Fantasy Football Today - QB Reflections and DFS Picks for Divisional Round (01/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: January 14, 2021

We start with the one player that Dave and Jamey are putting in all of their DFS lineups for the Divisional Round (0:52) … News and notes (2:30) as Ronald Jones and Cooper Kupp missed practice, CEH ...may play and Jacksonville is close to hiring Urban Meyer … Reflecting on the state of the quarterback position (8:17). Is it worth drafting a QB that doesn’t run? What 2020 performance was a fluke? Who is set to break out in 2021 (29:48)? … Divisional round matchup previews (35:25) with DFS picks for each game, including chalk plays and sleepers … And we finish with your Apple Podcast questions (48:17). 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @CTowersCBS, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. We're going to look ahead to the quarterback position by looking back at the quarterback position here on Fantasy Football today. And of course, we'll get into the divisional playoff matchups, the best weekend of the year,
Starting point is 00:01:34 because these are the best playoff games, usually season after season or postseason after postseason. I'm Dave Richard. Jamie Eisenberg's with me. Welcome into the show. Who's a player, Jamie, that you can't wait to put into your DFS lineups this weekend? There's a lot. I think J.K. Dobbins is something I'm going to have a lot of in my lineups. I like the setup for him taking on the Bills.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Their run defense has been sort of their weakness all season. We saw Jonathan Taylor and Naeem Hines run well against them last week. So I think Dobbins has an opportunity here to play well. I like that call. He's in my lineups as well. I'm going to look at the Browns and the Chiefs game. I think that could end up being a sneaky high scoring game. I'm not a big believer in either defense. Tyreek Hill is going to be an easy one for me just to put in the lineups and expect a big game from, except i did check how many games this year did he have 100 receiving yards or more do you know the answer to that one jamie i don't it's three only three times this year he had a lot of touchdowns and toward the
Starting point is 00:02:34 end of the year he was rolling but it was travis kelsey was racking up huge numbers maybe i should be leaning toward kelsey instead of hill but hill is going to be in a lot of my lamps because even with denzel ward back i don't think the brown secondary is going to do a whole heck of a lot. All right. Yeah. That won't be a sneaky high game, high scoring game, Dave.
Starting point is 00:02:49 That's the highest scoring. Right. The total is the highest. What is the, what's do you have the latest total in front of you? 54. Okay. So I think they could probably,
Starting point is 00:02:58 do I think the Browns can get to 30 points? Maybe. And I think the chiefs can get to right around 32, 33. The last time the Chiefs scored 33 points and lost was back in November of 2018 against the Rams. You remember that game against the Rams. It was awesome. So we'll see how that goes. All right. This episode sponsored by Express. Express is all new and all about you with a fresh assortment of casual, versatile, and super comfortable styles. You can find out more about Express and their exclusive offer later in the show.
Starting point is 00:03:30 All right, before we get into the quarterbacks, before we get into the divisional playoffs, some news and some notes. And let's start with Tampa Bay and their running backs. Ronald Jones did not practice on Wednesday, but Bruce Arians expects him on Thursday. LaShawn McCoy with an illness back at practice. If Rojo practices, what's your interest level in putting him in your DFS lineups?
Starting point is 00:03:50 I would avoid that backfield altogether. I just think it'll be a little bit messy. You know, Fournette coming off what Bruce Arians said was his best game of the season. He obviously deserves work. It's a tough matchup to begin with. So if there's one guy getting the featured workload like we saw last week, I'm all in on Fournette.
Starting point is 00:04:06 If they're both there, I'm out on both. I get what you're saying. I'm not sure if it's as tough of a matchup as it was, say, six weeks ago. They've allowed a touchdown, at least one to a running back in four of their past five. In those past five games, six total touchdowns, 4.8 yards per carry. But I agree with you. If it's going to be a mess with Fournette taking work away from Rojo and then Sean McCoy is in there on certain passing situations, I think you're taking a
Starting point is 00:04:29 risk using either one of those guys. Let's move to the Kansas City backfield. Clyde Edwards-Hilaire listed as limited in practice. The Browns have allowed just one rushing touchdown to a running back over their last four games. It was James Conner with his touchdown in the first half last week. What about Edwards-Hilaire? Is that a sneaky sneaky play we just talked about the total in that game maybe there's a chance for him to find the end zone yeah i'm out on him too i think it's uh you know a guy that's
Starting point is 00:04:53 coming back off a significant injury that hasn't played now and will be a month after missing the final two games of the regular season in the week off so um i actually have a lot of Daryl Williams in my lineups. You know, the price is great. As we saw in week 16, the first game without Edwards-O'Leary, the first, the last game that they played their guys, the majority of the game, he was the lead running back there. And I think in a game where it could be high scoring and they're throwing the ball, Daryl Williams is better than Le'Veon Bell. And I don't think Edwards-O'Leary is going to play very much. Sammy Watkins also did not practice on Wednesday. I'm not sure he's going to end up playing.
Starting point is 00:05:28 If Tyree Kill is going to be an obvious call by me to get into DFS lineups, who's the Chiefs receiver who isn't as obvious? It'll be Watkins. I think he better play after running his mouth last week. He replied to a tweet that Baker Mayfield was asked about in regards to playing the Browns. And I guess somebody tweeted at him, looks like some tough competition.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And he replied back, are you sure? And Baker was asked about that. So I'm going to guess Watkins is out there. And if he does play, then he'll be the second best option. Another guy who thinks the Browns are the Browns. Okay, Cooper Cup didn't practice on Tuesday and Wednesday, but the athletics Jordan Roderick says he's expected to play. Stephon Diggs, Cole Beasley, they were limited in practice on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Diggs with the oblique, Beasley with the knee. Beasley didn't look quite at 100% last week against Indianapolis, but I think they'll both play. Latavius Murray is day-to-day with a quad. He should be good to go. Traquan Smith back for New Orleans, so maybe all that Deontay Harris love that we saw last week is going to go to Traquan Smith back for New Orleans. So maybe all that Deontay Harris love that we saw last week is going to go to Traquan or maybe they split it. And then there's this, Jamie,
Starting point is 00:06:30 and I know you've got an interest in this. Jacksonville could hire Urban Meyer as early as today to be their next head coach. Now, I know you're familiar with Urban. He did some really good things at Florida once upon a time. What do you think this does for the Jaguars and their future? Well, I think hiring the coordinator is going to be the most important thing, because as we've kind of seen from Urban toward the tail end of his Florida tenure and obviously at Ohio State, his coordinators played a big role. You know, he was as much a figurehead as he was the head coach, which is not a big surprise in college football.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But, you know, it's a little bit more hands-on in the NFL. NFL and you know, what's he going to do to be the guy in charge of Trevor Lawrence in this offense is something that we're going to have to keep an eye on. So you're hearing some things about maybe them bringing in Clemson's offense coordinator, you know, maybe bringing in, uh, you know, somebody a little bit more experienced could be the other side of it. Um, that that's going to be the key for me, but I don't really love this hire. You know, I just think that, uh, you're getting a name as opposed to getting somebody who can be there, make this a winning organization. You know, Urban's track record lately has been, you know, get in,
Starting point is 00:07:34 get your wins, maybe get a title and leave. And health has been an issue for him as well. Hopefully he's 100% ready to go. But I don't love this particular hire with Urban Meyer. Kind of implement that spread style offense that we saw him develop. And I know that he wasn't the main guy behind it toward the end of his career, like you said,
Starting point is 00:07:50 but I think that that would be perfect for Trevor Lawrence because he ran something like that at Clemson. So anything that makes Trevor Lawrence comfortable, I'm all for, this would be it. There's a new general manager in Denver. It's George Payton and Giants left tackle. Andrew Thomas had ankle surgery. He should be okay for training camp.
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Starting point is 00:09:15 It's not complicated and you'll feel comfortable shopping on express.com. Let's talk quarterbacks. 2020 was incredible. Here's a stat just to lead us off on this, Jamie. In 2018, the top 12 talk quarterbacks 2020 was incredible here's here's a stat just to lead us off on this jamie in 2018 the top 12 fantasy quarterbacks averaged 23.4 points per game that's a lot it was the most in a long time in 2019 it dipped to 21.6 this year 2020 the year that just finished up the top 12 average for quarterbacks and fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:09:45 This is six points for passing touchdowns. 25.3 points per game. Highest I can ever remember it being. Ridiculous amount of points. I attribute a lot of it to rushing. And the fact that these quarterbacks, a lot of them that are in the top 12, they did a lot of rushing. That's stats on top of stats. We've been talking about that for years.
Starting point is 00:10:06 You're probably not surprised that it's 25.3 points, are you? No, especially with what we saw at the start of the season where they weren't calling as many holding calls. You know, the numbers were certainly a little bit more significant in the early part of the season than they were as the season tailed on. You know, I mean, weather obviously plays a part in that as well. But I think the way that the NFL sort of approached this year with the pandemic, with everything that unfolded, they wanted to make sure that the offensive numbers were high and they didn't
Starting point is 00:10:30 call as many of those holding calls that we typically see. That changed as the year went on. So let's talk about a couple of quarterbacks who didn't run that much and still finish strong in fantasy, including Aaron Rodgers. He was QB1. He was drafted as the 11th quarterback current average draft position, average draft position, excuse me, only three quarter or three games all year where he didn't have 27 or more fantasy points. That's again, in six points for
Starting point is 00:10:57 passing touchdowns, he threw 48 touchdowns. He ran for three touchdowns. I will talk about Aaron Rodgers and some concerns I have a little bit later on, but I do want to give him credit for definitely an MVP-type season. He was outstanding. Nobody gave him credit for him to be able to put together a season quite like this. The touchdowns were amazing. The fact that he did it without an addition to his receiving core was equally amazing. And the fact that Aaron Jones was still very good
Starting point is 00:11:25 and Aaron Rodgers was off the charts, also amazing. So applause all around. Where do you have Rodgers' rank going into 2020, Jame? He's just outside top five. I think it's another opportunity for him to still play at a high level. I'm curious to see what they're going to do this offseason to enhance their receiving core if they do. But if they don't, as long as the Monte Adams stays healthy, I do think
Starting point is 00:11:47 that we're going to see Aaron Jones move on. So I don't know. So you necessarily have to worry about what those rushing touchdowns that he lost in 2019 that he got back in 2020 in terms of Aaron Rogers, you know, that, that was the biggest difference really was the touchdown total, because what he, the way he played in 2019 was not significantly far off. I mean, you know, he had 200 more passing yards, essentially 300 more passing yards, essentially, but it was 26 touchdowns compared to 48, you know? And so somewhere in the middle, I think is where he'll settle. Um, obviously AJ Dillon looks like he could be a significant contributor in the backfield and take on some of those rushing numbers. But I think, you know, with what Rogers, uh, looks like in this offense right now, he feels very
Starting point is 00:12:24 comfortable offensive line should be really good once again. So, uh, there's a lot to like about But I think with what Rodgers looks like in this offense right now, he feels very comfortable. Offensive line should be really good once again. So there's a lot to like about him coming back next year. There's been an interesting trend that we've seen recently where the number one fantasy quarterback the year before a draft becomes the number one in ADP or maybe number two in ADP. And I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think it's going to be even close in 2021 drafts. Remember Lamar Jackson, late round pick quarterback, won the MVP.
Starting point is 00:12:53 A lot of people were taking him in round one. I know we weren't, we weren't recommending that, but a lot of people did. His ADP was very high. Mahomes. He actually wasn't the first quarterback drafted though. It was still Mahomes. It was still Mahomes. How close were they? Do you know that off the top of your head? No, but I can tell you right now. It's easy. Okay. But I know that they were definitely popular and people reached for him. And I'm not sure if I've gotten any sense that people are willing to reach for Aaron Rodgers the year after his MVP campaign. So I think more people are aware of, or maybe it's just the fact that he's not young
Starting point is 00:13:28 and people recognize that 48 touchdowns are really hard to replicate. He can still be really good in 2021, but not number one quarterback good. So maybe it's the fantasy universe wisening up to the position, or maybe it's just everybody realizing that Aaron Rodgers just shouldn't be expected to do. I mean, we don't we don't have enough data yet to know how they're going to get drafted. So, I mean, we've done two drafts. It's a very poor indication of our drafts and how Rodgers will get selected because
Starting point is 00:13:55 there are smart people in those leagues that are going to do exactly what you said, which are going to look at it and say he's not going to replicate the season that he had to the same level. And the other quarterbacks that were in within the same range of him have the chance to have maybe a better ceiling in in 2021 because of their youth because of their weapons because of their coach and everything that goes along with what you've seen over the last three to five years uh jackson was the 10th quarterback 10th player off the board second quarterback mahomes was the first quarterback he was taken seventh overall okay so there were like three picks apart in ADP.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yep. We'll wrap on Rodgers with this. Have you heard from even one person who's asked about Rodgers being QB1 in drafts in 2021? No, because nobody's going to draft him that way. But that's the difference. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Outside of Green Bay and probably outside of the last name with Rodgers. He's going to be a very polarizing player because this is a guy that he had a nine-point jump in his fantasy production. He was a 20.1 point scorer in 2019, and he was 29.9 points in 2020. That's not necessarily, I think, a fair indication on either side of what he's going to do in 2021, unless he just has this unbelievable season again. But if I'm the Packers, I'm going to draft a quarterback again to piss him off. And I'm going to say, you know, hey, look, we don't want you anymore. You're washed up. You're done. That MVP was a fluke and make him go out and prove it again. And I think he has a chance to be a great passer because that's what he is. I think that's one thing that we kind of got lost in with the 2020 scenario
Starting point is 00:15:30 was their run game was so great. They added another running back with taking AJ Dillon. He's got the best wide receiver in football. He's got, you know, you said they didn't add anybody to the receiving court and that's correct, but they found another guy and that was Robert Tunyon. You know, and I think that's a big part of it is, you know, they found a piece, you know, and Lazard was kind of the same, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't blowing the doors off, but he wasn't, you know, a guy that you had to overlook and Valdez Gantling had his usual,
Starting point is 00:15:56 you know, big play here every two, three games, but they found another guy that they can, you know, use in the red zone and that he feels comfortable with. And maybe they just find another guy, you know, depending on how they approach the off season. I'm excited to see how he does against this Rams defense this weekend. All right, let's keep it classic with Tom Brady, another old quarterback. And we think he's going to be back in 2021. He was QB seven in six points per passing touchdown leagues.
Starting point is 00:16:18 He was tied for second with most touchdowns in the NFL. He had 40, only a couple away from his age. He also ran for two touchdowns. There they are. Now he's got 42 total touchdowns in the NFL. He had 40, only a couple away from his age. He also ran for two touchdowns. There they are. Now he's got 42 total touchdowns. Where does he stack up? He's outside of my top 10 going into 2021. Yeah, I had a tough time between Joe Burrow and Brady at the 12 spot.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I didn't have him ranked in my top 12. I think you got to see this offseason is going to be really big for the Bucs because if they move on from Chris Godwin and Antonio Brown, uh, and Gronk decides not to come back, then this is going to be a tough quarterback to trust because there'll be, you know, going on 45 and this, you know, it could be his final season or 44, excuse me. Um, but you know, it could be his final season. Uh, we got to see how this year finishes up for him. I think it'll be a great value, uh, based on how he's going to play in this offense, you know, assuming that Bruce Arians and Byron Lefkowitz are back, which seems to be the case, unless Byron Lefkowitz gets
Starting point is 00:17:08 a coaching job. But, you know, Brady Scott, if he has Evans and Godwin and maybe Antonio Brown, that's not really the one that's going to sway it for me so much. But if he loses both, it's more of a tougher sell. But, you know, if he has one of those two guys back with Evans, then I think he's in the conversation to still be a number one quarterback. But again, age, how much that can be a factor. What did they do, you know, rest of the team this offseason, you know. So Brady is a guy that you'll be happy to settle for, but not somebody you want to target.
Starting point is 00:17:38 That's the perfect way to put it. I should say that I have two guys in my top 12 ahead of him, or one guy for sure is Jalen Hurts. Taysom Hill's in the conversation, but it's looking like Jalen Hurts is not going to be the starting quarterback for the Eagles. I've got Hill ahead of him. I've got Burrow ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I've got Justin Herbert ahead of him. I don't know how many of these names are actually surprises or not, but I would expect a letdown year from Brady if, if he plays next year. And if it is his last year, it could be a letdown just based on him being so old, the receiving core not being the same, just doing it all over again. I think that would be tough.
Starting point is 00:18:10 He had a great season. I mean, you can't take it away from him. It's really true. Second most touchdowns he's ever thrown for. And to do it without an offseason, to do it with learning all these guys, with Godwin battling injuries, with Evans battling injuries, not having Brown until the second half of the season. You know, he, he really had a fantastic 2020 campaign. And it pushes the narrative that it was Brady, not Belichick that made things work in new
Starting point is 00:18:35 England. Yeah. Not really surprised by that. So based on all this, would you consider drafting a non-running quarterback in 2021? I'm always going to lean toward the dual threat guys, you know, depending on who we're talking about, which is why, you know, I mentioned Jalen Hurts and Taysom Hill are attractive. You know, you look at what Hill did in the four starts that he made
Starting point is 00:18:55 for Drew Brees, you know, the rushing totals were fantastic. You look at what Jalen Hurts did in his final three starts, you know, four starts if you want to throw them the week 17 game when he ran for two scores. But the first three starts, he had over 63 yards rushing. So those guys give you a certain floor that you can't replicate with these other guys, the way they throw the ball, obviously the Mar Jackson, what we've seen Kyler Murray was at his best when he was running. Um, those guys are difference makers, Josh Allen's a difference maker, you know? So, um, you know, there, there's, there's a lot more to like about those guys. And obviously, you know, you start to see when age factors. And I mean, think about the guys that we're talking about,
Starting point is 00:19:26 Rogers is 37, Brady's 43. Uh, Matt Ryan is not a mobile quarterback. He's, you know, approaching his late or he's in his late thirties. Um, Roethlisberger was still very good throwing the ball. Uh, he's not mobile at all anymore, you know, for what he used to at least give you in the early part of his career a little bit, you know, so you're seeing Russell Wilson run a little bit less now that changed in the second half of the season, but overall the early part of his career a little bit, you know, so you're seeing Russell Wilson run a little bit less now that changed in the second half of the season, but overall the latter part of his career, he's not running as much, you know? So the flip side of that is you chase some of these running quarterbacks, like we did with Cam Newton and it ends up hurting you. You know, now Cam is clearly not the same guy. He's a shell of himself, but typically these running
Starting point is 00:19:59 quarterbacks are going to give you a floor that you can't find anywhere else. And that's why they're so good. Let's talk flukes. We, we started this conversation on the FFT and five podcast that was dropped earlier today. Uh, you picked Justin Herbert as, as your fluke candidate for 2020, he had five rushing touchdowns, a couple hundred yards rushing as well. Go over that again for everybody who might've missed it on FFT and five. Why do you think Justin Herbert's going to be a fluke? It's not something that I'm going to stand pat on. It's just kind of right now of not knowing who the coach is,
Starting point is 00:20:30 not knowing what the off season is going to hold for the chargers, specifically if they lose a guy like Hunter Henry and you look at the numbers and it kind of coincides when Henry got hurt and Austin Eckler came back, you know, from week 12 on, he had three games under 20 fantasy, four games under 20 fantasy points, only two of them over. One of them was week 17. And so did he hit a rookie wall? Did things get tough for him? Did the running game get better? Did he lose, you know, key weapon Keenan Allen missed time down the stretch as well. So, um, I'm still, uh, ranking Justin Herbert as a top 10 quarterback. I'm still going to draft him as a top 10 quarterback. But if there's a guy
Starting point is 00:21:02 that falls in this category for me, uh, of what could be a fluke, it's a guy that, you know, you don't have a lot of track record on. So I hope Herbert's a star once again, and the coach I think will, will certainly matter to what they bring in. And if they replace Hunter Henry or bring back Hunter Henry, but for right now on January 14th, he's the guy that falls in this category for me. And just the guy that you're staying away from in our drafts, unless he falls to a certain point away from it all. I'm just saying right now, just given the nature of what the question was um you know looking at the guys who finished as standout quarterbacks they're not the obvious ones that could fall off because of age or you know situation changing he's the one that falls in this category for me in our ppr mock draft
Starting point is 00:21:38 he went 84th overall last pick of round seven ro Rogers was the pick right before him. Which one is the one that you would take it at the end of round seven, beginning of round eight. Right. Where would you feel comfortable taking Herbert at that point? No, I mean, I'm just not going to take quarterbacks that are personal. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:58 I get it. All right. Why don't I make the case for Aaron Rogers being the fluke of 2020 at quarterback? Because he put up all those huge points. You actually talked about this already. He had 29.1 fantasy points per game in 2020. In 2019, I've got him at 19.9. 2018, 21.8. He wasn't even that great, especially when you consider that the top 12 average is now 25. That's the number that we should be
Starting point is 00:22:23 hoping for and praying for from our fantasy quarterbacks on a week-in, week-out basis. He didn't come close to that in 2018 or 2019. And here's a stat that really stood out to me. In 2020, he had nine games with 30-plus fantasy points. In 2019 and 2018 combined, he had seven. So he didn't hit that ceiling very often in those past two seasons.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And I don't know. I have a hard time buying into him replicating even getting to 38 touchdowns, much less 48 passing touchdowns. So I'm nervous to draft Aaron Rodgers. But when I see him go in round seven after the season he just had, I'm not going to fault anybody
Starting point is 00:23:02 for taking him at that point. But this is to piggyback on what I was saying earlier, I think anybody that spends that Lee ish round pick on Aaron Rogers is making a mistake. I think you're investing too much in a guy who does have a recent track record, two of those past three years of not giving you the fantasy point totals that,
Starting point is 00:23:21 that you might be. I don't know. I don't, I don't think he can be very good doing it. I don't want people to overpay for him. He's out for me as far as a top five round pick. Maybe round six. You could talk me into it. Late round seven like we saw in our drafts. I'm fine with it. Bounce back candidate. It's a quarterback. Jamie, you've got Lamar Jackson as your bounce back candidate. He kind of bounced back during the 2020 season where he didn't start off super hot. And then
Starting point is 00:23:51 like toward the end of the year, it just felt like the Ravens were saying, all right, Lamar, you do you, you do it well. And then I felt like his numbers were better off toward the end of the season. Is that what you saw too? Yeah. I mean, absolutely. You know, the way he finished the season, if you made the fantasy playoffs with him, you're thrilled because he started to play like the guy that you were drafting. If you took him as the 10th overall player or certainly in the first two rounds, but the first 10 games of the season, he was a disaster, only four games over 20 fantasy points. And so, you know, that guy lets you down in a big way. And so which Lamar Jackson are you going to get in 2021, the guy that we're seeing closing the year or the guy that they were,
Starting point is 00:24:23 you know, maybe trying to do some things with and tinker some of the offense with, you know, to make him a little bit more of a, of a pocket passer, uh, to enhance his throwing. Um, you know, the rushing numbers were good. They just weren't the same and the turnovers were a problem. So, uh, Lamar Jackson is still going to be a top five caliber quarterback, maybe number one, as we saw in 2019, but, uh, the way that he performed in 2020 just was not up to the standards of what I think what people were hoping for. And that's why we said, you know, there could be a little bit of a letdown
Starting point is 00:24:49 while you don't chase numbers from the previous season. Well, in this case, chasing those final, you know, five games, including the playoffs, and hopefully he comes back and plays at that level for the entire season. Okay. You've got Lamar Jackson over Aaron Rodgers in your rankings, right? Right now I have Rodgers higher, but that's one that I'll change. So in our PPR draft, Lamar Jackson went two picks ahead of Rodgers in round seven.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Reaction? I mean, there's more upside with Lamar. Again, it's the rushing floor that we saw. And Rodgers, with the season that he had, just comparing MVP to MVP, fantasy-wise, Lamar Jackson 2019 was better. So both guys played their best at this point in their career. we saw and Rogers with the season that he had, you know, just comparing MVP to MVP fantasy wise, Lamar Jackson, 2019 was better. So, you know, both guys play their best at this point in their career. Rogers just showed you what his best is. I don't think he gets better. Lamar Jackson, I think can get better as a fantasy quarterback. And again, you know, the production over the final
Starting point is 00:25:37 five games of the regular season was 29 points or more. That was what Rogers averaged, you know? So I'll take the guy that has that ceiling over the guy that has, I think, the safer floor. Rogers has a safer floor, but Jackson's ceiling is higher. Okay. So they both went in round seven of our PPR mock. That was our very first mock. And maybe there was a market correction right after that, because in our half PPR mock, and it's still, I believe, still six points for passing touchdowns for quarterbacks in both of the drafts. Jackson went in round four. Rogers went in round four. Rodgers went in round nine. Round nine for Rodgers is really good. Round four for Lamar Jackson doesn't necessarily strike me as a bad deal either,
Starting point is 00:26:14 knowing what his upside is. I mean, you're going to see the quarterbacks go closer to that range in most drafts. So round four is probably a safe spot for Jackson, and probably you'll see Rodgers go round five, round six. You would probably rather have Rodgers in round nine than Jackson in round four, right? Yeah, they're going to, you know, like I said, the first rankings that we did,
Starting point is 00:26:35 and I think we've explained this enough with how we went over it, that this was just our initial run and, you know, stuff we did in week 17. And so Rodgers was one spot ahead of Jackson for me. If we were to display our rankings on the site right now, Jackson would be higher. Yeah, I've got Jackson higher for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:52 My bounce back candidate is a guy that wasn't drafted in either of our mocks. He wasn't even on fantasy rosters at the end of the year. And this is me just kind of spitballing ideas, but maybe Carson Wentz can find his way back to a starting job, whether it's in Philadelphia or somewhere else. And it sounds like Philadelphia is realistic now because they fired Doug Peterson and it sounds like owner Jeffrey Lurie wants to try and make things right with Carson Wentz. He kind of intimated that in his press conference this past week. He was terrible in 2020. He got benched. Jalen Hurts came in.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Everybody knows that, but he was quarterback eight in 2019, QB 12 and fantasy points per game in 2019. I think if the, let's just say he stays in Philadelphia, the offensive line is going to be better. They can continue to add to their receiving core. They'll have an offensive system that if they do commit to Wentz, it'll be built around Wentz. If they don't commit to Wentz, but they still keep Wentz, then it'll still be a system that he should be at least solid in. I'm not so sure that we've seen the last of Carson Wentz as a fantasy asset and someone who people might be able to take with one of their last three picks.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yeah, I mean, he has a lot of potential. You just wonder, is he broken? Is he broken physically? Is he broken mentally after everything that's gone on? You know, he hasn't been the same guy since the ACL tear in 2017. He had the back injury in 2018 when he tried to come back. And, you know, obviously, the way the 2020 season unfolded for him mentally is the one you got to worry about. But, you know, was he at odds with Doug Peterson? And is the new coach coming in if they do recommit to Carson Wentz, which is what the tea leaves kind of tell you based on the move to get rid of Doug Peterson? Does the new coach come in and say, I want Wentz to be my guy or do I want Hertz to be my guy? You know, and that's going to depend on who the head coach is. So if Wentz is the starting quarterback in Philadelphia, you still have to worry about one bad game, two bad games, and he's back on the bench because they have a guy that, you know, you've at least seen a little bit now and may have a little bit more juice and more upside. So I don't think many people are going to draft Carson Wentz,
Starting point is 00:28:57 even if he's a starter in one quarterback leagues, but he could be a significant waiver wire ad if things kind of fall in line for him based on how this offseason goes. And there's two ways things could break for him. Obviously, the one that you just mentioned, or he does move on to a different team and it ends up being a good situation. We'll see how that goes. Who's done? Who are you just, you're not going to recommend drafting this guy,
Starting point is 00:29:19 period, end of story at the quarterback position. Ben Roethlisberger obviously is scary. You know, you just look at the way that the season ended and that includes the playoff loss to the Browns where he threw for 500 yards and four touchdowns, but he had four interceptions and just did not play very well overall until it was in this hurry up mode. And I think for the Steelers, you know, the, the MO this off season is fix the run game. That's gotta be a big part of getting back to Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's identity, helping the quarterback, because that was a big part. I think of what, you know, fell on Ben Roethlisberger having to carry the offense too
Starting point is 00:29:53 much for a guy at his age. Now, maybe a full off season of just working as opposed to rehab helps him because he was coming back from the elbow injury. And I don't think that he's completely done as a starting fantasy quarterback throughout the course of a season, but to draft him as one, no, you can't do it anymore. I, I,
Starting point is 00:30:11 I think I agree with that one too. Even if they brought back every single piece of that Steelers offense, as far as the passing game goes and the offensive line is improved. I still don't want to take the chance on that. Maybe like I would take them ahead of Wentz right now as one of my last three picks, something like that. But that's under the circumstance that Juju's still there, Deontay's still there, that the offensive line is a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I went with the low-hanging fruit for my done quarterback is Cam Newton. Five games this year, where he finished as a top 12 fantasy quarterback. He averaged 17 fantasy points per game, had more rushing touchdowns than passing touchdowns, just really did not feel like he was able to deliver after the first couple weeks of the season.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And we don't know where he's going to be playing next year. I think it's pretty easy to say that Cam Newton's not going to be a part of fantasy in 2021. So let's just move on to guys who will and guys who will break out. And you already planted your flag on Joe Burrow. Everybody's going to agree with it. It's an awesome call. He should be fine and ready to go for 2021. For people who might be skeptical, what are they missing on Joe Burrow and why he could still be a very, very good fantasy
Starting point is 00:31:23 quarterback moving forward. Well, I mean, you know, you just look at what you saw in the first 10 games that he was able to play. He got hurt in week 11, or nine games that he was able to play. And you just look at a guy that, again, no offseason, figuring his way out in the NFL, coming off the college pedigree that he showed you at LSU, and just the hope that he's ready to go by the time they get to training camp or, you know, at least as close to full strength as he could potentially be.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And whatever they do to find that third piece, you know, they're going to bring in a third receiver unless they surprise us and bring back A.J. Green. But I don't think that's going to be the case. But, you know, for a guy who learning uh, uh, learning on, on the fly thrust into the position, uh, right away, he was the number six quarterback and passing yards per game at two 68.8 yards, uh, passing, you know, and the guys that went ahead or were better than him, Mahomes, Watson, Brady, Herbert, Ryan, and Alan. And I think burrow for, you Burrow, for the way that I think the drafts will go and the way that it kind of went for our two mock drafts that we've done,
Starting point is 00:32:29 if you just want to use that as a small sample size, is people are going to shy away from him for the standpoint of the injury probably the biggest concern, but also which guy are you getting? Because he was a little erratic, obviously, 13 touchdowns, five interceptions, but he showed you some of the big ceiling games, um, you know, two of them against the Browns. But I think, you know, the, the receiving core is going to be good.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Uh, could be great with whoever the third guy is, but you know, T Higgins and Tyler Boyd are certainly a good starting point. Uh, getting another piece of the offensive line is going to be big. I think that's what they do in the draft. And then we'll see just how he comes back from his, uh, from his rehab. But, uh, for a guy that you can get as can get as the 10th quarterback off the board or later, because I kind of think that's where he'll end up going, there's so much upside and so much potential.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I agree 100%. I think he's got all kinds of upside. And the rushing numbers that he had weren't bad either. His 16-game pace put him really close to what Justin Herbert had, five touchdowns. He scored three touchdowns on the ground, but his pace was five. His, his pace was a little bit more than 200 rushing yards. Maybe he does a little bit better than that. Jamie, you got him in round 11 in our first PPR draft.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And I was jealous of the pick. I thought that that was an outstanding choice and he was your starter, right? Yeah. I mean, you know, I, I, I looked at it that, uh, you know, our, our, it's a mock draft for one to our leagues, the, the, the analyst leagues that we do. Uh, we don't see a lot of, uh, the managers taking two quarterbacks. So, you know, was it worth my time to draft Kirk cousins or Matt Ryan or Matthew Stafford or one of these guys to, to just put them on my roster? No. If they were playing this out, I might've done that just to, you know, secure clearly,
Starting point is 00:34:03 uh, a quarterback knowing that Burrow coming off the injury. And I hate drafting this early in the year because there are so many players that we're taking late that just aren't going to end up mattering. So I did take Burrow as my second quarterback in our second draft and I did it in round 10. I don't think I would probably do that when I'm taking Deshaun Watson earlier in drafts, which is what I did in our half PPR. But I think we just have to drive the point home that he is a back half of the draft potential league winner. I'm in love with the talent.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I think he's going to be great. To me, the breakout list for quarterbacks in 2021 is going to be real easy. It's going to be a lot of the guys that are second year players. Tua is going to be on a lot of lists, for example. Jalen Hurts could be on the list. I went with Sam Darnold for the simple reason that he's not being coached by Adam Gase anymore. And we know that he's got some good talent.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I don't have stats to back up Sam Darnold as an effective quarterback and someone who's suddenly going to turn around in fantasy. But the basics in New York are that their offensive line got better toward the end of the year. They'll continue to improve it. Hopefully they hire a head coach who can be someone that can work with Darnold or they trade Darnold. He goes to another team and he ends up falling into a spot where he can work with a great coach there and the offensive line is good there. So hopefully he's not
Starting point is 00:35:21 in that damaged goods category that you put Carson Wentz in and he can end up being somebody that I don't think anybody's going to draft Sam Darnold in a one quarterback league, but off the waiver wire, maybe he does have a chance to do something. It's going to be an interesting off season for him for sure. Yeah. San Francisco has a potential destination. You know, that's something you've heard a little bit. I mean, the Jets could keep him, you know, it's a, wouldn't be that drastic of a surprise, you know, surprise if they're
Starting point is 00:35:45 not in love with the non-Trevor Lawrence quarterbacks. They have two picks in the first round, so they have some wiggle room to decide what they want to do. They might have more if they trade out of the number two spot, too. Sky's the limit for the Jets. It'll be interesting to see what they do. We're going to take a break.
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Starting point is 00:36:50 it'll be interesting to see how the Rams defense does against Green Bay's offense, but I think Green Bay's defense is going to have their way with the Rams. I think the Packers win going away. We're going to give you a favorite play and a sleeper slash cheap play from each game for DFS. Jamie, who's your favorite play Rams at Packers? It's Cam Akers. You know, I look at what he has done with his workload. You know, the Rams are going to try and run the ball. That's been the Packers weakness for the majority of the season. There's not a great running backs on the slate this week. You know, just give him some of the matchups. Like I think acres at his price point is better than Aaron Jones at his
Starting point is 00:37:27 price point. Just knowing what the way these two defenses match up. So I'll take acres at 5,700 on draft Kings as my favorite play. The Packers defense is, is a little expensive. 3,900 on, on draft Kings. They're the top ranked defense for the week.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And they're second on FanDuel at 4,600. But I don't hate it, and I think that the Rams are going to have a hard time here. The Packers, I think their defense has been playing great for a while. Playing at home is going to help. Golf on the road, outdoors, it's going to be cold. I think it's going to be tough on him. I could see the Green Bay defense certainly getting a couple turnovers and a couple of sacks, so that's going to be my favorite play in the game. Best sleeper slash cheap play. I'll go first. I'll say it's Valdez Scantling,
Starting point is 00:38:09 who at 3,800 on DraftKings, 5,500 on FanDuel, outside of the top 14 as far as salary goes at the wide receiver position. Just a boom-bust play. We know that Ramsey won't be on him. Not sure how the Rams are going to be able to deal with that speed. I think Rogers can work even without Bakhtiari left tackle. And even with Beldeer on the COVID list,
Starting point is 00:38:30 I think the Packers can protect Rogers enough for him to uncork a couple of lobs for Valdez Scantling. I think he's a good cheap play. Yeah. My favorite is Robert Tunyon. I think, you know, that's a spot you can attack the Rams defense.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Tunyon, $4,200 on draft Kings. He's, he's a tight end for me in one lineup of flux and another, you know that's a spot you can attack the Rams defense uh Tanya $4,200 on DraftKings uh he's he's uh a tight end for me in one lineup a flex in another um you know we've seen the touchdown certainly there and I think if Adams does have a tough time with Ramsey and the Rams trying to take him away uh Valdez Gantling certainly has a much higher ceiling Lazard might have a higher ceiling but I think Tanya is going to be somebody that gets pepper with targets in this matchup and he's one of my favorite plays across the board, not just in this game.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Would you consider the green Bay stack of Rogers and Adams this week, knowing that a lot of people are going to see Jalen Ramsey and not use that stack? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:18 from a contrarian standpoint, you know, if you played that with DK makeup last week, you're pretty thrilled about it. You know, he scored two touchdowns. One of them came on Ramsey. It was at the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It was the garbage time touchdown. The other one was, you know, he was, there was a broken play where Russell Wilson was escaping the pocket. And I don't think Ramsey even started the play on Metcalf. So, you know, Metcalf getting you two touchdowns, it clearly can happen. You know, we saw Stefan Diggs scoring Ramsey earlier this season. He gives up touchdowns. You just, you know, it's natural.
Starting point is 00:39:42 He's just one of the best corners, if not the best corner in football. So it's not going to be easy for Adams. Plus the coverage that the, the Rams play Adams doesn't typically have a lot of success against. So they're going to make things uncomfortable for him. And I think that's where Rogers has a little bit of a tough time, but I do agree with you that the Rams, when I just don't think they win it going away, I think it's gonna be a close game and the Rams actually cover. Okay. Interesting. Adams is the highest priced wide receiver on both
Starting point is 00:40:06 sites, but he's only 400 more on FanDuel than DraftKings. So if you're looking for an edge, if you plan on spending up that money, doing it on FanDuel probably makes a lot of sense because the prices are so close together. Ravens-Bills, this is the game I can't wait to see. This is my favorite playoff game of the weekend. I think it's going to be a ton of fun. And I don't know if there's a bad play in the game. I think the most popular play, and the guy that I'll go with is a guy that's going to be in my lineups, is Devin Singletary. With Zach Moss out, the talk in Buffalo, at least according to reports, is that Singletary
Starting point is 00:40:35 will get the majority of the workload there. And his price is cheap. You see that he only needs 13.5 PPR points on DraftKings to make three times value. This sounds funny, and maybe people will think that it's actually low, but in 12 of 17 games, the Bills running backs combined for at least 13 and a half PPR points. And you think about 13 and a half PPR points. What the hell is that when it comes to running backs? You know, three catches, a hundred total yards. If you get a touchdown and 70 total yards, I mean, you see that all the time. It seems like an easy bar to cross. And they only,
Starting point is 00:41:05 they, they only did it only in quotes, 12 of 17 times this season. But if Singletary is getting all the work, I've got a lot of confidence in him coming through there. His price is 1200 more on FanDuel. So I think he's a better use on DraftKings than FanDuel, but he's the guy that I think is my favorite play in the game.
Starting point is 00:41:24 All things considered in a game where we like a lot of guys, Jamie. Yeah, I'm going to go Mark Andrews. You know, I think you're going to see the Ravens lean on him if the game plan is to follow what the Colts just did. And we know Mark Andrews is clearly a big piece of what this passing game is, especially if they do end up chasing points. So the Colts, despite the fact that the Bills have typically done defending tight ends with Matt Milano on the field, 14 catches, 136 yards, and a touchdown, 16 targets.
Starting point is 00:41:50 If Mark Andrews gets anything close to his typical 8 to 10 targets, then he's going to have a big game, I think, based on the way that he typically plays when the targets are up. Had six targets against the Titans, four catches, 41 yards. I think he'll be better than that. I think he scores. So he's my favorite tight end play this week, not named Travis Travis Kelsey. Do you have a favorite cheapie for this game? Yes. Singletary certainly qualifies for that. I had a guy, you know, I'm going to go back to John Brown. I like the fact that he ran 40 routes on the 41 dropbacks that Josh Allen had. And I
Starting point is 00:42:23 think he's going to come back and play at a much better level. It's a revenge game for him. Spent one year in Baltimore. So with Josh Allen, while Devin Singletary has an opportunity here, this is Josh Allen's offense. He's going to throw the ball all over the place. And I think John Brown, people are going to stay away from him after what happened last week where he didn't have a catch on one target.
Starting point is 00:42:39 He'll bounce back and play at a much higher level this week. Call me crazy. I'm going to go with the Ravens defense as a sleeper. Just on the hunch that they can sack Josh Allen a couple of times. They can turn him over a couple of times. They've got a feisty secondary. They got off to a rough start against Ryan Tannehill last week, and then they settled down and they shut him down.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I know comparing Ryan Tannehill to Josh Allen, forget it. It's not even close. And Josh Allen's been playing great this year. I think the Ravens are going to give them a game. I think the Ravens can actually win. And I think that their defense can come up with a couple of turnovers. It'll be a high-scoring game, but maybe they score on top of it. And the key for me is that they're the sixth most expensive DST
Starting point is 00:43:18 on a week where there's only eight teams playing, and they're talented. 2,800 on DraftKings, 3,600 on FanDuel. I like them. I'm going to put them in my lineup. Maybe it's contrarian to do so, and maybe it's stupid. It'll end up being stupid to do so, but I think that they can put up just enough numbers
Starting point is 00:43:36 to come up with good value as a defense this week. Go ahead. Call me stupid. No, it's not a bad call. I mean, look, Josh Allen's had some fumble issues this season. So this is defense that's getting healthy at the right time. So hopefully they can, uh, they can play at that level for, for you and the other people that are trusting. Okay. Two defenses that we definitely should not use. Although some people might put
Starting point is 00:43:59 them in their lamps for whatever reason. I don't know why they would use the Browns defense against the chiefs. And I'm not sure why they'd use the Browns defense against the Chiefs, and I'm not sure why they'd use the Chiefs defense against the Browns. Should be a high-scoring game. This game is going to be on CBS. You can watch it on CBS All Access, by the way, Sunday at three o'clock. Favorite play in this game, Jamie? Is there someone that you really love? I mean, you know, the Chiefs guys are the clear favorites, but you know, if you want to go the other way, obviously the Browns guys are going to be a better price point. So I'll take Jarvis Landry. He's been on a nice little roll again, chasing points.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I don't buy this, this, this their numbers against receivers are as good as it's been. We've talked about that a lot throughout the course of the season. And so chasing points, Landry cream hunt as well. Both those two guys are going to be a lot of my lamps. I like Baker.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I like him as he's the sixth most expensive quarterback on FanDuel, seventh on DraftKings. He's super duper cheap. I actually love him on DraftKings. He's 2,100 less on DraftKings than he is on FanDuel. Just an amazing bargain. I do wonder just how
Starting point is 00:45:00 good this Kansas City defense is and what they've allowed against opposing quarterbacks gives me some hope for Baker Mayfield in this game. They've allowed multiple passing touchdowns in eight straight games, 300 yards allowed in three of their past four, four of their past six Baker himself has at least two passing touchdowns in five of his past seven. I also think he's going to have to throw a ton. So I like him. I think it's, it's even a little contrarian because not a lot of people are going to turn to Baker Mayfield against Kansas City in a game where the Browns got lucky last week. Now they're going to get
Starting point is 00:45:32 walloped this week. I think he can come through and I think he can return at least four times value against Kansas City for the Browns. My sleeper in the game is someone he's going to throw to, Austin Hooper. Chiefs have allowed a touchdown to a tight end in each of their last two games, three of their past four. Hooper scored in each of his past two and three of his past four. He's gotten at least six, he's averaged, sorry, 6.8 targets per game over his past six. And Kansas City, 12 times this year, this isn't so great for him, but 12 times this year, they've seen a tight end with at least five targets. Four have scored,
Starting point is 00:46:03 seven have given you at least 12 PPR points. And again, Baker's going to throw a lot. I think Hooper can have a pretty decent matchup and he's cheaper compared to a lot of other tight ends on the board. So he's my favorite cheap play in that game. Jamie, who's your favorite cheap play in that game? Rashard Higgins, again, just a similar setup, chasing points. He's the second receiver in this offense. We've seen some big games for him throughout the course of the season. Based on his price point, $4,100 on DraftKings, I'll take my chance to lose Rashard Higgins this week.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Outside of the top 15 priced wide receivers on both DraftKings. I'll split Daryl Williams at $4,000. Yeah, you talked about that. Daryl Williams is $4,800 on FanDuel,, 4,000 on DraftKings. I think if he retains that third down roll, and it would make perfect sense that he would,
Starting point is 00:46:52 gets three or four catches, finds the end zone, he easily gives you three times value. Not a bad play at all. Let's go to the Senior Bowl. And I say the Senior Bowl because it's two seniors at quarterback playing in this game. It's Brady against Breeze. Round three. There have only been two games all season where Tampa Bay has either not won or not lost by three or fewer points. You follow me? Only two games where they've been blown out. And they were both against New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:47:18 An 11-point loss to New Orleans in week one. A 35-point loss to New Orleans in week nine. I think it'll be a closer game than that this time around. It's hard to beat a team three times in one season. That's a narrative that everybody's throwing around a favorite play in this game. Jamie Eisenberg. A favorite play in this game is probably going to be drew breeze. You know, just looking at the way the quarterback pricing is and you know what he's doing. This is, barring a Rams victory, his last game in New Orleans, potentially, ever. And so I think he's going to want to go out and go out his way, throwing the ball a little bit. I think he's going to throw to Alvin Kamara quite a bit in this game.
Starting point is 00:47:58 The Bucs have been awful against pass-catching running backs all season. I think they're going to throw to Jared Cook in this game a lot as well. So I like the setup for Drew Brees in this matchup. Tampa Bay has a lot of touchdown and or 70 yards to a tight end in four of their past five games. Cook had 80 yards in week one. He only had 30 yards in week nine. Trotman and Hill each scored in week nine.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Those are the other tight ends in New Orleans. I think the tight ends will be involved. Brees will lean on him. Brees is my favorite play in this game as well, but Cook is going to be right behind him. He probably would have been a good cheap play for me to say. I don't know if I necessarily have a second one now. So do you have a cheap play? Yeah, Antonio Brown. He's the cheapest of the three receivers. Mike Evans typically struggles in this matchup. Marshawn Lattimore hasn't had the same type of season,
Starting point is 00:48:45 but he's still frustrated having the two matchups that these two teams met. Godwin obviously is back to getting a ton of targets as we saw last week. You know, Brown didn't have a huge game in the matchup last week for Tampa Bay, but I still think that he has a chance to keep his touchdown streak going. It could be five in a row. And based on his price point, $5,400 on DraftKings, I'll play play him this week a lot you know john brown was was a good call because he had a terrible game last week and maybe not a lot of people are going to chase that or trust it i think that same could be said for emmanuel sanders and the fact that he's at 4500 on draft kings 5700 on fan duel
Starting point is 00:49:18 won't be popular and i think the bucks defense just i i don't know how great it is against the pass and you sound like you're on board with breeze i'm on board with breeze sanders is going and I think the Bucks defense, I don't know how great it is against the pass. You sound like you're on board with Breeze. I'm on board with Breeze. Sanders is going to be a target for Breeze. I think he could be a pretty decent play as well. Before we get into our Apple podcast questions, I want to let you know that Fantasy Football Today in 5 is still going on.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Sportsline's Jacob Gibbs is joining me for a special player props edition of FFT in 5 tomorrow for the playoff game. So you'll get some stats. You need to know for props and DFS in just five minutes, Jamie, we've got some Apple podcast questions to get to, and then we'll wrap it up. Sure. From the capital of Canada. That's Ottawa.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And this is a question. Perfect for you, Jim. When do you expect to be paid out for your league winnings? Buddy invited me to his friend's money league with a $50 buy-in. It's his first time being in a paid league. He won, but the league is disorganized and people are sending me money individually instead of to the commission at the beginning of the year. So when is it fair to ask the commissioner for all of the winnings? And is the Ottawa Senator writing us in being too impatient?
Starting point is 00:50:27 I think you should expect to be paid when the regular season is over. But, you know, obviously every league is different and every person that you play with is different. So for me, with the leagues that I run, my personal leagues with my friends, I try to play that pay them at the end of the season. Because this is something that for the most part, they're doing, you know, for, for their entertainment and for their own, you know, personal pleasure. The leagues that we play with, you know, our colleagues, I'm not as, you know, certainly stringent as, hey, you got to pay, you got to pay, you got to pay, because I expect them to pay. And so I'm at the process at the point of the process now for me is tracking down our colleagues who haven't paid. And I'm not going to call anybody by name, but you know,
Starting point is 00:51:09 there, there are a few people that certainly our audience that we'll listen to that haven't paid up yet. So those are the ones that, you know, I usually get called out for because those are the ones that you guys know that I don't pay out right away. I owe Dave money, for example, for finishing second in a league. Yeah. I don't want to talk about that. So in any event, we're two weeks past the end of the regular season. You know you owe me money. Pay up. So I'm going to start tracking down.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I'm not one of those guys, am I? No, you pay. I owe you money. Okay. Yeah. But even if you owe me money, I don't want to be that guy. I don't think anybody wants to be that guy that owes money at the end of the year. No,
Starting point is 00:51:48 no, I mean, we have, we have a couple of analysts leagues that, uh, you know, uh, some of the analysts from other sites have yet to pay me,
Starting point is 00:51:56 you know, again, I don't, I don't like to be that guy throughout the course of the season saying, Hey, you owe, I usually make it pretty clear when I send out the playoff matchups, please pay up,
Starting point is 00:52:03 you know, please pay up. I want to make sure you pay everybody by the end of the end of the playoffs. But, you know, it's typically those are the leagues where I get the most criticism for, because those are the ones you guys know, but the personal leagues I pay play in, those are the ones I try to pay out by week 17. And is the solution to this just asking everybody to pay before the draft.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And if you don't pay, then you don't draft. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, especially when you know, you have, you know, people in reserve that could take those spots that people are going to be,
Starting point is 00:52:31 you know, pushing back on that, you know, so, Hey, you don't want to pay. All right. You lose your,
Starting point is 00:52:35 you lose your team from T the 2011, dear Billy Leroy, Dewey and luscious. No idea. I don't, I don't either. After years of listening, a buddy and I decided, what's that? I think it's Lucicious. No idea. I don't, I don't either. After years of listening, a buddy and I decided what's up.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I think it's Lucius Lucius. Okay. After years of listening, a buddy and I decided to finally host a dynasty league. What are your thoughts on using kickers and DSTs slash IDPs in dynasty? We should probably make this two separate conversations. The first conversation, very short kickers and dynasty,
Starting point is 00:53:04 Jamie, you don't have to use them. It's totally your choice. If you use kickers and you like it, then use them. If you don't, you don't have to. All right. DSTs versus IDPs and Dynasty. I play in two Dynasty leagues. One is DSTs,
Starting point is 00:53:20 no IDP. One is IDP, no DSTs. That's the one that you and I play in and the one that you won this past season. IDPs are certainly fun. Heath Cummings runs that league. He does a great job with how he set it up where we use two defensive linemen, two linebackers, two DBs, and one flex. So it's as close to a full roster of IDPs as you'll find, a lot of people like to just use, you know, one D one defensive lineman, one linebacker, one DB and one flex. You can go that route if you want to. Um, I don't typically spend a lot of my focus on the defensive guys, uh, in that league.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Aside from, you know, if I, if I see that there's a young player that I think has a chance to be special when we get to our rookie draft, I'll draft those guys. Like for example, this past year, I took Patrick queen and, um, chase young. So I feel pretty good about those two players as cornerstones of my defense. And in the first draft that we did, I took Joey Bosa. So, you know, when we started the league, so those three players are kind of the cornerstones of my, of my IDP, uh, core, you know, so it just depends on what you want to do. But for the DSTs, it's, it's, uh, I'm trying to think like I had, I had the chiefs, I think going into the season and I dropped them for the Colts because I liked the Colts week one schedule.
Starting point is 00:54:38 They're available. Not a lot of people were looking at the Colts, uh, long-term. And then I think I've since pivoted to the saints who were dropped at some point during the season, and the Saints are my DST and my Dynasty League. So it all depends. It's pretty deep rosters. Some people have two DSTs. I don't think anybody has three. You could find yourself getting in trouble if you don't have a good D and you're
Starting point is 00:54:58 stuck trying to stream the Jets, the Jags, those type of defenses and you're in trouble. So it all depends on what you like. Yeah, it really depends on how involved you want your league to be and how detailed you like it. If you really want to get into the minutia of football, use IDPs. If your league is a little more casual, just use DSTs, and that would be the same advice I would give for a redraft league
Starting point is 00:55:17 as well as a dynasty league. Okay, enjoy the games this weekend, everybody. Jamie, I know you will as well. Good luck to you in your picks and in your DFS lineups. Next time we talk to you on the fantasy football today podcast, the games will be over. We'll review them and we'll reflect on another position heading into 2021 for Jamie Eisenberg, producer, Ben Schrager. I'm Dave Richard. Thanks for coming out.

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