Fantasy Football Today - Pros & Cons of Wide Receivers Ranked 10-18! Round 2-3 WR Breakdown! (06/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

The FFT Crew discusses their 2026 Fantasy Football wide receiver rankings breakdown, focusing on WRs ranked 10-18. We start with Rashee Rice, Chris Olave, and Tee Higgins (19:16), breaking down their upside, risk, and draft value. They then discuss A.J. Brown, Emeka Egbuka, and Zay Flowers (31:30) before analyzing DeVonta Smith, Tetairoa McMillan, and Malik Nabers (44:10). Which receivers offer league-winning potential, and which come with enough concerns to make you think twice on draft day?Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcastsWatch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Up to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

Welcome to the show. It is Monday, June 1st. It is maybe A.J. Brown Day. It could be any day, hopefully, that he gets traded. Welcome to the show. was we talk about AJ Brown in wide receivers 10 through 18 in our consensus PPR rankings. That would be Rishi Rice, T. Higgins, Chris Olave, A.J. Brown, Ameca, Abuka, Zay Flowers, Devante Smith, Tetero McMillan, and Malik neighbors.

Is that me we're doing an emergency podcast later? Very possible. Very possible. Be on the lookout. Holy cow, can you believe A.J. Brown was traded? How could we have prepared for this? To the Patriots, no less? Wait, why don't when we talk about AJ Brown, like you pause, you reintroduce the show, you end the show there, and then you clip that as the emergency podcast for later. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess it has to be an emergency podcast. Players like AJ Brown don't get traded every day.

But also, it may not happen for a while. We don't know what the compensation is going to be. The recent report was that they weren't close, the Patriots and the Eagles. And what if it's a different team? Anyway, Heath, I just read those names, nine wide receivers, Rishi Rice, T. Higgins, Olabe, A.J. Brown, Abuka, Flowers, Devante Smith, Tetero McMillan, Malik neighbors. How would you sum up this group? These wide receivers are what? Very, very exciting and in the case of many of them, also a little bit terrifying. Who are the terrifying ones? Well, obviously, Rashi Rice.

I think you could be concerned about A.J. Brown. Emeka Abuka's second half was a disaster. Tetero McMillan's offense might be also. Malik Neighbors is not healthy. Garrett Wilson is on the Jets. Like most of them. Oh, okay, yeah. Garrett Wilson actually is wide receiver 19 in the consensus rankings.

We could talk about him at some. point. Oh, he's not supposed to be on the, on, on, I'm not supposed to say that name. No, it's fine. He's on the graphic. Thomas gave us the 10 wide receiver, which makes sense, five and five on the graphic here. But I didn't, I'm just saying, I didn't say, Garrett Wilson, but he is wide receiver 19 and he is on the Jets and that is pretty scary. Dave, how would you characterize this group of receivers? These are all wide receivers that have the potential to finish top 12 per game in PPR. They also have potential to finish. somewhere between 20th and 99th

PPR points per game. There are some pretty gross floors for some of these guys. But these are the bulk of the number two wide receivers that you're going to be drafting in August. And Jamie, your thoughts on Rice, Higgins, Olave, AJ Brown, Abuka, Flowers, Devante Smith, Tederella McMillan, and Neighbors.

I mean, I think they summed it up pretty well, but welcome to round three and four. Yeah. And if you hate this list, Get ready to prioritize wide receiver and get one or if not two of those first nine names that we haven't mentioned and you probably can figure out who those names are. You know what? Let's do some impromptu fill in the blank. Impromptu fill in the blank. The safest wide receiver in this group is blank. Hmm. Higgins?

Well, hold on. Is Rishi Rice suspended? So Andy Reid said that the league gave no indication that there will be any suspension. Andy Reid basically said it's over. If he's playing 17 and he's a part of training camp, I'm okay saying Rice is the safest. I would probably, I mean, look, Rice and Higgins have such poor injury track records. It's hard to say they're safe. I'll still say AJ, bro. Oh, man.

Yeah. That's the thing. Based on my introduction, there's not a lot of guys that I'd say are like safe to be top 20 guys. If A.J. Brown's gone, then it may be Devante Smith. So Higgins. That was the question?

Top 20? No, just safe. Just safe. Just safe. He didn't quantify it anymore. Oh, got you. Higgins has been, you know,

in the five seasons, he's played just counting the games with Burrow, Chase Higgins, all playing normal snapshares. He's been top 15 in 4.05. He's been good enough to be a top 15 wide receiver, actually top 13 in four of those five seasons in terms of his points per game. Well, if we're just going to do counting the games where they played normal snapshares, then it's Rushie Rice. Yeah. Unless you feel like recovering from knee injury in jail is. Not good for his sake.

I mean, I think if you're just looking at safe, it's probably Flowers and Smith because you know what their floors are. Flowers and Smith. I almost said Flowers, but he just doesn't seem safe. I mean, I don't know that you know what Flowers floor. He was wide receiver 36 per game in 2024 with the same amount of targets,

basically, two fewer targets. The floor is 12 PPR points. You know, so I don't know that we know that. Yeah, I go, I guess. What do you think about that, Jamie? Take a take that at you. Sure.

Well, I mean, it's a good point, isn't it? He basically, Zay Flowers, two seasons in a row had basically the same amount of targets. One year he was wide receiver 36 per game. Last year, I think he was like wide receiver 12 per game. So that's, I don't think he'll be 36th per game. But I don't know. That's kind of an interesting stat, isn't it? Yeah.

Thank you. Okay, next fill in the blank. The most upside in this group belongs to, and just for the listeners at home that aren't looking at the list, it's right, Rishi Rice, Higgins, Olabe, A.J. Brown, Abuka, flowers, Devante Smith, Tetero McMillan, Malik Neighbors. Most upside in this group belongs to who, Heath? Rice. Go ahead, anybody.

Jump in there. It's right, but I'll say Abuka just for another name. if Malik neighbors is A-OK, he's got the most upside. That is a big, slow running to first base if. You look like Adam trying to go to first base. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to overrate that. It's a softball game three months before the season starts.

I bet if you were playing football. I bet other people were running like that at the game, and I bet others that are healthier would probably run around. If he was playing football, he would not be playing football. right he would not be playing football if that was the case no he would not be luckily he doesn't have to for like it doesn't have to practice for two months it's june first yeah that's malik neighbors who played in a great dynasty trade you made by the way get rid of malik never yeah i told you charity softball game uh who would you end up with he he hasn't made the pig shot have you or was that

that was that the big burger wasn't i made the pick shit but i ended up with uh what i don't remember. Picks 1112. Such a good trade. 11, 12 and Michael Wilson and something next year, too. Second round or next year or something. So he's going to have Michael Wilson, Jeremy Bernard, and Chris Breszel. Maybe I'll, yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

Anyway, last one. Oh, by the way, I think I could make a case for A.J. Brown having the most upside if he goes to the Patriots. You can make the case for any of these guys have the most upside? I don't know. You think so? I don't think. Maybe not say flowers.

I don't think Higgins. Everybody else, I think you can. All right, last one is who has the lowest floor non-injury? Like these guys, they all play 17 games. Most likely, I'd say most likely to be a bust if they all play 17 games in this group.

Jamie. If they all play 17 games? Yeah, most likely to be a bust. Performance bust. I mean, I already made the case for Alave, so I'll say Alavi. What was your case for Alave? his numbers with Rashid

without Rashidhiyahe last year. When did you make that case on Express? You mean? Or did you do that today? Yeah. And on the site too,

but that was one of the ones we discussed on Express. Okay. So Alave for Jamie Heath. Most likely to be a bust. I'll say a Buka. Okay. Dave.

I think Olave is probably the best one for that category. Okay. Okay. Let's do some news and notes. By the way, we have a lot of other podcasts that you'll find very interesting. We got some soccer podcasts as we get ready for the World Cup. And fantasy baseball.

I was fantasy football today. Dynasty, be on the box score. Go to CBSports.com slash podcast and see the full list. Can we discuss fantasy baseball for a second? Because you came on here a couple weeks ago, I think it was, and was like, I have the greatest fantasy baseball team ever. Did I jigs us? And since then, half our team has gotten hurt.

and we've lost, I think, two of our last three. Yeah, I have that magic touch even when I'm not paying attention. But we're still the sixth seed right now. So in the playoffs, it started. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Ellie got hurt, right, Ellie Dele Cruz? They get hurt. He is day-to-day.

Yeah, that's a bummer. All right. You didn't like that pick when I made it also. I didn't? No. Well, there you got. I knew it. He's going to get hurt.

All right, so your news and notes, it is June 1st. That means that the Eagles can spread AJ Brown's cap hit over two. two years if they trade him going forward. So we'll keep an eye on that. DJ Morris says he's having some growing pains in the new offense with Buffalo, but he says it will be perfect later on. And Rishi Rice, we already gave you some news on Rishie Rice,

but he's expected to be ready for training camp. He's recovering from this cleanup knee surgery, and Andy Reid said he doesn't expect the league to suspend Rice. Chris Olave gained 10 pounds of muscle. He plans on losing five of those pounds in training camp, but apparently he looks great. Green Bay head coach Matt LaFlor, here's some tight end news.

Let's see, four tight-end notes for you. Matt LaFleur hopes that Tucker Kraft is ready for the beginning of training camp, or at least early in training camp. Brock Bowers is 100% healthy. He's back to full speed. Sam La Porta, no rush to get him back on the field. He's still recovering from back surgery. Leporta could be ready for training camp.

We'll see. And Jets rookie tight-end Kenyon Sadiq had minor surgery for a hernia. He's expected to be ready for training camp. The Jets knew about this when they drafted him. But you'd like to see him have a regular off-season as a rookie. He'll have a little bit of a recovery, Kenyon Sadiq. More news here. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler thinks to Sean Watson has a leg up in the quarterback competition for the Browns.

Earlier, I think last month, we saw Mary Kay Cabot say that Watson is ahead in the competition. Christian McCaffrey, you know, talk about him getting some rest and fewer carriers, whatever. He says that he'll rest during practice. And that's, you know, I think he seems ready for his workload, his big workload. Meanwhile, backup running back, Isaac Arendo. for the Niners, he tore his peck about a month ago. He should be back sometime in training camp, maybe toward the end of training camp.

Miami-wide receiver news. Omar Kelly of the Miami Herald says Malik Washington seems to be grasping the playbook faster than the other receivers. He also says that tight end Greg Dulcich has been a standout during OTAs. He also said that Malik Willis hasn't looked good. Oh, that's nice.

It's early and it's OTAs. We'll get an idea on him. I'll see him this week. You're going to lunch with him? If he's up for it, sure. But otherwise I'll just watch him practice. Ben Johnson says he is buying Luther Bird in stock right now. Not the first time he has praised Luther Bird in this offseason.

D'emico Ryan's praise second year receiver Jaden Higgins. Malik Neighbors played softball and didn't look good. Cam Scadaboo did a – it didn't look good running. Cam Scataboo did a backflip. The Giants are working out, Judeo Smith-Schuster, Odo Beckham Jr. and Braxton Berrios today. One of their receivers – Andrew Miller.

Andrew Miller. Interesting. Wasn't he a relief picture? Yeah, Andrew Miller, the lefty for the Yankees. Really tall, wasn't he? Yeah, who's Andrew Miller? I think Anthony Miller is what. Anthony Miller is still getting tryouts.

All right. If Gunner O'Shefske, return man for the Giants and a wide receiver tore his Achilles, which is what is feared, he is the third Giants player to tears Achilles this year. It's crazy.

That turf at MetLife. Yeah, they're not there yet. Tennessee quarterback coach Shay Tierney wants Cam Ward to run the ball more this season. Ward average.

Just 9.3 rushing yards per game if you remove week 18 when he played five snaps. They seem to be going in a direction where they want him to do more of that. That was talked about earlier

in the off season. Ward put on weight, I think, to absorb more of that. And that's something that we've seen Brian Daibel lean into ever since he had his hands

on Josh Allen back in the day. And I don't think he's going to turn into the next Josh Allen. But I wonder if he gets I think he average like 2.3 carries per game. Yeah. And Cam can run a little bit. Maybe four carries a game.

Yeah, that'd be great. The Vikings hired a new GM. It's Seattle assistant GM Nolan Teasley. And Garrett Wilson fired up about Frank Reich's offense. He seems optimistic right now. That's a good thing. He's not always been so happy with the direction of the Jets. Okay.

We're going to take a break. And we have a tweet of the day when we come back. And then we'll get into, wide receivers 10 through 18, including how this group did each of the previous two years. Was this a productive group, disappointing group, somewhere in between? Yeah, it's somewhere in between. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. Okay, it's time for our tweet of the day.

Dave, you know cousin Ernest. I named him cousin Ernest. He's one of our long listeners. He says, cousin Ernest here in Spursland, Adam. Let's make a bet. Your Knicks versus my Spurs. I win. We co-host the league team.

You win. I heckled Dan at the next tennis match or something else. I'm game. I'm in because I think we're going to win. The Knicks are going to win the NBA finals. It's going to be amazing. And you're on, Ernest. We'll co-host a team in your league.

I don't know if you guys have any ideas when the Knicks win, what cousin Ernest will owe me. I don't need him to heckle Dan at the next tennis match. I'm not going to win it anyway. But you think of anything. This was just my way of saying that I'm picking the Knicks to win the NBA final. Nix and six. Heath, you're muted.

Ernest hosts a show if the Spurs win. Okay, he can come on the show. And you have to be there and you have to watch, but you're on mute the whole time. Oh, no, no. He's not hosting a full show. Maybe a segment. Oh, yes, a full show. Do you think that the Knicks are going to be like the underdog?

I mean, they're the underdogs from a betting standpoint, but from like who everybody's cheering for it, a really strange experience. in South Florida at a Buffalo Wild Wings on Saturday night. I took my 16-year-old. He was cheering for the Thunder. I was cheering for the Spurs. And the place was packed. And there might have been two people in the whole building cheering for the Thunder.

Oh, everyone hates the Thunder. No, the Knicks would be the fan favorite if the Thunder were in. Because Sheigilders-Alexander fell like 50 times during the NBA Western Conference finals. They are a dirty, cheating, no-teacher. good, lousy team. I wanted the Knicks to beat the thunder, but I don't think they would have. No, I think the answer to your question is everybody loves Wembe and hates New York. So the Spurs are going to be the sentimental favorites.

And I'm just glad Jalen Brunson never Fulstone. No, he does, and a lot of players do. Hardin does and all that. But I forget which writer it was. He went back, he watched every, he watched all the tape, and Shea Gilgis Alexander does it so much more than anyone else. So much more. It was broken down in an article.

I think on Yahoo. And not only like, you saw that play against the Lakers where I think it was Holmgren, acted like he got hit in the face and he fell down or the neck or something. It didn't get hit in the face at all. They reviewed it. They're just cheaters.

They're no good lousy cheaters. I'm glad they're out. Okay, wide receivers 10 through 18. Here we go. Okay, 2024. This group stunk. Just in terms of ADP. This is not ADP.

This is consensus rank. But if we look at ADP from fantasy pros, PPR, wide receivers 10 through 18, obviously nine receivers, only three of them in 20-24 finished in the top 20 overall. Four finished in the top 24 overall. Five of them finished wide receiver 38 or worse. On a per-game basis, only four of the nine finished in the top 20, five of them finished in the top 24. That year, Olave, Debo, Iuke, Pittman, and Cooper Cup were complete busts.

Last year, it's a little more fresh on your brain. Here were the wide receivers that were 10 through 18 in PPR. A.J. Brown, he finished his wide receiver 12 per game. Lab McConkey, he was a bust, wide receiver 38. T. Higgins finished his wide receiver 17 overall, 16 per game. So he was fine. Tyree Kill, wide receiver 103 overall, 18th per game. JSN was wide receiver 2.

Terry McLaurin was wide receiver 55 overall, 36 per game. Mike Evans was 76th overall. 41st per game. Garrett Wilson was 61st overall, 15th per game, and Devante Adams was wide receiver 9. So you had Tyreek Hill, Terry McLaren,

Mike Evans, and Garrett Wilson being busts because they were injured. But six of the nine receivers in this group finished top 18 per game and were drafted as top 18 receivers. So I think this group was pretty horrible in 2024 and pretty solid in 2025, including JSN as a league winner.

All right, with that said, I already asked you guys how you feel about Rishi Rice, T. Higgins, Chris Olave, A.J. Brown, Abuka, Zayflowers, Devante Smith, McMillan, and Neighbors. So let's put them in groups of three and break them down. Dave, Rishie Rice, T. Higgins, and Chris Olave. Do you consider Chris Olave to be not like the others, Rishie Hicka, Chris Oliva? He's behind a Buka, or I'm sorry, he's behind a Buka 2 for me, but also T. Higgins and Rishie Rice. As of now, Rice is my favorite of the group. And Olave, I, I can, I feel like I need to see it again. I don't think the situation is going to be the same. Love the offense. I'm a believer in Tyler Shuck. I think he can handle it. Can he handle two receivers plus to getting good numbers on a weekly basis?

I don't know. I don't know if a lobby is the same type of target volume that he saw toward the end of last year, or maybe even overall last year, with a rookie like Jordan Tyson on the field in New Orleans. Jamie, you were not apparently swayed by my, Rashid Shaheed wasn't really that big of a factor argument on FFT Express. The target share was basically the same with him without Rashid Shahid. But your concern is he wasn't as good when Rashid Shahid was there, and now they have Jordan Tyson.

So elaborate on why you think Chris Olavay has some bus potential. Well, Tyson obviously is a better prospect than Shaheed. Hopefully he performs better than Shaheed. But in the nine games with Rashid Shaheed before he was traded, Alave averaged 14.1 ppr points. Now you could say Tyler Shuck wasn't the quarterback for most of that. And then just taking hold of Kellan Moore's offense, it's a fair argument. And he averaged 20.2 PPR points after Shahid was traded.

So that's a pretty big leap in production, you know, six points per game. So can he be closer to that? or will he be closer to the 14? And, you know, I'm going to guess he's probably somewhere in between if things go right. I'm just a little concerned that, you know, we're looking at a player who got significant competition. You know, the run game should be better, you know, with the addition of ETN, HN, you know, Travis and what he brings. You know, they added another tight end, you know, that's going to be, I think, a little bit of a playmaker and a factor in Oscar Delp. But obviously, Jordan Tyson is as advertised, you know, he could easily push for talking.

targets and take targets away from OLAV where he didn't have that problem after Shaheed was gone because the rest of the receiving core was, for the most part, miserable. So yes, the target share was the same. So that's, you know, encouraging. But I still think you're looking at an offense that hopefully continues to evolve. You know, a lot of expectations on Tyler Shuck. You know, so hopefully he lives up to them. But I think just looking at Olave and in this group, he definitely belongs in this group.

He should be closer to the top and the bottom. I just think there should be a little bit cause for concern for what his career has been and for what he was able to produce last year when there was no competition on the field. Well, let's talk about what his career has been, just to give some numbers here. Olave has played 15, 16, 8, and 16 games in his four-year career. And here's where he has finished per game in full PPR. And it's not that much different than non- or half-pR. rookie year, wide receiver 27 per game.

Second season, wide receiver 21 per game. Third season was just horrible. I think it was wide receiver 55 or 58 per game. I said it a few minutes ago, but he was one of those busts in this range two years ago. And then last year, wide receiver 7 per game. In a down year for wide receivers, typically what he averaged last year

would have been around wide receiver 10 per game, but still a phenomenal year for him. Heath, I look at that 2023 season, 87 catches, 1,1123 yards, 5 touchdowns on 138 targets. I never know exactly what someone's floor is, but do you think it's fair to say that's probably around the floor for Olavé, which was wide receiver 21 per game that year? Yeah, I think that's fair to say if we're taking injury concern out of it. I mean, there is a chance that Jordan Tyson shows up and it's just like, oh, well. by mid-season they have a 1A and a 1B, and we don't even know for sure who it is on a week-to-week basis.

There's also a chance that Tyson, who's already missed some time this summer as they kind of manage a hamstring issue, it just isn't really that big of a factor. And if you look at O'Lavi, I think Jamie said he averaged 20 fantasy points per game after Shaheed was gone. And it is like almost a perfect split

with when Tyler Shuck became the starter and when Rashid Shahid left. but it was 18.8 fantasy points per game in eight games with Tyler Shuck. I think the big thing is going to be were the touchdown spike last year, how much of that is sustainable. It was he had 10 touchdowns in his first three seasons in the league. He scored nine last year. But for a very good wide receiver, which we think he is,

nine touchdowns on 156 targets isn't crazy at all. You get a 5.8% touchdown rate. That's good. He's good. So if you're looking at like what's more statistically normal, it's the touchdown rate last year than the touchdown rate the first three years. And if he scores eight or nine touchdowns, I think he's going to have 80 catches and 1100 yards.

He caught almost every touchdown from Tyler Shuck because he was on pace. Elavie was on pace for 13 touchdowns in eight games with Shuck. And Shuck was only on pace for 19 touchdowns. in those games. So, yeah, they just had a great connection. He got a lot more end zone targets than he ever had. He caught four touchdowns on deep balls, which was rare for him.

All right, so that's Olavé. And then let me bring something up with Higgins. He just seems like, like I said earlier, when he's on the field with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, he's a top 15 wide receiver on a per game basis every year, except for 2023, which was just a miserable year for the Bengals offense. but there have only been two wide receivers over the last four years that have finished top 16 per game in PPR

with a target per outrun rate below 22%. And T. Higgins is both of them. His targets last year, I mean, like, what was his 17 game pace last year? It was less than 1,000 yards. I think it was something like 110 targets. I can look it up. But his 17 game pace was 111 targets,

959 yards, 13 touchdowns. He had a, a, target per hour run rate, I think it was 18.4% or something like that, that's really, really low. The year before that, it was 24%, and he was a top five receiver per game, but that is the big outlier for him. So I just want to bring it up that Higgins feels super safe because he does it every year. If he gets a target per out run rate, Dave, in the 18% rate, he's on pace for 111 targets. He might actually be a bust, right? I mean, especially if the touchdown rate goes down. when you're drafting T. Higgins, you're counting on him to score a boatload of touchdowns.

And I think you cannot rule that out, given the offense, given the quarterback, given his role, I feel kind of good about T. Higgins. I feel good about, I'm not in the projections game. Heath is. I don't know how many touchdowns he's projected for T. Higgins, but I know to expect a lot of points from the Bengals offense. And if they're going to score a lot of points, their top two past catchers are going to come up with a lot of them. And so he had 11 last year. That's kind of crazy. But it wouldn't surprise me if he matched that number this year, you're drafting him for the

Tuddies. I've got them projected for 9.3, which is the second highest in this group behind only Rashi Rice. Yeah. Makes sense. And then obviously if Jamar Chase gets hurt, there's big upset. Oh, gosh, yes. But even if he just gets the targets up to like 125 or something, you could have a huge

year from Higgins. But it's weird that I don't, I feel like, I feel like he's going late. Let me look at the ADP. I feel like Higgins is not getting quite the respect. He doesn't feel as exciting as some of these younger receivers who could take a step like Devante Smith without A.J. Brown and Teddrault and McMillan, Devonty Smith's not that young. But I guess guys who maybe you could project more upside for than T. Higgins.

Does that? He tends to fall in drafts. I think, you know, you look at it and say, okay, what am I drafting? Am I drafting a guy is just going to score a bunch of touchdowns or am I drafting a guy that could hopefully take a step forward? And I think we've kind of made the argument for him over the years of, well, what happens if Jamar Chase misses time? Well, you know, that's very rare that Jamar Chase misses time.

You know, it's happened a couple of times, but not over a full season, hopefully it doesn't happen this year. So I think when you look at T. Higgins, like you kind of just know what you're buying. You know, you're buying like a discounted George Pickens, you know, the second best receiver on his team, but not maybe the same heights that pickets can get to as we saw, last year. I think that's why I think Higgins is safe. You know, he gives you the opportunity to score 10 plus touchdowns. He's done that now in back-to-back seasons. He's on a team that's still,

I think, going to throw the ball a lot. He has one of the best passing quarterbacks in the NFL. And so there's a lot to love about his situation. But you're just going to have to understand there's going to be weeks when he does not score that you're going to be a little frustrated. But it's interesting to see, like, would you take a Mecca, Buka, who had five good games in his career over this proven commodity T. Higgins? Would you take Zay Flowers? because he say Flowers is slightly ahead of Higgins and Fantasy Pros ADP

like those two guys in particular would you take Higgins or Flowers or Abuka who's your favorite there? It probably depends on how you started your team and what you're looking for. For me I have Higgins ranked higher

just because I think he's again safer but the upside certainly favors the other two if they hit. I'll go Flowers Higgins, Abuka. I've got the exact opposite order. Abuka Higgins, flowers. Okay.

Someone asked what he's done when Jill Breyer has played a full season. Joe Burrow, three years playing 16 or 17 games, 2021, 2021, 2022, and 2024. In 2021, Higgins averaged 15.7 points per game. In 2024, he averaged 18.7 points per game. You'd obviously take either of those in the third round. 2022, he averaged only 13.7 points per game, but he left three games very early to kill his per game averages. And that does happen with T. Higgins. All right, next group of three is A.J. Brown Emeka, Abuka, and Zay Flowers.

A.J. Brown, Ameca, Abuka, Zay Flowers. Jamie, how do you rank those three? Right now, currently, it's Brown, Abuca, Flowers. Dave? A.J., Ameca, Zay. Now you have to do their middle names. I don't know those, but I do have the opposite order,

so I'm doing my job there. Zay, Abuka, AJ. Wow. Okay. Things just got interesting. I know you're kind of down on the buck's offense comparatively. But let's talk about why you hate, completely hate despise A.J. Brown and Embeca Bucca, which is what you just said. I think, and I was just writing the Tampa Bay player outlooks this morning. So it's kind of fresh on my mind. I think just the completely opposite. Haves of season that Abuka and Baker Mayfield and this offense had last year is a little bit concerning. I worry about Baker Mayfield's accuracy bouncing back. I worry about another new offensive system and just how pass heavy it's going to be.

And I think he has, I mean, obvious top 10 upside. But if somebody from this group, I think finishes outside of the top 20 and there's no real reason for it, I think it would probably be a Bucca. Okay, this group again is A.J. Brown, Emeka, Buka, and Zay Flowers. What's your issue with A.J. Brown? He was not quite the same guy last year. And I don't blame all of that on Jalen Hertz,

because I'm the Jalen Hertz defender. I don't think that New England's going to be, I'm assuming he's in New England. I don't think New England's going to be like a pass-heavy offense. I think it's still probably one of the teams that runs in the top 10 in terms of run plays next year. And I'm not entirely convinced that they're just going to throw it 10 times per game to AJ Brown. Patriots threw for 4,426 yards and 31 touchdowns last year. That's better than any season the Eagles have had in the last four years.

Yes, sir. Now, I know Heath, you don't think Drake May will be as efficient as he was. I don't think he will average nine yards per pass attempt again, no. I guess I've made the argument. I'll make it again. I'm sure I'll make it again tonight when there's a bonus podcast. They're going to lose more games, I think, this year. They have a tougher schedule.

I think they're going to have to throw a little bit more. Plus, they didn't have A.J. Brown last year. So it just shouldn't they throw more if they have A.J. Brown? Oh, I think they will probably throw more. They only, very Drake May only threw 490, passes last year. So they were about 70 below league median.

I just wonder if this is finally the year. He's been on the Titans and the Eagles in his career. Is this the year that he's finally unleashed? I mean, I feel like AJ Brown could be a top three wide receiver. Well, I don't think that's really. Like he had 158

targets in 2023. I don't think we can say he wasn't unleashed in Philadelphia. Okay. He had a 1450 yards. season. But they only threw 25 touchdowns. 1496 yard season. But the fact that Jalen Hertz was running for double digit touchdowns every year, and they only

threw 24, they threw 24 to 26 touchdowns all four years in Philadelphia. So obviously, I'm not saying Hertz was bad for A.J. Brown. He gave him some terrific years, but he could have been even better if he threw the ball more instead of running it in the end zone. Well, this is on paper, probably the

best passing quarterback he's going to play with. Thank you for summing up my thoughts in one clear, concise sentence. Thank you. And that's not a knock on Jalen Hertz. I just think that Drake May may be a better passer. You know, so. Yes.

And it remains to be seen. I mean, he's obviously still very young in his career. But I think you're making this move, if they're making this move, and probably giving up the compensation, whether it's a first round pick or multiple two,

so however this is going to unfold. And signing Romeo Dobbs. Like, clearly they realized their passing game was not as good as it could be last year. And so does that change how things look from an offensive standpoint? Plus, you factor in, like you said, more competitive schedule. probably more opportunities to throw the ball.

You're still looking at a backfield that I think has some questions. You know, Ramandre was really good last year, but is he a true lead running back? Is Trevianne Henderson that guy? You know, so I would expect more of a 50-50 split, if not maybe a little bit more leaning toward a more pass-heavy, you know, to what degree we'll find out. So I think this is just the evolution of what you do

when you have these young quarterbacks as you build around them and then you try to add a piece of significance, and A.J. Brown is that piece. And so does that make things better for him? that's what I'm counting on. You know, I think, again, yes, he didn't have a great season last year. There was a stretch where he was still a very dominant fantasy option and a very solid wide receiver.

You know, it wasn't what we're used to seeing because we're used to seeing more of it. And when he was bad, he was really bad. But I think if you look at it and say, okay, can he still be that guy? He's still under 30. You know, he's getting closer to the end of his prime, but he's still in it right now, at least. And you have to hope that if he was unmotivated last year and all the things that unfolded, he's got to be hopefully as motivated as he's been, you know, certainly when he went to Philadelphia at that time. Again, younger receiver, he was, you know, clearly joining a friend of his and that friendship has fallen apart, which I'm sure factor in all this as well. The offense coordinator is better than what he had last year. I think that's easy to say. And so, you know, he's looking at, I think, I don't know how long of a run this is, but I think for 2026, A.J. Brown could still be, I don't know, top three at him, but I think he could still push to be top 10. All right, I can take a break. By the way, A.J. Brown averaged 18.6 PPR fantasy points per game, which is phenomenal in his last seven games when he was on pace for 163 targets.

I'll just bring up one more thing with these guys when we come back after this quick break on fantasy football today. So with Brown and Abuka, you know, A.J. Brown had a preseason, was it a hamstring injury? I think it was a hamstring injury in the preseason. I just saw an article August 25th where he was the practice with a hamstring injury. and people thought he was hurt. And then Abuca, I'm just going to read directly from ESPN. ESPN wrote, A week six hamstring injuries for Meccaabuka.

A week six hamstring injury robbed him of his top speed. NFL NextGen stats tracking data had a Bucca with 11 routes of at least 18 miles per hour through the first five weeks of the season and 11 such routes in the remaining 12 weeks after the hamstring injury. So just something to keep in mind. That's exactly when the downstance. turn started for a buca he was supposed to miss time and then he was a surprise active he and he

didn't miss any games so he tried gutting through what turned out to be a pretty bad hamstring injury uh the highlight from o't owing and aing about i think his speed looks pretty good in that play that's more that's just as impressive to me as catching a ball behind him and you know making the one-handed grab i'm i'm bullish on a book i'd still rather draft a j brown but those two to me are like right in that low end wide receiver one range on draft deck. Does anybody have anything else to say about Zay Flowers? We kind of overlooked him in this group of three. Yeah, I think part of it is like I'm maybe more high on flowers than low on the other two guys

in terms of where they are in our consensus rankings. He comes out of somebody in the chat said he's going to be a top 10 wide receiver this year. He actually comes out as wide receiver 10 in my projections. So I think he's awesome as a play. I'm hopeful for an uptick in passing attempts with the new offensive coordinator there. And I don't see anybody on that team that's going to challenge his 30% target share. Okay. Doyle does have a history of working with coaches who love tight ends.

And Doyle himself is a former tight ends coach. And the Ravens have gotten rid of their fullback. So I'm expecting them to be one of many teams. that see their personnel usage of two plus tight ends go way up. I don't know if that necessarily means a huge drop off, if any, in targets for Zay Flowers and a 30% target share sounds great, but he's been at 6.9, 6.8 targets per game each of the last two years, and he's had flashes and certainly streaks of huge fantasy games

and also terrible floors where he's getting 10, 11, maybe even less PPR points per game. I love the talent. I say it every time I talk about Zayflow. Flowers. Love the talent. Wish you would get eight targets per game. Wish he'd get used more in the red zone. He'd be awesome for Fantasy. If that would happen, it hasn't happened. And I don't know if it's ever going to happen. Keith, what are your target projections for Flowers? It's a career high. I know that. I've got him at 130.

Okay. Well, over 17 games, 7.6 targets per game. That would be a career high. Yeah, his career high, I think, is 118. Well, and you've talked about how he had basically the same number of targets the last two years. But two years ago, they threw 55 more passes. So he earned a higher share of the targets last year. If we get 50 more passes, then it might be another 15 targets for him right there. Yeah, that would put them over seven per game easily. On a per game basis, last year we actually had four wide receivers finished top 12 per game.

with 120 or fewer targets. That's in the four seasons before that, we had a combined three. And last year we had four. So it had been very difficult to be a top 12 wide receiver per game with 120. Technically is 121 or fewer targets.

Somebody did it with 121, so I counted him. To be top 12 per game with that target range. But four guys did it last year, including flowers. All right. Next group of three. This is wide receivers 16, 17, and 18 in our consensus rankings. Devante Smith, Teterole McMillan, Malik, Neighbors. Jamie, your thoughts on this group?

How do you rank Devante Smith, Teterole McMillan, Malik Neighbors? Smith, McMillan, Neighbors. Smith, McMillan Neighbors, just like that. Heath? I've got it, McMillan Smith neighbors, but McMillan and Smith are separated by zero point. one seven points in my season long projections. So it's like they are tied. If I could just have those with the same ranking, that'd be perfect. Dave. McMillan, Smith, Gap, Neighbors. Do you have

other people ranked ahead of Neighbors? Yes. Who? Alave Waddle, Gare Wilson, Zayflowers. Okay. So a little bit different than the consensus rankings. All right, so Neighbors is last for everyone. and then DeBonte Smith and Tetral Macmillan appear to be very close. Heath, give me your thoughts on this group of three. I think McMillan has, in my opinion, the least amount of upside currently, which is saying strange probably to put him first if that's the case. I think until AJ Brown's actually gone, McMillan probably has the safest floor of this group.

And if we get to the first day of training camp and Malik Naber, as a full participant, then he's not even, I'm not even sure if he's on this graphic anymore. No, he won't be. Oh, man. You think he'll be in the top 10? I think so.

He's not on the Pup list to start training camp, and he's out there almost every day with the Giants. That's, first of all, I'd be really surprised at that happened, but second of all, that would be a really good sign. I guess so,

but I just, It's after all of this, right, after a very, you know, serious knee injury with multiple ligaments, I can't remember exactly what the injury was. But, oh, no, it was meniscus. It was ACL and meniscus. Yes. With multiple surgeries. Not his LPP.

No. Not his OPP. It's TLC. Multiple surgeries. I just, like, I don't know what to expect. I just can't sit here and expect Malik neighbors to be himself, even when he's, quote, unquote, healthy and on the field. You know what I mean?

Like obviously Brock Bowers didn't have surgery last year. He came back and he wasn't himself. So he was healthy. He was ready to play, but he was obviously hampered. I don't know, man. To me, if Malik Neighbors gets drafted as a top 10 wide receiver,

I think it would be a mistake. You got to be pretty sold on him being his old self. At this point, he won't be a top 10 receiver for me. So he might move up a couple spots, but he'll be in this range for this year. what do you guys think just based on what you've seen from the Giants offense and what they plan to be? Dave said the Ravens got rid of their fullback.

Well, he went to the Giants. They drafted an interior offensive lineman in the top of the 10th overall pick. And they've said repeatedly they want to run the football. So let's just say Malik neighbors were healthy. The health wasn't a concern. What kind of year do you think he would have, Dave? Do you think he'd be able to get a lot of tariff? and be an awesome fantasy producer in this offense?

I think he'd be around seven and a half to eight targets per game if he's his old self. There's no question. I'm sorry, if he was healthy, so like the injury never happened? Yeah, basically. Okay. Well, if the injury never happened, then we're talking about the top five overall. Right. Right, right, right, right.

Because most of those guys are getting, you know, close to 10 targets a game. You think that's on the table? If he had stayed healthy, he would have been fantastic last year or close to it. And then you're talking about coming off that year with what Jackson Dart did. Like the expectations would have been unrealistic. Yeah, I don't. If he was completely healthy, I would expect him to get nine targets game. Okay.

I wouldn't. I think it goes down. I did a whole dive on every single new play caller in the league. And I think the biggest influence on Matt Nagy is going to end up being John Harbaugh. This is from the story I wrote. You'll see it on CBSSports.com in the next week. In 18 seasons, the Ravens were above a 60% pass rate three times between 56 and 59% three other times. So that means that there were six out of 18 seasons where they were throwing the ball, 56 plus percent of the time.

Seems pretty low. The Giants last year with Jackson Dart threw the ball 51.4% of his plays. Yes. John Harbaal does not want to turn into a crazy high-volume passing offense, even if he's got Malik neighbors there. he's going to ask Matt Nagy to call a lot of runs. Maybe that changes if Scataboo gets hurt early on in the year. Tyrone Tracy is totally ineffective. Yeah, of course, then they're going to have to start to throw a little bit more.

But even if the injury had never happened, I would expect at least a small downturn in target volume for Malik Neighbors. And now that he might not be, who the hell knows how he's going to be by the time we get to August 1st. But if he's not practicing and he's not himself, he might average six targets per game all year. Well, I did want to get your thoughts on that because I know it's hypothetical and all, but I just wanted to point out that the Giants want to go in a different direction offensively, if they can pull it off. Their lead running back is coming off a serious injury too. And also that Jackson Dart didn't really throw that much because he ran the ball so much.

I don't remember it was 28-ish pass attempts per game, something like that in his starts. Not a lot. All right. But the other guy is Devante Smith and Teddryl McMillan. Jamie, what, if anything, separates Smith for you from. McMillan. I mean, the hope would be is that if AJ Brown does get traded, which is the expectation, that the rest of the receiving core, including a guy that they drafted at 20th overall,

is nowhere near AJ Brown. So, you know, Mackay Lemon, Dantavian Wicks, Marquis Brown, you know, there's one more guy in there, you know, that they just make Devante Smith the number one receiver. And that's what they've been saying, you know, at least the reports out of Philadelphia have been, they viewed Devante Smith as a number one. receiver. He takes that step forward. He's been 14.2 PPR points or more in the three games that AJ Brown has missed during their time together. That's such a small sample size. But, you know, it's 14.2, 14.7, like 21 something. You know, so he has the chance to be amazing. And in all three of those

games, it was nine targets or more. So we're looking at a guy that hopefully will get fed. That being said, you know, it's a matter of how high you want to have him. You know, I've seen some of the comments in the chat, DeMonte Smith should be where AJ Brown is. Devante Smith should be, you know, where T. Higgins is, you know, so I think a lot of people are excited about the situation. And again, they should be. But now you're putting in a high profile rookie. You're bringing in some veteran guys that they really didn't lean on really anybody in the past that was just really concentrated to the three main past catching options of the two receivers in the tight end. They have a second tight end now. You know, I think the new coordinator will throw the ball a little bit

more to Sequan Barkley and Sean Mannion. So, you know, that's something I think that could help Barclay as well. I just think you're looking at Devante Smith and the runway is pretty clear. So hopefully that's the case for him going into this season. Dave, your thoughts on Devante Smith versus Tedroa McMillan?

I want to believe it with Devante Smith and Tedroa McMillan. I think it might be easier to actually buy into Devante Smith because we've seen him in the small sample size without AJ Brown. And frankly, in games when Brown's played and Alice Goddard's been out that Devante Smith sees an uptick in targets

and he does usually really well with them. And that gets me excited about what he could end up being in Philly's office. I think they're going to be coordinated much better. That's not saying much. They were terrible last year. But I think Sean Mannion is one of these Wunderkin type of play callers. He's only been coaching in the NFL. This is his third season, I think, coaching in the National Football League, and he's already an offensive coordinator. I think it's going to be a sharper offense. Certainly, you know, West Coast timing base. Devante Smith knows he's got to be. on this spot at the field in this many seconds,

turning around, balls out, and it's there, and he has to make a play after the catch. And I think he can pull that off. So I'm kind of excited about Smith in that regard. With McMillan, you're just hoping that he gets not just more targets, but just does more with them. Last year he had a bunch of games where he had at least seven times. He had 10 games with 7 plus targets.

He had 15 plus PPR and 4 of the 10. So I'm hoping that he takes a second year jump. I'm not really discouraged by, anything that the Panthers did with their passing game. And I'm still not sure that the Panthers running game is going to be where Carolina wants it to be. This could be a situation where they don't want to be a throwing team, but they might have to be.

And that would obviously benefit McMillan. He could probably have a lot of games this year with A plus targets. And Heath, McMillan versus Smith, you said you have almost exactly even in your projections. I think they pretty much covered it. I just don't have much hope that Bryce Young, going to be good enough to make Tedaroa McMillan a top 12. Maybe he could be a top 12 wide receiver if it's like last year was. But I think Smith has more upside and just a little more downside because we haven't seen him in this role recently.

I think the thing from McMillan is like if he does what he did a year ago, you'll be happy about it. He had some good, I know Dave said, you know, he has to do more with the targets, but I, I, I, I, Look, I think some of his production was just boosted. He had a 33-point game against the Falcons in week 11. Other than that, he scored 16 or more points in five total games out of 17. I mean, this is like the greatest division. You get Pitts against the Bucks, and he just goes nuts. You get McMillan against the Falcons.

He goes nuts. It felt like a really frustrating season where most weeks he was disappointing. But at the end of the day, he had 1,000 yards as a rookie. He was 26th out of 78 wide receivers with 50 or more targets. Tedderoa McMillan was 26 in yards per outrun, 18th in yards per catch, 28th in yards per target, only 30th in target per outrun rate, but that's not terrible. He did have a lot of drops, though, 6.7% drop rate, so he's got to clean that up. But I think a pretty encouraging season, if you go game by game, it's not that good for McMillan,

but just look at the overall numbers. Finishing his wide receiver 23 per game, granted in a down year for receivers was really good for it. I mean, again, you hope year two is better. You know, typically rookies, you've highlighted this forever. Typically, rookies that produce like this tend to get better. And he obviously was a high profile draft pick. So it really comes down to do you buy into Bryce Young? Do you buy into this offense?

And I think that's what, for me, hold me back a little bit with McMillan, is that you're looking at a quarterback. He's said it, but I don't think he's going to elevate him to the heights of being a top 10 guy, at least right now. So if you just, I think, draft him accordingly, As a mid-tier wide receiver, that's fine.

Does he have the ability to get better? Sure. He can be a 9 to 10 touchdown guy. It wouldn't shock me. They also added another receiver that's getting some buzz, you know, for what it's worth. Xavier will get lost weight, you know, trying to, I think, save whatever he can of his, you know, disappointing first two seasons of his career. I think Jalen Koch are healthy for a full season will matter too.

And then we'll see what this backfoot looks like, which may be a plus for McMillan if they can't run the ball to the same level of success that they had last year. So I think McMillan is, to me, appropriately priced. You know, somewhere in the late teens is where I would be looking to target him. I probably would not take them until around four. But I just think there's more upside,

like he said, for Devante Smith, as we kind of illustrated. Okay, I'm going to read a few chat comments to end the show. From Wisco Disco. Are most of CBS rankings assuming A.J. Brown is traded, or will some of you move Devante Smith up even more once the trade happens? Mine assume AJ Brown has traded. Same. By the way, you missed Wisco, Disco 97's best comment in the chat

because Johnny Airport said if the Knicks win, I think he said the next one, you have to go clubbing with him for 24 hours straight. And Wiscoe Disco said Johnny would not have enough hand sanitizer to take with him or something along those lines. If the Knicks win, I have to go clubbing? I'd say if the Spurs win, I have to go clubbing. And there's not many things I'd like to do less than go clubbing for even one hour. Gosh, 24, my goodness.

Johnny Airport wants to know if we should expect Zay Flowers numbers from Malik Neighbors. And that would be from last year, 86 catches, 1,200 yards, five touchdowns on 118 targets. I have no idea what to. Who knows what to expect? But 1,200 yards, do you think he'd hit that if he played 17 games, Malik Neighbors? I think we're going to see two seasons from Malik Nabilms. is a struggling beginning until he gets his legs underneath him

and see what his offense looks like and then a strong finish. And then Johnny also says, if you're worried about Tetaro McMillan because of Bryce, then Justin Jefferson should scare you even more. I guess because of Kyler. I have Malik Tvers

projected for almost exactly the same fantasy points per game as Zay Flowers last year. Oh, not that. There you go. You're worried about Justin Jefferson with Kyler? I mean, a little.

There are some concerns. Yeah. Yeah. They're small concerns. I like that. Good. Nice pun to end the show. Okay.

Thanks everybody for watching and listening. Johnny says, I had a feeling that Adam hates clubs and social settings in general. What would give you that idea? I like social setting. Of course I hate clubs, but I like social settings, preferably preferably involving food, you know, like a dinner. I like a dinner. What would your ideal night out with your friends be?

What would you do? Like just guy friends? Yeah. While you think about it, mine would be poker and pizza, like play some poker, order pizza. Watch the game. It'd probably be a game thing. I was thinking, like sitting at home waiting for Adam to call me and invite me to the thing that Dave and Jamie you've already gone to.

That event, Heath, by the way, is a help Adam with his player outlooks party. Yeah. I'll call you for that. He called me and he gave me some, like, fake question that he really didn't want to ask. And then it was, he goes, I have two questions for you. And the first question was like, so stupid. Then the second one was like, so how do I write these player outlooks? No.

I said, like, how do I know who to write about? Didn't you do it last year? Yeah, I did. I did. Oh, you're an expert. They were great. I got a lot of great reviews on them. Lots of positive feedback on those.

Yeah. All right, well, Heath and Dave, and if you guys have a night out that you like to plan with your guy friends, Dave would go to the casino. Stakes, sports casino. I'm more of a night-end kind of guy. Halloween. I guess it would be, yeah, like house party with the porch light term. turned off, sitting on the back patio with a fire going, some meat on the smoker.

Okay, I'd come to that if I got invited. You would not. I wouldn't come or I would not get invited. Yeah, wait, what's the flip side of this? Has he ever invited Dave, Adam anywhere? No. Yes. Where?

Winwood Brewing. It was an actual event that I scheduled and invited you to. And I came. I went. You did. And I drank a little, a tiny bit. Wow. Yeah, I had a sip.

A few. He had a few sips, yeah. Called a flight, by the way, when you get all that beer in those little glasses, called a flight. Yeah. Okay, thanks for watching and listening. By the way, four shows a week now. We're in June. So we'll talk to you either tomorrow or when AJ Brown gets traded, whatever happens first.

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