Fantasy Football Today - Rankings Disputes! Jayden Daniels as QB1? Fade the Lions WRs? (06/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

A quick round of news and notes (3:50) including the Saints signing Cam Akers and then we get into our rankings disputes! Let's start with Jayden Daniels (11:30) who is a Top 3 quarterback for everyone, but he is QB1 for Heath ... While Heath is high on Daniels, he is not as high on Kyler Murray (23:00). Jamey advocates for Kyler as we wonder if he can reach the heights he reached earlier in his career. And what about his teammate James Conner (29:50)? Is age the only thing holding him back? ... Heath is the low guy on the Lions wide receivers (38:30) while Dave and Jamey tell us why they believe more strongly in Jameson Williams and Amon-Ra St. Brown. And we finish with a Mike Evans debate (47:40)! Dave has him as WR17, but can he convince Jamey and Heath to move Evans up? ... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fan To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. We welcome you to another week of fantasy football today. Welcome to the show. It is Monday, June 16th. We've got episodes on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday this week. So we will celebrate Juneteenth on Thursday. Today it is rankings disputes, disputes, disputes, disputes.

Should Jayden Daniels be QB one in the rankings? Should Kyler Murray be a top 12 quarterback? He has finished, Kyler Murray has finished as a top 12 quarterback per game, five straight seasons. Should James Connor be a low end RB2, mid range RB2, Amon Ra St. Brown, ahead of guys like Malik Neighbors? We'll talk about him.

He's anywhere from fourth through ninth in the wide receiver rankings. And what about Mike Evans and Jameson Williams? Okay, we'll get to those rankings disputes. How was everybody's father's day? Raise your hand if you think you had the best father's day of the four of us. Hmm. No one had that special.

I'm pretty confident that you guys had great. I had a great father's day. It was wonderful spending time with my family. I spend a lot of time at the pool. But I just assume you guys had great, I had a great father's day. It was wonderful spending time with my family. I spent a lot of time at the pool. But I just assume you guys had great father had some delicious seafood pasta last night. So really wonderful. Got a Larry Bird jersey. Oh, yeah, you think sounds like you win. Okay, yeah. Heath wins. I saw a lot of funny. I saw funny jokes that all the Boston fans that got Ratfield Devers jerseys for

their dads. Yeah, I had a pretty delicious one. Have you ever had the milk and cookies Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor? It's the elite. Go get some some milk and cookies. My favorite, I think. The cookie also had a pub for lunch. I miss those.

Is that a public sub? Yeah. Oh, that's terrific. All right. Sorry, Dave. What did you say? I was saying just the cookie two step from Blue Bell ice cream. Are you sure?

I think it will give Ben and Jerry's a run for its money. Coraline Sutton would agree. He loves that flavor. All right. Let's do some news and notes here, and then we will get into the show, and maybe we'll introduce Dave to new Adam at some point. There's Johnny already fired in new Adam likes good of ice cream.

Yes, I do. All right. Pete Carroll said, yeah, nothing more grown up than an ice cream called milk and cookies. Pete Carroll says he likes to use multiple running backs. Pete Carroll is a big fat liar. He does not like to use multiple running backs. Is anybody afraid of Ashton Gentry after Pete Carroll talking about using a bunch of running backs? No, no. A part of that story though was interesting because it was who's the number two guy there And I think that matters if you're concerned about genti's work coming off of the you know

a lot of touches that he had in college that Raheem mosturts 32 Sincere McCormick's coming off a strong run and Zamir white. These are the guys that are gonna be the backups for genti most likely it's going to be most her, but, uh, interesting to see who wins that number two job. If you are looking to handcuff a first round running back or a second, I had a difficult decision in the baked burger dynasty league. Cause, um, our commissioner decided he wanted everybody to drop all their players 24 hours before waivers open so he can get a good lay of the

land and who's available. Everyone could. And I had to decide whether to drop Sincere McCormick because like my last guy that I might drop him, not for a rookie draft, but for waiver heads. Yes. Old Adam had waivers running Monday night. New Adam changed it to Wednesday night. Yeah. I thought, so since we have guys in England, four of them who are what, five hours ahead of us or whatever,

I just didn't think it would be fair for us to make a drop at 10 p.m. when they're all asleep and not even know that they have the ability to pick up these players. And so I decided that we need to have our drops done a couple of days before waivers ran. I think that's actually, even old Adam would have done that. I think that was actually a pretty reasonable decision. would have done that. I think that was actually

pretty reasonable decision. But speaking of not knowing who the number two running back is, let's talk about the New Orleans Saints, as they have signed Cam Acres to a one year deal. And now they have Devin Neal, the rookie, they have Clyde Edwards Zillair, they have Kendre Miller, and now they have Cam Acres. So it's a I don't know, Dave, you think there's a clear backup to Camara at this point?

I'd put it on acres as of now, they know what they have in Kendra Miller. And maybe this is the brand new coaching staff realizing that the old coaching staff, uh, knew what they were talking about when it came to Miller. And I think it adds competition. I think we all know what Clyde Edwards Zillair is at this point. And Akers is clearly still in decent enough shape to play ball. I would probably venture a guess that it's either going to be him or Devin Neal as the back behind Alvin Kamara.

But it's not really going to matter for fantasy unless Kamara misses time. Duh. Malik Neighbors is progressing as he's recovering from a toe injury and he's been dealing with this toe injury since college. So they're being very cautious with neighbors. John Shipley of Sports Illustrated did a depth chart projection for the Jaguars and he had tried he, you know, suspects Travis ETN will start the season as the starter, but he also thinks that

for running backs, we'll get some some run at some point. Denver wide receiver Devon Vailay will be ready for training camp after missing mini camp. Zach Jackson of the athletic called Cleveland wide receiver Cedric Tillman a locked in starter. He's dealing with an injury right now, but he called him a locked in starter Cedric Tillman. The Raiders should have stayed on this one when I talked about Genti. The Raiders want to get tight end Michael Mayer more involved in the offense,

according to the Las Vegas review journal. And Heath, obviously that doesn't mean that we should be drafting Michael Mayer is now going into his third year, but does it mean, you know, more target competition for Brock Bowers? Now they have Jack Besh and obviously Jacobi Myers and Genti. No, I am not concerned about Brock Bowers or Ashton Gentie. Um, I wished they would trade Michael Mayer to somebody who needs a tight end that could score fantasy points.

Cause I think he could do that in the right opportunity, but the, the, the most annoying he might be is he happens to score a couple of touchdowns and steal them away from Bowers like Noah Gray did with Kelsey last year. But it's not going to be that biggest split. Trey Lockerbie Okay. Packers running back, Marshawn Lloyd says he's 100% healthy. And boy, what an injury riddled rookie season Marshawn Lloyd had. And Jaylen Polk, we saw another report from ESPN, not the first one that he might not make the team. So second year rookie wide or second year receiver who was drafted early

in the second round. And he also could start training camp on the pupless according to ESPN. That's Jalen Polk. And finally, Rams offensive tackle Aleric Jackson is dealing with blood clots. So hoping for the best for him. That could be something that jeopardizes his season. It's not the first time that Aleric Jackson has dealt with blood clots. So this is a something, you know, we're gonna hope for the best for him. They signed DJ Humphreys last week. So my guess is that

Jackson is probably not going to make it for the majority of the season. This is the point where Jamie goes, did you get this note and that note? And I go, no, I didn't see that. Is there anything?, did you get this note and that note? And I go, no, I didn't see that. Is there anything? What did I miss this time? I don't think anything that stood out.

All right. I'm sure something will come to me though. Well many camps are over so we don't have those reports of like, oh, this guy did well or this guy did that. So Travis Kelsey lost a bunch of weight. That's right. He did. He lost 130 pounds or something.

How much weight did he lose? 50 pounds, 25 pounds? I think in the 20s would be my guess. 25 pounds. 130 pounds. He broke up with Taylor. I thought that's where you were going when you started that.

Oh no, I was even thinking that they were at the Panthers game the other night. Yeah, he used to love Kelsey. Now he's a Panthers fan. Yeah, we're all Panthers fans on this show. Let's bring it home tomorrow. Let's bring it home tomorrow. Let's keep it home tomorrow. All right, what kind of wonderful written content

do we have coming up on the website or out now that you'd like to talk about? Jamie. So I did this whole story that Dan broke up into divisions of older veterans that will matter at some point. I think I referenced this last week that I was writing this. And so it's the Zach Ertz, John O. Smith, the guys from last year, Adam Thielen, you know, players that we don't draft or don't have any interest in drafting that at some

point will be relevant. So like the example I think I brought up on the show last week, Alan Lozard before Devonte Adams joined the roster was somebody that was producing at a very high level. And so can someone like that who, you know, older still has a potential role, can they help your fantasy team? So it's, it was a little struggle finding a guy for every team. I'll be honest. Like, for example, the Broncos don't have a lot of veteran guys that aren't going to get drafted, right? The two who are qualified

as veterans are Cortland, Sutton and Emmanangram. Everybody's drafted them. This is really like guys that aren't getting drafted. So I cheated with that team and I just used Marvin Mims because he's the oldest of the youngest receivers. So that was like one where I had to stretch it. But it was fun, you know, kind of going through it and seeing, you know, like Robert Woods can actually still be a starting receiver for the Steelers I don't know if I'd use the word fun for that again, but interesting that you know He can still be a starting receiver for the for the Steelers You know so players like that and and again, you know a few of them I stretch like the Vikings

I think I did Nick Mullins I'm sorry the same how because if something happens to McCarthy like Sam Howell will be very popular on the waiver wire. So it's stuff like that. But it was fun, fun to ride, fun to research it and hopefully enjoy the breeding. All right, good stuff. Let's get into the rankings disputes. I have six of them. Then your emails, if we have time at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Heath has Jaden Daniels as QB1 in six point per passing touchdown leagues. I only, you know, the rankings are for six point per passing touchdown leagues. I only, you know, the rankings are for six point per passing touchdown leagues. If you see them, I just want to highlight that because maybe people would say, oh, maybe in four point, but you have them as QB1 in six point per passing touchdown

leagues. Dave and Jamie have him as QB3. So it's a bold move, Cotton. Go for it. Cotton Wren Yeah, there might be a few of he has on the show today. Jason Tate We should just call the show Heath has dot dot dot. That should be the same thing. This is the one I like the most because I get to just talk good about somebody. No, Jaden Daniels averaged 26 fantasy points per game in the 15 games in the regular season last year

that he played at least 50% of the snaps. He averaged 26.8 fantasy points per game in three playoff games. As a rookie, they added Debo Samuel and there's room for him to improve as a second year passer. And really the only one, the only guy who was significantly better than 26 fantasy points per game last year was Lamar Jackson. And we've talked about it. Like Lamar is awesome. I don't think he's going to fall off or be bad or anything like that, but there's clear and obvious touchdown regression. We've seen the touchdown rates spike like they did last year, five years ago with Lamar. His touchdown rates been anywhere from

3% passing to 9% passing. It's all over the board. Last year was a high, it's coming back down. So I don't have anybody projected to score 30 points like he did last year. Daniels, Lamar, Allen, and Burroughs not far behind him in terms of the projections are all right, right there around 25 to 26 fantasy points per game. I've got Daniels at the top. You know, the last quarterback who averaged 26 fantasy points per game, six point per passing touchdown leagues as a rookie Cam Newton Cam Newton was that like 25.3. There's a great guess and he never really came close to that until I think five years later

Justin Herbert Followed it up with a very good second season Daniels Daniels. Yeah I mean, it's funny. He only averaged 23.5 points per game, but as Heath mentioned, he left two games early. So I did use that 26 points per game, Mark, just to see if there was any precedent. Justin Herbert, he was QB eight as a rookie,

and then he was QB three per game. He had a 5,000 yard season with 38 touchdown passes the following year. So pretty damn good follow up act. Um, Dave and Jamie, obviously you guys hate Jane Daniels with him as QB three, Dave. What, which is more likely to happen. This is the thought exercise that I went through. Jane Daniels starts and continues to play as hot as he finished last year. Or Lamar Jackson builds on the career highs he had in attempts, completions, yards, touchdowns yards per attempt, a dot, a sack rate.

Um, this was Lamar's first year with Derek Henry and defenses played them a little bit differently. And he added Deandre Hopkins for whatever that's worth. And he just continues to shine. I think you could make the case for Daniels over Lamar, just thinking that, yeah, Daniels is going to keep doing what he's doing. Heath said it, they added Debo Samuel. There could be new wrinkles in the offense.

The offensive line should be a little bit better. All that stuff matters. I guess I'm just a little bit nervous about Daniels fading a little bit in his second season. We just saw that from CJ Stroud. Teams are going to have all kinds of film and theories on how to slow him down and it just it makes me want to trust Lamar just a little bit more rather than trust Jayden Daniels and Josh Allen to me has just been consistent over 26 fantasy points per game and six point each of the last four years I'd rather have Allen and just take the the points that

I know will be there and if it's an upside case between Lamar and Daniels, as of now, I'll take Lamar, but it's really close between him and Jay and Daniels. I just want to get the third quarterback. That's really what it comes down to for me. So whether it's Lamar, whether it's Alan, whether it's JD, one of those three, if I can get them in round four, maybe late round three, third overall in a two QB league,

that's what I'm targeting. Okay, sorry, gotta take a break. Then's what I'm targeting. Okay, sorry. We've got to take a break. Then I'm going to get Jamie's thoughts on this. So let's take a quick commercial break here. And when we come back, Jamie will tell us his thoughts on Heath ranking, Jane Daniels as QB1.

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All right, welcome back. Jamie, Tyree, No, sorry. I already got it in once. That's that's enough for today's show. Um, yeah. So Daniel's, you know, why not put him as QB one? He easily could be QB one. Uh, I think both guys made great points. Uh, I, I, Dave's going to get Jane Daniels around four in our drafts. He's his ADP is never going to get to round four in what I would guess would be most drafts once we get to August. The thing that's a little concerning to me, Dave sort of brought this up, is that we've seen these great rookie seasons before and then there's been mostly regression. You mentioned Justin Herbert was great in his second season. You think about Baker Mayfield and how he performed as a rookie and then took a step back in his second year. C.J. Stroud, what

he did in his rookie season, took a step back in the second year. CJ Stroud, what he did in his rookie season, took a step back in the second year. And if it's not necessarily just rookies, it's first-time starters like Jordan Love, the end of 2023 was great, 2024 took a step back. And so I don't obviously have any big concerns about Jay and Daniels. And I do think that the top five guys are in a different category for me than everybody else, but there's tiers of those guys. I think the first three guys are in one tier of Jackson, Allen, and Daniels, and that's why I haven't ranked.

And then Burrow and Hertz are just sort of a slight step behind. However we have those guys ranked, for me it's Burrow over Hertz. But I think Daniels is going to continue to improve. I think he has the right mindset, the right mentality from everything that I've seen about him, from the guys I know who cover that team and say about him. Coaching staff is still the same. They added a piece in terms of the offense, Indivo, Samuel, however you think about him in terms of his shape.

The only real concern right now, to be honest, is a lengthy Terry McClure and holdout because I think that will scare some people knowing that if he doesn't have his number one receiver potentially in camp, potentially maybe until the start of the season, we know how holdouts are sort of ruined years for those particular players, but will be a little bit of a potential damage for Jane Daniels. But again, I think he's in that upper tier right now of the top three quarterbacks. And if you want to take him ahead of the other two guys, I really will not have a strong argument against it.

And I'll just, I think that's a good point also to make is I don't think in one of our drafts this year, I've drafted Jayden Daniels first at quarterback, unless you are just on one of the ends and not picking again for 20 picks. I've found that generally I can just wait until Alan and Jackson get taken and Daniels is there for my next pick. And I would also point out like Joe Burrow in a six point per passing touchdown. Like, you know what? I think this is actually a good topic for another show is, is it really not just a five person tier, especially in a six point per passing touchdown

league? Cause Joe Burrow, like in, in 2022, he played nine games with a healthy chase and Higgins. In 2022, he played nine games with a healthy Chase and Higgins. And I'll just give his passing stats on pace for 4,945 yards, 42 touchdowns, 2023 starts the season hurt. Last five games on pace for 5,000 yards, 41 touchdowns. Last year, 4,900 yards, 43 touchdowns. So he's done it in stretches for three straight years. I don't know that it's completely fluky what he did last year, 4,900 yards, 43 touchdowns. So he's done it, you know, in stretches for three straight years. I don't know that it's completely fluky

what he did last year. And what did he, last year, Burrow was a QB two per game, right? And in six point for passing touchdown leagues. I'm at three. Three? I had two at 20. Tense of a point behind Josh Allen.

Okay. Yeah. Cause he got to take out week 18 for Josh Allen. So it's very close between those two. Yeah. Anyway, that, because you got to take out week 18 for Josh Allen. So it's very close between those two. Yeah, anyway, that's a topic for another show. But but here's one thing I love about about Jayden Daniels compared to the other three mobile elite quarterbacks Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jaylen Hertz. Based on last year, and based on what we saw from Kyler Murray with Cliff Kingsbury, he

throws more than those guys and he runs more than Allen and Jackson. This is a quarter, they don't run the ball that much with the running backs. So I don't know if there's like a usage rate stat in football, but Jaden Daniels usage rate, pass attempts and rush attempts is going to be, I would project higher than the other guys. And with Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray used to throw the ball 34 or more times per game with Cliff Kingsbury. We actually saw that from Daniels in the last half of the season when he finished on just a ridiculous tear scoring like over 26 points per game almost every single week. So I love that. It was 30.4 in his

final six games that includes a week 18 dud from Jane Daniels. He didn't play that much in week 18. It was right. If you throw that out, it's 35.6. That's, that's a legitimate ceiling. I don't know if it's a legitimate ceiling for 30 is for sure. 34 sure is the ceiling. And I don't know if we can say that about Josh Allen Lamar averaged 30.1 last year in a year where he had a bazillion career highs, like I outlined. So yeah, I mean, we could say that he could also have the lowest floor of the three, just because the concerns that we've got for him. Burrow, by the way, in his last nine games, 31.2 fantasy points per game and six point. I'll raise you this though. It's going to be in Burrows favor. I think like every single

week is that defense sucks in Cincinnati. Okay. Last eight games for Jayden Daniels, including three playoff games, the average 32.5 fantasy points per game and six point per passing touchdown. It's insane. And we've never, I don't think we've ever seen anything like that for a full season, be my guess.

And he was throwing the ball a lot. I don't know if I have his pass attempts and it was, I think 33 ish pass attempts per game in that stretch. All right. Let's go to Kyler Murray and Jamie, I'll let you start on Kyler here. You have him as the hot, you're the high guy on Kyler. You have him as QB 12. Remember I said at the top of the show, Kyler has been top 12 per game last year. He was 12th per game. Exactly. The year before that 11th per game coming off a torn ACL five straight seasons as a top 12 quarterback per

game. So Jamie, you have him 12th day of 15th, Heath 17th on Kyler. Go ahead, Jamie. He's part of that blob of quarterbacks for me that include Purdy and Lawrence and May and golf. Um, trying things, anybody else in there that I'm missing that, you know, I think all could be top 10 ish quarterbacks it's interesting that sports line is so aggressive projecting him to be number seven if you're looking at the graphic on YouTube I I think you just kind of know what you're getting at this point and I'm hoping that a better Marvin Harrison and a couple more touchdowns for Trey McBride can push you know Kyler Murray back to where we were hoping he

was gonna be last year coming off the ACL tear you know what you're gonna get from him as a rusher for the most part. He's going to give you that floor, which is hard to overlook. And if he can get back to being, I think, what he was as a passer, at least what I hope he can be as a passer, a little bit more consistently with some improvements, mostly from Harrison, then I still like him as a low end starter. But again, if somebody takes him and I have to let's say settle For any of these other guys. I'm certainly not opposed to it

So I think initially when I did my rankings he may have been you know tenth or so I struggle really with him and Caleb Williams of buying into the height for Caleb Williams versus the consistency of Kyler again as you alluded To you know being a top 12 quarterback almost every year of his career But I still think there's there's upside because of his legs. And that's really the biggest thing is like if he continues to be a successful running quarterback to wherever you want to put him in his career as a rusher. But we know the profiles there for him to be a 700 yard rusher. And that's hard to overlook if he can get back to that level.

Heath Kyler Murray had the most rushing yards for a quarterback that did not average 20 fantasy points per game and six point per passing touchdown league since the great Daniel Jones in 2022. And he was what 19.9 that year? And Kyler was 19.8 last year. So it was very close, but 572 rushing yards and five rushing touchdowns. And he still didn't manage to score 20 fantasy points per game. Um, you have him as QB 17.

I'm just going to, I know you well enough. Okay. He's pretty close in the projections to whoever's QB 12, right? Oh, that's a, that was exactly my first line of defense. Uh, a half point points per game and the projection separates QB 12 from QB 17, either Murray, he's only a full point per game away the projection separates QB 12 from QB 17. Wow. He's only a full point per game away from QB 10.

So I don't have a strong take on where to put him in that group. I think the thing I struggle with the most is because of what he can do as a rusher and because we think Marvin Harrison could be really good and Trey McBride is one of the two best tight ends in football, two best young tight ends in football, sorry, George Kittle. Um, I, especially now that Kelsey lost 130 pounds. He seems to be like a high upside guy, but it's been so long since we've seen

anything resembling high upside from Kyler Murray. And he hasn't been an above average passer since 2021. So I, I didn't love their offensive plan last year. And I haven't seen anything says that they're going to do a whole lot different. Like I think what Jamie said, if Marvin Harrison's better is kind of the key, but I almost look at it less as if Marvin Harrison's better and if they give him an opportunity to do other things. I'm glad you mentioned that it's been a while since we've seen that elite upside because I keep saying in top 12 per game, five straight seasons. Well, the last three seasons have been 11th or 12th. And the two before that, when he and Deandre Hopkins are really clicking QB seven per game QB six per game.

And then if you even break down those great years where he's top seven, he had like mid season injuries, I think in at least one or maybe Deandre Hopkins got hurt in one at the other one and he was close to QB one at one point, you know, he was unbelievable. You know throwing the ball a ton, running the ball a ton. Dave, I'm gonna give you a one stat here. I'm gonna give you two stats. I wanna hear what you think about it for Kyler.

First of all, he scored about 36 points in week 18 against the 49ers who did play, I think, their typical defensive lineup, but maybe not for, you know, like Joey, like Nick Bose played like 40% of the snaps. That's number one, so a huge week 18. He would have been QB 15 per game and six point per touchdown league,

per pass touchdown league before that. And the other one is, I'm not gonna go through all the numbers, but just to say, in the last three years when Kyler's been QB 11 or 12 per game, he's basically gotten nothing on deep balls. In his first three years, at least 970 yards

and six to seven touchdowns per year on deep balls, 20 or more area yards. Last year, 553 yards and four touchdowns. So that's just, that's been an element of his game that has disappeared over the last three seasons. And how do you expect that to get better when Marvin Harrison's gaining weight and they don't have a legitimate speedster that can contribute to that specific category once or twice a game, maybe even once or twice every two games. So I think we know what we're getting with Kylo right now. In the last three seasons, it's 20, 20.8 and 20.8 fantasy points per game in six point. It's not exciting. It's I don't know. It's like seeing an average comedian.

Yeah, you'll laugh a little bit, but it's not one of the stars and it's not even one of the hot young comedians that's making their way up in the world. I don't know why I chose comedians. He's an opening act. He's not even an opening act. He's the act you settle for when the other acts are sold out. So he doesn't have the big upside anymore? Why would I even consider him, right? He's throwing to Marvin Erickson and Trey McBride.

Why would I consider him when Trevor Lawrence is throwing to Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter? Why would I consider him when Caleb Williams is throwing to DJ Moore, Roma Dunze, and Colson Loveland and whoever else they have and they can't run the ball potentially? Why would I consider him when Jared Goff has Sun God and J Mo and Laporta? There's just, you can make an easier upside argument for like six or seven other quarterbacks that aren't going top five. Now, how many of them, Caleb is the only one that's rushing for 570 yards. Yeah. The other ones are throwing for more yards and touchdowns. Oh, may I run for more than that?

Oh yeah. No, I was just saying the guys that Dave mentioned. Yeah. Well, and like we hope the other guys, I think that's, that's where I struggle. I've got Williams and Lawrence ahead of Kyler as well, but I could argue against myself and say, well, they've never shown they're as good as him. Well, Heath, I think instead of that, why don't you argue against another Cardinal and that's James Connor. Because Dave and Jamie have him as RB 18 in PPR. You have James Connor as RB 26. And the first thing I think this comes down to is James Connor's going to be 30 years old week one. And we had a potentially historically great running back class just get drafted into the NFL, at least a very good running back class.

And how many of those rookies do you want to take over the 30 year old Connor? And I did a Twitter poll on this in preparation for this, Adam, just asking, uh, how many rookie running backs would you take before James Connor and redraft? 20% said one, 58% said two to to four 13% said five or more. Um, I, I've got him just behind three or four of the second tier rookies and Dave and Jamie have him just ahead of those guys. I think he's going to be better than RB 26 when he's healthy, probably, but he is 30 years old or will be soon.

And coming off of a career high in both games played and touches. And I know we just saw the old running backs prove me wrong all year last year, but I'm, I'm not willing to make that bet on Connor. I don't think he's Derek Henry. Jamie make the case for Connor. You have him as RB 18 so does Dave and again he has Connor as RB 26 and sportsline what youtube.com fantasy football today if you're looking at this graphic sportsline has James Connors RB 14 and he does that every year when he's healthy four straight

years when he's healthy he's you know you know, at least RB 14. So, uh, go ahead, Jamie. Yeah, I love defending the older players. Um, I think in, in the case, uh, what Heath was talking about with the rookies, like they all keep getting some sort of, or, you know, have some sort of significant competition. And that's my biggest concern with those guys versus Connor. So Genties easy. and then it's sort of like the sliding scale of you know Henderson and what his upside could be Hampton and what his upside could be. Obviously now we have the situation in Denver with Dobbins there to you know potentially ruin Harvey and you know Judkins and

Caleb Johnson and the guys that they were you know drafted either with or to compete against. You know Connor doesn't have that and so it's not really like I keep moving him up. It's like just keep moving these other players back. And so I could see a situation where I move him even behind, let's say DeAndre Swift. I'm sure Heath probably has it already. And then depending on how some of these camp battles, you know, shake out and the word we hear out of, you know, New England and Denver and Cleveland and Pittsburgh, for example, and the Chargers, you know, like I could easily see myself moving the rookies back ahead of Connor but I think you kind of know what you're getting and for me it's more not necessarily the season long because I do think he's gonna miss probably the three games that

he's missed for the majority of his career certainly the majority of his Cardinals tenure prior to last year so you just kind of have to understand like can you get 13 great games out of him can you get 12 great games out of him? Can you get 12 great games out of him? And if you get that, I think he'll end up being in this range. And he'll probably, he'll certainly be better on a point per game basis. Like you said, Adam, you know, he's, you know, 14 at worst during the majority of his career. It's a matter of, you know, which pocket of games does he miss? Which pocket of games does he potentially hurt your fantasy team?

But when he's on the field, his points per game are going to be among the best I think at the position. And yeah, you mentioned he'll miss some games. He played 16 games last year, but two of them he left with fewer than 30% of the snaps. So for all intents and purposes, he had 14 healthy games in those 14 healthy games. He was good enough to be RB 10 per game. Overall, he finishes RB 15 per game. All right, Dave, your thoughts on James Connor, you also have him at RB 18. For straight years of at least 11 non PPR points per game 13 half PPR points per game 15 plus PPR points per game, all with

Arizona. I think he may not be Derek Henry. No one is but as far as physical running backs who can catch the ball a little bit, he averaged more than three targets per game last year and he can score a bunch of touchdowns. He's good. And the offense, I don't know if the offense is going to be great and they're going to score a bazillion points, but they'll be all right. And Connor will be a reason for it. You can handcuff them, Trey Benson, if you want to, It'll cost you a late round pick, not like some of these other running backs that are out there. And I kind of follow along with what Jamie was saying. There are other rookies that might have pockets of great games, and they might be in that same range as James Connor.

I just think Connor is safer. The biggest argument against Connor that I've heard is the grandma Gilmore argument. And I don't think that's good enough for somebody who's been as consistent as Connor's been. The grandma took me a second there. He's too old. He's, you know, by the way, just last note here, positive for him, Arizona finally had a good run blocking offense. They've been horrible. And he's been on one had a good run blocking offense. They've been horrible and he's been on one of the worst run blocking offenses for most of his career. I mean, in let's see, 23, 22 and 20, he had four straight years where James Connor was on a team that ranked 26th or lower in run blocking. Last year, PFF had them 14th, ESPN had them 11th and run block win rate. So finally, maybe a good offensive

line in front of him. And he averaged And if you look at the graphic on the screen with our rankings, like when you start to, you know, compare them to some of these other guys, at least this is where I come like they gave him a contract extension at the end of last year and they didn't do anything to upgrade their backfield this off season. Like that to me is a little telling that they're still very confident in him. And so it's not like, oh, Joe Mixon's coming off a strong here, he's 29, well, they just brought in somebody else and drafted another player. So there's a little bit of a concern. Not that I would take Conor over, well, I guess I would take Conor over Mixon this way.

Camero's same age and they bring in, again, more competition, another draft pick, another veteran that comes in. And this is the sliding scale, not to go through all these guys, but like, at least the Cardinals are sort of telling you like either they really love Trey Benson or they're really confident in James Connor. Okay. I think it could be both of those things. One other thing that I wanted to bring up is I think Arizona's defense is going

to be significantly better than it was last year. So for those people that care about those types of things and game script and how that might impact the workload for a running back, there could be more of those closer games that would favor Connor getting more work in a four minute drill, not playing from behind. Maybe that hurts his target volume, but it still keeps them on the field and keeps him a big part of Arizona's offense because Arizona's defense should be the best it's been under Jonathan Gannon. We will be right back to talk about the Lions wide receivers. Guess who's lower on them than the other two guys on this edition of Heath has, we'll be right back. Let's combine

a couple of players here. I was going to do Amanra St. Brown and Jamison Williams separately, but I think if we just look at Heath, you have St. Brown as wide receiver nine and Jamison Williams as wide receiver 39. Now this is full PPR. And comparatively, Dave Dave has same Brown as wide receiver for Jamie has him six. He has him ninth. Dave has Jamison is wide receiver 26, Jamie 28th and Heath 39th. So just not enough footballs to go around. I struggle. And I think I've already made an adjustment since maybe the last time you looked at this to Jamison Williams, cause Dan Campbell keeps talking so good about him.

But the problem that I see, and I think that you could have, old Adam even might have just said the lions for this entire show. Cause I'm also the low guy on Jemera Gibbs and I'm the low guy on San La Porta. But this is the team that's obviously scored more points and produced more yards than any team in football the last two seasons. And then they lost Ben Johnson and they lost their great center. And I don't think they're going to be as good offensively. The problem is with the Jamieson Williams increase in targets, or hopefully

I think both Dave and Jamie are expecting a bounce back in targets for same Laporta from last year. They have 11, 11 vacated targets from last year. They have six vacated rush attempts. They brought the entire band back and I expect the offense to be worse. So I have kind of just have to be lower on most of these guys. They've also run the second most plays the last two years, and now they've got a first time play caller, at least in the NFL.

So I think we probably see some decrease in their volume, some decrease in their scoring, some decrease in their efficiency. St. Brown is a pretty obvious touchdown regression candidate. He had 23 fewer targets last year and one more game, but scored two more touchdowns. If you give him his 2023 touchdown rate, he's wide receiver nine last year. If you give him his 2022 touchdown rate, he's wide receiver 15 last year.

And he also had an 82% catch rate, which is insane. Just completely insane for a wide receiver. If you, he loses at least 10 catches. If he has a 75% catcher catch rate, which is I think the best catch rate ever for a wide receiver. Target per out run rate went down from 30% in 2022, 28.5% in 2023, 25.7% in 2024. And I think I kind of made this case with Justin Jefferson too. Amon Rasen Brown was on pace for,

not on pace, he played 17 games, 142 targets. What did Justin Jefferson have? Something like that, right? Just had 153 targets. These are guys that in the past, we've seen them average 10 targets per game. So the competition, the target competition kind of matters a little bit on a lower level. It's not like they're busts.

No. Right. When you're comparing them to other round one picks, something to keep in mind. However, Dave, you don't have that concern with Amon Rasayn Brown. You have him as wide receiver four and you're the high guy just slightly on Jameson Williams at wide receiver 26. I do think Heath made some good points on St. Brown. And you could certainly argue him to be like wide receiver seven, putting them behind guys like neighbors and Nakua and Nico, other players, maybe they have an N somewhere in their name,

like those three. Look, he lost two targets per game last year and still averaged almost 19 PPR points per game. A year after he averaged just over 20 PPR points per game. Johnny Morton, I think he's called plays before. The dumbest thing he could do is remove opportunities from Amun Ra St. Brown, who's good everywhere on the field, has a high catch rate because his ADOT isn't crazy like Jameson Williams's is.

And I just, I think he's safe. I think he's just super safe to have as a candidate for 18 PPR points per game. Not necessarily sexier than that. I don't know if he can get back up into that 20-point range, but I don't know how many of these wide receivers can get into that 20-point range. I also think that Jamison Williams can, can win on efficiency. And you can talk about what Dan Campbell and other coaches say about Jamison Williams all off-season long. I care much more about the film on Jamison Williams from last year and how he grew as a player.

I'm hoping he takes another step there. And he averaged just over 6 targets per game last year. I don't think he can build on that. I think there's a better chance of Laporte getting more targets per game than Jamo. But Jamo can break you with one big play. And I like that, especially in the Lions offense, that has shown that they're going to do that. And I think Morton's going to call plays like that, especially in the Lions offense that has shown that. Going to do that. And I think Morton's going to call plays like that. And it's not all like 40 yard, 40 area yard throws to JMo.

He was taking slants to the house. He's an after catch guy too. So was St. Brown. St. Brown's just more of a complete wide receiver. Who's going to see a ton of targets. It's still going to get a lot of touchdowns.

Easy to take as a top five wide receiver. And Jamie. I think St. Brown is, you know, kind of just tried and true, you know, so whether you're expecting, you know, one of the shiny new toys of Malik neighbors or Brian Thomas to be better, maybe throw Nico Collins in there just because he hasn't done it consistently like these other guys are even Puka, I guess, based on age, you know, To say 18 points per game, 17 and a half, I'd be very surprised if he's lower than that and still gives you first round value.

So I think fourth through ninth, he's gonna go probably somewhere in that range almost consistently depending on how much you just want a safe first round pick versus let's say more of a boom or bust first round pick if you have a little bit of concern over those other guys. Jameson's really the more fascinating conversation because he could be a top 20 receiver.

I mean, if his targets go up and he remains as efficient as Dave's alluding to and the big plays are still there, he's such a game wrecker. There's so much to love about his upside. But again, start to stack him up to the guys. If you're looking at the graphic, look at whatever ADP you're checking, projections you're checking. Jamison versus Godwin coming off the injury and more target competition. Travis Hunter is such a wild card. May end up spending more time on defense than we anticipate.

Devante Smith was not awful last year but struggled last year when everybody was healthy. Zay Flowers, how many targets are you going to get? Calvin Ridley, new quarterback. This is kind of like this, again, this blob of wide receivers. I would take all the guys that we have ranked ahead of Jamison consensus-wise, Mike Evans, Marvin Harris, and DK Metcalf, Jerry Judy, Xavier Worthy, Garrett Wilson for sure, over Jamison Williams. But once you start to get those other guys, there's a lot of if this, if that, maybe

this, maybe that. And so for me, I'm banking on upside to have him as the 28th wide receiver. So he's a high end wide receiver three. I don't wanna get too excited about it, but again, he can be one of these guys that if the targets do increase to whatever level and whatever it does to Laporta or potentially St. Brown, what they're saying, I don't think is, is something that can't come to

fruition because of what he did in college, pre ACL terror, what his draft pedigree was and the flashes that he started to show, if he puts it all together, he could be a monster. And I will say like, if you want to disagree with me on the downgrading the lion's offense because of the changes, um, then the, the answer that's much easier to profit on right now is just draft Jared golf, because that's kind of the one thing we all agree on is Jared golf's not going to be as good as last year, um, in terms of fantasy production. And he's not being, he's the only one of these guys that's not being ranked or

drafted to be as good or better than they were last year. So if, if St. Brown maintains what he's done and JMo and Sam Laporta are better than what they've been, then you should be drafting a lot of Jared Goff. Well, I think also to that point though, like there's going to be one of the three that struggle. It's just, you know, nature of the beast, you know, so not, not factoring golf, like Jameson could increase his catches and yards and the touchdowns go just, you know, nature of the beast, you know, so not not factoring golf, like Jameson could increase his catches and yards and touchdowns go down, you know, St. Brown can

still be productive and his touchdowns go down, you know, like you could see any way this sort of, you know, sort of falters for these guys as it did for the border last year. You know, he was the one that that suffered a little bit because Jameson potentially was better. All right, guys, I'm gonna cut it off there. We'll save Mike Evans that debate for a different time. I want to read some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. You worried about the time of the show. I really wanted Jamie to make Jamie argue

for the old guy again. Oh, Mike Evans. I just thought it was it. Amon Rasain Brown I just thought it was it. I'm on St. Brown. Had two games last year with 13 or fewer yards. Isn't that insane? I mean, that's just that's just how many James Williams have. Oh, I'm going to guess zero. Let's see.

That's a good question. Jameson Williams, 13 or fewer receiving yards. Jameson Williams, show me. Oh, he had nine. He had negative four. He had to. He also had two. He must have gotten hurt in the Minnesota game though with one target and then you have to do Mike Evans. Why he's a thumbnail. Oh crap. All right. Mike Evans. Of course. I was dying to do

this. Mike Evans one Dave. You have him him as wide receivers What you should do moving forward is whenever Adam sends the notes makes the last person that come down He's pretty much does that like these it's pretty good at that Mike Evans wide receiver 17 for Dave 21 for Jamie 26 for Heath Dave go Mike Evans You're the high guy at wide receiver 17. I have a hard time finding wide receivers that I think can outscore Evans. If I assume Evans averages a James Connor-esque 15 PPR points per game. So the names that I struggle with are DJ Moore, Xavier Worthy, MHJ, McLaurin, uh, Coraline Sutton. Like these are all good wide receivers. They're all wide receiver twos.

I just, I, this is almost the same argument as counter. There's a solid track record there for Evans. He's going to get targets from Baker Mayfield. He's still going to be, uh, probably the top target getter in Tampa. He's just going to see all the targets get spread a little bit thin, but he gets plenty of touchdowns to help out there. I think he's slowing down. There's no doubt about that, but I still think he can be a factor. And I just, I can't find other receivers that I think have more upside than Evans. And they all have the same kind of downside. What's Evans' downside? It's probably around 13 PPR points per game. So does all the other receivers that I named. That's their downside, if not worse than that. So he's a settle for wide receiver too, in the middle of that range, barely a top 20 wide receiver for me, but someone that I'm very comfortable taking as a wide receiver

too. Yeah, he's to get the opposite end of the spectrum here. You're the low guy on him. He will be 32 years old week one. He was wide receiver 23 and six games with Godwin last year. The team drafted a Mecca Bocca and spent all of OTA is talking about how awesome he is. I think he's going to, he's going to be a touchdown dependent guy that has a couple of yardage spike weeks. And if Godwin is not ready for the start of the season, I will certainly move him up. But right now, I'm just kind of hedging on Godwin's health.

Because if Godwin's, like if a book is really this good and Godwin's healthy week one, I might still be too high on Evans in full PPR. All right, Jamie, you're kinda close to where Dave is. So again, on Mike Evans, Dave has him as wide receiver seven, yeah, you're right in the middle. Wide receiver 17 for Dave, 26 for Heath, and then the porridge might be just right at wide receiver 21 for Jamie.

It was 14.3 PPR points while he was averaging the first seven games because they both got injured in week seven. And then he had the big finish once he came back and there was no Chris Godwin. I think it's going to be an interesting situation. This could be a trade for trade away Mike Evans situation. If he gets off to a slow start, you might want to trade from at the end of the year because we've seen what happened in the final year with Tom Brady. We saw what happened last year. Like when they know he's close to a000 yards, they're going to give him the opportunity to go get that, you know, keep that record going.

So it could be a strong finish for him. But I'm just concerned. You know, he played it out. 32 years old, competition for targets is as tough as he's ever had. And he's talking about it. You know, he said this is the best wide receiver room he's ever been a part of, which makes a ton of sense after the way Jalen McMillan finished last year and what a Bucas draft capital is and obviously Godwin coming back.

And they paid Godwin. So I don't know if it's just more of a look to the future of, okay, this might be the end of Mike Evans' amazing Hall of Fame run. And they are planning for Abuka, McMillan, and whatever's left of Godwin to be their receiving core. He still should be their best receiver based on his pedigree, and as Dave said, he's been awesome. There have been some seasons in there, though, where it's been 1006 touchdowns. And I think

that's sort of realistic for what you should be expecting maybe 1008, you know, so still a top 20 caliber wide receiver, but I would just bank on some of the younger players hopefully hitting some of their upside more so that Evans continuing to do this in such a crowded receiving core at his age. Perfect. We've talked about Mike Evans. That's great.

And he'll be an interesting one for sure. Some people will be buying in. Some people will be staying away because of the age, the Godwin factor, a lot of moving parts there. The Godwin health is obviously going to be the big one and we'll reevaluate as we get close. Casuals will be all over Mike Evans. The people that don't do their draft homework,

they're gonna take him as a top 12 receiver. But you know what, Dave, sometimes, keep it simple, stupid, right? Sometimes the casuals, they don't overthink it and they get it right. Like we were wrong about Derek Henry last year and the casual, I don't wanna call them casuals. The fantasy community or the ADP was super high on

Derrick Henry and we just didn't really see it. So I don't want to just discount that sometimes maybe we look at too many things. And whereas Mike Evans just awesome every year. Although I really think the most important thing to note is that he was, as we said, 23rd the first six games of the year. And Chris Godwin was third, something like that. It was really, he was big time second fiddle to Chris Godwin. All right, we have something to celebrate here on Fantasy Football today, as I filibuster a little bit

to give Thomas some time to cue it up. But a big congratulations to our friend and colleague, Jamie Eisenberg. Jamie, what are we looking at here? Yay. This was our district championship. I think I brought it up last week that had to make a tough managerial decision

during one of the games. We ended up going undefeated, so we won the district championship. And now we go on to sectionals. So that'll be this weekend. If we win sectionals, we have a chance to because I'm assuming they're gonna be there. So this is the 13-U age group. The 12-U age group from the state of Florida was Lake Mary, which ended up winning the entire Little League World Series. Not just the state of Florida, not just the United States, the entire Little League World Series.

So we will end up running into them and I don't think we will have a chance against them, but you never know. In any event, they brought their entire team back. This is an entirely different team from the 12-year team for Boca last year, but it was fun. That's been a fun ride. Great group of kids, great group of families. You know, you're always excited when you have those situations. So let's hopefully we keep it going for at least one more tournament and then see what happens in the States. Very proud of you. Great work. Congratulations. Can I ask one question? Because that's a fantastic photo and great story. Jamie, how many players on your team would Adam's softball team happily trade him for?

Trade me for many? Trade him for? Oh, the entire group. Okay. I'm trying to think. I don't think we had, we had a throwing error in one game where, uh, one of the outfielders overthrew hit, didn't hit the cutoff man and overthrew, uh, catcher, uh, very short backstop backstop. So runner only advanced one base, but otherwise we're pretty sound defensively. Um, they all will definitely hit better than Adam.

That's without a question. Yeah. Um, yeah. So probably the entire group. Okay. Oh yeah. That's, but I really feel like they're probably better than most of my team. I mean, these are great, great players here at 13. So you could see, uh, so my son is the one directly in the middle behind the,

uh, the young man holding the plaque. So he's, as Heath can tell, you know, he's already taller than me. And then the young man on the end who, uh, through, by the way, amazing performance, threw a no-hitter, set a strikeout record for districts. I think he had 17 strikeouts. It was just completely dominant on the far left side of your looking at the screen.

They're bigger than that. They're already bigger than Adam. So they would definitely be better than Adam already. And someone pointed out in our chat, because someone, they were describing us and Jamie is wearing a hat in this picture. Jamie wears a hat every day. Jamie is a hat guy.

He claims he only wears it once a week. That's during the season. I never said in the off season, during the season, I only wear a hat once a day, which is Wednesday. Once a day. Once a week. Once a week.

First thing in the morning. All right, let's read some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This one comes from Paul from Sydney, Australia. He never misses a show. I was listening to you guys talk about tuna fish. I've never got this one.

It's tuna, just tuna. Why tuna fish? Is it salmon or salmon fish? Chicken or chicken bird? Also, Adam, I'm pumped to go all in on Christian McCaffrey as I chase back to back championships. He's got a good point on both of those things. Tuna fish, anything else can we think of like that?

I don't think I say tuna fish. Tuna salad. We must've said tuna fish on the show the other day. I'm gonna guess it was Dan. It was probably Dan. That sounds right. Yeah, yeah. Okay, This is from

it Oh From Eric right dear Axel Billy John Jenny and chief Hubbard Beverly Hills cop correct. Well done each year changes at quarterback create new opportunities for players that the general public think are not worthy of being drafted. I know this usually falls into sleepers, but with changes at quarterback in places like Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, New York, and others, are there opportunities specific to the change in the new quarterback style of play that could take a younger wide receiver, tight end or pass catching back that's been ignored for fantasy purposes and make them relevant. So the example he gave in the email was one that I,

I don't think I'm going to agree with. He was really just throwing it out there. He was saying like Jaylen Hyatt, you know, with Russell Wilson. I don't think Jaylen Hyatt has a chance. Maybe Slayton does, but the point is any quarterback change that creates a sleeper or a deep sleeper in your mind. To start in Pittsburgh, Aaron Rogers is there. We know that he loves,

we've talked about this. I'm sure you guys talked about the Jaylen Warren news last week. Rogers loves to throw everything at his top receiver. Should be good for DK Metcalf. everything at his top receiver, should be good for DK Metcalf. And Jaylen Warren might be getting a bigger opportunity. I'm pretty sure that Rodgers, Rodgers threw like, I want to say like a 19.9% target rate to his running backs last year, and the Steelers were well over 20% in target rate to running backs. Russell Wilson was like checking it down all the time to Warren and Najee. I think that kind of gives a little bit more life to Warren and it keeps Metcalf in that wide receiver three range, kind of that same range that I've got Jamison Williams in. And that's probably it, maybe Firemuth a little bit,

but that's the first team that came to my mind where there was a quarterback change that should help their players get better from where they were a year ago. I don't know if it's necessarily like a significant change per se, but if Joe Flacco is the starter, to me it's, you know, the two obvious guys, Cedric Tillman is going to be somebody that I have a lot of interest in, you know, with a late round pick. Clearly Judy is going to have a chance for a solid season and obviously N'Joko, we've already seen that rapport. But Tillman in the first three games without Amari Cooper,

two of those were with Jameson Winston. He looked the part finally, and then he got hurt and couldn't get back on track. He's easily locked in as the number two receiver there. And I think there's huge upside with Flack was started. Geno should be studied as well. with Flaco as a starter. Geno should be studied as well. It make, yeah. Um, I would say, because like nobody's, nobody's looking at Brock Bowers and saying he's going to get better. Right.

I think everybody's looking at Bowers. If you're, if you have a take on Bowers, it's more like he's going to get worse. Right. Right. But what does it mean for Myers and, uh, is he going to throw to the running back more than we want or expect less? It's probably something we should be looking into or should have looked into. By the way, I would say if cam ward is passible, I have no idea who's going

to be second on that team and targets. So if there is someone who's a clear number two in the pecking order and cam wards passable as a rookie, then a sleeper wide receiver for the Titans makes sense. Really? It'll be there. There's so many options too. Cause the way thatig finished the season last year, he was on fire, but now they add another tight end that could be better than him in helm. You have the two rookie receivers that you know may have huge opportunities. So part of that story that I wrote, the guy that

I used for the Titans was Lockett, you know, and just here he comes, you know, older receiver that hasn't been good for two years, but huge opportunity. I'm trying to make a funny joke. I know you're trying to make you know the joke I'm making. Are you going to do the sound bite and say, Alec? No, I said Ridley is going to be second and Tar gets behind of course, Xavier Restrepo. Yeah, there we go.

Where's my there it is. Thank you. Thank you. All right. This one. He's had a good off season by the way. He's a good player. He's making the team. Yeah. He's a good player. I mean, he's not going to lead the team of targets.

All right. Zach from a small town, 30 minutes north of Charlotte. I think Asheville is too far away. So I'll say Asheville. Dear John, Jake, Bo and Tim. Broncos quarterbacks. Oh, nice. He doesn't get Beverly Hills cop, but he gets that one very well. This is a football podcast.

He's a lions fan in Beverly Hills. All right. So long running league with odds scoring. Every 20 yards rushing or receiving is a point, 20 yards. Every 75 passing yards is a point. For one to nine yard touchdowns, six points. 10 to 39 yard touchdowns, nine points. 40 plus yard touchdowns, 12 points. If a quarterback runs or catches a touchdown, it's double points.

If a running back throws or catches a touchdown, it's double points. If a running back throws or catches a touchdown, it's double points. If a wide receiver throws or runs a touchdown, it's double points. So running quarterbacks and pass catching, running backs have higher value as well as big play guys. How much would this affect your rankings? Should Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson be first round picks

in this format? Yes. I would say so. I think Jalen hurts too. I mean, you got, you're gonna like, you're not going to be hurt nearly as much by the passing yardage totals because it's 75 yards per point. And he's going to have some long touchdowns. I don't know if they count for quarterbacks too. Um, and he's going to run for a lot of touchdowns. So for, yeah, this change, this changes a lot. This changes. Uh, yeah. All the running quarterbacks, but I think Jalen hurts benefits. I mean,

I could argue he benefits more than anyone from this because he's not going to have the passing yards. Yeah. Okay. Here's a Josh, an avid listener of both FFT and FFT dynasty. Thanks Josh. And where's he from Dave? Josh is from Nassau, Bahama. I have a handful of rookie running backs because I have a horrific, excuse me, running back room. So I'm hoping I can get at least one guy to hit.

I've got six players. I have four open taxi spots and I'm using one for sure on Jalen Milrow. Which of three players would you taxi and which would you stash? Which of these three would you taxi and which would you stash? DJ Giddens,

Brichard Smith, Jordan James, Jacori Kroski-Merritt, Devin Neal, Kyle Menongai. Jackori Krosky Merritt, Devin Neal, Kyle Menongai. You have to make that decision now? For the sake of this show, yes.

I think easy, the Washington running backs good taxi squad guy. I think he's keeping all these, right? He's not cutting them. Yeah, yeah. Jacori Kroski-Merritt and Jordan James are you guys just mentioned, right? I mean, they should be taxied or no? I would probably, if you have to make the decision now,

I'd probably not do it with James just because of any setback from McCaffrey. So I would probably eat that. Would that be why you would wanna have James you would want to have James. I want to have James as a non-taxi squad. So yeah. So you stash them or you taxi them and taxi them. You can't use them. Right. Taxi would be, you can't use them

unless you have to make another switch. Is that what taxi? Yeah. I don't think we know. Let's, could I suggest a change to how we answer this Adam? Yeah. One guy that you would want on your active roster. One guy that you're willing to cut.

Fair enough. Taxi for the rest. He's got to cut these guys. I'm sorry. No, he doesn't have to cut any of them. Well, we don't know that he says, I know I can't keep all these guys on my roster. He has four open taxi spots. Does that mean he has to drop one of them?

Does that mean he has to keep two of them on the active roster? No, I think he's got just four spots where you can stash a rookie. That's why I suggested the difference because then we'd say who we'd definitely keep on our regular roster if that's the choice. And we'd say who we'd definitely drop if that's the choice. Okay, fair. I'm taking it to mean that he can stash these guys. It's like what we have. But even if you're right, if he, even if you're right, I see what he's saying. He's four guys, you're not going to use and two guys you want to use. Or like I, Manon guy is the guy I would be most likely to cut. And I would need the three running backs that you want to keep in stash and see what happens

for this year and potentially keep on your roster all of next off season. Who are they? I don't think he's cutting these guys. No, because he's putting them on his taxes. I know. What are the priorities here? Okay. Who are the ones that we wanted that we that who are the priorities with the I want to

hold on to Giddens for sure. And I don't remember all the names. I'm sorry. Yeah, Giddens. I would want James, probably Krosky-Merritt, and for now, Devin Neal over Mononguy, but I wonder if Mononguy ends up being a decent factor on that Bears roster. James, Merritt, Neal.

Yeah, I go back and forth between Smith and Kroski Merritt, but James and Neal are definitely my top two. Okay. Yeah, I would go Giddens and Neal's my top two. All right, great stuff. So that was fun, bud. All right, we're out of here. We'll talk to you.

We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. See ya. See ya.