Fantasy Football Today - Rankings Risers and Fallers! Where the Rookies and Veterans Ended Up! (04/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

The guys start with some of their interesting rankings risers and fallers as Heath has Jerry Jeudy (2:10) very high and Jamey is a bit worried about the Bucs wide receivers (8:15) after the NFL Draft. We also have news and notes (14:30) for you. What did the Browns say about Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson? ... Updated rankings for rookie RBs (17:50), WRs (38:30) and TEs (51:35). Ashton Jeanty or Jahmyr Gibbs? Omarion Hampton or Aaron Jones? Kaleb Johnson or Tony Pollard? Are we too low on Travis Hunter? Could he be this season's Malik Nabers? And how many rookie TEs are ranked in the Top 15? ... We talk about the veterans who moved up in the rankings (55:00) and those who moved down (59:00). We discuss Trevor Lawrence, Javonte Williams, D'Andre Swift, Tyrone Tracy Jr., Najee Harris, Rome Odunze and more ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the ⁠⁠⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠⁠⁠ for all the latest ⁠⁠⁠sportsbook reviews⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠sportsbook To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS sports It's time to dominate your fantasy league Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he Well, what's up everybody welcome to fantasy football today here on Monday April 28th, what's up everybody? Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, here on Monday, April 28th. What's going on? Dave, Jamie, Heath, how you feeling with the NFL draft behind us now? Busy, busy.

Yeah, the work starts now. The hard work is over, bring on the hard work. You guys have been working on your rankings all weekend. I wanna know, you know what let's do it right now. Give me one rankings update that you wanna talk about. Could be a veteran you moved up or down, could be a rookie that you slotted somewhere. Wow, I didn't realize I'd be so high or so low on this guy.

Give me one, Heath, I'm gonna throw it to you first. And throw it to you first. Give me like one interesting one you wanna highlight. Well, I think really the most interesting ones are probably the risers because the general rule is most veterans are going to be fallers coming out of the NFL draft because the general rule is most veterans are going to be fallers coming out of the NFL draft because they get replaced by rookies. That's especially true at running back this year, but I am finding myself uncomfortably

high on Jerry Judy. Just a fantastic, I know they drafted two quarterbacks, but they drafted them so late that I feel a little bit more hope that we're going to get double digit games from Joe Flacco. And if we don't, they've got a pair of rookie quarterbacks. So maybe if they go to the rookie, the rookie will not be an absolute atrocious quarterback. They didn't draft a number two wide receiver. So it's Judy and Tillman and David Ajoku clearly top the target list. This is going to sound outlandish, but I think if Joe Flacco plays 16, 15, 16 games,

Jerry, Judy could be a top 12 wide receiver. Well, let's see what he was weeks eight through 15 with Jamis Winston. Up three. He was third per game, third per game. I mean, he was on pace for 1,900 yards on 168 targets. I mean, that's really good per target. That's not even, that's a lot of targets, but still 1,919 catches, 1,900 yards,

seven touchdowns on 168 targets. That was Jerry Judy's pace. In that stretch, Cleveland quarterbacks were on pace for almost 5,000 yards, 29 touchdowns and a hilarious 32 interceptions. They averaged 42 pass attempts per game and 294 passing yards per game. So that was mostly Jameis Winston there. So Flacco can maybe be like a Winston light,

but that's so where do you have him ranked? Judy? Uh, he is definitely in the teens at wide receiver. Um, probably going to settle right around 16 or 17. Sorry, Jim, go ahead. Do you fear the, uh, the quarterback change at some point though? I, I, I fear it a little bit. I fear it a little less because they didn't take Sanders in round one or round two. Like the fact that they, I don't really fear Dylan Gabriel taking the job from Joe Flacco.

And I don't really, like, I don't know why Kenny Pickett's still on the roster. But I don't know why Kenny Pickett's still on the roster, but I don't know. And I'm not ready to rule out the fact that Shador Sanders could be okay as a quarterback. So give me some names. Can you give me some names that are around him in the rankings? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I think Terry McLaurin.

Ooh. All right, Dave, Jamie, McLaurin. Oh, all right. Dave, Jamie, McLaurin or Judy McLaurin. I would say McLaurin, but, um, I haven't, I haven't adjusted my receiver rankings yet. That'll be today. Um, I think, you know, Judy's got a chance to be clearly special. You know, you, you bring this up a lot, Adam. We talk about Judy and the week eight on that Tillman missed a good chunk of that time also. And so, you know you you bring this up a lot Adam we talked about Judy and the week eight on that Tillman missed a good chunk of that time also and so you know the the start of the

Jamis post Deshaun run for him was Tillman, you know those first three games. I think was three Were pretty dominant, you know, so I don't view that necessarily as a huge detractor for Judy I think they all can kind of rise up, you know as a result of Flacco taking over because of what he did that that stretch run those five games of 2023 My concern is that it's not necessarily just that it's Dylan Gabriel and and shooter Sanders and the draft capital They spent on them and obviously Kenny Pickett being you know, somewhat of just a throw-in player that they had this offseason it's the fact that flackos's 40. And does he get the long leash to play out the string here?

Because if you're the Browns, as a franchise, you almost, you wanna lose, right? You wanna get the chance to get your franchise quarterback next year. These guys are sort of, I think in a trial period, you know, see what Dylan Gabriel maybe can do if he gets a couple starts. He would maybe trigger Sanders. You would hope it would be him.

Gets a, you know, trial period if he gets a couple starts. Like at what point did they say, okay, Flacco went 4-1 for them, got them in the playoffs? Like they're not winning anything with Joe Flacco. I don't think that's a shocker, but they can hang around with Flacco. And I think that's a, I wonder like where Andrew Barry and chemists have come out on that. Like you obviously don't want to lose, but you also don't want to win. You know, like they're sort of in this like, no, they want to win. Come on. They want to win. Obviously they love you love that angle. Jam. Look,

if you, if you were to say to them right now, they have a legitimate chance to win the AFC North and compete for a Superbowl. They're obviously going to take that. And Joe Flacco clearly gives them the best chance to do that. Nobody's going to argue that. It's not going to be Pickett or the rookies. But like their whole goal was to get as many draft pick, as much draft pick capital for 2026 as they could. They did that. Their whole goal is to get out of the Deshaun Watson contract. They're doing that. Like this is not a team that is right now set up to compete at the highest level. No, and when they struggle, they will go to the rookie because why not?

So again, to circle back on my stupid tangent, but that's my question is like, does Jerry Judy succeed to the level of a guy you're drafting in the teens if Joe Flacco was starting five games. All right. I don't think he'll succeed like Amari Cooper succeeded in 2023. I mean, that was bomb.

But I still think it'll be good. It's pretty close to what Judy did last year. Yeah. I think you try and draft Judy away from that ceiling, but still I've got him as a number three receiver, but top 30 and somebody that I absolutely would love to have on my team to start the year. Jamie has mentioned age and so this was just a fun thing that I realized again. I think I've had several Jerry, Judy age realizations over the years, but do you know that he's

closer to Drake London's age than Terry McLorin's? How old is he? Yeah, he's young. He just turned 26. He's younger than Jaylen Waddle. He's younger than Jaylen Waddle, wow. All right, I'm liking this conversation. I just wanna get to some more names here.

Well, no, I'll tie it into two guys that make me nervous, which is the two Bucs guys, you know, with the, you know, Abouka drafting and Evans, you know, not the, you know, um, the blue coat drafting and Evans, you know, not being as great as he was when Godwin was healthy, Godwin now back and obviously Jalen McMillan doing what he did. Like, I wonder Heath, do you like Judy better than the two bucks guys? Yes. Wow. Because like I dropped that. That's one thing. You know, I, the only, the only thing that I did was, um was Thursday and Friday so far from the draft in terms of adjusting rankings there and

Like those two guys make me nervous as hell right now, you know Evans and Godwin I'm still ranking them right now as number two receivers But they move much closer to Jerry duty than they were prior to the draft like, you know, it's it's Godwin Is he healthy? you know does this draft pick sort of signal a sign that he's not going to be a hundred percent early in the season? And again, as we talked about those first seven games for Mike Evans, we're not what the last six or seven were when Chris Godwin wasn't there. So now you're throwing in a better Jalen McMillan, a high profile

rookie and a guy who was outperforming him. And it's probably going to get more targets than him. Like it's nerve wracking for those two guys, at least for me. a guy who was outperforming him and is probably going to get more targets than him. It's nerve wracking for those two guys, at least for me. Makes me want to target Baker Mayfield because he's going to slip. At best, he's QB7 coming off the board this year. He could be QB6, depending on how people view Mahomes at this point. Evans in the first six games of the year was number 14 overall, but number 23 per game

in non- in full PPR, number 21 per game in full PPR. And Chris Godwin was the number four wide receiver per game. So I, you know, I just struggle with this one because of the injury to Godwin. I don't know what we're getting from Godwin. And if Godwin is not a hundred percent, if Godwin's not 80%, then Evan's probably going to be awesome again. Do you guys, how many, all three of you, how many of these bucks receivers of the two of them are going to be top 24 receivers in your rankings? Two.

They both will. But again, I had them, I think both, and you know me with older receivers this point, you know, he's gonna be 32 with Evans, I had them both I think like top 18 and I think Evans might have fallen to 18 and Godwin is barely hanging on in the top 24 right now. I Think I have them 23 and 24. Oh, okay. Okay, who's for I need some names then because I I still have them both top 20 So let me give you some names of receivers I've got behind them. You tell me if they're ahead of them in your rankings.

McLaurin. Yes. Ahead. DJ Moore. Ahead. Yep. Xavier Worthy. Yep.

I have them ahead of Xavier Worthy right now, but I'm really, really uncomfortable with ranking the Chiefs. Garrett Wilson. Ahead. I have with ranking the chiefs. Garrett Wilson. I have the bucks both ahead of Garrett Wilson. DK Metcalf. Bucks both ahead. Marvin Harrison, Jr. Uh, I think I have it.

Evans Godwin Harrison. Marvin Mems. I'm just kidding. But it's interesting. It's interesting how you guys feel about those two. And I don't think you're wrong to feel that way, especially with Evans. You have Cortland setting ahead of them. I I've got something behind them. I got something. And these are going to be some fun debates.

You know what I'm seeing now that was interesting. So in the first six games of the year on a per game basis, Godwin is top five, Evans is just inside the top 24. The last seven games of the year when Evans comes back, Evans is fifth per game and McMillan is 26th per game. So it's almost exactly the same thing just with Evans being as good as Godwin and McMillan. You get what I'm saying. You got to hope that McMillan really just took advantage if you're in the Evans-Godwin camp fully. You got to hope that McMillan just took advantage of Godwin not being there and that Ibuka is,

hey, you're our guy in 2026. That's what you got to hope for. Because if they're all four getting targets, it's going to be difficult for all of them. Yeah, I'm just trying to think, I mean, Jackson Smith and Jig, but didn't really take away from Metcalf and Lockett as a rookie, right? I'm just trying to think of like first round picks.

And that was three guys. Well, yeah, I don't really know. Okay, I'm not gonna get in all that because it's just too much of a rabbit hole. But all right, let's, we'll take a quick break here. And just before we do that, Heath, what's coming up on FFT Dynasty? We will be unveiling the top, probably 24 or 36 tomorrow on Tuesday's show. On Friday, we will have a Superflex startup mock.

Okay, we will be right back on Fantasy Football today. We gotta start talking about where these rookies are being drafted. There's some very encouraging words about Quinchon Judkins is potential role from Andrew Berry, the GM of the Cleveland Browns. And we'll get to all of that rankings, risers and followers after this. All right, quick round of news and notes. Saints GM Mickey Loomis said that Derek Carr is the starter

if he's healthy. He also said there's going to be a quarterback competition. I guess he meant with Tyler Shuck and Spencer Rattler. But Derek Carr is the starter if he's healthy for the Saints, according to their GM. Jim Harbaugh, head coach of the Chargers, he said that he sees both Najee Harris and Omarion Hampton, the rookie they drafted in the first round, as starters. I feel like we expected that kind of comment and we'll see how it plays out. Head coach Shane Steichen of the Colts. He praised the rookie running back DJ Giddens ability to catch the ball out of the backfield. Maybe we'll see that role for him. GM Andrew Barry of the Browns is what I was referencing before the break. He said

Quinchon Judkins can be a bell cow. And guys, your thoughts on this? It seemed like he was saying Dylan Sampson is a little under, he said he's undersized for how physical he is, but that they he has untapped pass catching potential. So I, that sounds like Sampson's going to be more of a third down kind of back and not necessarily a deterrent for, for Judkins on the early downs. Is that how you guys are seeing it? And then obviously Jerome Ford is there as well. I think that makes sense. You know, I mean, when you look at what these two guys profile as, you know, they've been so accustomed to at least in the Kevin Stefanski era of having, you know, in essence at times, two physical running backs because Green Hunt, they also

can also fill that role when, you know, Nick Chubb was there. But they were looking to find a Nick Chubb replacement. And I don't, I mean, look, it'd be awesome if Judkins can do what Nick Chubb did during his prime. He was amazing. Chubb was. But Judkins certainly profiles more of that role, fitting that role than Dillon Sampson does. But that's a pretty good one-two punch. If Sampson can come in and be sort of a speed threat, you know, change a pace guy and catch a few passes out of the backfield. It was funny because, you know, the Bucks was kind of just an off the top of the head conversation with we throwing it in the conversation that we just had.

But like the guy I was going to say like the rankings risers and followers for me were almost over the weekend of Judkins, who guy I was going to say, like the, the rankers rankings risers and followers for me were almost over the weekend of Judkins. Why I really liked going to the Browns at first and then a little bit nervous with the Samson pick and then, you know, Loveland with the, uh, addition of Luther Burton, you know, it's like two rookies that went up and down right away. Um, but yeah, I think Judkins is, uh, ended up in a really good spot. Okay.

Other news, the Panthers signed Hunter Renfro, who did not play in 2024. Does this matter at all? No. No. I'm sure it matters to Hunter Renfro. Yeah, it does matter. But for fantasy, it does not.

Dre Greenlaw, linebacker for the Denver Broncos, hoping for a bounce back season here. He has a torn quad, but the Broncos say he could be ready for training camp. They expect him to be ready for training camp. The Jaguars signed defensive end Emmanuel Agba to a one year, $5 million deal. GM Howie Roseman of the Eagles said that Dallas Goddard is on the team as we is part of the team as we speak. So we will have a bonus podcast when he gets traded, if he gets traded. ESPN Patriots beat reporter Mike Reese does not think that Jaylen Polk is guaranteed a role with the Patriots beat reporter Mike Reese does not think that Jalen

Polk is guaranteed a role with the Patriots. He was a second round pick last year. And Washington is going back to RFK Stadium or the site of RFK Stadium. They are going to build a new stadium in Washington, DC. Congratulations. All right. Rookie rankings. So where's Gentie? Congratulations. All right, rookie rankings. So where's Gentie? He's one. He's, excuse me? He's number one.

He's RV one. You said rookie rankings. No, no, no, no, sorry. Where's Gentie in your running back rankings? Oh. Yeah. Four. Four. Four. Four.

Four. Odie golfing. Ha ha. Ha ha. Um. Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha.

The disgust from Jamie there. All right, RB4 behind. You like your stupid jokes, I have a bad. I, I, I don't think I could justify him as RB one or two, but definitely. Why are you putting him behind Gibbs? I assume everyone has him behind Gibbs when we know Gibbs is a much different running back when David Montgomery is healthy. I have Gibbs five.

Oh, okay. Who's three? I've got Bijon Barkley and HN out of each. Okay. Dave, what's your top four? Bijon Barkley, Gibbs, Gentie. And I know that there's a Montgomery issue with Gibbs. He's overcome it before. And we know what he's like when Montgomery isn't there. Am I giving up a couple of points per game by taking Gibbs over Gentie? Yeah, probably. But I'd rather have the running back that I know, know is an amazing player and could have an even larger role, especially if the Lions are in more competitive games this year. And,

and you just get a larger role. All right, so I don't want to spend the whole show on Genti, but what could go wrong for Ashton Genti? Bijan was actually a bust as a rookie in fantasy because of Algier, basically. But what do you think could hold Ashton Genti back? His offensive line could be a starting point. We've talked about his offensive line as a strength a strength and it's not bad in Las Vegas and I expect them to be coordinated better. Not that Pete Carroll is there leading that ship and Chip Kelly's there like the play design should be fantastic.

What we've I've seen a game where genties offensive line could not help him. And the results were bad. And if something like that were to happen most weeks, then Gent is not going to be even close to being worth a first round pick, much less a top five pick. So that's one thing that can go wrong. The other thing that can go wrong is are the Raiders going to be a team that scores a ton of points this year? Now, obviously Gent is going to hopefully fingers crossed score more than anybody else on that team. But if that team is going to average, you know, 20 points per game, that

doesn't leave a ton for Gentia. It certainly makes them potentially a touchdown score every week. Of course, there'll be weeks where he doesn't, but it does make me worry about him compared to Lions, Eagles, and yes, even the Falcons. Those are teams that should put up plenty of points from week to week. Okay. Where is Amarion Hampton? Well, who's your next rookie running back and where did you rank him? Hampton is in the round five range. I've got him in round four. In full PPR, I'll take Henderson second and he'll be in the round four range.

That's bullish. I want to get back to that. But can you tell me are these guys top 20 running backs, top 24? Can you tell me some of the runbacks that are around them? Give us some names. So I talked about, you know, that the running back position right now looks kind of a little similar to last year. Last year we were talking about this trio

at the end of a tier, Mixon, Kamara, Ken Walker. And I don't know where, you know, I don't know where those guys are, but Kamara maybe is like the back of that tier again this year perhaps. And then you have Aaron Jones, James Connor, Tyrone Tracy before the draft, you know, Pacheco maybe, like in the round five, right?

Is that where you slotted these rookies in? Yes. Still have a mix in Camara, Walker Trio ahead of them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm going to have a hard time getting the other rookies into the top 20. I think that 21 through 24 is a pretty good range for them, but there's, there's 20 running backs.

I don't think I can rank them ahead of who are like the last three in that group. 18, 19, 20, um, Schuba Swift Connor. Very interesting group there. Very interesting group. Chuba, because Swift is obviously a big winner. I mean, Swift was one of the big risers, right? I think he'd have to be.

Um, but he, but look, it's the same situation he had last year in terms of backfield competition. And he was pretty disappointing, I'd say. Yeah, there's one thing that's changed. There's a lot that's changed. Good things have changed. Coach in line. Yeah.

Okay, so Dave and Jamie have Hampton in that range. Heath has Henderson. Who else is in that range? Did you have a big tier of rookie runningpton in that range. Heath has Henderson. Who else is in that range? Did you have a big tier of rookie running backs in that range? Harvey's in that range. Juddkins is in that range. Caleb Johnson's in that range for me.

Juddkins, Harvey, and Caleb Johnson. Okay, Johnson clearly last? No. He is for me. I'd rather have Harvey and Judd. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I take Johnson over Dudkins right now. I would too. Did anyone give thought to putting RJ Harvey of the Denver Broncos first of this group second rookie running back behind Ashton Gentry? No. Yes, I thought about it. Not really, but I think it's like, and that's not what, and I, especially in rookie drafts, but also when evaluating these guys, like we knew how great and deep this running back

class was. They did not necessarily go in the order that we were anticipating except for Hampton going second and they've got a varying degree of competition they're dealing with in year one. So I really think like with that entire group, just reasonable people can disagree about which one you want to draft higher. They're all high upside low end RB twos. Why not Harvey ahead of them? Because I just feel like if you look at Judkins, I don't see a ton of catches could be wrong. I don't see a ton of catches. You look at Henderson, I don't see a ton of carries, at least not at first. I'm very hopeful that he'll just be so much better than Ramon Tre Stevenson that they'll hand over the keys

to the car, but it might take a little while. You look at Harvey, I see that combination of catches and carries. And as I mentioned on the show, by ESPN's metrics, the best offensive line in run blocking and pass blocking last year. By PFF's metric, the best pass blocking offensive line in Denver, I think they were 11th in run blocking. So we don't have that concern for the Broncos and the history of Sean Payton running backs with pass catching, all that, blah, blah, blah. So I think it's an easy case to make. I don't know that I would do it because he was never really, on all the prospect rankings lists, he was never really on all the prospect rankings list. He was never viewed like Henderson and Judkins, but he was next

running back off the board after those two about 22 picks after. So I think it's an easy case to make why Heath, you said no, I'm going to bring you into this because I haven't spoken to you about these rookies yet. I had Dave and Jamie on on Saturday or Friday night. Tell me why you didn't consider R.J. Harvey for the Broncos ahead of Judkins on the Browns, Trevion Henderson on the Patriots. I, like most people, thought Harvey was a tier behind Judkins, Henderson, Hampton coming into the draft. And Harvey did catch about 20 passes a year at UCF each of the last three years. But he's, and I think he's capable of playing that role. I don't think he's been so good as a pass catcher that we can just say for sure. He's going to be the primary third down back and Sean Payton's offense.

He's going to be the primary third down back and Sean Payton's offense. And so if he's not, I don't know that he has a certain target edge over these other rookies. Like there's still a lot of, there's especially a lot of questions. Like he kind of threw one of the biggest wrenches into the running back rankings because he got drafted ahead of these guys. And because he went to a spot that we were pretty excited about. If it had been Trevion Henderson going to the Broncos, I might project him for 60 catches as a rookie. Yeah.

Yeah. But Harvey doesn't have that history. He could do it, but it's, I think there's still a lot of questions about how touches will be distributed amongst the Broncos running backs. Yeah. I was kind of referring to first and second down catches. He stood still because the Broncos do that a lot. So but but sure.

Fair enough. All right. Moving on. How about let's see. How about all right, Caleb Johnson is is ahead of Tyrone Tracy now? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm currently debating whether Cam Scataboo should be ahead of Tyrone Tracy.

Scataboo. They're close to my rankings. Jamie would love to hear Adam Seller talk talk about Kemp Scannaboo. I think we all would. It's a great call. So who's around Caleb Johnson? Kaleb Moore. Quinshaw Judkins, RJ Harvey and Amara Hanff.

How much separates them? How much separates them? Can you just tell me the rankings with the veteran running backs in there with these guys? Well, I think we're still finalizing those. Johnson's a high end. Yeah, you know, I kind of view him just kind of stepping into Najee's role with maybe a few less catches. So Najee had 260 some odd carries last year and 36

receptions. Like I don't think he's getting 36 receptions. I also think we're seeing a more involved Jalen Warren who in 2023 had about 40 more carries than he did in 2024. Now again, he missed a couple of games there. So I think we see a split and you know, then you got the stupid wrinkle of Cordero Patterson because it's Arthur Smith. But I think Caleb Johnson has an opportunity here to you know lead them in carries which for me I don't know where you have it projected Heath it's

gonna be around 200 and maybe 20 catches you know so 220 225 you know maybe 230 240 on a you know runaway season if things go great for him but he's a physical runner on a team that you know is gonna want to run the ball the biggest question for both of these guys in terms of Steelers backfield is the quarterback. So if it's Mason Rudolph, there's not a lot of upside there. If it's Aaron Rodgers, there's a certainly higher ceiling that they can get to even though he's coming off a down year, but he's going to be more capable than Mason Rudolph even in his age.

So that offense looks a lot better if the quarterback position improves, however they get it done. So, you know, we were talking, I forget who it was in terms of points. Oh, you're saying Gent, you know, the thing is score enough touchdowns. I don't see the Steelers scoring a lot of touchdowns with Mason Rudolph under center. I'm not sure if you see him getting a tongue with Aaron Rodgers under center. I feel better about it though. Yeah, of course, of course, of course. But I think that's the right way to look at Caleb Johnson is just plug him right into the nausea role. I would say 36 catches is close to the ceiling, but I think he's capable of being decent as a pass catcher. But you're drafting him

on the hope that he can score seven, eight times over the course of the year and have a couple of big games and maybe unseat Jaylen Warren from that running downs role. Because at the beginning of the year, I imagine it's going to be a split, but there aren't as many, there are some exciting running backs in that flex range that we're talking about. And I agree. I think he's a flex, but I don't know if he's going to be so good. I guess it's part of the profile that he could be that he should go ahead of a ton of these guys, Pacheco, Aaron Jones, RJ Harvey, a head of Caleb Johnson. How about the thing that worries me about Johnson and Judkins.

And those are the two that I struggle with is the receptions, you know, cause they, you know, you're banking on them. Hopefully getting to a thousand rushing yards, which we know is not easy even for rookies. And you're counting on them to be, you know, as close to double the touchdown guys as they possibly can, which again is a huge ask. So who can get to eight, 900 yards in their backfield with six to seven touchdowns? Like that's, again, I haven't settled on it yet.

Right now I feel a little bit more comfortable with Johnson than I do with Judkins, but by the time I hit publish on my rankings later today, it'll probably be Judkins over Johnson. Those are the two that I struggle with most. I think Harvey's upside is a little bit better for this season, just looking at his offense. That's why I like him a little bit better. Even though Heath is right, the profile going in was not as high. The expectation is not as high, but the landing spot to me is much better, you know, especially just because of the coach. How many of these running backs? This would be five running backs. We'll move on from Gentie because he's obviously an answer.

So how many of the next four running backs? Hampton, Judkins, Henderson, Harvey, Caleb Johnson. So that, yeah, so that's four. Judkins, sorry. Oh no, that's five with Hampton. Hampton, Judkins, Henderson, Harvey, Johnson. Okay, sorry about that. Five running backs. Are you drafting ahead of Tony Pollard?

Three. Two for sure. Maybe Harvey also, but two for sure in Hampton and Henderson. I'll probably go two, but that is right in the range. It's going to be a mess. I can pour a little cold water on Tony Pollard. I had not done any Tony Pollard research until this past week. I did not realize how different his splits were. I'm not sure if I mentioned this on the air or not. His splits were with Tai-Jay Spears and without Tai-Jay Spears.

He played nine games with Spears, with Spears averaging a normal snap count. Okay, because Spears left two games early. So yes, A's are statting this, but nine games with a normal Tai-Jay Spears and Tony Pollard was on pace for 236 carries and 11.6 PPR fantasy points per game is what he averaged. In the other seven games that he played, that's five without Spears and two with Spears leaving early,

328 carry pace. that's almost 100 more carries. And he averaged 13.8 PPR fantasy points per game. In addition, I think this might be a little fluky, but Tai-Jay Spears was the goal line running back when they were both healthy, when both Pollard and Spears were healthy. Carries from the two yard line are closer in the nine games, Spears had four and Pollard had zero.

That I'm not sure carries over, but that just should be worth, it should be mentioned. So I kind of thought Pollard was held back. He was RB 22 per game last year by the Titans being so bad. They ran the fewest plays in the NFL inside the five yard line. He scored six touchdowns or five, five total touchdowns on over 300 touches, which is horrible. But he was also so much of his production came with Tajay Spears out. So when Spears was out, they simply did not use another running back. I mean, very, very sparingly. So I think I actually can make a case for every rookie, maybe not Caleb Johnson, but

the other four and obviously Genthe ahead of Pollard. I think the, you know, he said it's going to be messy, which I think from our perspective, the answer is yes. Like who's better than who when it comes to our rankings? I think the draft though, like this range could be awesome. Yeah, yeah. You know, they're getting these guys at such discounted prices for what their potential could be.

You know, I mean, like I'm going to be very nervous about Aaron Jones, especially after what Kevin O'Connell said in the addition, I mean, like, I'm going to be very nervous about Aaron Jones, especially after what Kevin O'Connell said in the addition of Jordan Mason, but like he's going to be in this range. That's great value. You know, Pacheco is going to be in this range. And if he does bounce back, it's great value. Pollard in this range, great value.

Whatever rookies sort of trickle into this range, have the chance to be great, you know, as Heath just said. Then you have, you know, Jalen Warren now getting pushed down. Najee Harris getting pushed down. Like these guys are still going to be really relevant on some really good run offenses or in the usage that they'll get. Like it's going to be fun to draft these guys, you know? So, um, the, you know, again, Zero RB, Hero RB guys are going to love this because it

just made this, you know, round five through eight range just so robust of some guys that can be really legitimate. I don't wanna say superstars, but you know, fantasy starters, which is great. Okay, we gotta wrap up running backs here and we gotta get to the veterans that have moved in the rankings, guys like Trevor Lawrence, Javante Williams, Tyrone Tracy moving down,

Ramandre Stevenson moving down, Romo Dunze maybe moving down. Where does J.K. Dobbins go? Where does he go right now? He's the one. Right. Like I don't think you're gonna get one of Chubb or Dobbins to the Bears, right? I was thinking more Dallas. Could be. Dallas is talking like they love what they have. They already and they have four and two of them are draft picks. I don't want to get better. They're giving away money.

I don't want to be super excited about a fifth round pick. But if the Cowboys enter training camp with Jaden blue and and Javante Williams, I'm pretty excited about a fifth round pick. Oh, it's going to be the Miles Sanders show. And Miles and I always forget about Miles Sanders. Yeah. All right. Well, let's yeah, let's take a quick break.

We'll wrap up running backs and then we'll get to the rest of the positions. We'll be right back. Now, just to finish this up, Jamie, how many other running backs do you think are going to be in your top 100 overall players? How many rookie running backs? Anybody else? You got guys like Basial Tutin for Jacksonville, Cam Scadaboo, et cetera.

I think Tutin, Scadaboo, and Blue all have the opportunity to be right on the cusp, but probably a little bit after that. Yeah, I think Scadaboo will be in my top 100. Nobody else will be that close. Okay. At least initially, you know, training camp, Jacksonville, right. Change in Dallas could change.

Sure. Skataboo is one hundredth in my PPR rankings. What day of the week is Halloween this year? I'd really love to do an NFC home game preview so we can talk about Skataboo would really be all over that episode. I would think a lot of puns there. All right. To the wide receivers, Friday, October 31st home games. I hope the giants darn it. I'm not on Friday. Shoot.

You can see it already. Who, uh, it's going to be giant, uh, Cowboys game of the week. He'll fool Dave. The whole song with scary organ. Hey, who do you like better this week? Scataboo or Tracy in the song? Don't make me say Scataboo. Yeah, I love it. All right.

So the game of the week. Boo. How do you rank the rookie wide receivers? Give me your top three for for twenty twenty five. Oh, man, I top three for 2025. Oh man, I couldn't help myself. I put Hunter first. I did it. I put him over Macmillan and then I got to scroll down

in my rankings to find the third guy, it's Golden. But only the first two, Hunter and and Tet are in my top 100. Hunter Tet Golden agreed. Uh, I go Hunter Tet Besh. Well, that is so interesting. Why Besh over Golden? Just think the opportunity. Um, Golden obviously has a, uh, I think a better pedigree, you know, hopefully

it would be the case based on how the Packers drafted, but it's such a crowded receiving room. It just scares me. Well, then why Besh over Trey Harris? Besh goes to the Raiders three picks after Trey Harris to the Chargers. By that logic, why Besh over Harris? Well, because I think you look at what the Chargers still have and there's a guy that's going to dominate targets.

I think they're going to be a very run- heavy team. That's close. They're all close. Yeah. It's a similar situation. Well, and Quinton Johnston is probably, like I know we like to make Quinton Johnston jokes, but he's probably more competition than Besh is going to have to face for second at wide receiver, right? Yeah, they have a tight end. They have Bowers, right? So if you talk, forget about just that wide receiver, you're just talking about competition for targets. You've got, you've got Bowers, Myers, Besh, you've got McConkey, Johnston, Harris. I kind of like Harris's opportunity better there, but I could see, I mean, it's debatable for sure. Am I wrong?

No, they're all, they're all close. They're all in very, you know, I think competitive situations with their own rosters. So I don't know. I just like the situation for Basheen to go into a team like the Raiders that, you know, needs an outside threat. I think he'll, you know, fit in well with what Geno Smith does and what Chip Kelly wants to run. I just like to fit. Does Bash have a shot to lead that team and targets? No, no, but none of these guys. I think he has a better shot. That's absolutely does. Yeah, I guess that's fair. I'm sorry.

But if he leads the team and targets, it might be 93 targets for him 87 for Jane Henry. I don't want to cap it 93 targets for him, 87 for Jayden Reed. I don't want to cap him at 93 targets, but do you guys- 110 might be more than what Harrison Besh got. What'd you say? 110 maybe? 110, yeah. 110 I think would be pretty greedy, I think, for Golden. Not greedy.

I have a hard time with that because like, you've got a coach who has not had a number one wide receiver, but he also has not drafted a wide receiver in round one. He had Devonte Adams. Right. Devonte Adams got a bunch of targets. Yeah.

They haven't had a number one since Devonte Adams. I would point out in the rookie year, the first half of the, sorry, Christian Watson's rookie year after Devonte Adams was traded, first half of the year, they still had Aaron Rodgers. And Alan Lazard was very good. And then the second half of the year, Christian Watson got healthy. And he was very good. He was a top 12 wide receiver in that stretch. But no, you're absolutely right, Heath. They haven't had a number one wide receiver since Devontae Adams. Golden will be worth watching. We didn't mention Jayden Higgins here. We had a comment that said Kyle Williams could be better than both of them. Yep.

Yeah. That's a guy with not a lot of competition. Patriots. Yeah, you referenced the Mike Reese report. They're counting pretty heavily on Stefan Diggs coming back and being, I think, that guy, um, who was the, Oh, Douglas, I said, could be the third guy. Super to Mario. All right. So a Bucca and burden,

are they top 50 wide receivers and rookie rankings? Yes. Uh, I have them, I think in the top 60, but not in the top 50. And just in case you've all forgotten, Nabucca drafted in the first round to Tampa Bay and Birden drafted in the second round to the Bears. So we like the players. We don't love their 2025 destinations necessarily. Yeah. I think the Birden one was probably more interesting just because Ben

Johnson's first year had DJ Moore and Roma Dunze and chose to take Luther Burden there. And so like we all just pretty much said, okay, Colkman that's dead. He took Colston Loveland and Colston Loveland is going to dominate targets. I, it makes me a little bit worried about the wide receivers in Chicago. and Colston Loveland is going to dominate targets. It makes me a little bit worried about the wide receivers in Chicago that Burden has a very special skillset. And Ben Johnson, the guy we all think is one of the greatest offensive geniuses in the NFL, is the guy who got him. And obviously, y'all probably remember, if you don't, the Bears made the most significant upgrades to their offensive line this offseason of any team, you'd have to say.

They signed center Drew Dalman to a three-year $42 million deal. They added Dalman, they added Joe Tooney via trade, they added Jonah Jackson via trade. And then they used their first two picks on Loveland and Bird, and they're all in offensively. It's pretty wild. We had Harris going to the Chargers, Besh going to the Raiders. I kind of, I mean, I feel like Brian Thomas Jr. and Lad McConkey were in the 100 to 115-ish range last year in drafts. Do you think that's where Trey Harris and Besh end up? Probably a little bit later.

I think later. Harris will go before Besh. As of now. I think he probably will. I will just wait for Besh. Would you rather have Matthew Golden? Oh, let's see. Who's a good or Jayden Reed or Matthew Golden.

Great. Read by a couple of spots. I've got golden as of right now. There is one good reason to draft bash and that's for team names. You can come up with a lot of great team names with Jack bash. What if what if I had a picture of Sean Connery and my team name was your Besh with a question mark? That's not what I was thinking of.

I was thinking more like Besh better have my money, but that one works too. What were you thinking of, Heath? I was on Dave's line of thinking. Son of a BESH. You're BESH. All right. Well, I think I've got the creative one then. How about Debo Samuel of the commanders or how many rookie wide receivers are you taking

over Debo Samuel? I think that's a great name to bring up in comparison to the rookie wide receivers. For me, the answer is two. Uh, none as of now. Uh, wait a sec. Wait, you're, you're, you're not taking McMillan or Hunter over them, Jamie, or you were just, no, not as of now. No. Really? Yeah. As of my first run of the projections, I have Hunter two spots behind Debo.

So it would also be zero like Jamie. I think the intoxicating upside of Travis Hunter probably means that I will have him ahead of Debo in the final, final April rankings. So where is, where is Hunter then for y'all you guys? Uh, actually have Debo at 36 and Hunter at 37. I have Hunter at 30. I have, let's call it Hunter at 27, Debo at 28. All right, here we go.

It's going to be said now, a year ago, it was said, he is the Malik neighbors of this. Yeah. It is going to take one report for Travis Hunter to become a third round pick. And we might be like, everybody's way too high on him. We're gonna be wrong. Here's a difference. There's an enormous difference. Like Brian Thomas is a second round pick. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to take two Jags wide receivers. What if he's playing defense? I know, but that's the report.

That's the, he's going to be, he's going to play most of the wide receiver snaps and sparingly at quarterback and then bam, he's maybe- That's pretty much what they've said so far. Yeah, I know. I think you guys are too low on him. I think you're too low. I think- I was trying to convince you-

I have a head of Travis Hunter. Go. Okay. And remember, Travis Hunter is sharing the field with Brian Thomas Jr. And remember, Trevor Lawrence is their quarterback. We can talk to Heath about that. DK Metcalf is ahead of Travis Hunter. No. Devate Smith is ahead of Travis Hunter.

Wait, what are you saying? Hold on. Time out. Time out. Heath, you said no. You're saying no, you wouldn't. What does the no mean? I would not take DK Metcalf ahead of Travis Hunter. Is that because of the Pittsburgh quarterback situation right now?

And the fact that like there's a carbon copy of him on the roster and I'm not sure they're going to throw 500 passes. Okay. I keep going. Sorry, Dave. So who was after Metcalf? Devante Smith, Jerry, Judy, Jordan Addison. Okay. All right. Keep going. Sorry, Dave. So who was after Metcalf? Metcalf, Devontae Smith, Jerry Judy, Jordan Addison.

And Addison's going to be an easy one for Hunter to get ahead of. Right. And then other names that are even ahead of the guys I just said are like Marvin Harrison, Cortland Sutton, Garrett Wilson. Yeah. But that's it. Like I'm skittish on a lot of a with the quarterback situation in new Orleans. Give me Hunter. I'm skittish on Pickens. Now that DK Metcalf's there, give

me Travis Hunter. Calvin Ridley has a new quarterback. Good for him. Give me Travis Hunter. The Niners wide receivers. Someone's going to be great. I don't know which one. Give me Travis Hunter. How spicy is this Travis Hunter over Chris? A lot of it. Yeah. I've got Hunter once. That's not that spicy.

Uh, so I guess I'm being too conservative. Yeah. Where, where are you in the rank? Where is that in the rankings? They, that feels like 24 ish. Uh, no, that's 30th. Oh really? He's my number 30 wide receiver and I have him as a round six pick.

So the idea that he could be this year's neighbors, you know what it's going to take for that to happen is Brian Thomas Jr. missing time. And if that happens, then yes. No, well, hold on. For him to be this year's neighbors in terms of, you know, being top 10 receiver, maybe. I meant he'll be a huge riser in the rankings as he gains momentum. And I'm sorry. It's going to be hard, Adam, to do that when you've got Brian Thomas Jr. there. I'm okay with that. Unless we're sinking Brian Thomas Jr. No, I'm okay with that. They don't have Christian Kirk and they don't have Evan Ingram anymore.

They could have a passing offense that is entirely concentrated on these two absolutely elite talents. We keep, or at least we just did, we keep trying to recreate Detroit and Chicago and you could do the same thing in Jacksonville with Timberlake. I mean, you know, they have, and this is why I think everybody excited about Blue is he's your boy is the the the late round running back you know that goes there you know so or is it tootin I get confused tootin tootin went jacks tootin yeah so tootin excuse me I'm going to Jacksonville you know as the next Bucky Irving you know this could be Evans and Godwin and that would be clearly amazing

if you're getting that level of production from two wide receivers. Now granted, Liam Cohen only had them together for seven games as the offense coordinator, but you can see what the path to success was for both those guys. And it's clearly there's a path to success for these two guys. Now the biggest question, and this is I'm sure what Dave was alluding to with Heath, is will Trevor Lawrence be the guy to get them there? Everything we saw from Brian Thomas, and I know it's just really sarcastic, but was with Mac Jones and not with Trevor Lawrence. And so when he was with Trevor Lawrence, he wasn't doing the same type of things. Now you'll point out Adam, which I'm sure is Christian Kirk and Evan

Anger were healthy then, and Thomas was sharing the field with some established veterans. But in any event, Thomas has now ascended to these heights that you hope is gonna carry over, which is why he said he's a second round pick. He still made cases of borderline first round pick. Will Travis Hunter get enough offensive snaps? It would be criminal if they didn't do that to him because he's, I think, equally talented

on both sides of the ball, but I think the stardom path is a little bit easier to get to on the offensive side. And hopefully that's where they are going to give him the majority of playing time, to which case he will be a preseason riser and somebody that should be drafted probably inside the top 30, if not top 24 wide receivers. Okay. Rookie tight ends. Dave, how many rookie tight ends are in your top 15? Two. Okay, give me the rankings. I've got Warren at 11 and Loveland at 13.

Who's 15? Kyle freaking Pitts. Wow. All right. Who's next? How close is the next rookie wide receiver? All right. I'm going to tie down. Pardon me. Elijah Arroyo is 23rd. 23rd. Ooh. All right. How about Jamie Heath? Jamie, you want to go to you, your rookie tight end rankings. So initially after the first round, it was Loveland over Warren. I'm gonna probably switch that just with the crowd receiving core. The receiving core getting more crowded in Chicago.

But again, this is gonna be one that I struggle with a lot of who's the better fantasy option. It may just end up settling on Loveland because of the quarterback situation. But in any event, they're both 11 and 12 right now. Okay. And then who's the next one and how close to the... Ferguson is 13.

Kraft is 14. Kincaid is 15. That would be Jake Ferguson. Jake Ferguson, yes. Not your favorite. Terrence Ferguson. Right. Yeah, Ferguson actually was someone I was expecting to be a big loser. Jake Ferguson,

that is. And it didn't happen. So he's still perhaps a fantasy relevant tight end. Heath, your tight end rankings? Loveland 11, Warren 15. Loveland 11, Warren 15. And you're- Listen, Warren's pre-draft pedigree is doing a lot of work to get him to tie it in 15 for me as a rookie. Um, because that's, I think it is an awful situation. Indianapolis for him. Yeah.

And, uh, you know, I, one thing that was so interesting cause I, I really like the landing spot for a Royal. But I wanted to talk about CD lamb. I guess we really don't have time to talk about him, but he was someone, they added no competition. He could have 200 targets. But I was like, where did CD Lam rank in just the Dak Prescott games?

And he was wide receiver six per game, buoyed by that huge performance against San Francisco. But one guy who was ahead of him in weeks one through nine on a per game basis was Cooper Cup. And I just looked at Cooper Cup season because he was wide receiver for per game in weeks one through nine scored 32 fantasy points in week one. He scored seven point seven in week two and then he got hurt in that game. He missed more than a month. He comes back in week eight, scores 16.1, Pooka's back in that game. He scores 21.4 in week nine, scored 20 or more in three of the next four games. So we're all the way to like week 12 and he's scoring 20 points

almost every week, Cooper Cup. And then in his last three games combined, he had 9.3 fantasy points on nine targets. It was kind of an adventure for Cooper Cup, but that'll be a topic for another day. But obviously that's relevant for Elijah Arroyo in Seattle. Maybe he's 32. I know, but he was really good last year until the last month of the season was bizarre. Maybe he gets can get off to another good start. You know what he saw? No. The cliff. Oh, I thought maybe he saw like Benjamin Button and, well, no, that would be the opposite.

That would be great. That would be the opposite, yeah. Yeah. All right, so let's talk about our veterans here who have moved in the rankings. Heath gave me a list of risers and followers. This is what I want you to- It's only 52 minutes in the show.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I think we've had good conversations about the rookies, but we'll do this quickly. Heath, I'll give you the name that you put. He's had time going through this list and. He's the only one. You tell me where they moved and we can get a quick reaction.

Trevor Lawrence. He is up to QB 15, which seems low for a guy that I was really excited about what happened for him, but he was outside of my top 20 quarterbacks before the draft. Does anyone have Lawrence higher than 15th? No. 16th for me. Just give me like one, two names right ahead of him.

To a Purdy. Perfect. Bryce Young Heath was a riser for you. Yeah, he is a 2QB starter. Hooray. Okay. Alright, let's talk about DeAndre Swift. He's a running back riser for you.

Where do you have him? He was someone who projected inside the top 24 before the draft, but I didn't want to rank him that high because I really thought the Bears were going to do something during the draft. And now it seems like the worst case scenario high because I really thought the bears were going to do something during the draft. And now it seems like the worst case scenario for him as they go out and get a chub or a Dobbins or something like that. And he still gets to play the much lesser version of the Jameer Gibbs role. And so I think you can confidently draft Yandere Swift right around RB 20.

I think my new favorite thing is when someone says something that's potentially dirty and just Dave's quick reaction to it. Love it. Swift was RB 24 last year per game and that was with career low 3.8 yards per carry, six touchdowns in 17 games. He was not the goal lineback. We'll see how that shapes out this year. Uh, Javante Williams, Javante Williams. Yeah. Big, it's a little bit of a surprise for me. I would say big surprise that the Cowboys didn't draft a running back on the first two days, but

yeah, go ahead. Uh, Javante. Same thing I said about Swift, except it's top 36 and not top 24. Like he, he projected as a top 36 back before the draft. I didn't want to rank him that high because he was so terrible in Denver, but now there's like a 45% chance he's the best running back in Dallas, maybe even higher. Um, he's a, probably still doesn't go till round 10 or round nine, but he is definitely someone as a zero RB drafter that you might just happen to have an RB2 for a few weeks. Just have the barf bag nearby

when you draft them. Probably what we were saying about Chuba Hubbard last year, you know? Not at all. Not at all. No? No. Well, we thought Jonathan Brooks would take that job pretty quickly. No, but we knew that he wasn't gonna be ready at the start of the season. And so the whole idea of drafting Chuba was you'll get off to a good start with him and then see what happens. Well, we never thought Chuba could be

as good as he was though. No, of course not. And I guess there's a chance that Javante could pull off the same thing. Yeah. All right, Jerry, Judy, you talked about Cedric Tillman as another rankings riser for you. Where is he?

Again, another guy that just probably moves into the top 50 wide receivers who was not in the top 50 wide receivers and has a chance to be a top 36 wide receiver. And Ricky Pearsall was a riser for you. Does that extend to Joann Jennings as well? Jennings was a little bit of a boost, but I already had him in the number three wide receiver. Um, I, and I think I'm still lower on Pierce all

the most. So you should probably ask these guys how high they are on him, but he definitely moves up because the 49ers did nothing. Well, that consider that a way of asking these guys, guys, where are you on Ricky Pierce? I have back essentially Jennings and Pearson. They're close to me. Jennings is at 38. Pearson is at 40. Right in that round seven turn range. All right. Some rankings followers for Heath Tyrone Tracy and Najee Harris. I do not want any I do not want to draft Najee Harris at all. Nope. Tracy, I don't quite feel the same way.

See where he ends up, but obviously Kam Scataboos, not Omarion Hampton. So that's the difference there. But where are you feeling? What are you feeling here? I just don't think Tyrone Tracy is Najee Harris either. And the Chargers offense might score twice as many touchdowns as the Giants this year.

So I will draft Najee Harris before Tyrone Tracy for sure. Um, but they, they definitely were both followers. Najee was a potential fantasy starter kind of in that same swift range where we didn't want to rank them that high because of what could happen. And it did happen in Najee Harris. It didn't happen beyond Ray Swift. Um, I think Tracy could be anything from the best running back on the Giants who finishes as a borderline number two to completely irrelevant by week six.

Just general question here. Scataboo was around four pick. Typically not really a huge impact player. Where? What was Tracy? Around five. Five? All right. All that still typically not in writing like it and especially out of the gate. I mentioned this all the time, but rarely

see a day three pick in week one come out and have a big role. You know, it just doesn't happen. Are we just kind of making an exception? And I think we should because Scataboo, he was the third pick of day three in a deep running back class. So is that why, you know, kind of look at him differently than most fourth round picks? I don't remember who said it, if it was Emory or Ryan, about just the short lifespan that he may have in the NFL and do the Giants, you know, see that in camp, maximize that potential, make this their one, two punch and maybe scataboos the leader of the group right now. I also don't think, you know, for what it's worth, I know he's kind of always just been

sort of like a steady floor type of player, but Devin Singletary probably still gets some work too. Yeah. And, and that could be a little annoying for both these guys. So I would take Najee over Tracy personally but it's close. All right. Maybe I was too harsh there. I guess I kind of feel like Najee's gonna go ahead of Tracy.

So in terms of draft value, I will not be drafting Najee Harris. Oh, I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. They're both gonna end up being in tandems. It's a matter of, you know, who has the better chance to lead their tandem. Tracy has the better chance to lead his tandem. I would think. Yes. Exactly. If, if things play out the way we want it to,

you know, but again, what Najee does is I think frustrating for what we want to see because we saw it in Pittsburgh. I mean, you know, he doesn't get hurt so we don't get the, oh, the backup will eventually take over, at least so far in his career, four seasons he's played every game. And he doesn't fumble. He's got three fumbles in his career. So we saw what happened in Pittsburgh. The more talented player maybe, if you want to put it that way, Jaylen Warren was playing enough that it was good for him, but not to his maximum potential.

I don't think that'll be the case with the Chargers, because again, one year investment, whatever it's five million or it could be up to nine and a half. It should be Hampton's backfield. But even to your point out about day three running backs, sometimes we don't see it with the early draft picks getting this type of workload that we still want to see. It could take a couple of weeks as well.

Absolutely. Second round picks, I make that case. It's only first round picks historically that jump into a big role right out of the gate. I'm hoping differently, obviously, especially for Judkins. Let's see, Ramandre Stevenson, right? So Trevan Henderson, second round pick. Ramandre Stevenson, a follower for you.

Was it even a bait for you to put Henderson ahead of him, was it, Heath? Nope. Was it, it wasn't even a bait for you to put Henderson ahead of him, was it? Heath? Nope. All right, anybody. Where's Stevenson compared to Najee Harris and Tyrone Tracy? Just behind them, because I don't think it's as like,

like there's a chance that I can still see Najee being the goal lineback. I think Najee could be the RB2 for the Chargers and score more touchdowns than Tracy as the RB1 for the Giants. Stevenson might be the goal linebacker too, but I don't think they're going to score as many touchdowns as the Chargers. I would take Stevenson over Tracy and Harris simply because I want to see Henderson get the work.

Like, will he be... He's going to get, he's going to, he should lead them in receptions in their backfield. Maybe as a team, but yeah, really them in, in receptions. Uh, will he get those opportunities on first and second? Now, uh, Jerome Ford is a faller. That one is obvious. Roma Dunze Roma Dunze a fall for you. What about DJ more?

It's a little ding for more, a bigger ding for a doon say. So, oh, doon say or Travis Hunter, Hunter for sure by a lot. A lot. Okay. Seems like wide receivers pretty deep because you know, mentioned some good receivers there in that wide receiver 30 range. So doon say is not even a top 36 wide receiver. I think it's pretty, pretty cool.

Jayden Reed a loser and Colkomet a loser. Heath, you have something in common with the Orlando Magic. You lost to the Celtics yesterday. Is that right? I did not lose to the Celtics. I did lose to Ray Allen who was coaching the opposing team, their team name, oddly lose to Ray Allen, who was coaching the opposing team. Their team name, oddly enough, was Ray Allen Select. So it was a great experience for the

boys to get to go through the handshake line and tell Ray Allen good game after his team beat us. Did they win the whole thing? They won the division we were in. It's against Heath Cummings select. Is that your team name? It was not Heath Cummings. It was a funny thing.

A parent came over to me after the game and said, I don't know if you realize it, but there were so many people over on the sidelines in that game talking about, do you know who that coach is? Do you know who that coach is? I said, yeah, Heath Cummings. He works for CBS. Yeah. Is that the fantasy football guy?

Yeah. Is that the fantasy football guy? Yeah. I, you know. That's probably the biggest celebrity coaching game of AAU, South Florida ever. I think that moves me to 0 and 3 against former NBA players. Ray Allen didn't beat us near as bad as Rajah Bell did five years ago. I had some 0 and 3 you said. Who's the third? Sean Pearson.

Oh, I don't know. Former Jayhawk from like the eighties, nineties. Oh, I had some emails I was going to read, but I'm going to save them for a show later this week. If not Wednesday, it'll be Thursday. I'm sorry to DMart, Ben and Matthew. You had good questions and I will get to them. We've got mock drafts, we've got rookie only,

dynasty stuff and we've also got just regular standard NFL or fantasy football format. Mock drafts that we're gonna do tomorrow. We're gonna talk about them on Wednesday. Heath will talk about the dynasty one time, the dynasty podcast. So thanks everybody for watching and listening. This is fantasy football today.

We're gonna talk to you on the next one.