a Backstreet Boys feel. Yeah, Eagles quarterbacks. But it also has a Backstreet Boys feel. It's definitely former Eagles quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Okay. I mean, I feel like three of those guys are in the Backstreet Boys, AJ, Nick, and Kevin. Right, Dave? I don't know who's in Backstreet Boys. Yeah, yeah, it is. We're just missing a Brian. I'm all in.
Starting point is 00:33:01 What did you say? How do you know that off the top of your head? I'm a 90s kid, bro. Come on. And no, I didn't like the Backstreet Boys. But my first girlfriend, our song was As Long As You Love Me by the Backstreet Boys. I'm all in on Christian McCaffrey and DJ Moore for this season.
Starting point is 00:33:17 But even with Baker in town, I know the quarterback situation still isn't the best. Are you comfortable taking McCaffrey and DJ Moore with two of your first three picks in a PPR league? I did that in one draft and I hated it. It's like that's you know, that team's going to hopefully make
Starting point is 00:33:36 a leap. You know, the roster's very underrated, you know, when you look at everything but the quarterback and hopefully Baker is certainly better than what he showed in the first part of camp and obviously what he showed last year um and the fact that you know again you know we we made i think light of this a little bit earlier in this week about training camp battles but it's certainly shaping up as a battle right now uh for these two guys but you know you're asking baker mayfield or god forbid sam donold to support two talents and I don't know if that offense
Starting point is 00:34:06 can do that. Okay. Basically, if you do that, you just say, I don't care who you are, where you're from, I don't care what you did. Oh, you got that. As long as you score points. As long as you score points. Okay. Mark from Lehigh Valley. My main
Starting point is 00:34:22 league I compete in. Iron pig territory. Okay. My main league I compete in isn't head-to-head. It's based on total points accumulated throughout the season. You set a weekly lineup, and at the end of the season, whoever had the most points wins. Does this format change your draft strategy at all? And what are your thoughts on this format versus head-to-head? My thoughts are that it's kind of boring.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't think it changes anything as far as how you set your mind. Have you ever played a Roto League, Dave? Yes. In baseball? Yes. You don't like it? No. I like having the scoreboard.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I like seeing who I'm playing against. Even if there's a secondary matchup each week where you're playing against everybody in the top six teams get a win or something like that. I like having the competitive, you got to beat this guy on the scoreboard. Of course. Yeah. So it's, it's kind of boring, the format, but if I were in a league like that, it's not changing my strategy. I'm still going to draft and use the best players each week.
Starting point is 00:35:24 My lineup is going to be with who I think are the best players i think in this case you might lean a little you know back to mccaffrey like you a little bit a little bit more towards safety you know in terms of health just because you know you're not changing a lot of things well but i think the counter to that and i think heath would make this point because this is how he used to approach roto leagues and fantasy baseball is you don't care about making the playoffs. You need to score those points, so you just take more home run swings. I was going to say, for me,
Starting point is 00:35:51 it would be a little bit more later. That's what I was kind of going at. Okay. You might take a little bit safer approach early, but you take more swings of defense later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point, too. The biggest issue I have with these types of leagues
Starting point is 00:36:04 is that people quit on them very early once they realize they have no chance of of winning whereas if all you got to do is get into the playoffs you have so much more incentives to stay involved so that actually is a big deal in terms of strategy because you got to figure if as long as this isn't a best ball league you know you're going to have a lot less competition on the waiver wire. You're going to be able to pick up better players throughout the year. You're going to be competing against fewer teams, in my opinion. That's what I've noticed in those baseball
Starting point is 00:36:32 leagues, in those Roto leagues. This is Omar. That's a guillotine league without the guillotine. What we just described. Add the guillotine, and then it's a more fun... Then you've got everybody playing all year... If it's a fab league... And then you've got everybody playing all year.
Starting point is 00:36:47 If it's a fab league, then you should spend... Then you should be more aggressive early, because you'll be competing against fewer people, fewer opponents late. Agreed, yes. Okay, this is Omar, a.k.a. Brooklyn Omar. All right, Brooklyn Omar. He wants us to rank the backup running backs.
Starting point is 00:37:03 If all the number one running backs on each NFL team gets hurt, rank their backups based on potential. So you guys don't have to do all 32, but who are the best of the best? If all the starting running backs got hurt, who are the best of the best? Madison is one. He'd be up there. A.J. Dillon would be up there. I've got Dillon ranked like he's the number one. Pollard is obviously up there. Pollard is up there. Kareem Hunt is up there. A.J. Dillon would be up there. I got Dillon ranked like he's the number one.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Pollard is obviously up there. Pollard is up there. Kareem Hunt is up there. Is it a big three of Madison, Pollard, Dillon? I'd throw Kareem Hunt in there, too, and call it a big four. There's probably some more that are close to that level. Benny Snell? Nah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I'm kidding. I don't know if he's good enough. Ken Walker could be on that list. Not the top four, but the next tier. Melvin Gordon could be on the next tier. Stevenson? Gainwell? Ramondre should be on that next tier.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yep. I don't get it with Gainwell. I do want to have the same conversations over and over again so we have new listeners. You guys really like Gainwell, but he was the fourth string guy last year. I just don't know how he would elevate himself. They love him.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They love him. In what role, though? He's going to move up the depth chart this year. In what role? Do they love him as a pass catcher? Because that's what he was. He was the best pass catcher back two years ago. He's not going to be the every down guy if something happens to Sanders.
Starting point is 00:38:29 They're going to use Boston Scott. But I do think that, you know, for most of the leagues that we talk about, you know, PPR, half PPR, he's the higher upside play than Boston Scott. So, you know, I would lean toward him. I mean, you know, lesser tier guys in this conversation, Tyrion Davis Price or Jeff Wilson, lesser tier guys in this conversation, Tyrion Davis price, uh, or Jeff Wilson, whoever ends up being to their,
Starting point is 00:38:47 um, Brian Robinson, uh, Daryl Henderson, Daryl Henderson, Henderson, white pillar, Khalil Herbert.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Uh, somebody said, somebody's in the chat says James Robinson. That's kind of a gray area. No, but he's the second running back off the board for his team in fantasy. He would be, I think he'd have to be in that first tier. Expand it
Starting point is 00:39:09 to five. What about Ronald Jones or CEH? What happens if one of those two gets hurt? If one of those two gets hurt? It depends on which one because I don't think Ronald Jones... McKinnon was the guy in the playoffs, right? Right. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I think they know better than use Ronald Jones and passing downs even when everybody's healthy. Right. So if Jones gets hurt, CH probably takes back over as the main first and second down running back. Well, assuming that he's not in that role already. Right. It's possible.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Melvin Gordon or Mike Boone, whoever ends up being to there. Okay. Just want to make sure we're not forgetting. Hassan Haskins. Is there anyone? Oh, Mark Ingram? Ingram. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:55 We haven't ranked these guys. We're just naming them all. Yeah, but Madison, Pollard, Dylan, Hunt appear to be our four favorites. I think Daryl Henderson might belong in that group. I don't know. No, he's not as talented as those guys.
Starting point is 00:40:10 He's in the second tier. He's in the second tier. All right, this is from Travis. How does your FAB strategy change in different formats such as Dynasty versus Redraft? FAB strategy in different formats.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I mean, clearly in Dynasty leagues, there's not as much talent available on the waiver wire depending on how deep your rosters are so you know if somebody becomes available that you think has high upside you should definitely pounce on it and probably spend a little bit more you know so like last year for example um when we opened waivers in our dynasty league which is a thousand dollar budget and a 14 team idp league which has very deep rosters i spent a good portion of my fab unfortunately so on marcus calloway and tyson williams because the talent pool was not there my roster for the most part was set and i didn't anticipate a lot of guys becoming available throughout the course of the year, which for the most part, most part played itself out that way. Most part.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Yes, it was stinky, but obviously Callaway and Tyson did not turn into the guys I was hoping they would become. So, you know, I wasted money in that regard, but I didn't miss out on anything significant throughout the course of the
Starting point is 00:41:20 season. So it just depends on, you know, what, what, how deep your league are. Obviously redraft, it's totally different,
Starting point is 00:41:24 you know? So, you know, there're going to be guys that come up throughout the course of the season so you want to sort of balance your budget a little bit more unless there's a clear obvious type of guy you know i don't know if elijah mitchell was that obvious type of guy but he certainly seemed to be like that following week one so those guys tend to be a little bit rare you obviously don't want to chase the uh the those those receivers as we're going to joke a lot about after they have those week one performances you know when james washington and not jaylen tolbert has a you know four for 80 in a touchdown game and you're like oh my god no michael gallup and this is the guy and then he disappears for a month you know those type of receivers yeah
Starting point is 00:41:56 all right i feel strategy with fab is i'll spend a little bit each week but i've i've got enough in the reserve to make one big bid when i really really need somebody off the waiver wire okay uh i'm gonna speed you guys up a little bit here just so we can get to the rest of our questions but i do have to go back to the handcuff question because everybody i know but a lot of people in the chat are asking about devon dionte foreman dionte foreman who's backs up christian mccaffaffrey. Where do you guys see him in that picture? If we're tiering these guys, probably third tier. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:32 All right, this is from Tom from The Bucket. The Bucket. Yeah, I don't know. Hey, Corbin, Schmitty, McPoyle, and Attermas. Attermas. I had to look this one up. It's always sunny in Philadelphia. I'm in win now dynasty mode.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Should I trade Deontay Johnson and pick 109 in the rookie draft for AJ Brown? For 2023? Yeah, no. For 2022. Oh, so you're talking about maybe Sky Moore, Chris Olave, maybe Ken Walker if he slips and Deontay Johnson for AJ Brown? Oh, so you're talking about maybe Sky Moore, Chris Olave,
Starting point is 00:43:08 maybe Ken Walker if he slips, and Deontay Johnson for A.J. Brown? I don't mind that. I missed the question. I was looking up which town is known as the bucket. It's okay. Jamie answered. And I got Pawtucket. You can get the next one, Dave.
Starting point is 00:43:20 This is from Alex. Dear Randy, Chris, Adam, and Jefferson. That should say Justin. Those are Vikings receivers. Yeah, but it should say Justin. It's kind of a miss there. One of my drafts this Saturday is a little different. My friends don't like tight ends, so we do a standard team with two flexes instead of one flex and one tight end.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So no tight end required. Yeah, we get this question all the time. So lame. It's half PPR, two receivers. How would you value tight ends since they are? I'm sorry. I hate this. It is such a cop out, but we'll answer your question anyway. How would you guys value tight end since they aren't required?
Starting point is 00:43:52 They tend to go later in the drafts. Um, what, what do you, you know, Dave tight end advice for a league that doesn't require you to, to start one. They are massively devalued. Uh, the exception probably being kelsey although in a in a regular draft where you do have to start a tight end kelsey will be drafted right among the first three wide receivers if tight ends don't matter he's going to be probably closer to like 10 12 14 among those wide receivers andrews will fall a little bit further as well. I think you probably should count on at least a one-round discount for Kelsey,
Starting point is 00:44:29 round and a half for Andrews, round and a half for Pitts, two to three rounds for everybody else. And then once you get to the Zach Ertz's and Pat Fryer-Muse at the tight end position, you don't even bother drafting them. All right, let's do our Apple podcast now. This one is from a name I don't know how to them all right let's do our apple podcasts now this one is from a name i don't know how to pronounce salayu i'm wondering pronounced it okay great can you walk me through why we have ppr why are we awarding the reception and not the yards in basketball
Starting point is 00:44:58 steph curry doesn't get a point for every pass he catches same Same with soccer and hockey. Again, why is football the only team sport to award receptions? Because it helped flatten out the difference between pass catchers and non-pass catchers. And it shrunk the gap between quarterbacks and every other position. That's why it was done. It was done as a way to make it a little bit more of an even playing field for wide receivers and tight ends while also generating more points for running backs who could call the ball the backfield which there was a time where there weren't that many that did it yeah okay a lot of people against more points yeah i think they're against fun yeah they're against the concept of oh this guy just caught a one yard pass and he got a point for it
Starting point is 00:45:46 right you get a bubble screen pass yeah i like i like what the fishbowl does where it's a half point per catch and half point for a first down and if you're not down with that then do a point per first down i think everybody would agree that a first down is important in football yeah do a point for first down yeah but then do you do all that do you do that with quarterbacks as well rushing first downs it's got to do it for do that with quarterbacks as well, rushing first downs? You do it for passing first downs. You could do it with rushing first downs. Yeah, it's a big...
Starting point is 00:46:12 Scott Fishbowl has half a point for a rushing first down, but not a passing first down, so that's a big difference there. Receiving first down. It counts. If you catch a first down. A receiving first down. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's not a bad, that's, I think people get on board with that. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:30 From Trenton, Andrew seven, I've heard many discussions about burrow and how he is currently being drafted too high. What I haven't heard is anyone giving a counter argument to burrow being overrated at his current ADP. So I, maybe he's saying that we,
Starting point is 00:46:43 Oh no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. So he actually... This was a very long one. And he gave a counter-argument as to why Burrow is actually not being overdrafted.
Starting point is 00:46:51 He's healthy at this point last year. He wasn't healthy last year. There were a bunch of things I didn't... Technically not healthy. Right, right, right. But you can give a pass for the appendectomy.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Right. Yeah, so he's making a case. Trenton Andrews is making a case for Joe Burrow at his ADP, which I think the latest I saw was QB6. We're not there, but what do you got, Jamie, what do you think about people who are taking Burrow there? You know, what are they seeing that we disagree with, I guess? the best receiving core in football with Chase Higgins and Boyd. Hayden Hurst making plays. You're seeing an offensive line that got significantly improved. You're seeing a guy that led his team to the Super Bowl behind a bad offensive line.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And so, look, rightfully so, you want to gravitate toward young players on the rise. And he's, you know, as good as any of them at that position. And he has the opportunity to be a top five quarterback. He just, you know, if you expect him to make the leap, he's got to make the leap clearly more so as a passer than he does as a rusher. I know he'll run a little bit more than he did last year because he's a year removed from the ACL,
Starting point is 00:47:54 but he's not going to be Hertz or Lamar or Trey Lance. He's not necessarily in the range yet, at least we don't think, of Brady as a passer, you know, with the 5,000-yard potential and, you know, 45 touchdowns. But he can certainly get there. So if you have that conviction on Joe Burrow, I'm not going to fight you on it. But I like that his ADP is sliding from where it was,
Starting point is 00:48:12 you know, when he was fourth. Right. You know, six is a perfect range for him. All right, next one from Apple Podcasts is, I don't have a name here, but, hey, Dan, Wayne, Ben, and Daniel. Don't know. 10-team redraft league. One keeper, six points per passing touchdown.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Okay, it's half-point PPR, and it's.25 points per carry. Do I take Josh Allen in the seventh or Travis Etienne in the 13th? Etienne. Etienne in the 13th. Etienne. 10 teams, six-point touchdowns. I think I'm going to take Josh Allen. And why the giant poop fest with Juju Smith-Schuster? He thinks we're too low on Juju. I don't think it's going to be the case anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:00 It's just, you know, look, they're going to spread the ball around. You're seeing the highlight plays. But the fact that he's, you know, the, they're going to spread the ball around. You're seeing the highlight plays. But the fact that he's, you know, the two things that stood out so far is how much in motion he is and how much he's lining up in different spots. And that's certainly what we want to see. He's being used differently than he was in Pittsburgh already. And anybody who's watched him practice so far has been wowed by Juju. And by the way, that was from Chris.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Sorry, I didn't see your name there, Chris. This is from Toyota. Dear Flounder, Boone, Otter, and Bluto. That's from one of the most romantic movies ever made. Pinocchio? Adable House. Okay. I find myself looking more toward the late round tight end group
Starting point is 00:49:44 than the top players in mock drafts. Who are the ones that would be best to target in a full PPR startup keeper league? I'm thinking of taking at least two late tight ends, maybe three. There you go. So it's a startup keeper league. Who in the late round tight end group would you guys target? Daniel Bellinger would be one is that i mean i was going to say cole commit so we're at different stages in the journey he won't be a late rounder i don't know what late means he might be a late rounder um i guess if you want to tear it uh commit if you can get him you know maybe the next type of guy would be like an irv smith or an alberto to see what happens with them and their respective offenses um bellinger for me would be you know one of Smith or an Albert O to see what happens with them and their respective offenses. Bellinger for me would be one of the rookies, Trey McBride. If you're going to take a rookie, take Dulcich in Denver.
Starting point is 00:50:36 He's my favorite. He's my favorite. And Jelani Woods is like Andre the Giant at tight end in Indianapolis. This is from Ryan Fisher. Some guy I know started a 32-team league. One running back, one wide receiver, three flexes, and a super flex. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Oh, no. Well, he didn't say one quarterback, so maybe you don't have to start a quarterback. He said one super flex. That's interesting. Yeah, one running back, one wide receiver, three flexes, and one super flex that's interesting yeah one running back one wide receiver three flexes and one super flex so you could start a quarterback five you have the scoring of what four points for passing touchdown versus other players what the quarterbacks look like in front of you i can get it certainly as i did it a few years ago and even in four point
Starting point is 00:51:19 for passing touchdown leagues i think you'd be 19 was still one of the highest scoring players yeah right you have to completely crap on passing touchdowns. What's your strategy for Ryan here? 32 team league. Everything else is the same scoring? There's no way
Starting point is 00:51:40 to draw the position, right? I don't see that. I think you take best player available. Probably lean toward pass catchers if it's PPR. Okay. I'll read the next question then I'll come back
Starting point is 00:51:54 with the answer to your four-point question. I wonder if you don't have a starter quarterback. Let's say it's three points for passing touchdowns, minus one for interceptions, or four points and minus two.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You know, so you're... And it's not... You know, it's 15 points for every passing yard. It's one point for every 15 passing yards or something like that. You know, so quarterbacks really devalue. All right, let's say Justin Jefferson... If you could play a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:52:17 you're going to draft a quarterback. You know, the first round should be all quarterbacks. Justin Jefferson scored... Assuming that the scoring is high, yes. Hmm. Justin Jefferson would have been Qb6 last year let's see uh mac jones scored 221 points he was qb 18 221 points in a ppr league would have been wide receiver 23 darnell mooney right so they're not as valuable right they are not as valuable in four point yeah so then the if it's four points still mac jones was qb 18 you said yeah so he's still uh what was qb like eight or ten joe burrow was qb8 he scored 312 points and that would be wide receiver in full p points. And that would be wide receiver in full PPR.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Oh, that, that would be wide receiver five. He outscored Jamar chase. So the top tier quarterback should go earlier. And then it becomes almost like a regular super flexing. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Almost done with our Apple podcast questions. We'll go to our next one here from Sosa 80. I was offered a first round pick in 2023 and mike evans for pick 101 so that would be breeze hall basically it's a 10 team ppr half ppr league would you take mike evans and a 2023 first rounder for breeze hall i think i would do a win now team don't know if you're a win-now team? Don't know. If you're a win-now team, then I would rather have Mike Evans in the first round.
Starting point is 00:53:50 If you're rebuilding, I'd rather have Brisson. This is from Bango Lancer. Great fantasy analysis hosted by the best male podcast hosts on Earth. I am drafting for a startup keeper league where we can keep up to three players each year with the cost going up one round the following season, and we can keep them for three seasons if Dave was wondering. Is there any different strategy to bring to a keeper
Starting point is 00:54:12 draft as compared to the normal redrafter dynasty leagues? Three keepers. The players that you're going to target for, that you're going to draft with the intention of keeping for a long time, they're going to go sooner in your draft. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:30 it really, it's not, here's my question, you know, groundbreaking advice here. It's players that are like Brees Hall is going to go much sooner than normal because you can keep them for three years or even Ken Walker or any rookie Olave Dotson, Jameson Williams.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Here's my question, Dave. I've never played in a format like this. I think you guys are in leagues like this. Three keepers go up around each year. Do you find that your team will end up with enough values where you don't have to do that? Because you can only keep three guys, right? So you don't have to reach for rookies because you're going to stumble upon a waiver wire guy or or something you're going to have three obvious keepers that you don't have to push up those rookies let the other teams do well i i think the thing that happens is first off you know you like alvin camaro think about where he was um you know players that like elijah mitchell this year you know the guys that you have that depending on how you value free agents, which are usually like last round guys.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And so as they continue to progress, like how Kamara did, for example, the first round becomes less, second round becomes, the talent pool at the top becomes less. So as the years go on, I don't know if rookies necessarily get pushed up dramatically. In the leagues I play in, the value doesn't significantly change aside from just the keepers not being there if there are a lot of high-end keepers i think the thing that you look at though is you look at guys like you know dave mentioned a few of the rookie receivers you know the ones
Starting point is 00:55:55 that you can hopefully foresee becoming great in a year um the other thing i think you look for just as a strategy thing is because people tend to forget these guys is the injury guys you know the guys that are going to be you know out for significant portions of time that get hurt in camp like you know one of my leagues where we it's not the same format but we keep guys in around eight or later drafted around eight or later um cam makers wasn't drafted last year because people forgot about him so i i was purposely hoping he wasn't getting drafted because i knew that i'd just get him the first time waivers ran because i was first on waivers and now he's my keeper this year in past round eight um calvin
Starting point is 00:56:34 ridley keep him in mind you know he's probably going to be free take him late you know these type of guys are are the ones that when they come back you know hopefully they come back at a significant level you know michael thomas a year ago you know for people that they may have forgot about him um they're not a ton of those guys but these are the ones that not yet you know dave and i do this in our baseball league and it's been so successful for us you know taking you know like this year we it hasn't panned out so much but like we were just kind of waiting out how far is lance lynn gonna fall because people just forgot about him this is an al only baseball league you know and just we got him in round 15, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:05 just because we did with Eloy Jimenez Jimenez two years ago, two years ago. You know, it's just, those are the type of things that can be difference makers for you. As for players that aren't going to be forgotten about the rookies, especially you're probably going to like one or two rookies ahead of the rest of the pack. Don't be afraid to reach up for them if you want to have them and have control of them for your fantasy team
Starting point is 00:57:27 for the next three seasons. How about this? Just looking at baseball standings. The Red Sox and the White Sox are both 500 right now. Red Sox are 50 and 50. White Sox are 49 and 49. The Red Sox are in last place, 17 games out of first.
Starting point is 00:57:43 The White Sox are three games out of first. Oh, it's nice to be in the AL Central, baby. All right, let's read some YouTube questions. They have been a tough watch this year, especially their last game. I'm basically watching every White Sox game. That'll probably change once training camp really gets in. I had a fun conversation with a buddy of mine last night who
Starting point is 00:58:05 uh he's got a eight-year-old and he's already got him hooked on uh a daily fantasy for baseball wow and um so he was uh they do it together but so like we were after baseball practice um he was like oh can i set a line real quick for the night slate? And he was telling me that he told his son, just tying in the White Sox, it was the White Sox and Rockies in Colorado. He was like, don't take any of the pitchers. You just got to load up on hitters. So he loaded up on hitters, and it was the Copac game when they won 2-1. I forget who won 2-1.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And he said the kid came up to him. It was like, his son came up to him. It was like, you told me no pitchers. Got to go the old contrarian route. Get those pitchers in Coors Field. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Here's one from Gray. Gray matters to me. I have this to decide on Higgins or Godwin by the end of the weekend. Higgins in the sixth or Godwin in the fifth. Higgins. Higgins. 10 team dynasty league from edward one qb uh should i trade breeze hall he's rebuilding total rebuild should i trade breeze hall for james cook a 2023 first and a 2023 second no i don't think that's enough the only thing would
Starting point is 00:59:22 be is so cook was probably a late first pick, so the team was probably good. Oh, I don't know. I wouldn't say that for sure. I think it would have been a second-round pick. Okay, that's even worse. Well, no, I guess it's not worse. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:59:37 It's not a bad team. I wouldn't do it. You can't do it. Brees Hall, you're rebuilding. You rebuild around Brees Hall. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Okay. Oh? Yeah. Okay. Oh, Jamie, Akers is also one of my keepers for a 13th round pick. There you go. Is 1.10, 1.10 too early
Starting point is 00:59:55 to take Kyle Pitts in a super flex tight end, was that tight end premium? Tight end premium. Start up. If he's there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:05 If it's a super flex, I totally expect him to be there. That's a good point. If it's super flex, that means that quarterbacks are going to go off the board. It might be too early for me. Okay. What's the latest you guys would take a running back? Round six? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I was going to say like round four or five. If I hit right on receivers late round one, early round two, and there's still good values in round three and round four, I'll say for round five. Okay. So what if you started, you know, with four or five receivers, then you got a.j dylan and kareem hunt love it a tight end in there and a and the receivers and then a.j dylan cream all right you could start with that that's not bad you could um i'd rather watch grass grow than i think this
Starting point is 01:00:59 is in reference to baseball you basically are watching that with baseball. It's probably growing a little bit. They mow it after every game. The field. Waddle for a seventh or Mike Williams for a 13th? Mike Williams. Yeah, I like Waddle, but Williams for a 13th is...
Starting point is 01:01:17 I like Williams better in redraft already. And finally from Gabriel. 2QB, 3Flex, full PPR. I just traded Kelsey and Chenault for Kittle and Christian Kirk. I have Lawrence and Lance as my quarterbacks. So he gave up Kelsey and LaVisca for George Kittle and Christian Kirk. So you gave up Kelsey for Kittle and Kirk. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I don't mind it. I mean, you'll get more points out of Kittle and Kirk, theoretically. Okay. All right. Thank you all for watching and listening. Really appreciate you sticking around. And yeah, good stuff. Dave and Jamie, have a wonderful weekend.
Starting point is 01:01:57 You too, dude. I guess the listeners and the viewers, you guys can have a great weekend too. That'd be great. So we'll see you on Monday. Please remember to vote on podcastawards.com. You only have a couple of days left. Don't forget it. Yeah, we're going to be at 9.30 in the morning instead of 10 in the morning, beginning next week. And then eventually we'll get earlier as we get into the season. But for the immediate future, 9.30 in the morning. So we'll talk to you then. See ya.

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