Fantasy Football Today - Rankings Risers and Fallers: Corey Davis, Big Ben, Myles Gaskin (08/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

Bid on our Draft-A-Thon items right now to benefit St. Jude! http://cbssports.com/ebay What a weekend for Corey Davis! And Myles Gaskin! Let's start with Gaskin as we compare him to Miles Sanders and other RBs in that range (2:15). Then who would we rather have: Ja'Marr Chase or Chase Edmonds (6:15)? Chase Or Tee Higgins? Has Michael Carter fallen behind the 49ers RBs (9:30)? ... Finally we're on to Corey Davis (12:45). Just how far up the rankings is he rising? Drafters might be overreacting a bit here. Also: Who is the best Bills RB (19:50)? Best Texans RB? Any interest in Pat Freiermuth (22:00)? ... A Ben Roethlisberger discussion (24:00) and more rankings risers and fallers. We talk at length about the Dolphins WRs (28:40) the Ravens backfield (31:40) and Jakobi Meyers. Plus some news and notes (44:00) ... Your emails at [e-mail] 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Okay, everybody, start counting. Are we going to say Corey Davis or Miles Gaskin more on today's show? They are big storylines this week. As, hey, they face second-teamers again. And they're really good.

Miles Gaskin with a strong bounce-back week. Corey Davis with a... Zach Wilson is obsessed with Corey Davis, so we're looking forward to talking about him. Wait till you see the Twitter polls that Heath posted today. Corey Davis is going to be like a sixth-round pick with another good week in the preseason if he plays. Adam Azer with Heath, with Jamie, with Dave. You don't get to know their last names.

What's up, guys? Jamie, you got some father-son fantasy leagues going on. Looks like your kids drafted pretty well. They must get some good advice. They did do well. They did. The 14-team draft with the 6-year-old, I thought, came out better than the 12-team draft with the 9-year-old.

Not that the 9-year-old's team is bad, but the 6-year-old's team is in a little bit better shape, I think, given the amount of competition. Pretty loaded at running back and wide receiver. He's going to start Trevor Lawrence. Who is the backup quarterback? Well, yeah. So we got caught in that.

We were picking 12th out of 14. So I thought, OK, maybe somebody of Tannehill, Stafford, Hertz, I think, were the three. And they all went back to back to back. So I was like, OK, we'll just go the rookie route and hope for the best. So we ended up with Lawrence and Justin Fields. There you go. Uh, Andy Dalton is going to start week one,

by the way, no word on week two. Uh, Dave, I had a tough call this weekend. Just real quick. If you want to give me your take Buffalo chicken pizza or barbecue chicken pizza,

barbecue chicken pizza. Yeah. And the bears did everything they could to set up Dalton, the fail in that game. And fields Bears did everything they could to set up Dalton to fail in that game, and Fields just could not capitalize. We got a lot to talk about with Justin Fields as well. Trey Lance is actually playing right now. We are recording this on Sunday night.

And Heath, we're going to talk a lot about Corey Davis, but let's get started with the Who Would You Rather Have game based on the winners and losers from preseason week two. Miles Gaskin or Miles Sanders, guys? Heath, you get the first word. Yeah, I'm going to go with Miles Gaskin. I just completely overreacted to one week, and it would be unfair not to overreact in the other direction

to the second week. So I'm just going to go back to where I was with Miles Gaskin, which is ahead of Miles Sanders. Jamie I was with Miles Gaskin, which is ahead of Miles Sanders. Jamie? Yeah, Miles Gaskin. I mean, both are going to be in what looks like somewhat of crowded backfields, but you see what Miles Gaskin is capable of last year, and I think what he will be capable of this year as well. And I think his competition is not as good as Miles Sanders' competition. Go ahead, Dave. I think both their competition stinks. And honestly, maybe the best backup running back on both these teams combined

is Ahmed, who looked pretty good. Malcolm Brown did not look good. Gaskin, it was clear to me from last week's game that he was the better running back compared to Malcolm Brown. And then I went to their practice on Thursday. Gaskin was handling first-team reps, handled the majority of those reps again in the preseason game against Atlanta's backups. Keep that in mind. It was the Falcons backups on defense. But I think he's going to be better

than Miles Sanders. I'd rather have him. Okay. It's Miles Gaskin in the Twitter poll that I posted. 51% Gaskin, 49% Miles Sanders. So then what about, uh, what about like Mike Davis and miles Gaskin? So I'm not a huge fan of Mike Davis, but that was another one where he was taking all the first team reps with the Falcons in practice. Like, I feel like I've got a little bit of an advantage because I went and I saw the Falcons practice against Miami and the Falcon starters have yet to play in a preseason game. I still have Gaskin ranked ahead of Davis, but it's pretty close. I'm a little more interested in Davis than I was before.

Davis and Sanders is getting really close. I actually have Gaskin, Sanders, Davis. I have Gaskin, Davis, Sanders. Why is Sanders a faller here? Is it based on what, you know, he's not catching the ball? Because they really haven't used him at all in the preseason. They barely played him. You can't read a preseason report about the Eagles and not hear something bad about Miles Sanders.

That's the thing, is he got a whole new coaching staff and all they do is have bad reports. Remember when Miles Sanders became a thing? It was when Jordan Howard went away. They brought back Jordan Howard. Yeah, a slimmed down. And Gainwell was catching pass.

Right. There's four guys there that are going to touch the ball. Sanders is going to be the best of the group. I don't think you can, I don't think you should avoid him as a number two running back, but he's at the back end of the group now. And hey, how many rushing yards and rushing touchdowns will Matt Ryan and Tua Tunga-Vailoa have

compared to Jalen Hurts? Right. Yeah, but Sanchez's best performances last year came with Jalen Hurts. So, I mean, he'll help. It's true, but I don't think he gets... I think his touchdown upside is capped. I don't know if that's true, by the way,

that his best performances came with Hurts. He had the one... He had an 80-yard run. Yeah. And other than that, he was crap with Jalen Hurts. Let's take those away, sure. No. He had an 80-yard run. And other than that, he was crap with Jalen Hurts. Let's take those away, sir. No, he had two other 80-yard runs earlier in the year against Baltimore and Pittsburgh, and that was without Jalen Hurts.

I do not think Miles Sanders' best performances came with Hurts. His yards per carry was good all year. In terms of catches, it wasn't really much different with Hurts. Okay, but, you know, I mean, look, Miles Sanders could have carved up the Falcons' second team, but he's barely played. Gaskin played a lot, and the Dolphins haven't

faced a first-team defense, really. They faced, like, half of the first-team Bears' defense. Anyway, Gaskin was great, and he was very involved in the passing game, and Tua's been very conservative, I think, in the preseasonseason maybe that favors Gaskin so I mean I'll just you know he said it I had Gaskin over Sanders before the preseason started so I'm just going to go back to that after seeing Sanders and Gaskin after this week all right let's go to our next one this is a running back and a wide receiver both named Chase Jamar Chase who had some drops and hasn't

had a good preseason so far, or Chase Edmonds. Jamar Chase or Chase Edmonds. They have similar ADPs. Who would you take? Depends what you need. Yeah, they're going to be close in that late round five, early round six range in PPR. I do have Jamar Chase a little higher. I'm not going to judge him

based on three clumsy drops from brandon allen heath yeah i um i moved them quite a bit closer i was actually just trying to look it up i've got chase edmunds now four picks ahead of jamar chase so i guess i take the running back i mostly agree that it depends on what you need at that point in the draft. But I'm kind of getting tired of all the negativity surrounding Chase. And I have just completely glossed over the fact that he didn't play football for a year and a half. And maybe we should take that into account a little more. It kind of looks like it's night with Trey Lance.

And Dave, you had James Conner as a rankings faller. So I thought maybe you'd be a little higher on on Chase Edmonds you want to talk about what you're seeing in the Cardinals backfield sure Edmonds is starting Edmonds is a better fit for what this offense is Edmonds played more than Connor in the second preseason game

Connor didn't play in the first preseason game this offense is headed toward like what Buffalo's was last year where they're just going to have everything run through the quarterback and so edmunds is the better fit and passing downs i think they're going to play a lot of passing downs because that's what they're going to do this year is pass the ball a ton kyler murray is going to be their best runner uh chase edmunds will be behind him in terms of like right there's a chance he could be behind him in rushing yards.

But I think Chase Edmonds has a lot of catches and a lot in the passing game. I'm kind of excited about Chase Edmonds at this point. The only thing that you have to worry about is if Connor plays the Drake role in the red zone and inside the 10, because that's where he'll have an edge because he's going to be the one scoring touchdowns.

Drake scored 11 touchdowns last year. So, you know, if Edmonds is coming off the field in obvious short yardage situations like that, then it's going to be a problem for him. So I'm not going to judge James Conner in his first action when the offense as a whole looked terrible. And he's probably still getting his legs back underneath him after missing time for, you know, being placed on the COVID list.

So I would much rather have Chase Edmonds, but I'm not getting overexcited about Chase Edmonds or changing my opinion on James Conner after that game. It was not a good outing for the Cardinals' first-team offense. How about Jamar Chase or Tee Higgins at this point? Jamar Chase or Tee Higgins? It's Chase, but I think I actually have the Bengals receivers back-to-back-to-back in my PPR rankings.

Chase, Boydd Higgins. On Twitter, 74% of my followers said Higgins. That's because so much was made about these drops. And two of them were overreaction drops. Total overreaction. He was separating all game long. He's going to be fine. It's not the quarterback.

You got to see him with his quarterback out there. How about this next one? Preseason loser, I guess we'd have to call him. Michael Carter or your favorite San Francisco running back, Trey Sermon, not playing on Sunday night with an ankle injury. I'm guessing most are also did not play.

I'll do my favorite and my second favorite 49ers running back over Michael Carter right now. Agreed. I thought Carter looked very good. I am discouraged by him being the third running back on the field. I'm further discouraged by another good week from Ty Johnson. I think Ty Johnson's looked good for two games now.

I think Tevin Coleman hasn't looked very good, but he's going to make the team. I mean, Tevin Coleman played such a minimal role in the second game. He didn't play in the first game. He didn't play in the first game. He didn't look great in the second game, but he's going to make the team, and he's going to be involved. And Ty Johnson might take a little bit, and it's going to take a while for Michael Carter to be

this breakout running back that we were all hoping for. I agree with Heath. Mostert, Sermon, Carter. Okay, but then let me just kind of bring this up. Maybe we can learn something from the Myles Gaskin situation here. And maybe Michael Carter is a long-term play. I think it's...

Oh, he's totally... He's the best Jets running back. Yeah? Yeah. Right, because, I mean, that competition stinks, too. You want some other idiot in your league to draft Ty Johnson or Tevin Coleman. No, no, I just mean... I just mean that Sermon probably poses a threat to Mostert.

Just because we've seen, I don't think they're going to turn Mostert loose after they tried that last year and he got hurt after three and a half games. And we kind of know what the Niners do. But Michael Carter should be able to beat out Coleman and Ty Johnson. So if you're going like zero RB and you need a starter in week one, it's one thing. But if you're just looking for some bench depth, maybe you should take Carter.

I mean, Sherman and Carter are very similar because they're long-term plays. They're not going to be early season guys as long as everybody's healthy with their teams. But I mean, if you're looking for what a poor man's Jonathan Taylor could be, those are the type of guys you're looking for that by the middle of the season

that they're taking over their backfields and doing great things. I mean, you bring up the 49ers. Well, where did the coaching staff come from? So it's probably a similar storyline that could develop with both those guys. Yeah, if they have good running backs. But if they don't, and I mean, I just don't think that, I don't know. I don't know if any of us take Tevin Coleman and Ty Johnson seriously,

but if you're comparing Michael Carter and Trey Sermon and saying that they both could take over second half or even earlier, you know, I, whose path is easier? Well, Carter's back. But the question is like,

what is the, what is the peak Carter rookie profile? Do we think there's a chance that Michael Carter is going to end up with 18 touches a game at any point this year? I don't know. And that's really what I've that's what I've been discouraged by. It's just that the other running

backs like Coleman doesn't look great, but he's going to play. Johnson has looked good. He could end up taking touches away. So there's going to be somebody there to take work away from Michael Carter. Jets off that's a line. I think I thought they've looked okay. I know that it's been getting...

Yeah, that's the thing. They're playing backups. Well, some of their... Apparently, in all their sports, they were getting just manhandled in practice. Oh, in the joint practice. Beckton hasn't had a good... They look good in the game.

Beckton's had some issues. I don't mean the offensive line. I mean just the team in general is getting manhandled. Not surprising, I guess, against the Packers. All right, Corey Davis time. Here we go cory davis speaking of the jets here's a here's a young receiver that i know you guys like youngish receiver mike williams somebody we're looking at around pick 100 and see the potential cory

davis or mike williams it's davis heath you said what do you have yeah yeah that's the this is the thing is i what i realized today on Twitter is that I am like, I used to be the Corey Davis guy. I overdrafted him for three years in a row. I am not the Corey Davis guy anymore after the past weekend. I'll take Williams, and you can go up like 10 spots in the rankings before anybody else is going to say anything other than Corey Davis, apparently.

The thing about Williams is, as you're watching, if you've seen the game tonight, they're going to use Josh other than Corey Davis, apparently. The thing about Williams is, as you're watching, if you've seen the game tonight, they're going to use Josh Palmer a lot. Guyton led their team in snaps, and I know Williams and Keenan Allen don't play, but one of those guys is going to be a problem for Mike Williams, because Keenan Allen's getting his targets, and Austin Eckler's getting his.

You know who's going to be a problem for Mike Williams? It's Mike Williams. He keeps dealing with injuries all the time. Well, Corey Davis has done that his entire career. I don't think we should expect Corey Davis to be more healthy than Mike Williams. I don't know if he's missed as much time. If you want to know his career history, probably. But, you know, I'll take the last two years of Corey Davis playing most of last season, didn't he?

Yeah, he played 14 games last year. He's also, I mean, this is the first time since he's kind of established himself as the number one guy. You know, he was terrible when he was in that role as a rookie. And he's in rhythm with Wilson. At least he was in the game. Again, I don't know what happened in the joint practice. Zach Wilson looks for Corey Davis more than he looks for beer.

Every time. Every time, man. He looks for beer. That's good. Yeah, Corey Davis. I was going to go with Dave with pizza, but I figured, you know, man. He's true. That's good. Yeah, Corey Davis. I was going to go Dave with pizza, but I figured, you know,

let Heath have it here. What's my stat on Corey Davis? He was one of five players who did something really impressive last year. One of five wide receivers who averaged 15 yards per catch and caught 70% or more

of their targets. Will Fuller, Rashard Higgins, Justin Jefferson, Corey Davis, and Julio Jones. That's how good of a year he had last year. The only thing we've got to worry about Corey Davis is Elijah Moore's not playing right now. And so that's the only thing that you should pump the brakes a little bit on with Corey Davis is that Moore was the one that Zach Wilson was his best buddy in training camp at the start of practice for them. And then he has the groin injury and he's not on the field. So hopefully he's going to be fine. And hopefully Corey Davis continues in this role, but don't overlook Elijah

Moore either. I think he's still going to be a big part of this. Like working his way back from the food poisoning too. They're starting to get a little bit more of a rapport as well. I look at Davis as a top 50 fantasy receiver. He's a bench receiver. We're not talking about him as a number three guy yet. What? You have the Twitter polls? Yeah, here's the Twitter polls that Heath posted.

A series of Corey Davis Twitter polls. Who do you prefer in full PPR? Corey Davis, Curtis Samuel, Mike Williams. Oh, Davis is running away with this one. Davis ran away 56%, more than the other two guys combined. Yes. I kind of like Samuel still. Okay.

I have him third on that group, but I might have to. Yeah, I don't like Curtis Samuel that much anymore. Okay. Corey Davis, Antonio Brown, Jalen Waddell. This is probably Antonio Brown. Same. It's either him or it's not Davis. Davis is winning that poll as well. 42% of the votes.

I have AB ranked the highest of the three. We're not done yet. We're not done. Just wait. Corey Davis, Juju Smith-Schuster, Kenny Galladay. Juju, Galladuster, or Kenny Galladay? Juju Galladay-Davis for me.

Don't tell me. Corey Davis is winning this poll. I had Adam go and retweet these because I thought my followers were pranking me or something. That's 2,400 votes. It's not a small group of people. Corey Davis.

It's Corey Davis. That's the answer. I didn't go any higher than that because I didn't. I just couldn't take it. Corey Davis. Corey Davis, A.J. Brown. Would it be that much of a shock, though, if Corey Davis is the best receiver in New York? Not including Buffalo, obviously.

Well, then in New Jersey, you're saying, basically. No, of course not at this point if you're saying basically, um, no, uh, no, of course not at this point, if you were better than Gotti, but would you really take him over Gallaudet?

No, but I mean, the gap is closing quickly, but again, it's funny because we all see it, but at the same time, it's the second they're going against backups and Zach. It doesn't matter.

It's the quarterback is leaning on him so much. Yeah. But what are we going to expect from Zach Wilson in the regular season? He's played well against the Giants and the Packers backups. But what's he going to do in the regular season? He might be bad. He might stink. I don't care if he stinks. If he throws the ball

50% of the time. But the defenses are going to know that. They're going to make adjustments. It's not going to be as easy. Obviously, he's not going to be a superstar in that regard, but he still has the chance to make plays if you give him the opportunities to make plays. So where's not going to be as easy. Obviously, he's not going to be a superstar in that regard, but he still has the chance to make plays if you give him the opportunities to make plays. So where are you going to rank Corey Davis? Where I have him ranked right now, which is in the high 40s.

Give me some of the names around him. I can pull it up if you want. I take him over Mike Williams. I take him over Curtis Samuel. He's not that far from Galladay at this point. You know, it's... Who about Beckham? I got Beckham.

Beckham. How about Will Fuller? I've got Fuller. I would rather have him than Fuller. I've got Davis over Fuller too. Jacoby Myers or Corey Davis? I'm a Jacoby fan. Myers, Davis, but it's close.

Non-PPR, you might be here. Non-PPR, you could take davis i think davis can be okay but but like all of those guys it appears are going to be going after corey davis very soon and good in that case let everybody else take them you know maybe it's just a short overreaction maybe all right let's go to another one quarterback loves him what's what i mean what's what's so hard to like about that because i think the situation will change once the season starts and they're playing against first string i mean look this is the guy they spent money on they they had the opportunity to sign kenny galladay to sign juju to go out and get any free agent wide receiver that they

wanted and they targeted cory davis and now the quarterback is targeting cory davis like it's also like you said jamie like elijah moore is going to come back i don't think he's going ahead i don't think he's going to be going ahead of you. I don't think he's going ahead of Gallaudet yet, but I mean, there's reason to obviously be excited about Corey Davis right now. I mean, did we do Tyler Croft polls too, since he caught two touchdowns from Zach Wilson? Tyler Croft or Chris Hernan?

Croft. I'm done with Herndon, man. You know, just to be fair, they did sign Corey Davis to a three-year $37.5 million deal. What did Kenny Gallaty get, like a $70 million deal? Right. I'm not saying that they're in the same stratosphere, but, you know, the way that everything is just unfolding in front of us,

you have to say Corey Davis is winning. That's the bottom line. He's winning. That's up to you. He's having a great preseason. No question. All right, let's move on. Zach Moss or Devin Singletary? All the career year for him.

Zach Moss or Devin Singletary? I want to put Singletary ahead so bad. Then why don't you? Because I'm just worried that Moss will end up taking work away. And I also think that this is still going to be an offense that won't run the ball as much as we want them to. The thing for me... Wait, wait, wait.

Answer the question. Singletary ball. You said it. I know you said it. Dave, let's go. I've got Moss right out of Singletary still. I'm taking Moss over Singletary, and I hope Singletary starts getting drafted out of Moss.

Heath? Yeah, I'm glad that he's not. It's a lot better to stay Sing of people and then just wait and take him after moscos but i just i mean again i'm neither of these guys are in my top 40 running backs i don't want to draft either of them very much at all but i think that in two years singletary shown us singletary singletary has shown us more of an ability to make things happen with fewer touches. And I think you have to do that to have any chance of being good in this situation. You're going to have to have breakaway plays.

You're going to have to have a high efficiency because there's only going to be 10 to 12, maybe 14 touches a game. And you're probably not going to get the red zone work either. And so what he was known for at FAU was being a yards creator. He, you know, good lateral agility, played with power, all that stuff. And we've seen it now in two preseason games where he's, he's looked like vintage Devin Singletary from his FAU days. And it's great, but Moss is getting some time. Moss is playing with power.

Even if Moss goes down with another injury, it would be his ninth in three years. Singletary still isn't going to get the type of work that we want. You don't think so? He did last year. He'll get some decent run, but it's not going to be what we want. He had three games last year without Moss. One was terrible. It was a bad game for the team. The other two he had something like 18 and 21 PPR fantasy points.

He really delivered. Phillip Lindsay or Mark Ingram? Still Lindsay. Neither. You can't say that. You have to rank them. Corey Davis. Zach Moss.

Chris Hurd. No, no. I'll take the Texans. I've got Lindsey higher than Ingram. I think I have like Singletary Moss-Lindsey back-to-back-to-back in my 45-ish range at running back. Right. Okay, yeah, I mean, Ingram was kind of the guy in this game.

And finally... David Johnson's going to get cut. Rookie tight ends. Pat Friermuth or Kyle Pitts? At least Friermuth gets on the field. Yeah. Pitts can't even get on the field. React to that.

I think the Falcons are being smart. Ben looked great. Yeah, react to it. We'll talk about Ben for sure. But react to Pat Friermuth catching two touchdowns. And the broadcasters... He owes us all the Roethlisberger. And Ebron had a drop in the game.

Ebron had a drop. Shocker. And the broadcasters talk about how Friermuth does not drop anything. And he made what looked like some pretty nice catches. Yeah, Ben was great. But I don't know. Is Friermuth a sleeper? In tight end premium leagues, yeah.

Yeah. That's fair. Okay. At best, at best, he's fifth in targets. Okay. All right. It is Draft Prepping for Charity Month, supporting St. Jude.

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Okay. Wow. Okay. Good stuff. CBSSports.com slash eBay. Well, some more players. I know there's a lot of players you wanted to talk about let's talk about ben roethlisberger and jamie what what did you see from roethlisberger i mean that pump fake and the touchdown uh to frymouth was was pretty nice uh a lot of zip on the ball he looked like uh old ben he was moving around in pocket uh escaping pressure

um you know downfield throw to deontay Johnson. You know, it looked like vintage Ben. And, you know, I've said it on our quarterback stuff. You know, I think he's a sleeper just based on, you know, what he was last year alone where he finished as the 13th best quarterback. But, you know, just looking at the weapons around him, I mean, if he looks like this, he's going to end up being a number one quarterback by the end of the season. So, you know, if you don't like your quarterback situation and like,

for example, in that 14 team league, I would have gladly paired Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields with Ben Roethlisberger, but Roethlisberger went before both of them, I believe. Somebody probably watched the game and just got excited. But there's, there's a lot to like based on the way that he looked. Forget about anything statistically, all that. If you watch the game, he looked impressive and we know the weapons are impressive. If you watch the game, he looked impressive.

And we know the weapons are impressive. Najee Harris had a big catch out of the backfield. So this team is loaded. And if he's anything close to what he was, you're going to like it. The offensive line looked great in pass blocking. There were a couple holes that they opened for Harris running the ball too. But if that group holds up, the receiving core holds up, Ben holds up, he's going to have a good season.

He's going gonna finish strong i charted them with nine at least fair blocking plays out of the 10 pass attempts that rothlisberger had i thought rothlisberger was like he was the reason why fryer muth had those touchdowns the pump fake put the ball up high for fryer muth to get and then the second one the defender at his back turned he threw it it up for Friermuth to take down. A lot of quick throws, too. So there's a lot of what we saw last year that was implemented in this preseason game, but just piggybacking off Jamie, offensive line looked very,

very good, and Roethlisberger looked good, too. And I love the fact that they kept him in shotgun, too, because I think that's a benefit to him. Him under center is not the best situation for him. The fact that he was in shotgun a a lot you know that was a big question about where was he going to line up this season um you know taking the ball under center or standing back uh the fact that he's still you know back there i think that helps his game uh you know we've seen that time and time again yeah i did not think the line did a good enough job in run

blocking we'll talk about that when we get to naji, but I did move Roethlisberger up. He had a couple of decent runs. The catch was awesome. I moved Roethlisberger up a little bit. I'm more interested in getting him than I am Cousins now. Right. Is Roethlisberger going to move ahead of Ryan and Cousins? I still have Ryan ahead by one spot.

Yeah, he's ahead of those guys for me. The question I think becomes, and this is roster build, is Roethlisberger better than the two rookies who aren't starting week one? Well, then what about Lawrence? Let's just keep going. Fair enough. He'd be better than those guys. And I think that, again, that comes down to roster build. Those three guys probably have a higher upside if they hit. Certainly the two non-Jaguars, certainly the two non-Lawrence guys, because of what they will be able to do with their legs.

And Lawrence is going to run enough, I hope. But if you want a safe quarterback and you don't take a – like if you're drafting Jalen Hurts, this is the perfect guy to pair him with. Well, and also in 2QB or Superflex, he should go ahead of those guys. Yes. When the second quarterback, you need to be a starter. Yes. I'm taking Ben ahead of those guys. I thought, look, first of all, correct me if I'm wrong here,

but the Lions sat most of their starters in this game. Yeah, again, this is just the way he looked. This is not, you know, he just looked better. He did, and he said his arm felt better than it did last year. So, Ben, great. As far as the offensive line goes, if you can't block the first team of the Lions, that's bad. But if you can't block the second team, that would be concerning.

And there were two plays where Najee Harris didn't have a ton of work, got swallowed up in the backfield. And I don't want to make too much out of that, but for that to happen twice in limited time against the Lions backups was interesting, but you do see the ability of Najee Harris

at his size. That could have been 120, 130 total yard game for him if he had played the whole game. Oh, he was terrific. Yeah, you saw on the catch, it was just a thing of beauty. Yeah, he got caught from behind, though. He's making a move. The guy just a thing of beauty. Yeah, he got caught from behind, though. That part's not good. He's making a move.

The guy's in front of him. He keeps running. He's going to get caught from behind either way. I guess it doesn't matter. One of those plays that you were referring to was just poor scheming by the Steelers. There were two guys coming right off the edge that were on block that got to Najee. All right, let's go to some more rankings risers and fallers. Heath, you have three wide receivers whose first name starts with J.

Jalen Waddle, Jerry Judy, Jacoby Myers. No other J's out there that you could have added? It wasn't a great weekend for Jamison Crowder. What about Juju? Jory Javis? John Brown didn't play. There were a lot of J's that didn't do well. But I've just kind of decided, first off, that Judy wins, just that I finally joined the crowd and put Judy ahead of Cortland Sutton because Judy had success with the other quarterback. And it seems pretty clear to me that no matter who the quarterback is for the Broncos

this year, it's going to be better than who the quarterback was for the Broncos last year. And that wasn't all of Jerry Judy's problem, but it was a big part of it. Another big part of it was drops. And I just don't believe that matters very much because history tells us that drops aren't very predictive from year to year. So I'm,

I'm in on Judy over Sutton. I am just ranking it as if Jalen Waddle is the pretty clear number one wide receiver for the Dolphins. Maybe that's dumb, but Will Fuller and Devontae Parker aren't practicing at all. Jalen Waddell's played more with two of those guys anyway. And I think he's maybe more talented than those guys right now. He's definitely so far been more reliable. There was a report in the Miami Herald that this was prior to them playing the Falcons, that the coaching staff privately is not concerned about Fuller and Parker missing time.

They expect Fuller to be ready by week two when he's eligible to play. But they said by the time the season starts, he should be ready. And Parker, they're just being cautious with because of his track record. But, I mean, you talk about two guys that have injury track records. Man, that's terrible for those two. And, and Waddle, when he went down, uh, in the game against Atlanta was a little scary the way he limped off the field, knowing his ankle problem, but the fact that he bounced back and got back in there. And, uh, like you said, he's, uh, they're doing so many things that you didn't see out of Miami last year with the way they're moving him around in

practice, the way that they they're showing it in games. They want the ball in his hands as much as possible. And he's got a chance to be special if he can dominate targets compared to the other two, because those guys are going to get targets. I mean, when they're healthy and on the field, they're going to get targets. And I will say this, just piggybacking off that, that if the other two guys miss time, put Mike Gusecki back on your radar, because it's pretty clear Tua's still going to throw to him. And we know last year what he did with Preston Williams

was there. That guy is still going to be relevant despite the fact that they added those two receivers this offseason. I'd like to see a chart of Tua's throws. I just feel like he loves the middle of the field. That would probably benefit Waddle, right?

Yes. When you look at what they have right now, Waddle's the only guy there. That's true. That's true. Two is really interesting. I think people are pretty excited about him. But, again, I want to see him go against some first-teamers here. Like I said, he played about half of the first-team Bears defense.

All right. So, I'm guessing Judy's first on this list. How are you ranking Judy, Waddle, and Myers? You just did. I've got Waddle, Judy, Myers. Oh, okay. I've got Waddle and Judy back- on this list. How are you ranking Judy, Waddle, and Myers? You just did. I've got Waddle, Judy, Myers. I've got Waddle and Judy back-to-back. Jamie's risers, Miles Gaskin, we've spoken

about Waddle, Corey Davis, Gus Edwards, and Meikle Hardman. You said that Dobbins may be a slight faller, Edwards a riser. Give me your take on the Ravens backfield. I guess I was just too bullish on the fact that I thought Dobbins was going to take a step forward and establish himself as the clear-cut guy.

And that's probably to a fault, maybe just buying into what I thought J.K. Dobbins was going to do this year. But it's pretty clear that Edwards isn't going away. And the fact that it was a pretty even split, even without Lamar Jackson there. So the offensive line was there. Again, nothing to do with how they played. It's just how they're used.

And so I was probably just a little too bullish on Dobbins and maybe not bullish enough on Edwards. And if you haven't been drafting Edwards, I mean, this is nothing new. But if you haven't been drafting Edwards as a potential zero RB target or, you know, somebody who's going to play quite a bit, he's going to play quite a bit. You know, so this is another backfield. You know, it's like similar to what we said about Buffalo

and the Cardinals that there's going to be a split. The quarterback's going to run. You know, you know everything with this Ravens offense, except the fact that, you know, we've seen a Ravens running back be successful, Dobbins at the end of last season, Mark Ingram two years ago. But I think they clearly value Gus Edwards to a very, very high degree, and they're going to use him to a very, very high degree.

Unfortunately, at the expense of Dobbins maybe having that breakout season. In the final seven games last year, including the postseason, Gus averaged 9.7 carriers per game. Dobbins was at 11.6. And I think it's going to be even closer. I think it's probably going to be 10-10. See, I was going to say, I wouldn't be surprised

if it was exactly that, where it's going to be 10-12 in favor of Dobbins. But whether you think what I'm saying is right or what Jamie's saying is right, it still doesn't spell out anything great for Dobbins. The only saving grace is that last year, late in the year, Dobbins handled short yardage goal line way more than Gus. Yeah, Dobbins is the one you want.

If that continues, that's why you're taking Dobbins. But he is not even close to a second rounder anymore. And I don't know how much. I guess he's a third rounder, but it's getting harder. I've got him in round four in PPR. But I totally see it. It's the 3-4 turn, I think. And it's just with those guys.

Again, it's hard to talk about. And it happens, and it's just with those guys again, it's so, it's hard to talk about, and it happens with Nick Chubb at a higher level, but Dobbins is going to look a little bit silly, ranked next to some of the names that he's ranked next to in PPR because of role. He is a better pedigree

and I think a more talented back than a lot of the guys that he's going to be in the same range of in PPR, but I've got like, it's hard, you know, he's behind Chris Carson, and I think Daryl Henderson, you can't rank him ahead of Daryl Henderson right now, I don't think. Yeah, that was the big switch for me.

I got a job in Mike Henderson. And Gaskin. In PPR, yeah. Me too. Man, sometimes I wish every season had no preseason. Because it's hard not to react to what you see. Right.

But then you also wonder. You got to put it in context. But again, let's just say J.K. Dobbins got as many snaps against the Falcons' backup defense. I don't care who they're playing, though. That's the thing. I don't care who they're playing. But Dobbins is barely playing. He's barely playing right now. And he's not who they're playing, though. That's the thing. I don't care who they're playing. But Dobbins is barely playing.

He's barely playing right now, and he's not even playing with Lamar Jackson. This is more than the new. Right. Everything Jamie just said is what the Ravens have done the past two years. Yeah, but last week, Myles Gaskin, we were talking about maybe he's a sixth-round

pick because of what happened in the preseason. Now he's ahead of J.K. Dobbins? That's just wild right now. Yeah, I don't agree with that. But I understand where Jamie's coming from. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I'm just saying it's super hard not to react to what you see. With what they did with Gaskin, he was the passing downs guy.

And so if he's going to be the passing downs guy and the first and second down guy, which he should, because he was great in that role last year, then he's better than Dobbins. He's got the better opportunity. He just has to cash in on it. I'm sure, like we always do the six-game sample thing. I'm pretty sure Myles Gaskin's six-game PPR sample last year

was better than J.K. Dobbins. That would be close. Dobbins, I think he was RB10 per game in his six-game sample. Gaskin, I actually think, was probably more than a six-game sample, so good for him. All right. Look, I get it. It's just interesting, you know, if you want to.

Just because Dobbins has not had a fair shake in the preseason. You know, neither of those guys have barely played the Ravens starters. Jackson hasn't played. I think I've seen Dobbins in on third down too with the starters. I don't know if anybody can show that. What they said this offseason about using him more in the passing

game, to whatever extent, that's going to be a big boost for him. He's still going to be the best Ravens running back. This isn't a Gus Edwards is better than J.K. Dobbins in their current situation. This is just, for me, I had Dobbins closer to round two than I do to round four, and I've adjusted that. And so now he's closer to Gaskin. And in PPR, in full PPR, I think Gaskin's going to be better.

Okay. I totally understand. Dave, your risers are Myles Gaskin, Devin Singletary, and Corey Davis. As I said, the first segment was designed to reflect the risers and fallers, so let's go to Dave's fallers. And we've pretty much talked about all of them. James Connor, Will Fuller, and Elijah

Moore. You know, look, Will Fuller, I guess just that he was a star last year. He was a top 10 receiver per game. He was clear number one on his team with a very good quarterback. Yeah, okay, hold on.

So now he's got the downgraded quarterback. I don't know if he's going to be the number one guy on his team. I wasn't done yet. Okay, well, I guess I'm just doing this. I'm just mentioning this stuff. It's not like he didn't have Brandon Cooks next to him. I mean, Brandon Cooks is a pretty accomplished receiver. I don't know that Jalen Waddell as a rookie is going to be better than Brandon Cooks.

He was outshining Brandon Cooks at the beginning of the year. Who was outshining Brandon Cooks? Will Fuller was at the beginning of the year. I know. I'm saying he proved to be better than Brandon Cooks, so you're telling me he can't be better than Jalen Waddell? Well, he's not going to be there for week one. When he comes back in week two, hopefully he's fine

like Jamie said, the report said. And could he? Maybe. I don't know. I'm nervous to take him now. I'm encouraged by Waddle. I think this Dolphins... If Gaskin's going to start catching passes, that's more targets being taken away.

I think they're going to try and spread around. And I think they're going to be like up-tempo, quick passing. Kind of like this is the new trend, right? Seattle's doing it. I think Atlanta, to a degree, is going to do it. And now I think Miami will too. They're going to get the ball out of Tua's hands quickly. We've seen that already this preseason.

I'll go back to something Chris Towers said earlier this week, where we were talking about Will Fuller. Where Will Fuller is going now is tremendous, is absolutely tremendous because he's falling and falling and falling and he's going to win you some weeks.

You're going to view Will Fuller, I think, DeAndre Hopkins era Will Fuller, you know, where there were some great moments, there was some missed time, there was, you know, probably starting him on the wrong weeks because he's coming off of a big game,

and you're not going to know if he's going to have another big game. But where he's going to fall to is amazing. Where do you want to take Will Fuller now? I'm probably not taking him until after round nine, but I'm probably not going to get him unless this trend is that we're seeing.

Three weeks of missed practice time for a guy of his injury track record is terrible. Yeah. You know, with a new team, no less learning a new system, right?

Learning a new system, learning a new quarterback, sharing the field with other guys that, you know, are, are maybe not as talented as one Brandon cooks, but maybe as talented as two Brandon cooks, you know,

in terms of what those guys do. So, you know, I, I think we'll Fuller is, is going to be an excellent value pick now compared to where he was at the start of training camp where

I had questions of, will he be the number one receiver? But he was certainly much further in that conversation than he is now. Yeah. Waddle's interesting, the way that he was treated, I would just say, I'm not going to say individually, but just in general,

love him in Dynasty. He's going to be so good. Not so sure about this year, but now we've seen him on the field. We've seen the way the Dolphins are trying to get the ball in his hands. He's so explosive. People are excited about it

and it totally makes sense. I've been with you on some of the, I appreciate that you're trying to hold us back on the preseason reactions, but if some of the, uh, like I appreciate that you're trying to hold us back on the preseason reactions, but if any of them make sense, it's the first round pick who we all thought would be really good in the future. And we weren't sure if he was ready yet. And now he's looked good. Yeah. Like nobody had him ahead of Devante Smith. I don't know if you still do, but I always thought that was interesting that I didn't see anyone who liked Waddle better than

Smith this year, even though the dolphins liked Waddle better than Smith this year, even though the Dolphins liked Waddle better than Smith, and they had his quarterback. They had both of their quarterback, Tua, and they chose Waddle. I always thought that was interesting. Waddle's getting his due now.

Okay. Just a reminder, week five, 2019, Will Fuller, 14 catches, 217 yards, three touchdowns against the Falcons. Followed that up with five catches for 44 yards at the Chiefs, but he dropped two or three touchdowns that game.

Imagine if he had played against the Falcons backups. Forget it. 400 yards. The other rankings fallers we've discussed, J.K. Dobbins for Jamie, Michael Carter for everyone, and let's do some news and notes. Not everyone've discussed, J.K. Dobbins for Jamie, Michael Carter for everyone. And let's do some news and notes. Not everyone.

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't move them down. Okay. So, Dave, would you take Michael Carter or... This is not... Let's skip that. Scratch. Record scratch.

How's everybody feeling about Javante Williams right now? Not great. I haven't watched the game yet. I like him more than Michael Carter. He fumbled and Gordon didn't play. Yeah, but he fumbled the ball for a touchdown, so that's good. It was a weird fumble.

It's like his offensive lineman ripped the ball out of his hands, basically. It's just, you know, the encouraging thing is that Gordon is not healthy and still working his way back from the groin injury. But how much better is he going to be than Javante Williams to start the season? And how long will he continue to hold on to the job?

Who? You're talking about Gordon. Melvin Gordon. How long will he continue to hold on to the job ahead of Javante Williams? Because he's going to be the starter. Well, I think what's discouraging, maybe it means nothing, but they're using Royce Freeman a lot.

So they're using two running backs. So they talked all offseason long about using two running backs all the time. And they drafted, much like the Michael Carter discussion, they drafted a guy who's always been a part-time running back now that doesn't always mean that they will always be a part-time running back but right if he earns it then he'll be the full-time guy or at least the majority and whether melvin gordon is healthy or not is for him to be a part-time running back right and this is without mike boone healthy who's the guy that they were counting on as well.

Yeah, and the other positive, I think, if you have watched the Broncos games, is that Williams is doing what Javante Williams does, which is running people over and breaking tackles. And he's been involved in the passing game as well. He did have a bad drop, unfortunately, but then that was on third and one. On the next play, fourth and one, they gave it to him and he picked up

the first down. So, all right, fine. Then Michael Carter, Javante Williams, Javante. Yep. Javante.

Chase Edmonds or Javante Williams? Edmonds. Edmonds and PPR. Williams and none. And? Edmonds and PPR. I got to be a good host, Jamie.

Edmonds and half. All right, there you go. You guys have Javante ahead of Damien? I do not. I like Damien Harris a lot better. I've got him ahead of Damien Williams. Damien Harris and Damien Williams. I've got Harris in non and half,

but Javante in full. Ramondre Stevenson's having a nice camp. That's another team that went up against backups. They're playing against the backups backups. Alright, and more news and notes then. Baltimore has won 19 straight preseason games that ties an NFL record. Clyde Edwards-Zehler I think they've covered the spread on like 16 of those games too. Clyde Edwards-Zehler

left with an ankle injury, so if we're drafting today, where are you taking Clyde Edwards-Zehler? Over Corey Davis. Round three for me on CEH. If he's healthy, I'll still take him in round two. Darryl Williams left with a concussion. It was the McKinnon show.

Yeah. Trace Ehrman, ankle injury. Carson Wentz is going to be practicing. Do you guys think Wentz plays week one? No, but it's trending in that direction. Seems like Bridgewater is going to be the Broncos quarterback. Bridgewater, yep. Oh, okay.

People seem to think it's going to be Bridgewater. I read an article that was like, oh, two articles that said, oh, Locke and Bridgewater were both really good. What? Locke was not good. No, Bridgewater's a great. Yeah. Locke was great in week one.

Or, yeah, last week against the Vikings. This week, I didn't think he was good. Yeah, so expect an announcement in the next few days from. I don't know. Fangio said they may take a little longer. Oh, really? I thought he said the next few days. I think the fact that

it's taking longer is why people are reading into Bridgewater because it's easy to say Locke now if he's your guy. Andy Dalton, we'll start week one

as we mentioned. Cincinnati. Yay, yay, yay. Cincinnati lost their rookie pass rusher, Joseph, I think it's Asai. I don't know.

I might be saying that wrong. And Asai Ebolta. I kind of think that Justin Fields is going to be the number three quarterback week one. rusher joseph i think it's a sigh i don't know i might be saying that wrong and it's able to i kind of think that justin fields is going to be the number three quarterback week one doesn't want to give himself like he doesn't want to have the temptation of putting fields in against the rams just puts him back at me when they're trailing by three touchdowns in the third quarter right oh they're gonna get. Now watch the Bears win. They might win if they're not winning. Saquon Barkley

will practice against New England this week, which is good. Very good. Deshaun Watson can't be interviewed by the NFL as long as he's under

criminal investigation, which means he can't be placed on the exempt list as long as he's under criminal investigation, which means he might be eligible all season, according to Yahoo's Charles Robinson.

Seems like a loophole they might want to close. Maybe, but... Does anybody draft DeSean Watson? No. No. Okay. Carolina could be close to signing Robbie Anderson to an extension, according to The Athletic.

Rashad Bateman was cleared to run routes. That's a great sign for him. And there are some injuries in the Chargers' backfield, and they played tonight. If you were going to Sunday night, I don't know when people are listening to this. If you were going to draft a Chargers running back. Eckler.

Other than Eckler. Who's the second guy you draft? Jackson, but it's getting closer with Kellylly yep yeah that's exactly how i feel like i've always been the jackson guy but i feel very uncomfortable with jackson right now because he's always hurt yeah chris towers is going to write a newsletter with a lot of interesting stuff about you know snap counts and who was in on two receiver sets these are important things that we need to follow here. And yeah, check it out. CBSSports.com I think it's newsletters, but

it might be newsletter. CBSSports.com slash newsletter or newsletters. Either one works. Oh, either one works. Great. And yeah, so it's a really good column and newsletter and you should check it out. Jake Funk or Xavier Jones?

Xavier Jones. Rashad Penny or Alex Collins or nobody? Nobody, but Penny if you feel inclined. Why not DJ Dallas? Yeah, I would say maybe DJ, but I don't like them. Okay. I don't like them. Okay.

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ever done was during that commercial break. Thank you. Thank you. I worked on a lot of things. I want to compliment you after, you know, insulting you. Unlike you did to me. I was really insulting Heath, JB. I wasn't insulting you. When were did to me. I was really insulting Heath, Jamie. I wasn't insulting you. When were you insulting me? I said that Heath said I'd take this guy in non-PPR

and the other guy in full PPR. And I said, Jamie, if you were a good host, you'd ask him half PPR. So you were definitely insulting Jamie. Yeah, but I was really insulting you because you took the easy way out. It's not like... It is the easy way out. What about people who are in half ppr

i have a question like when you ask me a question like that and i have one player ranked higher in one format and another player ranked higher in another format what how would you like for me to answer i would say i would say yeah can we just say that one of one of them is better than the other format just so i don't say that i would would say I would take player A in full PPR. I'd take player B in non or half PPR or whatever it happens to be. What would be weird is if you'd said, I'd take player A in non and full PPR, but player B in half PPR. Do you see what I did for you just there? No, Jamie.

What did you do? You were struggling for content, so I gave you two minutes to just BS. Okay, well, the great host I am, my first email, I don't know. Top five Sylvester Stallone movies. Go. Rocky 1, 2, 3, 4. No, Rocky 1, 2, 4.

Over the Top. Top Land, bro. Come on. Both of those movies are pure trash i'm sorry stop or my mom will shoot have to be up there what am i missing here i mean i i'm i wasn't a huge rambo fan to be honest with you no surprise not surprising at all there's not really a bad guy in Rambo. What? You have to root against the cop. You know, it's...

I don't think it's the cop. I don't remember that well. Wasn't Brian Dennehy, he was the cop? Wasn't he the bad guy? What was so bad about him? He was persecuting Rambo for no reason. He didn't like the way he looked. I know, but he was a weird guy to hate.

Didn't Rambo have to destroy all the cops? You know, it's... I don't know. They were trying to kill him. He could have just left. I don't know. He was stuck in the woods. I don't remember who was Adam.

The man. The man, okay. And you know what? It's all come full circle. Now we have Adam Troutman. Colonel Troutman is back. Is that a Rambo character? It's the Colonel.

Okay, I'm sorry. So what are the other Stallone movies I'm missing here? Three Rockies and what? Three, one, and two are awesome. No, they're not in there. He was in The Suicide Squad. Never saw it.

The new one? The new one the new one tango and cash being short tango cash is amazing yeah tango cash is the top five oh it's not tango it's cash it's not cash it's tango all right let's go from trev uh the obscure quotes you come up with are amazing i just i'll never forget that one i often find myself at a point in the draft, usually around six or seven, where I just don't like any of the names available at wide receiver. I know I can wait at quarterback or tight end. And I usually take running back

early. This is so funny. Am I crazy for taking Corey Davis, Mike Williams, or Marvin Jones Jr. there instead of guys like Tyler Boyd or Curtis Samuel? I like them better uh they may not and they may not be there later in the draft is it crazy to take cory davis mike williams or marvin jones in round six or seven if i just don't like the wide receivers there i mean what kind of

draft is this where you think cory davis will still be there in the six or seven round uh i mean the only guy i would take Corey Davis over there is Curtis Samuel. Not Tyler Boyd? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You'd take Davis over Samuel. Yes. Did I say that correctly?

I apologize. No, no. I would take Marvin over Corey. That's what we're saying, right? I would rather have Davis. Okay. Okay. I'm just sorry. I'm on IMDb right now. I'm looking at Davis. Okay. Okay, I'm just...

Sorry, I'm on IMDb right now. I'm looking at Stallone movies. All right, email... The Expendables were all pretty good. Email number two is from Steven in a small town on the south shore of Long Island. Roslyn. Isn't Roslyn North Shore or is it South Shore?

I don't know. I just know it's on Long Island. Okay. I was going to say... What do I look like, a compass? How are rankings affected in two receiver leagues versus three receiver leagues? Are running backs and tight ends slightly upgraded? Is zero wide receiver a strategy you'd consider

in a two receiver league? What are your thoughts? Yeah, you can go after running backs for sure over wide receivers because you don't have that pressure of filling three roster spots just with wide outs. Anything else, guys? I was listening, sorry.

Two wide receiver versus three wide receiver leagues. How does that change your strategy for wide receivers and why is it wrong to do those types of leagues? I don't think it's wrong it's not as fun but it's not wrong um well there it is it's not fun not as fun so it's wrong okay that's where you want to go um i think you just you know you don't have to prioritize receivers much. Okay. Here are the official.

Yeah, that was really not helpful. I think, yeah, it does make a big difference. Right. I think wide receivers are less valuable. You should not draft as many of them. You shouldn't. You shouldn't draft them as early either. Maybe you should think about, you know,

getting a top six tight end or something like that. Running backs or tight ends or quarterbacks. Okay. So it doesn't make that much of a difference, though. It's not like you're changing your whole strategy. Here's the official top five Stallone movie list in order. This is according to you? Yeah. Oh, terrible.

Rocky 1, Rocky 2. Rocky 1 is 5? No, no, no. Rocky 1 is 1. Rocky 1 is 1. You ever do a countdown before? You don't start at the top. Well, now it's spoiled.

Rocky 1, 2, and 4 are the first three. Demolition Man and Tango and Cash. It's a good list. Thank you. Demolition Man was fun. I don't know if that makes the top five. I think you need Rambo on the list. Yeah.

All right. That's fair. Do I kick out Demolition Man? Yeah. Alright. Rambo four. What about Judge Dredd? I am the law. Never saw that one. What? Yeah, I never saw it.

Okay, anyway, here's one from Juan. Hey, Peter, Tony, Scott, Natasha, and James. Is this Marvel? Peter, Tony, Scott, Natasha, and James. Is this Marvel? Peter, Tony, Scott, Natasha, and James? Mm-hmm. Okay, cool. I was thinking about how dominant Reggie Bush was in college.

Do you fellows remember other of the most dominant college players and how well they did or didn't transition to the NFL? My question, who is one or two of your favorite and worst NFL disappointments? Well, Tim Tebow was awesome in the NFL. Yeah. Briefly. Yeah, he won a playoff game.

Tommy Frazier. Melvin Bratton. Tommy Frazier. Melvin Bratton. Yeah, Tommy Frazier. For me, it was Darren McFadden. I thought superstar. Peter Wark.

Peter Wark is a good one. When did he get drafted? Was he a first-round pick? The Bengals? Peter Wark? Yes. He was a top five pick. You can go through a long list of Bengals picks that were great in college and terrible in the NFL.

Like Kelly Smith. Ryan Leaf. Yeah, but those aren't our favorites. I don't know if you had a guy in college that you just thought was... I mean, I hated Peter Ward because he used to always beat up the Gators. Vince Young. Yeah.

He was awesome. Tebow was amazing in college. Eric Crouch was amazing in college. Yeah,ouch was amazing in college. Yeah, but they weren't. But Crouch, did he even get drafted? I don't remember. I think he did. I think he played with the Rams. Okay.

I think he ended up switching to safety. Yeah, he wasn't much of a player. Oh, Cade McNown. Cade McNown. 500-yard game against Miami. Yep. All the quarterback players the Raiders drafted in the 80s and 90s.

What did you say, Heath? I'm sorry. All the quarterbacks the Raiders drafted in the 80s and 90s. In the 90s. And I'll tell you what, man. One player that was supposed to be the safest, that labeled the safest pick that the Raiders drafted was Robert Gallery.

Left tackle. Maybe fourth overall. Yeah. Big dude. Yeah. Good question. Brian Boswell. Remember Trent Richardson?

Boswell. That's a good one. Oh, Richardson. Another good one. That's a good one. Dude, Brian Boswell was in this weird biker gang movie. There's been a lot of movies. Used to be on all the time.

I said it wrong? Bosworth. Bosworth, not Boswell. Did Heath say it wrong or did Adam say it wrong? I said it wrong. Okay, Heath got me. Adam also said it wrong, but... What was that movie?

It was on all the time when I was in high school or middle school. All right, top five Brian Boswell movies. And yes, I said that wrong on purpose. Yeah. All right, last email. By the way, Schrager has no idea what we're talking about today.

I am falling asleep. Oh, what? Dude. Wow. That's rude. I just have no idea what you're talking about. Jacquez Green was another one for me. Gator, right?

Shinedog wants says dear Mark Harrison whoever sent that Reggie Bush email put him in podcast so he can go to your company why so Shrager could fall asleep dear Mark Harrison Hayden and Adam those are tight ends they are and he also says

those are first names of real life people that played Star Wars characters Mark Hamill Adam Driver who are the other ones and he also says those are first names of real life people that played star wars characters mark hamill adam driver with the other ones hayden and harrison for in uh christian christian oh that's weird they're also tight end mark andrews harrison bryant hayden hurst adam colonel troutman i was thinking adam shaheen they both work colonel shaheen 12 team ppr super flex by the way this is what happens when we do night podcasts what did they do to rambo i mean come on i don't remember adam what is rambo's first name john all right all right good i okay 12 team ppr super flex he just got the easiest question about Rambo, correct?

What did Rambo wear across his head? I'm keeping Kyler Murray. What was Rambo's weapon of choice? Everything. I only know that because of hot shots, Charlie Sheen. I'm keeping Kyler in round two and Darren Waller in round four. You win. Other than some top quarterbacks being kept,

all the top players are in the draft pool. Who should I be looking at with my first, third, and fifth picks knowing I already have Kyler and Waller? Probably the Knights and the Reds. Right. Would you try to take two elite quarterbacks if you could? He said all two elite quarterbacks if you could?

He said all the elite quarterbacks are being kept, right? The Superflex League, so he could. Yes, take a quarterback. Wait, what did he say? Some of the top quarterbacks are being kept. Take Ben Roethlisberger. I don't think we have enough information to give

this guy good advice. Well, you have... You can target a quarterback early, yes. You should definitely have at least one wide receiver with your first or third round picks, I would think. Yeah. Good stuff. Thank you, everybody. Thanks for your emails. Hope you enjoyed the show.

We will be... Ben, what do we got tomorrow? We didn't help that guy very much. Put him in the podcast. Ben, what is our show tomorrow? League winners in every round. And then we have polarizing players on Wednesday, right? I think we should do league winners every round with no information. Jamie, give me a league winner in this round.

What round are we putting Corey Davis in for the purposes of this exercise? Every one. If you start your team with Corey Davis, how will it look? If you take him in round two, how will it look? Good night, or I don't know. When am I publishing this? I will say this now. We had the NFC East strategy.

Now we have the AFC East strategy because Corey Davis is your first pick. Damon Harris, round two. Corey Davis, round one. Ramondre Stevenson, round one. You can see if Diggs falls to him round five.. Damon Harris, round two. Corey Davis, round one. You can go with Andre Stevenson round one. Yeah. You can see if Diggs falls to you in round five. Bradley Croft, round four. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.