Fantasy Football Today - QB Prospect Breakdowns; Fill in the Blank (04/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 8, 2021

Emory Hunt tells you everything you need to know about the 2021 QB class! We start with a lot of Justin Fields and Mac Jones talk and discuss how Jones would fit with the 49ers. Emory has Fields as th...e higher-rated guy. Of course we discuss Trevor Lawrence (12:00), what he'll do for the Jaguars WRs and if he will be a superstar. And we get into Zach Wilson (18:30), Trey Lance (24:00) and the rest of the names to know (28:55) ... News and notes (35:00) including what the addition of Jordan Howard in Philadelphia and the release of Giovani Bernard in Cincinnati mean for Miles Sanders and Joe Mixon ... Fill in the Blank (44:00)! Some ADP questions and more fun ones from our listeners. We also read your Apple Podcast questions (53:15) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow the FFT in 5 podcast on Apple, Spotify, Google, or wherever you listen to FFT. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @CTowersCBS, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Follow 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Time to get into the NFL draft. Do we know already who the first three picks are going to be? It kind of seems that way, but maybe not. Maybe Justin Fields can kind of sneak his way in there and beat the San Francisco 49ers pick at third overall.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Well, I'm Adam Azer. You know Dave Richard. Hey, Dave. What's up, Adam? That's Dave Richard. Everybody knows him. Emory Hunt is here. Emory Hunt.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Okay, so it's 10 a.m. locally for me. Your central time, Adam? That's Dave Rich. Everybody knows him. Emory Hunt is here. Emory Hunt. Okay, so it's 10 a.m. locally for me. You're Central Time, right? Emory, you're 9 a.m.? No, I'm East Coast. Oh, you are? Okay, cool. Okay, so it's 10 a.m. How much film have you watched this morning?
Starting point is 00:01:58 I watched a lot of film, and it's interesting because I watched Canadian prospects getting prepared for their combining drafts. So I'm always watching film. Wow. Always, always. And you can follow Emery at FBallGamePlan. Tell us about your website. Tell us about how to find you and what you do. You can find me on FootballGamePlan.com, YouTube.com slash FootballGamePlan.
Starting point is 00:02:20 We have a really good extensive draft guide as well. You can check that out. FootballGamePlan.com slash 2021 draft guide. So we cover a lot of prospects and that's what we do. We want to make sure the football fan stays informed and that's whether it's, you know, from X's and O's to scouting to game previews. We just like talking football, no matter where it is, Canadian, American women's tackle football, high school football, we cover it all. Yeah, it's really comprehensive stuff. The draft guide is awesome. So check it all out, footballgameplan.com. And again, follow him at FBallGameplan on Twitter. He's part of the CBS family. You're going to hear a lot from him. He's on FFT and Five every week
Starting point is 00:02:59 with me breaking down prospects. So first half of the show, Emery's going to join us to talk about the quarterbacks this week. And then Dave and I will do some fill in the blank. We'll answer your Apple podcast questions. We have a lot of those. And hopefully we have time for your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Also, the Bengals released Giovanni Bernard. What might that mean for Joe Mixon?
Starting point is 00:03:19 The Eagles re-signed a week ago. They re-signed Boston Scott. That wasn't a surprise, but they also are bringing back Jordan Howard. So we will get to some of the news items as well. All right, Emory, first question for you. Do you think one, two, and three are going to be Trevor Lawrence to the Jaguars, Zach Wilson to the Jets, and Mac Jones to the 49ers? That's a great question. I don't know if that's going to be the order, but I do think you'll see quarterbacks one two three i would have it trevor lawrence justin fields and zach wilson i think those are the top three quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:03:52 in this draft class that i would take in the first round to me those are the three quote-unquote first round type quarterbacks that can be difference makers from day one lawrence then fields then wilson because a lot of people are saying that Fields isn't good enough and that he's having all these little problems and things coming out in the media and you're you are out there. You're saying he's number two, Emery. Yeah. And here's the thing. If he played another year at Ohio State, his resume would look just like Trevor Lawrence's resume. They both played a lot of games, a lot of meaningful games. And if Chris Olave runs the right route, that ball hits him right in the throat, and he beats Trevor Lawrence two years in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And I think when you look at Trevor Lawrence, a lot of his big games have been losses in the playoffs. Outside of his freshman year when he beat Alabama and they won a championship, Fields has won a lot of big games. And I think when you look at that aspect of it and how competitive he is, and you think about his last game against Clemson, when he took that shot and really couldn't run anymore. So he had to play a one dimensional game,
Starting point is 00:04:55 went out through six touchdown passes and blew out the Clemson tiger. So I think he's battle tested. I also believe he has the mentality to play in the NFL. And that's something you have to really evaluate. How big is the moment for a guy? Can he handle the big stage? To me, you have to be mentally prepared to play quarterback out here in New York. And if you're not, you can crumble. So I think his mentality, his play, and over the last two seasons, the upside,
Starting point is 00:05:27 because he only played a two full years of college football. That's right. Due to Georgia. I think he has the right potential to be the second quarterback. I think he's got a big arm. I think his accuracy is good. I think he's built for today's NFL game. I think he's got good size to go with it. I think he is.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I get the concerns about the whole second read thing, but I think he can do it. And I think if he was asked to do it, it wouldn't second read thing but I think he can do it and I think if he was asked to do it it wouldn't be a problem I think he'd prepare fine I agree I think he's the second best quarterback in the draft class I would put him ahead of Zach Wilson as well
Starting point is 00:05:56 let me give you guys one note here let me get you through it well two notes first of all talk about the wins and all that I don't know how much it matters because the uh best career win percentage for starting quarterbacks with 30 or more starts ken dorsey out of miami is number one he's a is he still a quarterbacks coach right i believe he's in buffalo okay and matt leinert is number two and dorsey wasn't really a much of a pro prospect leinert didn't do much trevor Trevor Lawrence is number three at 34-2. So, yeah, I don't know what to make of that.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Obviously, you want quarterbacks who have won, but I don't know how much it matters. And then for Fields, if there's a concerning stat, his pass efficiency, he was 40th in the nation under pressure. He was fourth without any pressure. He was 40th under pressure. Whereas you look at Mac Jones, I think a lot of people a month ago would be surprised to hear Mac Jones going ahead of Fields. But right now, the rumor is the 49ers are taking Jones. However, Justin Fields is going
Starting point is 00:06:56 to have a second pro day now. The 49ers weren't at his first one because they were at Mac Jones's pro day, at least Kyle Shanahan and I think Lynch, but Kyle Shanahan will be there for field second pro day, but this is really cool for Mac Jones. He was, his pass efficiency, first against man, third against zone. This is 68 players with 200 more attempts, so Jones was first against man, third against zone, number one inside the pocket. His worst number is outside the pocket where he was only 17th. That's not bad. First against the Blitz. First against no Blitz. Second best pass efficiency under pressure.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Second best pass efficiency without pressure. And then throwing down the field, 25 plus yards, air yards. Third best pass efficiency. So what do you make of that, Emery? The metrics might say that Jones, at least under pressure, is significantly better than Fields. He should go first overall then, right? If he's that good.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Let me tell you this, and this is not a knock against Mac Jones, but when you look at Alabama's situation, they get the best of the best. So their roster is stockpiled with five-star talents. So you're practicing against five-star players every day. So you go out there in a game day situation and you're infinitely better than your opponent. So you really haven't seen Matt Jones deal with conflict and you don't want the first time you deal with conflict to be at the pro level. We just saw this play out last year with Tua Tonga Baloa. Great success at Alabama, goes to Miami, deals with conflict, can't really replicate that success at the next level.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I want to say this. If I were to ask you about these quarterbacks and would you take them in the first round or take them in the top three, would you take Jimmy Garoppolo, Matt Hassel take them in the top three would you take jimmy garoppolo matt hasselbeck in the top three kurt cousins knowing how their career played out would you take those guys in the top three probably not and i think that's where matt jones lies he's my fourth rated quarterback but i don't have a first round grade on him he's someone that i if he he is someone that I think would be an ideal fit in a place like Washington
Starting point is 00:09:08 or Chicago, someplace that has a lot of good players already established on both sides of the ball. So he can kind of be the bus driver, but you draft someone
Starting point is 00:09:18 in the top five. You want someone that can be a difference maker. And I don't think that's his game. Bus driver is perfect. And that's what he was at Alabama. He just did it really, really well.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But Dave, isn't that San Francisco? I know it's a top three pick, which is wild. But I mean, so listen, I think that's what I can't say for sure what the 49ers want. But I remember Kyle Shanahan fawning over Kirk Cousins once upon a time. And so he might look at Mac Jones and say he's a lot over Kirk Cousins once upon a time. And so he might look at Mac Jones and say, he's a lot like Kirk Cousins. I don't think he's got quite the same arm strength as Kirk Cousins, but I think he's smart. I think he can make good decisions with the football. He seems to be unfazed by the blitz. And he just seems to be the type of quarterback that can
Starting point is 00:10:01 kind of be a good West Coast offense quarterback. I don't think he's necessarily the type of guy, A, who can elevate the whole team and lead them to the Super Bowl. I know he just won the national championship, but I just feel like there's something different where sometimes quarterbacks make their players around them better. I think that's what happens in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers, because if you had Kirk Cousins throwing to Devonta Adams, I don't know if Devonta Adams would be as good. But I also see Mac Jones as someone who's not going to be great for fantasy, especially if he goes to San Francisco, because
Starting point is 00:10:32 that's a teammate that likes to run the football a lot. And B, if he's not going to generate anything on the ground, he's not going to give you rushing yards. That already puts a cap on his fantasy production. And if he's not in a situation where he's throwing for over 300 yards and three touchdowns every week, that's another cap. So I don't think that Mac Jones is somebody who can be exceptional for fantasy, nor be a great quarterback to help the 49ers or whoever drafts him become Super Bowl champions. I don't think he'll be the reason why they're Super Bowl champions. The 49ers quarterbacks, just looking at the last four years under Kyle Shanahan, a typical season might be something like
Starting point is 00:11:08 4,200 yards and 26 touchdowns, something like that. It's really not that bad, but when you take those numbers, expect that from a rookie, let's say a hypothetical scenario where they take Mac Jones and he starts all 17 games.
Starting point is 00:11:22 This is, of course, a 16-game pace of 4,200 yards, 26 touchdowns, something like that. That's a great rookie season, by the way. You're probably not going to get that. But with no rushing on top, or very little rushing, that's really not a huge fantasy impact. And we know they like to run the ball when they can. We can't skip over Trevor Lawrence, so we'll come back to him.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I want to stay on fields, though. Emery, since he's number two for you and people were very split on him. It seems, what is it that some evaluators don't like about Justin Fields? I think they focused on about seven passes, uh, in two games, um, Indiana and Northwestern, both of which they went back and won those games. Um, but I think they went back and won those games. But I think they focus on him holding the football too long. But this has been explained time and time again.
Starting point is 00:12:18 When you look at how they play offense, they're asking both the receiver and quarterback to rely on option routes. So the quarterback sees it from his perspective. He sees it faster than the receiver who's running into it. So you're expecting the receiver to be on the same page as the quarterback. So to the late person, it's like, man, get rid of the football. But if you're waiting for this receiver to make the same choice that you've already made because you see it faster than he is, you have to hold the football. And their offense may be predicated on working touchdown to check down now he can be in an offense where they run a lot of these bubble screens or quick touch passes and then we people would say well yeah he has an 86 completion percentage but it's all short passes bubble screens but when you look at what they're expecting them to do offensively they may be
Starting point is 00:13:00 working touchdown to check down that's why we see a lot of big plays come from this offense and i think that's why the perception is lot of big plays come from this offense. And I think that's why the perception is that he holds the football too long, but that's just their offense. They're reading this. They're expecting both guys to read the same things on the fly. And that's why we see what we see. All right. Let me ask you about Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:13:17 How good of a prospect is he? Who would you compare Trevor Lawrence to? I like Trevor Lawrence. And again, it's hard to step in at that position as a true freshman and play like that, considering what they were coming off of. And Kelly Bryant got injured. He had to step in and take that team the entire way. And he himself got injured, had to come back and really lead that team to victory. So I like Trevor Lawrence. I think he's battle-tested. He is the athletic quarterback that you want in today's game.
Starting point is 00:13:46 He's built like a Carson Wentz was at North Dakota State. They have the same weird throwing motion where it's almost like they're a baseball pitcher, where they throw off one leg, they aim and stuff like that. So I think he does have a lot of good traits. And I would say the way he plays in that position, you can see him stepping in right away and being able to hold his own. The Jaguars offense isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. They were always missing a quarterback. And I think they're going to get that guy that can start out early as the bus driver that we just talked about, but also has the ability to play above the X's and O's. And that's the element that they missed. That's the element that they didn't get from Gardner Minshew.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That's what they're going to get from Trevor Lawrence, who also has the ability to make plays with his legs. So when you add all of those factors in, plus the game experience of playing in big games and winning big games in route to going to the playoffs, yes, he's the most pro-ready quarterback, in my opinion. And do you think that DJ Chark, I want to ask a fantasy question here. He gets now Marvin Jones as some competition.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Do you think that Trevor Lawrence is going to take his game to another level? I have questions about just how good DJ Chark is. His first five games of his second year were tremendous. He had 523, sorry, he had 485 yards and five touchdowns in those five games. Since then, he's played 23 games, 174 targets, and 1,229 yards and eight touchdowns, I believe. It's really, you know, in 23 games, it's really not very good production. And 14 or more PPR fantasy points in six of those 23 games. So basically since the, since the six week, six of 2020 DJ chart 2019, sorry, DJ chart hasn't really done much. Is that because of the quarterback? Is that
Starting point is 00:15:36 because of DJ chart? I think it's partly because of the quarterback. That's why when you look at situations, let's say like the Raiders that drafted Henry Ruggs, you know, now you pair a deep threat up with a guy that doesn't throw deep, you know? And so we just started to see Derek Carr do that. I think when you get someone like Trevor Lawrence, who's stable, who's consistent, and also who spreads the wealth a little bit, it changes how you cover, you know, a receiver. He won't, he won't rely solely on one guy. So he'll spread the wealth, which changes how you cover that receiving core which then opens up opportunities for everyone else to really eat
Starting point is 00:16:11 and thrive so i think you'll see uh the better version of dj dj shark and the other targets because he doesn't lock in on one target he spreads the wealth he also is an athlete so you got to worry about him running the football which then creates uh certain bubbles in the passing game so yes i do think chalk's lack of consistent success was due to the fact that the quarterback was just highly inconsistent i think he could be more efficient i'm worried about the target volume unless jacksonville does something wild like they put him in the slot more often i i thought that lawrence especially last year kind of leaned on the slot receiver a little bit in the offense at Clemson. And I wonder if that'll carry over to what Urban Meyer asked
Starting point is 00:16:49 him to do in Jacksonville. And so whoever that slot guy is for Jacksonville, I'll be mildly intrigued in him. I think Marvin Jones is there to take pressure off the other side for Chark, but I have a hard time believing that Chark's going to get to that 120 target mark and become a stud fantasy receiver on a week-to-week basis. I think he's got to get to that 120 target mark and and become a stud fantasy receiver on a on a week-to-week basis i think he's got a shot to be an okay number three receiver uh david i want to ask you where you would rank trevor lawrence but i have to remind everybody it's a big week it is master's week butler cabin the green jacket pimento cheese sandwiches oh baby it's cbs sports is your home for all of this to watch DJ, Brooks, Rory,
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Starting point is 00:17:50 It is a big week in golf. We're very excited for it. CBS Sports is your home and check it all out on the website, on the app and on Paramount Plus. OK, Dave, Trevor Lawrence of the Jaguars. Where do you think he'll end up in your rankings?
Starting point is 00:18:01 I think he'll end up somewhere south of 15th among all quarterbacks. And it could be as far south as like 22nd. There's going to come a point where you, you think about the upside in Lawrence and it's going to be late in a one quarterback draft. And you're going to say,
Starting point is 00:18:15 what the hell I'm going to take them. And you'll take them over guys like Baker and big Ben and Carson Wentz. I think maybe some people will have an easy time taking him over Kirk cousins and Derek Carr as well, because they figured that they can get a quarterback like Cousins or like Carr off the waiver wire during the season. It'll be a little bit different in two quarterback leagues. I think some fantasy managers will go toward the more tried and true quarterback to be their second quarterback or maybe their first quarterback. If they wait on the position, they'll take Cousins
Starting point is 00:18:42 and Carr and maybe even roll the dice on Carson Wentz. That'll probably be the deciding line for Trevor, whether or not you take him ahead of or behind Carson Wentz. But I think he will be a good number two fantasy quarterback for the Superflex, for the two QB leagues. I think he's got the built-in upside because of his rushing and because of the fact that Jacksonville will probably throw a little bit more than they'd want to throw because they'll be in competitive games or playing from behind. And to wrap it up on Trevor Lawrence, Emery, do you think we're looking at a superstar here? I think so. Judging by what we see right now in the NFL, I think we'll see a guy that's going to be a consistent Pro Bowl player in Jacksonville because everything will be built around him for his success. And he's a good player. It's not like we're hyping up someone that isn't good.
Starting point is 00:19:31 This is a legit good player going to a good situation where everything around him will be catered to his success. So yes, I do think he could be a superstar. Okay. Talk to me about Zach Wilson. What do you see? You said that he's third for you behind Lawrence and Fields, but those are the three players that you consider first-round talents. So tell me, what do you see when you look at Zach Wilson, who is likely going to the Jets? People will hear this name and think of it as a knock,
Starting point is 00:19:57 but it's not when you think about the talent the dude was. But Johnny Manziel, if you look at what Johnny Manziel did that season in the SEC, ran for over 1,400 yards, was making ridiculous plays in a passing game. And I think Wilson has that same type of cachet. But Wilson, to me, is a more polished passer. It's not just kind of scramble around and be a YOLO guy like Manziel was, albeit he was a good one. But I think he's more in control of where he wants to go with the football. Now, granted, this dude had elite protection at the collegiate level. Three NFL draft picks up front along that offensive line.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Two, I have first-round grades on Tristan Hodge and Brady Christensen, the tackle and guard. So, yes, he had a lot of help. Dax Milne is a fantastic receiver that's going to probably play a long time in the NFL, going to go late in the draft, but will be on the NFL roster. So he had a ton of help. But Wilson, to me, throws the best on the move. I think he's accurate on the move. I also love the fact that he is a gamer. Yes, they lost to Coastal Carolina, but he got them down the field in position to win that game on the last
Starting point is 00:21:06 play of the game. Dax Milne, I believe it was, came up just a yard short from crossing the goal line. So yeah, they didn't win, but it wasn't like they didn't have a shot. And I do think because we saw him healthy for the first time this season, play a full season healthy, juxtaposed with what he didn't do in 2019 yeah you have you love the upside of this guy hoping that he can stay healthy stay put together and continue to build on what he did this year so it's not an anomaly the anomaly was the fact that he wasn't healthy in 2019 but you go back and watch that usc game i thought he played well there they got the upset against a major team so he has played some big time football while out there in Provo.
Starting point is 00:21:47 We just hadn't seen it consistently because he hadn't been healthy. So that the health is a concern. He broke his right thumb in, in September of 2019 surgery on his right shoulder. That's his throwing short shoulder in January, 2019. I don't know if he missed anything in 2018, but those would be some slight concerns. I feel like maybe, what do you think of his body? I've got a couple of follow-ups for you, Emery. The first like maybe, what do you think of his body? I've got a couple of follow-ups for you. I'm really, the first one is what do you think of his body?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Do you think it can handle the physical pounding as a versatile two-way quarterback tends to have? He has to become more judicious. And when he decides to run over somebody, you can't be out there like Hershel Walker, when you built like a lowercase L you can't do that. Right. You can't, there's no 18 or Walker when you built like a lowercase L. You can't do that, right? There's no 18 or 19-year-old dudes out there that you just run over at the pro level. I think he suffers from a little bit of Mike Vick syndrome in that regard. You have to know when to slide, when to get out of bounds, when not to take the hit. You see good quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:22:40 tend to do that, that have been able to sustain success as a runner. So I do feel as though he can hold up physically, but he has to know when to let a play die, when to get out of bounds and pick your spots to run over guys when you need a first down or when you're right there at the pylon. Everywhere else, just slide, live the play down and you can last long. Play a little bit smarter when you run off with the football. The second question is, how do you think he did when the pressure was on? I felt like he left pockets maybe a little too early, maybe was rattled, even from mild pressure, much less heavy pressure.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Just your thoughts on how he did with that. Yeah, he didn't do too well with that because, again, think about it. You look at someone that had elite protection. So he never saw pressure so when he did it kind of threw him off think about this this there was one play in particular in the coastal carolina game it was early in the game or maybe in the second quarter it was fourth and one they went for it and they ran play action he had a wide open guy staring him in the face right underneath but he bailed that that clean pocket and tried a more difficult throw down the field toward the sideline where he
Starting point is 00:23:54 didn't give the receiver a chance and so you wonder why would you vacate a clean pocket why would you not see the guy staring you right in the face that would easily have converted the first down and why would you take the more difficult throw and a lot of it has to do with how you handle pressure situations um not necessarily not necessarily pressure from the defense so you weren't you wonder about those things but i think those things can work itself out with more reps and the ace in the hole he has is his athleticism so if he's facing pressure he can get out of dodge and make you pay which could then alleviate a lot of the pressure so i think we'll see him get better in that regard as we see him play more games wilson rushed for 254 yards last
Starting point is 00:24:38 year so he you know he's not justin fields or something like that but he's mobile and that's you know 221 yards as a freshman, or in 2018, 167, 2019, and then he played three extra games in 2020 compared to just nine in his first two seasons. Each of his first two seasons had 254 rushing yards. Dave, any more questions about Zach Wilson, or should we move on?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Let's move on. Okay. I asked you this on FFT in 5, Emery. Trey Lance, is he the next Josh Allen? Is that a fair comparison? It could be fair. And he's my fifth quarterback. And I like Trey Lance, the tools, the prospect. But I worry about Trey Lance's experience. Just what, last year or two years or last year, we saw people complain about Dwayne Haskins lack of game experience and this was a guy that was a Heisman finalist set Big Ten and NCAA records and yet we were worried about his
Starting point is 00:25:31 lack of game experience fast forward to this year and we forgot all of that and now we're ready to put a guy that has 15 games of experience coming from the FCS level in an offense where they predominantly ran a football and one way he didn't play well in the playoffs in 2019. And his one game this year was kind of okay and average from a passing perspective. So what are we doing? I do think he is a guy that is a toolsy guy. He's a more situation-specific player, in my opinion. So, yes, if I'm Atlanta, if I'm Washington, who is all in on a
Starting point is 00:26:06 guy that at 38 years old has never had a winning record anywhere, he's been a starter. You could let hit that guy play and then, you know, let Trey Lance slowly work himself into the lineup in year two. I like Detroit for Trey Lance, you know, because they're going to have to let golf play because of the contract before you can slowly walk Trey Lance in. We saw the great job Anthony Lynn did in developing Justin Herbert along with Pep Hamilton. I love places where he can sit and groom like they're doing with Jordan Love. But if you're expecting him to come out and play right away with that significant jump in level of competition, I worry about his long-term prospects. So I'd rather him go to a place where he can sit,
Starting point is 00:26:46 like behind Matt Ryan, behind Jared Goff, in Washington, behind Ryan Fitzpatrick. Wherever he may go, I think that's best. Even Chicago, behind Andy Dalton. I get that completely. Adam, I think he's got the most upside of any quarterback not named Trevor Lawrence in the draft. I think he's got the potential to be outstanding.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I think landing spot is going to be huge. Coaching influence is going to be huge. What Emery said about the lack of experience, especially playing on the FCS level, I think that that's a big problem. I also think his accuracy needs to be worked on, and that might come from... I've gone back and forth with people
Starting point is 00:27:24 on his footwork and his mechanics, so I'll probably ask you about that in a second, Emery, but there were times where I watch him and you look like his mechanics were great. And then you kind of go back and you look at older games of his and yeah, you can see that his base was a little wide and throwing motion was a little elongated. He needed to clean that up and he tried to clean that up on his pro day. And there were still some accuracy issues at his pro day. I counted seven off target passes at his pro day when there's no pressure and he's putting on a show for people that was a little concerning, but the physical tools are great.
Starting point is 00:27:56 He seems like a smart kid. I'm thinking the Patriots could be an interesting place for him to land where he can sit for a year behind cam Newton. And then he could come in and play starting in 2022, have a good offense around him that he's comfortable with. But he shouldn't be rushed onto the field unless he goes into camp in the offseason program, and he's just ready, and he's a wunderkind, and he just gets it.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And we won't know that, and the coaches won't know that until they actually get him in. I'm curious, Emery, footwork, mechanics for Trey Lance, you think they're good or you think there's work to be done? No, I think you're dead on. I think there is work to be done. And to me, comparison from a prospect standpoint, he's on that same plane with Deshaun Kaiser and Jordan Love from how they throw physically, man, he could throw the football anywhere they want to on the field. Footwork has been inconsistent for both guys.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And the accuracy was inconsistent for more so Jordan Love as opposed to Kaiser at Notre Dame. And I like Kaiser as a prospect. And same with him. He had to go to a situation where he should have been groomed and developed. That's the risk you take when guys come out early. And Kaiser was up there because he saw the potential, but he just didn't get the chance to really hone in and develop love is getting that opportunity and i think lance will get that opportunity because unlike love lance will get to play a lot in a preseason wherever he goes which is going to be huge but you're right the footwork
Starting point is 00:29:19 the mechanics has to be has to be consistent they They have to become consistent. And the luxury of playing at a school like North Dakota State, which is like the Alabama of the FCS, you tend to be better than everybody you go out there and face. And if you're dominating at the line of scrimmage and running the football, you don't have to throw the football. So he didn't get the amount of what they call 10,000 hours of reps. I think that's what he needs. That's why I want to see him go to a place where he can sit
Starting point is 00:29:46 and also play a lot in the preseason. Okay, so it looks like your top five is Lawrence, Fields, Wilson, Jones, Lance. And then tell me about some of the quarterbacks you have after those five and how good they could be, I guess. Yeah, these are more upside-type players, guys that I think are ideal QB2s, but that do have a pathway to QB1. You look at a Jamie Newman, who should have probably played this year, but I completely understand why he didn't and not going to fault him for that.
Starting point is 00:30:18 But we lost a year of development out there on the field. So I think Jamie Newman has the makeup to play in today's game. I also look at someone like Kellen Mann, who played a lot of football in a pro-style offense with pro-style coaching with Jimbo Fish, who does a great job in developing quarterbacks. So I think he's more apt to step in right away if you need a rookie to step in because he's played a lot. You look at a sleeper, you know, in Donald Hammond III out of Air Force, someone that can go in and, you know, develop because this is a guy at 6'2", 220, was a triple option quarterback at Air Force, but threw the football extremely well.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So he's someone that you probably can get late in the draft, stash him on your roster and work with him. And he has a track way. So those guys, I feel like are you know on the right track toward the pro starting position you know you look at Kyle Trask and yeah I like what he did this year but Trask to me is is a little bit outdated he's more Matt Schaub than anything and so if this was like 98 to 2003, he'd be a first round pick. But you have to be able to move in today's game. Felipe Franks is another toolsy guy, but so inconsistent, you know, and that's someone you kind of take a chance on.
Starting point is 00:31:33 If I was to if you didn't get Zach Wilson and you like that style and book would be the next in line because Ian Book got better this year. From a passing perspective, we know he's a good athlete. We know he's able to make things happen and create, which is key in today's game. So if you're in San Francisco and you didn't get a chance to take Zach Wilson and let's say the trade up takes up a position player in book would be another one of these ideal fits in Shanahan's offense. I think he throws well in the move. He can create he's mobile.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I thought he improved this year. Just suppose the last year he gave them a chance in every game, one, that big game against Clemson, uh, where he had to make some throws in the fourth quarter, bring them back down the field. So we saw him get better.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Just suppose the 2019 where he looked terrible in the playoffs. So I liked the growth that Ian book make. That's one of the true sleepers that I would take and trust to develop and move forward with if you're looking for a starter outside of day one. So what's the difference between Mac Jones and Kyle Trask? Athleticism. And I think Mac Jones consistently accurate. His placement is consistent. Trask's placement is all over the place. You hear the term hospital balls, where guys are going across the middle of the field
Starting point is 00:32:52 and have to reach up and reach back and get smacked in the process. That's Kyle Trask. His placement was good early on. When you watch him against Ole Miss, you're like, man, he really is putting the ball where it needs to be. But as the season went on, his placement got a little bit more scattershot.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Mack Jones' placement is consistent. That's why you see so many catch-and-run plays from Alabama wide receivers because he's hitting them in the right spot. They ain't got to brace for it. And they're going, you know, to the house because of their game-breaking speed. And his deep ball accuracy is way better than Kyle Trask. And Trask is one of the older prospects at the quarterback position. What's the hardest hit you've ever taken in a game, Emery? I would probably say I would have to go back to junior high because that was the only question I ever had. I was returning a kick and I got blindsided and I laid there for about three
Starting point is 00:33:48 seconds before I realized what was going on. I got up and everything looked like it was on a, on an angle. I was like, man, this, this is weird. And so in true, you know, early nineties fashion coach put me right back in the game, I didn't realize that afterwards. That was the only time I felt like I had a concussion, but that would be the hardest hit because I didn't see it coming. But from that point, best believe my head was on a swivel in high school and college. So I would have to go back that far to say that was the hardest hit I ever took. Well, that does not sound fun, but it was great talking quarterbacks with you. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 We'll have you back on to talk about some other positions as we get closer to the NFL draft, get back to Belgium professional football league or something and scout some, some new players for us. We'll do, but I appreciate you guys as always having me on. All right.
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Starting point is 00:36:01 and looking forward to breaking down the other positions. Okay, Dave, news and notes. The Falcons are open to trading the number four pick. That's not a surprise. They should be. Yep. The Rams GM, Les Snead, envisions Matthew Stafford as the team's starting quarterback for five to eight seasons.
Starting point is 00:36:16 All right. Okay. All right. Does that give them a little bit more appeal in Dynasty? Does that make them a good, i guess a buy low in dynasty figuring that you can squeeze squeeze stafford's juice for a few more years than you might anticipate i don't know i don't think it's i don't think it means that much but if you're really in a pickle a quarterback say you're in a super flex he's someone you can try and grab and
Starting point is 00:36:42 hope that less need is right about the at least the five-year part. Philadelphia signed Jordan Howard and they re-signed Boston Scott last week. That's awesome. Good. That's super. Okay, fine. We'll stay with that. The Bengals released Giovanni Bernardo. We'll go to the Eagles. Does this matter? We're just glossing
Starting point is 00:37:00 away. We're just going to gloss over Gio? No, we'll come back to that. Start with the Eagles. Does this matter? Jordan Howard and Boston Scott back. And again, the Boston Scott thing was not a surprise. They tendered him, I believe, so we knew he was coming back. But now Jordan Howard joining the fold.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Does this matter for Miles Sanders? Obviously, Scott matters more. I wonder if he'll become their version of Naheem Hines. And he kind of sort of was already. And Jordan Howard coming back, I'm not sure why. I don't know what they saw in Jordan Howard when he was in Miami that makes them want to put him on the roster. Maybe the roster spot isn't guaranteed. That would probably be the case.
Starting point is 00:37:38 We'll see. It's not going to make me any more nervous to draft Miles Sanders. I still think Sanders is worth a top 30 pick. All right. And then Gio Bernard being released. What kind of impact does this have on Mixon? I think it gives him an opportunity to catch more passes. And he had some games with high reception totals last year before he got hurt. I think that will continue to be the case, but I also think
Starting point is 00:38:05 they really liked what they saw out of Samaj P Ryan. They did not have to cut Giovanni Bernard. They saved like 4 million bucks on the cap and they've got a ton of cap space. So they must have just been at the point where they're like, listen, we like P Ryan. He's as good as Gio. We don't need camp to prove this. We can give geo the chance to latch on with another team. Now let's just let them go now. And I know there was talk about a trade that didn't materialize. And so now he's, he's on the street. I think that P Ryan becomes, I guess, like the, the crappy handcuff to Joe Mixon. If you are in a league where you're so inclined to do that sort of thing with Mixon, uh, P Ryan would be there. Piran was someone I drafted late in our half PPR mock the other day. I think he's worth a very late pick, but I don't think he's going to infringe too much on Joe Mixon. Mixon has a path to getting workhorse type touches, provided he stays healthy.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And I don't know how efficient it'll be. That's dependent on the offensive line in Cincinnati, which they're improving. They're trying to improve. I don't know how much improvement they'll actually make by the time the season starts. I find myself gravitating to Joe Mixon. First of all, he's got a chance for 300 carries. If you get 300 carries, you're basically guaranteed to be a top five running back. I know that sounds crazy, but every running back in the last five seasons with 300 carries has finished top five in both formats. LeGarrette Blount had 299 carries in 2016,
Starting point is 00:39:34 and he was number seven in non-PPR, number nine in PPR. So it's possible to be a 300-carry guy and not finish top five, or at least a 299-carry guy. But other than that, every running back in the last five seasons with 300 carries not finish top five or at least a 299 carry guy but other than that every running back in the last five seasons with 300 carries has finished top five in both formats and if you want to throw half ppr in there all three formats uh so there's that and he was actually on pace
Starting point is 00:39:57 for more than 50 catches last year was on pace for 56 catches and that was with giovanni bernard they had sort of phased geo out of the passing passing game. It seemed before Mixon's injury, Bernard had had 12 of his 16 catches in the first six games that Mixon played. Bernard had 12 catches in the first three games and then four in the last three games. So, yeah, so I don't think that Mixon is like a Derrick Henry or a Nick Chubb. Don't think of him that way. He's probably, I would say he's going to, they're certainly going to catch more passes than Josh Jacobs. Probably than Chris Carson. I mean, I think he's got a chance to for 50 catches. So you could be talking about a guy who's, I'll take Derrick Henry to lead the position and touches, but who's number two.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I mean, it could be mixing really could be, I don't know. So I, he'll be up there and you know that he'll be the short yardage goal line guy for them. And if he can tack on 50 catches as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:55 It's, it all sounds great, but I think a large enough population of us have been burned by Joe Mixon over the past few years that there will be hesitancy to draft him. Last year, we were talking about him as a first-round pick. And so the people that took him as a first-round pick last year, they're going to be the ones who are the most hesitant to go after Joe Mixon, even if it's round two. I think if you're finding him in round three, I think it's a no-brainer. I think if it's late round two, it's worth considering right now.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Let's see what this offensive line looks like. A, after the draft. B, once training camp gets going in Cincinnati. And let's see what Joe Burrow looks like, too, because if Burrow ain't playing, Mixon ain't running very well. Do you know where he went yesterday? Where Joe Mixon went yesterday?
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah, in our mock. I can answer that question in about 12 seconds. Please do. I'll read some more notes while you do that. I've got the answer. Okay, Detroit signed cornerback Quentin Dunbar. Minnesota starting quarterback Jeff Gladney turned himself into police
Starting point is 00:41:56 after allegedly assaulting a 22-year-old woman. Seattle defensive end Carlos Dunlap said Russell Wilson will be with the team in 2021. John Gruden said Kenyon Drake can run it, catch it, and return it. We'll come back to that one. Carolina signed cornerback A.J. Boye. He will be suspended for the first two games of the season. His career was going way up a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:42:15 He has not been as good since signing a big contract with the Jaguars. Then the Bears have discussed trading wide receiver Anthony Miller, according to Ian Rappaport. So we'll come back to Kenyon Drake. There's a rumor going around that Miller will go with a draft pick to Baltimore for Orlando Brown Jr. Oh, wow. That would be interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:31 That would be interesting to add Miller, put him in the slot in Baltimore. I mean, I don't think it'd be great for his fantasy numbers. I think it'd be more interesting for the Bears to get Orlando Brown. Oh, sure, to get a tackle. Right, yeah. Okay, so the over-under on Mixon's draft position
Starting point is 00:42:45 in our half-point PPR is 24.5. Did he go before 24.5 or after 24.5, Adam? I'm going to say he was a late second-round pick. I'm going to say under 24.5. You would be correct. Yeah! Let's go. He went 21st to Jamie.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Okay. Ahead of Cam Akers, which I think I disagree with. Pretty sure I disagree with that one. Ahead of Antonio Gibson. I'm pretty sure I'm going to disagree with that one too. Ahead of DeAndre Swift. In full PPR, I would definitely disagree with that. Yeah, I think he's a, for now, he's a really good third round pick.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I think Jamie may have reached a little for Joe Mixon. Okay. And what do you think about the John Gruden who is really becoming kind of like a Pete Carroll where he just speaks with so much praise about his players so often and you kind of have to take it with a grain of salt. But he said Kenyon Drake can run it, catch it and return it. I mean, technically that's true. And if he's using him for all three of those roles, then I understand why they decided to pay him what they paid him. I think Drake does have, I don't want to say it's untapped potential because we've seen it from him where he does catch the football out of the backfield.
Starting point is 00:43:59 If he's going to be in that type of a role with Vegas to be the passing downs guy to Josh Jacobs, then great. But last year, he didn't really hang on to that role very much with Arizona. I think he had like one or two games in the second half of the season where he had good reception totals, but was otherwise kind of morphed into a north-south runner. And he did okay with that. He scored a bunch of touchdowns. So I wonder just how he'll assimilate into this offense. I think he'll be
Starting point is 00:44:28 maybe right around 10 touches a week. That means that Jacobs will be right around 15 touches per week. We're going to curse and throw stuff at the TV when we see Drake steal a touchdown from Jacobs or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I think Drake is going to be decent fantasy running back bench material for pretty much the entire season unless something happens to Jacobs. By the way, right now on CBSSports.com slash fantasy, Chris Towers has written an article about Joe Mixon. Can Giovanni Bernard's release push Joe Mixon to the top tier at running back in 2021? So check that out. And it's time for fill in the blank. Thank you to all
Starting point is 00:45:12 of you on Twitter for participating in this. I'm filling this, Adam. You ready? Oh, you're filling. Okay, that's good. Feeling, filling. Yeah, sorry. I just completely drew a blank there. Fantasy, bro. I will puke blank times a week when Taysom Hill comes in for Jabez Winston. Probably just like the first time for sure.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And then probably at least one more time when Taysom Hill's in in the red zone and inexplicably throws a touchdown to like the third string tight end and costs everybody a chance at six points, especially Camara fantasy manager. I'm going to say twice a week, but I would imagine he'll play
Starting point is 00:45:52 upwards of eight to 12 snaps per game. I bet he sees a little bit more per game than he did with Drew Brees. I'm like Seinfeld. I have an iron stomach. I never do what Fantasy Bro just suggested.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Well, good for you. I can't remember the last time that happened. All right, from Colin Williams. I just want everybody to know that. Colin Williams, there will be blank rookie wide receivers who finish in the top 24. Will there even be one? I will say that one gets in there.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Jamar Chase will get in there. Justin Jefferson did last year. Did anyone else? I don't think so. Where did Lamb finish? He was outside of it, I believe. Oh, no, he was not. He was 21st in non-PPR and 24th in PPR.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Was he? He was not per game. He was outside the top 30 per game. I got him 26th in PPR. I got him 24th. Outside of the top 24. How much separation between him at 26 and whoever you have at 24? Who do I have at 24?
Starting point is 00:47:07 I can't find who I have. I know who I've have at 24. Who do I have at 24? I can't find who I have. I know who I've got at 23. I've got DJ Moore at 23. He is at 13.67 PPR points per game. Yeah, but I'm talking total fantasy points, not per game here. Okay. He was at 200 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And DJ Moo was at, sorry for being so slow here 205 so five points away from being 23rd okay all right well depends where you look but cd lamb was very close and justin jefferson easily was 24th in ppr with 203 so he was three points away from Beasley and five points away from DJ Moo. I have him with one more. Oh no. Yeah. It's so funny how this gets calculated. I have him with nine more fantasy points than Beasley. Are you doing a decimal score? No, I've got the actual full point PPR scoring on a week to week basis, non-decimal. So frustrating. You do your own, right?
Starting point is 00:48:09 Well, I mean, this is what they scored in a PPR league. On a week-to-week basis, you take what they got in each week, you add it together at the end. That's how many fantasy points they scored. I'm not taking their year-to-date totals, dividing their yardage by 10, and then multiplying their touchdowns by 6, and then adding in how
Starting point is 00:48:30 many catches they have. That's not the right way to do it. That should come up with the same number, and then you subtract from this. No, it absolutely shouldn't because there are games where CeeDee Lamb gets 99 yards. That's only 9 points. Then you're not doing decimal scoring. You're right. I'm not doing decimal scoring. Okay, well, I am doing
Starting point is 00:48:45 decimal scoring, so that's why CeeDee Lamb could be is 24. Okay, so yeah. Well, mystery solved. Yeah, and when decimal scoring becomes the norm, A, we're going to throw a party,
Starting point is 00:48:58 and B, my residual. It is totally the norm. I don't know if it is. I don't know. We could look that up and see how many leagues on CBS use decimal scoring. People can also write us on Twitter. I don't use decimal.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Dave Richard. Go ahead. I don't use decimal. Do a Twitter poll. All right, I will. Yeah, do a Twitter poll. All right, from Darth Brady. Big news, everybody.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I have started watching the entire Star Wars series. We are halfway through, not quite, episode four. So I'll have a report for you in about six months when we finish. Darth Brady. By August,
Starting point is 00:49:35 DK Metcalf's ADP will be blank. Maybe wide receiver 10. Maybe the ADP of like 27, 28, somewhere in that range. He'll be popular, there's no doubt. You don't think second round? You think third round? I think he could get into the second round in some drafts.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I think it depends on the draft. Okay. From Al Williams, there will be blank players taken in the first round in average draft position that are not running backs. Blank non-running backs in the first round. Three. And they are?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Adams, Hill, Kelsey. He thinks Mahomes will be a first round pick. No, I don't think so. I don't think there's going to be a first round quarterback in ADP this year. From Daniel Haas, the team with the most players this is fun. The team with the most players to finish top 20 at their position
Starting point is 00:50:26 in the 2021 season will be blank. I mean, Kansas City is the safest bet. Mahomes, Edwards-Hilaire, Hill. They're not, though. Top 20 is such a low bar for quarterback and tight end. So I'm going to go with Dallas. I think they'll have five. I think they'll have two receivers. Dak, Zeke, two receivers, and then you think one of the... Yeah, top 20.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Top 20, yeah. I think so. I think if it's top 20 at tight end, then yeah. Blake Jarwin can be a top 20 tight end. The question is, will Dallas have two top 20 at tight end, then yeah. Blake Jarwin can be a top 20 tight end. The question is, will Dallas have two top 20 wide receivers? That won't be easy, but it will be doable. That would certainly put them ahead of Kansas City. Look, it could definitely be the Rams. Basically, for this conversation, you...
Starting point is 00:51:19 It could be the Falcons. You need two wide receivers. It could definitely be the Falcons. Because it's not hard to have a top 20 quarterback or tight end. All right, from Reid. Blank, blank, or blank would be the absolute best landing spot for any rookie running back.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Blank, blank, or blank. I think Atlanta is at the top of the list. I think Pittsburgh would be right behind them. And then... I was going right behind them. And then... I was going to say them. The Dolphins would be third. I'm just not sure.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I'm not convinced that the Dolphins are definitely going to get a running back in the draft. Like, I wonder if they're pretty happy with what they got out of Myles Gaskin last year. And this is, you know, Patriots thinking coaching staff. They tend to undervalue the running back position. They might want to address other positions before they go cannonballing into the running back pool. Ryan Wessner, long running super flex dynasty draft
Starting point is 00:52:14 should expect blank number of quarterbacks to be selected in the top five. Again, long running super flex dynasty draft should expect blank number of quarterbacks to be selected in the top five. Two to three. And Danny Perez, Najee Harris would have to be drafted by blank
Starting point is 00:52:36 to be a top 10 running back. To be a top 10 running back? Yeah. Would he be a top 10 running back in fantasy? Would he be a first-round pick in fantasy if he went to Atlanta? Yeah. Would he be a top 10 running back in fantasy? Would he be a first round pick in fantasy if he went to Atlanta? No, I don't think I'd put him there, but I think he'd be like off the top
Starting point is 00:52:54 of my head, like top 18. I think he'd be a second round pick. I think people would get excited about Harris. If all they have in Atlanta is Najee Harris and Mike Davis, I think people would be pretty excited about that. I think they'd go after him by round two. And would you take him or Mixon?
Starting point is 00:53:10 I would take him over Mixon. Would you take Najee Harris on the Falcons or can makers on the Rams? Ooh, I think if it's really just, if it's really just him and Mike Davis, and I'm really thinking that Mike Davis isn't going to be that big of a problem, then I think I would take him over Cam Akers. And I think I might have Akers in my top 12 for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Ooh, now you got me thinking. That's going to be one that's going to be tough to break down. But I think that that's the spot where a rookie running back can come in start right away and get a good workload right away in an offense that's going to be hard for defenses to clamp down on the run i mean how can the safeties play up when you've got julio here calvin there russell gage in the slot oh man can't forget about Gage. Well, let's take a quick look at the Major League Baseball standings. The White Sox are three and four?
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Starting point is 00:54:41 is a great show which you should be listening to. Time for your Apple Podcast questions to finish off this week of podcasting. This is from BigCurt19. 12-team full PPR league. I need one keeper for next season. Jonathan Taylor for a third-round pick. Calvin Ridley for a fourth-round pick. Dobbins in the seventh. Akers or Justin Jefferson in the ninth. Full PPR. Taylor in the third, Ridley in the fourth, Dobbins in the seventh Akers or Justin Jefferson in the ninth full
Starting point is 00:55:06 PPR Taylor in the third Ridley in the fourth Dobbins in the seventh Akers or Jefferson in the ninth if you're not sold on Taylor being the next great fantasy running back then I think it's got to be Akers Oh Jefferson now it's rather to have a Jefferson's great
Starting point is 00:55:22 all these guys are great but I think getting Akers of Jefferson, full PPR. Yeah, I get where you're coming from with that. Would you draft Jefferson ahead of acres in a full PPR? I guess I don't think I would. No. I don't think I would either. And it's not a sled on Jefferson at all.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah. No, you're right. I would draft acres. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm taking acres overerson then with the ninth round value certainly going to take that ahead of dobbins who's going earlier yeah certainly going to take that ahead of ridley i would take acres ahead of ridley and so really like if you're over the moon in love with jonathan taylor and you're like me you're not phased by the marlon mackery. Yeah, you take Taylor in the third, but ninth round on Cam Akers is really, really hard to pass up.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Joey from Germany. Hey, Jerry, George, Cosmo, and Elaine. Hey, speaking of Seinfeld. There you go. 10-team, one QB, PPR league. I can keep two. Kamara in the first round. Devante Adams in the second.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Dobbins in the sixth, Justin Jefferson in the eighth. Maybe now we can take Justin Jefferson. We're taking Justin Jefferson. Yeah. Kyler Murray in the 11th. Murray can only be kept for one more season. The rest are eligible for two more years.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And he has the eighth pick. So let's say we're going to keep Jefferson in the eighth round. Pick one more. Kamara in the first, Adams in the second, Dobbins in the sixth, Kyler in the eighth round. Pick one more. Kamara in the first, Adams in the second, Dobbins in the sixth, Kyler in the eleventh. I'm kind of tempted to keep Dobbins
Starting point is 00:56:50 because you can get him for two more rounds or two more years at that round. But intentionally, if you're picking eighth, you probably don't have a shot at getting Alvin Kamara again. It's a PPR league. I think Kamara can be really good again, even without Drew Brees,
Starting point is 00:57:05 a quarterback. I think, I think I would lean toward Camara, just getting the superstar with your first round pick that you wouldn't be able to get otherwise. So Camara and Jefferson would be who I'd take. Jake from Washington. After nine years of running my league,
Starting point is 00:57:24 I'm getting rid of the kicker position and adding a super flex spot. That's the way to make it more fun. Yeah. Can you address how you should approach a draft with a super flex, please? No one has ever played with one before. It's a two-receiver league,
Starting point is 00:57:36 two running backs and a flex, and now a super flex. So, what do you think? If the scoring really favors quarterbacks, people are going to fill that spot with a quarterback, and that'll push up quarterbacks in the draft it'll make you want to go and select a quarterback a lot earlier than you might initially intend this is the type of draft where you will see patrick mcholmes go in the first patrick ma yeah i didn't say patrick mcholmes patrick mcholmes in the first round josh allen second round you know all the top
Starting point is 00:58:02 i think you're getting four quarterbacks in the first round you might it really comes down to how people feel about it depends what the scoring is you're right alan will probably be a first round pick too um let me see our latest super flex draft right but if you're comfortable with the depth of the position you might opt to only take one quarterback early or no quarterbacks early. And then you can go back to back with quarterbacks and say rounds five and six, and you'll get okay starters, but you'll also have good players to other positions. Yeah. It's just like any other league, Adam, like what the scoring system is, is very important.
Starting point is 00:58:38 It's just something that you've got to know before you go in. The more that it favors quarterbacks in a super flex, the more likely people are going to use that spot to get a second quarterback and uh if if everybody and maybe you adjust to this when you're drafting if everybody's going to go and chase quarterbacks in the first couple of rounds you'll probably have to jump in that talent pool too and some good players will fall to you later on the only super flex draft that we've done recently was a dynasty startup mock draft uh mcafree one cook two mahomes alan murray jackson watson were the next five picks and then dac prescott justin herbert the members of dynasty they were also in the first round so you had seven quarterbacks taken in the first round that's a dynasty startup so i think maybe a little bit more in a dynasty league quarterbacks you have such
Starting point is 00:59:24 longevity but i would i would expect probably four or five in the first round in a dynasty league quarterbacks you have such longevity but i would i would expect probably four or five in the first round in a super flex league with experienced people now if you're it's a completely new group never done super flex before maybe right different trends but i would say that you can't be afraid to go with the trends and you should try to say to yourself i need one of the top blank quarterbacks I need one of the top blank quarterbacks. I want two of the top blank quarterbacks. And if you have to pass up better players at other positions that you would ordinarily never do that, you have to take that plunge. You have to do that. You cannot be weak at quarterback because there's nothing on the waiver wire. There's also the
Starting point is 00:59:59 question of how many managers are in the league. If's an eight team league a 10 team league then i don't think the pressure will be there quite as bad to take a great second quarterback but if it's if it's a 12 team league then yeah maybe you will see teams right load up at least one stud quarterback early yeah so i am in a 10 team there's literally an argument for going anyway you could start your draft quarterback quarterback feel great about having two stud quarterbacks on your super flex team. And then you just try and find your way at the other positions throughout the draft. And then off the waiver wire, there's passing on the position completely loading up at all the other positions and then finding quarterbacks. Like I said, rounds five, round six, maybe even later than that. Or you can go, you know, the happy medium, which is you take a quarterback in round one or round two,
Starting point is 01:00:43 and then you wait till around five, six, seven to get your second and maybe your third quarterback. There's no wrong way to do it. You just have to get quarterbacks that you're most comfortable with, that values you're okay with. Yeah, I'm in a 10-team Superflex League, a league I share with Heath every year,
Starting point is 01:00:57 one of the podcast leagues, and there are quarterbacks on the waiver wire. They're usually guys like Jimmy Garoppolo and maybe like a Baker Mayfield or something like that, but players you can plug in if you need to. Okay. Let's move on, Dave. Let's, let's try to go a little faster here. Casey CP 24. Um, which two players would you keep 12 team full PPR? They would be my first and second round picks. Michael Thomas, Terry McLaurin, Miles Sanders, Antonio Gibson. I have to keep two? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:31 If I have to keep two of these guys, I will probably lean toward the running back, Sanders and Gibson. From Revito, this is not a question, this is just a cool comment. This was the first podcast I ever listened to back in 2011.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I have won plenty of championships across a few leagues. I've picked up and dropped other podcasts over the last 10 years, but this is one where I don't think I've missed an episode. How cool is that? First podcast you ever listened to. Thank you, Revito. We appreciate it. From WakeUp23, I'm going to add
Starting point is 01:02:03 Team QB to one of my more competitive leagues all are on board with the move just curious if you guys have played in leagues that are team qb either way um do you have any thoughts and dave i've never played in a team a team qb league we've got this very deep office league it's usually got anywhere between 20 and 30 teams and we use team QB for that. I think it's fine. I think it changes the dynamic a little bit, especially when you look at a team like New Orleans
Starting point is 01:02:31 that theoretically will use multiple quarterbacks in the same game. It makes them a little bit more valuable. A lot more. How much more valuable? Are they a top five? They're probably closer to a top 10 team qb than they would be separate like we're not taking winston or hill as top 15 quarterbacks right now because one will take away numbers from the other unless you know the saints decide to go with one guy all the time end of story
Starting point is 01:02:59 um so they'll be popular because you don't have to worry about who the quarterback is you're just taking it on the team. I'm wondering if that's ever going to happen to running backs where we just get to a point where we're drafting team running back. Oh no, that would suck up the drafts. Your drafts aren't going to be nearly as deep if that happens, but then you don't have to worry about, oh, I got to get the backup for this guy. Or, you know, this team's going to use three running backs from week to week.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I'm not going to touch that team's running backs. Well, now suddenly if you've got team RBs, you've got to... Awful. Don't even put it out there, Dave. Well, but that's fine. And trust me, I don't think I would like it that way either. A lot of the fun of fantasy is to go and have the backup running back. But the team quarterback is kind of the same concept. Well, I think the team quarterback is guarding against quarterback gets hurt in the middle of a game. And that could obviously happen with a running back, too.
Starting point is 01:03:51 But for some reason, it just feels different with a quarterback. People hate that. It's the highest scoring position. So it's guarding against the injury. But it's also, you know, team drafts a rookie. And you take the San Francisco team quarterback or something like that. There's that aspect of it too. Alright, from Core2186.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Who has more value in PPR with Sam Darnold? DJ Moore or Robbie Anderson? Probably still DJ Moore. I would draft him first ahead of Anderson. And finally from Alf878. Hey, Ted, yeah. Ted, Carl, Jim, and Greeny.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Standard League Draft. After last season, I'm starting to think Dalvin Cook, Derek Henry, and Jonathan Taylor are better first-round picks than Kamara, Barkley, Adams, and Kelsey in our old-fashioned
Starting point is 01:04:43 standard scoring league. Am I crazy to like all of them in the top five? Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, and Jonathan Taylor over Kamara, Barkley, Adams, and Kelsey? Well, in my standard running back rankings, I've got Henry third, Kamara fourth, Taylor fifth, Barkley sixth. So I've kind of got a mesh of what he's going with, but I see where he's coming from.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Henry, I think, has absolutely earned it. I think Cook has earned it too. And Jonathan Taylor has worlds of potential to be the next great workhorse running back in fantasy. Whereas with Kamara, if those catches don't count and they might go down anyway because Drew Brees isn't there, that's a problem. You've got to hope for him to replicate the type of year
Starting point is 01:05:24 that he just came off of. Saquon, there's the huge question about whether or not he stays healthy. So yeah, there's definitely some reason to believe that he's onto something. I just don't believe Barkley belongs in the same conversation because Kamara is like a 210 carry running back
Starting point is 01:05:40 in 16 games, maybe 220. Barkley could push 300. He's also involved in the passing game, but he's not to the degree that Kamara is. If you want to put him, if you want to say, I want to take these guys ahead of Barkley because of injury concerns
Starting point is 01:05:53 or offensive line concerns, that I understand. But he is a workhorse. I mean, he's going to get a ton of carries. Provided that he stays healthy, yes. 100%. And then when it comes to Adams and Kelsey, if their catches don't count,
Starting point is 01:06:05 I think their value kind of falls into round two in a non PPR. Well, that's it everybody. Thanks a lot to Emory hunt for joining us. And for all of your Apple podcast questions, keep sending your emails to fantasy football at cbsi.com. Have a great weekend, Dave.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You too, Adam. All right. It's going to be a star Wars weekend, star Wars weekend, everybody looking forward to it. May the force be with you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Thank you very much. We will talk to you on Monday with another episode of Fantasy Football Today.

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