Fantasy Football Today - Rankings Disputes! Ridley vs. RBs, Hurts vs. Herbert and More (02/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: February 16, 2021

2021 rankings are out and we're ready for our first round of disputes. Let's start with Calvin Ridley vs. Round 2 RBs (3:45). Should you grab the stud WR or gravitate towards RBs like Aaron Jones, D'Andre Swift and David Montgomery? Then we'll celebrate National Pancake Day (14:45), give you a TV recommendation and get into some news and notes (17:00) including the latest on the Eagles trade chips ... Rankings disputes on Miles Sanders (21:21), Chris Carson (25:30), Jeff Wilson (29:14) and the Top 3 TEs (33:33). Should all 3 stud TEs be drafted in Round 1? ... Finishing the show with five more rankings debates (40:00) covering J.D. McKissic, Chase Claypool, Jarvis Landry, Mecole Hardman and Jalen Hurts ... Your emails at [e-mail] Subscribe to the FFT in 5 podcast on Apple, Spotify, Google, or wherever you listen to FFT. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @CTowersCBS, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. 2021 rankings disputes here in mid-February, baby. We've got plenty of time to change these, but let's get started. Today on the show, Calvin Ridley is a top five wide receiver for both Dave and Jamie. But if you look at the overall top 200, he's top 15 for Dave. He's just inside the top 30 for Jamie.

What's going on there? We're going to debate Jalen Hurts, Chris Carson, Miles Sanders, many, many more. We welcome you to the show. This is Fantasy Football Today on a Tuesday morning. Hope you enjoyed your holiday weekend. Hope you have power, and hope you're ready for rankings debates.

I will introduce Dave and Jamie and Chris Towers in just a moment. I will start, though, with the very unfortunate, very tragic and sad news, and shocking to see that Vincent Jackson has passed away at age 38. So we just want to remember him here at the beginning of fantasy football today.

The most important thing I saw was that he was nominated for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award four times in a row with Tampa Bay, and that is quite a legacy. Six straight 1,000-yard seasons, if you exclude 2010 when he played in only five games. And he had a stretch 2009, 11, 12, 13. That was four straight full seasons

where he finished top 15, top 16 in PPR. He was top 10 in non-PPR in three of those four seasons. He was a stud. I certainly remember having him on some fantasy teams and just huge games from him. Big plays, great receiver, and we will miss him. It's very sad news. I'll throw it over to Dave,

Jamie, and Chris. Dave, anything you want to say about Vincent Jackson? I remember when he came on the scene with the Chargers. Here's this big strong dude who could run. You guys know how much I loved Phillip Rivers. This was Phillip Rivers' big-time target for many years with the Chargers. So it was exciting to watch him then, and then he grew into a superstar.

He went to Tampa Bay, did a lot of great stuff there. But you mentioned his off-the-field stuff. He did a lot for military families off the field. He had his own restaurant in the Tampa Bay area. He did a lot for the Tampa Bay community. And so they were, they were pretty shocked by, by this news. And, you know, I'm thinking about his family, thinking about all of his fans. He made fantasy football fun for lots of people and he'll be missed greatly. Yeah. Just nice guy. I mean, I got a chance

to talk to him several times. Uh, um, just always gracious with his time thoughtful answers uh you talk to anybody who's who's covered him um they'll tell you the same thing you know just uh a good guy you know it's a really unfortunate situation so like dave said you know our condolences to his his family and obviously the tampa bay and and chargers families as well um just uh you know it sucks it sucks when any life is taken too soon. 38 is obviously way too short of a life for a guy who seemed to have a lot going for him. Yeah, just echo what those two guys said.

It's just really sad to see. Yeah, one of the people that so many people around the NFL are saddened and offering condolences. Mike Evans is one of them. They were teammates. Pretty similar players. You look at the consistency, 1,000 yards year after year. He was basically his role model.

Right, right. His legacy will live on, I think, in Mike Evans, who probably learned a lot from Vincent Jackson. All right. Well, welcome again, everyone. We'll get to the fantasy football content here. Let's start with what I was talking about with Calvin Ridley. Okay. So if you look at the top 200 lists, which is available now on CBSSports.com, and even if you look at PPR, it seems like Jamie, at least compared to Dave, has more running backs in the mid-round two range, right? Because Calvin Ridley, for example, like I said, he's a top five wide receiver for both of them. But for Jamie, Ridley is overall,

he is 27th, I believe? 29th in non-PPR, 27th in PPR. And for Dave, he's 15th or 16th. And that's just because you've got, Jamie, you've got guys like Cam Akers, Aaron Jones, DeAndre Swift, Miles Sanders, Josh Jacobs, Joe Mixon, Chris Carson, Antonio Gibson, David Montgomery, all of those running backs ahead of Calvin Ridley. And Dave doesn't. So my first question, Jamie, is who hacked into our servers and switched your rankings?

This is very unusual here, but go ahead and talk about, I guess, why you have those running backs ahead of your number five wide receiver. I mean, receiver is just so deep, you know, and I don't see that big of a difference right now, especially given the fact that Julio Jones is going to still be on the Falcons roster between Calvin Ridley, who I have at five, Michael Thomas, who hopefully will get a good quarterback situation at six. Keenan Allen at seven with his quarterback situation. A.J. Brown at eight.

Justin Jefferson at nine. D.K. Metcalf at ten. It's just such a loaded position. And so I think when you have the opportunity to get these caliber of workhorse running backs and clearly where Aaron Jones and Chris Carson end up, we'll change that. And David Montgomery may drop behind Calvin Ridley, who I have ahead of him right now. Um, I just think you got to get those, those caliber of, of running backs when they're available to you. And those first two rounds, I think is where it's going to happen. Plus I have the three tight ends in the first two rounds, Kelsey in round one and Waller and Kittle at the end of round two.

So I love Calvin Ridley. I think he's a great player. If you want to take him around too, please be my guest. He's going to deliver quality production. But if you tell me that Ridley goes from the fifth receiver to the 11th receiver, still going to have a great season, but it wouldn't shock me at all. Given the guys that are behind him. I just think you get those running backs and they're available to you. And those first two rounds are going to be where they live. And that's usually how I feel about running backs too. I just look at Calvin Ridley and I think he's a very safe fantasy receiver. He was top five in any of the big three categories I look at for wide outs and PPR.

So fantasy points per game, overall raw points and consistency. He was doing it all. And we were worried about him not being super productive without Julio Jones last year. Turned out he did a great job as the wide receiver one for Atlanta. And he was great with Julio too. So I still feel like he's got plenty of, I don't know about plenty of upside to do better than he did last year, but I think he can get there. And I just view him as, as one of the safest things. And you compare him to an Aaron Jones. We don't know where Jones is playing. We don't know if he's going to be the workhorse, the one a who knows what the one The one guy that I do have ranked behind him who probably should be ahead of him is Cam Akers.

I think Akers is a guy who's probably got that workhorse role locked up in L.A., situation getting better in L.A. I could see myself taking him ahead of Calvin Ridley. Probably could see him taking him ahead of Stephon Diggs, too. But Ridley is just one of those guys when you look at the running backs and you're not quite sure what to do and you're not ready to take a tight end early and you're not going to take my homes early you go to receiver it's safest position he's the safest guy that among he's among the safest guys that'll be there for you in round two okay but you know you're talking about taking a guy like cam acres over him and we we were

thinking i think last time we spoke about acres we were thinking maybe around 35 catches um unless i'm confusing him with someone else we were talking about but we when we talked about Akers, we were thinking maybe around 35 catches, unless I'm confusing him with someone else we were talking about. When we talked about Akers, we talked about how 70% of his PPR points came from yardage and not from catches and not from touchdowns. Well, Ridley, he played 15 games. You give him a 16-game

pace, he's got 96 catches. So are you really willing to give up 60 catches basically to take a running back there? 60 PPR points? Do you want to answer this one, Jamie? Oh, I think it's safer. There's no doubt about it.

Ridley's going to be the pick that you feel more comfortable with if you want to go that route. But again, you get to the receivers, I'm sure, that we all have ranked and for Chris projected. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 25, they're probably safer as well. You know, so it's, it's just a matter of, you know, where the upside lies in building your team. And so how do you want to go about constructing your roster? And so that's what it is for me. I'm taking the player that's going to help me the most in that position, as opposed to the safer play in some cases, but it's all about what your comfort level is. You know, if you want to play the safe route, you should go receiver receiver. I mean, that's the safer play

in most cases. But I think, again, you're looking at where the position scarcity is going to come. It's always going to be at running back. It's always going to be trying to find these guys that give you the opportunity. And obviously, I mean, I said it, Dave echoed it. Aaron Jones and Chris Carson in particular are going to be two guys along with a handful of other guys that are probably going to get some competition that I have ranked ahead of these receivers that will alter this by the time we get past the NFL draft. This is just what I feel about these guys right now and where they end up. Like I said, you tell me who the quarterback is for Chicago. Is Tariq Cohen still on the team? David Montgomery goes behind Calvin Ridley. Chris Carson

goes behind Calvin Ridley if he's in a tandem situation. Aaron Jones, if the Raiders bring in an upgrade over Devante Booker and Jalen Rashard, he goes behind Calvin Ridley. So by the time we get to August, Calvin Ridley could be in my top 20. So it's just a matter of, again, what you're looking at in terms of how you want to go about building your team. Safety-wise is always going to be the receivers. It's the same thing we say with the first five picks and where the, where Devante Adams should go, where Travis Kelsey should go. It's why Chris likes the tight ends as high as he does,

because if those guys hit, they're better served to help you from a floor standpoint, but the ceiling at the respective positions for those other guys is a different story. Okay. But let me just get Chris in it because it's not just a floor play here with Calvin Ridley. I mean, you're talking about, he was on pace for 1,466 yards and 10 touchdowns.

But again, it's, it's, it's comparing him to different positions. That's the thing. When you say sacrificing 60 catches, obviously unless we're talking about the top three or four backs, the Christian McCaffrey's and Dalvin Cooks and those caliber of players, they're not going to catch the same amount of passes as other guys. What I'm counting on with Cam Akers is the fact that Matthew Stafford is there. There is the chance for 35 catches.

But now you're talking about less stacked defenses, better scoring chances. If he's getting 20 carries or 20 touches, I like that opportunity better than what Calvin Ridley will give me, even though I know he'll catch more passes and is safer. All right, Chris, what do you think about basically the number five wide receiver compared to these running backs who are not the total studs, but are still worthy of a second round pick? What's your take on this whole situation? It's not that different than what I have in my rankings.

I have my number five wide receivers different. I have Michael Thomas, but I yeah, he's my number 23 player overall. And I think the biggest thing is yet something somewhat that, you know, the wide receivers are a little safer, but running backs might have higher ceilings. That's part of it. But for me, the biggest thing is just that this year, more than I think any year I can remember, there aren't that many running backs in that Le'Veon Bell coming into 2020 mode where it's, well, he's going to get 250 touches. And so he's going to get, there's actually a lot of guys who are really exciting in this running back pool. It's a lot of guys who are young primarily, but also a lot of guys who have three down skills. And that's not something that we've been used to seeing. And so, you know, I think you look through the running back rankings and some of the guys I have ahead so, you know, I think you look through the running back rankings and some of the guys I have ahead of, you know, my top five wide receivers.

Ridley's actually number six, a little further down. But it's guys like Jonathan Taylor and DeAndre Swift and Antonio Gibson who are right in a row between, what is that, 15 and 17 for me. And you've got Joe Mixon and and David Montgomery right after that and so it's a lot of guys who we think should have a ton of carries but also should be involved in the passing game I'm a little lower on some of the specifics like I don't have Cam Akers all as high as either of you two do but for the part, I think that the general idea is true that the running back group this year

just looks so much more promising than it has in years past. It's not... Isn't that a reason to take Ridley in round two instead of a running back then? Or are you saying they'll all be gone by round two? The receiver position is so deep, though. I mean, Ridley is awesome.

I don't want to make this an anti-Ridley conversation. It's more about there's 10 other guys that can give you within 15, 20 points of him by the end of the season. And I think a bigger part of it is just that running back does have – it's all relative. Running back does have more of those guys this year than we're used to, but I think there's a drop-off right around 25 or 26 at the running back position. I think it's sooner. What's that?

I think it's sooner than that, unfortunately, right now. Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on, like, I like Melvin Gordon and I like Chris Carson but this offseason could definitely change how I feel about both of those guys uh Ronald Jones is another one James Connor there's a lot of guys who I think could but it's it's in the 20 to 25 range maybe where you start to run out of the young guys with that three down roll and once you get past there it's really gross and you don't want one of those guys as certainly your number one, but even your number two, because there's just,

it's a lot harder to talk yourself into Kareem Hunt or Kenyon Drake or Devin Singletary turning into one of those guys. And those are the guys who are, you know, kind of immediately after that group. And so for me, it's more that running back is deeper at the top than usual, but there's still that steep drop-off, whereas wide receiver, it's just a gradual slope all the way down. Okay, and we'll, of course, have a different landscape

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A couple things to celebrate today. International Pancake Day. Bah, bah, bah. Yeah. Ooh, that reminds me. Yeah? What is it right here? It reminds me of some awesome French toast

that I had over the weekend. Bananas Foster French toast. It was really good. That does sound good. Every Sunday, I make pancakes. They're so good, they require no syrup. They are banana, strawberry, and blueberry pancakes. We don't even take the syrup out of the refrigerator.

That's how good they are. They do require butter, but love me some pancakes Sunday. That's interesting good they are. They do require butter, but love me some pancakes Sunday. That's interesting. Well, in the pan. In the pan. Oh, I thought you were putting butter on your fruity pancakes. No, no, no. Just in the pan. Just to cook. If you guys are ever in the Dania Beach area, there's a place called the Bake Shack.

My wife went. She went back home last week and she got some pancakes there. It's the best pancakes I've ever had in my life before I left South Florida. I made the mistake of not going back before I left. So I would check that out. Jamie, order some pancakes. What are you getting? Oh, it depends. You know, you get pancakes for dessert.

Chocolate chip pancakes are great. You could have fruit pancakes are the best in the morning. So next time I'm at your house, you better make them. Yeah pancakes are the best in the morning. So next time I'm at your house, you better make them. Yeah, but mine are in the batter. Okay, I'm not pouring fruit on top of the pancake. No, no, of course. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're all yours. And I did tease this a few weeks ago. I said I started a show that was great. And I wasn't going to say what it was until I finished because I didn't want anybody to spoil it for me. But I am finished now with the show Kingdom. It is now on Netflix.

It was originally on DirecTV. Apparently it had a very small but loyal following. If you search for Kingdom on Netflix, it is the MMA one, not the one about an Asian dynasty. It is so good. It is the kind of show you will binge watch in a few weeks, 40 episodes, most of them about 45 minutes.

Loved it. Highly, highly recommend. Bring back kingdom. And Jamie has binged Ozark in the meantime. And that's another one you should watch. Fantastic. Unbelievable.

And Chris doesn't like violent shows, so he doesn't get to take part in this discussion. No, I don't watch anything. You don't watch anything? I just don't watch anything. All right, let's do some news and notes here. The Colts offered two second-round picks for Carson Wentz, according to Ron Jaworski.

We are still waiting for Wentz to be moved. He could be moved with Zach Ertz. That'd be great. There's that. It would be. All right, let's say Ertz goes to the colts let's say okay let's make this trade wentz and earths to the colts i'm clapping a lot right now uh who do you rank higher zach earths or dallas goddard goddard i think i would go earths it would depend on you know do they still keep all the other three tight ends

that they had on their roster last year who were all of them? Trey Burton or free agents. Yeah, that's the key. And they can move on from Doyle. But I would lean Hurts first blush. Okay. Because Goddard was not very good with Jalen Hurts. You know, really, I don't think anybody was.

He had the targets with Hurts. They just, and there were end zone targets in there too. They just couldn't connect. And we don't know what this new offense, how tight end friendly it's going to be. And Hurts was playing in some of those games, if not all four. Well, you know, he played, he didn't play,

okay, Goddard didn't play week 17, but in three games then with... Neither did Hurts. Neither did the Eagles. Neither did the Eagles. In three games with Jalen Hurts, Goddard had right around 40 yards and no touchdowns in every game. 43, 39, and 38 yards.

The Texans released J.J. Watt. I hadn't heard. Yeah, the Pouncey twins retired. Are they twins? Yes. Okay. The Pouncey brothers twins retired. At Florida, they were so good, they were triplets.

There you go. Trevor Lawrence is going to have left shoulder surgery, and he's going to be out four to five months, so he's going to have a different offseason than other rookies. Chris, does that bother you with Trevor Lawrence? I mean, it's not his throwing shoulder, but just the lack of offseason work. We saw just killed everybody this past offseason, right?

But anyway, does this shoulder surgery bother you when you look at Lawrence and the Jaguars passing game? I think that kind of thing will probably be more of an issue this year when defenses have their normal offseason, so offense won't have such an edge early on in the season like they did this year. But we'll see what that means. Does it mean he's not throwing at all until training camp,

or does he get some work in? But I'm not too concerned right now. All right, who could be cut? Well, the Raiders are going to release Tyrell Williams. Sammy Watkins, the Chiefs are going to try to re-sign him. No. Mikko Hardman is in our ranking disputes. Jamison Crowder could get released,

according to ESPN's Rich Cimini. The Athletic, Tory McElhaney of The Athletic doesn't expect the Falcons to re-sign Todd Gurley. And Tampa Bay nearly cut Leonard Fournette in December. That was quite a story. He wasn't really getting the playing time. He was inactive one game. And I guess he just wasn't thrilled.

And it's a good thing he stuck it out because he had a case to be Super Bowl MVP. Had an amazing Super Bowl win. And probably made himself a lot of money. Real quick. He might have just made himself another contract. I don't know himself a lot of money. Real quick. He might have just made himself another contract. I don't know about a lot of money.

Well, even if it's like a low contract, it's a lot of money, right? Yeah, right. We have a listener. His name is Jack. He's nine years old. He's a big fan. He recorded a podcast for a class project. It was really good. He's really into football.

He's really into fantasy football. Shout out to Jack. Thanks for sharing that podcast episode with us. I'm glad we got a chance to listen. Good luck to you. You will be in this industry in, I don't know, 15 years. I was thinking

more like 15 weeks. We're going to have his agent call us. Yeah, he's nine years old. He's nine, so legally nine more years, he'll be taking your job. Nine more, that's it. Seven more years, 16. He only has to be 16.

Nine more years, he'll be an intern for us. And then 10 years, he'll have my job. All right. And then 12 years, he'll be our boss. There you go. Rankings disputes. Let's start with Miles Sanders. Not so different in the rankings,

but Dave, you are the low guy on Miles Sanders. Although I got to be honest, I don't know where Chris has Miles Sanders, but Jamie's got him 13th. Heath has him 12th. Dave, you have him 18th, 19th in PPR. So a little bit lower on Miles Sanders, a little bit lower now.

Go ahead, Dave. Yeah, I just, I loved him last year. I felt like, obviously, he didn't come through for fantasy managers. He regressed as a pass catcher. Now there's a new offense, new philosophies. Are we sure he's going to be the workhorse? The coaches that were, you know, calling him the feature back, they're not in Philadelphia anymore.

Has he done enough to impress the new coaches that are there? So I'm nervous. I don't want to overrate him. I don't want to put him ahead. For example, I don't want to put him ahead of Calvin Ridley. I would much rather have Ridley and the safety net of getting a receiver with 18 PPR points per game, something like that, versus Sanders, who could disappoint us again. Chris, where are you on Miles Sanders? I appear to be the high guy. I have him 11th at the position, which I don't feel super comfortable with.

That's just ahead of where Jamie and Heath have him. They've got him 13th and 12th. So some guys that Jamie has Miles Sanders ahead of that Dave doesn't would be Josh Jacobs, Clyde Edwards, Elair way ahead, Joe Mixon, Antonio Gibson, guys like that. Jamie,

what's your confidence level with Miles Sanders who on a per game basis, he did miss four games. On a per game basis, he was 19th in non-PPR, 21st in PPR. Yeah, I'm buying all the way back in.

I mean, offensive line getting healthy is going to be huge for him. You know, I expect him to be the workhorse there because that's not a position they're going to have to invest a lot in, especially with salary cap issues being what they are. I think he's going to have an opportunity to bounce back in a huge way with Jalen Hurts, who, as we know, running quarterbacks open up running lanes. I think we'll throw to him enough based on what the offense philosophy will be there.

So give me all the Miles Sanders and early round two that I could possibly take. I think it's going to be a huge season for him in 2021. Okay. Any final thoughts? He'll move up a spot if Aaron Jones doesn't. I have Aaron Jones

ranked ahead of him right now. He'll move up a spot if Jones doesn't get a good job. Sure. Same with me. Jones would fall behind him there. There were two games out of the four with Hurts

where he did put up good numbers. So the point that Jamie makes about Hurts being friendly for running backs, rushing running backs, was I really about to say that? It's a plus for him. I'm just not sure he's going to get that type of work that we started to see last

season. I don't think he's going to get 50 catches, do you, with Jalen Hurts at quarterback? Yeah, I think that number's in jeopardy. He was a disappointment in the passing game last year, and I wonder if that I think that number's in jeopardy. And I also just, he was a disappointment in the passing game last year, and I wonder if that takes him off the field in certain situations.

He was horrible in the passing game, which is really sad because... He was great as a rookie. Well, not just that he's got so much talent. We had, were you on with us, Dave, when Brian Westbrook came on on Twitch? And he said that Miles Sanders had to work on getting his hands right when he was running routes.

He's one of two running backs who had 50 or more targets and didn't catch a touchdown. The other was Devin Singletary. Yeah, that was both of them, I think, were him and Carson Wentz. It was a bit of both. At one point late in the season,

I think after Wentz was benched, I went through and watched basically every target. And it was like the balls that weren't caught, it was about 50-50 between whether it was Wentz's fault or whether it was Miles Sanders' fault. Carson Wentz, they just weren't on the same page. There were a couple of dropped touchdowns.

And especially on those, the big thing for me is whether the downfield roll comes back because that was what was so interesting about him in 2019 was they were throwing him balls 15, 20, 25 yards down the field, and that basically disappeared after about week five this year. I think he dropped. It might have been in the Ravens game, I think they played, where he dropped a sure touchdown on the right side of the field.

And I think it was like after that, he didn't. He might not have had another downfield target all season. And so that's going to be a big thing. All right, let's go to another running back. Similar story here. Dave lower than Jamie, but actually Heath is the lowest on Chris Carson. So whereas Miles Sanders was about 13th for Jamie, 18th for Dave, Chris Carson is 17th for Jamie, 23rd for Dave.

And Chris, I'll actually give you the first word. Where are you on Chris Carson, who's been a very consistent running back in terms of points per game? Let me see. In the last three seasons, he's been about, I think, 12th to 15th in points per game. Where do you fall on Chris Carson? I've got him 20th, but it's a strong 20. I think there's

a lot to like about him. I think there's a little bit of a tier after him. And the biggest question for me is just workload. I don't have a lot of questions about whether he's going to be good. He catches passes. He's effective. He gets in the end zone. They like him. It's really just

a question of, can you project him for more than 200 carries? Among the guys in my top 27, it looks like him and Austin Eckler are the only ones I don't have projected for 200 carries, but obviously Austin Eckler might catch twice as many passes as Chris Carson. So I think Carson's going to be effective when he's on the field. But injuries are always a concern. And whether they bring in some competition or whether Rashad Penny comes back and they start to interview him. We don't know where he's playing. Right, right, right.

He's a free agent. It's all dependent on where he goes. So if he goes back to Seattle, then you know what you're getting. If he goes to Atlanta, if he goes to the Jets, two preferred destinations for a lot of running backs right now, he's going to get an opportunity to play a big role. He could go to a team like Miami where he could get an opportunity for a big role, or he can go to a crappy situation where he's going to share with somebody

because they think he's an upgrade over whoever they may have. Buffalo, for example, they decide to invest in a running back, and then you're talking about maybe three guys that you have to be concerned about, or Tampa Bay. And he's sharing with, with the Ronald Jones that they don't bring back for net and they don't really love Keyshawn Vaughn. So there's going to be a lot of teams,

for example, in the mix. But if Chris Carson gets one of these premier jobs, Atlanta, the jets, for example, I'm going to be all in. If he doesn't,

then it's something to be concerned about. If you stay in Seattle, I think you're talking about a very good number two running back that you're taking in round two. It is a little weird to hear anyone refer to the Jets as a premier job. But no, but I'm serious. Do you really have that much confidence in the

Jets being a good fantasy destination for a running back in 2021? If they pick the right quarterback, I think the offensive line is going to be one of the better ones in the league. And I'm not talking about top five. i think top half of the league so uh you started to see signs of that last year that you have a coaching staff in place right now that i think is going to be an upgrade and i don't think that's saying very much but i do think you're coming from

a situation in san francisco that's going to be run based and and whichever running back but it wouldn't surprise me if they go and try and get Aaron Jones, you know, just from the low floor connection. So if it's, if it's a rookie, you know, they, they can go that route. They have a backend first round pick in the NFL draft. So, you know, Najee Harris and Travis Etienne, you know, are certainly on the table. Those two guys would be fantastic as well. But if, if they are in the market to sign a running back, which I think would make some sense to help a young quarterback,

if that's the route that they go, then Carson Jones, Fournette, any of these guys that are going to be available are going to be attractive going to the Jets. And I think the Jets will probably try and go cheap at running back. If they go in free agency, remember where did Robert Sala and LaFleur come from San Francisco? What did they do in San Francisco? They used a lot of running backs and they did it on the cheap. So I wouldn't expect them to drop a big bag with a dollar sign on it straight out of the cartoons and Aaron Jones lap and saying, come be our feature back. I think they're probably going to end up having two or three different

guys that make it frustrating for fantasy. But Jamie's right about the offensive line. That's a line that's on the rise. All right. So let's go transition to Jeff Wilson. Then since we're on the subject of 49ers running backs. Dave, you've got him 21st at running back. Jamie's got him 30th. Heath's got him a little bit lower than that.

32nd in non-PPR, 35th in PPR. Not a ton of opportunity for him, but he certainly took advantage when they gave it to him. Tell me where you are on Jeff Wilson. Why do you have him in your top 24? 21st overall at running back right now. What needs to happen for him to stay there?

He just needs to be the 1A. He's never going to be the feature back or the every down back. We just got done talking about how the 49ers use a lot of running backs, and yeah, Tevin Coleman, Jerick McKinnon, they're probably going to hit the road. They'll replace those guys with, you know,

day three running back picks that they add. I think he's not quite as efficient as Raheem Mostert, but he's certainly stronger and certainly healthier than Raheem Mostert. So I'm just taking the chance on Wilson being the best running back in San Francisco and definitely the guy who can cash in at the goal line, his physicality down there. It's been used already last season. We saw it.

I just think he's their best back. That's so interesting. Jamie, Chris, do you guys have Mostert or Jeff Wilson ranked higher? Wilson right now, but Mostert's not going away. Mostert's going to have to be cut or get hurt for him to be anything closer than top 27, 28 for me. I just don't see them going away from Mostert. Obviously, their most successful season in this regime was with Raheem Mostert.

So, you know, he's still going to be a big part of what they do. Is Wilson better right now? Yeah, right now. But when we get to August, will that change? Could. Why though? Why is he better right now? Just because of health?

Yeah, because of health. You know, sometimes your best ability is availability. And Raheem Mostert wasn't available a lot last year. So, they may not add anybody. You know, they like to Michael Hasty. You know, they may use him as the third guy and then bring in another street free agent. Wouldn't be shocking if they brought back Mac Rita.

You know, if they wanted just to go cheap, somebody knows their system and bring him back after the Dolphins discard him. So I think the 49ers backfield is one that's going to have some good weeks and some bad weeks. But to draft a guy from that backfield as a starter I think is a mistake Chris which 49ers running back do you gravitate toward I have most are slightly higher but it's pretty much an even split I have them separated by about 20 carries and and that between that and the fact that they don't really throw the

ball to their running backs all that much just makes me think this is a situation I would probably prefer to stay away from. Although if it's just two running backs involved and you know that then the target that went to Jerick McKinnon, he had about 50 last season. If there's just Jeff Wilson or he most or it starts to get a little easier to buy in, but I have both of them outside my top 30.

Keep in mind, Kyle, use check. Their fullback is a free agent. They will try to bring him back, but he's a big part of their run game. All right, Dave, I just want to finish with this. I feel like Raheem Mostert has proven himself to be one of the best, one of the most efficient running backs in football.

Now, we know that the Niners are great at creating space for their running backs. Consecutive years now, they've been among the leaders in yards before contact. So it's a good situation. But Mostert, I remember

early in the season before he got hurt, he had two plays that were among the fastest in terms of miles per hour in the NFL. A long run and a long reception.

He's just awesome. I just don't know how I just don't know why we would think Wilson is better than Mostert for any reason other than Mostert keeps getting hurt. Well, but that's kind of a big reason, isn't it? It is, but right, but if they're both healthy,

why wouldn't Mostert get more work than Wilson? I think if they're both healthy, you might see some games go that way, and some games where they're really close, maybe 50-50, maybe Wilson gets a little bit more. I think they've got a good combo with those two, but they have to be cognizant of Raheem Mostert's health and trying to keep him available for games all season long.

And they're not going to use him in physical short yardage situations. They've already got Wilson for that, and he's good at it. Okay, next up. Yeah, Chris, let's talk about your tight end rankings. And we talked about this on Fantasy Football today in five, but you think three tight ends are top 12 overall players, right? Yeah.

And it comes down to the fact that one, I just think Travis Kelsey, George Kittle and Darren Waller are awesome. I have them all projected for at least 250 PPR points. And the bigger thing is that there's just such a drop off at that position immediately after Darren Waller. For me, I have Mark Andrews about 50 points behind Darren Waller and Logan

Thomas. Number five is 70 points behind Darren Waller. So for me, it just comes down to the fact that if you want someone who can make a legitimate difference, if you want someone who would even be worth starting at any position, except for tight end, you have to end up with one of the top three guys.

And usually I know I can wait until, like if I'm picking in the middle of the round, I know I can usually wait to take one of those tight ends, and I'm fine with that. But if it comes down to it, I'm totally okay with taking George Kittle or Darren Waller at 11 or 12. I just think they are the single biggest difference makers that you can find at the position, at

any position outside of maybe Devontae Adams and the Christian McCaffrey top tier at running back. And when you said you're fine waiting if you have a mid-round pick, middle of the round pick, you mean waiting for the second round, right?

Yeah. Uh, Jamie, why, uh, why are Waller and Kittle not first round picks? Well, I think if you just go back to a year ago when you had Kittle and Ertz coming off amazing seasons and they were drafted or no,

it was at 2018 when they're amazing. 2018, the three tight ends went nuts. But obviously 2019 wasn't as fantastic. But if you would have taken this strategy last year, when the top two guys were clear, Kelsey and Kittle were clear. Three was a little bit of a conversation between Ertz and Andrews. But if you just want to take those three guys alone, Kittle, Ertz, and Andrews,

and say those are the two three at the tight end position, you would have been obviously completely disappointed with how you drafted by taking them. Two of those guys were injury-related, Kittle and Ertz, and Andrews just did not have the season that many hoped he would, building off of what he showed you in 2019. So they are safe in terms of what they do. Their upside they are safe in terms of what they do.

Their upside is clearly there in terms of what they do. But you are locking yourself into a position where it could be a little bit disappointing if they don't live up to those expectations. And Ertz, yes, he was injury-related. He missed five games. He was also terrible when he played. So even if you stay healthy.

One difference there would be that, you know, Waller, Kittle, and Kelsey. Well, Waller and Kittle in particular. Kelsey's actually older, but Waller and Kittle are, you know, in their physical primes, whereas Ertz was already starting to age out of that.

I just think those two guys are, you know, Kittle and Waller, even with the additions that their teams have made. I just think they're clearly the number one options. And Kittle coming Waller even with the additions that their teams have made I just think they're clearly the number one options and Kittle coming back from his injury and being treated like the number one option immediately uh you know definitely made me feel better about it Kittle's going to be really interesting to see because you know again we've talked about this a little bit I

asked him about this during Super Bowl week he was on with us on CBS Sports HQ. And I asked Darren Waller this question as well, in terms of being the guy, as opposed to sharing the field with other talented wide receivers. And, you know, kind of, if we, you know, look at some of these tight ends lately that have been awesome, Kelsey's really the one that stands out as not being just the solo act. He has a lot of great players around him, but Waller didn't have a lot of great wide receiver talent. Kittle for the majority of his peak couple of seasons, no, no wide receiver talent. You know, we we've talked about this a lot with some of these guys, you know, so I asked Waller, can he still be as productive as he has been if the receiving court gets better? You know, and he said it takes some of the focus off of him. You know,

he feels like he has to bring it every week because he knows he's getting the attention of every defense and Kittle said, you know, he feels like, and this is where he's a little bit of a different guy because he takes so much pride in his blocking. He said, this is where I have to do other things. You know, he's kind of steered the conversation away from his statistical performance, but Kittle's going to be fascinating because if, if Iuke is as good as he showed you last year and Debo, you know, can, you know, sort of continue to progressively improve. And obviously what the quarterback situation is, can Kittle still be that elite level

statistical producer? He's going to be one of the best tight ends in football. That goes without saying, but can he be a top-tier fantasy tight end? And I know we've had some conversations about his touchdown production. You know, does that justify taking him as high as he is? Can Waller stay at that touchdown level for a second season in a row? Kelsey really is the one for me that I feel the most safe about because he's been tried and true. These other two guys, I think, are more around two picks.

But, you know, if you want to get them, like Chris said, if you're picking 11-12, you know, whether you're taking them at the end of round one, or, you know, obviously you can probably take one of the, the, the second two guys in the beginning part of round two, that's probably not a bad move to make. If you know, you want to get that position locked up and not have to worry about taking the herb Smiths or where does Hayden Hurst, uh, perform year two in Atlanta, or, you know,, you know, is Gronk still going to be good? You know, those question marks that we get when you get to tight end 10 through 20.

All right, we'll take a break here on Fantasy Football today. When we come back, J.D. McKissick, Chase Claypool, Jarvis Landry, Mikko Hardman, Jalen Hurts. That's right after this on FFT. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives you that coverage. after this on FFT. to focus on what truly matters. Find their products through banks, credit unions, and associations. Or visit SecurianCanada.ca. Securian Canada. Insurance designed for life. Did you know that across Ontario, utility damage happens 19 times a day?

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We call them pass-catching running backs. And there's always one, two, maybe three that make an impact. JD McKissick was certainly one of them last year. Unfortunately, in the previous four years, James White is the only running back to repeat as a top 24 running back. So where is JD McKissick ranked right now? Well, Jamie's higher on him than Dave, but not super high.

35th. Dave's got him 44th. Really low for McKissick, and Heath actually has him 27th. Chris, you know where you have JD McKissick? 36. 36. Okay, so that's right there with Jamie. So Dave, that means you're the low guy. We'll go kind of quickly on these last five guys, McKissick, Claypool, Landry, Hardman, and Jalen Hurts.

You're not going to get McKissick if you got him ranked 44th, I would think. So how come so low? Well, if I've got him too low, that means I've got Antonio Gibson too high because there was only one game last season where they both had 15 PPR points. I think two games where they both had 10 PPR points.

It was definitely more of an either or situation in that backfield and call me crazy. I'm just thinking that the Washington coaching staff will do more with Gibson to try and enhance and improve his role along with their offensive line and maybe put themselves in games where they're not chasing points and playing from behind. And that means McKissick isn't nearly as important of a fixture on offense when they're down. They won't be down as often. It'll be Gibson who can play. And Gibson's still a good pass catcher.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he took a step forward in his receptions. If we're talking about him, I know I talked about him getting 70 catches last year, but 50 catches, I don't think he was too far off of that this past season, and I think he can do that next season. So I'm expecting a nice step forward from Antonio Gibson in his second season, and it means a step back for McKissick. Jamie, one thing I like about McKissick is that his production was not based on touchdowns.

He only scored three touchdowns, but he had 80 catches. So you got him as a number three PPR running back. For me, it comes down to the quarterback. If it's an Alex Smith-type scenario again, which would clearly be the case to start the season if they don't upgrade and they just bring in a guy that could be their future, which I don't know if it's Dwayne Haskin,

but could be, then, I'm sorry, not Dwayne Haskin, to replace Dwayne Haskin, excuse could be. Then, I'm sorry, not Dwayne Haskin, to replace Dwayne Haskin, excuse me, as the young guy of the future. Then McKissick, I think, is still in a good spot. Because I think both he and Gibson can coexist as pass-catching running backs in this backfield. I think Dave's right.

You know, full offseason for Antonio Gibson, who was making the conversion. I don't know how much they trusted him fully in pass protection, as they probably will going into his second season. So that probably will matter, especially, again, if it's a non-mobile quarterback. But I just like what he showed you. And I think the coaching staff trusts him. This is a staff that came from using their backs in the backfield quite a bit, as we know, Christian McCaffrey from their days in Carolina.

So I would love to see Antonio Gibson take a step forward. I would agree that he will take a step forward, but I don't think that Gibson totally regresses. So that's why I don't have him as high as probably Heath does and probably as high as where he finished a year ago. Chase Claypool is next in the rankings disputes. 29th for Jamie, 21st for Dave. Heath's right in the middle at 26. That's a non-PPR.

In PPR, Claypool 31st for Jamie, 24th for Dave, and 30th for Heath. Chris, you get the first word on Chase Claypool. Where do you have him? I've got him actually quite a bit lower, but I think that could change depending on what happens with Juju because right now I'm projecting Juju to still be the number two wide receiver for Pittsburgh. If he moves, then Chase Claypool will obviously get a bump.

I think he's really good. The skills that he showed last season as a rookie were really impressive. Huge, big playability. The problem is I just don't trust their quarterback to get the most out of him. And I'm not sure why I would expect Ben Roethlisberger to be a more active and effective deep thrower in 2021 than he was in 2020. Maybe it's just, you know, he needed a year to shake off the rust and he'll be a more confident passer in 2021. But yeah, Claypool, I just it comes down to one. How many targets are going to be available if Juju leaves?

How many can he get moving forward? And whether Ben Roethlisberger can play better? I think they're pretty significant questions. It's a hell of a rookie year. 873 yards and nine touchdowns on 109 targets. A lot of big playability there.

But also a lot of his production was one week. It was 110 yards and three touchdowns. Weren't his only good games, plus a rushing touchdown against Philadelphia. So that's a four-touchdown game. So let's say Juju leaves, guys, Jamie, Dave, Chris, where would

you, where do you think you'd end up on Claypool if he's the number two guy? I've been all over the place with him when I was doing my ranking, so he'll definitely, uh, move up depending on what they do. I think Juju is gone.

You know, I just want to see if they were saying Juju with something significant or they just stick with the, the top three guys that would remain on their roster with James Washington moving into the third spot. So it is your ranking is your current ranking of Claypool reflect no, no Smith Schuster. Mine do. Yeah,

mine do. Okay, so you still have him 29th, around 30th, Jamie, and Dave more like 21st, assuming that Smith-Schuster is gone. Yeah, I love Chase Claypool. And if he's going in the top two, being drafted as a number two wide receiver, I won't get a lot of him. I'll move him up a few spots,

but I don't think he'll crack my top 24. It's just such a loaded position. So he's got tremendous upside in year two. I think Chris has some good points there about Ben Roethlisberger maximizing his potential, but I don't think he's going to necessarily bring him down to the point where he can't be a productive fantasy option. So Claypool's got just a ton of upside.

But again, what do they do with the Ebron Juju replacements? Dave, going to PPR, Jarvis Landry, you have him 10 spots lower than Jamie does. Landry, 40th for you, 30th for Jamie in PPR. Came alive in the second half of last season. That was without Odell Beckham. I think we're expecting Odell Beckham to stay in Cleveland. They can't cut him.

And I don't know who's trading and giving up a lot for him when he's not at 100%. Still PPR heavy. Could get a decent amount of catches, but I think the Browns proved who they were this year. They're a team that loves to run the football. They're damn good at it. And Landry's just going to be one of those receivers who I just think fits in as a good number three-ish type of option.

And they threw 501 times. That is mega low. of those receivers who I just think fits in as a good number three-ish type of option in PPR. They threw 501 times. That is mega low. His target share was 18.3% with Beckham. I think there were only five games, not including the game that Beckham left after four snaps.

Maybe six games. They barely threw and his target share was way down. Jamie, you got him 30th though. That's I think right next to Claypool, Jarvis Landry. Yeah, it's probably a few spots too high. I mean, maybe I'm just, you know, looking at what the way he finished,

but it's just every year with Jarvis Landry. It's like how many times we're going to write him off and he just continues to end up being a productive fantasy option no matter the situation, no matter the quarterback, no matter the team.

But is that true though? Because he was like 38th this past year. I mean, this was his worst year since his rookie season. But, no matter the quarterback, no matter the team. But is that true, though? Because he was like 38th this past year. I mean, this was his worst year since his rookie season. But, you know, again, for me, it's probably just how he finished as opposed to the way the whole season went. I need to reevaluate that one. Okay. Yeah, he was 38th in non-PPR. He was 36th in PPR.

Much, much better without Beckham. Finally started catching some touchdowns. And also, they had that stretch of like three straight games with terrible weather. That really hurt the passing stats as well. All right, let's see. What do we got? What's next on the list here? I can't find it.

What's next on the list, guys? There we go. Mikko Hardman. All right, so Jamie's got him 38th. Heath 37th in non-PPR. Jamie and Heath have him 41st in full PPR. Dave does not have him ranked as of now. Chris, Mikko Hardman, what do you think?

I'm assuming Sammy Watkins' status matters here. Sammy Watkins' status does matter a little bit, but I'm more with Dave here. I'm not sure he's going to be a significant part of the offense even if Sammy Watkins doesn't come back just because, you know, Sammy Watkins fits a different role than I think what Mecole Hardman can do. And Mecole Hardman is kind of redundant with Tyreek Hill. So I'm just, are they going to throw Mecole Hardman out there for 80% of their snaps

and have him run a full route tree and throw him 100 passes and all that that would entail? I kind of have a hard time seeing that. I think he's still going to remain kind of a gadget, big play type of guy. And frankly, I'm just not sure he's got the well-rounded skill set that it would take to take a big step forward. He wasn't as good in 2020 as he was in 2019. And,

um, yeah, I just, I don't quite see it happening. Okay. Jamie, you want to make the case for me? Cole Hartman.

I mean, if there's no Sammy Watkins and he's on the field more than I'm going to buy in as much as I possibly can. And I feel like I might have him a couple of spots too low if there is no Sammy Watkins and he's there, uh, as their starter. So that's gotta be the case.

He's gotta be the starter for them. Chris is right. He has kind of been more of a Tyree kill replacement as opposed to a Sammy Watkins replacement. They've seemed to use the Marcus Robinson, even Byron Pringle more in that role, but this is the year for me called Hardman entering his third season, you know,

time to step up and prove it. One thing I did like was when in the playoff game to against Buffalo, when he fumbled and how much those guys rallied around him. And then they went back to him and he got the touchdown. I think Andy Reed has proven to maximize the best potential of his players. And I think Nicole Hardman is the third best skill player on their team after Tyree kill and Travis Kelsey. And I think this is the year he'll show up.

Oh, whoa. CEH, move over. That's a diss, man. Why is that a diss? I don't know. It's a first round pick. I think you're the fourth best person on this show, but I still love you.

But I wasn't a first round pick. I think Jamie was saying he's going to draft McCall Hardman over Clyde Edwards-Hilaire. Yeah, there we go. Okay, and then we've got Jalen Hurts. So Heath, I mean, Heath really would have been nice to have him on. Heath's got him 17th.

Jamie's got him 8th. Dave, right in the middle, 13th. I guess 12 and a half would have been right in the middle, Dave. So 13th, though. So, all right, Jamie, a half would have been right in the middle, Dave. 13th, though. All right, Jamie, first word. Jalen Hurts, QB8. Go. Offensive line will be better. He runs.

I think year two full offseason will be fantastic for him. I'm going to get a lot of Jalen Hurts this year, especially if they do draft a receiver in the first round. Do they need to draft a receiver or add a receiver? No, no, but it would,

it would certainly help. All right. It shouldn't be their top priority to add a receiver, but it wouldn't hurt if they added maybe in free agency, like a reliable sideline type of guy to replace Alshon, Jeffrey, Travis Fulgham. Maybe they just bring back Fulgham.

Who knows? Um, but I, I think you look at Hertz as one of those in the same vein is Lamar Jackson. A couple of years ago, the same vein as Cam Newton last year running quarterback, tons of upside, a good value pick or not necessarily a value pick. I'm sorry. A good high upside pick that you take round eight plus.

And so if you, if you mess up and he stinks, who cares? It's a round eight pick down the drain. But if he hits, you're probably on the way to making the playoffs in your league. All right, Chris. So you got eighth for Jamie,

13th for Dave, 17th for Heath. Where would you fall on Jalen Hurts? I agree with Jamie. He's ninth for me. There's definitely a little bit of a drop off after number eight, who's Dak Prescott. But, yeah, I just think it's the rushing QB thing. He looked like someone who could be a Kyler Murray,

Lamar Jackson-esque runner, and he was that kind of guy in college. He was a more productive rusher in that final season at Oklahoma than Kyler Murray was. Kyler Murray was really, really good. So that tells you the kind of upside. And then we saw that in his, what, three starts or four starts? He made 3.75 starts. Yeah.

Four starts, three games that we actually care about. Well, he was pretty horrible against Washington in three quarters, but he's had two rushing touchdowns in that game. Yeah, I just think anyone who can rush for 800 yards is probably going to be a top 12 quarterback for me. That includes Taysom Hill, who is currently ranked as a top 12 quarterback for me. If he gets 800 yards, he's a top five quarterback.

Yeah. It's really hard not to be. You might be selling him short because his pace was well over a thousand. Sure. But what's he doing as a passer? Like, yes, a thousand yards as a Russian quarterback is huge, and that's a great starting point. But

if he's throwing like Cam did last year, he's not going to be a top five quarterback. Right. Cam was what? About 550 yards in how many touchdowns? Yeah, Cam and Daniel Jones, I think were the only quarterbacks who rushed for, I think it was 300 yards who didn't finish his top 12.

I think that was the number. Right. 300. Who do you guys like better between Hertz and Herbert? Are you, or who are you drafting first? I guess. I have her tire.

Okay. I'm taking Herbert. Jamie. He said hurts. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn taking Herbert. Jamie? Hurts. He said Hurts. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear. Sorry.

Our nine-year-old podcast host would have heard that. Ouch, Dave. That Hurts. I don't think he would have come up with something that witty. Let's read some emails. Fantasyfootball at CBSI.com. All right. Mike says, thanks for the shout-out on the pod the other day. I was the one who recommended the peanut

butter and bologna sandwich. That's disgusting. Jamie, do you remember that? No. He doesn't remember that. Here's the rest of the email. I don't remember the exact circumstances. As I recall, Nando was still on the show then and he brought the supplies.

I think you skipped the taste test, Adam. Dave said there was too much peanut butter to taste the bologna. I don't remember what Jamie said about it. For the record, though, it's way better than it sounds, and it also works with salami or bacon. So where this comes from, Jamie, is I found an old iPad, and on it is a recording

of us eating peanut butter and bologna sandwiches, you included. You were not a fan. You ate it, Jamie. I have to remember to send it to Adam so Adam can put it on one of these podcasts. Peanut butter and bacon sounds good. I don't know about the other two, but

peanut butter and bacon sounds great. Salami and definitely not bologna. I grew out of bacon. On the subject of bad sandwiches, I've got one that's even worse than banana and mayo. My son and I squared off in a fantasy championship at the end of the 2020 season. We decided the loser would have to eat a recreation of a sandwich

that at the time was available at McDonald's in another country. Hold on to your stomach. It was made with two thick slices of spam, some crushed Oreos, and mayo. I had Camara on my team, so I obviously won. However, I'm also a good sport, so I too chowed down. Spam, crushed Oreos and mayo.

It was horrid. That's bad. If you fried the spam up, maybe it could be okay. But yeah. So bad. Don't know about that one. All right. Now some actual fantasy questions. Jeff from The Nog. but yeah so bad don't know about that one

alright now some actual fantasy questions Jeff from the Nog 12 team dynasty league last year I focused on rebuilding I have both Kittle and Waller my running backs are Barkley, Eckler Gordon, Mike Davis Cohen and Damian Williams

I have four good wide receivers I have Josh Allen as well. So should I keep both tight ends and force another team to play a crappy tight end? Or should I trade one of them and beef up my running backs? Barkley, Eckler, Gordon, Mike Davis, three Cohen, Damian Williams. Which one would you trade and who would you target?

I also have Austin Hooper. He has Kittle, Waller and Hooper. So what do you think Jamie should he keep both tight ends or make a trade? I mean it can't hurt to make a trade but as we've kind of alluded to

obviously we're talking seasonal but those tight ends are pretty special so you know you got to get a top tier caliber player in return and maybe a player in a pick if you're going to make this trade happen so you know it might not be a bad idea if you want to buy low on on Josh Jacobs or Joe Mixon or Miles Sanders one of those guys that you know can still be a top 12 type running

back and get a pick along with it you can go you go maybe just looking at if you're trying to trade with somebody who has one of the top three or three to five picks in the rookie draft and then maybe a lesser tier running back along with that. So you're getting maybe the chance at Etienne or Najee Harris. So there's a few

different routes you can go. Quick keeper question from Ryan. 12-team standard scoring league. Would you keep Clyde Edwards-Ziller in the eighth round or Miles Sanders in the seventh? Standard scoring, Edwards-Ziller in the eighth or Miles Sanders in the seventh? I would go Sanders. Sanders.

CEH. All right, this is from Jeffrey. He says, dear Mark, Richard, Jerry, Chris, and Benj. With a J at the end. Mark, Richard, Jerry, Chris, and Benj. With a J at the end. Mark, Richard, Jerry, Chris, and Benj. Let's see. We got Richard, Marks, Benj, and Jerry, and Chris Towers. I figured it out.

Okay, so he's got a Dynasty League. It's a band. All right, don't tell me. Oh, a R. Oh, okay. I never would've gotten that.

I say, Oh, you say, yeah, that's the one song I know. Okay. Super flex, two running backs,

two wide receivers, tight end, and two flex. It's half PPR. It is six point per passing touchdown. So he gives his whole roster here. He has a lot of Chargers. He says,

please don't let Heath read this. I'm obviously a Chargers fan and put a little bit more heart into the team than I should. Does Heath hate the Chargers or Homerism? I don't know. No, it's just that Heath

is a chief fan. I don't think Heath hates any team. Yeah, Heath doesn't care. Except maybe Mizzou. I'm not sure if he's a big fan of Mizzou. I tanked last year. I now have picks 102, 109, 202, and 211.

Nice. It is a super flex league. Should I even target Trevor Lawrence with my first pick, second overall? Or should I go with Travis Etienne or Najee Harris? So he's got at quarterback, Justin Herbert, Tua, Darnold, and Fitzpatrick. And at running back, he has Barkley and Mixon, but then he has Tevin Coleman, Kalen Balazs, Josh Kelly, Bryce Love. So I think he needs both positions, quite honestly.

Lawrence is not close. Tua turns. All right, so Jamie says definitely take Trevor Lawrence. Super flex six point per passing touchdown league. Dave and Chris, what do you say? If Lawrence is there, I think you can make a pretty good argument. Lawrence should be the number one pick

in a super flex rookie draft. But, you know, I think the one thing is that this does seem like a pretty deep QB class with guys who have that rushing ability. And so, you know, if Lawrence isn't there at two, I think you go running back and then, you know, hopefully there will be a decent quarterback option at number nine.

Yep. Love that. Love that thought. And if you do end up getting Lawrence, try and have a trade ready to go to get to our Darnold off your team. If, if this goes as most rookie super flex drafts go, and I've done many of them,

you're going to see probably the first four quarterbacks go in the first six or seven overall picks, which means by nine, you're getting the third running back potential, maybe the second or one of those receivers or one of those receivers, which the way i looked at the receivers that this guy has he could use one of those too yeah uh yeah he needs a lot he needs a lot but you know the other part of that is 202 will probably still be a really good receiver yep 211 maybe but I think the thing would become is, you know, if you don't love Justin Fields or Zach Wilson,

which will probably be the second or third quarterback, depending on where they end up, the second quarterback, depending on where they end up, and you don't want to reach for that at two, then you take the best available player, which could be, you know, Harris could be Devante Smith, you know, could be Jamar. You know, however, it shakes out that you feel is the second best player there,

at nine, again, you've now pushed all these other guys down. So you could get Mac Jones, who could be the fourth quarterback. We just don't know how it's all going to play itself out there, though. So you don't have to reach for quarterback at two if it's not Lawrence. But I think if somebody doesn't take Lawrence at one, you definitely take Lawrence at two. That is going to do it for today's show. Tomorrow, we will look at rookie quarterbacks,

evaluate how they did in 2020 and what the future looks like, and also talk a little bit of dynasty. That will be Jamie and Heath on the show tomorrow. I am Adam Azer. Thanks to Jamie Eisenberg, Dave Richard, and Chris Towers. Thanks to all of you for listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow